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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: IlliniLurker70 on March 16, 2020, 12:47:04 PM
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1239559379134939136?s=19
Landers Nolley is transferring from VA Tech.
(hope I didn't miss an existing recruiting thread here)
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hope I didn't miss an existing recruiting thread here
Fuck it.
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That ship has sailed.
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(hope I didn't miss an existing recruiting thread here)
yeah checking a whopping 15 topics is a lot of work
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Be an awesome get but have no idea if it’s possible apparently not according to JJ
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(hope I didn't miss an existing recruiting thread here)
yeah checking a whopping 15 topics is a lot of work
I mean, I did. Occasionally the topic headings don't exactly reveal what's being discussed.
Is the quarantine making you fussy already little buddy???
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Why are they after so many transfers? I guess they are counting Ayo and Tev as both gone so there will be one empty scholarship?
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Our window is opening and we lose Kipper, Feliz, and possibly Ayo and Tevian. We have no depth at the 5. Failure to prepare is preparing to fail or some such shit
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Kouma was supposed to be coming as well, according to some. Idk if he counts for depth at the 5 but he will count for a scholarship if he does come.
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Kouma's numbers and minutes where he is right now are not very encouraging. Doubt he'd give us any immediate help at all except for 5 more fouls to give in the post.
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Don't need Kouma, imo. I was pretty encouraged seeing Hamlin in there.
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I agree that Kouma doesn't do much for us. But is there some some sort of agreement in place that he gets a scholarship?
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I would hope that a healthy (and one year older) BBV would take up whatever minutes Kipper gave us (or Tevian for that matter).
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I forgot about him.
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I did, too. One of the more disappointing players this season behind Tev. I wonder if he's 100% back or a possibility to leave.
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One of the more disappointing players this season behind Tev.
He was an 18 year old kid, a late pickup, had an injury during the off season and also apparently aggravated it during the season, and wasn't really expected to be much of a contributor, but he's "one of the more disappointing players"?
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That honky tonk verdonka donk
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https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-basketball-Alan-Griffin-transfer-portal-Illini-145363061/
Griffin transferring. It’s a surprise he’s the first to go. Wow
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4397511/javon-freeman-liberty
Btw. This guy had a good year. I wonder if he is interested in transferring this year. He could redshirt next year and come in after Frazier, Damonte and maybe Miller leave.
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So there’s a lot of buzz surrounding K. Whitney possibly to Illinois right now. Very doubtful transfers will have to sit out a season after what happened this year. Should be interesting. An immediate spot at the 3 just opened up here too with the departures of Jones and Griffin. I think he’s one you’ve gotta take a flyer on if given the opportunity.
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So there’s a lot of buzz surrounding K. Whitney possibly to Illinois right now. Very doubtful transfers will have to sit out a season after what happened this year. Should be interesting. An immediate spot at the 3 just opened up here too with the departures of Jones and Griffin. I think he’s one you’ve gotta take a flyer on if given the opportunity.
I'd be ok with that but it doesn't really solve our lack of 3 point shooting ability
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Hopefully not Alex Legion 2.0. I’m sure it happens all the time at places but I can’t really remember such a seeming sure fire stud that Illinois recruited heavily and missed that flopped so bad at the college level. Carlton Bragg?
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http://verbalcommits.com/players/abdou-halil-barrem
This guy was offered.
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https://uabsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/tamell-pearson/7563
MIF/Morgan Park kid in the portal. 8/16 from 3.
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We got a preferred walk on from St. Rita.
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We are recruiting Master P's son, a 2021 PG.
In good shape with 2021 top 100 SG Luke Goode.
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Luke Goode has committed to Illinois.
Kid is supposedly a solid shot-maker.
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Luke Goode has committed to Illinois.
Kid is supposedly a solid shot-maker.
Well we just lost one of those, so we were definitely in need.
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A Goode shot maker is fine with me.
Welcome aboard, Luke.
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Okoro in the transfer portal
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Goode deal
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Okoro in the transfer portal
Didn't he kind of suck at basketball last year? Or, was it just a bad fit?
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Somebody was saying he got hurt. Hit by a car or something.
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https://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/2019/11/oregon-basketball-forward-francis-okoro-out-vs-boise-state-after-being-hit-by-car.html
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Kinda feel bad for the car
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I checked out Scout board for their reaction to the Goode commitment, and I was rolling at the number of people whose reactions were, “Awesome, we finally have the lights out shooter we’ve been looking for.” As far as I can tell, Goode is an extremely well rounded player with great size and versatility.... who shot 32% on threes last year. Of course, he’s a ginger, so he must be a lights out shooter though.
Also, it’s not like we don’t have one of the best 3-point shooters in Illini history on the team already.
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I checked out Scout board for their reaction to the Goode commitment, and I was rolling at the number of people whose reactions were, “Awesome, we finally have the lights out shooter we’ve been looking for.” As far as I can tell, Goode is an extremely well rounded player with great size and versatility.... who shot 32% on threes last year. Of course, he’s a ginger, so he must be a lights out shooter though.
Also, it’s not like we don’t have one of the best 3-point shooters in Illini history on the team already.
32%???? That isn't really very good TBH.
OK- who is this great shooter we already have??? I am missing the joke.
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I checked out Scout board for their reaction to the Goode commitment, and I was rolling at the number of people whose reactions were, “Awesome, we finally have the lights out shooter we’ve been looking for.” As far as I can tell, Goode is an extremely well rounded player with great size and versatility.... who shot 32% on threes last year. Of course, he’s a ginger, so he must be a lights out shooter though.
Also, it’s not like we don’t have one of the best 3-point shooters in Illini history on the team already.
32%???? That isn't really very good TBH.
OK- who is this great shooter we already have??? I am missing the joke.
I too am confused....
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Da’Monte Williams, duh
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Tyler Underwood and his .333 graduated, so it's not him.
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Griffin I guess
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Griffin I guess
He's in the transfer portal.
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Why are redheads called ginger? For that matter, red?
Goode is pronounced "goody."
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Hey Mini Dick, you mind explaining to all of us who you’re referring to please....
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Uh... Frazier? He had a down season shooting wise last year, but he makes a ton of threes (including high difficulty ones) and he’s going to be near the top of the all time leader board for made threes by the time he’s done here.
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can't say I'm exactly excited about this Goode guy >:(
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Why are redheads called ginger? For that matter, red?
Because they don’t have souls.
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Uh... Frazier? He had a down season shooting wise last year, but he makes a ton of threes (including high difficulty ones) and he’s going to be near the top of the all time leader board for made threes by the time he’s done here.
He actually has much better form than Ayo. His balance when shooting and shot selection were often not good, though. He also played and exerted more effort with on the ball defense better than anybody else on perimeter, including Damonte.
He often got stuck with ball at end of shot clock having to chuck up a 26 footer.
That said- he had rough year. Needs to do better for us, and if he wants to play some pro ball somewhere after this.
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can't say I'm exactly excited about this Goode guy >:(
Might be solid player, but 32% from three is pretty average in HS. Decent stroke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ov8R5DRS0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ov8R5DRS0)
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can't say I'm exactly excited about this Goode guy >:(
Might be solid player, but 32% from three is pretty average in HS. Decent stroke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ov8R5DRS0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ov8R5DRS0)
Yeah, I was pretty surprised/disappointed when I saw his three % considering everybody is calling him a shooter.
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Miller signed with us apparently
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Miller signed with us apparently
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-Fighting-Illini-basketball-commit-Adam-Miller-sign-national-letter-of-intent-146052122/ (https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-Fighting-Illini-basketball-commit-Adam-Miller-sign-national-letter-of-intent-146052122/)
Here is one write up. Also article below that on Okoro indicates Kofi "expected to return."
Who knows at this point about how anything plays out.
If Kofi comes back and there is a season, one woudl think we are an NCAA team.
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Man I wish Dosunmu would come back for one more year.
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Kofi coming back will make us an NCAA team. Kofi and Ayo coming back would make us a potential top 10 team.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skm-1j0-o7g
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If Kofi is back next year, I think our core is good enough to win the conference so long as one of our incoming guards plays at a high level immediately and one of Grandison/Hutchison is a legit B1G starter.
Without Kofi, we may be terrible as we're super-vulnerable to foul trouble and back to having guards rotate to the 4.
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If Kofi is back next year, I think our core is good enough to win the conference so long as one of our incoming guards plays at a high level immediately and one of Grandison/Hutchison is a legit B1G starter.
You're not an idiot, which is why you hedged those variables.
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Hedging all the variables is one of the key components of being AOTC
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Okoro made a strange decision.
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Okoro made a strange decision.
What do you find strange about it?
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Because they don’t have souls.
I banged a couple gingers in my time. One of them had a clamp down under. Really impressive.
She was a Dance major.
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Okoro made a strange decision.
I have no idea what some of these players are thinking when selecting programs. How in the hell do you think St. Louis is gonna get you to the pros or give you a quality education if you don’t make it?! Has anybody seen what Antigua has done with big men? Especially Kofi this past year? Okoro must not be a very intelligent person.....twice. Looks like he’s gonna be irrelevant, much like that one guy who thought he was cute with the hat trick.
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There's a movie title that sums up Okoro's decision making pretty well, Dumb and Dumber.
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What’s big deal? He probably ended up where he belongs. Injury issues, decreasing playing time and production as the year went on, ties up a scholarship next year we could use on a 5th year guy that can contribute right away. I wasn’t even remotely interested in having him come here.
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What’s big deal? He probably ended up where he belongs. Injury issues, decreasing playing time and production as the year went on, ties up a scholarship next year we could use on a 5th year guy that can contribute right away. I wasn’t even remotely interested in having him come here.
Oh I wasn’t really either. I’m just saying if we’re showing interest AGAIN after he already made a bad choice in Oregon, why he would make another dumb decision. You absolutely take it if we give you a shot. But oh well🤷🏻♂️
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Okoro made a strange decision.
What do you find strange about it?
Everything. Former top 50ish big with raw athletic talent. Reportedly a good student. Plans to redshirt to rehab from injuries. Needs to develop offensive skills. Seems like the type who would attract a lot of interest from high major programs that meet his apparent needs.
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Maybe he likes that unique combination of hillbillies and papists.
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Hedging is the only way to go through life. Diversity your bonds, etc.
Re: Okoro, I don't think really people appreciate how quickly rankings and past potential mean shit.
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Okoro made a strange decision.
I have no idea what some of these players are thinking when selecting programs. How in the hell do you think St. Louis is gonna get you to the pros or give you a quality education if you don’t make it?! Has anybody seen what Antigua has done with big men? Especially Kofi this past year? Okoro must not be a very intelligent person.....twice. Looks like he’s gonna be irrelevant, much like that one guy who thought he was cute with the hat trick.
SLU is very good education.
Basketball not so much. Ford is a hack.
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Another strange thing is how quickly he made the decision. He could have waited to see what interested high majors were doing and still had good mid major options.
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Another strange thing is how quickly he made the decision. He could have waited to see what interested high majors were doing and still had good mid major options.
Ford is often believed to be slimey. My guess is they were in contact with him for some time before his announced decision.
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Javon Freeman Liberty is transferring and needs to be closer to his grandma. Do we need him? Do we have room for him? School record for steals at Valpo.
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Dude sounds like he should be wrapped in an American flag with a bald eagle on his shoulder
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Ismael Massoud is transferring from wf. Sounds like a stretch 4.
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Javon Freeman Liberty to DePud
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RIP Sonny Cox
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Updated 2020 247composite rankings
Miller 31
Cubelo 42
Hawkins 144
Trump sux
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recruiting is exciting again
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Updated 2020 247composite rankings
Miller 31
Cubelo 42
Hawkins 144
Trump sux
when do RSCI come out
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Updated 2020 247composite rankings
Miller 31
Cubelo 42
Hawkins 144
Trump sux
when do RSCI come out
Well have to await Dr. Fauci’s blessing time responsibly reopen the RSCI.
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Updated 2020 247composite rankings
Miller 31
Cubelo 42
Hawkins 144
Trump sux
when do RSCI come out
Between May 19 and August 25 ...
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Cocksuckers,
GoEmaw has an embed function for YouTube videos.
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https://twitter.com/brandonlieb12/status/1275622194970853376
https://twitter.com/brandonlieb12/status/1241399303840698369
https://illinois.rivals.com/news/illinois-offers-2020-in-state-center-brandon-lieb'
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Brandon-Lieb-Illinois-basketball-offers-scholarship-Illini-hoops-Deerfield-148483989/
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https://twitter.com/brandonlieb12/status/1276165570761809922?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1276166891279654912%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.illinoisloyalty.com%2F
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Get him on the Tisdale diet
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Welcome aboard Brandon.
Offers from OK, OK St and the Utes.
Stayin home tho.
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Sound like Lieb has a skill set we could use. Welcome to the Illini!
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Are the other 2021 recruits are concerned our sole recruit is a ginger from Fort Wayne Indiana?
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Meyer and Piper have crystal ball predictions for Jordan Nesbit to Illinois.
Is shit about to go down?
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Saw someone say Nesbitt was a lock the other day somewhere despite all the CBs saying SLU. So now we got a couple? Sweet! Keep the train rolling
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Now 3 have indicated it's Memphis.
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Now 3 have indicated it's Memphis.
I honestly have no idea how anyone could pick Memphis or SLU over Illinois right now. Where we are as a program currently and a university (educationally), it is mind-boggling. But hey, kids make stupid decisions all the time🤷🏻♀️
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I honestly have no idea how anyone could pick Memphis or SLU over Illinois right now. Where we are as a program currently and a university (educationally), it is mind-boggling. But hey, kids make stupid decisions all the time🤷🏻♀️
PENNY HARDAWAY!
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Penny telling him he is his point guard.
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Yeah it's Memphis. Crap.
Oh well. On to the next one.
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Penny was real with him.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/memphis-hardaway-lock-down-commitment-of-four-star-jordan-nesbitt
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Penny was real with him.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/memphis-hardaway-lock-down-commitment-of-four-star-jordan-nesbitt
Real generous with bags of cash maybe.
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University of Illinois head coach Brad Underwood announced Wednesday the signing of four-star, top-100 recruit Luke Goode (pronounced GOOD-ee) to a national letter of intent on the initial day of the early signing period.
He also was a football standout at Homestead, earning Class 6A All-State Junior Team Offense honors at quarterback while setting the school record for passing yards in 2019.
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University of Illinois head coach Brad Underwood announced Wednesday the signing of four-star, top-100 recruit Luke Goode (pronounced GOOD-ee) to a national letter of intent on the initial day of the early signing period.
He also was a football standout at Homestead, earning Class 6A All-State Junior Team Offense honors at quarterback while setting the school record for passing yards in 2019.
Looks like a pretty good player, nice to beat out some of our competition for a recruit
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All State at qb is hopefully a good signal that he also knows how to run a team.
Class 6 is the largest schools in the state.
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TyTy Washington up next?
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Recruiting? I've got no complaints at the moment. ;D
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As his laid back demeanor produces lazy product from his shiny objects, the Michigan Militia will label him Jew Juan.
I like him. If he develops into a competitive college coach, I'll be impressed. I've met Lovie Smith. In my mind, pro sports coaches with zero college experience are guilty until proven capable.
Beilein was the best coach in the NCAA.
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As his laid back demeanor produces lazy product from his shiny objects, the Michigan Militia will label him Jew Juan.
:o what
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@Sven
(https://i.ibb.co/QJpgZZH/EC1634-C2-3-CAB-42-A6-96-C8-42-C13-E5-DC0-ED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/107g33X)
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:o what
(https://i.redd.it/85obl7tnv7w41.jpg)
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More suckage
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Some troubling rumbles on the ol ‘cruitin front.
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Some troubling rumbles on the ol ‘cruitin front.
like what
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Some troubling rumbles on the ol ‘cruitin front.
Imma go get my cup
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Other than everyone we targeted other than Luke Goode not picking Illinois?
Given our resurgence and the staffs ability to build a quality roster, this recruiting cycle has been really disappointing.
I have a hunch there is something going on beyond it just being the staff’s inability to connect with recruits.
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Other than everyone we targeted other than Luke Goode not picking Illinois?
Given our resurgence and the staffs ability to build a quality roster, this recruiting cycle has been really disappointing.
I have a hunch there is something going on beyond it just being the staff’s inability to connect with recruits.
Agreed. I’m just curious as to WHAT is going on beyond it just being the staff’s inability to connect with recruits. THAT is the big question. Is it something on our end or the other programs end?!
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I'll play: BReal, what is Mark Smith's dad?
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I'ma guess Mr. Clean has again disinfected the process, and wiped away any germ of interest.
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I'ma guess Mr. Clean has again disinfected the process, and wiped away any germ of interest.
Sounds like his modus operandi.
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Some troubling rumbles on the ol ‘cruitin front.
Juicy
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Time for ChicagoFan in 3...2...1...
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Time for ChicagoFan in 3...2...1...
You’ll have to settle for me.
Not surprising that talented inner city kids don’t want to play for a coach that demands personal accountability and is more than willing to enforce it.
The word is out about Underwhelm on the recruiting trail. Recruits that sign with Underwhelm either get incentives to put up with his shit or they don’t have any better offers. There’s no in between.
Now that Jesus Joshie has put the clamps on you can expect this squad to regress back to mediocrity (at best) and the staff to GTFO of Champaign. Besides all that, who the fuck in their right minds wants to play in a cold windy cowtown in a broke-ass state with draconian lockdown measures?
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You’ll have to settle for me.
Not surprising that talented inner city kids don’t want to play for a coach that demands personal accountability and is more than willing to enforce it.
The word is out about Underwhelm on the recruiting trail. Recruits that sign with Underwhelm either get incentives to put up with his shit or they don’t have any better offers. There’s no in between.
Now that Jesus Joshie has put the clamps on you can expect this squad to regress back to mediocrity (at best) and the staff to GTFO of Champaign. Besides all that, who the fuck in their right minds wants to play in a cold windy cowtown in a broke-ass state with draconian lockdown measures?
I see the new cesspool has a self anointed wannabe resident asshole with no valid basketball input,but a lot of coded fcktard white grievance. Glad we can check that box now.
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I'd still rather have ChicagoFan.
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https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1347230001112952836?s=21
Wow! Wtf happened there....
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We're getting a zoom call with WVU transfer Oscar Tshiebwe tomorrow.
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Wow! Wtf happened there....
You'd probably like Lubbock.
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We're getting a zoom call with WVU transfer Oscar Tshiebwe tomorrow.
I remember we were 2nd place in that recruitment, he'd be a huge get
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I remember we were 2nd place in that recruitment, he'd be a huge get
Tshiebwe and Kofi on the same team would be one of the best rebounding teams of all time.
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You'd probably like Lubbock.
My daughter followed a BF to Lubbock and attended TT for a year.
That place makes CU look like Shangri-la.
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I have a friend who is very conservative, an he only lasted for about a month at Texas Tech even though they are one of the only universities that had the program of study he wanted.
Even among Texans it is looked at as a total dump. It also smells worse that anywhere in Central Illinois except possible some parts of Decatur.
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I remember we were 2nd place in that recruitment, he'd be a huge get
Kofi's replacement and a special talent in Curbelo feeding him. Hope the staff hammered those points home in the meeting.
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Kofi's replacement and a special talent in Curbelo feeding him. Hope the staff hammered those points home in the meeting.
This.^^^ The kid must want more tick. Went down this year.
Up against Kentucky,Miami, and NC State on this.
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I remember we were 2nd place in that recruitment, he'd be a huge get
Not happening. Dirty recruitment and wrong shoe logo
He also has some pretty serious personal issues he needs to address
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Not happening. Dirty recruitment and wrong shoe logo
He also has some pretty serious personal issues he needs to address
Sad.
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Not happening. Dirty recruitment and wrong shoe logo
He also has some pretty serious personal issues he needs to address
Well that doesn't sound good.
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Why do we always assume tall Africans (or other foreigners) want to play basketball?
A lot of these kids don’t grow up playing or even watching the game. Their perspective of it is entirely different. Then one day maybe they get tall and they’re whisked away to the USA to become basketball stars.
It would be really fascinating to have guys like Kofi/Oscar give completely honest no-holds-barred interviews on what they think of college basketball as a whole. They’ve got all these people who either have money or want money based on their labor shoving basketball down their throats 24/7 and maybe they just really wanna be accountants or teachers or something?
Sometimes I wonder if Kofi really enjoys playing basketball at this level. I think he does, sometimes. I could also see why he might feel like he’s on a plantation sometimes too.
Obviously that goes to some extent for all college athletes who don’t feel fairly compensated for their athletic contributions, but for most American kids playing at this level is a dream come true. For these overseas guys who didn’t grow up with the game it might feel like someone else’s dream coming true.
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Whatever one's goals in life, it's amazing what 15 million dollars can do to further them.
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Yeah, I mean...I didnt grow up dreaming to be in corporate sales but it allows me to purchase copious amounts of fishing equipment so...here we are until I can find a better plan
Mr Oscar is surrounded by some really bad leeches. It’s actually really sad what these kids go through. This has been an issue for guys in the Illinois program too, to a lesser degree
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I've met a few of them.
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I do feel bad for kids like this. But back when I still followed recruiting I remember guys like that clown that live streamed his visit here on social media and trolled the whole fan base...then went to some non basketball school for $$$
Fuck that kid
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https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1361123508571537408?s=21
Sign him up
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Track record with guys from Caribbean is pretty solid
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He likes to dunk.
Lol.
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goofy lookin shot but long and athletic, could be a good pick up
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https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1361123508571537408?s=21
Sign him up
#done
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Every HS guard in Chicago should be lining up to play for the Illini
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Custard piqued my interest in the other thread so how's the 'cruitin' going? I don't pay much attention at all to it...
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Custard piqued my interest in the other thread so how's the 'cruitin' going? I don't pay much attention at all to it...
Not so hot. 46th in country and 9th in BIG.
https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/ (https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/)
https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/?Conference=Big-Ten (https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/?Conference=Big-Ten)
Maybe we grab some late commits.
We have several openings I woudl think with Ayo, Kofi, Trent, DaMonte, all leaving and the inevitable other departures that happen.
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TyTy Washington decommitted from Creighton and is supposedly looking at us and Texas. We finished second to Creighton the first time around. Nimari Burnett basically sounds like a done deal. The Boakye kid that decommitted from MSU really likes Illinois. We are believed to be in the lead for Wisconsin Mr. Basketball. Or maybe we won’t get shit but some transfers no one has heard of. 🤷🏻♂️
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Interesting takes from each of you LOL
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Interesting takes from each of you LOL
Well, I went though the Top 100 list of uncommitted. https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool (https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool)
We are not listed as in on any of them. The Wisconsin Mr. BB is #158 FWIW.
Did not know we are on TyTy's list. It does not show that on 247, but things change for sure with these kids. We have 3 open spots at guard next year.
Burnett looks like a good get. What happened at TT??
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I think we get Burnett and Boakye. The TyTy ship has sailed.
Rumors of racist undertones happening in his time at TT within the community maybe? So obviously central Illinois would be a good fit.
Boakye is probably the biggest get of this class imo. Dude is a straight up badass.
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Maybe we grab some late commits.
We have several openings I woudl think with Ayo, Kofi, Trent, DaMonte, all leaving and the inevitable other departures that happen.
Is there something definite about Kofi leaving? Still needs to learn how to pass.
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Is there something definite about Kofi leaving? Still needs to learn how to pass.
No. I think he stays honestly.
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No. I think he stays honestly.
I have only seen his name in one mock draft. AYo is everywhere from mid teens to late second.
I think Ayo goes first round for sure. Kofi will be interesting.
Somebody will take a flyer on him in second or as FA is my guess.
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https://twitter.com/Elevation_Prep/status/1366147081472122881
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I have only seen his name in one mock draft. AYo is everywhere from mid teens to late second.
I think Ayo goes first round for sure. Kofi will be interesting.
Somebody will take a flyer on him in second or as FA is my guess.
I hope they go Florida Gators à la ‘06-‘07 and come back to be repeat champs :-)
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I hope they go Florida Gators à la ‘06-‘07 and come back to be repeat champs :-)
WOudl be nice, but will never happen. Ayo is first round near lock. If he has monster tourney he is lotto.
Kid has went from second round/FA territory in December to guaranteed money and roster spot.
Kofi is more of a question mark, but if they have workouts he will know where he might go.
Honestly, if he stays and we grab a couple of those guards we are supposedly in on- we could be right back in the mix.
He could use another year to develop a jump shot and learn how to guard PnR and in space better. On the other hand he can do that in G league or if he makes a roster.
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Eh, I wouldn’t have bet a single dollar on Ayo staying 3 years so I’m not ruling out anything at this point. Covid probably played a role in that, though.
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Ayo was honored at Senior Day. He's gone. Just hope it's after winning the chip.
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Eh, I wouldn’t have bet a single dollar on Ayo staying 3 years so I’m not ruling out anything at this point. Covid probably played a role in that, though.
He wasn't going anywhere last year, covid or no covid. He would have been lucky to get drafted in late second round. He made right decision.
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He wasn't going anywhere last year, covid or no covid. He would have been lucky to get drafted in late second round. He made right decision.
Hasn’t stopped some players before. And the G League seems more palatable to younger players now than it once did.
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He wasn't going anywhere last year, covid or no covid. He would have been lucky to get drafted in late second round. He made right decision.
Got that right. It doesn't usually make financial sense to leave college early unless the player will be a 1st round pick in the upcoming NBA draft. Second round picks don't automatically get the 2 year guaranteed contract (+2 option years) that 1st round picks receive; they're not subject to the rookie scale contract so league minimum or slightly more is common.
Kofi will have an interesting decision to make. NBADraft.net currently projects he'll go early in the 2nd round (34th pick). If he has a great NCAA Tournament, that will certainly help. But the game has been changing for the past @10 years and now there are few traditional low post centers in the NBA. Could be an opportunity for a team that is willing to concede 3 point shots from the opposition's new-age 5, though. Mismatches work both ways.
https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/
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Got that right. It doesn't usually make financial sense to leave college early unless the player will be a 1st round pick in the upcoming NBA draft. Second round picks don't automatically get the 2 year guaranteed contract (+2 option years) that 1st round picks receive; they're not subject to the rookie scale contract so league minimum or slightly more is common.
https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/
This strikes me as a very 2008 take.
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https://twitter.com/bassreggie23/status/1372668767684136965?s=21
He’s announcing tomorrow. We’re in the mix.
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https://twitter.com/bassreggie23/status/1372668767684136965?s=21
He’s announcing tomorrow. We’re in the mix.
2022 Top 200-ish 6-5 skilled lefty combo guard with length.
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I am not a hard core stars or rankings guy, but they generally do give you an indication of a player as these rankings are garnered against their peers in AAU for better or worse.
That said, we are having a monster year and it is no coincidence that we have a lot of talent and several players that were considered strong prospects (Top 40-150 players).
Getting talent is key.
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https://twitter.com/bassreggie23/status/1373023496389980166?s=21
Some more good news. He committed to us today! Welcome aboard!
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His name is Reggie. I like him already.
I almost said “Reggie Lives” when posting the link😂
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He has nice handles for a 6'5 guard. Also a really good passer.
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He has nice handles for a 6'5 guard. Also a really good passer.
Yeah I’m really not a big fan of the rankings on him either. He’s a good player and has the potential to develop in this system. Highly underrated imo.
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Welcome aboard, Reggie. Looks like he has some tools. Maybe a low funky shot?
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Ayo had one too.
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Ayo had one too.
Sure, but in general, you’d prefer it not be low and funky.
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True. I don't know anything about his shot. But it looks like there's a coach on this staff who can fix it if Bass puts in the work.
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This kid is kinda off the radar but the staff is in love with his upside and physical tools. (Shut up Reggie)
I’m inclined to trust them at this point. Kid still has 14 months before he’d ever be on campus.
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The staff is in love with those fucking vice grip thighs.
Underwood seems to get guys with a lot of balls
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He had other high major offers already. Staff seem to assess talent pretty well. He must be a rising prospect.
This staff is not a dorkfck Weber "coach em up" approach as it is not a winning formula to live by at high D1.
Getting guys like Ayo, Kofi, Curbelo, Miller is why we are killing it.
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He had other high major offers already. Staff seem to assess talent pretty well. He must be a rising prospect.
This staff is not a dorkfck Weber "coach em up" approach as it is not a winning formula to live by at high D1.
Getting guys like Ayo, Kofi, Curbelo, Miller is why we are killing it.
Speaking of Weber. Dude still has a job. For now...
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Boakye
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Good to have Breal back.
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Boakye
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Yeah glad he’s back too. This is huge
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Boakye lol
Bobby Hurley is hiring his coach/mentor or something?
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So, he read the Rambling thread and already flipped?
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This will be like the second or third guy in recent weeks they were told they had and....didn’t apparently have
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This will be like the second or third guy in recent weeks they were told they had and....didn’t apparently have
Well fuck. Burnett, TyTy, and Boakye were all at one time or another pretty well locks. Then......
Illinois.
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I was once told recruiting is a fluid
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This will be like the second or third guy in recent weeks they were told they had and....didn’t apparently have
Fuck me.
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Boakye
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You just had to go all LincolnIlliniFan, didn’t you? I blame you for this.
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This will be like the second or third guy in recent weeks they were told they had and....didn’t apparently have
Haven't we seen this movie before?
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Haven't we seen this movie before?
I haven’t been paying attention to this shit much...but holy crap, they (Illinois staff) not real bright here. This was a “mentor recruitment” , foreign-born kid with a leech attached to him for 10 years. No idea how they couldn’t see the forest from the trees here.
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I haven’t been paying attention to this shit much...but holy crap, they (Illinois staff) not real bright here. This was a “mentor recruitment” , foreign-born kid with a leech attached to him for 10 years. No idea how they couldn’t see the forest from the trees here.
Geez.
That is the first thing you assess. Who and how many are you really recruiting in the case?
I thought Antigua knew the game.
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Geez.
That is the first thing you assess. Who and how many are you really recruiting in the case?
I thought Antigua knew the game.
I mean...fuck. You can spell this out in 30 seconds on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/stephenm_brooks/status/1288179046971576322?s=21
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Why is anyone surprised?
We were ranked AP #2 with a 1 seed and proceeded to get housed for 40 minutes by an #8 seed mid major who had beaten absolutely nobody.
When Bill Self or a clone like him comes walking thru the door, wake me up and I’ll be excited again.
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I mean...fuck. You can spell this out in 30 seconds on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/stephenm_brooks/status/1288179046971576322?s=21
If they are a mentor/coach- you find a job for him on staff if that is what it takes.
USC hired Mobley in 2018. Think about that. That is how it is done.
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Why is anyone surprised?
We were ranked AP #2 with a 1 seed and proceeded to get housed for 40 minutes by an #8 seed mid major who had beaten absolutely nobody.
When Bill Self or a clone like him comes walking thru the door, wake me up and I’ll be excited again.
Well whether we like it or not- I am sure that the recruits got an earful about that. Negative recruiting is the norm.
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Why is anyone surprised?
We were ranked AP #2 with a 1 seed and proceeded to get housed for 40 minutes by an #8 seed mid major who had beaten absolutely nobody.
When Bill Self or a clone like him comes walking thru the door, wake me up and I’ll be excited again.
I never would have guessed we just got housed by an 8 seed. Thanks for keeping us all informed!
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If they are a mentor/coach- you find a job for him on staff if that is what it takes.
USC hired Mobley in 2018. Think about that. That is how it is done.
That was the demand they made today. Illinois said no.
....he’s not good enough to get the Mobley treatment
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That was the demand they made today. Illinois said no.
....he’s not good enough to get the Mobley treatment
Did he commit somewhere else?
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You might have to click that link to find out ...
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Boakye
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I guess that’s supposed to mean “he gone?”
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You might have to click that link to find out ...
The only link I see is to a Twitter post from last July when he committed to MSU.
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Sorry, I misunderstood your question.
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Did he commit somewhere else?
ASU is giving his handler/coach a job as an assistant to replace Rashan Burno who took the NIU job. Illinois was given an opportunity today to do the same, declined.
I think he’s announcing tomorrow
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ASU is giving his handler/coach a job as an assistant to replace Rashan Burno who took the NIU job. Illinois was given an opportunity today to do the same, declined.
I think he’s announcing tomorrow
Just so we’re clear, in the future; The Chief pic means “he gone,” because it looks to me like The Chief is saying “it’s good!”
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Just so we’re clear, in the future; The Chief pic means “he gone,” because it looks to me like The Chief is saying “it’s good!”
It’s the curse.....
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That was the demand they made today. Illinois said no.
....he’s not good enough to get the Mobley treatment
Ok, to be honest and not to sound like sour grapes, I did look at his highlight video and thought he is raw athletic kid with pretty limited ball skills. Moves well, great size and length, but he is a project big.
Could have made the mentor a video guy or some shit.
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Recruiting is fluid only when we get nut punched. Nice.
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So we have #94 Goode, the #97 Menendez kid for sure at wings, and maybe the #160 polish Wisconsin Mr. BB scoring guard . Anybody else we are looking at? Grad transfers?
Kofi leaves we are really back in pack.
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So we have #94 Goode, the #97 Menendez kid for sure at wings, and maybe the #160 polish Wisconsin Mr. BB scoring guard . Anybody else we are looking at? Grad transfers?
Kofi leaves we are really back in pack.
Hutcherson will be returning from injury. Supposedly he was/is a stud in practice before he got shut down, but we’ve all heard those urban legends before. Maybe Rob can give us some insight into how Hutch looked?
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It’s the curse.....
Oh yeah, that. What was the excuse when we had The Chief. I don’t remember. Wasn’t that also a curse?
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Hutcherson will be returning from injury. Supposedly he was/is a stud in practice before he got shut down, but we’ve all heard those urban legends before. Maybe Rob can give us some insight into how Hutch looked?
Could help. Kind of forgot about him. Thanks.
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Maybe Rob can give us some insight into how Hutch looked?
Skinny.
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College basketball is such a shithole.
Yeah I’m ok with not giving a coaching position to some jerkoff to rent his player for 2 years. Can you imagine trying to coach a team with this kid on it while dealing with his unqualified mentor every day?
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Yeah I’m ok with not giving a coaching position to some jerkoff to rent his player for 2 years. Can you imagine trying to coach a team with this kid on it while dealing with his unqualified mentor every day?
It has been this way forever. Recruiting can be really strange shit.
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Can you imagine trying to coach a team with this kid on it while dealing with his unqualified mentor every day?
Why do you think he's unqualified?
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Why do you think he's unqualified?
Basically an unheard of guy that runs a prep school in Canada trying to leverage the one big time player he’ll probably ever coach into a US college gig.
This is their mindset:
(https://i.ibb.co/WyzGvQb/094-C626-D-51-F5-43-D7-AD5-C-A4-E8-CE5527-C9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2tMW3wD)
(https://i.ibb.co/hK3hMSy/CAF8-BE40-5554-4099-BF56-C5369-CC071-EC.png) (https://ibb.co/tbVkh94)
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Unheard of by whom?
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This guy gives an analysis.
Handles and motor more impressive than the other video I watched. Shotblocking stinks for his size. Limited face up, but showed a couple.
Can drive from 10-12 feet which is nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dPHyf-hCIg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dPHyf-hCIg)
I don't see one and done here, but they note he is already 19 years old which explains the reclassifying and wanting to move to pros quicker.
Who knows.
Agree that hiring his coach/mentor would have limited value compared to hiring somebody like WIU did with Irvin, but its part of the game. Will not be the last we look at along the way who will want something for their AAU coach, or their dad who is a coach. Some of these guys occasionally have value. Its not like we have a fkcing brain trust of Steve Kerrs and Coach Pops running the show. We could cut the guy loose if he was just taking up space and he could go onto other gigs, or carry water for his guy in pros wherever that is.
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So we have #94 Goode, the #97 Menendez kid for sure at wings, and maybe the #160 polish Wisconsin Mr. BB scoring guard . Anybody else we are looking at? Grad transfers?
Kofi leaves we are really back in pack.
Lot of activity with transfers...but honestly, activity and actual results have been a huge issue at Illinois
Names being mentioned
Tre Mitchell UMASS...stud, but another shady deal. His “mentor” leeched on to an assistant coaching job and is ...engaged to his mother. Another 100% shady deal
Arman Franklin from IU is talking to them.
Sure there’s a boatload of others just starting as it’s wild this year
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Lot of activity with transfers...but honestly, activity and actual results have been a huge issue at Illinois
Names being mentioned
Tre Mitchell UMASS...stud, but another shady deal. His “mentor” leeched on to an assistant coaching job and is ...engaged to his mother. Another 100% shady deal
Arman Franklin from IU is talking to them.
Sure there’s a boatload of others just starting as it’s wild this year
Yeah from what I’ve heard, there are tons of coaches recruiting mostly from the transfer portal market these days. So many kids transferring, it’s almost become the new way to recruit.
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Quite a list of transfers. I probably missed the memo, but how was it that non Grad transfer guys were allowed to play this year like Griffin and Tevian Jones without sitting out?
Did everybody get a Covid pass, or were they under the Mark Smith/Coach Hulka exemption?
https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/TransferPortal/ (https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/TransferPortal/)
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Surprised this Canadian cat was not persuaded by all our great new facilities when he picked ASU over ILL. Guenther Lite may want to open the checkbook a little wider for things other than facilities.
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Quite a list of transfers. I probably missed the memo, but how was it that non Grad transfer guys were allowed to play this year like Griffin and Tevian Jones without sitting out?
Did everybody get a Covid pass, or were they under the Mark Smith/Coach Hulka exemption?
https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/TransferPortal/ (https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Basketball/TransferPortal/)
Whitman signs off on the waiver because it’s good PR, they aren’t competing against us, and it’s the right thing to do.
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Whitman signs off on the waiver because it’s good PR, they aren’t competing against us, and it’s the right thing to do.
Yeah I’ve always said it’s the right thing to do. Just let the kids play.
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Absolutely.
Having them sit out is absurd.
They are not employees and should not be subject to essentially a no compete clause.
I didn't know what the circumstances were. It is not ultimately up to Whitman or these ADs would be just be trading favors.
The NCAA has to be final arbiter I would think.
They must have requested a waiver based on being closer to family.
Certainly supporting that by UI AD is right thing to do.
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Surprised this Canadian cat was not persuaded by all our great new facilities when he picked ASU over ILL. Guenther Lite may want to open the checkbook a little wider for things other than facilities.
It’s truly shocking
The success rate when recruiting Canada guys has been so high for Illinois. I think this miss drops their batting average from .000 to .0000
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It’s truly shocking
The success rate when recruiting Canada guys has been so high for Illinois. I think this miss drops their batting average from .000 to .0000
Yeah, I remember when people thought we were in on Jamal Murray.
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And it is official.
He gone.
https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1375160614478315523?s=20 (https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1375160614478315523?s=20)
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Man, we gave you plenty of time on here to put your cup on!!
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Man, we gave you plenty of time on here to put your cup on!!
I always have one on! That is life as an Illini fan. 😢😢
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This transfer portal is like English Premier League. I read somewhere the Loosiers have 5! LOL
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This transfer portal is like English Premier League. I read somewhere the Loosiers have 5! LOL
Yeah it seems their program is FUCKED!😂
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Yeah it seems their program is FUCKED!😂
Well, except for Davis at center they were kind of terrible.
Might as well blow it up.
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Yeah it seems their program is FUCKED!😂
Unfortunately this opens the door for them to bring in good basketball players
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Unfortunately this opens the door for them to bring in good basketball players
What good player in their right mind will want to go to that dumpster fire rebuild?
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They should be down for at least there years. If the rumor about a Mike Woodson experiment is true, it could be a whole decade.
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Another swing and a miss for the illinment. How many top recruits have they missed over the past 7 or 8 months? Seems like a ton. This is getting kind of concerning.
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Lots of competition for these elite level kids. Got a couple good pieces. Having openings could end up being a blessing in disguise going into this crazy transfer season. Keep a healthy mix of top 100 HS talent coming in along with college known quantities
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Lots of competition for these elite level kids. Got a couple good pieces. Having openings could end up being a blessing in disguise going into this crazy transfer season. Keep a healthy mix of top 100 HS talent coming in along with college known quantities
My thoughts exactly
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If Kofi leaves we are going to really struggle. Will not likely make the tourney.
I am guessing the guard/wing recruits are being told by other teams Kofi is gone and we are fcked.
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Uhhhhhhhhhh 😳
https://twitter.com/junga_waffler/status/1375262481250127875?s=21
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Uhhhhhhhhhh 😳
https://twitter.com/junga_waffler/status/1375262481250127875?s=21
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Uhhhhhhhhhh 😳
https://twitter.com/junga_waffler/status/1375262481250127875?s=21
We don't want Carr.
Don't see Liddell moving. Guy shits Buckeyes. Is a warrior for them.
Krutwig....is he taking the covid year 5th year somewhere? If Moser leaves he might leave. Guy has decent Euro money written all over him.
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Hey I didn’t say it was true. 😂🤣 there’s some crazy motherfuckers out there though! Who knows 🤷🏻♂️
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We don't want Carr.
Don't see Liddell moving. Guy shits Buckeyes. Is a warrior for them.
Krutwig....is he taking the covid year 5th year somewhere? If Moser leaves he might leave. Guy has decent Euro money written all over him.
Agreed on all points. Just can’t see Krutwig saying anything in the middle of a tourney run. I’d take him in a heartbeat though.
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She is really hot.
Jobu- what do you think of her voice?? I think it moves her to a solid 9.
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Unfortunately this opens the door for them to bring in good basketball players
Yeah, nobody cares about Indiana anymore. They haven’t since Knight left. Even Mike Davis made him look good for a year. Everyone else has been whatever. Indiana is no longer a blue blood or relevant and there’s nobody beating down the door to play there. If there were Ole Brad would’ve given it a go. Even he knows they’re cow dung.
But after the Kelvin Sampson deal I don’t entirely feel sorry for them or anyone that hires Pearl once they get put on probation for something stupid he does.
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Things are progressing with Franklin. Engaged with him and his mother.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4431744/armaan-franklin
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Things are progressing with Franklin. Engaged with him and his mother.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4431744/armaan-franklin
This would be a great pickup for us. Especially if he can reach his full potential.
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I'm starting to think recruiting 3 stars for your system who may actually stay 4 years, and filling in with transfers may be preferable to investing time and money hoping for a 4 or 5 star high school kid to sign and transfer out after a year or two.
Re granting waivers. If the school let's the kid know that transferring might be something to consider, sign the waiver. If a kid just wants out to go play for a different in-conference program, its ok to think about whether or not you want to sign the waiver.
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This would be a great pickup for us. Especially if he can reach his full potential.
I remain skeptical on transfers until pen hits paper. Things are certainly different now but they haven’t landed a high major transfer since Starks I think (yikes)
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So if they approve the one time transfer with no sitting out for 2021-22 he could play next year?
He is decent player.
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Things are progressing with Franklin. Engaged with him and his mother.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4431744/armaan-franklin
So who had to volunteer to marry his mother??? LOL.
And people here think hiring a mentor to be a video guy is too much.
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So who had to volunteer to marry his mother??? LOL.
And people here think hiring a mentor to be a video guy is too much.
Oops, I should have been clearer
Engaged = did a zoom call with her (hopefully nothing else lol)
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Would be a solid replacement for Trent. If Kofi comes back, Miller and Curbelo have normal freshman to sophomore jumps and we add a legitimate transfer at the 4, next years team could be pretty damned good.
If Kofi goes, we better clean up in the transfer market or it’s gonna be a long year.
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Would be a solid replacement for Trent. If Kofi comes back, Miller and Curbelo have normal freshman to sophomore jumps and we add a legitimate transfer at the 4, next years team could be pretty damned good.
If Kofi goes, we better clean up in the transfer market or it’s gonna be a long year.
This. ^^^^
I don't see why Kofi would stay if his goal is to get into the NBA.
I get that he might make some bucks with the NIL thing, but that isn't going to teach him how to pass, make a 15 footer, or guard in space against grown-ass men.
Maybe he does, but he would only marginally improve his draft status unless he has some major growth in his game. It is hard to do unless it is your FT job.
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Of course I want Kofi to come back but he’s already 22, and he’s not going to develop at the rate he could in the G League because we are going to play him 5’ from the basket all year again.
I can’t imagine this last season of ball was much fun with no traditional college or family life whatsoever. Hopefully next season things are normal-ish but it’s hard to say how going through a season like they just went through could weigh on a person’s decision to come back.
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Of course I want Kofi to come back but he’s already 22, and he’s not going to develop at the rate he could in the G League because we are going to play him 5’ from the basket all year again.
I can’t imagine this last season of ball was much fun with no traditional college or family life whatsoever. Hopefully next season things are normal-ish but it’s hard to say how going through a season like they just went through could weigh on a person’s decision to come back.
I did not realize he would be 22 in September.
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They should be down for at least there years. If the rumor about a Mike Woodson experiment is true, it could be a whole decade.
Sounds good to me
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Ramses "RJ" Melendez and Luke Goode appear to be complementary 6-7ish
wings. RJM just won King of the Court at some event. Seems to be a plus athlete with the skills to slash or shoot. Goode shot 40% from 3.
Austin Hutcherson might be back. If healthy, he supposedly would've been the best athlete and best 3 point shooter on the team. Also has the handle to play lead guard.
Assuming Ayo will declare and stay in the draft, there Is only one opening at this time. Others could still declare or transfer out.
Under special rules, TF and DMW are eligible to return and must declare to be eligible for the draft. If they were to return; which seems unlikely, they would not count.
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Austin Hutcherson might be back. If healthy, he supposedly would've been the best athlete and best 3 point shooter on the team. Also has the handle to play lead guard.
When you're buying into Underwood's hype talk, keep in mind what he said about Mark Smith. Or Matic Vesel.
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When you're buying into Underwood's hype talk, keep in mind what he said about Mark Smith. Or Matic Vesel.
Hence supposedly.
Uberwood has not approached Bob Blackman levels of hype.
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His stats in D3 his sophomore year were indicative of a high volume streaky shooter.
https://athletics.wesleyan.edu/sports/mens-basketball/roster/austin-hutcherson/4233 (https://athletics.wesleyan.edu/sports/mens-basketball/roster/austin-hutcherson/4233)
Will need to see how he does. Getting quality looks at D1 is tougher.
Maybe he will be a player which would be great. Sounds athletic.
Sounds like a wing.
If we get a Franklin, then play Hutcherson and Grandison at the 4.
We will be small again.
Use Georgi and the others mentioned at the 5 and 4.
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Color me pretty skeptical on the Hutcherson hype talk, and there’s been a lot lately. Anything over guy/role player seems unlikely
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Color me pretty skeptical on the Hutcherson hype talk, and there’s been a lot lately. Anything over guy/role player seems unlikely
Well, he may be pressed into service. Lol.
Unless Kofi stays or we get some more recruits, this could look like Coach Hulka's first couple years.
Next few weeks critical.
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Someone texted me that Mark Smith is in the transfer portal. Is this true? If so, what a giant vag!
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Someone texted me that Mark Smith is in the transfer portal. Is this true? If so, what a giant vag!
Can we get him? So many minutes he could play here.
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I haven't heard any discussion about this, but I think Trent and Damonte could come back next year because of COVID.
Is that a possibility?
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This was a free year so yes they can come back. From what I’ve read it sounds like Trent will be gone for sure and DMW probably gone as well.
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Someone texted me that Mark Smith is in the transfer portal. Is this true? If so, what a giant vag!
Papa Smith not happy with Clownzo?
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This was a free year so yes they can come back. From what I’ve read it sounds like Trent will be gone for sure and DMW probably gone as well.
Their choice or Brad's?
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Trent wants to get paid. Sounds like Monte does too. Probably will see what interest they have and go from there.
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Trent wants to get paid. Sounds like Monte does too. Probably will see what interest they have and go from there.
Hmmm. I wouldn't have thought either one was quite the caliber player to pursue a pro career. I wish them well.
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No the NBA won’t come calling but even Jaylon Tate got paid to play basketball.
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Someone texted me that Mark Smith is in the transfer portal. Is this true? If so, what a giant vag!
Yes. Also Parker Braun.
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Papa Smith not happy with Clownzo?
Clownzo probably yelled at him too and hurt little Mark's feelings. Someone buy Mark Smith a tube of vagisil.
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“Underwood called me a pussy!”
—Mark Smith
“He was right”
—Cuonzo Martin
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He got 3-5 minutes taken away.
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I haven't heard any discussion about this, but I think Trent and Damonte could come back next year because of COVID.
Is that a possibility?
Still up in the air on both. I think Williams likely back
Illinois is now talking to Franklin a lot, and the other IU kid Parker Stewart (transfer who was sitting out). Also talking with Myles Johnson (Rutgers C), Tre Mitchell, Miller Kopp (yuck)
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Brad definitely likes Miller Kopp. And Franklin.
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Character not characters
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Franklin yes.
Johnson yes.
Mitchell yes.
Kopp fuck no.
Stewart not unless we have to.
Damonte. Of course.
This portal thing is crazy this year.
But if this tourney shows anything you need length and athleticism.
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Myles Johnson in a heartbeat.
And from today's fishwrap. FSU is the tallest team in the country, and holding opponents to under 44% shooting inside ( 9th nationally ). Tough day for Dickinson maybe ?
It seems like Hamilton always has FSU tall and athletic.
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Myles Johnson in a heartbeat.
And from today's fishwrap. FSU is the tallest team in the country, and holding opponents to under 44% shooting inside ( 9th nationally ). Tough day for Dickinson maybe ?
It seems like Hamilton always has FSU tall and athletic.
I’m a huge Scottie Barnes fan. His ceiling is so high and he hasn’t even tapped half his potential. He could be the next Magic Johnson if he has the drive.
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Myles Johnson has said he is looking at some pac 12 schools with alot of interest. Family & cont. engineering degree were stated as biggest factors
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Myles Johnson has said he is looking at some pac 12 schools with alot of interest. Family & cont. engineering degree were stated as biggest factors
Illinois is an engineering school. More so than any other Pac12 school. Johnson would be a huge get.
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If Trent came back I could see him leading the team in scoring.
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Myles Johnson has said he is looking at some pac 12 schools with alot of interest. Family & cont. engineering degree were stated as biggest factors
They are 100% talking to him
Depends on Kofi’s status as to how it progresses
Parker Stewart intrigues me, but not sure that’s as serious as the others yet
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They are 100% talking to him
Depends on Kofi’s status as to how it progresses
Parker Stewart intrigues me, but not sure that’s as serious as the others yet
Stewart's shooting numbers are not so great. Another high volume low percentage guy. Unless he plays longer than 6'5" and athletic not sure about him.
But I don't know much about him.
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Color me pretty skeptical on the Hutcherson hype talk, and there’s been a lot lately. Anything over guy/role player seems unlikely
Apparently it is coming from more people than just Underwood. Talk is he played really well in practice before the back acted up. There are exceptions, but play at practice usually translates.
I have no specific information about his health. General information about spinal stress fractures indicates most recover fully with treatment.
https://youtu.be/m3gLBtB5NO8
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Apparently it is coming from more people than just Underwood. Talk is he played really well in practice before the back acted up. There are exceptions, but play at practice usually translates.
I have no specific information about his health. General information about spinal stress fractures indicates most recover fully with treatment.
https://youtu.be/m3gLBtB5NO8
Thanks for video.
Based upon that clip which I believe has every single three he ever made in his career, LOL, he might have best stroke of any present Illini. Looks equally comfortable off the bounce and catch and shoot.
Does all the right things on his shot. He should help.
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Of course I want Kofi to come back but he’s already 22, and he’s not going to develop at the rate he could in the G League because we are going to play him 5’ from the basket all year again.
I can’t imagine this last season of ball was much fun with no traditional college or family life whatsoever. Hopefully next season things are normal-ish but it’s hard to say how going through a season like they just went through could weigh on a person’s decision to come back.
Kofi’s already 22? Did not know this.
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Apparently it is coming from more people than just Underwood.
An Austin Hutcherson mixtape from Austin Hutcherson's YouTube channel casts a favorable light on Austin Hutcherson?!?!
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Can we get him? So many minutes he could play here.
I could see 3 to 5 for him, easy.
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I’m a huge Scottie Barnes fan. His ceiling is so high and he hasn’t even tapped half his potential. He could be the next Magic Johnson if he has the drive.
Would be great to see him in a Bulls uniform.
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Kofi’s already 22? Did not know this.
I was wrong on that he turns 22 Sept 1.
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Would be great to see him in a Bulls uniform.
Yeah agreed. He’s definitely got the highest ceiling of this draft class. He’s got that it factor.
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An Austin Hutcherson mixtape from Austin Hutcherson's YouTube channel casts a favorable light on Austin Hutcherson?!?!
So you think he faked it? I realize that was D-3 competition, but that does not affect overall athleticism, shooting stroke, or 88% on free throws.
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So you think he faked it? I realize that was D-3 competition, but that does not affect overall athleticism, shooting stroke, or 88% on free throws.
Which of these words, phrases and clauses do you think is the single most important?
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Which of these words, phrases and clauses do you think is the single most important?
overall athleticism, shooting stroke, 88% on free throws
I realize the Big Ten plays tough free throw defense, but ...
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Well, that's charming.
He averaged 3.4 FTs per game in his most recent season. That includes 2-of-2 against Johnson & Wales, 2-of-3 against Pine Manor College and 2-of-2 against Purchase State.
He attempted zero FTs in their lone game at Bates and zero in one of their two games at Amherst.
Three-point specialists often don't shoot a lot of FTs, as you may know.
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Well, that's charming.
He averaged 3.4 FTs per game in his most recent season. That includes 2-of-2 against Johnson & Wales, 2-of-3 against Pine Manor College and 2-of-2 against Purchase State.
He attempted zero FTs in their lone game at Bates and zero in one of their two games at Amherst.
Three-point specialists often don't shoot a lot of FTs, as you may know.
FT 85-96 seems like a decent sample size.
FG 175-394
3PT 65-166
I also would not describe him as a three point specialist, since 58% of his shots were not threes. That is 9 + plus 2 point shots per game. He shot a lot period.
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That shot will travel. Don't know about rest of his game but
I can see why they took a flyer on him.
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Illinois getting pretty aggressive in reaching out to bigs
I would think it’s pretty unlikely but they jumped in on the EWU dude that gave Kansas issues, and I’m not familiar with this guy at all but Georgetown C
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4431739/qudus-wahab
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Three-point specialists
Check out this 3-point specialist:
https://twitter.com/KedPrince4/status/1366568030789120000
https://twitter.com/KedPrince4/status/1376262350475509762
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Illinois getting pretty aggressive in reaching out to bigs
I would think it’s pretty unlikely but they jumped in on the EWU dude that gave Kansas issues, and I’m not familiar with this guy at all but Georgetown C
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4431739/qudus-wahab
Have to think the Groves brothers follow Legans to Portland.
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Check out this 3-point specialist:
https://twitter.com/KedPrince4/status/1366568030789120000
https://twitter.com/KedPrince4/status/1376262350475509762
Looks pretty good there with Tempo guarding him but YTBD in actual action
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Looks pretty good there with Tempo guarding him but YTBD in actual action
He looks like he has a nice fundamentally sound stroke and some hops.
Lets see how it translates into high D1.
Might be a player.
Kedric is a total homer. LOL.
Nice guy.
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He looks like he has a nice fundamentally sound stroke and some hops.
Lets see how it translates into high D1.
Might be a player.
Kedric is a total homer. LOL.
Nice guy.
Yeah agreed. Ked is a cool guy, but he’s the very definition of a homer. I don’t think he’s ever said a bad or critical thing about the team or coaches. He actually goes way out of his way to defend them.
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Yeah agreed. Ked is a cool guy, but he’s the very definition of a homer. I don’t think he’s ever said a bad or critical thing about the team or coaches. He actually goes way out of his way to defend them.
I know him from AAU, and know his family well. Good people.
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Looks pretty good there with Tempo guarding him but YTBD in actual action
looks like he's playing on a 9' rim haha
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looks like he's playing on a 9' rim haha
I thought the same thing.
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looks like he's playing on a 9' rim haha
I am very interested to see him in action. He has a really pure one motion quick release shooting motion. Feet, body angle, hop, dip are all correct off catch and dribble.
Looks like he has range too.
We actually really lacked a major 3 point shooting threat, and length and pure athleticism.
Maybe he helps.
Miller certainly can become a bigger threat also and has nice stroke and got better off the dribble, but he is only guy that is viable threat right now.
Grandison and Damonte are more secondary guys and both require the right catch and shoot setup.
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When Grandison started playing I thought it was Hutcherson
I honestly did forget about this guy
hopefully he can contribute in a big way or else we're likely to not be very good without kofi, trent and ayo and damonte
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When Grandison started playing I thought it was Hutcherson
I honestly did forget about this guy
hopefully he can contribute in a big way or else we're likely to not be very good without kofi, trent and ayo and damonte
Even if Kofi doesn’t come back I think we’re a solid tourney team. 6-10 seed. If Kofi comes back we’re back in the Final Four discussion.
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Now look at Dee.
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Even if Kofi doesn’t come back I think we’re a solid tourney team. 6-10 seed. If Kofi comes back we’re back in the Final Four discussion.
I would disagree and don't want to find out unless we add a few players ready to go if he leaves.
If Kofi leaves and we don't add 3 or more rotation ready guys we are in trouble.
If he stays we are Top 20.
If we add some guys and he stays then maybe we are in Top 10 mix again.
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Looks pretty good there with Tempo guarding him but YTBD in actual action
I used to dunk like that.
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I would disagree and don't want to find out unless we add a few players ready to go if he leaves.
If Kofi leaves and we don't add 3 or more rotation ready guys we are in trouble.
If he stays we are Top 20.
If we add some guys and he stays then maybe we are in Top 10 mix again.
Assuming we lose Kofi and get no significant additions, depth would be a real concern. If Curbelo or Giorgi were to go down, that would be a game changer. I think Curbelo could be 1st or 2nd team ABT and an AA candidate. Giorgi is capable, but I’d prefer he get some frontcourt help. Health would be key. I think it’s a tourney team with good health and normal/reasonable progression from others.
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You don’t have to be a world beater to get a 9 seed.
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He means "all-Big Ten."
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He means "all-Big Ten."
Clever one, you are.
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You don’t have to be a world beater to get a 9 seed.
Underwood needs to maintain the program at a minimum top 15-25 and 4-6 seed.
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Underwood needs to maintain the program at a minimum top 15-25 and 4-6 seed.
I wouldn’t be upset with an 8-9 seed next year if Underwood has a good recruiting year.
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If Kofi leaves and we do not add significant new talent or Hutch does not turn out to be a stud, we are going to be bubble team at best.
Curbello is special playmaker who can't hit a jumper yet. Miller can't score off bounce. We will kind of suck on both sides of the ball.
Georgi is serviceable.
Will look like Hulka's second year.
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Nm
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lol Custard locked the Underwood thread. What a little bitch.
I was just about to go into the "accomplishments" of Young Hickory too.
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He looks like he has a nice fundamentally sound stroke and some hops.
Lets see how it translates into high D1.
Might be a player.
Kedric is a total homer. LOL.
Nice guy.
Seems like a nice guy but....yeah
His friendship with Swami is a pretty not so great look either
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Seems like a nice guy but....yeah
His friendship with Swami is a pretty not so great look either
Yeah I noticed that too. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it. Looks like Ked better straighten up or he’s gonna have people dropping him left and right. I think I will if that’s the case. I thought they were just mentioned in the same tweet. I didn’t know they actually collaborated on stuff. 😬 bad look for sure.
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Remind me again, who is Swami?? Lol
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Remind me again, who is Swami?? Lol
Chris Berman?
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/21/Carnac.jpg/300px-Carnac.jpg)
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Remind me again, who is Swami?? Lol
His name is Ryan Evans on Twitter, but his real name is Ryan Schroat. He’s from Decatur and he switched his name and was trying to hide that he was convicted of beating a child.
https://herald-review.com/news/local/man-accused-of-battering-injuring-5-year-old-boy/article_c41c6344-b213-11e2-91e4-0019bb2963f4.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/amp/OtherGround/CiesReinhardt-repost-man-beats-5-year-old-child:2268641
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You'd really want to know about convictions rather than charges.
I recommend the Macon County Circuit Clerk for that.
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You'd really want to know about convictions rather than charges.
I recommend the Macon County Circuit Clerk for that.
Good point.
https://judici.com/courts/cases/case_dispositions.jsp?court=IL058015J&ocl=IL058015J,2013CF463,IL058015JL2013CF463D1
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Someone actually worthy of Rob’s ass cancer curses
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So, looks like he is guilty of a class 3 felony for beating a child.
Seems like a piece of shit to me.
Oh, that mthrfcker.
Yes. Sounds like a total piece of shit.
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Oh, that mthrfcker.
Yes. Sounds like a total piece of shit.
Yeah and yet people are like diehard supporters of him. It’s like a cult. He’s a POS motherfucker!
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/21/Carnac.jpg/300px-Carnac.jpg)
Carnac the Magnificent!
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Mark Smith is going to play for Markerface!
We shall never hear about him again......
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Mark Smith is going to play for Markerface!
We shall never hear about him again......
Too good to be true
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Mark Smith is going to play for Markerface!
We shall never hear about him again......
Oh, thank you sweet Lord!
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Mark Smith is going to play for Markerface!
We shall never hear about him again......
hahahaha no fuckin way
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So he is taking a extra Covid year and going to play for the worst team in BIG 12?
Wow.
His numbers this year were terrible. He is getting worse each year.
He can't shoot at all anymore.
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So he is taking a extra Covid year and going to play for the worst team in BIG 12?
Wow.
His numbers this year were terrible. He is getting worse each year.
He can't shoot at all anymore.
He'll fit right in at Kansas St.
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He'll fit right in at Kansas St.
Weber needs to get him that extra 3-5 minutes tho.
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Weber needs to get him that extra 3-5 minutes tho.
should be plenty of minutes available LOL!
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So I guess since Weber still has a job, K State has just given up on basketball? Is Weber’s buddy still the AD?
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That is rich. Harv must be creamin' his jeans.
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That is rich. Harv must be creamin' his jeans.
Think he’s still alive?
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https://twitter.com/theillinifn/status/1376902846768111622?s=21
Here’s some of our recruiting news and names.
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https://twitter.com/theillinifn/status/1376902846768111622?s=21
Here’s some of our recruiting news and names.
Sounds about right. Podz sounds likely although it’s a very quiet recruitment with not much chatter
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Who are the three mystery recruits that reached out to Illinois staff?
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Sounds about right. Podz sounds likely although it’s a very quiet recruitment with not much chatter
This is odd one. Lots of high major offers including Kentucky.
Is ranked pretty low still.
He can shoot, and is a scorer, and has size.
Looks average athletically which might be a concern.
We need shooters badly so sounds good to me.
My guess is he sees more playing time projected here along the way vs a role guy off bench for a Kentucky.
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I wasn’t aware Giorgi was up in the air. Sounds like a very strong chance he’s out.
Williams and Frazier both iffy too, especially Frazier
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I wasn’t aware Giorgi was up in the air. Sounds like a very strong chance he’s out.
Williams and Frazier both iffy too, especially Frazier
Well, that sucks. We need Giorgi. Would love to see Frazier another year.
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I wasn’t aware Giorgi was up in the air. Sounds like a very strong chance he’s out.
Williams and Frazier both iffy too, especially Frazier
Well that would suck :(
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I wasn’t aware Giorgi was up in the air. Sounds like a very strong chance he’s out.
Williams and Frazier both iffy too, especially Frazier
Williams and Frazier are out of eligibility?
EDIT: ok I forgot about the Covid eligibility. I would hate to lose any of those guys.
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Mark Smith is going to play for Markerface!
We shall never hear about him again......
I imagine he won’t be racking up many too Matto points for Bruce
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Mark Smith is going to play for Markerface!
We shall never hear about him again......
Is this for real or from The Onion?
;D
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I wasn’t aware Giorgi was up in the air.
It's unfortunate that the best lure for keeping Kofi is the friendship that limits Giorgi's on-court potential.
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Wait, Giorgi is only a junior...... why would he leave.
Rob is right. If he leaves zero chance Kofi stays.
And it was slim anyway.
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Sure reads like this team is about to get blown up.
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Tempo says we make tourney easy and Curbelo is AA.
He says if Kofi stays we are FF.
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Oh. Well then I suppose it's been established.
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Tempo says we make tourney easy and Curbelo is AA.
He says if Kofi stays we are FF.
Doesn't sound like he is riding the fence on that one.
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Even if Kofi doesn’t come back I think we’re a solid tourney team. 6-10 seed. If Kofi comes back we’re back in the Final Four discussion.
It is hereby proclaimed.
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Assuming we lose Kofi and get no significant additions, depth would be a real concern. If Curbelo or Giorgi were to go down, that would be a game changer. I think Curbelo could be 1st or 2nd team ABT and an AA candidate. Giorgi is capable, but I’d prefer he get some frontcourt help. Health would be key. I think it’s a tourney team with good health and normal/reasonable progression from others.
And Curbelo is AA.
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Wait, Giorgi is only a junior...... why would he leave.
Rob is right. If he leaves zero chance Kofi stays.
And it was slim anyway.
Going back home after graduation in May.
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Going back home after graduation in May.
So he graduated early. He can probably play somewhere overseas if he wishes, and woudl be closer to fmaily.
Wish him all the best if he decides to go that route.
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If we lose Kofi and Giorgi say hello to an 8 seed. In the NIT (is it still a thing?).
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Nice little run for USC. Good TO by Few.
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So he graduated early. He can probably play somewhere overseas if he wishes, and woudl be closer to fmaily.
Wish him all the best if he decides to go that route.
Makes sense I guess, I just assumed he’d stay. We’ll see
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Makes sense I guess, I just assumed he’d stay. We’ll see
Lots of unknowns for this team. Need some bodies.
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After Giorgi came to Illinois I did a lot of reading about Georgia. The one in Europe, not the racist one. Seems like a lot cooler place overall than ECI. I believe he was partnered with a gal on the women’s BB team at one time but perhaps that’s over. Been pretty difficult to take her to meet mom.
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Nancy Panagiotopoulou Andritsopoulou is worth Googling.
She's not sticking around either.
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Nancy Panagiotopoulou Andritsopoulou is worth Googling.
She's not sticking around either.
So I went to the grocery store today and what did I see out of the corner of my eye? Jordan Almonds. First time I’d seen them in forever.
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'tis the season
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Nancy Panagiotopoulou Andritsopoulou is worth Googling.
She's not sticking around either.
But she has twice as many Lous in her name as THE Lou.
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Some girls' mothers are bigger than
other girls' mothers.
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Some girls' mothers are bigger than
other girls' mothers.
That’s why you never commit to the heifer until you’ve seen the dam
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Some girls' mothers are bigger than
other girls' mothers.
Some girls take my money, some girls take my clothes
Some girls get the shirt off my back, and leave me with a lethal dose
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Some girls take my money, some girls take my clothes
Some girls get the shirt off my back, and leave me with a lethal dose
Tempo = Mick Jagger is a match!
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Tempo = Mick Jagger is a match!
I’d rather be Keith Richards.
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If Tempo were a Rolling Stone, which Rolling Stone would Tempo be?
Finna say Mick Taylor.
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If Tempo were a Rolling Stone, which Rolling Stone would Tempo be?
Finna say Mick Taylor.
Nah. I think Tempo would be Bill Wyman.
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Too steady.
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Too steady.
On the exterior. Given his marriage situation, not too sure.
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Definitely Mick or Keith.
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Charlie Watts is definitely steady.
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Definitely Mick or Keith.
You could play to stereotype at least and yank his chain by saying Brian Jones.
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Nope. Definitely not.
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Charlie Watts is definitely steady.
It’s what drummers do.
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You could play to stereotype at least and yank his chain by saying Brian Jones.
Mick or Brian Jones don’t drive traffic like I do.
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https://youtu.be/4FvWWlDdy9s
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Omar Payne Florida transfer gaining mentions
Pretty underwhelming 2 year career for a once top 50 recruit.
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That's a great name, tho. I fucking love the name Omar. If I could go back in time, I would name my son Omar.
Change it legally.
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Pretty underwhelming 2 year career for a once top 50 recruit.
Sounds exactly like somebody we'd be after.
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This is impressive.
Character, not characters.
https://youtu.be/e5wvVWSVHQU
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Awesome. I want this mother fucker.
We have him change his name to Jobu.
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Awesome. I want this mother fucker.
Tempo loves him. Took out a white guy.
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I am sensing we are at defcon 4 here and teetering toward a potential bottom feeder team with occasional upsets, unless we snag about 3 immediate rotation big and wing guys.
Staff better get busy.
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Didn't Dee fck a MILF of a recruit?
We could bring him back to help.
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This is impressive.
Character, not characters.
https://youtu.be/e5wvVWSVHQU
Yeah they really like this guy I guess
....I’m not sure why but...yeah. Might be your starting C 😑
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Well, you need the boosters to uh......donate needed ......uh support for the youth development ....uh programs..... for the AAU....uh youth educational and development thingies they do.
It takes a village to raise a team.
So Dee was just doing donor cultivation.
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Yeah they really like this guy I guess
....I’m not sure why but...yeah. Might be your starting C 😑
Fuck me.
This really sounds like we could be losing both Kofi and Giorgi.
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I love Giorgi but he’s hardly irreplaceable. Their offensive stats are comparable and Payne is a more capable defender.
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Jack Nunge is transferring from xxxx. Looks like he's had a tough year.
Being closer to family and home can be a strong force.
I have to think that Giorgi will be forever grateful for his time in Champaign, and hearing announcers talk about what kind of guy he is says something.
I'd love to see it continue for Giorgi in C-U, but whatever he thinks is best works for me.
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Obviously Kofi has been fun to watch develop and was a huge part of this years success but would also like to point out that no team with a dominant traditional big man is in the final four. Give me great guards and versatile forwards all day every day.
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I love Giorgi but he’s hardly irreplaceable. Their offensive stats are comparable and Payne is a more capable defender.
Tempo says we are a 6 seed with Giorgi. He then claims we are lucky to be a 8 seed in NIT team without him.
It is somewhere in between.
I do think you are not considering Giorgi's production as full time center his freshman year which was 12/5 in 26 mpg.
I think with freshman production Giorgi and a couple immediate rotation transfers and Hutcherson contributing we can maybe sneak into tourney.
Payne did not do much in 15 mpg and has some head issues obviously. Pass on him.
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Jack Nunge is transferring from xxxx. Looks like he's had a tough year.
Being closer to family and home can be a strong force.
I have to think that Giorgi will be forever grateful for his time in Champaign, and hearing announcers talk about what kind of guy he is says something.
I'd love to see it continue for Giorgi in C-U, but whatever he thinks is best works for me.
That really hurts Iowa.
He was decent interior with range.
They are in similar situation as us with possibly no post, but will have much better perimeter guys in Weiskamp, Murray. Frederick, Toussaint, younger McCaffery, older McCaffery, Perkins.
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Tempo says we are a 6 seed with Giorgi. He then claims we are lucky to be a 8 seed in NIT team without him.
