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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 01:22:06 PM
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Pete Carroll stepping down as HC of Seahawks. Could stay with organization in another capacity.
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Hot take: I’d take Pete Carroll over Jim Harbaugh. And it’s an even easier decision if Carroll is 6-10 years younger.
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Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh both strike me as individuals who are intelligent winners and thus know better than to take the Bears job
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Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh both strike me as individuals who are intelligent winners and thus know better than to take the Bears job
lol true
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This is ridiculous… 🥴
https://x.com/rgiii/status/1746701667809337709?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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We could have had Puka Nacua and drafted Tyler Scott 🤦♂️
Poles needs to find a WR guru, because Velus, Chase, and Tyler aren’t cutting it.
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Hire the guy that scouted Dontayvion Wicks.
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We could have had Puka Nacua and drafted Tyler Scott 🤦♂️
Poles needs to find a WR guru, because Velus, Chase, and Tyler aren’t cutting it.
Nacua had a slow 40 time per the fella on the radio broadcast.
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Kind of crazy how Cooper Kupp went from best WR in the league to afterthought in what should still be the prime of his career.
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Maybe these “no name” WR’s before the season are a product of their QBs?!
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Maybe these “no name” WR’s before the season are a product of their QBs?!
I know we are bonered up about QBs around here, but maybe sometimes good WR play is a byproduct of just being a good WR?
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I know we are bonered up about QBs around here, but maybe sometimes good WR play is a byproduct of just being a good WR?
But why don’t you say this about QBs?!
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But why don’t you say this about QBs?!
I love the super reductive HQ2 logic that says WRs don't deserve any credit or blame.for their play. Only the quarterback gets credit or blame. Stupid.
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Justin Fields.didnt cause Scott, Mooney, and Tonyan to drop balls in critical situation after critical situation. They just aren't difference making players.. Some of their poor.play .could be coaching for sure. Poles and Eberflus seem to agree. And some of it could be less than perfect quarterback play.. But at the same time, they have not been good. DJ Moore had a career year. it's not all the quarterback
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I love the super reductive HQ2 logic that says WRs don't deserve any credit or blame.for their play. Only the quarterback gets credit or blame. Stupid.
I love the super reductive Tempo logic that says Fields doesn’t deserve any credit or blame for his play. Only the other players and coaches gets blame (when bad). And only Fields gets the credit (when good). Stupid.
See how that works?!
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Justin Fields.didnt cause Scott, Mooney, and Tonyan to drop balls in critical situation after critical situation. They just aren't difference making players.. Some of their poor.play .could be coaching for sure. Poles and Eberflus seem to agree. And some of it could be less than perfect quarterback play.. But at the same time, they have not been good. DJ Moore had a career year. it's not all the quarterback
All QB’s have WR’s that drop balls and bad play calls. Good ones overcome, bad ones blame.
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Lol
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Im not talking just general "drops,." Critical situations they never make the play. If Scott and Tonyan catch perfectly thrown deep balls the Bears would have been playing for a division title on the last Sunday of the year (with a Lions loss). I get that Fields hasn't been perfect, especially late in games, but no one has been good for.them in critical situations, from coaching on down. The list of late game screwups that Fields had no control over is a fairly lengthy one
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All QB’s have WR’s that drop balls and bad play calls. Good ones overcome, bad ones blame.
Houston was top 3 in dropped balls per the broadcast yesterday.
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Im not talking just general "drops,." Critical situations they never make the play. If Scott and Tonyan catch perfectly thrown deep balls the Bears would have been playing for a division title on the last Sunday of the year (with a Lions loss). I get that Fields hasn't been perfect, especially late in games, but no one has been good for.them in critical situations, from coaching on down. The list of late game screwups that Fields had no control over is a fairly lengthy one
The Bears looked like ass on both sides of the ball against the Packer. Remember how that was supposed to be such a big game for the Bear? Until it wasn't.
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Houston was top 3 in dropped balls per the broadcast yesterday.
And Nico Collins, Tank Dell, and Noah Brown are all among league leaders in separation stats.
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Houston was top 3 in dropped balls per the broadcast yesterday.
Also' I pulled up a list on Google that has them at 20th
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And Nico Collins, Tank Dell, and Noah Brown are all among league leaders in separation stats.
Were all household names before this year. Then they got a guy who would and could actually throw the ball...
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Also' I pulled up a list on Google that has them at 20th
Maybe NBC has better Google searchers?
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Were all household names before this year. Then they got a guy who would and could actually throw the ball...
No one here has said good QB play didn’t help. No one. But Nico Collins was an up an coming talent. Noah Brown is a legitimate NFL receiver -!; Tank Dell wasn’t in the league last year.
Talent, scheme, coaching, play-calling, QB play. It all works together.
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https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/nfl/nfl-teams-with-most-dropped-passes-this-season-bm10/
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No one here has said good QB play didn’t help. No one. But Nico Collins was an up an coming talent. Noah Brown is a legitimate NFL receiver -!; Tank Dell wasn’t in the league last year.
Talent, scheme, coaching, play-calling, QB play. It all works together.
QB who throws the ball, QB who does not stand there staring down field, QB who doesn't suck....
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https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/nfl/nfl-teams-with-most-dropped-passes-this-season-bm10/
Don't know what to tell you.
Raiders were also mentioned as being up there.
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QB who throws the ball, QB who does not stand there staring down field, QB who doesn't suck....
Get that from PFF? Sounds legit.
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Don't know what to tell you.
Raiders were also mentioned as being up there.
Guy on a broadcast couldn’t be wrong.
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If you factor in the Bears don’t throw as much as many other teams their drop percentages jumps to top half of the league.
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Wouldn’t doubt the Bears lead the league in “critical drops,” if there is such a stat.
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Fields leads the league in the amount fans that make excuses for his terrible play!
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Reading HQ2 you would think that all a team really needs is a quarterback who can put up big passing numbers. Well look at Miami, they have perhaps the best 1-2 WR tandem in the league, 2 electric RBs, a HC who is considered a wunderkind, a HOF caliber LT, and the league’s top passer. And now “You can’t win with Tua” is coming off the lips of people everywhere. And don’t tell me that if I’d mentioned Tua as a limited ceiling guy 6 weeks ago I wouldn’t have been roasted. I absolutely would have been.
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Fields leads the league in the amount fans that make excuses for his terrible play!
You’ve surpassed PAMan for board lead for most lame trolling attempts!
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I get the feeling Dan Campbell is going to choke this away.
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Guy on a broadcast couldn’t be wrong.
Skeptical
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Fields leads the league in the amount fans that make excuses for his terrible play!
Heard that this weekend on a game broadcast too
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If you factor in the Bears don’t throw as much as many other teams their drop percentages jumps to top half of the league.
PFF link?
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You’ve surpassed PAMan for board lead for most lame trolling attempts!
I need to up my game then!
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Reading HQ2 you would think that all a team really needs is a quarterback who can put up big passing numbers. Well look at Miami, they have perhaps the best 1-2 WR tandem in the league, 2 electric RBs, a HC who is considered a wunderkind, a HOF caliber LT, and the league’s top passer. And now “You can’t win with Tua” is coming off the lips of people everywhere. And don’t tell me that if I’d mentioned Tua as a limited ceiling guy 6 weeks ago I wouldn’t have been roasted. I absolutely would have been.
Negates your whole Fields narrative actually.
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The NFC north is going to be a very tough division next year. Good luck, Caleb!
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The NFC north is going to be a very tough division next year. Good luck, Caleb!
If he is a Bear, odds are he won't be, 2024 is already doomed because they brought back Eberlose and Poles.
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If he is a Bear, odds are he won't be, 2024 is already doomed because they brought back Eberlose and Poles.
I'm guessing the odds are that Caleb is a Bear. If they were thinking Justin's the guy, Getsy likely would have been kept. But...it's the Bears.
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I'm guessing the odds are that Caleb is a Bear. If they were thinking Justin's the guy, Getsy likely would have been kept. But...it's the Bears.
I don’t agree with that, but we’ll see. It was clear Getsy was in over his head.
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Reading HQ2 you would think that all a team really needs is a quarterback who can put up big passing numbers. Well look at Miami, they have perhaps the best 1-2 WR tandem in the league, 2 electric RBs, a HC who is considered a wunderkind, a HOF caliber LT, and the league’s top passer. And now “You can’t win with Tua” is coming off the lips of people everywhere. And don’t tell me that if I’d mentioned Tua as a limited ceiling guy 6 weeks ago I wouldn’t have been roasted. I absolutely would have been.
Bingo. You can’t even credit guys like Nico Collins, Tank Dell, Jayden Reed, and Dontayvion Wicks without people here trying to give all the credit (or blame) to the quarterback. And yes, I’ve acknowledged Stroud and Love are playing really well multiple times. You could even argue they are the two hottest QBs in the league.
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What kind of retards think it’s solely QB play? It’s as important as ever with the newer rules, but a well constructed team can accomplish a lot with just competency at the QB position.
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What kind of retards think it’s solely QB play? It’s as important as ever with the newer rules, but a well constructed team can accomplish a lot with just competency at the QB position.
Any time I try to give the Texans or Packers coaching staff or receivers credit being good or playing well I get lectured about how it’s almost solely because of the quarterback. Here come the “No we don’t!” comments.
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Any time I try to give the Texans or Packers coaching staff or receivers credit being good or playing well I get lectured about how it’s almost solely because of the quarterback. Here come the “No we don’t!” comments.
Except you do the exact opposite in defending Fields. Your arguments are laughable.
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Except you do the exact opposite in defending Fields. Your arguments are laughable.
Over the last two years his coaching, receivers, and OLine have been:
Receivers: bottom 5-7
Oline: bottom 10
Coaching: bottom 5
Do you take major issue with any of that?
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And last year his receivers were probably bottom one.
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Last years’ group of receivers may have been the most ragtag group I’ve ever seen on an NFL roster. In 45 years of watching football.
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And we didn’t even have Mooney half the year.
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Going into this year is interesting. Bears ranked 22nd. Interestingly, Houston and Green Bay ranked in the bottom three teams. Funny what a good QB will do for a team…
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2653564/amp
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You should check out the other rankings as well. Particularly the QB ones 😂
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What kind of retards think it’s solely QB play? It’s as important as ever with the newer rules, but a well constructed team can accomplish a lot with just competency at the QB position.
We just saw what a "game manager" could do coming off the couch.
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Over the last two years his coaching, receivers, and OLine have been:
Receivers: bottom 5-7
Oline: bottom 10
Coaching: bottom 5
Do you take major issue with any of that?
I have. Poles has not done a good job. You finally are admitting it.
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Going into this year is interesting. Bears ranked 22nd. Interestingly, Houston and Green Bay ranked in the bottom three teams. Funny what a good QB will do for a team…
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2653564/amp
Their receivers are all like 1st and 2nd year guys. Yes. They’ve gotten some outstanding quarterback play recently, but you can see the talent and scheme are contributing as well.
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I have. Poles has not done a good job. You finally are admitting it.
If the expectation is building a playoff team in one off-season from scratch, sure you are right.
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Going into this year is interesting. Bears ranked 22nd. Interestingly, Houston and Green Bay ranked in the bottom three teams. Funny what a good QB will do for a team…
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2653564/amp
From your link. Even with the bad preseason rating, they acknowledge the “potential” of the group. They are reaching it. If Watson finally gets healthy and reaches his, they are going to be a serious problem for the NFC North.
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Fuck. It did it again.
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Fuck. I’ll try a 3rd time.
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From your link. Even with the bad preseason rating, they acknowledge the “potential” of the group. They are reaching it. If Watson finally gets healthy and reaches his, they are going to be a serious problem for the NFC North.
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And like you stated with the wide receivers scheming and coaching has a lot to do with it, the QB at times has more than you think to do with those sacks. Hanging onto the ball way too long and refusing to throw it can play into that.
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If the expectation is building a playoff team in one off-season from scratch, sure you are right.
The expectation was that all the draft picks and cap space plus a last place schedule would make this team the Texans. Except the Texans did a better job under worse circumstances.
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And like you stated with the wide receivers scheming and coaching has a lot to do with it, the QB at times has more than you think to do with those sacks. Hanging onto the ball way too long and refusing to throw it can play into that.
Of course, and how many sacks has Fields avoided due to his elite mobility? My guess is it's at worst a wash.
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The expectation was that all the draft picks and cap space plus a last place schedule would make this team the Texans. Except the Texans did a better job under worse circumstances.
Again, multiple factors at work here.
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Again, multiple factors at work here.
Poles, Eberlose, and Fields: The Axis of Incompetence.
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The Bears were projected to win like 7 games, so any "expectation" beyond that was fans being fans.
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The Bears were projected to win like 7 games, so any "expectation" beyond that was fans being fans.
Projected by whom? Vegas?
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Projected by whom? Vegas?
Yes, their over under was 7 or 7.5
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Yes, their over under was 7 or 7.5
That's meaningless. Vegas' goal is to get even betting on both sides of a line, not to make the line accurate.
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That's meaningless. Vegas' goal is to get even betting on both sides of a line, not to make the line accurate.
Duh, but everyone and their brother would have taken the under at 10.
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Duh, but everyone and their brother would have taken the under at 10.
I had them at 14 given your analysis over the summer and the weak schedule. My bad.
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I had them at 14 given your analysis over the summer and the weak schedule. My bad.
Don’t forget Fields being an MVP candidate…
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Don’t forget Fields being an MVP candidate…
Was part of Tempo's summer analysis I stupidly relied upon.
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I had them at 14 given your analysis over the summer and the weak schedule. My bad.
You also had the Bears winning the SB and the Fighting Illini to win the national basketball title last year.
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Was part of Tempo's summer analysis I stupidly relied upon.
My fault you picked the Illini in your NCAA bracket, too?
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Go Bucs! Mayfield looking like a great pick up for them.
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Former Illini Chase McLaughlin with some big FGs for the Bucs too.
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Mucho drops for the Bucs receivers.
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Eagles are really fortunate to be in this game honestly
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Hold the football too long wut.
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Jalen Hurts fucking sucks…
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The Eagles collapse in the last month really is quite something
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My fault you picked the Illini in your NCAA bracket, too?
I listened to Beach Bum's analysis for that one.
Still won the HQ2 Challenge
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The Eagles collapse in the last month really is quite something
They look like the Bear.
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Jalen Hurts fucking sucks…
It certainly looks like defenses have figured him out. Or... he's been really hurting badly for some time.
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Hurts isn’t 100% but I think a bunch of it is guys getting worn down late in the season and also teams making adjustments as they always do.
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Lions vs Bucs is gonna be wild
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Only took Baker 6 years and 4 teams to figure out the NFL!
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Jalen Hurts fucking sucks…
No longer eleet?
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I listened to Beach Bum's analysis for that one.
Still won the HQ2 Challenge
With a champion that was eliminated 1st round? Tallest midget?
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Hurts isn’t 100% but I think a bunch of it is guys getting worn down late in the season and also teams making adjustments as they always do.
#NoExcuses
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I was never on the Hurts train. Sometimes you just know fool’s gold when you see it. Least I haven’t seen any Chunky soup commercials with he and his mom.
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Been hearing Sirianni is likely fired if they lost today. Stunning turn of events after almost winning a SB last year, and starting this year 10-1. Philly has never been afraid to pull the plug, though.
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Tampa getting really overlooked with Houston, GB, Detroit stealing a lot of the headlines. I figured they’d tank this year and that clearly didn’t come to fruition,
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I was never on the Hurts train. Sometimes you just know fool’s gold when you see it. Least I haven’t seen any Chunky soup commercials with he and his mom.
What about his impressive squat total?
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With a champion that was eliminated 1st round? Tallest midget?
Miles is the Tallest Midget around here.
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What about his impressive squat total?
I’m still doing 36 reps of 505 lbs on the inclined leg press 3x a week and I never even saw the field
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I’m still doing 36 reps of 505 lbs on the inclined leg press 3x a week and I never even saw the field
Maybe you should be the Bear 3rd and 4th and 1 QB specialist with those numbers.
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My weakness is I throw 80% 50/50 balls. Hopefully we can get Tempo and his cousin on our team!
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My weakness is I throw 80% 50/50 balls. Hopefully we can get Tempo and his cousin on our team!
Hmmm. Would be an improvement on the current situation.
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I’m from the Rex Grossman school of quarterbacking: Fuck it, I’m going deep. I ain’t no wingback.
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My weakness is I throw 80% 50/50 balls. Hopefully we can get Tempo and his cousin on our team!
Is that Tempo's Cousin? I think he’s triple-covered. You know what? Fuck it. I’m throwing it downfield.
Yeah, I see Tempo open on the flank. But fuck that. Dumpoff passes are for faggots. I’m fucking Sexy Custard. I can get that ball in there. And, even if I can’t, I bet I’ll be able to pull it off the next go round. I like throwing the ball long. It makes my dick hard.
What’s that? I should throw a quick slant? Fuck that. That’s gay. Button hook? Gay. Flare out? Gay. Screen pass? Kevin Spacey gay. This is fucking football. You can’t just expect wins to come to you. You can’t massage that shit. You gotta grab that game by the throat and rape the ever-loving shit out of it. You think a 5-yard out is gonna win you a game? You’re a pussy. This ain’t Luke Getsy running this offense. Sexy Custard’s got the arm. The dragon. You gotta unleash the dragon.
Okay, I’m throwing it. Nice. Look how far it went. I look good. I bet I made that Pats cheerleader wet her panties with that throw. She fucking wants me. I bet she likes it over a stair railing. I can hit that with 100% accuracy, my dear. Mmmmmm. I am delicious.
Oh shit. Looks like Mn caught it. Again. Oh well. It still felt fucking great to throw that shit. Tell me that wasn’t one of the prettiest passes you ever saw. You know what? Not only am I gonna throw it long the next time we hit the field. I’m gonna throw it even longer. Harder. You see that kid in wheelchair sitting in the end zone bleachers? I’m gonna nail him right between the fucking eyes with a Custard fastball. Why? Because I can.
This is Custard we’re talking about here. We’re talking 210 lbs. of twisted steel and sex appeal. I’m not just a gunslinger. I’m a cumslinger. Throwing that ball long tells all the Custardettes that I am fucking out there. On the edge. Where I gotta be. The ladies love the danger. The unpredictability. Oh, maybe I’ll tease them with a pretty touch pass every now and again. But then I’m gonna go right back to pumping that ball out for all it’s worth. It tells them I throw like I fuck. That’s how we do things in the sexy business.
Tell me you’re not turned on right now. I am.
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That is peak HQ2 and I can’t thank you enough.
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97 hit the hash pipe pretty hard before bed.
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Is that Tempo's Cousin? I think he’s triple-covered. You know what? Fuck it. I’m throwing it downfield.
Yeah, I see Tempo open on the flank. But fuck that. Dumpoff passes are for faggots. I’m fucking Sexy Custard. I can get that ball in there. And, even if I can’t, I bet I’ll be able to pull it off the next go round. I like throwing the ball long. It makes my dick hard.
What’s that? I should throw a quick slant? Fuck that. That’s gay. Button hook? Gay. Flare out? Gay. Screen pass? Kevin Spacey gay. This is fucking football. You can’t just expect wins to come to you. You can’t massage that shit. You gotta grab that game by the throat and rape the ever-loving shit out of it. You think a 5-yard out is gonna win you a game? You’re a pussy. This ain’t Luke Getsy running this offense. Sexy Custard’s got the arm. The dragon. You gotta unleash the dragon.
Okay, I’m throwing it. Nice. Look how far it went. I look good. I bet I made that Pats cheerleader wet her panties with that throw. She fucking wants me. I bet she likes it over a stair railing. I can hit that with 100% accuracy, my dear. Mmmmmm. I am delicious.
Oh shit. Looks like Mn caught it. Again. Oh well. It still felt fucking great to throw that shit. Tell me that wasn’t one of the prettiest passes you ever saw. You know what? Not only am I gonna throw it long the next time we hit the field. I’m gonna throw it even longer. Harder. You see that kid in wheelchair sitting in the end zone bleachers? I’m gonna nail him right between the fucking eyes with a Custard fastball. Why? Because I can.
This is Custard we’re talking about here. We’re talking 210 lbs. of twisted steel and sex appeal. I’m not just a gunslinger. I’m a cumslinger. Throwing that ball long tells all the Custardettes that I am fucking out there. On the edge. Where I gotta be. The ladies love the danger. The unpredictability. Oh, maybe I’ll tease them with a pretty touch pass every now and again. But then I’m gonna go right back to pumping that ball out for all it’s worth. It tells them I throw like I fuck. That’s how we do things in the sexy business.
Tell me you’re not turned on right now. I am.
👏🏼 well done.
Tempo and Spark are offended though…
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Too long for a sig.
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Is that Tempo's Cousin? I think he’s triple-covered. You know what? Fuck it. I’m throwing it downfield.
Yeah, I see Tempo open on the flank. But fuck that. Dumpoff passes are for faggots. I’m fucking Sexy Custard. I can get that ball in there. And, even if I can’t, I bet I’ll be able to pull it off the next go round. I like throwing the ball long. It makes my dick hard.
What’s that? I should throw a quick slant? Fuck that. That’s gay. Button hook? Gay. Flare out? Gay. Screen pass? Kevin Spacey gay. This is fucking football. You can’t just expect wins to come to you. You can’t massage that shit. You gotta grab that game by the throat and rape the ever-loving shit out of it. You think a 5-yard out is gonna win you a game? You’re a pussy. This ain’t Luke Getsy running this offense. Sexy Custard’s got the arm. The dragon. You gotta unleash the dragon.
Okay, I’m throwing it. Nice. Look how far it went. I look good. I bet I made that Pats cheerleader wet her panties with that throw. She fucking wants me. I bet she likes it over a stair railing. I can hit that with 100% accuracy, my dear. Mmmmmm. I am delicious.
Oh shit. Looks like Mn caught it. Again. Oh well. It still felt fucking great to throw that shit. Tell me that wasn’t one of the prettiest passes you ever saw. You know what? Not only am I gonna throw it long the next time we hit the field. I’m gonna throw it even longer. Harder. You see that kid in wheelchair sitting in the end zone bleachers? I’m gonna nail him right between the fucking eyes with a Custard fastball. Why? Because I can.
This is Custard we’re talking about here. We’re talking 210 lbs. of twisted steel and sex appeal. I’m not just a gunslinger. I’m a cumslinger. Throwing that ball long tells all the Custardettes that I am fucking out there. On the edge. Where I gotta be. The ladies love the danger. The unpredictability. Oh, maybe I’ll tease them with a pretty touch pass every now and again. But then I’m gonna go right back to pumping that ball out for all it’s worth. It tells them I throw like I fuck. That’s how we do things in the sexy business.
Tell me you’re not turned on right now. I am.
15 days into 2024, and we have the post of the year.
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It was bizarre and barely made sense, but whatever.
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15 days into 2024, and we have the post of the year.
to be fair, its just an edited copypasta about Rex Grossman from an ancient blog called kissing suzy kolber
https://kissingsuzykolber.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield/
not much effort or creativity was involved on my part
can't believe you old timers have never heard that one
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to be fair, its just an edited copypasta about Rex Grossman from an ancient blog called kissing suzy kolber
https://kissingsuzykolber.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield/
not much effort or creativity was involved on my part
can't believe you old timers have never heard that one
Nope, never.
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to be fair, its just an edited copypasta about Rex Grossman from an ancient blog called kissing suzy kolber
https://kissingsuzykolber.wordpress.com/2006/11/27/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield/
not much effort or creativity was involved on my part
can't believe you old timers have never heard that one
QAnon97 = Dr. Claudine Gay is a match.
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Is that Tempo's Cousin? I think he’s triple-covered. You know what? Fuck it. I’m throwing it downfield.
Yeah, I see Tempo open on the flank. But fuck that. Dumpoff passes are for faggots. I’m fucking Sexy Custard. I can get that ball in there. And, even if I can’t, I bet I’ll be able to pull it off the next go round. I like throwing the ball long. It makes my dick hard.
What’s that? I should throw a quick slant? Fuck that. That’s gay. Button hook? Gay. Flare out? Gay. Screen pass? Kevin Spacey gay. This is fucking football. You can’t just expect wins to come to you. You can’t massage that shit. You gotta grab that game by the throat and rape the ever-loving shit out of it. You think a 5-yard out is gonna win you a game? You’re a pussy. This ain’t Luke Getsy running this offense. Sexy Custard’s got the arm. The dragon. You gotta unleash the dragon.
Okay, I’m throwing it. Nice. Look how far it went. I look good. I bet I made that Pats cheerleader wet her panties with that throw. She fucking wants me. I bet she likes it over a stair railing. I can hit that with 100% accuracy, my dear. Mmmmmm. I am delicious.
Oh shit. Looks like Mn caught it. Again. Oh well. It still felt fucking great to throw that shit. Tell me that wasn’t one of the prettiest passes you ever saw. You know what? Not only am I gonna throw it long the next time we hit the field. I’m gonna throw it even longer. Harder. You see that kid in wheelchair sitting in the end zone bleachers? I’m gonna nail him right between the fucking eyes with a Custard fastball. Why? Because I can.
This is Custard we’re talking about here. We’re talking 210 lbs. of twisted steel and sex appeal. I’m not just a gunslinger. I’m a cumslinger. Throwing that ball long tells all the Custardettes that I am fucking out there. On the edge. Where I gotta be. The ladies love the danger. The unpredictability. Oh, maybe I’ll tease them with a pretty touch pass every now and again. But then I’m gonna go right back to pumping that ball out for all it’s worth. It tells them I throw like I fuck. That’s how we do things in the sexy business.
Tell me you’re not turned on right now. I am.
This takes me back to days of the old CBMB forum. Well done, sir!
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Classless Packers!
https://x.com/outkick/status/1748095181381869902?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Turns out a running quarterback can be a pretty nifty thing to have in playoff games in January.
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Turns out a running quarterback can be a pretty nifty thing to have in playoff games in January.
Justin Fields is no Lamar Jackson. You’re delusional…
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Justin Fields is no Lamar Jackson. You’re delusional…
He’s every bit the runner. And could be a better passer with coaching and talent upgrades.
“You can’t name me a great quarterback without weapons.” - Terry Bradshaw
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Not saying Lamar has a “superstar” WR unit, but it’s a solid professional corps. I’d take Agholor over Mooney and he’s like their WR4. And I’d take Duvernay(#5) over Scott at this point.
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I actually think Rashod Bateman is an underutilized talent on their WR corps.
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What QBs in the playoffs are you trading Justin Fields for?
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Baltimore’s schemes and coaching on offense are just light years ahead of what the Bears do.
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What QBs in the playoffs are you trading Justin Fields for?
I don’t think I said anything in that regard.
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I don’t think I said anything in that regard.
You’re literally comparing Justin Fields (who’s numbers are worse than Mitch Trubisky passing the ball) to Lamar Jackson…
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You’re literally comparing Justin Fields (who’s numbers are worse than Mitch Trubisky passing the ball) to Lamar Jackson…
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Not that Trubisky was in a great situation (with Nagy) but he spent his 2nd year (most critical year for development IMO) with an all-time single season defense setting him up on short fields and had league representative offensive talent around him.
Justin Fields had an overmatched rookie OC, practice squad level talent supporting him.
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If I was given the choice between Mitchell Trubisky or Justin Fields to complete a 20 yard pass for my life, I am absolutely taking Fields.
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Even in California, another January playoff game in the elements.
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Should have been a pick 6 on Purdy there. Good thing for him “almost interceptions” are only a Justin Fields stat.
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I love that every playoff game you come to this thread and just ramble off a list of your favorite strawmen to yourself
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Could easily say the Bears played the Packers better in week 18 than Dallas and SF have in the playoffs.
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Packers oline is whipping the Niners dline all over the field
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Terrible decision by Love. 2 timeouts and close to FG range. No need to try and play hero ball.
Anyway, fuck the Packers.
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Terrible decision by Love. 2 timeouts and close to FG range. No need to try and play hero ball.
Anyway, fuck the Packers.
Yes very dumb, but I’m glad!
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Maybe one day we’ll stop sucking quarterback dick long enough to realize it’s a team game. And yes, the quarterback is the most important piece, but it’s not the only piece that matters. No quarterback today was prolific through the air, and all looked human. Lamar was efficient through the air, but it was his running that drove the offense.
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Great couple of pages on this thread. Fields still sucks.
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I love that every playoff game you come to this thread and just ramble off a list of your favorite strawmen to yourself
Which strawman specifically?
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Gotta love Jason Kelce.
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Did not think Jason Kelce could reach a higher level of legend, but he has.
https://x.com/icyvert/status/1749207810150154382?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Look at all these running quarterbacks having success in January playoff football.
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Look at all these running quarterbacks having success in January playoff football.
They can throw the ball too.
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They can throw the ball too.
But they can run!
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They can throw the ball too.
Sure. But pointing out that running often becomes more important in January. Buffalo crushed Houston with Lamar’s legs. And we see Allen and Mahomes making big plays with their legs tonight. Both barely had over 100 yards passing at the half.
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They can throw the ball too.
They also have much better coaching and supporting cast as well.
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They also have much better coaching and supporting cast as well.
And they both don't suck.
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That’s a touchback!
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Why has Buffalo not been able to get the ball to Diggs for 3 months?
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Why has Buffalo not been able to get the ball to Diggs for 3 months?
Because defensive coordinators who are really good can take guys away.
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Because defensive coordinators who are really good can take guys away.
Lulz
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Chiefs bailed out by refs yet again.
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That’s another bullshit call that goes KC’s way…
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Lulz
The ex NE Pats coach says, "Hello."
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Mooney catches that
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The ex NE Pats coach says, "Hello."
Held under 100 yards 12 games in a row. And an average of 47 per game. I’m sure every defensive coach they played was a genius.
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Mooney catches that
Troll says what?
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Now he is forcing it to Diggs
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Held under 100 yards 12 games in a row. And an average of 47 per game. I’m sure every defensive coach they played was a genius.
How football works. Just because the Bear suck ass DC can't do it doesn't mean anyone else can't.
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Thankfully “almost interceptions” are only a Justin Fields stat.
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How football works. Just because the Bear suck ass DC can't do it doesn't mean anyone else can't.
Diggs has been a top 5 WR in the NFL for half a decade. This 3 month stretch is almost certainly the worst he’s had.
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Cmon Buffalo, I’m sick of KC. Send them home early for a change.
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That was a big miss on 2d down
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Wide right!
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Cmon Buffalo, I’m sick of KC. Send them home early for a change.
Way to jinx them
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Game is over. Buffalo has not stopped the run at all this half.
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Allen with back to back bad reads and then WIDE RIGHT.
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And then they let them stuff it in their ass.
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Allen with back to back bad reads and then WIDE RIGHT.
3rd maybe. Had 2 guys wide open on 2d down
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Way to jinx them
Yep, totally my fault.
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And then they let them stuff it in their ass.
Didn't stop the run the 2d half. KC made adjustments at half time on D to stop the Buffalo running game.
