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Title: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2026, 08:37:48 AM
One of those times Charlie Kirk had it exactly right.

https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/2027716602838274433?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2026, 08:39:09 AM
Not saying Charlie was killed for this take; but I’m also not saying he wasn’t killed for this take.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on February 28, 2026, 09:12:49 AM
Now we get to see how brainwashed the cult is


Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2026, 11:41:07 AM
Now we get to see how brainwashed the cult is

We’ve known all along, it’s a chance for the ones with any objectivity left whatsoever to see how brainwashed they are
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on February 28, 2026, 12:14:19 PM
We’ve known all along, it’s a chance for the ones with any objectivity left whatsoever to see how brainwashed they are

Sadly it seems to be a one by one sort of a deal. MAGA MAGA MAGA then your kid dies on some Navy Base in Bahrain for nothing and suddenly you're ex-MAGA, but your neighbor is unconvinced.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2026, 12:26:06 PM
Sadly it seems to be a one by one sort of a deal. MAGA MAGA MAGA then your kid dies on some Navy Base in Bahrain for nothing and suddenly you're ex-MAGA, but your neighbor is unconvinced.


🎯
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2026, 09:49:20 PM
LOL like everyone else around Trump, she was against it before she was for it!

https://x.com/ofthebraveusa/status/2027922974024601704?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2026, 09:50:07 PM
Even Trump was against it before he was for it!

https://x.com/owenshroyer1776/status/2027889036283556147?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2026, 09:51:23 PM
JD Vance, against it before he was for it!

https://x.com/edkrassen/status/2027756655866171428?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2026, 09:54:10 PM
Trump being a supreme hypocrite. More supreme than the ayatollah.

https://x.com/vladtheinflator/status/2027835038650536314?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 28, 2026, 11:13:57 PM

Lol

(https://i.ibb.co/prBSvnBQ/20260228-182035.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NndM67dr)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on February 28, 2026, 11:50:03 PM
LOL

https://x.com/mattvanswol/status/2027841398817407008?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 03:56:05 AM
LOL

https://x.com/mattvanswol/status/2027841398817407008?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

LOL

https://x.com/ofthebraveusa/status/2027851419223466241?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 03:57:00 AM
LOL

https://x.com/mattvanswol/status/2027841398817407008?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

We stand with humanity. Doesn’t matter what imaginary line you live in front of or behind.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 04:00:22 AM
Team Trump Opposed War With Iran. Then They Started One
Donald Trump, JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, Stephen Miller, and so many in MAGA claimed they would stop regime-change wars, not start them. We have the receipts.



https://zeteo.com/p/team-trump-iran-war-regime-change
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 01, 2026, 08:32:22 AM
It's not a regime change. It's saving humanity.

And real estate deals, self-enrichment and other unnamed as of yet self serving ideas.
Lol
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on March 01, 2026, 09:09:34 AM
It's a military operation. Not a war.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 01, 2026, 09:18:22 AM
We stand with humanity. Doesn’t matter what imaginary line you live in front of or behind.

Oh really?! 🤔

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2027978433070788822?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 10:08:56 AM
It's a military operation. Not a war.

Regime change and destabilizing a country is 100% "war "
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 10:09:46 AM
Oh really?! 🤔

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2027978433070788822?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

LOL
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 10:10:55 AM
It's not a regime change. It's saving humanity.

And real estate deals, self-enrichment and other unnamed as of yet self serving ideas.
Lol

What about all those times Trump and his entire administration said they were against this? Bet you were against it then, too. But you are in a cult, so now you support it.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 01, 2026, 10:16:18 AM
What about all those times Trump and his entire administration said they were against this? Bet you were against it then, too. But you are in a cult, so now you support it.

Or, things change. The world is fluid and ever changing. Things can’t always stay the same. If we feel now that Iran was a threat and this now needs to happen, then it will. I’m not saying I agree with it or believe we should have, but it happened. Biden and Obama have done the exact same thing and no one on the left was up in arms then. It’s all political.

Why is it you and your beliefs can change, but someone else’s can’t?!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 10:19:00 AM
LOL
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 01, 2026, 10:19:40 AM
LOL

I agree. Very hypocritical of you and the left…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 10:26:46 AM
I agree. Very hypocritical of you and the left…

We were told strikes last year set back the Iranians years if not a generation. “Things change!” You are a SHILL.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kv0bSw8f/IMG-5731.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJY3cZ8Y)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 10:28:08 AM
If Joe Biden had ran on no new wars, and then did this I can assure you, I wouldn’t have been cheerleading it. Because I am not a SHILL.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 10:28:59 AM
Iran was not an imminent threat.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 01, 2026, 10:40:18 AM
Iran was not an imminent threat.
Did 1 of the Dems on the Intelligence Committee tell you this ?
Lol
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 01, 2026, 11:56:01 AM
It's not a regime change. It's saving humanity.

You're right about something. It's not a regime change.

Trump will do a midnight operation on Venezuela to kidnap their leader, and a bombing run to kill the leader of Iran, and neither regime will change.

And even if by some miracle, the entirety of the cleric circle and the Iranian Republican Guard craters, it won't save humanity.

The people doing their little party in Civic Center here yesterday had the Lion flags, the Iranian flag pre-revolution. You see, they (really their parents) escaped from Iran after the revolution, and came to America. Who does that, and who *can* do that?

The rich people who were part of the Shah's circle. Of course they think the Ayatollahs are a bunch of criminals - they were fat and happy and then there was a revolution and they lost a lot of their assets inside Iran. Luckily they all had massive assets offshore.

I have a friend who was smuggled out of Iran just after the revolution. It's a pretty hairy story - his parents paid the Kurds up in the North to smuggle him to Turkey, then they used a network and some bribery to get him to Cyprus, where relatives who lived in London extracted him, then he made it to the Chicago suburbs to other family. Ended up at UIUC and had a nice career in semiconductors. While the story is hairy, it only can happen if their family has extensive assets outside Iran.

All the revolution really did was change which assholes were scoobying up all the country's wealth, by exploiting how rough it was for the people who weren't taking part in the largesse. The Shah was just as corrupt. We backed him because he was cooperative to the US. But he was just as brutal as the Ayatollahs.

It would be impressive if this results in a change in the power structure, but I doubt it, and even if it does, we just get different assholes. There was nothing magic about Khameni, just like there was nothing magic about Khaddafi, or Assad, or Stalin, or Mao.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: alum74 on March 01, 2026, 01:12:45 PM
You're right about something. It's not a regime change.

Trump will do a midnight operation on Venezuela to kidnap their leader, and a bombing run to kill the leader of Iran, and neither regime will change.

And even if by some miracle, the entirety of the cleric circle and the Iranian Republican Guard craters, it won't save humanity.

The people doing their little party in Civic Center here yesterday had the Lion flags, the Iranian flag pre-revolution. You see, they (really their parents) escaped from Iran after the revolution, and came to America. Who does that, and who *can* do that?

The rich people who were part of the Shah's circle. Of course they think the Ayatollahs are a bunch of criminals - they were fat and happy and then there was a revolution and they lost a lot of their assets inside Iran. Luckily they all had massive assets offshore.

I have a friend who was smuggled out of Iran just after the revolution. It's a pretty hairy story - his parents paid the Kurds up in the North to smuggle him to Turkey, then they used a network and some bribery to get him to Cyprus, where relatives who lived in London extracted him, then he made it to the Chicago suburbs to other family. Ended up at UIUC and had a nice career in semiconductors. While the story is hairy, it only can happen if their family has extensive assets outside Iran.

All the revolution really did was change which assholes were scoobying up all the country's wealth, by exploiting how rough it was for the people who weren't taking part in the largesse. The Shah was just as corrupt. We backed him because he was cooperative to the US. But he was just as brutal as the Ayatollahs.

It would be impressive if this results in a change in the power structure, but I doubt it, and even if it does, we just get different assholes. There was nothing magic about Khameni, just like there was nothing magic about Khaddafi, or Assad, or Stalin, or Mao.

Anyone who thinks they know how this will turn out is likely to find themselves surprised.  After the Shah fell, many progressive Iranian students expected democracy but were killed under Khomeini's rule.  Egypt also saw hopes for democracy after Mubarak but now faces another authoritarian leader.  A similar pattern occurred in Russia.  If you’re confident you know how this ends, you don’t.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 01:36:01 PM
Did 1 of the Dems on the Intelligence Committee tell you this ?
Lol

I'm CIA
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 01:40:15 PM
They don't care how it turns out, that's why there was no plan for what to do after the attacks. All they know is Israel, other Middle East adversaries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar), and the Neocons will be happy that Iran will.have been completely neutered and in chaos.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 01, 2026, 03:15:00 PM
They don't care how it turns out, that's why there was no plan for what to do after the attacks. All they know is Israel, other Middle East adversaries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar), and the Neocons will be happy that Iran will.have been completely neutered and in chaos.

More that MAGA will be distracted from Epstein
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 03:19:07 PM
And just like I said a week or two ago. After Iran, it’ll be Cuba, then on to Turkey.

https://x.com/hatsoffff/status/2028017892793700715?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 03:26:20 PM
More that MAGA will be distracted from Epstein

That’s part of it. And I may be underplaying just how big of a part of it is if Israel really does have compromising material on Trump, which they likely do.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 03:30:01 PM
For the first time, I’m starting to question whether or not Trump will try to prevent the midterm elections.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 01, 2026, 08:04:04 PM
Where was the outrage then?! LOL, had that been Trump y'all would’ve lost your minds!

https://x.com/osint613/status/1940739706712424732?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 01, 2026, 08:26:27 PM
LOLOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 02, 2026, 12:13:34 AM
war is fucking gay
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 02, 2026, 01:50:38 AM
war is fucking gay

And you like war so.. you’re fucking gay?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 07:53:15 AM
Where was the outrage then?! LOL, had that been Trump y'all would’ve lost your minds!

https://x.com/osint613/status/1940739706712424732?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

1) The boat drifted into Iranian waters; if an Iranian boat was captured in American waters it would be treated the same, or maybe even just blown up under Trump.

2) You realize the money was rightfully owed to them, right? It wasn’t a “payment,” or “bribe.”
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 07:55:38 AM
Custard, Mn, Judy: give this guy a listen. If he doesn’t at least make you pause and consider, you’re truly unreachable. He’s incredibly bright and eloquent. And he looks and talks like a hog farmer, not a costal academic elite. 8 minutes but worth every minute.

https://x.com/politicsusa46/status/2028326759423267261?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Jobu on March 02, 2026, 08:42:43 AM
Wait, you're telling me that Iran didn't just give up when we dropped a few bombs on them?

Huh.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 09:24:08 AM
You know you're a flailing jerkoff when you break out the "yeah, but the other Presidents were dumb" card. This administration creates new ways to embarrass itself, and diminish the office of President.

https://x.com/i/status/2028343871894368645
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 09:38:48 AM
Wait, you're telling me that Iran didn't just give up when we dropped a few bombs on them?

Huh.

What's so on brand for this is you've literally got every key player in the administration save maybe Hegseth saying "Going to war with Iran is a terrible idea! Not gonna happen!"
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 10:22:58 AM
What's so on brand for this is you've literally got every key player in the administration save maybe Hegseth saying "Going to war with Iran is a terrible idea! Not gonna happen!"

LOL check that! Hegseth also
joined the party! Fucking hilarious

https://x.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/2028486026801315864?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 10:39:35 AM
“No stupid rules of engagement.” I feel like Heath Ledger’s Joker is running things at the White House.

https://x.com/deanobeidallah/status/2028467051778445788?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 02, 2026, 11:44:56 AM
Tempo = Nick Fuentes is a match?

https://www.rawstory.com/nick-fuentes-trump-2675536126/
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 11:46:04 AM
Tempo = Nick Fuentes is a match?

https://www.rawstory.com/nick-fuentes-trump-2675536126/

More likely to be you, you “both” live in Berwyn.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 02, 2026, 12:22:02 PM
Wait, you're telling me that Iran didn't just give up when we dropped a few bombs on them?

Huh.

Who’s even in control to give up or not give up?

If Trump keeps “kicking the crap out of them” with the majority of the regime already dead - good luck getting the Iranian people to “greet us as liberators”

Netanyahu just hates Muslims. More dead = more good
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 02, 2026, 12:48:23 PM
Who’s even in control to give up or not give up?

If Trump keeps “kicking the crap out of them” with the majority of the regime already dead - good luck getting the Iranian people to “greet us as liberators”

Netanyahu just hates Muslims. More dead = more good

Well obviously if they’re still shooting missiles at us, somebody is in charge and/or coordinating that…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 02, 2026, 12:57:51 PM
And you like war so.. you’re fucking gay?

you got it all wrong man
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Jobu on March 02, 2026, 01:04:28 PM
Well obviously if they’re still shooting missiles at us, somebody is in charge and/or coordinating that…

Well, why wouldn't they shoot missiles at us? We fucking attacked them. What would you expect them to do?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 02, 2026, 01:31:50 PM
More likely to be you, you “both” live in Berwyn.

He sounds like you though!

And like MBS is running the show!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/push-from-saudis-israel-helped-move-trump-to-attack-iran/ar-AA1XhnBW
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 02, 2026, 01:48:15 PM
Well, why wouldn't they shoot missiles at us? We fucking attacked them. What would you expect them to do?

I expect them to stop before we blow them off the face of the Earth…

This is a country that is the #1 sponsor of terrorism in the world for a very long time and hates us vehemently. Y'all are crazy as fuck if you’re defending anything regarding Iran. Fucking insane.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Jobu on March 02, 2026, 01:57:13 PM
I expect them to stop before we blow them off the face of the Earth…

This is a country that is the #1 sponsor of terrorism in the world for a very long time and hates us vehemently. Y'all are crazy as fuck if you’re defending anything regarding Iran. Fucking insane.

Newsflash, dipshit. They're not going to stop. And we're not going to blow them off the face of the earth. That's not how it works.

And I'm not defending Iran. They weren't an imminent threat. Israel duped your orange leader into jumping in with them lol.

I'll put it another way. Putin, of all people, saw what we were up to and was like, damn. That's pretty fucked up. Putin. The dude who invaded Ukraine and failed miserably. Putin, the russian gangster. Immoral as fuck, by many metrics. This dude came out and said, fuck, what Trump is doing here is immoral.

So, to recap. Orange dipshit thought he was going to move in and drop some bombs, and Iran was going to be like, oh shit, we better do what they want. Except that isn't how it works. So, we're in the shit now. Glad I don't have a kid in high school.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 02:44:15 PM
He sounds like you though!

And like MBS is running the show!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/push-from-saudis-israel-helped-move-trump-to-attack-iran/ar-AA1XhnBW

He sounds like you, you’re the one saying we need to elect more Democrats.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 02:45:30 PM
He sounds like you though!

And like MBS is running the show!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/push-from-saudis-israel-helped-move-trump-to-attack-iran/ar-AA1XhnBW

The Post loses money because it takes 5 reporters to write one story!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 02:49:02 PM
Newsflash, dipshit. They're not going to stop. And we're not going to blow them off the face of the earth. That's not how it works.

And I'm not defending Iran. They weren't an imminent threat. Israel duped your orange leader into jumping in with them lol.

I'll put it another way. Putin, of all people, saw what we were up to and was like, damn. That's pretty fucked up. Putin. The dude who invaded Ukraine and failed miserably. Putin, the russian gangster. Immoral as fuck, by many metrics. This dude came out and said, fuck, what Trump is doing here is immoral.

So, to recap. Orange dipshit thought he was going to move in and drop some bombs, and Iran was going to be like, oh shit, we better do what they want. Except that isn't how it works. So, we're in the shit now. Glad I don't have a kid in high school.

🎯

And how in the fuck is saying Iran will continue to fight “defending Iran?” That’s just a weird take.

Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 02:50:45 PM
“No stupid rules of engagement.” I feel like Heath Ledger’s Joker is running things at the White House.

https://x.com/deanobeidallah/status/2028467051778445788?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Again, for the ones who don’t comprehend so well; this is Hegseth saying “fuck the Geneva Convention.” Which is a catastrophic decision.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 02:51:37 PM
Custard, Mn, Judy: give this guy a listen. If he doesn’t at least make you pause and consider, you’re truly unreachable. He’s incredibly bright and eloquent. And he looks and talks like a hog farmer, not a costal academic elite. 8 minutes but worth every minute.

https://x.com/politicsusa46/status/2028326759423267261?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Judy, did you bother watching this video?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 03:05:51 PM
Jobu and Murph should like this one.

Set up by a South Park writer. “Dog Bless Barron.”  LOL

https://www.draftbarrontrump.com/
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 03:11:06 PM
I think it’s fine to love your country and be a patriot; but I think you gotta know when to say when.

(https://i.postimg.cc/G23py31g/IMG-5740.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVZ9rmGW)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Jobu on March 02, 2026, 03:24:54 PM
Jobu and Murph should like this one.

Set up by a South Park writer. “Dog Bless Barron.”  LOL

https://www.draftbarrontrump.com/

haha, that kid looks like a huge pussy
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 02, 2026, 03:27:45 PM
Again, for the ones who don’t comprehend so well; this is Hegseth saying “fuck the Geneva Convention.” Which is a catastrophic decision.

Catastrophic for who exectly?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 02, 2026, 05:07:12 PM
you got it all wrong man

A man is who he votes for.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 02, 2026, 05:08:18 PM
Well obviously if they’re still shooting missiles at us, somebody is in charge and/or coordinating that…

Facts not in evidence.

Didn't you watch Dr Strangelove? Once the chain of command is shot to shit, it's just a guy with a button.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 02, 2026, 05:10:31 PM
I expect them to stop before we blow them off the face of the Earth…

This is a country that is the #1 sponsor of terrorism in the world for a very long time and hates us vehemently. Y'all are crazy as fuck if you’re defending anything regarding Iran. Fucking insane.

As you note in your 2nd paragraph, this state was a economic sponsor of 19 guys who flew planes that they were currently occupying into the World Trade Center, blowing their persons off the face of the earth. As such, why do you think that whomever is sitting in the bunker controlling the shooting of missiles worried about what happens after he pushes the button, when 42 virgins await him?

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Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 05:11:34 PM
American service members have died in the last 24 hours and Trump is bragging about how beautiful the new ballroom is going to be. I’d say he’s out of touch, but they would be short-selling it, he’s a sociopath.
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Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 05:16:12 PM
Trump added in a phone interview, "We have three, but we expect casualties, but in the end it's going to be a great deal for the world."

“A great deal.” Everything is a transaction to this sicko.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 02, 2026, 05:16:21 PM
A real catch-22 here.

Trump caused this, and it will most likely be a huge net negative for the US, and will end Trump's cult and thus his Presidency.

While I would love for Trump to be gone, it's not worth it. So I hope we beat the odds here.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 02, 2026, 05:23:46 PM
As you note in your 2nd paragraph, this state was a economic sponsor of 19 guys who flew planes that they were currently occupying into the World Trade Center, blowing their persons off the face of the earth. As such, why do you think that whomever is sitting in the bunker controlling the shooting of missiles worried about what happens after he pushes the button, when 42 virgins await him?

Uh, that was Saudi Arabia. A different sect of religious fundamentalists from the Iranians.....
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 02, 2026, 05:27:10 PM
A real catch-22 here.

Trump caused this, and it will most likely be a huge net negative for the US, and will end Trump's cult and thus his Presidency.

While I would love for Trump to be gone, it's not worth it. So I hope we beat the odds here.

Hate to break it to Tempo and you, but Trump isn't going anywhere. Unless, that is, the blotch on his neck is some type of untreated venereal disease that is eating away at him like he is Al Capone. 
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 02, 2026, 06:05:26 PM
Uh, that was Saudi Arabia. A different sect of religious fundamentalists from the Iranians.....

You don't think Iran chipped in? seriously?

ok, let's discuss kidnapping 52 American diplomats?
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 02, 2026, 06:06:16 PM
Hate to break it to Tempo and you, but Trump isn't going anywhere. Unless, that is, the blotch on his neck is some type of untreated venereal disease that is eating away at him like he is Al Capone.

This war results in a serious terror attack and a $3/gal increase in gas prices and he gone.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 02, 2026, 06:11:02 PM
You don't think Iran chipped in? seriously?

ok, let's discuss kidnapping 52 American diplomats?

Skeptical. Bin Laden did not trust the Iranians.

Ok, invading the embassy is a far better example.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 02, 2026, 06:11:45 PM
This war results in a serious terror attack and a $3/gal increase in gas prices and he gone.

Good luck with that.
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Post by: ILLove1997 on March 02, 2026, 06:18:44 PM
A man is who he votes for.

well until this 2nd term he was the first president in like 50 years to not have a war during his presidency, which was one of the few reasons I liked him

🤷‍♀️
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 02, 2026, 06:30:38 PM
well until this 2nd term he was the first president in like 50 years to not have a war during his presidency, which was one of the few reasons I liked him

🤷‍♀️

Not surprising you are easily fooled
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Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 08:07:14 PM
Good luck with that.

Be it death, impeachment, or prison, I still think 3 more years of Trump is a big ask. His popularity is waning across all spectrums. 75-80% of the country was against attacking Iran. If it goes badly, he will have to wear it. Unless the country falls for an “terrorist attack.”
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 02, 2026, 08:39:15 PM
Be it death, impeachment, or prison, I still think 3 more years of Trump is a big ask. His popularity is waning across all spectrums. 75-80% of the country was against attacking Iran. If it goes badly, he will have to wear it. Unless the country falls for an “terrorist attack.”

Good luck with all that.
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Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 08:59:11 PM
Good luck with all that.

Yeah, you’ve been saying that.
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Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 08:59:20 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/QMSSTWxt/IMG-5750.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1Zh0J6Q)
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Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 10:45:47 PM
Yeah, I’d be highly surprised if the Iranians were in on 9/11 with Saudi. They don’t like each other.
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Post by: Reacher on March 02, 2026, 10:56:59 PM
Catastrophic for who exectly?

The U.S.? International Law and order?
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Post by: Custard on March 02, 2026, 11:05:56 PM
Custard, Mn, Judy: give this guy a listen. If he doesn’t at least make you pause and consider, you’re truly unreachable. He’s incredibly bright and eloquent. And he looks and talks like a hog farmer, not a costal academic elite. 8 minutes but worth every minute.

https://x.com/politicsusa46/status/2028326759423267261?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

I did as you asked and listened to it.

I agree with just about all of it, even if it’s something we haven’t expected or asked from any president I can remember in my lifetime. We never get full transparency into military operations and when they do tell us something, it’s usually BS and lies and subterfuge.

So yeah, it’s essentially wishcasting for something that’s never going to happen. And there is no independent confirmation that there were 150 girls killed in that school, just Iranian state propaganda.

I just saw this and it’s interesting because it was published by a pretty intelligent dude right before the attacks began, and it actually addresses a lot of the things this fellow you posted was asking for:

https://youtu.be/IdE_e0cLtBM

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Post by: ThePAMan on March 02, 2026, 11:18:58 PM
The U.S.? International Law and order?

Skeptical. Iranians, sure.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 02, 2026, 11:21:32 PM
Yeah, you’ve been saying that.

And you keep doing the same dreaming every time Trump does something without any plan. At some point you will understand that it does not matter to those with any power to actually boot him out.
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Post by: IlliniGolf on March 02, 2026, 11:40:05 PM
https://x.com/langmanvince/status/2028635067111641505?s=46
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 02, 2026, 11:51:09 PM

And there is no independent confirmation that there were 150 girls killed in that school, just Iranian state propaganda.


If you bomb the Iranians, you have to plan that they will make said propaganda, and said psyops will reduce your plan of Iranians happily throwing over the government to rubble.

To call Hegseth a rookie is an insult to rookies.
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Post by: Reacher on March 03, 2026, 07:20:52 AM
I did as you asked and listened to it.

I agree with just about all of it, even if it’s something we haven’t expected or asked from any president I can remember in my lifetime. We never get full transparency into military operations and when they do tell us something, it’s usually BS and lies and subterfuge.

So yeah, it’s essentially wishcasting for something that’s never going to happen. And there is no independent confirmation that there were 150 girls killed in that school, just Iranian state propaganda.

I just saw this and it’s interesting because it was published by a pretty intelligent dude right before the attacks began, and it actually addresses a lot of the things this fellow you posted was asking for:

https://youtu.be/IdE_e0cLtBM

We may not get “full transparency,” but we do normally get a reason and an objective. I understand this isn’t quite on the same level as Iraq as far as a buildup, but this is way more than a simple strike or two, and this is against a country much more formidable and much larger than Iraq was. Glad you watched the video and saw some value in it. I’ll try to watch your video today, I should have some time this afternoon.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 07:37:39 AM
The objective is to find someone to "cut a deal with"... See Venezuela. You think the dopes in Iran would have looked at Venezuela and seen what to do to remain alive and in power.
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Post by: Reacher on March 03, 2026, 08:13:09 AM
You’d think the dopes in Washington DC wouldn’t have bombed their top candidates.
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Post by: Reacher on March 03, 2026, 08:13:20 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVbLHgUDYk6/?igsh=MWlqcTU1ZW55cnIxcQ==
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 03, 2026, 09:30:24 AM
We may not get “full transparency,” but we do normally get a reason and an objective. I understand this isn’t quite on the same level as Iraq as far as a buildup, but this is way more than a simple strike or two, and this is against a country much more formidable and much larger than Iraq was. Glad you watched the video and saw some value in it. I’ll try to watch your video today, I should have some time this afternoon.

Formidable and larger sure, but more importantly, they control the Strait of Hormuz. That's 20% of the world's oil supply.

My kid is on a WW2 segment in US History, so I was watching Patton last night. Great film. George C Scott was a master. Patton would be completely useless in modern warfare. Unfortunately, instead of listening to our current Generals, we have a couple wannabe Pattons running the show.

To wit, the Iranians are also crazier and more organized than the Iraqis. They are going after soft targets that cause real issues, and they haven't even really gone after the big but very easy fish. Embassies are nothing. Attacking Dubai Airport is good creativity, but there are some other soft targets that really disrupt the US Economy, and not even that complicated - for example the tech sector in Haifa.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 09:57:49 AM
You’d think the dopes in Washington DC wouldn’t have bombed their top candidates.

Actually, I do think they would have.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 09:59:05 AM
Formidable and larger sure, but more importantly, they control the Strait of Hormuz. That's 20% of the world's oil supply.

My kid is on a WW2 segment in US History, so I was watching Patton last night. Great film. George C Scott was a master. Patton would be completely useless in modern warfare. Unfortunately, instead of listening to our current Generals, we have a couple wannabe Pattons running the show.

To wit, the Iranians are also crazier and more organized than the Iraqis. They are going after soft targets that cause real issues, and they haven't even really gone after the big but very easy fish. Embassies are nothing. Attacking Dubai Airport is good creativity, but there are some other soft targets that really disrupt the US Economy, and not even that complicated - for example the tech sector in Haifa.

Yes, attacking Arab countries is great PR for them.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 10:56:27 AM
Here's your reason for the latest war, Tempo.

https://www.themirror.com/news/world-news/commanders-tell-troops-trump-anointed-1715791?1=

US commanders tell troops Trump 'anointed by Jesus' to start Iran war sparking hundreds of complaints
A nonprofit U.S. military watchdog said it has received hundreds of complaints about commanders providing religious reasons for starting the Iran war

You apparently need to reread all the stuff you have been reading about Jesus.
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Post by: Custard on March 03, 2026, 11:26:23 AM
I think tempo respects this guy’s opinions so maybe he’ll watch it:

https://x.com/thatskaizen/status/2028574064261140705?s=46
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Post by: alum74 on March 03, 2026, 12:20:35 PM
The objective is to find someone to "cut a deal with"... See Venezuela. You think the dopes in Iran would have looked at Venezuela and seen what to do to remain alive and in power.

I don’t think Iran’s current leadership, probably a mix of clerics and Iranian Revolutionary Guard members, is looking at Venezuela.  However, it is probable that they recall the events of seventy years ago, when the United States and Britain orchestrated a coup to topple Iran’s prime minister (aka "Operation Ajax").   

In the span of a few days Trump has gone from saying this will be a quick war, less than 4 weeks, to now saying it can go on forever.  He went from claiming Iran wants to negotiate to saying it’s too late for negotiations. 

Iran appears unwilling to negotiate, and we don't have enough munitions to fight forever.  Looks like their strategy is to disrupt oil and gas infrastructure in the region, close the Strait of Hormuz and drive up global energy prices and inflation.   
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 01:12:03 PM
I don’t think Iran’s current leadership, probably a mix of clerics and Iranian Revolutionary Guard members, is looking at Venezuela.  However, it is probable that they recall the events of seventy years ago, when the United States and Britain orchestrated a coup to topple Iran’s prime minister (aka "Operation Ajax").   

In the span of a few days Trump has gone from saying this will be a quick war, less than 4 weeks, to now saying it can go on forever.  He went from claiming Iran wants to negotiate to saying it’s too late for negotiations. 

Iran appears unwilling to negotiate, and we don't have enough munitions to fight forever.  Looks like their strategy is to disrupt oil and gas infrastructure in the region, close the Strait of Hormuz and drive up global energy prices and inflation.

Of course they didn't look at Venezuela.  They weren't negotiating at all, allegedly. Now Trump is going to try and get the Kurds to serve as our proxy army in Iran. Turkey has to be loving this. And Venezuela is upping its oil output.

Meanwhile, they fell for the bait and their Hezbollah buddies have to start wondering if their cell phones are booby trapped again.
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Post by: Reacher on March 03, 2026, 01:25:37 PM
Here's your reason for the latest war, Tempo.

https://www.themirror.com/news/world-news/commanders-tell-troops-trump-anointed-1715791?1=

US commanders tell troops Trump 'anointed by Jesus' to start Iran war sparking hundreds of complaints
A nonprofit U.S. military watchdog said it has received hundreds of complaints about commanders providing religious reasons for starting the Iran war

You apparently need to reread all the stuff you have been reading about Jesus.

LOL
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Post by: Reacher on March 03, 2026, 01:28:20 PM
Of course they didn't look at Venezuela.  They weren't negotiating at all, allegedly. Now Trump is going to try and get the Kurds to serve as our proxy army in Iran. Turkey has to be loving this. And Venezuela is upping its oil output.

Meanwhile, they fell for the bait and their Hezbollah buddies have to start wondering if their cell phones are booby trapped again.

I’ll take “Something an actual Democrat would never say for $600, Alex.”
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Post by: Reacher on March 03, 2026, 01:32:19 PM
I don’t think Iran’s current leadership, probably a mix of clerics and Iranian Revolutionary Guard members, is looking at Venezuela.  However, it is probable that they recall the events of seventy years ago, when the United States and Britain orchestrated a coup to topple Iran’s prime minister (aka "Operation Ajax").   