It is somewhere in between.
If you have not learned yet, it is "either/or" or "black/white" with Tempo. Even, somehow, when he is "riding the fence." I really do not know how he does it.
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Yeah they really like this guy I guess
....I’m not sure why but...yeah. Might be your starting C 😑
Well, may as well be the toughest team in the Federal League if nothing else.
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If you have not learned yet, it is "either/or" or "black/white" with Tempo. Even, somehow, when he is "riding the fence." I really do not know how he does it.
He is covering all of his bases.
FF with Kofi and soon to be AA in Curbelo.
6 seed with no Kofi, but we have Giorgi.
And....we turn to absolute complete shit if we lose Giorgi who apparently is the difference between TOP 25 and being total garbage.
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If you have not learned yet, it is "either/or" or "black/white" with Tempo. Even, somehow, when he is "riding the fence." I really do not know how he does it.
I seem to remember a 10 page thread on Underwood going to Texas.
It's an art.
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Parker Stewart staying at IU
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This is impressive.
Character, not characters.
https://youtu.be/e5wvVWSVHQU
Minimum 6 game suspension if I’m the one deciding the penalty.
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Tempo says we are a 6 seed with Giorgi. He then claims we are lucky to be a 8 seed in NIT team without him.
It is somewhere in between.
I do think you are not considering Giorgi's production as full time center his freshman year which was 12/5 in 26 mpg.
I think with freshman production Giorgi and a couple immediate rotation transfers and Hutcherson contributing we can maybe sneak into tourney.
Payne did not do much in 15 mpg and has some head issues obviously. Pass on him.
I believe I said 6-10 seed. And yes, going from one pretty good big man to zero is fairly problematic. Also, I was probably exaggerating a few NIT seeds. More like a 5 seed.
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If you have not learned yet, it is "either/or" or "black/white" with Tempo. Even, somehow, when he is "riding the fence." I really do not know how he does it.
I’m confused. This sounds like word salad. Was that a compliment? A back-handed one at that?
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I love Giorgi but he’s hardly irreplaceable. Their offensive stats are comparable and Payne is a more capable defender.
He might be irreplaceable (for us). Giorgi averaged 12.5 and 5 as a freshman before having his minutes cut In Half to make way for the best true big we’ve had in our lifetimes. Didn’t Giorgi set a single scoring record for a freshman? A senior Giorgi is a pretty important cog in the machine next year.
And asking a guy with run of the mill freshman numbers to replace him is probably a big ask.
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Was that a compliment?
Yes. Exactly.
Booooo-urns.
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He is covering all of his bases.
FF with Kofi and soon to be AA in Curbelo.
6 seed with no Kofi, but we have Giorgi.
And....we turn to absolute complete shit if we lose Giorgi who apparently is the difference between TOP 25 and being total garbage.
Again, I said 6-10 seed, so a moderately seeded team. As you probably know, 10 seeds from P5 conferences are barely more than bubble teams. So yes, If we lose our only established big (assuming Kofi is gone as well), we could go from bubblelicious to NIT.
I also said Curbelo “could be an AA candidate.” You’re working hard to stretch my statements out there. Can’t you just go off what I actually said instead of working the outermost edges to get the best case scenarios?
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I’m confused. This sounds like word salad. Was that a compliment? A back-handed one at that?
I was harkening back to when you caught Rob in that word salad.
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Again, I said 6-10 seed, so a moderately seeded team. As you probably know, 10 seeds from P5 conferences are barely more than bubble teams. So yes, If we lose our only established big (assuming Kofi is gone as well), we could go from bubblelicious to NIT.
I also said Curbelo “could be an AA candidate.” You’re working hard to stretch my statements out there. Can’t you just go off what I actually said instead of working the outermost edges to get the best case scenarios?
Dunno- they were your words. I guess you actually meant something else. Duly noted.
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Dunno- they were your words. I guess you actually meant something else. Duly noted.
I meant what I wrote. Which you conveniently left out some important context and components of what I said.
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Parker Stewart to stay at IU, Franklin likely will not.
Sounds very likely Podziemski is coming
Nunge and Illinois are now talking, in addition to Payne
Gurley (Furman) and Tre Mitchell (UMASS) too, although not too
Optimistic
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C'mon guys. Ease up.
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I like Tempo's game he really brings some different looks here
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I like Tempo's game he really brings some different looks here
Tempo really doesn't like it when Tempo says stupid shit.
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Parker Stewart to stay at IU, Franklin likely will not.
Sounds very likely Podziemski is coming
Nunge and Illinois are now talking, in addition to Payne
Gurley (Furman) and Tre Mitchell (UMASS) too, although not too
Optimistic
Thanks Breal.
I see Nunge is from Southern Indiana. Maybe wants to be closer to family after his loss this year.
Decent player. Can shoot a little bit. Hard worker.
Any info on any scoring wings/forwards? Counting on Goode, Hutch, Podz, Grandison, Melendez, Hawkins at this point.
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Thanks Breal.
I see Nunge is from Southern Indiana. Maybe wants to be closer to family after his loss this year.
Decent player. Can shoot a little bit. Hard worker.
Any info on any scoring wings/forwards? Counting on Goode, Hutch, Podz, Grandison, Melendez, Hawkins at this point.
Nope, just Franklin and Podz that I am aware of. The Hutcherson Kool-aid is flowing hard
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C'mon guys. Ease up.
Not bad. Nice sig, whitey.
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Tempo really doesn't like it when Tempo says stupid shit.
Just as long as you represent my takes honestly. Which you seem to have a problem with.
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Nope, just Franklin and Podz that I am aware of. The Hutcherson Kool-aid is flowing hard
LOL. Have to admit I am interested to see how he translates from D3. If those were videos from a high school recruit who somebody said was Top 75 nobody would question it.
We would have him penciled in for 12 ppg as a frosh.
Franklin would be nice get.
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C'mon guys. Ease up.
This is fantastic
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The Hutcherson Kool-aid is flowing hard
https://twitter.com/KedPrince4/status/1376670513662156805?s=19
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https://twitter.com/KedPrince4/status/1376670513662156805?s=19
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/WrJ8x0niiblWEoo7hE/200.gif)
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Mother fucker can jump. Nice stroke, but he's gonna need a quicker release in the Big 10.
I know he's not being really guarded, but that release still looks slow to me.
It's not bad. It's a hair slow. He uses a rhythm dip which is really common and taught pretty much universally now.
It looks a little quicker in the game vids than in this workout video. The last jumper was quickest release.
But, honestly, he has best looking overall stroke off both the bounce and catch on team.
We will see.
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https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-basketball-Adam-Miller-enters-transfer-portal-163496620/?fbclid=IwAR0ACw9BY5ahnFUwGZrzvYSI4QbAZSblTqsjQIaLX2NXnGntCdhDNP2pshU
Wtf?!?!?! Ouch!
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Oof.
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https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-basketball-Adam-Miller-enters-transfer-portal-163496620/?fbclid=IwAR0ACw9BY5ahnFUwGZrzvYSI4QbAZSblTqsjQIaLX2NXnGntCdhDNP2pshU
Wtf?!?!?! Ouch!
JFC. He expected to play a star role?? He is fairly decent young player. I don't think he actually dribbled the ball until February.
He must not like Hulka. He will be a secondary player wherever he goes. Not ready for prime time.
He would have all the shots he wanted next year. Has to be a staff issue. Say goodbye to the Irvin Fire pipeline.
Team officially blowing up.
Hope Curbelo stays. He would have his pick of P5 schools.
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what on earth did Adam Miller expect?
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This was a tough year these athletes. I imagine many of them are seeking greener pastures not realizing that it was really tough for everyone everywhere this year. Miller surprises me, he got a probably more tick than he deserved but did improve as the year went on. Seemed like an “Illinois kid” all the way.
Only time he looked like a stud top 35 guy was in his first game.
Best of luck to him. He might find that his suitors may not be the ones for which he’s hoping.
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Miller needed 3 to 5 minutes more PT? Underachiever called him a "pussy"?
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Fuck.....sick of these helicopter parents. His tweets were so positive. I don't get it
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WTF? Afraid of who we're recruiting?
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This off-season is going to be a hell of a ride. Might be looking at a team we don’t recognize hardly anyone and that might end up being really good or really bad all depending on transfer market. We can certainly offer the keys.
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This off-season is going to be a hell of a ride. Might be looking at a team we don’t recognize hardly anyone and that might end up being really good or really bad all depending on transfer market. We can certainly offer the keys.
Get off of Tempo's fence!!!
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If I had to bet it would be on “bad” but Underachiever has earned a fair amount of trust from me.
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So what I’m hearing is it’s his mom that has the issue. She’s not happy about stuff. Idk what that stuff is though.
Here’s some insight....
https://twitter.com/markwal31038857/status/1377751272682631171?s=21
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Long simmering jealousy of Ayo. In fact never really wanted to play with him period, thought he might be likely gone. “The camp” was unhappy all year
The apparent last straw was the family not getting the amount of tickets for the tournament they felt they were entitled to. (Less than Ayo’s family)
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Long simmering jealousy of Ayo. In fact never really wanted to play with him period, thought he might be likely gone. “The camp” was unhappy all year
The apparent last straw was the family not getting the amount of tickets for the tournament they felt they were entitled to. (Less than Ayo’s family)
Yeah man, people “the camp” is petty as fuck. College basketball is a cesspool. Worse than this fucking place lol
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Yeah man, people “the camp” is petty as fuck. College basketball is a cesspool. Worse than this fucking place lol
Way worse
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Rumors of him possibly heading to Michigan....
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That would actually be ok with me because the way Juwan has been recruiting I feel like it would be the only thing stopping him from getting a better player with that scholarship.
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Is this the point in the movie where we say "we didn't want him anyway"?
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Making room for Franklin is all ;)
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I’d rather he stayed for sure. After he showed a little more versatility when Ayo was out I thought that his ceiling might be a Davion Mitchell. Could just be a physical appearance thing.
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I’d rather he stayed for sure. After he showed a little more versatility when Ayo was out I thought that his ceiling might be a Davion Mitchell. Could just be a physical appearance thing.
He really didn't contribute much other than a some threes here and there. Not a bad player. His defense picked up. He is not an NBA prospect. Not really very athletic, no length, below avg ball skills, low BB IQ, fairly decent shooter but nothing special. Could have developed over time.
The one and done thing is insane.
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I swear he double dribbled all 7 times he attacked the basket this past season.
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I personally wasn’t a fan of Miller whatsoever...but man...they better land some transfers
Hamlin, BBV, Giorgi all likely gone
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and then depression set in
(https://i.imgur.com/ZSXlcgV.gif)
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Miller seemed to have a lot of DaMonte in him. He picked up his defense and was hard nosed. He has a nice shot, but size is a problem. He doesn't look quick enough or athletic enough to defend guards, and he doesn't have the height to match up with a 6'6" wing.
He seemed to struggle early against good competition, but ended up having a decent year. He looked like a good team player.
Hope things work out for him.
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I personally wasn’t a fan of Miller whatsoever...but man...they better land some transfers
Hamlin, BBV, Giorgi all likely gone
Yeah I dont think hes a real good fit for Underwoods scheme, hes strong but not very long, pretty good shooter though and you need those... whatever
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Yes, this is the time where we say "we didn't want him anyway"
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lets start interviewing the parents
if they look like they could be a issue dont recruit the kid
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This off-season is going to be a hell of a ride. Might be looking at a team we don’t recognize hardly anyone and that might end up being really good or really bad all depending on transfer market. We can certainly offer the keys.
That sounds like a key to consistency.
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lets start interviewing the parents
if they look like they could be a issue dont recruit the kid
Hahaha. You ever spent much time around parents of any kid who think their kid is D1 player??
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Clearly not.
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lets start interviewing the parents
if they look like they could be a issue dont recruit the kid
may as well just give up on the hoops program then LOL
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That sounds like a key to consistency.
unfortunately EVERYONE has a ton of transfers this year... I'd be interested in seeing a B1g team by team breakdown but I don't have time to goggle such things
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unfortunately EVERYONE has a ton of transfers this year... I'd be interested in seeing a B1g team by team breakdown but I don't have time to goggle such things
97 = Big10Man is a match!
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unfortunately EVERYONE has a ton of transfers this year... I'd be interested in seeing a B1g team by team breakdown but I don't have time to goggle such things
It is crazy.
We are in same boat as others, and not sure we are seen as a destination school.
Will see what happens after dust clears.
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We should have plenty of minutes to offer. Door's open.
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We should have plenty of minutes to offer. Door's open.
That angle has never worked so good for us since 2005.
Maybe different now with faster style of play.
If we cannot capitalize on this past season a little bit -we never will.
It is not a good look when all of the players are leaving and others are backing out of probable commitments like this.
I am sure the negative recruiting is ugly and cutthroat right now.
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That angle has never worked so good for us since 2005.
Maybe different now with faster style of play.
If we cannot capitalize on this past season a little bit -we never will.
Yet somehow Underachiever built a 1 seed and overall #2 AP team by blowing up a languishing program and basically starting from scratch.
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Geez, could you give the Homer thing a rest.
He has had 4 years. It has been a revolving door of players.
We finally had a decent stretch last year at end. We sniffed the Top 25 again.
I actually liked that team better than this year. I give him credit.
Had a great month this year after looking pretty inconsistent and disinterested much of the year.
Crashed and burned completely in NCAA.
The entire team is leaving.
We have had two or three supposed recruiting locks back out since the Loyola dumpster fire.
We are combing the Florida everglades for transfer thug backups.
Right now we have 5 scholarship players and three have really never played.
I would say he gets a C at best now.
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Yet somehow Underachiever built a 1 seed and overall #2 AP team by blowing up a languishing program and basically starting from scratch.
yeah who would ever want to play for a guy like that, we're dooomed
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Yet somehow Underachiever built a 1 seed and overall #2 AP team by blowing up a languishing program and basically starting from scratch.
Yeah I have faith in this staff that they can do it again. Their strengths seem to be building teams and getting them to play together and at their strengths.
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I get the wanting to believe they will bounce back off the floor again, and keep what they are building going, but the past two weeks have been really bad.
Of course- we should still be playing.
Losing recruits happens, but word was they were in great shape and locked up and this staff seems to know how to play the game. Losing all three of Enoch, TyTy, and Burnett was not good.
Then- Losing two key players on this year's team coming off of a nice season who were guaranteed major starting roles on what was probably a team that could make the tourney again next year was very unexpected.
Maybe Giorgi changes his mind.
Hopefully we will bounce back. Lets hope for good news in acquiring some more players.
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Jordan Nesbitt is transferring from Memphis. I’m sure that name sounds familiar to all of you. I’m sure we are gonna be a major player in that.
TyTy isn’t out of the picture just yet it appears. They’ve just got real quiet.
Podz sounds like a lock and he’s announcing his decision to go somewhere on signing day (April 14 and 15)
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Jordan Nesbitt is transferring from Memphis. I’m sure that name sounds familiar to all of you. I’m sure we are gonna be a major player in that.
TyTy isn’t out of the picture just yet it appears. They’ve just got real quiet.
Podz sounds like a lock and he’s announcing his decision to go somewhere on signing day (April 14 and 15)
Wasn't TyTy looking at Alabama now??
The Podz kid might turn out to be good. Can shoot.
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Yet somehow Underachiever built a 1 seed and overall #2 AP team by blowing up a languishing program and basically starting from scratch.
I thought it was "money" that built this team. At least that was what ChicagoFan told us....
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I thought it was "money" that built this team. At least that was what ChicagoFan told us....
Money builds EVERY team in college basketball you fucking idiot!
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Well, I am going to guess that there were some incentives somewhere in the food chain along the way.
It's legal, and you need to pay to play.
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unfortunately EVERYONE has a ton of transfers this year... I'd be interested in seeing a B1g team by team breakdown but I don't have time to goggle such things
Sure, but when you’re losing freshmen that started every single game that’s not a good sign.
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It's a conspiracy. They're out to get you.
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Sure, but when you’re losing freshmen that started every single game that’s not a good sign.
Yeah, have to agree. They should have been babysitting him if it was well known there was tension.
I wondered about the culture all year with this group.
Last year there seemed to be a more blue collar team thing going.
Losing Giorgi is bigger loss. Maybe he will return.
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Still nobody gets it 🤣🤣🤣.
They’ve been pumping up Adam Miller around here locally since he was in grade school as the next nba’er. The minute he left Manual and went up North to get corrupted I knew he was done. He’s good, but he’s now let people get in his head and everyone has their hands out I’m sure.
With that said I’m sure minutes we’re an issue. The guy was a borderline 5 star/top 25 guy coming in, so when he’s barely getting minutes, then yeah I’d transfer to, but Adam is only concerned about Adam at this point and not the program. He just pulling an Ayo trying to get his dollars up that he may never get and will go somewhere where someone will let him do whatever and shoot 100 times a game. I thought he was a baller, but I was wrong. He’s just another Chicago/Irvin train wreck.
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And another thing is Underwood should be gone within the year unless he catches fire in the recruiting and transfer market over the next few months, but I suspect he’ll never live down the Loyola game. It’s not like he’s Bill Self and can just reload and survive it.
He not only managed to wake up the fan base this season to putting it to sleep early, then waking it up, then punching it in the nuts to finish it off. This was a lighting in a bottle moment that he managed to royally screw up. I don’t see how he survives the year to be honest.
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Oh, and another thing. We live in that “political” climate now as well.
Gimme, gimme, gimme or I’ll go somewhere else where they gimme.
That’s the culture we live in now. College basketball in its purest form is now dead. The Schools and coaches are no longer in control. The Millenial players with Lebron dreams are.
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But then of course there’s that off chance that the following happens.
Nobody is leaving or it’s just Ayo and Miller feels he won’t get his. I suspect there’s more here than just “Momma”.
If that Nil deal goes thru I dunno.
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But with Miller I don’t consider him part of the Peoria pipeline history.
He threw that out the window for Morgan Park and the And 1 travel pay to play circuit.
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But then of course there’s that off chance that the following happens.
Nobody is leaving or it’s just Ayo and Miller feels he won’t get his. I suspect there’s more here than just “Momma”.
If that Nil deal goes thru I dunno.
Well, things aren't going so well, that is for sure. The Miller thing is not about losing his ppg , it's about the narrative that could come out of this for Hulka and staff in recruiting Chicago, and recruiting overall whether that is fair or not. Other teams will use it and Miller camp is yapping is my guess. He had way better game than Ayo vs Loyola but played a lot less minutes and got less shots.
We better hope to hell Curbelo is happy and stays. He could go wherever he wants and he does have an NBA chance if he develops.
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I'm chuckling after reading Truth's string of posts on the previous page. He thinks today's recruits are Millennials.
And speaking of the generation gap, Mike Woodson seems really old. I'm watching his BTN interview on YouTube. He's not senile.
Juwan Howard is 48, which seems too old to learn a new trade. Woodson is 63 and doesn't appear to have a lot of energy. He says Indiana high school basketball is still run by the coaches. Maybe that's true. But it seems like a huge learning curve for a guy who'll be eligible for Medicare when his first recruiting class arrives.
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I'm chuckling after reading Truth's string of posts on the previous page. He thinks today's recruits are Millennials.
And speaking of the generation gap, Mike Woodson seems really old. I'm watching his BTN interview on YouTube. He's not senile.
Juwan Howard is 48, which seems too old to learn a new trade. Woodson is 63 and doesn't appear to have a lot of energy. He says Indiana high school basketball is still run by the coaches. Maybe that's true. But it seems like a huge learning curve for a guy who'll be eligible for Medicare when his first recruiting class arrives.
He has had a long career in pros. Kids might respect that as they all like to think they are going there. He convinced Jackson-Davis to stay who was borderline prospect right now.
Who knows. Maybe some of these other Indiana kids in the transfer portal rethink it.
https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/how-mike-woodson-convinced-trayce-jackson-davis-to-stay-at-indiana/ (https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/how-mike-woodson-convinced-trayce-jackson-davis-to-stay-at-indiana/)
I do think he is in for an education if he thinks HS coaches run HS basketball anywhere.
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And another thing is Underwood should be gone within the year unless he catches fire in the recruiting and transfer market over the next few months, but I suspect he’ll never live down the Loyola game. It’s not like he’s Bill Self and can just reload and survive it.
He not only managed to wake up the fan base this season to putting it to sleep early, then waking it up, then punching it in the nuts to finish it off. This was a lighting in a bottle moment that he managed to royally screw up. I don’t see how he survives the year to be honest.
Probably the first time I’ve ever read anything you’ve written and said to myself “yes, I agree;” but yes, I’ve always thought that Underwood needed to piggy back off this team and keep most of it together to keep things at a pretty high level. I don’t see Underwood being consistently successful if he’s scrambling often.
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I like that Tre Mitchell from Umass. Perfect pick and roll type of center. Can shoot the 3 ball and from all over the court. Pretty decent ball handling and moves for a big dude.
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I like that Tre Mitchell from Umass. Perfect pick and roll type of center. Can shoot the 3 ball and from all over the court. Pretty decent ball handling and moves for a big dude.
He would be great get.
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https://twitter.com/ogomarpayne/status/1378370297728954371?s=21
Omar Payne is an illini. It’s official.
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Well I guess you'll have a thug to counter Izzo's thugball now.
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Brad took him just for the MSU games
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Sven beat me to the punch
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Bring the Payne to Champaign
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Well he is an Illini now.
He is raw and fairly athletic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yLJ6GntCfE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yLJ6GntCfE)
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Apparently, Asswolf didn't bother to tell his teammates about transferring or answer phone calls from staff or the team.
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Meh
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Apparently, Asswolf didn't bother to tell his teammates about transferring or answer phone calls from staff or the team.
He will be a never was in terms of their NBA expectations bullshit.
Is a P5 starter and OK secondary contributor, or he can go lower D1 and be handed the keys to try and put up big numbers.
Not a lead guard. Not a great shooter yet.
Not a scoring guard as he has no breakdown handle to draw fouls, get his own, or finishing moves.
Really too small and not athletic.
He is kind of just a guy.
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do these kids have to sit out a year or no?
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do these kids have to sit out a year or no?
no
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He will be a never was in terms of their NBA expectations bullshit.
Is a P5 starter and OK secondary contributor, or he can go lower D1 and be handed the keys to try and put up big numbers.
Not a lead guard. Not a great shooter yet.
Not a scoring guard as he has no breakdown handle to draw fouls, get his own, or finishing moves.
Really too small and not athletic.
He is kind of just a guy.
I think he could have been a very good college player had he stuck around 4 years and worked hard on his game, an all conference type like Corey Bradford or something
whatever, sounds like he's a real dildo
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Meh
"Meh" on Jobu Payne committment, or Acewolf and Mommy jumping ship?
Or both? LOL
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I think he could have been a very good college player had he stuck around 4 years and worked hard on his game, an all conference type like Corey Bradford or something
whatever, sounds like he's a real dildo
I agree that as a senior he could be a decent more well rounded player.
Maybe 2nd team All BT type if he really worked hard and developed.
Bradford was pretty damn good. Doubt Miller achieves his level anywhere.
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Sven beat me to the punch
But you didn’t beat Payne to the punch.
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Well at least we don’t have to worry about Loyola anymore.
Moser just took off to Oklahoma 🤣🤣🤣.
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Looking like a couple rough years ahead, just like the last 8 years.
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Looking like a couple rough years ahead, just like the last 8 years.
Nah, we’ll be alright and in the tourney next year.
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Nah, we’ll be alright and in the tourney next year.
Need more firepower.
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Nah, we’ll be alright and in the tourney next year.
Who are you relying on in forming this analysis?
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Nah, we’ll be alright and in the tourney next year.
Based on what?
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MD picked up the decent Georgetown center and a good PG from Rhode Island.
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Jordan Nesbitt is transferring from Memphis. I’m sure that name sounds familiar to all of you. I’m sure we are gonna be a major player in that.
fluidity
"Penny was very different from the relationships I’ve built with most coaches,” Nesbitt said. He was real with me from the start. He didn’t tell me stuff like ‘come here and start right away.’ Instead, he just gave it to me real and told me, ‘I love you game and I feel like if you put in the work, you’re one and done. He just gave me the real.”
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/memphis-hardaway-lock-down-commitment-of-four-star-jordan-nesbitt
"... Hardaway and the staff loved Nesbitt as a recruit, but he made it nearly impossible for them to keep him moving forward"
https://247sports.com/college/memphis/Article/Memphis-freshman-Jordan-Nesbitt-enters-NCAA-transfer-portal--163489814/Amp/
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fluidity
"Penny was very different from the relationships I’ve built with most coaches,” Nesbitt said. He was real with me from the start. He didn’t tell me stuff like ‘come here and start right away.’ Instead, he just gave it to me real and told me, ‘I love you game and I feel like if you put in the work, you’re one and done. He just gave me the real.”
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/memphis-hardaway-lock-down-commitment-of-four-star-jordan-nesbitt
"... Hardaway and the staff loved Nesbitt as a recruit, but he made it nearly impossible for them to keep him moving forward"
https://247sports.com/college/memphis/Article/Memphis-freshman-Jordan-Nesbitt-enters-NCAA-transfer-portal--163489814/Amp/
So uh, give us the real.
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'He was real with me. Put in the work, you're one and done.'
3 games, under 12 minutes of floor time. 3 points and 3 turnovers.
3-5 more minutes per game mighta done it, or 3-5 more minutes of work.
(https://i.ibb.co/NWS35S1/Screenshot-20210404-063806.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dkgcFgb)
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...or 3-5 more minutes of work
I laughed.
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Can't remember if this was linked here or not, but here's Ol' Roy's take on the transfer portal.
https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Article/Roy-Williams-retirement-Walker-Kessler-transfer-North-Carolina-Tar-Heels-basketball--163471191/
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He’s not wrong. There’s an easy way to fix this. You choose your school you sit out a year. Now if your coach leaves on a moments notice, then you should get to leave and play immediately. There’s no give and take with the portal. The portal now belongs to the Millenial primadonnas.
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He’s not wrong. There’s an easy way to fix this. You choose your school you sit out a year. Now if your coach leaves on a moments notice, then you should get to leave and play immediately. There’s no give and take with the portal. The portal now belongs to the Millenial primadonnas.
We live in America. Let the players go to school where they can get in like every other student.
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Based upon what we are seeing this year with the transitional rule where you do not have to sit out - and that becoming the norm- it is going to be crazy.
I am not saying it is good or bad- just crazy.
It is going to be like the AAU system where kids switch teams constantly for any number of reasons.
Coaches who can recruit in the chaos, and get the yearly changed over group playing together quickly at a high level will be at a premium.
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Who are you relying on in forming this analysis?
The coaching staff. I have confidence in them to put together a tourney team for next year.
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Based on what?
Coaching staff being able to put it together.
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Based upon what we are seeing this year with the transitional rule where you do not have to sit out - and that becoming the norm- it is going to be crazy.
I am not saying it is good or bad- just crazy.
It is going to be like the AAU system where kids switch teams constantly for any number of reasons.
Coaches who can recruit in the chaos, and get the yearly changed over group playing together quickly at a high level will be at a premium.
its definitely going to make the product suck ass in the end though, fans will suffer
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Low thinkers
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fans will suffer
Why care about the kids when old 97 is the one suffering?
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its definitely going to make the product suck ass in the end though, fans will suffer
I think the ability to have a structured system relying on execution will be even more difficult moving forward- but that has been the case increasingly for awhile now with all of the transfers (40%), and early entries by the better players.
In a weird way- there will be more pressure on a program having X's and O's that can be implemented quickly and are effective.
The staff that can find a blend of both consistent recruiting and getting something put in that works will do well.
Its the state of the game and is mirroring AAU really.
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Just my guess...we should hear on Franklin today. My expectation is he ends up staying at IU. I’d bet on a full court press to get Frazier to come back assuming no Franklin or immediate other candidate pops up
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Just my guess...we should hear on Franklin today. My expectation is he ends up staying at IU. I’d bet on a full court press to get Frazier to come back assuming no Franklin or immediate other candidate pops up
I really think TJD staying in college will influence Franklin to stay at IU.
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Just my guess...we should hear on Franklin today. My expectation is he ends up staying at IU. I’d bet on a full court press to get Frazier to come back assuming no Franklin or immediate other candidate pops up
They got Jackson Davis to stay. Dunno what else they have coming in or staying.
We need a couple scorers.
Trent is 22 this year and sure as hell paid his dues to the Ayo era star system.
Trent could be a decent Euro player. Might want to start making money.
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They got Jackson Davis to stay. Dunno what else they have coming in or staying.
We need a couple scorers.
Trent is 22 this year and sure as hell paid his dues to the Ayo era star system.
Trent could be a decent Euro player. Might want to start making money.
He should be less selfish and worry more about 97's fandom when making a decision.
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Nesbitt to USL. Good fit.
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I think the ability to have a structured system relying on execution will be even more difficult moving forward- but that has been the case increasingly for awhile now with all of the transfers (40%), and early entries by the better players.
In a weird way- there will be more pressure on a program having X's and O's that can be implemented quickly and are effective.
The staff that can find a blend of both consistent recruiting and getting something put in that works will do well.
Its the state of the game and is mirroring AAU really.
at the end of the day sports are entertainment... You are correct in the days of a team sticking together for a long time and actually getting good at basketball and team play are totally long gone... you think the weber era of eye bleeding grinder ball was bad... hooo boy, just wait till every team plays like freshmen all year long since they are not only bad at fundimentals but have no clue what their teammates are doing... yaaay
throw in this NIL stuff and its going to be a fuckin disaster for the sport. Shame really as it was only a matter of time before it got totally tainted by greed and money, this will trickle down to just about every other sport in college and nothing other than money makers will be kept around.
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When play would get sloppy, Larry Stewart used to say something like 'It's sunday afternoon at the Y.'
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Hearing scUM, KU, and 'Pud as possible destinations for Adam Miller.
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Just got finished with Brad's season wrap up.
Didn't learn a got damn thing.
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Just got finished with Brad's season wrap up.
Didn't learn a got damn thing.
You didn't or he didn't?
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You didn't or he didn't?
;D ;D
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You didn't or he didn't?
hahaha
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;D ;D
That is hilarious
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There are some whispers that Adam Miller returning is at least a possibility
(Yay?)
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There are some whispers that Adam Miller returning is at least a possibility
(Yay?)
Yeah I heard that too. Supposedly cousin DJ Richardson has talked with him. Honestly let him fucking go. Don’t need shit/attitudes like that in the program. Couldn’t ask for much more than we gave him as a freshman. He comes back here for next year, it’s put up or shut up time. And if that’s the case, we’ll see about team chemistry.
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I suspect he was not expecting an ok bye good luck from Underwood. Maybe the grass was not as green as he thought?
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Best of luck to him. He might find that his suitors may not be the ones for which he’s hoping.
The grass is greener where you water it, Ace
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lol, no. If he wants to come back, you let him come back.
If you sell your soul to these assholes, guess what. You sold your soul.
Oh absolutely lol, I mixed in some of my own personal feelings in there. Of course the staff should let him. If I was in charge I might help him pack 😂
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Y'all must be Jesus people with all this forgiveness and turning the other cheek.
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I thought Miller became a contributing role player and played better defense as the year went on. Maybe he realizes now that he had a decent year for a Big10 freshman, 8ppg 3rb and starting, and other programs wouldn't offer what he had at Illinois.
If he wants to come back, I'd say "sure".
I thought he played as hard as anybody vs Loyola.
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Y'all must be Jesus people with all this forgiveness and turning the other cheek.
Men are more forgiving than women who never forget
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He's a punk, but we need bodies who can score a little bit. These guys don't have to be best friends.
It's Curbelo's team. He will go for 14/6.
Miller just needs to stfu and he will get his 12-13 shots a game and 13 ppg.
If Hutch is as good as he looks, he might surpass them both in scoring.
We need some guys at the 4 and 5.
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There are some whispers that Adam Miller returning is at least a possibility
(Yay?)
Is this where we say we wanted him to stay the whole time?
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He's a punk
How well do you know him?
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Is this where we say we wanted him to stay the whole time?
This is where we hope he never opens this site & doesn't read any posts.
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He gave himself a nickname when he got here. I am sure they read some of the boards.
Probably not this one. Lol
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Underwood should just send a highlight tape to every transfer/recruit, of Curbelo's passing, and label it "This is the guy who will be passing you the ball".
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How well do you know him?
I have formed my opinion based upon several message board poster subjective reports, observations from afar, and some actual data points, and his bad hair days.
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I am sure they read some of the boards.
Probably not this one. Lol
Two players have mentioned Loyalty to me. I haven't heard any other boards mentioned.
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We are kind of deep web territory.
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We are kind of deep web territory.
The 8chan per se....
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Or perhaps per se.
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Or perhaps per se.
Damn you’re a genius!
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Well chumped.
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The 8chan per se....
Have you seen the guys who run that site? Custard is like our Jim Watkins.
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Custard is like our Jim Watkins.
Well I do like Asian porn
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https://247sports.com/Player/AJ-Storr-46110087/
Ton of buzz around this guy coming on
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https://247sports.com/Player/AJ-Storr-46110087/
Ton of buzz around this guy coming on
He looks decent on vids. Strong. Could be a player.
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Christian Bishop talks seem to have escalated beyond the intro
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Christian Bishop talks seem to have escalated beyond the intro
Hmmm. 6'7" Center. Does not take threes. 6 Rebounds a game.
Have not watched him. He shot 68% from the field though.
Does he have a midrange game?
Looks mobile and shows some hands and ball skills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLk8T-j9oGI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLk8T-j9oGI)
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Frazier is going into a Puerto Rican professional league draft.
That should signal the end of his career
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Frazier is going into a Puerto Rican professional league draft.
That should signal the end of his career
Bummer. Best of luck, though. You were a great Illini!
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Can he come back if he doesn’t get a Puerto Rican agent?
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Joel Soriano 6-11 250 C Fordham / Stepanic 2018 / Dominican
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Frazier is going into a Puerto Rican professional league draft.
That should signal the end of his career
Good for him. Hope he makes some money. Kid played hard and was team first.
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Joel Soriano 6-11 250 C Fordham / Stepanic 2018 / Dominican
This guy was 6'9" 190 when he committed in 2018 summer.
He must eat like a mtherfcker.
A shitload of teams interested.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1379810102115508227 (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1379810102115508227)
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AJ Storr reportedly commits to Illinois.
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AJ Storr reportedly commits to Illinois.
i like the height they are now getting. Seen some of his tape and he looks pretty good. But can they at least get some 4 or 5 star players please. They just had back to back pretty good years and recruiting high star players have yet to come.
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i like the height they are now getting. Seen some of his tape and he looks pretty good. But can they at least get some 4 or 5 star players please. They just had back to back pretty good years and recruiting high star players have yet to come.
Takes 4 years to realize the recruiting bounty from a Round of 32 loss.
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i like the height they are now getting. Seen some of his tape and he looks pretty good. But can they at least get some 4 or 5 star players please. They just had back to back pretty good years and recruiting high star players have yet to come.
At this point we have not gotten much mileage out of being competitive again and even getting some national attention this year.
We are not getting any of the prized transfers yet, and our frosh class are guys who will take time I think.
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Storr, from Kankakee.
We stole him from notables such as IUPUI, Chicago State, Illini slayer Austin Peay and Iona.
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Storr, from Kankakee.
We stole him from notables such as IUPUI, Chicago State, Illini slayer Austin Peay and Iona.
A lot of people think he was on the verge of blowing up. I think it is better than it looks
Podz should be next I think
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A lot of people think he was on the verge of blowing up. I think it is better than it looks
Podz should be next I think
My comment was tongue in cheek. Anybody who wants to put on the Orange and Blue is fine with me. I'll hope for the best.There are lightly recruited players every year that become solid players.
Iona is in that list.
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Storr, from Kankakee.
We stole him from notables such as IUPUI, Chicago State, Illini slayer Austin Peay and Iona.
He has a good frame already and that is always a good thing.
Well, he had some high major offers in Ole Miss and Va Tech.
He can be either 2021 or 2022 class I guess.
He played with TyTy Washington. Maybe they are buddies.
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i like the height they are now getting. Seen some of his tape and he looks pretty good. But can they at least get some 4 or 5 star players please. They just had back to back pretty good years and recruiting high star players have yet to come.
staff doesn't care about stars, they want ballers
I do too, if a kid can ball and has good size and no primadonna attitude all the better
we need toughness and players that really fucking hate losing
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Hmmm. 6'7" Center. Does not take threes. 6 Rebounds a game.
Have not watched him. He shot 68% from the field though.
Does he have a midrange game?
Looks mobile and shows some hands and ball skills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLk8T-j9oGI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLk8T-j9oGI)
can he guard a ball screen?
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At this point we have not gotten much mileage out of being competitive again and even getting some national attention this year.
We are not getting any of the prized transfers yet, and our frosh class are guys who will take time I think.
Didn’t our last class have two top 50 kids including a Mr Basketball and borderline McDAA? This year has two rising wings and the roster is far from complete.
There’s plenty of danger in loading up too early in this unprecedented transfer market, I’d imagine they’re putting some thought and strategy into assembling the roster for the next season rather than just grabbing whoever they can. We don’t even know for sure who is leaving is who is staying.
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we need toughness and players that really fucking hate losing
You left out "togetherness"....
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Didn’t our last class have two top 50 kids including a Mr Basketball and borderline McDAA? This year has two rising wings and the roster is far from complete.
There’s plenty of danger in loading up too early in this unprecedented transfer market, I’d imagine they’re putting some thought and strategy into assembling the roster for the next season rather than just grabbing whoever they can. We don’t even know for sure who is leaving is who is staying.
Both Miller and Curbelo commited before the season started in 2019. Coleman also committed before the 2019 season and was #164 (I like this guy a lot FWIW).
Since we stopped sucking......
Bass, and Storr and Podz are all well outside Top 100. Goode and Melendez are barely inside Top 100.
All will likely take time, but certainly could be good players.
I would say the recruiting is underwhelming at best and we are not capitalizing on the past two years very well so far.
You think we are keeping spots open and don't want to fill up the roster too early???
At this point we technically do not have enough guys to practice.
Our starting lineup would be Curbello, Grandison, Hutch, Jobu, and Hawkins or one of the frosh.
They combined for 18 ppg this year.
I am assuming that changes.
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staff doesn't care about stars, they want ballers
I do too, if a kid can ball and has good size and no primadonna attitude all the better
we need toughness and players that really fucking hate losing
This staff has done well with high rated guys like Ayo, Kofi, Curbelo and even Miller. Give them credit as a lot of highly ranked 4 stars do not do so great.
Have not seen them develop anybody yet in the Top 100- 200 into a surprise high contributing P5 starter.
Alan Griffin was nice off the bench.
Feliz was nice player out of Juco.
DaMonte and Grandison became usable starters.
Giorgi might be best example of guy that was a surprise.
Maybe I am missing someone.
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This staff has done well with high rated guys like Ayo, Kofi, Curbelo and even Miller. Give them credit as a lot of highly ranked 4 stars do not do so great.
Have not seen them develop anybody yet in the Top 100- 200 into a surprise high contributing P5 starter.
Alan Griffin was nice off the bench.
Feliz was nice player out of Juco.
DaMonte and Grandison became usable starters.
Giorgi might be best example of guy that was a surprise.
Maybe I am missing someone.
Not a large enough sample size IMO, but there were quite a few kids that didn't work out for various reasons (most of which were probably attitude), which happens
remember Samba Kane? Tempo remembers
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Not a large enough sample size IMO, but there were quite a few kids that didn't work out for various reasons (most of which were probably attitude), which happens
remember Samba Kane? Tempo remembers
We have had a lot of guys cycle through here like most programs.
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We have had a lot of guys cycle through here like most programs.
He did have to do a lot of house cleaning to get the kids with shitty attitudes out. Groce was so bad... god
But yea college hoops these days just has a lot of turnover, period... kinda makes me yearn for the good old days lol
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He did have to do a lot of house cleaning to get the kids with shitty attitudes out. Groce was so bad... god
But yea college hoops these days just has a lot of turnover, period... kinda makes me yearn for the good old days lol
Well the character over characters thing is kind of BS.LOL. They all say that shit.
Griffin and Jones would have been in rotation this year or one of them might have started.
But yeah, we had quite a string of shit happening after 2005 under both Weber and Groce.
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Well the character over characters thing is kind of BS.LOL. They all say that shit.
Griffin and Jones would have been in rotation this year or one of them might have started.
But yeah, we had quite a string of shit happening after 2005 under both Weber and Groce.
Griffin was kind of a headcase, if you remember from his on the court shenanigans, as was Jones apparently (although being lazy and wanting to smoke weed was my priority when I was his age too so yeah...)
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Griffin was kind of a headcase, if you remember from his on the court shenanigans, as was Jones apparently (although being lazy and wanting to smoke weed was my priority when I was his age too so yeah...)
Yeah, I guess Griffin had some off court issues also.
I had heard that about Jones.
I guess my point is that we take them first and foremost if they are potentially good players and hope they take care of things reasonably responsibly just like any other program. We are not using some higher standard.
We just took Jobu Payne who beat the shit out of a kid.
This isn't recruiting for the church choir team.
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Yeah, I guess Griffin had some off court issues also.
I had heard that about Jones.
I guess my point is that we take them first and foremost if they are potentially good players and hope they take care of things reasonably responsibly just like any other program. We are not using some higher standard.
We just took Jobu Payne who beat the shit out of a kid.
This isn't recruiting for the church choir team.
Indeed, looking forward to paying back Michigan State with a taste of their own medicine haha
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Griffin was going to be kicked off the team from what I understand. There was an alleged very ugly incident that was brushed under the rug.
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The dick pics?
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https://twitter.com/nimariburnett/status/1380235681763446786?s=21
Burnett to Alabama
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To the dick pics. LOL.
And Burnett sort of, but we kind of knew he was gone.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a0/eb/e6/a0ebe64e15f85637ad1ad3283db13d31.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/craigwchoate/status/1380250203551367169?s=21
Giorgi going pro
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https://twitter.com/craigwchoate/status/1380250203551367169?s=21
Giorgi going pro
Ok, you have reached your limit today.
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Ledarrius / Ladarius Brewer 6-5 SG ETSU transferred from SEMO. Class of 2017 Meridian MS. Has one year +.
https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/ledarrius-brewer
Followed by Gentry, Piper, Sturdy ...
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Ok, you have reached your limit today.
Yeah I hear ya lol. We’re gonna have a completely different team next year.
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Sad to see Giorgi go
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https://twitter.com/craigwchoate/status/1380250203551367169?s=21
Giorgi going pro
Congrats and best wishes to Giorgi, who will probably thrive as a 2nd tier Euro player.
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Sad to see Giorgi go
Damn right.
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Yeah I hear ya lol. We’re gonna have a completely different team next year.
That sucks because I liked this year's team
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Sad to see Giorgi go
Seemed like great kid and did a nice job. Should make some decent money playing ball in Europe.
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Good luck Giorgi, in whatever you pursue. Thanks for what you brought to Illinois basketball. Be our ambassador in Europe please.
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Franklin to UVA. Wants to be part of a high powered, running offense.
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Another guard in the portal. Jalen Pickett from Siena.
https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jalen-pickett
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Good luck Giorgi, in whatever you pursue. Thanks for what you brought to Illinois basketball. Be our ambassador in Europe please.
What he said.
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Franklin to UVA. Wants to be part of a high powered, running offense.
Yeah, it is painful shit to watch.
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https://twitter.com/craigwchoate/status/1380250203551367169?s=21
Giorgi going pro
Great. So we’ve got Andre and some other guys. For now.
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Great. So we’ve got Andre and some other guys. For now.
Its fluid. LOL.
See page 1 of Hulka 2021-22 Roster Watch thread
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Great. So we’ve got Andre and some other guys. For now.
There are worst places to start from... ;D
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Nunge to Xavier. The Kofi situation is a big deterrent for any guys looking for assured roles. I would think you could safely scratch Robbins off the list
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Nunge to Xavier. The Kofi situation is a big deterrent for any guys looking for assured roles. I would think you could safely scratch Robbins off the list
Robbins is in demand. No ego kid. Will want to be the starting center for sure, however.
Kofi will need to get a lot of feedback from NBA guys and that is still no sure thing they even know what might happen.
I have seen his name from late first round to undrafted. I don't think his draft status changes by staying another year in college unless he shows a big expansion of his game which is hard to do at this level.
He needs to work on his game FT for a living and he is not afraid of the work.
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I'm totally ok if Kofi wants to return
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I'm totally ok if Kofi wants to return
Sure- We go from bubble team to Top 20.
Not sure why he would, but every kid and situation is different.
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Obviously the staff would prefer to know sooner than later as the possibility of him returning hinders their ability to replace him with an immediate difference maker for next season. Which I’m sure they’ve talked to him about.
Agree with LK that he probably isn’t going to all of a sudden improve his draft stock next year playing in college but he would be in line to achieve some pretty serious individual accolades next year playing on another potentially highly competitive team.
The worst that could happen is he drags it out and we have to take some scrubs because the good guys are afraid they’ll sit behind him. Then he decides to leave, effectively fucking next year’s team.
I’d have imagine the staff has had this conversation with him and that whatever he decides will be relatively swift and definitive.
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Obviously the staff would prefer to know sooner than later as the possibility of him returning hinders their ability to replace him with an immediate difference maker for next season. Which I’m sure they’ve talked to him about.
Agree with LK that he probably isn’t going to all of a sudden improve his draft stock next year playing in college but he would be in line to achieve some pretty serious individual accolades next year playing on another potentially highly competitive team.
The worst that could happen is he drags it out and we have to take some scrubs because the good guys are afraid they’ll sit behind him. Then he decides to leave, effectively fucking next year’s team.
I’d have imagine the staff has had this conversation with him and that whatever he decides will be relatively swift and definitive.
It's a tough balance. Support a young man in this process who has given his all and achieved well earned recognition, but we also need to consider the program overall.
I think we will not get a guy like Robbins or Mitchell, or Bishop unless he says he is gone for sure.
This is a tough situation and I think most think he goes if he gets any indication he will grab a roster spot from a GM.
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Adam Miller and Underoonie meeting today. My expectation is that Miller returns. With Frazier and Franklin closing the door, they aren’t in a great spot to get too picky. Underwood was pretty pissed off though from what I heard
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https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/joel-ntambwe-1.html
They might take this guy if they can get him into school. Sloppy transcripts I guess
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Sloppy transcripts I guess
I'm gonna just stop ya right there...
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Maybe he can be our Everyday Joe
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Maybe he can be our Everyday Joe
;D
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https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/joel-ntambwe-1.html
They might take this guy if they can get him into school. Sloppy transcripts I guess
Geez. His numbers say kind of a stiff.......
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/joel-ntambwe-1.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/joel-ntambwe-1.html)
WTF have we done with Hamlin and BBV for the last two years??
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We definitely needs some guards with dribbling skills.
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Geez. His numbers say kind of a stiff.......
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/joel-ntambwe-1.html (https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/joel-ntambwe-1.html)
WTF have we done with Hamlin and BBV for the last two years??
He can shoot. I’m ok with it
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He can shoot. I’m ok with it
I did see he can hit the three which is nice. Not much of a rebounder. I guess he would be depth and some size at the 4??
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I did see he can hit the three which is nice. Not much of a rebounder. I guess he would be depth and some size at the 4??
....or a starting 4, with Payne starting at 5 if Kofi leaves.
I bet this guy is better overall than Payne is assuming you get effort out of him
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....or a starting 4, with Payne starting at 5 if Kofi leaves.
I bet this guy is better overall than Payne is assuming you get effort out of him
Well, from an early video of Payne- he can't shoot worth a damn, but from a couple other vids he moves pretty well.
Payne looks to be suited to be a backup to me, or just a guy if he starts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yLJ6GntCfE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yLJ6GntCfE)
If this Ntambwe guy is our starting 4, that means we really are counting on Curbelo, Hutcherson, and Miller (assuming he ends up back in the fold) to score a shit ton.
I guess one of Grandison, Hawkins, Goode, Melendez, or Podz might surprise.
Its going to be By Committee at the 4 and 5 possibly. And that is assuming Hutcherson is as good as advertised and is usable starter at a wing.
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Baylor just dominated the tourney field starting a 6’5” guy at the 4 and 6’9” guy at the 5. Neither one can shoot and they averaged less than 10 ppg combined. They averaged about the same number of rebounds combined as Kofi averaged alone. The point is you don’t need a a dominant big just guys that can defend and rebound combined with really good guards and wings.
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Well, from an early video of Payne- he can't shoot worth a damn, but from a couple other vids he moves pretty well.
Payne looks to be suited to be a backup to me, or just a guy if he starts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yLJ6GntCfE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yLJ6GntCfE)
If this Ntambwe guy is our starting 4, that means we really are counting on Curbelo, Hutcherson, and Miller (assuming he ends up back in the fold) to score a shit ton.
I guess one of Grandison, Hawkins, Goode, Melendez, or Podz might surprise.
Its going to be By Committee at the 4 and 5 possibly. And that is assuming Hutcherson is as good as advertised and is usable starter at a wing.
Williams might be back
(Yay)
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Robbins is in demand. No ego kid. Will want to be the starting center for sure, however.
Kofi will need to get a lot of feedback from NBA guys and that is still no sure thing they even know what might happen.
I have seen his name from late first round to undrafted. I don't think his draft status changes by staying another year in college unless he shows a big expansion of his game which is hard to do at this level.
He needs to work on his game FT for a living and he is not afraid of the work.
He doesn’t really need to show a big expansion of his game to improve his draft stock. He just needs to show he can shoot.
He already has enough issues that can’t really be coached out (lack of lateral quickness and overall length) that will really hurt his draft stock. He’s an old school big man in a new school NBA. At least if he could shoot, teams would be more willing to take a chance on him.
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Baylor just dominated the tourney field starting a 6’5” guy at the 4 and 6’9” guy at the 5. Neither one can shoot and they averaged less than 10 ppg combined. They averaged about the same number of rebounds combined as Kofi averaged alone. The point is you don’t need a a dominant big just guys that can defend and rebound combined with really good guards and wings.
Thamba and Everyday Day John were combined as good a post defense as you would find in the country. And their little 6'5" forward Vital was a total beast big body uber athlete.
Oh, and their three guards were arguably the best trio in the country defensively and combined for 47 ppg.
Making any parallel to us bringing in a couple backups to combine with Curbelo and whoever we patch together is some funny shit.
Even if Miller comes back, we have a center and 4 and maybe a 3 by throwing spaghetti at the wall and are a bubble team and a work in progress all year at best.
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Making any parallel to us bringing in a couple backups to combine with Curbelo and whoever we patch together is some funny shit.
That’s not at all what I’m doing.
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He doesn’t really need to show a big expansion of his game to improve his draft stock. He just needs to show he can shoot.
He already has enough issues that can’t really be coached out (lack of lateral quickness and overall length) that will really hurt his draft stock. He’s an old school big man in a new school NBA. At least if he could shoot, teams would be more willing to take a chance on him.
I tend to agree, but I doubt we want to be his training ground for taking 5 jumpers a game to see if he can develop a face up game.
The 5 assists total for the year is almost hard to believe.
The stuff he did well, he did very well.
The stuff he can't do well he is really bad at and needs a full time job as a pro to develop. The guy is 22 years old this year. His clock is ticking. He gone IMO.
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That’s not at all what I’m doing.
I agree with your theoretical roster models for modern game, but those guys were fucking good to begin with.
We have to get some pieces in here to do what you want.
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Here’s a wild factoid: Mark Vital committed to Baylor in 2013.
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Here’s a wild factoid: Mark Vital committed to Baylor in 2013.
turned 24 November 7, 2020
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That's nothing. Trice is 25 in three weeks.
Lol 😆
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You guys forget about Tracy Abrams? His 15 years here were amazing.
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Adam Miller and Underoonie meeting today. My expectation is that Miller returns. With Frazier and Franklin closing the door, they aren’t in a great spot to get too picky. Underwood was pretty pissed off though from what I heard
About?
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The 5 assists total for the year is almost hard to believe.
Wait. What?
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Baylor just dominated the tourney field starting a 6’5” guy at the 4 and 6’9” guy at the 5. Neither one can shoot and they averaged less than 10 ppg combined. They averaged about the same number of rebounds combined as Kofi averaged alone. The point is you don’t need a a dominant big just guys that can defend and rebound combined with really good guards and wings.
Have checked out what their guards averaged in points? And their pretty much all over 40 % from the 3 point line. Even 2 or 3 bench guys averaged pretty close or barely over 40 % from the 3 ball line. And they could all defend as well. That's a lot of pretty good players you need. I agree though the center position is a spot you can live without if the other pieces are strong elsewhere.
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I tend to agree, but I doubt we want to be his training ground for taking 5 jumpers a game to see if he can develop a face up game.
The 5 assists total for the year is almost hard to believe.
The stuff he did well, he did very well.
The stuff he can't do well he is really bad at and needs a full time job as a pro to develop. The guy is 22 years old this year. His clock is ticking. He gone IMO.
I’d rather have Kofi trying to develop a face up game than whoever we would have to replace him.
He would probably develop better as a pro, but he shouldn’t leave unless he’s sure someone is going to draft him.
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Would love to have him. Makes us an instant Top 20 team.
This stuff is not as cut and dried as it used to be. They can sign you and assign you to G league now I think. That is his best option for developing short of being on an NBA roster. He needs to play and practice against grown men.
Of course he could make more if he went overseas, but that is another path.
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As much as Kofi has improved, he hasn't shown a whole lot of touch in his shot. I hate to be critical as much as its been said that he's a hard worker and willing to learn, but sometimes he seems to struggle with a shot much farther away than a dunk.
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As much as Kofi has improved, he hasn't shown a whole lot of touch in his shot. I hate to be critical as much as its been said that he's a hard worker and willing to learn, but sometimes he seems to struggle with a shot much farther away than a dunk.
His stroke seemed better last year at the FT line.
It was really inconsistent this year in terms of form, release, arc.
He just needs a lot of focused work.
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As much as Kofi has improved, he hasn't shown a whole lot of touch in his shot. I hate to be critical as much as its been said that he's a hard worker and willing to learn, but sometimes he seems to struggle with a shot much farther away than a dunk.
I've seen him launch two mid-range jumpers in games. He made both.
I've seen him launch practice threes at Ubben. He connects on a reasonable percentage.
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Needs to learn how to pass. He'll have 4 guys guarding him and he can't pass the ball back out?
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I've seen him launch two mid-range jumpers in games. He made both.
I've seen him launch practice threes at Ubben. He connects on a reasonable percentage.
Last year it looked like he had the basics to be able to build that into his game.
They went full tilt with rolls to the basket and post ups with him this year.
He also had 20 assists last year. He had 5 this year.
He will get a chance somewhere down the road one would think.
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JCL in the transfer portal. About to be on his 4th school in 7 years.
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JCL in the transfer portal. About to be on his 4th school in 7 years.
Would be hilarious if we went after him.
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As much as Kofi has improved, he hasn't shown a whole lot of touch in his shot. I hate to be critical as much as its been said that he's a hard worker and willing to learn, but sometimes he seems to struggle with a shot much farther away than a dunk.
I agree, he still is awkward to an extent around the hoop, hands are rock hard most of the time, and passing is non existant. I would imagine that he will hear this and more upon another NBA eval. That said, this may end up being good for us.
Kofi
Belo
Omar
Ty-Ty?
Grandison/Hutcherson?
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JCL in the transfer portal. About to be on his 4th school in 7 years.
They really should have cut off guys like him from getting an extra year in college. I don't understand why he's not just going pro.
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Alfonso Plummer buzz?
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JCL in the transfer portal. About to be on his 4th school in 7 years.
Wow! Has he started shaving yet?
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Alfonso Plummer buzz?
Yeah, they are talking to him. Big list of suitors though
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Podz likely.
Family apparently did a self visit today. No contact with players or coaches.
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Podz likely.
Family apparently did a self visit today. No contact with players or coaches.
So they were on campus? Or they talked to Bill Self?
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If it helps ..........
New gof coach, Ben Johnson, has corralled 4 transfers. One each from George Washington, New Hampshire, Lafayette and William and Mary. 2 guards and 2 wings who can score, rebound, play defense and the guy from William and Mary likes to fish for bass.
Tn was looking at the GWU guy and Wisco at the bass fisherman from Fond du Lac.
I think the gofs may now have enough players to practice 5 on 5.
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New gof coach, Ben Johnson, has corralled 4 transfers.
People continually misunderestimate the likelihood that others will comprehend their abbreviations, acronyms, nicknames, neologisms, etc.
In this case, readers will wonder what the fuck happened to Mike Small.
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I had the exact same thought
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I had the exact same thought
Yeah, I had to read it twice, but I had gof on the brain after watching Masters all weekend. LOL.
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If it helps ..........
New gof coach, Ben Johnson, has corralled 4 transfers. One each from George Washington, New Hampshire, Lafayette and William and Mary. 2 guards and 2 wings who can score, rebound, play defense and the guy from William and Mary likes to fish for bass.
Tn was looking at the GWU guy and Wisco at the bass fisherman from Fond du Lac.
I think the gofs may now have enough players to practice 5 on 5.
Good luck competing in the B1G with that.
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Yeah, I had to read it twice, but I had gof on the brain after watching Masters all weekend. LOL.
I've been calling them the gofs for years.
Speaking of the Masters. Today's fishwrap says the 15th was a key hole .
KEY HOLE No. 15, 530-yard par-5 : Matsuyama was cruising until he hit 4-iron over the green and into the water here, posting a bogey that carved out a modicum of drama at the finish. Stroke average for the field was 4.72.
How about the 16th ? Schauffele had closed to within 2. Puts his tee shot in the water, then hits hits his 3rd shot after the penalty. What's the commentary after his 3rd ?
"Oh dear" 😁
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I've been calling them the gofs for years.
Speaking of the Masters. Today's fishwrap says the 15th was a key hole .
KEY HOLE No. 15, 530-yard par-5 : Matsuyama was cruising until he hit 4-iron over the green and into the water here, posting a bogey that carved out a modicum of drama at the finish. Stroke average for the field was 4.72.
How about the 16th ? Schauffele had closed to within 2. Puts his tee shot in the water, then hits hits his 3rd shot after the penalty. What's the commentary after his 3rd ?
"Oh dear" 😁
Nik Faldo is a kind of a smug dick.
The Masters is full of pompous Judge Smails Bushwood vibe.
Its a helluva course though.
Yeah, Schauffele had a chance and fell apart.
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Nik Faldo is a kind of a smug dick.
The Masters is full of pompous Judge Smails Bushwood vibe.
Its a helluva course though.
Yeah, Schauffele had a chance and fell apart.
He is, but that wasn't him commenting was it ?
I just the the "Oh dear" was hilarious.
And Schauffele's 16th made things a lot easier for Matsuyama.
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He is, but that wasn't him commenting was it ?
I just the the "Oh dear" was hilarious.
And Schauffele's 16th made things a lot easier for Matsuyama.
I think Verne Lundquist had the 16th along with Dottie. Verne is 80 years old now.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-1uNB-aufF4Qo2hvIODJ-Lmlb_-UDTq-T0y4BUwzGPfIBcM1Qx9LWqqoj03Zoq1iaPso&usqp=CAU)
These golf telecasts all have cute nicknames and sayings out of Madmen as to preserve a time gone by and The Masters tries very hard to remain timeless.
They kept showing the black caddie from when course was built who knew how the greens grain rolled from the creek. Like Bagger Vance.
Every women in the 50s and 60s named Dorothy was nicknamed Dottie and was a gal Friday for the boys.
I would love to see the course one day.
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Speaking of recruiting, lack of crystal balls and current future casts for Brandin Podziemski seems odd.
That Minny big to Vanderbilt.
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I've been calling them the gofs for years.
Yeah, so the only question now is whether you want anyone else to understand what the fuck you're talking about.
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Yeah, so the only question now is whether you want anyone else to understand what the fuck you're talking about.
I knew what he was talking about because he has used that term for the Gofers for years.
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Yeah, so the only question now is whether you want anyone else to understand what the fuck you're talking about.
can't say I had a very hard time with his post, sorry your old age is dulling your cognitive skills
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Yeah, so the only question now is whether you want anyone else to understand what the fuck you're talking about.
took me a second, but most things do these days.
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I knew what he was talking about because he has used that term for the Gofers for years.
Ya got that right. Gofs and xxxx for years.
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I think Verne Lundquist had the 16th along with Dottie. Verne is 80 years old now.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-1uNB-aufF4Qo2hvIODJ-Lmlb_-UDTq-T0y4BUwzGPfIBcM1Qx9LWqqoj03Zoq1iaPso&usqp=CAU)
These golf telecasts all have cute nicknames and sayings out of Madmen as to preserve a time gone by and The Masters tries very hard to remain timeless.
They kept showing the black caddie from when course was built who knew how the greens grain rolled from the creek. Like Bagger Vance.
Every women in the 50s and 60s named Dorothy was nicknamed Dottie and was a gal Friday for the boys.
I would love to see the course one day.
A friend went a few years ago. He says tv does not do justice to the elevation changes.
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I knew what he was talking about because he has used that term for the Gofers for years.
That's an entirely different word.
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https://twitter.com/notbigten/status/1381700266400092172?s=21
We’ll know soon. Looks promising as his family just came and toured campus unofficially with him.
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https://twitter.com/brandinpodziem2/status/1382017537064460288?s=21
Huge pickup!
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UK and Baylor offered Ty Ty
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UK and Baylor offered Ty Ty
Not getting this dude
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Illinois was never getting Ty Ty to begin with.
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The situations where Miller, and now Frazier, are now in flux will be a real obstacle for getting any top level ready to go guard transfers or HS recruits.
And no high level center will come with Kofi undeclared.
Might attract a stretch 4, but with Grandison and DMW coming back and the frosh who can play 3/4 that is doubtful also.
I am getting the sense that until/unless Kofi declares, the roster is starting to look set assuming Miller and Frazier come back.
13 or so probables without Kofi.
https://illinihq2.com/index.php/topic,265.0.html (https://illinihq2.com/index.php/topic,265.0.html)
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https://twitter.com/brandinpodziem2/status/1382017537064460288?s=21
Huge pickup!
Hutcherson (6-6), Grandison (6-6), Goode (6-7), Podziemski (6-6)& Melendez (6-7), sure looks like BU and staff are building some Flying ILLINI size once again....6'10" Hawk, 6'9" Payne...we will be running up and down with Belo pushing the ball....this is going to be fun!!
C'mon back Kofi.
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Transfer Portal 5* from Gonzaga...
Would love to see the staff inquire about landing this kid/man...Oumar Ballo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IauQKHii2WE
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Will be interesting to see what happens with Alfonso Plummer. Long talk with Underwood last night and then sent out a suggestive tweet after. They likely can’t take all of him Frazier and Miller, but I’m not sure these Miller talks are going so hot.
Edit...I see he’s announcing this weekend after the long talk with Underoonie last night. Perhaps the decision has been made
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Will be interesting to see what happens with Alfonso Plummer. Long talk with Underwood last night and then sent out a suggestive tweet after. They likely can’t take all of him Frazier and Miller, but I’m not sure these Miller talks are going so hot.
Edit...I see he’s announcing this weekend after the long talk with Underoonie last night. Perhaps the decision has been made
I think if he wants to come- we take him. Kid made 64 threes in 25 games and shot 38% and has range.
The Miller thing is not good. Should not be this complicated.
Frazier info is odd, although he should get a lot of leeway due to his commitment to the program for 4 years.
In the end- we are getting into first come first serve territory.
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People continually misunderestimate the likelihood that others will comprehend their abbreviations, acronyms, nicknames, neologisms, etc.
In this case, readers will wonder what the fuck happened to Mike Small.
Yes, I am wondering what happened to Mike Small.
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I think if he wants to come- we take him. Kid made 64 threes in 25 games and shot 38% and has range.
The Miller thing is not good. Should not be this complicated.
Frazier info is odd, although he should get a lot of leeway due to his commitment to the program for 4 years.
In the end- we are getting into first come first serve territory.
Are we all sure or are any of us sure that ALL of the other persons on the team will all be back? Haven't seen any info inregards to say Hamlin/BBV/Lieb or anyone else....but it would sure seem like a Crean will be occurring at some point based on our continued talks/recruiting/reaching out to others that are available?
So far, Ayo/Frazier/Miller gone for sure? Kofi possibly, Payne/Goode/RJ/Pods all committed...am I missing something here as we are still trying for more?
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Are we all sure or are any of us sure that ALL of the other persons on the team will all be back? Haven't seen any info inregards to say Hamlin/BBV/Lieb or anyone else....but it would sure seem like a Crean will be occurring at some point based on our continued talks/recruiting/reaching out to others that are available?
So far, Ayo/Frazier/Miller gone for sure? Kofi possibly, Payne/Goode/RJ/Pods all committed...am I missing something here as we are still trying for more?
https://illinihq2.com/index.php/topic,265.0.html
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I imagine it’ll all work itself out
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Brad says Giorgi is definitely gone.
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https://illinihq2.com/index.php/topic,265.0.html
Thank you, but my question still is valid, unless we have definate inside information, it would seem something else will happen?
My guess is BBV and or Hamlin.
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Brad says Giorgi is definitely gone.
I actually missed Giorgi all togther..thank you.
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Thank you, but my question still is valid, unless we have definate inside information, it would seem something else will happen?
My guess is BBV and or Hamlin.
Well, they have 13 rides unless there is some Covid waiver to increase that.
Yes, if Trey Mitchell wants to come and play the 4, with Kofi staying anothe year for some unknown reason at the 5, I am sure they will make room and counsel some kids out.
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Here’s a link to the current scholarship situation.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17bU0wNmoZ2ybG9Zi23D6w2sWWeT4e2v6icCxNJQEIxQ/htmlview
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Here’s a link to the current scholarship situation.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17bU0wNmoZ2ybG9Zi23D6w2sWWeT4e2v6icCxNJQEIxQ/htmlview
Thank you, we will be stacked at guard positions and with alot of length the next 3-5 years. 6-5, 6-6, 6-7 all over the place, with Belo the sparkplug pushing the ball.
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RJ and OP together...
https://twitter.com/CPCAhoops/status/1379614235655876608/photo/1
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😂 wtf
https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1382738753823731717?s=21
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Word is that Miller might be going to LSU if he doesn’t come back here.
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😂 wtf
https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1382738753823731717?s=21
Uncle is a Samford assistant.
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Word is that Miller might be going to LSU if he doesn’t come back here.
Not sure about LSU but I think Miller is out. Think that’s for the best
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What are the other boards saying about Miller?
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If we have to make some deal with his mother to showcase her 6’2” small forward son who at this point is basically a 3 and D guy until proven otherwise then yeah let’s cut bait
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If we have to make some deal with his mother to showcase her 6’2” small forward son who at this point is basically a 3 and D guy until proven otherwise then yeah let’s cut bait
He really isn't outstanding at either and is way too small to guard a wing in pros.
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I know Kofi has some suspect people around him and sounds like they are driving. Hopefully the staff can...find a better option to help both parties
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I know Kofi has some suspect people around him and sounds like they are driving. Hopefully the staff can...find a better option to help both parties
What do u mean find a better option to help both parties out.... 🤔 🤨 🧐
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I know Kofi has some suspect people around him and sounds like they are driving. Hopefully the staff can...find a better option to help both parties
Sounds like he has some people wanting to be his agent that are not the best advocates??
He will likely have a little bit of a challenging path for an NBA roster spot, but it is certainly very possible. Has to find the right situation.
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He really isn't outstanding at either and is way too small to guard a wing in pros.
Miller has always struck me has being that 1 kid growing up that was way ahead of all of his peers athletically...now at 6'2 without PG skills, he is lumped into a large group. I like that he chose the ILLINI and kept the Chicago/Peoria thing going, but in reality he has been surpassed by many ranked below him already.
He does not have an NBA game, he will NEVER be a NBA PG, not trying to disparage the kid, just what I think is the case presently. His mom needs to get a grip if she thinks he will get a NBA paycheck for her.
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Sounds like he has some people wanting to be his agent that are not the best advocates??
He will likely have a little bit of a challenging path for an NBA roster spot, but it is certainly very possible. Has to find the right situation.
He’s ready to make some money
There’s unapproved agents that operate under a “pay-it-forward”...they will start paying him right away under the assumption he pays back later once he’s in the league. Bad deal all around, basically like getting a loan based on a job you don’t have. And his NBA stock is not good
I think the staff is trying to get with “approved” agents who will have his best interest in mind. The NIL thing is not going well and that is not helping at all as far as him staying. I had a feeling once he went home the sharks would circle but I think they didn’t expect it to be this bad.
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Seems UCLA gets Myles johnson.
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Seems UCLA gets Myles johnson.
Nice player.
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Nice player.
If JJ comes back for UCLA, with Johnson, they will more than likely be Top 10 pre-ranked. Good turn around by Cronin.
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If JJ comes back for UCLA, with Johnson, they will more than likely be Top 10 pre-ranked. Good turn around by Cronin.
CBS has them #1 already.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-ohio-state-moves-into-top-five-after-kyle-young-decides-to-return-next-season/
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Not sure why Juzang would stay.
Played himself into 1st round.
Take him over Ayo all day.
He can get his own shot.
Can shoot the three.
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Because money isn't everything?
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Because money isn't everything?
Sure. But I assume he wants to play in NBA. They will take him now.
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Plummer commits to IL
https://twitter.com/AlfonsoPlummer9/status/1383458574341345291?s=19
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Plummer commits to IL
https://twitter.com/AlfonsoPlummer9/status/1383458574341345291?s=19
Cool, we desperately need more 3 point shooting
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Good. We really need true 3 point shooters.
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1 assist per game for a 6'1 guard who played 28 minutes per game might be a little concerning.
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1 assist per game for a 6'1 guard who played 28 minutes per game might be a little concerning.
He is not paid to pass the ball.
Will probably take 8 or 9 threes a game for us.
I hope he uses a few of these moves at Ann Arbor in front of your bench.
https://twitter.com/AlfonsoPlummer9/status/1275470205926457346?s=19
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Eli will lock him down.
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CBS has them #1 already.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-ohio-state-moves-into-top-five-after-kyle-young-decides-to-return-next-season/
Hadn't seen this thank you.
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Big Tim tweeting smack about Uberwood lying to Miller's mom.
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Big Tim tweeting smack about Uberwood lying to Miller's mom.
Who is Big Tim???
LOL.
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Big Tim tweeting smack about Uberwood lying to Miller's mom.
Nonsense. Miller’s mother can fuck off
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Who is Big Tim???
LOL.
Supposedly IHSA Ref, UK fan.
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high 4 star McD AA Nolan Hickman decommitted from UK
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high 4 star McD AA Nolan Hickman decommitted from UK
Kid is pretty highly regarded PG.
I guess he was tight with the asst coach who left to Central Michigan.
Also they are trying to get TyTy or Carr per this article.
He actually had never set foot on campus. Weird.
https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-recruiting/article251071839.html (https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-recruiting/article251071839.html)
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No worries. They might get Adam Miller.