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3rd maybe. Had 2 guys wide open on 2d down
Romo said he should have hit a wide open Diggs. Do you KNOW MORE ABOUT FOOTBALL THAN TONY ROMO? I hear Romo knows almost as much as Brad Biggs.
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Man, if you’re Josh Allen, the Bills, or a Bills fan you probably feel hopeless.
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Im excited to see more Taylor Swift next week though.
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Romo said he should have hit a wide open Diggs. Do you KNOW MORE ABOUT FOOTBALL THAN TONY ROMO? I hear Romo knows almost as much as Brad Biggs.
Would have worked out better as he would not have been hit or stepped on, whatever happened, when he made the throw like he was. Plus it was Diggs on the crossing route.
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Wow, Buffalo fans have got to be sick after watching that…
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I hate the Chiefs.
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Wow, Buffalo fans have got to be sick after watching that…
2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024.
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Should have hit Diggs. Would have been 1st and goal at the worst. Looked like Diggs had plenty of room to run.
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2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024.
Curse of the chief. Ironic?! 😂
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I’d say it’s similar to being a Bears fan but at least they’re making the playoffs most years. Of course, the double doink is worth about 4 playoff losses.
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Look at all these running quarterbacks having success in January playoff football.
https://x.com/b_willijax/status/1749270115210703328?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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😂 Bills petty as shit!
https://x.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1749287510306336783?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://x.com/b_willijax/status/1749270115210703328?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I don’t recall anyone here doing that
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I don’t recall anyone here doing that
The rest of us do.
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Since people keep trying to bring up Fields, without looking it up how many times would you guess Fields has thrown for 215+ yards, 2+ TD and 0 INT in a game?
He has 38 starts.
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Since people keep trying to bring up Fields, without looking it up how many times would you guess Fields has thrown for 215+ yards, 2+ TD and 0 INT in a game?
He has 38 starts.
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Since people keep trying to bring up Fields, without looking it up how many times would you guess Fields has thrown for 215+ yards, 2+ TD and 0 INT in a game?
He has 38 starts.
You’re not including their “almost interceptions?”
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Correct, nor am I counting Fields’.
I love that you think that is a big gotcha. You’re terrible at this.
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The answer is once in 38 starts.
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Correct, nor am I counting Fields’.
I love that you think that is a big gotcha. You’re terrible at this.
That’s an opinion.
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Let’s put it this way - one of us wants the rules to be different in terms of what counts for each QB.
I’m fine if you count the drops and missed interceptions as long as you count both, and for everyone. If you don’t want to count missed interceptions I find that totally fair, as long as you also don’t credit a QB for a good throw that one of his pass catchers dropped, and you count them the same for everyone. The consistency in how you count these things - consistently counting the hypothetical bad if you’re going to count the hypothetical good, and applying the same standards consistently between different QBs - is the important part.
You want a set up where a terrible throw from Fields doesn’t count unless it’s picked, but a great throw counts whether it’s caught or not. You also want a situation where Fields gets credit for, say, a drop by his backup tight end four weeks ago, but no other QB receives credit for their pass catchers’ drops even if, like the Chiefs, they actually are notably more likely to drop a pass than the Bears (by rate, not total). You’re willing to change the entire structure of how QB stats are kept to make one guy look better than he has been.
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No. That’s a complete exaggeration. You were literally crediting Justin with 2 INTs (both Hail Marys) and two more “almost interceptions” against Cleveland.
You’re the one who wants to cite a few extra drops as “quarterback victimization” (paraphrasing because I can’t remember the exact words you used but that is close enough). And you’re the one who wants to say that comparing Fields’ situation to Mahomes’ is “pretty fair.”
Mahomes has a top 5 all-time coach. Had the best receiving TE in NFL history his entire career (and Hill a first ballot HOF for most). He’s got multiple All-Pros on his OLine. Their receivers are not exceptional, but depth wise are still better than the Bears (and better coached).
Fields had a bottom 5 overmatched novice as his coach, a bottom half OLine (which is “much” improved over last year), and a bad receiving corps past DJ Moore. Last years’ WR corps was a complete disgrace to NFL history.
But yet, you expect a 2nd and 3rd year QB to “overcome” all of that. And to some degree he has, otherwise he’d be Zach Wilson, which he’s not.
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And coincidentally, without a great WR corps, Mahomes had easily his worst year; a year in which he was merely “good.”
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No. That’s a complete exaggeration. You were literally crediting Justin with 2 INTs (both Hail Marys) and two more “almost interceptions” against Cleveland.
You’re the one who wants to cite a few extra drops as “quarterback victimization” (paraphrasing because I can’t remember the exact words you used but that is close enough). And you’re the one who wants to say that comparing Fields’ situation to Mahomes’ is “pretty fair.”
Mahomes has a top 5 all-time coach. Had the best receiving TE in NFL history his entire career (and Hill a first ballot HOF for most). He’s got multiple All-Pros on his OLine. Their receivers are not exceptional, but depth wise are still better than the Bears (and better coached).
Fields had a bottom 5 overmatched novice as his coach, a bottom half OLine (which is “much” improved over last year), and a bad receiving corps past DJ Moore. Last years’ WR corps was a complete disgrace to NFL history.
But yet, you expect a 2nd and 3rd year QB to “overcome” all of that. And to some degree he has, otherwise he’d be Zach Wilson, which he’s not.
I mean, make up and argue against whatever you'd like - lord knows its literally all you have. The only reason anyone has pointed out the balls that hit defenders in the hands and weren't INTs is because you insist on giving Fields credit when his WRs and TEs (even backups) drop balls - something that no other QB in the league gets the benefit of. I'm fine with counting drops - as long as you count them for everyone in the league, and count terrible throws that hit defenders in the hands too. That's how the PFF grades work, and you know what they said about Fields? That when you add all that up, he's... a mediocre quarterback.
You demand that ONLY the 'hypotheticals' that benefit Fields count. The ones that don't benefit Fields, or that do benefit other QBs - you mock those and put a line about it in your signature and say "AMIRITE" like a seven year old.
I actually think its totally fucking nuts to compare Fields to Mahomes but you insist on doing it for some unknown reason. You've been ranting all year about how Mahomes hasn't been that good - and then he just played what would've been a top-5 game in Fields' career to go to his 6th straight AFC championship game. You don't accept that his WRs had the highest drop rate in the league as an excuse, or that his OC is literally one of the last guys you blamed for Fields' performance - those excuses are only valid for Fields.
If they trade down and pick another pass catcher or two in the top-10 of the draft, the excuses are over. There cannot be one single excuse for Justin Fields next season if they need to spend big draft capital because he needs the best pass catching group in the league to expect him to be an average or better quarterback. I don't care that it's a new system and new OC, I don't care that MHJ or Bowers or Odunze is a rookie, or that they have x number of new guys on the team, or that offensive linemen missed time in camp. The excuses have to end.
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And coincidentally, without a great WR corps, Mahomes had easily his worst year; a year in which he was merely “good.”
In his worst year as a pro, with his pass catchers having the highest drop rate in the NFL and an OC you have personally blamed for Fields' play in the past, Mahomes only threw for 1500 extra yards, 10 extra touchdowns, and a passer rating 6+ points better than the best Fields has ever been in any of those stats. He was the NFL's yardage leader, before he sat out the last regular season game because his team had already locked up a division title. Then he went on the road to Buffalo and had what would be one of the best games of Justin Fields' career to make his 6th straight AFC championship game.
Why you insist on comparing these two dudes, I have absolutely no fucking idea.
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I wasn’t comparing Fields to Mahomes. I was comparing their situations. One has had one far more favorable.
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Mahomes is the best ever. With the only possible exception being Brady. But yeah, other than that, Fields and him are the same…
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You've pretty consistently tried to bring up Mahomes to justify your stance on Fields all season. It's ridiculously stupid.
Even with pass catchers more likely to drop a ball and an OC who was previously blamed for Fields' own play, Mahomes' "worst" season is head and shoulders better than Fields' best.
It'd be hard to watch the playoffs so far and think, "well QB obviously isn't that big a thing, we can just figure that out later" - but somehow you've managed to do it.
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Andy Reid runs that offense, stop kidding yourself.
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Mahomes is the best ever. With the only possible exception being Brady. But yeah, other than that, Fields and him are the same…
Well yeah, Mahomes is fantastic. That's why I don't get why you have continually brought him up to compare to Fields, who is mediocre.
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I’m just showing how one guy has pretty much had the best off all worlds’ and how another has had just about the worst of all worlds. The fact that some people think JF is still worth a 1st round pick is a near miracle. And no, he’s not perfect, and probably never will be.
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Andy Reid runs that offense, stop kidding yourself.
Just recently you were ragging him here for overseeing Mahomes' "worst year as a pro", though.
It's almost like you totally change your standards based on the conclusion you're trying to arrive at, huh?
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Situation matters IMO, and Fields’ has been abysmal.
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I’m just showing how one guy has pretty much had the best off all worlds’ and how another has had just about the worst of all worlds. The fact that some people think JF is still worth a 1st round pick is a near miracle. And no, he’s not perfect, and probably never will be.
He doesn't need to be perfect.
He isn't even average thusfar, and you've CONSISTENTLY defended that and blamed it on anyone else anywhere in his vicinity.
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Just recently you were ragging him here for overseeing Mahomes' "worst year as a pro", though.
It's almost like you totally change your standards based on the conclusion you're trying to arrive at, huh?
Eh, that’s just having some fun at Nagy’s expense. But it is funny that the Chiefs are having their worst offensive year with Nagy as OC. As long as Andy Reid is on the sidelines, that is his offense.
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He doesn't need to be perfect.
He isn't even average thusfar, and you've CONSISTENTLY defended that and blamed it on anyone else anywhere in his vicinity.
I think overall he’s been “average.” There likely aren’t 16 or more quarterbacks who I think are better. I think he still can get way better with talent and coaching upgrades. You disagree. That’s fine.
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If the Bears exercise his option, spend their top picks on pass catchers, get Waldron - and he’s still the same guy he’s been… how will you react?
Can you at least commit to - if the Bears do everything you’ve said they should do, and Fields is still the same mediocre QB he’s been - not making the excuses for him next year?
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I’ll be disappointed. And likely look to move on.
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I don’t like to deal with absolutes especially regarding things that haven’t happened yet, but things would have to go incredibly sideways for me to continue making excuses for Fields should they make the necessary upgrades. I anticipate that I’ll be much less excuse friendly, but I’d also like to see what other moves they make.
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Can't believe Mahomes was able to overcome Nagy and a bad WR group to win yesterday
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I don’t like to deal with absolutes especially regarding things that haven’t happened yet, but things would have to go incredibly sideways for me to continue making excuses for Fields should they make the necessary upgrades. I anticipate that I’ll be much less excuse friendly, but I’d also like to see what other moves they make.
But then it’s too late. We have a shot at what is considered a #1 QB now.
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I don’t like to deal with absolutes especially regarding things that haven’t happened yet, but things would have to go incredibly sideways for me to continue making excuses for Fields should they make the necessary upgrades. I anticipate that I’ll be much less excuse friendly, but I’d also like to see what other moves they make.
You made excuse after excuse for him this year when this was supposed to be the "no excuses" year given all the cap room and draft picks.
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But then it’s too late. We have a shot at what is considered a #1 QB now.
We do. And about 65% of those bust. We also have an unprecedented chance to build the 53 man roster for years to come. Either path is totally defensible.
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You made excuse after excuse for him this year when this was supposed to be the "no excuses" year given all the cap room and draft picks.
Minus DJ the “upgrades” didn’t really pan out. Remember how Chase Claypool was supposed to be an important part of Fields’ development? Pretty convenient how quickly Fields detractors forgot about him. The offensive line was better, but still not “good.” Getsy proved he doesn’t deserve the title of OC and was in over his head.
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Can't believe Mahomes was able to overcome Nagy and a bad WR group to win yesterday
Got the assist from back to back bad decisions from Josh Allen in the final 2 minutes. Shouldn’t have been greedy and taken the underneath stuff that was there.
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We do. And about 65% of those bust. We also have an unprecedented chance to build the 53 man roster for years to come. Either path is totally defensible.
I’m sure you saw the thing recently about how it was about twice as likely that a QB taken #1:
Throws for 4000 yards in a season
Throws 35+ TD in a season
Makes a pro bowl
Starts 80 NFL games
Or wins a playoff game
Than a QB taken 2-5 (and the odds get notably worse the lower the QB is taken).
Can you find a QB later? Yeah, definitely - you’re just way way more likely to find one at 1.01 than anywhere else. You’re way more likely to find, say, a great WR later in the draft than a great QB.
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So is Baker Mayfield a “hit” for Cleveland? Because I’m sure he qualifies for that stat. Jameis Winston? If Jacksonville had the #1 pick I’m confident they’d be having the same conversation being had here. Keep Lawrence or start over? Not that Lawrence has been bad, but it would definitely be a conversation.
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Are we going to be happy if Caleb is the next Alex Smith? Did the Rams find Jared Goff satisfactory?
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Did Stafford transform the Lions?
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Are we going to be happy if Caleb is the next Alex Smith? Did the Rams find Jared Goff satisfactory?
Jared Goff would probably be the best QB in the Bears franchise history. As for whether they found him satisfactory - they traded him for another 1.01 QB and won the Super Bowl. I wouldn’t complain too much about that outcome.
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Is Drew Bledsoe (benched during SB run) the bar?
Jeff George once lead the league in passing yards.
Vinny Testaverde had a “good” career. Would we be happy with that?
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Jared Goff would probably be the best QB in the Bears franchise history. As for whether they found him satisfactory - they traded him for another 1.01 QB and won the Super Bowl. I wouldn’t complain too much about that outcome.
Probably. And he still wasn’t good enough for the Rams, and we’d still be bitching that he can’t play in the elements.
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Yes, they traded him for a QB who was unable to “elevate” his franchise, despite having arguably the greatest receiver of all-time.
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Did Stafford transform the Lions?
Yes if the Bears drafted a QB at 1.01 and got the years that Stafford produced in Detroit the only debate would be whether to cast his Soldier Field statue in bronze or copper. He’d be the best QB we have ever had and it wouldn’t be remotely close.
If you’re scared of spending a top pick on a QB because he might be Matt Stafford I don’t even know what to say to that.
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Matt Stafford has 10 separate seasons that would break the Bears’ single season passing yardage record, 5 that would break the passing TD record, and 3 that would break the completion percentage record.
If you think Caleb Williams is Matt Stafford you gotta move Fields ASAP.
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Yes, they traded him for a QB who was unable to “elevate” his franchise, despite having arguably the greatest receiver of all-time.
I simply cannot believe you’re arguing to keep Fields on the grounds that what if you spend the top pick on a QB and he turns out to be Goff or Matt Stafford. Jesus hahahahaha
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Yes if the Bears drafted a QB at 1.01 and got the years that Stafford produced in Detroit the only debate would be whether to cast his Soldier Field statue in bronze or copper. He’d be the best QB we have ever had and it wouldn’t be remotely close.
If you’re scared of spending a top pick on a QB because he might be Matt Stafford I don’t even know what to say to that.
So what’s more important? Putting up stats, or “elevating” those around him. Because Matthew Stafford has never won a playoff game outside of the Rams SB year. He had a career losing record with the Lions.
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Probably. And he still wasn’t good enough for the Rams, and we’d still be bitching that he can’t play in the elements.
So he was better than anyone we’ve ever had including Fields.. the Rams decided even that wasn’t good enough so they moved on from him.. and they won the Super Bowl.
Now he’s with a different team and has another shot to make it to another Super Bowl next weekend….
And your take is that all means we should keep Fields and not take the risk? Just does not follow.
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So what’s more important? Putting up stats, or “elevating” those around him. Because Matthew Stafford has never won a playoff game outside of the Rams SB year. He had a career losing record with the Lions.
And win/loss record is a QB stat? Are you sure you want to make that argument?
He’s led one of the most productive offenses pretty consistently for a decade or more. If you have a chance to take a young Matt Stafford you better do it 10/10 times.
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By my count, Stafford was 71-86 with the Lions. Build the statue now.
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By my count, Stafford was 71-86 with the Lions. Build the statue now.
You’re arguing he wouldn’t be good enough to move on from Fields for - what’s Fields’ record?
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And win/loss record is a QB stat? Are you sure you want to make that argument?
He’s led one of the most productive offenses pretty consistently for a decade or more. If you have a chance to take a young Matt Stafford you better do it 10/10 times.
They are not directly a quarterback stat, but I’ve been told the job of the quarterback is to elevate those around him and win playoff games. He did neither in Detroit. Matthew Stafford is fine if you have a super team around him like the Rams did in 2021.
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I’m okay with counting win/loss record against a QB as long as it counts for/against every QB.
I’ve typically tried to keep it out of my arguments Re:Fields because I don’t think that’s super fair to him, but if W/L is a QB stat then you absolutely have to move on from him.
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What has Matthew Stafford ever done without a “super team” besides put up stats. Nothing. He’s basically the Carmelo Anthony of the NFL.
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They are not directly a quarterback stat, but I’ve been told the job of the quarterback is to elevate those around him and win playoff games. He did neither in Detroit. Matthew Stafford is fine if you have a super team around him like the Rams did in 2021.
Does a QB’s W/L record count against him?
I have typically believed the answer is mostly “no” which is why I haven’t used that argument with Fields very often, but if it does then the Fields decision is super easy.
Matt Stafford won the same number of games in year 3 in Detroit as Fields has in 38 starts.
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What has Matthew Stafford ever done without a “super team” besides put up stats. Nothing. He’s basically the Carmello Anthony of the NFL.
What has Justin Fields ever done, period? He hasn’t won OR put up productive numbers, and yet you think it would be stupid to move on from him.
Why are the standards so different?
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I’m okay with counting win/loss record against a QB as long as it counts for/against every QB.
I’ve typically tried to keep it out of my arguments Re:Fields because I don’t think that’s super fair to him, but if W/L is a QB stat then you absolutely have to move on from him.
So you’re ok counting losses against Fields in a year in which they were actively tanking in his 2nd year. Sounds fair.
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What has Justin Fields ever done, period? He hasn’t won OR put up productive numbers, and yet you think it would be stupid to move on from him.
Why are the standards so different?
Survived Nagy, a tank, and Luke Getsy to still be considered a valuable commodity.
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So you’re ok counting losses against Fields in a year in which they were actively tanking in his 2nd year. Sounds fair.
I think if you count the losses against Stafford you should count them against Fields too. I’m okay with counting them or not counting them, but counting W/L record for some QBs and not for others is obviously stupid. The consistency is what’s important. So I’ll let you pick - does a QB’s W/L record count for/against him or doesn’t it?
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I don’t ever recall saying it was “stupid” to move on from Fields. I’ve always said I PREFER the path of continuing to build the roster. I’ve said two dozen times the case to move on from Fields has merit.
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Survived Nagy, a tank, and Luke Getsy to still be considered a valuable commodity.
Tough call there - one of the best passing QBs in the league who’s proven he can win a Super Bowl, or a guy who “aurvived” Matt Nagy and was still worth maybe a 2nd/3rd round pick after three years.
After Stafford’s third year what would you guess his value would’ve been?
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I think if you count the losses against Stafford you should count them against Fields too. I’m okay with counting them or not counting them, but counting W/L record for some QBs and not for others is obviously stupid. The consistency is what’s important. So I’ll let you pick - does a QB’s W/L record count for/against him or doesn’t it?
So three years of data in a terrible situation (including a full tear down) counts just the same as 10-11 years of data for Stafford? Not sure that’s a fair conclusion.
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I don’t ever recall saying it was “stupid” to move on from Fields. I’ve always said I PREFER the path of continuing to build the roster. I’ve said two dozen times the case to move on from Fields has merit.
Does a QB’s win/loss record count for and against them or not? Let me know and I’ll make sure to be consistent with that in future arguments.
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Got the assist from back to back bad decisions from Josh Allen in the final 2 minutes. Shouldn’t have been greedy and taken the underneath stuff that was there.
The first decision was not bad. Guy was wide open in the end zone. He got hit as he threw.
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Minus DJ the “upgrades” didn’t really pan out. Remember how Chase Claypool was supposed to be an important part of Fields’ development? Pretty convenient how quickly Fields detractors forgot about him. The offensive line was better, but still not “good.” Getsy proved he doesn’t deserve the title of OC and was in over his head.
So Poles sucked as GM last year. Got it.
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So three years of data in a terrible situation (including a full tear down) counts just the same as 10-11 years of data for Stafford? Not sure that’s a fair conclusion.
Feel free to only use Stafford’s first three years in the league, or first 38 starts. You used Stafford’s whole time in Detroit before when you were making an argument about his record so I was following your lead, but if you want to limit it to his first three seasons that’s fine with me too.
I just want you to be consistent. If drops count, I want them to count for everyone. If W/L record is a valuable metric for a quarterback, I want it to be a valuable metric for all quarterbacks. Argue using consistent logic. Don’t tell me it’s unfair to hold the W/L record against one guy and not against another guy.
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So is Baker Mayfield a “hit” for Cleveland? Because I’m sure he qualifies for that stat. Jameis Winston? If Jacksonville had the #1 pick I’m confident they’d be having the same conversation being had here. Keep Lawrence or start over? Not that Lawrence has been bad, but it would definitely be a conversation.
Any of these guys would be better than the whiny bitch playing the position now.
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Is Drew Bledsoe (benched during SB run) the bar?
Jeff George once lead the league in passing yards.
Vinny Testaverde had a “good” career. Would we be happy with that?
All better than Fields.
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What would Stafford’s value have been year 3 when he had arguably the greatest WR of all-time beginning a virtually unprecedented 3 year stretch of WR play? Probably pretty good.
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By my count, Stafford was 71-86 with the Lions. Build the statue now.
I thought W-L records didn't matter for QBs. Or is that just for Fields. Hahaha
Man this thread is just a massacre today.
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All better than Fields.
Is Fields’ career over? He’s quite possibly got another 10 years to go.
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Survived Nagy, a tank, and Luke Getsy to still be considered a valuable commodity.
This remains to be seen.
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I thought W-L records didn't matter for QBs. Or is that just for Fields. Hahaha
Man this thread is just a massacre today.
Left your A game at home today I see (and your B game, and your C game).
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What would Stafford’s value have been year 3 when he had arguably the greatest WR of all-time beginning a virtually unprecedented 3 year stretch of WR play? Probably pretty good.
HahHahahaha man you are incredibly shameless.
Can’t even pretend at some form of logical consistency.
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Any of these guys would be better than the whiny bitch playing the position now.
You brought the unfounded memes though. Nice work.
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You’re right though when his third year he threw for 5000 yards and 40 touchdowns his value was probably pretty good. He also went 10-6, if that counts.
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Does a QB’s win/loss record count for and against them or not? Let me know and I’ll make sure to be consistent with that in future arguments.
11 years certainly carries more weight than 3, one which was a complete tear down. Stafford had Magatron. Fields had Dante Pettis and N’Keal Harry.
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11 years certainly carries more weight than 3, one which was a complete year down. Stafford had Magatron. Fields had Dante Pettis and N’Keal Harry.
You can limit it to whatever subset of games you want. First three seasons, first 38 starts - whatever you need. Stats, drops, win/loss records - whatever you want. Just be consistent and quit applying wildly different criteria to different people.
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My bad, 12 years.
If you were conducting a scientific study, would you be more likely to accept the results of a 2 year study or a 6 month study?
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My bad, 12 years.
If you were conducting a scientific study, would you be more likely to accept the results of a 2 year study or a 6 month study?
So you’re just gonna keep repeating this instead of show the stats and W/L for Stafford’s first three years or first 38 starts I suppose?
Limit the data set however you need to, just apply the same standards to the two players.
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The first decision was not bad. Guy was wide open in the end zone. He got hit as he threw.
Could have gotten the ball to his best receiver who was wide open underneath and might have still scored. He got impatient and made the wrong decision.
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Feel free to only use Stafford’s first three years in the league, or first 38 starts. You used Stafford’s whole time in Detroit before when you were making an argument about his record so I was following your lead, but if you want to limit it to his first three seasons that’s fine with me too.
I just want you to be consistent. If drops count, I want them to count for everyone. If W/L record is a valuable metric for a quarterback, I want it to be a valuable metric for all quarterbacks. Argue using consistent logic. Don’t tell me it’s unfair to hold the W/L record against one guy and not against another guy.
Stafford was like a 5 year veteran 38 starts in. He missed a lot of starts year 1-2. Not apples to apples.
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I’m going to go out on a limb and say that anyone making the argument that it’s too risky to move Fields and take a QB at 1 because what if he’s Matt Stafford can be safely mocked.
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Stafford was like a 5 year veteran 38 starts in. He missed a lot of starts year 1-2. Not apples to apples.
Seriously some of the more shameless work I’ve ever seen.
Do WHATEVER YOU NEED TO to the data. Years, starts, snaps, pass attempts - literally whatever you need to. Just stop with the thing where you apply a standard to other guys that you insist is completely unfair to apply to Justin Fields.
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Eyeballing it, Stafford went 4-12 witht 20 TDs and 17 INTs and a 79 passer rating about 38 starts in. Year 4 of their rebuild. So, am I supposed to be impressed?
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20 TDs while airing out 727 times (130 more than Mahomes this year).
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You’re right though when his third year he threw for 5000 yards and 40 touchdowns his value was probably pretty good. He also went 10-6, if that counts.
And followed that up with 4-12 and 20 TDs on an insane 727 pass attempts. Is that a record?
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Second most all time. Brady eclipsed it by 6 in 2022.
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Seriously some of the more shameless work I’ve ever seen.
Do WHATEVER YOU NEED TO to the data. Years, starts, snaps, pass attempts - literally whatever you need to. Just stop with the thing where you apply a standard to other guys that you insist is completely unfair to apply to Justin Fields.
Is a QB supposed to elevate his team or just produce stats? I need clarity here.
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HahHahahaha man you are incredibly shameless.
Can’t even pretend at some form of logical consistency.
What did I say that isn’t true?
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I’m going to go out on a limb and say that anyone making the argument that it’s too risky to move Fields and take a QB at 1 because what if he’s Matt Stafford can be safely mocked.
I never directly said that.
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Stafford was pretty good at stuffing the stat sheet (with an all-time great WR and an insane amount of pass attempts). Yay. His career results are mixed at best. He was widely viewed as a loser until 2021.
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And followed that up with 4-12 and 20 TDs on an insane 727 pass attempts. Is that a record?
If Fields throws for 5,000 yards and 20 TDs on 727 attempts next year while going 4-12 (let’s call it 5-12) you gonna be pumping him up the same way you’re pumping up Stafford?
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So again, I need clarity. Is a quarterback’s primary job to elevate his team or put up big passing yards?
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I can just about assure you right now conversations among Dolphin’s higher ups are being had about whether or not Tua is the guy to lead their franchise going forward.
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Eyeballing it, Stafford went 4-12 witht 20 TDs and 17 INTs and a 79 passer rating about 38 starts in. Year 4 of their rebuild. So, am I supposed to be impressed?
Not sure if you're being dishonest on purpose here, read something wrong, or what.
Through 38 starts Matt Stafford was 17-21. He'd thrown for 10,562 yards, 71 TD and 45 INT on 60.8% completion.
His third year in the league he went 10-6, threw for 5023 yards, 41 TD and 16 INT.
Through 38 starts Fields is 10-28. He's thrown for 6674 yards, 40 TD and 30 INT on 60.3% completion.
The first of these guys - the one who won a Super Bowl - you are ripping on for being a bust of some kind (??), and the second you insist we need to keep because if you spend the first pick on a QB you might get the first guy.
By every single passing statistic - plus W/L record,you still need to let me know whether that counts or not - Matt Stafford was notably better than Fields through the same number of starts. In fact, by both wins and passing TDs, Stafford had more just in year three than Fields has through three years, along with ~75% of the passing yards.
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I can just about assure you right now conversations among Dolphin’s higher ups are being had about whether or not Tua is the guy to lead their franchise going forward.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://heavy.com/sports/miami-dolphins/tua-tagovailoa-trade-rumors-justin-fields/
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So again, I need clarity. Is a quarterback’s primary job to elevate his team or put up big passing yards?
You tell me man, it seems to shift based on what you're trying to argue.
If it's about stats, well then obviously Fields is pretty mediocre and it's probably time to move on.,
If it's about W/L record, then Fields is horrible and it's definitely time to move on.
I tend to lean toward the first thing, because I don't think it's fair to tie a W/L record to a QB - something it seemed like you agreed with until you saw a chance to use Stafford's W/L record (better than Fields', of course) to paint him as a bust.
I'm okay with arguing with you based on W/L being a QB stat, or based on it not being one. Based on Stafford's whole career so far, or only the sample he's played that matches Fields' sample. Totally fine either way. But if Stafford's record counts against him, so does Fields. If Fields' doesn't, then Stafford's doesn't either.
You tell me. You set the parameters of what stats are valid to use to evaluate a QB, and we can compare the guys
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Stafford didn’t reach 38 starts until year 4. Which would seem to be year 4 of their rebuild (assuming he was the first piece of the rebuild). They went 4-12 and he threw 20 TDs on 45.4 attempts per game.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://heavy.com/sports/miami-dolphins/tua-tagovailoa-trade-rumors-justin-fields/
Obviously doesn't put much stock into the "Justin Fields survived Matt Nagy and still has value" narrative. This guy has the Bears trading him for a third and two sixths.
I will guess they would get more than that for him, but unsure on that.
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Stafford didn’t reach 38 starts until year 4. Which would seem to be year 4 of their rebuild (assuming he was the first piece of the rebuild). They went 4-12 and he threw 20 TDs on 45.4 attempts per game.
Correct - 9 games into year 4, he started his 38th game. He was 17-21 in those 38.
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Could have gotten the ball to his best receiver who was wide open underneath and might have still scored. He got impatient and made the wrong decision.
That's just completely stupid. The guy in the end zone was wide open.
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I think it’s a lot more fair to tie a qb to a win loss record over 12 years than it is over 3, one of which wasn’t even remotely a serious effort to win.
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Stafford was pretty good at stuffing the stat sheet (with an all-time great WR and an insane amount of pass attempts). Yay. His career results are mixed at best. He was widely viewed as a loser until 2021.
Player personnel guys disagreed with that at the time. I'll admit I never saw what the big deal was either, but I remember there were people out there crowing about him.
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I never directly said that.
LMFAO.
I wonder why I called you shameless. Hmmmmm what could it be
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Stafford was pretty good at stuffing the stat sheet (with an all-time great WR and an insane amount of pass attempts). Yay. His career results are mixed at best. He was widely viewed as a loser until 2021.
Career results mixed and - whether you count the whole thing or just the 38 games or the 3 years, pretty much any way you slice the data - notably better than the current QB.
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I think it’s a lot more fair to tie a qb to a win loss record over 12 years than it is over 3, one of which wasn’t even remotely a serious effort to win.
Then tie it to Stafford over three years and post your results here.
Or the same number of starts, 38.