In the span of a few days Trump has gone from saying this will be a quick war, less than 4 weeks, to now saying it can go on forever.  He went from claiming Iran wants to negotiate to saying it’s too late for negotiations. 

Iran appears unwilling to negotiate, and we don't have enough munitions to fight forever.  Looks like their strategy is to disrupt oil and gas infrastructure in the region, close the Strait of Hormuz and drive up global energy prices and inflation.

Iran agreed to virtually everything the U.S. (and Israel) wanted. Except for regime change. There was never going to be a peace deal because our side didn’t want peace. They want the complete dismantling of Iran as a regional power. Period. Full stop. Anyone thinking otherwise is kidding themselves.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5759623-iran-nuclear-deal-stockpiling/amp/
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Post by: Reacher on March 03, 2026, 01:35:02 PM
I think tempo respects this guy’s opinions so maybe he’ll watch it:

https://x.com/thatskaizen/status/2028574064261140705?s=46

I’ve been finding him a bit more slanted the more I hear him talk. If it’s propaganda you’d think we’d have denied it. Have we denied this happened?
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 01:47:18 PM
I’ll take “Something an actual Democrat would never say for $600, Alex.”

Just providing facts. No ideology is required.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 01:50:38 PM
Iran agreed to virtually everything the U.S. (and Israel) wanted. Except for regime change. There was never going to be a peace deal because our side didn’t want peace. They want the complete dismantling of Iran as a regional power. Period. Full stop. Anyone thinking otherwise is kidding themselves.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5759623-iran-nuclear-deal-stockpiling/amp/

Not according to Axios' reporting. The Iranians were stalling and had stockpiled nuclear stuff for "medical research" that, shockingly, had not been used for "medical research."
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Post by: Reacher on March 03, 2026, 02:02:04 PM
Not according to Axios' reporting. The Iranians were stalling and had stockpiled nuclear stuff for "medical research" that, shockingly, had not been used for "medical research."

Everyone with a brain knows Iran was not an immediate threat, especially to the U.S.
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Post by: Jobu on March 03, 2026, 02:14:29 PM
Israel wanted to fuck them up. And ol Ben convinced the orange dummy to help him out. And there isn't anyone to tell the orange dummy, hey, this probably isn't a good idea. We shouldn't do that. Because it's all yes men now.

Whatever. It's obviously going to get worse. And worse. But hey, fatass can still get cheap milk and eggs. So it's fine.
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Post by: Reacher on March 03, 2026, 03:19:55 PM
Turkey will be next. A NATO member; and isn’t it convenient that Trump has turned NATO on its head.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 03:34:37 PM
Everyone with a brain knows Iran was not an immediate threat, especially to the U.S.

Never said they were. They were, allegedly, not negotiating. Between that, Venezuela, and Trump having Sec Drinky move assets to the Gulf, they should have realized Trump was not bluffing.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 03:36:19 PM
Israel wanted to fuck them up. And ol Ben convinced the orange dummy to help him out. And there isn't anyone to tell the orange dummy, hey, this probably isn't a good idea. We shouldn't do that. Because it's all yes men now.

Whatever. It's obviously going to get worse. And worse. But hey, fatass can still get cheap milk and eggs. So it's fine.

Sure sounds like good ol' MBS was whispering in Trump's ear too. Who knows who else over there was flattering Trump to make this move.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 03, 2026, 03:37:20 PM
Never said they were. They were, allegedly, not negotiating. Between that, Venezuela, and Trump having Sec Drinky move assets to the Gulf, they should have realized Trump was not bluffing.

The guy was 86. Dying soon. The best thing he could do was be a martyr for the cause and go viral

Who cares if Trump is bluffing or not. An attack is a feature not a bug for the jihadists
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 03:39:07 PM
The guy was 86. Dying soon. The best thing he could do was be a martyr for the cause and go viral

Who cares if Trump is bluffing or not. An attack is a feature not a bug for the jihadists

Well there was a bunch of martys over there in about 30 seconds time that FAFO.
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Post by: illiniray on March 03, 2026, 04:04:25 PM
Beat them into submission seems like a great way to win friends and influence people..
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Post by: Jobu on March 03, 2026, 04:12:33 PM
I like nichi's new avatar
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 04:14:57 PM
Beat them into submission seems like a great way to win friends and influence people..

Tempo can attest to it!
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Post by: illiniray on March 03, 2026, 04:19:28 PM
FAFO.

AI Overview

FAFO is an acronym for "Fuck Around and Find Out," a slang phrase warning that careless, reckless, or antagonistic actions (f---ing around) will lead to negative, often severe, consequences (finding out). While popular in online memes and, more recently, among far-right groups, it is believed to have originated in African American slang and has been used in motorcycle gang culture.

Key Details About FAFO:

*Meaning: It acts as a stern warning or an "I told you so," similar to "if you play with fire, you're going to get burned". It is also used to express schadenfreude—delight in someone else's misfortune.

*Origin & Popularity: While its precise origin is uncertain, it is thought to have come from African American Vernacular English (AAVE) and was later used by motorcycle gangs.

*Key Users & Associations:

-Political/Public Figures: Used by Donald Trump (including an AI-generated image), Elon Musk, Senator Ted Cruz, Rep. Dan Crenshaw, and Texas Governor Greg Abbott.

-Groups: Adopted as a slogan by the Proud Boys.

-Usage: It saw a surge in popularity in 2021-2022 and has continued to be used in political, military (e.g., Pete Hegseth), and social media contexts
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Post by: illiniray on March 03, 2026, 04:21:31 PM
I like nichi's new avatar

(https://i.ibb.co/MHNTKDc/Screenshot-20260303-151530-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/90YXB9b)
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 03, 2026, 04:31:21 PM
AI Overview

FAFO is an acronym for "Fuck Around and Find Out," a slang phrase warning that careless, reckless, or antagonistic actions (f---ing around) will lead to negative, often severe, consequences (finding out). While popular in online memes and, more recently, among far-right groups, it is believed to have originated in African American slang and has been used in motorcycle gang culture.

Key Details About FAFO:

*Meaning: It acts as a stern warning or an "I told you so," similar to "if you play with fire, you're going to get burned". It is also used to express schadenfreude—delight in someone else's misfortune.

*Origin & Popularity: While its precise origin is uncertain, it is thought to have come from African American Vernacular English (AAVE) and was later used by motorcycle gangs.

*Key Users & Associations:

-Political/Public Figures: Used by Donald Trump (including an AI-generated image), Elon Musk, Senator Ted Cruz, Rep. Dan Crenshaw, and Texas Governor Greg Abbott.

-Groups: Adopted as a slogan by the Proud Boys.

-Usage: It saw a surge in popularity in 2021-2022 and has continued to be used in political, military (e.g., Pete Hegseth), and social media contexts

They apparently did not believe Trump was going to act. Fits the bill.
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Post by: Custard on March 04, 2026, 12:06:25 AM
But hey, fatass can still get cheap milk and eggs. So it's fine.

And so can you!
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Post by: Custard on March 04, 2026, 01:10:56 AM
I don’t think Iran’s current leadership, probably a mix of clerics and Iranian Revolutionary Guard members, is looking at Venezuela.  However, it is probable that they recall the events of seventy years ago, when the United States and Britain orchestrated a coup to topple Iran’s prime minister (aka "Operation Ajax").   

In the span of a few days Trump has gone from saying this will be a quick war, less than 4 weeks, to now saying it can go on forever.  He went from claiming Iran wants to negotiate to saying it’s too late for negotiations. 

Iran appears unwilling to negotiate, and we don't have enough munitions to fight forever.  Looks like their strategy is to disrupt oil and gas infrastructure in the region, close the Strait of Hormuz and drive up global energy prices and inflation.

You think we’ll run out of munitions and need their oil?
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 02:28:36 AM
Never said they were. They were, allegedly, not negotiating. Between that, Venezuela, and Trump having Sec Drinky move assets to the Gulf, they should have realized Trump was not bluffing.

Except they were negotiating. They’d made every reasonable concession. What they were being told to do was regime change and give up their main form of self defense, their ICBMS. No fucking way they were doing that.
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 02:30:03 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOL this is a worse succession plan than hiring Chris Getz to replace Rick and Kenny.

(https://i.postimg.cc/28wDCB6C/IMG-5784.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TppS91gs)
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 07:31:50 AM
If this happened under Obama or Biden, it would be a national scandal on the scale of “Benghazi!”

(https://i.postimg.cc/Zn7rGBjp/IMG-5788.png) (https://postimg.cc/n9mj7Lyh)

https://x.com/thetnholler/status/2029078310056022355?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 04, 2026, 07:41:20 AM
Except they were negotiating. They’d made every reasonable concession. What they were being told to do was regime change and give up their main form of self defense, their ICBMS. No fucking way they were doing that.

So you are admitting they refused to negotiate on certain issues. Guess they didn't read the room very well.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 04, 2026, 09:37:25 AM
Them: 'you want us to give up our ICBMs ? '

Us: 'yep'

Them: 'over our dead bodies'

Us: 'if you say so'

Tempo: 'the ICBMs were only for their self-defense'
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Post by: Custard on March 04, 2026, 09:56:23 AM
So you are admitting they refused to negotiate on certain issues. Guess they didn't read the room very well.

Oddly enough, even the failing New York Times managed to put together a morning email that outlined the reasoning, strategy, and goals behind the strike on Iran. The White House sent a letter to Congress and there have been briefings. Tempo claims this info isn’t out there.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 04, 2026, 10:26:09 AM
The big irony here is that this hard line hard right administration in the US is out there asking the people of Iran to overthrow their hard right government- like I mean, what people would want to be under the yoke of a hardline government, surely they don’t like it!
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 11:21:14 AM
Oddly enough, even the failing New York Times managed to put together a morning email that outlined the reasoning, strategy, and goals behind the strike on Iran. The White House sent a letter to Congress and there have been briefings. Tempo claims this info isn’t out there.

You mean the article that was posted 5 hours ago?
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 11:23:45 AM
Oddly enough, even the failing New York Times managed to put together a morning email that outlined the reasoning, strategy, and goals behind the strike on Iran. The White House sent a letter to Congress and there have been briefings. Tempo claims this info isn’t out there.

Was really considerate of The White House to notify Congress with a letter a few days after bombing began.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Pxgc10VG/IMG-5792.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XGgQb10x)get a direct link to a photo (https://postimages.org/)
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 04, 2026, 12:01:01 PM
Was really considerate of The White House to notify Congress with a letter a few days after bombing began.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Pxgc10VG/IMG-5792.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XGgQb10x)get a direct link to a photo (https://postimages.org/)
Is there a problem ?
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 12:20:23 PM
Usually you’d consult Congress, or make your case before bombing.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 04, 2026, 12:28:25 PM
Usually you’d consult Congress, or make your case before bombing.

Thought they met with the Gang of 8 beforehand....
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 04, 2026, 12:40:39 PM
Usually you’d consult Congress, or make your case before bombing.
Would that apply to previous Presidents ? Or just to Trump ?
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 04, 2026, 12:43:40 PM
Thought they met with the Gang of 8 beforehand....
You probably read or heard about members of the Gang of Eight expressing their thoughts on the briefing that had occured before the bombing began.
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Post by: illiniray on March 04, 2026, 12:54:09 PM
The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 04, 2026, 01:06:50 PM
You probably read or heard about members of the Gang of Eight expressing their thoughts on the briefing that had occured before the bombing began.

How is that possible when I am not on The Twotter?
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 04, 2026, 01:08:08 PM
The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.

Tempo would be learning more reading here then reading the misinformation on The Twotter.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 04, 2026, 01:17:20 PM
How is that possible when I am not on The Twotter?
Maybe fake news CNN soundbites or clipped videos ? How about the Tok Tik app ?
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 04, 2026, 01:23:57 PM
Maybe fake news CNN soundbites or clipped videos ? How about the Tok Tik app ?

Nope. Yet I somehow knew they met  beforehand and Mr. Twotter didn't?
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 01:30:46 PM
Thought they met with the Gang of 8 beforehand....

Congress. Not just the leaders. As in take a vote. It would have passed anyway. Meaning what Trump is doing isn’t really lawful. Not that he cares.
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 01:32:03 PM
Nope. Yet I somehow knew they met  beforehand and Mr. Twotter didn't?

You’re a lawyer who doesn’t know how the law works…
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 04, 2026, 01:55:31 PM
You’re a lawyer who doesn’t know how the law works…

The war powers act? You sure about that? Did he notify Congress within 48 hours or not?

Plenty to question and criticize here, but not sure a violation of the war powers act occured. You don't need to throw all the spaghetti against the wall on this one.

You may be getting more misinformation from your Soviet and Chinese bots on The Twotter.
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 02:35:59 PM
The war powers act? You sure about that? Did he notify Congress within 48 hours or not?

Plenty to question and criticize here, but not sure a violation of the war powers act occured. You don't need to throw all the spaghetti against the wall on this one.

You may be getting more misinformation from your Soviet and Chinese bots on The Twotter.

Look up the word “deployed.”
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 02:45:25 PM
And as usual, Trump has been moving goal posts on a daily basis.
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 02:52:27 PM
Apparently PAMan is not bright enough to pick up on the fact my primary issue is with Citizen’s United, not “raising money!”
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 04, 2026, 02:57:32 PM
Apparently PAMan is not bright enough to pick up on the fact my primary issue is with Citizen’s United, not “raising money!”

Goalposts moved, I see.

You have bitched about money, and how it purportedly preordains who wins, as well as Citizens United....
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 04, 2026, 03:01:59 PM
Thought they met with the Gang of 8 beforehand....

The board of peace
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 04, 2026, 03:03:54 PM
Look up the word “deployed.”

And he's got 48 hours to notify Congress after they are engaged in hostilities.

Is he supposed to consult beforehand? Yes, but it is undefined what that actually means. Ergo the Gang of 8 meetings that occur before these situations.

War Powers Resolution: Expedited Procedures in the House and Senate | Congress.gov | Library of Congress https://share.google/9HSi6p2Ccx2bK3vyp

Your The Twotter algorithm must be filled with Soviet and Chinese bots providing misinformation galore. They probably said Fields was going to be an awesome QB too.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 04, 2026, 03:05:03 PM
The board of peace

Actually, the Bored of Peace.
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Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2026, 03:11:29 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/CL9CCt8q/IMG-5795.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wh6JT5XN)

Look at this, we’re a perfect 8 for 8 on the AIPAC tracker. Color me shocked. “Contributions” totaling  well over 25 million dollars by the quick math in my head. And PAMan says money doesn’t corrupt our government.

https://www.trackaipac.com/

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Post by: ThePAMan on March 04, 2026, 03:20:59 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/CL9CCt8q/IMG-5795.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wh6JT5XN)

Look at this, we’re a perfect 8 for 8 on the AIPAC tracker. Color me shocked. “Contributions” totaling  well over 25 million dollars by the quick math in my head. And PAMan says money doesn’t corrupt our government.

https://www.trackaipac.com/

You realize the Gang of 8 didn't make the decision here and its members are chosen by statute, right?

Who else contributed to all these people chosen by statute to be in the Gang of 8?

#StandUpToProgressiveJewishHate
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Post by: illiniray on March 04, 2026, 06:05:04 PM
AI Mode

"President Trump has been anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth.”

As of March 2026, over 200 U.S. service members have filed complaints with the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) alleging that military commanders used this specific language to describe the war in Iran. The reports, first detailed by independent journalist Jonathan Larsen, state that some commanders told their units that strikes on Iran are part of "God's divine plan" and that President Trump was "anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon".

Key details regarding these allegations include:

"Scope of Complaints: The MRFF reports receiving complaints from more than 40 different units across at least 30 military installations, spanning all branches including the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Space Force.

*Nature of the Rhetoric: Commanders allegedly cited the New Testament's Book of Revelation to frame the conflict as a biblically sanctioned step toward the end times and the return of Jesus Christ.

*Impact on Troops: Service members of various faiths, including Christians, Muslims, and Jews, have expressed that such rhetoric undermines morale, violates the separation of church and state, and conflicts with their constitutional oaths.

*Official Response: The Pentagon has not publicly issued guidance framing the Iran campaign in religious terms and did not immediately respond to requests for comment on these specific allegations.

*Context: The complaints emerge amid reports of expanded evangelical programming within the Pentagon under Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, including prayer sessions and Bible studies.
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Post by: Reacher on March 05, 2026, 06:22:53 AM
Please don’t conflate “Jews” with far right-wing Israeli aggression. You’re too educated to be that lazy.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 05, 2026, 07:30:07 AM
Please don’t conflate “Jews” with far right-wing Israeli aggression. You’re too educated to be that lazy.

Yet, you continue to only cite one group out of many. Point stands. Progressives remain Hamas supporting America hating trash that have to be stopped before they fuck up the country worse than the Trumpers.
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Post by: Reacher on March 05, 2026, 08:28:10 AM
LOL
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 05, 2026, 09:08:22 AM
Which side will Canada be on, the rights of Iran in it's own self-defense or the saving of humanity ?


Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING: Canada Prime Minister Mark Carney says he can't rule out military participation in Iran war
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 06, 2026, 01:55:44 PM
Trump says no deal with Iran until ‘unconditional surrender

Germany - surrendered when the allies got to Berlin, and Hitler killed himself

Japan - surrendered after a nuke

North Korea - never surrendered

Trump thinks he’s fighting Germany. The Iranians are probably crazier than the North Koreans

Good luck to us all
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Post by: Reacher on March 06, 2026, 02:03:04 PM
When people tell you who they are, believe them!

https://x.com/7signxx/status/2029866382381232524?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: Custard on March 06, 2026, 03:17:18 PM
When people tell you who they are, believe them!

https://x.com/7signxx/status/2029866382381232524?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

You should occasionally read the comments before rushing to post X posts here, usually there is context or correction or explanation.
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Post by: Custard on March 07, 2026, 12:30:40 AM
More apparently “slanted” coverage (because it doesn’t confirm Tempo’s bias) but does a nice job factually explaining the situation

https://x.com/thatskaizen/status/2030073012062503009?s=46
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Post by: Reacher on March 07, 2026, 07:00:42 AM
You should occasionally read the comments before rushing to post X posts here, usually there is context or correction or explanation.

What did I miss?
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Post by: Reacher on March 07, 2026, 07:01:16 AM
More apparently “slanted” coverage (because it doesn’t confirm Tempo’s bias) but does a nice job factually explaining the situation

https://x.com/thatskaizen/status/2030073012062503009?s=46

Absolutely delusional.
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Post by: Reacher on March 07, 2026, 07:05:09 AM
More apparently “slanted” coverage (because it doesn’t confirm Tempo’s bias) but does a nice job factually explaining the situation

https://x.com/thatskaizen/status/2030073012062503009?s=46

He's not sharing anything new. A lot of what he says is factually correct, but Israel is a huge reason we're doing this.
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Post by: Reacher on March 07, 2026, 07:07:29 AM
8 months ago Trump was bragging about how they set back Iran's nuclear ambitions years if not a generation, what changed? Now all the sudden they were about 2 weeks away from a nuke? Bullshit
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 07, 2026, 12:18:31 PM
You should occasionally read the comments before rushing to post X posts here, usually there is context or correction or explanation.

His attention span is too short even for The Twotter.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 07, 2026, 12:19:30 PM
8 months ago Trump was bragging about how they set back Iran's nuclear ambitions years if not a generation, what changed? Now all the sudden they were about 2 weeks away from a nuke? Bullshit

Shocking that Trump has ever exaggerated anything..... Figured you would have figured that out by now.
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Post by: Custard on March 07, 2026, 12:43:28 PM
8 months ago Trump was bragging about how they set back Iran's nuclear ambitions years if not a generation, what changed? Now all the sudden they were about 2 weeks away from a nuke? Bullshit

I thought they were trying to topple the regime?
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Post by: Reacher on March 07, 2026, 02:00:02 PM
I thought they were trying to topple the regime?

Yes, which makes it even weirder that they were in "negotiations."
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Post by: Reacher on March 07, 2026, 02:00:45 PM
I thought they were trying to topple the regime?

Trump literally said Iran was perhaps two weeks away from having a nuke, which is total.bullshit.
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Post by: Reacher on March 07, 2026, 02:01:39 PM
Shocking that Trump has ever exaggerated anything..... Figured you would have figured that out by now.

Sure, but I figured the damage was somewhere between "a generation/two weeks."
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Post by: Reacher on March 07, 2026, 02:03:02 PM
His attention span is too short even for The Twotter.

Good one! Now just throw in a "Parkins!" Or a "Bernstein!" Or "The Score!"
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 07, 2026, 06:07:15 PM
I thought they were trying to topple the regime?

Pretty clear here - cut off oil production in the Middle East to benefit US producers. Not US consumers mind you - producers
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2026, 12:19:35 AM
Sure, but I figured the damage was somewhere between "a generation/two weeks."

Well, Trump is playing you. Remember The Epstein File?
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2026, 12:20:24 AM
Good one! Now just throw in a "Parkins!" Or a "Bernstein!" Or "The Score!"

All accurate since you have the attention span of a gnat.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2026, 12:23:28 AM
Pretty clear here - cut off oil production in the Middle East to benefit US producers. Not US consumers mind you - producers

Someone is paying attention to the fact that MBS was whispering in Trump's ear. But Bibi!!!! LOL. Tempo and the Progressives are the biggest morons. Fall for feint.
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Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2026, 12:32:12 AM
Well, Trump is playing you. Remember The Epstein File?

A long day of drinking has left your trolling skills diminished. Try again tomorrow.
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Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2026, 12:52:15 AM
Apocalyptic view of Tehran. Thanks for “liberating” us, Donald! Can’t help but notice how nicely paved the road is!

https://x.com/never_oppressed/status/2030407931229823459?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2026, 12:56:11 AM
A long day of drinking has left your trolling skills diminished. Try again tomorrow.

You will still be a sucker tomorrow
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Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2026, 01:07:17 AM
You will still be a sucker tomorrow

Great.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2026, 01:08:24 AM
Great.

Great for Trump....
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Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2026, 01:09:33 AM
Great for Trump....

I might tune into the score right now. Maybe that can help him get a 3rd term.
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Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2026, 01:09:55 AM
Or if I post something on Twitter.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2026, 01:21:29 AM
Grifters Elon Musk, Trump, and Monty Sweat, and All Pro Justin Fields thank you for your continued support.

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Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2026, 01:28:51 AM
Grifters Elon Musk, Trump, and Monty Sweat, and All Pro Justin Fields thank you for your continued support.

I do it for love of country.
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Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2026, 01:29:02 AM
https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/will-trump-back-down-saudi-arabia-uae-kuwait-qatar-rethink-us-investments/4164103/lite/
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Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 03:58:46 PM
https://youtube.com/shorts/0nyVj9t8Xcw
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2026, 04:04:34 PM
Bibi is going to be mad, Tempo!

Trump floats ENDING war in Iran after mysterious call with Putin https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15629925/Trump-floats-ENDING-war-Iran-mysterious-call-Putin.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton
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Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 04:11:44 PM
I’m hearing Trump wants a way out (by asking Iran for a cease fire), but Iran is saying fuck off because they know we’re just gonna stock up and hit them again.
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Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 04:13:18 PM
Anyway, back to the Epstein files. ZERO distractions allowed. From now on my kid feeds himself and gets himself to and from school.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2026, 04:57:54 PM
I’m hearing Trump wants a way out (by asking Iran for a cease fire), but Iran is saying fuck off because they know we’re just gonna stock up and hit them again.

I thought he was not running this?
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Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 05:18:53 PM
I thought he was not running this?

What part of “stock up and hit them again” did you miss?
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Post by: Judge Judy on March 09, 2026, 05:23:56 PM
The flip flopping Tempo and all the others of his liking continue to do, just to hate Trump and America, is astonishing…
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Post by: illiniray on March 09, 2026, 05:57:08 PM
fwiw
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/03/politics/patel-fbi-national-security-division-firings-iran
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Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 06:14:03 PM
The flip flopping Tempo and all the others of his liking continue to do, just to hate Trump and America, is astonishing…

Flip flopping on what? WTF are you talking about?

I’ve asked you 5x to name one thing you think Trump is likely guilty of (after you harangued me about how you “know he’s not a good guy”), and you’ve not named a single fucking thing. Why? Because you know you’re a fucking Trumper at heart.
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Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 06:14:28 PM
I thought he was not running this?

Hmmmm

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYxQGK4W/IMG-5915.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxXv1Zxt)
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Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 06:15:56 PM
The flip flopping Tempo and all the others of his liking continue to do, just to hate Trump and America, is astonishing…

What have I “flipped flopped” on, moron?
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Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 06:22:16 PM
Trump and Bibi both realizing they are tanking markets, and that this war isn’t as popular as they thought it would be is perfectly plausible. Significant damage has been and will be done before they leave.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 09, 2026, 06:43:21 PM
Trump and Bibi both realizing they are tanking markets, and that this war isn’t as popular as they thought it would be is perfectly plausible. Significant damage has been and will be done before they leave.

Market tanked.
Trump says "war is effectively over"
Market goes up.
Market closes.
Trump says "War is definitely not over"

The insider trading grift never ends.
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Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 07:47:45 PM
https://x.com/byoussef/status/2031082594104730046?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2026, 09:31:28 PM
What part of “stock up and hit them again” did you miss?

You just claimed he was talking ending it but the Iranians rebuffed him.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2026, 09:35:50 PM
Hmmmm

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYxQGK4W/IMG-5915.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxXv1Zxt)

Wait a second. Just this AM the Trump admin was upset Israel went too far in blowing up Iranian refineries. Now the Israelis are looking for an off ramp?

And isn't Lebanon asking Trump to mediate a ceasefire there?

You sure about whatever that guy is reporting on The Twotter? Seems to be inconsistencies flying around.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2026, 09:38:08 PM
Trump and Bibi both realizing they are tanking markets, and that this war isn’t as popular as they thought it would be is perfectly plausible. Significant damage has been and will be done before they leave.

I really don't think they give a shit. Trump Family probably gaming the market as we speak. Trump kids invested in a drone mfg.

By we know that if anything, you will continue hoping for the worst for the USA!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2026, 09:38:46 PM
Market tanked.
Trump says "war is effectively over"
Market goes up.
Market closes.
Trump says "War is definitely not over"

The insider trading grift never ends.

Exactly. Tempo doesn't understand the game here.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2026, 09:44:22 PM
Maybe he bought stock in Florsheim....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/03/09/trump-makes-his-shoes-the-white-house-uniform/
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 09:55:31 PM
You just claimed he was talking ending it but the Iranians rebuffed him.

Because they don’t trust him. And why should they?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 09:56:36 PM
Maybe he bought stock in Florsheim....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/03/09/trump-makes-his-shoes-the-white-house-uniform/

Glad they are solving the tough issues.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2026, 09:58:18 PM
Because they don’t trust him. And why should they?

Then why bring up that he was talking about ending it when you claim he isn't running it?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 11:20:52 PM
Seen a couple sources report Israel doesn’t want it to drag out either. Trump runs it as much as he wishes to. Probably depends on his mood, which I’m sure changes very regularly. Probably as often as his diaper.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2026, 11:21:33 PM
Trump could say no, but why would he, he benefits in so many ways.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 09, 2026, 11:46:33 PM
Yeah I would definitely trust some Irish economist dude on Twitter citing an anonymous source about Israel’s war plans. FFS this guy is throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks. It’s pure engagement farming.

Iran’s domestic defenses have been decimated and their ability to respond greatly diminished. Shocker, this isn’t really being reported on in Tempo’s algorithm.

The entire NYT email this morning was negative reporting about the conflict or whatever the fuck you want to call it.   100% negative with a ton of suppositions and fear porn with absolutely no mention of strategic victories against Iran’s defenses, what it might mean for the Middle East or the West writ large, etc. Not a word.

At this point they clearly only see this as fuel for the midterm fire, at the expense of basically shilling for Iran. Wild times.

This dude’s Twotter is an AI TDS fever dream that Robb would be proud of.

https://x.com/philippilk?s=21
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 07:42:56 AM
I can’t speak for certain what anyone’s war plans are or aren’t, all I am doing is sharing what’s being reported. I have heard it reported that Israel and the U.S. would like to wrap this up sooner, rather than later. And why wouldn’t they? It makes sense. It costs a lot of money to be there, and it’s disrupting markets; which we know matters to rich people.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 07:47:04 AM
Funny that Custard talks about how much ass we’re kicking isn’t reported in my “algorithm.” I’ll bet his algorithm is the Pete Kegsbreath algorithm. “We’re kicking ass, and we’re staying’!”

I’m well aware that we’ve done significant damage to Iran, what a fuckstick.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 07:48:30 AM
I can’t speak for certain what anyone’s war plans are or aren’t, all I am doing is sharing what’s being reported. I have heard it reported that Israel and the U.S. would like to wrap this up sooner, rather than later. And why wouldn’t they? It makes sense. It costs a lot of money to be there, and it’s disrupting markets; which we know matters to rich people.

Reported by whom? May want to vet your sources.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 07:49:44 AM
Funny that Custard talks about how much ass we’re kicking isn’t reported in my “algorithm.” I’ll bet his algorithm is the Pete Kegsbreath algorithm. “We’re kicking ass, and we’re staying’!”

I’m well aware that we’ve done significant damage to Iran, what a fuckstick.

You appear to be upset.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 07:52:34 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/that-video-of-epstein-and-trump-it-might-be-pro-iran-disinformation/ar-AA1XTmVF

That video of Epstein and Trump? It might be pro-Iran disinformation.

The video is indeed fake, disinformation researchers say. And the account is part of a pro-Iran propaganda network that has found viral success by tapping into the conspiracy theory that Trump attacked Iran to distract the public from the Epstein files.

These guys on Tempo's algorithm?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 10, 2026, 08:35:53 AM
Yeah I would definitely trust some Irish economist dude on Twitter citing an anonymous source about Israel’s war plans. FFS this guy is throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks. It’s pure engagement farming.

Iran’s domestic defenses have been decimated and their ability to respond greatly diminished. Shocker, this isn’t really being reported on in Tempo’s algorithm.

The entire NYT email this morning was negative reporting about the conflict or whatever the fuck you want to call it.   100% negative with a ton of suppositions and fear porn with absolutely no mention of strategic victories against Iran’s defenses, what it might mean for the Middle East or the West writ large, etc. Not a word.

At this point they clearly only see this as fuel for the midterm fire, at the expense of basically shilling for Iran. Wild times.

This dude’s Twotter is an AI TDS fever dream that Robb would be proud of.

https://x.com/philippilk?s=21
The Twotter dude is apparently including comments from David Ignatius.
Ignatius doesn't name the official who "requested anonimity".

Let me guess, other media organizations ran the same story from an anonymous source.
I'm guessing also that finding an anonymous source who will disagree with an administration's efforts is really not that difficult.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 10, 2026, 08:49:39 AM
You appear to be upset.