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Emoni Bates decommits from Michigan State
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/4895905001
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Emoni Bates decommits from Michigan State
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/4895905001
He will go Pro imo, when you are considered widely to be the best regardless of class....why bother with college, start cashing checks.
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Emoni Bates decommits from Michigan State
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/4895905001
Guess he doesnt want to play for an angry corrupt midget
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1388578880605335556?s=19
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Zzz zzz.
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Underoonie has been having chats with Chester Frazier apparently
Has some connections but..mehhhh....
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Underoonie has been having chats with Chester Frazier apparently
Has some connections but..mehhhh....
Yeah, not a fan. We can and should be able to do much better than this.
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1388578880605335556?s=19
Addition by subtraction I say! Never did like the kid. Even in the state tournament a few years ago he came off as total punk.
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Underoonie has been having chats with Chester Frazier apparently
Has some connections but..mehhhh....
I loved Chet's heart as a player but...no. At best he'd be 4th on the list of former players I'd want to hire as an assistant. That option 1 is at a non-P5 school and option 2 just lateralled to a football school doesn't help.
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LSU. Maybe he got a strong ass offer.
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Underoonie has been having chats with Chester Frazier apparently
Has some connections but..mehhhh....
Wtf.
No.
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How about resurrecting Dalonte Hill?
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Underoonie has been having chats with Chester Frazier apparently
Has some connections but..mehhhh....
Is Bill Cole available too?
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LSU. Maybe he got a strong ass offer.
Lol. Perfect for Acepuppy. He will do his one year there chucking up shots, they don't play any D, and maybe puts up enough numbers to go try and go pro. Wade seems to have evaded getting fired and LSU has no ban yet.
Can take his mommy/agent with him to Europe next year.
Here is a little factoid - Acepuppy shot 31% from three when you take out the practice game we played vs NC A & T.
He is pretty much just a guy.
We came out way ahead with Plummer.
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Reggie Bass note:
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Bill-Hensley-Run-N-Slam-Saturday-Jalen-Washington-leads-a-Meanstreets-trio-and-other-standouts-164946684/
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Yeah, not a fan. We can and should be able to do much better than this.
I don’t know the interest but Roger Powell has been contacted to.
Chin was with Underoonie yesterday...no announcement he’s gone, no announcement he’s staying.
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Reggie Bass note:
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Bill-Hensley-Run-N-Slam-Saturday-Jalen-Washington-leads-a-Meanstreets-trio-and-other-standouts-164946684/
Bass was an OA get.
Hopefully he sticks.
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I don’t know the interest but Roger Powell has been contacted to.
Chin was with Underoonie yesterday...no announcement he’s gone, no announcement he’s staying.
Powell certainly has good experience. Not sure how he would deal with the slimy side of things, or if we would now be going full 3 and 4 year guys and transfers.
The Chin process is pretty extended.
Who knows.
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I don’t know the interest but Roger Powell has been contacted to.
Chin was with Underoonie yesterday...no announcement he’s gone, no announcement he’s staying.
I’m on board with Powell.
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Chin had one job. He got it done.
I think it's a good step up the ladder for him to go to a blue blood.
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Chin had one job. He got it done.
I think it's a good step up the ladder for him to go to a blue blood.
To help get Ayo, or Miller?
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Ayo.
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If Chin isn’t in Lexington yet, there’s def a reason why. Could be waiting on possible Gentry departure, could be thinking it over, something
Id sure love to know what this Gentry guy does that’s so bad it might want someone to take another fucking job
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I’m on board with Powell.
He’s really good at what he does. One might argue Illinois would now be a step down though. I don’t know what he gets paid there either, highly doubt it’s the incredibly absurd 700k number that has been attached to Chin
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He’s really good at what he does. One might argue Illinois would now be a step down though. I don’t know what he gets paid there either, highly doubt it’s the incredibly absurd 700k number that has been attached to Chin
Yeah I’d see it as a step down if I were him as far as programs, but a step up in $ and being at your alma mater might convince him.
And I don’t know if I’d wanna pay Chin $700k. It isn’t my money though lol
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Scouting and game-planning for the West Coast Catholics is unlikely to hone one's chops for either skill.
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And I don’t know if I’d wanna pay Chin $700k. It isn’t my money though lol
I don’t really think they did either once Orlando left.
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Chin's résumé is landing Ayo and coordinating videos for Tim Miles. He really shouldn't be in the same conversation as O.
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Easily replaceable.
Orlando unfortunately is not.
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So there’s something up with Tre Mitchell. Not sure exactly what, but there’s growing chatter Illinois is on the cusp of getting him. If that’s true, there’s a reason
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So there’s something up with Tre Mitchell. Not sure exactly what, but there’s growing chatter Illinois is on the cusp of getting him. If that’s true, there’s a reason
LOL. Doesn't his mom have a BF or something who is part of the deal??
We get him to play the 4 and get Kofi back and we are Top 5 team.
Hell- we get just Mitchell we are Top 15.
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LOL. Doesn't his mom have a BF or something who is part of the deal??
We get him to play the 4 and get Kofi back and we are Top 5 team.
Hell- we get just Mitchell we are Top 15.
Bergeron is the assistant coach looking for gig tied to his mother yes
....there’s a few ways to skin a cat
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Bergeron is the assistant coach looking for gig tied to his mother yes
....there’s a few ways to skin a cat
So much for the Wisconsin coach 'em up over 4 years model. LOL.
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So much for the Wisconsin coach 'em up over 4 years model. LOL.
hahaha ;D
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1389290237436866563?s=19
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1389290237436866563?s=19
Does Jaylon Tate have any eligibility left?
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https://twitter.com/illinihq/status/1390001055304458242?s=21
Unfortunately I think most of the big names will be scooped up by Michigan and Kentucky.
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What will we do now that we lost a player that sacrificed so much for us last year....hope we have a player that is better at his position playing for us again....we do in Belo...
https://www.wafb.com/2021/05/11/preview-lsu-head-coach-will-wade-talks-about-new-recruits-more-during-exclusive-interview/
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Maybe our first Frazier recruit...
https://www.gobblercountry.com/2021/5/10/22429952/virginia-tech-basketball-7-footer-michael-durr-backs-off-pledge-to-the-hokies-acc-basketball
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Maybe our first Frazier recruit...
https://www.gobblercountry.com/2021/5/10/22429952/virginia-tech-basketball-7-footer-michael-durr-backs-off-pledge-to-the-hokies-acc-basketball
My granddaughter attends VA Tech, so I sorta follow them. This was an interesting tidbit. I can't see him coming if Kofi returns, but...?
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My granddaughter attends VA Tech, so I sorta follow them. This was an interesting tidbit. I can't see him coming if Kofi returns, but...?
I agree I only see him coming if Kofi leaves, unless they could sell him on more minutes split 4-5 slot. He seems like he gets up the floor pretty well, his offensive moves seem limited though, but then again most 7' seem that way because of the size.
I really think Kofi could come back, he needs to develop more of an offensive game and work on his hands and passing as well....we will see the $$$$ anywhere might be to much.
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Brief but good article in the news gazette about Frazier and his recruiting in the past. We may be fine with him on the trail, I still wouldn't mind Irvin in an unofficial capacity as well though.
I don't think we get Huss, so....and VT is soon to lose their other asst coach as he may be headed to Florida. We aren't the only ones looking for a solid get.
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durr
lol reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuTPGMDAvQs
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https://twitter.com/storr_aj/status/1392920352800473090?s=21
And so it begins.....
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Yeah.
Send me the people who say recruiting won't suffer a major setback. I have bridges to sell.
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We need to get a staff in place.
Soon.
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Yeah.
Send me the people who say recruiting won't suffer a major setback. I have bridges to sell.
What major setback? A minor bump in the road, some start to panic.
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What major setback? A minor bump in the road, some start to panic.
Well Storr is a big deal and I’m sure there will be others.
I’m not panicking by any means, but it is gonna be a little concerning going forward. Especially not having a full staff in place. The sooner we get this settled the sooner we can see where we’re at and evaluate.
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Storr is blowing up. It was going to be tough to keep him committed regardless of staff changes. But beyond Storr, replacing what OA brought to the program is going to be difficult if not impossible. That’s the major setback.
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Well Storr is a big deal and I’m sure there will be others.
I’m not panicking by any means, but it is gonna be a little concerning going forward. Especially not having a full staff in place. The sooner we get this settled the sooner we can see where we’re at and evaluate.
We are still Storr's best listed offer. Who else do you think will reopen? There is only one other unsigned commit. The 5 incoming are sounding upbeat, though anything can happen.
TyTy to KY gel and reportedly Chin, OA, and Jai all taking credit. Their people were even crediting OA snd Chin for the transfer from IA. Lucas and Bruiser gotta be looking for an exit.
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We are still Storr's best listed offer. Who else do you think will reopen? There is only one other unsigned commit. The 5 incoming are sounding upbeat, though anything can happen.
TyTy to KY gel and reportedly Chin, OA, and Jai all taking credit. Their people were even crediting OA snd Chin for the transfer from IA. Lucas and Bruiser gotta be looking for an exit.
Sounds like Storr and Chin are pretty tight. My guess is he’ll be Kentucky bound unless Frazier and our TBA staff can close the gap quickly.
So far no others have decommitted or had a change of heart, but there could be others in ‘22 and ‘23.
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Storr is blowing up. It was going to be tough to keep him committed regardless of staff changes. But beyond Storr, replacing what OA brought to the program is going to be difficult if not impossible. That’s the major setback.
So Uberwood finds someone who brings other things to the table. I was hanging around in 1983 when we lost Tony Yates. Some were sure that was it for Henson. Then he hired a former player and current probation officer whose coaching experience consisted of 3 years as a volunteer at a grade school?
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We don't even know who all we might have gained/will now lose.
The damage of losing OA can't be overstated, no matter what spark says.
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Antigua was only on loan to us while he rehabbed his image after the South Florida disaster.
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We somehow managed to pry Chin away from UIC.
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Storr is blowing up. It was going to be tough to keep him committed regardless of staff changes. But beyond Storr, replacing what OA brought to the program is going to be difficult if not impossible. That’s the major setback.
Yeah, he is ranked #149 composite right now after transferring and having a good junior year. He averaged 11 points game. Not exactly a McDAA candidate, but looks like he could be good player.
There is zero reason to believe he would have ditched us if our staff and performance were relatively stable.
The others also look like players- Bass (ranked #217 composite), Goode (#99), Podz (#158) and Melendez (#98). None of these guys are future NBA guys, but one can build a nice team with them over time with a well constructed roster.
Of course EVERY recruit we get "is blowing up", or "was blowing up" and our staff were amazingly only ones in country who could see that and our players are ALWAYS much better than their rankings. LOL.
Nobody is in panic mode- but the lack of a settled staff dragging out is not a good thing. No other way to spin it.
I would not be surprised if we lose somebody else.
Of course, we may get somebody new if we get an assistant with some players that were connected to him.
Need to get this taken care of.
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Should have a yes or no from Huss in a couple days. If he can't sell his own family on the move, we probably don't want him.
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Well, Omaha is admittedly a nicer metro area probably than C-U which is basically a college town in rural Illinois.
If they are both Creighton grads they must have a lot of strong ties.
My guess is probably not even if it is double his salary. Creighton has no doubt offered him a nice raise.
And he is likely starting to show up on head coaching candidate short lists in a lot of searches. He doesn't need to come to Illinois to get there.
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Antigua was only on loan to us while he rehabbed his image after the South Florida disaster.
Exactly
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So the Storrs kid...
It might be related to the assistants, but kinda not. So for whatever reason they (storrs side) didn’t know we were getting the Podz kid. I’m not sure why they didn’t know that (it was pretty obvious?!). So they didn’t like when he committed, it’s crowded now a bit
Then Chin ghosted them on his way out and ...Hulka never reached out. That didn’t go over well
No idea why he would have trusted guys half out the door to keep working , he should have been on top of it. But what do I know
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So the Storrs kid...
It might be related to the assistants, but kinda not. So for whatever reason they didn’t know we were getting the Podz kid. I’m not sure why they didn’t know that (it was pretty obvious?!). So they didn’t like when he committed.
Then Chin ghosted them on his way out and ...Hulka never reached out. That didn’t go over well
No idea why he would have trusted guys half out the door to keep working , he should have been on top of it. But what do I know
Sounds like the standard Champaign clown shoes.
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So the Storrs kid...
It might be related to the assistants, but kinda not. So for whatever reason they (storrs side) didn’t know we were getting the Podz kid. I’m not sure why they didn’t know that (it was pretty obvious?!). So they didn’t like when he committed, it’s crowded now a bit
Then Chin ghosted them on his way out and ...Hulka never reached out. That didn’t go over well
No idea why he would have trusted guys half out the door to keep working , he should have been on top of it. But what do I know
Yeah. That doesn't sound good if they didn't attend to all of these incoming guys.
Seems like all three of Podz, Storrs, and Bass are primarily shooting/wing guards. And we then have three guys who are wing/small 4 type guys in Goode and Melendez and Hutcherson.
We might get lucky and have Curbelo for 2 more years. So in '22 season there would be six guys wanting PT for three slots.
I was hoping that Bass or Storrs might be able to play some lead guard if Curbelo leaves after '21 season.
I think Bass is next guy who could have second thoughts. He was OA guy I think and may want more immediate PT.
Of course this year it is very crowded for the three new guys now that Damonte and Trent are coming back and Grandison is still here- and of course Plummer is bringing his 3ball roadshow here.
Not going to be much time for Podz,Melendez, or Goode really, especially if Hutch is actually a player. We have 8 guys for 3 positions.
They need to be recruiting a point guard for '22 class hard.
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https://twitter.com/king_Rome34/status/1393282784584773633?s=19
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Good for him!!
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https://twitter.com/king_Rome34/status/1393282784584773633?s=19
Good luck Jermaine ...
And from the same thread ....
#Illini Bball recruiting news Illinois new Assistant Coach Chester Frazier is making waves already. Cameron Corhen, a 6-9, 205-pound Center from Plano, TX., said: That’s my guy (Chester) outside of just basketball & recruiting. He’s like a big brother to me now, I like him a lot.
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So the Storrs kid...
It might be related to the assistants, but kinda not. So for whatever reason they (storrs side) didn’t know we were getting the Podz kid. I’m not sure why they didn’t know that (it was pretty obvious?!). So they didn’t like when he committed, it’s crowded now a bit
Then Chin ghosted them on his way out and ...Hulka never reached out. That didn’t go over well
No idea why he would have trusted guys half out the door to keep working , he should have been on top of it. But what do I know
Lol nice job, Brad. I suppose he was too busy to reach out.
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Lol nice job, Brad. I suppose he was too busy to reach out.
Just like he was too busy to game plan for Loyola
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Just like he was too busy to game plan for Loyola
Maybe I’m crazy, but if I’d just turned over my entire staff I think my alarm bell to reach out to recruits might have gone off. Am I off base on this?
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Maybe I’m crazy, but if I’d just turned over my entire staff I think my alarm bell to reach out to recruits might have gone off. Am I off base on this?
Dunno, are you retired or still active duty? If the latter, then no you are still on base with this. ;)
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Maybe I’m crazy, but if I’d just turned over my entire staff I think my alarm bell to reach out to recruits might have gone off. Am I off base on this?
Supposedly they did at some point in this. Not sure who "they" was or how.
The fact that we basically have an open position and another guy nobody wants, including us, is not a good look.
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Goodman - "My money is on Tom Crean and Georgia for the Tre Mitchell/Tony Bergeron package deal. Just an educated guess. Tom Crean has a spot on his staff and HAS to win this season.
I’m told LSU is out, and no spot on Texas or Florida State staff for Bergeron."
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1394397424861564928?s=19
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The Guerrier transfer kid is announcing Thursday.
We are on his list.
This would be interesting get.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1394311859176714241?s=20
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(https://media1.tenor.com/images/3c2647688b80907a45f5f58e9a2684fd/tenor.gif?itemid=9797730)
Tre Mitchell update
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(https://media1.tenor.com/images/3c2647688b80907a45f5f58e9a2684fd/tenor.gif?itemid=9797730)
Tre Mitchell update
I think the staff is pretty confident in getting Guerrier and realizes they don’t have to jump through the hoops with him like they do Mitchell. I’m good with that. Bye bye Mitchell.
Now.....let’s just hope Guerrier chooses us 😬
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I think the staff is pretty confident in getting Guerrier and realizes they don’t have to jump through the hoops with him like they do Mitchell. I’m good with that. Bye bye Mitchell.
Now.....let’s just hope Guerrier chooses us 😬
That’s what I hear.....just like they had Mitchell all but wrapped up
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That’s what I hear.....just like they had Mitchell all but wrapped up
I guess we will see.
Brad must be taking the lead on this.
This kid is/was a 4 for Syracuse. I kind of wonder how we will keep the troops happy in terms of playing time.
We could be a pretty decent and deep Top 25 team next year.
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If we add Guerrier and Kofi comes back we are legit better than last year...perhaps by a fair amount.
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If we add Guerrier and Kofi comes back we are legit better than last year...perhaps by a fair amount.
I think we could be a lot better.
I thought the team in 2019-20 was maybe better than this past year.
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I think we could be a lot better.
I thought the team in 2019-20 was maybe better than this past year.
There is either a lot of depth or a lot of bench guys / practice players. Without Kofi and another transfer:
guards: Andre Curbelo, Trent Frazier, Alfonso Plummer, Da'Monte Williams, Edgar Padilla
wing guards [or forwards]: Austin Hutcherson, Jacob Grandison, Brandin Podziemski, Ramses Melendez, Luke Goode
bigs: Omar Payne, Coleman Hawkins, Brandon Lieb, Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk, Conner Severn
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Slim Jake is a three/four.
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Slim Jake is a three/four.
Positionlessness
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With no Kofi or another transfer who is true 4 we are looking at:
Curbelo 1
Frazier 1/2
Plummer 3
Grandison/Hutcherson 3/4
Payne/Hawkins/BBV 5
DaMonte 3/4
Melendez 3
Podz 2/3
Goode 3
Others
We could be Top 30-35 team and a lot of fun to watch.
Add Guerrier only we are likely Top 25 or better.
Add Kofi only we are Top 15 or better.
Add Guerrier and Kofi we are Top 5 and deepest and one of most talented teams we have seen here in 20 years.
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The team is going to be better without Ayo?
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The team is going to be better without Ayo?
Undefeated season
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With Kofi and Guerrier I think we would be better.
Better scoring balance, better three ball, more depth, and a real point guard on the floor 35 mpg.
I mean, geez, we might win 2 games in the NCAAs.
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If we add Guerrier and Kofi comes back we are legit better than last year...perhaps by a fair amount.
Easily better -
Kofi coming back with a "true" assist guy at PG...will/can only be better.
Gurrier coming (if this happens) is like adding a 5* talent where last year we arguably had 2-4* playing position...leaning move towards (2) Grandison. Williams of course would be higher, but out of position for most part.
Wings - Undersized, but both proven in Plummer/Frazier
Guards - Belo will explode and make less bad decisions imo with maturity.
I think the team will be better, but ONLY with Kofi and Gurrier being here.
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If Guerrier comes and Kofi comes back, yes we will be better IMO.
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Is Tyler coming back ?
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Is Tyler coming back ?
https://fightingillini.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/2021-22
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https://www.si.com/college/illinois/basketball/tyler-underwood-to-return-to-illini-for-sixth-season-july-21-2020 (https://www.si.com/college/illinois/basketball/tyler-underwood-to-return-to-illini-for-sixth-season-july-21-2020)
I think I read somewhere he might be in some role?
Has been at three schools in 6 years?
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Chester trying to get us some "dogs"....
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Dillon-Mitchell-recruitment-update-Auburn-Illinois-Ohio-State-Vanderbilt-165516697/
Not on his visit schedule however?
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Iowa State transfer Jalen Coleman-Lands commits to Kansas
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Iowa State transfer Jalen Coleman-Lands commits to Kansas
Good for him. Hope he ends his career well.
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Good for him. Hope he ends his career well.
He actually shot the 3 ball pretty well this past year. Must have been that great coaching from IlliniChief's hero Prohm.
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Iowa State transfer Jalen Coleman-Lands commits to Kansas
He'll be the most experienced water boy in the nation
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He'll be the most experienced water boy in the nation
He will be 25 in July. Lol.
Been around awhile. This will be his 4th school.
Did shoot 39% from three this year and hit 2.5 per game and score 14ppg. His best year in same league so they know what they are getting.
They will use him.
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He actually shot the 3 ball pretty well this past year. Must have been that great coaching from IlliniChief's hero Prohm.
He's not my hero...he didn't sign up with us... :-\
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Sounds from Memphis boards/articles seem to think we are in the lead for Guerrier...we will know today. This probably means Oregon gets him though...
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Chester working the trail....https://247sports.com/Article/Basketball-recruiting-Illinois-Kansas-Virginia-Tech-Pitt-Jayden-Epps-16554879
Jayden Epps, Dillon Mitchell, Malique Ewin and Corhen-Whitmore and more, Frazier is showing alot early imo. He still needs to land one or all....but all players are good, very good.
Frazier will prove himself, as he always does...we will see who can help him.
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What is he showing a lot of early?
Of course he is tracking guys. That is what he is supposed to do. So is Alexander who will get announced soon I assume.
Chet certainly wasn't hired as a stud lead recruiter.
He hasn't really shown that in 10 years.
Not really sure why that would change much now.
That is why we are trying to find a more proven lead recruiter.
If we get Guerrier the credit will go to Brad for selling him on the open role at the 4.
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What is he showing a lot of early?
Of course he is tracking guys. That is what he is supposed to do. So is Alexander who will get announced soon I assume.
Chet certainly wasn't hired as a stud lead recruiter.
He hasn't really shown that in 10 years.
Not really sure why that would change much now.
That is why we are trying to find a more proven lead recruiter.
He is showing he can get in with alot of really good talent, who in return speak very highly of him as a contact/recruiter/one they can trust. Before OA...maybe Chin, anyone else for the last 15 years that can say that working for the ILLINI? Not really, it is a positive sign is how I choose to read this.
If we get Guerrier the credit will go to Brad for selling him on the open role at the 4.
He is showing he can get in with alot of really good talent, who in return speak very highly of him as a contact/recruiter/one they can trust. Before OA...maybe Chin, anyone else for the last 15 years that can say that working for the ILLINI? Not really, it is a positive sign is how I choose to read this.
I agree on Quincy and why he may end up here.
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In a truly shocking development, Guerrier isn’t coming to Illinois
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In a truly shocking development, Guerrier isn’t coming to Illinois
Is the team still going to be better without Ayo?
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Is the team still going to be better without Ayo?
Nobody said they would be unless we had both Kofi coming back and Guerrier decided to come here. ::)
But, it will not take much for even a marginal tourney team to equal Ayo's stellar tourney record of one win.
I do think his single game total of 6 TOs in a tourney game will stand for awhile.
It may even be a record for Illinois so there is always that.
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Nobody said they would be unless we had both Kofi coming back and Guerrier decided to come here. ::)
But, it will not take much for even a marginal tourney team to equal Ayo's stellar tourney record of one win.
I do think his single game total of 6 TOs in a tourney game will stand for awhile.
It may even be a record for Illinois so there is always that.
Good thing for Illini fans Ayo's gone!
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Good thing for Illini fans Ayo's gone!
Trolls gonna troll.
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Is the team still going to be better without Ayo?
Trolls gonna troll.
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He is showing he can get in with alot of really good talent, who in return speak very highly of him as a contact/recruiter/one they can trust. Before OA...maybe Chin, anyone else for the last 15 years that can say that working for the ILLINI? Not really, it is a positive sign is how I choose to read this.
I agree on Quincy and why he may end up here.
Talking to kids and putting out offers means absolutely nothing. You act like we have never had fckign coaches make offers before and get recruits. FYI - we had about 30 Top 150 recruits in the last 15 years before OA and Chin. Imagine that.
Of course recruits speak highly of him. They speak highly of everyone. That's what recruits do, dumbass. The whole "I am blessed to be offered" blah blah, and "they really are working hard on me" , blah blah, "They are in on me early" blah blah. "I really like their program and coaches" blah blah, "they play fast" blah blah, "they come to my games" blah, blah
WTF are they supposed to say?
"Yeah, Illinois is talking to me and offered but they have kind of suckedass for a long time and have too many guards and wings there already."
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In a truly shocking development, Guerrier isn’t coming to Illinois
Well the old we have playing time at a position to sell thing didn't work.
Surprised also because all recruits speak so highly of Chet.
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Talking to kids and putting out offers means absolutely nothing. You act like we have never had fckign coaches make offers before and get recruits. FYI - we had about 30 Top 150 recruits in the last 15 years before OA and Chin. Imagine that.
Of course recruits speak highly of him. They speak highly of everyone. That's what recruits do, dumbass. The whole "I am blessed to be offered" blah blah, and "they really are working hard on me" , blah blah, "They are in on me early" blah blah. "I really like their program and coaches" blah blah, "they play fast" blah blah, "they come to my games" blah, blah
WTF are they supposed to say?
"Yeah, Illinois is talking to me and offered but they have kind of suckedass for a long time and have too many guards and wings there already."
Man, you either need to lay off the coffee, the Crown or tell the dude assking for some to do you better....your working harder at this than an ugly stripper on midday during the week....for fucks sake.... !!!!!!
Carawell #56, out did that work out in 2006?
McCamey/Tisdale/Cole in 2007, all top 150...good but how many other schools were crazy for them?
NONE 2008
Bertrand/Paul/Griffey/Richardson...now here is a class....2009, 11 years ago.
Richmond/Leonard/Head....2010...10 years ago, how did this one work out again?
Henry/Shaw/Egwu/Abrams, we kept 2 of them...arguably the best two in 2011
NONE 2012
Nunn-Hill-Colbert 2013....well we were rolling for awhile with 2 of these...
Black only in 2014
JCL/Paul/Williams/Jordan....we kept 1 the whole time-2015
Lucas @ 138....didn't he just become a Mormon? - 2016
Smith/Frazier -2017...Thank god we got Frazier...down went Smith
Ayo/Jones..well we kept Ayo thank goodness. -2018 who recruited Ayo?
KOFI...long lives the KING, who got him again? 2019
2020-Miller gone, Curbelo OA got him also....
"You act like we have never had fckign coaches make offers before and get recruits." I act like before OA/Chin we really didn't get many players that were exciting and that others were clamoring for...the numbers and the careers speak for themselves.
2017 OA came on board and started the trend...before him we were so fucking up and down and our P-5 conference elite school showed it through recruits. If Chester can step his game up and land some as I alluded, well the drop off will be lesser imo.
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Sorry, you are basically clueless.
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Sounds from Memphis boards/articles seem to think we are in the lead for Guerrier...we will know today. This probably means Oregon gets him though...
We were never in the lead with him.
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Oregon will prob get Jacob young too.
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Have to admit their beatdown of Iowa was a fun game to watch.
They have it going.
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Oregon will prob get Jacob young too.
I give you an applaud. You provided recruiting information. It's not exactly what this board stands for, but I like learning useful information now and then.
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So the Illinois orange colored read on Kofi is that the plan is him trying to convince the world he’s absolutely leaving in order to improve draft stock. When, in reality, they know he’s likely coming back
....the orange Kool aid read on coaches and recruits has been wildly accurate lately if you couldn’t tell.
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So the Illinois orange colored read on Kofi is that the plan is him trying to convince the world he’s absolutely leaving in order to improve draft stock. When, in reality, they know he’s likely coming back
....the orange Kool aid read on coaches and recruits has been wildly accurate lately if you couldn’t tell.
Kofi coming back solves ALOT obviously, still think the staff needs to find a 4 gem somewhere. Payne-Grand-Hawk may be fine, but Payne is Kofi insurance mostly and neither of the other two are high level 4's that we would all love to have with Belo and Kofi....a third really good option would place us back where we need to be for next year. All said after Grandison started at 4 last year, we went 15-2 I think so....
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So the Illinois orange colored read on Kofi is that the plan is him trying to convince the world he’s absolutely leaving in order to improve draft stock. When, in reality, they know he’s likely coming back
....the orange Kool aid read on coaches and recruits has been wildly accurate lately if you couldn’t tell.
Yeah, I am pretty sure that Charlton Young is not coming. LOL. They have a monster class of guys coming in and he sounds all in there.
Sounds like Huss was only serious possibility and that is not happening it appears.
Not sure any of other better P5 targets had any real interest at all (Powell, K. Young,Mennenega, Pinkins), but they all probably got nice pay raises out of the deal.
We are down to the B level P5 guys (Bailey, Robinson types), and looking in the bushes for a midmajor potential guy.
We have no real recruiters right now with Chet and Alexander.
I wonder if Brad and whatever staff were selling Guerrier thought they had him? You had mentioned that Brad was thinking they did. He allegedly wanted to play the 3- not the 4.
https://www.zagsblog.com/2021/05/20/oregon-keeps-the-canadian-connection-going-by-landing-syracuse-transfer-quincy-guerrier/ (https://www.zagsblog.com/2021/05/20/oregon-keeps-the-canadian-connection-going-by-landing-syracuse-transfer-quincy-guerrier/)
As for the roster- have no idea why a soon to be 22 year old Kofi would come back.
He needs serious pro training somewhere on his skill deficits. Not going to get it at Illinois but who knows, maybe he will come back.
Should be good for us if some Einstein on staff lets him pass the fcking ball once in awhile.
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Tom Ostrom - Indiana, anybody know where he went....shrugs? It is very telling that our spots have not been filled? Maybe the reported $$$ we were offering the old coaches is biting us a bit?
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Hadn't seen this name mentioned previously?
https://www.johnsoncitypress.com/sports/6-foot-7-charles-commits-to-bucs/article_43085a82-bdaf-11eb-8a7a-d32e69ffdc22.html
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Hadn't seen this name mentioned previously?
https://www.johnsoncitypress.com/sports/6-foot-7-charles-commits-to-bucs/article_43085a82-bdaf-11eb-8a7a-d32e69ffdc22.html
Damn, beat out by East Tennessee State again.
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Damn, beat out by East Tennessee State again.
Right....my guess is that when we got the wings we got or were told they would be committing, we laid off this guy? Not sure how much we were actually recruiting him.
His ranking sure states why we would have been, again though?
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Must not have liked being chest bumped by Chet.
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The 1st year coach has a full staff to
"recruit, develop and teach at the highest level."
JOHNSON CITY, Tenn. (April 19, 2021) –First-year ETSU men’s basketball head coach Desmond Oliver announced on Monday the hiring of his entire coaching staff. Patrice Days, Mark Bialkoski and Mantoris Robinson have been named assistant coaches, while Oliver named Lucas Campbell the Director of Basketball Operations and Sunny Park the Director of Basketball Sport Performance.
“I’m very excited to finally have all of my staff on board,” said Oliver. “When I set out to hire this staff, I wanted to find guys that had the ability to recruit, develop and teach at the highest level. We talk about wanting our players walking into opposing team’s arenas and looking like a Power-5 team physically. I’m blessed to say we have a Power-5 coaching staff! We have experienced guys with the highest character who are connected and committed to player development on and off the court.”
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https://twitter.com/notbigten/status/1397684709761683456?s=21
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Would Nick take the Special Assistant gig?
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https://twitter.com/notbigten/status/1397684709761683456?s=21
Kansas picked up two transfers and were over the limit. Neither played his position.
Somebody had to go, though. He came off bench and started in JUCO.
Sounds like a bench guy here, but adds size.
https://www.loganvols.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/curry_sydney_t8do
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Article/Sydney-Curry-reopens-recruitment-departs-KU-basketballs-incoming-class-165802383/
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https://twitter.com/adamzagoria/status/1397910660856565761?s=21
Kofi gone. Well the ending to last season and this off-season has really sucked.
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I did, too. One of the more disappointing players this season behind Tev. I wonder if he's 100% back or a possibility to leave.
Life was barely worth living without the Cesspool.
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Eh.
How would you off yourself?
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Eh.
How would you off yourself?
I would dress up as a young black male and then disappoint Brad Underwood.
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Wherefore art thou, Matic?
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Moussa Cisse C'mon down....C'mon Kofi talk to him, tell him what we did for you...wait, don't bring up names since they are departed.
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Rest Easy GA GA has some recruiting chops....https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/New-Illinois-Fighting-Illini-basketball-assistant-Geoff-Alexander-excited-about-return-to-recruiting-role-165830072/
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With offers: Chet is working it so far.
6’11 2022 C Shawn Phillips Jr
6'6" 2024 WF Jahki Howard
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With offers: Chet is working it so far.
6’11 2022 C Shawn Phillips Jr
6'6" 2024 WF Jahki Howard
Chet has some potential as a bag-dropper. Long way to go before he's in Antigua's league, tho.
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Chet is no doubt strictly by the book.
That is why he has never landed top level recruits in 9 years.
I am guessing Alexander is also.
He has never recruited at P5 level.
Both good guy gym rats in a cesspool of sharks.
The ceiling is probably Top 100-200 kids.
We will be OK, but need to get lucky and have a few outperform their rankings.
IlliniChief will report that they each go to work everyday, have cell phones, turn on their computer, answer texts and emails,are doing amazing, and are really working it and showing him something.
We need a lead recruiter.
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IlliniChief will report that they each go to work everyday, have cell phones, turn on their computer, answer texts and emails,are doing amazing, and are really working it
Did we get his analysis on the wetness of water yet?
I think Chet understands the game. I think he could play it if that were the goal. Certainly not as productively as O.
But I'm pretty sure Guenther Lite is not genuinely interested in success.
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Did we get his analysis on the wetness of water yet?
I think Chet understands the game. I think he could play it if that were the goal. Certainly not as productively as O.
But I'm pretty sure Guenther Lite is not genuinely interested in success.
I am pretty sure you are right. This is very provincial at this point.
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Who spiked the Kool Aid? This was actually posted on Loyalty. Presumably by a human person.
Pop'sBlackDog
I am extremely happy with the first two AC hires. We lost three because we chose high impact fast turnaround type hires and it was a huge success. We now can play the long game from a position of strength. We have outstanding guards,solid post players and versatile wings available for the next two seasons. There has been minimum upheaval so far and I have faith in JW and Coach Underwood to steady the ship.
Illinois must be weighing the top options, trying to lure their top pick or possibly waiting for a pro to exit the playoffs.
I...L...L...
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Who spiked the Kool Aid? This was actually posted on Loyalty. Presumably by a human person.
Pop'sBlackDog
I am extremely happy with the first two AC hires. We lost three because we chose high impact fast turnaround type hires and it was a huge success. We now can play the long game from a position of strength. We have outstanding guards,solid post players and versatile wings available for the next two seasons. There has been minimum upheaval so far and I have faith in JW and Coach Underwood to steady the ship.
Illinois must be weighing the top options, trying to lure their top pick or possibly waiting for a pro to exit the playoffs.
I...L...L...
That guy’s dumber than my ass.
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That guy is about as off the rails as anyone who believes Whitman isn't genuinely interested in success.
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Who spiked the Kool Aid? This was actually posted on Loyalty. Presumably by a human person.
Pop'sBlackDog
I am extremely happy with the first two AC hires. We lost three because we chose high impact fast turnaround type hires and it was a huge success. We now can play the long game from a position of strength. We have outstanding guards,solid post players and versatile wings available for the next two seasons. There has been minimum upheaval so far and I have faith in JW and Coach Underwood to steady the ship.
Illinois must be weighing the top options, trying to lure their top pick or possibly waiting for a pro to exit the playoffs.
I...L...L...
All the stuff there is like that. Anyone who questions the staff or timing is quickly attacked.
I think Whitman is interested in being competitive, but he and Hulka do appear butthurt by the exits and are on a loyalty kick. I think they are looking for a bigger impact guy for the lead spot.
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I see illininutt has relocated his Asperger’s Twitter Bot show to Loyalty.
I was actually thinking there was a more critical vibe than usual. Sure there are the usual sunshine and rainbows guys but also plenty of poignant concerns being expressed. Plenty of people not very pleased with how things have gone since the Loyola game.
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They probably weren't all that pleased with the Loyola game, either.
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Who spiked the Kool Aid? This was actually posted on Loyalty. Presumably by a human person.
Pop'sBlackDog
I am extremely happy with the first two AC hires. We lost three because we chose high impact fast turnaround type hires and it was a huge success. We now can play the long game from a position of strength. We have outstanding guards,solid post players and versatile wings available for the next two seasons. There has been minimum upheaval so far and I have faith in JW and Coach Underwood to steady the ship.
Illinois must be weighing the top options, trying to lure their top pick or possibly waiting for a pro to exit the playoffs.
I...L...L...
we have some of the dumbest fans in the country I think buying this story line
$hitman himself probably posted that lol
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we have some of the dumbest fans in the country I think buying this story line
$hitman himself probably posted that lol
Our fans are the dumbest in the country, hands down. They thought we were "back" because Nick Irvin loaned Ayo to us and Antigua dropped a bag on Kofi.
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I think some are trying to explain the lack of information. It seems like a lot of the smoke was coming from other fan boards. Now there is nothing.
I suppose it is possible that nobody qualified wants the job and they just gave up. There are more likely explanations for the silence though.
I heard they had a top guy almost locked up, but found out he has used periods in texts. Not a good look if that came out. Plus, we want players and recruits to feel safe.
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The posters on 247 and Loyalty are of opinion our program is back to top tier status and that Hulka is a pretty elite coach.
The BT turned out to be a mediocre league as many suspected which we ran through in the last month. We had fallen to around Top 20 before we got our head out of our ass and decided to try and guard somebody. We were really more of a Top 15-20 team overall it turned out. Not a great team at all, but pretty good at times. Fell apart completely in tourney obviously.
Credit to the team and staff, but reality is Hulka has been below .500 overall in P5 league games in 3 out of 5 seasons.
We should be NCAA team this year in the 7-10 seed range. Might even be more fun to watch this year rather than Ayo dominating the ball and trying to stuff it down to Kofi while the other guys stand around.
We need a serious recruiter. We could be Top 25 most years if we do that. Would be nice to make a S16 every few years.........
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I think some are trying to explain the lack of information. It seems like a lot of the smoke was coming from other fan boards. Now there is nothing.
I suppose it is possible that nobody qualified wants the job and they just gave up. There are more likely explanations for the silence though.
I heard they had a top guy almost locked up, but found out he has used periods in texts. Not a good look if that came out. Plus, we want players and recruits to feel safe.
LOL. Yes, periods in texts are apparently seen as an aggressive maneuver.
Have no idea what is going on with the lead recruiter spot. Sounds like they had Huss, but he backed off.
They likely are looking outside the box now as our top P5 targets have not worked out.
I am sure they are working hard to find a solid guy and will do so.
We are just a pretty garden variety second tier P5 school right now, and rural Illinois is not an attraction.
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Our fans are the dumbest in the country, hands down. They thought we were "back" because Nick Irvin loaned Ayo to us and Antigua dropped a bag on Kofi.
A 1 seed and ranked 2nd in country in last AP poll is about as back as Illinois gets but yeah
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The posters on 247 and Loyalty are of opinion our program is back to top tier status and that Hulka is a pretty elite coach.
The BT turned out to be a mediocre league as many suspected which we ran through in the last month. We had fallen to around Top 20 before we got our head out of our ass and decided to try and guard somebody. We were really more of a Top 15-20 team overall it turned out. Not a great team at all, but pretty good at times. Fell apart completely in tourney obviously.
Credit to the team and staff, but reality is Hulka has been below .500 overall in P5 league games in 3 out of 5 seasons.
We should be NCAA team this year in the 7-10 seed range. Might even be more fun to watch this year rather than Ayo dominating the ball and trying to stuff it down to Kofi while the other guys stand around.
We need a serious recruiter. We could be Top 25 most years if we do that. Would be nice to make a S16 every few years.........
You really really seem to go out of your way to downplay anything Underwood does.
Hulka went 9-9 in reg season league play @ OSU (in his first year after taking over for a coach who got fired for losing too much) They then lost to a ranked ISU squad in B12 tourney so yes they technically finished below .500 in league play that season.
Hulka went well below .500 twice at UI (after taking over for a coach who was fired for losing too much)
After two rebuilding years, Hulka won like 29 reg season B1G games the last two regular seasons at UI.
His seasons at SFA were remarkable regardless of what level they are (now vacated)
He has found a way to win every place he’s been. It’s kind of strange to constantly act like the sky is falling and that he’s in over his head.
I’ve said it several times before and I’ll say it again: I think it’s much more likely he ends up in trouble with the NCAA or gets hired away than fired for not winning enough here.
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I’ve said it several times before and I’ll say it again: I think it’s much more likely he ends up in trouble with the NCAA or gets hired away than fired for not winning enough here.
Hopefully Rob adds this to his screen cap collection.
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I’m sure it’s already in there
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I’ve said it several times before and I’ll say it again: I think it’s much more likely he ends up in trouble with the NCAA or gets hired away than fired for not winning enough here.
Agreed. Although I still expect his likeliest exit is next year to KSU.
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You really really seem to go out of your way to downplay anything Underwood does.
Hulka went 9-9 in reg season league play @ OSU (in his first year after taking over for a coach who got fired for losing too much) They then lost to a ranked ISU squad in B12 tourney so yes they technically finished below .500 in league play that season.
Hulka went well below .500 twice at UI (after taking over for a coach who was fired for losing too much)
After two rebuilding years, Hulka won like 29 reg season B1G games the last two regular seasons at UI.
His seasons at SFA were remarkable regardless of what level they are (now vacated)
He has found a way to win every place he’s been. It’s kind of strange to constantly act like the sky is falling and that he’s in over his head.
I’ve said it several times before and I’ll say it again: I think it’s much more likely he ends up in trouble with the NCAA or gets hired away than fired for not winning enough here.
The question is, "will whitman let him do what he needs to do to succeed?" Underwood needs bag-droppers. We just lost two of them. Not sure the University is going to let him pick up another one, given our historically corn-pone culture.
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You really really seem to go out of your way to downplay anything Underwood does.
Hulka went 9-9 in reg season league play @ OSU (in his first year after taking over for a coach who got fired for losing too much) They then lost to a ranked ISU squad in B12 tourney so yes they technically finished below .500 in league play that season.
Hulka went well below .500 twice at UI (after taking over for a coach who was fired for losing too much)
After two rebuilding years, Hulka won like 29 reg season B1G games the last two regular seasons at UI.
His seasons at SFA were remarkable regardless of what level they are (now vacated)
He has found a way to win every place he’s been. It’s kind of strange to constantly act like the sky is falling and that he’s in over his head.
I’ve said it several times before and I’ll say it again: I think it’s much more likely he ends up in trouble with the NCAA or gets hired away than fired for not winning enough here.
No need to go out of my way. The guy kind of fell into this job after a very mediocre season at OSU. Nobody gives a fck about SFA.
I bet most fans cannot even name the conference they were in.
We had a very good stretch in February in what turned out to be a pretty average league. The entire BT was total shit in the tourney.
He is an average coach at P5 so far by any measure. Not terrible, but nothing special. You are a just a homer.
His game prep and coaching in the NCAA tournament was possibly the the worst I have ever seen.
His biggest and really only asset of note is creating a culture of toughness and effort and they did not come ready to play in the NCAA.
Yeah- he was in way over his head as far as X's and O's and always has been. Hopefully he will expand his skills along the way.
As far as him leaving- I honestly think it would make little difference. He is pretty much just a guy.
They sky isn't falling, but we are just another P5 team trying to claw our way out of the barrel.
Hopefully they do not fall back down after next year which will be OK.
They better find a PG, a 4, and a post somewhere for '22.
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No need to go out of my way. The guy kind of fell into this job after a very mediocre season at OSU. Nobody gives a fck about SFA.
I bet most fans cannot even name the conference they were in.
We had a very good stretch in February in what turned out to be a pretty average league. The entire BT was total shit in the tourney.
He is an average coach at P5 so far by any measure. Not terrible, but nothing special. You are a just a homer.
His game prep and coaching in the NCAA tournament was possibly the the worst I have ever seen.
His biggest and really only asset of note is creating a culture of toughness and effort and they did not come ready to play in the NCAA.
Yeah- he was in way over his head as far as X's and O's and always has been. Hopefully he will expand his skills along the way.
As far as him leaving- I honestly think it would make little difference. He is pretty much just a guy.
They sky isn't falling, but we are just another P5 team trying to claw our way out of the barrel.
Hopefully they do not fall back down after next year which will be OK.
They better find a PG, a 4, and a post somewhere for '22.
Agree with all of this. At SFA, he just made sure the right people got the right bags so that he could 'out-talent' a shit league. Ok.
At OSU, he tried to do the same thing in a better league. Didn't work as well. Almost got caught. Had an assistant take the fall. Ok.
At Illinois, he's had exactly one good season with two likely NBA players who stayed longer than they should have. Got his ass handed to him by a better coached team.
Next year is looking bleak. And he lost his two bag-droppers.
He's a mediocrity.
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'20 was pretty great.
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'20 was pretty great.
If you mean the 19/20 team, I would agree.
Better balance,toughness mentally, and will to win. Feliz was a fcking monster. Nobody fcked the dog in front of him.
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Agree with all of this. At SFA, he just made sure the right people got the right bags so that he could 'out-talent' a shit league. Ok.
At OSU, he tried to do the same thing in a better league. Didn't work as well. Almost got caught. Had an assistant take the fall. Ok.
At Illinois, he's had exactly one good season with two likely NBA players who stayed longer than they should have. Got his ass handed to him by a better coached team.
Next year is looking bleak. And he lost his two bag-droppers.
He's a mediocrity.
I think we will be decent next year. Maybe a 7-10 seed that could surprise if they have a hot weekend.
Better shooting overall, better balance, and a legit PG running the show full time.
The following season will be a tough one if Curbelo moves on.
No lead guard.
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No need to go out of my way. The guy kind of fell into this job after a very mediocre season at OSU. Nobody gives a fck about SFA.
I bet most fans cannot even name the conference they were in.
We had a very good stretch in February in what turned out to be a pretty average league. The entire BT was total shit in the tourney.
He is an average coach at P5 so far by any measure. Not terrible, but nothing special. You are a just a homer.
His game prep and coaching in the NCAA tournament was possibly the the worst I have ever seen.
His biggest and really only asset of note is creating a culture of toughness and effort and they did not come ready to play in the NCAA.
Yeah- he was in way over his head as far as X's and O's and always has been. Hopefully he will expand his skills along the way.
As far as him leaving- I honestly think it would make little difference. He is pretty much just a guy.
They sky isn't falling, but we are just another P5 team trying to claw our way out of the barrel.
Hopefully they do not fall back down after next year which will be OK.
They better find a PG, a 4, and a post somewhere for '22.
That’s definitely putting an interesting spin on an objectively historic season for this program. The last two coaches who built 1 seed/B1G champion caliber teams at Illinois are hall of famers.
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Oh wait I forgot Lon Kruger
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The following season will be a tough one if Curbelo moves on.
No lead guard.
Do you not know who Reggie Bass is?!
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I'm looking to become a bag dropper or bag man. Have some ideas, but need a way in. Any ideas?
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I can help you get acquainted with a couple of people.
Need six large, up front.
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That’s definitely putting an interesting spin on an objectively historic season for this program. The last two coaches who built 1 seed/B1G champion caliber teams at Illinois are hall of famers.
FFS. He does not even belong in the same sentence as Self, Henson, or Kruger and never will.
Even Weber was and is probably a better coach and his record is way better if you are attempting to be objective.
Our historic season will forever be known by an epic collapse via coaching choke job.
Hulka is just a guy so far. Nothing special by any measure. Here is a little factoid- His NCAA record is actually weaker than Groce’s if you want to be objective. I think the Hall of Fame is safe.
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Do you not know who Reggie Bass is?!
Haha. Bass looks interesting. Storrs would have helped.
We need to get in on some kids this summer.
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Haha. Bass looks interesting. Storrs would have helped.
We need to get in on some kids this summer.
We netted a keeper in Bass.
If college is in store for AJ, UI is still at the top of his shopping list.
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We netted a keeper in Bass.
If college is in store for AJ, UI is still at the top of his shopping list.
This.
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Allegedly Storrs taking unofficial visit this week.
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Allegedly Storrs taking unofficial visit this week.
https://twitter.com/illini_guys/status/1400462610420563968?s=21
https://twitter.com/dpiper247/status/1400467227862786048?s=21
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Would be good to keep Storrs. Bass might also be a decent combo and has good size.
Like them both.
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Nice to see the new staff able to line up a bunch of visits with some pretty good players.
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Nice to see the new staff able to line up a bunch of visits with some pretty good players.
I agree, I just wish they’d get this third assistant in place so the recruits could potentially meet who it will be.
Unless they’ve already got something up their sleeve, this makes no sense to not have the other staff member in place for visits.
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Illinois is the 15th state to pass NIL legislation. If Governor J.B. Pritzker signs the bill into law, Illinois would become the sixth state to make its NIL legislation effective July 1, though Texas passed similar legislation, which is awaiting Governor Greg Abbott’s signature. Eight other states passed NIL laws that go in effect between 2022 and 2025.
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-football-state-passes-name-image-likeness-legislation-Illini-golf-2021-NCAA-Championship-Malachi-Hood-scholarship-offer-166006049/
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Illinois is the 15th state to pass NIL legislation. If Governor J.B. Pritzker signs the bill into law, Illinois would become the sixth state to make its NIL legislation effective July 1, though Texas passed similar legislation, which is awaiting Governor Greg Abbott’s signature. Eight other states passed NIL laws that go in effect between 2022 and 2025.
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-football-state-passes-name-image-likeness-legislation-Illini-golf-2021-NCAA-Championship-Malachi-Hood-scholarship-offer-166006049/
Hopefully this should give us an advantage in recruiting. Players aren’t gonna wanna go to schools in State’s where it’s not legal....
I wanna believe that, buuuutttttt, nah lol
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Yeah, he is ranked #149 composite right now after transferring and having a good junior year. He averaged 11 points game. Not exactly a McDAA candidate, but looks like he could be good player.
There is zero reason to believe he would have ditched us if our staff and performance were relatively stable.
The others also look like players- Bass (ranked #217 composite), Goode (#99), Podz (#158) and Melendez (#98). None of these guys are future NBA guys, but one can build a nice team with them over time with a well constructed roster.
Of course EVERY recruit we get "is blowing up", or "was blowing up" and our staff were amazingly only ones in country who could see that and our players are ALWAYS much better than their rankings. LOL.
Nobody is in panic mode- but the lack of a settled staff dragging out is not a good thing. No other way to spin it.
I would not be surprised if we lose somebody else.
Of course, we may get somebody new if we get an assistant with some players that were connected to him.
Need to get this taken care of.
Storr announcing an OV to Kansas.
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Storr announcing an OV to Kansas.
Gee, I would hope we can compete for a 3 star with a school in deep shit about to get sanctioned.
But maybe not. Adidas might pay him a visit.
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The ncaa is actually going to do something? Storr sure doesn’t have a low three star offer list.
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The ncaa is actually going to do something? Storr sure doesn’t have a low three star offer list.
It's nothing special. He is a Top 150 or NR recruit and has a mix of various high major and low major offers.
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/AJ-Storr-142757/RecruitInterests/
Just picked up an offer from Grand Canyon. Kansas has some of worst guard play in B12. I am sure they will offer.
Sorry, I don't make the ratings, and they usually are on target. He may very well end up in Top 100.
But, yeah, if we get him then he is next Devin Booker. ::)
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Just finished watching the Obama/Anderson Cooper special. It was incite-full for sure but my biggest take-away was the Illini pennant hanging on the wall behind the group discussion. Gotta be useful for recruiting!
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Maybe Obama is next AC.
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Could be. He's a wing.
And, importantly, left-handed.
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I doubt today's Supreme Court ruling helps Illinois as there is no way Guenther Jr. is going, or going to be allowed, to start shelling out cash. I am guessing the rich will just get richer, except for an upstart here and there who is flush with cash from some tycoon who is pissed he can't buy a pro team.
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The court decision is long overdue, and it's going to cause chaos. The rift between men’s football/basketball vs everyone else will widen even further. The whole system needs to be scrapped or reimagined.
“Bitch better have my paid internship.”
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mens sports will soon look like womens sports where there are a few all star teams and a bunch of garbage
although they were already trending that way I guess
whatever
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The court decision is long overdue, and it's going to cause chaos. The rift between men’s football/basketball vs everyone else will widen even further. The whole system needs to be scrapped or reimagined.
“Bitch better have my paid internship.”
Except you have Title IX, which means tO$U, for example, is going to have to put money down for the chick sports too.
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They do.
I spend a good amount of time walking around B1G campuses. We are literally in the same league as tOSU and Ped State. But they are figuratively in a league of their own.
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Except you have Title IX, which means tO$U, for example, is going to have to put money down for the chick sports too.
I agree, but Title IX doesn’t mandate equal treatment of male and female athletes, nor does it require that an identical sum of money be spent on both. I think the key consideration for colleges is that "substantially proportional opportunities" for scholarships exist for women. The value of the financial aid may differ.
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I agree, but Title IX doesn’t mandate equal treatment of male and female athletes, nor does it require that an identical sum of money be spent on both. I think the key consideration for colleges is that "substantially proportional opportunities" for scholarships exist for women. The value of the financial aid may differ.
*Checks notes* Considering who is President, I would.not be too sure about that.
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Iowa State transfer Jalen Coleman-Lands commits to Kansas
I had to Google this to see if you were serious. I just read an article that said he’s entering his 7th season of college basketball. Lol
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2022 4* SG Sencire Harris commits to Illinois.
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Are you being Sencire?
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Chester going after recruits in JFG's back yard.
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not sure why it came out so tiny on the copy paste but thats hilarious none the less gonna keep it that way
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCO9qbj-R2g
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Big recruiting weekend, would be nice to get commitments from Corhen and Whitmore. Epps has been a beast this summer so it looks like we’ll be in good shape at PG for a few years.
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Big recruiting weekend, would be nice to get commitments from Corhen and Whitmore. Epps has been a beast this summer so it looks like we’ll be in good shape at PG for a few years.
just don't take them to any football games
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just don't take them to any football games
The Nebraska boards seem to think that if Big Red doesnt blow us out, it doesnt look good for their season.
I'll try to be the optimist about Sat. The good news is we have a lot of players coming back, with a coaching staff Nebby doesnt know how to prepare for.
The bad news is we have a lot of players coming back.
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I’m in STL for work meetings all week and have a couple Husker fan colleagues here. One of them thinks we’ll kick the shit out of them like we did last year. The other one thinks they’re revamped and are gonna ground and pound us into submission.
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I’m in STL for work meetings all week and have a couple Husker fan colleagues here. One of them thinks we’ll kick the shit out of them like we did last year. The other one thinks they’re revamped and are gonna ground and pound us into submission.
It could go one way or the other or maybe even not at all
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It could go one way or the other or maybe even not at all
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I member.
From somewhere around when I first started watching college football on tv, black and white, to when Osborne retired.
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Anyone else remember when Nebraska was a dominant force in college football?
I member.
My experience with Nebraska people: They can drink an alarming amount of beer. Like, if you set out a semi truck full of beer and told 20-30 of them to drink it, they would do it and ask for more. And they wouldn't be pricks, and wouldn't start fights. They would drink and have fun, and drink, and eat, and drink, and have fun, and drink some more.
It's quite a phenomenon, actually. Drink with Nebraska people. Just make sure you've eaten, and your liver is ready.
I’m standing next to a big Huskers fan. He took a picture of my phone on your post and sent it to half a dozen buddies just now.
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Why do you feel the need to remind me that you're old?
I know you're old. I don't give a fuck. I don't hold you in any higher regard for being old. In fact, the more the you remind me that you're old, the more I hate you.
I get it. You're old. You watched a black and white TV. I watched a black and white TV too. You walked to school. I did too. And walked home from school. I did too. And watched leave it to beaver on a shitty tv. And Andy Griffith. I did too. Nobody fucking cares.
I'm almost 50. I get it. I don't care. I used to play outside. I played outside until the sun went down and it was time for dinner. And blah blah. Nobody wants to hear that fucking shit. Everybody here understands that back in the glorious day, we did things a certain way. So, therefore, when you make a post about "I watched on a black and white TV!" nobody cares. It doesn't garner respect. it actually is a waste of time. Because nobody cares. I really, honestly, don't care that you watched a black and white TV. And I don't care that you gathered around a radio and listened as some guy told you to drink your ovaltine.
God damn.
You literally begged the question. God damn.
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The "black and white tv" thing set me off.
He made it about him being old and wise. Again, nobody cares about that shit.
Him and Nichi should have a saggy balls-off if we want to watch that.
I kinda don't.
I always felt like mn does it in self deprecating style
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The rant was arguably more in the No One Wants To category than whatever brief pangs of dementia Mn might post.
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Personally, I was entertained.
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I was entertained too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTs6UY1G9wM
Probably needs a session with Dr Rick.
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I member Bill McCartney coming to Boulder and circling the the NE game in red on the schedule, Eric Bienemy scoring 3 second half touchdowns at Lincoln to keep Buffs in national championship hunt, & Tom Osborne voting for Ga Tech in the final poll over the Buffs to create a national champ tie. What a douche bag!
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Promise Keepers is different from Oath Keepers.
Or is it?!?!
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Good question these days. I really believe that came around concurrent with his early dementia.
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Haha, yeah.
I get real fucking tired of the boomer, back in the day shit. I know Mn isn't a habitual offender, but I called it out. I maybe could have let it slide, but fuck it. I didn't.
Is what it is.
I'm almost back to that point in my life where I'm tired of apologizing.
I remember when Nebraska was good. They were good before you were born.
But that's beside the point.
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Haha, yeah.
I get real fucking tired of the boomer, back in the day shit. I know Mn isn't a habitual offender, but I called it out. I maybe could have let it slide, but fuck it. I didn't.
Is what it is.
I'm almost back to that point in my life where I'm tired of apologizing.
You make up with Spark and BAM! The old Jobu is back.
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I remember when Nebraska was good. They were good before you were born.
But that's beside the point.
You be you, Mn. Tell Jobu to go fuck himself!
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I’m standing next to a big Huskers fan. He took a picture of my phone on your post and sent it to half a dozen buddies just now.
They probably were like DUDE BRILLIANT IDEA LETS GET 30 PEOPLE AND SEE IF WE CAN DRINK A SEMI TRUCK FULL OF BEER
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Yeah, tell Jobu to go fuck himself.
Actually, I’m about to get some pussy. Like right now. So there we go.
Wait, whut? I am a little disappointed in you. You said you were going to get some pussy at 6:25:16. You were back posting at 6:27:08.
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Lol
At 6:25 I was about to get some. At 6:27 I made one more post ahead of the pussy getting.
I could see where the confusion would come from.
Jobu back at 8:06 pm. That’s more like it.
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Basically, I could see us beating their fucking asses. Or, I could see our asses fucking getting beaten.
I win the argument.
See, you care a lot.
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Corhen is off the board, with recruiting supposedly fluid, seems as if we may be stagnant with our remaining targets, and no real bigs either to hopefully displace Kofi when he leaves?
Mayan Kir 4* (RS JR) is still showing with no new school from the portal....we initially wanted him recruiting wise iirc?
Montavious Murphy (SO) Iowa St is showing no new school and a 4* rating? SF listing though, no reason to think history present or past here?
No other portal available Big's for 2022....No Big Big's in 2023, linked to ILLINI, always could be a late bloomer or a bunch of 1st time transfers next year. Possibly the staff likes Payne to replace him and is high on that concept. They are still recruiting guards small guards in fact for 2023...no interesting frontline help so to speak.
Haven't read anything either, I know the staff is quiet about this, and hands out offers like thin mints after dinner, but man when Kofi leaves and we are left with Payne/Hawkins with their size...I really hope we are run and gun because our frontline may be Leibing alot to be desired. But hey our guard play will be awesome.
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Henri Adiassa from Cali is Top 50 at position only has a Loyola Maramount offer...3 star in 2022 class?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_rF7-wdlM
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IlliniChief, do you have a list or spreadsheet you can post of who is "in" and who is being chased?
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lol
Do you really think Illinichief can use excel?
Maybe Google Spreadsheets, or whatever it is called?
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lol
Do you really think Illinichief can use excel?
I excel on spreading the sheets with your MOM, does that count? !!!!!!
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I excel on spreading the sheets with your MOM, does that count? !!!!!!
IlliniChief = IlliniKvn is a match!
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IlliniChief = IlliniKvn is a match!
Took a whopping 5 minutes to identify from one source who we had, who is warm with us supposedly....many offers, most won't amount to anything obviously.
I can add prospects a whole list but 24/7 already has this honestly.
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Not bad. Although, I feel like it’s somewhat contrived. Like, you didn’t come up with that on your own.
And that’s ok.
Thanks and you are correct, i had help, your Mom assisted..... ;D
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ARE chief not ARE material?
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ARE chief not ARE material?
Maybe, what is ARE??
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Maybe, what is ARE??
Don't bother. It's fucking stupid.
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https://twitter.com/rforan23/status/1445438730945314821?s=21
So this is kinda interesting…
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Not really. I have no ideas what those fuckheads are talking about. The tweet itself and the comments are fucking retarded.
I started typing it out to explain, but then just said, fuck it 😂🤙🏼
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I love how these guys “narrow” their list of possible schools down to uhhhh….. 9.
What, was he previously thinking about 25 schools?
Sign him up probably for Juwan now, who seems to get whoever he wants, and save the drama.
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I love how these guys “narrow” their list of possible schools down to uhhhh….. 9.
What, was he previously thinking about 25 schools?
Sign him up probably for Juwan now, who seems to get whoever he wants, and save the drama.
Doesn’t look like it on this one. It appears Michigan already filled his spot…
https://twitter.com/rforan23/status/1445470248266731537?s=21
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Doesn’t look like it on this one. It appears Michigan already filled his spot…
https://twitter.com/rforan23/status/1445470248266731537?s=21
You could be right.
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Everything I’ve read says MSU is the one to beat 🤷🏻♂️
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Everything I’ve read says MSU is the one to beat 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah that’s what I’ve heard as well.
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Just in…..
https://twitter.com/armchairillini/status/1445884315511017473?s=21
https://twitter.com/rforan23/status/1445759180153888772?s=21
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Am I supposed to have a boner?
Should I be aroused by this, or nah?
Well, he is down to 9 schools.
I think you should post on his Twitter feed. Fawn over him like a real fan.
Something Jobu-ish, though, to break him in.
Like "if you don't come here you can go fuck yourself you little fcking bitch".
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Fears and Boswell and families joke that they could be Dee/Deron 2.0 for the ILLINI. That with Taylor and a BIG and we will be loaded again 2023 and past....
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Doesn’t look like it on this one. It appears Michigan already filled his spot…
https://twitter.com/rforan23/status/1445470248266731537?s=21
Correct. If we take a 5th commitment in 22 it will most likely be a big.
It was funny AJ Casey list us too since we don't have a spot for him either.
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AJ Casey be lucky to get a ride to DePud
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1456640309350256648
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He’s a stud. Only 15 years old and already one of the top-5 in the state. He’s probably gonna be in top-20 for 2024 when they are finalized. Great get by Underwood and Tim Anderson. Great hire!
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Very promising.
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He’s a stud. Only 15 years old and already one of the top-5 in the state. He’s probably gonna be in top-20 for 2024 when they are finalized. Great get by Underwood and Tim Anderson. Great hire!
Thumbs 👍
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PteZD-wpPTY
If you look at his play even as early as April compared to this one...his advancement in his game is noticeable. He will be a really good if not great fit for us early if we can keep him in the fold.
Now what is the chances Anderson can land Brown for us as well?
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Seeing Ayo playing for the Bulls, the best team they've had since late 90s. Seeing Ayo become an All American under Underwood. This stuff is the real deal.
Great job by the coaches and look forward to seeing Morez play.
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Seems like a Ty Rodgers commitment is on the horizon
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Seems like a Ty Rodgers commitment is on the horizon
Yup. Just got a crystal ball. Would be a huge get for the program.
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Saw the opportunity for early PT last night.
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And here you go. Welcome aboard Ty Rodgers! Huge get for the staff and program. He’s signed too.
https://twitter.com/ty_rodgers20/status/1461031666693120002?s=21
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pretty good class we have lined up
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Great. 247 says #1 recruits in Il, Ohio and North Carolina.
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Incredible job by the staff. Keep it going!
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Now we need a full-court press for Fears and Taylor.
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Now we need a full-court press for Fears and Taylor.
And practice breaking a full-court press.
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And practice breaking a full-court press.
No shit. I figured with Frazier (6th year guard) and Curbelo’s handles, we’d have no issues, but man that Marquette game was UGLY!!
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To be fair, Frazier and Curbelo had extended absences from play leading up to the Ark St game and played a unique defense in front of a hostile crowd for the first time in 18 months for Frazier and the first time ever for Belo. Without our best player to throw it to when shit got hairy.
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Great job!
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Just love the excuses. Maybe a Top 10 team that cannot handle pressure defense (uh, there should be plenty of film on it if Underachiever actually cared to watch it and show it to the kids) and people living in Milwaukee isn't a Top 10 team? Is this Scorat Bored?
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Great. 247 says #1 recruits in Il, Ohio and North Carolina.
And to think some were freaking out over the OA/Chin running away to Kentucky....this new staff with BU is pulling them in...NEED a Big though.
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Illinois was ranked in that range before Trent, Curbelo, Hutch, and Kofi went down. But you’re right they’re clearly not a top 10 team with no Kofi, Hutch, Curbelo returning from sitting around on concussion protocol only to land on his head again late in MU game, and Frazier missing a lot of time with his shoulder injury. When two of your primary ball handlers are banged up and you’re playing a road game for the first time in ages against pressure D, it’s not unfathomable some shit can happen. I was concerned before this game for these very reasons. Guess no one else has been paying attention which is why I’m AOTC.
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Illinois was ranked in that range before Trent, Curbelo, Hutch, and Kofi went down. But you’re right they’re clearly not a top 10 team with no Kofi, Hutch, Curbelo returning from sitting around on concussion protocol only to land on his head again late in MU game, and Frazier missing a lot of time with his shoulder injury. When two of your primary ball handlers are banged up and you’re playing a road game for the first time in ages against pressure D, it’s not unfathomable some shit can happen. I was concerned before this game for these very reasons. Guess no one else has been paying attention which is why I’m AOTC.
Some on here wanna call it excuses, but it’s actual reality everything you’re saying. It’d be different if we were much healthier and I’d be much more concerned. Lose a game and we’re a terrible program and Underwood is the worst coach in college basketball. 🙄
I’m not happy with the loss either, but it’s just one game and without some key players and some banged up and rusty. It’ll be alright.
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I thought this was the “deepest team” Illinois has ever had? Marquette was ranked #87 preseason Kenpom btw. So, far from a world beater. Just sayin’.
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I thought this was the “deepest team” Illinois has ever had? Marquette was ranked #87 preseason Kenpom btw. So, far from a world beater. Just sayin’.
But Curbelo is apparently the only player who never played in front of a crowd before that game due to COVID. And people in Milwaukee are really mean.
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Those Catholic kids are vicious!
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I'm Ahead of the Straw Man
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Nevertheless, Underachiever had plenty of time and film to prepare the team for Shaka. He failed to do so. Probably too busy shopping at Mens Wearhouse and drinking. (Someone has to do it since ChicagoFan isn't here.)
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hay
how about putting these musings in the game thread you fucking retards
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hay
how about putting these musings in the game thread you fucking retards
Ok, QAnonDan97
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Dain Dainja....possible to replace Kofi next year?
Senior tape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClIhfAa8Mdo
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Can't think of 1 player that didn't play at all at another high D1 team, and then came to Illinois and was a contributor.
This dude from Baylor hasn't played at all there. Clearly Brad is simply fishing, which is fine since every year will be a new team since nobody has to sit out again. Still, its better than letting a scholarship sit open. He can't be worse than Payne
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From 247
EVALUATED 03/08/2019
Jerry Meyer
Jerry Meyer
DIRECTOR OF BASKETBALL SCOUTING
PROJECTION
Second Round
COMPARISON
Marcus Derrickson
GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS
Has a wide, space controlling-frame at 6-9. Conditioning has been an issue in the past. Has nimble feet and a highly skilled game. Good athlete but not overly explosive. Proficient back-to-the-basket scorer who can also face up and shoot or drive from outside. Very comfortable with the basketball and has a feel for passing. Strong rebounder. Defending on perimeter can be a challenge. Good positional interior defender who can also block shots. Should develop into an NBA draft pick.
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We've officially entered the Dainja zone!
https://twitter.com/DDainja/status/1464762278583095299
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We've officially entered the Dainja zone!
https://twitter.com/DDainja/status/1464762278583095299
did he commit or something?
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did he commit or something?
He did.
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Sounds like a project with pretty high ceiling if he develops - glad to have him.
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Can't think of 1 player that didn't play at all at another high D1 team, and then came to Illinois and was a contributor.
This dude from Baylor hasn't played at all there. Clearly Brad is simply fishing, which is fine since every year will be a new team since nobody has to sit out again. Still, its better than letting a scholarship sit open. He can't be worse than Payne
Dunno. Had over 20 P5 offers. Watch that video. A lot to build on there.
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I read Dainja was out his freshman season with an Injury. He doesnt have many minutes this year, but maybe he's still coming back from the injury. I didnt look into it, but it's not like he would be suiting up next week.
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he's a banger, Illininutt will be happy
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Can't think of 1 player that didn't play at all at another high D1 team, and then came to Illinois and was a contributor.
This dude from Baylor hasn't played at all there. Clearly Brad is simply fishing, which is fine since every year will be a new team since nobody has to sit out again. Still, its better than letting a scholarship sit open. He can't be worse than Payne
Looks like that open scholarship was used, this kid has some real talent, has had injuries, so we will see, alot worse could have happened. You are correct no other transfer from high D1 has came in and really contributed, so lets hope DD is the first.
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Crystal Ball for Jeremy Fears
https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Jeremy-Fears-at-La-Lumiere-School-258105/CurrentExpertPredictions/
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Crystal Ball for Jeremy Fears
https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Jeremy-Fears-at-La-Lumiere-School-258105/CurrentExpertPredictions/
Hmmm. What donor is funding the ride at LaLu is the question. $50K a year.
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Hmmm. What donor is funding the ride at LaLu is the question. $50K a year.
who cares, as long as we're getting the top kids in Indiana
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Crystal Ball for Jeremy Fears
https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Jeremy-Fears-at-La-Lumiere-School-258105/CurrentExpertPredictions/
Excellente
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Yep Fears may be next in line.
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who cares, as long as we're getting the top kids in Indiana
I meant is it someone connected to Illinois. You know how the system works. People are not donating to the endowment or scholarship fund for the greater good of developing upstanding young men and women.
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I meant is it someone connected to Illinois. You know how the system works. People are not donating to the endowment or scholarship fund for the greater good of developing upstanding young men and women.
There are plenty of other kids on the roster also. Who's funding them ?
Fears has 21 offers. Do a bunch of donors from different schools pool their backing, or is/are there a donor/donors from just one school and everybody else is in it for show ?