No matter what you tie it to, it doesn’t look good for Fields.
I don’t think it’s fair to tie a team’s record to a QB, but if it is then the QB decision this off-season is really easy.
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That's just completely stupid. The guy in the end zone was wide open.
“Sharp” football analysis disagrees. Bad decisions. Got impatient.
https://x.com/sharpfootball/status/1749264345429684717?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Then tie it to Stafford over three years and post your results here.
Or the same number of starts, 38.
No matter what you tie it to, it doesn’t look good for Fields.
I don’t think it’s fair to tie a team’s record to a QB, but if it is then the QB decision this off-season is really easy.
It’s not the same. Stafford missed a lot of starts year 1 and 2. I’m also pretty sure they didn’t actively tank an entire season.
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Career results mixed and - whether you count the whole thing or just the 38 games or the 3 years, pretty much any way you slice the data - notably better than the current QB.
So stats matter more than winning and “elevating” your team. Got it.
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I hope Justin gets to air it out 40x a game with an all-time receiver next year.
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It’s not the same. Stafford missed a lot of starts year 1 and 2. I’m also pretty sure they didn’t actively tank an entire season.
Stafford inherited a team that had not won a single game the year before.
With incredible consistency, the valid stats are the ones that make Fields look good and the invalid ones are the ones that make him look bad - even if they’re the same stats.
W/L record is entirely unfair to tie to a QB, unless you’re trying to denigrate a guy who is better than Fields in which case he has a bad record so he was a bust at 1.01. But it’s unfair to compare his whole 10+ year career to Fields’ 3 seasons. And it’s also unfair to compare his 3 seasons to Fields, because Stafford was hurt for more of them. And it’s ALSO unfair to compare his first 38 starts to Fields’ first 38, because the 0-18 team he inherited had better talent.
Unreal the pretzels you will twist yourself into to defend this guy.
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LMFAO.
I wonder why I called you shameless. Hmmmmm what could it be
Would we be happy if we draft Caleb he has lots of great stats in mostly losing seasons (with 0 playoff wins), and he goes on to win a SB with the Jets in year 12? Is that a “win” for the Bears? Good career? Sure. But we’re looking for a franchise changing quarterback? No?
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So stats matter more than winning and “elevating” your team. Got it.
Your entire argument hinges on it not mattering how few games Justin Fields has won.
If W/L record counts against a QB then Fields absolutely has to go, right? There’s no argument to keep a QB who is 10-28 or W/L record is a QB stat.
So is it a QB stat or not?
I tend to believe it’s not but am willing to argue based on your take on that if you tell me what it is and stick to it
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Stafford inherited a team that had not won a single game the year before.
With incredible consistency, the valid stats are the ones that make Fields look good and the invalid ones are the ones that make him look bad - even if they’re the same stats.
W/L record is entirely unfair to tie to a QB, unless you’re trying to denigrate a guy who is better than Fields in which case he has a bad record so he was a bust at 1.01. But it’s unfair to compare his whole 10+ year career to Fields’ 3 seasons. And it’s also unfair to compare his 3 seasons to Fields, because Stafford was hurt for more of them. And it’s ALSO unfair to compare his first 38 starts to Fields’ first 38, because the 0-18 team he inherited had better talent.
Unreal the pretzels you will twist yourself into to defend this guy.
And you want to credit him for changing the franchise. THREE YEARS LATER. And then followed that up with 4-12.
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They went 10-6 year 3 with no playoff wins. Hang a banner. Drafting Stafford #1 overall paid off.
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I can just about assure you right now conversations among Dolphin’s higher ups are being had about whether or not Tua is the guy to lead their franchise going forward.
Hope so given the cap hit. Think I heard $50m.
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Do you really not see the difference between 12 years of data and 3 (one of which is severely tainted)?
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I hope Justin gets to air it out 40x a game with an all-time receiver next year.
LOL. He can't read a zone D. New guy will figure that out soon enough.
Hilarious. Like Getsy didn't want to throw the ball.
Man, you are in rare form today.
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Would we be happy if we draft Caleb he has lots of great stats in mostly losing seasons (with 0 playoff wins), and he goes on to win a SB with the Jets in year 12? Is that a “win” for the Bears? Good career? Sure. But we’re looking for a franchise changing quarterback? No?
You seem pretty happy with Fields, who is 10-28 and doesn’t have good stats - so why wouldn’t you be? Whether you argue his personal production or his W/L record is more important, Fields has been bad and you still love him - so yes, of course.
If the Bears picked Caleb Williams and he had a Matt Stafford career as a quarterback - big numbers, consistently leading one of the best offenses in the league - that’d be an unqualified massive win, yes.
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If Fields throws for 5,000 yards and 20 TDs on 727 attempts next year while going 4-12 (let’s call it 5-12) you gonna be pumping him up the same way you’re pumping up Stafford?
Answer please.
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“Sharp” football analysis disagrees. Bad decisions. Got impatient.
https://x.com/sharpfootball/status/1749264345429684717?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
LOL. Don't need or want a TD?
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You seem pretty happy with Fields, who is 10-28 and doesn’t have good stats - so why wouldn’t you be? Whether you argue his personal production or his W/L record is more important, Fields has been bad and you still love him - so yes, of course.
If the Bears picked Caleb Williams and he had a Matt Stafford career as a quarterback - big numbers, consistently leading one of the best offenses in the league - that’d be an unqualified massive win, yes.
So you are signing up for 0 playoff wins the next 12 years as long as his yardage numbers are really good. Got it. Stats are all that matters then.
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Do you really not see the difference between 12 years of data and 3 (one of which is severely tainted)?
How many times have I said “then limit it to three years?”
And your response is, well Stafford was hurt for a lot of his first three years.
And then I say “okay then limit it to 38 starts?”
And your response is to ignore those numbers and move on to what he did in year 4?
We’ve already played this game like 2-3 times today.
No matter how you slice it - Stafford’s whole career, his NFL service, his number of starts. Through this point Stafford was considerably better both in terms of production/numbers AND W/L record, if you believe that can be tied to a QB.
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Hope Justin gets to air it out 45 times a game so he can inflate his stats.
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So you are signing up for 0 playoff wins the next 12 years as long as his yardage numbers are really good. Got it. Stats are all that matters then.
Do we inherit the 2009-2013 Detroit Lions defense and Jim Schwartz as our coach too?
Like just imagine how you'd react if the Bears had one of the best offenses and worst defenses in the league this year instead of vice versa, and PAMan blamed the W/L record on Fields.
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Again, Stafford didn’t play his 38th game until year 4. He went 4-12 and threw a measly 20 TDs on a record number of pass attempts with an all-time great WR at his peak. Hang a banner.
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Again, Stafford didn’t play his 38th game until year 4. He went 4-12 and threw a measly 20 TDs on a record number of pass attempts with an all-time great WR at his peak. Hang a banner.
Correct. He played his 38th start in year 4. Through those 38 starts he was 17-21. He had thrown 71 TD. You're mocking him for these numbers.
Justin Fields, through 38 starts, is 10-28. He has thrown 40 TD. You have been arguing for months that the Bears have to keep him.
Obviously logical consistency isn't even a thought to you here, but jesus christ.
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LOL. Don't need or want a TD?
And don’t want to give Mahomes the ball back with time. That should have been a consideration. Especially when your best receiver is wide open underneath.
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So you are signing up for 0 playoff wins the next 12 years as long as his yardage numbers are really good. Got it. Stats are all that matters then.
Stats obviously don't matter in terms of evaluating a QB, or there'd be no argument to keep Justin Fields.
W/L records also don't matter in terms of evaluating a QB, or there'd be no argument to keep Justin Fields.
It seems like maybe all that really matters are highlights? Some nebulous notion of a guy's 'ceiling' (ignoring that through the same point, Stafford was thought to have a much higher ceiling than Fields is right now).
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And don’t want to give Mahomes the ball back with time. That should have been a consideration. Especially when your best receiver is wide open underneath.
Except the guy was wide open in the end zone. The only thing stopping a TD would have been a drop, a sack, or getting hit when throwing the ball. The last one happened.
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Stafford got to throw the ball a lot more than Fields. He threw the ball about 200 times more than Fields in 9 less starts first 3 years. And had an all-time great WR in his prime.
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Except the guy was wide open in the end zone. The only thing stopping a TD would have been a drop, a sack, or getting hit when throwing the ball. The last one happened.
He got greedy. Should have taken the lay up. You’d be bashing Fields for the same.
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So you are signing up for 0 playoff wins the next 12 years as long as his yardage numbers are really good. Got it. Stats are all that matters then.
Apparently you are signing up for zero playoff games with Fields and Eberlose.
Again, the next 2 years look like they will be a waste.
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He got greedy. Should have taken the lay up. You’d be bashing Fields for the same.
LOL. The guy was wide open in the end zone. His decision making was not the issue.
Fields never would have thrown the ball because he sucks ass.
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Apparently you are signing up for zero playoff games with Fields and Eberlose.
Again, the next 2 years look like they will be a waste.
Fields is guaranteed to win at least as many playoff games in a Bears uni as Khalil Mack did.
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Fields is guaranteed to win at least as many playoff games in a Bears uni as Khalil Mack did.
You were AOTC on one but BTC on the other.
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You were AOTC on one but BTC on the other.
That is YTBD.
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I hope Caleb puts up great inflated passing stats for 12 years, wins zero playoff games, and then goes and wins a Super Bowl with another team; then we can build a statue to him. Bronze or copper?
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Answer please.
If he has the same year Stafford had in his fourth year - he throws for 5000 yards and 20 TD (would both be career highs; the yards are his career high by about double), leads an offense that is 3rd in the league in total yards and middle of the pack in scoring, but goes 5-12 with a defense that gave up the 6th most points in the league - yeah, I'd be pretty stoked about the following years. Wouldn't you? If the Bears had had the same record this year but it was because the offense carried the defense to that degree, people would obviously view Fields very differently.
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I hope Caleb puts up great inflated passing stats for 12 years, wins zero playoff games, and then goes and wins a Super Bowl with another team; then we can build a statue to him. Bronze or copper?
I don't get what point you're trying to make.
We can't use statistics or objective production to evaluate a quarterback. We can't use his win/loss record. What CAN we use to evaluate a quarterback? I've been asking you all day, and every time you list something and I apply it to Fields or another player, you immediately decide it's an unfair metric.
You name which metrics are fair to use to evaluate Fields relative to other current and previous QBs, and we'll make those comparisons. It seems like the answer is “nothing” - no metric is fair to use to evaluate Fields, because the metrics are all mediocre or worse. If that’s the case in your mind then fair enough, just let me know and I’ll stop wasting my time trying to get you to apply consistent logic to your arguments.
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He got greedy. Should have taken the lay up. You’d be bashing Fields for the same.
And you would defend this play to the ends of the earth if Fields had made it. You defended dozens of far worse decisions this year.
I didn't mind him throwing to the open guy in the end zone, but obviously getting hit affected the throw a lot.
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At a bar in Breck, some dude is jabbering about the packers, he's wearing a Jordan Love jersey. I give him a bit of side eye and he accuses me of being a Niners fan and I say "Let's just say I'm very confident about the outcome tonight".
He says "Yeah the Cowboys thought so too"
I pointed at his buddy who was wearing Bears gear and said "I think the Bears will win a playoff game before the Cowboys ever do, so you aren't saying much"
I found the end result to be delicious. But I win 800 bucks if the Lions take them out so I'm a Detroit fan now.
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Jason Kelce is a god among men. Would love to have been in the crowd interacting with him yesterday.
https://people.com/jason-kelce-helps-fan-meet-taylor-swift-chiefs-game-8547010
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Legend
https://x.com/newheightshow/status/1749206502475436262?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Harbaugh to the Chargers. Fangio will probably be his DC again unless he wants to call it quits.
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Harbaugh to the Chargers. Fangio will probably be his DC again unless he wants to call it quits.
Isn't Fangio the Miami DC? Skeptical he can lateral if he is under contract. Unless Miami lets him out.
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Isn't Fangio the Miami DC? Skeptical he can lateral if he is under contract. Unless Miami lets him out.
Miami let him go earlier today
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You guys make me sick talking about teams literally STEALING!!! That’s morally wrong and I’m so appalled I’m leaving this homophobic board! Embarrassing !
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Heard Fangio is likely going to Philly. Don’t like that. He’s the best in the biz IMO. Wonder why Miami let him go?
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I always though Chase was a petty motherfucker 😂
https://x.com/nflnotify/status/1750185734785343540?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Harbaugh finally jumps to the Chargers. Big upgrade for them (Staley was awful). I think he’s an excellent coach, but I don’t think he’s as big a deal as everyone makes him out to be. I never thought he was coming to Chicago, nor did I really want him.
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Miami let him go earlier today
Really? They had a good D despite being banged up at the end of the year. Wow.
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Heard Fangio is likely going to Philly. Don’t like that. He’s the best in the biz IMO. Wonder why Miami let him go?
Interesting. They never should have let him leave. He was "consulting" on D for them before he went to Miami.
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If I’m the Chiefs, I’m daring Lamar to beat me with his arm. Have one, maybe two people spying him and press his receivers. He has to prove he can throw the ball. So far he hasn’t. Need a QB who can throw the ball consistently.
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You can pin that last Chiefs FG on Roquan IMO. Should have been focused on getting back for huddle and getting a stop instead of playing tough guy with Kelce.
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If I’m the Chiefs, I’m daring Lamar to beat me with his arm. He has to prove he can throw the ball.
Wait, wut? Lol
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Wait, wut? Lol
His biggest weapon is his legs. Period.
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His biggest weapon is his legs. Period.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Shouldn’t you be sucking Fields dick right now?
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Shouldn’t you be sucking Fields dick right now?
Very mature answer!
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Also, how do you I’m not?
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Dudes got 5 completions (38% comp %) for 67 yards 😂 with 30 of those yards on one play. Already has a fumble and that throw just now should’ve been picked off.
Edit- you ABSOLUTELY dare him to throw and beat you with his arm.
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Seems to be working
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Seems to be working
Hey man, Tempo thinks it’s funny…
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Dudes got 5 completions (38% comp %) for 67 yards with 30 of those yards on one play. Already has a fumble and that throw just now should’ve been picked off.
Edit- you ABSOLUTELY dare him to throw and beat you with his arm.
I mentioned 2-3 months ago that Lamar has been a limited passer for much of his career and was roundly made fun of here. I’d be pretty shocked if you weren’t among those shouting me down with “MVP!”
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I mentioned 2-3 months ago that Lamar has been a limited passer for much of his career and was roundly made fun of here. I’d be pretty shocked if you weren’t among those saying shouting me down with “MVP!”
Nope, not me. He is a much better passer than Fields.
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Wow, what a play!!!
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Flowers had zero brain lmao
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That was a fucking spectacular play knocking that ball out!
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It’s kind of funny how a lot of the games “preeminent” quarterbacks are coming under fire recently. Hurts, Purdy, Lamar, Tua, Dak.
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Flowers had zero brain lmao
There and the taunting penalty.
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There and the taunting penalty.
Yep and now he cut his hand being a baby
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There and the taunting penalty.
And he punched the bench and lacerated his hand now.
What a GOAT
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And he punched the bench and lacerated his hand now.
What a GOAT
He’s about as ignorant as you!
😂 jk jk
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He’s about as ignorant as you!
😂 jk jk
I see him as more of an Ashlee Babbitt type
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I see him as more of an Ashlee Babbitt type
😂
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If Chris Jones isn’t franchise tagged by the Chiefs, you throw it all at him if you’re the Bears, right?!
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If Chris Jones isn’t franchise tagged by the Chiefs, you throw it all at him if you’re the Bears, right?!
They are already committing their money to Russell Wilson.
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I like Agholor. He’ll never be an 80 catch 1,000 yard guy, but he just has a knack for making plays. Nice to have that kind of player at WR4
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Complete meltdown by the black birds wow
Receiver got creamed in the end zone too not sure why no call there
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This would really be annoying if you were a Baltimore fan but at least they aren't bears fans.
Speaking of - I flew from Denver to SJC yesterday and the plane was packed with Lions fans. What a bunch of rookies. So well behaved.
I had a friend fly in from O'Hare for a Bears/Niners game and apparently the entire flight the whole plane sang fight songs.
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😂 oops Lamar, wrong team. So Fields-esque. With all the numbers and awards Lamar puts up you’re not gonna win a championship with a run-first QB who can’t pass consistently. Hope Poles is watching this game and taking notes…
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If Chris Jones isn’t franchise tagged by the Chiefs, you throw it all at him if you’re the Bears, right?!
Would obviously be a great signing, but Danielle Hunter would be a great addition for probably less. Plus, you weaken a division rival.
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Would obviously be a great signing, but Danielle Hunter would be a great addition for probably less. Plus, you weaken a division rival.
Good point. I’m really hoping Brian Burns is available, but I’m 98% sure he’s getting tagged.
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Lol - "good no call"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Think it's time to watch the practice flyovers - has to be more exciting than this snoozer
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Think it's time to watch the practice flyovers - has to be more exciting than this snoozer
Go replay your Jan. 6 footage…
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So sick of the Chiefs.
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Nope, not me. He is a much better passer than Fields.
Not really. He just has better support. Coaching, OLine, talent.
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Nfl is rigged, lol
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Nfl is rigged, lol
Yeah I really am starting to think this as well.
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Nfl is rigged, lol
You hate Taylor cuz you ain't her
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Yeah I really am starting to think this as well.
Boomer - "I don't know, seemed like Baltimore had a lot of guys out there"
The spotter for CBS knew the penalty and showed that to Boomer, so he could pull out a folksy style canard. I bet money on it.
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You hate Taylor cuz you ain't her
Thanks to you and others like you, he can be!
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Roquan Smith = Khalil Mack without the splash plays
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Boomer - "I don't know, seemed like Baltimore had a lot of guys out there"
The spotter for CBS knew the penalty and showed that to Boomer, so he could pull out a folksy style canard. I bet money on it.
You’re calling me a boomer and I’m probably 20-30 years younger than you…
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Thanks to you and others like you, he can be!
Genitals ain't talent
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You’re calling me a boomer and I’m probably 20-30 years younger than you…
That was almost funny
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Genitals ain't talent
Tell that to the swimmer with a dick! And those without it!
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My favorability rating on Taylor Swift has gone up dramatically the last two months.
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My favorability rating on Taylor Swift has gone up dramatically the last two months.
I like Taylor.
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Oh man, Lamar on the sideline crying. Very Caleb Williams-esque. Obviously doesn’t have the character to play QB in the NFL!
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I like Taylor.
So does my boner
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That commercial on Fox about 49ers and Lions they showed just now was great! 😂
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The stage looked too big for the Ravens from the opening kick. They did a lot to hurt themselves today.
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Genitals ain't talent
The porn industry might disagree.
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It’s kind of funny how a lot of the games “preeminent” quarterbacks are coming under fire recently. Hurts, Purdy, Lamar, Tua, Dak.
Noticed nobody touched this one.
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You hate Taylor cuz you ain't her
Who
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house money - I win $800 in a fraternity pool if the Lions win, otherwise it's the Niners.
On the plane yesterday some Lions fan asked me who I wanted to win. I said "I don't care - the Packers, Cowboys, and Patriots are already out!"
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Go harass more women drivers
You scared them all off already
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You scared them all off already
I would like Weber back
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I guess the overs bettors on the first game loved the first quarter too...
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The Bears dominated the Lions for 56
of 60 minutes this year. SMH
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The Bears dominated the Lions for 56
of 60 minutes this year. SMH
The Bears were dominated by everyone else for 2048 minutes this year
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The Bears were dominated by everyone else for 2048 minutes this year
Not Ed Zachary.
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The Bears dominated the Lions for 56
of 60 minutes this year. SMH
And still lost
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The Bears dominated the Lions for 56
of 60 minutes this year. SMH
Hang a banner
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And still lost
Once, yes. 1-1.
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Hang a banner
Not what I was getting at.
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Not what I was getting at.
Do you think the Bears in their current state could replace what the Lions are doing right now?
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This might be the funniest shit on Twitter right now… 😂🤣
https://x.com/benedictpolizzi/status/1751625138540286346?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Do you think the Bears in their current state could replace what the Lions are doing right now?
No, but I think with a few pieces they can get there. And for whatever reason, they seem to have the Lions’ number. Hopefully that continues next year.
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No, but I think with a few pieces they can get there. And for whatever reason, they seem to have the Lions’ number. Hopefully that continues next year.
Thats fair, I'd say a few more than a few pieces but whatever lol
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Thats fair, I'd say a few more than a few pieces but whatever lol
Obviously, I advocate trading down. If they can trade for a Terry McLaurin, draft MHJ, sign/draft a quality Center, sign a FA like Danielle Hunter or Chris Jones the Bears will be formidable.
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I think a monster offseason is definitely on the table.
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That catch. No fucking way. Vildor had a sure INT go off his face.
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Lions are lioning
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Lions are lioning
Yes.They.Are.
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Lions totally fucked this up.
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27 unanswered
Lights were too bright for the Lions
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Stupid decision to run it there…
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Gamblin' Dan Campbell blew this game.
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Analytics!
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Dan Campbell buttfucked his own team. That was brutal.
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The Bears coulda done that 🤣
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Do you think the Bears in their current state could replace what the Lions are doing right now?
If you posted this in the 2nd half, then yes
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Gamblin' Dan Campbell blew this game.
Kyle Shanahan finally found someone he could outcoach
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Dan Campbell doubling down on his fuck ups today.
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Dan Campbell doubling down on his fuck ups today.
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what did he do
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Oh, I was just commenting on his "no regrests" about going for it on 4th down and losing the NFC championship in the process.
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Oh, I was just commenting on his "no regrests" about going for it on 4th down and losing the NFC championship in the process.
Or not kicking the FG early in that final drive to save time outs and not depend on recovering the on-sides.
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(http://)
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How in the fuck do you post an image on here? I've never been able to figure it out.
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How in the fuck do you post an image on here? I've never been able to figure it out.
Copy image address, then click on the "insert image" icon above, and then paste it in the middle.
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(https://lesliespeas.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/ragrets.jpg)
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Copy image address, then click on the "insert image" icon above, and then paste it in the middle.
Got it. Thanks!
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https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1751656242261463222?s=20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LR3PM3q8kg
lol
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Sayonara, Mitch.
https://sports.yahoo.com/steelers-cut-former-chicago-bears-232519800.html
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Sayonara, Mitch.
https://sports.yahoo.com/steelers-cut-former-chicago-bears-232519800.html
He just needs a better support system, it’s not his fault…
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Sayonara, Mitch.
https://sports.yahoo.com/steelers-cut-former-chicago-bears-232519800.html
bears really effed that draft up huh
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He just needs a better support system, it’s not his fault…
After like six years, I think we can say it’s his fault. Having said that Matt Nagy and the Bears did him no favors.
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The NFL was a shit product this year.
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I find it increasingly difficult to give a fuck about the NFL with each passing year. A lot of Sundays passed this fall without me ever watching a down of football. I can’t really point to any particular reason for it, it’s just not a compelling storyline for me anymore. I suppose if the Bears ever scraped together a decent team I’d probably be more invested. Pretty much down to Illini sports at this point.
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The NFL was a shit product this year.
Would agree it wasn’t a great year for quality football.
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I find it increasingly difficult to give a fuck about the NFL with each passing year. A lot of Sundays passed this fall without me ever watching a down of football. I can’t really point to any particular reason for it, it’s just not a compelling storyline for me anymore. I suppose if the Bears ever scraped together a decent team I’d probably be more invested. Pretty much down to Illini sports at this point.
The Bears should be interesting the next 2-3 years.
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AFC lost a lot of QBs to injury this year.
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I find it increasingly difficult to give a fuck about the NFL with each passing year. A lot of Sundays passed this fall without me ever watching a down of football. I can’t really point to any particular reason for it, it’s just not a compelling storyline for me anymore. I suppose if the Bears ever scraped together a decent team I’d probably be more invested. Pretty much down to Illini sports at this point.
same, I watched a few games this year but unless i can skip all the commercials by pre recording the game I usually don't even bother
I'm sure as hell not spending money on sunday ticket to watch the awful bears lol
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NHL is the only enjoyable sport to watch now but it's strictly about sports
No celebrities, no transfer, no NIL, no rule changes changing how the game is played
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Hey now, spark says the entirely-supported-by-the-patriarchy-WNBA is blowing up. You could be one of the dozens flocking to it Jasn!
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Why would college basketball with what now amounts to rental players generate significantly more enthusiasm than NFL football?
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NHL is the only enjoyable sport to watch now but it's strictly about sports
No celebrities, no transfer, no NIL, no rule changes changing how the game is played
And no blacks.
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same, I watched a few games this year but unless i can skip all the commercials by pre recording the game I usually don't even bother
I'm sure as hell not spending money on sunday ticket to watch the awful bears lol
The Bears have an excellent chance to be pretty good the next few years.
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And no blacks.
Seth Jones objects to your standard, ignorant comment.
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The Bears have an excellent chance to be pretty good the next few years.
Not if they keep Fields and Eberlose
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The Bears have an excellent chance to be pretty good the next few years.
why, is every other team not planning on improving this off season?
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Seth Jones objects to your standard, ignorant comment.
Ok, very very very few.
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why, is every other team not planning on improving this off season?
Willfully dumb comment?
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Willfully dumb comment?
I thought it was pretty poignant.
Do the Bears have opportunities to get better? Yes. Do most rational people have faith in the organization/architects of this rebuild? Not really.
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Ok, very very very few.
Joshua, who had a Gordie Howe Hat Trick last night after beating up Entwistle, objects to your usual idiotic nonsense.
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Willfully dumb comment?
Actually, it was a good comment.
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Actually, it was a good comment.
I thought so too
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Bears Super Bowl odds for next year are 30-1. Pretty low for a team that’s won 10 games in two years.
Oddsmakers have them higher than the Rams, Browns, Colts, and Buccaneers and only a little bit behind the Eagles, Dolphins, and Packers.
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Joshua, who had a Gordie Howe Hat Trick last night after beating up Entwistle, objects to your usual idiotic nonsense.
Again, very very few.
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Bears Super Bowl odds for next year are 30-1. Pretty low for a team that’s won 10 games in two years.
Oddsmakers have them higher than the Rams, Browns, Colts, and Buccaneers and only a little bit behind the Eagles, Dolphins, and Packers.
So the wise guys are betting on Caleb? Hmmm...
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Again, very very few.
Goal posts keep moving. Just like your expectations for Fields between seasons 2 and 3....
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Goal posts keep moving. Just like your expectations for Fields between seasons 2 and 3....
Hockey is infamous fo next to no black people. Keep arguing otherwise, though.
Everyone forgets Chase Claypool was supposed to be good for 60 catches and 800 yards. Getsy didn’t make a jump off his rookie year. Oline was “improved” but still not good.
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Hockey is infamous fo next to no black people. Keep arguing otherwise, though.
Everyone forgets Chase Claypool was supposed to be good for 60 catches and 800 yards. Getsy didn’t make a jump off his rookie year. Oline was “improved” but still not good.
Your back has to ache with all your goal post moving!
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The facts bear it all out. There are very few black people in hockey. Chase Claypool was an epic bust. The Bears knew Getsy sucked so he was fired. The PFF grades for the OLine are all in the “backup” range save for Tevin Jenkins who has a solid but not excellent grade.
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Willfully dumb comment?
where do you see improvement?
They are the 8th oldest team in the NFL
https://bookies.com/nfl/picks/nfl-teams-average-age
20th best according to this dork
https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-power-rankings-all-32-teams-updated-weekly/
You have a coaching staff that is one of the worst in Bears History, a QB with one of the worst records in bears history
last I checked, having lots of money won't pull good players in at a reasonable price, if your franchise is a dumpster fire
also last I checked all 32 teams have draft picks that they can use to theoretically improve their team as well
So you really see the bears office as one with an advantage when it comes to drafting? They have blown quite a few over the last decade.
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What in the fuck? The Bears are like the 3rd youngest team in the NFL.
You must not watch the Bears because the defense went from 32nd last year to top 10 this year. Arguably top 5 2nd of season.
Why such an impressive jump in SB odds if it’s clear they will suck?
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Jim Harbaugh hires Marc Trestman! Just shows ANY coach can get rehired in the NFL! Looking at you, Luke Getsy!
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where do you see improvement?
They are the 8th oldest team in the NFL
https://bookies.com/nfl/picks/nfl-teams-average-age
20th best according to this dork
https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-power-rankings-all-32-teams-updated-weekly/
You have a coaching staff that is one of the worst in Bears History, a QB with one of the worst records in bears history
last I checked, having lots of money won't pull good players in at a reasonable price, if your franchise is a dumpster fire
also last I checked all 32 teams have draft picks that they can use to theoretically improve their team as well
So you really see the bears office as one with an advantage when it comes to drafting? They have blown quite a few over the last decade.
Regarding “record.” Im guessing you missed the entire season where they literally traded away their best players and weren’t making an actual effort to win? Dont you famously brag about not watching or caring?
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The Bears as an “old team” is clearly incorrect. The only starter on the Bears over 27 is Lucas Patrick and he’s gone. Otherwise their average age has to be about 24.5 to 25. The defense isn’t any different. We’re about to cut EJ which makes them younger. We are not an old team. That is factually incorrect
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The Bears as an “old team” is clearly incorrect. The only starter on the Bears over 27 is Lucas Patrick and he’s gone. Otherwise their average age has to be about 24.5 to 25. The defense isn’t any different. We’re about to cut EJ which makes them younger. We are not an old team. That is factually incorrect
I guess the article was wrong, found another one with them as the 10th youngest https://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-nfl-teams-age-after-53-man-cutdowns-2023-edition/
Packers are the youngest team in the league and still own the Bears, are they not going to improve this off season? They have some spicy draft picks as well.
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The Bears are getting rid of all their oldest players: Ngakue, EJ, Patrick, Whitehair. Go player by player in the starting units and you’ll see that the Bears are not an old team.
The NFC North could be the best division in football next year.
And again the Bears are mid range Super Bowl team, according to the odds, despite uncertainty at the quarterback position
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The Bears will be better next year...if they dump Fields.
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The Bears will be better next year...if they dump Fields.
Sure, blame the second highest rated player on the offense by PFF for all their problems!
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Sure, blame the second highest rated player on the offense by PFF for all their problems!
The linemen would have better ratings if Fields didn't hold the ball waiting for guys to get high school open.
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The Bears are getting rid of all their oldest players: Ngakue, EJ, Patrick, Whitehair. Go player by player in the starting units and you’ll see that the Bears are not an old team.
The NFC North could be the best division in football next year.
And again the Bears are mid range Super Bowl team, according to the odds, despite uncertainty at the quarterback position
Justin Fields was ranked 23 I believe in total QBR this past year.
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His PFF rating is 74.6, 2nd highest on the offense. DJ was obviously 1st.
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23rd out of 32 NFL teams. That’s not good enough…
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23rd out of 32 NFL teams. That’s not good enough…
Neither is your posting, but we keep you.