Which I would expect from someone like him when America is kicking Iran’s ass. Especially when it’s Trump doing it. Those Progressives don’t like that kind of stuff. They want us to lose and America destroyed. They’ve literally took the other side in every possible instance. It’s disturbing, but not surprising. Contrary to what Tempo thinks, even throwing money at their candidates isn’t gonna get those American haters elected…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 10, 2026, 08:57:30 AM
The Twotter dude is apparently including comments from David Ignatius.
Ignatius doesn't name the official who "requested anonimity".

Let me guess, other media organizations ran the same story from an anonymous source.
I'm guessing also that finding an anonymous source who will disagree with an administration's efforts is really not that difficult.

Exactly. Make some stuff up that you want to go viral, attribute it to an anonymous source or sources close to the situation who are not authorized to comment on it, and presto.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 10, 2026, 09:26:19 AM
Exactly. Make some stuff up that you want to go viral, attribute it to an anonymous source or sources close to the situation who are not authorized to comment on it, and presto.
This may be an example of what Nancy Pelosi termed "a wrap around smear."
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 10, 2026, 12:29:25 PM
Iran’s domestic defenses have been decimated and their ability to respond greatly diminished. Shocker, this isn’t really being reported on in Tempo’s algorithm.

19 random dudes with a couple million bucks destroyed the World Trade Center. We're just lucky that the Iranians aren't creative or evil enough to really mess with us.

Fentanyl in the water supply? Take out a random set of transmission towers across the US? I mean, you could do millions of dollars in damage to the US economy just by sending guys out to run out of gas on the highway at rush hour in random places on a daily basis.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 10, 2026, 12:32:33 PM
Which I would expect from someone like him when America is kicking Iran’s ass. Especially when it’s Trump doing it. Those Progressives don’t like that kind of stuff. They want us to lose and America destroyed. They’ve literally took the other side in every possible instance. It’s disturbing, but not surprising. Contrary to what Tempo thinks, even throwing money at their candidates isn’t gonna get those American haters elected…

What do we win? This isn't "TOTTM". It's not a game. If we go over there and kick their ass, but gas goes up by 50 cents a gallon - we LOSE. Guess what, gas has gone up by 50 cents a gallon. That has huge implications to the US Economy, both short and long term. I don't want that. Apparently you do.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 12:36:03 PM
19 random dudes with a couple million bucks destroyed the World Trade Center. We're just lucky that the Iranians aren't creative or evil enough to really mess with us.

Fentanyl in the water supply? Take out a random set of transmission towers across the US? I mean, you could do millions of dollars in damage to the US economy just by sending guys out to run out of gas on the highway at rush hour in random places on a daily basis.

You don't believe the Ayatollahs over there have thought about this stuff? Allegedly there are sleeper cells here. No clue what they are waiting for if they are actually here.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 12:36:49 PM
What do we win? This isn't "TOTTM". It's not a game. If we go over there and kick their ass, but gas goes up by 50 cents a gallon - we LOSE. Guess what, gas has gone up by 50 cents a gallon. That has huge implications to the US Economy, both short and long term. I don't want that. Apparently you do.

Good argument for electric cars and trucks. Run with that....
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 10, 2026, 12:40:47 PM
Good argument for electric cars and trucks. Run with that....

Natural gas prices are also spiking and windmills cause cancer. Nobody gets out alive.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 10, 2026, 12:41:25 PM
Good argument for electric cars and trucks. Run with that....

Rivian stock is way up today though....
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ridingthegrange on March 10, 2026, 12:42:02 PM
You don't believe the Ayatollahs over there have thought about this stuff? Allegedly there are sleeper cells here. No clue what they are waiting for if they are actually here.

I suggest keeping an eye on those South African immigrants, especially the Dutch.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 12:52:48 PM
Reported by whom? May want to vet your sources.

LOL
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 12:53:40 PM
Which I would expect from someone like him when America is kicking Iran’s ass. Especially when it’s Trump doing it. Those Progressives don’t like that kind of stuff. They want us to lose and America destroyed. They’ve literally took the other side in every possible instance. It’s disturbing, but not surprising. Contrary to what Tempo thinks, even throwing money at their candidates isn’t gonna get those American haters elected…

JFC you really are fucking stupid. And offensive.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 10, 2026, 12:54:08 PM
Good argument for electric cars and trucks. Run with that....

First-world problems. Or the fact we are keeping our adversaries from getting that oil and being more of a pain in our global neck. China has jumped light years ahead from where they were and mostly off the United States giving them everything. If we want that to stop, we have to do something different, and the benefits aren’t gonna happen over night. Murph is being very short sighted on the matter. You’d think as a billionaire he’d understand that and not cry about a $0.50 gas increase. What a pussy…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 12:55:52 PM
Not wanting us to get into a costly unnecessary war isn’t equivalent to “wanting America destroyed,” you fucking nitwit. I want America to be better; you think that’s not POSSIBLE, because you’re brainwashed by 30 years of Fox News. I love how you non-serving pussies feel like you’re entitled to lecture me on how to be American. Fuck right off.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 10, 2026, 12:55:58 PM
JFC you really are fucking stupid. And offensive.

Ok pro-Iranian bot. Continue on…

You’ve literally taken every anti-America stance since Trump has been President. I’d say that’s pretty unAmerican. No matter what he does you’ll never take his side or give even an ounce of credit. It’s baffling…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 12:57:53 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/that-video-of-epstein-and-trump-it-might-be-pro-iran-disinformation/ar-AA1XTmVF

That video of Epstein and Trump? It might be pro-Iran disinformation.

The video is indeed fake, disinformation researchers say. And the account is part of a pro-Iran propaganda network that has found viral success by tapping into the conspiracy theory that Trump attacked Iran to distract the public from the Epstein files.

These guys on Tempo's algorithm?

There are a large handful of reasons Trump attacked Iran.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 12:58:39 PM
Ok pro-Iranian bot. Continue on…

You’ve literally taken every anti-America stance since Trump has been President. I’d say that’s pretty unAmerican. No matter what he does you’ll never take his side or give even an ounce of credit. It’s baffling…

Go fucking join the military you couch clinging PATRIOT.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 01:01:27 PM
Join the Marines and INSIST you be sent to Iran.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 10, 2026, 01:02:27 PM
Go fucking join the military you couch clinging PATRIOT.

Again, there are lots of former military members who hate this or their country. And again, I had every intention of joining the Marines but couldn’t due to medical issues that happened during that time. I was more than willing. So don’t doubt my willingness. I love this country just as much as you claim to hate it…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on March 10, 2026, 01:23:11 PM
If you love your country; then you should want universal healthcare.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 10, 2026, 01:26:25 PM
If you love your country; then you should want universal healthcare.

Make it work and affordable and I’m all for it…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 01:32:52 PM
Again, there are lots of former military members who hate this or their country. And again, I had every intention of joining the Marines but couldn’t due to medical issues that happened during that time. I was more than willing. So don’t doubt my willingness. I love this country just as much as you claim to hate it…

You really are fucking clueless
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 01:36:24 PM
Make it work and affordable and I’m all for it…

That’s code for “We shouldn’t try it! But another round of tax cuts for the 1% sounds GREAT!”

Even PAMan, the staunchest “Democrat” on the forum exhibited this type of biased thinking yesterday. We are programmed to think we can’t have nice things, but you know what we can have?! More tax cuts for the richest Americans! And a huge military increases!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 01:39:08 PM
Since when the fuck is not wanting people (including Americans) to die in an unnecessary war, and spending national treasure we can’t afford “Un-American?” Such a warped brand of patriotism conservatives sell.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on March 10, 2026, 01:40:18 PM
Make it work and affordable and I’m all for it…

Much of the world has better healthcare outcomes for less money per capita. But we are better at killing people and blowing things up..
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 10, 2026, 01:41:47 PM
Much of the world has better healthcare outcomes for less money per capita. But we are better at killing people and blowing things up..

Is that why they all come here when they have a choice and can afford it?! 🤔
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 01:45:38 PM
Is that why they all come here when they have a choice and can afford it?! 🤔

Who’s “they?”
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on March 10, 2026, 01:46:15 PM
Is that why they all come here when they have a choice and can afford it?! 🤔

Are you serious? People come here  from shithole countries. Not from social democracies. Now, "they" don't even want to come to visit.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 01:46:33 PM
Fox News is so good at what they do. They literally make their watchers think EVERYONE wants to be an American.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 01:47:46 PM
I know a large handful of people who’ve left the country and couldn’t be happier. And I’m not dogging on the U.S. with that statement, but believe it or not, happy outcomes exist outside the U.S.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 01:48:44 PM
What are we going to do about the huge influx of Norwegians?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 02:40:36 PM
Not wanting us to get into a costly unnecessary war isn’t equivalent to “wanting America destroyed,” you fucking nitwit. I want America to be better; you think that’s not POSSIBLE, because you’re brainwashed by 30 years of Fox News. I love how you non-serving pussies feel like you’re entitled to lecture me on how to be American. Fuck right off.

Is this part of your long game to change hearts and minds? It will take you milleniums with these tactics.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 02:41:13 PM
There are a large handful of reasons Trump attacked Iran.

Wait, I thought Bibi was pulling the strings here.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 10, 2026, 02:47:02 PM
What do we win? This isn't "TOTTM". It's not a game. If we go over there and kick their ass, but gas goes up by 50 cents a gallon - we LOSE. Guess what, gas has gone up by 50 cents a gallon. That has huge implications to the US Economy, both short and long term. I don't want that. Apparently you do.

Temporary speculation, but just know that right now the US average gas price is 5 cents LESS than the AVERAGE for Biden’s entire term

There is no real problem with supply in the US.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 10, 2026, 02:54:26 PM
What are we going to do about the huge influx of Norwegians?

Send the ladies my way

https://youtu.be/ycAnnzdCgiI
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 02:55:38 PM
This seems to be one of those instances where you root for both teams to lose.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/zohran-mamdani-gracie-mansion-philadelphia/

On Saturday, an anti-Islam protest near Gracie Mansion, the New York City mayor's official residence, was organized by people associated with Jake Lang, a pardoned Jan. 6 rioter and far-right influencer, according to Tisch.

A group of more than 100 people also gathered at the same location for a counterprotest called "Run the Nazis Out of New York City/Stand Against Hate."

According to Tisch, Balat lit and threw an ignited device toward protesters. Witnesses told police they saw flames and smoke as the device traveled through the air before it struck a barrier and extinguished itself a few feet from police officers.

In a video from the scene, a man appears to yell "Allahu Akbar" — or "God is Most Great" — just as Balat throws the device. The CBS News Confirmed Team verified the videos. It is not clear from the videos who was shouting the words.

Tisch said Balat then ran southbound and got a second device from Kayumi. Balat allegedly lit the device and ran with it before dropping it on the west side of East End Avenue between East 86th and East 87th streets.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 10, 2026, 03:06:27 PM
First-world problems. Or the fact we are keeping our adversaries from getting that oil and being more of a pain in our global neck. China has jumped light years ahead from where they were and mostly off the United States giving them everything. If we want that to stop, we have to do something different, and the benefits aren’t gonna happen over night. Murph is being very short sighted on the matter. You’d think as a billionaire he’d understand that and not cry about a $0.50 gas increase. What a pussy…

Bikes don’t use gas - but unlike you I care about the common man
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 10, 2026, 03:09:29 PM
And again, I had every intention of joining the Marines but couldn’t due to medical issues that happened during that time.

You should have bucked up buttercup. Forest Gump was a retard and they let him in, why do you think your retardation would stop them from taking you?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 10, 2026, 03:12:27 PM
Temporary speculation, but just know that right now the US average gas price is 5 cents LESS than the AVERAGE for Biden’s entire term

There is no real problem with supply in the US.

Is your intent to go back to 1970’s style communism with price controls - basically nationalizing the US oil companies you commie?

If Iran blocks the strait of Hormuz and global oil prices go up - you gotta pay or they’ll sell the oil to China
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 03:12:56 PM
Bikes don’t use gas - but unlike you I care about the common man

Even when they vote for Trump?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 10, 2026, 03:13:45 PM
Even when they vote for Trump?

That’s why I advocate for better public education!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 03:44:32 PM
Is this part of your long game to change hearts and minds? It will take you milleniums with these tactics.

See, I told you you don’t have the patience.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 03:46:13 PM
Wait, I thought Bibi was pulling the strings here.

By and large. Doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t benefit in any way.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 04:30:52 PM
By and large. Doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t benefit in any way.

Either he is or he isn't. Which is it?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 04:33:10 PM
Either he is or he isn't. Which is it?

When it comes to war, there’s something in it for everybody. You new to current affairs?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 04:45:22 PM
When it comes to war, there’s something in it for everybody. You new to current affairs?

You have repeatedly claimed he is pulling the strings here. You have also repeatedly waffled on that claim. You are just like Trump talking about anything, especially about this war/excursion/police action, etc.

Besides affirming that you are the part of the same coin, different sides, which is it? Is he pulling the strings or not? Have you made up your mind or you going to keep doing your John Kerry Schtick?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 10, 2026, 05:00:30 PM
Is your intent to go back to 1970’s style communism with price controls - basically nationalizing the US oil companies you commie?

If Iran blocks the strait of Hormuz and global oil prices go up - you gotta pay or they’ll sell the oil to China

Thanks to our actions in Venezuela we don’t even need oil from the Middle East. And you guys said there wasn’t a plan!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 05:28:11 PM
I haven’t “waffled” on shit. We’re there because Israel wanted us there, that doesn’t mean Trump, his White House minions, and Lindsey Graham and Co. aren’t ecstatic about it. Both things can be true.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 05:30:50 PM
Thanks to our actions in Venezuela we don’t even need oil from the Middle East. And you guys said there wasn’t a plan!

Then why is the world shitting their pants over it, and I’m paying .72 cents more per gallon at the pump?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 10, 2026, 05:34:25 PM
Then why is the world shitting their pants over it, and I’m paying .72 cents more per gallon at the pump?

Uncertainty and speculation. We’ve been in an overproduction situation domestically for months. Even though we don’t need Middle East oil it takes time to modify supply chains and logistics. The far east relies much more heavily on middle eastern oil and oil from Iran.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 05:50:54 PM
I haven’t “waffled” on shit. We’re there because Israel wanted us there, that doesn’t mean Trump, his White House minions, and Lindsey Graham and Co. aren’t ecstatic about it. Both things can be true.

LOL. You said Bibi is pulling the strings. Either he is or he isn't.

Presidents have dealt with, and planned for war with, the Ayatollah scum since 1979. Here is an article that claims fracking, which allows the US to have sufficient supplies, allowed Trump to be the one to pull the trigger....

Fracking Killed Khamenei - by Quico Toro - Persuasion https://share.google/vDADDBAWrvS4ocZok
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 05:51:27 PM
I haven’t “waffled” on shit. We’re there because Israel wanted us there, that doesn’t mean Trump, his White House minions, and Lindsey Graham and Co. aren’t ecstatic about it. Both things can be true.

And yes, you have Tempoed on the war....
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 05:52:39 PM
Uncertainty and speculation. We’ve been in an overproduction situation domestically for months. Even though we don’t need Middle East oil it takes time to modify supply chains and logistics. The far east relies much more heavily on middle eastern oil and oil from Iran.

The article on fracking notes that this is going to be far worse for everyone else than the US.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 06:02:29 PM
Uncertainty and speculation. We’ve been in an overproduction situation domestically for months. Even though we don’t need Middle East oil it takes time to modify supply chains and logistics. The far east relies much more heavily on middle eastern oil and oil from Iran.

Bro, it’s a racket. Just like war.
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Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 06:07:15 PM
LOL. You said Bibi is pulling the strings. Either he is or he isn't.

Presidents have dealt with, and planned for war with, the Ayatollah scum since 1979. Here is an article that claims fracking, which allows the US to have sufficient supplies, allowed Trump to be the one to pull the trigger....

Fracking Killed Khamenei - by Quico Toro - Persuasion https://share.google/vDADDBAWrvS4ocZok

I think Bibi and Israel are doing quite fine with a Donald Trump presidency.

(https://i.postimg.cc/B6N0t8bS/IMG-5929.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygJ5b80t)
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Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 06:08:55 PM
And yes, you have Tempoed on the war....

You don’t even know the definition of “Tempoing.” Tempoing was coined by Robb for when I would make repeated posts in a thread, instead of responding to multiple posts in a single post.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 06:10:08 PM
I think Bibi and Israel are doing quite fine with a Donald Trump presidency.

(https://i.postimg.cc/B6N0t8bS/IMG-5929.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygJ5b80t)

And I love the way they say “Donald Trump is the best U.S. president Israel has ever had.” So fitting.
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Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 06:18:22 PM
Part of that stemmed from the fact I’d post at 3am because I didn’t get off work until 1:00-1:30. I was usually the only one posting.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 10, 2026, 07:08:01 PM
The article on fracking notes that this is going to be far worse for everyone else than the US.

For natural gas - which is shipped by pipeline

Not for oil
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 07:26:34 PM
LOL. You said Bibi is pulling the strings. Either he is or he isn't.

Presidents have dealt with, and planned for war with, the Ayatollah scum since 1979. Here is an article that claims fracking, which allows the US to have sufficient supplies, allowed Trump to be the one to pull the trigger....

Fracking Killed Khamenei - by Quico Toro - Persuasion https://share.google/vDADDBAWrvS4ocZok

Quico Toro. Didn’t know PAMan was so warm to far-left columnists!

(https://i.postimg.cc/C1PwmvDh/IMG-5930.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 07:43:13 PM
Looks like PAMan’s guy Quico has a book a lot of people here could stand to read!

(https://i.postimg.cc/xj6P3L4k/IMG-5931.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14N69VPP)
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Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2026, 09:06:47 PM
Looks like DOGE missed a spot.

(https://i.postimg.cc/BQm8LgtK/IMG-5932.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5rGZR6s)
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 09:38:17 PM
Part of that stemmed from the fact I’d post at 3am because I didn’t get off work until 1:00-1:30. I was usually the only one posting.

And you were drunk
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2026, 09:40:29 PM
You don’t even know the definition of “Tempoing.” Tempoing was coined by Robb for when I would make repeated posts in a thread, instead of responding to multiple posts in a single post.

It was also straddling the fence on your opinions. Which is occuring here, without your usual Definitive Statement X, but it would not surprise you if Opposite of Definitive Statement X occured, though.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 10, 2026, 10:16:36 PM
Yes, Tempoing encompasses a lot of things specific to Tempo…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:16:57 AM
Yes, Tempoing encompasses a lot of things specific to Tempo…

I’m sure you think that’s clever.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:17:31 AM
It was also straddling the fence on your opinions. Which is occuring here, without your usual Definitive Statement X, but it would not surprise you if Opposite of Definitive Statement X occured, though.

Okerrrr
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 11, 2026, 08:30:14 AM
This seems to be one of those instances where you root for both teams to lose.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/zohran-mamdani-gracie-mansion-philadelphia/

On Saturday, an anti-Islam protest near Gracie Mansion, the New York City mayor's official residence, was organized by people associated with Jake Lang, a pardoned Jan. 6 rioter and far-right influencer, according to Tisch.

A group of more than 100 people also gathered at the same location for a counterprotest called "Run the Nazis Out of New York City/Stand Against Hate."

According to Tisch, Balat lit and threw an ignited device toward protesters. Witnesses told police they saw flames and smoke as the device traveled through the air before it struck a barrier and extinguished itself a few feet from police officers.

In a video from the scene, a man appears to yell "Allahu Akbar" — or "God is Most Great" — just as Balat throws the device. The CBS News Confirmed Team verified the videos. It is not clear from the videos who was shouting the words.

Tisch said Balat then ran southbound and got a second device from Kayumi. Balat allegedly lit the device and ran with it before dropping it on the west side of East End Avenue between East 86th and East 87th streets.
And the attorney said there is no evidence that they knew each other beforehand. One of those 'chance encounters' between 2 people with explosive devices.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 08:33:48 AM
And the attorney said there is no evidence that they knew each other beforehand. One of those 'chance encounters' between 2 people with explosive devices.

From Pennsylvania....
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 11, 2026, 09:08:32 AM
From Pennsylvania....
Anti-Islam protesters, denounced for being "rooted in bigotry and racism", get explosive devices thrown their way by Islamists counter protesting bigotry and racism.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 10:10:28 AM
And you were drunk

Once in a while.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 10:27:56 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8cQw48KQ/IMG-5940.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ5KjZVt)

https://x.com/thematrixb0t/status/2031558283551502687?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 10:55:26 AM
Once in a while.

Yet you denied it at the time when Robb claimed you were!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 11, 2026, 11:08:02 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8cQw48KQ/IMG-5940.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ5KjZVt)

https://x.com/thematrixb0t/status/2031558283551502687?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Did you unmute the video ?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 11, 2026, 11:16:55 AM
Yet you denied it at the time when Robb claimed you were!

Honesty and acceptance is the first step…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 11:18:51 AM
Honesty and acceptance is the first step…

He will also have to accept that there is a greater power than himself and The Twotter.
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Post by: Judge Judy on March 11, 2026, 11:25:19 AM
He will also have to accept that there is a greater power than himself and The Twotter.

Nah man, he’s got it all figured out. I’m mean, he is NEVER wrong, and smarter than us all! He even knows more about Jesus than Jesus. Just ask him…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:28:22 AM
Yet you denied it at the time when Robb claimed you were!

Occasionally being buzzed does not = “raging alcoholic.”
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:29:35 AM
Nah man, he’s got it all figured out. I’m mean, he is NEVER wrong, and smarter than us all! He even knows more about Jesus than Jesus. Just ask him…

I don’t have it all figured out, but at least I hasn’t been brainwashed by a lifetime of Fox News consumption.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 11, 2026, 11:30:37 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8cQw48KQ/IMG-5940.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ5KjZVt)

https://x.com/thematrixb0t/status/2031558283551502687?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
The video is from the Obama administration about a Colin Powell personal email that cited open sources. Colin Powell lost his security privileges 10 years prior.
And the white guy was a member of the Biden administration who took over much of the 1st openly gay black female's opportunities to not answer questions.

Nonetheless, I believe the dick head referred to is John Kirby, in spite of what Artificial Intelligence says.

(https://i.ibb.co/gLDV4mDw/Screenshot-20260311-111800-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B5gNncgj)
(https://i.ibb.co/YnbtB2s/Screenshot-20260311-112905-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/69N40YC)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:30:46 AM
Nah man, he’s got it all figured out. I’m mean, he is NEVER wrong, and smarter than us all! He even knows more about Jesus than Jesus. Just ask him…

Nice strawman, I’m sure the PAStrawman is proud.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:33:35 AM
Honesty and acceptance is the first step…

You can do better than this. Hell, calling me an America hater from your couch is probably better work than this.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 11:36:53 AM
The video is from the Obama administration about a Colin Powell personal email that cited open sources. Colin Powell lost his security privileges 10 years prior.
And the white guy was a member of the Biden administration who took over much of the 1st openly gay black female's opportunities to not answer questions.

Nonetheless, I believe the dick head referred to is John Kirby, in spite of what Artificial Intelligence says.

(https://i.ibb.co/gLDV4mDw/Screenshot-20260311-111800-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B5gNncgj)
(https://i.ibb.co/YnbtB2s/Screenshot-20260311-112905-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/69N40YC)

You mean that Tempo was duped by misinformation on The Twotter? Color me shocked!!!!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:37:40 AM
You mean that Tempo was duped by misinformation on The Twotter? Color me shocked!!!!

It’s a great question no matter which administration he served under. Doesn’t change a fuckin’ thing, really.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 11:38:07 AM
It’s a great question no matter which administration he served under. Doesn’t change a fuckin’ thing, really.

Shorter version: "Yes."
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 11, 2026, 11:39:49 AM
I don’t have it all figured out, but at least I hasn’t been brainwashed by a lifetime of Fox News consumption.

I HASN’T either, partner!
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Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:40:23 AM
Shorter version: "Yes."

Does not change a fuckin’ thing. It’s a great question; one that should be answered.
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Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:41:11 AM
I HASN’T either, partner!

Could’ve fooled me. You sound just like Jesse Watters.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 11, 2026, 11:41:41 AM
It’s a great question no matter which administration he served under. Doesn’t change a fuckin’ thing, really.

It does change the placement of the goalposts…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 11, 2026, 11:41:48 AM
It’s a great question no matter which administration he served under. Doesn’t change a fuckin’ thing, really.
Why do you hate Democrats ?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:42:34 AM
It does change the placement of the goalposts…

What part of “doesn’t change a fuckin’ thing” confuses you?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 11:43:27 AM
Does not change a fuckin’ thing. It’s a great question; one that should be answered.

You were duped again.

(https://i.postimg.cc/XpMJP8Cr/lucy-van-pelt-charlie-brown.gif) (https://postimg.cc/XpMJP8Cr)

Lucy = The Twotter Bots
Charles Brown = The Perpetually Easily Duped Tempo....

Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:44:46 AM
Why do you hate Democrats ?

Because they are bought and sold, too. I only “support” them because the only other realistic option is even worse.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:45:30 AM
You were duped again.

(https://i.postimg.cc/XpMJP8Cr/lucy-van-pelt-charlie-brown.gif) (https://postimg.cc/XpMJP8Cr)

Lucy = The Twotter Bots
Charles Brown = The Perpetually Easily Duped Tempo....

Doesn’t change a fuckin’ thing. How about you answer the question? Let’s start there.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 11:47:07 AM
Why do you hate Democrats ?

Because his favorite DSA Scum, Brandon Johnson, is stuck only trying to ruin Chicago instead of the whole country?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 11:48:43 AM
Doesn’t change a fuckin’ thing. How about you answer the question? Let’s start there.

No one cares besides you and the Soviet and Chinese Twotter bots you constantly get duped by.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:53:51 AM
No one cares besides you and the Soviet and Chinese Twotter bots you constantly get duped by.

Wrong answer. Bassem is right.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:55:23 AM
Because his favorite DSA Scum, Brandon Johnson, is stuck only trying to ruin Chicago instead of the whole country?

I have no strong feelings on Brandon Johnson. At all. Either way.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 11:56:03 AM
Wrong answer. Bassem is right.

Except it is readily apparent no one cares except you and the Soviet and Chinese Twotter Bots.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 11, 2026, 11:57:46 AM
Because his favorite DSA Scum, Brandon Johnson, is stuck only trying to ruin Chicago instead of the whole country?
Brandon appears to have like minded socialists in other cities to help in the national effort.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 11:58:14 AM
Except it is readily apparent no one cares except you and the Soviet and Chinese Twotter Bots.

Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 11:59:20 AM
I have no strong feelings on Brandon Johnson. At all. Either way.
Because you live in a lilly white suburb far from the spillover of his incompetence.

He's one of yours. You own his DSA/Progressive Scum incompetence.

You seem to disown all the Progressives who fuck things up after they are elected. Shocker!
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 11:59:34 AM
Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

And the rest of America's, obviously.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:00:49 PM
Because you live in a lilly white suburb far from the spillover of his incompetence.

He's one of yours. You own his DSA/Progressive Scum incompetence.

You seem to disown all the Progressives who fuck things up after they are elected. Shocker!

Here we go again. Back to Memeville for ThePAStrawman. From now on please refer to Itasca as Memeville. Please, and thank you.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:01:55 PM
I honestly couldn’t tell you what Brandon Johnson has done, or not done. I have bigger concerns at the moment.
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Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:02:25 PM
And the rest of America's, obviously.

In your head. Reality? Not as much.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:06:45 PM
Here we go again. Back to Memeville for ThePAStrawman. From now on please refer to Itasca as Memeville. Please, and thank you.

All factual. We have seen the demographics.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:07:21 PM
I honestly couldn’t tell you what Brandon Johnson has done, or not done. I have bigger concerns at the moment.

Being duped by The Twotter is not one of them, unfortunately.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:08:07 PM
In your head. Reality? Not as much.

Reality is not The Twotter or its algorithm. Despite your claims to the contrary.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:08:16 PM
I fail to see how I was duped.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:08:29 PM
I fail to see how I was duped.

Shocker.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:09:51 PM
Reality is not The Twotter or its algorithm. Despite your claims to the contrary.

Israel’s popularity in America is rapidly declining, but I doubt your algorithm confirms that. I know your stubbornness won’t.
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Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:10:28 PM
Shocker.

Perfectly valid question. Regardless of who they served under.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:11:57 PM
Israel’s popularity in America is rapidly declining, but I doubt your algorithm confirms that. I know your stubbornness won’t.

I don't have an algorithm since I've not been sucked into The Twotter like you have been.

Judge Judy needs to stop watching The Fox News as much as you need to get off The Twotter!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:12:39 PM
I don't have an algorithm since I've not been sucked into The Twotter like you have been.


Uhhhhh, yeah you do.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:12:58 PM
Perfectly valid question. Regardless of who they served under.

No one cares. They have had those nukes, allegedly, since the 1960s.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:13:40 PM
Uhhhhh, yeah you do.

I'm being The Twotter is claiming that. You've been duped AGAIN!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:14:41 PM
No one cares. They have had those nukes, allegedly, since the 1960s.

Then why do we care if Iran gets them? What good are “rules?” Israel is the only country allowed to break the rules? And I guess the US. Since we break them all the time, too?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 12:16:49 PM
Israel shouldn’t need our help since they have nukes, a competent army, a better standard of living; and oh yeah, The One True God.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:20:01 PM
Then why do we care if Iran gets them? What good are “rules?” Israel is the only country allowed to break the rules? And I guess the US. Since we break them all the time, too?

Ok. If this actually needs to be explained, you need to take your own medicine and get off The Twotter if you are going to continue lecturing Judge Judy about being brainwashed by Fox News....
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:22:38 PM
Israel shouldn’t need our help since they have nukes, a competent army, a better standard of living; and oh yeah, The One True God.

Guess God chose them. Lucky, I guess. Maybe you can withhold paying taxes to protest. It is apparently a thing now: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/11/trump-income-tax-protest

Meet the Americans withholding their federal income tax to protest against Trump

I am sure you could ask to go on The Twotter while in Club Fed.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 11, 2026, 12:22:54 PM
Perfectly valid question. Regardless of who they served under.
Did he ask Colin Powell ?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on March 11, 2026, 12:51:53 PM
Because you live in a lilly white suburb far from the spillover of his incompetence.

He's one of yours. You own his DSA/Progressive Scum incompetence.

You seem to disown all the Progressives who fuck things up after they are elected. Shocker!

Bingo! That had to hurt because it’s so fucking true…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 11, 2026, 01:23:28 PM
Great Substack article today went over two interesting things about this war.

1) Quinnipiac Polling showing this is the lowest approval after one week of any US intervention since 1940. Interesting is the sub-tabs - prior to intervening in Libya in 2011, approval by the US public was primarily a function of "is this war/intervention winnable". Since then, approval has very closely tracked "Does the party I favor hold the Presidency". 92% of Democrats are against the Iran incursion, 85% of Republicans are in favor.