Recruiting is shady. If Fears goes somewhere else, it will be said that school was behind it all.
(https://i.ibb.co/jVps2KM/20211130-151132.png) (https://ibb.co/FsPCMvw)
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https://www.lalumiere.org/tuition-financial-aid
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There are plenty of other kids on the roster also. Who's funding them ?
Fears has 21 offers. Do a bunch of donors from different schools pool their backing, or is/are there a donor/donors from just one school and everybody else is in it for show ?
Recruiting is shady. If Fears goes somewhere else, it will be said that school was behind it all.
(https://i.ibb.co/jVps2KM/20211130-151132.png) (https://ibb.co/FsPCMvw)
No guarantees for any donor and the affiliated schools is my guess. I would think that beyond ante up donors to a LaLu or an AAU team to stay in the game- the larger donors do not get called unless there is real chance to land a kid. Of course there is the shoe money shit always in the background connected to different AAU teams and their schools.
There is also the possibility of benefits flowing via other avenues to and through the AAU team and then the recruit's people eventually benefit as procees moves along.
Again- no guarantees there either. Kids verbal and back out all day. There can kind of be an initiation fee to even allow real or full access to the kid/family to talk or to do unofficial visit depending on how far it gets and what the various demands are.
And it depends on the recruit. Most are probably not really dirty processes. Minimal stuff happens - AAU Team/program support in general for expenses and travel, etc.
The top 50 have a lot of weird shit going on though is my belief. And it mostly is unregulated unless somebody does something really direct and stupid.
Been like this for very long time and the maneuvering to stay ahead of any scrutiny changes. Nobody likes it, but it is the way of the world.
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Hmmm. What donor is funding the ride at LaLu is the question. $50K a year.
I doubt any of the basketball players there have to pay tuition or that it’s even billed to anyone
They are playing the same game the in state Catholic schools do. Have waiver for athletes
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I doubt any of the basketball players there have to pay tuition or that it’s even billed to anyone
They are playing the same game the in state Catholic schools do. Have waiver for athletes
It's not a waiver for athletes. It's "hardship" financial aid.
These fucks have approximately 75-100 of these to use for football and basketball players. They fill out hardship paperwork, and get in the school. That's how they can recruit.
They're not actually, on the record, telling them that they are coming to play basketball. Or football. Or whatever. They're getting a hardship scholarship.
Welcome to high school sports.
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They have both need based and merit based financial aid. I am betting athletes are more likely to receive need based aid. I am guessing merit based aid is not necessarily academic based. Perhaps it could be based on musical, artistic, athletic, or other special talent?
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LaLu looks like a really nice campus and school, and has been around for 60 years.
I agree that the elite basketball players there likely pay little to nothing and receive major scholarship aide. I am guessing that type of opportunity is limited to future players in high revenue college sports and not the girls lacrosse team.
In the end, somebody foots the bill as the school isn't giving it away. I am sure there are a lot of creative gifts made to support the athletic program and a lot of behind the scenes steering.
One would guess in a place like that, there are some comparable opportunities for highly gifted students in other fields of interest.
Some of these prep schools with basketball powerhouses,however, barely resemble a real high school and they have to do unusual maneuvers and affiliations to meet basic scholastic accreditation.
Findlay Prep (DJ Richardson) was started by a car dealership guy. It closed its actual high school years ago and the players continued to live in dorm type thing I believe, and were loosely affiliated with some other school for classwork.
They shut down for good a couple years ago.
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Credible source implies Illinois could probably close the deal with Jeremy Fears deal now, but prefer to wait. Indicates they are still recruiting Fears, but he is their third choice for a '23 pg.
There are concerns about his shot. The other two are better shooters.
Also, chatter he or his family might want guaranteed playing time / starting position.
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Fears to Michigan State. He would’ve committed here it appears, but there was speculation that he and his entourage wanted some guarantees to playing time, starting, etc… that Underwood and staff weren’t willing to do. It sucks losing him, but I wouldn’t make them either, especially if the staff knows Curbelo is likely gonna be here. So 🤷🏻♂️
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33008718/espn-60-junior-recruit-jeremy-fears-commits-michigan-state
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character, not characters
is what Underwood wants
promising playing time for a kid like that is a horrible idea
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Fears to Michigan State. He would’ve committed here it appears, but there was speculation that he and his entourage wanted some guarantees to playing time, starting, etc… that Underwood and staff weren’t willing to do. It sucks losing him, but I wouldn’t make them either, especially if the staff knows Curbelo is likely gonna be here. So 🤷🏻♂️
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33008718/espn-60-junior-recruit-jeremy-fears-commits-michigan-state
Probably didn’t want to deal another Adam Miller/Mark Smith situation again. Not really heartbroken over losing Fears if his camp was making all kind of demands like that.
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I’d much rather have Kylan Boswell barring any drama. Might be a long shot, but he’s from ECI. He’s higher rated.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/243163/kylan-boswell
Also Fears younger brother is better and a possibility because Curbelo might be gone by then. Again as long as there’s no drama. That seems to be a theme regarding almost all recruits these days though lol.
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They like Dai Dai Ames too. Not as highly rated, but can shoot. Good fit with Epps and Harris.
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It will be interesting to see if Izzo guaranteed time? If not, then the Fears choice may just have come down between powers in B1G.
MSU - Good Program, high level of play longterm/good to great recruitment/NCAA selections-progress/HOF Coach
ILL - Good Program, high level of play recently/above average recent recruitment/recent NCAA selections/Coach?
HOF coach and program consistancy may have been the only 2 denominations here....doubt IZZO promised anything though...so if not, and neither team promised then why not choose MSU over ILLINI?
I like what BU and Frazier have been doing so far and I think Sincere will be a great get for us....similiar to Head. Luther not Crandell.
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Fears to Michigan State. He would’ve committed here it appears, but there was speculation that he and his entourage wanted some guarantees to playing time, starting, etc… that Underwood and staff weren’t willing to do. It sucks losing him, but I wouldn’t make them either, especially if the staff knows Curbelo is likely gonna be here. So 🤷🏻♂️
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33008718/espn-60-junior-recruit-jeremy-fears-commits-michigan-state
😂 Derek Piper kiss of death
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https://fightingillini.com/news/2022/1/18/mens-basketball-dainja-joins-fighting-illini.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2rnulFC5nBllg8r0HFDZJ6x--HrEg_LSvkP_Lq2nlxpVK0ojhcwK6_ow4
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This goes through my head every time I see his name.
https://youtu.be/R-FxmoVM7X4
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https://fightingillini.com/news/2022/1/18/mens-basketball-dainja-joins-fighting-illini.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2rnulFC5nBllg8r0HFDZJ6x--HrEg_LSvkP_Lq2nlxpVK0ojhcwK6_ow4
Great. Four 4 stars coming.
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Seems like a very useful addition. Noice.
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This goes through my head every time I see his name.
https://youtu.be/R-FxmoVM7X4
That’s…different.
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This goes through my head every time I see his name.
https://youtu.be/R-FxmoVM7X4
I really enjoy that Electric 6 collection of songs on that one compact disc.
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https://twitter.com/takhtehchianmd/status/1483849818648817670
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Zeb Jackson?
Once offered by Illini and a host of other B1G then schools...good size, good ranking, just not right fit for Howard?
https://247sports.com/player/zeb-jackson-46055107/
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https://247sports.com/Article/Kylan-Boswell-official-visits-Arizona-Illinois-UNLV-commitment-basketball-recruiting-183226421/
Boswell, I think ends up with us IF he reclassifies...Paired with Curbelo next year? If he doesn't reclass, I think he goes to Arizona.
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A pretty big deal here. Maybe Illinois gets involved. Now that Boswell and Fears are gone, this would be one helluva third option! Miss in two and still get a 5-star kid.
https://twitter.com/brandon_wildman/status/1500520681313914884?s=21
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Shots fired! 😂🤣😂🤣
Underwood’s a fucking gangsta!
https://twitter.com/jwerner247/status/1500677377717944323?s=21
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Any recruits mentioned as being there for Senior night?
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Shots fired! 😂🤣😂🤣
Underwood’s a fucking gangsta!
https://twitter.com/jwerner247/status/1500677377717944323?s=21
golds! golds! golds! golds! golds!
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Shots fired! 😂🤣😂🤣
Underwood’s a fucking gangsta!
https://twitter.com/jwerner247/status/1500677377717944323?s=21
I actually like this one.
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A pretty big deal here. Maybe Illinois gets involved. Now that Boswell and Fears are gone, this would be one helluva third option! Miss in two and still get a 5-star kid.
https://twitter.com/brandon_wildman/status/1500520681313914884?s=21
That would be awesome.
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Wouldve been nice if illinois could've got Schutt. Dude is going nuts in this gm so far. Another player from the state illinois fails to get.
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absolutely no reason at all for this team even to be 1A. They have won every single tournament game by a running clock prior to the start of the 4th quarter.
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they played almost nothing but 3 and 4A schools this year.
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Lots of dumb Illini fans on Twitter wanting and asking Adam Miller to come back. There’s no way Underwood let’s that happen lol. I don’t want him after he left. It’s a culture thing. You’re either 100% in or gtfo imo. I don’t even feel bad the situation he got himself in. He had to know Wade was a bad dude, right?!
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Lots of dumb Illini fans on Twitter wanting and asking Adam Miller to come back. There’s no way Underwood let’s that happen lol. I don’t want him after he left. It’s a culture thing. You’re either 100% in or gtfo imo. I don’t even feel bad the situation he got himself in. He had to know Wade was a bad dude, right?!
Yeah let's bring back an entitled dude coming off an acl tear that didn't do shit here.... fuckin retards
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Because……..
Illinois.
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Time to seal the deal
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1507457815203434496
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Time to seal the deal
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1507457815203434496
Yes! 🙏🏼
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Time to seal the deal
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1507457815203434496
This would be a good thing.
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For what it's worth,
Kyle Tucker, who writes for The Athletic and covers Kentucky basketball, believes it is a battle between Illinois and Washington for Skyy Clark.
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Have to imagine it helps being able to point to what Ayo is doing in the league.
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Adam Miller is officially in the portal again…
https://twitter.com/travisbranham_/status/1508909723952848907?s=21&t=4w4LbntucEq1PdWTTnuVRA
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Adam Miller is officially in the portal again…
https://twitter.com/travisbranham_/status/1508909723952848907?s=21&t=4w4LbntucEq1PdWTTnuVRA
The signs are pointing to a return
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The signs are pointing to a return
yay?
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yay?
(https://forum.quartertothree.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/a/4a595bf08f943d44e32cd5a3d35a12398979a755.gif)
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The signs are pointing to a return
Yeah, the same people that thought EJ Liddell was going to play for Illinois. Some people are just dumb
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Hope he goes elsewhere, but Wolfie is officially leaving LSU.
Timberlake from Memphis might not be a bad add though?
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Can someone smarter than I find out if any player has ever transferred back to same program under same coach he left? After being a freshman starter?
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Can someone smarter than I find out if any player has ever transferred back to same program under same coach he left? After being a freshman starter?
Nope and it’s insane to think about
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What’s post ACL-tear Adam Miller’s ceiling? I know more and more guys come all the way back from it but plenty don’t come all the way back. He will be junior aged next season and will likely get a waiver. I’m sure if this is even a remote possibility Brad will do the research, but man it’s such a weird situation.
My concern is that he ends up like a DMW three and D guy which was more or less what he was last year before the injury…but he was a true frosh on a pretty loaded team. Had he not torn his ACL I think his ceiling was a fair amount higher than that but he never gave me any vibes that he was a stud in the making.
But then again taking a year off and maturing and developing and watching a lot of basketball could have benefits that outweigh the negatives of his knee doesn’t end up holding him back.
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Kofi has to make a decision on the NBA draft by mid April. If he enters again he can’t come back to college.
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1509260539112869894
Curbelo already drawing a ton of interest. As he should.
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Can someone smarter than I find out if any player has ever transferred back to same program under same coach he left? After being a freshman starter?
Jimmy Whitt was a part time starter and rotation player at Arkansas. Ok, different coach.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jimmy-whitt-1.html
Boomerang transfers are fairly common. Dunno about same coach & freshman starter.
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Brazile to Arkansas....Mussleman stocking up again.
Dajaun Gordon now in the portal
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On a side note in the portal Texas Rio Grande Valley has 10 players transferring out, I hear LSU needs some help? 10 players that is crazy on any level.
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They almost beat us maybe they have someone who can help
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Wahab from Maryland in portal....??? Possible?
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Congrats to Harris!!
https://www.news5cleveland.com/sports/local-sports/student-athlete-of-the-week/student-athlete-of-the-week-sencire-harris-helps-bring-home-st-vincent-st-marys-10th-title
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Best player in Ohio headed to “Big Ten power Illinois”
Love it.
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We can’t lose a kid to Washington, can we?
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Best player in Ohio headed to “Big Ten power Illinois”
Love it.
Yeah, it’s been a while since we’ve heard that.
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We can’t lose a kid to Washington, can we?
ever been to Seattle?
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ever been to Seattle?
Actually, no. It’s on my list.
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Would guess his primary interest is basketball, though. Play a couple years in college then get paid professionally.
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That program has sunk even further than ours did.
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Would guess his primary interest is basketball, though. Play a couple years in college then get paid professionally.
I would hope so, hopefully we close the deal
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FWIW, heard this irt TSJ. He has 3 years of credits, but UIUC will only accept 2 toward a degree. Makes no sense to me, but some rule that the last 2 must be earned here? If true, I think he'd be looking elsewhere.
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FWIW, heard this irt TSJ. He has 3 years of credits, but UIUC will only accept 2 toward a degree. Makes no sense to me, but some rule that the last 2 must be earned here? If true, I think he'd be looking elsewhere.
Yeah he’s be a done deal already if they all transferred from what I hear.
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For those of us who don’t follow this relentlessly, who is TSJ.
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For those of us who don’t follow this relentlessly, who is TSJ.
I don't follow it either, but I'm guessing Terrance Shannon Jr.
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Yeah, I just figured it out. Didn’t realize he was a junior.
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why would we have even recruited him then
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why would we have even recruited him then
Never really sure how those college credits might transfer over until you try. If they can find ANY way to get him here, they will I’m sure.
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I assume we knew he was a junior.
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Terrance Shannon Jr.
He played 3 years at Texas Tech. He will be a 4th year senior in eligibility. Honor student in hs.
Word is it would be a done deal, but there was a hang up over credits. Now hearing this might possibly because UIUC requires the last 60 hrs of a degree to be earned here. So only 60 transfer credits would apply. None of this is verified. Just chatter. No idea how many hrs he earned at TT.
This is a unique situation. When is the last time we had a senior transfer in and be eligible immediately?
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I refuse to believe we’ll miss on Shannon because college credits don’t transfer. That sounds ridiculous in 2022.
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I refuse to believe we’ll miss on Shannon because college credits don’t transfer. That sounds ridiculous in 2022.
If a school effectively declined to apply 1/3 of my transfer credits toward my bachelor's degree; then I might look elsewhere.
OTOH, I can understand why UI might require a minimum of 60 out of the 120 hours be completed at UI.
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I am confused. Is this a Univ of Illinois policy?
Otherwise no student athlete who had already completed 3 years at any college could transfer to another college if you had to be able to complete your last 2 years of a bachelors degree at the institution you transfer to.
Charlie Moore was in 4 programs as was JCL.
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Supposedly it's a UI policy, yes.
I truly struggle to buy it.
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If Underwood can’t get him in over that then we have to assume his penis is a good 2-3 inches less than advertised.
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What was Plummer’s academic situation?
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Grad student.
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UIUC.
§ 3-801 CREDIT REQUIREMENTS FOR DEGREES
First Bachelor’s Degree
In addition to specific course and scholastic average requirements, each candidate for a bachelor’s degree from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign must earn at least 60 semester hours of University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign credit, of which at least 21 hours must be 300 or 400 level courses of University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign credit.
https://studentcode.illinois.edu/article3/part8/3-801/
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That’s just idiotic if they don’t waive that rule for Shannon.
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OK, the UI policy is fine. Who is to say he doesn't enroll with intention to be at Illinois for two years to get a degree? He spent 3 years at TT which is an accredited university. He decides to now change majors like a million other kids.
There is no requirement you have to finish in 4 years. He also gets a Covid year so has 2 years of eligibility left.
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Terrance Shannon Jr.
He played 3 years at Texas Tech. He will be a 4th year senior in eligibility. Honor student in hs.
Word is it would be a done deal, but there was a hang up over credits. Now hearing this might possibly because UIUC requires the last 60 hrs of a degree to be earned here. So only 60 transfer credits would apply. None of this is verified. Just chatter. No idea how many hrs he earned at TT.
This is a unique situation. When is the last time we had a senior transfer in and be eligible immediately?
Sounds completely on brand for a school more concerned about B1G Regular Season Championships and admitting fucking Communists over Illinois high school students.
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When did PAMan become such a raging dumbass?
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When did PAMan become such a raging dumbass?
He’s always been…
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When did PAMan become such a raging dumbass?
If you don't think both are true, you aren't paying attention.
My kid just got in. But there is plenty of fucking bitching going on out there how the admissions office has told schools they are not allowing many Illinois HS students this year. (As they focus on fucking Chinese communist scumbags.) The Illinois brain drain continues because top kids are not going to ISU, NIU, WIU, etc. if they cannot get into Illinois. It is the same mentality that focuses on B1G Regular Season titles here.
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So dumb. Just unfathomably dumb.
And let’s not forget racist.
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So dumb. Just unfathomably dumb.
And let’s not forget racist.
Calling them Chinese communists is racist?
You prefer allowing Chinese communists in the flagship university over Illinois kids. Got it.
Not like those fuckers are going to donate to the U when they go back and steal all our tech, etc.
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Calling people from China coming to UIUC for an education scumbags because they’re Chinese is self evidently racist yes
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Calling people from China coming to UIUC for an education scumbags because they’re Chinese is self evidently racist yes
Chinese communists, Spark. Are they communists or not?
And yes, they are fucking scumbags because they, the kids coming here, are benefitting from slave labor.
But hey, you have to be loving life right now. Illinois kids getting the shaft for Chinese commies and Illinois won a B1G Regular Season title. All good in Spark World.
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The kids coming to UIUC? No idea if they’re into communism.
You called them scumbags. Because they’re from China.
Your ridiculous flailing isn’t quite landing how you think it is. You sound like a racist child.
To be clear, you think anyone who has benefitted from atrocities committed by the government of the country they live in is a scumbag? You, a white male american?
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The kids coming to UIUC? No idea if they’re into communism.
You called them scumbags. Because they’re from China.
Your ridiculous flailing isn’t quite landing how you think it is. You sound like a racist child.
JFC. You are doing what you claim Tempo does all the time. They are fucking beneficiaries of a corrupt system that relies on slave labor, etc. Yeah, fuck the Chinese commies and their kids. And fuck the dumbasses in Champaign for sucking up to them over Illinois kids. But you are satisfied with it and B1G Regular Season championships. Way to aim high, Spark.
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And, to your edit, as opposed to the fucking Chinese commies, the USA is, despite its blunders, remains a force for good in the world (relatively speaking). Ask the Taiwanese what they think.
And you really think the Chinese commies are just letting anyone who wants to go to Champaign?
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JFC. You are doing what you claim Tempo does all the time. They are fucking beneficiaries of a corrupt system that relies on slave labor, etc. Yeah, fuck the Chinese commies and their kids. And fuck the dumbasses in Champaign for sucking up to them over Illinois kids. But you are satisfied with it and B1G Regular Season championships. Way to aim high, Spark.
So are you you fucking moron
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And, to your edit, as opposed to the fucking Chinese commies, the USA is, despite its blunders, remains a force for good in the world (relatively speaking). Ask the Taiwanese what they think.
And you really think the Chinese commies are just letting anyone who wants to go to Champaign?
Lol
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I gotta admit, I did not see the “PAMan turns openly racist” twist coming
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So are you you fucking moron
Lay down noted.
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I gotta admit, I did not see the “PAMan turns openly racist” twist coming
Didn't see you turning into Tempo. Must be off your meds.
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Coming after someone self righteously because they’re NOT openly racist. Hahaha good lord
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Lay down noted.
“Chinese people are fucking scumbags! They benefit from slave labor
Sent from my iPhone”
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“Chinese people are fucking scumbags! They benefit from slave labor
Sent from my iPhone”
Never owned an iPhone. My phones made in South Korea.
Suck on that one.
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JFC. You are doing what you claim Tempo does all the time. They are fucking beneficiaries of a corrupt system that relies on slave labor, etc. Yeah, fuck the Chinese commies and their kids. And fuck the dumbasses in Champaign for sucking up to them over Illinois kids. But you are satisfied with it and B1G Regular Season championships. Way to aim high, Spark.
Then we are also 'beneficiaries' of a corrupt system. We get to go to Walmart and buy the junk their cheap labor makes. In addition, those 'scumbags' hold 14% of our debt, second only to Japan.
It's also a bit shallow to downplay the regular season conference championships in favor the hype of March Madness. I am not downplaying the latter either.
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It’s great to see ThePAMan’s openly racist takes/views on here because he doesn’t agree with someone, so he has a meltdown and acts like a child. Yet he’s the first one to call someone out for such things and act all righteous. That doesn’t even mention him making completely horse shit up about other people and trying to personally attack them on here. Guess other people are just now seeing his true colors. It’s marvelous 😂
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Then we are also 'beneficiaries' of a corrupt system. We get to go to Walmart and buy the junk their cheap labor makes. In addition, those 'scumbags' hold 14% of our debt, second only to Japan.
It's also a bit shallow to downplay the regular season conference championships in favor the hype of March Madness. I am not downplaying the latter either.
No one is downplaying the latter. We all want tournament success. But people like PAMan need to whine about something, so they choose people who might be happy to have a program that wins conference titles.
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Admissions of foreign students is something I have heard discussed, but I dunno know much. I do favor trade with China. Probably, UIUC likes the out of state tuition? Does the state provide adequate funding? Feds?
I suppose Shannon could use his covid year here and graduate in 5 years. But he might prefer to get the bachelor's degree in 4 years and use the 5th toward a master's.
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A good chunk of the blame for UIUC admissions’ policy should go to the Governor’s office and state legislature. 20+years of disinvestment in higher education that was started by Blago and compounded by Rauner.
https://www.sj-r.com/story/opinion/columns/guest/2021/11/05/higher-education-illinois-hurt-inequitable-funding/6290888001/
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Then we are also 'beneficiaries' of a corrupt system. We get to go to Walmart and buy the junk their cheap labor makes. In addition, those 'scumbags' hold 14% of our debt, second only to Japan.
It's also a bit shallow to downplay the regular season conference championships in favor the hype of March Madness. I am not downplaying the latter either.
You are absolutely right that we love cheap Chinese slave labor produced shit. We are enabling the commie bastards while also educating them on how to further control their people.
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And Spark is fine with that because he lives in the USA and has been educated, so fuck everyone else. Racist my ass. Does not have an opinion on the admission policy. Fucktard, selfish fucktard
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And Spark is fine with that because he lives in the USA and has been educated, so fuck everyone else. Racist my ass. Does not have an opinion on the admission policy. Fucktard, selfish fucktard
Lol what a meltdown from you today, yikes
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Lol what a meltdown from you today, yikes
You are a real piece of work. Acting like you care. Still crying about Jobu's dead bit. You are a fraud.
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Could be - but I'm not an openly racist middle school shithead, so I'm cool with it.
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Could be - but I'm not an openly racist middle school shithead, so I'm cool with it.
Completely selfish fraudulent shithead is what you are. Fake. All for show.
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Go commit a hate crime you moron.
Seriously, what the fuck happened to you? You were a good, rational dude when HQ disappeared. This board has ruined you somehow. Now you're a miserable, bitter racist idiot.
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Go commit a hate crime you moron.
Seriously, what the fuck happened to you? You were a good, rational dude when HQ disappeared. This board has ruined you somehow. Now you're a miserable, bitter racist idiot.
You have been completely disingenuous during this whole discussion. Really sad.
It does not appear you even know what racism is except to use it as a buzz word. Absolutely ridiculous and completely dishonest.
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I'm pretty sure if you call somebody a scumbag because of their race, that's racist - but hey, you probably know better.
I don't mind you thinking I'm being 'disingenuous'. I've become pretty good at ignoring the views bad, racist people have about me.
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I'm pretty sure if you call somebody a scumbag because of their race, that's racist - but hey, you probably know better.
I don't mind you thinking I'm being 'disingenuous'. I've become pretty good at ignoring the views bad, racist people have about me.
Intellectually vacant fits you too. Sad.
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Just not worried what an open racist thinks of me.
There was a time, before you apparently lost your fucking mind, when you were someone whose opinion I respected quite a bit. But man, whatever happened to you is not good.
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"It’s speed dating today. That’s what the portal is. We lost a young man last year, we couldn’t get him into school, we couldn’t take him. Ten minutes later, it was on Twitter where he was going to school. That’s speed dating. You have to have your core values." -- Brad Underwood
Kyler Edwards played 3 years for Texas Tech. He committed to Houston on April 14. Alfonso Plummer committed to UI on April 17.
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"It’s speed dating today. That’s what the portal is. We lost a young man last year, we couldn’t get him into school, we couldn’t take him. Ten minutes later, it was on Twitter where he was going to school. That’s speed dating. You have to have your core values." -- Brad Underwood
Kyler Edwards played 3 years for Texas Tech. He committed to Houston on April 14. Alfonso Plummer committed to UI on April 17.
Interesting.
Looks like he had a pretty good game against us.
(https://i.ibb.co/QrqZQ9S/Screenshot-20220403-114011.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kQrpBKb)
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Didn't see you turning into Tempo. Must be off your meds.
Hmmmm
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Oh no
https://twitter.com/247HSHoops/status/1510723014412980225
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Oh no
https://twitter.com/247HSHoops/status/1510723014412980225
The comments might say something.
Not much mention of this, and it's a dead period ?
Leave your cup on tho.
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If you don't think both are true, you aren't paying attention.
My kid just got in. But there is plenty of fucking bitching going on out there how the admissions office has told schools they are not allowing many Illinois HS students this year. (As they focus on fucking Chinese communist scumbags.) The Illinois brain drain continues because top kids are not going to ISU, NIU, WIU, etc. if they cannot get into Illinois. It is the same mentality that focuses on B1G Regular Season titles here.
It's laying it on too thick to call the kids scumbags. It's not their fault their country is a communist-in-name kleptocracy, or that our public education system fails us. They're just eating what's been served to them, same as me and most of us.
Don't worry. The Indiana/MSU/Wisc/Iowa/Marquette/ND/etc. attendees will 90% be back in Chicago in 4 years, anyway. But it's a shame that ISU has an image problem with applicants good enough to get into UIUC.
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I think there’s something to be said about those kids directly benefitting from their kleptocracy in the form of material wealth and educational opportunities far in excess of the vast majority of their peers. They aren’t sending their peasant kids over here. They’re more in line with the Trump and Biden kids.
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I think there’s something to be said about those kids directly benefitting from their kleptocracy in the form of material wealth and educational opportunities far in excess of the vast majority of their peers. They aren’t sending their peasant kids over here. They’re more in line with the Trump and Biden kids.
I really didn't think this would be the controversial part of the take....
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I really didn't think this would be the controversial part of the take....
"This March, U.S. intelligence officials briefed about 70 college administrators of the American Council on Education, according to university participants. The officials said the presidents should increase oversight of Chinese researchers and avoid research funding from Chinese firms like Huawei."
"Numerous universities, including the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Stanford University and the University of Illinois, have already cut off research collaborations with Huawei."
"The Chinese intelligence services strategically use every tool at their disposal — including state-owned businesses, students, researchers and ostensibly private companies — to systematically steal information and intellectual property," FBI Director Christopher Wray said at the Council on Foreign Relations in April."
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/28/728659124/fbi-urges-universities-to-monitor-some-chinese-students-and-scholars-in-the-u-s
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I really didn't think this would be the controversial part of the take....
I just got caught up. I think the controversial part is you calling people scumbags. I might be wrong, tho.
Anyway, wow. What a shitshow.
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Skyy Clark getting a few crystal balls for Illinois.
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Skyy Clark getting a few crystal balls for Illinois.
Yeah it’s a done deal.
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Skyy Clark getting a few crystal balls for Illinois.
Where?
https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Skyy-Clark-at-Montverde-Academy-267489/CurrentExpertPredictions/
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Yeah it’s a done deal.
Not at all
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Where?
https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Skyy-Clark-at-Montverde-Academy-267489/CurrentExpertPredictions/
You literally linked everything from before he decommitted from Kentucky. That stuff is from 2020 😂 yes, it’s a done deal. Relax. Getting good players to Illinois is a GOOD thing! Act like it.
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Where?
https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Skyy-Clark-at-Montverde-Academy-267489/CurrentExpertPredictions/
Future casts
Mar 6, 2022 — Four-star guard Skyy Clark has decommitted from Kentucky.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/skyy-clark-decommits-from-kentucky
Doug Bucshon
03/16/22 7:10 pm
Reliable sources with knowledge of his recruitment are confident that Illinois is the favorite to land Clark.
Travis Graf
04/04/22 8:18 pm
Rob Cassidy
04/05/22 2:58 pm
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/skyy-clark-236851#forecast-reasons
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Future casts
Mar 6, 2022 — Four-star guard Skyy Clark has decommitted from Kentucky.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/skyy-clark-decommits-from-kentucky
Doug Bucshon
03/16/22 7:10 pm
Reliable sources with knowledge of his recruitment are confident that Illinois is the favorite to land Clark.
Travis Graf
04/04/22 8:18 pm
Rob Cassidy
04/05/22 2:58 pm
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/skyy-clark-236851#forecast-reasons
If I’ve learned anything in recruiting, never trust anything Bucshon, Sturdy, or Piper say
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If I’ve learned anything in recruiting, never trust anything Bucshon, Sturdy, or Piper say
I must be confused. I didn't realize Travis Graf and Rob Cassidy were Sturdy and Piper.
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We have had a home visit and are supposed to have a campus visit, correct?
Sounds like we are in the mix.
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Update on Brandon Murray…
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1511868058658349057?s=21&t=-HDFb8C4_zxiZ_qSCC6b0g
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Another familiar Illinois native we're pursuing in the portal…
https://twitter.com/itsantwright/status/1512069588070010884?s=21&t=kDwkcKBJHtfslXd5vJwonA
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Decision time!
https://twitter.com/skyyclark/status/1512097639843700742
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Another familiar Illinois native we're pursuing in the portal…
https://twitter.com/itsantwright/status/1512069588070010884?s=21&t=kDwkcKBJHtfslXd5vJwonA
According to announcement on name portal....he has been rumored to us and others since first semester....way to keep it quiet.
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According to announcement on name portal....he has been rumored to us and others since first semester....way to keep it quiet.
That's the dude who played at Fenwick right?
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That's the dude who played at Fenwick right?
yes...https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/bryce-hopkins
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Hopkins
Ramey
Nolley
Shannon
Kepnang
Griffin
All and many more I am sure that ILLINI offered in the past....available and all 4.0 or higher ranked.
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Welcome aboard, Skyy!
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Fuck yeah!
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Great. A 5 star from Montverde, by way of a blue blood.
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Lol geeks getting excited about a Kentucky reject coming off an ACL 😂
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Lol geeks getting excited about a Kentucky reject coming off an ACL 😂
Well, you were wrong and Buschon was right.
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Lol geeks getting excited about a Kentucky reject coming off an ACL 😂
Yet your dumbass thought he was never coming here
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If a 5 star Montverde or IMG guy wants to come to C-U, I'm good.
The 2021 NBA draft.
"Thursday night's NBA Draft was quite the testimonial for Montverde Academy (Montverde, Fla.) as the high school basketball powerhouse became the first team in history to produce four first round picks in the same draft class."
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Lol geeks getting excited about a Kentucky reject coming off an ACL 😂
And you’re supposed to be an Illini fan. Smh
I told you it was a done deal. Now get the fuck outta here with your negativity.
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Yet your dumbass thought he was never coming here
I know. It doesn’t make much sense unless it’s an Alex Legion situation
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This is great news.
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This is great news.
Dominic can’t stand it 😂
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I know. It doesn’t make much sense unless it’s an Alex Legion situation
Not even close.
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I figured Hopkins would be declaring for the draft.
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It’s concerning that he didn’t have more elite level interest but the kid is a big body and has a well rounded game. Don’t think we then down guys like this.
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It’s concerning that he didn’t have more elite level interest but the kid is a big body and has a well rounded game. Don’t think we then down guys like this.
Former Top 50 kid who might want to come here? Sounds good to me.
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33692876/skyy-clark-no-25-prospect-espn-100-join-illinois-fighting-illini-men-basketball-team
#25 according to ESPN
some highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTg_VqYaqY
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It’s concerning that he didn’t have more elite level interest but the kid is a big body and has a well rounded game. Don’t think we then down guys like this.
One month and one day after requesting a release from his Letter of Intent to the University of Kentucky, five-star point guard Skyy Clark announced he has flipped his pledge and committed to the University of Illinois. Clark chose the Illini in a Thursday decision aired live on ESPNU at the State Champions Invitational over finalists Louisville, USC, Tennessee, Maryland and Washington.
The No. 5 point guard prospect in the 2022 class according to the 247Sports Composite rankings, Clark originally committed to Kentucky in October 2020 over Memphis, North Carolina and UCLA. He then signed with the Wildcats in November 2021 before requesting, and receiving, his release to explore other options.
With Kentucky, Clark may have seen the writing on the wall that he may have been entering into a role off the bench to start his career. UK is expected to bring back starting point guard Sahvir Wheeler and is enrolling five-star combo guard Cason Wallace, a top-10 prospect who will likely start right away in Lexington.
At Illinois, though, Clark likely lands in a perfect spot to step in and contribute. Starting point guard Andre Curbelo recently entered the transfer portal and its senior-heavy backcourt of Trent Frazier and Alfonso Plummer are all likely gone, too, which should pave the way for him to walk into heavy minutes in a guard-friendly system under coach Brad Underwood.
thats pretty elite level interest
Tim Anderson was a huge factor in getting him here, don't down play this, this is a huge get with Curbelo leaving
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I meant since his decommit
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This is great news.
Really great news! Huge get.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPy3SdhXMAIGdwx?format=jpg&name=large)
Our strength and conditioning coach is an elite recruiter now ;D
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Who's responsible for the scholarship grid around here? ;D
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Who's responsible for the scholarship grid around here? ;D
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17bU0wNmoZ2ybG9Zi23D6w2sWWeT4e2v6icCxNJQEIxQ/htmlview
Credit to @UIHoopsRecruits on Twitter
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Cool, thanks.
Morez Johnson? Hafta google that'n.
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Cool, thanks.
Morez Johnson? Hafta google that'n.
https://247sports.com/player/morez-johnson-46115307/
Top 40 right now.
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Cool, thanks.
Morez Johnson? Hafta google that'n.
He's a baller
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This is so much more fun than the Bruce/Groce eras.
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We shall see. He tore both his ACL and meniscus, with all his hype being predicated to what he did before that. Rehabilitating this type of injury from the 90s compared to today has improved in leaps and bounds but is no guarantee. It certainly took a chunk of athleticism out of DaMonte's game.
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This is so much more fun than the Bruce/Groce eras.
Yes.
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We shall see. He tore both his ACL and meniscus, with all his hype being predicated to what he did before that. Rehabilitating this type of injury from the 90s compared to today has improved in leaps and bounds but is no guarantee. It certainly took a chunk of athleticism out of DaMonte's game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTg_VqYaqY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTg_VqYaqY)
This is when he came back this year. He has great looking stroke.
Did have a nice block toward the end. We will see.
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Reminds me of JCL. Nice stroke but lacks the athleticism to break anyone down off the dribble.
Guy’s ceiling looks like maybe Feliz with a better 3 point stroke. Or Tracy Abrams. Stocky, not quick, not much of a leaper combo guard
I can see why Kentucky cut him loose after his injury. He reminds me of Boswell but with far less explosion
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Shocking scouting report. Can’t contain my surprise.
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Reminds me of JCL. Nice stroke but lacks the athleticism to break anyone down off the dribble.
Guy’s ceiling looks like maybe Feliz with a better 3 point stroke. Or Tracy Abrams. Stocky, not quick, not much of a leaper combo guard
I can see why Kentucky cut him loose after his injury. He reminds me of Boswell but with far less explosion
😂 you’re so ignorant. You try so hard.
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Reminds me of JCL. Nice stroke but lacks the athleticism to break anyone down off the dribble.
Guy’s ceiling looks like maybe Feliz with a better 3 point stroke. Or Tracy Abrams. Stocky, not quick, not much of a leaper combo guard
I can see why Kentucky cut him loose after his injury. He reminds me of Boswell but with far less explosion
You are really a fcking basketball moron.
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You are really a fcking basketball moron.
If you are under 6’4 and don’t have quicks to drive by your opponent, then it really caps your upside as a lead guard.
This guy maybe could be similar to Geo Baker where he can score in isolation jump shot mode but isn’t gonna be a PG.
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Reminds me of JCL. Nice stroke but lacks the athleticism to break anyone down off the dribble.
Guy’s ceiling looks like maybe Feliz with a better 3 point stroke. Or Tracy Abrams. Stocky, not quick, not much of a leaper combo guard
I can see why Kentucky cut him loose after his injury. He reminds me of Boswell but with far less explosion
WTF are you talking about? He’s a way better ball handler than jCL and a passer.
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Certainly will need to continue work on his recovery and rehab, but this kid had extremely high level athleticism before his injury. I am sure they have a plan for him already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtolT-yvrss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtolT-yvrss)
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Rich McBride as a comp? Stocky slow guard with a nice form on somewhat of a set shot 3.
If you’re comparing body types, the McBride is a good comp
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Why do idiots insist on displaying their idiocy?
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Skyy looks to have a little J. Kidd flair in him....good size, outstanding passer, average to above athleticism...PG and SG skills....not saying he is Kidd, just his game.
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Current Scholarship Grid shows us with 1 open, 2 open with Kofi leaving?
Who do we target if Kofi stays? Incoming class is balanced, talented and I think our weakest position now becomes PF with Skyy/Epps and current players helping on handling the ball.
Do we target a PF in the portal or take another freshman or carry over?
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From Sophomore year.
He is a player. Will start from Day 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBHqHy0cx7Y&t=4s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBHqHy0cx7Y&t=4s)
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Current Scholarship Grid shows us with 1 open, 2 open with Kofi leaving?
Who do we target if Kofi stays? Incoming class is balanced, talented and I think our weakest position now becomes PF with Skyy/Epps and current players helping on handling the ball.
Do we target a PF in the portal or take another freshman or carry over?
You take Brandon Murray from LSU or Shannon Jr if either wanna come.
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Clark seems to have better court vision/awareness that most of our PG recruits do entering college.
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Clark seems to have better court vision/awareness that most of our PG recruits do entering college.
He is a better passer with both hands than anybody we have had coming in since Deron or Frankie.
This kid is a playmaker and scorer.
Hope he has a good summer continuing getting his knee stronger. Should be an impact player right away.
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I seriously can’t see credits not transferring as the reason Shannon doesn’t come here. That would be absurd.
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I seriously can’t see credits not transferring as the reason Shannon doesn’t come here. That would be absurd.
Uh, how long you been following Illini athletics?
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I seriously can’t see credits not transferring as the reason Shannon doesn’t come here. That would be absurd.
I think there was a citation in this thread a few pages back about us losing a junior to Houston last year over the same issue.
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A little bit about Kofi and NIL…
https://www.news-gazette.com/sports/stay-or-go/article_9bd24daf-91ef-5868-acdf-555e9dd5972a.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1gzpdc2xJNcW1WXo4hia2w8IlggS4nS8NwUW3jpipRIRdkc869gCDWJBI#l1tmvjilusj8po539n
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A little bit about Kofi and NIL…
https://www.news-gazette.com/sports/stay-or-go/article_9bd24daf-91ef-5868-acdf-555e9dd5972a.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1gzpdc2xJNcW1WXo4hia2w8IlggS4nS8NwUW3jpipRIRdkc869gCDWJBI#l1tmvjilusj8po539n
good article thanks for sharing
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Illini Guardians sounds like a sham organization. It’s just a fan collective to funnel money directly to players.
NIL is supposed to be about businesses like OSF hiring Kofi to do commercials.
This will end very poorly for Illinois and it’s a good think the DIA is not recognizing them. Absurdly stupid to even go public with it too. Draws unwanted attention
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Illini Guardians sounds like a sham organization. It’s just a fan collective to funnel money directly to players.
NIL is supposed to be about businesses like OSF hiring Kofi to do commercials.
This will end very poorly for Illinois and it’s a good think the DIA is not recognizing them. Absurdly stupid to even go public with it too. Draws unwanted attention
Sounds like the first innovative thing to happen down there in some time. Probably means someone else did it first. That they won't do $100k means they have some work to do if some incoming back up QB who then transferred from tO$U got $1m from his NIL deal.
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Illini Guardians sounds like a sham organization. It’s just a fan collective to funnel money directly to players.
NIL is supposed to be about businesses like OSF hiring Kofi to do commercials.
This will end very poorly for Illinois and it’s a good think the DIA is not recognizing them. Absurdly stupid to even go public with it too. Draws unwanted attention
Strange read that contradicts the article.
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Strange read that contradicts the article.
Yes, he can't read.
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Uh, how long you been following Illini athletics?
It’s not 1977 anymore. Make it happen.
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Sounds like the first innovative thing to happen down there in some time. Probably means someone else did it first. That they won't do $100k means they have some work to do if some incoming back up QB who then transferred from tO$U got $1m from his NIL deal.
I think he was making a semi joke they couldn't do "$100 Million" to make a point about an extreme ask. Mannie Jackson claims he can make $500K.
If that is the case- he should stay unless some team tells him before declaring, they will give him a 2 way and keep him all year.
Bottom line is Kofi will always be a marginal NBA roster guy at best. It is just a different game. Might as well make $500K for sure this year and then see what happens.
Needs to work on passing, face up shooting game, and defensive footwork all summer.
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I think he was making a semi joke they couldn't do "$100 Million" to make a point about an extreme ask. Mannie Jackson claims he can make $500K.
If that is the case- he should stay unless some team tells him before declaring, they will give him a 2 way and keep him all year.
Bottom line is Kofi will always be a marginal NBA roster guy at best. It is just a different game. Might as well make $500K for sure this year and then see what happens.
Needs to work on passing, face up shooting game, and defensive footwork all summer.
I was strictly referring to the Guardian dude's 100k comment and what the Guardians can offer. Granted it just started, but I'm thinking that if Illinois is going to compete with the big boys, they are going to have to have the Guardians be able to step up offer more. Not sure there are enough big local businesses down there that can match what Columbus, for example, has. I just don't see Chicago-area businesses offering Illini players NIL deals at this point. Maybe I'm wrong.
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I was strictly referring to the Guardian dude's 100k comment and what the Guardians can offer. Granted it just started, but I'm thinking that if Illinois is going to compete with the big boys, they are going to have to have the Guardians be able to step up offer more. Not sure there are enough big local businesses down there that can match what Columbus, for example, has. I just don't see Chicago-area businesses offering Illini players NIL deals at this point. Maybe I'm wrong.
This was a concern at the beginning.
Maybe it's time to go to 4 conferences with 16 teams each. Tell the NCAA to get lost, work out tv contracts for football and basketball that will include playoffs and championship games, and the 4 conferences negotiate their own NIL deals that take into account the economic disparities in locations.
The NCAA can have all of the non-revenue sports.
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Yes, he can't read.
What am I missing?
Illini Guardians is a NFP set up by Illini fans to solicit donations. The donations can be directly sent to players and in exchange its very vague how the guy said that the player "must do some charity work" to get the money. Very shady.
This is the type of stuff that the DIA is correct to steer clear of.
Its one thing to having connections with Nike, or even local businesses to promote products, vs outright fans paying players.
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I was strictly referring to the Guardian dude's 100k comment and what the Guardians can offer. Granted it just started, but I'm thinking that if Illinois is going to compete with the big boys, they are going to have to have the Guardians be able to step up offer more. Not sure there are enough big local businesses down there that can match what Columbus, for example, has. I just don't see Chicago-area businesses offering Illini players NIL deals at this point. Maybe I'm wrong.
If NIL is followed to the strict letter of the law, where its businesses paying players to be endorsers/advertisers, then I think what will happen is only a select few players will end up getting 99% of the endorsement money.
But if NIL basically becomes a free for all of fan collectives paying the entire team off - then obviously the schools with the alumni that have the biggest pockets will get the best players. That I think is what Guardians is trying to do and I don't see anyway they can compete vs other teams, and its a game that in the end will not benefit Illinois
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If NIL is followed to the strict letter of the law, where its businesses paying players to be endorsers/advertisers, then I think what will happen is only a select few players will end up getting 99% of the endorsement money.
But if NIL basically becomes a free for all of fan collectives paying the entire team off - then obviously the schools with the alumni that have the biggest pockets will get the best players. That I think is what Guardians is trying to do and I don't see anyway they can compete vs other teams, and its a game that in the end will not benefit Illinois
I think Illinois has just as many, if not more, alums with some big pocket books than any SEC school. It just is a matter of where they spend their money.
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FFS the FBI scandal hasn’t even landed programs in actual hot water with the NCAA. And that was well before the NCAA was strong armed into allowing the NIL stuff. You actually think these guys put together this collective to funnel funds to student athletes without doing any research?
Troll better.
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FFS the FBI scandal hasn’t even landed programs in actual hot water with the NCAA. And that was well before the NCAA was strong armed into allowing the NIL stuff. You actually think these guys put together this cooperative to funnel funds to student athletes without doing any research?
Troll better.
LSU gonna get hammered. Already had to fire their coach. And if it wasn’t going to get Illinois in hot water the DIA wouldn’t be disavowing it
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LSU gonna get hammered. Already had to fire their coach. And if it wasn’t going to get Illinois in hot water the DIA wouldn’t be disavowing it
The DIA is not disavowing it. Learn to read. Idiot.
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I don't know why, but I goggled ....
And, yes, Illini Guardians is one of the 45 programs listed.
https://businessofcollegesports.com/tracker-university-specific-nil-collectives/
"Increasingly, we’ve seen so-called “collectives” organizing to each benefit student athletes at a specific institution. The models vary somewhat, but the basic premise of most is that an alum, or group of alums, band together to form a company whose goal is to provide NIL opportunities to student athletes of that institution. How they find or provide those opportunities is where the models really differ."
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But don’t you know it’s a bad idea according to Dominic. We need to stop this now! 😂
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I was strictly referring to the Guardian dude's 100k comment and what the Guardians can offer. Granted it just started, but I'm thinking that if Illinois is going to compete with the big boys, they are going to have to have the Guardians be able to step up offer more. Not sure there are enough big local businesses down there that can match what Columbus, for example, has. I just don't see Chicago-area businesses offering Illini players NIL deals at this point. Maybe I'm wrong.
He said $100million, not $100k.
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He said $100million, not $100k.
Yeah I thought so as well. It was kind of a joke the guy was making. They can easily do 100k.
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It makes sense and of course the most attractive players will be the ones getting the the most NIL money. Shaq is in every damn commercial these days.
And OSF Healthcare is not going to pay Brandon Lieb major bucks to be a spokesperson, even though I am sure he is a great kid.
But, I am sure they will want to faciltate deals to reach a lot of the players on the roster so it can be seen as a recruiting tool.
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Yeah I thought so as well. It was kind of a joke the guy was making. They can easily do 100k.
(https://www.thedigitalfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Austin-Powers-Mike-Myers-as-Dr-Evil-1200x675.jpg)
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Brandon Murray to Georgetown…
https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1513576225230540800?s=21&t=catWLX1NOopja8ALrYmJiQ
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Brandon Murray to Georgetown…
Chester fron Baltimore couldnt get the Baltimore guy away from D C.
Eh ?
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Ewing has been terrible. GT is a trainwreck.
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I can understand Murray saying it’s home, but man Georgetown and Ewing are BAD! I don’t see him turning things around either and he’s basically joining a sinking ship. Bad basketball move imo.
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Bringing in former LSU assistant Kevin Nickelberry won that for Georgetown.
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Patrick Ewing owns Brad Underwood.
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Patrick Ewing owns Brad Underwood.
You’re a moron.
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You’re a moron.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401082334
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Brandon Murray to Georgetown…
https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1513576225230540800?s=21&t=catWLX1NOopja8ALrYmJiQ
Expected.
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Bringing in former LSU assistant Kevin Nickelberry won that for Georgetown.
This.
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Patrick Ewing owns Brad Underwood.
Actually Underwood owns you like a little bitch. You wake up in the morning and all you are able to think about all day is Underwood. Underwood, Underwood, Underwood. You freak out that the team has had some success the last three years, and is now recruiting better than we have in decades. Too bad for you as we look like we will be a consistently competitive program. Brad has set up a room inside your head rent free bitch.
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I scouted the 4 Illini commits tonight. Took a deep dive into their highlights, athleticism, etc. Here are my findings:
Sencire Harris: awkward long lanky lefty. Very athletic, but high dribbler. He’s a guy that would be best becoming a defensive stopper. Looks very awkward on offense off the dribble.
Jayden Epps: I think he’s great. He’s a Carsen Edwards clone. Good size, explosion, score anywhere. He’s better than any guard Illinois had last year. He should start every game.
Skye Clark- not seeing anything special here. Good stroke from 3. He looks fundamentally sound. For as awkward as Harris looks, Clark is a natural. But lack of athleticism and blow by ability means he’s probably Geo Baker or Rich McBride at the college level.
Ty Rodgers- strong athlete, limited skills. Undersized 4. Ideally he becomes like a Ja’Sean Tate but very few guys can actually make that work. I could see him washing out. Lot of hype over bearing Michigan State for him but I don’t see much skill with him.
So I think Illinois has 1 great All Conference lever player (Epps), a project (Harris), a low ceiling reliable starter (Clark), and a guy that I think belongs at a level lower than the Big 10 (Rodgers).
Interested to hear others opinions
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I don’t think you’re terribly far off on Harris. He has the tools and he’ll improve a lot with coaching. I mostly agree with what you say on Epps and Clark.
Think you’re a ways off on Rodgers. He’s the strong athletic wing we’ve been missing. Plus motor and rebounder. Aggressive mentality. Plus defender. Doesn’t shoot it well yet but handles the ball well. Should be a contributor early on by most accounts.
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According to 24/7 Recruit page on right side is the actual recruiter rankings....Anderson/Frazier in Top 10 and Illini only school with 2 coaches in the top ten!! Congrats Coaches!!
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Based on videos after the injury, the only real similarity to Rich McBride is shooting skill.
Rich was a good to very good athlete who became a below average athlete due to chronic nagging injuries. Clark was an elite athlete who might only be a good to very good athlete due to an acute injury, depending on his long term recovery.
Rich had adequate ball handling and passing skills for a shooting guard. His court awareness was not something that stood out. Clark's handle, passing skills, and court vision are all appear to be well above average if not elite level.
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Based on videos after the injury, the only real similarity to Rich McBride is shooting skill.
Rich was a good to very good athlete who became a below average athlete due to chronic nagging injuries. Clark was an elite athlete who might only be a good to very good athlete due to an acute injury, depending on his long term recovery.
Rich had adequate ball handling and passing skills for a shooting guard. His court awareness was not something that stood out. Clark's handle, passing skills, and court vision are all appear to be well above average if not elite level.
Clark is a very polished lead guard. Not even close to the same type of player as King Rich who was never a great ball handler, penetrator, passer, or playmaker. Barely ever got to the line. Did become a decent defender.
I will be surprised if Clark does not start from Day 1. He did not come here to come off the bench.
https://twitter.com/RP3natural/status/1512201295213604867?s=20&t=vFEE-5mZglvRWX7IkxsrJA (https://twitter.com/RP3natural/status/1512201295213604867?s=20&t=vFEE-5mZglvRWX7IkxsrJA)
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Yeah, not seeing the Rich McBride comparison. Looks like a much more rounded player.
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https://youtu.be/_iiUO4BBNZE
So what in this video “looks like Rich McBride.”
Clark has better handles, better vision, better body control, dunks pretty easily. In other words, doesn’t look like Rich McBride.
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Clark is one of the best ball handlers in his class.
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https://youtu.be/_iiUO4BBNZE
So what in this video “looks like Rich McBride.”
Clark has better handles, better vision, better body control, dunks pretty easily. In other words, doesn’t look like Rich McBride.
Then you didn’t see McBride in HS.
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I don’t give a shit what McBride looked like in HS. I know what he looked like in college though, and that ain’t it.
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Just because McBride dudded out after his foot problems, doesn’t mean Clark is doomed to the same fate.
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I did. In person several times.
Next you will state he looks like Barkley.
You will soon run out of black players you can actually name.
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I don’t give a shit what McBride looked like in HS. I know what he looked like in college though, and that ain’t it.
Clark post injury looks exactly like McBride did in college. Slow with no explosion
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Podz looks a lot like Larry Bird. A tad shorter, less athletic, lacks the elite ball handling and magical passing skills, court presence and awareness not in the same universe, but both are white and can shoot, so good comp. Too bad he is leaving.
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Podz looks a lot like Larry Bird. A tad shorter, less athletic, lacks the elite ball handling and magical passing skills, court presence and awareness not in the same universe, but both are white and and can shoot, so good comp. Too bad he is leaving.
Go home you're drunk
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Go home you're drunk
Was going to say, so basically he does not look like Larry Bird.
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Irony detectors out of tune?
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Irony detectors out of tune?
I thought it was pretty funny. Dumbinic will not get it.
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Clark post injury looks exactly like McBride did in college. Slow with no explosion
Didn’t the kid come back like 6 months after the injury? Even if he never recovers that athleticism his ball skills are better than McBride’s. Shooting, I don’t know. Haven’t seen him play enough.
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He is a very good shooter and scorer from all three levels.
I can't believe people are sucked into a debate with Dumbinic about his ball skills which are arguably better than any guard we have brought in here in 20 years, including Ayo, and whether he is hopelessly crippled for life and he is damaged goods.
But that is the increasing nature of this forum. Give credence to insane troll posters.
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Irony detectors out of tune?
Just a niche.
I did type "tiche" but spell check changed it to niche. And it misspelled Nichi. But I'll leave it at is.
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Podz looks a lot like Larry Bird. A tad shorter, less athletic, lacks the elite ball handling and magical passing skills, court presence and awareness not in the same universe, but both are white and can shoot, so good comp. Too bad he is leaving.
illiniray = Dominic is a match! 😂
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He is a very good shooter and scorer from all three levels.
I can't believe people are sucked into a debate with Dumbinic about his ball skills which are arguably better than any guard we have brought in here in 20 years, including Ayo, and whether he is hopelessly crippled for life and he is damaged goods.
But that is the increasing nature of this forum. Give credence to insane troll posters.
Are you retarded? “Ball skills”….if his ball skills were as good as you say Kentucky would have never dumped him.
It’s pretty easy to evaluate guards.
#1. Can they shoot?
#2. Are they explosive enough to drive by people?
#3. How is there general handle?
Clark will be a poor man’s McCamey IMO.
He’s not a 5 star player after his injury and if you want to know how ACL injuries effect some players - look how it sapped Damonte and Crandall Head.
Skye Clark is slow…hard to be a good college guard if you are slow
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Skyy Clark signing today…
https://twitter.com/skyyclark/status/1514244481393913861?s=21&t=CmxjXiA0vaCFDXvev4K3pg
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#1 yes
#2 yes
#3 very good
So what's the issue, exactly?
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#1 yes
#2 yes
#3 very good
So what's the issue, exactly?
Can’t drive by anyone after his injury.
Best case is he’s McCamey (if “ball skills” are to be believed).
I see worst case McBride or middle case Geo Baker
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I'll wait to see him play before I make any determinations about if he can't drive by anyone lol
I'm sure the coaching staff didn't bother to see if he could do that still
dumb fuck
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Can’t drive by anyone after his injury.
Best case is he’s McCamey (if “ball skills” are to be believed).
I see worst case McBride or middle case Geo Baker
Nichi, stfu 😂
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How is having a McCamey a bad thing? That dude carried a really crappy Weber squad.
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Are you retarded? “Ball skills”….if his ball skills were as good as you say Kentucky would have never dumped him.
It’s pretty easy to evaluate guards.
#1. Can they shoot?
#2. Are they explosive enough to drive by people?
#3. How is there general handle?
Clark will be a poor man’s McCamey IMO.
He’s not a 5 star player after his injury and if you want to know how ACL injuries effect some players - look how it sapped Damonte and Crandall Head.
Skye Clark is slow…hard to be a good college guard if you are slow
3) Here, there, and everywhere.
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Can’t drive by anyone after his injury.
Best case is he’s McCamey (if “ball skills” are to be believed).
I see worst case McBride or middle case Geo Baker
If the range of a player is first team all-conference top 10 PG in school history on one end and 10/2/2 starter for multiple tournament teams/rotation player on a Final Four team on the low end, I offer him a scholarship every single year. No one's claiming he's Jason Kidd.
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Not worth arguing with Dumbinic, guys. He has already proved his lack of BB knowledge and is simply not well.
He has a pretty sad existence being obsessed each day coming on an Illini fan message board ranting in a delusional manner about Underwood and the players and hoping they fail.
Nice life he has carved out for himself.
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Not worth arguing with Dumbinic, guys. He has already proved his lack of BB knowledge and is simply not well.
He has a pretty sad existence being obsessed each day coming on an Illini fan message board ranting in a delusional manner about Underwood and the players and hoping they fail.
Nice life he has carved out for himself.
Sounds ALMOST as bad as ThePAMan’s
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How is having a McCamey a bad thing? That dude carried a really crappy Weber squad.
Dmac was a very underrated Illini, not his fault he played for a shit coach and a shit team, he was a baller
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Dmac was a very underrated Illini, not his fault he played for a shit coach and a shit team, he was a baller
Gotdamn right.
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Dmac was a very underrated Illini, not his fault he played for a shit coach and a shit team, he was a baller
Not only did he play for a shit coach, that shit coach was constantly blaming the team's failures on him.
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Trent Frazier, DMac, and K. Garris probably go down as the three most underrated Illini of all time. Malcolm Hill would be in consideration. Lots of wasted players/talent by Groce and Weber that could be thrown in there for consideration as well.
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Trent Frazier, DMac, and K. Garris probably go down as the three most underrated Illini of all time. Malcolm Hill would be in consideration. Lots of wasted players/talent by Groce and Weber that could be thrown in there for consideration as well.
Malcolm Hill was a pussy. That dude got his numbers in garbage time. Showed up at the end of the game when it wasn't in doubt, then it's oh, shit, Malcolm has 18 and 9. 13 and 6 of those came late.
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Malcolm Hill was a pussy. That dude got his numbers in garbage time. Showed up at the end of the game when it wasn't in doubt, then it's oh, shit, Malcolm has 18 and 9. 13 and 6 of those came late.
Was surprised he got some NBA time this year.
Nunn was the guy off that team who ended up being an effective NBA starter the last two years with excellent numbers until he got hurt this year.
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Malcolm Hill was a pussy. That dude got his numbers in garbage time. Showed up at the end of the game when it wasn't in doubt, then it's oh, shit, Malcolm has 18 and 9. 13 and 6 of those came late.
Now that I think about it I’m a motherfucker too. You’re right.
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Was surprised he got some NBA time this year.
Nunn was the guy off that team who ended up being an effective NBA starter the last two years with excellent numbers until he got hurt this year.
I remember being ridiculed for suggesting Nunn should play PG for us. My logic was get the ball into the hands of your best/athlete player as much as possible.
Then a few years later he was a primary ball handler for a team playing in the NBA Finals.
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I remember being ridiculed for suggesting Nunn should play PG for us. My logic was get the ball into the hands of your best/athlete player as much as possible.
Then a few years later he was a primary ball handler for a team playing in the NBA Finals.
That’s sig worthy
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I remember being ridiculed for suggesting Nunn should play PG for us. My logic was get the ball into the hands of your best/athlete player as much as possible.
Then a few years later he was a primary ball handler for a team playing in the NBA Finals.
Really good athlete, could shoot, could score, and had the tools to guard. Had no right hand when he played for us, though.
Had a helluva year at Oakland and worked hard to get where he is at.
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Take it for what it’s worth 😂
https://www.facebook.com/groups/illinifangroup/permalink/1112551555983560/
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Take it for what it’s worth 😂
https://www.facebook.com/groups/illinifangroup/permalink/1112551555983560/
It's a private FB group. What is the post saying you are referencing?
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Take it for what it’s worth 😂
https://www.facebook.com/groups/illinifangroup/permalink/1112551555983560/
Saw that, too.
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It's a private FB group. What is the post saying you are referencing?
Says Kofi is coming back. Shannon to UM has fallen through, and if he comes here it hinges on Kofi coming back. Lastly, Belo wants to return but is on shaky ground with the staff/team due to how he handled himself.
Edit: And a couple folks say there are rumors floating that Belo got a couple chicks knocked up.
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Says Kofi is coming back. Shannon to UM has fallen through, and if he comes here it hinges on Kofi coming back. Lastly, Belo wants to return but is on shaky ground with the staff/team due to how he handled himself.
Edit: And a couple folks say there are rumors floating that Belo got a couple chicks knocked up.
Shannon to UNC might be a lock as of now, if Bacot returns, which I believe he will. FanSided - https://fansided.com/2022/04/13/unc-transfer-target-terrence-shannon-armando-bacot-return/
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Take it for what it’s worth 😂
https://www.facebook.com/groups/illinifangroup/permalink/1112551555983560/
That’s just a link as far as I can tell. Is it supposed to have information?
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Says Kofi is coming back. Shannon to UM has fallen through, and if he comes here it hinges on Kofi coming back. Lastly, Belo wants to return but is on shaky ground with the staff/team due to how he handled himself.
Edit: And a couple folks say there are rumors floating that Belo got a couple chicks knocked up.
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There were rumors during the season that Curbelo was in the doghouse with staff and team and some of his DNPs were disciplinary.
I guess we will see what plays out.
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Not the only place mentioning a possibility of Curbelo returning, FWIW.
I wouldn't put money on it but it's not out of the question.
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I wouldn't put money on it but it's not out of the question.
I had to check this three times to make sure it wasn’t tempo
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Might be one of the reasons and make sense why he sat so long and was disciplined is because of getting the chicks pregnant.
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I had to check this three times to make sure it wasn’t tempo
LOL.
Not trying to make a hot-take or anything, but a lot of people have totally disregarded the possibility and that's silly IMO.
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I had to check this three times to make sure it wasn’t tempo
Yes, because I’m the only one who allows for other possible outcomes. And yet also, known for my hardline “crazy” opinions.
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Edit: And a couple folks say there are rumors floating that Belo got a couple chicks knocked up.
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Well thats a couple of Belo (w) the belt moves....seeing myself out.... !!!!!!
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Says Kofi is coming back. Shannon to UM has fallen through, and if he comes here it hinges on Kofi coming back. Lastly, Belo wants to return but is on shaky ground with the staff/team due to how he handled himself.
Edit: And a couple folks say there are rumors floating that Belo got a couple chicks knocked up.
Yeah everyone is just dying to come to Illinois 😂
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Yeah everyone is just dying to come to Illinois 😂
After walking around Campustown yesterday, if they like Asian food, it looks to be the place to be.
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Yeah everyone is just dying to come to Illinois 😂
At least some dudes are - we're recruiting very well at the moment, my guess is you've noticed (thus the defensiveness).
I know you aren't a serious person, but still.
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Yeah, 8th in the nation at this point. Clearly, nobody wants to come here.
https://writingillini.com/2022/04/09/illinois-basketball-illini-currently-top-3-4-star-chicago-point-guard/
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https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Season/2022-Basketball/Commits/
I like the fact that the size across the board is good....6'2-6'3-6'3-6'6-6'9....paired with RJ/Goode at 6'7 and Hawk at 6'10...all mobile players. If Kofi comes back and these 4*-5* players can make an impact early on...well, we might have something here.
Would be happy/okay with moving on from Hutch, Grandison might need to come back for some leadership for the youngsters...I think he will.
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I had to check this three times to make sure it wasn’t tempo
hey I was AOTC
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Edit: And a couple folks say there are rumors floating that Belo got a couple chicks knocked up.
Wouldn't be the first PG where ball control was an issue off the court, too.
Surprised he's not going to get the pro money if that's true.
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After walking around Campustown yesterday, if they like Asian food, it looks to be the place to be.
If they like Asians, it’s the place to be. Underwood should recruit the Chinese national team
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Wouldn't be the first PG where ball control was an issue off the court, too.
Well done, Calvin.
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If they like Asians, it’s the place to be. Underwood should recruit the Chinese national team
I do not know about that or which place in Champaign makes the best Orange Chicken.
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Far east grocery
good place for asian groceries
https://www.yelp.com/biz/far-east-champaign
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Far east grocery
good place for asian groceries
https://www.yelp.com/biz/far-east-champaign
They have prepared foods there?
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They have prepared foods there?
Prolly not. They got ingredients to prepare your own.
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I can't speak to Champaign but the Korean grocery stores up here all have great ready-made stuff, as do the places over in the mall in Westmont if that's still there.
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Prolly not. They got ingredients to prepare your own.
And where am I going to cook it when I'm down there? Alexander's Steakhouse?
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And where am I going to cook it when I'm down there? Alexander's Steakhouse?
Somebody tell him it closed…
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And where am I going to cook it when I'm down there? Alexander's Steakhouse?
It closed.
Bring a skillet and a portable gas grill. Cook it on the quad.
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It closed.
Bring a skillet and a portable gas grill. Cook it on the quad.
I was hoping that it was closed would be part of the joke....still looking for who has the best Orange Chicken in the C-U area.
Do they allow grilling on the Quad? They don't in Grange Grove, right?
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BOOM! Younger brother is on for 2024!
https://twitter.com/nicofoxil/status/1516086044332068864?s=21&t=sl-PxYsFgSC6FXvKLoBVEQ
Whatcha think about that Dominic?
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BOOM! Younger brother is on for 2024!
https://twitter.com/nicofoxil/status/1516086044332068864?s=21&t=sl-PxYsFgSC6FXvKLoBVEQ
Whatcha think about that Dominic?
👍.
And Dain Dainja moves like a guard.
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👍.
And Dain Dainja moves like a guard.
a very slow guard
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a very slow guard
But a guard nevertheless.
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BOOM! Younger brother is on for 2024!
https://twitter.com/nicofoxil/status/1516086044332068864?s=21&t=sl-PxYsFgSC6FXvKLoBVEQ
Whatcha think about that Dominic?
Interesting. Already had other high D1 offers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSa8dKf9lK8
ZZ stop and pop....Skyy in here as well...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VchVmGSKaY
3 years ago both Clark's
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I hate scouting videos that feature a lot of 3s. Anyone that plays basketball can make a 3. I want to see their handles, passing ability, and how they finish at the rim. Having said all that, I suspect he’s a very good player and a nice commitment.
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Curbelo?
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Curbelo?
I’m sure a 4 minute highlight video could be put together with him making 3s.
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I’m sure a 4 minute highlight video could be put together with him making 3s.
Well he made 11 out of 65 in his career so far. So, yeah, he actually made a few.......
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSa8dKf9lK8
ZZ stop and pop....Skyy in here as well...
Based on those highlights I can only assume he’s the next Steph Curry
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Well he made 11 out of 65 in his career so far. So, yeah, he actually made a few.......
The point is every top 100ish or even 1,000ish high school guard can make a 3. It’s not hard to put together a short highlight video with them making 3s. I want to see how they dribble, drive, dish, and/or finish at the rim. Watching them shoot 7 or 8 3s doesn’t tell me much.
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Based on those highlights I can only assume he’s the next Steph Curry
Or Mark Smith... :P
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It’ll be interesting to see who turns out better, the Fears brothers or the Clark brothers. It’ll be cool to keep an eye on that because it appears Underwood and staff passed on giving the keys to Fears, so he went to MSU. Not sure if his younger brother will follow him there or not.
It’s nice to be able to get to the level as a program where you can pick and choose who you want. Not letting the recruit and their handler bully you into doing something you’re not comfortable with.
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Or Mark Smith... :P
Or Jerrence Howard.
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Well who is one of the B1G's we go get now?
Hopkins should figure in now I would think?
Past history with Kepnang, Bates, Foster, Anselem, Wahab and others. Mobile big or traditional big? I vote for a mobile big to get us in line with the Flying Illini days as far as player size and mobility.
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Shawn Phillips decommits from NC St and visits yesterday...mobile Big, still looking though.
https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2022/04/20/pitt-back-on-2022-big-former-nc-state-commit-shawn-phillips/
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I wonder where Illinois ranks versus other schools in potential NIL $$$. Top 25ish or Top 10ish?
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I wonder were Illinois ranks versus other schools in potential NIL $$$. Top 25ish or Top 10ish?
My guess is Top 25 based on location, if Chicago is in full play as far as NIL, then Top 10 for sure. Not sure all available $$$ would come from there, and well CU is small market area so...
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If these rankings mean anything, which side do you fall on? Then I think we have interchangable pieces next year with Epps/Clark....Epps is ranked the highest that I have seen before.
https://www.si.com/college/2022/04/21/si99-basketball-2022-rankings-final-dereck-lively-duke-nick-smith
Rodgers in at 50. We have 3 Top 99 players in the nation. When was the last time we could say that? Really liking Anderson/Frazier better than OA/Chin to be honest.
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We’re in the running for a couple top transfers as well in Emoni Bates, Tre Mitchell, and a couple more. This is already a really good offseason for the Illini and could get even better.
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Says Kofi is coming back. Shannon to UM has fallen through, and if he comes here it hinges on Kofi coming back. Lastly, Belo wants to return but is on shaky ground with the staff/team due to how he handled himself.
So this FB group was completely full of shit. Everything mentioned here was wrong.
Kofi did leave.
Shannon did go to Michigan.
Curbelo went to St Johns.
0/3 on dumbass Illini homer predictions. Sounds like a Loyalty thread.
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1517558791469998080?t=ClIg0fNFGVKfbGxn675F3w&s=19
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No real news, but David Jones looks like a possible with the current roster
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1516581774146551810?t=l5KD4Ggt7ctFp5lqawP_fQ&s=19
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No real news, but David Jones looks like a possible with the current roster
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1516581774146551810?t=l5KD4Ggt7ctFp5lqawP_fQ&s=19
He’d have a huge locker.
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He’d have a huge locker.
That's what she said....
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https://phenomhoopreport.com/illinois-continuing-its-role-on-the-recruiting-trail/
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Wouldn't mind the ILLINI making a late run ??? for this kid. Looks to have alot of room for improvement, yet can ball right now...BC/Bama biggest schools listed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRKuGTM87_A
Rankings aren't everything and with this class already, a big with potential would work nicely as this kid would be a 4 yr player and has skills/body now to help.