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Neither is your posting, but we keep you.
In the famous words of one shitty poster, “kewl”
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Neither is your posting, but we keep you.
B+ though…
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I like in one thread Tempo claims to want adult conversations and then does the stuff above
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I like in one thread Tempo claims to want adult conversations and then does the stuff above
I posted that about 10 minutes after he posted:
Well you’re sucking off Fields, so what…
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Just saw that Marc Trestman is on Harbaugh's staff as a senior offensive assistant.
Nagy, Trestman, Getsy...all Bear reject coaches in the same division. Should be fun.
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Jim Harbaugh hires Marc Trestman! Just shows ANY coach can get rehired in the NFL! Looking at you, Luke Getsy!
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Why would college basketball with what now amounts to rental players generate significantly more enthusiasm than NFL football?
Noticed no one fielded this question. Lol
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Noticed no one fielded this question. Lol
Because it has leveled the playing field, as we see with all the Top 25 upsets whereas there are a ton of bad QBs who suck and the Bear suck and will continue to suck with Fields?
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Because it has leveled the playing field, as we see with all the Top 25 upsets whereas there are a ton of bad QBs who suck and the Bear suck and will continue to suck with Fields?
Has it? Looks like most of the usual characters to me.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXLzLKRX/IMG-6554.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bngbQyR)
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Has it? Looks like most of the usual characters to me.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXLzLKRX/IMG-6554.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bngbQyR)
Might want to look at the loss column and the full top 25
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Noticed no one fielded this question. Lol
Probably because it was an insincere troll attempt and it’s not like anyone is going to sway you from your sick obsession with a garbage pro football organization regardless.
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Probably because it was an insincere troll attempt and it’s not like anyone is going to sway you from your sick obsession with a garbage pro football organization regardless.
It was a serious question.
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Rams hiring Nathan Scheelhaase as their pass game coordinator. I did not know he was Iowa St's offensive coordinator.
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It was a serious question.
Even with the portal I find college basketball far more entertaining than pro football.
—Much higher volume of intriguing matchups between quality teams both overall and in conference.
—Illinois has been good the last five years with multiple All Americans.
— I have more attachment to the pageantry and *somewhat* less corporate nature of college sports.
— The NCAA tournament is the best 3 weeks in sports.
— More attachment to my alma mater, my time spent there, and the doors it has opened for me than any professional franchise could offer.
— Lots of games during the week in the winter when there isn’t much else to do.
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This is hilarious 🤣
https://x.com/nfcnorthnewss/status/1761813845666828703?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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The Shane Gillis special on Netflix is amazing. Have probably watched it 4/5 times.
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The Shane Gillis special on Netflix is amazing. Have probably watched it 4/5 times.
Yeah I enjoyed it as well.
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Davante Adams gives a ringing endorsement of Getsy 😬 sorry, Tempo. You do believe current players opinions, right?! Especially HOF caliber ones?!
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39610108/raider-gm-says-wr-davante-adams-traded
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Davante Adams gives a ringing endorsement of Getsy 😬 sorry, Tempo. You do believe current players opinions, right?! Especially HOF caliber ones?!
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39610108/raider-gm-says-wr-davante-adams-traded
Now that's a ringing endorsement.
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Now that's a ringing endorsement.
“he told ESPN during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas it was "definitely exciting" to again work with new Raiders offensive coordinator Luke Getsy, with whom he broke into the NFL in 2014 with the Green Bay Packers." He's the type of coach that's open-minded ... he's going to be open to hearing things from the veteran players that know how this thing works and the best way to do things," said Adams, who had 103 receptions last season but his lowest receiving yards per catch average (11.1) since 2015, and his fewest TD catches (8) since 2019, when he played in 12 games.
Getsy was an offensive quality control coach with the Packers in 2014 and 2015 before becoming their receivers coach in 2016 and 2017. He was Mississippi State's O.C. in 2018 and returned to Green Bay as the Packers' quarterbacks coach in 2019. He served as their quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator in 2020 and 2021 before leaving to become the Chicago Bears' offensive coordinator in 2022. He was fired by the Bears in January.
"Open-mindedness and, like I said, that innovation to the offense and a good run-pass balance," Adams said of Getsy. "And that's what I'm used to, that West Coast style. Going to be fun getting to work on a new system, [yet] something that's a little bit more familiar."”
I just wanted to spell it out here. I’m waiting in anticipation of Tempo’s response! Like a little kid looking at his first Playboy!! ☺️
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Lol wow, shilling for Getsy reeks of desperation.
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Lol wow, shilling for Getsy reeks of desperation.
Like shilling for Cowherd?
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Lol wow, shilling for Getsy reeks of desperation.
That’s Davante Adams! He’s a HOF WR!!! His word isn’t good?!
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Like shilling for Cowherd?
Who the fuck shilled for Cowherd? You are making shit up. I think Cowherd (what I even know of him) is largely a clown. But what I do know is that he’s very connected to the USC program and knows the Williams family. That’s the only reason I gave what he said more weight. You are reaching, Inspector Gadget. I’ve given Colin Cowherd 30 minutes of my life at most.
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That’s Davante Adams! He’s a HOF WR!!! His word isn’t good?!
🧌
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Tempo having a bad day with Boomer Esiason saying today that Poles should be fired if he does not take Williams.
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Tempo having a bad day with Boomer Esiason saying today that Poles should be fired if he does not take Williams.
Same guy who dove head first on Tyson Bagent taking Fields’ job. That hot take stayed interesting about 30 minutes.
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Doesn’t look too good for the Bears getting much for Fields…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39699526/sources-patriots-trade-qb-mac-jones-jaguars
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Fields is a much better player than Mac Jones.
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Fields is a much better player than Mac Jones.
Or, they both suck and are whiny bitches.
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Fields is a much better player than Mac Jones.
At running the ball, not passing it (which is what a QB is supposed to do btw). The numbers show that. I believe numerous people have shown statistical evidence on the Twitter to you to back those claims up…
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Get yours Baker Mayfield…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39702094/source-buccaneers-baker-mayfield-agree-3-year-100m-deal
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Mac had a significantly better rookie year than I remembered. He’s gotten progressively worse and was benched for a career backup. He’s broken. Unlike Fields, who isn’t broken, but getting better.
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Mac had a significantly better rookie year than I remembered. He’s gotten progressively worse and was benched for a career backup. He’s broken. Unlike Fields, who isn’t broken, but getting better.
Why is it Mac’s fault?! He too had nothing around him. Weird you vouch for Fields and make all kinds of excuses, but not Jones?! Why is that? Jones is no good (with better passing numbers btw) according to you and he has nowhere near a WR1 that Fields has or TE1.
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Mac had a significantly better rookie year than I remembered. He’s gotten progressively worse and was benched for a career backup. He’s broken. Unlike Fields, who isn’t broken, but getting better.
LOL. Jones far better than Fields in the 4th quarter. Fields blows. They are going to be lucky to trade him for a bag of footballs.
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/mac-jones-trade-return-shows-bears-might-only-have-two-bad-options-with-justin-fields/545785/?amp=1
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It’s true, Mac had even less than Fields. NE probably had the worst offensive talent in FB the last 2 years. Mac could be fine in a better situation. But he clearly regressed and was broken. Perhaps he’s fine on the right team, but I don’t see anything special there at all. I think a Mac Jones/Brock Purdy swap experiment would be interesting.
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Looks like Russell Wilson to the Steelers…
https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1767031814986571870?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
And confirmed by Wilson himself…
https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1767032101289828740?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Can't believe they want washed up Wilson over Fields in his prime!
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Can't believe they want washed up Wilson over Fields in his prime!
They clearly don't care about their running game!
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The Steelers are a good fit for Russell IMO. They get a proven winner, and they basically get him for free as Denver is paying his salary. Tomlin is probably as well equipped to manage Russ as any coach in the league.
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Can't believe they want washed up Wilson over Fields in his prime!
You’ve said this multiple times in private messages to me, but his stats from last year are extremely similar to his stats from 2013, the year the Seahawks won the Super Bowl.
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Holy shit this is funny.
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You’ve said this multiple times in private messages to me, but his stats from last year are extremely similar to his stats from 2013, the year the Seahawks won the Super Bowl.
Wait, NOW stats matter? LOL. So transparent in your selectivity. Apparently Fields' stats were not good enough for the Steeler they chose a broken down whiner over a younger whiner. Quite the blow to the Fields Cult.
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I never said stats don’t matter. But they aren’t the be all end all. But good stats are generally an indicator of good play, sure.
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Ouch. Yeah, Bears weren’t paying that…
https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1767239925072576633?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Cousins to Falcons. Even Pace picked a washed up QB over Fields. LOL.
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Cousins to Falcons. Even Pace picked a washed up QB over Fields. LOL.
I'm beginning to think the Bears might get stuck with Fields.
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I'm beginning to think the Bears might get stuck with Fields.
I am thinking they may be lucky to get the last pick in the draft for him.
The NFL certainly showing the Fields Cult what the actual market is for him. Trade him to the CFL for some poutine.
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I'm beginning to think the Bears might get stuck with Fields.
probably the plan all along, because you know the bears are experts at making the wrong decisions
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Barkley an Eagle.
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Holy shit this is funny.
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Uh, this is going to be Poles when he cannot move the Wh1n1ng QB1.
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I'm beginning to think the Bears might get stuck with Fields.
Or wait for it…never actually intended to trade him. It’s possible.
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Or wait for it…never actually intended to trade him. It’s possible.
This is your best work yet.
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I am an artist
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Barkley an Eagle.
Astute analysis, as one fine poster would say…
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Astute analysis, as one fine poster would say…
Not as astute as the Bears won’t be getting Barkley (after it’s announced he’s signed elsewhere).
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This is your best work yet.
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Not as astute as the Bears won’t be getting Barkley (after it’s announced he’s signed elsewhere).
Well considering some of us have jobs…
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Weird barb, but that has nothing to do with anything.
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Well considering some of us have jobs…
Your comment had nothing to do with “lack of knowledge or update.”
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A 2nd and 5th for Burns from the Giants. Damn I wanted the Bears to get him.
https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1767317482165936140?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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A 2nd and 5th for Burns from the Giants. Damn I wanted the Bears to get him.
https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1767317482165936140?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Too busy not shopping Fields to get another pass rusher.
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Didn’t the Panthers turn down two 1sts for Burns last year? What a clown show that organization is.
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Too costly. I’m not sure what the Bears have left, but Burns got a huge deal. Hunter is still out there, id be thrilled with him. Or maybe they draft one at 9 after trading down and taking MHJ.
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Didn’t the Panthers turn down two 1sts for Burns last year? What a clown show that organization is.
Yeah two 1st + a lot more. Terribly ran franchise. Worse than what the Bears have been even.
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Too costly. I’m not sure what the Bears have left, but Burns got a huge deal. Hunter is still out there, id be thrilled with him. Or maybe they draft one at 9 after trading down and taking MHJ.
I’m good with Hunter and think that (barring a ridiculous amount of $) will be a great signing. Gonna probably get two WR in this draft early. It’ll be interesting what they do with #1 pick. I just don’t think you can pass up on Caleb Williams if you stay at #1.
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Sounds like Hunter is not going to fit into the budget
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Sounds like Hunter is not going to fit into the budget
How? Bear have had all that cap room you've been crowing about for 2 years now.
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Word has it he could be 30 million per year. Not sure Poles will spend that on a 30 year old player. Still could use upgrades at other positions as well. I’m sort of guesstimating though, I could be wrong. Maybe he’s well within the budget. I haven’t done the math. I just read he was going to be quite expensive and Poles seems to like himself a bargain.
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From what I can surmise looks like the Bears still have about 45 million in cap money. So another big contract is doable. I just wonder if they’d spend 30 million a year on another defensive contract on a 29 year old (30 in season) player. I’m not against it, but I’d also like to see what they might do with the rest of that money. I’d still like a top notch Center.
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If they added Hunter and Connor Williams with the rest of that, I don’t think I’d have any complaints.
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Doesn't sound like they plan on adding a C in FA, does it?
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Mooney gets 3 yrs 39 million (26 guaranteed) from Atlanta. Wow, seems to me they almost had to be bidding against themselves. Did not think he’d get anything near that. I might have thought 2/10.
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Ahhhhh, forgot about the Ryan Pace factor…
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I am thinking they may be lucky to get the last pick in the draft for him.
The NFL certainly showing the Fields Cult what the actual market is for him. Trade him to the CFL for some poutine.
The idea that Fields isn’t being heavily pursued almost solidifies my belief in him more. There are enough clueless GMs out there that it makes me think I’m right. There was no market for Lamar Jackson 11 months ago, as well.
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The idea that Fields isn’t being heavily pursued almost solidifies my belief in him more. There are enough clueless GMs out there that it makes me think I’m right. There was no market for Lamar Jackson 11 months ago, as well.
The problem with Jackson was the cost, wasn't it? He wanted, and got, a good haul of cash. The problem with Fields is he stinks and idiots on Twitter think he is really good.
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Mooney gets 3 yrs 39 million (26 guaranteed) from Atlanta. Wow, seems to me they almost had to be bidding against themselves. Did not think he’d get anything near that. I might have thought 2/10.
It’s gonna be hilarious when he tears it up with Cousins for the Falcons 😂
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It’s gonna be hilarious when he tears it up with Cousins for the Falcons 😂
Hopefully he learns how to get open. And then catches it when/if he does.
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Awwwww…
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Awwwww, so close Mr. Double Clutch
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Getsy's fault. Made him run crappy routes since the QB couldn't throw guys open
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Wonder what Aaron Rodgers NFL MVP/Vice-President of United States odds are
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https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/nfl-schedule-christmas-c0aa6698
Apparently heathens are running the NFL these days.
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https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/nfl-schedule-christmas-c0aa6698
Apparently heathens are running the NFL these days.
Money hungry NFL/Roger Goodell.
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Money hungry NFL/Roger Goodell.
I'll take it over the NBA
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Always confirm a valid license/good driving record (unless they are projected top 2 and fall to 9)!
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2024/03/31/kansas-city-chiefs-rashee-rice-suspected-in-connection-with-major-accident-in-dallas/?outputType=amp
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Always confirm a valid license/good driving record (unless they are projected top 2 and fall to 9)!
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2024/03/31/kansas-city-chiefs-rashee-rice-suspected-in-connection-with-major-accident-in-dallas/?outputType=amp
"The occupants of both the Lamborghini and the Corvette all ran from the crash without stopping to see if anyone needed medical help or providing any of their information, Lowman said."
Scum of the earth behavior
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Stephon Diggs to Houston for a 2nd rounder. I see it as a win/win for both teams. Could be a huge win for Houston if Diggs decides he’s done being a distraction. Houston’s WR corps is super good.
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Start bashing Dak, Tempo! He’s a fucking dirtbag!
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39961215/lawsuit-dak-prescott-moved-different-county
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Start bashing Dak, Tempo! He’s a fucking dirtbag!
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39961215/lawsuit-dak-prescott-moved-different-county
Dak is by every account a great person, and everyone says so. He’s beloved by his teammates, coaches, and city. If a guy has one accusation, I might be willing to let the process play out. If he had multiple accusers, I’d probably be more likely to have a firm take.
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It’s interesting she’s willing to not pursue criminal charges, but instead looking for a giant payday.
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It’s interesting she’s willing to not pursue criminal charges, but instead looking for a giant payday.
If you watched the whole video with Bauer you’d see the same thing they’re trying to do. All the lawyers have dropped those women. Watch it and then tell me.
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If you watched the whole video with Bauer you’d see the same thing they’re trying to do. All the lawyers have dropped those women. Watch it and then tell me.
Trevor Bauer is evil. Dak is a good person, by twitter accounts. And probably Parkins and whoever at the score.
To be clear, I think they're all pieces of shit. I don't differentiate.
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Strange how NO ONE wanted Bauer back yet everyone on Dallas loves Dak. 🤷🏻♂️
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I’ll just leave this here…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40014799/sources-steelers-not-expected-pick-justin-fields-option
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I’ll just leave this here…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40014799/sources-steelers-not-expected-pick-justin-fields-option
That’s always been the expectation. They might try to sign him to a longer but cheaper deal. A win for both sides basically. But thanks for leaving that there.
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Or...they could cut his ass. That's another option.
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That is an option.
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Another possible option (along with cutting his ass).
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Thoughts?
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No one has none on what might happen but wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen.
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Thoughts?
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Thoughts?
No, not really. Why would the Steelers pick up that option for a qb that is currently a backup? Of course they're not going to do that.
As far as the tweet, well, Twitter is an interesting place.
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Lol
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Common sense would tell you they have at least one eye on extending him, otherwise why give up a draft pick for him? If all you wanted was a backup, they could have kept Mason Rudolph.
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Not the problem of Bear Nation at this point. Good riddance to Sh1tty QB1.
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Common sense would tell you they have at least one eye on extending him, otherwise why give up a draft pick for him? If all you wanted was a backup, they could have kept Mason Rudolph.
They gave up a 6th round pick (conditional). Let's not pretend that they gave up anything super valuable.
And it's very well known that Mason Rudolph isn't good. Plus he's a dick.
Sure, they may extend him. But they also may not. Can't argue that. It's a prove it year for him, which makes it tough from the back up spot.
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Teams don’t usually just give away draft picks willy nilly. Even 6ths (which could be a 4?). It’s pretty obvious that extending him is on the table. As is cutting his ass.
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Teams don’t usually just give away draft picks willy nilly. Even 6ths (which could be a 4?). It’s pretty obvious that extending him is on the table. As is cutting his ass.
Yes. I never said it wasn't. I'm just saying it wasn't a great value that they gave up. You have to admit that.
We largely agree. It's certainly possible he gets extended. Or cut. We'll see.
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Admittedly, I thought they’d pull the trigger on his option
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I’ll just leave this here…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40014799/sources-steelers-not-expected-pick-justin-fields-option
I’ll just leave this here…
https://steelersdepot.com/2024/04/dulac-believes-steelers-intend-to-sign-qb-justin-fields-to-multi-year-extension-possibly-before-season/
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I’ll just leave this here…
https://steelersdepot.com/2024/04/dulac-believes-steelers-intend-to-sign-qb-justin-fields-to-multi-year-extension-possibly-before-season/
For pennies on the dollar. He’s so good! 😂 I wish him the best!
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Claypool going to Buffalo…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40075543/bills-add-wide-receiver-chase-claypool-1-year-deal
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I’ve only seen some transcripts and a couple of clips, but the Tom Brady roast looks like it was freaking hilarious. He’s the perfect person to roast. So much greatness, but so much material to work with, too.
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It’s interesting to me after the Williams / Harrison discourse this year how many times in the last few months it’s seemed like MHJ is actually the dude Fields fans tried to paint Caleb as.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40174859/fanatics-files-suit-cardinals-wr-marvin-harrison-jr
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It’s interesting to me after the Williams / Harrison discourse this year how many times in the last few months it’s seemed like MHJ is actually the dude Fields fans tried to paint Caleb as.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40174859/fanatics-files-suit-cardinals-wr-marvin-harrison-jr
My thoughts exactly…
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Spark and Custard agreeing. Spark and Judge Judy agreeing.
It's a new world we live in.
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I’d never heard anything remotely negative about MHJ until the combine, and that was only for skipping things it’s understandable that he’d skip.
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Having said that, I’m perfectly happy with Odunze. And I always was. Trading the top pick for a haul, and drafting Odunze would have been a banner day for me. And despite what everyone thinks they know about my opinions, I’m not unhappy with where the Bears are at. But yeah, I’m disappointed Fields is gone, but I’ll get over it. I mostly have already.
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And for the record, I was never as anti-Caleb as people here would have you believe. I maintained the entire time that if Fields is gone, he’s the #1 pick. If you think you can find something here stating otherwise, good luck with that because I’m pretty sure it doesn’t exist. Yes, I thought there were some possible red flags with Caleb, but nothing that was likely to keep me from drafting him. Once Fields was traded, he was the obvious choice.
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As opposed to ThePAMan, who told me on multiple occasions he would not draft him (Williams). Lol
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I’d never heard anything remotely negative about MHJ until the combine, and that was only for skipping things it’s understandable that he’d skip.
LMFAO. Amazing.
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And for the record, I was never as anti-Caleb as people here would have you believe. I maintained the entire time that if Fields is gone, he’s the #1 pick. If you think you can find something here stating otherwise, good luck with that because I’m pretty sure it doesn’t exist. Yes, I thought there were some possible red flags with Caleb, but nothing that was likely to keep me from drafting him. Once Fields was traded, he was the obvious choice.
Nope, you were never anti-Caleb. You just thought it was reasonable to criticize him for:
1. the car he drove
2. not doing medicals at the combine (or, as you put it in the case of a different player, 'skipping things that it's understandable he'd skip').
3. crying and hugging his mom after a loss
4. a comment he made on some random dude's video
5. replying to posts about him on social media
and many others. All while arguing against any criticism or Fields' actual, on-field play.
You talked shit here ALL YEAR about Caleb. I suppose you could make the argument, though, that you weren't "anti-Caleb" because it so obviously wasn't ever about Caleb Williams at all but instead was about a weird devotion to the last QB, regardless of his on-field play.
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I gotta say, it's pretty funny to watch you now, after the fact, try to temper the arguments you made all year.
You argued vehemently every single week of this season regarding Fields' play, consistently criticized Caleb Williams over and over for stuff totally unrelated to his play, and now that we've made the easy obvious decision regarding those guys are trying to frame the arguments you were making as more logical than they were. We all saw those arguments though.
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LMFAO. Amazing.
Explain why.
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I gotta say, it's pretty funny to watch you now, after the fact, try to temper the arguments you made all year.
You argued vehemently every single week of this season regarding Fields' play, consistently criticized Caleb Williams over and over for stuff totally unrelated to his play, and now that we've made the easy obvious decision regarding those guys are trying to frame the arguments you were making as more logical than they were. We all saw those arguments though.
I mentioned possible red flags regarding Caleb. Maybe a couple of criticisms in there, but yeah, I didn’t slobber on his dick constantly so you got me there. I did note that the consistency of his numbers his career was rather impressive.
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You argued vehemently every single week of this season regarding Fields' play,
What do you mean here, specifically? I feel this is rather vague.
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Explain why.
You got pretty upset when Caleb Williams did his medicals with team doctors at his Bears visit and only did interviews at the combine. You were even upset that he'd have fun between those two events, with his medicals not submitted. He then worked out at USC's pro day, gave the Bears' his medical stuff, worked out at his visit, etc.
Marvin Harrison also didn't do his medicals with team doctors at the combine. He didn't do combine drills. He no-call, no-showed his media availability. He did not participate in OSU's pro day. When Caleb Williams told the Bears he'd do their medical exam at their scheduled visit you treated that as a red flag, one worth complaining about on Twitter enough to get mocked by Bears media folks, criticized him for going to that golf tournament, etc. When Marvin Harrison told teams he'd do his medicals at their visits, and then no-call/no-showed his media availability and skipped his college's pro day, you said it was 'understandable' that he'd skip those things.
Really, end of the day, this - like all of your constant complaints about Williams all year - was actually about Justin Fields. You are extremely worried about a bad attitude from Fields' replacement, but the other potential pick who wouldn't have replaced Fields did the same thing to a larger degree and you called it "understandable".
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I mentioned possible red flags regarding Caleb. Maybe a couple of criticisms in there, but yeah, I didn’t slobber on his dick constantly so you got me there. I did note that the consistency of his numbers his career was rather impressive.
No one has "constantly slobbered on his dick", but if I was you and spent months finding any stretchy criticism to levy at a kid and now I had to pretend I had been reasonable, I might beat up a similar strawman I suppose.. It's definitely funny now to watch you try to retroactively temper all the shit you talked all season.
You have been tearing the kid down for literally anything you can find to pretend to give a fuck about since like week 6 when it was clear Fields was not it. You have been extremely unfair to Caleb Williams since well before he was drafted. You roasted him for having a nice car. You roasted him for saying something on some stupid social media video. You roasted him for going to a golf tournament a couple weeks before the time he'd told the Bears they'd have his medical stuff.
I was 10000x more fair to Justin Fields than you have been to Caleb Williams, obviously. Like, it's not even a discussion.
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What do you mean here, specifically? I feel this is rather vague.
It means that you consistently and vehemently argued that Fields playing badly wasn’t that big a thing or even his fault, while also consistently ripping on Caleb for shit totally unrelated to his play like his car or that social media video.
You knew that though you’re just trying to rewrite history right now to pretend you behaved reasonably about either guy when you didn’t.
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This is fucking gold watching Tempo flail…
EVERY SINGLE WEEK HE DEFENDED FIELDS AND RIPPED WILLIAMS. ITS QUITE ASTONISHING TO SEE HIM BACKTRACKING NOW!
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This is fucking gold watching Tempo flail…
EVERY SINGLE WEEK HE DEFENDED FIELDS AND RIPPED WILLIAMS. ITS QUITE ASTONISHING TO SEE HIM BACKTRACKING NOW!
LOL
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You got pretty upset when Caleb Williams did his medicals with team doctors at his Bears visit and only did interviews at the combine. You were even upset that he'd have fun between those two events, with his medicals not submitted. He then worked out at USC's pro day, gave the Bears' his medical stuff, worked out at his visit, etc.
Marvin Harrison also didn't do his medicals with team doctors at the combine. He didn't do combine drills. He no-call, no-showed his media availability. He did not participate in OSU's pro day. When Caleb Williams told the Bears he'd do their medical exam at their scheduled visit you treated that as a red flag, one worth complaining about on Twitter enough to get mocked by Bears media folks, criticized him for going to that golf tournament, etc. When Marvin Harrison told teams he'd do his medicals at their visits, and then no-call/no-showed his media availability and skipped his college's pro day, you said it was 'understandable' that he'd skip those things.
Really, end of the day, this - like all of your constant complaints about Williams all year - was actually about Justin Fields. You are extremely worried about a bad attitude from Fields' replacement, but the other potential pick who wouldn't have replaced Fields did the same thing to a larger degree and you called it "understandable".
I was unaware that Harrison didn’t do his medicals at the combine, if that happened, that’s news to me. I knew he skipped the workouts. I wasn’t focused much on Harrison by then because it was obvious we weren’t drafting him.
“Pretty upset” that he didn’t do his medicals might be a tad of a stretch. Somewhat miffed might be a better choice of words.
Again, I’d never heard or seen anything bad about Harrison until the combine, and by then it was pretty clear we weren’t drafting him. I thought Odunze was damn near as good of a prospect, so I was perfectly happy with how it turned out.
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Spark got rather wordy so I skipped over a couple of posts. I’ll try to address them later, it’s time for me to pick up my kid from school.
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This is fucking gold watching Tempo flail…
EVERY SINGLE WEEK HE DEFENDED FIELDS AND RIPPED WILLIAMS. ITS QUITE ASTONISHING TO SEE HIM BACKTRACKING NOW!
Backtracking on what? Specifics, please. Then I’ll let you know if that comment is fair.
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No one has "constantly slobbered on his dick", but if I was you and spent months finding any stretchy criticism to levy at a kid and now I had to pretend I had been reasonable, I might beat up a similar strawman I suppose.. It's definitely funny now to watch you try to retroactively temper all the shit you talked all season.
You have been tearing the kid down for literally anything you can find to pretend to give a fuck about since like week 6 when it was clear Fields was not it. You have been extremely unfair to Caleb Williams since well before he was drafted. You roasted him for having a nice car. You roasted him for saying something on some stupid social media video. You roasted him for going to a golf tournament a couple weeks before the time he'd told the Bears they'd have his medical stuff.
I was 10000x more fair to Justin Fields than you have been to Caleb Williams, obviously. Like, it's not even a discussion.
This is just utter bullshit. I point out some possible concerns about Caleb (sparing him of several of the more mainstream ones). For me the biggest concern was the influence of his father, which so far has t reared its head as a pro. I’ve had some minor concerns about his maturity (skipping out on obligated pressers after losses and had some slight concerns over what I call rabbit ears).
As far as his play, the only thing I really poked fun at was that his perceived potential weakneses mirror Justin’s perfectly. I did get a kick out of that. I did praise him for the consistency in his college production, and I’m about 98% sure I said he’s a better natural passer than Justin, which he is. Though I thought Justin was plenty good enough. Caleb had detractors, and not all of them were Justin Fields fans. As noted, I didn’t criticize him for painted nails or crying to his mommy. That was low-hanging fruit that I didn’t go for. You have been super sensitive to any possible critique of Caleb. Particularly if it was off-field stuff. Guess what, off-field matters, too.
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I didn’t roast him for going to a golf tournament. I mentioned that I’d prefer he priority the urgent business of the franchise he is about to lead, before attending a golf tournament. Again, not deal-breaking or anything. Just didn’t care for the message it sent.
Again, you’ve lost the ability read and conprehend. I didn’t criticize him for the car, I said I’d be looking into how money has changed him (if at al). I know you don’t like scrutiny when it comes to your golden boy, but even Dave Wannstedt later said they literally hire investigators to dig on top prospects. That’s normal protocol.
I didn’t criticize him for crying to his mom, but I did think it was funny.
Yes, I don’t care for his activity on social media (when it comes to responding to his critics). He’s going to have critics, I’d rather he not worry about that. You got me on that one. *Tempo doesn’t like that Caleb responds to critics* What an unfair dude Tempo is.
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Again, I never criticized him for crying or for painting his nails. The only part of painting his nails that bothered me was the “fuck Utah” thing. I didn’t care for that. And for the 57th time, I said if Fields is gone, Caleb is the choice, and I never wavered from that. But yet somehow I’m the Caleb Williams boogie man here…
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It means that you consistently and vehemently argued that Fields playing badly wasn’t that big a thing or even his fault, while also consistently ripping on Caleb for shit totally unrelated to his play like his car or that social media video.
You knew that though you’re just trying to rewrite history right now to pretend you behaved reasonably about either guy when you didn’t.
I said many many times, Justin needed to play better and be more consistent, and yes, I also attributed some of the blame (no small part for sure) on the lack of support he received. I never once totally absolved Justin of his sometimes lackluster play.
I never ripped Caleb for his car. I said it made me curious to if there have been any changes in him since getting paid. Any scout would wonder the same. Yes, I don’t like the social media videos in which he addresses his “haters.”
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One thing is for sure, I’d like to have seen Justin get the support that Caleb will be getting.
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I know you are eagerly awaiting my comments when and if Caleb slightly misthrows a ball that gets picked in the 4th quarter. I expect you’ll be disappointed with the level of patience I expect I’ll show with him as a player.
If he’s a disaster in the attitude or off-field stuff, believe you me, I will pile on him for that. Do I think Caleb will be an off-field disaster? No. Have there been hints that’s on the table? IMO yes.
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I really hope his dad’s influence wanes as he becomes more entrenched as a professional.
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FTR, had I been in Caleb Williams’ shoes as a 21 year old; unless being that good changed me in some key ways, I would have been a disaster as a #1 pick at 21. Was I bad a kid? No. But I certainly wouldn’t have been mature enough to lead an NFL franchise, and more than likely I would have been making some questionable decisions.