2) US bombs have primarily focused on military targets - command/control, defensive weapons, etc.. Israel on the other hand has done substantial bombing of oil infrastructure. That's fact. The conclusion drawn - true or not - is that Israel pretty much wants to cripple Iran indefinitely by fucking up their economy, while Trump just wants new leadership that is more willing to let him control the oil, so he doesn't want the oil infrastructure disturbed (see also: The US focus on keeping Hormuz open, which Israel has not participated in).
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 11, 2026, 01:23:31 PM
Reggie Theus for mayor!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 11, 2026, 01:26:28 PM
Great Substack article today went over two interesting things about this war.

1) Quinnipiac Polling showing this is the lowest approval after one week of any US intervention since 1940. Interesting is the sub-tabs - prior to intervening in Libya in 2011, approval by the US public was primarily a function of "is this war/intervention winnable". Since then, approval has very closely tracked "Does the party I favor hold the Presidency". 92% of Democrats are against the Iran incursion, 85% of Republicans are in favor.

2) US bombs have primarily focused on military targets - command/control, defensive weapons, etc.. Israel on the other hand has done substantial bombing of oil infrastructure. That's fact. The conclusion drawn - true or not - is that Israel pretty much wants to cripple Iran indefinitely by fucking up their economy, while Trump just wants new leadership that is more willing to let him control the oil, so he doesn't want the oil infrastructure disturbed (see also: The US focus on keeping Hormuz open, which Israel has not participated in).

These polls are self fulfilling prophecy. The mainstream media like tfNYT provides one-sided coverage and then immediately runs out and takes a poll of the people who watched that coverage. No shit?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 11, 2026, 01:32:24 PM
These polls are self fulfilling prophecy. The mainstream media like tfNYT provides one-sided coverage and then immediately runs out and takes a poll of the people who watched that coverage. No shit?

Then why was this not true when Bush(es) invaded Iraq?

And the poll had crosstabs that included plenty of people who you would opine are *not* watching that coverage.
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Post by: Custard on March 11, 2026, 01:33:01 PM
Then why was this not true when Bush(es) invaded Iraq?

TDS hadn’t been invented yet
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 05:09:59 PM
Ok. If this actually needs to be explained, you need to take your own medicine and get off The Twotter if you are going to continue lecturing Judge Judy about being brainwashed by Fox News....

LOL the might makes right guy is speaking
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Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 05:11:02 PM
Guess God chose them. Lucky, I guess.

Sure he did. It’s factual.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 05:12:49 PM
Did he ask Colin Powell ?

He was not in attendance it seems.
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Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 05:14:09 PM
Bingo! That had to hurt because it’s so fucking true…

How do your posts keep getting dumber?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2026, 05:18:11 PM
These polls are self fulfilling prophecy. The mainstream media like tfNYT provides one-sided coverage and then immediately runs out and takes a poll of the people who watched that coverage. No shit?

70-75% of Americans opposed intervention in Iran, and that’s the best polling I saw for Trump. Some polls were 80 or more.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 05:21:13 PM
70-75% of Americans opposed intervention in Iran, and that’s the best polling I saw for Trump. Some polls were 80 or more.

And yet 80% or some ridiculous number, of Republicans approve of it apparently. Guess if you poll in NYC you get one answer, Florida another.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 05:40:01 PM
https://www.natesilver.net/p/will-iran-break-maga

To level-set, the war in Iran is not popular with Americans in general. Support for the strikes and approval of Trump’s approach to Iran are underwater in nearly every poll conducted since the start of the war, and the Iran War is less popular than other foreign conflicts were at their outset.4 To put some numbers to that, we averaged every Iran poll conducted since February 27. The war is opposed by 50 percent of Americans and supported by 40 percent.5

It’s a different story for Republicans, 77 percent of whom support the war, on average.

***

In large part, it’s because the Republican voters you’d expect to be most opposed to the war (at least ideologically) are actually the most supportive. Some pollsters release crosstabs for Republicans who identify with the MAGA movement. How they identify those voters varies — YouGov, for example, asks “Are you a MAGA supporter?” — so comparing these groups across different polls isn’t exactly apples to apples.

But in this case, the results are highly consistent: Republicans who identify with the MAGA movement are much more supportive of the war than Republicans in general. For example, RMG Research found that a group they call “Trump-policy voters” favored the US attack on Iran by a margin of +75, compared to just +35 among “traditional GOP voters.” Similarly, net support for using military force to overthrow the government of Iran is +68 among MAGA Republicans compared to just +11 among non-MAGA, according to YouGov.

That’s the opposite of what you’d expect ideologically, but it partially comes down to ambiguity about how voters self-identify as MAGA. Does MAGA mean voters who are extra Trumpy in a literal sense of tending to support everything that Trump does? Or do voters see the term as a stand-in for populist, anti-establishment conservatism of the sort you might associate with Carlson or Greene?

In practice, it’s probably the former. Across the board, Republican voters who identify with the MAGA movement tend to be more supportive of everything Trump does.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 05:46:38 PM
Today's lesson: always trust content from ThePAXeXemwhatever instead of The Uninformed Twotterslop posted by other posters here!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 11, 2026, 07:09:52 PM
And yet 80% or some ridiculous number, of Republicans approve of it apparently. Guess if you poll in NYC you get one answer, Florida another.

92% of Democrats oppose, 80% of independents oppose, 80% republicans support = 70% or so oppose
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 11, 2026, 07:12:48 PM
In practice, it’s probably the former. Across the board, Republican voters who identify with the MAGA movement tend to be more supportive of everything Trump does.

Summary - the only self generated thought in Custards head is “Trump Good”
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2026, 11:58:11 AM
Is there even a Plan B since it is obvious Plan A did not work?

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/trump-told-tankers-to-show-some-guts-then-they-were-bombed/

President Donald Trump told commercial ships waiting near the Strait of Hormuz to “show some guts.”

The comment came during a Sunday interview with Fox & Friends co-host Brian Kilmeade in which the president insisted Iran’s military had been effectively neutralized by recent U.S. strikes. Tehran, he said, no longer had the capacity to threaten maritime traffic through one of the most important oil chokepoints on the planet. There was little to fear. Tankers could move.

That framing collided almost immediately with events on the water.


Doesn't seem like it.

Buying Florsheims for everyone is not a plan.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2026, 11:58:59 AM
And yet 80% or some ridiculous number, of Republicans approve of it apparently. Guess if you poll in NYC you get one answer, Florida another.

You are SUCH a DEMOCRAT!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2026, 12:00:52 PM
Is there even a Plan B since it is obvious Plan A did not work?



I'm.guessing this is a rhetorical question, since they  didn't even have a coherent plan A.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2026, 12:02:11 PM
92% of Democrats oppose, 80% of independents oppose, 80% republicans support = 70% or so oppose

PAMan hates it when you use nuance. He.thinks.the world is black and white.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2026, 12:12:07 PM
I'm.guessing this is a rhetorical question, since they  didn't even have a coherent plan A.

Plan A was obviously modeled on Venezuela...keep the regime in place but the new leader makes a deal on oil.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2026, 12:13:04 PM
PAMan hates it when you use nuance. He.thinks.the world is black and white.

Except his math does not necessarily bear out (at this time). And you were wrong in your analysis as shown by the numbers.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2026, 12:50:36 PM
Plan A was obviously modeled on Venezuela...keep the regime in place but the new leader makes a deal on oil.

Well that wasn't very bright if that was the plan.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 12, 2026, 01:14:14 PM
I don't think the speaker spoke tho.

Iran says its new leader issued his 1st speech, vowing to keep Strait of Hormuz closed
Updated March 12, 20261:07 PM ET
By

NPR Staff
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2026, 01:39:14 PM
I don't think the speaker spoke tho.

Iran says its new leader issued his 1st speech, vowing to keep Strait of Hormuz closed
Updated March 12, 20261:07 PM ET
By

NPR Staff

He's in a coma.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 12, 2026, 02:02:00 PM
He's in a coma.
I heard that, which should take the legs out from underneath an NPR Supreme Leader speech story
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2026, 02:04:18 PM
I heard that, which should take the legs out from underneath an NPR Supreme Leader speech story

He probably used an autopen to write it.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 12, 2026, 02:23:46 PM
He probably used an autopen to write it.
The NPR staffer ? Or the 1 legged in a coma Supreme Leader ?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2026, 02:33:45 PM
The NPR staffer ? Or the 1 legged in a coma Supreme Leader ?

Both.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2026, 04:22:20 PM
He's in a coma.

Got a link?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2026, 05:24:29 PM
Got a link?

You have not seen this being reported? 

Here is an example: https://www.the-sun.com/news/16074023/iran-ayatollah-coma-lost-leg-regime-chaos/
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2026, 05:29:14 PM
Uhhhh, shouldn't it be "militarily possible" at this point if the US is willing to assist on the insurance, as The CIC has said we are?

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/12/iran-war-us-navy-strait-of-hormuz-oil-bessent.html

Iran War: U.S. Navy will escort oil tankers through Strait of Hormuz when ‘militarily possible,’ Bessent tells Sky News
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2026, 05:32:21 PM
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/emergency-siren-iran-drone-22073043.php

Emergency sirens in SF won't sound alarm even during Iranian drone threat

Better be prepared to peddle fast, Murph!
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Post by: Custard on March 12, 2026, 06:44:45 PM
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/emergency-siren-iran-drone-22073043.php

Emergency sirens in SF won't sound alarm even during Iranian drone threat

Better be prepared to peddle fast, Murph!

I can’t help but hear wicked witch music playing
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 12, 2026, 11:50:06 PM
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/emergency-siren-iran-drone-22073043.php

Emergency sirens in SF won't sound alarm even during Iranian drone threat

Better be prepared to peddle fast, Murph!

I will sell my wares as fast as I can!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2026, 11:21:33 AM
You have not seen this being reported? 

Here is an example: https://www.the-sun.com/news/16074023/iran-ayatollah-coma-lost-leg-regime-chaos/

Got anything more credible, like maybe the National Enquirer?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2026, 12:24:34 PM
Got anything more credible, like maybe the National Enquirer?

No one has seen the now one legged dude recently.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2026, 12:26:32 PM
No one has seen the now one legged dude recently.

Not sure I’d be putting myself out there if I was being bombed by the U.S. either.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2026, 12:27:23 PM
Not sure I’d be putting myself out there if I was being bombed by the U.S. either.

Ever hear of video taped messages? He can even hold up  copy of the NYT when speaking.
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Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2026, 12:57:07 PM
Ever hear of video taped messages? He can even hold up  copy of the NYT when speaking.

Not saying it’s not true, but it doesn’t appear the lamestream media is reporting it. Not even Hegseth, who says he’s likely “disfigured,” which doesn’t mean “in a coma.”
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Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2026, 12:58:00 PM
Ever hear of video taped messages? He can even hold up  copy of the NYT when speaking.

Are they airmailing the NYT via Tomahawk?
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2026, 01:00:34 PM
Are they airmailing the NYT via Tomahawk?

I would think The Flailing NYT has a publishing press there. Very popular there.
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Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2026, 01:23:58 PM
I would think The Flailing NYT has a publishing press there. Very popular there.

I’ll bet they love the crossword puzzles and style section!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2026, 05:53:39 PM
FWIW:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/comatose-mojtaba-khamenei-is-unaware-there-is-a-war-on-and-has-no-idea-he-is-supreme-leader/ar-AA1YxuCY
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2026, 05:58:18 PM
FWIW:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/comatose-mojtaba-khamenei-is-unaware-there-is-a-war-on-and-has-no-idea-he-is-supreme-leader/ar-AA1YxuCY

Bookmarked for the next time you accuse me of using a cheesy source!
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Post by: alum74 on March 13, 2026, 06:17:27 PM
FWIW:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/comatose-mojtaba-khamenei-is-unaware-there-is-a-war-on-and-has-no-idea-he-is-supreme-leader/ar-AA1YxuCY

Well…someone is directing attacks on ships, energy infrastructure, in addition to mining the Strait of Hormuz.

“Would the REAL Ayatollah please stand up, please stand up…(and announce surrender)? “
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2026, 06:52:52 PM
Bookmarked for the next time you accuse me of using a cheesy source!

I've given you two sources.
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Post by: Custard on March 13, 2026, 07:04:20 PM
Tempo clinging to hope against all common sense that the Ayatollah is actually ok is *chef’s kiss*
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Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2026, 10:52:09 PM
I've given you two sources.

That you would thoroughly mock me for if I used them.
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Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2026, 10:52:53 PM
Tempo clinging to hope against all common sense that the Ayatollah is actually ok is *chef’s kiss*

I don’t really give a shit. I’m holding PAMan to a standard. One he’d certainly hold me to.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 14, 2026, 01:39:24 AM
I don’t really give a shit. I’m holding PAMan to a standard. One he’d certainly hold me to.

The guy who cites sources wearing bucket hats in their videos thinks he is holding people accountable is hilarious.
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Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2026, 04:56:29 AM
The guy who cites sources wearing bucket hats in their videos thinks he is holding people accountable is hilarious.

He wasn’t the “source” nitwit. He was sharing and commenting on the story.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 14, 2026, 08:41:03 AM
He wasn’t the “source” nitwit. He was sharing and commenting on the story.

Even better.
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Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2026, 01:32:17 PM
Of course.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 16, 2026, 07:22:49 AM
Tempo should maybe change his avatar and name, but it would've surprise me if he didn't....

Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, has been advising US President Donald Trump to “keep hitting the Iranians hard,” White House officials told the New York Times in a report published on Sunday.
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Post by: illiniray on March 16, 2026, 09:53:53 AM
Tempo should maybe change his avatar and name, but it would've surprise me if he didn't....

Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, has been advising US President Donald Trump to “keep hitting the Iranians hard,” White House officials told the New York Times in a report published on Sunday.

Saudi = Sunni; Iran = Shi'a
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 16, 2026, 10:26:55 AM
Saudi = Sunni; Iran = Shi'a

Nah. Just money. The Iranians are competing in the oil business
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Post by: illiniray on March 16, 2026, 11:14:38 AM
Nah. Just money. The Iranians are competing in the oil business

Religion, politics, and money are still intertwined..
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 16, 2026, 12:12:40 PM
Nevertheless, MBS has Trump's ear, probably moreso than Bibi.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 16, 2026, 12:15:12 PM
Maybe being a shithead to our traditional allies wasn't the smartest move. Maybe he could get Russia to help us since he loves sucking Putin's cock.... Too bad Putin is assisting the Iranians though. Ooops.

https://archive.is/l19aG

Donald Trump has warned that Nato faces a “very bad” future if US allies fail to assist in opening up the Strait of Hormuz, sending a blunt message to European nations to join his war effort in Iran.
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Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2026, 01:43:38 PM
Nevertheless, MBS has Trump's ear, probably moreso than Bibi.

LOL
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 16, 2026, 01:53:14 PM
LOL

MBS is a smart mf'er. Have to give him credit.
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Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 01:39:44 PM
Nevertheless, MBS has Trump's ear, probably moreso than Bibi.

(https://i.postimg.cc/gjXXcXN9/IMG-6051.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jnTdZjpv)
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 01:55:36 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/gjXXcXN9/IMG-6051.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jnTdZjpv)

Tucker Carlson's guy resigned. Reas that many Republicans are rejoicing as well as Democrats!
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Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 03:27:17 PM
Charged with no crime but locked up for a year. Some people here voted for this.

https://x.com/nytimes/status/2033671218700734579?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 03:32:08 PM
Tucker Carlson's guy resigned. Reas that many Republicans are rejoicing as well as Democrats!

You sound quite happy about it.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 17, 2026, 04:18:56 PM
Charged with no crime but locked up for a year. Some people here voted for this.

https://x.com/nytimes/status/2033671218700734579?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
🙋‍♂️
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 04:19:44 PM
You sound quite happy about it.

If you had actually read about the dude, you would be too. He's a nutjob.
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Post by: Custard on March 17, 2026, 04:41:13 PM
If you had actually read about the dude, you would be too. He's a nutjob.

We all know tempo doesn’t read past the rage bait headline. Hook, line and sinker baby. He is also out here leading the war protest of 5 people in downtown Lafayette IN.
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Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 04:53:18 PM
🙋‍♂️

How very “American” of you.
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Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 04:54:17 PM
Our tax dollars go to these people.

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-12-23/ty-article-opinion/.premium/when-you-enter-gaza-you-are-god-inside-the-minds-of-idf-soldiers-who-commit-war-crimes/00000193-f2a4-dc18-a3db-fee62b540000
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Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 04:57:16 PM
If you had actually read about the dude, you would be too. He's a nutjob.

Of course he is.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 05:19:58 PM
Of course he is.

It is obviously apparent you never read up on this guy.....
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 05:28:54 PM
We all know tempo doesn’t read past the rage bait headline. Hook, line and sinker baby. He is also out here leading the war protest of 5 people in downtown Lafayette IN.

I too doubt he reads past the headlines. But it would not surprise me if he does not read the whole headline either.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 05:33:07 PM
Of course Tempo falls for it hook, line, and sinker. He is a DSA after all.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-curious-case-of-election-denying-white-supremacist-freakshow-joe-kent

Quote
There must certainly be a word-stacking German term for the uncanny feeling of watching as a patently unqualified, far-right, election-denier white nationalist freak becomes the only administration figure to resign over the increasingly disastrous Iran War with an at least vaguely anti-Semitic gripe. It is an interesting moment. Let’s remember that Kent isn’t just some administration official. He’s a white nationalist extremist who had no business holding any position of trust in the U.S. government. He’s been friends to numerous anti-Semites long before today’s news broke.

Some people are inclined to be sympathetic to the ideas contained in Kent’s claim that “(i)t is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby.” If that’s you, think a bit more seriously about just how Israel would be in a position to exert this “pressure” and don’t let your animus toward Trump make you a fellow traveler with someone as odious as Joe Kent.

Benjamin Netanyahu is a lifelong manipulator, schemer and liar. No foreign country can pressure the U.S. into doing something as catastrophically stupid as what we’ve seen over the past three weeks. Did Netanyahu want this? Of course he did. Netanyahu has wanted to convince American leaders to believe they have interests identical to his narrow, usually wrongheaded and always regional goals for 30 years. Only Donald Trump is so stupid, so desperate for the adrenaline fix of another regime change on the cheap that he went for it. It is Trump who insulated himself from all but the advice of two or three ignorant toadies so that he was able to stumble this badly into a situation in which the strategic initiative — notwithstanding all the damage Iran has sustained — is now in the hands of the Iranians.

Think how bad you have to screw things up to get into that position?!?!

Kent’s comments, predictably, revealingly, are not so much to blame Israel as to exonerate Trump. And that’s precisely how anti-Semitism works. It’s not Trump’s fault. He was taken in by “pressure” from the Israelis. The U.S. has its own vast intelligence resources. It has its own region experts. Israel couldn’t pressure or convince Trump that Iran posed some imminent threat to the U.S. Indeed, no one in the Trump White House thought anything like that. The U.S. and Israel went to war not because Iran was strong or about to do anything to the U.S. or really anyone else but because they are currently so weak. Iran was on its back and it seemed like you could go to war with them and they wouldn’t be able to strike back. (Mostly true — except the thing they can do easily, harry the Strait of Hormuz.) Trump thought this would be easy. Donald Trump made this decision on his own, because he thought it would be fun and that it would be easy, as a vast, kinetic kind of self-soothing because of the skids his presidency is on at home.

It’s a very weird time for anyone serious about the scourge of anti-Semitism in this country. One simultaneously has to make the point again and again and again against the claims of bad faith operators that being critical of Israel is not anti-Semitic. At the same time more and more Americans, left and right, are jumping into conversations, ideas and fetid ancient dialogs that are just that: anti-Semitism. Both are true. Let’s call this what it is and remember who Joe Kent is.

Hook, line, and sinker. As usual.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 06:39:43 PM
It is obviously apparent you never read up on this guy.....

1) If he was so obviously a misfit, why was he hired? Or at least not fired?

2) Everyone critical of Israel is mentally imbalanced, duh.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 06:42:34 PM
Why do we strawman shit up and equate being critical of Israel as “anti-semitism.” It’s total bullshit. The Jewish people throughout the world do not = Israel’s right-wing government. Stop Zionising us.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 06:44:44 PM
So white nationalist Joe Kent - bad. White nationalists Pete Hegseth, Stephen Miller - acceptable. Got it.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 06:54:19 PM
Of course Tempo falls for it hook, line, and sinker. He is a DSA after all.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-curious-case-of-election-denying-white-supremacist-freakshow-joe-kent

Hook, line, and sinker. As usual.

Josh Marshall’s (the writer of this piece) wife’s name is Millet Israeli. You can’t make this stuff up.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 06:57:14 PM
🙋‍♂️

Anyone who thinks it’s ok to be locked up for over a year and not charged with anything doesn’t believe in American values.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 07:07:31 PM
"Iran is finished, we've sank all their boats, obliterated their air force, and destroyed their infrastructure." - Donald Trump

Then why is he begging NATO for help?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 07:16:22 PM
PAMan likes to mock commentary I share based on funny names, appearance, gender, or even wearing a bucket hat.

Josh Marshall, ladies and gentlemen.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8c1ddFqr/IMG-6053.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RnqCfXW)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 17, 2026, 07:29:17 PM
We all know tempo doesn’t read past the rage bait headline. Hook, line and sinker baby. He is also out here leading the war protest of 5 people in downtown Lafayette IN.

That was actually just 5 people celebrating the 2 seed chanting "ILLINI SUCK"
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 07:33:19 PM
Wonder if PAMan knows why there aren’t many Iran war protests?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 07:46:25 PM
1) If he was so obviously a misfit, why was he hired? Or at least not fired?

2) Everyone critical of Israel is mentally imbalanced, duh.

And this confirms you haven't read anything about this guy....
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 07:47:18 PM
Why do we strawman shit up and equate being critical of Israel as “anti-semitism.” It’s total bullshit. The Jewish people throughout the world do not = Israel’s right-wing government. Stop Zionising us.

#StandUptoProgressiveJewishHate
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 07:48:35 PM
PAMan likes to mock commentary I share based on funny names, appearance, gender, or even wearing a bucket hat.

Josh Marshall, ladies and gentlemen.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8c1ddFqr/IMG-6053.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RnqCfXW)

He could use a floppy hat like the guy you like to cite.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 07:49:38 PM
Tenpo unknowingly sucking Tucker Carlson's buddy's cock is hilarious.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 17, 2026, 08:32:36 PM
"Iran is finished, we've sank all their boats, obliterated their air force, and destroyed their infrastructure." - Donald Trump

Then why is he begging NATO for help?

We don’t need their help. He’s doing it to make the broader point that we have propped up all of Western Europe for decades, but when we ask for help…

*crickets*
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 08:55:34 PM
#StandUptoProgressiveJewishHate

#StandUptotheRidiculousUseofStrawmen
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 17, 2026, 08:56:14 PM
We don’t need their help. He’s doing it to make the broader point that we have propped up all of Western Europe for decades, but when we ask for help…

*crickets*

propped up, but when we ask for help...

why exactly did Europe send troops to Afghanistan? So that we could also send troops to prop them up?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 08:56:41 PM
He could use a floppy hat like the guy you like to cite.

I used bucket hat one time. And you incorrectly called him a “source.” He was giving commentary.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 08:57:41 PM
And this confirms you haven't read anything about this guy....

This confirms you don’t give a shit about white nationalists so long as they serve your purposes. I don’t hear you railing on Hegseth and Miller.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 08:59:08 PM
We don’t need their help. He’s doing it to make the broader point that we have propped up all of Western Europe for decades, but when we ask for help…

*crickets*

Why wait two weeks in? He looks weak and foolish asking for help and not getting it. You sure this is 3D chess here?
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 17, 2026, 09:06:43 PM
How very “American” of you.
Thanks. Hopefully the illegal from Palestine is in removal proceedings. I hope she's able to regain some weight. "Her lawyers and family said .... she had lost weight."


(https://i.ibb.co/L2hGK2Z/Screenshot-20260317-162357-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BSK1kSC)

(https://i.ibb.co/0jVr3PCy/Screenshot-20260317-210449-Chrome.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

✌️
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 09:39:40 PM
Seek help.
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Post by: Custard on March 17, 2026, 09:42:38 PM
Why wait two weeks in? He looks weak and foolish asking for help and not getting it. You sure this is 3D chess here?

Well, that’s a perspective.

I’ll lay it out for you:

When you have overwhelming military superiority in every facet, you use it.

Then when the rest of the world starts bitching about the (temporary) real world consequences of finally cleaning up the only real obstacle to peace in the Middle East, you ask them for help.

They decline, and then you continue the narrative that they were only allies because we propped them up for a few generations.

Those countries continue funding their own defense and stop being a bunch of pussies. Finally.

At the end of all this they STILL need us more than we need them, they aren’t actually going to realign with Russia and/or China/India, Trump proves his point, we reallocate all the money we spent propping up Europe to domestic concerns, our economy booms, oil goes to $65-75, and we enter a new chapter of global prosperity and peace.

Thanks, Trump!
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 09:43:16 PM
#StandUptotheRidiculousUseofStrawmen

You could actually be a man and admit it. The lady should not have completely removed your spine!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 09:43:56 PM
propped up, but when we ask for help...

why exactly did Europe send troops to Afghanistan? So that we could also send troops to prop them up?

Weren't the British in Afghanistan?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 17, 2026, 09:44:05 PM
You could actually be a man and admit it. The lady should not have completely removed your spine!

(https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/854974380628513552/93D093A01CAA630710A10F329D160F8B18AB871C/?imw=512&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false)
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 09:47:11 PM
This confirms you don’t give a shit about white nationalists so long as they serve your purposes. I don’t hear you railing on Hegseth and Miller.
StrawTempo Tempoing. I said good words about the people who are the flip side of the same coin as you?
I'm not the one propping up Tucker Carlson's buddy. Not that you even knew who he is given how intellectually lazy you are.
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Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 10:17:46 PM
StrawTempo Tempoing. I said good words about the people who are the flip side of the same coin as you?
I'm not the one propping up Tucker Carlson's buddy. Not that you even knew who he is given how intellectually lazy you are.

Again, not a peep about white nationalists Hegseth and Miller. Wonder why…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 10:18:32 PM
Well, that’s a perspective.

I’ll lay it out for you:

When you have overwhelming military superiority in every facet, you use it.

Then when the rest of the world starts bitching about the (temporary) real world consequences of finally cleaning up the only real obstacle to peace in the Middle East, you ask them for help.

They decline, and then you continue the narrative that they were only allies because we propped them up for a few generations.

Those countries continue funding their own defense and stop being a bunch of pussies. Finally.

At the end of all this they STILL need us more than we need them, they aren’t actually going to realign with Russia and/or China/India, Trump proves his point, we reallocate all the money we spent propping up Europe to domestic concerns, our economy booms, oil goes to $65-75, and we enter a new chapter of global prosperity and peace.

Thanks, Trump!

Stick to farming issues. You at least sound believable there.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 10:20:11 PM
Again, not a peep about white nationalists Hegseth and Miller. Wonder why…

Flip side of the same coin as they progressives is not a compliment....
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 10:21:28 PM
Again, not a peep about white nationalists Hegseth and Miller. Wonder why…

The only one propping up a white nationalist is you... Tucker Carlson's buddy. It is predictable that you had zero clue who the guy was.
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Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 10:22:48 PM
Flip side of the same coin as they progressives is not a compliment....

Lazy memes. Typical for you.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 10:23:25 PM
The only one propping up a white nationalist is you... Tucker Carlson's buddy. It is predictable that you had zero clue who the guy was.

It is predictable you don’t criticize white nationalists Hegseth and Miller.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 10:29:33 PM
Lazy memes. Typical for you.

Money wins! Except when it doesn't..... LOL
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Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2026, 10:38:15 PM
Except when it doesn't..... LOL

About 7-12% of the time.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2026, 10:48:07 PM
About 7-12% of the time.

LOL. Ok. Maybe, just maybe, your candidates don't win where their ideas are not as popular as you think they are?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on March 17, 2026, 11:00:09 PM
Stick to farming issues. You at least sound believable there.

Check back on May 1st.
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Post by: Reacher on March 18, 2026, 12:31:28 AM
LOL. Ok. Maybe, just maybe, your candidates don't win where their ideas are not as popular as you think they are?

Maybe. Just maybe.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 18, 2026, 12:32:29 AM
Check back on May 1st.

What happens May 1st?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on March 18, 2026, 10:01:38 AM
What happens May 1st?

Drought starts?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on March 24, 2026, 09:55:34 AM
More of Tempo's memes taking a hit.... Always listen to content from ThePAThey instead of AI/BotSlop regurgitated from The Twotter!

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VlA.tGWI.AzAFt1X9Mtfi&smid=url-share

Saudi Prince Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls
Prince Mohammed bin Salman sees a “historic opportunity” to remake the region, according to people briefed by U.S. officials on the conversations.

Saudi Arabia’s de facto leader, Prince Mohammed bin Salman, has been pushing President Trump to continue the war against Iran, arguing that the U.S.-Israeli military campaign presents a “historic opportunity” to remake the Middle East, according to people briefed by American officials on the conversations.

In a series of conversations over the last week, Prince Mohammed has conveyed to Mr. Trump that he must press toward the destruction of Iran’s hard-line government, the people familiar with the conversations said.

Prince Mohammed, the people familiar with the discussions said, has argued that Iran poses a long-term threat to the Gulf that can only be eliminated by getting rid of the government.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel also views Iran as a long-term threat, but analysts say Israeli officials would probably view a failed Iranian state that is too caught up in internal turmoil to menace Israel as a win, while Saudi Arabia views a failed state in Iran as a grave and direct security threat.
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Post by: alum74 on March 24, 2026, 10:12:03 AM
More of Tempo's memes taking a hit.... Always listen to content from ThePAThey instead of AI/BotSlop regurgitated from The Twotter!

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VlA.tGWI.AzAFt1X9Mtfi&smid=url-share

Saudi Prince Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls
Prince Mohammed bin Salman sees a “historic opportunity” to remake the region, according to people briefed by U.S. officials on the conversations.

Saudi Arabia’s de facto leader, Prince Mohammed bin Salman, has been pushing President Trump to continue the war against Iran, arguing that the U.S.-Israeli military campaign presents a “historic opportunity” to remake the Middle East, according to people briefed by American officials on the conversations.

In a series of conversations over the last week, Prince Mohammed has conveyed to Mr. Trump that he must press toward the destruction of Iran’s hard-line government, the people familiar with the conversations said.