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Former Illini verbal commit Reggie Bass just committed to Central Michigan…
https://twitter.com/verbalcommits/status/1521216036820996096?s=21&t=4vI7gvpP3IEDbpCtMsBNHw
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This will not help...
https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/03/task-force-to-big-money-boosters-nil-sanctions-could-be-coming
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This will not help...
https://www.si.com/college/2022/05/03/task-force-to-big-money-boosters-nil-sanctions-could-be-coming
“We let things get out of hand,” says one official with knowledge of the guidelines."
🤏🤣
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Lol.
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“We let things get out of hand,” says one official with knowledge of the guidelines."
🤏🤣
Understatement of the entire off season.
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Hahaha oh that's funny.
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“We let things get out of hand,” says one official with knowledge of the guidelines."
🤏🤣
I'm shocked! Shocked!
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Illinois interest in Jordan Stiemke. Overlooked 6-4 class of 2022 guard from MD
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Dunno what we would do with that kid but staff must have an idea.
It's like fielding an AAU team every year now. Kids moving around constantly, they all want to play, parents all a pain in the ass.
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Pwo? They just had Amarion Nimmers on campus. Nimmers will be walking on at Iowa.
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Pwo? They just had Amerion Nimmers on campus. Nimmers will be walking on at Iowa.
OK, that makes sense.
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Congrats to Ty Rodgers....looking forward to this kid. 6-7" who can do alot sound like anyone from the past. Lets hope.
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Dumbfcknic says he is not high D1 and will be a bust.
So there is that.
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Dumbfcknic says he is not high D1 and will be a bust.
So there is that.
By Dumbfcknic, if you mean Dumbfcknic, then I understand.... :D
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I scouted the 4 Illini commits tonight. Took a deep dive into their highlights, athleticism, etc. Here are my findings:
Sencire Harris: awkward long lanky lefty. Very athletic, but high dribbler. He’s a guy that would be best becoming a defensive stopper. Looks very awkward on offense off the dribble.
Jayden Epps: I think he’s great. He’s a Carsen Edwards clone. Good size, explosion, score anywhere. He’s better than any guard Illinois had last year. He should start every game.
Skye Clark- not seeing anything special here. Good stroke from 3. He looks fundamentally sound. For as awkward as Harris looks, Clark is a natural. But lack of athleticism and blow by ability means he’s probably Geo Baker or Rich McBride at the college level.
Ty Rodgers- strong athlete, limited skills. Undersized 4. Ideally he becomes like a Ja’Sean Tate but very few guys can actually make that work. I could see him washing out. Lot of hype over bearing Michigan State for him but I don’t see much skill with him.
So I think Illinois has 1 great All Conference lever player (Epps), a project (Harris), a low ceiling reliable starter (Clark), and a guy that I think belongs at a level lower than the Big 10 (Rodgers).
Interested to hear others opinions
This needs to be a sticky also along with his fcktard 14-18 prediction.
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Congrats to Ty Rodgers....looking forward to this kid. 6-7" who can do alot sound like anyone from the past. Lets hope.
Kind of reminds me of hs class of 1977 Mark Smith from Peoria Richwoods. Very good athlete. High level lateral quickness. More of a scorer than a shooter. Elite ball handling and passing skills for his size.
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Kid is a baller and is going to be a prototype Swiss Army knife wing. It’s awesome having three top 50 kids in one class.
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Congrats to Ty Rodgers....looking forward to this kid. 6-7" who can do alot sound like anyone from the past. Lets hope.
What's the congrats for what did he do?
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https://youtu.be/apA9X4ebVHw
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Dalen Davis from Whitney Young is a nice player, with offer, small in stature for B1G, but he can ball.
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https://twitter.com/JonChep/status/1538269912128540672?t=FKx_6PwxuCZF1gK93vt-0g&s=19
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https://twitter.com/JonChep/status/1538269912128540672?t=FKx_6PwxuCZF1gK93vt-0g&s=19
I remember watching his dad in high school at a game in 85/86 season.
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2023 Brock Harding a diminutive 6'0 guard from Moline. Plays well against comp, and is Freemans AAU teammate got an offer from Iowa. News is his brother plays baseball at Illinois, so another PG possibly to add (no one committed yet in 2023 for the ILLINI).
Skyy brother coming in 2024, sooooo????
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While I am here, there are three candidates for the 12th ride. We already know about Butz.
Zacharie Perrin is a versatile 6-10 17 year old big from France. No relation afaik to the late Lonnie Perrin.
https://youtu.be/blSUvsiBBXs
6-9 Thomas Haugh from PA graduated and was going to attend prep school, but is receptive to enrolling this fall. The video is dated
https://youtu.be/_9wKnH5UI4I
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2023 Brock Harding a diminutive 6'0 guard from Moline. Plays well against comp, and is Freemans AAU teammate got an offer from Iowa. News is his brother plays baseball at Illinois, so another PG possibly to add (no one committed yet in 2023 for the ILLINI).
Skyy brother coming in 2024, sooooo????
He trains with Jordan Delp here in Quad Cities since he was in 4th grade. Delp is one of best in the business and has had several D1 guys in the Big Ten, an AA, and NBA guys.
Been hearing about Harding for years.
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I like the Haugh players game a little more than Perrin's truth be told...plus he can grow into a role that is already occupied. Perrin could as well, I just see more upside with Haugh.
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https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-in-state-2024-recruiting-prospect-kanon-catchings-to-visit-this-week/
Catchings on campus today, Mom says his call on colleges....we have as good a shot based on what he is wanting in the future.
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He trains with Jordan Delp here in Quad Cities since he was in 4th grade. Delp is one of best in the business and has had several D1 guys in the Big Ten, an AA, and NBA guys.
Been hearing about Harding for years.
I thought Harding was more of a mid major type? No?
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I thought Harding was more of a mid major type? No?
Probably, but might be good fit at Iowa. He is small, but has had exceptional ball skills for awhile.
Iowa doesn't really guard anyone, like to play fast, play open court, play a lot of guys. Will play zone.
And they love having a lot of white players.
If he goes mid major he might have a bigger role. Kind of kid who we would run into that goes off for 25 and 10.
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https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-in-state-2024-recruiting-prospect-kanon-catchings-to-visit-this-week/
Catchings on campus today, Mom says his call on colleges....we have as good a shot based on what he is wanting in the future.
"Although the Illini matter in his recruitment and he’ll be there on Monday, Kanon was born and raised in Indiana, and he said he didn’t really grow up an Illinois fan."
It'd be nice if more of our legacy kids actually grew up fans and wanted to come here as a first-choice.
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"Although the Illini matter in his recruitment and he’ll be there on Monday, Kanon was born and raised in Indiana, and he said he didn’t really grow up an Illinois fan."
It'd be nice if more of our legacy kids actually grew up fans and wanted to come here as a first-choice.
Have not had a lot to cheer for until only recently (and we all know what happened in the tournament that actually matters).
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Have not had a lot to cheer for until only recently (and we all know what happened in the tournament that actually matters).
Everyone wants legacy kids, however that said, I will gladly keep the recruiting process that we now have. We are getting kids committed or at least interested from everywhere. If we get legacy or in state fine, but not concerned with either anymore with how things are going.
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/34156963/french-men-basketball-prospect-zacharie-perrin-commits-illinois-fighting-illini
#35 IN WHITE, this kid is going to be scary...very much a kid the likes of Gonzaga normally gets. He runs the floor very well, going from 6'4-6'11 late is going to work out great with some more physicality and strength.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqI0AdR8Kpo
WELCOME ABOARD ZACHARIE!!!
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Perrin reminds me of Augie with the footwork and passing abilities....lets hope he turns into that player.
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Perrin reminds me of Augie with the footwork and passing abilities....lets hope he turns into that player.
Hopefully he does not get into foul trouble in the NCAA Championship game.
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We are now ranked 6th overall.
https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Basketball/OverallTeamRankings/
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Amani Hansberry 2023
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Emoni Bates to Eastern Michigan.
Thomas Haugh to Florida for 2023.
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Eastern Michigan? Well ok then.
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Perrin reminds me of Augie with the footwork and passing abilities....lets hope he turns into that player.
Augustine was a way better athlete. You can’t trust foreign tape. It could make guys like Verdonk or Vesel look like players.
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I don’t think this guy will give us much, at least not early, but he’s much higher regarded than those other guys were.
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Augustine was a way better athlete. You can’t trust foreign tape. It could make guys like Verdonk or Vesel look like players.
Do you work at coming up with utter nonsense, or is it a natural gift.?
Matic Vessel was a total reach.
Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk was a possible find, but afaik he was not a top player in his age group in Belgium.
Perrin, at age 17, is one of the top under 21 players in Europe. He has earned some sort of mvp awards in a couple competitions.
On the comparison to Augie. Perrin is tall, long, agile, runs the court, likes to slip the screen, and is left handed. That is a natural comparison. Yes, Augie was a better athlete. Perrin has shown some ball skills.
When people make comparisons, they seldom mean a player is a clone or will be an equal talent.
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I would be very surprised if he didn't redshirt this year
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Yeah I see almost zero chance he provides anything this coming year.
Think I’d have preferred Seymour Butz as an experienced stopgap to try and maximize this team’s ceiling and then grab a multi-year big at semester break, next year’s transfer portal, or a better one from the HS ranks in 23.
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Do you work at coming up with utter nonsense, or is it a natural gift.?
Matic Vessel was a total reach.
Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk was a possible find, but afaik he was not a top player in his age group in Belgium.
Perrin, at age 17, is one of the top under 21 players in Europe. He has earned some sort of mvp awards in a couple competitions.
On the comparison to Augie. Perrin is tall, long, agile, runs the court, likes to slip the screen, and is left handed. That is a natural comparison. Yes, Augie was a better athlete. Perrin has shown some ball skills.
When people make comparisons, they seldom mean a player is a clone or will be an equal talent.
Perrin absolutely is not one of the top U21 players in Europe and I’ll prove it.
Perrin is from France. Don’t you think he would have been on the France U19 team last year if he was as good as you think he is?
Well he wasn’t even on that team.
https://www.fiba.basketball/world/u19/2021/team/France
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Perrin absolutely is not one of the top U21 players in Europe and I’ll prove it.
Perrin is from France. Don’t you think he would have been on the France U19 team last year if he was as good as you think he is?
Well he wasn’t even on that team.
https://www.fiba.basketball/world/u19/2021/team/France
I would not expect him to be on the U19 team at age 16. He was on their U18 team. At age 16. Virtual unknown before that. He was a late bloomer. Had a late growth spurt.
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Perrin absolutely is not one of the top U21 players in Europe and I’ll prove it.
Perrin is from France. Don’t you think he would have been on the France U19 team last year if he was as good as you think he is?
Well he wasn’t even on that team.
https://www.fiba.basketball/world/u19/2021/team/France
Maybe they don't pay enough.
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Updated https://www.pointguardeyes.com/amani-hansberry-2022
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Trent Pierce who had us on the short list committed to Mizzou.
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First 2023 Commit?
https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/tafara-gapare-4-star-pf-and-b1g-target-for-2023-reopens-recruitment/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH12EirQQQY&t=177s
Go get his teammate Russo-Nance as well for 2023!
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Now on this kid's list of offers:
Would love to add this kid as the first 2023, but with our current wings?
https://247sports.com/player/gehrig-normand-46118022/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma5kCdt4EuA
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2023 - Niccolo Moretti
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1546576306967416834
Moretti/Normand/Hansberry/get a B1G transfer(Gapare)
Follow up with 2024 of Brown/Clark/Johnson and 1-2 others.....
WE BACK!!!
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Matik Vesel and Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk each had one offer, from us.
Zacharie Perrin had 6; Texas, UCLA, FL, Memphis, BYU, and us.
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Gapare wants to enroll this fall. My understanding is that is why he decommited from DePud. They wanted him for 23.
Hearing we might be in good shape with Hansberry unless FSU gets involved, though I could be reading that wrong.
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Matik Vesel and Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk each had one offer, from us.
Zacharie Perrin had 6; Texas, UCLA, FL, Memphis, BYU, and us.
yes and Perrin is already better than both of them together.
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https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketballs-top-20-collection-of-wings-ranked-190283899/#190283899_1
Our Wings #2 rated per article, it could be argued however, we will see
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ZZ Clark signs with OTE for this season. Retains college eligibility and will play out of Atlanta against all ranked players to get better. Looking forward to seeing his improvement before he even gets here.
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https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1554904940589596678?t=ml5U65iN_ZQeKxOEWqh_rw&s=19
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I really want this kid.
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(https://i.ibb.co/QjZ9FJ2/Screenshot-20220823-193311-804.png) (https://ibb.co/NnXx6F8)
https://twitter.com/JWerner247/status/1562185621535334400?s=20&t=vE-5Tu4jNZePX88dx1168Q
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He’s definitely the type we need in today’s game. He’s the type that goes to other schools and we miss out on, but in a great position with him. Almost all our eggs are in this basket and we’re not really recruiting anybody else for 2023 too hard. Illinois has proven to be an elite level NIL school and that has helped us quite a bit. I think we’ll get him.
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I guess we shall see how elite level the NIL is, as it has not appeared to have done much on the football side so far.
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Underwood's three assistants were poached by elite programs, and the replacements are a collective upgrade.
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Two or three highly paid studs can make a difference in basketball.
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The #122 ranked player in the country. Yeah great get
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The #122 ranked player in the country. Yeah great get
Could be. Just like the 122nd ranked poster here is a quality poster.
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The #122 ranked player in the country. Yeah great get
Probably a top 10 or better actual performer this summer. Averaged a double double. Very skilled and solid defender. Can play the post or perimeter. Described as a point center. Just moved up to #52 on top 247. Different players but kind of reminds me of Rodgers in some ways -- motor, hands, length, skills, versatility, wins.
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(https://i.ibb.co/vvJb97C/Screenshot-20220824-155257.png) (https://ibb.co/3Y0wKD5)
(https://i.ibb.co/qMk42sy/Screenshot-20220824-155626.png) (https://ibb.co/7J2T0WY)
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Hansberry is an Illini. 👍
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Sweet!
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https://youtu.be/WtdUabYUdpY
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Former Illini comparison: Ken Colliers- Norman. Hansberry is similar to Norman in that in he is not a great athlete, but he is very strong, long, highly skilled, and has very good hands and a high basketball IQ. Like "Snake", he is not a great outside shooter, but can score from midrange or in the paint.
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Noice write up by Bossi.
https://247sports.com/Article/College-basketball-recruiting-Four-star-Amani-Hansberry-commits-to-Illinois-192216312/
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It’s nice when you get your #1 priority in the class. He’s just the type of player you need in todays game. Great pickup and this staff is killing it! Go Illini!
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JJ Taylor, come on down, join the class.
Welcome Amani - Very very good left, nice hands on catches, can pass the ball. Not extremely athletic (below rim kind of player), gets leaned out (Fletch) and weights...maybe above rim player. Rebounding has alot to do with current size and hands against players, we will se if it can translate.
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Sounds like he's full of TNT
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Hansberry up to 64 per ESPN
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another recruit
https://writingillini.com/2022/09/30/illinois-basketball-illini-land-another-top-100-recruit-2023/
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another recruit
https://writingillini.com/2022/09/30/illinois-basketball-illini-land-another-top-100-recruit-2023/
Hope he's as good as Trent frazier was similar games
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Refreshing to see a staff clean up on the recruiting trail.
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Victor Wembanyama is the best talent I’ve seen since Lebron. Imagine if you combined Durant/Gobert. That’s who this guy is. He’s 7’4, dribbles and runs like a guard, shoots 3s like a guard, blocks shots like Gobert. Never seen anyone like him.
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It truly is Bizarro HQ2 these days.
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Victor Wembanyama is kind of a freak of nature.
https://youtu.be/IF9mlZzfT_o
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Reminds me of that dude from Gonzaga last year.
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Reminds me of that dude from Gonzaga last year.
Yeah. Maybe a better athlete and shooter.
Will be interesting to see how he develops.
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He's also literally 4-5" taller than Chet with a +6" wingspan.
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Okay. Chet Holmgen. For a second, I thought we had recruited us a 6-6 point guard with a 7-1 wingspan.
Not sure why this is in the recruiting thread. Kid isn't going to college.
At first glance, I thought the OP was a Sid Finch / Ivan Renko post.
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He's also literally 4-5" taller than Chet with a +6" wingspan.
It is kind of crazy. He has very polished skills for his age. And his size and length is ridiculous.
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Not sure if this has been posted...good watch though, looking forward to this kid in orange.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36T1PYezy_w
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Not sure if this has been posted...good watch though, looking forward to this kid in orange.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36T1PYezy_w
Kid really gets up off the ground for 6’1”.
Nice looking player.
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I watched Bronny James on ESPN2. He stinks. Weak handle, weak shooter, average quickness. He doesn’t stand out at all. Lebron is on crack thinking he’s going to play in the NBA with his son.
Bronny would fit in the Underwood camp of recruiting all hype guys that have very little actual skill. He’s another Jeff Jordan
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Bronny will be in the NBA because Lebron will make it happen. He will make sure the team he’s on or goes to will sign him as a free agent so they can play together. Take it to the bank.
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Bronny will be in the NBA because Lebron will make it happen. He will make sure the team he’s on or goes to will sign him as a free agent so they can play together. Take it to the bank.
Really don’t think Lebron will have that type of pull with any team. Lakers were a lottery team last year and Lebron is only going to get worse.
Why bend over for a player that doesn’t make much difference?
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Bronny would fit in the Underwood camp of recruiting all hype guys that have very little actual skill. He’s another Jeff Jordan
This makes no sense whatsoever.
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This makes no sense whatsoever.
You see Custard, Underwood recruits a lot of guys with hype around them who aren’t actually any good. And Bronny James would fit into this role. He’s a name. Nothing else.
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This makes no sense whatsoever.
Jim Harbaugh is the Bear HC and DeVito is just another Peters, so he got those right....errrrr, check that, nevermind.
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You see Custard, Underwood recruits a lot of guys with hype around them who aren’t actually any good. And Bronny James would fit into this role. He’s a name. Nothing else.
I see you are still a fcking idiot.
So, did you promise to leave the forum if we win more than 14 games you fcktard?
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You see Custard, Underwood recruits a lot of guys with hype around them who aren’t actually any good. And Bronny James would fit into this role. He’s a name. Nothing else.
I know you’re trolling, but this just isn’t good work.
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Bronny would fit in the Underwood camp of recruiting all hype guys that have very little actual skill. He’s another Jeff Jordan
I remember when Underwood recruited Jeff Jordan. He had a lot of hype, but had very little actual skill. Wasted scholarship. Marcus was bigger and a better athlete, but still not very skilled.
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I remember when Underwood recruited Jeff Jordan. He had a lot of hype, but had very little actual skill. Wasted scholarship. Marcus was bigger and a better athlete, but still not very skilled.
I assume you mean Weber. Underwood was at Kansas State in 2007. :)
And Jordan was a walk on and enrolled with an academic scholarship of some sort. Not sure he ever used an athletic scholarship before he left. Maybe an unused one for half of his soph year.
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You see Custard, Underwood recruits a lot of guys with hype around them who aren’t actually any good. And Bronny James would fit into this role. He’s a name. Nothing else.
like who?
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like who?
Probably guys like Kofi…oh wait.
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like who?
Let’s look at all the busts Underwood has recruited that has lots of hype, but if you actually looked at tape could tell they would suck.
Omar Payne- listen to Werner hype this guy up all off-season. Completely sucked
Austin Hutcherson- seriously. A D3 guy got insane amount of hype and did nothing.
Curbelo- lot of hype. Completely sucked.
Mark Smith- Underwood claimed he was like Jason Kidd. Ugh no.
Tevian Jones- lots of hype, sucked
Mark Alstork- sucked
I’m also pre-emptively adding Sky Clark, Mayer, Rodgers” to the “lots of incredible incoming hype but actually sucks” list. If you look at tape, Sky Clark and Rodgers have serious flaws in their game. Clark is too slow, and Rodgers can’t shoot/too short. Both way overranked in HS. Mayer just look at his stats. He’s the Juan Pierre of basketball. Low efficient actually sucks group.
Bronny fits in the over-ranked group. Watch some games of his. His only elite skill is jumping. Nothing else.
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Lol
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I assume you mean Weber. Underwood was at Kansas State in 2007. :)
And Jordan was a walk on and enrolled with an academic scholarship of some sort. Not sure he ever used an athletic scholarship before he left. Maybe an unused one for half of his soph year.
Satire detector?
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Let’s look at all the busts Underwood has recruited that has lots of hype, but if you actually looked at tape could tell they would suck.
Omar Payne- listen to Werner hype this guy up all off-season. Completely sucked
Austin Hutcherson- seriously. A D3 guy got insane amount of hype and did nothing.
Curbelo- lot of hype. Completely sucked.
Mark Smith- Underwood claimed he was like Jason Kidd. Ugh no.
Tevian Jones- lots of hype, sucked
Mark Alstork- sucked
I think he said Mark Smith had Kidd potential. Lots of people overrated Smith. He dominated metro east competition and never got exposed in national aau. In the end, he was a good college role player with a helicopter parent.
Curbelo was a stud before the brain injury. Saying he completely sucked is proof you are an asshole. A minor league asshole at that.
I'd have liked to have seen Payne redshirt and work with Geoff and TA. Good athlete with size and strength. No skills. Wasn't he rated about the same as Kofi out of high school?
I don't recall expectations being overly high for Alstork. He was worth a shot because nobody else wanted to come here.
Tevian Jones looked like a steal. Was not a plan A recruit, but a good athlete with size and skills, top 125ish prospect. Had off court issues.
Austin Hutcherson is an exceptional athlete with some basketball skills. We never saw him play due to injuries. Possible other issues?
Another thing is Underwood often says nice things about his players in public. It might be a safe bet that he saves the criticism for private moments.
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I’m also pre-emptively adding Sky Clark, Mayer, Rodgers” to the “lots of incredible incoming hype but actually sucks” list. If you look at tape, Sky Clark and Rodgers have serious flaws in their game. Clark is too slow, and Rodgers can’t shoot/too short. Both way overranked in HS. Mayer just look at his stats. He’s the Juan Pierre of basketball. Low efficient actually sucks group.
The only knock on Ty Rodgers is the three point shot. He has good handles and elite passing skills. Can pass and finish through contact with either hand. Plus defender.
I dunno about Sky Clark, but Skyy looked pretty quick even before he was 100%.
Mayer is another plus defender with good handles for his size.
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ZZ Clark decommits
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1582133108496683008
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ZZ Clark decommits
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1582133108496683008
It has to be asked: did we really want him?
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It has to be asked: did we really want him?
It always had a "your brother's here, so we'll take you too" vibe to it IMO.
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Let’s look at all the busts Underwood has recruited that has lots of hype, but if you actually looked at tape could tell they would suck.
Omar Payne- listen to Werner hype this guy up all off-season. Completely sucked
Austin Hutcherson- seriously. A D3 guy got insane amount of hype and did nothing.
Curbelo- lot of hype. Completely sucked.
Mark Smith- Underwood claimed he was like Jason Kidd. Ugh no.
Tevian Jones- lots of hype, sucked
Mark Alstork- sucked
I’m also pre-emptively adding Sky Clark, Mayer, Rodgers” to the “lots of incredible incoming hype but actually sucks” list. If you look at tape, Sky Clark and Rodgers have serious flaws in their game. Clark is too slow, and Rodgers can’t shoot/too short. Both way overranked in HS. Mayer just look at his stats. He’s the Juan Pierre of basketball. Low efficient actually sucks group.
Bronny fits in the over-ranked group. Watch some games of his. His only elite skill is jumping. Nothing else.
I don’t recall anyone on that list being all that “hyped.” Maybe Mark Smith, locally. That’s it.
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ZZ Clark decommits
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1582133108496683008
He sucks. Couldn’t even get off the bench of his HS team. Same for Lawhorn.
Underwood is recruiting NIL trash.
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Glad to see Truth is still proudly a moron. Some things never change.
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Glad to see Truth is still proudly a moron. Some things never change.
Did you know he was AOTC on Bielema?
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Did someone send Spark the Bat signal?
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Glad to see Truth is still proudly a moron. Some things never change.
Good to see you, buddy! Not as fun around here without you.
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Cue the gay jokes.
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(https://i.ibb.co/TcfsRdj/660677-B1-AC60-4917-9-CEF-FFEBC6-F36-FD1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6YMkbL9)
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Nice tat, Custard.
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🤣
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Looks like I picked the wrong guys on this forum to eat out!! 😂🤣 🖕🏼
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Good to see you, buddy! Not as fun around here without you.
This place is a complete nightmare though.
I wish I still wanted to hang out here, I miss a few of the regulars, but not worth all the idiocy. Some of the worst, dumbest people ever.
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This place is a complete nightmare though.
I wish I still wanted to hang out here, I miss a few of the regulars, but not worth all the idiocy. Some of the worst, dumbest people ever.
Yeah, but what do you think about Justin Fields?
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Yeah, but what do you think about Justin Fields?
I thought his first name was Mitch
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I thought his first name was Mitch
I do not know if Spark is following the board at all these days.
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Looks like I picked the wrong guys on this forum to eat out!! 😂🤣 🖕🏼
I respect that Judge Judy just runs with this now.
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Haha. So fucking predictable.
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This place is a complete nightmare though.
I wish I still wanted to hang out here, I miss a few of the regulars, but not worth all the idiocy. Some of the worst, dumbest people ever.
My friend, that's a good chunk of the fun.
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My friend, that's a good chunk of the fun.
The internet is very serious business, Calvin.
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The internet is very serious business, Calvin.
It sure is.
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Hey if you get fun out of hanging out with a group of dudes who think the height of comedy is calling someone a fag then more power to you. I don’t really.
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Don’t let the door hit you in the pussy on your way out !
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And here I thought it was me calling the Commies who are Chinese assholes.
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I think I may have once once said All in the Family was one the best sit coms ever. In a couple episodes, Archie used the word fag as pejorative toward gay men.
I don't think that was necessarily the height of comedy, but it was funny in context at the time.
When I was a kid, the right wing was censoring Lenny Bruce. More recently, the left has tried to impose rules, like always punching up instead of down.
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https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/two-chinese-intelligence-officers-charged-obstruction-justice-scheme-bribe-us?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top
Well, I guess Spark will not be telling us how great the Commies from China really are.
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https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/two-chinese-intelligence-officers-charged-obstruction-justice-scheme-bribe-us?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top
Well, I guess Spark will not be telling us how great the Commies from China really are.
"They’re not bad folks, folks"
Biden 2019
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We would never do anything like spying on or bribing foreign officials.
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Gambling in Vegas shocked something something.
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Gambling in Vegas shocked something something.
Casablanca. C'mon dude, you saw that movie when it came out.
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(https://i.ibb.co/s3QfC7D/Screenshot-20221110-110951-4.png) (https://ibb.co/f0tg9JK)
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Has anybody goggled their 8th grade free shot stats ?
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https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/two-chinese-intelligence-officers-charged-obstruction-justice-scheme-bribe-us?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top
Well, I guess Spark will not be telling us how great the Commies from China really are.
Is one of those guys a basketball recruit?
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Is one of those guys a basketball recruit?
They reportedly can hit their free shots.
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I scouted the 4 Illini commits tonight. Took a deep dive into their highlights, athleticism, etc. Here are my findings:
Sencire Harris: awkward long lanky lefty. Very athletic, but high dribbler. He’s a guy that would be best becoming a defensive stopper. Looks very awkward on offense off the dribble.
Jayden Epps: I think he’s great. He’s a Carsen Edwards clone. Good size, explosion, score anywhere. He’s better than any guard Illinois had last year. He should start every game.
Skye Clark- not seeing anything special here. Good stroke from 3. He looks fundamentally sound. For as awkward as Harris looks, Clark is a natural. But lack of athleticism and blow by ability means he’s probably Geo Baker or Rich McBride at the college level.
Ty Rodgers- strong athlete, limited skills. Undersized 4. Ideally he becomes like a Ja’Sean Tate but very few guys can actually make that work. I could see him washing out. Lot of hype over bearing Michigan State for him but I don’t see much skill with him.
So I think Illinois has 1 great All Conference lever player (Epps), a project (Harris), a low ceiling reliable starter (Clark), and a guy that I think belongs at a level lower than the Big 10 (Rodgers).
Interested to hear others opinions
Nailed all these before they even stepped foot on campus.
Epps is better than Clark.
Rodgers isn’t a Big 10 level player.
Harris is a defensive stopper.
Also nailed that Mayer would suck.
You’re welcome.
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Clark is not pushing it yet, but he is obviously a far superior athlete than McBride. His athleticism (quicker, faster, better hops) gives him a higher ceiling than than Epps, provided the knee holds up.
For his part, Epps looks a skilled, polished basket player with a high floor.
Everyone was comparing Harris to Gill & Head coming in. He has been better offensively than expected.
Long way to go on Rodgers. Nothing to indicate he does not belong at the B1G level. If he shot the ball like Epps or Clark, he'd have been a blue blood 5 star recruit.
Iirc Mayer got a late start. He has also been playing with back issues.
I guess I was aotc on Dainja. The only thing, I figured he'd be slimmer. I also feel no need to toot my own horn.
What were you saying about Dainja? It is okay to be wrong. We all have our takes and miss-takes. I thought Tevian Jones was under rated and going to be a stud for us.
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McBride in HS was far more athletic than Sky Clark is. Sky Clark is another Mark Smith possibly. In fact their freshman stats are quite similar. But Smith I think was more athletic. Clark is too bulky, and just doesn’t do much on the court. McBride wasn’t asked to play PG much if at all at Illinois but if he had he’d have looked very similar to how Clark looks now. Both put too many pounds on. As for the other guys…
How many 6’5 and under players that can’t shoot jump shots are high D1 players? None I can think of. . That’s why Rodgers doesn’t have a position at this level. He should be on the football field.
I compared Dainja to Pruitt. That’s his ceiling.
It’s easy to see on tape Epps can score and Harris is the best basketball athlete on the time outside of Shannon.
Mayer’s not going to get any better. What you are seeing this year is exactly what he was like at Baylor last year. A low % shooter that takes shots way out of rhythm on offense.
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The jury is still out on a lot of this, and I’ve even been lambasted for agreeing with some of what you’ve said, especially about Clark. But the Dainja analogy is absolutely awful. He’s not even close to the same type of player as Pruitt other than they both suck at free shots.
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Nailed all these before they even stepped foot on campus.
Epps is better than Clark.
Rodgers isn’t a Big 10 level player.
Harris is a defensive stopper.
Also nailed that Mayer would suck.
You’re welcome.
You have us for 14 wins fcktard Florida Man. Thought you banned yourself. But keep posting. Every forum needs a village idiot.
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https://fightingillini.com/news/2022/12/20/mens-basketball-perrin-joins-fighting-illini.aspx
The Frenchy is joining the team.
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https://fightingillini.com/news/2022/12/20/mens-basketball-perrin-joins-fighting-illini.aspx
The Frenchy is joining the team.
Can't think I've ever seen that happen, with the immediate eligibility.
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Championship?
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Championship?
At least should allow Squeaky Dom to review his season win prediction.
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Bonjour Monsieur Perrin,
Are you good at this "every day guys" thing ?
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https://fightingillini.com/news/2022/12/20/mens-basketball-perrin-joins-fighting-illini.aspx
The Frenchy is joining the team.
Dom said he if he was any good, he would have made France's U19 team.
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Dumbfcknic admits to jerking off while watching games so there is that.
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Dumbfcknic admits to jerking off while watching games so there is that.
Squeaky loves teen boys.
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Perrin was the best player on France's U18 team last year. I have no idea how that level of competition translates.
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Dom said he if he was any good, he would have made France's U19 team.
Dom apparently knows a lot about U19.
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Hopefully he’s the straw that stirs the drink
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08N8hdEazgg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08N8hdEazgg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HwWSbebtlQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HwWSbebtlQ)
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I was at a local HS game over the weekend to watch Moline play who has two guys who are 3 star top 150 players set to go to Iowa next year.
Owen Freeman is 6'10" post and Brock Harding is 6' PG.
All I will say is Freeman compared to Perrin is not close. Perrin is pretty skilled and athletic and looks like he might potentially play some limited backup minutes later in year if he can adapt enough to the speed and physical play.
Freeman is a project. Slow, soft, and limited ball skills.
Harding is interesting player. Not exactly sure how his game will translate in slugfest BT. Certainly a high mid major kid.
Old school pure PG, great vision, great passer, plus handles, nice shot with range, fairly quick, very crafty, and apparently can actually dunk.
Small frame and likely will have issues on D, but Iowa does not guard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI7s_MUpNCs
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Two of our recruits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpfZMm_sJXo
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Didn't see it mentioned. Freshman AJ Redd, 6-3 guard from St. Ignatius, made the roster as a walkon.
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Didn't see it mentioned. Freshman AJ Redd, 6-3 guard from St. Ignatius, made the roster as a walkon.
Congrats to the young man. Sounds like he was a pretty good player in HS.
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Who got the better player:
Duke (9-3)
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4280073/jacob-grandison
UNC (9-4)
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4397233/pete-nance
UI (8-4)
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4395697/matthew-mayer
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looks like we got another 2023 commit
https://www.on3.com/college/illinois-fighting-illini/news/illinois-basketball-niccolo-moretti-commits-to-illini-brad-underwood/
going the AZ route with all these foreign kids now?
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Buongiorno!
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looks like we got another 2023 commit
https://www.on3.com/college/illinois-fighting-illini/news/illinois-basketball-niccolo-moretti-commits-to-illini-brad-underwood/
going the AZ route with all these foreign kids now?
They won't understand what he is yelling at them?
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They won't understand what he is yelling at them?
"Motherfucker" is well known in all cultures.
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"Motherfucker" is well known in all cultures.
;D
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Apparently going to start his eligibility in 2 weeks
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https://writingillini.com/2023/01/11/illinois-basketball-new-illini-point-guard-enrolling-early/ (https://writingillini.com/2023/01/11/illinois-basketball-new-illini-point-guard-enrolling-early/)
Yep. If he can really handle the ball will maybe get some time. He sounds like an old school PG.
Edit:
Actually from his videos looks like a similar player to the Harding kid that Iowa is bringing in next year from Moline.
A little more length. Unusual very high ball skills.
Will see if he can guard and deal with speed and physicality, but very slick.
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6'2" and tilts the scales at 165 lbs ?
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6'2" and tilts the scales at 165 lbs ?
Beanpole 😂
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Montverde Academy’s boys basketball team won the 20th annual MAIT championship on Saturday night, beating Chicago’s St. Rita Catholic 90-70.
St. Rita (15-10) ... was paced by Illinois-bound Morez Johnson, who had 22 points and 10 rebounds for a double-double.
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North Carolina-bound James Brown was a non-factor for St. Rita, scoring just five points and fouling out.[\i]
https://news.scorebooklive.com/florida/2023/01/29/montverde-academy-boys-race-past-st-rita-for-mait-title
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https://twitter.com/BillJudge1/status/1620610776418652163?t=PLFxAvlg9QVsNKdYVpKK8w&s=19
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Montverde Academy’s boys basketball team won the 20th annual MAIT championship on Saturday night, beating Chicago’s St. Rita Catholic 90-70.
St. Rita (15-10) ... was paced by Illinois-bound Morez Johnson, who had 22 points and 10 rebounds for a double-double.
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North Carolina-bound James Brown was a non-factor for St. Rita, scoring just five points and fouling out.[\i]
https://news.scorebooklive.com/florida/2023/01/29/montverde-academy-boys-race-past-st-rita-for-mait-title
Brown eventually is going to have to realize some of the potential he has or he may find himself in the MAC. Or worse, DePaul.
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This could get interesting
Bylaw 19.7.3: In cases involving name, image and likeness offers, agreements and/or activities in which related communications and conduct are subject to NCAA regulation, the infractions process shall presume a violation occurred if circumstantial information suggests that one or more parties engaged in impermissible conduct. The enforcement staff may make a formal allegation based on the presumption. The hearing panel shall conclude a violation occurred unless the institution or involved individual clearly demonstrates with credible and sufficient information that all communications and conduct surrounding the name, image and likeness activity complied with NCAA legislation.
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looks like we got another 2023 commit
https://www.on3.com/college/illinois-fighting-illini/news/illinois-basketball-niccolo-moretti-commits-to-illini-brad-underwood/
going the AZ route with all these foreign kids now?
Not actually the AZ route, it is the Gonzaga route...the coach at AZ was the #1 recruiter globally for the Zags for 10 years as the assistant before taking the AZ job. But yes the theory is the same, I mentioned this many a time in the past on how the ILLINI should do this and use the global diversity of student population along with the education as HUGE recruiting tools. Finally, it seems to be happening.
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Hopefully, some stay long enough to develop and play instead of getting impatient and going home to sign a pro contract.
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A more athletic better shooting Belo?
https://twitter.com/EliteMixtapesYT/status/1626422256002818049?t=JkaxehPXCfDroW-uLY0NMg&s=19
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I wouldn’t get my hopes up. He’s on his 4th high school, couldn’t get off the bench of his prior school, and mom appears to be a crack whore. This a desperation take for a clueless staff
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I wouldn’t get my hopes up. He’s on his 4th high school, couldn’t get off the bench of his prior school, and mom appears to be a crack whore. This a desperation take for a clueless staff
Link…
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Link…
Mom’s twitter. Granted White chics that bang blacks are typically ghetto themselves and trashy, so I wasn’t too surprised, but this kids mom takes even that it to another level.
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One more win!
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2023 recruits, one already gone.
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Season/2023-Basketball/Commits/
Top 2023 recruits in Illinois.
https://247sports.com/Season/2023-Basketball/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=IL
All going elsewhere. From what I can gather, we could have had Fears or Harding. We backed off Fears, showed interest in Harding too late.
Pence likely would have accepted a firm offer.
They had some transient interest in Ames, freeman, and Thomas.
Who is gonna burn us?
2024 in Illinois:
https://247sports.com/Season/2024-Basketball/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=IL
No matter what they say, we have the best player in the state committed.
The staff is also interested in Cole Certa and Jason Jakstys
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#3
https://youtu.be/HSUpfJuz1IM
https://youtu.be/In6k1MHfcPQ
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I wouldn’t get my hopes up. He’s on his 4th high school, couldn’t get off the bench of his prior school, and mom appears to be a crack whore. This a desperation take for a clueless staff
I’ve changed my mind on DGL’s talent. I watched him play at OTE. He can play anywhere in college. Forget rankings. Talent/athleticism wise he has what it takes. But all the red flags I mentioned above are still there.
I don’t think he ever shows up at Illinois, especially if Epps returns. But if Epps leaves, and OTE doesn’t pay him to stay there, then I think DGL could be Big 10 FOY. He must be a complete headache/asshole off the court to not get off the bench at Monteverde.
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Mom’s twitter. Granted White chics that bang blacks are typically ghetto themselves and trashy, so I wasn’t too surprised, but this kids mom takes even that it to another level.
Racism? Allowable. Repetitiveness? Get the f*ck outta here (ban hammer)!
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Racism? Allowable. Repetitiveness? Get the f*ck outta here (ban hammer)!
Squeaky claims he can't be racist because he married a non-white, so she could get her green card. Also, Squeaky bought her and her new husband a home.
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Squeaky claims he can't be racist because he married a non-white, so she could get her green card. Also, Squeaky bought her and her new husband a home.
And PAMan thinks I’m a sucker for giving a $2.89 Uber ride…
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I am not sure what the odds are DGL ever enrolls at Illinois. Doubt it has anything to do what Epps does. Kid can play and is way undervalued by the ranking services.
I could be wrong, but have always put less stock in ranks than some. The rsci and 247 composite are useful tools. They tell us a consensus of what the paid prospect evaluators are thinking.
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And PAMan thinks I’m a sucker for giving a $2.89 Uber ride…
$3 is crazy low. I don’t do anything for under $5.
I picked up another Uber driver the other day and he showed me he made $1800 in a single week. I asked him how he did that? He said he doesn’t take any rides for less than $20. His acceptance rate is 13%
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$3 is crazy low. I don’t do anything for under $5.
I picked up another Uber driver the other day and he showed me he made $1800 in a single week. I asked him how he did that? He said he doesn’t take any rides for less than $20. His acceptance rate is 13%
I don’t actually take those rides either. I used to do 2k fairly easily. Before the rate drops. Now 1/3 of the fares coming in are less than $5. My acceptance rate went to 90% to 14% and falling.
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Aiden Igiehon just entered the portal, we were in on him before, could use this kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvnV7T33n2I
5 star big that originally committed to L-Ville, then GCU. (jr)
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Hmmm. Doesn’t look Irish.
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Hmmm. Doesn’t look Irish.
Did Phil Lynott?
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https://twitter.com/SencireH/status/1640414813254713344?t=2FepzXtDIoywWx-GS0mgow&s=19
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That's good. Any word on Epps? I'm guessing he's gone.
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Caleb Love transferring from UNC. Not a fan. Has the potential to be a cancer much like Mayer apparently was this past season. No thanks.
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Rumors of Tyger Campbell entering the portal
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Caleb Love transferring from UNC. Not a fan. Has the potential to be a cancer much like Mayer apparently was this past season. No thanks.
I don't know. We could use his 36% shooting and 31% from three. He'd fit in nicely.
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Rumors of Tyger Campbell entering the portal
Unless some1 hacked his account. His post def. suggests he is moving on in some way.
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I understand the concerns with how they did this year returning a team that went on a title run but if Caleb Love wants to come here I think you find a roster spot and roll the dice.
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Rumors of Tyger Campbell entering the portal
Now that's a guy that I'd take
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Would have liked the ILLINI to have looked at the Deandre Craig kid, but probably didn't think they would need too with Skyy/Epps I guess.
Craig seems to have some Garris qualities, a Nevada recruit, but 1st Team this year in Chicago area
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Committed…
https://twitter.com/marcusdomask1/status/1645453906510528517?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://twitter.com/FinestMagazine/status/1652649775450210306?t=lMSjAtpbjFMUsUXGAI99SQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/ColeCerta/status/1654214275722797056/photo/1
Cole Certa to Micah
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Losing a kid from Bloomington,who Illinois was among his first offers, is quite pathetic.
Although the homers will say he’s just being a good Catholic
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Zero doubt in my mind that if he'd picked us you'd be trashing him right this second.
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Insiders were not high on Certa at all. I have no idea how hard Illinois recruited him. I suppose they would have accepted a commitment. It sounds like they advised him to take his time and make an informed decision.
Alexander was the lead recruiter. They need to promote him to one of those new practice coach jobs and hire another recruiter.
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ND is a good fit with Shrewsberry.
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13.1.1.3 Four-Year College Prospective Student-Athletes. An athletics staff member or other representative of the institution's athletics interests shall not make contact with the student-athlete of another NCAA or NAIA four-year collegiate institution, directly or indirectly, without first obtaining the written permission of the first institution's athletics director (or an athletics administrator designated by the athletics director) to do so, regardless of who makes the initial contact. If permission is not granted, the second institution shall not encourage the transfer and the institution shall not provide athletically related financial assistance to the student-athlete until the student-athlete has attended the second institution for one academic year. If permission is granted to contact the student-athlete, all applicable NCAA recruiting rules apply. If an institution receives a written request from a student-athlete to permit another institution to contact the student-athlete about transferring, the institution shall grant or deny the request within seven business days (see Bylaw 13.02.1) of receipt of the request. If the institution fails to respond to the student-athlete's written request within seven business days, permission shall be granted by default and the institution shall provide written permission to the student-athlete. [D] (Revised: 1/10/91, 1/16/93, 1/11/94, 4/26/01, 4/29/04 effective 8/1/04, 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10, 10/30/14)
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Zero doubt in my mind that if he'd picked us you'd be trashing him right this second.
On one hand, if you are left recruiting 3 stars that’s sad. And if the 3 stars don’t even want to play for you, it’s even worse
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Insiders were not high on Certa at all. I have no idea how hard Illinois recruited him. I suppose they would have accepted a commitment. It sounds like they advised him to take his time and make an informed decision.
Alexander was the lead recruiter. They need to promote him to one of those new practice coach jobs and hire another recruiter.
“every player that goes elsewhere Illinois doesn’t really want.”
Shut the fuck up. All we heard is Underwood is prioritizing shooting. Bc this team couldn’t hit water if it fell out of a boat.
Stop listening to “insiders”. They know Jack shit. Nothing. They are just apologists for every program.
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“every player that goes elsewhere Illinois doesn’t really want.”
Shut the fuck up. All we heard is Underwood is prioritizing shooting. Bc this team couldn’t hit water if it fell out of a boat.
Stop listening to “insiders”. They know Jack shit. Nothing. They are just apologists for every program.
What dumpster did you get dinner from tonight?
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If Cole Certa were coming to Illinois; legend in his own mind would be calling him a reach and saying Underwood is desperate.
I have no idea if he had a committable offer from Underwood or not.
I do know those who saw him play in person were skeptical, especially about his defense.
Having seen only a few video clips, I have no opinion. He sounds kind of like a shorter, less athletic version of Goode.
If all he can do is catch and shoot deep threes, he could be a good fit for Micha Shrewsberry
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On one hand, if you are left recruiting 3 stars that’s sad. And if the 3 stars don’t even want to play for you, it’s even worse
While I appreciate that you’re willing to acknowledge how stupid your “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” mindset is, I’d appreciate it even more if you just shut the fuck up.
There have been reports for months that we weren’t recruiting him very hard, which I’m sure you’ll pretend is false so you can keep acting like a dipshit.
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“every player that goes elsewhere Illinois doesn’t really want.”
Shut the fuck up. All we heard is Underwood is prioritizing shooting. Bc this team couldn’t hit water if it fell out of a boat.
Stop listening to “insiders”. They know Jack shit. Nothing. They are just apologists for every program.
Literally zero people care about your opinion of Cole Certa or your blind guess as to how hard we were recruiting him. Zero people in the world.
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Literally zero people care about your opinion of Cole Certa or your blind guess as to how hard we were recruiting him. Zero people in the world.
You got 25 days left. Then your ass is gone.
See ya!
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I'm excited for the day Shannon announces his return and you pretend you won the bet. Those are always funny.
I'm a grown up so yeah, I'll leave if Shannon leaves. It's just pathetic that you've been doing all this shit talking about a bet you never in a million years would honor, because you're a huge pussy.
I suppose when nobody in the entire world gives one single shit about you at all, you gotta latch onto whatever sad hope you have.
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I'm excited for the day Shannon announces his return and you pretend you won the bet. Those are always funny.
I'm a grown up so yeah, I'll leave if Shannon leaves. It's just pathetic that you've been doing all this shit talking about a bet you never in a million years would honor, because you're a huge pussy.
I suppose when nobody in the entire world gives one single shit about you at all, you gotta latch onto whatever sad hope you have.
You’ll just go back to the Scout board and claim Underwood is doing a great job after he starts 4 one year Grad Transfers on a bottom of the Big 10 conference team.
I’m sure you’ll be super hyped to watch this random team of scrubs:
PG- Dennis
SG- Harmon
SF- Domask
PF- Guerrier
C- Dainja
😂
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Hey NIT Pedophile.
STFU.
Go clean out the puke and piss in your Ubermobile from last night's drunk pickups.
Getting nice and warm down in hillbilly fcktard central. I bet that 1989 Ford Taurus you drive smells great.
And I hope you don't lose too much sleep about ending up chopped up and in a garbage bag from the wrong fare.
Have a nice day asshole.
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You’ll just go back to the Scout board and claim Underwood is doing a great job after he starts 4 one year Grad Transfers on a bottom of the Big 10 conference team.
I’m sure you’ll be super hyped to watch this random team of scrubs:
PG- Dennis
SG- Harmon
SF- Domask
PF- Guerrier
C- Dainja
😂
Assuming you're as right about this as you are about everything else, sounds like we'll be pretty good next year.
If we are I'm sure you'll have some pretzel excuse as to why we really sucked and actually, your prediction of losing 5 more games than we lost was right.
Because again, you're a beta pussy.
And yeah, I'll go back to the Scout board. I wasn't banned - again - for melting down like a toddler, so I'm allowed to do that. You can't leave here, because literally nowhere else will let you post there.
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This sort of thing is one reason why talent in Illinois has declined. It is not the only reason.
https://twitter.com/joehoopsreport/status/1654614582848024582?t=ehTqdmR7WN-hHoG29deVog&s=19
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Hey NIT Pedophile.
STFU.
Go clean out the puke and piss in your Ubermobile from last night's drunk pickups.
Getting nice and warm down in hillbilly fcktard central. I bet that 1989 Ford Taurus you drive smells great.
And I hope you don't lose too much sleep about ending up chopped up and in a garbage bag from the wrong fare.
Have a nice day asshole.
Post of the week.
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Assuming you're as right about this as you are about everything else, sounds like we'll be pretty good next year.
If we are I'm sure you'll have some pretzel excuse as to why we really sucked and actually, your prediction of losing 5 more games than we lost was right.
Because again, you're a beta pussy.
And yeah, I'll go back to the Scout board. I wasn't banned - again - for melting down like a toddler, so I'm allowed to do that. You can't leave here, because literally nowhere else will let you post there.
No, the team will stink and playing 4 guys who won’t even be here the following year (possibly 5 if Dainja leaves) just tells you Underwood has no “program”. It’s rag tag roster collecting every season.
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No, the team will stink and playing 4 guys who won’t even be here the following year (possibly 5 if Dainja leaves) just tells you Underwood has no “program”. It’s rag tag roster collecting every season.
Yet that’s exactly what Duke and Kentucky (them especially) do every year with their young talent.
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Every time the Boy Who's Always Wrong predicts we'll suck, I'm more confident we'll be good.
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No, the team will stink and playing 4 guys who won’t even be here the following year (possibly 5 if Dainja leaves) just tells you Underwood has no “program”. It’s rag tag roster collecting every season.
You do realize your "predict the 2022-2023 season" post where you predicted 17-16 and missing the NIT is still pinned right?
You have zero credibility.
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Yet that’s exactly what Duke and Kentucky (them especially) do every year with their young talent.
You do realize they’re doing it with 5 stars, right?
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19 of the 40 starters in the Elite Eight were transfers.
The Final Four had zero McDAA's.
NIT Squeaky Pedophile Cab Bitch is a fucking idiot as always.
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19 of the 40 starters in the Elite Eight were transfers.
The Final Four had zero McDAA's.
NIT Squeaky Pedophile Cab Bitch is a fucking idiot as always.
A rarity I would think; perhaps the new norm, though.
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A rarity I would think; perhaps the new norm, though.
NIT Squeaky Pedophile Cab Bitch being a fucking idiot is the norm and has been for years.
As for college basketball - it is more like AAU summer ball now.
Some coaches can make it work to get offense and defense systems in place and get player buy in.
Others have an ego shit show and chuckfest.
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Yet that’s exactly what Duke and Kentucky (them especially) do every year with their young talent.
Yeah, but their one year guys are usually lotto picks. And even then, it rarely ever results in a great team.
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19 of the 40 starters in the Elite Eight were transfers.
The Final Four had zero McDAA's.
NIT Squeaky Pedophile Cab Bitch is a fucking idiot as always.
You are fucking RETARDED.
19 of those 40 were not ONE YEAR GUYS.
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You do realize your "predict the 2022-2023 season" post where you predicted 17-16 and missing the NIT is still pinned right?
You have zero credibility.
I literally claim closer than anyone. When blowhards were saying the team was better without Kofi, I told you the truth.
50th on Torvick
It was a shit team
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Every time the Boy Who's Always Wrong predicts we'll suck, I'm more confident we'll be good.
No, we will suck, but you'll tell us we are good. Kind of like this year. 2-12 vs Q1s. "Oh but what a great season we were so comfortably a 9 seed". Thats just loser talk.
Again, you wanted Weber fired for these results.
With Underwood you praise him.
Why?
Both are shit recruiters but Underwood at least can pay guys. What his excuse for poor performance? How about he's just a poor coach no matter how much money the boosters spend on this group
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I literally claim closer than anyone. When blowhards were saying the team was better without Kofi, I told you the truth.
50th on Torvick
It was a shit team
Most predicted NCAA tourney and were right.
You are a shithead.
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I literally claim closer than anyone. When blowhards were saying the team was better without Kofi, I told you the truth.
50th on Torvick
It was a shit team
STFU. You are complete embarrassment.
You said 17 wins after changing it from 14 wins.
Then NIT first round loss. Guaranteed.
You are a mentally ill pathetic pedophile loser living in a shithole flop house.
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If Shannon returns, this may be Squeaky's final dagger.
He's broke due to his stupid day trading and no one will hire him due to his checkered background.
No woman or teen girl will date him. Teen boys working at McDonald's make more money than Squeaky's and thus are more desirable for teen girls to date.
Lastly, this is the final Illini related board that Squeaky can troll. He's been kicked off every other boatd. He basically has nothing left if he loses this bet.
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Time for work NIT Pedophlie Squeaky. Have a nice night.
We are all pulling for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVHgnBjNwv4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVHgnBjNwv4)
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Jesus Christ.
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Time for work NIT Pedophlie Squeaky. Have a nice night.
We are all pulling for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVHgnBjNwv4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVHgnBjNwv4)
Damn.
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I literally claim closer than anyone. When blowhards were saying the team was better without Kofi, I told you the truth.
50th on Torvick
It was a shit team
Just pretend with me guys
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Just pretend with me guys
so you want to now be more like Domfuknic? Okay let's all join his party then....the delusional one that is. ;D ;D
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Hey good news I am richer now I bet on every horse today for the Derby except the #8 one....he won, but I predicted the others would win, so I was close and now I was right, so I have to collect my winnings.
That's how this pretend thing works right????
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An Inverse Squeaky ETF would make us all lots of money and would outperform the Inverse Cramer ETF.
https://www.thestreet.com/etffocus/blog/inverse-cramer-etf-is-live
Also just imagine how well we would do if we applied the Inverse Squeaky to sports betting.
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RayJ was spotted on campus. It appears nobody had advance noti notice.
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RayJ was spotted on campus. It appears nobody had advance noti notice.
Squeaky knew. He is the ultimate insider.
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RayJ was spotted on campus. It appears nobody had advance noti notice.
I’m assuming you mean outside of the basketball program.
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Squeaky knew. He is the ultimate insider.
Squeaky has declared Dennis is garbage if he goes to Illinois and a big loss if he goes elsewhere.
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Squeaky has declared Dennis is garbage if he goes to Illinois and a big loss if he goes elsewhere.
Typical Illini fan…
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The insiders at Loyalty who claim they actually talk directly to staff are predicting that Dennis is in the fold, think Hawkins likely stays in draft, and TSJ returns.
Who knows. I poked them a little this morning about the present roster and the whole board freaked out that anyone would doubt we were not going to be Top 25 loaded team within a couple weeks.
Cue NIT Squeaky Pedophile choking on the half eaten burrito he found in the garbage on the beach for his breakfast and screaming that only he knows what will happen.
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The insiders at Loyalty who claim they actually talk directly to staff are predicting that Dennis is in the fold, think Hawkins likely stays in draft, and TSJ returns.
I'd be ok with that. I think Hawkins really muddies things up for this squad. I like him as a player, and this isn't necessarily a "we're better off without him" statement, but I'd rather have TSJ back than Hawkins. The kid doesn't even think about taking mid-range shots when one would think, with his stature, that that would be one of his best weapons. JMO
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I'd be ok with that. I think Hawkins really muddies things up for this squad. I like him as a player, and this isn't necessarily a "we're better off without him" statement, but I'd rather have TSJ back than Hawkins. The kid doesn't even think about taking mid-range shots when one would think, with his stature, that that would be one of his best weapons. JMO
I’m on board here.
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I’m on board here.
Agreed.
Plus Spark would get to stay… yippee! 😒
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Dennis at Michigan today and Baylor after that. Then back to Illinois.
No one is allowed to question this on Loyalty.
He is just enjoying free visits to schools.
I think the price for him is going up by the minute. Lol
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Dennis at Michigan today and Baylor after that. Then back to Illinois.
No one is allowed to question this on Loyalty.
He is just enjoying free visits to schools.
I think the price for him is going up by the minute. Lol
Maybe a white van with Free Candy written on it would sway him to Illinois?
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Maybe a white van with Free Candy written on it would sway him to Illinois?
Unfortunately that only works with 9 year old developmentally delayed little girls with no parental supervision.
NIT Squeaky Pedophile has a limited pool of potential targets.
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"It was one of the first things Leon Rice noticed when he saw RayJ Dennis in person during the recruiting process — the disparity in the size of his legs."
https://www.postregister.com/postregister/born-with-a-clubfoot-rayj-dennis-has-become-key-contributor-for-surging-boise-state/article_b47d08fa-f212-58f3-ad08-7452313e6116.html
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Remember when shoe companies steered prospects to certain schools? Now there is talk about agents.
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Remember when shoe companies steered prospects to certain schools? Now there is talk about agents.
Lol seems archaic. When’s the last time anyone heard of World Wide Wes?
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Interesting.TSJ wants a guaranteed deal.
https://twitter.com/mattzahnsports/status/1658934104119803906?s=20 (https://twitter.com/mattzahnsports/status/1658934104119803906?s=20)
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Interesting.
https://twitter.com/mattzahnsports/status/1658934104119803906?s=20 (https://twitter.com/mattzahnsports/status/1658934104119803906?s=20)
Very. I wonder if he has run this by dom?
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https://twitter.com/IllinoisOnBTN/status/1658949668724699136?s=20 (https://twitter.com/IllinoisOnBTN/status/1658949668724699136?s=20)
More. Hope this kid makes it at some point.
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Caleb Love a no go at Michigan.
They are going to pull up a Brinks truck for Dennis.
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Interesting.TSJ wants a guaranteed deal.
https://twitter.com/mattzahnsports/status/1658934104119803906?s=20 (https://twitter.com/mattzahnsports/status/1658934104119803906?s=20)
Smart kid.
If he gets a guarantee he should go. If he's going to be a 'maybe' guy waiting on draft night, he should come back.
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Caleb Love a no go at Michigan.
They are going to pull up a Brinks truck for Dennis.
Dickinson got less than six figures…
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It might be worth it for Juwan to write the check himself.
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Allegedly we are going to pursue Love also.
This is pretty interesting.
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Will be pretty disappointed if we get Love, he isn’t good.
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Adding Love doesn't move the T-ranking. Adding Guerrier dropped the T-ranking. LOL
Not confident this staff will ever make a Sweet 16. Hope they prove me wrong though.
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Please do not get Love 😩
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Supposedly one of TSJ or CH told staff they are returning and there will be another announcement also soon.
Who the fck knows.
We will see.
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If Truth loses the bet he's going to need to be banned because he's too much of a beta pussy to pay up.
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Supposedly one of TSJ or CH told staff they are returning and there will be another announcement also soon.
Who the fck knows.
We will see.
we got eliminated 1st rd last year with these guys
how would bringing them back help
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we got eliminated 1st rd last year with these guys
how would bringing them back help
Is this a real question?
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Is this a real question?
no i like to ask made up questions
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Is this a real question?
Consider the person asking it.
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I think with a true PG and a couple better shooters the offense should run better.
Maybe they can figure out how to do effective drop coverage without giving up 40 points to guys.
The rumour seems to be TSJ is the one who says he is coming back and CH is still deciding.
We will see.
Something is happening.
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Shannon's always been the most likely to come back, but if he announces that and we get Ray J I bet Coleman comes back too. Could be wrong.
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I like that Jasn88Cub has become critical guy. Jasn, you want Tourney titles or worthless B1G Titles?
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It’s NCAA titles now?
350 teams are failures, 349 play exclusively meaningless games every year?
Imagine if I’d told you five years ago “we’re going to be a tournament team the next four years including a one seed and a conference title and if you ask this board we’ve been shitty with no redeeming qualities and none of the success matters because we didn’t make the S16”. Would’ve been really difficult to believe you could’ve moved the goalposts so far, so fast.
I had literally never heard a single Illini fan claim that no games matter except the second weekend of the tournament on until they won the league and lost in the first weekend. Probably a coincidence.
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I had literally never heard a single Illini fan claim that no games matter except the second weekend of the tournament on until they won the league and lost in the first weekend. Probably a coincidence.
Nice Tempo-ish strawman you have constructed.
Again, the regular season, and possibly conference tournament, games are play-in games. If you do not make it to the The Tourney, it sucks and is a failed season. Plenty of people have bitched about not making it.
If you are Illinois and get in, the goal is to win it. Losing Sat/Sun has been a problem under the current regime. Plenty of people have bitched about this too.
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So, 118 seasons, 118 failures for Illinois basketball?
Why do you even still follow it then? If I thought that black-and-white I would do literally anything else.
It sounds no fun at all to follow a sport when you can't celebrate any success other than being the 1 of 351 teams to win the whole thing.
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So, 118 seasons, 118 failures for Illinois basketball?
Why do you even still follow it then? If I thought that black-and-white I would do literally anything else.
It sounds no fun at all to follow a sport when you can't celebrate any success other than being the 1 of 351 teams to win the whole thing.
I thought Lou Boudreau won a championship, so not 118 years.
I am rooting for them to fucking win one. I have a can of Dirt Cheep beer in the beer fridge I bought in St. Louis the weekend of the Final Four that I intend to drink when they win it all.
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Sounds absolutely fucking miserable.
You mock somebody for being happy we won the Big Ten in 2022 but the retroactive 1915 Premo-Poretta Championship (awarded in 1995) is pulling a lot of weight for you?
Do you mock people when they pretend the '89 or '05 team weren't failures?
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Sounds absolutely fucking miserable.
You mock somebody for being happy we won the Big Ten in 2022 but the retroactive 1915 Premo-Poretta Championship (awarded in 1995) is pulling a lot of weight for you?
You actually sound miserable, to be honest, Spark. Always so angry these days. Even with Lkdog and Jasn88Cub.
I will defer to Nichi, but I do not believe Lou Boudreau was there in 1915.
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Do you mock people when they pretend the '89 or '05 team weren't failures?
I don't recall any specific instances. But I have not seen anyone say either team met their ultimate expectations. A simple block out would have been nice in '89.
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You actually sound miserable, to be honest, Spark. Always so angry these days. Even with Lkdog and Jasn88Cub.
I will defer to Nichi, but I do not believe Lou Boudreau was there in 1915.
Well that's the only national title Illinois claims. 1915. Awarded by Helms and the other org retroactively.
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I don't recall any specific instances. But I have not seen anyone say either team met their ultimate expectations. A simple block out would have been nice in '89.
Failures!
If you liked those teams you're stupid, they failed!
It's just the most baldly stupid argument I've ever seen made about college basketball.
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Failures!
If you liked those teams you're stupid, they failed!
It's just the most baldly stupid argument I've ever seen made about college basketball.
I can like those teams even while acknowledging they failed in their ultimate objective.
When did you become Tempo with these arguments?
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I can like those teams even while acknowledging they failed in their ultimate objective.
When did you become Tempo with these arguments?
Why would you like a failure? That's loser stuff.
This isn't Tempo stuff man - unless by that you mean it's a better argument than yours - this is the argument YOU are making to ME. You're mocking me for being happy we won our conference. It's absurd.
I liked all of those teams, because winning a bunch of games and winning conference titles and hanging banners and having All American players is fun whether you eventually lose before you "meet your ultimate goal" or not.
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Why would you like a failure? That's loser stuff.
This isn't Tempo stuff man - this is the argument YOU are making to ME. You're mocking me for being happy we won our conference. It's absurd.
I liked all of those teams, because winning a bunch of games and winning conference titles and hanging banners and having All American players is fun whether you eventually lose before you "meet your ultimate goal" or not.
1. No, it is not the argument I am making to you. That is the argument you are making, ala Tempo.
2. That you are satisfied with all those things is on you. You must be very happy. I think it is shortsighted. So you are correct there.
3. I think you understate how many people are not just satisfied with B1G titles, though. I have nothing scientific to back that up, but most Illini fans out there seem perpetually dissatisfied for one reason or another. A lot like White Sox fans.
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Yes, a lot of Illini fans seem to enjoy being miserable, and when things start going well they do whatever they can to poke holes in it - including resorting to obvious bad faith arguments to justify a distaste for the coach who led us to that success. He's the first coach we've had in two decades that's proven he can build a winner here and this board is less likely to defend him than they are Bruce Weber.
And no, again, it's exactly what you're saying to me. You are mocking me all over multiple threads for thinking winning a Big Ten title is a successful year. You said if the Illini are in the tourney, the goal is to win it; and if they don't, they are a failure. Those are things you have said to me directly today. But you only apply that to the Underwood team. I have never seen you jump out on someone saying the 2005 team was successful to mock them for celebrating a failure. Which is good, because that'd be stupid as fuck.
Would I be more happy with the 20-21 or 21-22 teams if they had won the title? Of course. There are levels of success. The 20-21 and 21-22 teams certainly aren't our best teams ever. Does that mean I look back on a Big Ten champ or a 1-seed or just a great team who didn't win the NCAA title and just think "failure", or think it makes sense to mock someone for thinking maybe if you hang a banner in your gym you had a pretty successful season? That no games count until the second weekend of the tournament, everything else is play-in? No, because that's silly absolutist, black-and-white thinking.
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[1] And no, again, it's exactly what you're saying to me. You are mocking me all over multiple threads for thinking winning a Big Ten title is a successful year. You said if the Illini are in the tourney, the goal is to win it; and if they don't, they are a failure. Those are things you have said to me directly today. [2] But you only apply that to the Underwood team.
[1] This is true. What was untrue, and to which I was referring, was the first part of that post about why cheer for failures, etc. I had thought about adding "[1]" "[2]" etc. to your post so it could be understood what I was referencing in each paragraph. Sorry that was not clear.
[2] Losing as a 1-seed was the biggest issue in quite some time. But I do not know the last time there was a discussion of 89 [chump edit] or 05. Those teams definitely failed in their objectives though. I do not see how you can say otherwise.
[3] There is absolutely nothing wrong with failing, as long as you learn something from it and get back up and try again.
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Sorry, was "why cheer for failures?" not a fair inference from you going to multiple threads including on the football board to mock the notion that a Big Ten title might be something to celebrate?
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Sorry, was "why cheer for failures?" not a fair inference from you going to multiple threads including on the football board to mock the notion that a Big Ten title might be something to celebrate?
Yes, it was. You should know by now I root for a bunch of failures....White Sox, Bears, Blackhawks, Illini, Democrats, architects who ride bicycles without stopping at stop signs...
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There was no national championship game when Lou Boudreau played. They won the Big Ten in 1937, his sophomore season.
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Was that your senior year?
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PAMan has gone full Robb and then some with the Tempo references and memes. He should be embarrassed, but I assure you he’s not. Intellectually lazy. Just looking for a good troll. That’s what sustains him.
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If you are Illinois and get in, the goal is to win it. Losing Sat/Sun has been a problem under the current regime our entire existence. Plenty of people have bitched about this too.
Fixed it for ya.
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Fixed it for ya.
True
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PAMan has gone full Robb and then some with the Tempo references and memes. He should be embarrassed, but I assure you he’s not. Intellectually lazy. Just looking for a good troll. That’s what sustains him.
You have quite a few bad takes for a guy who claims to be right all the time.
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You have quite a few bad takes for a guy who claims to be right all the time.
You must have me confused with Truth. I’ve admitted to being wrong plenty of times. And I often allow for the fact that I could be wrong. I get mocked for it. If I go too strong on my takes, I get mocked. If I don’t go strong enough, I get mocked. That’s how the game is played here.
What am I guilty of “claiming I’m right on,” at the moment? That ESB dropped a game ending pass on 4th down, or that JF (could) actually improve as a passer? Oooooohhhh, you got me. No one here is more cocksure of their opinions than you (minus Truth).
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Was that your senior year?
;D
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Supposedly one of TSJ or CH told staff they are returning and there will be another announcement also soon.
Who the fck knows.
We will see.
Stop reading Illinois Loyalty. Those people are fucking retarded
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Stop reading Illinois Loyalty. Those people are fucking retarded
Hilarious comment coming from the NIT Village Idiot.
If it goes like they claim, you are gone.
Let's hope they are right since Custard thinks it is entertaining for the board to have a loser psychopath sanctuary for you here.
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Hilarious comment coming from the NIT Village Idiot.
If it goes like they claim, you are gone.
Let's hope they are right since Custard thinks it is entertaining for the board to have a loser psychopath sanctuary for you here.
Here’s what’s going to happen:
You’re gonna cut and run when I’m right. Just like you left after the 30 point beatdown Mizzou delivered.
Sparky’s gone.
You’re next on my list.
After that Nichi.
I’m gonna systematically eliminate every idiot poster on this board thru winning bets.
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Hilarious comment coming from the NIT Village Idiot.
If it goes like they claim, you are gone.
Let's hope they are right since Custard thinks it is entertaining for the board to have a loser psychopath sanctuary for you here.
Dumbassinic will do the "I really didn't say that" shtick shit that he always gives us.
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Only in Dominic's world does 22 = 30.
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Here’s what’s going to happen:
You’re gonna cut and run when I’m right. Just like you left after the 30 point beatdown Mizzou delivered.
Sparky’s gone.
You’re next on my list.
After that Nichi.
I’m gonna systematically eliminate every idiot poster on this board thru winning bets.
Add paranoid delusional to your diagnosis.
What a sad fuck you are.
No job.
Unemployable.
Afraid of adult women.
$500k in debt.
Please skip the part where you engage in an angry loser white Fcktard mass shooting and just turn the gun on yourself first.
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Stop reading Illinois Loyalty. Those people are fucking retarded
Dom sweating here.
If you lose you’re getting banned. Not gonna let you weasel out again. You won’t man up so we’ll have to do it for you.
Enjoy your last couple days with a board that lets you post on it bud.
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Dom sweating here.
He is known for his sweating.
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Dom sweating here.
If you lose you’re getting banned. Not gonna let you weasel out again. You won’t man up so we’ll have to do it for you.
Enjoy your last couple days with a board that lets you post on it bud.
There’s 0 chance Terrence Shannon comes back to Illinois. 0.
He’s a top 45 pick.
He’s old.
Illinois sucks.
So you got 9 days left and then you can go back to the Scout board and talk to the 3 people on there that will even talk back to you.
You and swank have killed that board. I haven’t seen as low of traffic on there ever. Congratulations.
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Add paranoid delusional to your diagnosis.
What a sad fuck you are.
No job.
Unemployable.
Afraid of adult women.
$500k in debt.
Please skip the part where you engage in an angry loser white Fcktard mass shooting and just turn the gun on yourself first.
I have nothing to be angry about. I’m living a retired life in paradise.
The only thing that angers me is reading such batshit ignorant sports takes on here that it gives me a brain aneurysm.
You got Sparky/Nichi claiming an NBA 1st Rd pick wasn’t good enough to play over a scrub like Damonte Williams. And I like Damonte personally, but he’s not a very good basketball player. Podz is NBA level.
Too many liberals on this board that combine just all around ignorant thoughts that even seep into sports where there is a scoreboard that tells you who is right.
Podz= NBA
Damonte= YMCA
Scoreboard
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Dom sounds more stupid with every post. It reminds me of the McLaurin vs Henry debates, only it's dumber.
