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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2024
« Reply #675 on: May 20, 2024, 06:54:17 PM »
And I’d be curious to see what Patrick Mahomes would be if he’d been in the same scenario. Probably good, but not “The Goat.”
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« Reply #676 on: May 20, 2024, 06:55:51 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 20, 2024, 06:49:21 PM
I didn’t “defend him from any and all” criticism. I said there was plenty to go around (including him), and I felt he was likely to still get better. Learn to fucking read.

Absolute horseshit, and every single person here (including you) knows it.

Tempo, you - without exaggeration - got defensive of Fields when I said "great catch by DJ".  Not only did you not accept ANY criticism of Fields, ever, from anyone else - you even created criticism of Fields out of compliments to his teammates.
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« Reply #677 on: May 20, 2024, 06:56:54 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 20, 2024, 06:55:51 PM
Absolute horseshit, and every single person here (including you) knows it.

Tempo, you - without exaggeration - got defensive of Fields when I said "great catch by DJ".  Not only did you not accept ANY criticism of Fields, ever, from anyone else - you even created criticism of Fields out of compliments to his teammates.

Goodbye.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2024
« Reply #678 on: May 20, 2024, 06:57:14 PM »
Lol for PAMan.

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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2024
« Reply #679 on: May 20, 2024, 06:58:52 PM »
Spark, you’ve lost all ability to be reasonable. You’ve morphed into PAMan.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2024
« Reply #680 on: May 20, 2024, 07:00:04 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 20, 2024, 06:53:26 PM
IIRC you once asked me to assign a percentage of the blame to Fields, and I think I put the number at 30-35%. That’s not “nothing,” and “blaming everyone but him.”

This one million percent happened.
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« Reply #681 on: May 20, 2024, 07:05:04 PM »
In fact, I’d say Fields’ tenure failed in equal parts due to coaching/support, lack of talent around him, his own shortcomings.
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« Reply #682 on: May 20, 2024, 07:07:33 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 20, 2024, 07:00:04 PM
This one million percent happened.

I for sure one time asked you to tell me how much responsibility you thought Fields deserved for "his own personal play" and you completely avoided the question.

It was because every single time someone here criticized his own play, you immediately went to something along the lines of 'remember that one time Robert Tonyan dropped a pass'
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« Reply #683 on: May 20, 2024, 07:09:26 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 20, 2024, 06:56:54 PM
Goodbye.

Did you not?

When I complimented a catch one of Fields' teammates made, did you get defensive of Fields?

What about when I said "the good and the bad of Fields" after a great play and a bad play back to back - did you get super defensive of Fields for that?
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« Reply #684 on: May 20, 2024, 07:25:33 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 20, 2024, 07:07:33 PM
I for sure one time asked you to tell me how much responsibility you thought Fields deserved for "his own personal play" and you completely avoided the question.


I’m nearly certain that didn’t happen. I’ve always said some of Justin’s failures are on him. But you’ve taken up to mischaracterizing people’s comments; the thing you claim to hate the most.

Yes, I’m sure I’ve explained more than a handful of bad plays. And yes, Bob Tonyan also dropped a great pass that could have been the difference in the game. Both things can be true.
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« Reply #685 on: May 20, 2024, 07:27:39 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 20, 2024, 07:09:26 PM
Did you not?

When I complimented a catch one of Fields' teammates made, did you get defensive of Fields?

What about when I said "the good and the bad of Fields" after a great play and a bad play back to back - did you get super defensive of Fields for that?

I probably did it because you so often credited people for making plays without giving Justin proper due. Hell, you once praised a guy for dropping a Hail Mary he had in his arms as a “hell of a play just to give himself a chance.”
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2024
« Reply #686 on: May 20, 2024, 07:28:52 PM »
Me arguing a single catch with you doesn’t negate the fact I’ve said a large handful of times “Justin needs to play better.”
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« Reply #687 on: May 20, 2024, 07:30:18 PM »
And I am damn near certain I didn’t run from your question and gave Justin somewhere around 30-35% of the blame.
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« Reply #688 on: May 20, 2024, 07:36:16 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 20, 2024, 07:27:39 PM
I probably did it because you so often credited people for making plays without giving Justin proper due. Hell, you once praised a guy for dropping a Hail Mary he had in his arms as a “hell of a play just to give himself a chance.”

Praised him?

No, I defended him because you and the rest of the Fields Fellatio Gang were out for blood.  Because a dude made a hell of a play, reached out and grabbed a literal Hail Mary, and then dropped the catch in the end.  Which of course completely exonerated Fields from any and all mistakes he made that day.
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Re: Other NFL teams/games 2024
« Reply #689 on: May 20, 2024, 07:36:53 PM »
LMAO. Gold, Jerry. Gold.
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