Prince Mohammed, the people familiar with the discussions said, has argued that Iran poses a long-term threat to the Gulf that can only be eliminated by getting rid of the government.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel also views Iran as a long-term threat, but analysts say Israeli officials would probably view a failed Iranian state that is too caught up in internal turmoil to menace Israel as a win, while Saudi Arabia views a failed state in Iran as a grave and direct security threat.

All the major players in the Middle East are led by reckless assholes.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 24, 2026, 11:28:13 AM
All the major players in the Middle East are led by reckless assholes.
Reckless Corrupt assholes.

The Saudis would probably love to see the Iranian oil capacity completely fubar so they can get better price for their own oil.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on March 24, 2026, 07:28:49 PM
More of Tempo's memes taking a hit.... Always listen to content from ThePAThey instead of AI/BotSlop regurgitated from The Twotter!

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VlA.tGWI.AzAFt1X9Mtfi&smid=url-share

Saudi Prince Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls
Prince Mohammed bin Salman sees a “historic opportunity” to remake the region, according to people briefed by U.S. officials on the conversations.

Saudi Arabia’s de facto leader, Prince Mohammed bin Salman, has been pushing President Trump to continue the war against Iran, arguing that the U.S.-Israeli military campaign presents a “historic opportunity” to remake the Middle East, according to people briefed by American officials on the conversations.

In a series of conversations over the last week, Prince Mohammed has conveyed to Mr. Trump that he must press toward the destruction of Iran’s hard-line government, the people familiar with the conversations said.

Prince Mohammed, the people familiar with the discussions said, has argued that Iran poses a long-term threat to the Gulf that can only be eliminated by getting rid of the government.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel also views Iran as a long-term threat, but analysts say Israeli officials would probably view a failed Iranian state that is too caught up in internal turmoil to menace Israel as a win, while Saudi Arabia views a failed state in Iran as a grave and direct security threat.

Hilarious.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 24, 2026, 08:26:36 PM
I know the Monopolistic NY Times isn't as good a source for information and analysis as a guy in a bucket hat on The Twotter!
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Post by: illiniray on March 24, 2026, 08:55:01 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/5WMGDLsg/Screenshot-20260324-192219-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6RnrhFD7)
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Post by: Reacher on March 24, 2026, 10:33:35 PM
LOL
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Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 08:10:31 AM
This one is going to hurt some feelings.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AysyAGFGk/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 10:21:22 AM
Some of you here voted for this.

Saad Sherida Al-Kaabi has explained that the damage sustained by the LNG facilities will take between three to five years to repair.

https://shippingtelegraph.com/shipping-reports/qatarenergy-missile-attacks-cut-qatars-lng-export-capacity-by-17-and-spur-20b-loss/
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Post by: ILLove1997 on March 25, 2026, 10:37:15 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/5WMGDLsg/Screenshot-20260324-192219-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6RnrhFD7)

that's pretty good lol
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Post by: Custard on March 25, 2026, 11:12:33 AM
Some of you here voted for this.

Saad Sherida Al-Kaabi has explained that the damage sustained by the LNG facilities will take between three to five years to repair.

https://shippingtelegraph.com/shipping-reports/qatarenergy-missile-attacks-cut-qatars-lng-export-capacity-by-17-and-spur-20b-loss/

Pretty sure Iran, and not Donald Trump, bombed the energy facilities.

Can’t believe everything you see published during this mess, everyone is angling to be the biggest victim in the court of public opinion right now.

There is no good reason it should take 3-5 years (but more than 3-5 more minutes) to repair something that wouldn’t even take that long to build from scratch.

Where there’s money and motivation it’s amazing how much shit can get done in a hurry. Unless you have blue state regulation, then it’s impossible. 
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Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 11:12:55 AM
LOL
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Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 11:13:56 AM
Pretty sure Iran, and not Donald Trump, bombed the energy facilities.

Can’t believe everything you see published during this mess, everyone is angling to be the biggest victim in the court of public opinion right now.

There is no good reason it should take 3-5 years (but more than 3-5 more minutes) to repair something that wouldn’t even take that long to build from scratch.

Where there’s money and motivation it’s amazing how much shit can get done in a hurry. Unless you have blue state regulation, then it’s impossible.

You voted for the Trump clown show was my point.
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Post by: Custard on March 25, 2026, 11:30:29 AM
You voted for the Trump clown show was my point.

THeRes nO pLaN, tHEy dOnT EvEn hAVe aN ObjEcTIvE!!!

Step 1:

Decimate Iranian military and military infrastructure

Step 2:

Release set of demands to bring peace:

Tehran wants to deal with Vice President JD Vance when it comes to any talks — but White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt warned it’s Trump who will call the shots.

The demands put forward by Washington predominantly related to Iran’s nuclear capabilities, but also called for the vital Strait of Hormuz shipping lane to stay open, as reported by the Wall Street Journal.

The outlet reported 14 of 15 demands conveyed:

1. Iran must dismantle existing nuclear capabilities.
2. Iran must commit never to pursue nuclear weapons.
3. No uranium enrichment on Iranian territory.
4. Iran must hand its stockpile of enriched uranium to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
5. The Natanz, Isfahan and Fordo nuclear facilities must be dismantled.
6. The IAEA must be granted full access to Iran’s nuclear facilities.
7. Iran must abandon its “regional proxy paradigm.”
8. Iran must cease funding, directing and arming its proxies.
9. The Strait of Hormuz must remain open.
10. Iran’s missile program must be limited in both range and quantity.
11. Iran must limit its use of missiles to self-defense.

Iran would benefit from:

1. The end of sanctions imposed by the international community.
2. US assistance to advance its civilian nuclear program.
3. A “snapback” mechanism allowing for the automatic reimposition of sanctions if Iran fails to comply would be removed.


Leaviitt signaled that the US military operations against Iran will continue until Trump’s objectives are met. 



Now we know you’re not so secretly rooting for the Palestinians and Iranians just to spite Trump, however thos list of demands on top of their military being decimated would be a huge net positive not just for the region, but for the world as a whole.

They can’t withstand this forever, but they’re not just going to capitulate after showing this much ridiculous bravado. Hopefully the public gets enough balls to demand an actual meaningful regime change in the meantime. Now or never
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 25, 2026, 11:42:48 AM
THeRes nO pLaN, tHEy dOnT EvEn hAVe aN ObjEcTIvE!!!

They can’t withstand this forever, but they’re not just going to capitulate after showing this much ridiculous bravado. Hopefully the public gets enough balls to demand an actual meaningful regime change in the meantime. Now or never

Sure they can. They don’t give a fuck. You - like Trump - did not read your Sun-Tsu, “know your enemy”

The public? The public in Iran is not a bunch of people from Kentucky. If the public in Iran writ large wanted regime change that badly they would have done so within the last 47 years. Plenty of people hate the regime but the entire country is Shiite Muslim and there are plenty of believers. And if they didn’t all hate America before a lot more sure do now.

You’re a soft fucking American. You wouldn’t last in a war zone 3 days. These are fucking Persians. They don’t give a fuck. Random shitheads in Kentucky care a lot more about an extra buck a gallon for gas than an Iranian cares about your bombs. And they will care about using  200 billion dollars to make gas more expensive.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 25, 2026, 12:01:27 PM
Sure they can. They don’t give a fuck. You - like Trump - did not read your Sun-Tsu, “know your enemy”

The public? The public in Iran is not a bunch of people from Kentucky. If the public in Iran writ large wanted regime change that badly they would have done so within the last 47 years. Plenty of people hate the regime but the entire country is Shiite Muslim and there are plenty of believers. And if they didn’t all hate America before a lot more sure do now.

You’re a soft fucking American. You wouldn’t last in a war zone 3 days. These are fucking Persians. They don’t give a fuck. Random shitheads in Kentucky care a lot more about an extra buck a gallon for gas than an Iranian cares about your bombs. And they will care about using  200 billion dollars to make gas more expensive.

Is this an argument for just blowing them all up???
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Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 01:12:04 PM
At first you had PAMan’s curiosity, but now you’ve got his ATTENTION.
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Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 01:14:57 PM
Custard, Trump literally says they’ve won the war, then says there’s much more to do in the same breath.

He also says “we don’t need anyone’s help,” then begs for help with the following sentence. Keep on pimping the idea this guy is playing 4D chess.
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Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 01:19:17 PM
Custard comes from the couch hugging Hegseth cult. “We negotiate with bombs.”
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Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 01:27:45 PM
Retired Major General with thoughts on Pete Kegsbreath.

https://x.com/smalls2672/status/2036592574241145033?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 25, 2026, 02:59:04 PM
At first you had PAMan’s curiosity, but now you’ve got his ATTENTION.

Just trying to figure out what Murph thinks he's saying there.
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Post by: Custard on March 25, 2026, 04:07:52 PM
Murph keeps using this “they don’t give a fuck” line like it’s some kind of mic drop moment in the argument against the conflict. As if standing by and allowing people who already hate the West and Israel that don’t give a fuck to continue their nuclear ambitions with piles of oil money from China is a good idea.

China buys 80-90% of Iranian crude and they buy it at a discount because other countries have sanctioned Iran. China gets discounted oil, keeping their costs of production down, while funding this horrible fundamentalist nation.

I suppose shutting down the internet and cell phones, hanging people in the streets, and violently quelling any uprisings by killing thousands of protestors are pretty effective deterrents. Remember how mad everyone was here over Renee Good and Alex “Assault me motherfucker” Pretti? Murph and Tempo were calling for a domestic revolution over these knuckleheads who were killed in rather nuanced confrontations with law enforcement. Not a word about the folks being openly slaughtered by the Iranian leadership. Interesting, isn’t it?

I’ve come to notice that the left seems to always side with what’s good for China and bad for America these days. It’s not a concidence, it’s programming.
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Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 05:34:57 PM
It’s not our job to police the rest of the world. That’s a very expensive job that leads to collapse. “America First,” bro.
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Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 05:42:07 PM
Pretty sure you were preaching no new wars until Trump invaded Iran, and decided to topple a couple other governments. Which are acts of war.
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Post by: Custard on March 25, 2026, 06:36:54 PM
Pretty sure you were preaching no new wars until Trump invaded Iran, and decided to topple a couple other governments. Which are acts of war.

I was? I liked Trump’s record in foreign conflicts but also understand things change and that Biden’s asleep at the switch tenure allowed some of our enemies to strengthen themselves and form new alliances with other geopolitical enemies. And that those things might need to be addressed before the next weak Democrat president who just thinks if we say enough mean things about Putin he’ll behave, and say enough nice things to Iran and China that they’ll respect us more, gets elected.

RIP, Great Venezuelan War, we barely knew ye! Pretty sure we just captures a wanted criminal in that one, hardly an act of war.

We haven’t even invaded Iran in any conventional sense. Far as I can tell we have just bombed the shit out of Iran which isn’t much different than Obama and all his drones.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 25, 2026, 06:40:08 PM
Is this an argument for just blowing them all up???

It isn’t that argument even if you *could* blow every single Iranian up.

But you can’t.

Our comfortable lives are on a knives edge. It’s a lot harder to keep the machine running than to blow it up. See 9/11.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 25, 2026, 06:49:16 PM
Just trying to figure out what Murph thinks he's saying there.

What I’m saying is that Trump seems to think his “threats” mean jack shit to the Iranians and this is misguided.

It’s a World War 2 mindset. The Germans were used to being a first world developed nation and when the war started to go to shit they all started thinking about how they get back to that state post Hitler. Same with Japan.

Iran is more like Vietnam or North Korea. There was no way to win in Vietnam or Korea because there was no spell to break. Iran will keep fighting, or monkey wrenching. There is no victory. 

See for example Iraq and Afghanistan 
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 25, 2026, 06:51:02 PM
Murph keeps using this “they don’t give a fuck” line like it’s some kind of mic drop moment in the argument against the conflict. As if standing by and allowing people who already hate the West and Israel that don’t give a fuck to continue their nuclear ambitions with piles of oil money from China is a good idea.

China buys 80-90% of Iranian crude and they buy it at a discount because other countries have sanctioned Iran. China gets discounted oil, keeping their costs of production down, while funding this horrible fundamentalist nation.

I suppose shutting down the internet and cell phones, hanging people in the streets, and violently quelling any uprisings by killing thousands of protestors are pretty effective deterrents. Remember how mad everyone was here over Renee Good and Alex “Assault me motherfucker” Pretti? Murph and Tempo were calling for a domestic revolution over these knuckleheads who were killed in rather nuanced confrontations with law enforcement. Not a word about the folks being openly slaughtered by the Iranian leadership. Interesting, isn’t it?

I’ve come to notice that the left seems to always side with what’s good for China and bad for America these days. It’s not a concidence, it’s programming.

I can’t believe Tempo calls out Gregg for strawmen in a universe that contains this one.

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Post by: murphstahoe on March 25, 2026, 06:54:57 PM
Murph keeps using this “they don’t give a fuck” line like it’s some kind of mic drop moment in the argument against the conflict. As if standing by and allowing people who already hate the West and Israel that don’t give a fuck to continue their nuclear ambitions with piles of oil money from China is a good idea.


You said “they can’t withstand this forever” and I say “sure they can, they don’t give a fuck”

That has nothing to do with China buying oil or the nonexistent nukes. It simply says your premise that we can easily win this conflict is bullshit
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Post by: Reacher on March 26, 2026, 06:20:54 AM
Anyone who thinks Iran is an “easy win” doesn’t know shit about warfare or nation building.
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Post by: Custard on March 26, 2026, 07:20:32 AM
Meanwhile, after supposedly rejecting any deal, and in the midst of a 48 hour push from Israel to eliminate what’s left of their arms industry, Iran tries to broker a peace meeting via Pakistan as soon as this weekend. They also sent a letter to the UN stating they’ll let non-hostile tankers through the strait. IACO

This isn’t Vietnam or Pakistan. We aren’t fucking around this time.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 26, 2026, 07:45:17 AM
Antony Blinken just went to Harvard and said he wished that the Biden administration had done more to put the stops on Iran's nuclear program but the politics of the 2022 midterms got in the way.
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Post by: illiniray on March 26, 2026, 10:38:46 AM

AI: Yes, former U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken stated during a Harvard University forum on March 24, 2026, that the Biden administration's efforts to reach a new nuclear agreement with Iran were complicated by "politics," specifically referencing the 2022 midterm elections.

In conversation with The New York Times journalist David Sanger, Blinken stated: "I wish we had gotten there [to a deal]... We worked very hard on getting that longer and stronger agreement," but added, "I'll acknowledge, too, that sometimes politics gets in the way," acknowledging that midterm election considerations factored into the administration's timing.

Key details from his comments include:

-Political Constraints: When pressed about whether Biden had stalled on the deal until after the 2022 elections, Blinken indicated the administration was searching for the "right time".

-Iran's Role: Blinken added that apart from U.S. politics, Iran at times was not conceding enough to make the deal worthwhile, asserting "we actually kept the pressure on them".

-Regret over Missed Deal: Blinken expressed regret that a "longer and stronger" agreement was not secured, a goal the administration had often stated as its objective for a successor to the 2015 JCPOA.

These comments were part of a broader discussion regarding Iran policy. Blinken also noted during the talk that Iran has the "ability to leverage the Strait of Hormuz in ways that are profoundly disruptive," following recent military strikes by the U.S. and Israel.
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 26, 2026, 10:44:34 AM
Context again for the win
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 26, 2026, 11:50:37 AM
AI: Yes, former U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken stated during a Harvard University forum on March 24, 2026, that the Biden administration's efforts to reach a new nuclear agreement with Iran were complicated by "politics," specifically referencing the 2022 midterm elections.

In conversation with The New York Times journalist David Sanger, Blinken stated: "I wish we had gotten there [to a deal]... We worked very hard on getting that longer and stronger agreement," but added, "I'll acknowledge, too, that sometimes politics gets in the way," acknowledging that midterm election considerations factored into the administration's timing.

Key details from his comments include:

-Political Constraints: When pressed about whether Biden had stalled on the deal until after the 2022 elections, Blinken indicated the administration was searching for the "right time".

-Iran's Role: Blinken added that apart from U.S. politics, Iran at times was not conceding enough to make the deal worthwhile, asserting "we actually kept the pressure on them".

-Regret over Missed Deal: Blinken expressed regret that a "longer and stronger" agreement was not secured, a goal the administration had often stated as its objective for a successor to the 2015 JCPOA.

These comments were part of a broader discussion regarding Iran policy. Blinken also noted during the talk that Iran has the "ability to leverage the Strait of Hormuz in ways that are profoundly disruptive," following recent military strikes by the U.S. and Israel.

No AI used.

"Political Constraints: When pressed about whether Biden had stalled on the deal until after the 2022 elections, ......."

Sanger began to ask if the mid-terms got 'into the way because President Biden didn't want to get into a .....'
Blinken didn't let Sanger finish his question, interrupted, and began distancing himself from the issue of the mid-terms. Sanger let him go on without returning to the mid-term question that Blinken had brought into the conversation.

I would not describe Sanger as pressing Blinken on the issue. I would not describe Blinken as being pressed on the issue.



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Post by: illiniray on March 26, 2026, 12:29:51 PM
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I would not describe Sanger as pressing Blinken on the issue. I would not describe Blinken as being pressed on the issue.

You listened to the entire interview, or Fox News told you that?
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Post by: Custard on March 26, 2026, 12:38:39 PM
Does Nichi believe that Google AI summary is objective? ChatGPT is woke af, but probably not as woke as Google.

If the websites that your AI of choice is scraping have a mostly left-of-center slant, the summary itself will have a left-of-center slant.
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Post by: Custard on March 26, 2026, 12:49:29 PM
The people doing the bombing provide direct and detailed insight on the objectives that I’ve been told they don’t have, but Tempo and Murph would rather get their updates from Iranian state propaganda:

"Iran had a modern military, and never in recorded history has a nation’s military been so quickly and effectively neutralized," he said. "This is not an endless war. It’s a decisive campaign with clear objectives… to destroy Iran’s offensive military capabilities and ensure they never obtain a nuclear weapon."

The remarks come as the administration outlines its strategy following recent strikes on Iranian targets, describing the campaign as focused on defined military objectives rather than prolonged engagement.

Hegseth cited operational figures during his remarks, stating that more than 10,000 enemy targets had been hit, along with over 150 naval vessels and underground facilities.

"This is stuff for the books. This is stuff for legacy, Mr. President, to ensure future generations do not have to live under the threat of a nuclear-armed Iran," he said.

Hegseth also criticized press coverage of the operation, accusing outlets of failing to accurately reflect military efforts on the ground.


"You wouldn’t know it if you listened to the dishonest, anti-Trump media," he said. "Behind every headline you write, there’s a helicopter crew in the air. Behind every news story, there’s a battalion on the move. Behind every so-called ‘fake news’ story, there’s an F-35 pilot executing a dangerous mission."

Drawing on past experience, Hegseth referenced public debates during the Iraq war, arguing that media narratives have historically conflicted with military objectives.

He maintained that current operations differ from past conflicts, describing the campaign as structured and effective rather than open-ended.

"This is not parody. This is not chaos. This is success… pure American success, on plan and ahead of pace," Hegseth said.

Hegseth also claimed Iranian naval capabilities had been significantly degraded, stating that the commander of Iran's naval forces had been killed in a recent operation.

"They no longer have a navy, Mr. President," Hegseth stated. "Their naval commander was killed overnight in operations."


"If President Trump had not acted, you’d be screaming, ‘Why not?’ And now that he has taken decisive action, you’re asking why he did," Hegseth said.

Hegseth also referenced U.S. foreign policy under the Obama administration, criticizing the Iran nuclear deal.


"Many of the military factories and bases that are now being destroyed were paid for by pallets of American cash that Barack Obama flew to Tehran under the Iran deal," Hegseth said.

"Make no mistake… we had to act," he noted. "Our objective is the complete dismantling of their nuclear program."
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 26, 2026, 12:51:07 PM
You listened to the entire interview, or Fox News told you that?
Was the issue mentioned on Fox ?

You can start at about 22 minutes into the interview. 
Or you could read the story from the Crimson. They don't mention the mid-term issue, much less the NYT writer 'pressing' Blinken on the issue.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2026/3/25/blinken-ceasefire/

No, I didn't listen to the entire interview
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 26, 2026, 01:14:25 PM
Meanwhile, after supposedly rejecting any deal, and in the midst of a 48 hour push from Israel to eliminate what’s left of their arms industry, Iran tries to broker a peace meeting via Pakistan as soon as this weekend. They also sent a letter to the UN stating they’ll let non-hostile tankers through the strait. IACO

This isn’t Vietnam or Pakistan. We aren’t fucking around this time.

That’s what Trump is telling you but Iran says that’s bullshit.

The difference between Vietnam and Iran is that if we burned 1960’s Vietnam to the ground we’d never know the difference. If we burn Iran to the ground it destroys our own economy. And Iran knows this
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 26, 2026, 01:15:50 PM
Antony Blinken just went to Harvard and said he wished that the Biden administration had done more to put the stops on Iran's nuclear program but the politics of the 2022 midterms got in the way.

Welp then we just better start a war.

Not the first time a bunch of republicans started a war over non existent nukes
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 26, 2026, 01:17:29 PM
Anyone citing Pete Hegseth is a moron
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 26, 2026, 01:39:29 PM
Well then, oil tankers should have zero issues traversing the Hormuz Straits. Yet, here we are.
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Post by: illiniray on March 26, 2026, 02:23:18 PM
Was the issue mentioned on Fox ?

No, I didn't listen to the entire interview

So you got it from Fox.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 26, 2026, 02:42:41 PM
So you got it from Fox.
Nope.

I dlidn't get it from the Harvard Crimson either. Lol
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 26, 2026, 02:53:46 PM
Nope.

I dlidn't get it from the Harvard Crimson either. Lol

As usual you got it from your ass
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 26, 2026, 03:00:24 PM
Hadn't bought gas for at least 3 weeks until today. Woah....even at The Costco. Thanks Trump!
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Post by: Chickengeorge on March 26, 2026, 03:28:49 PM
Hadn't bought gas for at least 3 weeks until today. Woah....even at The Costco. Thanks Trump!

Be thankful you don't drive a diesel truck.
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Post by: Custard on March 26, 2026, 04:19:39 PM
Be thankful you don't drive a diesel truck.

Imagine living in California, gas was $5 something in October when I was there.
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Post by: Custard on March 26, 2026, 04:24:43 PM
Anyone citing Pete Hegseth is a moron

The self fulfilling prophecy of TDS;

The Media: “There’s no plan. No strategy, no objectives. You can’t trust Trump or anyone that associates with him.”

The administration: “The media isn’t being fair and reporting what’s actually happening, there’s an entire false narrative being created here.” Proceeds to lay out very detailed, clear plans and objectives, offers timelines and updates on pretty much a daily basis.

TDS sufferers: “There’s no plan. No strategy, no objectives. You can’t trust Trump or anyone who associates with him. Let’s trust Iranian state propaganda instead”
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Post by: Custard on March 26, 2026, 04:29:45 PM
That’s what Trump is telling you but Iran says that’s bullshit.

The difference between Vietnam and Iran is that if we burned 1960’s Vietnam to the ground we’d never know the difference. If we burn Iran to the ground it destroys our own economy. And Iran knows this

That’s not what Trump is telling me, that’s what the Trump-hating NYT morning email told me. Reuters and many other reluctantly reporting as well.
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Post by: illiniray on March 26, 2026, 04:39:54 PM
Interesting how conservatives have turned liberal and woke into pejorative terms.

Shortly after his enlightenment, while he was traveling, people noticed the Buddha’s intense radiance and peace, prompting them to ask if he was a god, reincarnation of a god, a wizard, or a man.

To all options, he replied "no," instead explaining that he was "awake".

Upon hearing this, the upper caste conservatives fled in terror. /S
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 26, 2026, 05:17:21 PM
Apparently these Republicans are not getting the memos that Custard gets!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15681667/Furious-Republicans-storm-secret-Iran-briefing-new-objective-sparks-ground-invasion-panic.html

Nancy Mace walked out early, venting that 'we were misled,' while pro-Trump committee chair Mike Rogers warned 'we're not getting answers' as Pentagon chiefs briefed the House Armed Services Committee, sparking fireworks on Capitol Hill
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 26, 2026, 07:59:35 PM
Apparently these Republicans are not getting the memos that Custard gets!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15681667/Furious-Republicans-storm-secret-Iran-briefing-new-objective-sparks-ground-invasion-panic.html

Nancy Mace walked out early, venting that 'we were misled,' while pro-Trump committee chair Mike Rogers warned 'we're not getting answers' as Pentagon chiefs briefed the House Armed Services Committee, sparking fireworks on Capitol Hill
Is the anonymous lawmaker Eugene Vindman ?
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 27, 2026, 12:53:11 AM
Imagine living in California, gas was $5 something in October when I was there.

Patriots ride bikes. When you drive alone you drive with Khameni
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Post by: Custard on March 27, 2026, 08:54:43 AM
Apparently these Republicans are not getting the memos that Custard gets!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15681667/Furious-Republicans-storm-secret-Iran-briefing-new-objective-sparks-ground-invasion-panic.html

Nancy Mace walked out early, venting that 'we were misled,' while pro-Trump committee chair Mike Rogers warned 'we're not getting answers' as Pentagon chiefs briefed the House Armed Services Committee, sparking fireworks on Capitol Hill

Lol oil is flowing through the Strait of Hormuz again like I said it was and peace talks are underway. This not-so-secret secret meeting sounds like made up bullshit.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 27, 2026, 11:29:17 AM
Lol oil is flowing through the Strait of Hormuz again like I said it was and peace talks are underway. This not-so-secret secret meeting sounds like made up bullshit.

Live reporting from the Strait of Hormuz - A Custard exclusive on IlliniHQ2!
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 27, 2026, 12:04:41 PM
Live reporting from the Strait of Hormuz - A Custard exclusive on IlliniHQ2!

A true value!
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Post by: Reacher on March 27, 2026, 02:40:42 PM
Peace talks with whom?
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Post by: illiniray on March 27, 2026, 09:43:36 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/bRMpCrDB/Screenshot-20260327-212259-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wrFDPKjW)
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 28, 2026, 12:52:08 PM
WTF?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5804665-marco-rubio-iran-strait-hormuz-tolling/

Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Friday warned European allies that Iran could set up a “tolling system” in the Strait of Hormuz after the U.S.-Israeli conflict with Iran ends.
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 28, 2026, 01:21:53 PM
WTF?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5804665-marco-rubio-iran-strait-hormuz-tolling/

Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Friday warned European allies that Iran could set up a “tolling system” in the Strait of Hormuz after the U.S.-Israeli conflict with Iran ends.

Good to hear that Rubio is such an optimist and thinks it will end.

We can say what we want about “Russian interference”. The Iranians are the pros. They wanted to punish Carter, they kept the hostages until after the election

The Iranians hate Trump. No way this ends before the midterms. They need to exact as much pain on the GOP as they can
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Post by: Custard on March 31, 2026, 10:43:34 AM
The Iran war process and objectives, for those that say there wasn’t/aren’t any:

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2038896565839147149?s=46
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Post by: Custard on March 31, 2026, 10:53:56 AM
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Western civilization may never win another war if this keeps up

This is maddening. The radical left, mainstream media, and the woke right are running the exact same playbook with the US/Israel campaign against Iran as they did with Israel in Gaza

They create impossible standards in terms of:

-Zero Casualties
-Zero Economic Disruption
-Zero Uncertainty
-Zero Time to Accomplish the Mission
-Zero Collateral Damage

And everything the bad guys do is actually our fault because we made them do it….same script as Gaza…the bad guys have no agency and it’s actually our fault

Day 32 of the Iran war:
-degraded missile factories, nuclear sites, IRGC bases, and proxy networks
-the Supreme Leader is gone…and his replacement is s vegetable
-all the top leadership is gone…in fact, we don’t even know who’s in charge

Yet the all you hear is endless doomerism

And all of this sounds exactly like the demoralization propaganda from Russia, China, and Iran, that has infiltrated our society for years via social media and retarded influencers chasing click

This isn’t responsible skepticism

It’s weakness…

And you’ll never get peace through strength when the opponent knows you lack resolve and they can just wait you out

This is madness


https://x.com/gummibear737/status/2038745627870245258?s=46
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Post by: Custard on March 31, 2026, 10:58:14 AM
Tempo lol

Quote
The war in Iran is the perfect storm for mass formation psychosis…on steroids

Trump Derangement Syndrome collides with Israel Derangement Syndrome to create the horseshoe singularity...and heads are literally exploding🤯

https://x.com/gummibear737/status/2038965031614779653?s=46
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 31, 2026, 11:20:46 AM
Tempo lol

https://x.com/gummibear737/status/2038965031614779653?s=46

Axios wants you to think that social media users are causing a loss of support for democracy.

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Post by: murphstahoe on March 31, 2026, 11:43:51 AM
Tempo lol

https://x.com/gummibear737/status/2038965031614779653?s=46

Again - 1950’s thinking.

Bombs in Tehran can’t stop some operative from dumping fentanyl in the water supply of Nashville. We’re only fortunate the Iranians are either not very creative or basically not as evil as Trump would have you believe.
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Post by: illiniray on March 31, 2026, 11:47:27 AM
Axios wants you to think that social media users are causing a loss of support for democracy.

You don't say!
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Post by: Reacher on March 31, 2026, 11:49:16 AM
The Iran war process and objectives, for those that say there wasn’t/aren’t any:

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2038896565839147149?s=46

I thought it was to save Iranians from their oppressive government, and for nuclear weapons...
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 31, 2026, 12:00:32 PM
I thought it was to save Iranians from their oppressive government, and for nuclear weapons...

That was last Wednesday. Reasons change
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Post by: murphstahoe on March 31, 2026, 12:04:02 PM
From that X post

The grand bargain is not a theory. It is a pressure system. The US needs Chinese rare earths to rebuild 2,400 depleted Patriot interceptors.

So we need to invade Iran, causing them to liberate missiles at Israel, requiring the use of patriot interceptors, so we can leverage China to get the rare earths we need to replace the interceptors we used up because we invaded Iran
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Post by: Reacher on March 31, 2026, 12:04:34 PM
Exactly
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Post by: ThePAMan on March 31, 2026, 02:27:52 PM
Axios wants you to think that social media users are causing a loss of support for democracy.

It was a Gallup survey that found the connection between heavy social media among those who do not like democracy.
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Post by: illiniray on March 31, 2026, 02:40:48 PM
It was a Gallup survey that found the connection between heavy social media among those who do not like democracy.