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This is just utter bullshit. I point out some possible concerns about Caleb (sparing him of several of the more mainstream ones). For me the biggest concern was the influence of his father, which so far has t reared its head as a pro. I’ve had some minor concerns about his maturity (skipping out on obligated pressers after losses and had some slight concerns over what I call rabbit ears).
As far as his play, the only thing I really poked fun at was that his perceived potential weakneses mirror Justin’s perfectly. I did get a kick out of that. I did praise him for the consistency in his college production, and I’m about 98% sure I said he’s a better natural passer than Justin, which he is. Though I thought Justin was plenty good enough. Caleb had detractors, and not all of them were Justin Fields fans. As noted, I didn’t criticize him for painted nails or crying to his mommy. That was low-hanging fruit that I didn’t go for. You have been super sensitive to any possible critique of Caleb. Particularly if it was off-field stuff. Guess what, off-field matters, too.
You've pointed out dozens of wildly stretchy criticisms of him for months before he was drafted.
You've poked fun at his weaknesses mirroring Justin's perfectly, which of course was an extremely obvious tell that you had not watched the guy play because they aren't really much alike at all. That was to me the #1 way to tell that a Fields fan hadn't seen much of Caleb: calling him a smaller Fields, or saying they have the same weaknesses. They play entirely different styles.
I've been as sensitive as I would be to unfounded, stretchy critiques of any player after dealing with your insane defensiveness of Fields last year. As a reminder, you went nuts on me for complimenting Fields' teammates as if that was a denigration of the guy. The defensiveness and 'sensitivity' to any founded criticism of his play was insane, and you're now projecting that on to me as a means to make the crazy shit you talked all year seem less crazy in retrospect. But we all saw it.
I get it - now that it's Williams and Fields is gone, you're on a mission to rewrite your history in the debate to seem more reasonable. It makes sense, but it's also extremely transparent.
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I said many many times, Justin needed to play better and be more consistent, and yes, I also attributed some of the blame (no small part for sure) on the lack of support he received. I never once totally absolved Justin of his sometimes lackluster play.
I never ripped Caleb for his car. I said it made me curious to if there have been any changes in him since getting paid. Any scout would wonder the same. Yes, I don’t like the social media videos in which he addresses his “haters.”
Not once did I criticize Fields' play this year and have you respond with acknowledgement of his poor play. Not a single time. It was everyone else's fault with literal 100% consistency. We can pretend otherwise, but I also took part in those discussions and I remember how mad you got when I said "great catch by DJ" because you were more defensive of Justin Fields than I've ever seen someone be about a professional athlete.
And yes, you DID rip Caleb for having a nice car. If it makes you feel better to pretend you didn't go right ahead, but you and I and everyone else here know you made a thing of his car being too nice.
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One thing is for sure, I’d like to have seen Justin get the support that Caleb will be getting.
Williams got that support in no small part because Fields was bad in Chicago.
I'd like Caleb to walk into a situation where half the fans didn't spend the last year denigrating him for all kinds of stretchy stupid shit, but here we are.
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I know you are eagerly awaiting my comments when and if Caleb slightly misthrows a ball that gets picked in the 4th quarter. I expect you’ll be disappointed with the level of patience I expect I’ll show with him as a player.
If he’s a disaster in the attitude or off-field stuff, believe you me, I will pile on him for that. Do I think Caleb will be an off-field disaster? No. Have there been hints that’s on the table? IMO yes.
As long as you extrapolate a lot of ridiculously stupid things into made up meathead "red flags", then sure. That's stupid, but expected.
There were red flags with Fields too, even before the draft, but you treated him night-and-day differently. Odd, huh?
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Let's just say this: in the Fields and Caleb discussion, you were so far BTC that you couldn't even see the curve.
You were multiple times more dug in than I was on Trubisky, and you mocked me for YEARS for being a year late on Trubisky.
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I’m on record as saying I didn’t watch much of his tape or see much of his play. But “struggles to play on time, is better off script, and fumbles too much” is an exact description of Justin Fields. And those were widely accepted profile reports of Caleb.
What is “wildly stretchy” is how much you think I hate Caleb Williams. Will some of the things I expressed concern about not be problems? Sure, that’s probably likely. But I’ll never apologize for placing the Bears future franchise quarterback under the microscope. I’d rather be guilty of that than just naively believing he’s absolutely the hunky doriest off-field prospect ever. I’ll never apologize for poking holes into the #1 overall pick of the Bears profile.
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Let's just say this: in the Fields and Caleb discussion, you were so far BTC that you couldn't even see the curve.
You were multiple times more dug in than I was on Trubisky, and you mocked me for YEARS for being a year late on Trubisky.
I saw it enough to say that I understood why you’d move on from Justin and draft Caleb. I just didn’t agree with that decision. IMO I wanted the haul of picks (that maybe weren’t there afterall). I said over and over that Caleb is absolutely the pick if Justin is gone. I think Fields with talent and coaching upgrades and a boatload of picks was a great situation. I stand by that. IMO it was basically close to a can’t lose situation for the Bears.
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Meaning Justin (with the haul) or Caleb were both wins. I liked the security of knowing what you had in Justin Fields, bash me for that if you will.
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Did my attachment to Justin Fields add to my desire to poke holes into Caleb Williams? Most likely. But then I’m capable of being admitting my biases. Not sure others are around here.
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But again, I avoided the low-hanging fruit of “cries to mommy and paints nails.” I scrutinized actual areas I (potentially) saw concern.
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“Insane defensiveness of Fields.” This is how dug into his own take Spark has become. When some legitimate NFL minds said they’d keep Fields, and there was a huge chorus of “we want Fields!” from Bears fans after his last home game. Any opinion that differs from Spark’s is clearly “insane.”
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You've pointed out dozens of wildly stretchy criticisms of him for months before he was drafted.
You've poked fun at his weaknesses mirroring Justin's perfectly, which of course was an extremely obvious tell that you had not watched the guy play because they aren't really much alike at all. That was to me the #1 way to tell that a Fields fan hadn't seen much of Caleb: calling him a smaller Fields, or saying they have the same weaknesses. They play entirely different styles.
I've been as sensitive as I would be to unfounded, stretchy critiques of any player after dealing with your insane defensiveness of Fields last year. As a reminder, you went nuts on me for complimenting Fields' teammates as if that was a denigration of the guy. The defensiveness and 'sensitivity' to any founded criticism of his play was insane, and you're now projecting that on to me as a means to make the crazy shit you talked all year seem less crazy in retrospect. But we all saw it.
I get it - now that it's Williams and Fields is gone, you're on a mission to rewrite your history in the debate to seem more reasonable. It makes sense, but it's also extremely transparent.
“Dozens.” Lol talk about wildly stretchy.
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Williams got that support in no small part because Fields was bad in Chicago.
I'd like Caleb to walk into a situation where half the fans didn't spend the last year denigrating him for all kinds of stretchy stupid shit, but here we are.
He got that added support because what they had wasn’t good enough. For anyone…
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Not once did I criticize Fields' play this year and have you respond with acknowledgement of his poor play. Not a single time.
That’s a lie. No doubt I was eager to spread blame, but I can promise you I didn’t go an entire season without pointing out a bad play or something in that vane about Justin. Again, talk about wildly stretchy. There were plenty of times Justin made a bad play or held the ball too long. I specifically remember a back and forth with JudgeJudy where I was imploring Fields to “throw it!”
You can definitely label me a Fields apologist without stretching the truth. I own it.
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This is great.
A. Fields whines about being coached during the season. Tempo makes excuses and obfuscates for Fields in response.
B. Report appears that Bear coaches and players say that Fields was not a great locker room guy, which supports comment A above. Tempo ignores report and criticizes the number of The Twotter followers of whoever aggregated the original report and of the person posting it here.
C. Tempo now claims he never had any animus towards Williams despite being called out by name on a podcast.
Just another day at HQ2.
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You can definitely label me a Fields apologist without stretching the truth. I own it.
"Apologist" is not a strong enough....but ok.
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This is great.
A. Fields whines about being coached during the season. Tempo makes excuses and obfuscates for Fields in response.
B. Report appears that Bear coaches and players say that Fields was not a great locker room guy, which supports comment A above. Tempo ignores report and criticizes the number of The Twotter followers of whoever aggregated the original report and of the person posting it here.
C. Tempo now claims he never had any animus towards Williams despite being called out by name on a podcast.
Just another day at HQ2.
Holy shit that’s funny. And not in the ways PAMan thinks.
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Holy shit that’s funny. And not in the ways PAMan thinks.
Wut?
I will throw in some more Tempoisms: Explain. Tell me where I am wrong.....
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I’m on record as saying I didn’t watch much of his tape or see much of his play. But “struggles to play on time, is better off script, and fumbles too much” is an exact description of Justin Fields. And those were widely accepted profile reports of Caleb.
What is “wildly stretchy” is how much you think I hate Caleb Williams. Will some of the things I expressed concern about not be problems? Sure, that’s probably likely. But I’ll never apologize for placing the Bears future franchise quarterback under the microscope. I’d rather be guilty of that than just naively believing he’s absolutely the hunky doriest off-field prospect ever. I’ll never apologize for poking holes into the #1 overall pick of the Bears profile.
Anyone who says 'struggles to play on time' hasn't seen much of him. Not worried about that at all really (and, since I know you put a ton of stock into what a QB's teammates say, his teammates seem to glow about his ability to do that and anticipate!). He is notably better and more willing as a passer - keeps his eyes upfield. If there's anything I'm worried about with Caleb it's the potential to get into hero-ball mode and force throws, but that wasn't really a huge issue with Fields. Fields simply was not ever a good passer. Was far more electric with his legs than I expect Caleb to be - Caleb makes crazy escapes like Fields does, but doesn't tend to get a bunch of rush yards out of them.
I don't think you hate him. I think you've been extraordinarily unfair to him for months, but as I've said over and over that I recognize that it's not really about him. it's about the weird obsession with Fields.
LOL! Not going to apologize for putting the Bears' franchise QB under a microscope. I really, really hope that was meant to make me laugh, because if you typed that out earnestly and hit 'send', I've somehow been OVER estimating your self-awareness.
No one's asking you to apologize for that, but you just spent three years ensuring that NO criticism about the Bears' "franchise QB" ever go unchallenged or acknowledged without blaming literally anyone else in the guy's vicinity - and it wasn't stupid shit like "his car's too nice" or "he said something on social media", it was actual on-field "he is playing poorly" shit. You got angry with me when I complimented the Bears' franchise QB's top WR, because complimenting his teammate was the same as criticizing him to you. It was legitimately insane, delusional shit and now you want us all to just forget it ever happened and pretend you were totally reasonable about that.
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That’s a lie. No doubt I was eager to spread blame, but I can promise you I didn’t go an entire season without pointing out a bad play or something in that vane about Justin. Again, talk about wildly stretchy. There were plenty of times Justin made a bad play or held the ball too long. I specifically remember a back and forth with JudgeJudy where I was imploring Fields to “throw it!”
You can definitely label me a Fields apologist without stretching the truth. I own it.
I remember once, after one of the bad games, you said "he wasn't perfect today, or even Hall of Fame level". You may have said "he needs to be better" a couple times over a year. That was about as harsh as I saw you be, no matter how bad he was (and he certainly wasn't very good this year!).
And you defended him vehemently from such harsh criticisms as (after a good play, then a bad play): "that was the good and the bad of Fields on back-to-back plays", and (after DJ made an amazing catch): "Great catch by DJ".
Calling you an 'apologist' sells it short. You took great offense to things that were not even remotely construable as criticisms of Fields. You went to absurd lengths to defend things and blame literally anyone else for his play when in truth, he just played poorly. I've legit never seen a player in any sport be as teflon with some weird subset of fans as Fields was last year. Truly one of the oddest things I've ever seen in sports.
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He got that added support because what they had wasn’t good enough. For anyone…
And because they had the assets to get them, in large part because Fields was not very good.
They got Caleb and DJ because Fields led the worst team in the NFL. They got Odunze because the next year, after the Bears got him a top WR, Fields led a bottom-10 team in the NFL.
Was he the only problem on those teams? God no, of course not, but if he was a really good QB the Bears probably don't have a shot at any of those guys.
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“Dozens.” Lol talk about wildly stretchy.
Yes. Your complaints - dozens, easily - have been wildly stretchy extremely consistently.
But again, it's not really about Caleb. It's because you had an extremely odd parasocial obsession with the last guy and made defending him from any criticism, no matter how legitimate, part of your online personality in a really weird way.
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“Insane defensiveness of Fields.” This is how dug into his own take Spark has become. When some legitimate NFL minds said they’d keep Fields, and there was a huge chorus of “we want Fields!” from Bears fans after his last home game. Any opinion that differs from Spark’s is clearly “insane.”
Nope, certainly not, but if you're so defensive that you interpret someone saying "great catch from DJ" as a harsh criticism of the QB then you've obviously gone a good ways down the insanity rabbit hole.
Those fans who chanted that were hilarious. What a truly odd thing. Legit never seen anything like it in sports. Imagine people chanting "We Want Mitch!" in his last home game at Soldier Field - and Mitch actually had some success in Chicago.
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Did my attachment to Justin Fields add to my desire to poke holes into Caleb Williams? Most likely. But then I’m capable of being admitting my biases. Not sure others are around here.
You're a parody. Have to be. No one on Earth has this little self-awareness.
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But again, I avoided the low-hanging fruit of “cries to mommy and paints nails.” I scrutinized actual areas I (potentially) saw concern.
Yes, actual areas of concern like, uh, "drives too nice a car", "went to a golf tournament after telling the Bears he'd do the medical exam at their visit", "said something about haters on a social media video".
You obviously did an amazing job of 'avoiding the low-hanging fruit' and sticking to the important things, hahahahahaha
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This is great.
A. Fields whines about being coached during the season. Tempo makes excuses and obfuscates for Fields in response.
B. Report appears that Bear coaches and players say that Fields was not a great locker room guy, which supports comment A above. Tempo ignores report and criticizes the number of The Twotter followers of whoever aggregated the original report and of the person posting it here.
C. Tempo now claims he never had any animus towards Williams despite being called out by name on a podcast.
Just another day at HQ2.
A. I’ll concede there may have been more to this than I’ve been willing to acknowledge; but IMO it’s still far from an all-out damning moment for Fields. Getsy deserved to be called out at that time. He was absolutely part of the problem. I haven’t heard or talked to one person who thinks his play-calling was at all creative, inspired and not way too predictable. No one was a fan of Getsy, unless you love Darnell Mooney blocking Myles Garrett one one one on the edge; and surely Tampa won’t see that 3rd screen pass in a row coming!
B. The guy who famously calls out any and every source that he doesn’t agree with as having no credibility is now willing to lend complete credibility to some guy he’s (we’ve) never even heard of. How convenient.
C. Nice use of the Adam Hoge meme.
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The only person white-knighting for Caleb more than Spark was Adam Hoge.
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You told me on multiple occasions you “would not draft him.” So please spare me the AOTC on Caleb routine.
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The only person white-knighting for Caleb more than Spark was Adam Hoge.
It doesn't really bother me to see you say that, honestly, because your behavior this year and the current attempt you're making at shamelessly revising history in the face of that behavior have effectively nuked any credibility you may have had.
I think Caleb was the easy choice, because Fields wasn't that good and Caleb was easily the top prospect. I think criticizing his car and a video on social media and waiting to do the medical exam is stupid shit, especially after a year or two of defending the last QB from EVERY criticism, including the extremely legitimate on-field criticisms that led him to be fired and traded for a conditional sixth round draft pick to be a backup.
If that's 'white knighting', then guilty - most people just find that rational. Of course if that's "white knighting" someone, they're going to have to invent a whole new metaphor to describe the strange slobbery you've done on Fields the last couple years, no matter how bad he was. I was infinitely more fair to Fields than you've been to Williams, and the opposite is true too - you have been much more unreasonably defensive of Fields than I have of Williams, and it isn't close.
If three years from now Williams was as mediocre as Fields was, I absolutely promise you I will not do the "NO ACTUALLY DAN ORLOVSKY SAYS IT WAS EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT" thing you've done with Fields. It just won't happen, because that's really fucking weird behavior.
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Remember, I was the first person on this board to make an actual substantive criticism of Caleb Williams' game. At the time you were shit talking him constantly, and then when I posted my thoughts from having watched him play you first mocked me for having watched him play, and then admitted that despite you criticizing him pretty much weekly at that point (midway through this season) you actually hadn't watched him play.
Again, any credibility you may have had is just gone. The curve is somewhere off in the distance from where you've been the last 8-12 months.
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You told me on multiple occasions you “would not draft him.” So please spare me the AOTC on Caleb routine.
Never said I was AOTC on Williams. Was AOTC on Fields sucking and needing to get his loser ass out of Chicago.
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A. I’ll concede there may have been more to this than I’ve been willing to acknowledge; but IMO it’s still far from an all-out damning moment for Fields. Getsy deserved to be called out at that time. He was absolutely part of the problem. I haven’t heard or talked to one person who thinks his play-calling was at all creative, inspired and not way too predictable. No one was a fan of Getsy, unless you love Darnell Mooney blocking Myles Garrett one one one on the edge; and surely Tampa won’t see that 3rd screen pass in a row coming!
B. The guy who famously calls out any and every source that he doesn’t agree with as having no credibility is now willing to lend complete credibility to some guy he’s (we’ve) never even heard of. How convenient.
C. Nice use of the Adam Hoge meme.
A. Getsy had to deal with a QB who wasn't any good and didn't want to do what was necessary to get better. Tough way to have to call plays.
B. Everyone aggregating this story add that the original reporter is known for having NFL contacts. This was not an opinion piece, like the crap you post all the time, but actual reporting. You appear to fail to understand the difference. Don't worry, you are not alone given the sorry state of journalism today.
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It doesn't really bother me to see you say that, honestly, because your behavior this year and the current attempt you're making at shamelessly revising history in the face of that behavior have effectively nuked any credibility you may have had.
I think Caleb was the easy choice, because Fields wasn't that good and Caleb was easily the top prospect. I think criticizing his car and a video on social media and waiting to do the medical exam is stupid shit, especially after a year or two of defending the last QB from EVERY criticism, including the extremely legitimate on-field criticisms that led him to be fired and traded for a conditional sixth round draft pick to be a backup.
If that's 'white knighting', then guilty - most people just find that rational. Of course if that's "white knighting" someone, they're going to have to invent a whole new metaphor to describe the strange slobbery you've done on Fields the last couple years, no matter how bad he was. I was infinitely more fair to Fields than you've been to Williams, and the opposite is true too - you have been much more unreasonably defensive of Fields than I have of Williams, and it isn't close.
If three years from now Williams was as mediocre as Fields was, I absolutely promise you I will not do the "NO ACTUALLY DAN ORLOVSKY SAYS IT WAS EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT" thing you've done with Fields. It just won't happen, because that's really fucking weird behavior.
You used to try to refrain from mischaracterizing others and their comments. Clearly over the past year that’s changed. Nothing I’ve said today is untrue or fraudulent. I even admitted to having my biases.
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You couldn’t possibly place a young quarterback in a largely atrocious situation for 3 years and have it be anyone’s fault but his. That’s insane, amirite?
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Insert Mini Ditka's AOTC Artist Rendition here.
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You couldn’t possibly place a young quarterback in a largely atrocious situation for 3 years and have it be anyone’s fault but his. That’s insane, amirite?
Even if he refuses to be coached and mentored and thinks he is better than he is since he actually sucks ass?
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You used to try to refrain from mischaracterizing others and their comments. Clearly over the past year that’s changed. Nothing I’ve said today is untrue or fraudulent. I even admitted to having my biases.
You are trying to pretend that you were super reasonable this year about Fields and about Caleb Williams. That your 'character red flags' regarding Caleb's car was just a legit thing to be concerned about while Fields' actual mediocre play was just someone else's fault. But those things were silly at the time, and are still silly.
For you to try to mock me for being over-defensive of the Bears' QB is truly the deepest valley of self-awareness. Especially since, I'm (obviously) not trying to throw everyone else under the bus for his poor play; only that shit like "he drives a nice car" and "he shouldn't have waited to give let the Bears medical staff examine him" are not fair criticisms. And I have literally not one time seen someone be so irrationally over-defensive about any player in any sport as you were of Fields last year. There was nothing reasonable about how you acted re: Fields last year.
If Caleb is mediocre-to-bad his first couple years, the Bears shouldn't be scared to move on - I'm confident they won't be, since they weren't this time. But that's what I'm concerned about - can he play well? Not his Lamborghini.
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Dan orlavsky, Troy Aikman, and JT O’Sullivan are clearly idiots when it comes to football! But Spark knows! He’s the smartest guy in the room. Always!
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Dan orlavsky, Troy Aikman, and JT O’Sullivan are clearly idiots when it comes to football! But Spark knows! He’s the smartest guy in the room. Always!
Yet they all missed that Fields acted like a little bitch in the locker room.
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You couldn’t possibly place a young quarterback in a largely atrocious situation for 3 years and have it be anyone’s fault but his. That’s insane, amirite?
Ever notice how once it's clear to everyone you're badly losing an argument, you so consistently just make something like this up, pretend the person you're arguing with said it, and end your post with "amirite"?
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You are trying to pretend that you were super reasonable this year about Fields and about Caleb Williams. That your 'character red flags' regarding Caleb's car was just a legit thing to be concerned about while Fields' actual mediocre play was just someone else's fault. But those things were silly at the time, and are still silly.
For you to try to mock me for being over-defensive of the Bears' QB is truly the deepest valley of self-awareness. Especially since, I'm (obviously) not trying to throw everyone else under the bus for his poor play; only that shit like "he drives a nice car" and "he shouldn't have waited to give let the Bears medical staff examine him" are not fair criticisms. And I have literally not one time seen someone be so irrationally over-defensive about any player in any sport as you were of Fields last year. There was nothing reasonable about how you acted re: Fields last year.
If Caleb is mediocre-to-bad his first couple years, the Bears shouldn't be scared to move on - I'm confident they won't be, since they weren't this time. But that's what I'm concerned about - can he play well? Not his Lamborghini.
From my perspective I was reasonable on Fields. If someone thinks I was too protective of him, I get that argument, but I don’t really agree with it completely. Maybe I was. Again, with the fucking car and completely missing the point.
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Dan orlavsky, Troy Aikman, and JT O’Sullivan are clearly idiots when it comes to football! But Spark knows! He’s the smartest guy in the room. Always!
Yes, the Credible Trio.
You're doing the thing right now that you have been pretending I do. You're pretty openly appealing to (some pretty moderate!) authority to try and invalidate my opinion.
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From my perspective I was reasonable on Fields. If someone thinks I was too protective of him, I get that argument, but I don’t really agree with it completely. Maybe I was. Again, with the fucking car and completely missing the point.
LOL. This is great.
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From my perspective I was reasonable on Fields. If someone thinks I was too protective of him, I get that argument, but I don’t really agree with it completely. Maybe I was. Again, with the fucking car and completely missing the point.
In what way does it miss the point?
Your "red flag" is that since he got money and bought a nice car, maybe the money went to his head? Maybe he's got a huge ego, and isn't coachable, and thinks he's bigger than the team?
But the concern - the only evidence that you're using to justify that 'red flag' - is "he bought a nice car".
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Guy completely and absolutely wrong about Fields thinks he was reasonable about Fields (and Williams).
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I’m “losing this argument” because this place has four or five Fields haters and one Fields supporter. Congrats on “identifying” the dynamics of this debate. I’ve been arguing minority opinions here for 20 years. This isn’t new.
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Here's a hot Caleb/Fields take that I know Tempo will like. And let me preface this by repeating something I've said all year: there are NO "can't miss" prospects. Caleb isn't one, MHJ isn't one, Andrew Luck wasn't one. The day of the draft, no one REALLY knows. Caleb could ABSOLUTELY be mediocre or worse, no question about it. I think he has a really high ceiling, but I've obviously never seen him play any NFL football and until he does, no one really knows what the Bears have in him.
But I think if the Bears (specifically them) didn't have the first pick this year - a major-market team with a massive, passionate fanbase that's NEVER had a great QB, who recently drafted a QB who has shown flashes and highlight plays but never put it together to be an actually good quarterback with any consistency - that Caleb's "red flags" would be almost entirely a non-issue and there'd be a near-consensus that he was one of the better prospects of the last 25 years. That doesn't mean they'd be right, but I think the Fields situation definitely contributed to suddenly there being some big unmissable 'red flags' (most of which are actually non-issues) in a prospect who would've gone #1 last year if he'd been eligible and had another monster statistical season with a worse team.
The flip side of that is that if the Bears didn't have a top-5 pick this year and ONLY picked at 9, there'd definitely be a whole lot less controversy about maybe picking up Fields' Y5 option and giving him another chance with a better core before you try to draft over him next year (or the year after). Fields was mostly mediocre, not bad - and obviously, electric with his legs. Personally I would much prefer an electric arm (and I think it's telling that even like Lamar hasn't broken through in the playoffs - the best teams seem to consistently be the ones with great QBs who can sling it) - but Fields' legs are definitely a weapon and if they went into next season with DJ, Allen, Odunze, and Fields there'd be at least moderate excitement in Chicago. I am not convinced Fields would be great even with that kind of core, and I think their ceiling and situation are much much better in reality than they'd be in that "what-if".
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I’m “losing this argument” because this place has four or five Fields haters and one Fields supporter. Congrats on “identifying” the dynamics of this debate. I’ve been arguing minority opinions here for 20 years. This isn’t new.
You're not losing because you're outnumbered.
You're outnumbered because you are dug in on a losing argument.
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If I were as much of a Caleb hater as everyone says I am, you’d be able to find posts me of saying not to draft him. Once Fields was traded, I was all-in on Caleb. That’s not to say I was super enthused about everything I saw. But he was no doubt the pick, and I never said anything otherwise.
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You're not losing because you're outnumbered.
You're outnumbered because you are dug in on a losing argument.
You bet. I’m losing because JJ and PAMan are infallible in their football opinions.
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You bet. I’m losing because JJ and PAMan are infallible in their football opinions.
The only thing it's missing is "amirite?"
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The only thing it's missing is "amirite?"
Fer sure.
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If I were as much of a Caleb hater as everyone says I am, you’d be able to find posts me of saying not to draft him. Once Fields was traded, I was all-in on Caleb. That’s not to say I was super enthused about everything I saw. But he was no doubt the pick, and I never said anything otherwise.
Anyone gonna touch this? OMG, he had observations and possible critiques of Caleb Williams! HATER!
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Anyone gonna touch this? OMG, he had observations and possible critiques of Caleb Williams! HATER!
After defending the last guy from any and all criticism, no matter how valid, you have consistently pretty stretchy criticisms of his successor. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon.
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After defending the last guy from any and all criticism, no matter how valid, you have consistently pretty stretchy criticisms of his successor. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon.
I didn’t “defend him from any and all” criticism. I said there was plenty to go around (including him), and I felt he was likely to still get better. Learn to fucking read.
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Did I scrutinize Caleb intensely? Yes. Am I remorseful? No. At the end of the day my opinion or insight doesn’t make a difference.
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IIRC you once asked me to assign a percentage of the blame to Fields, and I think I put the number at 30-35%. That’s not “nothing,” and “blaming everyone but him.” He certainly played his role. But I don’t think he was the biggest problem. His problem was he wasn’t Patrick Mahomes.
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And I’d be curious to see what Patrick Mahomes would be if he’d been in the same scenario. Probably good, but not “The Goat.”
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I didn’t “defend him from any and all” criticism. I said there was plenty to go around (including him), and I felt he was likely to still get better. Learn to fucking read.
Absolute horseshit, and every single person here (including you) knows it.
Tempo, you - without exaggeration - got defensive of Fields when I said "great catch by DJ". Not only did you not accept ANY criticism of Fields, ever, from anyone else - you even created criticism of Fields out of compliments to his teammates.
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Absolute horseshit, and every single person here (including you) knows it.
Tempo, you - without exaggeration - got defensive of Fields when I said "great catch by DJ". Not only did you not accept ANY criticism of Fields, ever, from anyone else - you even created criticism of Fields out of compliments to his teammates.
Goodbye.
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Lol for PAMan.
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Spark, you’ve lost all ability to be reasonable. You’ve morphed into PAMan.
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IIRC you once asked me to assign a percentage of the blame to Fields, and I think I put the number at 30-35%. That’s not “nothing,” and “blaming everyone but him.”
This one million percent happened.
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In fact, I’d say Fields’ tenure failed in equal parts due to coaching/support, lack of talent around him, his own shortcomings.
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This one million percent happened.
I for sure one time asked you to tell me how much responsibility you thought Fields deserved for "his own personal play" and you completely avoided the question.
It was because every single time someone here criticized his own play, you immediately went to something along the lines of 'remember that one time Robert Tonyan dropped a pass'
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Goodbye.
Did you not?
When I complimented a catch one of Fields' teammates made, did you get defensive of Fields?
What about when I said "the good and the bad of Fields" after a great play and a bad play back to back - did you get super defensive of Fields for that?
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I for sure one time asked you to tell me how much responsibility you thought Fields deserved for "his own personal play" and you completely avoided the question.
I’m nearly certain that didn’t happen. I’ve always said some of Justin’s failures are on him. But you’ve taken up to mischaracterizing people’s comments; the thing you claim to hate the most.
Yes, I’m sure I’ve explained more than a handful of bad plays. And yes, Bob Tonyan also dropped a great pass that could have been the difference in the game. Both things can be true.
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Did you not?
When I complimented a catch one of Fields' teammates made, did you get defensive of Fields?
What about when I said "the good and the bad of Fields" after a great play and a bad play back to back - did you get super defensive of Fields for that?
I probably did it because you so often credited people for making plays without giving Justin proper due. Hell, you once praised a guy for dropping a Hail Mary he had in his arms as a “hell of a play just to give himself a chance.”
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Me arguing a single catch with you doesn’t negate the fact I’ve said a large handful of times “Justin needs to play better.”
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And I am damn near certain I didn’t run from your question and gave Justin somewhere around 30-35% of the blame.
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I probably did it because you so often credited people for making plays without giving Justin proper due. Hell, you once praised a guy for dropping a Hail Mary he had in his arms as a “hell of a play just to give himself a chance.”
Praised him?
No, I defended him because you and the rest of the Fields Fellatio Gang were out for blood. Because a dude made a hell of a play, reached out and grabbed a literal Hail Mary, and then dropped the catch in the end. Which of course completely exonerated Fields from any and all mistakes he made that day.
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LMAO. Gold, Jerry. Gold.
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Praised him?
No, I defended him because you and the rest of the Fields Fellatio Gang were out for blood. Because a dude made a hell of a play, reached out and grabbed a literal Hail Mary, and then dropped the catch in the end. Which of course completely exonerated Fields from any and all mistakes he made that day.