Monte and Podz would not even play the same role. Podz was never going to be guarding post players.
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I’ll miss his NFL takes the most.
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Squeaky's more likely to pay the $500k he owes his prior employer than honoring a bet.
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“You can’t go replace those guys, and you can’t get anybody to come because you might get them back,” Underwood said. “It handcuffs you a little bit.”
https://www.news-gazette.com/newsletter/content/sports/illini_basketball/brad-underwood-its-an-uneasy-time-of-year/article_6fcddd16-0928-5b31-a143-3a434100cc3e.html
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Dom sounds more stupid with every post. It reminds me of the McLaurin vs Henry debates, only it's dumber.
Monte and Podz would not even play the same role. Podz was never going to be guarding post players.
A 6’5 guy with a 39 inch vertical, who lead the WCC in rebounding, could certainly battle in the post just as well as YMCA Dad Bod Damonte
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Again.
Podz= 1st Rd NBA draft pick
Damonte= YMCA
Scoreboard.
All my correct predictions:
Scoreboard.
Brad Underwood Big 10 record without Kofi: 31-45
Scoreboard.
I’m right, you’re wrong. Thee end.
Sparky’s gone.
Nichi, and LKDog- you two faggots are next
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Again.
Podz= 1st Rd NBA draft pick
Damonte= YMCA
Scoreboard.
All my correct predictions:
Scoreboard.
Brad Underwood Big 10 record without Kofi: 31-45
Scoreboard.
I’m right, you’re wrong. Thee end.
Sparky’s gone.
Nichi, and LKDog- you two faggots are next
Just STFU NIT Fcktard.
Nobody really cares what a broke pedophile paranoid borderline personality disorder says or thinks.
If we are lucky Custard pulls the plug on you this week.
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A 6’5 guy with a 39 inch vertical, who lead the WCC in rebounding, could certainly battle in the post just as well as YMCA Dad Bod Damonte
Podz measured 6-3 3/4 in socks; with a 6-5 1/2 wingspan. That is not plus length. His lane drill was meh too. A 39" running vertical is nice, but position post defense is not played in the air.
Da'monte would probably measure 6-2 ish in socks. His wingspan is almost 7 feet. That is ultra plus length. He probably has 20 lbs of more on Podz as well. He also had 4 years of D-1 experience guarding all 5 positions.
If you think freshman Podz could've guarded EJ Liddell, you are dumber than we thought.
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Nobody on Illinois could guard EJ Liddell. At least Podz is a threat to score and rebound. Damonte Williams couldn’t do either.
On what planet are Luke Goode and RJ Melendez better basketball players than Podz?
They weren’t. Podz wasn’t gonna stick around to wait fur Underwood to get it.
Now Podz is an NBA player
RJ’s gone
Damonte is playing YMCA ball.
Luke Goode is here and he stinks.
Way to go Underwood. What excellent talent evaluation….
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Nobody on Illinois could guard EJ Liddell. At least Podz is a threat to score and rebound. Damonte Williams couldn’t do either.
On what planet are Luke Goode and RJ Melendez better basketball players than Podz?
They weren’t. Podz wasn’t gonna stick around to wait fur Underwood to get it.
Now Podz is an NBA player
RJ’s gone
Damonte is playing YMCA ball.
Luke Goode is here and he stinks.
Way to go Underwood. What excellent talent evaluation….
It is May.
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Rumours of a Dennis switch to Utah.
Meltdown happening now on Loyalty.
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Yuri Collins has alot of smoke on Loyalty, kid states he never would want to play in anything other than a Billiken uni? Not sure I buy the hype here.
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Well, the new landscape is entertaining.
Will see how it works out.
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Stop reading Illinois Loyalty. Those people are fucking retarded
Just sticky this comment.
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Great Article:
I think the middle of this is telling as to how BU and potentially Calipari would have done actually the same thing as far as Podz is concerned.
https://sports.yahoo.com/one-time-kentucky-recruiting-target-110000036.html
Reality is Podz, played great in HS, no one could see him, a way underrated under the radar player obviously that would have been limited at either program and probably the results would have ended up being exactly as they are.
That said, this kid is NOT lottery imo, C'mon now!!
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Dennis gone.
Passed up $300k more from Illinois allegedly.
Onto Plan B.
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So do we believe the Loyalty guys actually do have inside info now?
There's gotta be SOMEBODY who can acknowledge it's kind of funny we have a whole thread shitting on them for not really being insiders, but then still uncritically repeat what they say as fact.
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So do we believe the Loyalty guys actually do have inside info now?
There's gotta be SOMEBODY who can acknowledge it's kind of funny we have a whole thread shitting on them for not really being insiders, but then still uncritically repeat what they say as fact.
Oh I think they hear stuff they repeat from people on the fringes of staff and media.
How accurate it is always a question but you can say that about the crystal ball guys also.
Plenty of paid analysts had this kid going to Illinois.
It's entertaining. I know guys in the media and more often than not they never know for sure on a recruitment.
All I care about is getting a competitive team.
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Dennis gone.
Passed up $300k more from Illinois allegedly.
Onto Plan B.
And what is the analysis on WHY he passed it up? Because his dad hates Underachiever? He likes Mormons?
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And what is the analysis on WHY he passed it up? Because his dad hates Underachiever? He likes Mormons?
Who knows. I think it is clearly a miss and it was very public recruitment for weeks that Illinois was viewed as leader in.
Could be any number of things and staff did not get the job done.
Will see how they pivot here.
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And what is the analysis on WHY he passed it up? Because his dad hates Underachiever? He likes Mormons?
Salty parents.
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Who knows. I think it is clearly a miss and it was very public recruitment for weeks that Illinois was viewed as leader in.
Could be any number of things and staff did not get the job done.
Will see how they pivot here.
How dare you levy such harsh criticisms. Did NU and DePaul not miss on him, too?
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And what is the analysis on WHY he passed it up? Because his dad hates Underachiever? He likes Mormons?
Let me make one theory up, since that’s all the rage. His dad doesn’t like the way Underwood yells at black kids.
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Let me make one theory up, since that’s all the rage. His dad doesn’t like the way Underwood yells at black kids.
I have read that his trainer is buddies with the Utah coach. That being said, hard to believe that Illinois hasn't offered to outspend Utah. But maybe that is not what is important to the kid?
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I have read that his trainer is buddies with the Utah coach. That being said, hard to believe that Illinois hasn't offered to outspend Utah. But maybe that is not what is important to the kid?
He really likes the weather and snowboarding. No idea, but I made that up and I’m sticking with it.
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He really likes the weather and snowboarding. No idea, but I made that up and I’m sticking with it.
Maybe he was an NIU fan growing up. Closer to Oswego than Champaign.
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Salty parents.
Not even a remote possibility his parents didn't like him getting passed on, what a ridiculous notion.
It's impossible.
That's literally what you're saying - not a possibility. And even better, you think that stance is "logical".
It seems like you believe you're arguing against someone who is saying "This is what happened, his parents were upset Illinois weren't interested in RayJ before", and the fact that no one is saying that isn't relevant to you.
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He really likes the weather and snowboarding. No idea, but I made that up and I’m sticking with it.
You think you're sticking one to me here, but you're notably doing what I was specifically not doing. I know that doesn't matter to you, and you will just pretend I am "making it up and sticking with it" no matter what I say, but I'm going to point out: you are flat out lying.
I wish you could have an honest discussion, one time, without lying a dozen times about what I said but it is clear after a decade or so that you aren't capable of that. You HAVE to win an argument, and if you have to just lie about what somebody said to do it, who cares? You won.
One of the two of us has made a bunch of assumptions and projections about RayJ Dennis and stuck to them, but it sure isn't me.
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I have read that his trainer is buddies with the Utah coach. That being said, hard to believe that Illinois hasn't offered to outspend Utah. But maybe that is not what is important to the kid?
Impossible. I can't believe you'd assume that and stick to it.
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Well he did spend his formative years in Illinois so he has plenty of experience with how much it sucks living there which is probably why he is going to beautiful Utah.
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Lol. Agree. Downstate Illinois is kind of a shit hole.
University towns are better.
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Well he did spend his formative years in Illinois so he has plenty of experience with how much it sucks living there which is probably why he is going to beautiful Utah.
https://newschannel20.com/news/local/happy-place-illinois-ranked-2nd-happiest-state-in-the-country-per-new-study
All the Sad Sallys have apparently left the state!
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https://newschannel20.com/news/local/happy-place-illinois-ranked-2nd-happiest-state-in-the-country-per-new-study
All the Sad Sallys have apparently left the state!
gonna cast some doubt on that study if Masshole is #1 happiest state and jersey at #4 lol
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https://newschannel20.com/news/local/happy-place-illinois-ranked-2nd-happiest-state-in-the-country-per-new-study
All the Sad Sallys have apparently left the state!
I’m sorry, but there’s no fuckin way.
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https://newschannel20.com/news/local/happy-place-illinois-ranked-2nd-happiest-state-in-the-country-per-new-study
All the Sad Sallys have apparently left the state!
Hilarious.
Side note: I know a dude from Mississippi and he is kind of a miserable sumbitch. Maybe it's because he likes to argue with miserable 40 year olds on the Lawrence Welk forum.
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gonna cast some doubt on that study if Masshole is #1 happiest state and jersey at #4 lol
Ex 1 proving the validity of the study....
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I’m sorry, but there’s no fuckin way.
Ex 2 proving the validity of the study....
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Not even a remote possibility his parents didn't like him getting passed on, what a ridiculous notion.
It's impossible.
That's literally what you're saying - not a possibility. And even better, you think that stance is "logical".
It seems like you believe you're arguing against someone who is saying "This is what happened, his parents were upset Illinois weren't interested in RayJ before", and the fact that no one is saying that isn't relevant to you.
I think it’s 100x more likely Rayj has real interest in playing for Illinois than that he has salty parents or he even has hard feelings being passed over out of HS. Maybe 200.
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Again, I’m not making fun of you because you’re saying that’s what happened. I’m making fun of you because you pulled a totally unlikely reason he’s not coming here theory out of your ass, and seem to find it “totally plausible!”
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I think it’s 100x more likely Rayj has real interest in playing for Illinois than that he has salty parents or he even has hard feelings being passed over out of HS. Maybe 200.
Then why isn't he (allegedly)?
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I’m sorry, but there’s no fuckin way.
Yeah, have to agree with Custard here.
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Then why isn't he (allegedly)?
Likes snowboarding. Trainer is buddies with coach. Pissed about being passed over out of HS.
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You think you're sticking one to me here, but you're notably doing what I was specifically not doing. I know that doesn't matter to you, and you will just pretend I am "making it up and sticking with it" no matter what I say, but I'm going to point out: you are flat out lying.
I wish you could have an honest discussion, one time, without lying a dozen times about what I said but it is clear after a decade or so that you aren't capable of that. You HAVE to win an argument, and if you have to just lie about what somebody said to do it, who cares? You won.
One of the two of us has made a bunch of assumptions and projections about RayJ Dennis and stuck to them, but it sure isn't me.
JFC talk about holier than thou. You ask me to not to do something, yet repeatedly do the same things to me over and over. C’mon, Spark. You’re better than this. You misrepresent my opinions all of the time.
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I think it’s 100x more likely Rayj has real interest in playing for Illinois than that he has salty parents or he even has hard feelings being passed over out of HS. Maybe 200.
I know this is a complex thought for you, but both things you mention here could absolutely be true.
The entire point is that you and I simply do not have the information we'd need to make such a judgment. Any judgment we make is going to be based on assumptions.
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JFC talk about holier than thou. You ask me to not to do something, yet repeatedly do the same things to me over and over. C’mon, Spark. You’re better than this. You misrepresent my opinions all of the time.
Give me an example.
I am the only dude who stands up for you here when the rest of these morons act like you thought Reggie Theus was the only answer for us, and yet you treat me just like they treat you, every single time we argue.
You make up a take, extrapolate wildly from what I actually said, and argue against that while totally disregarding the dozens of times I say "no dude that is not what I'm saying" - you don't care, you're not even listening.
You're still railing on "spark thinks Trubisky and Mahomes are comparable!" and "spark thinks Illinois and Northwestern are comparable!" and "spark thinks Illinois and Arizona State are comparable" even though you know, because I have told you a combined probably 500 times, that I didn't say or believe any of those things. You simply don't care what I actually think or am saying, you're miles away already, running with the take YOU invented for me.
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Yes, both could be true. One a lot more likely than the other, though.
Do you really think the theory that he’s passing over Illinois because they are salty is at all likely? Why not just tell them to pound sand? Didn’t he make a visit? Seems overly petty to go through all that just to have the pleasure of saying “no.”
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So do we believe the Loyalty guys actually do have inside info now?
There's gotta be SOMEBODY who can acknowledge it's kind of funny we have a whole thread shitting on them for not really being insiders, but then still uncritically repeat what they say as fact.
I don’t believe anything they say. It’s all been proven wrong.
And they may think this “300k” story is helping the program by basically suggesting “We did all we could”. But it’s the exact opposite.
If a company offers an employee 300,000 more for one year of service, and they still don’t sign. Then either that employee hates the company, hates his coworkers, or hates his boss.
It makes Illinois look even worse
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Likes snowboarding. Trainer is buddies with coach. Pissed about being passed over out of HS.
Those are real reasons someone could make this choice, yeah. There are lots of others, too, as I've mentioned - including that Underwood fucked up, that Underwood's a racist, etc.
You're trying to sell these as unreasonable things, but they aren't. Location matters; relationship with coaching staffs matters. No one is saying that that's what happened here, but there are some of us willing to acknowledge that we have no idea what happened here and not just write off very real possibilities because they're not what we assume probably happened.
If you think you know what happened with RayJ Dennis feel free to continue claiming it as fact. I'm not going to pretend I know, because I don't and lying isn't really for me.
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Dude, I’m not going down the Trubisky hole again, but you absolutely made the case that Trubisky “was playing about as well as Mahomes” and used stats to do it. I have to paraphrase because it was so long ago and that whole conversation was scrubbed. It was a ridiculous take then, and looks even way more ridiculous now.
Question: do you still think the Bears won the Khalil Mack trade?
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Yes, both could be true. One a lot more likely than the other, though.
Do you really think the theory that he’s passing over Illinois because they are salty is at all likely? Why not just tell them to pound sand? Didn’t he make a visit? Seems overly petty to go through all that just to have the pleasure of saying “no.”
I have nevet met RayJ, how in the fuck would I have the information I'd need to tell you which is more likely? How do you?
You obviously seem to think you know what happened here, but you don't.
I have been pretty fucking clear, have I not? I don't know what happened here. Do I think the fact that we didn't look at him in HS could've played into it? Yeah, of course it could've. It'd be the peak of meatheadedness to just act like that's not a thing that happens. That doesn't mean he wasn't seriously considering us or was trying to fuck us over or anything either, you added that bit to make it sound worse. That's possible too, I simply do not have the information I'd need to judge that.
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If Rayj never had any real interest in coming here, I don’t think we’d have been the landing spot experts were picking for several weeks. Why wouldn’t he just tell them to pound sand from the word jump?
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Dude, I’m not going down the Trubisky hole again, but you absolutely made the case that Trubisky “was playing about as well as Mahomes” and used stats to do it. I have to paraphrase because it was so long ago and that whole conversation was scrubbed. It was a ridiculous take then, and looks even way more ridiculous now.
Question: do you still think the Bears won the Khalil Mack trade?
Well, depends on the goal. If the goal was to build a team that could contend with their QB on a rookie deal? Yeah, that was a win. They were certainly better than they'd have been without Mack. The QB didn't work out though, so if the goal was to win a super bowl - which I assume it was - then no, it didn't work out how they planned. I'm not sure the Raiders were any better off all things considered, though.
And yes, again, you're leaving out a pretty notable bit of my take here to make it sound unreasonable. You do it literally every. single. time. I've explained what I was saying literally a hundred times to you, and you simply don't listen, move on, and repeat the lie next time.
Trubisky, when I said it, WAS playing about as well as Mahomes over the previous three weeks, which as you know since you're being honest and not lying about my position, is exactly and specifically what I was talking to make a point about judging a dude's career potential on his first 15 games.
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I have nevet met RayJ, how in the fuck would I have the information I'd need to tell you which is more likely? How do you?
You obviously seem to think you know what happened here, but you don't.
I have been pretty fucking clear, have I not? I don't know what happened here. Do I think the fact that we didn't look at him in HS could've played into it? Yeah, of course it could've. It'd be the peak of meatheadedness to just act like that's not a thing that happens. That doesn't mean he wasn't seriously considering us or was trying to fuck us over or anything either, you added that bit to make it sound worse. That's possible too, I simply do not have the information I'd need to judge that.
Again, this is why I’m making fun of you. You think your cockamamie theory is just as plausible as he has actual real interest in playing here.
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If Rayj never had any real interest in coming here, I don’t think we’d have been the landing spot experts were picking for several weeks. Why wouldn’t he just tell them to pound sand from the word jump?
When I find someone claiming RayJ never had any real interest in coming here, I'll ask them.
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Again, this is why I’m making fun of you. You think your cockamamie theory is just as plausible as he has actual real interest in playing here.
And this is why -I- am making fun of -you- - because you pretend you know what happened here when you actually have no idea at all, and find it worthy of mockery when someone admits they don't have any idea.
You pretend you know, so when someone admits they don't you mock them. But your dirty little secret here is, you have absolutely no fucking clue what happened with RayJ. None. You can pretend you do and mock the people who tell the truth and admit they don't all you want, and you STILL won't know what happened here.
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Well, depends on the goal. If the goal was to build a team that could contend with their QB on a rookie deal? Yeah, that was a win. They were certainly better than they'd have been without Mack. The QB didn't work out though, so if the goal was to win a super bowl - which I assume it was - then no, it didn't work out how they planned. I'm not sure the Raiders were any better off all things considered, though.
And yes, again, you're leaving out a pretty notable bit of my take here to make it sound unreasonable. You do it literally every. single. time. I've explained what I was saying literally a hundred times to you, and you simply don't listen, move on, and repeat the lie next time.
Trubisky, when I said it, WAS playing about as well as Mahomes over the previous three weeks, which as you know since you're being honest and not lying about my position, is exactly and specifically what I was talking to make a point about judging a dude's career potential on his first 15 games.
The goal was to win playoff games and eventually the Super Bowl. Anyone can trade for a great player with a rookie quarterback under contract. I could do that.
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The goal was to win playoff games and eventually the Super Bowl. Anyone can trade for a great player with a rookie quarterback under contract. I could do that.
If your bar for the trade was "did they win the Super Bowl?" then yeah, it was obviously a failure.
It's a fair bar to set, they were obviously going into "win now" mode. And they were a hell of a lot better with Mack than without him, but still didn't win in the playoffs.
So did the Raiders win the Mack trade then?
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They had to spend $150 million which knee capped them in free agency for several years, and spent two 1st round picks on zero playoff wins. That’s a loss. Period. Last year was the echo of that failure.
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If your bar for the trade was "did they win the Super Bowl?" then yeah, it was obviously a failure.
It's a fair bar to set, they were obviously going into "win now" mode. And they were a hell of a lot better with Mack than without him, but still didn't win in the playoffs.
Did they win a playoff game?
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They had to spend $150 million which knee capped them in free agency for several years, and spent two 1st round picks on zero playoff wins. That’s a loss. Period. Last year was the echo of that failure.
Okay, fair. The Raiders won the Mack trade. They didn't fare any better, but if it makes you STFU about it, sure - the Raiders won.
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Again, last years’ 3-13 was the dying echo of that regime and that trade. It was a failure. The funny part is Mack peaked for the Bears in the first half of his first game. A loss.
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Likes snowboarding. Trainer is buddies with coach. Pissed about being passed over out of HS.
But not Underachiever. Hmmmmmm....
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Give me an example.
I am the only dude who stands up for you here when the rest of these morons act like you thought Reggie Theus was the only answer for us, and yet you treat me just like they treat you, every single time we argue.
You make up a take, extrapolate wildly from what I actually said, and argue against that while totally disregarding the dozens of times I say "no dude that is not what I'm saying" - you don't care, you're not even listening.
You're still railing on "spark thinks Trubisky and Mahomes are comparable!" and "spark thinks Illinois and Northwestern are comparable!" and "spark thinks Illinois and Arizona State are comparable" even though you know, because I have told you a combined probably 500 times, that I didn't say or believe any of those things. You simply don't care what I actually think or am saying, you're miles away already, running with the take YOU invented for me.
You forgot Craig Robinson. He was also part of the mix.
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Yes, both could be true. One a lot more likely than the other, though.
Do you really think the theory that he’s passing over Illinois because they are salty is at all likely? Why not just tell them to pound sand? Didn’t he make a visit? Seems overly petty to go through all that just to have the pleasure of saying “no.”
Some people play the long game. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
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Dude, I’m not going down the Trubisky hole again, but you absolutely made the case that Trubisky “was playing about as well as Mahomes” and used stats to do it. I have to paraphrase because it was so long ago and that whole conversation was scrubbed. It was a ridiculous take then, and looks even way more ridiculous now.
Question: do you still think the Bears won the Khalil Mack trade?
Says "not going down Trubisky hole again" then proceeds to go down Trubisky hole, again.
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Says "not going down Trubisky hole again" then proceeds to go down Trubisky hole, again.
I posted once about Trubisky (and the Mahomes take).
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I consider a “hole” deeper than one post. YMMV.
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Okay, fair. The Raiders won the Mack trade. They didn't fare any better, but if it makes you STFU about it, sure - the Raiders won.
What the Raiders did with those picks is pretty inconsequential to the Bears. It had no outcome on the Bears whatsoever.
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What’s Trubisky’s 3pt shooting percentage? How are his handles?
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Give me an example.
I am the only dude who stands up for you here when the rest of these morons act like you thought Reggie Theus was the only answer for us, and yet you treat me just like they treat you, every single time we argue.
You make up a take, extrapolate wildly from what I actually said, and argue against that while totally disregarding the dozens of times I say "no dude that is not what I'm saying" - you don't care, you're not even listening.
You're still railing on "spark thinks Trubisky and Mahomes are comparable!" and "spark thinks Illinois and Northwestern are comparable!" and "spark thinks Illinois and Arizona State are comparable" even though you know, because I have told you a combined probably 500 times, that I didn't say or believe any of those things. You simply don't care what I actually think or am saying, you're miles away already, running with the take YOU invented for me.
And I appreciate that. I also called you smart and a good dude two hours ago. I think you genuinely come from an honest place, but sometimes act like any little bit of criticism is a call to fire the coach and burn the program down. You’re a bit hyper-sensitive sometimes. And again, you twist and misrepresent my opinions all of the time. So please don’t act like I’m the only one that does it. It’s an effective debate tactic when all we have is this forum, and explaining our positions is harder than it might be in person. I expect some of that tbh.
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What’s Trubisky’s 3pt shooting percentage? How are his handles?
Is he from the suburbs?
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What the Raiders did with those picks is pretty inconsequential to the Bears. It had no outcome on the Bears whatsoever.
I thought we were discussing who won the trade, though?
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And I appreciate that. I also called you smart and a good dude two hours ago. I think you genuinely come from an honest place, but sometimes act like any little bit of criticism is a call to fire the coach and burn the program down. You’re a bit hyper-sensitive sometimes. And again, you twist and misrepresent my opinions all of the time. So please don’t act like I’m the only one that does it. It’s an effective debate tactic when all we have is this forum, and explaining our positions is harder than it might be in person. I expect some of that tbh.
I honestly can't think of any single thing that I repeatedly claim you believe or said that you didn't, and that you've told me over and over "no this isn't what i meant". Can you give me an example?
I respect you, so if I were to run off for years with a blatant misrepresentation of your opinion, and you'd told me over and over over those years that it's a blatant misrepresentation of your opinion, I would not continue to state it as if it was a fact every time it comes up.
I'm sure I have attempted to summarize your point and failed before, but I have never to my knowledge intentionally misrepresented something you said for years, over hundreds of objections and explanations, and continued running with it despite it being explained to me a hundred times.
Like, I made fun of you for being into Reggie Theus at the time, but I also recognize that what you really said was, it could be worse than Theus. I don't know if I totally agree, but if I were still going on like others do about how you thought Theus was THE answer, that's more like what you do to me. I wouldn't say that, because I know it isn't true - and I actively try to point out it's false when other people do it to you. I don't think I do that to you, but if you can provide an example of me doing it I'll admit to it.
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You exaggerate my points all the time for effect. And to shoot them down. I obviously do it as well. Every time I lob the slightest hint of criticism toward Underwood you come out guns a blazin’ and rant about how crazy it is to want Underwood fired.
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Even “that’s a bad look” (which isn’t a highly controversial take, many would agree) gets pages and pages and pages of push back.
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And again, suffering a slight bit of embarrassment over missing on a local kid isn’t the end of the world. I’ve conceded many times, it happens. But Anthony Davis is one thing. Rayj Dennis is another. You stub your toe, you move on. No one gets fired or marked with a scarlet letter.
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https://newschannel20.com/news/local/happy-place-illinois-ranked-2nd-happiest-state-in-the-country-per-new-study
All the Sad Sallys have apparently left the state!
The North vs the South. Lol
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And there you have it
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And there you have it
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Is the trainer from Oswego too ?
CBB Content
@CBBcontent
May 23
A school to closely monitor for Toledo transfer RayJ Dennis is Utah.
The Utes have a legit shot to land the MAC player of the year.
Dennis’ trainer is long time friends with Utah HC Craig Smith.
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Would love to have this kid Darrion Sutton from St. Louis become an ILLINI with Johnson and Hansberry and his versatility....
https://www.yardbarker.com/college_basketball/articles/illinois_basketball_offers_versatile_2024_wing/s1_17169_38848024
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And there you have it
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Who? None of these guys were at Boise State. This info is easily verifiable
https://utahutes.com/sports/mens-basketball/coaches
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Who? None of these guys were at Boise State. This info is easily verifiable
https://utahutes.com/sports/mens-basketball/coaches
Guess the "assistant" is the trainer MN mentioned who's friends with the Utah HC who wasn't actually hired by them.
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Apparently this thing is still dragging out.
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Apparently this thing is still dragging out.
Thanks for actual info on recruiting buddy 👍
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Apparently this thing is still dragging out.
It's sounding like we significantly upped the ante.
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Thank God for legal cheating!
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Cannnnn I hear a 300,000, a 325,000, a 350,000, NIL auction house going full steam?
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Next time somebody here gives the Loyalty board shit for not having real insider information, remember this saga.
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Next time somebody here gives the Loyalty board shit for not having real insider information, remember this saga.
I think most all of what they imply is already out there at legit media sites.
And those legit sites don't know what is going on half the time.
It is entertaining for sure.
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https://twitter.com/matthewcstevens/status/1661735431871037442?s=20 (https://twitter.com/matthewcstevens/status/1661735431871037442?s=20)
TSJ info FWIW.
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CBS draft rankings updated.
Shannon and Hawkins on the board later 2nd Rd.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankings/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankings/)
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I think most all of what they imply is already out there at legit media sites.
And those legit sites don't know what is going on half the time.
It is entertaining for sure.
But come on - we have a nearly 50-page thread about how the loyalty insiders don't know shit, but within that thread more or less every person - including jasn, who started the thread, and Truth, who talks more shit about Loyalty than anybody - takes the 'loyalty insiders' word as gospel.
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But come on - we have a nearly 50-page thread about how the loyalty insiders don't know shit, but within that thread more or less every person - including jasn, who started the thread, and Truth, who talks more shit about Loyalty than anybody - takes the 'loyalty insiders' word as gospel.
I think most normal people take it as a source of gossip and entertainment. Sometimes they are on target and sometimes not.
Some people pit themselves in a fictitious imaginary battle with them and sign up with multiple accounts there and then get banned after spewing some bizarre delusional thoughts.
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Don’t really need to ask who you mean.
But pretty much everything we’ve talked about here - RayJ being a lock, RayJ going to Utah, RayJ being undecided - I go take a peek at the loyalty board and yep, posted there a few minutes before. I hadn’t looked there for years but man that board’s a nightmare to navigate.
Peoriaman’s doing the same thing on scout.
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Peoriaman’s doing the same thing on scout.
Are we sure he has not moved into suburban Peoria, like Washington?
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Depends on whether you're mocking him for constantly railing on Chicago crime while living in a city with a higher crime rate. When you do that, he lives outside the city.
Other times, he lives inside and is well versed with what he loves to call "inner-city Peoria".
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I am very familiar with inner city Peoria.
Can be rough.
As far as people taking what any fanboard says as gospel, I think it is all a weird enmeshed Internet and social media driven process of fan gossip and semi legit sports media guys.
Never know until something is final and it is silly to be angry about it, or believe everything.
But it is entertaining.
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Are we sure he has not moved into suburban Peoria, like Washington?
No one here knows that.
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According to this analyst who broke the Utah in the lead story, Illinois has bought some time.
Who the fuck knows.
https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1661812263131512846?s=20 (https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1661812263131512846?s=20)
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Are we sure he has not moved into suburban Peoria, like Washington?
Lol.
Anything across the river might as well be southern Indiana.
Peoria has no actual suburbs.
Just white flight out of Peoria to the hillbilly towns around it.
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https://twitter.com/matthewcstevens/status/1661735431871037442?s=20 (https://twitter.com/matthewcstevens/status/1661735431871037442?s=20)
TSJ info FWIW.
That’s not info.
That’s a dumbass from “IlliniGuys” who are made up of of the 2 biggest homer dumbasses on the internet (Sturdy and Kedric Prince).
Sparky has 5 days left.
Then you’re next. I’m taking out the trash one bet at a time
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No one here knows that.
Ok. I laughed.
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That’s not info.
That’s a dumbass from “IlliniGuys” who are made up of of the 2 biggest homer dumbasses on the internet (Sturdy and Kedric Prince).
Sparky has 5 days left.
Then you’re next. I’m taking out the trash one bet at a time
I laughed at this too.
Anyone who bets this sweaty, bugged eyed, squeaky voiced, bet welching motherfucker deserves whatever they get. Because if you win...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO8zb5DG_gM
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Hopefully Custard is amenable to banning him if he won't be a man and pay up, which we all know he won't because he is a beta pussy.
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That’s not info.
That’s a dumbass from “IlliniGuys” who are made up of of the 2 biggest homer dumbasses on the internet (Sturdy and Kedric Prince).
Sparky has 5 days left.
Then you’re next. I’m taking out the trash one bet at a time
Next for what? Nobody actually gives a fuck what you think.
You are just a sad little infantile troll begging for attention.
But.....
Let's make a bet NIT Fcktard Pedophile.
You claim Illinois will have record low attendance. We have it in writing.
If that happens you win and you get to suck Indy Illini's and LvilleILL's dick.
We know you have been desperately obsessed with them paying attention to you for years. Your life will be complete.
Well, you are obsessed with them and Kofi of course.
You are openly Kofisexual.
It's ok. God made you that way for a reason. He is in China so not available right now though.
But....
If you lose you get buttfucked by Indy Illini and LvilleILL, and Illini0440.
Scoreboard.
We will be keeping close track of that record low attendance you fucking idiot.
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Seems to be a win-win bet for Squeaky.
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Next for what? Nobody actually gives a fuck what you think.
You are just a sad little infantile troll begging for attention.
But.....
Let's make a bet NIT Fcktard Pedophile.
You claim Illinois will have record low attendance. We have it in writing.
If that happens you win and you get to suck Indy Illini's and LvilleILL's dick.
We know you have been desperately obsessed with them paying attention to you for years. Your life will be complete.
Well, you are obsessed with them and Kofi of course.
You are openly Kofisexual.
It's ok. God made you that way for a reason. He is in China so not available right now though.
But....
If you lose you get buttfucked by Indy Illini and LvilleILL, and Illini0440.
Scoreboard.
We will be keeping close track of that record low attendance you fucking idiot.
He got really into Kofi as soon as he left and he could do the "never been good without Kofi" thing.
When Kofi committed here he said the same shit he does about any other kid that commits to Illinois. He sucks, totally out of shape, can't get up and down the court, anybody who thinks he might be good is an idiot homer.
It's why I laugh when people come here and agree with him about Illinois basketball. This guy has dedicated 20 years of his life to going online and praying Illinois basketball sucks ass. He wants us to be bad, every post he makes is aimed at that.
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I laughed at this too.
Anyone who bets this sweaty, bugged eyed, squeaky voiced, bet welching motherfucker deserves whatever they get. Because if you win...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO8zb5DG_gM
The only bet Welcher is you.
42-0.
Doesn’t get as clear as that.
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Hopefully Custard is amenable to banning him if he won't be a man and pay up, which we all know he won't because he is a beta pussy.
You got 5 days left.
You’ve killed the scout board to where there’s nobody on it anymore.
I won’t let you kill this place.
You are a cancer. And I’m getting rid of the cancers here so this place can flourish.
PAMan is pancreatic cancer.
Sparky is lung cancer
LK Dog is brain cancer
Nichi is breast cancer.
Once the cancers are removed from here, this place will be what it should be all along. A place for Illini fans that can say anything they want and hold the team accountable.
You have tried to redefine what is acceptable performance. You have lowered the bar for that. Well you can be happy with the rest of the low bar people on another board.
Not here. Not on my watch.
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You got 5 days left.
You’ve killed the scout board to where there’s nobody on it anymore.
I won’t let you kill this place.
You are a cancer. And I’m getting rid of the cancers here so this place can flourish.
PAMan is pancreatic cancer.
Sparky is lung cancer
LK Dog is brain cancer
Nichi is breast cancer.
Once the cancers are removed from here, this place will be what it should be all along. A place for Illini fans that can say anything they want and hold the team accountable.
You have tried to redefine what is acceptable performance. You have lowered the bar for that. Well you can be happy with the rest of the low bar people on another board.
Not here. Not on my watch.
Wow. Quite the delusional meltdown.
Congratulations. You are one really sorryass piece of shit.
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And there you have it
(https://i.postimg.cc/8pH6Kh06/IMG-0773.jpg)
Looks like Noah deleted his 'take'.
(https://i.ibb.co/MCr1GS8/Screenshot-20230525-165939-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hmbdZ9X)
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The only bet Welcher is you.
42-0.
Doesn’t get as clear as that.
As was said at the time by many, there was no bet because we all know you are all sweaty, bugged eyed, squeaky voiced, bet welching cuck whose wife left him
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You got 5 days left.
You’ve killed the scout board to where there’s nobody on it anymore.
I won’t let you kill this place.
You are a cancer. And I’m getting rid of the cancers here so this place can flourish.
PAMan is pancreatic cancer.
Sparky is lung cancer
LK Dog is brain cancer
Nichi is breast cancer.
Once the cancers are removed from here, this place will be what it should be all along. A place for Illini fans that can say anything they want and hold the team accountable.
You have tried to redefine what is acceptable performance. You have lowered the bar for that. Well you can be happy with the rest of the low bar people on another board.
Not here. Not on my watch.
Enjoy your last couple days with a board that'll let you post on it.
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You got 5 days left.
You’ve killed the scout board to where there’s nobody on it anymore.
I won’t let you kill this place.
You are a cancer. And I’m getting rid of the cancers here so this place can flourish.
PAMan is pancreatic cancer.
Sparky is lung cancer
LK Dog is brain cancer
Nichi is breast cancer.
Once the cancers are removed from here, this place will be what it should be all along. A place for Illini fans that can say anything they want and hold the team accountable.
You have tried to redefine what is acceptable performance. You have lowered the bar for that. Well you can be happy with the rest of the low bar people on another board.
Not here. Not on my watch.
This is great. What a delusional loser. Post the video again, Squeaky!
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This is great. What a delusional loser. Post the video again, Squeaky!
What's funny is they actually let him post on the Scout board for a while a couple years ago when AerchAngel was still alive, but he - as he always does - melted down like a toddler and got permabanned, again.
Then he started sending hundreds of vulgar DMs to everyone on the board.
He's one of the saddest people I've ever interacted with.
If he had the slightest ounce of self-awareness I would feel bad for him.
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He's one of the saddest people I've ever interacted with.
Does that make him the tallest or the shortest HQ2 midget?
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What's funny is they actually let him post on the Scout board for a while a couple years ago when AerchAngel was still alive, but he - as he always does - melted down like a toddler and got permabanned, again.
Then he started sending hundreds of vulgar DMs to everyone on the board.
He's one of the saddest people I've ever interacted with.
If he had the slightest ounce of self-awareness I would feel bad for him.
I havent posted on the scout board in over 10 years.
There’s lot of people that do try to imitate me. More and more as people realize I’m always right
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Looks like Noah deleted his 'take'.
(https://i.ibb.co/MCr1GS8/Screenshot-20230525-165939-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hmbdZ9X)
😂 every idiot Illini fan tries to make excuses for failures
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Damn, AerchAngel died? What happened?
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He got really into Kofi as soon as he left and he could do the "never been good without Kofi" thing.
When Kofi committed here he said the same shit he does about any other kid that commits to Illinois. He sucks, totally out of shape, can't get up and down the court, anybody who thinks he might be good is an idiot homer.
It's why I laugh when people come here and agree with him about Illinois basketball. This guy has dedicated 20 years of his life to going online and praying Illinois basketball sucks ass. He wants us to be bad, every post he makes is aimed at that.
Yep, he bashed Kofi during his freshman year and was the last person to jump on the Kofi bandwagon.
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As was said at the time by many, there was no bet because we all know you are all sweaty, bugged eyed, squeaky voiced, bet welching cuck whose wife left him
Doubtful he ever had sex with his green card seeking wife, but likely watched other men fuck her.
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I havent posted on the scout board in over 10 years.
There’s lot of people that do try to imitate me. More and more as people realize I’m always right
You're a really, really poor and transparent liar.
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Damn, AerchAngel died? What happened?
He had been in pretty poor health for a while I think.
I remember somebody over there dug up a very nice obituary, but don't remember anything about it to find it for you. I remember it mentioned his time playing pro basketball overseas and his time in the military.
Aerch was a really good hearted dude most of the time. Especially before they for some insane reason made him a moderator of the boards over there, he was a disaster in that role.
He was also literally the only reason Truth was allowed back there.
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You're a really, really poor and transparent liar.
Nope, I tell the truth. It’s just that idiots like you ascribe every conservative who holds Illinois accountable as being me, when in fact I represent the majority. There’s a ton of alums just like me with my exact same opinions.
The majority doesn’t support the U of I anymore due to woke politics and piss poor results. But most of us have better things to do with our time than trying to shout down the myopic mediocrity lovers such as yourself on messageboards.
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But most of us have better things to do with our time than trying to shout down the myopic mediocrity lovers such as yourself on messageboards.
Apparently.
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Nope, I tell the truth. It’s just that idiots like you ascribe every conservative who holds Illinois accountable as being me, when in fact I represent the majority. There’s a ton of alums just like me with my exact same opinions.
The majority doesn’t support the U of I anymore due to woke politics and piss poor results. But most of us have better things to do with our time than trying to shout down the myopic mediocrity lovers such as yourself on messageboards.
Hahaha, you're really stickin' with that huh?
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Hahaha, you're really stickin' with that huh?
I mean the stats bear it out.
No Chief No Check was real. Those people left and never came back. Look how much football season tix dropped.
Compare the amount of IFUND donations where Robert has bitched forever about people not donating.
It takes a #1 seed level team just to sell out an SFC that has reduced seats.
Yes, the enthusiasm for Illini athletics is at all time lows. Better be thanking God that Josh Whitman took my recommendation to hire Bielema. It’s his only good decision in 7 years
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Apparently.
I’m retired so I do have the time. And 20 minutes a day of posting really isn’t a big commitment
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I’m retired so I do have the time. And 20 minutes a day of posting really isn’t a big commitment
Calling yourself "retired" when you can't find a job is a good one. Pay off that $500,000 judgment yet?
Talk about a cancer on a society. What a loser.
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Calling yourself "retired" when you can't find a job is a good one. Pay off that $500,000 judgment yet?
Talk about a cancer on a society. What a loser.
His life is completely fucked forever.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving asshole.
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Yeah fundraising’s been in the absolute tank since the Chief was retired, hard to argue with that foolproof logic.
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Yeah fundraising’s been in the absolute tank since the Chief was retired, hard to argue with that foolproof logic.
Wonder where all that NIL money is coming from?
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Anyone got the numbers?
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From 2020 during COVID:
https://fightingillini.com/news/2020/7/15/general-illinois-athletics-records-second-largest-fundraising-year-in-school-history.aspx
"In the fiscal year ended June 30, the University of Illinois Division of Intercollegiate Athletics raised more than $45 million, good for the second-highest fundraising total in school history, the athletic program announced today. The total was the third consecutive year that the DIA has surpassed $40 million in annual fundraising, a first for Fighting Illini Athletics, and the fourth consecutive year of year-over-year fundraising growth."
From 2022:
https://fightingillini.com/news/2022/7/19/general-dia-surpasses-with-illinois-campaign-fundraising-goal.aspx
"The University of Illinois Division of Intercollegiate Athletics surpassed its campus-wide With Illinois fundraising campaign goal set more than eight years ago, finishing with a final total of more than $321 million raised.
"Our success during the With Illinois campaign is a testament to the thousands of people who stand behind our program, providing the resources to our coaches, student-athletes, and staff to strive for excellence each and every day," said UI Director of Athletics Josh Whitman. "We have been fortunate during the campaign to receive some of the most meaningful gifts in the history of Illinois Athletics; the largest donations have received the most public attention, but every gift, no matter the amount, has been appreciated and made a difference in our ability to strive for championships while fulfilling our educational mission."
AD fundraising is about the best it's ever been right now under Whitman.
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Spark just destroying Dom. Dom will need lessons from Tempo on how to twist Spark's words and then argue against his version of Spark's argument.
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Dom will need lessons from Tempo on how to twist Spark's words and then argue against his version of Spark's argument.
Well they are buddies, so…
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Well they are buddies, so…
We are? Hmmm, who knew?
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We are? Hmmm, who knew?
You are on Dom's List of those who are not board cancers.
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You are on Dom's List of those who are not board cancers.
So that makes us buddies? He’s blasted me and my liberalism multiple times. I can never win.
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(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fa0%2Fbb%2Fc3%2Fa0bbc3d14e48520c7eb6ef38d81187be--charlie-hebdo-charlie-brown.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=da7a851ff90689d783d0ea26351480e3aaf959f8ac4f5bc0096f5593c9090d3e&ipo=images)
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So that makes us buddies? He’s blasted me and my liberalism multiple times. I can never win.
Apparently he likes you. Maybe he is a Justin Fields fan?
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(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fa0%2Fbb%2Fc3%2Fa0bbc3d14e48520c7eb6ef38d81187be--charlie-hebdo-charlie-brown.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=da7a851ff90689d783d0ea26351480e3aaf959f8ac4f5bc0096f5593c9090d3e&ipo=images)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGZHkZC9Jo0
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So that makes us buddies? He’s blasted me and my liberalism multiple times. I can never win.
https://media.makeameme.org/created/what-makes-real.jpg
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Apparently he likes you. Maybe he is a Justin Fields fan?
If you removed the names above the posts, your/his football posts would be almost identical.
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If you removed the names above the posts, your/his football posts would be almost identical.
You are right that he's not a Justin Fields fan
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You are right that he's not a Justin Fields fan
Somehow though, his takes are even funnier than yours. It’s a monumental achievement.
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Somehow though, his takes are even funnier than yours. It’s a monumental achievement.
My JFC takes were not meant to be funny. Even that article you posted today discussed his futility as a pocket passer.
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My JFC takes were not meant to be funny. Even that article you posted today discussed his futility as a pocket passer.
But a lot of them are funny. Just not as funny as Dom’s.
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Good stuff
https://twitter.com/morezjohnsonJr/status/1664052643512086529?t=OuuqNAA7QLqGAsXv--QuoQ&s=19
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Why would Morez Johnson transfer from St. Rita to Thornton?
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Why would Morez Johnson transfer from St. Rita to Thornton?
Everyone left St. Rita, including the coach.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/3/24/23655357/james-brown-st-rita-basketball-link-academy-north-carolina
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/3/24/23655357/james-brown-st-rita-basketball-link-academy-north-carolina
There is an article out there about how the coach left to go be an assistant at another Catholic League (I believe) school and wondering why the program has fallen apart so quickly.
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It's good that our recruit is playing at Thornton instead of some basketball academy.
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ZZ Clark decommits
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1582133108496683008
Lemme see. Power 5. National tv.
Nah.
How's Tennessee State sound ?
https://twitter.com/ClarkZachiah/status/1664335879215652867/photo/1
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Lemme see. Power 5. National tv.
Nah.
How's Tennessee State sound ?
https://twitter.com/ClarkZachiah/status/1664335879215652867/photo/1
Hopefully no fights during practice there.
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Hopefully no fights during practice there.
Couple of really complicated kids in that family.
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Williams was just on a podcast and asked about his health.
Says he can't jump or explode off injured leg but thinks he will be ready.
Not good news IMO.
Sounds like PG by committee.
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Williams was just on a podcast and asked about his health.
Says he can't jump or explode off injured leg but thinks he will be ready.
Not good news IMO.
Sounds like PG by committee.
Did ThePAMan call in to ask about his free shot shooting ?
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Did ThePAMan call in to ask about his free shot shooting ?
LOL. Hopefully he can practice his form while sitting down on his couch.
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Williams was just on a podcast and asked about his health.
Says he can't jump or explode off injured leg but thinks he will be ready.
Not good news IMO.
Sounds like PG by committee.
After further review, I now expect the NCAA to deny his waiver. The reasoning will be that even though he did not play a single minute, he was eligible to compete. Instead, he took a medical redshirt. Note that taking a medical redshirt is not listed as an exception.
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LOL. Hopefully he can practice his form while sitting down on his couch.
Not such a good FT shooter.
Lol
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After further review, I now expect the NCAA to deny his waiver. The reasoning will be that even though he did not play a single minute, he was eligible to compete. Instead, he took a medical redshirt. Note that taking a medical redshirt is not listed as an exception.
Apparently Kedric Prince agrees.
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After further review, I now expect the NCAA to deny his waiver. The reasoning will be that even though he did not play a single minute, he was eligible to compete. Instead, he took a medical redshirt. Note that taking a medical redshirt is not listed as an exception.
The job is wide open and we get a commit from a damaged goods 2 transfer waiver required guy.
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We are now on Chris Johnson.
Combo guard who left Kansas.
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The job is wide open and we get a commit from a damaged goods 2 transfer waiver required guy.
Yeah, we are not that good at this portal thing yet. Lol.
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Yeah, we are not that good at this portal thing yet. Lol.
No. We bring in 2 experienced front line guys for last year who put us #2 in the portal and have 3 freshmen guards, with the 1st guy to get the job coming off a bad knee, to run the offense.
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The job is wide open and we get a commit from a damaged goods 2 transfer waiver required guy.
Who wasn't even good before the injury.
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Who wasn't even good before the injury.
He looks like he might be a good player but he says he can't jump or explode yet.
Also needs a waiver to even play.
Right now our PG is Harmon unless they bring in someone else.
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He looks like he might be a good player but he says he can't jump or explode yet.
Also needs a waiver to even play.
Right now our PG is Harmon unless they bring in someone else.
don't forget the freshman gibbs-lawhorn
don't expect much but who knows he could be a baller
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He's supposed to be good but I'll be shocked if he sticks around.
Would love to be wrong, but ... I don't see it. He's not likely to play a ton this year. He's on his third high school and his second college commitment. Supposedly his mother is a handful too.
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We are now on Chris Johnson.
Combo guard who left Kansas.
Did you see this on somewhere besides Loyalty?
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Did you see this on somewhere besides Loyalty?
If it didn’t come from Dom, it’s useless info.
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Did you see this on somewhere besides Loyalty?
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1665117875697336323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1665117875697336323%7Ctwgr%5E9f91273e768ffbb97155a198f2913d34f60a6f36%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.illinoisloyalty.com%2Fpost%2Fillinois-hoops-recruiting-thread.31509%2Fpage-3 (https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1665117875697336323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1665117875697336323%7Ctwgr%5E9f91273e768ffbb97155a198f2913d34f60a6f36%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.illinoisloyalty.com%2Fpost%2Fillinois-hoops-recruiting-thread.31509%2Fpage-3)
Loyalty guys claiming we are in top 3.
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If it didn’t come from Dom, it’s useless info.
We don’t know if it did anymore…
You should petition to have him come back!
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1665117875697336323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1665117875697336323%7Ctwgr%5E9f91273e768ffbb97155a198f2913d34f60a6f36%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.illinoisloyalty.com%2Fpost%2Fillinois-hoops-recruiting-thread.31509%2Fpage-3 (https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1665117875697336323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1665117875697336323%7Ctwgr%5E9f91273e768ffbb97155a198f2913d34f60a6f36%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.illinoisloyalty.com%2Fpost%2Fillinois-hoops-recruiting-thread.31509%2Fpage-3)
Loyalty guys claiming we are in top 3.
The same loyalty guys who said RayJ was a LOCK and to not worry why it was taking so long?
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If it didn’t come from Dom, it’s useless info.
Dom predicts this guy will be garbage, if he goes to Illinois and an All Anerican, if he goes anywhere else
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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1665117875697336323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1665117875697336323%7Ctwgr%5E9f91273e768ffbb97155a198f2913d34f60a6f36%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.illinoisloyalty.com%2Fpost%2Fillinois-hoops-recruiting-thread.31509%2Fpage-3 (https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1665117875697336323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1665117875697336323%7Ctwgr%5E9f91273e768ffbb97155a198f2913d34f60a6f36%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.illinoisloyalty.com%2Fpost%2Fillinois-hoops-recruiting-thread.31509%2Fpage-3)
Loyalty guys claiming we are in top 3.
Thanks.
Loyalty guys have claimed illinois was top 3 for at least 50 transfers.
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Thanks.
Loyalty guys have claimed illinois was top 3 for at least 50 transfers.
My hunch is longshot on Johnson.
If Reeves leaves KY we go all in on him.
Don't need no fucking point guard. We will just score 90 a game. Lol 😂
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Don't need no fucking point guard. We will just score 90 a game. Lol 😂
No problem. 38-39% from 3 should help. 😂
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Reeves for Harmon would be okay with me.
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Larry Johnson offered in 2024...6'4 175...ain't no grammama....
https://www.basketballnetwork.net/off-the-court/when-fans-waited-outside-in-a-snowstorm-for-larry-johnsons-autograph
Maybe the other guy?
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https://fightingillini.com/news/2023/7/18/mens-basketball-jones-joins-illinois-staff-as-director-of-recruiting-and-scouting
Kwa Jones welcome....back....seems like this addition would have been better prior to recruiting for next year. 2024 with Johnson already in the fold will need to be HUGE.
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Three-star Class of 2024 forward Jason Jakstys announced a verbal commitment to Illinois on Sunday. 247Sports ranks the 6-foot-10, 205-pound Yorkville (Ill.) product as the No. 47 power forward in the Class of 2024 and the No. 7 senior in the state of Illinois.
Jakstys also holds scholarship offers from Illinois State, Eastern Illinois, Boston, Valparaiso, Drake, Indiana State, Lehigh, Loyola (Md.), Penn, St. Thomas and Yale.
uhhhhh ok
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https://youtu.be/SrbMzW4wT9k
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Not a single left-handed dribble in those highlights.
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Not a single left-handed dribble in those highlights.
Have seen a lot of his highlights. Kid has ball skills. Nice change from the athletic guys who can't play basketball very well yet we have been bringing in. Could be a nice rotation guy down the road.
He actually hit a three off of a left handed dribble in the first 30 seconds.
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He actually hit a three.
That's a good start. 👍
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That's a good start. 👍
Any video of his free shot shooting?
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Any video of his free shot shooting?
I heard he’s good in Nov/Dec. Sucks in Feb/March.
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I'm more wondering of we are suppose to be excited about a 3 star recruit who really had no major offers
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I'm more wondering of we are suppose to be excited about a 3 star recruit who really had no major offers
As long as the floor is making the tournament, I tend to trust the staff on these types of players.
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As long as the floor is making the tournament, I tend to trust the staff on these types of players.
Agreed. Would hate to see him turn out like a few other under the radar bigs from in state that we let go to other places, specifically Wisconsin.
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I really do not trust this staff's ability to assess players, but actually like this pickup.
Need guys with some fundamentals.
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Good verbal for another role player in the class....will be B1G ready by year 3 maybe. Seems to have talent, also seems to play below the rim ALOT for his size. Does not have the body for the B1G and will need to add alot....
Potential is there, it's just not THERE yet...Really solid bench/role player for class and future.
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Wonder what level of interest ILLINOIS has in Ben Winker 6'10 prospect from St Louis?
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Jace Butler 2024 Cg/PG scheduled visit Sept 22nd, announcing on his birthday Oct 4th? Last visit from final 6 schools?
https://247sports.com/Player/Jase-Butler-46141094/
Florida Atlantic on the 23rd football.
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Ques Glover reportedly interested in K-State/Indy and possibly us as a transfer?
https://247sports.com/Season/2023-basketball/TransferPortal/ NIL didn't come through?
2000 pt scorer in high school, committed to Florida/Samford/BYU/ ??? in the portal as of now.
Got some Kiwane Garris game at 6'0 and he loves contact and getting into the lane?
Minutes available?
Ty Rodgers-DLG- PG minutes?
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What’s the story on Jeremiah Fears?
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What’s the story on Jeremiah Fears?
Announced recently that he will be announcing in January 🙄
Damn good player, better than his brother. But man, some prima donnas! Who the fuck announces they’re gonna be announcing in 5-6 months from now?!
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Announced recently that he will be announcing in January 🙄
Damn good player, better than his brother. But man, some prima donnas! Who the fuck announces they’re gonna be announcing in 5-6 months from now?!
Jasn announces there is a new corporate program and you are all over his ass too. At least you are consistent.
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Jasn announces there is a new corporate program and you are all over his ass too. At least you are consistent.
You don’t find it dumb??
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You don’t find it dumb??
No. But I'm a changed man since Spark called me a real life villain.
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No. But I'm a changed man since Spark called me a real life villain.
He really said that? lol, wow.
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Announced recently that he will be announcing in January 🙄
Damn good player, better than his brother. But man, some prima donnas! Who the fuck announces they’re gonna be announcing in 5-6 months from now?!
I've seen players do top 16, to 12, to 8, to 4
Like come on
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He really said that? lol, wow.
Context matters. It’s no worse than many things uttered by PAMan and others.
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I think it would sound less absurd if you read the entire quote.
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I think it would sound less absurd if you read the entire quote.
The gist of it is in my sig.
It was over the top but that is par for the course around here. Though, I am sure he was serious about it. I thought it was funny, at least.
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Just saw something that says we’ve only landed one commitment since Nov 21. Is that true?
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Just saw something that says we’ve only landed one commitment since Nov 21. Is that true?
Must be waiting for the old guy who can shoot Free Shots to sign.
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Must be waiting for the old guy who can shoot Free Shots to sign.
Better sign him quick. I’m sure he’s at greater risk of heart attack/Covid death.
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I think Chester see's alot of himself in this kid.....Hope we can land him. Lewis and Johnson expedition about to begin?
https://twitter.com/takhtehchianmd/status/1702784638345687262/photo/1
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I think Chester see's alot of himself in this kid.....Hope we can land him. Lewis and Johnson expedition about to begin?
https://twitter.com/takhtehchianmd/status/1702784638345687262/photo/1
Can’t see the tweet because that fucker is 🗑️
He’s a shill for that child abuser Ryan “Evans” Shroat.
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Can’t see the tweet because that fucker is 🗑️
He’s a shill for that child abuser Ryan “Evans” Shroat.
247 has him as a 6'3" 170 lb four star, but his offer sheet could use some work.
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I think Chester see's alot of himself in this kid.....Hope we can land him. Lewis and Johnson expedition about to begin?
https://twitter.com/takhtehchianmd/status/1702784638345687262/photo/1
Chester with a lot more talent, hopefully?
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Nice throw, catch, and 1st down to Claypool.
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There we go. Some smash mouth.
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Great throw, great play. Kmet just got lit up.
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Held it a bit long but found Kmet on 3rd. Big 1st down.
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Damn it. Justin.
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Jesus.
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Tempo making every thread about Justin Fields again
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Shake my head
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That was Fields’ fault? Amirite?
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The coaches can make him throw the ball. They are just pussies. He threw the ball downfield big time in college. It’s being coached out of him.
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That was Fields’ fault? Amirite?
The pick 6 or the INT he threw in a crowd?
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That was Fields’ fault? Amirite?
You Fieldsjacked the thread, not Fields.
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And I’m not saying Fields couldn’t have been better. But again, there’s just too much to overcome here. Bad blocking. Dumb penalties. Uninspired play calling. It’s just a bad recipe.
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The coaches can make him throw the ball. They are just pussies. He threw the ball downfield big time in college. It’s being coached out of him.
He's not a pocket passer. The Bears should RECRUIT one.
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The pick 6 or the INT he threw in a crowd?
It was a great play by Barrett. You show that enough they’re gonna sniff it out. Fields wasn’t the primary reason we lost.
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It was a great play by Barrett. You show that enough they’re gonna sniff it out. Fields wasn’t the primary reason we lost.
Can he hit his Free Shots?
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It was a great play by Barrett. You show that enough they’re gonna sniff it out. Fields wasn’t the primary reason we lost.
The right censors what we can see. The left censors what we can say.
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I have been watching the American version of Shameless. Vastly superior to the original British version.
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I have been watching the American version of Shameless. Vastly superior to the original British version.
What network is that on?
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What network is that on?
Paramount+ with SHOWTIME $11.99 month.
FreeVee has the British version
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Paramount+ with SHOWTIME $11.99 month.
FreeVee has the British version
Thanks. I do not need another subscription service...
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Not sure if trolling or Asperger’s
You Fieldsjacked the thread, not Fields.
Not sure if Tempo making every thread about Justin Fields again
Not sure if he’s trolling or has Asperger’s
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Haha this is hilarious. See PAMan, told you I was bit under the weather and my head was in the clouds.
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I’m legit LOLing here. Now THIS is something I should be remembered for.
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Three star combo guard
Justin Jace Fields Butler has committed.
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Butler chose the Illini over a trio of in-state schools: Stanford, San Francisco, and UC Santa Barbara, among many other low and mid major offers. Butler has not been highly recruited, but the Illini staff is extremely high on his potential and sees him as part of their future backcourt.
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Hopefully one of those overlooked guys that balls out that we always seem to miss on.... yeah
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😕
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A less than inspiring offer list on 247, and some thoughts from Jase from 247's Dushawn London ....
On UC Santa Barbara: "They do a great job with their guards and let them run free.”
On San Francisco: "They also give their guards a lot of freedom to showcase their skills.”
On Illinois: “It was a great visit and coach Underwood is a great coach who wins a lot in the Big-10. They have room for a point guard and I can see myself making an impact in that big time conference.”
From London: “They’re getting a high IQ point guard with great feel positional size, likes to make other people better and win.”
"They have room for a point guard." Lol
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Kid might be a true diamond in the rough but this feels a little like 2006-07 Weber recruiting
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Kid might be a true diamond in the rough but this feels a little like 2006-07 Weber recruiting
(https://i.ibb.co/VmZbzd2/Screenshot-20231005-101716-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/py8NMgJ)
:D
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🥹
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Kid might be a true diamond in the rough but this feels a little like 2006-07 Weber recruiting
The type of prospect Groce slow played and lost while waiting to finish second for a Mikey Lewis.
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The type of prospect Groce slow played and lost while waiting to finish second for a Mikey Lewis.
Probably true
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Paramount+ with SHOWTIME $11.99 month.
FreeVee has the British version
Check out FOS, Future of Streaming, you will all thank me later...I get all that S*it and them some for $45.00 a month, nothing more.
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Got a link?
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Got a link?
I do not sell this, I do not make anything off of this....just a public service to all TV lovers.
HDR Presents Future Of Streaming
September 5, 2019 ·
Order FOS TV online at fostv.live and use code D663 to unlock exclusive discounts. First month of FOS TV service and FOS TV MAX PRO $99.99 one time fee. Stream TV the way you want and enjoy your favorite movies, shows, and sports only on FOS TV for $39.99 a month. #NOCREDITCHECK #HDRPRESENTSFUTUREOFSTREAMING #NOAREARESTRICTIONS #FREEHBO #FREESTARZ #FREECINEMAX #FREESHOWTIME #WATCHFAVORITENFLTEAM #WATCHFAVORITENBATEAM #FREEPPV #FREEINSTALL
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The link is dead bruh
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I do not sell this, I do not make anything off of this....just a public service to all TV lovers.
HDR Presents Future Of Streaming
September 5, 2019 ·
Order FOS TV online at fostv.live and use code D663 to unlock exclusive discounts. First month of FOS TV service and FOS TV MAX PRO $99.99 one time fee. Stream TV the way you want and enjoy your favorite movies, shows, and sports only on FOS TV for $39.99 a month. #NOCREDITCHECK #HDRPRESENTSFUTUREOFSTREAMING #NOAREARESTRICTIONS #FREEHBO #FREESTARZ #FREECINEMAX #FREESHOWTIME #WATCHFAVORITENFLTEAM #WATCHFAVORITENBATEAM #FREEPPV #FREEINSTALL
Sounds like that thing that fat fuck youtuber just got arrested for selling
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Sounds like that thing that fat fuck youtuber just got arrested for selling
You don't sell it sign up and pay. If you don't like saving $$ oh well.
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The link is dead bruh
Yes it is an old one....fostv.live
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Yes it is an old one....fostv.live
Scared to try it. Doesn’t seem “trustworthy” or on the uppity up, ya know?!
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Scared to try it. Doesn’t seem “trustworthy” or on the uppity up, ya know?!
I know I have had it for 2 years and it cost me $45.00 per month, I get all premiums, BTN, any flipping sports/news channel and everything in between at no extra to include some movies not even out of the theatre's at times....ya know? LOL, either way, not everyone likes change I get it, your $$ spend it.
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Link still doesn’t work for we peasants
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Re yesterday's signing day ..
https://fightingillini.com/news/2023/11/8/mens-basketball-illinois-mens-basketball-signs-top-20-class-for-2024.aspx
And there's a good story about Morez Johnson in today's Sun Times. This is the best that I can do.
(https://i.ibb.co/5cKNCqR/imagejpeg-0-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SvfhHq3)
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Re yesterday's signing day ..
https://fightingillini.com/news/2023/11/8/mens-basketball-illinois-mens-basketball-signs-top-20-class-for-2024.aspx
And there's a good story about Morez Johnson in today's Sun Times. This is the best that I can do.
(https://i.ibb.co/5cKNCqR/imagejpeg-0-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SvfhHq3)
Nice class for sure, adding size and length is always good. Hopefully they can shoot free-throws too.
Is Morez going to be a burger boy?
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Nice class for sure, adding size and length is always good. Hopefully they can shoot free-throws too.
Is Morez going to be a burger boy?
He might be. I like the class. Underwood stated he’ll look the transfer portal for wings to fill in the gaps. I like his approach.
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adding size and length is always good.
You're damn right it is
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(https://media2.giphy.com/media/IjJ8FVe4HVk66yvlV2/giphy.gif)
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https://www.theintelligencer.com/sports/article/illini-basketball-announces-three-signings-18480352.php
Nice in depth article about each signee, welcome players.
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DJ Richardson's nephew gets an offer
https://twitter.com/djrich32/status/1723380345351913570
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DJ Richardson's nephew gets an offer
https://twitter.com/djrich32/status/1723380345351913570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg5hX3CiviQ
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Based on our success this year with transfers, the known next year is Johnson starts, it will be a very interesting off season, filling the other spots with experienced "get old" guys to replace the studs we got this year.
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Illinois signee Morez Johnson playing on ESPN2 for Thornton HS. Dude is beast and so good. Getting tons of praise on national TV.
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I just sat down. 17 pts 8 rebounds with 7 min to go. Made his last 2 free shots.
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Coleman Cloer
https://twitter.com/colecloerr?lang=en
Casey Jacobson type of player, very smooth shot. Will be hard to get away from UNC though, lives only 15 minutes away.
Love the fact that we have offered a high end young player with guard size at 6'6....keep the flyin ILLINI size going BU!
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Big decision soon. We’re in great shape and I think he’ll be an Illini…
https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1747763905793818718?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Fears would be an outstanding get for us
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It has always been tricky to follow this family. His dad is Jeremy the former player? His brother is Jeremy at MSU. He is Jeremiah.
LOL.
We certainly need to start getting lead guards who have ability to score.
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Out of his group, ILLINI, Providence, Ole Miss would seem the most likely.
Lets hope he picks us and we can no longer have to try and figure out if we have a good enough point guard.
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He cancelled his Michigan visit. I think this one is in the bag for us.
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He cancelled his Michigan visit. I think this one is in the bag for us.
You new here ?
Lol
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You new here ?
Lol
Judge Judy needs no cup apparently!
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I’m pretty confident in my assumption, but yes, I do have my cup on…
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I get the feeling that JJ and illiniray follow Loyalty as closely as anyone here. ML does too, but doesn’t really relay what he seeing there. I think I also freaked him out a little when I DM’d him there a while ago.
So when those guys relay it here, it’s pretty legit. It’s a big upside of following it here and not having to sift through the pages of grandstanding bullshit it takes to get a kernel of info.
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Judge Judy reads Loyalty and watches MSNBC so we don't have to. Thank you, Judge Judy!
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Amen, brother!
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I get the feeling that JJ and illiniray follow Loyalty as closely as anyone here. ML does too, but doesn’t really relay what he seeing there. I think I also freaked him out a little when I DM’d him there a while ago.
So when those guys relay it here, it’s pretty legit. It’s a big upside of following it here and not having to sift through the pages of grandstanding bullshit it takes to get a kernel of info.
Custard, or should I say FromUndawood, is correct. Except for the freaking me out part.
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Fears is an Illini
nice
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Huge get for Underwood!!
https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1749522572742361252?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39364266/five-star-junior-jeremiah-fears-commits-play-illinois
*Oh and ALWAYS trust content from the Judge! 😎 😂 suck it PMan hehe
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Welcome J Fears....Busting Brackets is reporting a possible reclass???
Wouldn't mind Aleks Alston to come aboard either, very smooth game
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Fears is an Illini
nice
Huge get for Underwood!!
https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1749522572742361252?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39364266/five-star-junior-jeremiah-fears-commits-play-illinois
*Oh and ALWAYS trust content from the Judge! 😎 😂 suck it PMan hehe
Noice !!!
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Huge get for Underwood!!
https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1749522572742361252?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39364266/five-star-junior-jeremiah-fears-commits-play-illinois
*Oh and ALWAYS trust content from the Judge! 😎 😂 suck it PMan hehe
Hopefully he does not get shot in the leg like his bro.
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Hopefully he does not get shot in the leg like his bro.
😂 true. I literally am laughing out loud right now. Found that way funnier than it probably should have been!
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I was thinking hopefully he doesn't go out of state and finger blast some chick in a club.
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I was thinking
No you weren't.
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Fears is an Illini
nice
Oh shit I forgot today was decision day.
Awesome get by the staff!
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No you weren't.
LOL
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vote early, vote often
https://prephoops.com/2024/01/mid-season-fan-poll/
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😂 true. I literally am laughing out loud right now. Found that way funnier than it probably should have been!
Definitely NOT Spark approved commentary
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No you weren't.
That was a good one.
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As long as he’s better than Jalen Coleman-Lands I’m good with it.
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No you weren't.
Haha, that was actually pretty good
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As long as he’s better than Jalen Coleman-Lands I’m good with it.
Bizarre comment
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JCL was a rotation guard on a national title team.
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Morez Johnson not on the McD AA roster >:(
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Think it’s weird how often these top Chicago kids get snubbed from the roster of a Chicago based business.
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Morez Johnson not on the McD AA roster >:(
That sucks. Fuck that.
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Illinois always getting fucked with this game. They can make Team USA but not a burger boy game. Complete bias and utter nonsense bullshit motherfucking assholes! 😡 they’ll probably snub Fears next year too.
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Bias looks like more in favor of high school / prep school rather than college choice.
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Bias looks like more in favor of high school / prep school rather than college choice.
Should sue.
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Should sue.
Yep. Omission from this squad could affect his ability to make money in the future. I think the overpriced, shitty fast food chain should have to justify taking others over him.
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Seriously, have you guys been to McDonalds lately? Jesus fucking Christ.
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Seriously, have you guys been to McDonalds lately? Jesus fucking Christ.
I honestly can’t tell you the last time I stepped foot in a McDonalds. Or all the other shitty fast food chains.
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Literally like 13 players on this list (both sides) that one could argue Morez is better or as good as than. Oh well....locker material. Tape that shit up on the wall.
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Oh well....locker material. Tape that shit up on the wall.
This.
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Seriously, have you guys been to McDonalds lately? Jesus fucking Christ.
I have not, what's it like?
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I’m a sucker for McDonald’s every so often and I have young kids and we are always on the go. If you must go there, use the app. Basically half the price if you use the deals menu. Plus you accrue rewards pretty quickly that are used for free food. I’d never go if I had to pay normal price.
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JCL was a rotation guard on a national title team.
As a 7th year Senior. What did he do here? My point is, I hope he lives up to his billing, because outside of Ayo we’ve had very few players do that the last 15 years.
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Seriously, have you guys been to McDonalds lately? Jesus fucking Christ.
The breakfast burritos are 🔥
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Just looked it up, JCL played 8.2 mpg for KU. That’s barely above scrub minutes.
Averaged 3.7 ppg.
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I’m a sucker for McDonald’s every so often and I have young kids and we are always on the go. If you must go there, use the app. Basically half the price if you use the deals menu. Plus you accrue rewards pretty quickly that are used for free food. I’d never go if I had to pay normal price.
I use the app all the time. Save a lot of money. I am addicted to the breakfast burritos with picante sauce (so good if they are fresh). I pay about half price using the app. And my 9 year old’s favorite meal is a chicken nugget happy meal. I get a free one about every third visit. Sometimes if I’m hungry when getting my kid a happy meal I’ll use the double cheeseburger deal (2nd one for like 29 cents). App is easy to use and save lots of money.
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As a 7th year Senior. What did he do here? My point is, I hope he lives up to his billing, because outside of Ayo we’ve had very few players do that the last 15 years.
Kofi???
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FWIW, I think mostly just, how recruiting works in college has totally changed.
The portal is where you recruit now. Obviously we still get HS commitments, but it's silly at this point to expect most of your HS recruits to even be on your team for 3+ years. You can get guys that are more ready to contribute to your team right now in the portal in most cases.
I hope Fears (and Morez Johnson, and Jase Butler, and whoever else) come here and stay 4 years and end up Illini legends, but chances are 50%+ of them transfer and we replace them with guys that are ready to contribute to the team right now, instead of 2 years from now.
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I use the app all the time. Save a lot of money. I am addicted to the breakfast burritos with picante sauce (so good if they are fresh). I pay about half price using the app. And my 9 year old’s favorite meal is a chicken nugget happy meal. I get a free one about every third visit. Sometimes if I’m hungry when getting my kid a happy meal I’ll use the double cheeseburger deal (2nd one for like 29 cents). App is easy to use and save lots of money.