Those are probably wingnuts living in their mom's basements. They argue that we are a republic, not a democracy. Since they've never read the federalist papers, they misconstrue the meaning of republic.
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Post by: Reacher on March 31, 2026, 08:35:00 PM
First there was "Greater Israel," now there's "Greater North America." I'm sensing a theme.

https://x.com/i/status/2038655180846096596
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Post by: Custard on April 01, 2026, 12:40:43 AM
A couple of things that are happening but almost certainly are not in most of your newsfeeds:

Thousands of Iranian Americans marching in DC in support of our intervention in Iran

New Harvard polling shows much better than expected support for our intervention in Iran

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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 01, 2026, 06:02:37 AM
A couple of things that are happening but almost certainly are not in most of your newsfeeds:

Thousands of Iranian Americans marching in DC in support of our intervention in Iran

New Harvard polling shows much better than expected support for our intervention in Iran


I saw a bit on the Iranian American march in DC, but I saw it on social media.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 01, 2026, 10:08:35 AM
A couple of things that are happening but almost certainly are not in most of your newsfeeds:

Thousands of Iranian Americans marching in DC in support of our intervention in Iran

New Harvard polling shows much better than expected support for our intervention in Iran

Like Cuba - the Iranians in America are the rich people who fled the country after their patron was taken out of power.

They talk up the Shah’s son and Americans think “see the real Iranians loved the Shah!” But these are the people who benefited from his corruption, and caused the fucking crazies to get control

10 years from now Bezos and Musks kids will be in Switzerland protesting for Don Jr
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Post by: Reacher on April 01, 2026, 10:27:17 AM
Like Cuba - the Iranians in America are the rich people who fled the country after their patron was taken out of power.

They talk up the Shah’s son and Americans think “see the real Iranians loved the Shah!” But these are the people who benefited from his corruption, and caused the fucking crazies to get control

10 years from now Bezos and Musks kids will be in Switzerland protesting for Don Jr


Exactly
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Post by: Custard on April 01, 2026, 10:55:52 AM
I’ve now watched the left come around to supporting Iran for a full month now. There are no solutions or suggestions, just grievances. It’s almost as bad as when Trump got them so upset about Tylenol.
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Post by: Reacher on April 01, 2026, 11:12:37 AM
Define "supporting Iran."
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 01, 2026, 11:33:46 AM
I’ve now watched the left come around to supporting Iran for a full month now. There are no solutions or suggestions, just grievances. It’s almost as bad as when Trump got them so upset about Tylenol.

The solution is - get a time machine, and don't fucking invade Iran. So - there is no solution.

At this point, we're just fucked, so we can just circle jerk around and watch it all go down the drain. But for a glorious while we created a hell of a lot of shareholder value.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 01, 2026, 11:39:10 AM
Trump and Co. are just fucking stupid.

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Post by: murphstahoe on April 01, 2026, 12:01:04 PM
We had tariffs because we wanted the trade to be fairer so Europe and China would buy more of our stuff.

Now we are telling them go fuck yourself, we don't care if Hormuz is closed, which would crash their economies and they wouldn't be able to buy any of our stuff. But it would also crash our economy because we aren't commies and our oil companies would just charge more too.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 01, 2026, 12:16:17 PM
1000 Bombs Versus 1: Which Is Strategically More Effective?

the US and Israel are launching massive attacks every night and Iran can launch very few. Ipso facto the US and Israel are “winning”.

If only it were so easy. The metrics do not actually tell you what Hegseth and Caine want them to.

What we see is that Iran does not need to match the US and Israel, indeed it cannot hope to do so. All Iran needs to do is convince the world’s shipping bodies, insurance companies, and markets, that it can successfully launch one bomb—and that alone seems enough for them to fight their war for now.

And last night the Iranians launched one such bomb to put the world on notice.

In comparison to massive US and Israeli fires, Iran had one hit last night—though that one hit arguably has the same strategic effect of all the bombs dropped by the US and Israel at the same time. The Iranians sent one of their simple drones and it hit a oil tanker off the coast of Dubai.

The vessel hit was a tanker called Al Salmi, and it was fully laden with 2 million barrels of fuel for export. With oil hovering just at or over $100 a barrel, that load alone was worth approximately $200,000,000—and the ship itself was worth almost as much. Building a new supertanker, classified as a Very Large Crude Carrier (VLCC) costs about $130,000,000 these days. Buying won already built can cost even more as there is demand—some are being listed at almost $150,000,000.

So the load that the Iranians hit with that one bomb was valued somewhere close to $350,000,000. If oil prices continue to rise, it could be considerably more than this.

If the Iranians launched three successful attacks per night on VLCCs, that would be around $1 billion in ships and cargo damaged. At present, btw, there are somewhere between 200-300 tankers stuck in the Gulf (with many more that would have liked to get in and get there loads). So we are talking about a traffic worth hundreds of billions of dollars a day, trillions over weeks and months. If that traffic cannot be insured and protected, it cannot sail.

So that is the dilemma that the US faces. It does not need to simply bomb Iran. It needs to be able to stop the Iranians from threatening world shipping in the Gulf. So far, for all of its air superiority, it cannot do that. And if that dynamic does not change, Iran has a stranglehold over much of the world economy—no matter how many golden statues of victory Donald Trump builds of himself.
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Post by: illiniray on April 01, 2026, 12:16:39 PM
It’s almost as bad as when Trump got them so upset about Tylenol.

How did that Trump fiasco work out?
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Post by: Reacher on April 02, 2026, 01:51:06 AM
Sounds like Trump really hit it out of the park in his Iran speech.

Futures fall, oil jumps immediately after speech.


https://www.investors.com/
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Post by: Custard on April 02, 2026, 06:15:08 AM
Sounds like Trump really hit it out of the park in his Iran speech.

Futures fall, oil jumps immediately after speech.


https://www.investors.com/

You think the goal of the address was to lower oil prices and boost futures? 
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 02, 2026, 06:37:58 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/qYN3QPr7/Screenshot-20260402-063719-Chrome.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 02, 2026, 09:01:45 AM
You think the goal of the address was to lower oil prices and boost futures?

Let’s check his family’s trades before the speech…

Nope - goal was to raise oil prices
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 02, 2026, 01:25:23 PM
You think the goal of the address was to lower oil prices and boost futures?

The goal was to calm and reassure the public. It worked fantastically as you can tell. Surely, you’re not this dense.
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Post by: Custard on April 02, 2026, 02:11:55 PM
The goal was to calm and reassure the public. It worked fantastically as you can tell. Surely, you’re not this dense.

The goal was to give a candid update on the situation. If he wanted to reassure the public, he would’ve stood there and blown smoke and sunshine up everybody’s ass the entire time, which isn’t at all what he did.
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Post by: alum74 on April 02, 2026, 03:01:14 PM
The goal was to give a candid update on the situation. If he wanted to reassure the public, he would’ve stood there and blown smoke and sunshine up everybody’s ass the entire time, which isn’t at all what he did.

A rambling, low-energy speech.  To be fair, there was no clarity to be offered and no rallying to be done.  The first, because the war was never undertaken with a specific purpose in mind, so Trump is unable to say which objectives have been achieved, which   remain, and what the expectations are for achieving the remaining ones.
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Post by: ridingthegrange on April 02, 2026, 03:09:12 PM
The goal was to give a candid update on the situation. If he wanted to reassure the public, he would’ve stood there and blown smoke and sunshine up everybody’s ass the entire time, which isn’t at all what he did.

"Like nobody's ever seen before", "Like nobody's ever seen before", "Like nobody's ever seen before", etc....where there's smoke.
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Post by: Custard on April 02, 2026, 03:21:57 PM
A rambling, low-energy speech.  To be fair, there was no clarity to be offered and no rallying to be done.  The first, because the war was never undertaken with a specific purpose in mind, so Trump is unable to say which objectives have been achieved, which   remain, and what the expectations are for achieving the remaining ones.

It’s so funny that people on the left keep parroting the talking point that there was no objective or purpose.

There are plenty of sources that have reported why the talks fell apart, why we bombed them, what the objectives were, what we are demanding in exchange for a cease fire, how much of their military has been destroyed, etc.

It’s almost like your algorithm knows what you’re going to click on.
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Post by: alum74 on April 02, 2026, 03:53:58 PM
It’s so funny that people on the left keep parroting the talking point that there was no objective or purpose.

There are plenty of sources that have reported why the talks fell apart, why we bombed them, what the objectives were, what we are demanding in exchange for a cease fire, how much of their military has been destroyed, etc.

It’s almost like your algorithm knows what you’re going to click on.

Your "sources" suck.  There is no purpose; it's a war of whim.  Now Trump is searching for a way out. 
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Post by: Reacher on April 02, 2026, 04:08:11 PM
The goal was to give a candid update on the situation. If he wanted to reassure the public, he would’ve stood there and blown smoke and sunshine up everybody’s ass the entire time, which isn’t at all what he did.

You can’t be serious.
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Post by: Custard on April 02, 2026, 04:27:58 PM
Your "sources" suck.  There is no purpose; it's a war of whim.  Now Trump is searching for a way out.

Lol, typical cognitive dissonance. Yeah, people that were in the meetings and discussions don’t know anything. People who have studied and reported on and explained foreign conflict for 50+ years don’t know anything.

Alum74 on Illinihq2.com knows definitively, without evidence, that it is a war of whim! He wants his TDS, and he wants it now!
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Post by: Reacher on April 02, 2026, 04:29:18 PM
I was told it was because nukes, and Iran citizenry.

Then I was told it was 4D chess towards China.
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Post by: Reacher on April 02, 2026, 04:30:11 PM
And many others are telling me it’s a war to forget the Epstein files.
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Post by: Reacher on April 02, 2026, 04:37:15 PM
This guy is playing a very dangerous game. Drink!

https://x.com/magacult2/status/2039734088597458999?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: Reacher on April 02, 2026, 04:40:13 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NLtx6/IMG-6170.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnMDJRbs)
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Post by: Custard on April 02, 2026, 05:14:37 PM
I was told it was because nukes, and Iran citizenry.

Then I was told it was 4D chess towards China.

It can be for multiple very valid reasons. Iran told the US they wouldn’t stop trying to enrich uranium beyond what they would need just to produce nuclear energy; the only reason for that would be to pursue weapons. We even said we’d provide them with fissionable material for their reactors and they told us to shove it.

I guess you guys think we should allow the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism, friend of China and Russia, and blood foe of the Israel/the West to build nukes while committing genocide and sponsoring terrorism? We wouldn’t even be in this situation if the previous administration hadn’t been asleep at the switch for 4 years.

We redirected oil flow from Venezuela away from China, crushed Iran’s military and leadership, and are starving China for the cheap oil (that we can’t buy) they use to undercut US manufacturing. We have plenty of oil.

In the end what you guys defend is always in China’s best interest, seems their propaganda infiltration process is working to a very high degree.
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Post by: Custard on April 02, 2026, 05:24:48 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NLtx6/IMG-6170.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnMDJRbs)

That’s a cute story for the TDS crowd but it’s pretty widely accepted that talks occurred with Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, the speaker of parliament who has deep ties in Iranian leadership.
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Post by: illiniray on April 02, 2026, 06:12:03 PM
That’s a cute story for the TDS crowd but it’s pretty widely accepted that talks occurred with Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, the speaker of parliament who has deep ties in Iranian leadership.

A 👁️

Reports from late March 2026 indicate that U.S. President Donald Trump announced that American officials were in negotiations with Iran to end the ongoing conflict, specifically mentioning discussions involving Iranian Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf.

While widely reported in Western media, this narrative is surrounded by significant controversy:

"Contradictory Claims: While President Trump claimed to be in "very good and productive conversations" with a senior Iranian official—identified by sources as Ghalibaf—Tehran has strongly denied these reports.

"Ghalibaf’s Response: Ghalibaf himself dismissed reports of negotiations as "fake news" intended to manipulate financial markets, insisting there is no direct contact with the U.S..

*The Context: Ghalibaf, a hard-line speaker of parliament and former IRGC commander, has emerged as a key power broker in Iran following the death of other senior figures in 2025. He has frequently warned the U.S. against attacks, threatening that American bases and troops would face a "relentless" response.

*Internal Legitimacy: Experts note that any formal negotiation with the U.S. would require approval from the Supreme Leader and the Supreme National Security Council, making any "backchannel" conversation risky for Ghalibaf.

Reports suggest Ghalibaf is viewed by some in the Trump administration as a "reasonable" figure within a hard-line regime capable of holding power, though others see him as a "yes man" lacking independent authority.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 02, 2026, 09:38:26 PM
It can be for multiple very valid reasons. Iran told the US they wouldn’t stop trying to enrich uranium beyond what they would need just to produce nuclear energy; the only reason for that would be to pursue weapons. We even said we’d provide them with fissionable material for their reactors and they told us to shove it.

I guess you guys think we should allow the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism, friend of China and Russia, and blood foe of the Israel/the West to build nukes while committing genocide and sponsoring terrorism? We wouldn’t even be in this situation if the previous administration hadn’t been asleep at the switch for 4 years.

We redirected oil flow from Venezuela away from China, crushed Iran’s military and leadership, and are starving China for the cheap oil (that we can’t buy) they use to undercut US manufacturing. We have plenty of oil.

In the end what you guys defend is always in China’s best interest, seems their propaganda infiltration process is working to a very high degree.
Blinken disagrees with your asleep at the switch description. He said the mid-terms got in the way of Joe issuing a stern 'don't'.
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Post by: Reacher on April 03, 2026, 04:07:50 AM
That’s a cute story for the TDS crowd but it’s pretty widely accepted that talks occurred with Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, the speaker of parliament who has deep ties in Iranian leadership.

This guy?

(https://i.postimg.cc/SRBBW225/IMG-6173.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 03, 2026, 05:39:20 AM
When I'm looking for analysis of the Iran situation I look for an account from Brazil with 29 followers that joined the Twotter 5 months ago.
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Post by: Custard on April 03, 2026, 09:35:48 AM
Again, 50% of our populace has sided with Iran and is parroting their state propaganda.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 03, 2026, 10:59:27 AM
When I'm looking for analysis of the Iran situation I look for an account from Brazil with 29 followers that joined the Twotter 5 months ago.

Iran shoots down fighter jet.

“Yeah but you libs didn’t get mad when BENGHAZI!!!”
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Post by: Reacher on April 03, 2026, 12:10:22 PM
When I'm looking for analysis of the Iran situation I look for an account from Brazil with 29 followers that joined the Twotter 5 months ago.

That’s far from the only account that tweeted something very similar.
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Post by: Reacher on April 03, 2026, 12:10:55 PM
Again, 50% of our populace has sided with Iran and is parroting their state propaganda.

Again, you are Nazi-Lite
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Post by: Reacher on April 03, 2026, 12:12:47 PM
Again, 50% of our populace has sided with Iran and is parroting their state propaganda.

You’re parroting Trump and his administration. Only buffoons think they are credible, or have shown anything resembling consistency. On much of anything, really.
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Post by: Custard on April 03, 2026, 12:56:13 PM
You’re parroting Trump and his administration. Only buffoons think they are credible, or have shown anything resembling consistency. On much of anything, really.

Lol. You’re parroting a leader in a country that is actively killing dissidents, sponsors terrorism, murders LGBTQ people, gives women no rights, etc just because you would rather believe him than Trump. Get some fucking help.
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Post by: Custard on April 03, 2026, 12:57:21 PM
Again, you are Nazi-Lite

You have demonstrated repeatedly that you don’t even know what a Nazi is. Maybe bucket hat guy on Twitter can point you in the right direction.
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Post by: Reacher on April 03, 2026, 01:13:54 PM
You have demonstrated repeatedly that you don’t even know what a Nazi is. Maybe bucket hat guy on Twitter can point you in the right direction.

You repeatedly cheerlead military aggression for national gain (whether moral or not), you cheerlead masked police harassing citizenry and immigrants, and you occasionally spew white nationalist adjacent rhetoric. You are quite literally dipping a toe into Nazi waters.
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Post by: Reacher on April 03, 2026, 01:15:30 PM
Seems every idiot here thinks anything less than a few million dead Jews falls short of fascism, or Nazism.
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Post by: Custard on April 03, 2026, 01:20:34 PM
You repeatedly cheerlead military aggression for national gain (whether moral or not), you cheerlead masked police harassing citizenry and immigrants, and you occasionally spew white nationalist adjacent rhetoric. You are quite literally dipping a toe into Nazi waters.

Quotes?
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Post by: Custard on April 03, 2026, 01:21:50 PM
Post from Occupy Democrats on FB hitting all of Tempo’s talking points lol

The Iranian Ministry of Truth endorses this message!

Quote
BREAKING: Trump and Hegseth hit with DISASTER after F-15 gets shot down in Iran, likely leading to the capture of its crew and the first POWs of the war…and not a WORD about it from the Trump team!

Iranian state media has published images of what appears to be the fins of a F-15 Strike Eagle of the 494th fighter squadron out of Lakenheath in the UK. Even more ominously, there are also images of an ejection seat, meaning the pilots made it out behind and are behind enemy lines.

Footage taken by farmers in the area and published by Iranian state media shows a U.S. Air Force HC-130J “Combat King II” Combat Search and Rescue plane circling and a USAF C-130 refueling two helicopters over southern Iran, indicating that a search-and-rescue mission is underway.

Unconfirmed reports also say that a US helicopter was shot down.

This is a disaster for the Trump administration, and still we’ve heard nothing from the administration about this.
 
It’s not too surprising, considering that the Trump admin has been caught deliberately slow-walking the release of injured and killed Americans in Trump’s needless, unprovoked war of aggression against Iran. The real number of injured servicemembers and US contrasctors may be as high as 13,600, but we just don’t know because our government is engaged in a cover-up to hide from accountability – just like they are for the Epstein files!

If this shoot-down is real, then it’s safe to assume that the reports of another F-15 being shot down last month are also true. How many lies are we being told?

This is terrible news for the pilots, because Trump and Hegseth have made it clear that the lives of our servicemembers don’t mean anything to them and they’d be happy to exploit their capture to escalate the conflict in hopes of finding a military solution to this quagmire that does not exist.

Fingers crossed for their safe return. The American people deserve better than this!
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 03, 2026, 02:05:06 PM
Lol. You’re parroting a leader in a country that is actively killing dissidents, sponsors terrorism, murders LGBTQ people, gives women no rights, etc just because you would rather believe him than Trump. Get some fucking help.

He’s not parroting Trump, what are you even talking about?
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 03, 2026, 02:06:50 PM
You repeatedly cheerlead military aggression for national gain

To be fair to Custard, the military agggresision against Iran will result in national loss, not gain
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Post by: Reacher on April 03, 2026, 06:36:22 PM
Post from Occupy Democrats on FB hitting all of Tempo’s talking points lol

The Iranian Ministry of Truth endorses this message!

Let the record show that Trump cucks like Custard were making the case that we’re “liberating Iranians!,” and totally ignore that Trump says “we’re going to bomb them back to the stone ages where they belong.” CUCK.
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Post by: Custard on April 04, 2026, 12:01:32 AM
Let the record show that Trump cucks like Custard were making the case that we’re “liberating Iranians!,” and totally ignore that Trump says “we’re going to bomb them back to the stone ages where they belong.” CUCK.

Meh
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 04, 2026, 01:01:32 PM
Meh

Spoken like a UConn fan
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Post by: Custard on April 04, 2026, 03:02:45 PM
Let the record show that Trump cucks like Custard were making the case that we’re “liberating Iranians!,” and totally ignore that Trump says “we’re going to bomb them back to the stone ages where they belong.” CUCK.

These aren’t even mutually exclusive concepts. Urging the Iranian people to overthrow their tyrannical government while continuing to decimate the very army infrastructure that they use to suppress their people is exactly what you want.

Sadly people like Tempo and Murph prop up the Iranians and take their propaganda as gospel just to stick it to Trump, so it’s working for Iran.

I saw some serious Iran propaganda this morning on Facebook. The Iranian leadership knows they can’t win and they really would like us to quit bombing them. Problem is they don’t want to appear weak and give up, so the only chance they have is to turn western sentiment so heavily against the war that it pressures a quicker end. I’d rather we finish the job, but you guys are eagerly buying in. I would love to see who is funding these AI ads that are meant to resemble news report posts. I’m sure China is heavily involved.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 04, 2026, 03:25:20 PM
These aren’t even mutually exclusive concepts. Urging the Iranian people to overthrow their tyrannical government while continuing to decimate the very army infrastructure that they use to suppress their people is exactly what you want.

Sadly people like Tempo and Murph prop up the Iranians and take their propaganda as gospel just to stick it to Trump, so it’s working for Iran.

I saw some serious Iran propaganda this morning on Facebook. The Iranian leadership knows they can’t win and they really would like us to quit bombing them. Problem is they don’t want to appear weak and give up, so the only chance they have is to turn western sentiment so heavily against the war that it pressures a quicker end. I’d rather we finish the job, but you guys are eagerly buying in. I would love to see who is funding these AI ads that are meant to resemble news report posts. I’m sure China is heavily involved.

What’s the job? Show your work.
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Post by: Reacher on April 04, 2026, 05:28:39 PM
These aren’t even mutually exclusive concepts. Urging the Iranian people to overthrow their tyrannical government while continuing to decimate the very army infrastructure that they use to suppress their people is exactly what you want.

Sadly people like Tempo and Murph prop up the Iranians and take their propaganda as gospel just to stick it to Trump, so it’s working for Iran.

I saw some serious Iran propaganda this morning on Facebook. The Iranian leadership knows they can’t win and they really would like us to quit bombing them. Problem is they don’t want to appear weak and give up, so the only chance they have is to turn western sentiment so heavily against the war that it pressures a quicker end. I’d rather we finish the job, but you guys are eagerly buying in. I would love to see who is funding these AI ads that are meant to resemble news report posts. I’m sure China is heavily involved.

Well they are also bombing civilians. You’ve heard Hegseth. Basically there’s no such thing as a war crime in his book. Why do you think he’s firing top generals?
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 05, 2026, 03:18:52 AM
Saw a few Illini fans tonight at the games in Illini bucket hats. I asked them for their hot political takes.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 04:21:02 AM
Sweet.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 05, 2026, 08:53:05 AM
Well they are also bombing civilians. You’ve heard Hegseth. Basically there’s no such thing as a war crime in his book. Why do you think he’s firing top generals?
Fortunately there were no civilians killed during the Biden or Obama administrations.

I thought you were privy to such things as the reasoning behind the firing of top generals.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 11:12:22 AM
Fortunately there were no civilians killed during the Biden or Obama administrations.

I thought you were privy to such things as the reasoning behind the firing of top generals.

If you think I’m pretty satisfied with the use of our military under Biden and Obama, you’ve got the wrong guy.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 11:34:23 AM
He’s a fucking lunatic. And Mn, Custard, and JudgeJudy can’t get enough of it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fRVPHXSR/IMG-6183.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Post by: Custard on April 05, 2026, 11:59:21 AM
Well they are also bombing civilians. You’ve heard Hegseth. Basically there’s no such thing as a war crime in his book. Why do you think he’s firing top generals?

Oh come on. You know as well as I do the Iranian scum hide their worst people and weapons under and near schools and other civilian structures. The school that was hit early on was a result of erroneous intelligence and hadn’t even been a school that long. Wasn’t like that’s what they set out to do.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 12:06:04 PM
Yeah, that’s what we always hear.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 12:06:51 PM
Hegseth has said in no uncertain terms anything is a target. Open your fucking ears.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 12:10:36 PM
“We also don’t fight with stupid rules of engagement.” i.e. we are willing to commit war crimes

https://x.com/skylinereport/status/2036619161464390041?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: Custard on April 05, 2026, 12:11:02 PM
Keep parroting Iranian state propaganda and making the objectives we need to accomplish even more difficult
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Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2026, 12:24:59 PM
I read that 30 + top level generals declined to support Trump/Hegesth plans for a ground invasion. A dozen were fired. Is that true?
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 12:28:12 PM
Keep parroting Iranian state propaganda and making the objectives we need to accomplish even more difficult

Keep cucking for a fascist regime.
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Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2026, 12:29:07 PM
Trump strategy: if you disagree with him you have TDS, you are siding with Iran/China / illegal immigrants/sex change for children at school ...
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 12:38:36 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRgHtb6Z/IMG-6187.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vx6PcjS9)
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 12:39:36 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRgHtb6Z/IMG-6187.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vx6PcjS9)

Custard: “More! More!”
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Post by: alum74 on April 05, 2026, 12:44:47 PM
He’s a fucking lunatic. And Mn, Custard, and JudgeJudy can’t get enough of it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fRVPHXSR/IMG-6183.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Well, there's an Easter message of peace and love.

A few days ago Trump said reopening the Strait of Hormuz was no big deal. It was up to the Europeans who needed the Strait, not the U.S. who did not need the Strait.  And the Strait would open "automatically" after the U.S. exited the war.

This post shows how Iran's control of the Strait has taken control of his mind.

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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 01:01:02 PM
It shows how he’s losing what’s left of his mind. If he wasn’t mentally unfit for office his 1st term (he was), he certainly is now.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 05, 2026, 01:11:47 PM
I read that 30 + top level generals declined to support Trump/Hegesth plans for a ground invasion. A dozen were fired. Is that true?
Randy George was Lloyd Austin's military assistant and promoted by Biden to Chief of Staff, an administrative position and not planning. He was asked to step down.
A few others were asked to step down over, among other reasons, what was viewed as an issue with their DEI positions.

Randy Manner, from Tempo's post, appeared as a Democrat witness in a Senate Judiciary hearing and supported Harris for President before Hegseth was nominated for his position. He retired 14 years ago. When was his last intelligence briefing ?

I'm not sure what the issue is.

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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 05, 2026, 01:13:24 PM
Trump strategy: if you disagree with him, you tend to side with Iran/China / illegal immigrants/sex change for children at school ...
Fixed.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 05, 2026, 01:21:25 PM
Fixed.

At least Custard has an excuse - he’s just doing it for the lolz. You belong in the memory home with DJT.

Open the fuckin’ strait.

That’s an interesting one. Donald would never be capable of using an apostrophe like that - never has. Who’s writing the tweets? The Mormons while DJT is holed up in the penthouse of the Desert Inn?
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 01:42:07 PM
Mn doesn’t see this as a bug, he voted for this.

https://x.com/ounkaonx/status/2040814761349382576?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 05, 2026, 01:58:12 PM
Mn doesn’t see this as a bug, he voted for this.

https://x.com/ounkaonx/status/2040814761349382576?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
15 name changes for the South Asian. bot.

https://i.supaimg.com/28ffdb3a-6566-47e2-8f33-df89cd87a059/f45d6438-1344-4496-b340-a2012d995bd6.jpg
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 05, 2026, 02:10:05 PM
Mn doesn’t see this as a bug, he voted for this.

https://x.com/ounkaonx/status/2040814761349382576?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
This guy ? Lol

(https://i.ibb.co/7td074tS/Screenshot-20260405-140839-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N2dGwS2F)
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Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2026, 02:39:05 PM
Fucked.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 05, 2026, 02:54:02 PM
As of April 2026, U.S. and Israeli airstrikes targeting Iranian infrastructure have damaged over 120 historic sites, including UNESCO World Heritage spots, with damage from debris, shockwaves, and direct hits. Key sites damaged include Tehran's Golestan Palace, the Chehel Sotoun Palace in Isfahan, and the ancient Masjed-e Jame mosque

The only thing Trump is doing is taking a country where half the people supported the regime and half hated it - and creating a country where everyone hates the US
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 05:18:58 PM
15 name changes for the South Asian. bot.

https://i.supaimg.com/28ffdb3a-6566-47e2-8f33-df89cd87a059/f45d6438-1344-4496-b340-a2012d995bd6.jpg

What about the part about the psychologist? Which was the important part.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 05:21:44 PM
This guy ? Lol

(https://i.ibb.co/7td074tS/Screenshot-20260405-140839-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N2dGwS2F)

Again, it’s about what the psychologist says, brainiac. Not who shared it.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 05, 2026, 08:46:03 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/G3nJXmzv/Screenshot-20260405-203657-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CsmtqLR5)
(https://i.ibb.co/B5r7SxZT/Screenshot-20260405-203807-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q3W4Pfsm)
(https://i.ibb.co/dsRb7yCS/Screenshot-20260405-203835-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8nHzXVvJ)

2 hours on the HQ2
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 05, 2026, 08:52:36 PM
What about the part about the psychologist? Which was the important part.
The important part may be that some dude pushing Iran propaganda gets sent your way.
How many Iran ambassadors do you follow ? 3-5 ?
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 05, 2026, 08:53:12 PM
Tempo follows bots on The Twotter? You don't say ..
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 08:57:10 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/G3nJXmzv/Screenshot-20260405-203657-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CsmtqLR5)
(https://i.ibb.co/B5r7SxZT/Screenshot-20260405-203807-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q3W4Pfsm)
(https://i.ibb.co/dsRb7yCS/Screenshot-20260405-203835-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8nHzXVvJ)

2 hours on the HQ2

What was your point here?
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 08:58:17 PM
Tempo follows bots on The Twotter? You don't say ..

There’s a difference between “following” and sharing a tweet. You don’t know the difference? You don’t say…
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 08:59:42 PM
The important part may be that some dude pushing Iran propaganda gets sent your way.
How many Iran ambassadors do you follow ? 3-5 ?

Zero. Three Card MNte at it again.
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 05, 2026, 09:00:43 PM
There’s a difference between “following” and sharing a tweet. You don’t know the difference? You don’t say…

Yes, following Iranian supporters on The Twotter is the way to go. Yep, that's the ticket.

Meanwhile, Trunp has successfully distracted you.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/key-details-donald-trump-accuser-13-told-fbi-were-censored-from-jeffrey-epstein-files/
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 09:01:41 PM
If Mn is on The Twotter, I’ll bet he gets all Trump propaganda.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 09:02:58 PM
Yes, following Iranian supporters on The Twotter is the way to go. Yep, that's the ticket.

Meanwhile, Trunp has successfully distracted you.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/key-details-donald-trump-accuser-13-told-fbi-were-censored-from-jeffrey-epstein-files/

Again, you apparently do not know the definition of the word “follow.” Either Webster’s or Twitter’s.
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Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2026, 09:03:26 PM
👁️

Attacking the source of an argument rather than the argument itself is generally a logical fallacy known as ad hominem (against the person) or the genetic fallacy. It occurs when someone ignores the substance of a claim and instead attacks the character, motive, or background of the person making it.

Key Aspects of Source-Attacking Fallacies:

*Ad Hominem (Abusive): A direct attack on a person's character, appearance, or personality to undermine their argument (e.g., "You're too young to understand this").

*Circumstantial Ad Hominem: Attacking a person's circumstances, such as their job, affiliations, or potential conflicts of interest, instead of their argument.

*Genetic Fallacy: Dismissing an argument based solely on its origin or source rather than its content.

*When It Is NOT a Fallacy: Criticizing a source is valid if the source's credibility, honesty, or expertise is directly relevant to the argument's veracity (e.g., questioning a witness's reliability in court).