Not sure I’ve ever once heard you fault Tonyan and Scott for making key drops in that game.
Pretty sure, in fact.
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LMAO. Gold, Jerry. Gold.
Justin Fields goes 19/40 for 166 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT. He fumbles twice.
The blame goes to Darnell Mooney, who almost made a miracle play to bail Fields and the Bears out on a tipped Hail Mary but couldn't complete the play. Acknowledging that fact is 'praise'.
A perfect encapsulation of the Tempo/Fields experience. Fields plays a terrible game but it's not his fault the Bears lost, it's the fault of the dude who just barely couldn't bail Fields out.
You spend the rest of the week talking about the week some much better QB had against Cleveland.
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Not sure I’ve ever once heard you fault Tonyan and Scott for making key drops in that game.
Pretty sure, in fact.
Yes, because you exclusively read opinions that confirm your bias and let everything else slide right through the vacuous cavity in your skull. Tonyan deserved the blame for the drop, as I've said with 100% consistency from the second it happened.
And Fields deserved the blame for all the poor plays he made that day.
You agreed with one of those things, but not the other.
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Justin Fields goes 19/40 for 166 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT. He fumbles twice.
The blame goes to Darnell Mooney, who almost made a miracle play to bail Fields and the Bears out on a tipped Hail Mary but couldn't complete the play. Acknowledging that fact is 'praise'.
A perfect encapsulation of the Tempo/Fields experience. Fields plays a terrible game but it's not his fault the Bears lost, it's the fault of the dude who just barely couldn't bail Fields out.
Burrow and Purdy had much worse days in Cleveland. And played there in better weather. And probably weren’t victimized by as many key drops.
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Justin Fields probably had the best game any visiting quarterback had in Cleveland all year. They were a nightmare for opposing QBs at home.
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I love that you replied before I added the last line.
I was obviously well ahead of the curve
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Burrow and Purdy had much worse days in Cleveland. And played there in better weather. And probably weren’t victimized by as many key drops.
Sure, if you put it in a vacuum and a one-game sample size. BUT we’ve all seen the big picture with those two and Fields. I think you know the correct answer on who’s a good QB and who’s not…
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Yes, because you exclusively read opinions that confirm your bias and let everything else slide right through the vacuous cavity in your skull. Tonyan deserved the blame for the drop, as I've said with 100% consistency from the second it happened.
And Fields deserved the blame for all the poor plays he made that day.
You agreed with one of those things, but not the other.
What I don’t agree with is that mistakes from others can be forgiven, but mistakes from Fields are not forgivable.
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Overcoming a horrendous drop on a perfectly thrown 65 yard ball against a historically good defense on the road is tough to overcome for any quarterback. Any coach will tell you the wins and losses usually come down to a few plays. That’s a tough one to overcome in a tight game.
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Justin Fields probably had the best game any visiting quarterback had in Cleveland all year. They were a nightmare for opposing QBs at home.
They only played a few decent QBs. Burrows opening day. Lamar. Purdy. Trevor Lawrence.
They also got starts against them by Fields, Trevor Siemian, Kenny Pickett, Clayton Tune, Ryan Tannehill, PJ Walker, Case Keenum.
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Overcoming a horrendous drop on a perfectly thrown 65 yard ball against a historically good defense on the road is tough to overcome for any quarterback. Any coach will tell you the wins and losses usually come down to a few plays. That’s a tough one to overcome in a tight game.
You're still focusing on one play in one loss instead of the fact that Fields was mediocre at best for the large majority of the year (and his career thusfar).
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To be clear, not once have I said that that throw or the Cleveland loss is why I was ready to move on with Fields. It was a good throw and Tonyan blew it, as I've said over and over. There were many other times that Fields blew it, but those times you simply ignored or argued that they were someone else's fault. Not once have I blamed Fields for that Tonyan drop.
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What I don’t agree with is that mistakes from others can be forgiven, but mistakes from Fields are not forgivable.
Which isn't a thing that anyone said.
I've never argued in favor of Robert Tonyan. He fucked up, and deserves the consequences for that.
The problem is when people tried to criticize Fields for his mistakes, you simply would not allow it without a 10 page argument.
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They only played a few decent QBs. Burrows opening day. Lamar. Purdy. Trevor Lawrence.
They also got starts against them by Fields, Trevor Siemian, Kenny Pickett, Clayton Tune, Ryan Tannehill, PJ Walker, Case Keenum.
Yeah, and every last one of them had a miserable day there. Including the superstars.
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Which isn't a thing that anyone said.
I've never argued in favor of Robert Tonyan. He fucked up, and deserves the consequences for that.
The problem is when people tried to criticize Fields for his mistakes, you simply would not allow it without a 10 page argument.
You didn’t “say,” it. It just seemed you were quick to dismiss errors by others, but Justin’s errors were always the one’s costing them games…
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LOL. My recollection is that Cleveland had a USFL secondary that game due to injuries. The O line was similarly depleted too.
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To be clear, not once have I said that that throw or the Cleveland loss is why I was ready to move on with Fields. It was a good throw and Tonyan blew it, as I've said over and over. There were many other times that Fields blew it, but those times you simply ignored or argued that they were someone else's fault. Not once have I blamed Fields for that Tonyan drop.
Just as you ignore all the other times St. Brown, Tonyan, Smith-Marsette, Mooney, Scott, et al, or a lineman, or a coach (Flus?), or the defense blew games. I can’t ever recall you harping on St. Brown for dropping a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down to end a game. I never heard those criticisms from anyone here (that I can recall).
Flus arguably blew three games last year.
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LOL. My recollection is that Cleveland had a USFL secondary that game due to injuries. The O line was similarly depleted too.
You recollection was also that I joined the Marines after 9/11.
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That’s part of the deal with being the QB. It starts and stops with you overall.
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You recollection was also that I joined the Marines after 9/11.
My recollection was that you said that.
Cleveland had 9 million injuries that game in the secondary and O Line and your boy Fields still sucked ass, as did Eberlose's defense. Flacco had a banner day that day....remember?
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LOL!
Remember when the healthier Bear squad played a team with a USFL offensive line and safeties and was on its 4th QB for the season and the Bear still lost? I do. It was only last weekend.
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My recollection was that you said that.
Cleveland had 9 million injuries that game in the secondary and O Line and your boy Fields still sucked ass, as did Eberlose's defense. Flacco had a banner day that day....remember?
Your recollection was fucking shitty because I never in a million years said that. I joined when my buddy got called up to go to Iraq. I know when the fuck I joined, and I have no reason to lie about it.
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So now PAMan narratives count as fact. We’re screwed. Especially me.
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Your recollection was fucking shitty because I never in a million years said that. I joined when my buddy got called up to go to Iraq. I know when the fuck I joined, and I have no reason to lie about it.
You could have been drunk posting.
And I am right on the Cleveland injuries for that Bear game.
Boom! Goes the dynamite!
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So now PAMan narratives count as fact. We’re screwed. Especially me.
Gave you a post from December the week after the game.
At some point you have to be tired of being so wrong.
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Was Justin Fields the only reason we lost? Dropped passes and Flus asking a DE to cover a dynamic TE on a key down in the 4th quarter had nothing to do with it?
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Gave you a post from December the week after the game.
At some point you have to be tired of being so wrong.
USFL tackles!
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Was Justin Fields the only reason we lost? Dropped passes and Flus asking a DE to cover a dynamic TE had nothing to do with it?
Glad that your memory of the game is coming back.
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Was Justin Fields the only reason we lost? Dropped passes and Flus asking a DE to cover a dynamic TE had nothing to do with it?
The fact that Fields and Eberlose suck is why they lost. And Mooney didn't have your hands to catch that Hail Mary!
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That was also the game where Sweat was standing on the sidelines during crunch time.
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Somehow, with all those USFL players, the Browns managed to beat the Jaguars the week before, and the Texans the week after.
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That was also the game where Sweat was standing on the sidelines during crunch time.
Fields’ fault.
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Somehow, with all those USFL players, the Browns managed to beat the Jaguars the week before, and the Texans the week after.
Are you sure they were using the USFL players on the line and in the secondary during those games?
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Fields’ fault.
Should have been a leader in the locker room and convinced him to play more. The Bear were still.in the playoff hunt at that time.
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You could have been drunk posting.
And I am right on the Cleveland injuries for that Bear game.
Boom! Goes the dynamite!
I was not drunk posting. You were clearly wrong, but continued to post as if you were right. In other words, you were being you.
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Should have been a leader in the locker room and convinced him to play more. The Bear were still.in the playoff hunt at that time.
If Scott doesn’t drop a well thrown deep ball against Detroit on 3rd down late in the game, and Tonyan catches the ball against Cleveland; the Bears likely would have been playing for the division title in GB the last game of the year (with a Lions loss week 17).
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Are you sure they were using the USFL players on the line and in the secondary during those games?
It’s probably uncommon for a GREAT number of players to miss only one game then all be back.
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I was not drunk posting. You were clearly wrong, but continued to post as if you were right. In other words, you were being you.
Unfortunately we do not have the Original Cesspool to go back and see what was posted.
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FFS
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If Scott doesn’t drop a well thrown deep ball against Detroit on 3rd down late in the game, and Tonyan catches the ball against Cleveland; the Bears likely would have been playing for the division title in GB the last game of the year (with a Lions loss week 17).
Plenty of notable omissions, such as Fields' 4th quarter performance against Denver....
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It’s probably uncommon for a GREAT number of players to miss only one game then all be back.
I found proof to support my recollection. You check the Brown injury reports for the games before and after the Bear game?
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There is a zero percent chance I ever said I joined after 9/11. I was 34 fucking years old on 9/11.
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There is a zero percent chance I ever said I joined after 9/11. I was 34 fucking years old on 9/11.
Never say "never," Tempo!
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There is a zero percent chance I ever said I joined after 9/11. I was 34 fucking years old on 9/11.
You're 56?
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You're 56?
For another 33 days or so.
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Noted bad attitude Marvin Harrison Jr already causing problems.
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Darren Waller retires. Fumbled his marriage to the hot WNBA player. The music video he dropped after that...oof. Hope he doesn't take up a career in rapping.
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Darren Waller retires. Fumbled his marriage to the hot WNBA player. The music video he dropped after that...oof. Hope he doesn't take up a career in rapping.
He was one of "Chuckies'" favorites and overcame a lot of stuff. Hoping he keeps his head straight.
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RIP Tarik Cohen… 😭 though about putting on the Deuce death thread, but our guy deserves better than that…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40698858/sources-jets-tarik-cohen-ends-comeback-attempt-retires
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Jesus dude, you made me think he was actually dead.
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Jesus dude, you made me think he was actually dead.
😁
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JJ McCarthy is apparently out for the year with a meniscus tear. Sucks for the local kid.
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JJ McCarthy is apparently out for the year with a meniscus tear. Sucks for the local kid.
Bears.
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Torn meniscus? Doesn't seem like it should be a year long injury, but hey. Fuck the Vikings.
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Bears.
Bears
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I tore my meniscus and had it scoped and walked 9 5 days later. Suck it up kid
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Torn meniscus? Doesn't seem like it should be a year long injury, but hey. Fuck the Vikings.
Yeah, I thought that was like a 5-6 week deal?
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Bears
Bears.
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Nicolas Cage playing John Madden in a biopic. Not sure he would have been my first choice but he's been on quite a resurgence lately.
https://deadline.com/2024/08/nicolas-cage-plays-john-madden-in-david-o-russell-directed-madden-amazon-mgm-1236040617/
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He’s “Nicholas Fucking Cage!”
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Cue failhorn.
https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/buffalo-bills-release-pittsburgh-steelers-chase-claypool
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I was AOTC on that trade. Which you initially liked, Tempo!
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I was AOTC on that trade. Which you initially liked, Tempo!
As so often is the case, you are peddling misinformation.
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As so often is the case, you are peddling misinformation.
Projection!
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Projection!
I literally started a thread about what a piece of crap Claypool was a year before he became a Bear. It’s unlikely I liked the trade from the get-go. What did happen is that after a handful of hours thinking/listening about it, I was able to understand WHY he did the trade. I was never a big believer in Claypool myself.
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I literally started a thread about what a piece of crap Claypool was a year before he became a Bear. It’s unlikely I liked the trade from the get-go. What did happen is that after a handful of hours thinking/listening about it, I was able to understand WHY he did the trade. I was never a big believer in Claypool myself.
Ok, I'll accept that.
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I literally started a thread about what a piece of crap Claypool was a year before he became a Bear. It’s unlikely I liked the trade from the get-go. What did happen is that after a handful of hours thinking/listening about it, I was able to understand WHY he did the trade. I was never a big believer in Claypool myself.
I believe you did and I was in similar belief. F'ing Domers! Not to be trusted!
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There is no god damn way I am going to blow another football season on here with Tempo. Last year was awful enough with him. This year will be absolute misery. Which is why I'm not doing it.
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I agree
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Same
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Yeah fuck that guy
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LOL.
The problem with this is a) if Williams is good and/or b) when Fields sucks for the Steeler, you are going to miss a lot of denial on his part
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LOL.
The problem with this is a) if Williams is good and/or b) when Fields sucks for the Steeler, you are going to miss a lot of denial on his part
That's a risk I'm more than willing to take.
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This is all very normal.
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Sure.
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LOL.
The problem with this is a) if Williams is good and/or b) when Fields sucks for the Steeler, you are going to miss a lot of denial on his part
My favorite part of arguing with you guys is that you guys always reshape and redefine what I say. I’ve said all along Fields is flawed. I do think he can still get better. I think the playmaking ability is such I’d be willing to take some bad with the good. If he ever minimizes the bad, he’ll be amazing.
I’ve said all along Williams is talented and I expect him to be good, if not great. He’s a better “natural passer” than Justin, but it takes more to be great than natural passing ability. Hopefully Caleb is the next Patrick Mahomes. I’ve seen a lot to be encouraged about, but we still haven’t seen much from the pocket; which was the primary gripe here about Fields.
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Don't worry, dipshit. You ran Mn and myself off. You can chat with PA about the Bears. It should be fun for you still.
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My favorite part of arguing with you guys is that you guys always reshape and redefine what I say. I’ve said all along Fields is flawed. I do think he can still get better. I think the playmaking ability is such I’d be willing to take some bad with the good. If he ever minimizes the bad, he’ll be amazing.
I’ve said all along Williams is talented and I expect him to be good, if not great. He’s a better “natural passer” than Justin, but it takes more to be great than natural passing ability. Hopefully Caleb is the next Patrick Mahomes. I’ve seen a lot to be encouraged about, but we still haven’t seen much from the pocket; which was the primary gripe here about Fields.
Shut the fuck up.
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I ran you off? You’re still here. And acting like a lunatic.
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This is exactly why I'm gone. The revisionist history bullshit. The whole Fields dick sucking and defending the whole fucking year. Who needs this bullshit.
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To think this meltdown came about because I said Laurence Holmes doesn’t like being called Larry “because that’s not his name.”
Again, this is all very normal.
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I ran you off? You’re still here. And acting like a lunatic.
I am? Weird, I don't think so. And yes, you ran me off. I won't be on here talking football. It's just too fucking ridiculous for me.
Hey, keep up with the name calling tho. Doesn't matter. Your life sucks, so it makes you feel better to come on here and be a dick. We all get it.
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To think this meltdown came about because I said Laurence Holmes doesn’t like being called Larry “because that’s not his name.”
Again, this is all very normal.
It wasn't just that. It's just you as a person. You suck. It is what it is.
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This is exactly why I'm gone. The revisionist history bullshit. The whole Fields dick sucking and defending the whole fucking year. Who needs this bullshit.
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I can’t help it your reading is selective. I’ve said lots of times he has plenty to clean up. And yes, I’ve given him some benefit of the doubt (much even) because of the trash he was surrounded with.
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I really don't blame your ex for jetting on your ass. Probably the best decision she ever made.
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This is exactly why I'm gone. The revisionist history bullshit. The whole Fields dick sucking and defending the whole fucking year. Who needs this bullshit.
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I can’t help it your reading is selective. I’ve said lots of times he has plenty to clean up. And yes, I’ve given him some benefit of the doubt (much even) because of the trash he was surrounded with.
Nope. You defended him to the death, and wouldn't listen to anyone else. Not going through it again with you.
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I'm out. Peace.
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I really don't blame your ex for jetting on your ass. Probably the best decision she ever made.
Talking out of your ass. But that’s not unusual. I broke it off with her. And I doubt you know a fraction of what I go through.
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I'm out. Peace.
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
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Talking out of your ass. But that’s not unusual. I broke it off with her. And I doubt you know a fraction of what I go through.
You don't know what I go through either, yet you came on here and discussed our PMs and made some grand proclamations about me. So you can go fuck yourself on taking the high road or whatever.
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Don’t threaten me with a good time.
Not a threat at all.
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Pretty sure I didn’t run Mn off. I don’t think I’ve had a go with him in months. He’s been gone a few weeks.
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Maybe you should actually quote what we talked about in our private messages. I'm sure people will get a kick out of it.
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Not a threat at all.
And certainly not a promise.
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Maybe you should actually quote what we talked about in our private messages. I'm sure people will get a kick out of it.
I could. But I won’t. Just continue with your irrational meltdown.
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Pretty sure I didn’t run Mn off. I don’t think I’ve had a go with him in months. He’s been gone a few weeks.
I'm pretty sure you did. But hey, doesn't matter. He's not here. One more person gone. Soon, it will be just you. That will be fun.
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I could. But I won’t. Just continue with your irrational meltdown.
I'm not melting down. Seriously, what are you talking about?
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HQ War or wars started with this exchange:
“Laurence doesn’t like being called Larry, I can tell you that.”
“Because that’s not his name.”
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Again, have fun talking to yourself. PA will egg you on, but obviously won't take you seriously.
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I'm not melting down. Seriously, what are you talking about?
No, you’re acting very normal.
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HQ War or wars started with this exchange:
“Laurence doesn’t like being called Larry, I can tell you that.”
“Because that’s not his name.”
Yes. I realized it wasn't his name. The reason I made my post is because I was recalling him being petulant about it. You somehow had to take some kind of moral high ground about it.
Everyone knows his name isn't Larry. But then again, Larry Holmes is funny, ya know because he was a boxer. But you had to be all serious about it and shit. Like we should feel bad that Laurence was offended.
Looking back on it, shouldn't have been a big deal. And I contributed to the silliness. I'll own that part.
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Again, have fun talking to yourself. PA will egg you on, but obviously won't take you seriously.
He thinks you’re melting down, too.
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhmqVXfZ/IMG-8495.png) (https://postimg.cc/21cvn18S)
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No, you’re acting very normal.
I mean, yeah. I am actually.
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That’s the problem, I guess. You think you’re behaving normally.
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He thinks you’re melting down, too.
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhmqVXfZ/IMG-8495.png) (https://postimg.cc/21cvn18S)
Oh. I see.
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That’s the problem, I guess. You think you’re behaving normally.
Ok. I guess I don't know who my friends are after all.
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Dude, just let it go. You are overreacting bigly.
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That’s the problem, I guess. You think you’re behaving normally.
Ok. Well, I guess I apologize then. Nice to know you guys talk shit about me on text.
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Dude, just let it go. You are overreacting bigly.
Ok
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Yeah, this really kinda sucks.
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I tried to be your friend, but you’d rather have me as an enemy. That’s your prerogative, I guess. Sorry, your behavior is very bizarre over this.
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I tried to be your friend, but you’d rather have me as an enemy. That’s your prerogative, I guess. Sorry, your behavior is very bizarre over this.
I don't want enemies. I just get tired of conflict all the time. The Laurence thing pushed me over the edge for some reason. It was just more conflict than I wanted.
I acknowledge you trying to be friends. But I'm not giving people my number. I just don't do that. Thanks for your support earlier. I do appreciate it. But I don't want to be your enemy.
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As far as bizarre behavior, we went through it all last football season.
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I don’t want to be your enemy either. As you always say, this is just message board shit. As far as I know you and I don’t have major philosophical differences unlike a few others here. We’ve never really argued about anything that actually matters. Just petty shit.
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I don’t want to be your enemy either. As you always say, this is just message board shit. As far as I know you and I don’t have major philosophical differences unlike a few others here. We’ve never really argued about anything that actually matters. Just petty shit.
True.
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Man can real football just start already
everyone is so cranky
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LMAO
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Man can real football just start already
everyone is so cranky
I'm ready for football. No doubt about it.
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And FTR, I only like sucking Justin Fields’ cock.
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And FTR, I only like sucking Justin Fields’ cock.
Well, you might have picked the wrong one. But hey, if you like it, cool
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Is there a “right” one?
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Is there a “right” one?
Well, the one you were sucking didn't work out. Maybe Caleb is the right one. Maybe he's not. The only thing we know for sure is the dick you were sucking all last year is gone.
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Not really into dicks though. Except my own. It’s solid, but probably not spectacular.
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Not really into dicks though. Except my own. It’s solid, but probably not spectacular.
Thanks for the info. You should probably be more confident in your own dick tho.
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Thanks for the info. You should probably be more confident in your own dick tho.
I said it’s solid. Probably not HOF worthy, but dependable long-term starter.
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I said it’s solid. Probably not HOF worthy, but dependable long-term starter.
See, my dick is HOF worthy. And a long term starter. I get laid 2-3 times a week for a reason.
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Context matters
I didn’t roast him for going to a golf tournament. I mentioned that I’d prefer he priority the urgent business of the franchise he is about to lead, before attending a golf tournament. Again, not deal-breaking or anything. Just didn’t care for the message it sent.
Again, you’ve lost the ability read and conprehend. I didn’t criticize him for the car, I said I’d be looking into how money has changed him (if at al). I know you don’t like scrutiny when it comes to your golden boy, but even Dave Wannstedt later said they literally hire investigators to dig on top prospects. That’s normal protocol.
I didn’t criticize him for crying to his mom, but I did think it was funny.
Yes, I don’t care for his activity on social media (when it comes to responding to his critics). He’s going to have critics, I’d rather he not worry about that. You got me on that one. *Tempo doesn’t like that Caleb responds to critics* What an unfair dude Tempo is.
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Context matters
Wait. We were just talking about our cocks. Where did this come from?
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Speaking of which, I think I'm due for some pussy tonight. Been a couple days.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/RZfz2gF0/IMG-8502.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Talk about rookie character concerns…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40995225/fanatics-names-marvin-harrison-jr-father-refiled-lawsuit
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Is that Tempo's Cousin? I think he’s triple-covered. You know what? Fuck it. I’m throwing it downfield.
Yeah, I see Tempo open on the flank. But fuck that. Dumpoff passes are for faggots. I’m fucking Sexy Custard. I can get that ball in there. And, even if I can’t, I bet I’ll be able to pull it off the next go round. I like throwing the ball long. It makes my dick hard.
What’s that? I should throw a quick slant? Fuck that. That’s gay. Button hook? Gay. Flare out? Gay. Screen pass? Kevin Spacey gay. This is fucking football. You can’t just expect wins to come to you. You can’t massage that shit. You gotta grab that game by the throat and rape the ever-loving shit out of it. You think a 5-yard out is gonna win you a game? You’re a pussy. This ain’t Luke Getsy running this offense. Sexy Custard’s got the arm. The dragon. You gotta unleash the dragon.
Okay, I’m throwing it. Nice. Look how far it went. I look good. I bet I made that Pats cheerleader wet her panties with that throw. She fucking wants me. I bet she likes it over a stair railing. I can hit that with 100% accuracy, my dear. Mmmmmm. I am delicious.
Oh shit. Looks like Mn caught it. Again. Oh well. It still felt fucking great to throw that shit. Tell me that wasn’t one of the prettiest passes you ever saw. You know what? Not only am I gonna throw it long the next time we hit the field. I’m gonna throw it even longer. Harder. You see that kid in wheelchair sitting in the end zone bleachers? I’m gonna nail him right between the fucking eyes with a Custard fastball. Why? Because I can.
This is Custard we’re talking about here. We’re talking 210 lbs. of twisted steel and sex appeal. I’m not just a gunslinger. I’m a cumslinger. Throwing that ball long tells all the Custardettes that I am fucking out there. On the edge. Where I gotta be. The ladies love the danger. The unpredictability. Oh, maybe I’ll tease them with a pretty touch pass every now and again. But then I’m gonna go right back to pumping that ball out for all it’s worth. It tells them I throw like I fuck. That’s how we do things in the sexy business.
Tell me you’re not turned on right now. I am.
Bump
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Minnesota Vikings are fucking around. Never would’ve thought they’d be this good, but they’re legit.
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Tampa Bay and Baker Mayfield are for real too.
Philadelphia is overrated as fuck too.
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Sam Darnold is looking like an early frontrunner for MVP. Who had that on their bingo card for the 2024 season?
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Fields just got away with being over the LOS when he threw the ball.
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Just saw that 85 year old Flacco is in for the Colts and playing well. Should just ride him the rest of the year since Richardson is ass.
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Fields just got away with being over the LOS when he threw the ball.
OMG
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Yeah Minnesota looking like the best team in the NFL with Tampa Bay next in line.
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Random thought if the day…
What the fuck happened to Allen Robinson?! Dude literally just disappeared. He was a top WR in the game one year and then it’s like he just died.
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Going into the season I thought the Vikings were pretty easily the worst team in the division.
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Jets offense shouldn’t be this bad either…
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Better than Denver’s. Just saw Nix had -7 yards passing at one point.
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Jets offense shouldn’t be this bad either…
Looks like Rodgers needs Getsy....
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And that point is now. -7 yards passing at the half. Could always be worse, I guess.
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Random thought if the day…
What the fuck happened to Allen Robinson?! Dude literally just disappeared. He was a top WR in the game one year and then it’s like he just died.
Eventually fell victim to the Nagy poison
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Looks like Rodgers needs Getsy....
Cue Hawk Harrelson: Stretch!
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And Fields trips over his own feet and fumbles....
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Kyle Pitts has been extremely disappointing…
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And Fields trips over his own feet and fumbles....
Looked to me like he just scored a touchdown.
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Looked to me like he just scored a touchdown.
He did. That was an earlier possession.
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Pittsburgh’s alleged best defense in the league giving it up to 69 year old Joe Flacco and the lowly Colts.
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The Wingback ran for another TD
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The Wingback ran for another TD
“Fields putting the Steelers on his back!” - announcer
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Pickens very good at the past second push offs
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I almost started Justin in fantasy today. Wish I had.
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Bears win! 👏🏼
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Mooney big PI call
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Why the fuck Cousins never throws to Kyle Pitts I’ll never know.
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Why the fuck Cousins never throws to Kyle Pitts I’ll never know.
Why throw to him when you have Mooney?
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Why throw to him when you have Mooney?
I was told he sucks…
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Fields with a 300 yard passing game. There's something you rarely see.
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I was told he sucks…
Consider the source
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That Young Ho has a leg on him
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Fields fumbles snap during 2 minute drill down 3. We've all seen the rest of the movie after that. LOL
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I was told he sucks…
He certainly did his last season and a half in a Bears uniform.
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Fields fumbles snap during 2 minute drill down 3. We've all seen the rest of the movie after that. LOL
Fourth quarter Fields strikes again
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Zach Frazier was charged with that fumble fwiw.
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Fields gave them a chance to win in the 4th quarter. That snap shit has to get cleaned up, though.
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Fields with 312 yards passing, 104 rating, and 2 rushing TDs. Not bad for a guy who’ll never be an NFL quarterback.
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ARod and the Jets lose at home to a rookie QB who had -7 yards passing at the half and finished with 60.
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Fields with 312 yards passing, 104 rating, and 2 rushing TDs. Not bad for a guy who’ll never be an NFL quarterback.
Blew the game for them after the D got them back in it.
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Zach Frazier was charged with that fumble fwiw.
LOL
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Fields gave them a chance to win in the 4th quarter. That snap shit has to get cleaned up, though.
Maybe the shithead should pay attention when the ball is snapped.
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Blew the game for them after the D got them back in it.
Not sure we were watching the same game, the Pittsburgh defense gave up 10 4th quarter points in the game I saw.
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Man, this could have been a great lineup had I checked to make sure Mixon was active. SMH
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPMkNMkd/IMG-9063.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QH9YTgx8)
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I think I may have even taken Hubbard out of that lineup and put Mixon in. Hubbard had a great day.
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Not sure we were watching the same game, the Pittsburgh defense gave up 10 4th quarter points in the game I saw.
Fields had fumbled earlier in the second half and the Colt missed a FG after starting at the Steeler 42. The Steeler D got a 3 and out before Fields fumbled
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If I had Hubbard’s 25 points I’d be in about 200th place out of 396,000 lineups and going against a lot of them that have no minutes remaining.
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Fields had fumbled earlier in the second half and the Colt missed a FG after starting at the Steeler 42. The Steeler D got a 3 and out before Fields fumbled
What about the rest of the game? Doesn’t count? Steelers gave up 10 in the 4th. That’s 40 points over a game FTR.
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Ugh, thought I had a nice Brian Robinson touchdown and it was McNichols.
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Washington hasn’t punted since like week 2.
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What about the rest of the game? Doesn’t count? Steelers gave up 10 in the 4th. That’s 40 points over a game FTR.
I thought we were talking about the 2d half.
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I thought we were talking about the 2d half.
You mean the 2nd half where JF passed for like 180 yards 1 TD and ran for 2 others?
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What about the rest of the game? Doesn’t count? Steelers gave up 10 in the 4th. That’s 40 points over a game FTR.
Are you are saying Fields can only manage the game when the Steeler only give up 9 points? He cannot being them back from a deficit?
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You mean the 2nd half where JF passed for like 180 yards 1 TD and ran for 2 others?
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And turned the ball over 2x and where the Colt played prevent D, yes.
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91% to win my fantasy game, but would be 99% had I started JF2!
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And turned the ball over 2x and where the Colt played prevent D, yes.
2x? I don’t think so.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/44QqMwSW/IMG-9064.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c66Ft7Z3)
PAMan:
(https://i.postimg.cc/X72hNq3F/IMG-9065.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dLyn4qht)
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2x? I don’t think so.
The fumble he lost and then on downs when he should have been picked off but the defender just batted it down.
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So you made up the stat that he turned it over twice. Got it.
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Raiders score a rushing TD!
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As usual, it’s ALL Justin’s fault.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jxYSdXP/IMG-9066.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Admittedly, not a real high bar.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SNPGT8J7/IMG-9067.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBx8D2NB)
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So you made up the stat that he turned it over twice. Got it.
Ok, that you do not want to consider a failed 4th down attempt as a turnover is fair enough.
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As usual, it’s ALL Justin’s fault.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jxYSdXP/IMG-9066.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
LOL. Seems to always happen to Fields...what a coincidence!
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Ok, that you do not want to consider a failed 4th down attempt as a turnover is fair enough.
You got caught fibbing.
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Not sure we were watching the same game, the Pittsburgh defense gave up 10 4th quarter points in the game I saw.
They also have three wins because of their defense.