Haha same on the burritos and picante and the bogo or 29 cent DCB or 6 piece deal.
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Kofi???
He didn’t come in with a ton of hype IIRC. He obviously exceeded expectations by a lot. I thought about mentioning him, but I’m referring to top 40 type guard types. We haven’t had a lot of highly thought of guards come in and meet or exceed expectations in a while.
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Haha same on the burritos and picante and the bogo or 29 cent DCB or 6 piece deal.
The breakfast burritos are like crack. Inexpensive crack.
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FWIW, I think mostly just, how recruiting works in college has totally changed.
The portal is where you recruit now. Obviously we still get HS commitments, but it's silly at this point to expect most of your HS recruits to even be on your team for 3+ years. You can get guys that are more ready to contribute to your team right now in the portal in most cases.
I hope Fears (and Morez Johnson, and Jase Butler, and whoever else) come here and stay 4 years and end up Illini legends, but chances are 50%+ of them transfer and we replace them with guys that are ready to contribute to the team right now, instead of 2 years from now.
A lot of truth to that. The portal is just as important if not more important than recruiting anymore.
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Illinois has always had really good guards most of my life. The last 12 years definitely the weakest guard play of my memory.
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The last 5+ have been good. The Groce years were mostly awful.
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The breakfast burritos are like crack. Inexpensive crack.
I don’t understand how they’re so good. There are random mornings I wake up craving them and nothing else will do. Probably have a massive insulin and LDL spike after but hey it’s a treat not a daily thing.
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I don’t understand how they’re so good. There are random mornings I wake up craving them and nothing else will do. Probably have a massive insulin and LDL spike after but hey it’s a treat not a daily thing.
Saw this last night and it made me self-conscious about how much I’ve been having them. Still had two this morning though! I should (and will) cut back, however . I am borderline addicted. It’s like my morning coffee!
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Recent game from Jaks:
https://www.nctv17.org/sports/yorkville-boys-basketball-pulls-away-from-metea-valley-in-the-final-minutes/
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2025 Rolling Meadows Ian Miletic is reportedly visiting this weekend.
https://247sports.com/Player/ian-miletic-46144143/
https://stockrisers.com/s/529/ian-miletic-making-a-name-for-himself-in-the-2025-class-talks-recruitment
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/transfer-portal-watch-standouts-that-could-be-on-the-move-in-the-offseason
Portal business already at hand.
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/transfer-portal-watch-standouts-that-could-be-on-the-move-in-the-offseason
Portal business already at hand.
Sven probably doesn't want to see the list.
But, then again, maybe he does.
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You can bet that 100% Dain Dainja will be transferring. No confirmation except that he doesn’t play and should be.
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You can bet that 100% Dain Dainja will be transferring. No confirmation except that he doesn’t play and should be.
They don't want him clogging up the lanes for TSJ driving to the net. That won't be an issue next year.
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Edey seems to do a decent job of clearing out the lane for drivers.
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Edey seems to do a decent job of clearing out the lane for drivers.
Do they have anyone like our fella driving the lane?
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Do they have anyone like our fella driving the lane?
Nope.
What if Dainja cleared the lane for Domask at NU ?
Or Harmon at PSU ?
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Dainja will get tons of tick next year and he’s no Edey. But kids are kinda dumb and he’ll probably leave anyways.
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Dainja will get tons of tick next year and he’s no Edey. But kids are kinda dumb and he’ll probably leave anyways.
May depend on how much cash is involved.
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Jace Butler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFplUHK9c48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmLBqDw62Ls
Good to see them growing up....
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Got a good feeling about the Butler kid
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Got a good feeling about the Butler kid
He’s built pretty damn solid. Like a brick shithouse. Much like a Houston player…
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He’s built pretty damn solid. Like a brick shithouse. Much like a Houston player…
Little like D-Will maybe build wise?
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Dior Johnson, stud point guard. Hass 3 years of eligibility. Enrolled a Pitt, redshirted, got booted. Played at a JuCo this past season.
'... pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges in December 2022 for simple assault and strangulation, stemming from a September 5th incident in the same year where he struck a woman multiple times, causing bruising, and forcing her head into a bed, making it difficult for her to breathe."
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Glad he learned a marketable skill during his rehabilitation!
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Glad he learned a marketable skill during his rehabilitation!
Underwood must be soft on crime.
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With likely 3-6 spots open yet for 2024-2025 season, who in the portal currently would best or whom you like to be "everyday guys" to add to our mix, if you had a choice?
I like so far Cade Tyson (Belmont 6-7") Amari Williams (Drexel-6"10) Kaleb Glenn (Louisville 6'-6") Vasean Allette (ODU 6'-3"), Justin Taylor (Syracuse 6'-6")
2024-2025
Dain Dainja
Luke Goode
Ty Rodgers
Sencire Harris
Niccolò Moretti
Luke Goode
Dra Gibs-Lawhorn
Morez Johnson
Jase Butler
Jason Jakstys
OPEN
OPEN
OPEN
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With likely 3-6 spots open yet for 2024-2025 season, who in the portal currently would best or whom you like to be "everyday guys" to add to our mix, if you had a choice?
I like so far Cade Tyson (Belmont 6-7") Amari Williams (Drexel-6"10) Kaleb Glenn (Louisville 6'-6") Vasean Allette (ODU 6'-3"), Justin Taylor (Syracuse 6'-6")
2024-2025
Dain Dainja
Luke Goode
Ty Rodgers
Sencire Harris
Niccolò Moretti
Luke Goode
Morez Johnson
Jase Butler
Jason Jakstys
OPEN
OPEN
OPEN
You’re missing DGL on that list. He’ll be back next year…
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And Goode Goode gets two spots.
I'm ok with winning 4 more games before replacing this year's team.
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You’re missing DGL on that list. He’ll be back next year…
Thank you and yes I did. I'm okay with winning 4 more games as well. Still looking towards next year as the staff is also.
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It is fun to speculate but way too many unknowns right now for me to engage
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Saint Thomas (not the island) is going to get a strong look from the staff imo.
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https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jake-davis-2.html
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Right now:
Shannon gone
Harmon gone
Guerrier gone
Domask likely gone
Hawkins likely gone
Moretti ?
Goode ?
Rodgers likely back
Dainja likely back
Gibbs-Lawhorn likely back
Harris likely back
Hansberry likely back
Johnson added
Butler added
Jakstys added
Davis likely
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247 leads me to believe that Jake not at State Farm Davis is staying at Mercer.
🤷
(https://i.ibb.co/smKpxwq/Screenshot-20240327-080615-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xC1K9j6)
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Zeke Mayo sounds a lot like a player Underwood would love.
Applying for NBA, but maintaining status.
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247 leads me to believe that Jake not at State Farm Davis is staying at Mercer.
🤷
(https://i.ibb.co/smKpxwq/Screenshot-20240327-080615-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xC1K9j6)
That appears to be a mistake. Or somebody forgot to tell him.
https://www.on3.com/db/jake-davis-241294/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://twitter.com/jake_6davis%3Flang%3Dar&ved=2ahUKEwjNxfzQ3pSFAxVWlokEHRA9B4IQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1dVBlx45Zc0wNC08j8Ibct
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That appears to be a mistake. Or somebody forgot to tell him.
https://www.on3.com/db/jake-davis-241294/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://twitter.com/jake_6davis%3Flang%3Dar&ved=2ahUKEwjNxfzQ3pSFAxVWlokEHRA9B4IQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1dVBlx45Zc0wNC08j8Ibct
Both of those links are from before the March 25 info on 247.
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Both of those links are from before the March 25 info on 247.
I would think he would have updated his personal Twitter page and told someone besides 24/7. He would also just withdraw from the portal, not sign a letter of intent.
Seems more likely 247 goofed. Or maybe not. We shall see. I am not going to argue about it.
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I would think he would have updated his personal Twitter page and told someone besides 24/7. He would also just withdraw from the portal, not sign a letter of intent.
Seems more likely 247 goofed. Or maybe not. We shall see. I am not going to argue about it.
Aw, go ahead and argue.
I question your sources. 😉
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I don't appreciate having my posts edited.
So someone is deleting and editing posts?
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Jasn, you pulling some shit on Jobu?! 😂🤣
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Jasn, you pulling some shit on Jobu?! 😂🤣
It's not funny. Fuck you too, Judy.
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This is bullshit. And yes, I'm fucking pissed. This is low.
If it helps, I got a laugh from your RIP post.
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I guess we have to double check our posts to make sure someone didn't edit them?
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Apparently, I overreacted to a joke. My bad. I shouldn't have posted my last few posts. Makes me look like an asshole. Sorry. Disregard.
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Apparently, I overreacted to a joke. My bad. I shouldn't have posted my last few posts. Makes me look like an asshole. Sorry. Disregard.
Jobu gone Joba-llistic LOL
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Jobu gone Joba-llistic LOL
Yep. I'm a dipshit I guess.
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And now, I just get left out here looking like an asshole. This is great.
Thanks!
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And now, I just get left out here looking like an asshole. This is great.
Thanks!
it's alright in reality, none of us has a paddle... we are all in that same creek.
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Un. Fucking. Believable.
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And now, I just get left out here looking like an asshole. This is great.
Thanks!
Aren't you though, here?
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Aren't you though, here?
I guess. Apparently, it's cool and funny to delete my posts and piss me off.
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I have always loved this place because we can say whatever the fuck we want, and it's pretty much free. But when posts are getting deleted and edited, that's a hard fucking no for me. Not cool at all. Even if it was a joke, it sucks.
Fuck that shit.
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Jesus Christ overreaction much
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I want everyone to know this was MY fault.
Jobu made a comment about Moretti needing a heart emoji by his name in Ray’s roster he posted.
I thought it was be really funny if I just actually added the 💕💕 around Moretti in Ray’s post and deleted Jobu’s so it looked like Ray did it on his own. Sorry it caused such a shit show. This isn’t something I normally do, just thought it was a hilarious one off thing to do to have a little fun. Sorry!!! Everyone calm the fuck down it was harmless
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Hey, it's the thought that counts.
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I have always loved this place because we can say whatever the fuck we want, and it's pretty much free. But when posts are getting deleted and edited, that's a hard fucking no for me. Not cool at all. Even if it was a joke, it sucks.
Fuck that shit.
If you do leave this place, and I prefer that you don't, Sunday is already taken for a Resurrection if you do decide to come back.
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If you do leave this place, and I prefer that you don't, Sunday is already taken for a Resurrection if you do decide to come back.
Maybe Jobu IS the Resurrection…
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Jesus Christ overreaction much
Maybe it was an overreaction, but I don't care for my shit getting deleted. Sorry.
I felt like my joke could stand on it's own. I thought deleting it sucked. You may disagree, you may not.
Whatever, man.
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I did it specifically because I thought you of all people would appreciate it. It got fucked up when Ray edited it back before you saw it. It was a bad idea on my part and I’ve apologized. Was meant to be harmless fun. It won’t happen again. I’m with Mn on the resurrection thing.
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Fine. It can be squashed.
Someone can say they want to break my fucking face or call me any number of names on here, and I don't care. Alter or delete my posts, and it pisses me off. That's all.
No big deal. It's over with.
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Well, now that that is settled, how 'bout them Illini?
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Well, now that that is settled, how 'bout them Illini?
We don’t need the convincing about them. You do. 😂
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Best make the FTs against the Cyclones.
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Hilarious.
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Well, now that that is settled, how 'bout them Illini?
It depends
Hawkins has a covid year, but most likely will stay in the draft this time. (1)
Domask has a Tommy DeVito appeal, most likely will lose. (2)
Shannon, Guerrier, and Harmon are plumb outa eligibility. There was also a vacant ride. (6)
3 incoming freshmen (3)
Depending on who ya ask, Moretti and Goode are for sure staying or likely gone.
They can add 3 to 5 from the portal?
Rumor is Mercer transfer Jake Davis will commit soon.
247 says Jake Davis was offered by, committed to, and signed with Mercer a couple days ago. Makes no sense. If he decided to return, he would simply withdraw from the portal. He would not transfer from Mercer to Mercer
All other sources, including his own social media, have him in the portal.
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This is the guy I really want!
https://x.com/travisbranham_/status/1772373610285469915?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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This is the guy I really want!
https://x.com/travisbranham_/status/1772373610285469915?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
We al concur on this one....there are a few others as well so far, we will be hearing of them sooner than later unfortunately, but not to soon.
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fake my death but don't you dare delete my posts
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fake my death but don't you dare delete my posts
Well internet posts live forever, except when they don’t.
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We don’t need the convincing about them. You do. 😂
I have them winning it all in my Bracket.
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fake my death but don't you dare delete my posts
Fuck off, you pussy. Why don't you make another grand exit?
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I love this place.
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Looks like we have one on board for next year already.
https://twitter.com/matthewcstevens/status/1773175206686671177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1773175206686671177%7Ctwgr%5E8024ede95238e9849025ebeefb40a51a5867901a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.illinoisloyalty.com%2Fpost%2Fillinois-hoops-recruiting-thread.34133%2Fpage-15
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And a post from the same link has Hawkins, Domask and Guerrier .. .....
At the end of a post game presser from 1 of our last 2 games, Dain showed his good upbringing when he returned his chair to under the table. These guys must have noticed. Lol.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1773052754983870469
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Hope Jake Davis gets a haircut if he comes here. I’m a big Led Zeppelin fan, but having a SG who constantly reminds me of Robert Plant feels weird. Shallow of me, I know.
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Hope Jake Davis gets a haircut if he comes here. I’m a big Led Zeppelin fan, but having a SG who constantly reminds me of Robert Plant feels weird. Shallow of me, I know.
Who cares, if he comes here, maybe Coach can turn him into a "locks" down defender also?
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Minnesota Pharrel Payne hitting the portal....I would LOVE to get this guy, he has NBA written all over him. Physical, skilled, athletic, man what our staff could turn him into for the ILLINI!!
https://247sports.com/Player/pharrel-payne-46115861/TimelineEvents/
Would take him over Reed or any other Big right now for upcoming years....let Dain-Payne play down/low and Morez swing inside/out. Combo made in even right there.
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Hope Jake Davis gets a haircut if he comes here. I’m a big Led Zeppelin fan, but having a SG who constantly reminds me of Robert Plant feels weird. Shallow of me, I know.
Good times, bad times
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Who cares, if he comes here, maybe Coach can turn him into a "locks" down defender also?
Well done.
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Good times, bad times
Also well done.
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Hopefully his shooting will be so hot that he needs coolin’.
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https://247sports.com/Player/AJ-Storr-46110087/
100%
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Hope Jake Davis gets a haircut if he comes here. I’m a big Led Zeppelin fan, but having a SG who constantly reminds me of Robert Plant feels weird. Shallow of me, I know.
WTF are you talking about?
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Fuck off, you pussy. Why don't you make another grand exit?
As a great American once said, "Can't we all just get along? Go Illini!"
That's an actual quote.
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https://247sports.com/Player/AJ-Storr-46110087/
100%
Let me know when it is 110%
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As a great American once said, "Can't we all just get along? Go Illini!"
That's an actual quote.
Fuck that. He came at me. He can eat shit.
Go Illini! I-L-L
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Fuck that. He came at me. He can eat shit.
Go Illini! I-L-L
Well, he fell for the bit in the first place.
I-L-L
S-O-X
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Fuck that. He came at me. He can eat shit.
Go Illini! I-L-L
Tho, I do admire people who hold grudges.
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I'L.L. get along when you want to get along applies here I think!
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247 leads me to believe that Jake not at State Farm Davis is staying at Mercer.
🤷
(https://i.ibb.co/smKpxwq/Screenshot-20240327-080615-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xC1K9j6)
(https://i.ibb.co/CPSwR9T/Screenshot-20240401-140022-2.png) (https://ibb.co/Y0VNHdq)
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I'm already reading that we would have been better off without him.
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I trust Underwood to build a good roster. He’s shown us over and over again that he can. I trust his and his staff’s judgement on players.
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I'm already reading that we would have been better off without him.
Jobu? Dainja? Jake Davis? Who you talking about here?
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Jobu? Dainja? Jake Davis? Who you talking about here?
With NIL and the portal it will be whoever we don't get or whoever goes.
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https://twitter.com/igb_Amani/status/1774528697741058093?t=d0KOLX2_1R7eo3I-2K0lvA&s=19
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https://twitter.com/igb_Amani/status/1774528697741058093?t=d0KOLX2_1R7eo3I-2K0lvA&s=19
Yeah man, he ain’t leavin…
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Dead period
April 4–11, 2024 (noon)
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Fears on ESPNU
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Fears on ESPNU
I’m extremely looking forward to him being an Illini. Kid is legit!
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Jace Butler de-committing. Apparently was already making demands for guaranteed playing time.
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Jace Butler de-committing. Apparently was already making demands for guaranteed playing time.
Yeah, fuck that. You’re a freshman and we are gonna get people in the portal who are ahead of you. If you don’t like that, then you don’t have the right attitude to be here anyways. Especially from a fringe top-100 guy.
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Jace Butler de-committing. Apparently was already making demands for guaranteed playing time.
That's not how basketball works lol
if you suck you don't play, most freshmen suck... enjoy your playing time at EKU or Sac State or wherever you wind up
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I don't know a lot about him. It has been suggested here he has similar qualities to Jaylen Brunson.
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He can always transfer
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Yeah man, he ain’t leavin…
https://twitter.com/igb_Amani/status/1777438550037778871?t=Q2PCqUur6MpBdenYxAUBYw&s=19
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Man we could really lucky afterall, all interchangeable spots once again, plus any transfers. We will never see short guards across the board any longer.
Domask 6'6" ????
CoHawk 6'10" ????
Harris 6'4"
Rodgers 6'6"
Johnson 6'9"
Amani 6'8"
Davis 6'7" Transfer In
White 6'7" Transfer In
Goode 6'7"
DGL 6'1"
Morettil 6'1" (transfer)?
Jakstys 6'11" (redshirt)
TBD yet - PG Dante-Kylan-C (Would love Wolf-Garrison-Payne or will we get an unknown so far?)
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He is H1M…
https://x.com/leaguerdy/status/1782048482024411255?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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like
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This could get fun!
https://x.com/wischlist/status/1782212075239903443?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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This could get fun!
https://x.com/wischlist/status/1782212075239903443?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
OA pulls that B1G fish in then WOW. AJ, Boz, Domask possibly, CoHawk (probably if Domask comes back) and Rodgers with Goode/DGL/White/Davis/Jaksys/Morez/Moretti (X-fer)? and more coming...damn this gonna be fun for sure...
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LFG
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He is H1M…
https://x.com/leaguerdy/status/1782048482024411255?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Wischnowsky blocked me 2-3 years ago lol.
What did he post?
Oops, quoted wrong link.
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Wischnowsky blocked me 2-3 years ago lol.
What did he post?
Oops, quoted wrong link.
(https://i.ibb.co/Y3qYtw8/IMG-3569.png) (https://ibb.co/BtSdgFj)
(https://i.ibb.co/16dftmJ/IMG-3571.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9tV9kr3)
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OA at it again.
https://www.news-gazette.com/newsletter/content/sports/illini_basketball/good-morning-illini-nation-illinois-offers-2025-guard-amari-evans/article_d0315fb3-f35a-5cd3-b385-7570f9d4b620.html
6'5 PG, I like it
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And there we have it. Very nice pickup for the Illini…
https://x.com/dpiper247/status/1787502779893780695?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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And there we have it. Very nice pickup for the Illini…
https://x.com/dpiper247/status/1787502779893780695?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Now that we have more of a traditional 5 committed, then that allows a bunch more options. (CoHawk) if he is coming back won't have to play that defensively, and if he doesn't come back we still have a lot of options, because TI can play in/out some as well.
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TI Highlights: Very smooth release on the jumper, uses both hands inside for baby hooks, muscles to spots, not extremely athletic-fluid with movements however. Also seems to have an array of release points/creativity around the hoop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WPWq3mZ8Lk
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ILLINI next year as of now:
6'2 K. Bosewell
6'2 DGL
6'6 Rodgers
6'7 White
6'6 Davis
6'9 Humrichous
6'9 Johnson
6'10 Booth
6'10 Jakstys
7'1 Ivisic
Coleman (he will be 2nd round and if so will leave) still out there along with a scoring wing, another guard. Seniors would be more than likely imo.
Who's next, man we got some size off the bench and on the floor at all times.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/brad-underwood-s-three-approaches-to-the-transfer-portal/ar-BB1m5O4y?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=1557f213a9e34b76a00494c33acc3d04&ei=38
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/meet-the-nominees-for-2023-24-all-usa-today-hssa-boys-basketball-player-of-the-year/ar-BB1m74TO?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=08a75b41789b40a386f9081ffca17d74&ei=38
Morez made the list and rightly so.
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GREAT offer for a very young baller..
https://bvmsports.com/2024/05/16/illinois-basketball-offers-scholarship-to-top-prospect-howard-williams-in-class-of-2027/
Getting in earlier and often for the Chicago talent.
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Got a gem here it sounds like…
https://x.com/jwerner247/status/1795442207836758233?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Got a gem here it sounds like…
https://x.com/jwerner247/status/1795442207836758233?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
PODZ skill set maybe better overall than that....Boz and him with DGL give us a very above avg backcourt to mesh with a very above avg frontcourt. Next year will be fun to watch the growth.
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I still think our backcourt is a little weak/unproven. For sure need another quality backup level player at the 1/2 or 2/3 spot.
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LFG
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We should be entertaining again, not sure if we'll be entertaining good or bad
Can't wait for the season to start, lets fucking goooo
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We should be entertaining again, not sure if we'll be entertaining good or bad
Can't wait for the season to start, lets fucking goooo
It does make it much more exciting having a whole new roster every year! I think this is easily a tourney team based on talent alone, but we’ll see how it all fits together. That’s the key. Once in the tourney, it’s all a crapshoot from there.
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KJ didn't much the Barttorvick ranking much.
This will be an interesting team to watch. Lots of talent and potential...
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I don’t think it factors in international players
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Both Big T and KJ are factored in.
https://barttorvik.com/rostercast.php?team=Illinois&year=2024
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LOVE LOVE LOVE the overall height, length and athletic ability this team will have next year and years to come.
I think the only surefire starters as of now are Rodgers and Boswell.
3 positionless spots up for grabs through practice
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Both Big T and KJ are factored in.
https://barttorvik.com/rostercast.php?team=Illinois&year=2024
I meant more along the lines that they don’t really have them adequately scouted and scored. But I couldn’t be wrong. Thought I saw that somewhere.
They have DGL, a guy who played minutes for a top 6 finishing elite 8 team, as an “other” behind undeveloped project big Jakstys, who will likely redshirt.
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We should be entertaining again, not sure if we'll be entertaining good or bad
Can't wait for the season to start, lets fucking goooo
Hope none of the guys we bought in are heavy Monster drinkers who love punching teammates.
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https://x.com/BamBam_Boz/status/1795494537336705141?t=2mKxHRhg60MPndVkYPAkgg&s=19
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https://www.youtube.com/live/yoBMisM9a-8
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https://www.youtube.com/live/yoBMisM9a-8
Care to recap for someone who doesnt have 80 minutes to kill?
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-Skyy Clark regrets leaving Illinois
-Skyy Clark then advised Tre White to transfer here.
According to TA.
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Care to recap for someone who doesnt have 80 minutes to kill?
And who would that be? Can't be you. How is the bowling team doing?
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And who would that be? Can't be you. How is the bowling team doing?
Good 👍 i averaged 181 last night and the team won all 5 points
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Care to recap for someone who doesnt have 80 minutes to kill?
30+ seconds of Tim Anderson.
https://x.com/i/status/1798013483247911257
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Does these euro trash players come with a pronunciation guide ?
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30+ seconds of Tim Anderson.
https://x.com/i/status/1798013483247911257
thanks, exactly what I needed ;D
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Didn’t Skyy leave because a guy who looked like he was from Loda punched him?
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Kanon Catchings released from NLOI. We were in his top 3. Would be a helluva backup plan if we miss on Will Riley
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Kendall Gill's kid going to NU....
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Kendall Gill's kid going to NU....
Have you heard the story about we didn't want him anyway ?
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We lost the 229th ranked player to NW?
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Kendall Gill's kid going to NU....
Good spot for him. Collins is a capable coach. If he improves; he can always transfer.
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Have you heard the story about we didn't want him anyway ?
Maybe he didnt want to play in his dads shadow, plus hes closer to home, good pickup for them
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Maybe he didnt want to play in his dads shadow, plus hes closer to home, good pickup for them
It was meant to be a joke.
I wish him nothing but the best.
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It was meant to be a joke.
I wish him nothing but the best.
Except when playing against the beloved, of course
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Except when playing against the beloved, of course
Damn straight. Lol
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https://x.com/Recru1t1ng_Guru/status/1800343219445846087?t=cFWupn6ob1J1fcHVVYd6mw&s=19
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Will Riley announcing on June 23rd. Would be a MASSIVE get.
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Will Riley announcing on June 23rd. Would be a MASSIVE get.
And a MASSIVE get it is. 5 star SF, 10th ranked overall recruit in 2025.
He's reclassifying to 2024 and will be working out with the team in July.
Welcome aboard!
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And a MASSIVE get it is. 5 star SF, 10th ranked overall recruit in 2025.
He's reclassifying to 2024 and will be working out with the team in July.
Welcome aboard!
Hell yeah! Highest ranked recruit ever in composite rankings in Illinois history. God bless Brad Underwood and Orlando Antigua!
https://x.com/cbkreport/status/1804946568799232338?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Well this sure puts us in a nice position. Way to go staff!
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And a MASSIVE get it is. 5 star SF, 10th ranked overall recruit in 2025.
He's reclassifying to 2024 and will be working out with the team in July.
Welcome aboard!
That's great. Took him away from Bama, Arkansas, Arizona and Ky.
(https://i.ibb.co/kKKfyFC/Screenshot-20240623-155617-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6YYxZ5C)
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Jasper Johnson could be next. Fingers crossed.
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Jasper Johnson could be next. Fingers crossed.
Yeah, another 5-star for next year. What we’re doing is amazing.
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Love whatever we did to get this guy in CU. This is going to be the most duct-taped Mad Max car roster in Illinois history and it should be fun.
Boswell, Rodgers, White, Morez, Ivisic, Jakucionis, and Riley is a solid top 7 where every guy is either an established college player or on draft boards.
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And a MASSIVE get it is. 5 star SF, 10th ranked overall recruit in 2025.
He's reclassifying to 2024 and will be working out with the team in July.
Welcome aboard!
All righty then!
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(https://i.ibb.co/MC93s3d/IMG-4634.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4VJ575k)
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And a MASSIVE get it is. 5 star SF, 10th ranked overall recruit in 2025.
He's reclassifying to 2024 and will be working out with the team in July.
Welcome aboard!
A little Durantish, Gervinish, style of play, and 5* 1 yr player? Like the get, Jasper with Fears added here and if we are lucky to get 2 years outta Riley...WOW, BU is cooking with OA and the rest of them!
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Wow.
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2024-2025 ILLINI are going to be special if they can gel....I am sure the staff will make that happen. That said what does our lineup look like as starters? Everyone imo will get 15-20 minutes per game so it may not matter time wise, it will to players however.
I could see multiple multiple starting lineups based on talent, matchups, earned time, buy in to the system, best guess to start season however would be in a positionless (title only) format.
PG - Boswell
SG - Jakucionis
SF - Riley
PF - Rodgers
C - Humrichous
Bench
White
Isivic
Johnson
Booth
DGL
Davis-Redshirt?
Jakstys - Redshirt?
The staff has worked their asses off during our off season and we now have as much talent since 1989 squad overall. Lets hope they can get all that talent to pay off, since we have paid them off....legally of course. LOL, we are a destination spot now. Never words uttered about Chambana before.
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https://x.com/likekidcudi/status/1803431692704591960?t=C462kH4V9icguJhkr29xVQ&s=19
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I will be surprised if Humdinger plays the 5. It would create mismatches, but then his man would just guard Rodgers like teams did with Hawkins.
Humrichaus is even more a wing than Hawkins.
I see Ivisic, Morez, and Booth rotating at the 5. They all get double digit minutes early on. Jakstys almost certainly redshirts unless there are injuries and he progresses rapidly.
Humbrickhouse, White, And Rodgers rotate at forwards. They can all play the 3 or 4. Maybe some leftover tick for Davis.
Boswell and Riley at guards with Jakucionis off the bench. Maybe some quality minutes for Gibbs-Lawhorn.
It seems like Brad has preferred a fairly short bench. I thought 2004 [2024]did better when he started using the bench a little more.
It will be interesting to see if he can keep all this talent happy.
One point. There have been a few a coaches that liked to press and run, and used a long bench. -- Tom Davis at Iowa, Pitino especially at UK come to my mind. Even though they had 9 or more guys with double digit tick; there were still 2 or even 3 that would play 30 or more minutes.
Also, balanced scoring is nice, but the best teams usually have at least a primary and secondary option put up bigger numbers and get those bigger minutes.
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I have no idea what to think of this squad. Collection of what seems to be a lot of talent and length, various levels of experience. There aren’t many cases of big success following a turnover of this magnitude, but it hasn’t been happening in this NIL and transfer environment for that long either to give us a huge database. The brutal non conference scares me as this team will be trying to figure shit out while other teams will be way more advanced in that regard. I think they’ll probably be pretty good by the meat of the conference slate, but may be in a big hole to climb out of by then. Maybe the key is keeping the best of these guys around for a big run the second year.
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I will be surprised if Humdinger plays the 5. It would create mismatches, but then his man would just guard Rodgers like teams did with Hawkins.
Humrichaus is even more a wing than Hawkins.
I see Ivisic, Morez, and Booth rotating at the 5. They all get double digit minutes early on. Jakstys almost certainly redshirts unless there are injuries and he progresses rapidly.
Humbrickhouse, White, And Rodgers rotate at forwards. They can all play the 3 or 4. Maybe some leftover tick for Davis.
Boswell and Riley at guards with Jakucionis off the bench. Maybe some quality minutes for Gibbs-Lawhorn.
It seems like Brad has preferred a fairly short bench. I thought 2004 did better when he started using the bench a little more.
It will be interesting to see if he can keep all this talent happy.
One point. There have been a few a coaches that liked to press and run, and used a long bench. -- Tom Davis at Iowa, Pitino especially at UK come to my mind. Even though they had 9 or more guys with double digit tick; there were still 2 or even 3 that would play 30 or more minutes.
Also, balanced scoring is nice, but the best teams usually have at least a primary and secondary option put up bigger numbers and get those bigger minutes.
Agree with most of this, good comments. Humrichous @ 5 was more as the 5th starter, not the traditional 5...we will have ALOT of length to eliminate drives. That said if a more traditional set is utilized, then I could see Isivic at the 5 starting. We want athletic rim protectors, as we will probably never emply a traditional 5 again.
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If Humrichous is our starting 5 it tells me both Morez and Ivisic are relative busts and that would be bad for a number of reasons. I could see Humrichous starting at the 4 if Rodgers jumps at being 6th man, but if Morez is on the bench watching a transfer from a lower half Valley team chuck 3s from his position I'm not sure why any coach would help their 5-star Mr. Basketball type guys play for Brad again.
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If Humrichous is our starting 5 it tells me both Morez and Ivisic are relative busts and that would be bad for a number of reasons. I could see Humrichous starting at the 4 if Rodgers jumps at being 6th man, but if Morez is on the bench watching a transfer from a lower half Valley team chuck 3s from his position I'm not sure why any coach would help their 5-star Mr. Basketball type guys play for Brad again.
Leadership, experience, position less, I think if Humrichous is a starter, then the 5 (non position less) would be what you would call it in simple terms, not necessarily that he is a "5" by skillset. That said, I am not sure where/when/what he plays is any indictment on Morez/Ivisic being a bust or not. One is a freshman (very very talented inexperienced one) and the other is a unknown except for European play, how either translates has nothing to do with Humrichous imo.
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This is a very talented 9 man rotation. (Doubtful DGL plays much.)
Hopefully the majority of this group is around for 2 years. They could be top 5 in 2025-2026.
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Humrichous averaged <5 rpg and played with a guy who's 6-10 and averaged 6+. If you trot him out at the 5 in the B1G without a bigger guy in the post, you will get mollywhopped.
For comparison, Marcus Domask had more rebounds per game in the same conference as a 4th year player.
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Morez or ivisic will be the 5. Whoever wins that position battle.
Humrichous is not projected to be a 5 unless something goes wrong.
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Excellent use of mollywhopped, which is what happened to mollycoddled Bruce Weber teams
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Riley's addition moves them to 44th on barttorvick..
Can see a starting 5 of Big T, Rodgers, Riley, White & Boswell, with Johnson, Booth, Hum and KJ in the rotation.
Also saw KJ projected 59th best freshman on this site.
https://www.on3.com/db/rankings/player/basketball/2024/
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Well what in the actual fuckery?!?!?!
https://x.com/jeremiahfears2/status/1807845690166632835?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
https://x.com/mrwagner25/status/1807850388080505125?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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🤷♂️ these days until I see the kid in a basketball uniform playing im not going to really bother caring
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Sounds like Fears wants to reclassify to 2024. If he did that, he wouldn't play at all at Illinois. He does not really look physically ready.
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Yeah and it’s ok because we are on fucking 🔥 recruiting. Appears we might already have his replacement and ranked higher as well…
https://x.com/eric_hoops/status/1807856221871038932?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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There is no point to any of this since everyone leaves where they are at for more cash anyway.
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Providence
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Meh. The kid probably saw the writing on the wall with the talent we were bringing in and he and his family decided it was in his best interest to pursue a better opportunity elsewhere. Buzz right now is that spot is likely going to be Providence.
If this were the Groce/Weber years, a kid the caliber of Fears decommitting would be a death sentence for the program(neither would have secured a commitment from him to begin with but that’s besides the point). Thankfully Underwood and staff have shown the ability to recover and go on to next one.
Your table is ready, Jasper Johnson.
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Meh. The kid probably saw the writing on the wall with the talent we were bringing in and he and his family decided it was in his best interest to pursue a better opportunity elsewhere. Buzz right now is that spot is likely going to be Providence.
If this were the Groce/Weber years, a kid the caliber of Fears decommitting would be a death sentence for the program(neither would have secured a commitment from him to begin with but that’s besides the point). Thankfully Underwood and staff have shown the ability to recover and go on to next one.
Your table is ready, Jasper Johnson.
+1, good post
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Sounds like Fears wants to reclassify to 2024. If he did that, he wouldn't play at all at Illinois. He does not really look physically ready.
ILLINI never wanted Fears to Reclass, Fears wants it, it appears....NIL $$$ going out to the likes of Riley/Johnson (?), with those 2 added, my guess is our talent pool is far better overall and more flexible.
Make no mistake we really wanted Fears, but just not in the 24 class, and even if he had stay committed, the 25 team would still be partially intact from this 24 roster left overs. Not all will go PRO after 1 year, not all will look to jump ship.
Fears would have been up against it PT wise imo with a partial/full 2024 team left over to compete against.
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ILLINI never wanted Fears to Reclass, Fears wants it, it appears....NIL $$$ going out to the likes of Riley/Johnson (?), with those 2 added, my guess is our talent pool is far better overall and more flexible.
Make no mistake we really wanted Fears, but just not in the 24 class, and even if he had stay committed, the 25 team would still be partially intact from this 24 roster left overs. Not all will go PRO after 1 year, not all will look to jump ship.
Fears would have been up against it PT wise imo with a partial/full 2024 team left over to compete against.
+1
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Shorter version: we didn't want him anyways?
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Shorter version: we didn't want him anyways?
We wanted him to enroll 2nd semester and redshirt.
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We wanted him to enroll 2nd semester and redshirt.
We didn't want him anyway in 2024?
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I watched the Sleepers bit about this a little bit ago and their thoughts were that he’d have been really hard pressed to find time as a 2024 freshman here with all the moves we’ve made since he committed. Not to mention the staff seems to be all-in on Jasper Johnson. Long ways to go in that one, but he’s a better player and fits the mold better. Fears can’t really shoot at this point and his strengths at the level he’s playing now will be nullified to a large extent when he’s up against bigger, more athletic collegiate players that have learned how to play defense. Those guys thought it was really strange that after Fears committed we brought in Boswell for 2 years then got KJ and then put the full court press on Jasper Johnson, and the Fears decommit makes it all make more sense now. Fears family thinks the kid is 1 and done material and if he reclasses he might not even see the floor here in year 1. And still be behind Boswell and/or KJ and JJ year 2.
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Would not be surprised to see a final pick for J Fears being Michigan (Dug gone it is gone) and new coach as well....NEED guard play this year!!!
That is my guess...easy to get into, (9th in the transfer portal 24/7), only ranked sub 50 in overall rankings...with Tre Donaldson from Auburn only competition in front of him really. Not to mention the $$$$ I am sure will be there as well.
ILLINI is composite at 50th btw, but guard play and in/out guards favors us WAY more than Michigan obviously.
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Illini aren't in the top 30 in this updated ESPN ranking..
I'm not buying Purdue as top 20. Edey seemed to have really carried Purdue in the past.
UCONN has a legit shot to 3peat.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39895473/mens-college-basketball-way-too-early-top-25-rankings-2024-25-season
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Illini aren't in the top 30 in this updated ESPN ranking..
I'm not buying Purdue as top 20. Edey seemed to have really carried Purdue in the past.
UCONN has a legit shot to 3peat.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39895473/mens-college-basketball-way-too-early-top-25-rankings-2024-25-season
It’s unbelievable how bad their rankings are. Damn that’s bad.
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I don’t get the Purdue love either.
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The legit ones would be imo: Kansas, Alabama, Gonzaga, are all Top Caliber with legit chances to win the whole thing.
Wanna Be's UCONN, (3rd ain't happening), Baylor, Duke, UNC, Tex A/M, Indiana, Rutgers.
The rest of the Top 25 and beyond is far to unknown to even think about where they will end up. If BU can work his magic again, Sweet 16 maybe (?), talent would suggest more as well, but who knows. It will be fun to watch the growth and team play.
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I don't get these rankings. Arkansas is stacked but has 3 other SEC teams of less desired recruits/returners ahead of them, and all four of those teams are above Creighton, who return 2 of the best players from the no. 10 team in the country and add Texas Tech's best player.
From 19 down is a crap shoot of teams that aside from Texas I don't get. Kentucky cleaned house and I wouldn't trade any of their starters for ours one-up.
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I don't get these rankings. Arkansas is stacked but has 3 other SEC teams of less desired recruits/returners ahead of them, and all four of those teams are above Creighton, who return 2 of the best players from the no. 10 team in the country and add Texas Tech's best player.
From 19 down is a crap shoot of teams that aside from Texas I don't get. Kentucky cleaned house and I wouldn't trade any of their starters for ours one-up.
+1
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Top 25 incoming Freshman read:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/big-ten-basketball-s-top-25-incoming-freshmen-for-2024-25-season/ar-BB1q1MOW?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=2337a97fd7304477a693ea04cf73b4d6&ei=56
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Thanks Chief
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Have we ever had a better freshman class?
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Pretty sure Riley put Rez in the spin cycle in this clip....the kid is good for sure! Gonna be fun!!
https://x.com/IlliniMBB/status/1813364089130758145
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2025 new offer to Gavin Gores.
https://www.instagram.com/ny2lasports/reel/C6e9wMQN4sf/
Big Ten body, quick off the feet, has handles, alot to like here.
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Big things happening with Illini basketball! Exciting time to be a fan!
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Big things happening with Illini basketball! Exciting time to be a fan!
CT, ChicagoFan, and mamadork must be furious!
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Tomislav Ivišić on campus?
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Fears reclassed to 2024 and committed Sooner than later.
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Fears reclassed to 2024 and committed Sooner than later.
Ha ha
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Fears reclassed to 2024 and committed Sooner than later.
Good one
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Wouldn't mind seeing the staff talk to this kid...realize all we want are 5* obviously, but this kid can play.
2025 PG Omari Moore N.J. 6'-3" 180, uses both hands, plays with great pace, very willing passer, plays defense and is lengthy build with room to get Fletched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taVA84wouqI
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Piper with a CB for Spencer Ahrens…
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Rumors swirling that Tim Anderson is possibly being asked to leave/pushed out by Underwood and heading to Memphis…
No idea what’s true or not but the move there wouldn’t make sense unless it wasn’t his choice…
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Keaton Wagler commits. One of the elite shooters in the country. Nice get.
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Keaton Wagler commits. One of the elite shooters in the country. Nice get.
Free shot percentages good?
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I can’t even imagine having to be the person to come up with a recruiting matrix in these times. Reminds me of the Butler kid we landed before he kinda blew up, but we recruited over him and he went somewhere else late in the game. Hard not to trust the staff at this point however.
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I can’t even imagine having to be the person to come up with a recruiting matrix in these times. Reminds me of the Butler kid we landed before he kinda blew up, but we recruited over him and he went somewhere else late in the game. Hard not to trust the staff at this point however.
That was also a ramification of Chet Frazier leaving. Butler wound up at Washington so we'll probably see him in a conference game.
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That was also a ramification of Chet Frazier leaving. Butler wound up at Washington so we'll probably see him in a conference game.
That’s true. I couldn’t think of it off the top of my head. Think the kid is going to be a really solid college player and was upset he bailed. Good to see you here Calvin.
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Tim Anderson gone.
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Tim Anderson gone.
He had to do something Underwood didn’t like. Rumor is Underwood pushed him out…
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He had to do something Underwood didn’t like. Rumor is Underwood pushed him out…
Who did he fuck?
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Who did he fuck?
Dee Brown’s wife
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Dee Brown’s wife
Payback is a bitch. It’s the only way things could be made right after what Dee did! 😂
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Who did he fuck?
Not Jobu’s wife. She ain’t been puttin’ out.
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He wanted another raise and an extension. Whitman said no. Things escalated..
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He wanted another raise and an extension. Whitman said no. Things escalated..
He’s probably Memphis bound…
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He’s probably Memphis bound…
He might have a non coaching gig lined up.
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So basically we have no fucking idea why he left
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So basically we have no fucking idea why he left
He was unhappy that Antigua is the man and got paid.
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He was unhappy that Antigua is the man and got paid.
This.
Illinois isn't giving any raises or extensions until next spring and GA is the top priority.
TA is already earning near the top dollar for assistants. It is not about the money per se. It's Antigua getting more, and he wasn't part of the EE run.
When Josh said no to a raise and extension, he tried to leverage the offer from Memphis.
When that failed, he apparently started looking at taking a break from coaching. That's my impression. I hope it didn't make Jobu tired.
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This.
Illinois isn't giving any raises or extensions until next spring and GA is the top priority.
TA is already earning near the top dollar for assistants. It is not about the money per se. It's Antigua getting more, and he wasn't part of the EE run.
When Josh said no to a raise and extension, he tried to leverage the offer from Memphis.
When that failed, he apparently started looking at taking a break from coaching. That's my impression. I hope it didn't make Jobu tired.
Yeah power play by Anderson that failed. He’s making great money, he just doesn’t like the power dynamic. He wants to be THE guy. It’s more about ego.
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Yeah power play by Anderson that failed. He’s making great money, he just doesn’t like the power dynamic. He wants to be THE guy. It’s more about ego.
Doesn't sound like he's ten toes in
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Doesn't sound like he's ten toes in
Nope, and Underwood correctly told him to take a fucking hike because of it it appears.
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Jacob Furphy (Aussie) on visit Oct 6th weekend?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faz553vVn4Y Hard to watch, seems to get buckets, drives, passes, seems unathletic though.
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/nba/news/dash-daniels-jacob-furphy-highlight-2024-nba-academy-games/c77884bc49e12d853c315295
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Jacob Furphy unathletic?!
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Jacob Furphy unathletic?!
By B1G standards yes, by SEC standards Hell yes....the kid is a cerebral, High IQ player by all accts, he is crafty, can get shots, athletic is not his forte...
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Jacob Furphy unathletic?!
the Kansas Johnny Furphy wasn't unathletic at all
funny that "A furphy is Australian slang for an erroneous or improbable story that is claimed to be factual."
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funny that "A furphy is Australian slang for an erroneous or improbable story that is claimed to be factual."
Like Covid?
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Oh come on, for fucks sake. I just watched that video and now my fucking eyes are bleeding.
Seriously
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That's not real.
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Brandon Lee commits! I fucking loved The Crow movie as a kid. Too bad he actually died on set.
Anyway, four star shooting guard out of NJ. Staff continues to cook on the recruiting trail.
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https://www.on3.com/news/4-star-sg-brandon-lee-commits-to-illinois/
Welcome Aboard B Lee!
6'5" ? Quick Release https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn6IXAPaW9k
NY RENS - Connection-Kofi played with them IIRC ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLMtScf_cE0, play at 1:42 was nice, he will be a spot up shooter, possibly off bench instant offense type.
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PLEASE go and get in on Mouhamed Sylla - Belle Vista Prep-Scottsdale AZ!! This guy is moving up fast, we are already way in on Spencer Ahrens, lets get them both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAY1lQ3rSAc
https://247sports.com/college/virginia/longformarticle/mouhammad-sylla-eric-reibe-cj-ingram-headline-2025-rankings-update-biggest-movers-236089438/#2486857
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Brandon Lee is Butch Lee's kid.
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Brandon Lee is Butch Lee's kid.
Yes, he’s got a great bloodline!
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Butch Lee coached Orlando Antigua
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That’s cool
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Butch Lee coached Orlando Antigua
And someday Brandon Lee will probably coach Gainesville Antigua.
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And someday Brandon Lee will probably coach Gainesville Antigua.
Good one, Sven!
Nice to see you here!
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So now that we have 2025 off to a good start (welcome Wagler-Lee) before the season even, where does the program go from here for the next wave? I don't believe either Wagler or Lee will be immediate contributors (few freshman really are), and we won't need them to be if we keep key players.
We have 2 spots still open with an anticipated additional 3-4 with all of them most certainly being wings/forward-mobile center types of need.
Really would like the staff to look at the Sylla kid, who is playing alongside Ahrens at Belle Vista.
https://247sports.com/player/mouhamed-sylla-46148885/
Kai Rogers would be a really nice get at size/ability, offers are pretty meh so far, with Oklahoma exception. Porter will be hard to beat imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBJB7YX_jA4
Asher Elson offers are not on par with us imo, size and ability are good, shooter, who would need Fletch and alot more work. Brooklyn NY kid.
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Lincoln Williams visit-follow up after offer. What are the chances BU and staff get a verbal/what are the chances he reclass to 2025?
https://bvmsports.com/2024/09/30/lincoln-williams-top-2026-recruit-visits-illinois-basketball-oct-19/
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Markell Alston would be a very nice add to the team next year. Add Ahrens and Sylla from Phoenix, and that would be a very nice class with players at each spot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHlsfQ_PK98
Kaspar leaving more than likely
Boswell a senior
DGL a junior
Rest wing players mostly with the exception of Davis and the newbies committed already.
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It appears the Ahrens ship might have sailed.
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It appears the Ahrens ship might have sailed.
I would hope not, he would be a very good piece to our next puzzle (each year it's a new one it seems), that said Asher Elson out of Brooklyn would do very nicely as well.
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This was supposed to be a done deal 2 months ago. There hasn't been any buzz and now he is visiting Boise State.
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This was supposed to be a done deal 2 months ago. There hasn't been any buzz and now he is visiting Boise State.
Antigua vs Boise St...C'mon where is TA when you need him LOL
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Antigua vs Boise St...C'mon where is TA when you need him LOL
Maybe he doesn't want to reclass and / or redshirt? Maybe he doesn't want to sit at the end of the bench? Maybe Antigua and IL have moved on? All I know is there was lots of buzz, a local crystal ball, looked like a done deal. Then nothing...
Two months later he is visiting a mid-major.
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What Brad Underwood and staff are doing here at Illinois is impressive!
https://x.com/theillinifn/status/1844026810557952402?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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wow that is impressive
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What Brad Underwood and staff are doing here at Illinois is impressive!
https://x.com/theillinifn/status/1844026810557952402?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
"Talent won't be the question this year." Shots fired at Underachiever!
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This could very well be a 2023-24 UCLA-like season bringing in a hodge podge of players from all over the globe and trying to get them to mesh as a unit going into a brutal slate the first two months. I sure hope not, but it’s going to be interesting to watch.
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This could very well be a 2023-24 UCLA-like season bringing in a hodge podge of players from all over the globe and trying to get them to mesh as a unit going into a brutal slate the first two months. I sure hope not, but it’s going to be interesting to watch.
You are correct except for one major difference between two....UCLA had Mick Cronin, we got Big Daddy Brad!!! Mick didn't know what to do with talent, BU does!
Cronin is on record as stating the losing record and missing the tournament were due to 2 things turnover and NIL not being a big enough BAG for players.
ILLINI don't have either of those issues, and ultimately with Campbell, Bailey, Jacquez, Clark....type players, the coaches gotta get em ready to WIN.
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December Visit, already been to the Cuse'
He does have a little Melo feel about is game in this clip. Would love the reclass and add him to 2025.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZxlh69b6To
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Ahrens back in play? Get him and the Sylla inside player....with the 2 guards already....that would be a haul imo.
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Who’s this Wagler kid?
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Who’s this Wagler kid?
https://gprivate.com/6eap1 (https://gprivate.com/6eap1)
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https://gprivate.com/6eap1 (https://gprivate.com/6eap1)
If I wanted Google's thoughts I'd have asked Google. I wanted the opinion of people here who follow recruiting.
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Guess I’ll ask Google.
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Admittedly Kegler/Lee are not going to be immediate types to help us.
That said next years recruiting class will need to have at least 3-4 slots open....if that is so, I am counting on Rilery/KJ being gone and at least 1-2 others by transfer.
Do we take all transfers again for age?
Do we take late blooming 4-5* in spring? (is there such a thing as a late blooming 5*)?
I know enjoy the year, watch the up and down play etc....but recruiting I like to follow year around if possible.
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If I wanted Google's thoughts I'd have asked Google. I wanted the opinion of people here who follow recruiting.
Strong, lengthy PG skill set but not the strongest, doesn' t play the greatest comp in high school, won't help immediately. Project a DGL kind of ascent up the roster in terms of PT.
Ranked 2nd 5 team for all of Kansas regardless of school size, Top 150 24/7 ranking.
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Mike Jones out of Chi-Prep is a solid 6'6 200 pd reclass into 2025. ASU is the biggest offer to date.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZeIXV7ULE0&t=52s
Would be interested in seeing if the staff has checked him out at least. As played up for at least the last 2-3 years, and against this team.
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This is the guy I had mentioned previously that plays with Ahern in AZ.
https://www.on3.com/news/arkansas-john-calipari-to-host-on3s-top-ranked-center-mouhamed-sylla-for-visit/
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2026 five-star Alex Constanza taking an official with us next week.
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/-ZFjOvRa8gYAAAAd/cheers-george-costanza.gif)
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2026 five-star Alex Constanza taking an official with us next week.
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/-ZFjOvRa8gYAAAAd/cheers-george-costanza.gif)
No sweat Uncle Orlando gonna go catching, he already fished...
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This kid seems to have a Malcolm Hill kind of feel to his game imo...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlYlCXD1F10
Rock you to sleep, lullaby game.
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This kid seems to have a Malcolm Hill kind of feel to his game imo...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlYlCXD1F10
Rock you to sleep, lullaby game.
Smooth operator…
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Smooth operator…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TYv2PhG89A
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Tomorrow will be a B1G outing for us....torpedo NW and Collins, and we should have a verbal by end of weekend from Constanza, especially if Riley has a strong game.
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https://gprivate.com/6eap1 (https://gprivate.com/6eap1)
That was pretty funny.
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That was pretty funny.
Big10Man could have used that tutorial
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Larry Johnson a ILLINI target previously is entering the portal from Creighton, red shirt 4 yrs remaining. 6'4" guard from Georgia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjPkcARC-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlM-zUUOwBg
Harun Zrno 6'6" shooting guard from Bosnia getting ILLINI interest as well. Better Goode version?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4QvEMM5R7c
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Supposed to be making his pick this weekend?? Antigua lead recruiter on this.
https://www.on3.com/db/spencer-ahrens-177753/
https://247sports.com/Player/spencer-ahrens-46144029/
Add him to our 2 guards/wings. He will play before them imo.
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City of Palms Day 1 - BU in to see Constanza play.
https://www.on3.com/news/city-of-palms-classic-day-1-top-performers-2/
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This kid strikes me as having some Paul Pierce type quality of play....very under control, deliberate, good shot (not as good as Pierce yet), very good flow to his game. I hope Antigua lands this kid for us. I hope he recruits some others.
https://x.com/LeagueRDY/status/1870162413590282497
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It appears we backed off some time ago.
https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1870567328649265595?t=vx4tS7wkBLNIqIE27QYxMA&s=19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFinqRM3I50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z95a-g6G-7A
#16 in your program supposed to be visiting this weekend per Piper??
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Can we please get this kid....the instagram name alone is worth it.
https://www.instagram.com/chidi_chidi_bangbang/
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Better hope we don't get this Larry Johnson, he might be worse than Gran Ma Ma....maybe even older...LOL
https://247sports.com/article/creighton-wing-larry-johnson-will-enter-the-transfer-portal-former-four-star-recruit-241712275/
Wouldn't mind the one actually transferring though. Lefty as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjPkcARC-k&t=36s
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Why care about recruiting when they will just leave after year 1
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Why care about recruiting when they will just leave after year 1
Because they all won't, failure to plan is planning to fail, which is what our program will do if not recruiting with the other B1G boys.
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https://www.on3.com/news/5-star-pg-mikel-brown-jr-a-top-10-prospect-commits-to-louisville/
Newest 5* picks Louisville after previously stating "they are one if not the best mid major" program...LOL
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Jace Butler is in the portal already....Man I hope we stay away a 2nd time around. This kid is not what we needed when he signed and then left, he is not what we need for next year either.
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LOL
https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-basketball/news-kansas-state-s-coleman-hawkins-drops-3-word-reaction-iowa-star-enters-transfer-portal-days-fran-mccaffery-firing
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LOL
https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-basketball/news-kansas-state-s-coleman-hawkins-drops-3-word-reaction-iowa-star-enters-transfer-portal-days-fran-mccaffery-firing
We don't want him.
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We don't want him.
He has not gone elsewhere. Too early to say we didn't want him anyway
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We don't want him.
The fugg we don't!! LOL
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Entire Iowa team basically transferring in portal
Freeman
Sandfort
Harding
so far.
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LOL
https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-basketball/news-kansas-state-s-coleman-hawkins-drops-3-word-reaction-iowa-star-enters-transfer-portal-days-fran-mccaffery-firing
Lol. Coleman had a bad year. Shocker.
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https://www.on3.com/news/4-star-sf-joshua-lewis-decommits-from-iowa/ previous ILLINI interest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHAySeTe3l8
We didn't make his final list, however there is some changes there as well.
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Cooper Koch in portal now also, that makes at least 4-5 players gone already.
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Isaac McNeely is entering the portal. We offered in 2020 (sounds weird right) and he is a HIGH level 3pt shooter. Upperclassman, I would suspect however he joins Devries at Indiana. If so, next year I am sure he will have a career high against us. LOL
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I would take Freeman, particularly if Ivisic is gone, but why in the world would we want anyone else off that roster.
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I would take Freeman, particularly if Ivisic is gone, but why in the world would we want anyone else off that roster.
Don't think Ivisic is gone, however, he did say yesterday that he "liked" the time he was here?? If anything he stays and his brother joins him.
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I would take Freeman, particularly if Ivisic is gone, but why in the world would we want anyone else off that roster.
You would not take Dix? We need him way more than Freeman, even IF Ivisic goes elsewhere.
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Read that Booth is in the portal. No real shocker there.
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There will be better options in the portal than Dix. Probably 10 within the next 2 weeks.
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Read that Booth is in the portal. No real shocker there.
Was he the first one in it? He’s been checked out for months.
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Swain is officially in, if Riley is leaving, take this kid ASAP!!
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I would think Swain would be headed to Texas.
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Booth apparently denying that's in the transfer portal. Story on DI is pulled down.
Kid probably should be unless he'd complacent getting recruited over.
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AJ Casey back in the portal.
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When the fuck are we tossing Humbrickhouse in the portal?
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If Hum comes back next year he better be cheap, and we better have enough good pieces that he’s getting 12-15 mins/game max. I think there’s a good chance he could have a significantly more efficient year than he did this year making the big jump up in competition and athleticism. His defense got better as the year went on. Just super streaky. If he leaves and we never hear of him again I’m ok with that too.
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If Hum comes back next year he better be cheap, and we better have enough good pieces that he’s getting 12-15 mins/game max. I think there’s a good chance he could have a significantly more efficient year than he did this year making the big jump up in competition and athleticism. His defense got better as the year went on. Just super streaky. If he leaves and we never hear of him again I’m ok with that too.
I liked when he would post up, he seemed effective at times doing that
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I liked when he would post up, he seemed effective at times doing that
This is one of those weird times when I have to really question my own memory on things like this. When I think of Ben posting up I think of this really slow reluctant backdown when he gets a mismatch, and it takes so long and is so awkward that a defender feels forced to come over and help because it’s so abundantly clear he is going to try and back this smaller guy down for 15 seconds. As soon as the double comes, he immediately senses it and does a jump pass without looking to see who is even open before he passes in the .7 seconds he has before his feet hit the ground again.
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BOGO him with Booth. Some mid-major will bite.
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BOGO him with Booth. Some mid-major will bite.
Sorry Hum, back to the G League.
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Stirtz to Iowa.
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Any chance we get Amani back? Harris is back in as well.
in the portal.
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Eliott Cadeau from UNC is in now too, he will be getting some $$$ for sure somewhere.
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Nearly forgot about this kid. Here's your typical bigger, faster, stronger story.
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/article/jason-jakstys-redshirt-season-illinois-fighting-illini-basketball-progress-247399288/?
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Hopefully he can make shots in actual games!
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Stirtz to Iowa seems like the most obvious transfer ever. Freeman to Creighton today as well. Speaking of Creighton, Pop Isaacs is back in the portal. That's a guy to pursue, at least if he's not done injury-wise.
If Ben H is back next year and he's not a ~8th/9th guy we bring in when two 4/5 guys are in foul trouble it's going to be a long season.
Possibly not good enough to play here, but NIU's best player, Quentin Jones, is in the portal. Will probably make a 2nd-half Big East or AAC school happy.
Sencire Harris is ranked as a 4-star on 247 if you want to know how messed up those rankings are.
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Nearly forgot about this kid. Here's your typical bigger, faster, stronger story.
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/article/jason-jakstys-redshirt-season-illinois-fighting-illini-basketball-progress-247399288/?
Couldn't read whole article but it said he has gained 30 lbs and Johnson said he can't push him around as easy.
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gained 30 lbs and can't push him around as easy.
Same here
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Booth now officially in the portal
(https://media.tenor.com/rF5ERf7ncqUAAAAM/oh-no-top-gear.gif)
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Apparently offered a spot next year but declined over PT and NIL. Good for him if he develops into a solid player but I don't see him on our 2-deep next year.
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Don’t want to burn bridges with an NBA GM but glad he’s not back. Colossal waste of a ride and whatever else they gave him. I do think he’s better than he showed here, not sure what was going on mentally.
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He was slow, he looked in over his head when on the court, he looked like he was the broken spoke in offense sets due to motion and speed.
He will go somewhere else and make some $$, todays game, but I would think it should be a school that plays a more deliberate offensive game. Yes a huge waste of a scholarship and glad we are freeing that one up.
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Reed Bailey would be a very good pickup if we could do it...Davidson player
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Morez Johnson is officially in the portal....Aghhhh Dammit
https://www.on3.com/news/morez-johnson-illinois-forward-plans-enter-ncaa-transfer-portal/
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Fuck why
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damn that blows
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Well we add Rez to Booth (no big deal), KJ and Riley to the PRO's and possibly Tomi (transfer-PRO), Rodgers (?).
We basically start next year with
White/Boswell (2) Freshman (neither whom will contribute) Jakstys (?), Davis (?) DGL (?), Humrichous (?). More than likely we have a team of 2 returners again and maybe Rodgers to add.
This is like a nightmare, it just keeps getting worse and worse.
Fugg Elite 8, then Field of 32, 2 different formulas to get there. What now? BU better pull some serious magic NOW. Dammit.
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On the flip side, this does clear up space to bring in Tomi’s brother
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Morez Johnson is officially in the portal....Aghhhh Dammit
https://www.on3.com/news/morez-johnson-illinois-forward-plans-enter-ncaa-transfer-portal/
Not good losing a kid who committed here when he was 16, and then when he finally gets here he has to watch Humbrickhouse throw up bricks game after game. I think Brad fumbled badly here.
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According to other "posters" 'insiders", supposedly, problems may exist with TU, TA leaving may have had to do something with this and the # out there is 2 MIL for a non shooter, rebounder expert.
Sure not all or maybe none is accurate, but if Hawkins was worth 2, Rez could make the argument, he was just as good in regards to 1 skill set as Hawkins was in several. That said, the game plan moving forward will be interesting.
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Not good losing a kid who committed here when he was 16, and then when he finally gets here he has to watch Humbrickhouse throw up bricks game after game. I think Brad fumbled badly here.
We will see when the smoke clears, my guess is we will hear a lot about what went on behind the scenes to get to this point. He was a TA recruit make no mistake, my guess is that he may have some people in his ears.
If the rumor is correct that 2 MIL was offered, and he went portalling, well BU could have played him more earlier, but no sure that still would have mattered.
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Fuck college basketball. He was loved here and was successful and just fucking bailed. Makes me hate this shit…
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Figured someone would back up the Brinks truck for him despite this being our Golden Age.
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How did college hoops go from student athletes committing to the school for just an athletic scholarship 🤣🤣 ,not the coach mind you but the school, to $2 million for a rebounder who can't stay on the floor because of fouls
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How did college hoops go from student athletes committing to the school for just an athletic scholarship 🤣🤣 ,not the coach mind you but the school, to $2 million for a rebounder who can't stay on the floor because of fouls
Good question, my guess is minimum wage changed. LOL
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They are denying it now, but this caught the insiders by surprise.
I suspect some other schools are telling him he can face up and shoot threes more; which he'll need at the next level. They might say that now, but it's not happening.
I wonder if Tim Anderson had a hand in this?
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They are denying it now, but this caught the insiders by surprise.
I suspect some other schools are telling him he can face up and shoot threes more; which he'll need at the next level. They might say that now, but it's not happening.
I wonder if Tim Anderson had a hand in this?
Oh he absolutely did. Get Tyler Underwood outta there!
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Morez is an elite shooter. He makes everything in practice. He just needs to transfer it to games. 😉
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Where am I wrong?
Morez Johnson is 6-8 / 6-9 255 with long arms, good hands, and quick leaping ability. He runs the floor well for a wide body big. His basketball skills are dunking, rebounding, blocking shocks, and setting screens. His usage is limited by fouls and defensive match ups.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnKO3hebkAAuTr9?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnKO3hhbAAA3IOb?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Well, that sucks. Sounds like half unreasonable expectations and half bad coaching/personnel management.
You can't do anything about the former but it's a gamble treating a 5-star like we did with him in the current game and in case anyone thinks this is hindsight bias, I warned specifically about Humrichous playing over him a year ago:
If Humrichous is our starting 5 it tells me both Morez and Ivisic are relative busts and that would be bad for a number of reasons. I could see Humrichous starting at the 4 if Rodgers jumps at being 6th man, but if Morez is on the bench watching a transfer from a lower half Valley team chuck 3s from his position I'm not sure why any coach would help their 5-star Mr. Basketball type guys play for Brad again.
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The "I don't want to end up like Kofi" part is wild. I understand it in terms of expanding your shot chart beyond dunks and putbacks but I mean...
Here's how Brad and his staff "failed" Kofi
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnKEGpWbEAAHu-4?format=jpg&name=medium)
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He is absolutely correct. Go somewhere where you will get some coaching instead of whatever this is.
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The "I don't want to end up like Kofi" part is wild. I understand it in terms of expanding your shot chart beyond dunks and putbacks but I mean...
Here's how Brad and his staff "failed" Kofi
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnKEGpWbEAAHu-4?format=jpg&name=medium)
He's blaming Brad and staff for Kofi not getting a shot in the League. Which is mostly baloney.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnKO3hebkAAuTr9?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnKO3hhbAAA3IOb?format=jpg&name=900x900)
so who's in charge of the offense if not Brad
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so who's in charge of the offense if not Brad
He's just a "motivator"
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so who's in charge of the offense if not Brad
His son Tyler, depending on who you ask anyway. It's coming out that several players weren't happy with him.
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His son Tyler, depending on who you ask anyway. It's coming out that several players weren't happy with him.
now that's a pretty big fuckin problem
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Keep in mind we are in the era of big payments and big promises to get players to move schools (with no sit out year)
Some of you guys would be even more unhappy if we let Morez and Ty shoot when they need to be rebounding for the guys that can (sometimes) actually shoot.
Every team in the country is dealing with this shit right now and the grass is always greener on the other side. The next team will turn you into a star.
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Tre White in the portal now. Which sucks but is less surprising than Morez.
At this point we should presume we'll have 8 scholarships open and recruit a whole rotation because our potential roster right now appears to be Rodgers, Boswell, Davis, DGL (?), Jacktys, Brandon Lee, and Keaton Wagler. Ideally need a PG, a spot-shooting SG, a wing forward who can defend, and two legit PF/C.
Dailyn Swain should do the Marcus Arnold thing where a guy has a big game against Illinois and then transfers here. I'd assume we're already calling Bryce Hopkins and Kennard Davis. There's some good PGs available. For post guys seems a bit like slim pickings. Won't happen but it'd be awesome if Tomi came back and brought his brother here for a year.
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I want this guy:
https://247sports.com/player/oscar-cluff-46137491/college-331996/
6-11 260 Aussie with a bad stache, 17/12, can pass from the post.
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I want this guy:
https://247sports.com/player/oscar-cluff-46137491/college-331996/
6-11 260 Aussie with a bad stache, 17/12, can pass from the post.
Would be a very good get, too bad the $$$ won't be big enough, and the PT will not be there behind Tomi, assuming we keep him.
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Sarr sounds like a done deal. There’s our KJ replacement…
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Sarr sounds like a done deal. There’s our KJ replacement…
Dame Sarr?
I don't know much about him but says he is shooting guard/wing.
If the tourney tells you anything, once again it is confirmed you have to have a point guard that can manage the game. It's a guard tournament.
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Dame Sarr?
I don't know much about him but says he is shooting guard/wing.
If the tourney tells you anything, once again it is confirmed you have to have a point guard that can manage the game. It's a guard tournament.
I think Boswell runs the point next year.
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Sarr would be great.
I like Boswell a lot but I'm not sure he's a starting 1 on a top 15 team.
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Sarr will not be the primary PG from what I have seen, and Boswell is very very good imo, much better than most and a starting PG that many would want to have, I am glad he is coming back. Stability with Tomi is needed.
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I agree…
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Wouldn't mind getting Kanon Catchings from BYU in for next year. Mom studied and played here...lives in Indy currently. Lot of +++ to get him here, as we once were listed as having interest.
Imagine him coming in if Riley leaves, or if Will stays, 6'9-6'9 dual creators in the offense with Boswell and Tomi. I could get excited about that, but I doubt Riley stays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiI9X01VXCQ
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Kerr Kriisa in portalling again.
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Wilhelm is back in the portal also...fear the glasses!!
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5175737/yaxel-lendeborg
Went head to head with Dain....did better overall. Would be a great get imo. Really would not mind this guy, plus B1G Z and Tomi, with Rodgers, would brighten a lot of moods around here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqTDEMdog1A
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Big Z in the portal....we gonna have the Ivisic Twin Towers next year?
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Big transfer portal day today. Maryland guys in as expected (Gillespie and Rice would be very good gets).
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Twin towers of Ivisic?
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Johnson possibly going to Fichigan?
https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/report-illinois-transfer-morez-johnson-jr-down-to-final-six-after-cutting-multiple-teams/
https://www.si.com/college/michigan/basketball/michigan-basketball-named-top-school-for-big-ten-big-man-from-rival-school-illinois
Funny thing is IF Johnson chooses Fichigan and they lose BOTH Goldin/Wolf, and he doesn't "mind banging around the basket", what does he think he will be doing for May there? Aye Aye...hope he gets to shoot those jumpers like Wolf, and not like Goldin.
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Booth official to Colorado State.
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Just a few short years ago the NCAA told us they were nothing but scholar athletes and the APR was a valuable metric.
Cardale Jones was AOTC.
"Next Monday, a federal judge will hear final arguments before deciding whether to approve the House settlement, a $2.8 billion plan that will add a new layer of change to an already unstable landscape.
If Judge Claudia Wilken approves the settlement as expected, then for the first time, schools will be allowed to share TV, ticket and other revenue to the tune of around $20.5 million per year per institution with their athletes. That will be in addition to the payments already allowed from third parties that are turning college players into millionaires."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/why-college-basketball-coaches-say-the-game-no-longer-has-the-same-appeal/ar-AA1C4tV8?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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Just a few short years ago the NCAA told us they were nothing but scholar athletes and the APR was a valuable metric.
Cardale Jones was AOTC.
"Next Monday, a federal judge will hear final arguments before deciding whether to approve the House settlement, a $2.8 billion plan that will add a new layer of change to an already unstable landscape.
If Judge Claudia Wilken approves the settlement as expected, then for the first time, schools will be allowed to share TV, ticket and other revenue to the tune of around $20.5 million per year per institution with their athletes. That will be in addition to the payments already allowed from third parties that are turning college players into millionaires."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/why-college-basketball-coaches-say-the-game-no-longer-has-the-same-appeal/ar-AA1C4tV8?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Wow
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No better time to be a college bball player amirite
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Yeah Morez to Michigan 💀
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Swain to Texas.
Tre Donaldson in the portal so we should call him. Same with Tre Holloman and Jaland Lowe from Pitt. If we want higher upside post guys that underwhelmed to date, Aaron Bradshaw and Xavier Booker are both there too.
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Swain to Texas.
Tre Donaldson in the portal so we should call him. Same with Tre Holloman and Jaland Lowe from Pitt. If we want higher upside post guys that underwhelmed to date, Aaron Bradshaw and Xavier Booker are both there too.
Don't think Tre D. gets a call from us, we all ready got a 6'ish guard who drives, gets shots and defends better in Boswell. Tre H is an upgraded Sencire with a better shot and more drive...not a need for us this coming year imo.
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Ty Rodgers staying home.
https://x.com/Ty_rodgers20/status/1907234269069496567?t=XrYJCxWZ5pombULT1Mq-Kg&s=19
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Rodgers BACK, thats huge
Ivisic get the 5 that is needed
Lendeborg get the banger, enforcer, older do everything type walking double double here
Dix-Sandfort (1) only, Sandfort feels like the one (BU complimented him before)
Sarr (european STUD) we get to play in/out on the wing and 2 guard.