Why It Is a Fallacy:
Attacking the source is a diversionary tactic used to avoid engaging with evidence. A person with poor character can still make a valid argument, and a reliable person can be wrong.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 09:03:40 PM
Yes, following Iranian supporters on The Twotter is the way to go. Yep, that's the ticket.

Meanwhile, Trunp has successfully distracted you.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/key-details-donald-trump-accuser-13-told-fbi-were-censored-from-jeffrey-epstein-files/

I’m aware of this.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 09:04:35 PM
Attacking the source of an argument rather than the argument itself is generally a logical fallacy known as ad hominem (against the person) or the genetic fallacy. It occurs when someone ignores the substance of a claim and instead attacks the character, motive, or background of the person making it.

Key Aspects of Source-Attacking Fallacies:

*Ad Hominem (Abusive): A direct attack on a person's character, appearance, or personality to undermine their argument (e.g., "You're too young to understand this").

*Circumstantial Ad Hominem: Attacking a person's circumstances, such as their job, affiliations, or potential conflicts of interest, instead of their argument.

*Genetic Fallacy: Dismissing an argument based solely on its origin or source rather than its content.

*When It Is NOT a Fallacy: Criticizing a source is valid if the source's credibility, honesty, or expertise is directly relevant to the argument's veracity (e.g., questioning a witness's reliability in court).

Why It Is a Fallacy:
Attacking the source is a diversionary tactic used to avoid engaging with evidence. A person with poor character can still make a valid argument, and a reliable person can be wrong.

It’s all part of Three Card MNte’s strategery.
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Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2026, 09:08:46 PM
As of April 2026, U.S. and Israeli airstrikes targeting Iranian infrastructure have damaged over 120 historic sites, including UNESCO World Heritage spots, with damage from debris, shockwaves, and direct hits. Key sites damaged include Tehran's Golestan Palace, the Chehel Sotoun Palace in Isfahan, and the ancient Masjed-e Jame mosque

That sounds like great public relations. Way to win friends and influence people. Reagan would be proud of Trump.
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Post by: Reacher on April 05, 2026, 09:19:38 PM
Are you under the impression I can only see tweets from accounts I “follow?” For the record, I “follow” almost 2,400 accounts. I can assure you I don’t know what all of them are “up to” exactly.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 05, 2026, 10:31:40 PM
What about the part about the psychologist? Which was the important part.
It's not surprising that some guy pushing Iran might use this post from this psychologist.
You're not supposed to see the connection.

John D. Gartner has faced significant criticism from within the mental health profession, ethicists, and political observers for his high-profile activism through Duty to Warn, particularly his public characterizations of Donald Trump as suffering from malignant narcissism (a mix of narcissism, antisocial/psychopathic traits, paranoia, and sadism) and, more recently, signs of cognitive decline or dementia based on public appearances, speech patterns, and behavior.

psychologytoday.com

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Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2026, 10:48:42 PM
It's not surprising that some guy pushing Iran might use this post from this psychologist.
You're not supposed to see the connection.

John D. Gartner has faced significant criticism from within the mental health profession, ethicists, and political observers for his high-profile activism through Duty to Warn, particularly his public characterizations of Donald Trump as suffering from malignant narcissism (a mix of narcissism, antisocial/psychopathic traits, paranoia, and sadism) and, more recently, signs of cognitive decline or dementia based on public appearances, speech patterns, and behavior.

psychologytoday.com
(https://i.ibb.co/chD7fnbm/Screenshot-20251227-142956-1-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1G8wyWsS)
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Post by: illiniray on April 05, 2026, 11:02:35 PM
Artificial intelligence mode

John D. Gartner is a psychologist and former part-time assistant professor at Johns Hopkins University Medical School who has frequently commented on Donald Trump’s mental health. As of early 2026, he remains a prominent critic, claiming that President Trump is exhibiting signs of accelerating cognitive decline and malignant narcissism.

Key Assessments & Activism

*Malignant Narcissism: Gartner describes Trump as a "malignant narcissist," a severe personality disorder characterized by narcissism, psychopathy, paranoia, and sadism.

*Dementia Claims: Since 2024, Gartner has argued that Trump shows "gross signs of dementia" rather than normal aging. He cites specific speech patterns, such as phonemic paraphasia (starting a word but finishing it with nonsense sounds), as clinical evidence.

*"Duty to Warn": Gartner founded the organization Duty to Warn, which argues that mental health professionals have an ethical obligation to alert the public when a leader's mental state poses a danger to the nation.

*"Shrinking Trump" Podcast: Along with psychologist Harry Segal, Gartner co-hosted this podcast for 70 episodes to analyze Trump’s psyche. The series concluded in October 2025, though Gartner continues to give interviews on the subject.

Publications
Gartner has authored and contributed to several books focused on these assessments:

*The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: A collection of essays by 27 mental health experts (2017).

*Rocket Man: Nuclear Madness and the Mind of Donald Trump.

Controversy

Gartner’s work is controversial within the medical community because it often bypasses the Goldwater Rule, an ethical principle that discourages psychiatrists from diagnosing public figures they have not personally examined. Critics, such as psychiatrist Allen Frances, argue that labeling Trump as "mentally ill" can stigmatize the illness and that his fitness should be addressed through political activism rather than psychology.
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Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 12:43:31 AM
It's not surprising that some guy pushing Iran might use this post from this psychologist.
You're not supposed to see the connection.

John D. Gartner has faced significant criticism from within the mental health profession, ethicists, and political observers for his high-profile activism through Duty to Warn, particularly his public characterizations of Donald Trump as suffering from malignant narcissism (a mix of narcissism, antisocial/psychopathic traits, paranoia, and sadism) and, more recently, signs of cognitive decline or dementia based on public appearances, speech patterns, and behavior.

psychologytoday.com

“You’re not supposed to see the connection.”

Ironic statement coming from a guy who apparently can’t tell that Trump is a textbook mentally ill narcissist.
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Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 12:47:35 AM
Who is in clear cognitive decline. You know all these things. You don’t care though, because deep down you’re a sadist, and an intellectually dishonest person. These are features for you, not bugs.
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Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 12:55:24 AM
https://x.com/charise_lee/status/2040944854822510677?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 06, 2026, 07:37:27 AM
If a guy in a bucket hat said it, I would believe it
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 06, 2026, 07:39:09 AM
I’m aware of this.

But didn't mention it here?
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 06, 2026, 07:59:07 AM

Trump is a textbook mentally ill narcissist.
I see you're still pushing your Iran propaganda. Lol
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 06, 2026, 08:01:03 AM
You don’t care though, because deep down you’re a sadist, and an intellectually dishonest person. These are features for you, not bugs.
Triggered much ?  Lol
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 06, 2026, 08:06:02 AM
https://x.com/charise_lee/status/2040944854822510677?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

You're on a roll today.  ;D


(https://i.ibb.co/jpDvNHZ/Screenshot-20260406-080339-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zkZhMNH)
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Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 09:03:15 AM
But didn't mention it here?

Am I required to share everything I learn/hear about here?
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Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 09:04:51 AM
You're on a roll today.  ;D


(https://i.ibb.co/jpDvNHZ/Screenshot-20260406-080339-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zkZhMNH)

That’s great. You still gleefully support a malignant narcissistic fascist.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 06, 2026, 09:40:32 AM
That’s great. You still gleefully support a malignant narcissistic fascist.
Keep sharing your Iran propaganda and fake videos. It's entertaining and good for your social media cred. Lol
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Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 09:53:36 AM
Keep sharing your Iran propaganda and fake videos. It's entertaining and good for your social media cred. Lol

Keep supporting a malignant narcissistic fascist who’s in obvious cognitive decline. It makes you look smart.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 06, 2026, 09:58:39 AM
Keep supporting a malignant narcissistic fascist who’s in obvious cognitive decline. It makes you look smart.
Keep promoting Iran propaganda and fake videos. It makes you look smart.
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Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 10:29:19 AM
Keep promoting Iran propaganda and fake videos. It makes you look smart.

Keep being a fascist! Makes you look cool!
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Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 10:30:27 AM
The guy on Team Hegseth says I’m falling for propaganda. Can’t make this shit up.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 06, 2026, 10:49:01 AM
The guy on Team Hegseth says I’m falling for propaganda. Can’t make this shit up.
I didn't say that tho.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 06, 2026, 12:16:50 PM
Who is in clear cognitive decline. You know all these things. You don’t care though, because deep down you’re a sadist, and an intellectually dishonest person. These are features for you, not bugs.

That’s unfair. He’s just stupid. Stupid can be mistaken for all sorts of things  , but in the end let’s apply Occam’s razor
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 06, 2026, 12:37:23 PM
Am I required to share everything I learn/hear about here?

You are kidding, right?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 06, 2026, 12:38:35 PM
You're on a roll today.  ;D


(https://i.ibb.co/jpDvNHZ/Screenshot-20260406-080339-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zkZhMNH)


C'mon, Tempo. You need to step it up here!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 06, 2026, 12:39:15 PM
The guy on Team Hegseth says I’m falling for propaganda. Can’t make this shit up.

Uh, you both can be falling for propaganda. Flip side of the same coin, and all!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 01:45:30 PM
You are kidding, right?

So.the answer is yes?
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Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 01:46:41 PM

C'mon, Tempo. You need to step it up here!

How come you never ask the guys who are signed up for fascism under a malignant narcissist to "step it up?"
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 01:49:04 PM
For the first time ever, Hegseth fires Army Chief of Chaplins. He also happens to be black. Was he not on board with the white nationalist Christian agenda, I wonder?

https://baptistnews.com/article/for-first-time-ever-army-chief-of-chaplains-fired-by-hegseth/
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Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 01:50:54 PM
Well isn't this surprising.

Within his one-year tenure, Hegseth has fired or sidelined more than two dozen senior military leaders, heavily targeting Black and female officers and elevating white men to leadership roles in their place.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 06, 2026, 01:53:26 PM
So.the answer is yes?

On that topic, yes
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ridingthegrange on April 06, 2026, 04:52:05 PM
Fareed with a good overview. 

https://enewspaper.dailycamera.com/infinity/article_popover_share.aspx?guid=66d964f5-f64a-4a65-9655-1fe383eac766&share=true


'"In fact, reports suggest that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sold Trump on this war not because Iran was an imminent threat, but because its unprecedented weakness provided an opportunity to strike hard to effect regime change. Why else would Trump have closed his brief announcement at the start of the war by urging the Iranian people to rise up and overthrow the regime — a call echoed by Netanyahu in his own message?"


"The obvious winner is Russia, which will make billions of extra dollars each month as the price of oil rises and the U.S. waives sanctions against it. Ukraine loses as weapons that it needs are diverted to the Middle East. Europe loses as it faces crushing energy costs and Trump demands that NATO fight his war and threatens to pull out of the organization if it doesn’t. (It’s worth noting that NATO is a defensive alliance and did not fight in the wars in Korea, Vietnam or Iraq.) China gains as the U.S. gets mired in another Middle Eastern conflict and loses its focus on Asia. Meanwhile, Beijing’s massive investments in green technology shield it from many of the costs of this war, and it appears to the world as a more responsible, less disruptive superpower."
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2026, 04:55:01 PM
Stop sharing Iranian propaganda…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 07, 2026, 09:33:03 AM
👁️

Attacking the source of an argument rather than the argument itself is generally a logical fallacy known as ad hominem (against the person) or the genetic fallacy. It occurs when someone ignores the substance of a claim and instead attacks the character, motive, or background of the person making it.

Key Aspects of Source-Attacking Fallacies:

*Ad Hominem (Abusive): A direct attack on a person's character, appearance, or personality to undermine their argument (e.g., "You're too young to understand this").

*Circumstantial Ad Hominem: Attacking a person's circumstances, such as their job, affiliations, or potential conflicts of interest, instead of their argument.

*Genetic Fallacy: Dismissing an argument based solely on its origin or source rather than its content.

*When It Is NOT a Fallacy: Criticizing a source is valid if the source's credibility, honesty, or expertise is directly relevant to the argument's veracity (e.g., questioning a witness's reliability in court).

Why It Is a Fallacy:
Attacking the source is a diversionary tactic used to avoid engaging with evidence. A person with poor character can still make a valid argument, and a reliable person can be wrong.

Says the guy who categorically refuses to read a news source right of Mother Jones. Same goes for Alum, who says that my sources (direct) suck. 🤡
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 07, 2026, 09:38:27 AM
That’s unfair. He’s just stupid. Stupid can be mistaken for all sorts of things  , but in the end let’s apply Occam’s razor

This is the richest of rich. Murph swoops in to defend Tempo (after Mn made him look dumb for Tempoing and doing all the dumb Tempo things) to reassure Tempo that Mn is the dumb one. Nice little circle jerk, boys.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 07, 2026, 09:48:34 AM
Fareed with a good overview. 

https://enewspaper.dailycamera.com/infinity/article_popover_share.aspx?guid=66d964f5-f64a-4a65-9655-1fe383eac766&share=true


'"In fact, reports suggest that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sold Trump on this war not because Iran was an imminent threat, but because its unprecedented weakness provided an opportunity to strike hard to effect regime change. Why else would Trump have closed his brief announcement at the start of the war by urging the Iranian people to rise up and overthrow the regime — a call echoed by Netanyahu in his own message?"


"The obvious winner is Russia, which will make billions of extra dollars each month as the price of oil rises and the U.S. waives sanctions against it. Ukraine loses as weapons that it needs are diverted to the Middle East. Europe loses as it faces crushing energy costs and Trump demands that NATO fight his war and threatens to pull out of the organization if it doesn’t. (It’s worth noting that NATO is a defensive alliance and did not fight in the wars in Korea, Vietnam or Iraq.) China gains as the U.S. gets mired in another Middle Eastern conflict and loses its focus on Asia. Meanwhile, Beijing’s massive investments in green technology shield it from many of the costs of this war, and it appears to the world as a more responsible, less disruptive superpower."

This one is Chinese propaganda.

No mention that the US is a net exporter of oil? Or that China buys 80-90% of Iran’s oil exports at a steep discount because the west has them sanctioned?

China is temporarily insulated because they stockpiled a shitload of cheap Iranian oil leading up to this and have a shitload of cheap dirty coal. They’re about 2-3 months from being in a tough spot if this goes on. Yeah they’ll be able to get more oil from Russia but it will take a little time to evolve to that.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 07, 2026, 11:19:24 AM
Simple for Mn/Custard.

Genocide - good/bad?

Trump won't actually perform this tonight, and will just claim that Iran "agreed" to something. If I'm Iran, I tell him to fuck right off, we ain't opening the fuckin' strait. Trump can say that they agreed to something but that won't change the increase in gas prices, and Trump will be fucked.

Or maybe if the guy is really insane and orders the power plants and bridges destroyed, then we get the real crisis when the Military refuses. The media should be playing clips from Nuremberg nonstop.... "We were just following orders"

Where is Christopher Walken when we need him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj9M34DzAKo
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 12:53:01 PM
If it were genocide he would have falttened the whole country by now. The term has officially lost any meaning. Well done, progressives.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 07, 2026, 01:04:52 PM
If it were genocide he would have falttened the whole country by now. The term has officially lost any meaning. Well done, progressives.

If he actually destroys all of the power plants and bridges, in a country of 92 million, the death rate from starvation, lack of water, etc... could exceed the holocaust.

Thankfully it's taco tuesday so I'm not specifically worried.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 07, 2026, 01:06:47 PM
If it were genocide he would have falttened the whole country by now. The term has officially lost any meaning. Well done, progressives.

 U.S. President Donald Trump warned that a "whole civilization will die tonight" if Tehran does not meet his latest deadline for the Islamic Republic to agree to a deal that includes reopening the crucial Strait of Hormuz.

"Whole civilization" dying tonight - how exactly does that not dovetail with genocide? I know he'll "chicken out" but he at least made the hollow threat...
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 01:11:25 PM
Just using rhetoric like that is insane. Trump has severely damaged our reputational standing in the world.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 01:12:57 PM
If it were genocide he would have falttened the whole country by now. The term has officially lost any meaning. Well done, progressives.

This makes zero sense. Genocide has been threatened, so duh, it’s not genocide until it actually happens.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 01:15:07 PM
This is the richest of rich. Murph swoops in to defend Tempo (after Mn made him look dumb for Tempoing and doing all the dumb Tempo things) to reassure Tempo that Mn is the dumb one. Nice little circle jerk, boys.

The guy who constantly preaches junk science is going after me for falling for an AI vid. Can’t make this up.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 01:35:18 PM
U.S. President Donald Trump warned that a "whole civilization will die tonight" if Tehran does not meet his latest deadline for the Islamic Republic to agree to a deal that includes reopening the crucial Strait of Hormuz.

"Whole civilization" dying tonight - how exactly does that not dovetail with genocide? I know he'll "chicken out" but he at least made the hollow threat...

Israeli TV having a watch party like it’s a countdown to NYE.

https://x.com/ryangrim/status/2041575911137374659?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: Custard on April 07, 2026, 02:01:03 PM
The guy who constantly preaches junk science is going after me for falling for an AI vid. Can’t make this up.

I’ve preached zero junk science. Provides links
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 07, 2026, 02:01:47 PM
Grok says this guy is pretty damn accurate. The post requires reading and is pretty long so tempo probably won’t read it, but some might. Guess we’ll see.

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2041517800263721107?s=46
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 02:58:59 PM
If he actually destroys all of the power plants and bridges, in a country of 92 million, the death rate from starvation, lack of water, etc... could exceed the holocaust.

Thankfully it's taco tuesday so I'm not specifically worried.

Skeptical. Still waiting for the death toll from Trump cutting off fhe NGO Money Spigot in Africa that we were all told was coming. Maybe the NGOs stopped overpaying adninistrators?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 03:00:22 PM
U.S. President Donald Trump warned that a "whole civilization will die tonight" if Tehran does not meet his latest deadline for the Islamic Republic to agree to a deal that includes reopening the crucial Strait of Hormuz.

"Whole civilization" dying tonight - how exactly does that not dovetail with genocide? I know he'll "chicken out" but he at least made the hollow threat...

Unless he nukes them, it isn't happening as threatened.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 03:00:47 PM
Just using rhetoric like that is insane. Trump has severely damaged our reputational standing in the world.

They don't care.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 03:01:36 PM
This makes zero sense. Genocide has been threatened, so duh, it’s not genocide until it actually happens.

It doesn't make sense if you have zero clue what the word means.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 03:02:32 PM
The guy who constantly preaches junk science is going after me for falling for an AI vid. Can’t make this up.

Basically you are admitting to not  being any better than Custard? Ok....
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Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 03:41:04 PM
I’ve preached zero junk science. Provides links

LOLOLOLOL
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Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 03:41:37 PM
Basically you are admitting to not  being any better than Custard? Ok....

I can assure you, I’m not the only one here who gets duped from time to time.
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 03:42:05 PM
LOLOLOLOL

The Classic Tempo Response When He Has No Answer? Hmmm.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 04:45:02 PM
The Classic Tempo Response When He Has No Answer? Hmmm.

I reserve that for absurd comments that don’t deserve a real response.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 04:59:16 PM
This is the first time in my lifetime a military coup in the U.S. didn’t sound like a terrible idea.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 05:03:34 PM
They don't care.

Sure they do. It makes us look untrustworthy and unstable.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 05:04:25 PM
Skeptical. Still waiting for the death toll from Trump cutting off fhe NGO Money Spigot in Africa that we were all told was coming. Maybe the NGOs stopped overpaying adninistrators?

Hardcore Democrat for sure.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 05:05:37 PM
It doesn't make sense if you have zero clue what the word means.

What you said made zero sense. It can’t be a genocide if the action hasn’t been committed yet.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 05:10:43 PM
Grok says this guy is pretty damn accurate. The post requires reading and is pretty long so tempo probably won’t read it, but some might. Guess we’ll see.

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2041517800263721107?s=46

How does the Persian Gulf being crippled hurt the demand for Russian oil? The demand should go up, not down.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 07, 2026, 05:18:43 PM
Skeptical. Still waiting for the death toll from Trump cutting off fhe NGO Money Spigot in Africa that we were all told was coming. Maybe the NGOs stopped overpaying adninistrators?

Let’s test it out. Shut off the water main and breakers for your home and don’t leave for a week. Get back to us and tell us how it went.
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Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 05:20:10 PM
https://x.com/amiraminimd/status/2041592326439485546?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 07, 2026, 05:20:47 PM
I’ve preached zero junk science. Provides links

You do lots of science on junk every time you go to the locker room. Standard GOP
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Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 05:44:03 PM
https://x.com/financelancelot/status/2041573450712555689?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 06:00:13 PM
Sure they do. It makes us look untrustworthy and unstable.

They MAGAs don't care. Too busy supporting Orban who is actively working for the Soviets and against the rest of Free Europe.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 06:01:12 PM
Let’s test it out. Shut off the water main and breakers for your home and don’t leave for a week. Get back to us and tell us how it went.

I can have water and other things delivered....
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 06:02:05 PM
Let’s test it out. Shut off the water main and breakers for your home and don’t leave for a week. Get back to us and tell us how it went.

They probably don't even have power over there 24/7
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 06:03:07 PM
What you said made zero sense. It can’t be a genocide if the action hasn’t been committed yet.

You still have zero clue what the damned word means.
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Post by: Judge Judy on April 07, 2026, 06:04:42 PM
They probably don't even have power over there 24/7

If you look on Snapchat, the country is completely blacked out. Only them and North Korea are that way. Absolutely zero public stories. Complete blackout…
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 06:06:40 PM
If you look on Snapchat, the country is completely blacked out. Only them and North Korea are that way. Absolutely zero public stories. Complete blackout…

Amazing they are not already dead or completely malnourished.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 07, 2026, 06:22:22 PM
I can have water and other things delivered....

OK little Gregg - the final question on your first grade biology quiz - "Where does Milk come from?"

Gregg - "The store!"
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 07, 2026, 06:23:26 PM
If you look on Snapchat, the country is completely blacked out. Only them and North Korea are that way. Absolutely zero public stories. Complete blackout…

Bad - Facebook
Worse - Twitter
WTF - Snapchat
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 06:23:34 PM
OK little Gregg - the final question on your first grade biology quiz - "Where does Milk come from?"

Gregg - "The store!"

Yep. I'm not like Ted Nugent and milking cows.
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2026, 06:24:18 PM
Hardcore Democrat for sure.

Yep. Unlike you. Who is a Progressive SDA Commie.
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Post by: Custard on April 07, 2026, 07:55:34 PM
IACO
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Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 11:21:18 PM
They MAGAs don't care. Too busy supporting Orban who is actively working for the Soviets and against the rest of Free Europe.

I’m not talking about MAGA. I’m talking about Britain, France, Belgium, and Australia. They see inflammatory rhetoric like this come from an American president, and it hurts our reputation around the world.
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Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 11:22:20 PM
Yep. Unlike you. Who is a Progressive SDA Commie.

LOLOLOLOLOL free shots don’t matter…
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Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 11:24:13 PM
If you look on Snapchat, the country is completely blacked out. Only them and North Korea are that way. Absolutely zero public stories. Complete blackout…

You can’t get real news on the Twotter! You have to go to SnapChat!
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Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 11:26:26 PM
You still have zero clue what the damned word means.

Obliterating a country of 91 million people would qualify, of that I’m sure.
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Post by: Judge Judy on April 07, 2026, 11:27:07 PM
You can’t get real news on the Twotter! You have to go to SnapChat!

I wasn’t reporting any news. Just that it’s all blacked out. You’re being disingenuous…

I only get my news from FOX News, get it right…
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Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 11:28:43 PM
I wasn’t reporting any news. Just that it’s all blacked out. You’re being disingenuous…

I only get my news from FOX News, get it right…

You certainly talk like you only get it from Fox. I have heard you cite “The Five!” A couple times.
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Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2026, 11:29:48 PM
Reporting “conditions” inside Iran is basically sharing “news.”
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 07:49:35 AM
LOLOLOLOLOL free shots don’t matter…

We all know as you told us this years ago
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 07:52:18 AM
Obliterating a country of 91 million people would qualify, of that I’m sure.

And it is still standing as if today. I'm shocked!  I'm sure Murph and you are disappointed as you seemed cery excited by the prospects for a genocide.
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 07:54:19 AM
Who knew that Bill Clinton using The Twotter to discuss the NCAA championship game would stop the genocide (this week)? Way to go Bill!
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Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 08:33:58 AM
We all know as you told us this years ago

LOL yeah
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Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 08:35:30 AM
And it is still standing as if today. I'm shocked!  I'm sure Murph and you are disappointed as you seemed cery excited by the prospects for a genocide.

You’re really a stupid cock sucker sometimes. The mere fact that a U.S. President is “tweeting” about nuking a country is insane itself. I never actually believed it was going to happen.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 08:55:41 AM
You’re really a stupid cock sucker sometimes. The mere fact that a U.S. President is “tweeting” about nuking a country is insane itself. I never actually believed it was going to happen.

When did he say he was going to nuke them? Also, if he did say he was going to nuke them, wouldn't the DEFCON level, etc. be elevated? That didn't happen. Sorry, not sorry you are disappointed here.

Insert crying towel gif here
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 08, 2026, 09:17:35 AM
When did he say he was going to nuke them?
You're just being a disingenuous fuck.  ;D  ;D
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Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 10:02:31 AM
When did he say he was going to nuke them? Also, if he did say he was going to nuke them, wouldn't the DEFCON level, etc. be elevated? That didn't happen. Sorry, not sorry you are disappointed here.

Insert crying towel gif here

Any person with an IQ over 80 would be able to discern that he was talking about using nuclear weapons when he said he was on the verge of  “wiping out an entire civilization”

You’re doing a hell of an Mn impersonation, though.
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Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 10:04:01 AM
You're just being a disingenuous fuck.  ;D  ;D

Captain Disingenuous chimes in right on cue.

I wrote the above post before reading this.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 08, 2026, 10:08:21 AM
Shutting down Iran's electrical grid with cyber warfare was never discussed. The discussions went straight to a nuclear strike sufficient to wipe the country and its citizens out.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 10:13:25 AM
Not sure shutting down an electrical grid is quite damaging enough to “wipe out an entire civilization.” I’d say quit being so disingenuous, but I know you literally can’t.
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Post by: Custard on April 08, 2026, 10:52:15 AM
More reality for the “pointless war with no objectives” tards

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2041854957071356028?s=46
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 08, 2026, 10:55:18 AM
Trump tbreatened to wipe out the remaining Iranians that the regime didn't eliminate.
😂
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Post by: illiniray on April 08, 2026, 11:02:51 AM
What's the latest on the flat tariff on everyone?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 08, 2026, 11:28:58 AM
And it is still standing as if today. I'm shocked!  I'm sure Murph and you are disappointed as you seemed cery excited by the prospects for a genocide.

Can I presume that you, like myself, went long the stock markets and short the oil markets yesterday?

If you can't put your money where your mouth is, then who needs you?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 08, 2026, 11:30:06 AM
When did he say he was going to nuke them? Also, if he did say he was going to nuke them, wouldn't the DEFCON level, etc. be elevated? That didn't happen. Sorry, not sorry you are disappointed here.

Insert crying towel gif here

met·a·phor
/ˈmedəˌfôr/
noun
a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 11:31:31 AM
Trump tbreatened to wipe out the remaining Iranians that the regime didn't eliminate.
😂

How would you interpret the words “wipe out an entire civilization?”
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 08, 2026, 11:32:31 AM
Any person with an IQ over 80 would be able to discern that he was talking about using nuclear weapons when he said he was on the verge of  “wiping out an entire civilization”

You’re doing a hell of an Mn impersonation, though.

Wait - you weren't using a metaphor?

Trump's bluster - while we know it was just bluster - required no use of nukes. There aren't *that* many power plants in Iran, regular old conventional missiles would be able to take them offline for months, very easily. I mean, cold weather took half the power plants in Texas down for a week. There were never gonna be any nukes.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 08, 2026, 11:33:52 AM
More reality for the “pointless war with no objectives” tards

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2041854957071356028?s=46
"Shanaka Anslem Perera"

Sounds like a rag head. Do not trust.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 11:36:58 AM
“A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.”

Cmon now, there’s no way to interpret that as “we’re gonna disable their power grid.”
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 08, 2026, 11:38:22 AM
How would you interpret the words “wipe out an entire civilization?”

Dude - it was Trump. He's fucking demented.

The literal threat was to take out the power plants and bridges. That's electricity and transport, which fucks up water, food, hospitals. Unless Trump was going to follow this up with substantial food and water aid, which was not in place for Gaza let alone Iran, a lot of people would die, and their overall economy would take a massive long term hit. There would be refugees headed towards other nearby countries that could barely serve their own people.

There were never gonna be nukes. Besides, it was all a shell game to manipulate the stock market, as PAMan and myself can tell you as we made massive profits going long yesterday. Right, Gregg?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: alum74 on April 08, 2026, 11:42:07 AM
More reality for the “pointless war with no objectives” tards

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2041854957071356028?s=46

Talk is cheap.  A twitter post that may or may not contain accurate information.  I think I’ll wait to see what the “total surrender” or “total obliterated” deal looks like in two weeks.

Meanwhile we have a worse version of the same regime in Iran that maintains drone, missile and nuclear weapons research capabilities.  It will be interesting to see if Iran keeps some form of its tariffs on Hormuz commerce. 

Thankfully, Pakistan and other Asian countries worked behind the scenes to provide Trump with a possible off-ramp. 

This is a War of Whim. 
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 11:49:22 AM
The literal threat was nukes. Not that he was ACTUALLY going to do it, but you don’t wipe out a civilization forever by knocking out their power grid.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 12:16:13 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/zG9ctv28/IMG-6232.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/vT3K3vCw/IMG-6231.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fSS5bYw8)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 08, 2026, 01:33:33 PM
How would you interpret the words “wipe out an entire civilization?”
Omg, he's going to drop MOAMB wasn't on my bingo card or ouija board. 🤣🤣
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 01:38:09 PM
Any person with an IQ over 80 would be able to discern that he was talking about using nuclear weapons when he said he was on the verge of  “wiping out an entire civilization”

You’re doing a hell of an Mn impersonation, though.
C'mon, you didn't even address the DEFCON part.  Look who really is the dumb stupid ass cocksucker: You in case you don't realize it.  He wasn't going to nuke them, moron. Take this dumbass shit to The Twotter.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 01:40:27 PM
met·a·phor
/ˈmedəˌfôr/
noun
a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.

Uh, as we can see here, Oblivious Tempo actually believed Trump was going to nuke Iran, despite no DEFCON elevation, etc. etc.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 01:41:36 PM
Wait - you weren't using a metaphor?

Trump's bluster - while we know it was just bluster - required no use of nukes. There aren't *that* many power plants in Iran, regular old conventional missiles would be able to take them offline for months, very easily. I mean, cold weather took half the power plants in Texas down for a week. There were never gonna be any nukes.