If the defense can give up less than league average (~21 points) every game, they're going to win a lot. If they can't, they probably won't. Thusfar, indications are they will likely be able to more often than not.
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They also have three wins because of their defense.
If the defense can give up less than league average (~21 points) every game, they're going to win a lot. If they can't, they probably won't. Thusfar, indications are they will likely be able to more often than not.
And if you’d been around at all lately you’d have heard me say that same thing a dozen times. I’ve said a large handful of times Fields was playing to their formula. Defense, make plays when they are there to be made, don’t hurt the team.
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You got caught fibbing.
It's a turnover. I get that it is not a fumble or interception, but it is a "turnover on downs". Nevertheless, your definition of "turnover" here is the standard.
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It's a turnover. I get that it is not a fumble or interception, but it is a "turnover on downs". Nevertheless, your definition of "turnover" here is the standard.
You got caught trying to embellish the facts.
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You got caught trying to embellish the facts.
No, it was a turnover, even if it was on downs. Hell, it would have been intercepted but for the fact it was fourth down.
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“Would have been.”
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Regardless, some like are saying it’s the best Steelers QB performance in years. Again, not a real high bar.
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“Would have been.”
The guy smartly batted it down instead of catching it. It is a turnover.
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The guy smartly batted it down instead of catching it. It is a turnover.
Except it’s not. It was a bad throw, though.
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Except it’s not. It was a bad throw, though.
It is a turnover. A turnover on downs. Plus you like to claim INTs are not INTs, but the flipside isn't true?
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Hail Marys that are intercepted aren’t the fault of the quarterback, yes. I stand by that statement.
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Hail Marys that are intercepted aren’t the fault of the quarterback, yes. I stand by that statement.
But interceptions batted down on 4th down for a turnover on downs are?
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Bills DC is Bobby Babitch. No nepotism in the coaching ranks there…
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But interceptions batted down on 4th down for a turnover on downs are?
Was not a good throw. He was under pressure as I recall. Based on what I’ve read about the game there were a lot of Steeler miscues today. Many of them not the fault of Justin Fields.
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Was not a good throw. He was under pressure as I recall. Based on what I’ve read about the game there were a lot of Steeler miscues today. Many of them not the fault of Justin Fields.
Sounds like a long-winded "yes."
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And again, it was not an interception. Unless you’re trying to create a narrative: it was a potential interception.
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But was he perfect?
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And again, it was not an interception. Unless you’re trying to create a narrative: it was a potential interception.
He had it and purposely dropped it knowing it was a turnover anyway.
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But was he perfect?
The Colt defender made the smart play on that turnover.
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He had it and purposely dropped it knowing it was a turnover anyway.
Even if true, still not an “interception,” or “turnover.” Not in the way you meant it, anyway.
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Even if true, still not an “interception,” or “turnover.” Not in the way you meant it, anyway.
I meant it the way I typed it. Again, I understand why it was confusing to someone like you. They just showed the play on NFL Network. The guy absolutely dropped the ball thrown right to him on purpose.
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Chiefs continue to win ugly. 🤮
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Josh Allen 180 yards QB rating 73.9 1 fumble. Not perfect.
Patrick Mahomes 245 yards 1 INT QB rating 89.0. Not perfect.
Justin Fields 312 yards 1 fumble 104 passer rating. Not perfect.
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So, I didn't expect the Buffalo defense to look like that last night. That was insane.
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The guy smartly batted it down instead of catching it. It is a turnover.
One of the best fake punts I ever saw, the punter just sort of "got small" while the O-line "stood up to obscure the view"
The punter sort of bent over and chucked up a hail mary style pass.
One of the "punt defenders" just ran down to the returner who was signaling fair catch and got in front of him and caught the ball, and ran into the end zone with the returner just standing there going "WTF that's interfering with a fair catch" Other possible outcomes would be the returner hitting the "defender" and thus pass interference, or someone trying to block the punt hitting the punter for roughing the passer.
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So, I didn't expect the Buffalo defense to look like that last night. That was insane.
Week to week league.
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Week to week league.
Yes. It definitely is.
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I didn’t know what to expect last night, but it wasn’t that for sure.
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Yeah, well, I didn't expect the Bills to get completely bitch slapped by Derrick Henry either, but hey. I've been wrong before.
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I played in about 7 showdown tournaments on DFS. Tried to talk myself into playing Derrick Henry in the captain spot, but ended up not playing him anywhere in any lineups. Didn’t take long before I regretted that. Ravens haven’t been good against the pass so I went with Ravens playing catchup.
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Yeah. Crazy. Oh well.
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Yes. It definitely is.
Except when the Bear are able to run the ball in the second half against the Ram.
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Except when the Bear are able to run the ball in the second half against the Ram.
Yep. Even then.
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All I know is Aaron Rodgers lost to a team with 60 yards passing.
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Sure wouldn’t mind if David Montgomery were still a Bear.
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It pains me to see the Lions no longer being the LOLions of old and the Bears still being...the same old Bears.
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I think the Bears are about to turn the corner. Whether it’s with these coaches or not, can’t say.
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Dolphins should trade for Russ. Has to be better than this.
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Carlton Davis making an ass out of himself. He mauled DK and is giving the ref hell for calling the penalty.
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Quite the play there from montgomery
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Montgomery looked like Walter on that play.
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Kenneth Walker is fucking good. Someone forgot to tell Seattle they were on their way to getting blown out.
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Kenneth Walker is fucking good. Someone forgot to tell Seattle they were on their way to getting blown out.
My wife has him on her fantasy team. She’s happy tonight.
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Quite the play there from montgomery
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAkIKXrArEw/?igsh=MTN4OGx0ZG94OHMw
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Trevor Lawrence has lost 9 in a row and some are calling for him to be Bryce Younged.
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/calls-mount-for-nfl-quarterbacks-benching-after-week-4-performance
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This is goddamned hilarious. Cant see Pierce surviving to next year.
https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/1841540287849431508?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Of course I don’t start Pitts and he already has almost 5 points…
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I started him last week and lost just because he had 0 points…
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In your defense, it’s super hard to trust him.
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He certainly wasn’t giving anyone reason to.
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And Koo my kicker literally just missed 2 FG’s in a row. Can’t make this shit up.
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Darnell Mooney is 🔥 with a good QB…
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Darnell Mooney is 🔥 with a good QB…
As the judge, ThePAMan is ineligible for the Tempo HQ2 AOTC Award. Although, the damned thing should be named after me since Tempo is BTC since The COVID.
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Then Mooney drops the ball
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Blocked FG, Judge Judy!
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I’m cursed…
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Darnell Mooney is 🔥 with a good QB…
That drop looked like the Darnell Mooney we saw the last year and a half.
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As the judge, ThePAMan is ineligible for the Tempo HQ2 AOTC Award. Although, the damned thing should be named after me since Tempo is BTC since The COVID.
If you think it all boils down to quarterback play I’ve got a bridge to sell you. Darnell Mooney was just not very good the last year and a half. That’s why the Bears let him walk.
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If you think it all boils down to quarterback play I’ve got a bridge to sell you. Darnell Mooney was just not very good the last year and a half. That’s why the Bears let him walk.
Except that the Bear are not currently looking like a good judge of WR talent. Should've kept him and drafted OL instead of Jones and Scott.
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On the probable last drive why would you go with Algier over Robinson?
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Except that the Bear are not currently looking like a good judge of WR talent. Should've kept him and drafted OL instead of Jones and Scott.
I don’t have a strong rebuttal to that.
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On the probable last drive why would you go with Algier over Robinson?
Better pass blocker?
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I don’t have a strong rebuttal to that.
Can't say I'm happy about the situation.
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Can't say I'm happy about the situation.
FTR I hated the Jones pick, and don’t remember caring much for the Scott pick, either.
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Why the fuck is Bijan not in the game for OT? Jesus fucking Christ.
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Welp. Ballgame. Tampa’s clock management on their last drive was dreadful. They earned that loss.
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Why the fuck is Bijan not in the game for OT? Jesus fucking Christ.
He does not accept Jesus as his savior, ergo Kirk Cousins does not want him in the game?
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Al Michael at least sounded a little excited.
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Dudes no one has ever heard of make plays like that for other teams.
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Dudes no one has ever heard of make plays like that for other teams.
And the Falcon are acting like they won The Super Bowl in the lockeroom.
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i got 12.6 out of Ray Ray McCloud as a desperation bye week pickup - I'll take it
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i got 12.6 out of Ray Ray McCloud as a desperation bye week pickup - I'll take it
Nothing wrong with that all. I only got 9 out of Bijan. I flirted with picking up the ATL kicker and he had 17. Wish I had, would have made up for a lackluster game from Bijan.
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The Old Sam Darnold shows up to give the Jets a shot.
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Rodgers should have taken The COVID vaccine. He sucks now
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Nico Collins is a god among men right now.
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Fuck, Nico Collins questionable to return
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Trevor Lawrence has been ass…
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Crazy how broken DeSean Watson is. Deserving for him and the Browns.
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Josh Allen is 9 for 29 with 131 yards passing. And they’re tied.
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Fairbairn's got a fucking leg.
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Bills gave themselves a chance, and blew it.
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Bungles bungled.
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Jordan Love just pulled a Will Levis vs the Bears. 🤣
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Matthew Stafford looks like the old Matthew Stafford just throwing the ball anywhere hoping for the best.
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Picked up Tucker Kraft and started him in both leagues and he’s carrying me to victory!
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I’ll give it to the Rams, they don’t know that their season is shot.
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Second coming of Tom Brady loses to
the Cardinals at home.
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Tired, could actually seen myself napping for a good chunk of this game lol.
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Weather delay?
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Yep, someone’s still bitter about the Bears getting rid of Fields…
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Yep, someone’s still bitter about the Bears getting rid of Fields…
Nope. A little bitter about the way fans treated him.
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Nope. A little bitter about the way fans treated him.
About a guy who whined about being coached and then got humbled by being traded for a 6/conditional 4?
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Robert Saleh jettisoned by the Jets.
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Robert Saleh launched by the Jets.
Getsy named head coach?
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Getsy named head coach?
Uhhhh, Hackett?
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Uhhhh, Hackett?
We all know Getsy was the man behind Rodgers
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We all know Getsy was the man behind Rodgers
We sure do.
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Interesting.
(https://i.postimg.cc/cH2smckY/IMG-9158.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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DeSean Watson is a broken MFer.
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DeSean Watson is a broken MFer.
What Cleveland did to get him might be the worst decision in NFL history…
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Jesus, my opponent in fantasy has stormed out of the gate as a big underdog.
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I’m missing Nico Collins and Kyren Williams this week.
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Have Evan Engram on my bench, drafted him to be my starter. I should have played him.
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What Cleveland did to get him might be the worst decision in NFL history…
Karma doing its job, though.
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I almost got a nice Bucky Irving TD run. Would have been a nice answer to her big start.
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Shit, I played a fair amount of Titans DST in DFS because I assumed Anthony Richardson was playing…
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Karma doing its job, though.
My thoughts exactly.
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Glad I didn’t fall the Chris Olave banana in the tailpipe. He and his -1 point are out of the game.
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Engram and Tyler Lockett were good starts left on my bench, though.
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Glad I didn’t fall the Chris Olave banana in the tailpipe. He and his -1 point are out of the game.
I started him 😔
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Worst team in the league is laying the wood to me early.
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I double dip on Daniels to McLaurin! Unreal catch by McLaurin. That’s who I wanted to trade Caleb for (and about 5 other picks!). lol
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I’m actually losing to the 8th place team, not the 10th place team 😂
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I left Deebo and Swift on my bench 😬
Both with over 20. Still predicted to win though, so hopefully it holds.
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So I made one Jordan Love DFS lineup and of course I picked the only two guys who haven’t cashed in. Wicks has left the game, and Kraft doesn’t look to be in the game plan.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Ssxqyd0W/IMG-9180.png) (https://postimg.cc/hJ6Ns9tj)
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Jesus, Bucky Irving who everyone’s been saying is on the verge of taking Rachaad White’s job gets the big opportunity with White out and some rookie is hogging all the glory. Meanwhile, my opponent is smashing all over the place.
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Derek Carr might be getting Wally Pipped by Spencer Rattler.
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I’m on pace to score 2nd most points in my league and lose by 20 lol
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McLaurin with another incredible TD catch. Baller.
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Joe Mixon saving the day for me…
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McLaurin with another incredible TD catch. Baller.
It’s like you’re somehow saying this to prop up keeping Justin Fields. You should talk about Caleb Williams more, like you do anything IDKWTI related…
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Being outscored 19 at the TE position is proving difficult to overcome. I’m gaining ground though. Need Bijan to have his breakout game.
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It’s like you’re somehow saying this to prop up keeping Justin Fields. You should talk about Caleb Williams more, like you do anything IDKWTI related…
Sounds like you’re really insecure about Caleb Williams.
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I’ve said Caleb has done about everything that could be expected of him and more. Sorry I didn’t let him finish in my throat.
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Nice “catch” Pickens!
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What happened to Harbaugh? Apparently he left the sideline?
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Damn, that Montgomery TD was a direct hit on my battleship.
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Sounds like you’re really insecure about Caleb Williams.
Nope, not at all. It’s just weird how you’re not on here doing that for Williams and he’s done miles more passing the ball. If it was Fields under center, we’d have 50 more pages of you sucking him off. That’s how we know you’re not genuine.
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Nope, not at all. It’s just weird how you’re not on here doing that for Williams and he’s done miles more passing the ball. If it was Fields under center, we’d have 50 more pages of you sucking him off. That’s how we know you’re not genuine.
I’ve literally said they made the right move by drafting him, and that he’s done about all you could ask of him and probably more. Do I have to let 6 Caleb’s bukake me before you stop fucking crying?
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I’ve literally said they made the right move by drafting him, and that he’s done about all you could ask of him and probably more. Do I have to let 6 Caleb’s bukake me before you stop fucking crying?
Why not, you did Field’s. That’s what I’m getting at. Why not the same energy of a player that’s better?
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Why not, you did Field’s. That’s what I’m getting at. Why not the same energy of a player that’s better?
I’ve said a million times Justin Fields needed to play better and was an imperfect quarterback. All I ever ever insisted was that he had dynamic playmaking ability and didn’t get a lot of good help here in Chicago. Anything more than that that you took out of those conversations is on you. All ive ever said is that I think he can flourish in a good situation. The rest is your imagination working overtime, as usual.
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Lions stealing plays from the Purdue playbook
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Bijan! I may pull this out yet.
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Basically back to a 50/50 outcome.
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FML just when I started to overtake my opponent Lions get a TD reversed and Montgomery gets the one foot dive smh
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"America's Team" getting clowned at home. Again.
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53 year old Andy Dalton flashing some mobility.
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"America's Team" getting clowned at home. Again.
Dallas is like a box of chocolates right now. Mostly stale ones.
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Crazy how Andy Dalton has looked mostly washed for the better part of the last 5 years, and he looks like a legit quarterback for a terrible team.
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Haha Jesus Christ. Even Najee Harris is having a big game. Guy hasn’t done much of shit all year. Just not my day in fantasy.
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Think my opponent is projected to beat their projections by 50+ points.
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Aiden Hutchinson hurt. Could be serious.
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Aiden Hutchinson hurt. Could be serious.
When he was falling back on the up close replay, he looked just like Corey Feldman.
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Oh fuck, his season is done 😬
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Not good when the team is surrounding you and the cart pulls up.
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Aiden Hutchinson hurt. Could be serious.
Sweat may be a top 10 DE by the end of the day
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Oh fuck, his season is done 😬
As a Bears fan, not terrible news. As a human being, and a football fan ugh…
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Commentator just described it as “gruesome.” That’s too bad. Hats to see that.
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Lion D looking top tier/Super Bowl elite/verge of elite, that's for sure
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Lion D looking top tier/Super Bowl elite/verge of elite, that's for sure
All words and phrases you made up, for sure.
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All words and phrases you borrowed from me, for sure.
Fixed again
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I should have started Fields today lol. He admittedly has not been good passing the ball today, but that Steelers offense has a ton of problems that aren’t the fault of the quarterback. Stop me if you’ve heard this story before.
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Fixed again
Feel free to pull them up and show us.
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I should have started Fields today lol. He admittedly has not been good passing the ball today, but that Steelers offense has a ton of problems that aren’t the fault of the quarterback. Stop me if you’ve heard this story before.
Yet, it is the team ge wanted to be traded to...
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I have a feeling this will turn out a lot like your claims you made in the political thread. Meaning, you won’t pull up any proof whatsoever.
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Jesus Christ, she even just got a touchdown out of Courtland Sutton who hasn’t don’t anything today (along with the entire Denver offense). And of course, the TD had to be debated by the refs lol
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Welp, undefeated season appears to be out the window. She’s on the verge up putting up the top score of the year. Exceeding her projections by probably 75% lol
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“On the verge.”
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Yet, it is the team ge wanted to be traded to...
Probably so people like Tempo will make excuses as to why he sucks! 😂 instead of… well he just sucks!
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Probably so people like Tempo will make excuses as to why he sucks! 😂 instead of… well he just sucks!
I’d like to see him in a competent system. So far that hasn’t happened.
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Yet, it is the team ge wanted to be traded to...
We’ve had this discussion already this week. What “good situation” was an alternative for him? You offered “Carolina.” A team that already had a young QB they were trying to develop (so that wasn’t really an option for him as they weren’t going to undercut Young in April) and has been called the worst franchise in the NFL.
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Probably so people like Tempo will make excuses as to why he sucks! 😂 instead of… well he just sucks!
PAMan acts like the 49ers, Packers, or Chiefs were an option.
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PAMan acts like the 49ers, Packers, or Chiefs were an option.
So you yourself is saying that he hast to go to a great team in order to be good.
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So you yourself is saying that he hast to go to a great team in order to be good.
No, but I don’t know of any great or even really good quarterbacks with no talent around them and mediocre coaching.
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I’d like to see him in a reasonably talented offense with a reasonably decent coach so we can determine just how much of it is his fault. Despite what he’s dealing with, he’s been mostly solid this year.
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Feel free to pull them up and show us.
Don’t worry, I’ll wait.
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How many people are actually paying attention to their lineups in the HQ league? Lol
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Detroit travels to Minnesota next. A chance to gain some ground on someone. Feel bad about Hutchinson.
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Never in our lifetimes (unless maybe you’re really old) have we seen the Bears’ division be the best in football.
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How does Mike McCarthy keep his job after a 47-9 massacre at home?
Oh yeah. Jerry Jones is the owner.
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As meddlesome as Jerry is, it’s hard to believe he never fires anyone.
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As meddlesome as Jerry is, it’s hard to believe he never fires anyone.
You want him to be like Trump?!
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You want him to be like Trump?!
No, I’m cool with mediocre Dallas Cowboys.
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I’d like to see him in a competent system. So far that hasn’t happened.
It's the team he wanted to be traded to, remember?
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It's the team he wanted to be traded to, remember?
Again, pinpoint me a “perfect” situation for him. He wanted to go where there was good culture and he respected the coach. There wasn’t any “perfect” landing spot for him. SF, Miami, and KC were not looking for quarterbacks.
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Graphic. Hutchison’s leg got whiplashed
https://x.com/_mlfootball/status/1845593495681069168?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Feel free to pull them up and show us.
GMAFB. You fucking said it enough when whining because Fields wasn't putting up points and being conservative on O because he sucks and the Steeler D was holding everyone under 17 points until Dallas rolled them yardage wise. At least today that got a lot of turnovers to give Fields short fields to work with.
Everyone here knows your game.
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We’ve had this discussion already this week. What “good situation” was an alternative for him? You offered “Carolina.” A team that already had a young QB they were trying to develop (so that wasn’t really an option for him as they weren’t going to undercut Young in April) and has been called the worst franchise in the NFL.
Arena League
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GMAFB. You fucking said it enough when whining because Fields wasn't putting up points and being conservative on O because he sucks and the Steeler D was holding everyone under 17 points until Dallas rolled them yardage wise. At least today that got a lot of turnovers to give Fields short fields to work with.
Everyone here knows your game.
Pretend I’m from Missouri. Show Me.
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Again, pinpoint me a “perfect” situation for him. He wanted to go where there was good culture and he respected the coach. There wasn’t any “perfect” landing spot for him. SF, Miami, and KC were not looking for quarterbacks.
LOL that KC, SF, or Miami would want a suck ass cry baby like Fields! Delusional.
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Pretend I’m from Missouri. Show Me.
I'm not playing your bullshit game anymore. It would be nice if babies like Spark and you would own your comments for fucking once.
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Again, if the Bears had given up a 4 point lead at home in the last 3 minutes you would have complained non-stop about it for days, if not weeks or months.
Everyone here knows your game.
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No, but I don’t know of any great or even really good quarterbacks with no talent around them and mediocre coaching.
More excuses for the Cult Leader. JFC it is like Fields is running North Korea.
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I'm not playing your bullshit game anymore. It would be nice if babies like Spark and you would own your comments for fucking once.
Or…you could prove even half the shit you accuse me of saying. Hell 10% of it would be epic. You can’t. You embellish the shit out of everything. And sometimes even make shit up.
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More excuses for the Cult Leader. JFC it is like Fields is running North Korea.
How many really good to great quarterbacks can you name that are surrounded by inadequate talent and mediocre coaching?
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Again, if the Bears had given up a 4 point lead at home in the last 3 minutes you would have complained non-stop about it for days, if not weeks or months.
Everyone here knows your game.
If they had given up 450 yards in the game I would been bitching about that. You comvienetly omit the D you called Elite certainly wasn't that night and needed Sh1t to actually put up points on a bad Cowboy D.
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It would be nice if babies like Spark and you would own your comments for fucking once.
This is quality irony here.
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Or…you could prove even half the shit you accuse me of saying. Hell 10% of it would be epic. You can’t. You embellish the shit out of everything. And sometimes even make shit up.
You are so full of shit. Claiming other referred to Pittsburgh as a top defense when you were right there until they got exposed.
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Again, there is a zero percent chance the Bears offense could hand the Bears defense a 4 point lead at home with 3 minutes left, have the defense blow it, and you not lose your shit about it.
Everyone here knows your game. Again, I get text messages every time the Bears defense gives up a chunk play.
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How many really good to great quarterbacks can you name that are surrounded by inadequate talent and mediocre coaching?
Fields is "good to great"? LOL. You need to get your head examined! Delusional.
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You are so full of shit. Claiming other referred to Pittsburgh as a top defense when you were right there until they got exposed.
They still are a top defense. They didn’t have a good night. I expect them not to be perfect. But I would expect my defense to hold a 4 point lead with 3 minutes left. Especially at home. And so would you if you weren’t so hypocritical.
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Again, there is a zero percent chance the Bears offense could hand the Bears defense a 4 point lead at home with 3 minutes left, have the defense blow it, and you not lose your shit about it.
Everyone here knows your game. Again, I get text messages every time the Bears defense gives up a chunk play.
Like I said, if the Bear D was giving up tons of yards, to say, Joe fucking Flacco, yeah, I would say they were way overrated by The Twotter Morons like you. Oh, yeah, that actually happened just last year.
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Fields is "good to great"? LOL. You need to get your head examined! Delusional.
I didn’t say that, either. You read poorly.
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I specifically said I’d like to see him in a better offense so we can see how much of it is him, and how much of it isn’t. He’s never been in a plus, or even neutral situation.
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They still are a top defense. They didn’t have a good night. I expect them not to be perfect. But I would expect my defense to hold a 4 point lead with 3 minutes left. Especially at home. And so would you if you weren’t so hypocritical.
As I said at the time, the only question was HOW Dallas was going to shoot itself in the foot at the end of the game. They didn't.
Why you would expect them to hold Dallas after Dallas marched up and down the field the whole game and just shot itself in the foot with turnovers? That is delusional.
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I didn’t say that, either. You read poorly.
Then why ask the question in the context of discussing Dear Leader?
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I specifically said I’d like to see him in a better offense so we can see how much of it is him, and how much of it isn’t. He’s never been in a plus, or even neutral situation.
See Trubisky, Mitch.
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I would say they were way overrated by The Twotter Morons like you. Oh, yeah, that actually happened just last year.
Of course you would, because you’re Mr. Small Sample Size. Overreacting to every chunk play and every bad half.
By the way, the defense you love to complain about hasn’t give up more than 21 points in 12 straight games.
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Of course you would, because you’re Mr. Small Sample Size. Overreacting to every chunk play and every bad half.
By the way, the defense you love to complain about hasn’t give up more than 21 points in 12 straight games.
The vaunted 2023 Bear D that got Joe Flacco another contract for this year after he had literally been sitting on his couch?
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See Trubisky, Mitch.
Also not blessed with the most talent or coaching around him. But he did have ARob and Tarik. And a historically good defense giving him great field position. Pretty sure Pittsburgh had more offensive talent when he was there 3-4 years ago. He was benched about after 6 starts. There also isn’t a GM in the league who’d take Trubisky over Fields I’m fairly certain.
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The vaunted 2023 Bear D that got Joe Flacco another contract for this year after he had literally been sitting on his couch?
Yep. The D you predicted to make the Super Bowl this year.
Everyone here knows your game.
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Yep. The D you predicted to make the Super Bowl this year.
Everyone here knows your game.
Favorable schedule. $90m DE. Deep secondary. New offense. What is not to like, except the head coach who doesn't get his team ready early in the season, the GM who is playing fantasy football and doesn't bother to build an OL and leaves the new OL to put one together on the run?
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As I said at the time, the only question was HOW Dallas was going to shoot itself in the foot at the end of the game. They didn't.
Why you would expect them to hold Dallas after Dallas marched up and down the field the whole game and just shot itself in the foot with turnovers? That is delusional.
They’re at home, and they have the guy I just heard referred to tonight as “the best player in football.” TJ Watt. I don’t expect a defense to be perfect every game or every drive, but if the offense gives you a 4 point lead late in the game at home, you need to hold it. Especially if you want to live up to your billing as “the best defense in football.”
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Favorable schedule. $90m DE. Deep secondary. New offense. What is not to like, except the head coach who doesn't get his team ready early in the season, the GM who is playing fantasy football and doesn't bother to build an OL and leaves the new OL to put one together on the run?
Again, a favorable regular season schedule is not going to propel an obviously flawed and mediocre football team to the Super Bowl. That’s preposterous. You constantly want the GM fired for incompetence, yet also predict Super Bowl. This makes zero sense whatsoever.
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They’re at home, and they have the guy I just heard referred to tonight as “the best player in football.” TJ Watt. I don’t expect a defense to be perfect every game or every drive, but if the offense gives you a 4 point lead late in the game at home, you need to hold it. Especially if you want to live up to your billing as “the best defense in football.”
You keep omitting from your analysis that Dallas chewed them up and spit them out the whole evening except when shooting itself in the foot.
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Again, a favorable regular season schedule is not going to propel an obviously flawed and mediocre football team to the Super Bowl. That’s preposterous. You constantly want the GM fired for incompetence, yet also predict Super Bowl. This makes zero sense whatsoever.
All teams are flawed. Even the good ones are actually mediocre
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You keep omitting from your analysis that Dallas chewed them up and spit them out the whole evening except when shooting itself in the foot.
Says the guy who gets worked up over every chunk play given or bad series given up on defense.
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Again, unlike you, I don’t expect even a good/outstanding defense to dominate every series, quarter, half, game. But I would expect a good/outstanding defense to make one hold when given a 4 point lead at home with 3 minutes left. Particularly when at home.
I think that’s an expectation pretty much any football fan, or even coach would have.
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That’s not to say that the offense “did its job the whole night.” Yes, you want to score more than 17. But once given a lead that late in the game, it’s not unreasonable to expect your highly touted defense to hold them for one series. It’s LITERALLY the expectation. Pittsburgh gave up two TDs in the game. Both in the 4th quarter. YOU would not find that acceptable. Unless, it happened to fit your narrative.
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Says the guy who gets worked up over every chunk play given or bad series given up on defense.
You are saying you didn't omit what occurred during the prior 58 minutes of the game from your analysis?
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That’s not to say that the offense “did its job the whole night.” Yes, you want to score more than 17. But once given a lead that late in the game, it’s not unreasonable to expect your highly touted defense to hold them for one series. It’s LITERALLY the expectation. Pittsburgh gave up two TDs in the game. Both in the 4th quarter. YOU would not find that acceptable. Unless, it happened to fit your narrative.
If you completely ignore the prior 58 minutes of the game where Dallas marched up and down the field at will, this is solid analysis. Well done.
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If you completely ignore the prior 58 minutes of the game where Dallas marched up and down the field at will, this is solid analysis. Well done.
Which the offense, gave them a reprieve for by taking a late lead. It doesn’t mean that what is supposed to be a very high quality Pittsburgh defense is helpless to stop them for one 3 minutes drive at home. You are so full of shit if you’re trying to say you wouldn’t flip your lid if this happened to the Bears.
Everyone here knows your game.
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You talk like Pittsburgh gave up 49 points to them.
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If one of your “poor performances” includes giving up 13 points the first 56.5 minutes of the game, that’s pretty darn acceptable id say.
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The role of their defense is to defend leads. They didn’t do it. Point blank.
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Which the offense, gave them a reprieve for by taking a late lead. It doesn’t mean that what is supposed to be a very high quality Pittsburgh defense is helpless to stop them for one 3 minutes drive at home. You are so full of shit if you’re trying to say you wouldn’t flip your lid if this happened to the Bears.
Everyone here knows your game.
You are actually delusional.
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You talk like Pittsburgh gave up 49 points to them.
Point out where I said that. I said Dallas kept shooting itself in the foot. 3 turnovers and a blocked kick. Dallas would have killed them but for the turnovers. Pittsburgh should have killed them but for Sh1t at QB.
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If one of your “poor performances” includes giving up 13 points the first 56.5 minutes of the game, that’s pretty darn acceptable id say.
Again ignoring what was actually happening on the field since Dallas went up and down the field and kept shooting itself in the foot.
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Again, the Bear did do it when Joe Flacco sliced and diced them in the 4th quarter. I did criticize the great Eberlose and Sweat (who wasn't in shape and couldn't be on the field), for getting sliced and diced by a guy who was sitting on his couch a week earlier. I didn't criticize them for being Elite since I didn't think there were Elite, or on the Verge of Elite, like you proclaimed.
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Point out where I said that. I said Dallas kept shooting itself in the foot. 3 turnovers and a blocked kick. Dallas would have killed them but for the turnovers. Pittsburgh should have killed them but for Sh1t at QB.
You’ve been going on and on for days about how the Steeler defense was helpless against the mighty Cowboys. Up to that point, they’d given up 13 points. The role of that defense is to defend a lead in that situation. All they had to do was prevent a touchdown.
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Point out where I said that. I said Dallas kept shooting itself in the foot. 3 turnovers and a blocked kick. Dallas would have killed them but for the turnovers. Pittsburgh should have killed them but for Sh1t at QB.
It’s funny, how in PAMan’s analysis it’s NEVER anyone’s fault but Fields’. Like literally never. Even though on social media I saw a lot of blame going around, most of it not directed at Fields.