Sellars (10) being mentioned a lot, for what it's worth went to USC and was rated lower than Tre White (4) , same class, in the state when they were part of the #6 ranked class for USC. Not that high on him joining us, think there will be better options.
Lets see where this goes....TY coming back is awesome, makes up for Rez jumping ship.
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DGL gone now, I hope the kid finds a great fit/system to play in.
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DGL gone now, I hope the kid finds a great fit/system to play in.
He'd be a great fit somewhere in the MVC
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Pharrel Payne back in the portal....WOULD love to have this guy at a physical 4 position for us. $$$ I am sure. Probably follow Buzz.
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Morez to Sven's team. Booth to Co St. White in the portal. DGL in the portal.
When do the incoming, instead of just the outgoing, start showing up in a "Recruiting" thread ?
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Think Humrichous may stay (IF) he gets that extra year, and knows his role is bench (shooter-inside) play, then he stays...if not, he goes into the portal.
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We are going to need 7 as of now...right?
Johnson, White, DGL, Booth all gone, KJ (pro) (Riley probably Pro), Humrichous (who knows). Kutcher gone (spot)
Tomi, Boswell, Rodgers, Davis back? Maybe not Jake, although I think he is a perfect come off the bench guy for what we need.
So....
Big Z
Dix - favored now?
Lendeborg
Rice (shooter)
Sellars (grab Hall with him-package deal??)
High hopes but hell it isn't like we don't have a LOT to offer on many different fronts.
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Kutcher is gone, in the portal as well.
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Have to say it has been working out that this program is now stuck in the cycle of "one-and-dones" where the team is overhauled each year. Tempo and others may not like it (Culture!), but it gives us something to ponder for 6 months....
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He'd be a great fit somewhere in the MVC
Good older article about DGL and loving the Utah area.
https://www.rsl.com/news/top-recruit-chases-hoop-dreams-rsl-academy
Wonder if he will look to get back into that area, Utah St. Utah area?
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hopefully he'll come to nevada
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Reporting shows Crystal ball for Dix/Sellers to the ILLINI!!!
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Reporting shows Crystal ball for Dix/Sellars to the ILLINI!!!
HUGE gets to add to this team, B1G Z next?
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Sellers have a bad back?
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We're going up against Georgetown, Cincy and Providence for a guy who sat out a year.
On3's Joe Tipton reported Saturday evening that senior transfer guard Jaylin Sellers had revealed his top four schools, which included the Illini alongside Georgetown, Cincinnati and Providence.
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Reporting shows Crystal ball for Dix/Sellars to the ILLINI!!!
https://x.com/Recruit2Illini/status/1907519079839334599?t=8ZQcq4Vk2o5Ze-yB2uwuuA&s=09
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https://youtu.be/dXRsDLZULgE
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https://youtu.be/dXRsDLZULgE
Very bouncy 2 guard wing player...plenty of high level comp to go off of. Would look really good with Boswell.
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https://x.com/Recruit2Illini/status/1907519079839334599?t=8ZQcq4Vk2o5Ze-yB2uwuuA&s=09
UI zone got the crystal ball from Ryan Evan Schroat, from Decatur.
That name rings a bell.
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Sellers would be a solid get.
Not really as bummed about DGL - this was his year to step up if he wanted and he's a skill short at this point/level. I hope he finds a spot where he can thrive.
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UI zone got the crystal ball from Ryan Evan Schroat, from Decatur.
That name rings a bell.
Convicted child abuser. Went by the name Ryan Evan to cover it up and blocked anybody who called him out for beating a kid…
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Convicted child abuser. Went by the name Ryan Evan to cover it up and blocked anybody who called him out for beating a kid…
Thanks. I remembered something about kids.
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Maybe we could rehab the Sellars kid’s back like we did with Austin Hutcherson.
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https://www.wsj.com/sports/basketball/duke-cooper-flagg-nil-collective-ncaa-tournament-final-four-196aa6b1
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Maybe we could rehab the Sellars kid’s back like we did with Austin Hutcherson.
1. Sellers. Jaylin Sellers.
2. Didn't Hutcherson's family send him to a specialist in California???
3. Sellers is ready to go as of now. Rumor that he could've possibly maybe returned late in the season but didn't want to burn his medical redshirt
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1. Sellers. Jaylin Sellers.
2. Didn't Hutcherson's family send him to a specialist in California???
3. Sellers is ready to go as of now. Rumor that he could've possibly maybe returned late in the season but didn't want to burn his medical redshirt
https://youtu.be/pUEzsCpVh4Y
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Jase Butler joins Booth at Colorado State
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Island of Misfit Illini?
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Rumor is Dix asking price sux.
Hear there is a former top shelf wing talent available for a bargain basement discount. We might have a surprise in storr.
OA working some big dudes.
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Rumor is Dix asking price sux.
Hear there is a former top shelf wing talent available for a bargain basement discount. We might have a surprise in storr.
OA working some big dudes.
Hard pass on Storr. 8 schools in 8 years. No thanks…
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Hard pass on Storr. 8 schools in 8 years. No thanks…
Tre White will be attending his 8th school in 8 years. Tre was originally committed to KU in high school. I don't see all the same hatred directed toward him.
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Tre White will be attending his 8tb school in 8 years. Tre was originally committed to KU in high school. I don't see all the same hatred directed toward him.
he might just end up back at USC
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Rumor is Dix asking price sux.
Hear there is a former top shelf wing talent available for a bargain basement discount. We might have a surprise in storr.
OA working some big dudes.
Sorry easy pass on Storr, not we need, not what we needed, not gonna fix anything, nothing left in Storr for us....please keep the $$$ ILLINI
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Rumor is Dix asking price sux.
Hear there is a former top shelf wing talent available for a bargain basement discount. We might have a surprise in storr.
OA working some big dudes.
I wouldn't mind making his AQuaintance for our (4) need.
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Serbian guy getting alot of notice...Ognjen Stankovic 6'8 guard 20 yr old signed with "Weave"
https://x.com/WEAVE
All Wright is a client, Traore from Iowa, Phillips from ASU, CamRon Fletcher and more..
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Well that sucks....Dix to Creighton. Wasn't unexpected really though, too drawn out of a process. Those never seem to work for us. LOL
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Xaivian Lee would be a very good get imo paired with Boswell.
Kentucky is after this kid as well as Lendeborg, who is the guy I would love to see work with Ty and also the Ivisic twins (?).
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Well that sucks....Dix to Creighton. Wasn't unexpected really though, too drawn out of a process. Those never seem to work for us. LOL
We didn't want him anyway
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Xaivian Lee would be a very good get imo paired with Boswell.
How do you pronounce that?
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We didn't want him anyway
Well we didn't want him coming here.
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How do you pronounce that?
X
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How do you pronounce that?
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/that
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Can we trade Ben H back to Evansville for this kid? Asking for a friend. In the portal he is ranked 25 spots higher than Tre White is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qxpYqFuZ88
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Sandfort to Nebraska, not unexpected either.
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Lendeborg Give him the biggest bag $$ that we can imo.
Ivisic less than Tomi, sell the playing/having fun together thing
Sellars/Lee get a scorer/creator for sure either one.
KJ Lewis from Arizona? Not a bad pickup either. Bully Ball 2.0?
Fill the rest of the roster with top 50-75 guys from portal, maybe another HS but I doubt it and would prefer we don't go that route anymore than we need too in the future actually.
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Xaivian Lee would be a very good get imo paired with Boswell.
Where else could he even think about going other than to play on Lou Henson Court ?
Lou Henson Mid Major All-America Team (2023-24)
Lou Henson Mid Major National Player of the Year Award Finalist (2023-24)
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Where else could he even think about going other than to play on Lou Henson Court ?
Lou Henson Mid Major All-America Team (2023-24)
Lou Henson Mid Major National Player of the Year Award Finalist (2023-24)
Like where you are going with this...
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Entire Drake team going to Iowa it seems
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Jaylin Sellers to Providence.
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Yaxel to Fichigan to join Johnson...damn that team is going to be something on the boards. dammit wanted that guy
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(https://i.ibb.co/pBt4NF3t/Screenshot-20250405-090121-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C3kV4Gnk)
https://youtu.be/J7lhMDrxEZU
#Fair
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Yaxel to Fichigan to join Johnson...damn that team is going to be something on the boards. dammit wanted that guy
Another athletic face up 4 with ball skills.
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Yaxel to Fichigan to join Johnson...damn that team is going to be something on the boards. dammit wanted that guy
I'm sure he'll end up going pro and we'll end up with the 350th ranked player in the portal in his place.
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I'm sure he'll end up going pro and we'll end up with the 350th ranked player in the portal in his place.
Good one, Sven.
We didn't want him, or the 350th, anyway.
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I'm sure he'll end up going pro and we'll end up with the 350th ranked player in the portal in his place.
You got Johnson to play the same position. /s
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You got Johnson to play the same position. /s
I am sure they are selling Rez on the fact that A) Yax will be going PRO, just a formality imo (he will), B) If Yax doesn't go PRO we are going to play you both at the same time inside/outside...no worries Rez, you still our guy, you get to still shoot the jumpers, your stock will sky rocket here.
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Best news we can get today is that B1G Z commits to join his brother.
As far as the portal, the big names are committed for the most part, some will test the NBA waters, there are still many names to commit to portal.
Wagler/Lee will not contribute anything meaningful next year imo, Jake will take some serious minutes as of now.
Looks like maybe a serious Euro off season coming up.
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Wanted us to get this guy last year...6'8 Booty Ball 2.0 with athletic ability also
https://247sports.com/player/ezra-ausar-46112061/college-324090/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0fgL3feEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REV9ayN4Mxo
Would be a good fit with our slashing/rebounding/up tempo team.
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Tre White to Kansas
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Tre White to Kansas
Not sure he will get a role like he was rumored to be looking for here with them. Good spot for both though otherwise.
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Tre White to Kansas
Hunter Dickinson couldn't talk him out of it ?
Tre had some good games here but then there were some other games. I wish he would have stayed.
When do we sign somebody ?
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Way too early as lots of schools are in a similar boat as Illinois (I think half the B1G has empty starting lineups next year) but not encouraging so far. You can't rely on getting a guy like KJ every year.
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Good news with the Ivisic brothers on board, now we gotta get to work for sure filling this thing out. There was another kid I thought from KJ neck of the Euro woods??
I wonder if he is in play, I thought he was a wing like 6'-6'/7's ish if I saw right?
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Hansberry to V-Tech
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Would love love love to get Catchings for a wing/slasher-rim runner. Aunts got ties to new UNC staffer.
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https://youtu.be/n6crDrHmrBE
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You got Johnson to play the same position. /s
They'll play together just like Vlad and Wolf.
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Mgbako or Bidunga to man the inside out as well?
Great news with the Ivisic bro's, need another PG/SF-Wing and for sure a solid #4 rebounder.
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They'll play together just like Vlad and Wolf.
Not even close to the same skill set to pull that off. IF Yaxel makes it there he will play anywhere and get away with it and his skill set. Rez wants to do that, but doesn't have the shot or the ball handling skills to pull that off.
You were very lucky to have Goldin/Wolf, won't happen again though.
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Reed Bailey to Indiana....would have been a good fit here as well. Need more a inside rebounder....hmmm didn't we used to have one of them?
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Sencire Harris off to Cincinnati
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Sencire Harris off to Cincinnati
The guy plays hard.
Shooting ? He went 6-53 this year from 3 for 11%. He got hot in conference tho going 6-28.
I think that means he was 0-25 in non-con.
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Best position might be safety
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Could be, but he might have trouble shooting the gap on a blitz.
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Would love to see if OA could snag Ian Jackson from UNC, former 5 star, from the Bronx, same school as Bernard Kouma came from.
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I'd completely forgotten about Bernard Kouma. We had a string of imported post guys who just were not cut out for high major NCAA basketball.
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NEWS: 6'9 Montenegrin big man David Mirkovic has committed to Illinois, his agent Misko Raznatovic told ESPN. The 19-year-old averages 8.8 points, 6.7 rebounds in 23 minutes in the Adriatic League. He's competing at the Nike Hoop Summit in Portland this week.
https://x.com/DraftExpress/status/1909421978059972685?t=edP66s6iDvmOlZJlYDw0wg&s=19
Skilled, versatile, non-athletic big
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NEWS: 6'9 Montenegrin big man David Mirkovic has committed to Illinois, his agent Misko Raznatovic told ESPN. The 19-year-old averages 8.8 points, 6.7 rebounds in 23 minutes in the Adriatic League. He's competing at the Nike Hoop Summit in Portland this week.
https://x.com/DraftExpress/status/1909421978059972685?t=edP66s6iDvmOlZJlYDw0wg&s=19
Skilled, versatile, non-athletic big
Hell yea, imo, more important than Dame Sarr.
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Hell yea, imo, more important than Dame Sarr.
Well we’ve hit our allotment of slow stiff white guys and that doesn’t even include the inevitable return of the great white dope (Humrichous)
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Hell yea, imo, more important than Dame Sarr.
It’s either him or Riley. Sarr won’t come if Riley is back. It’s one or the other.
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It’s either him or Riley. Sarr won’t come if Riley is back. It’s one or the other.
Was referencing the recent pickup not Riley vs Sarr.
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Other references online are calling for an uber athletic 4 to still be added, due to our Euro lack of athleticism as it appears right now for next year.
Not sure I think we need an uber one, we do need a solid old school type of 4, not another to shoot 3's.
If there was an outside chance OA can land a players such as Ian Jackson, with his skill set/Boswell/Rodgers back cutting, there will be a lot of open 3's for bigs/a shooting guard, and long rebounds as well. Boswell and Rodgers should have an abundance of layups next year.
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We may actually be better next season than this season.
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But we were Final Four good this year.
We just didn't quite make it that far. ;D ;D
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Dillon Mitchell?
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Ian Jackson is being talked not sure if we could hold onto him though.
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Papa Kante, we going after him again? We offered. LOL
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An athletic forward is a must. I still think a PG and a reliable 3 pt shooting wing are needed.
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Calvin booth fired in denver, lol
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Calvin booth fired in denver, lol
COLORADO ST HIRING?
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We could use this athleticism at the 4 spot. Maxim Logue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t41lFNAh9Y
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An athletic forward is a must. I still think a PG and a reliable 3 pt shooting wing are needed.
I agree with Carl
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Do we not recruit kids in high school anymore?
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Do we not recruit kids in high school anymore?
Not nearly often enough, however, with the NIL $$, why recruit, expend the $ on a prima donna HS throughout the process, maybe land them, and then lose them to the highest bidder?
The way of the future when building college programs will be upperclassmen, euro, then HS sprinkled in imo. Can't see it going back to the good old days of blue bloods and the "lesser" schools going to war over a HS phenom. Hell it is rumored that AJ Dymansta the stud this year going to BYU has a package deal for around 7 million??? Crazy times.
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I remember the days of being excited over Myke Henry, Mike Shaw, Egwu
THAT was college basketball
Not this stuff
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I remember the days of being excited over Myke Henry, Mike Shaw, Egwu
THAT was college basketball
Not this stuff
this is NBA lite and the NBA is a AWFUL product
I remember KNOWING exactly when the Street & Smith/Sporting News/Petersons would come out and scour the Top 100-250 +, way before Athlon/Lindy's and SLAM magazines ever showed up.
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Illinichief = Loren Tate is a match!
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An athletic forward is a must. I still think a PG and a reliable 3 pt shooting wing are needed.
Agree we are really lacking in guard play and shooters at this point.
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I remember KNOWING exactly when the Street & Smith/Sporting News/Petersons would come out and scour the Top 100-250 +, way before Athlon/Lindy's and SLAM magazines ever showed up.
yep. i use to be so into recruiting
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Illinichief = Loren Tate is a match!
Can't believe my algorithm didn't catch that match.
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Can't believe my algorithm didn't catch that match.
Well played, Loren is younger.
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Agree we are really lacking in guard play and shooters at this point.
Technically we have 5 slots open I think with Riley/KJ going, plus the increase in players available. I would think we will go 12 deep total, so 2 more 3 if Ben H doesn't return.
HEAVY lean towards long wingspanned guards with "elite" practice ability shooting...probably near 40% for sure. LOL
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I know we have time and open slots but this projected roster is overall a below average slow Wisconsin team without a true scorer, shooters, or ballhandlers.
Projected Illinois basketball lineup with the addition of David Mirkovic
https://writingillini.com/projected-illinois-basketball-lineup-with-the-addition-of-david-mirkovic (https://writingillini.com/projected-illinois-basketball-lineup-with-the-addition-of-david-mirkovic)
Boswell
Rodgers
Mirkovic
Ivisic
Ivisic
Bench
TBA, some rookies, and some warm bodies.
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The next Justin Harmon?
https://youtu.be/80wIYU_VhHA
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He has got a long list of contacts already. Not sold on this one even for the bench, which with how many are trying to get him, why take a bench role?
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I know we have time and open slots but this projected roster is overall a below average slow Wisconsin team without a true scorer, shooters, or ballhandlers.
Projected Illinois basketball lineup with the addition of David Mirkovic
https://writingillini.com/projected-illinois-basketball-lineup-with-the-addition-of-david-mirkovic (https://writingillini.com/projected-illinois-basketball-lineup-with-the-addition-of-david-mirkovic)
Boswell
Rodgers
Mirkovic
Ivisic
Ivisic
Bench
TBA, some rookies, and some warm bodies.
All true, but we have a lot of time, there will be bigger names hit. If I had the chance to get paid $$$$, I would wait as well. See where everything settles after others get paid. A team may be in dire need and overpay then.
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Johnson, Lendeborg, Mara (7'2) all going to Michigan with Cadeau.
Fichigan is loading up, Cadeau is a downgrade imo, Johnson @ the 3 position shooting jumpers from foul line extended? Mara inside so that should make Rez feel happier again, and well Yaxel hands down will do his own thing all over the court.
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Johnson, Lendeborg, Mara (7'2) all going to Michigan with Cadeau.
Fichigan is loading up, Cadeau is a downgrade imo, Johnson @ the 3 position shooting jumpers from foul line extended? Mara inside so that should make Rez feel happier again, and well Yaxel hands down will do his own thing all over the court.
This is why I wanted Juwan Howard to get a lifetime contract.
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Shout out to the NCAA. Well done !!!
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What's the latest with Riley? Any chance he foregoes the Draft to return for one more year?
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What's the latest with Riley? Any chance he foregoes the Draft to return for one more year?
Yes. There is a chance.
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Depends where he ends up in the draft projections I suppose. Love being hamstrung by these things every offseason.
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This is why I wanted Juwan Howard to get a lifetime contract.
Makes sense now.
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What's the latest with Riley? Any chance he foregoes the Draft to return for one more year?
He is projected Top 25 the last I saw...doubtful, other than from needing to bulk up. He had a really hard time getting "bodied" in college. The real men are going to treat him like the newby in jail if he don't get stronger. LOL
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He is projected Top 25 the last I saw...doubtful, other than from needing to bulk up. He had a really hard time getting "bodied" in college. The real men are going to treat him like the newby in jail if he don't get stronger. LOL
You are so fucking weird. Fuck, man.
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DRA Gibbs a Runnin Rebel now!
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You are so fucking weird. Fuck, man.
Not sure why that is so weird, especially coming from your "warped" humor as it is more often than not. LOL, Pot calling the kettle here for sure.
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Not sure why that is so weird, especially coming from your "warped" humor as it is more often than not. LOL, Pot calling the kettle here for sure.
I was referencing the newby in jail thing. That's weird. But hey, you do you. Fuckwad.
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I was referencing the newby in jail thing. That's weird. But hey, you do you. Fuckwad.
Well it's an analogy (too big a word for you?) Fuckwad?
If he doesn't get stronger he will get taken advantage of...pretty simple but I spelled it out for your obvious comprehension issues.
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DRA Gibbs a Runnin Rebel now!
?????
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Cade Tyson back in the portal, we had some interest previously, good wing, size, shooter (at least pre UNC).
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I'm sure DGL will enjoy playing in the Mountain West.
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I'm sure DGL will enjoy playing in the Mountain West.
Is there a source for this?
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Is there a source for this?
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/season/2025-basketball/transferportal/?institutionkey=24039
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Rumors on other sites that say Sarr has meeting tomorrow with BU, Lock him down possibly.
Adam Miller the lone wolf may be coming back as a bench sheep, LOL
Will Riley if any chance in hell of coming back would add to Boswell/Sarr/Riley/Rodgers/Ivisic as core along with Miller (?), Mirkovic/Humrichous/Jakstys/Ivisic ALL BIGS with exception of Miller. Still need another PG/and Wing player, then we are done imo. 12 total on the bench.
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Thought it was strictly an either/or situation with Riley and Sarr?
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Thought it was strictly an either/or situation with Riley and Sarr?
It probably is but they play different areas of the floor, Riley could come back to get stronger, doubtful, then we would want Sarr desperately imo. Dreaming B1G we get both.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/1jvef1l/2025_nike_hoop_summit_world_team_measurements/
Nike Hoop Summit shows Mirkovic @ 6'-11", 3 7'0 on the roster with Jak and Sarr listed at 6'-7.5"
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https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/1jvef1l/2025_nike_hoop_summit_world_team_measurements/
Nike Hoop Summit shows Mirkovic @ 6'-11", 3 7'0 on the roster with Jak and Sarr listed at 6'-7.5"
David Mirkovic is 6'8 255lbs
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David Mirkovic is 6'8 255lbs
YEP, I looked at Markovic, still take him and with him I think we may be good at B1GS now.
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Xavier is loading up, they will be a team to watch next year for sure.
https://247sports.com/college/xavier/season/2025-basketball/transferportal/?institutionkey=24316
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Adam Miller is looking like he may be back, and if you look at his history.... Next 2 guard in the making? Boswell backup? 3rd guard in lineup with "elite" non positional passers?
Funny thing is he came to ILLINI after visits/committed, yes he was local,
Then LSU, in which he previously visited as well. Played there.
Then ASU, in which he previously visited as well. Played there.
Visited L-Ville, and AZ, offered never played, don't think either were in play when he transferred.
Now full circle ?, back to the ILLINI??
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Adam Miller? For fuck's sake.
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Miller shot well from 3 last season.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/adam-miller-3.html
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Well, maybe he's old enough now that he can keep mommy's mouth shut.
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Bummer, but good luck kid.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/44673022/illinois-riley-projected-1st-rounder-enters-nba-draft
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golden era!
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KJ and Riley have opened the portal door to C-U. Good luck to both, for sure.
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Well, maybe he's old enough now that he can keep mommy's mouth shut.
She'd better. His NIL may well be the biggest check he ever sees.
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She'd better. His NIL may well be the biggest check he ever sees.
Yeah, she totally fucked up his career…
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Adam Miller? For fuck's sake.
I hear we are leaving his Mom's in Tempe.
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Barry Dunning Jr. would have been a very good get, Pitt got him though.
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Can we get this guy for the end of the bench fill one of the 12-15 spots on next years squad, CHANGED MY MIND, can we just get him and figure out where he slots in at?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9_sUSMfLA0
Has very similar moves as someone else we just had and loved when he was an ILLINI.
Would love to add this guy to the team. 6'9" athletic, down hill guy.
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6th year Adam Miller lmao.
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6th year Adam Miller lmao.
please tell me this isn't real
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Miller would be a good fit, but bidding has driven up his market value.
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Have serious concerns about athleticism with this roster as it currently exists. Miller doesn’t help much with that but he is a good shooter in P4 league and can play good defense. Also brings experience and familiarity with coaches. Probably a good add if he doesn’t impact who else you bring in/hit the bottom line too hard. If he’s a take though it is really going to underscore the need for a couple of athletes on the wing.
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Best of luck to KJ and Will
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still plenty of time to find some players
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fiz05hed7z0ve1.jpeg
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AJ Storr to Ole Miss
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AJ Storr to Ole Miss
thank goodness
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Other boards are discussing Monsanto being in portal again, I lump him into the AJ Storr category, don't want him here, we can do better than that imo.
Sean Durugordon on the other hand 6'7" started at Mizzou and shoots 31% from 3, has shot higher % and is an athlete. 16 and 9 at ODU.
Oh yea he is a Queens native as well. OA where you at?
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Baylor allegedly offered Adam Miller 1.5 million.
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Baylor allegedly offered Adam Miller 1.5 million.
Then let Baylor have him.
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I don’t think Dame Sarr is coming here
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Then let Baylor have him.
Wow, never thought we would agree on anything really, but yes let Baylor have him at that price.
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Dain Dainja Zone and PJ Haggerty both in the portal now.
Stojakovic, would be huge for us on the wing
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Wow, never thought we would agree on anything really, but yes let Baylor have him at that price.
Why wouldn't we agree on anything? I mean, just because I think you're a weirdo doesn't mean I don't agree with you on some shit.
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Why wouldn't we agree on anything? I mean, just because I think you're a weirdo doesn't mean I don't agree with you on some shit.
I guess we can agree on some shit then.
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still plenty of time to find some players
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fiz05hed7z0ve1.jpeg
This is interesting. Over 2000 players and counting in portal. Assuming there were 4000 plus players on rosters and some portion graduated or are out of eligibility that means maybe 60-70% of roster turnover on average minimum.
I have said college basketball is now one big AAU circuit anymore where kids switch teams constantly and the quality of basketball shows.
Roll the balls out, whoever pays the most gets the players and coaching influence and player and team development is generally a joke.
I only paid casual interest in this past season. It will be a rare program that will have any real culture or cohesion moving forward.
It's entertaining at times but overall boring shitty basketball.
I know a lot of you hate the NBA but they have guys on contracts and some continuity and the level of play is the best in the world.
College programs will need contracts for the players also to improve the quality otherwise it will be AAU summer league for most programs.
The present Illinois staff is able to get their share of players but has not demonstrated any real ability to establish a culture or successful system of sum greater than the parts or roster stability above anyone else.
We have the money and will get enough talent to be in top 25-40 each year it appears.
I guess it could be worse.
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Stojakovic, Miller and a player to be named later before end of weekend?
Still kind of meh on Miller other than the experience level...not sure we can't do better, but if he wants to come back in a specific role? Wilcher from St. Johns is in the portal now as well (Roselle Catholic kid), 4* or better also.
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Stojakovic/Aberdeen would be a great great combo to pick up. These 2 with Boswell would make our backcourt as good if not better than our front court with a player yet to come along. Cade Tyson would not be a bad add at all...think the guy was hampered at UNC and didn't fit that team at all.
Aberdeen is a straight baller, proven, and size wise along the lines of Ayo.
https://247sports.com/player/denzel-aberdeen-46117562/college-286091/
Previously offered by us as well.
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This is interesting. Over 2000 players and counting in portal. Assuming there were 4000 plus players on rosters and some portion graduated or are out of eligibility that means maybe 60-70% of roster turnover on average minimum.
I have said college basketball is now one big AAU circuit anymore where kids switch teams constantly and the quality of basketball shows.
Roll the balls out, whoever pays the most gets the players and coaching influence and player and team development is generally a joke.
I only paid casual interest in this past season. It will be a rare program that will have any real culture or cohesion moving forward.
It's entertaining at times but overall boring shitty basketball.
I know a lot of you hate the NBA but they have guys on contracts and some continuity and the level of play is the best in the world.
College programs will need contracts for the players also to improve the quality otherwise it will be AAU summer league for most programs.
The present Illinois staff is able to get their share of players but has not demonstrated any real ability to establish a culture or successful system of sum greater than the parts or roster stability above anyone else.
We have the money and will get enough talent to be in top 25-40 each year it appears.
I guess it could be worse.
Yeah I agree it sucks, can't really get invested in any players we recruit anymore and watch them develop except for the rare bench players it seems.
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A bidding war for Adam Miller. GMAFB.
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A bidding war for Adam Miller. GMAFB.
I think BU may be pulling the plug on this one, it may have been a feel good story, but unless Ace takes less $$$, I don't see this one happening. Honestly with the injury and his age, and the fact he will NOT play PRO ball in the US...take the brinks truck now Miller. The ILLINI have just as good if not better options, Stoyakovic is the start.
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Getting Miller would supposedly give them the inside track on Devin Cleveland, the #1 in-state prospect in 2027.
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Allegedly, Andrej wants $3mil...🙃
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Someone said Dame Sarr will cost 7 million
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Soon there will be two year contracts that guarantee 20M if you stay two seasons. Imagine 3 for 30.
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Andrej Stoyakovic isn't visiting until tomorrow, so I would think no roster additions would happen until at least tomorrow late or Weds with him, after that a SG and a traditional PF type to finish the roster out for next year.
https://www.on3.com/news/california-guard-andrej-stojakovic-to-visit-illinois-on-tuesday/
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Jayden Epps in the portal. Hahaha.
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Jayden Epps in the portal. Hahaha.
Texas A/M, hear they need some players....LOL,
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Epps will get a fair amount of interest, just not here.
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Adam Miller should pay Illinois to come back here.
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I would gladly take Stoyakovic, Zeke Mayo, and a true athletic PF/C type and call it good for next year.
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Adam Miller should pay Illinois to come back here.
Haha
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I know it’s still early technically because we got our two biggest gets of the offseason last summer, but I’d sure feel a lot better if we got a difference maker/momentum soon.
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I know it’s still early technically because we got our two biggest gets of the offseason last summer, but I’d sure feel a lot better if we got a difference maker/momentum soon.
Agreed, so called insiders claim this week is the turning point? We'll see, if Stoyakovic goes on more visits, we are out on that. I don't think UCONN will play a part, I cannot imagine the family wanting to subject their kid around that sour puss everyday...LOL
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Mihailo Petrovic our newest Guard addition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgtFBjHYCx4
Being reported now!!
PG Mihailo Petrovic has committed to Illinois, agent Misko Raznatovic told ESPN. The 22-year-old Serbian is an MVP candidate in the Adriatic League, ranking second in assists (7.3 per game) and top-10 in scoring (14.3 ppg), this pickup is HUGE for us!!!
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Ivisic 1
Ivisic 2
Petrovic
Mirkovic
Stoyakovic (?)
ILLINI might have some problems....but the VIC's ain't one of them!!
Finally the ILLINI are going all in on the Euro's, they bring experience, talent, and quite frankly the staff is doing WAY better than Tommy Lloyd ever did at Gonzaga. The Zags may have led in the early stages of getting talent, but man it seems our ILLINI have perfected it!!
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Mihailo Petrovic our newest Guard addition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgtFBjHYCx4
Being reported now!!
PG Mihailo Petrovic has committed to Illinois, agent Misko Raznatovic told ESPN. The 22-year-old Serbian is an MVP candidate in the Adriatic League, ranking second in assists (7.3 per game) and top-10 in scoring (14.3 ppg), this pickup is HUGE for us!!!
Basically a 22 year old pro. What even is college basketball....
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Basically a 22 year old pro. What even is college basketball....
That's what I was thinking lol wtf
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Basically a 22 year old pro. What even is college basketball....
Rewrite the rules or use the system to our advantage I say.
How many years have all lamented about the blue bloods, the money under the table, the NCAA not penalizing others to the same extent as say another school?
Well the tide has turned, and until it goes back out....the $$$ ain't leaving and the scope of rules can be skirted...good job ILLINI for finally being ahead of everyone else it seems!!
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They haven't played a game yet.
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That’s out of left field. We will be the whitest and least athletic team in the big
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Vlad Underwood
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Ivisic 1
Ivisic 2
Petrovic
Mirkovic
Stoyakovic (?)
ILLINI might have some problems....but the VIC's ain't one of them!!
Finally the ILLINI are going all in on the Euro's, they bring experience, talent, and quite frankly the staff is doing WAY better than Tommy Lloyd ever did at Gonzaga. The Zags may have led in the early stages of getting talent, but man it seems our ILLINI have perfected it!!
Let us know when we get to nine straight S16's.
This team has some decent skill it appears but lacks shooters and athleticism at this point. Stoyakovic will not change the equation much.
We will need to play half court execution and possession ball but this staff doesn't know how to do that.
If they try and run and take 35 threes a game again it will be Groundhog Day, except worse D and rebounding. They are going to have to play Rodgers big minutes.
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We'll likely be a tourney team. 50/50 we make sweet sixteen and 10% chance beyond that. Groundhog Day.
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Still slots to fill. Really need to get the right guys to round this thing out.
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Let us know when we get to nine straight S16's.
This team has some decent skill it appears but lacks shooters and athleticism at this point. Stoyakovic will not change the equation much.
We will need to play half court execution and possession ball but this staff doesn't know how to do that.
If they try and run and take 35 threes a game again it will be Groundhog Day, except worse D and rebounding. They are going to have to play Rodgers big minutes.
We may have the best shooting frontcourt in the sport next year.
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Plus there's no way we can be a worse shooting team than this year. So I don't mind the influx of white guys, assuming they shoot better than the one tall slow white dude we had last season.
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Rewrite the rules or use the system to our advantage I say.
How many years have all lamented about the blue bloods, the money under the table, the NCAA not penalizing others to the same extent as say another school?
Well the tide has turned, and until it goes back out....the $$$ ain't leaving and the scope of rules can be skirted...good job ILLINI for finally being ahead of everyone else it seems!!
it just gets boring when I never know who the players are from year to year. Not being on campus, and with a family and a job, I have other things to do. But when Dee Brown plays 4 years, I can turn on the tube in the first month and recognize most of the team. Which is more enjoyable.
If I wanted to watch the NBA, I live in the Bay Area and we have 4 titles in the past decade. At least Steph Curry and Draymond have been there forever. Like - I could give 2 fucks about the NBA but I know more players on the Dubs than I knew on the Illini when the year started.
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Plus there's no way we can be a worse shooting team than this year. So I don't mind the influx of white guys, assuming they shoot better than the one tall slow white dude we had last season.
And now that one tall slow white dude has reproduced...
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And now that one tall slow white dude has reproduced...
Like Michael Keaton in Multiplicity
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Plus there's no way we can be a worse shooting team than this year. So I don't mind the influx of white guys, assuming they shoot better than the one tall slow white dude we had last season.
The twins will be our best three point shooters as they are slightly above average. None of Boswell, Petrovic, or Rodgers (or even Stoyavic if we get him) shoot above the standard benchmark 33% from three.
If you are good with going 11-34 most nights then ok.
That's a lot of empty possessions.
We need a true three point guy and a long athletic small forward. Preferably in one human being.
This Mrkovic kid better be a bench guy or we will look like the fucking Washington Generals, and it is well known I consider Rodgers an 7/8 guy in any P6 rotation.
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We're going to rebound a decent percentage of our missed shots.
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Boz and Stojakovic are really good at getting to the rim and the twins and Mirk will help with that I’d think. Boz just turned 20 and there’s no reason to think some of these guys won’t have incremental improvement from their younger seasons. We are getting older which is good. But still like LK said we have glaring deficiencies that have to be addressed with the next adds in order to have a team on paper that looks like a second weekend team.
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We're going to rebound a decent percentage of our missed shots.
Probably more than this past year. Hope there are fewer misses to rebound. But can’t deny it’s part of the strategy. Agree looking at pure percentage of 3s made is silly when we rebound them at a high rate and convert 40 some percent of those rebounds to points.
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Hopefully they can at least make Free Shots, if they get fouled.
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Boz and Stojakovic are really good at getting to the rim and the twins and Mirk will help with that I’d think. Boz just turned 20 and there’s no reason to think some of these guys won’t have incremental improvement from their younger seasons. We are getting older which is good. But still like LK said we have glaring deficiencies that have to be addressed with the next adds in order to have a team on paper that looks like a second weekend team.
We are going to look like the old school Celtics (but with outside 7') as far as cutting, backdoor, passing, etc. general style of play. We won't be flashy, we will score a lot, we will get our long rebounds off of long misses. 1-2 athletes wouldn't hurt, but I would take Stoyakovic and a player like Claude or similar since we have the other guard to Boswell now.
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Hopefully they can at least make Free Shots, if they get fouled.
The 2025-26 University of Illinois Fighting Euro Commies
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The 2025-26 University of Illinois Fighting Euro Commies
Taking the jobs of lazy Americans, apparently.
Underachiever will need to learn another language to yell in.
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Taking the jobs of lazy Americans, apparently.
Underachiever will need to learn another language to yell in.
Going to have to get several AI licenses to enable simultaneous translations of the yelling through the bullhorn, which is probably good for Murph. Please donate to our NIL collective!
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That’s out of left field. We will be the whitest and least athletic team in the big
white doesn't mean non athletic...
and who knows, maybe they can shoot too and know how to ball
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white doesn't mean non athletic...
and who knows, maybe they can shoot too and know how to ball
The historical numbers on this group of players would indicate they once again will be one of the worst three point shooting teams in country. I don't care what color they are if they can play and shoot.
The issue is compounded by the insistence of apparently letting Junior design the offense schemes. If they can adapt to what they have rather than try to do shit they can't we could be ok.
This staff has rarely figured this out.
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white doesn't mean non athletic...
and who knows, maybe they can shoot too and know how to ball
Tom Chambers was known to be very athletic, Bird was not known to be that, but had moments.
The stereotypes are wrong both ways:
McClung just what 3 peated on the NBA dunk contest, (not even in the league at the time), and yet many have uttered WTF that boy can jump for a white kid.
Jordan, Russell, Archibald, Magic, etc all were considered very intelligent (in fact Jordan was a math major until JR year in college) hell no on that one for me.
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I agree that white doesn’t mean unathletic, I meant that these particular guys are both white, and unathletic. They’re not plodders per se, but I don’t know if we have a single guy that anyone would describe as truly athletic. Ty, maybe? Not trying to be a downer, just trying to draw parallels between the Final 4 teams from a few weeks ago and this coming year’s team and I don’t see any. Not that I want to look like a Houston team.
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I agree that white doesn’t mean unathletic, I meant that these particular guys are both white, and unathletic. They’re not plodders per se, but I don’t know if we have a single guy that anyone would describe as truly athletic. Ty, maybe? Not trying to be a downer, just trying to draw parallels between the Final 4 teams from a few weeks ago and this coming year’s team and I don’t see any. Not that I want to look like a Houston team.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sMVfj1Pg/2d3.gif) (https://postimg.cc/sMVfj1Pg)
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Well we needed a PG and we got a 3rd year pro who's probably either going to be all-conference or unplayable. Desperately need guy who can hit 3s and an athletic forward.
Petrovic, Boswell, Rodgers, Ivisic, Ivisic is a very good lineup to finish sixth in the B1G wearing Nebraska or Wisconsin jerseys.
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🤣
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Stoyakovic tomorrow???.....Watkins + 1 to follow?
To the VICtors go the spoils...
VICtorious, VICious, ILLINI got problems, the VIC'S ain't one of them...let it began...LOL
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Stoyakovic today.....Fland/Watkins to follow?
Should be a B1G finale for us to finalize out roster buildout.
VICtorious, VICious, ILLINI got problems, the VIC'S ain't one of them...let it began...LOL
Victor Singleton says hello on the football side. But he’s a bitch, so 🤷🏻♂️
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So if stojakic chooses unc then what
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So if stojakic chooses unc then what
Need a top-notch MVC transfer to come in and light it up for us. Duh…
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Need a top-notch MVC transfer to come in and light it up for us. Duh…
Ouch. ;D
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Keep an eye on Iowa next year. Bennett Stirtz is fucking legit. Way better than the Brock Harding bullshit that Fran was recruiting.
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After all the anxiety and panic attacks on Loyalty, Stojakovic has finally committed to the Beloved!
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The Vic's gonna be rolling, and according to a couple of "insiders" at Loyalty (been right so far this off season), another add will happen, Ben is back as well.
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Good deal.
We didn't want another MVC sharpshooter anyway.,
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Good deal.
We didn't want another MVC sharpshooter anyway.,
Ben might go from a lotta minutes starter to the 7/8/9th guy in terms of play time.
I think it's officially time to hand the mantle of best Euro recruiting school title to Illinois over Gonzaga as well.
If that's the case, Few won't be around long either.
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Ben might go from a lotta minutes starter to the 7/8/9th guy in terms of play time.
I think it's officially time to hand the mantle of best Euro recruiting school title to Illinois over Gonzaga as well.
If that's the case, Few won't be around long either.
LMAO wake me up when we make 9 sweet 16s on a row buddy
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I stated Euro recruiting, not what the coaches do with the talent. It is fairly obvious however that G.A. gets it. He and the staff are behind the Zags in this area (Tommy Lloyd moved on) and now Few is having issues.
Few has done far more with the Euro's, but has had many more years of doing it, NOW though the ILLINI are doing exactly what they should have been doing imo several years ago. I am not sure ANY program should recruit H.S. players anymore with today's $$$, NIL, Collective and the ability for any player to move on when they want to. Stick to Euro's the portal and start winning!!
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The 2025-26 University of Illinois Fighting Euro Commies
Chief Illinivic
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Bradislav Underwoodivic is cooking
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Keep an eye on Iowa next year. Bennett Stirtz is fucking legit. Way better than the Brock Harding bullshit that Fran was recruiting.
Stirtz will be best PG in Big next year and it will not even be close.
Iowa is going to be difficult system to deal with. McCollum can coach.
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Bradislav Underwoodivic is cooking
https://old.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1ka260j/brad_underwood_new_profile_picture/
lmao
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Good day today. Should be able to be very selective on rounding out the roster and have some time to do so.
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Stojakovic is a great get. Worst thing I see is 31% from 3 and knowing it's not going to stop the bombs-away strategy.
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Probably will be bombs away, but I think having bigs that can spread the floor are the biggest part of why he’s coming here. His whole thing is getting to the basket and having multiple bigs that bring big defenders out of the lane will be good for his game.
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Coward to Duke.
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2 spots left open? 1 Bradslovic will hold open more than likely. Wing/Guard player still needed? Luka Bogavac. I know he has a letter off, but he is a pretty good plan if Riley doesn't come back and he isn't going too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgQS1uuVK4s&t=51s
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Do we still recruit HS kids?
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Do we still recruit HS kids?
You probably do. Right?
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High School: Ty Rodgers, Jason Jakstys, Brandon Lee, Keaton Wagler
Portal: Kylan Boswell, Ben Humrichous, Jake Davis, Zvonimir Ivisic, Andrej Stojakovic
Foreign: Tomislav Ivisic, Mihailo Petrovic, David Mirkovic,
Walkon: AJ Redd
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D1 College is basically a pro league now but no salary caps, no player contracts, and drastic inequality of $ resources across the 361 programs.
The top incoming HS players are getting paid well. The rest are getting token money and hoping to work their way into some money or jump to a richer program.
A lot of kids still just want to play D1 and are happy to be on a roster, play, and get a degree. They do still give scholarships at D1.
Its basically an openly paid AAU circuit and the level of basketball is not good IMO. Puts more of the onus on a coachign staff to create cohesion and a team that makes the pieces work in the chaos.
Illinois is bringing in good, but not great talent and the staff is simply average at best. I think we will be treading water in the Top 20-40 range unless they improve the staff.
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D1 College is basically a pro league now but no salary caps, no player contracts, and drastic inequality of $ resources across the 361 programs.
The top incoming HS players are getting paid well. The rest are getting token money and hoping to work their way into some money or jump to a richer program.
A lot of kids still just want to play D1 and are happy to be on a roster, play, and get a degree. They do still give scholarships at D1.
Of course programs want to win now and look to the portal and foreign influx for talent that can play now if they can't get a Top 50 HS kids.
It's basically an openly paid AAU circuit and the level of basketball is not good IMO. Puts more of the onus on a coachign staff to create cohesion and a team that makes the pieces work in the chaos.
Illinois is bringing in good, but not great talent and the staff is simply average at best. I think we will be treading water in the Top 20-40 range unless they improve the staff.
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It actually read better the second time I read it.
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D1 College is basically a pro league now but no salary caps, no player contracts, and drastic inequality of $ resources across the 361 programs.
The top incoming HS players are getting paid well. The rest are getting token money and hoping to work their way into some money or jump to a richer program.
A lot of kids still just want to play D1 and are happy to be on a roster, play, and get a degree. They do still give scholarships at D1.
Of course programs want to win now and look to the portal and foreign influx for talent that can play now if they can't get a Top 50 HS kids.
It's basically an openly paid AAU circuit and the level of basketball is not good IMO. Puts more of the onus on a coachign staff to create cohesion and a team that makes the pieces work in the chaos.
Illinois is bringing in good, but not great talent and the staff is simply average at best. I think we will be treading water in the Top 20-40 range unless they improve the staff.
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Well said.
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;D
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Some buzz around the program that Riley might withdraw from NBA draft and be back. Final deadline isn’t until June 15th at 4pm CST…
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Some buzz around the program that Riley might withdraw from NBA draft and be back. Final deadline isn’t until June 15th at 4pm CST…
That would give us a long athletic wing scorer that we badly need.
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Some buzz around the program that Riley might withdraw from NBA draft and be back. Final deadline isn’t until June 15th at 4pm CST…
That would be the best news this team could get. With Riley we go from Sweet 16 material to EE/FF. Dude keeps getting better and one more year here will put him into the top ten in the next year's draft.
Fingers crossed.
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nm
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Yeah if somehow we make it happen to get Riley back, we are most likely looking at a top 5-10 roster. Don’t forget to donate early and often to your NIL collective!
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Stoyakovic video if you haven't seen it. Good info on portal and recruiting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IYoUIAfznQ
ILLINI should send this to every single recruit moving forward, speaks volumes, coming from a kid of his caliber imo.
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45533065/college-basketball-nba-draft-development-pipeline
This speaks to our program, culture and believe it or not Hamer is mentioned....Aye Aye
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Maybe the staff should look at this kid....the name works out just fine. 2027
https://247sports.com/player/nicolas-mitrovic-46159677/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07IBVx7FOiw&t=58s
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Wow, big news for this season…
https://x.com/draftexpress/status/2000675344529997900?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Wow, big news for this season…
https://x.com/draftexpress/status/2000675344529997900?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTyuKY07ZGw
Lets hope he has improved GREATLY.
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Not sure how I feel about this. Was really hoping Judy’s post was something about Ty Rodgers being healthy and coming back as the second coming of Draymond Green
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Should have beaten Nebraska instead.
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https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/article/new-jacks-get-to-know-2028-combo-guard-brady-pettigrew-266571060/
ILLINI all in on him....6 straight weeks at open gym. Feel the love young fella!!!
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Not sure how I feel about this. Was really hoping Judy’s post was something about Ty Rodgers being healthy and coming back as the second coming of Draymond Green
The same agent as Tomi, Z, Mirko, Petro. This will evidently help with another Balkan prospect.
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The latest is Bilic will practice with the team and work on strength training, but won't play in games this season. He is 20 years old, from Croatia. No word on future eligibility.
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Well that changed quickly
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Well that changed quickly
He was never gonna play this year....the kid is built like a paperclip.
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He was never gonna play this year....the kid is built like a paperclip.
So is his mom.
Pouring one out for Jobu stealing Illinikvn's bit.
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So is his mom.
Pouring one out for Jobu stealing Illinikvn's bit.
You meant to say she was.....then he came along.
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Christian Collins
https://www.si.com/college/kentucky/recruiting/kentucky-top-2026-target-christian-collins-has-reopened-recruitment
https://247sports.com/player/christian-collins-46142603/
Re-Opened and major will be business....ILINI in the mix now with offer! This kid would be a very good piece to add to the program with Wagler, The VICS, etc...and well we align with pretty much ALL of what is Mother is looking for as well.
Several stories about the kid, his determination and want to play/get better....could be ideal fit for us.
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Christian Collins
https://www.si.com/college/kentucky/recruiting/kentucky-top-2026-target-christian-collins-has-reopened-recruitment
https://247sports.com/player/christian-collins-46142603/
Re-Opened and major will be business....ILINI in the mix now with offer! This kid would be a very good piece to add to the program with Wagler, The VICS, etc...and well we align with pretty much ALL of what is Mother is looking for as well.
Several stories about the kid, his determination and want to play/get better....could be ideal fit for us.
Would be a great get!
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Would love to get these two as a package deal....6'6-6'5 both have offers already, and then throw in say Jaxson Davis to facilitate and Quinton Kitt already committed to us. That would be one hell of a in state class for us, and both Martin 27/Kelly 28 want to continue to play together.
28
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/article/mason-martin-illinois-fighting-illini-basketball-recruiting-neuqua-valley-266489926/
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If the way Wagler is playing, AND the way the ILLINI have given him the keys with all of the Euro experience factored in, is not a recruiting tool I don't what is.
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Watch the sleepers recap of our game with Missouri. Some really incredible insight on just how special Wagler has been as a true freshman. Don’t take him for granted.
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I was impressed with Wagler early.
If he would have been on the team with Matthew Mayer he may have punched Mayer instead of Mayer punching Epps, or whomever it was.
And we'd have been a better team. Lol
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NEWS: James Nnaji, the No. 31 pick in the 2023 NBA draft, has enrolled at Baylor, agents Gerard Raventos and Deirunas Visockas of Gersh Sports told DraftExpress.
A monumental development: a former NBA draft pick is immediately eligible to play college basketball this season.
https://x.com/i/status/2003904709397192922
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NEWS: James Nnaji, the No. 31 pick in the 2023 NBA draft, has enrolled at Baylor, agents Gerard Raventos and Deirunas Visockas of Gersh Sports told DraftExpress.
A monumental development: a former NBA draft pick is immediately eligible to play college basketball this season.
https://x.com/i/status/2003904709397192922
Maybe we can get Kofi back for the 2nd semester. He has eligibility left and never signed an NBA contract either…
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Maybe we can get Kofi back for the 2nd semester. He has eligibility left and never signed an NBA contract either…
Bingo!
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Bingo!
Or Giorgi…
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lol this is just insanity
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Lincoln Williams/EJ Hazelett from Kankakee, 6'5-6'7 duo ....Williams been offered, but that ship probably sailed with our commitments so far?
Interesting duo none the less.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/high-school-basketball/2025/11/13/kankakee-high-school-basketball-lincoln-williams
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We need more guys from the K Thrilla
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Next to come, the Asian bloc 😂
https://x.com/joetipton/status/2008951038758310303?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Next to come, the Asian bloc 😂
https://x.com/joetipton/status/2008951038758310303?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Tempo posted a reply with a mult he hasn't used here yet.
Lol
Night Ryder
@LegendaryMndset
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Jan 7
If you have 2 black parents - Illinois is no longer looking to recruit you.
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Tempo posted a reply with a mult he hasn't used here yet.
Lol
Night Ryder
@LegendaryMndset
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Jan 7
If you have 2 black parents - Illinois is no longer looking to recruit you.
Damn. Mn is fully switched on this week!
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Mason Martin is the newest commit. Elite sniper. Maybe another Keaton Wagler 🤔
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Mason Martin is the newest commit. Elite sniper. Maybe another Keaton Wagler 🤔
I could see Martin more as a better all around shooter than say Humrichous, far more accurate at age. With Kitt joining (more of a Stoyakovic type) 6'5 and 6'6-7" types are nice to have on board already. Get Martin to get Kelly to grad early and join up at 6'6 as well....those 3 would bring alot to the table.
By the time Martin gets here, maybe a little taller, built up a little....the kid can shoot it.
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Thanks for the update Chief
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YW, here is a good article about Wagler, his importance, his game for us.
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/keaton-wagler-not-even-supposed-to
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Imagine, Kitt 6'7", Martin 6'6", Kelly 6'6" (grad early and commit) and Pettigrew 6'2" (grad early and commit) all coming in to ILLINOIS...that would be some serious home grown talent for us.....and dare I say above average nationally ranked talent as well?
Talk about some interchangeable position players. Kelly btw plays club ball with Jakstys younger brother Joey (6'8").
https://chicago.suntimes.com/high-school-basketball/2026/01/24/neuqua-valley-basketball-cole-kelly-mason-martin-bolingbrook
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Lookie Lookie who is listed here....
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/47738478/mens-college-basketball-player-rankings-midseason-2025-2026
Great recognition for KW.
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Losses at year end for sure or "probably" Wagler, Boswell, Humrichous, out of the "Vics" I think Stoyakovic is the most likely to jump ship, but in the end we keep them all (Tomi/Z would have to have MONSTER Ncaa Tourneys to have any pro offers).
2026-27 Rodgers finally comes back to join 6'7" Stoyakovic, 7' Twins, and 6'9 Mirk along with the 3 below and probably 1-2 Transfers in. We would still be loaded.
2026 Class so far with 6'7 Morillo, 6'4 Brown, 6'8 Davis (this kid is the sleeper by year 3-4 imo)
2027 Class so far with 6'5 Martin, 6'6 Kitt, 6'0 lead guard (Jaxson Davis) we should land him, and get 6'8 Kelly to reclass from Nequa Valley and join Martin.
We are still looking really good the next few years.....I would suspect Jax D. to be our layup stopper btw.
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Would love to get Jaxson Davis and with his classmate Aaron Stewart coming next year to wrestle and play football (top RB in state) maybe that helps get him.
But I doubt it.
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Would love to get Jaxson Davis and with his classmate Aaron Stewart
I'm sure you would
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Losses at year end for sure or "probably" Wagler, Boswell, Humrichous, out of the "Vics" I think Stoyakovic is the most likely to jump ship, but in the end we keep them all (Tomi/Z would have to have MONSTER Ncaa Tourneys to have any pro offers).
2026-27 Rodgers finally comes back to join 6'7" Stoyakovic, 7' Twins, and 6'9 Mirk along with the 3 below and probably 1-2 Transfers in. We would still be loaded.
2026 Class so far with 6'7 Morillo, 6'4 Brown, 6'8 Davis (this kid is the sleeper by year 3-4 imo)
2027 Class so far with 6'5 Martin, 6'6 Kitt, 6'0 lead guard (Jaxson Davis) we should land him, and get 6'8 Kelly to reclass from Nequa Valley and join Martin.
We are still looking really good the next few years.....I would suspect Jax D. to be our layup stopper btw.
Nil can change that
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Nil can change that
Most certainly, I do think there is a chance Andrej jumps, not sure about the others Z already did so I would think he would stay which means Tomi does if the bag amount is right. Mirk, who knows there....The Vics might all collude to keep him here as well.
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Why would Petrovic stay?
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Why would Petrovic stay?
Good Question, but I would think that Brad could get him to run the offense so much better....and if not, well, that could be one of those transfer spots.
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Kitt (Commit) vs Williams (offer) Indiana State is getting a good player in Hazelett.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBuDJu00IPc
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Commit Lucas Morillo had 17/15/5 in a 20 point win last night in the prep national championship
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Commit Lucas Morillo had 17/15/5 in a 20 point win last night in the prep national championship
Maybe this can be Nichi's new Moretti
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Maybe this can be Nichi's new Moretti
Same number of letters....easy one for him, let's hope he has more game.
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Commit Lucas Morillo had 17/15/5 in a 20 point win last night in the prep national championship
Noice !! Getting players who win championships. 👏👏👏👏
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No call on Stoj getting mugged on one end and then calling a shooting foul on him at the other end for a bump on a drive was interesting
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No call on Stoj getting mugged on one end and then calling a shooting foul on him at the other end for a bump on a drive was interesting
Even more interesting is that you posted this in the recruiting thread
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Even more interesting is that you posted this in the recruiting thread
Well he was once recruited by us....LOL
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We gotta get this guy right?
https://www.on3.com/rivals/will-underwood-237456/
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If Brad Underwood is 6'4", then our latest on campus recruit is easily Keaton Wagler size.....2.0 bout to happen?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HExpAxKXsAAshZ5?format=jpg&name=large
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Congrats to the staff for recruiting the kid that nobody else wanted. 👏👏👏
Congrats Keaton. 👏👏👏
(https://i.ibb.co/gL8gpxNg/Screenshot-20260402-090723-CBS-Sports.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W4XKwLZK)
(https://i.ibb.co/j9By3r5r/Screenshot-20260402-091355-CBS-Sports.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gbHStR7R)
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Congrats to the staff for recruiting the kid that nobody else wanted. 👏👏👏
Congrats Keaton. 👏👏👏
(https://i.ibb.co/gL8gpxNg/Screenshot-20260402-090723-CBS-Sports.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W4XKwLZK)
(https://i.ibb.co/j9By3r5r/Screenshot-20260402-091355-CBS-Sports.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gbHStR7R)
Fake news. He had an offer from… Minnesota
Then again Minnesota is a bunch of nobodies so there’s that
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We got our NEXT Keaton...........hell yes this kid whiffed on us the first time....not this time!!! HELL YES ILLINI!!!! Stoked about this kid. Comp to Labaron Philon is a really good one, and we all should be excited about this kid!
https://x.com/JWerner247/status/2040082292593324112
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HE_UCLhWkAArbZY?format=jpg&name=small
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/article/quentin-coleman-commits-to-illinois-fighting-illini-basketball-recruiting-principia-st-louis-279642510/
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getting a #32 overall ranked guard is good. keep up the good work staff
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How fucking true lol
(https://i.postimg.cc/mZH6dtyg/Screenshot-2026-04-04-164213.png)
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I won’t argue Weber’s recruiting sucked, but I’m not sure that claim is accurate.
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There are ways to look it up
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There are ways to look it up
I don’t have to.
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How fucking true lol
(https://i.postimg.cc/mZH6dtyg/Screenshot-2026-04-04-164213.png)
Who was it McCamey?
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Who was it McCamey?
Jereme Richmond was the #1 freshman in the country when he committed around 2007. Granted, he didn’t get there till 2010. But id say he counts.
Since this kid hasn’t actually played at Illinois yet, you could actually count Eric Gordon in 2006 (until this commit actually plays here). I realize counting Gordon is a backdoor win in this argument, but at one time Eric Gordon and our new commitment were both at this same point, commitments.
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If my memory serves me correctly McCamey was like #64 in the country. 40 something tops I’d say.
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Who was it McCamey?
D.J. Richardson was a highly-regarded basketball recruit in the class of 2009, ranked #35 in the Recruiting Services Consensus Index (RSCI). He committed to and played for the University of Illinois Fighting Illini.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/awards/men/rsci-recruit-rankings-2009.html
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He sure did, Nichi. He sure did.
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https://247sports.com/player/juke-harris-46135186/college-321593/
Great player to look at IF we can't get Stoyakovic back.
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D.J. Richardson was a highly-regarded basketball recruit in the class of 2009, ranked #35 in the Recruiting Services Consensus Index (RSCI). He committed to and played for the University of Illinois Fighting Illini.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/awards/men/rsci-recruit-rankings-2009.html
Right, which if he were the only one, the post would be correct. It’s a little short of that standard. Now it did take every bit of 4 years to get one on campus.
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Possible sleeper
https://youtu.be/0VAzScVILKo
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Boswell, Humrichous, Redd out of eligibility
Wagler to NBA
Likely returning: Jake, Tomi, Zman, Andrej, Mirk, Rodgers, Jakstys
Roster Limbo: Brandon Lee, Mihailo Petrovic, Blake Fagbemi, Tony Billic
Additions: Lucas Morillo, Quentin Coleman, Ethan Brown, Landon Davis
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I wonder what Michigan will do. Started five transfers. The new blueprint. Buy a team with all the right pieces and the right coach and sky is the limit.
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Next Year braggin rights game preview....
Crowe vs our brand new recruit Coleman...see a lot of Keaton in this video...just sayin. 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMrh8zzVyac
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We are currently sitting at 4 sure losses:
Wagler
Humrichous
Boswell
Redd
Likely losses:
Fagbemi
Petrovic (unless agent pushes back)
Bilic (favor to agent or stays?)
Jakstys (maybe another mid major transfer-injuries-etc)
That would leave us at 7 open slots for this coming year filled currently by Coleman, Morillo, Davis/Brown (both could redshirt imo).
That would leave us with The Vic's (4) and Rodgers/Davis (2) the (4) newcomers, 10 total players on roster, 3 add ons or up to 15 total for the team next year. Now maybe 1-2 of the "maybe's" leave or not?
Blackwell would be priority #1 obviously, although I am of the opinion if we lose out to others here, we can have a solid backcourt with Coleman/Morillo. Coleman is going to have us all salivating again imo. Morillo is underrated also and can spell Andrej on the wing, with Rodgers as well. Next stop had better get an athletic B1G or 2 to join the fray!!
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Zavier Zens is on campus....would be a perfect Andrej replacement next year. Can we land him though? Who knows, no portal info as of yet on anyone.
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Boswell, Humrichous, Redd out of eligibility
Wagler to NBA
Likely returning: Jake, Tomi, Zman, Andrej, Mirk, Rodgers, Jakstys
Roster Limbo: Brandon Lee, Mihailo Petrovic, Blake Fagbemi, Tony Billic
Additions: Lucas Morillo, Quentin Coleman, Ethan Brown, Landon Davis
Updates: Security around recruiting plans seems to be very tight. Vibes I am getting:
Wagler and his family are not 100% ready for him to turn pro. Just a few months ago he was planning to possibly redshirt. He will likely go, but had not decided.
Hate to say it, but as of now, seems like Rodgers likely won't return.
We are in good shape with John Blackwell and his dad would like hm to come here.
Meanwhile, fwiw Andrej Stojakovic is in California working with elite NBA trainer Jordan Lawley -- In preparatiom.for the Draft
Recruiting and retention are fluid
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Not a surprise
NEWS: Illinois' Mihailo Petrovič will enter the transfer portal, agent Miško Ražnatović told DraftExpress.
The 23-year-old Serbian point guard played sparingly for the Illini, but will have two years of NCAA eligibility remaining. https://x.com/i/status/2043018076707254613
— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) April 11, 2026
(https://i.ibb.co/HpN93DPV/giphy.gif) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Toni Bilic portaling. We hardly knew ye.
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Another non-shocker: Wagler officially declares for the draft
Will go down as an Illini legend and one hell of a success story. Go be great at the next level, kid!
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As much as I'd love to see Wagler as a national player of the year candidate here, he'd be nuts to not take the NBA route now.
Petrovic is the least surprising transfer in years. Stojakovich being gone would be no surprise. Rodgers would surprise me a bit.
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Latest is Ty Rodgers is trending likely staying. Also Andrej.
Blackwell probably us or Duke, with us having an edge, but Duke is still Duke.
They also supposedly like this guy:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5311991/stefan-vaaks
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Another non-shocker: Wagler officially declares for the draft
Will go down as an Illini legend and one hell of a success story. Go be great at the next level, kid!
Wags was just a pleasure to watch play and I hate to see him go.
"This follows the most decorated freshman season ever by an Illini, where Wagler set program freshman records in the following categories: total points (663), scoring average (17.9 ppg), 20-point games (11), field goals (202), three-pointers (87), free throws (172), starts (37), minutes (1,254) and wins (28)."
From the UI hoops site.
The skinny freshman from Kansas also averaged 5 rebounds a game and a 2.4:1 assist to turnover ratio.
Stay healthy, have a great career and thanks. 👏👏👏
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Lucas Morillo played at the Nike Hoops Summit 12pts, 3 rebs, 2 Asst, 3 steals, 2-4 from 3, 3 T/O and 4 PF.....21 minutes of play.
I would venture to say that we may have us another under-rated guard/wing player, retain Andrej....Morillo gets some of his minutes, + guard minutes. With Coleman and him both, we will be solid at guard play, with or without Blackwell....although I would love to have him or Wilkins actually.
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Wags was just a pleasure to watch play and I hate to see him go.
"This follows the most decorated freshman season ever by an Illini, where Wagler set program freshman records in the following categories: total points (663), scoring average (17.9 ppg), 20-point games (11), field goals (202), three-pointers (87), free throws (172), starts (37), minutes (1,254) and wins (28)."
From the UI hoops site.
The skinny freshman from Kansas also averaged 5 rebounds a game and a 2.4:1 assist to turnover ratio.
Stay healthy, have a great career and thanks. 👏👏👏
Good stuff, amen
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Zavier Zens is on campus....would be a perfect Andrej replacement next year. Can we land him though? Who knows, no portal info as of yet on anyone.
Are we assuming we are losing Andrej? He says himself that he loves it here. I would think he would be likely to return.
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Are we assuming we are losing Andrej? He says himself that he loves it here. I would think he would be likely to return.
Sorry I meant minutes/backup, and into the following year, so next-next year
not clarified at all.....busy day....few brain cells I got left are going elsewhere.
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Alex Constanza back in play?
https://www.on3.com/rivals/news/4-star-georgetown-signee-alex-constanza-reopening-recruitment/
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Mirk is back
(https://www.illinoisloyalty.com/attachments/image-png.49750/)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HF-Euu6XoAAFysE?format=jpg&name=large)
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Noice.
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Hell yeah
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Noice.
Trump advised him to go pro but Bobby White Sox called him and said good Catholic boys stick around.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HF-Euu6XoAAFysE?format=jpg&name=large)
Feel like his song to come out too during introductions should be the Good the Bad and the Ugly....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9EZGHcu3E8
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NEWS: Tomislav Ivisic, Zvonimir Ivisic and Jake Davis will return to Illinois next season, Misko Ražnatović told DraftExpress.
The trio joins David Mirkovic, who announced earlier today, giving Brad Underwood 4 of his top 8 scorers back from last season's Final Four team.
https://x.com/i/status/2044592953113407661
https://x.com/MiskoRaznatovic/status/2044599308918427941
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Charlie Villanueva committed to Illinois because of the women:
https://youtu.be/5kHZYTVeNyo
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NEWS: Tomislav Ivisic, Zvonimir Ivisic and Jake Davis will return to Illinois next season, Misko Ražnatović told DraftExpress.
The trio joins David Mirkovic, who announced earlier today, giving Brad Underwood 4 of his top 8 scorers back from last season's Final Four team.
https://x.com/i/status/2044592953113407661
https://x.com/MiskoRaznatovic/status/2044599308918427941
That's great.
We'll be tall again with Vaaks coming in.
Maybe Vaaks' defensive concerns are related more to more coaching than not being an every day guy.
"Vaaks' next stop must correct his defensive game next season. He showed his most flaws there while playing for one of the Big East's worst defenses.
https://clutchpoints.com/ncaa-basketball/1-transfer-portal-target-illinois-basketball-must-sign
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Brad knows how to math.....Zens kid will make 15 or Blackwell will make 15....who is the one that still will exit and transfer yet? Or god forbid we are losing.....don't want to speak the actual name into existance.
IF we were to get both or Zens doesn't commit (unlikely imo), still think he is Utah St bound. Constanza back in play potentially? Either way we will be over by 1 player, if we get two of them.
Jakstys
Rodgers (Portal Combat Player)
Fagbemi
Lee
??????
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Jakstys
Fagbemi
Lee
can all go, they are not good at college basketball
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Zens choosing tonight is blowing up the Utah State fanbase. Anything from he won't choose us, to WOW we get to recruit with the likes of Wisky and Illinois, to his girlfriend choosing to follow Illinois and the party scene in C/U?
Might get interesting. Could sell the kid on coming in gaining PT and experience/strength to replace Andrej next year?
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Andrej weighing NBA? Maybe best to come back and work on his 3.
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Andrej is back!! #TheRetention
https://x.com/IlliniMBB/status/2045185658348601367
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Andrej is back!! #TheRetention
https://x.com/IlliniMBB/status/2045185658348601367
In the infamous words of South Park.....Fuck Yea!!!
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Amazing, amazing where we find ourselves nowadays.....I mean just a little while ago it seems we were all worrying about losing out on 3* athletes and losing out on the high level transfer guys. Thank you ILLINI and Brad Underwood, Whitman, Antigua, Alexander, Tyler Underwood, Crocker and yes even Hamer.
Man this is a glorious time to be an ILLINI fan....this year is gonna be one hell of a ride, I just hope us fans can do exactly what Andrej says they will be doing......having A LOT of fun this year.
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Andrej is back!! #TheRetention
https://x.com/IlliniMBB/status/2045185658348601367
That's great. Glynn, talk to your kid about playing with that #2 guy, Mirk and the I Towers.
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Zavier Zen commits!!! Man we are loaded...Stoyakovic 2.0 maybe, Domask 2.0, Zens 1.0 welcome aboard young man
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/article/zavier-zens-commits-to-illinois-fighting-illini-basketball-wisconsin-lutheran-281702792/
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Good news Friday continues
https://x.com/Zavier44/status/2045236244481708537
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Good to finally feel like we may be a version of
https://archive.org/download/richie-rich-big-bucks-1990/Richie%20Rich%20Big%20Bucks/rrbb01%20000.jpg
(https://archive.org/download/richie-rich-big-bucks-1990/Richie%20Rich%20Big%20Bucks/rrbb01%20000.jpg)
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Q Coleman is officially signed, welcome aboard young man....now go get yours this year!!
Expect B1G things from the start for this kid. Perfectly happy with him and committee running the team vs a Blackwell coming aboard. If the latter wants to still come obviously you take him, otherwise Q, Vaaks, Morillo, Andrej and Mirk can handle the duties.
We still add one, but Q will be the MAN this year imo!
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Zavier Zens Interview: Thank you Marcus Domask.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laE3aQI9_ug
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Ethan Brown #34:against good competition in January
https://x.com/i/status/2016974052812788188
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Ethan Brown #34:against good competition in January
https://x.com/i/status/2016974052812788188
Ethan and Landon both look like redshirts to me, I could see Landon getting some PT if it were to come about for either though, especially concerning Jakstys and any further injuries etc.
The following year with Brown/Davis/Morillo/Coleman....then Kitt/Martin (27)....we will be B1G men/Euro B1G shopping then.
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Would like to "toot" my own horn.....found this in the archives.
April 2021 post. During the Antigua coming back or not period.
The footprint if you will should be capitalize on the diversity which is the University of Illinois student populace and get the international players as we are currently and in the future. I have said for many years, the athletic 6-5/6-10 players, ala, Flying illini type of players, and the general recruiting of international players such as Gonzaga has built there program on is the only 2 ways to go with how the game has changed.
The Flying ILLINI class was well ahead of it's time in type of players, type of game, and of course the shorts also...which by the way the Fab 5 themselves...Webber and Rose specifically has attributted to taking the trend from them.
We desperately need those athletes and the international blend to make this program truly Tops in the land long term.
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Roster Configuration as of today:
5 freshman (good start to a solid 27 squad:
Brown, Coleman, L. Davis, Morillo and Zens
4 sophomores:Thinking all may still be here with recent portal entries
Fagbemi, Jakstys, Mirkovic, Vaaks
4 Seniors and thankful we have them all:
The Ivisic twins, J. Davis, Stojakovic
13 slots filled and 2 remaining. BU track record is to hold one back, so 1 more to get from portal. On 3 Website has us still slight favorite over Duke for Blackwell, however so called insiders are calling the dogs off that hunt it seems as we have lost the rabbit.
Who knows in the end.....but we will get one more regardless. I would think it would be one more from the portal.
2027 will have us starting with players left that will be major contributors of 6'7, 6'4,6'4,6'8,6'7 the freshman this year and Jakstys, Fagbemi. Incoming freshman will be 6'6 and 6'5 (Kitt/Martin).
I would fully expect to lose Mirk/Vaaks after this year. We will be hunting B1Gs for the next group.
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IlliniChief: AOTC!