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Again, the Bear did do it when Joe Flacco sliced and diced them in the 4th quarter. I did criticize the great Eberlose and Sweat (who wasn't in shape and couldn't be on the field), for getting sliced and diced by a guy who was sitting on his couch a week earlier. I didn't criticize them for being Elite since I didn't think there were Elite, or on the Verge of Elite, like you proclaimed.
So you criticized a defense you didn’t think was that good for giving up a lead, but not willing to assign any blame to an actual good defense for giving up a late 4 point lead? That thought process doesn’t contain any logic.
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The Steelers’ formula is literally get a lead, and have our outstanding defense defend it. That’s literally the formula they employ. It failed. It’s football. Things don’t always work out.
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You’ve been going on and on for days about how the Steeler defense was helpless against the mighty Cowboys. Up to that point, they’d given up 13 points. The role of that defense is to defend a lead in that situation. All they had to do was prevent a touchdown.
How many yards did Dallas gain that game? That last drive did not occur in a vacuum. For whatever reason, Pittsburgh could not stop Dallas. We saw Detroit do it though.
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It’s funny, how in PAMan’s analysis it’s NEVER anyone’s fault but Fields’. Like literally never. Even though on social media I saw a lot of blame going around, most of it not directed at Fields.
He is the QB. He the offense runs through him. They D had 3 turnovers and a blocked kick. Yet, they could not score more points. Shocking that The Twotter Morons who are the Fields Cult blame everyone else but him. Shocking!
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How many yards did Dallas gain that game? That last drive did not occur in a vacuum. For whatever reason, Pittsburgh could not stop Dallas. We saw Detroit do it though.
336 through the air and 109 on the ground (although only gave up 3.5 yards per carry). Again, you just read where Dallas picked on a backup and got multiple big plays out of it.
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He is the QB. He the offense runs through him. They D had 3 turnovers and a blocked kick. Yet, they could not score more points. Shocking that The Twotter Morons who are the Fields Cult blame everyone else but him. Shocking!
No opinions on the Immoral Twotter are valid! Of course, those opinions weren’t just on The Twotter.
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336 through the air and 109 on the ground (although only gave up 3.5 yards per carry). Again, you just read where Dallas picked on a backup and got multiple big plays out of it.
Uh, no, I actually watched Dallas march up and down the field and turnover the ball until the end.
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No opinions on the Immoral Twotter are valid! Of course, those opinions weren’t just on The Twotter.
The Twotter appears to be filled with idiots and bots.
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LMAO. I remain skeptical.
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LMAO. I remain skeptical.
Shocker.
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Rodgers the hail mary master.
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Rodgers the hail mary master.
According to Tempo that doesn't count as a TD pass because if it was intercepted it shouldn't count against the QB stats.
Buffalo defense neither elite nor on the verge of elite.
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Rodgers the hail mary master.
Still having a horrid year
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According to Tempo that doesn't count as a TD pass because if it was intercepted it shouldn't count against the QB stats.
Buffalo defense neither elite nor on the verge of elite.
Literally no one besides someone with an agenda thinks that a Hail Mary that gets intercepted is “the quarterback’s fault.”
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And as you so often do, you misrepresent what I said. I never said “they don’t count as interceptions.” Technically, they do. But you do raise an interesting argument…
What I said is, a Hail Mary lobbed into the end zone is exactly that. A Hail Mary. That’s a “prayer,” for those not familiar with Catholicism. No logical thinking person is going to fault the quarterback for a ball purposely chucked into a crowd.
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Davante Adams to the Jets...finally.
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Davante Adams to the Jets...finally.
Wonder if his hammy is magically better all of a sudden.
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And Amari Cooper to the Bills.
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That makes sense, actually.
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And Amari Cooper to the Bills.
Nice deal for both teams…
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so Tom Brady and Richard Sherman have just become part owners of the Raiders. And they are going to commentate on games? This doesn’t sit well with me.
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So he can’t prepare like he should or call the game like he should, but he’s going to be FOXs lead analyst…
(https://i.postimg.cc/SKRdqJRb/IMG-9223.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/B8WHBZ2m)
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Bo Nix and the elite Denver defense pounding the injury plagued Saints tonight
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Jay Cutler apparently spent the night in jail on DUI and gun possession.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/vBjk4fbk/IMG-9244.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1nGJTggr)
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I'm sure he's not worried about it. He's a huge Trump fan, and is probably betting on him getting elected, and getting pardoned.
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That mugshot is pretty awesome, actually.
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When are we going to address the fact that Mahomes has been thoroughly mediocre without superstars around him.
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Oh, look. Mahomes makes a big play with…his legs.
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Oh, look. Mahomes makes a big play with…his legs.
It's their most effective offense today.
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And Purdy with a dumbshit throw in double coverage in the endzone.
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And Purdy with a dumbshit throw in double coverage in the endzone.
Right before that he underthrew a guy for an easy TD.
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When are we going to address the fact that Mahomes has been thoroughly mediocre without superstars around him.
Obviously, I’m a trolling a bit here. But it’s undeniable there aren’t a lot of guys throwing for 300 and 3 on the regular right now. Stroud was 10 for 21 for 86 yards. Hurts threw for 114; 89 to AJ Brown.
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Obviously, I’m a trolling a bit here. But it’s undeniable there aren’t a lot of guys throwing for 300 and 3 on the regular right now. Stroud was 10 for 21 for 86 yards. Hurts threw for 114; 89 to AJ Brown.
Yes, more propaganda to prop up your obsession with JFC…
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Yes, more propaganda to prop up your obsession with JFC…
Where are my 300 yard 3 touchdown games?!
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Yes, more propaganda to prop up your obsession with JFC…
FTR, PAMan watched Fields’ All22 last week. I, did not.
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The next 3 hours should be interesting.
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FTR, PAMan watched Fields’ All22 last week. I, did not.
Because I told you I had read that the QB School guy realized after watching the film why Wilson was starting.
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Well Batman is a Steelers fan. Beat that Joker Aaron Rodgers.
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Did Russ say “Coors Light” while calling signals? Lol
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Good lord, both Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson BLOW
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#PutFieldsBackOutThere
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"Chants of bring back fields heard whispering through the crowd"
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"Chants of bring back fields heard whispering through the crowd"
But that FG drive was electrifying!
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Adams helps open this Jets offense up.
If the Steelers don’t move the ball the next two drives I feel like you have to go to Justin.
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Anyone catch that broad with huge knockers streaking the field just now?
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Pickens sure likes Wilson at QB lol
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Guess Saleh wasn’t the problem in NY. Hilarious to see the Jets flop in DeVante’s debut.
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Guess Saleh wasn’t the problem in NY. Hilarious to see the Jets flop in DeVante’s debut.
Looks like Rodgers needs Getsy....
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Looks like Rodgers needs Getsy....
Poor trolling effort here.
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Poor trolling effort here.
He hasn't been the same without Getsy.
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Niners implosion may make it affordable for a mere millionaire like myself to go to the Bears Niners game
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He hasn't been the same without Getsy.
Getsy hasn’t been the same since Fields.
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Niners implosion may make it affordable for a mere millionaire like myself to go to the Bears Niners game
No longer an illionaire with a b? Tough week in the market?
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Jets should try calling Jordy Nelson right now. See if that helps.
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Jets should try calling Jordy Nelson right now. See if that helps.
Or Mark Chmura if he has his dick out of a teenage girl.
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In all seriousness, I love it when Rodgers throws interceptions. And I also love it when his receivers drop passes. Because he gets so pissed.
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Jets should try calling Jordy Nelson right now. See if that helps.
Or bring back Zach Wilson?
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In all seriousness, I love it when Rodgers throws interceptions. And I also love it when his receivers drop passes. Because he gets so pissed.
Put this in the "Let's Talk About Something We Can All Agree Upon" thread
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Baker Mayfield seems to have remembered he’s Baker Mayfield.
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Just looked it up. Tyler Scott has played 13 snaps this year (special teams?). DeAndre Carter has played 124.
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Just looked it up. Tyler Scott has played 13 snaps this year (special teams?). DeAndre Carter has played 124.
Oops, wrong thread.
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Just had a 30 point win over ThePAMan in the fantasy league no one pays much attention to! Up to 2nd place. Judge Judy suffers his 1st loss.
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Finally cleaned up my starting lineup. Lol unwittingly left Joe Mixon and AJ Brown on the bench but won big anyway! DOMINANCE!
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Just had a 30 point win over ThePAMan in the fantasy league no one pays much attention to! Up to 2nd place. Judge Judy suffers his 1st loss.
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Fucking Daniels getting injured!
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Just had a 30 point win over ThePAMan in the fantasy league no one pays much attention to! Up to 2nd place. Judge Judy suffers his 1st loss.
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I was down like 10 points before Baker Mayfield’s garbage time glory. I thought for sure they would pull him at some point.
I’ve been trying to take it seriously the past few weeks. Two straight wins and ending Judy’s undefeated season is a good start.
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Fucking Daniels getting injured!
That buried my team in my real league.
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I was down like 10 points before Baker Mayfield’s garbage time glory. I thought for sure they would pull him at some point.
I’ve been trying to take it seriously the past few weeks. Two straight wins and ending Judy’s undefeated season is a good start.
Yeah I went to bed thinking I had it in the bag and saw Mayfield had some glorious garbage time bullshit lol.
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DeAndre Hopkins to the Chiefs for a 5th rounder
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The Vikings just got fucked. That was a clear face mask penalty…
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The Vikings just got fucked. That was a clear face mask penalty…
Such a shame
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Such a shame
I’m glad they lost, but that was still such a blatant and bullshit call. I’m just all about getting something like that right. Let them lose in a legit manner. Not on that BS.
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I’m glad they lost, but that was still such a blatant and bullshit call. I’m just all about getting something like that right. Let them lose in a legit manner. Not on that BS.
I'm glad the refs screwed them
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The Vikings just got fucked. That was a clear face mask penalty…
Yes that's an awful missed call with the ref looking right at it, but Darnold had plenty of time to get rid of it. Shit he could have taken the easy 5-7 yard dump off to the back. Anything to get out of the danger of being in your own end zone.
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I'm glad the refs screwed them
Anything that helps the Bear!
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Anything that helps the Bear!
Yes that’s why I don’t mind.
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Ravens drop a game sealing INT. On the very next play, Eddie Jackson gets scorched for the game winning TD.
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I wouldn’t have bet on it, but this game had a “Ravens don’t show up today” vibe heading into it. Hard to trust this Ravens team IMO.
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Jets are 2-6. 🤣
Still think the Robert Saleh was the problem?
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I knew I was fucking up picking up Nix over Jameis. Jameis’ projections weren’t good and I went with “the experts” and the safer play.
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I guess Bo Nix was a great choice, afterall.
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The Jets. Lol
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Jets are 2-6. 🤣
Still think the Robert Saleh was the problem?
Pretty hilarious.
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Travis Kelce remembered how to play football.
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Steelers O looks effective tonight
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Daboll = Fat Nagy
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Velus Jones signed by the Jaguars.
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I think this guy corley on the jets has negative braincells in his head
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Mooneymania. Bear could use him instead of Scott. Could also use OL depth instead of Scott and the departed Velus Jones.
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Dallas forgot to cover Mooney.
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Mooneymania. Bear could use him instead of Scott. Could also use OL depth instead of Scott and the departed Velus Jones.
Don’t forget the departed Chase Claypool that cost us the 33rd pick in the draft.
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That pick could have been Joey Porter and then Stevenson’s pick could have been used on a lineman.
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Terry McLaurin doing Terry McLaurin things. Wish he was a Bear.
Quentin Johnston was such an obvious DFS play this week (I looked at him but didn’t play him, didn’t trust Harbaugh to throw the ball). Everyone was on McConkey. That’s when you pivot.
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Raiders fire Luke Getsy
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Johnny Newton with the game-winning offsides for Washington 😬
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Russ drew him off. Fields had a nice seat on the sidelines.
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"America's Team" eating another home ass whupin'
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At least I can take solace in Cowboy tears…at least they got drubbed by a good team though.
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Lot o INTs in this Sunday night tilt
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Both QBs throwing up prayers. They weren't answered.
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Interesting…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42413540/seahawks-center-connor-williams-abruptly-retires-nfl-27
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After-effect of the Covid shot and fluoride.
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Chargers gagging like only they know how
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I learned at The BlueSkye that DeVito is now starting for the NY Football Giant! Follow me @thepaman.bsky.social!
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I learned at The BlueSkye that DeVito is now starting for the NY Football Giant! Follow me @thepaman.bsky.social!
what is blueskye is that the libtarded version of truth social?
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what is blueskye is that the libtarded version of truth social?
Yes, for all the people who are afraid of Elon Musk and his Nazi friends.
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what is blueskye is that the libtarded version of truth social?
It is for the people who don't want bots or Fields Cultists.
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Yes, for all the people who are afraid of Elon Musk and his Nazi friends.
I didn't know elon used truth social, wow! Big if true!
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It is for the people who don't want bots or Fields Cultists.
You just got rid of the best aspects of Twitter.
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You just got rid of the best aspects of Twitter.
The bots? Can't be the Fields Cultists.
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You just got rid of the best aspects of Twitter.
Up to 20 million actual people who are users today, per news reports.
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I was just scrolling randomly earlier today and saw a chick having fun with a fuck machine. So yeah, there's that.
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I was just scrolling randomly earlier today and saw a chick having fun with a fuck machine. So yeah, there's that.
Did you jerk off into the sink afterwards? That’s hot.
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Giants cutting Daniel Jones after giving him a huge contract. Terrible business practices…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42545134/giants-granting-qb-daniel-jones-request-move-on
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Giants cutting Daniel Jones after giving him a huge contract. Terrible business practices…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42545134/giants-granting-qb-daniel-jones-request-move-on
It's Danny DeVito time!
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Did you jerk off into the sink afterwards? That’s hot.
Oh man, I just saw this. Haha, no, the fuck machine girl didn't really do it for me.
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It's Danny DeVito time!
🤌🏼
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Giants cutting Daniel Jones after giving him a huge contract. Terrible business practices…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42545134/giants-granting-qb-daniel-jones-request-move-on
I think “huge contract” is a bit overblown. Yes, it’s huge to us, but by starting quarterback salaries, it’s around middle of the league. His guarantees weren’t overly massive. They took a stab on a guy who had a decent season in 2022 and it didn’t work out. It’s basically just the cost of doing business in the NFL. There are definitely worse contracts out there. DeSean Watson, anyone? Dak’s contract is killing the Cowboys.
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Is Dak better than Jones, yes. But not $140 million more guaranteed better.
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Trevor Lawrence’s contract could end up being a pretty ungood one.
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Kyler’s looked awful this time last year. Will anyone be surprised if he regresses again soon? I wouldn’t.
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Would rather take a stab on Daniel Jones than give a similar contract to low-upside Derek Carr.
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I think “huge contract” is a bit overblown. Yes, it’s huge to us, but by starting quarterback salaries, it’s around middle of the league. His guarantees weren’t overly massive. They took a stab on a guy who had a decent season in 2022 and it didn’t work out. It’s basically just the cost of doing business in the NFL. There are definitely worse contracts out there. DeSean Watson, anyone? Dak’s contract is killing the Cowboys.
Huge contract is right. He NEVER should’ve gotten that and it’s crazy a team would. Same with Watson and Dak. These GM’s are ignorant.
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Huge contract is right. He NEVER should’ve gotten that and it’s crazy a team would. Same with Watson and Dak. These GM’s are ignorant.
He came off of a good season in 2022 in which they made the playoffs. What should they have done instead? Draft Will Levis? He’s the most likely replacement for Jones. It was a contract that involved some risk, but not a ton. Dak Prescott vs Daniel Jones. If I’m an NFL owner, I know who’s contract I’d rather be on the hook for, and it ain’t Dak’s.
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The point is, yes, they got burned. But there are worse QB contracts out there, easily.
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I’d have rather rolled the dice with some risk with Jones than being in a position where Will Levis is my franchise QB.
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The point is, yes, they got burned. But there are worse QB contracts out there, easily.
I never made that argument that there weren’t…
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Oh look. Tempo's being a douchebag again.
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Oh look. Tempo's being a douchebag again.
It’s called debating football you fucking dork. We’re not allowed to debate football anymore? STFU snowflake
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The point is, yes, they got burned. But there are worse QB contracts out there, easily.
What a DOUCHEBAG comment!
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Tempo made the case that Daniel Jones’ bad contract isn’t quite as disastrous as it sounds. What a DOUCHEBAG!
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I never made that argument that there weren’t…
Never said you did. Bad quarterback contracts are sometimes just the cost of doing business. There’s maybe 6-8 “elite” quarterbacks out there (and that’s probably being generous). A majority of teams are going to have largely undesirable quarterback contracts.
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Jayden Daniels and the Commanders coming back down to earth in a pretty big way.
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What the Colts are doing with Jonathan Taylor is criminal. Anthony Richardson needs to sit. Only 3.5 FF points for Taylor today.
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What the Colts are doing with Jonathan Taylor is criminal. Anthony Richardson needs to sit. Only 3.5 FF points for Taylor today.
Anthony Richardson fucking sucks lol why they don't play Flacco is beyond crazy
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Anthony Richardson is a less productive football version of Zion Williamson.
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Chiefs survive a close one with the Panthers. Chiefs are beatable in the playoffs.
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Chiefs survive a close one with the Panthers. Chiefs are beatable in the playoffs.
Seen that movie before.
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Chiefs survive a close one with the Panthers. Chiefs are beatable in the playoffs.
They looked beatable last year's playoffs too and we saw how that turned out. Playoff Mahomes is just built different.
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Chris Jones is arguably just as valuable to them IMO. Dude just seems to make plays at crucial times.
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What a crazy ending to Wash/Dallas game. McLaurin breaks an 86 yard TD with 21 seconds left, commandos miss the extra point to tie and Dallas returns the onside kick for a TD with 14 seconds left. Wow…
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What a crazy ending to Wash/Dallas game. McLaurin breaks an 86 yard TD with 21 seconds left, commandos miss the extra point to tie and Dallas returns the onside kick for a TD with 14 seconds left. Wow…
That wasn’t even the start of the crazy.
That Dallas returner who scored with 14 seconds left needs to be ass whooped. Take a knee, game over. Instead Daniels got another shot. A long shot, but better than no shot
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That wasn’t even the start of the crazy.
That Dallas returner who scored with 14 seconds left needs to be ass whooped. Take a knee, game over. Instead Daniels got another shot. A long shot, but better than no shot
Yeah, when I was watching it, I thought “this is awesome,” but also, “what the fuck bro?”
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Matt Nagy carrying around a play-sheet is just so freaking adorable.
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It’s like a child with a toy phone.
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Chiefs are so fucking lucky
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CJ Stroud no longer looking like a 1st ballot HOFer. Or even a very good quarterback.
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CJ Stroud no longer looking like a 1st ballot HOFer. Or even a very good quarterback.
It is his second year. Give it some time.
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It is his second year. Give it some time.
Not what I was hearing Fields’ 2nd year.
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Not what I was hearing Fields’ 2nd year.
Because Fields sucked year 1 and year 2 and had gaping holes in his game that are still there.
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Damn, when did Chris Rose get fat?
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Bryce Young and the Panthers outplaying Baker and the Bucs. Glad to see Bryce is playing better. Talk about being set up to fail.
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Lamar just doesn’t show up in big games.
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If Saquon doesn’t win MVP just stop naming MVPs.
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Hopefully the Bills can put an asswhipping on SF, and Lynch and Shanahan decide to have a parting of ways at the end of the year. Then let’s get him to Chicago. Have heard he and Lynch don’t always see eye to eye.
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Bryce Young leads Panthers down the field on a probable game winning touchdown drive. 30 seconds left. Panthers up by 3.
Bad news for our 2nd rounder from them, but maybe good news for our 1st rounder? Lol
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Big chunk for Bucs on 1st down. Not over.
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McLaughlin nails 51 yarder for OT.
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Young gets the Panthers into FG range only to have Chuba Hubbard fumble. Bucs win in OT.
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Hopefully the Bills can put an asswhipping on SF, and Lynch and Shanahan decide to have a parting of ways at the end of the year. Then let’s get him to Chicago. Have heard he and Lynch don’t always see eye to eye.
Can Shanahan coach in weather? Tonight not looking like he can
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Lol
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Can Shanahan coach in weather? Tonight not looking like he can
well, with respect to the bears, the pertinent question is "Can Shanahan coach in the Super Bowl", the answer is "NO" so he would be a good fit for the bears because McCaskey and Poles would make sure that's a non issue
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Can Shanahan coach in weather? Tonight not looking like he can
If a top 5 coach becomes available, one known for maximizing the quarterback position no less; don’t think I’d be disqualifying him because “he had a bad night in the snow.”
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If a top 5 coach becomes available, one known for maximizing the quarterback position no less; don’t think I’d be disqualifying him because “he had a bad night in the snow.”
We need a coach who can coach in weather conditions and not just in NoCal or a dome!
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We need a coach who can coach in weather conditions and not just in NoCal or a dome!
like Bret Bielema?
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like Bret Bielema?
Yes, he should be the next Bear coach
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We need a coach who can coach in weather conditions and not just in NoCal or a dome!
He’s always got a strong run game. Thinking it would be fine.
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He’s always got a strong run game. Thinking it would be fine.
Really think he wants to deal with this OL and Poles? Not to mention Warren and McCaskeys?
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Quite the exciting MNF game tonight
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Really think he wants to deal with this OL and Poles? Not to mention Warren and McCaskeys?
I don't know. Wouldn't hurt to reach out...
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Shoot him a text. I'm sure he would be flattered.
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I didn't see that coming.
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Shoot him a text. I'm sure he would be flattered.
I called the play for you, all you had to do.was not drop it, Good job on not dropping it. Had you pegged as the most likely to catch it, as you loved that meme. But then, you love them all.
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Low hanging fruit is still tasty
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I didn't see that coming.
Guessing that’s sarcasm.
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Anthony Richardson is a less productive football version of Zion Williamson.
That's actually a very good comparison.
Did you get that from the Score or from Cowherd?
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Guessing that’s sarcasm.
Ya think?
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Ya think?
He was right tho.
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That's actually a very good comparison.
Did you get that from the Score or from Cowherd?
I got it from when I pulled my dick out of your ass (along with some shit, but that’s the price you sometimes pay to play).
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Yeesh. That's kinda gross, Tempo.
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Then wipe your ass better.
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Good point. Maybe I'll pick up some of those dude wipes or whatever.
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Broncos. Awesome.
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What a bunch of douches the NFL putting six teams on bye in week 14.
Maybe they are all in on gambling and daily fantasy, but it really sucks to have Lamar Jackson and Courtland Sutton tearing it up and being on bye for the first round of fantasy playoffs.
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What a bunch of douches the NFL putting six teams on bye in week 14.
Maybe they are all in on gambling and daily fantasy, but it really sucks to have Lamar Jackson and Courtland Sutton tearing it up and being on bye for the first round of fantasy playoffs.
The problem is with your league settings, then. My playoffs start next week.
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Your league manager doesn’t know what they’re doing is the problem.
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The problem is with your league settings, then. My playoffs start next week.
I think we are going to push it back a week, but it's still fucking douchey. If you start the playoffs in week 15, if your league has an 8 team playoff (we have 6 teams with 2 getting byes), then the fantasy football final is in the last week of the season when a lot of starters will be resting.
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Your league manager doesn’t know what they’re doing is the problem.
I definitely agree with this.
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Your league manager doesn’t know what they’re doing is the problem.
byes in week 14 just make no sense. period
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Half my fantasy team is on a bye this week in one of my leagues. Total bullshit…
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Half my fantasy team is on a bye this week in one of my leagues. Total bullshit…
I feel ya. The only league I'm leading in and Lamar and Henry sitting out. WTF?
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Half my fantasy team is on a bye this week in one of my leagues. Total bullshit…
At least y’all are beating up on me in the HQ2 League
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LaFleur is going to lose that challenge. I guess Flus not the only one susceptible to really bad challenges.
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LaFleur is going to lose that challenge. I guess Flus not the only one susceptible to really bad challenges.
Does he get haircuts before the game for road games or just the home games?
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LaFleur is going to lose that challenge. I guess Flus not the only one susceptible to really bad challenges.
This would be a good topic for a PFT Blog Post - Rating Coaches on Challenges. Thanks Max/Noam!
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Baker turning back into a pumpkin.
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Eagles very lucky to escape the Panthers at home. Panther WR drops a TD pass with 37 seconds left. Not perfectly thrown, but thrown well enough.
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Cousins looks washed. I think they should move on to Penix. What you say, Florio? Feel free to steal my take.
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Cousins looks washed. I think they should move on to Penix. What you say, Florio? Feel free to steal my take.
Thanks!
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kirk-cousinss-rough-stretch-continues
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Thanks!
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kirk-cousinss-rough-stretch-continues
Only took you 10 minutes! I knew you were an HQ2 guy!
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The problem is with your league settings, then. My playoffs start next week.
I started Sam Darnold
No problem
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If the Lions were smart, they’d shitcan Dan Campbell and promote Ben Johnson.
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If the Lions were smart, they’d shitcan Dan Campbell and promote Ben Johnson.
You can't be serious.
Didn't your guy Parkins want to fire Eberlose and elevate Getsy? Or was that earlier?
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You can't be serious.
Didn't your guy Parkins want to fire Eberlose and elevate Getsy? Or was that earlier?
Lol why wouldn’t I be serious? Campbell is reckless. He cost them a trip to the Super Bowl last year and I wouldn’t be shocked at all if it happens again this year. He coaches on the edge for no reason at all (ego maybe?).
Lol are you seriously comparing Luke Getsy to Ben Johnson? And yes, he said that, possibly/probably before Eberflus even coached a game. Regardless, that situation doesn’t apply. Getsy was barely on the radar when he was hired here. He hadn’t even been a coordinator yet. Ben Johnson on the other hand is the biggest prize in this years’ head coaching pool.
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Campbell foolishly risked an onsides kick with 12 minutes left and basically gifted Buffalo a touchdown. They lost the game by 6. He risked the entire game on a 7% chance of a recovery.
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Lol why wouldn’t I be serious? Campbell is reckless. He cost them a trip to the Super Bowl last year and I wouldn’t be shocked at all if it happens again this year. He coaches on the edge for no reason at all (ego maybe?).
Johnson allegedly is not a guy who makes you want to run through a wall. Campbell is.
The Lion defense is really banged up right now (in part due to the Bear). They need to outscore people.
If the Lion do not succeed in the playoffs, it will be due to injuries (in part).
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Lol are you seriously comparing Luke Getsy to Ben Johnson? And yes, he said that, possibly/probably before Eberflus even coached a game. Regardless, that situation doesn’t apply. Getsy was barely on the radar when he was hired here. He hadn’t even been a coordinator yet. Ben Johnson on the other hand is the biggest prize in this years’ head coaching pool.
No, I was mocking you acting like Parkins.
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Campbell foolishly risked an onsides kick with 12 minutes left and basically gifted Buffalo a touchdown. They lost the game by 6. He risked the entire game on a 7% chance of a recovery.
Did he say he did it due to the defensive issues?
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Pros needing extra motivation is largely a myth.
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Are you seriously defending the onsides kick with 12 minutes left? It was one of the dumber decisions I’ve seen in a long time (and I watch the Bears a lot).
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Pros needing extra motivation is largely a myth.
LOL. Let me know when Montez Sweat gets motivated since he got his new contract....
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…
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Are you seriously defending the onsides kick with 12 minutes left? It was one of the dumber decisions I’ve seen in a long time (and I watch the Bears a lot).
Defending it? No. Understanding it. Yeah. Agreeing with it? Meh.
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Your best take in some time....
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… is how you know the statement was EXTRA clever.
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… is how you know the statement was EXTRA clever.
LOL. Now I do!
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NO going for 2 with no time left is the call I did not understand. Seemed like they had all the momentum.
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To quote a great naval leader, his ego is out there writing checks his body can’t cash.
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To quote a great naval leader, his ego is out there writing checks his body can’t cash.
I'd take him over the Bear coach.
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The success rate of that play in 2024 is 1 in 13.6. But the genius that is Dan Campbell was pretty sure they’d get it! They are led by HIM!
(https://i.postimg.cc/HkxR32mH/IMG-9833.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tpzt3nhH)
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I'd take him over the Bear coach.
Well duh, that’s a low bar.
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Lol why wouldn’t I be serious? Campbell is reckless. He cost them a trip to the Super Bowl last year and I wouldn’t be shocked at all if it happens again this year. He coaches on the edge for no reason at all (ego maybe?).
They should bring back all the coaches the have had the past few decades who never sniffed the playoffs.
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To quote a great naval leader, his ego is out there writing checks his body can’t cash.
You just hate him because hes a white alpha chad
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You just hate him because hes a white alpha chad
Don’t hate him at all. He’s just dumb.
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Tempo demands complete dominance by a coach with 13 D guys on the IR and a rookie QB but not the Bear GM.
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Tempo demands complete dominance by a coach with 13 D guys on the IR and a rookie QB but not the Bear GM.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hj4CGStg/IMG-9837.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Absolutely true!
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Absolutely true!
True, it’s a total strawman.
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True, it’s a total strawman.
Nope. You demand more out of Williams and Dan Campbell than you do Poles. That's fact.
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Nope. You demand more out of Williams and Dan Campbell than you do Poles. That's fact.
(https://i.postimg.cc/J0kCt5xN/IMG-9837.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/J0kCt5xN/IMG-9837.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Facts are facts. You continue to give Your Guy Poles the benefit of the doubt like you gave Your Guy Eberlose.
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The only thing I expect from Dan Campbell is not to put his team in bad situations for no reason late in games. But I hope he continues to do so because I think it’s funny.
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The only thing I expect from Dan Campbell is not to put his team in bad situations for no reason late in games. But I hope he continues to do so because I think it’s funny.
You expect Complete Domination! Poles excluded, of course.
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You expect Complete Domination! Poles excluded, of course.
If “complete domination” means “don’t make excessively stupid decisions late in games,” then yes.
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If “complete domination” means “don’t make excessively stupid decisions late in games,” then yes.
No, it means perfection regardless of the circumstances.
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No, it means perfection regardless of the circumstances.
(https://i.postimg.cc/6q6Hnbk4/IMG-9837.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Falcons are expected to release Kirk Cousins to save money on a bonus due. I heard he will make $90 million for 14 starts…
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Falcons are expected to release Kirk Cousins to save money on a bonus due. I heard he will make $90 million for 14 starts…
Jesus must wanted it to be like this.
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We just lost about 6-7 spots on that 2nd rounder from Carolina due to their win today. SMH
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CJ Stroud looks like ass.
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And Baltimore is going to win that challenge, because that looked like a terribly generous spot.
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NFL Christmas seeding sucks. Too many blowouts!
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Russell Wilson with some Bears-esque clock management on that final drive.
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NFL wanted eyeballs on the Phins and Broncos games tomorrow.