Fucking hilarious. John, how long have you read Tempo's posts? He isn't into metaphors, is literal, and isn't into nuance.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 01:46:37 PM
The literal threat was nukes. Not that he was ACTUALLY going to do it, but you don’t wipe out a civilization forever by knocking out their power grid.

Keep digging the hole dude, keep digging the hole
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 01:47:13 PM
This is great. Even Murph is on Tempo's ass
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 01:56:28 PM
C'mon, you didn't even address the DEFCON part.  Look who really is the dumb stupid ass cocksucker: You in case you don't realize it.  He wasn't going to nuke them, moron. Take this dumbass shit to The Twotter.

Where did I ever say he was ACTUALLY going to do it? Probably in the same post where I said free shots don’t matter, I’m’ guessing…
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 01:57:32 PM
Keep digging the hole dude, keep digging the hole

You don’t wipe out an entire civilization forever by knocking out their power grid. That’s absurd.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 02:02:19 PM
Fucking hilarious. John, how long have you read Tempo's posts? He isn't into metaphors, is literal, and isn't into nuance.

The guy who saw no difference between Bill Clinton tweeting about the Final Four the same morning Donald Trump threatened to wipe out an entire country vs Elizabeth Warren proposing legislation to keep prices down on sports streaming are indistinguishable (and “talking about sports!) is lecturing me on nuance. You couldn’t make up this level of cluelessness if you tried.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 02:06:33 PM
Where did I ever say he was ACTUALLY going to do it? Probably in the same post where I said free shots don’t matter, I’m’ guessing…

Hahahahahahaha. Keep digging that hole! This is why no one can take progressives seriously. Just lie lie lie

Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 02:07:37 PM
Hahahahahahaha. Keep digging that hole! This is why no one can take progressives seriously. Just lie lie lie

If I’m lying should be easy to look up the proof then. It’s only 24 hours old. Couldn’t be easier to find. I’ll wait.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2026, 02:12:47 PM
If I’m lying should be easy to look up the proof then. It’s only 24 hours old. Couldn’t be easier to find. I’ll wait.

You had Murph fooled! Hahahahaha
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 08, 2026, 05:43:41 PM
Iran is in a much stronger strategic position than it was on February 27, 2026. It now will have US recognition of its right to charge tolls (which have been described as high as $2million a ship) to go through the Strait. One recent JP Morgan report estimated that Iran keeping tolls on shipping in the Strait could amount to a yearly windfall for the Iranian government of $70-90 billion. That is completely new, fresh cash, in perpetuity. That would make this one of the richest reparations packages in history; could be more one trillion dollars in fewer than 12 years.

The Obama administration transferred a total of $1.7 billion in cash to Iran in 2016


90, 1.7 - what’s the difference between friends
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 07:08:06 PM
So we won the war?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 08, 2026, 08:51:03 PM
This young lady has a message for Custard and Judy.

https://x.com/i/status/2041838430082973958
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 05:48:51 AM
So we won the war?
"we" ?

You're on the side of Iran, correct ?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 06:01:06 AM
This young lady has a message for Custard and Judy.

https://x.com/i/status/2041838430082973958
Custard, Judy. I watched it so you don't have to.

Tempo, how did this clown's stuff end up finding you ?
(https://i.ibb.co/TMpxr1nn/Screenshot-20260409-055826-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GQB4F911)


Oh, and JonnyUtd is based in the UK.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on April 09, 2026, 06:40:12 AM
This young lady has a message for Custard and Judy.

https://x.com/i/status/2041838430082973958

She is not wrong, not literally. Some of what she said lacks context.. People with her educated perspective should be engaged, not dismissed.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on April 09, 2026, 06:42:31 AM
"we" ?

You're on the side of Iran, correct ?

We as in us, the United States. You guys  don't get to shoot ot deport Americans you disagree with. For the most part, not yet.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on April 09, 2026, 06:48:42 AM
Custard, Judy. I watched it so you don't have to.

Tempo, how did this clown's stuff end up finding you ?
(https://i.ibb.co/TMpxr1nn/Screenshot-20260409-055826-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GQB4F911)


Oh, and JonnyUtd is based in the UK.

Now do:

https://x.com/i/status/1436337714509484037
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 07:02:15 AM
"we" ?

You're on the side of Iran, correct ?

Did I stutter?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 07:06:58 AM
Now do:

https://x.com/i/status/1436337714509484037
"SCIENCE IS NOT A LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!"
9:36 AM · Sep 10, 2021

She's probably correct. Wtf said science is a liberal conspiracy ?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 07:07:46 AM
Did I stutter?
I don't know. Did you ?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 09, 2026, 07:27:15 AM
This young lady has a message for Custard and Judy.

https://x.com/i/status/2041838430082973958

Oh good a Gen Z chick with neck and hand tats giving a TikTok history lesson. Have you put an Iran flag on your Twitter handle yet?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 07:40:41 AM
Custard, Judy. I watched it so you don't have to.

Tempo, how did this clown's stuff end up finding you ?
(https://i.ibb.co/TMpxr1nn/Screenshot-20260409-055826-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GQB4F911)


Oh, and JonnyUtd is based in the UK.

I am hopeful the day will come when Mn will debate the actual content of a post instead look for some sort of “impurity” associated with the poster’s timeline or profile, but alas, I know that I am just kidding myself. That will never happen.

(https://i.postimg.cc/br418TYw/IMG-6237.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6XNx2CP)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 07:41:35 AM
Oh good a Gen Z chick with neck and hand tats giving a TikTok history lesson. Have you put an Iran flag on your Twitter handle yet?

That’s a really intelligent person’s response. No doubt you’re intelligent by any measure.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 07:42:32 AM
"we" ?

You're on the side of Iran, correct ?

You’re a disingenous dipshit, correct?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 07:44:41 AM
You guys  don't get to shoot ot deport Americans you disagree with. For the most part, not yet.
Tell that to the family of Sheridan Gorman and Sarah Beckstrom.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 07:49:30 AM
You’re a disingenous dipshit, correct?
It seemed like a logical question when you're posting stuff from some dude in the UK who sides with Iran.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 09, 2026, 08:14:17 AM
Custard AOTC per usual:

Quote
Pro-Iran groups have used artificial intelligence to create slick internet memes in English to try to shape the narrative during the war against the U.S. and Israel and foster opposition to it.

Analysts say the memes appear to be coming from groups linked to the government in Tehran and are part of a strategy of leveraging its limited resources to inflict damage on the U.S., even indirectly.

"This is a propaganda war for them (Iran)," said Neil Lavie-Driver, an AI researcher at the University of Cambridge. "Their goal is to sow enough discontent with the conflict as to eventually force the West to cave in, so it is massively important to them."

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-trump-ceasefire-strait-hormuz-israel-war-hezbollah-continues/

Beware, Tempo!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 09, 2026, 08:17:18 AM
Custard AOTC per usual:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-trump-ceasefire-strait-hormuz-israel-war-hezbollah-continues/

Beware, Tempo!

It's a feature for him, not a bug.

Nonetheless, this is looking like it isn't over yet. Which may not mean that this is not a complete strategic failure, but it wouldn't surprise me if it remains that way given the Clown In Chief in charge
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 08:22:46 AM
Custard AOTC per usual:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-trump-ceasefire-strait-hormuz-israel-war-hezbollah-continues/

Beware, Tempo!


Didn’t everyone know this already?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 08:23:44 AM
It's a feature for him, not a bug.

Nonetheless, this is looking like it isn't over yet. Which may not mean that this is not a complete strategic failure, but it wouldn't surprise me if it remains that way given the Clown In Chief in charge

The war is over. We won. I heard Trump say this multiple times.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 09, 2026, 08:37:31 AM

Didn’t everyone know this already?

I think you became aware of it when we pointed out you were reposting AI generated Iranian propaganda
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 08:46:42 AM
I think you became aware of it when we pointed out you were reposting AI generated Iranian propaganda

Whatever you say, boss.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 09:06:05 AM
If this were anyone other than Pete Kegsbreath, I’d find this shocking. The Pentagon calls in a Cardinal who basically an ambassador of the Church to the U.S. to tell him the Catholic Church (and The Pope) need to get on board because the U.S. military can do whatever they want.

https://x.com/acyn/status/2041966303431553387?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 09:07:00 AM
Custard, Mn, and Judy need to watch this. Spot on.

https://x.com/mynamesnotgordy/status/2042017050860699740?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on April 09, 2026, 09:38:26 AM
Oh good a Gen Z chick with neck and hand tats giving a TikTok history lesson. Have you put an Iran flag on your Twitter handle yet?

Yeah, they expect us to take this lady seriously 😂 …

(https://i.ibb.co/NgZRB3Zc/IMG-8598.png) (https://ibb.co/dsGZYcG8)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 09:43:30 AM
Custard, Mn, and Judy need to watch this. Spot on.

https://x.com/mynamesnotgordy/status/2042017050860699740?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Custard and Judy, I watched it so you don't have to.

It's a post from some dude from Canada posting a video from some comedian who, I assume, hasn't been in on all of the high level administration and national security meetings.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 10:33:11 AM
Custard and Judy, I watched it so you don't have to.

It's a post from some dude from Canada posting a video from some comedian who, I assume, hasn't been in on all of the high level administration and national security meetings.

Again, what did he say that was inaccurate?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 10:33:37 AM
Yeah, they expect us to take this lady seriously 😂 …

(https://i.ibb.co/NgZRB3Zc/IMG-8598.png) (https://ibb.co/dsGZYcG8)

I don’t think that’s her. But even if it was, so what?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 10:34:06 AM
What part rubbed you the wrong way, Judy? “Refuse fascism?”
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 10:48:32 AM
If all I get is leftist propaganda in my feed, explain how I saw this.

https://x.com/ryptocrypto/status/2042149805804208211?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 10:50:54 AM
If all I get is leftist propaganda in my feed, explain how I saw this.

https://x.com/ryptocrypto/status/2042149805804208211?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

My main problem with this theory is that rich people would benefit greatly. Your average American would not.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 10:51:27 AM
And Trump isn’t that clever. Although he’s very good at running scams. It’s his one area of genius.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 10:54:44 AM
If all I get is leftist propaganda in my feed, explain how I saw this.

https://x.com/ryptocrypto/status/2042149805804208211?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
This guy ?

Account based in
Europe

8 username changes
Last on March 2026
Connected via
Europe App Store
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 10:56:03 AM
I think Tempo might be a foreign agent.
😂😂
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 09, 2026, 11:04:18 AM
What part rubbed you the wrong way, Judy? “Refuse fascism?”

Maybe that she is a Libra?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on April 09, 2026, 11:51:13 AM
"SCIENCE IS NOT A LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!"
9:36 AM · Sep 10, 2021

She's probably correct. Wtf said science is a liberal conspiracy ?

While we can can quibble over semantics and I am sure you probably will, that is pretty much a core MAGA position.

Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 12:05:58 PM
While we can can quibble over semantics and I am sure you probably will, that is pretty much a core MAGA position.


Uh, ok. Whatever.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on April 09, 2026, 12:22:23 PM
Awake A 👁️

Recent polling and analysis from early 2026 indicate a significant, ongoing partisan divide in trust in science, with MAGA (Make America Great Again) supporters generally exhibiting higher skepticism toward scientific institutions, vaccines, and climate change consensus compared to the general population.

Trust in Science and Institutions

*Declining Trust: A 2026 report indicates that trust in federal health agencies like the CDC, FDA, and NIH has fallen among the general public during the second Trump administration, decreasing from 74%–76% in February 2024 to 60%–62% by February 2026.

*Partisan Divide: Data from 2022–2024 shows that while trust in science was relatively similar in the 1970s, it has polarized. By 2024, only 36% of Republicans expressed "a great deal" of trust in the scientific community, compared with 45% of Democrats.

*MAGA Perspective: MAGA supporters often exhibit distrust in expert-driven institutions and favor independent, non-governmental sources of information.

Vaccines and "MAHA" Movement

*MAHA Movement Skepticism: The "Make America Healthy Again" (MAHA) movement, aligned with MAGA supporters, holds high levels of skepticism toward vaccines.

*Vaccine Attitudes: A February 2026 poll found that 65% of MAHA respondents supported reducing the number of vaccines Americans receive, compared to 41% of the general population

*Policy Impact: MAHA-supporting parents are twice as likely as non-supporters to s okkip or delay vaccines for their children.

*Republicans report higher usage of non-evidence-based COVID-19 treatments like ivermectin.

Climate Change

*Partisan Divide: Climate science is a major area of polarization. A 2020 report found 87% of Democrats trusted climate scientists, compared to 56% of Republicans.

*MAGA Views: Studies show that supporters of Donald Trump are less likely than those who disapprove of him to agree that human activity drives climate change (50% vs. 79%, respectively).

*Scientific Consensus Disconnect: Conservative ideology and Trumpism have been linked to a higher likelihood of rejecting anthropogenic (human-caused) climate change, a trend that decreases with higher education.

Key Findings on Public Health Policies

*Vaccine Policy Changes: In February 2026, amid policy changes that reduced the number of diseases targeted by routine childhood vaccinations, trust in the CDC among the general public remained at a low level.

*Trusted Messengers: Despite the overall distrust, some studies found that using trusted messengers—such as seeing Donald Trump speak positively about vaccines—could increase vaccine acceptance among his supporters.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 09, 2026, 12:43:56 PM

AI

"Do maga supporters view science as a liberal conspiracy

Searching the web

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Searching on X

15 results

No, MAGA supporters do not generally view science itself as a "liberal conspiracy." That framing is a common oversimplification pushed in partisan media, but it doesn't hold up under scrutiny of polling data, historical trends, or the actual critiques from many on the right.

undark.org

Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 09, 2026, 12:49:50 PM
Haha

https://x.com/gatorgar/status/2041672770761699786?s=46

(https://i.ibb.co/93VQDh97/IMG-3748.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S7dFjcXz)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 09, 2026, 12:55:13 PM
And Trump isn’t that clever. Although he’s very good at running scams. It’s his one area of genius.

You guys were the ones saying that this was a war of whim with no plan and no strategy and no clear objectives, despite the WH publishing the strategy and objectives. A guy like Victor Davis Hanson who has been studying American foreign wars for over 50 years giving detailed daily breakdowns on the why and how. Military experts posting videos to socials and YouTube daily breaking down strategy and the machines and how they were being used. When I pointed this out, I was told my sources suck.

All this to say that I’m glad you’re coming around to the idea that there was a plan. A lot goes into something like this, it isn’t just Trump waving a magic wand out of nowhere and making a large scale military operation happen on the spot.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: alum74 on April 09, 2026, 01:50:16 PM
You guys were the ones saying that this was a war of whim with no plan and no strategy and no clear objectives, despite the WH publishing the strategy and objectives. A guy like Victor Davis Hanson who has been studying American foreign wars for over 50 years giving detailed daily breakdowns on the why and how. Military experts posting videos to socials and YouTube daily breaking down strategy and the machines and how they were being used. When I pointed this out, I was told my sources suck.

All this to say that I’m glad you’re coming around to the idea that there was a plan. A lot goes into something like this, it isn’t just Trump waving a magic wand out of nowhere and making a large scale military operation happen on the spot.

Victor Davis Hanson is a neocon and Trump fluffer who was a staunch supporter for the 2003 Iraq invasion and holds interventionist foreign policy views.   

The stakes are never higher and there's nothing worse for a country or leader than going to war incompetently.  Iran has shown it can create challenges for the global economic system and force various parties to adjust.  Even though the U.S. holds overwhelming military power, it has accepted a two-week pause under conditions it cannot fully dictate. 

And what did Trump achieve? 

Regime change?  - Iran’s regime is now strengthened.
Capture/destroy their uranium? - We've basically given up on that.
Destroy their military? - Some of it yes, but they had enough to bomb other Gulf Petrostates, Israel, and U.S. military targets.

Iran now controls the Strait of Hormuz, and nothing we do short of boots on the ground is going to change that fact.  Perhaps Hanson and you can lead the first wave to take the Strait.  ALL GLORY TO GOD!!!


Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on April 09, 2026, 02:26:17 PM
And Trump isn’t that clever. Although he’s very good at running scams. It’s his one area of genius.

He is clever at marketing campaigns. Make America Great Again. America First. The Failing New York Times. The Fake News. The Russia Hoax. Biden's Open Border Policies. The violent illegal immigrants from shithole countries.
.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 02:35:09 PM
This guy ?

Account based in
Europe

8 username changes
Last on March 2026
Connected via
Europe App Store

You’ll do anything to avoid an actual debate, won’t you.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 02:36:31 PM
This guy ?

Account based in
Europe

8 username changes
Last on March 2026
Connected via
Europe App Store

Did you even watch the video, dimwit? Or just check the origin, like always.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 02:37:18 PM
While we can can quibble over semantics and I am sure you probably will, that is pretty much a core MAGA position.

Exactly. Custard would lap that up with a spoon and sour dough.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 02:38:16 PM
Haha

https://x.com/gatorgar/status/2041672770761699786?s=46

(https://i.ibb.co/93VQDh97/IMG-3748.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S7dFjcXz)

Both can be true.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 02:39:19 PM
You guys were the ones saying that this was a war of whim with no plan and no strategy and no clear objectives, despite the WH publishing the strategy and objectives. A guy like Victor Davis Hanson who has been studying American foreign wars for over 50 years giving detailed daily breakdowns on the why and how. Military experts posting videos to socials and YouTube daily breaking down strategy and the machines and how they were being used. When I pointed this out, I was told my sources suck.

All this to say that I’m glad you’re coming around to the idea that there was a plan. A lot goes into something like this, it isn’t just Trump waving a magic wand out of nowhere and making a large scale military operation happen on the spot.

At no point did I say I was coming around to the idea of a plan. There are definite “holes” in this theory.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 02:40:38 PM
Victor Davis Hanson is a neocon and Trump fluffer who was a staunch supporter for the 2003 Iraq invasion and holds interventionist foreign policy views.   

The stakes are never higher and there's nothing worse for a country or leader than going to war incompetently.  Iran has shown it can create challenges for the global economic system and force various parties to adjust.  Even though the U.S. holds overwhelming military power, it has accepted a two-week pause under conditions it cannot fully dictate. 

And what did Trump achieve? 

Regime change?  - Iran’s regime is now strengthened.
Capture/destroy their uranium? - We've basically given up on that.
Destroy their military? - Some of it yes, but they had enough to bomb other Gulf Petrostates, Israel, and U.S. military targets.

Iran now controls the Strait of Hormuz, and nothing we do short of boots on the ground is going to change that fact.  Perhaps Hanson and you can lead the first wave to take the Strait.  ALL GLORY TO GOD!!!

🎯
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 02:41:06 PM
He is clever at marketing campaigns. Make America Great Again. America First. The Failing New York Times. The Fake News. The Russia Hoax. Biden's Open Border Policies. The violent illegal immigrants from shithole countries.
.

True.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: illiniray on April 09, 2026, 02:44:20 PM
True.

Anyone else tried that shit; they would have been dismissed as a far right wing extremist. 
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 09, 2026, 03:24:46 PM
Victor Davis Hanson is a neocon and Trump fluffer who was a staunch supporter for the 2003 Iraq invasion and holds interventionist foreign policy views.   

The stakes are never higher and there's nothing worse for a country or leader than going to war incompetently.  Iran has shown it can create challenges for the global economic system and force various parties to adjust.  Even though the U.S. holds overwhelming military power, it has accepted a two-week pause under conditions it cannot fully dictate. 

And what did Trump achieve? 

Regime change?  - Iran’s regime is now strengthened.
Capture/destroy their uranium? - We've basically given up on that.
Destroy their military? - Some of it yes, but they had enough to bomb other Gulf Petrostates, Israel, and U.S. military targets.

Iran now controls the Strait of Hormuz, and nothing we do short of boots on the ground is going to change that fact.  Perhaps Hanson and you can lead the first wave to take the Strait.  ALL GLORY TO GOD!!!

They control it and are now going to charge tolls. Job well done, Trump! We would have been far better off if he napped through all this like Sleepy Joe would have.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 09, 2026, 03:26:52 PM
You’ll do anything to avoid an actual debate, won’t you.

Yes, we all need more Iranian/Soviet/Chinese bot videos to watch and Twotts to read. Man, you have been sucked in by troll farmers even more so than usual. 

Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 04:29:39 PM
Yes, we all need more Iranian/Soviet/Chinese bot videos to watch and Twotts to read. Man, you have been sucked in by troll farmers even more so than usual.

Forest. Trees.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 04:42:52 PM
Making the world safer by killing innocent mothers.

https://x.com/alrougui/status/2041997086506279257?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 09, 2026, 04:50:14 PM
Forest. Trees.

I can tell there are fake trees in this forest....
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 09, 2026, 04:56:37 PM
🎯

Yep he totally nailed it.

Except the regime is objectively weakened and under increasing pressure, not strengthened.

We are still after their uranium as part of the deal

Their economy can’t function long term with the strait effectively closed and I’ll be shocked shitless if this “toll system” actually amounts to anything long term. Other places produce oil and can ramp up production and close whatever gap exists sooner than later.

Upwards of 90% of their military capacities are destroyed or severely degraded.  Leadership is fractured and in disarray. They’re tenuously holding onto power by false bravado and coercion versus actual popularity.

These points I’m making are verifiable and objective, not Alum and Tempo’s “gut emotional feelings” about what may be playing out.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 09, 2026, 06:00:41 PM
Custard and Judy, I watched it so you don't have to.

It's a post from some dude from Canada posting a video from some comedian who, I assume, hasn't been in on all of the high level administration and national security meetings.

Live shot from the Hugh level national security meeting. Bonus - Custards entire family is there showing us their Ag cred

https://youtu.be/ZMHfBobgLSI?si=1BOxirGHSTYfoSKB

Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 06:01:35 PM
I can tell there are fake trees in this forest....

Again, you are too fixated on the forest to see the trees. Was the woman wrong? Have we, or have we not been tricked into wars?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 09, 2026, 09:58:39 PM
Again, you are too fixated on the forest to see the trees. Was the woman wrong? Have we, or have we not been tricked into wars?

I am not clicking on any of The Twotter links. Do not want to get a computer virus.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 09, 2026, 10:41:42 PM
I am not clicking on any of The Twotter links. Do not want to get a computer virus.

Why not? Might complement the Herpes well.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 09, 2026, 11:16:36 PM
Why not? Might complement the Herpes well.

We all see what The Twotter Herpes has done to you! You have forgotten about The Epstein File!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 10, 2026, 01:28:00 PM
https://x.com/charise_lee/status/2042457160249196848?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 10, 2026, 02:31:44 PM
https://x.com/charise_lee/status/2042457160249196848?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

BLARGH! WHO IS CHARLISE LEE!!!!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 10, 2026, 04:35:49 PM
Someone with almost 300k followers and apparently not an Asian bot.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 10, 2026, 04:36:39 PM
Someone with almost 300k followers and apparently not an Asian bot.

Can't you buy followers on The Twotter?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 10, 2026, 04:37:08 PM
Can't you buy followers on The Twotter?

I guess. 300,000 of them?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 10, 2026, 04:45:29 PM
I guess. 300,000 of them?

How much does it cost? Probably not much if they are all bots?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 10, 2026, 04:53:03 PM
Someone with almost 300k followers and apparently not an Asian bot.

It doesn't matter if they were an Asian Bot. They posted an actual video of real reporters.

That was my point.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 10, 2026, 05:36:50 PM
How much does it cost? Probably not much if they are all bots?

15 year old account. Not an Asian bot. No name changes. Can’t you buy followers? The bar is always so high for what I’m allowed to share.

Seriously though, I don’t know if followers can be “bought.” You can promote tweets, but I think they charge you by the interaction, so I’m guessing it would be expensive. Not sure, though.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 10, 2026, 06:16:20 PM
15 year old account. Not an Asian bot. No name changes. Can’t you buy followers? The bar is always so high for what I’m allowed to share.

Seriously though, I don’t know if followers can be “bought.” You can promote tweets, but I think they charge you by the interaction, so I’m guessing it would be expensive. Not sure, though.

Betting Murph knows.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 12, 2026, 11:40:08 AM
Betting Murph knows.

What Murph knew was that Vance would strike out, that Trump set him up to fail, and that trump would do something nutty over the weekend to tank the stock market, so I moved my entire 401k to cash on friday.

Trump says US will blockade the Strait of Hormuz
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 12, 2026, 06:53:31 PM
Winning?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 12, 2026, 07:12:45 PM
https://x.com/jesuschryslerii/status/2043337589499769154?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 12, 2026, 07:20:59 PM
Judge Judy might wanna watch this.

https://x.com/virgini58967394/status/2043137909071528146?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 12, 2026, 08:37:39 PM
Trump says US will blockade the Strait of Hormuz

Awesome! Let’s fuckin goooo
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 12, 2026, 08:48:34 PM
Awesome! Let’s fuckin goooo

Custard = high gas prices is a match!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 13, 2026, 08:31:01 AM
Awesome! Let’s fuckin goooo

Custard wants $8 gas prices.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 13, 2026, 08:31:40 AM
Custard wants $8 gas prices.

And a further tanking of the markets.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 13, 2026, 09:49:05 AM
Custard wants $8 gas prices.

You should have been smart like him and pre paid for all your gas and put it in your storage tank!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 13, 2026, 01:23:23 PM
And a further tanking of the markets.

There’s already a ton of risk premium built into oil/gas that isn't related to supply and demand fundamentals, and the markets may be getting to the point where they are not going to be as reactive to every little thing happening in Iran. Talks fell apart, blockade announced, oil went up a bit, stocks fell a bit (but only around $100 a barrel which is sustainable) and then the markets rallied and are up for the day.

This too shall pass.

Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 13, 2026, 01:40:43 PM
There’s already a ton of risk premium built into oil/gas that isn't related to supply and demand fundamentals, and the markets may be getting to the point where they are not going to be as reactive to every little thing happening in Iran. Talks fell apart, blockade announced, oil went up a bit, stocks fell a bit (but only around $100 a barrel which is sustainable) and then the markets rallied and are up for the day.

This too shall pass.

If Trump got up there and said $4.25 gas is sustainable, even JD Vance would vote to impeach.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 13, 2026, 08:56:44 PM
If Trump got up there and said $4.25 gas is sustainable, even JD Vance would vote to impeach.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/why-100-oil-wont-break-american-consumer-2026-03-23/
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 14, 2026, 03:05:50 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/65Lr3Bh1/IMG-6290.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GHt8gwVk)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 14, 2026, 03:10:50 PM
AIPAC and corporate owned Dems basically admitting they are buying each other off.

(https://i.postimg.cc/25v8kSQS/IMG-6295.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtqdFH4C)

https://x.com/shadowofezra/status/2043876070860993020?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 14, 2026, 03:16:04 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/zBzmszp7/IMG-6296.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3xhHXFpf/IMG-6298.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 14, 2026, 03:16:32 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/zBzmszp7/IMG-6296.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3xhHXFpf/IMG-6298.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 14, 2026, 03:38:55 PM
AIPAC and corporate owned Dems basically admitting they are buying each other off.

(https://i.postimg.cc/25v8kSQS/IMG-6295.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtqdFH4C)

https://x.com/shadowofezra/status/2043876070860993020?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Why do progressives actually hate Black people?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 14, 2026, 04:29:36 PM
Why do progressives actually hate Black people?

This is the content I come here for. How can I subscribe to your newsletter?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 14, 2026, 05:05:30 PM
Why do progressives actually hate Black people?

That’s an interesting take.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 14, 2026, 05:07:16 PM
Apparently we hate Hispanics and Asian/Pacific Americans too, because AIPAC brags they are their leading fundraiser in the ad as well.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 14, 2026, 05:08:05 PM
This is the content I come here for. How can I subscribe to your newsletter?

DM me and I will send you the cryptocurrency address where you can send the money for the subscription.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 14, 2026, 05:08:44 PM
That’s an interesting take.

I am not the one criticizing the Black Congressional Caucus.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 14, 2026, 05:08:54 PM
Send him Trump Coin, Murph.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 14, 2026, 05:09:18 PM
I am not the one criticizing the Black Congressional Caucus.

Neither was I.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 14, 2026, 05:09:26 PM
Apparently we hate Hispanics and Asian/Pacific Americans too, because AIPAC brags they are their leading fundraiser in the ad as well.

Actually, you guys are more patronizing of them.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 14, 2026, 05:09:53 PM
Neither was I.

Sure you weren't.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 14, 2026, 05:11:10 PM
Sure you weren't.

I was criticizing all Dems on the AiPAC payroll, not just the black ones.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 14, 2026, 08:05:21 PM
Send him Trump Coin, Murph.
Murphcoin. It’s going to the moon!
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Judge Judy on April 14, 2026, 08:20:10 PM
Murphcoin. It’s going to the moon!

Or Johncoin… kinda ironic
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 14, 2026, 09:24:45 PM
I was criticizing all Dems on the AiPAC payroll, not just the black ones.
That's your story and you are sticking with it.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 14, 2026, 10:43:40 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/65Lr3Bh1/IMG-6290.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GHt8gwVk)


Must be lapping up the same Iranian propaganda you are
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: alum74 on April 14, 2026, 11:17:37 PM

Must be lapping up the same Iranian propaganda you are

https://www.thirdway.org/memo/how-young-men-view-trump-2-0-after-one-year

Being a toxic edgelord playing Call of Duty isn't the affordable hobby it used to be, and they aren't buying Trump's line about affordability being a hoax invented by Democrats.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 14, 2026, 11:19:17 PM
https://www.thirdway.org/memo/how-young-men-view-trump-2-0-after-one-year

Being a toxic edgelord playing Call of Duty isn't the affordable hobby it used to be, and they aren't buying Trump's line about affordability being a hoax invented by Democrats.

Also because of 24/7 Trump fear porn propaganda
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: alum74 on April 14, 2026, 11:33:12 PM
Also because of 24/7 Trump fear porn propaganda

Indies, Hispanics and now young men, oh my!

Keep doubling down on shitty, Trumptards.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Custard on April 14, 2026, 11:35:46 PM
Indies, Hispanics and now young men, oh my!

Keep doubling down on shitty, Trumptards.


Keep doubling down on useless polls that Trump always outperforms, TDStard
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: alum74 on April 14, 2026, 11:53:25 PM

Keep doubling down on useless polls that Trump always outperforms, TDStard

You mean the same useless polls that showed Biden was hemorrhaging support among Hispanics and young men in 2023-2024?

I think many regret being taken in by a con man.  I don't expect them to register as Democrats, but they are gettable votes for the mid-terms.  And the smart GOP political operatives know it.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 15, 2026, 04:14:22 AM

Must be lapping up the same Iranian propaganda you are

If Pew Research is Iranian propaganda, sure .
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 15, 2026, 04:15:26 AM
Also because of 24/7 Trump fear porn propaganda

LOL
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: murphstahoe on April 15, 2026, 10:53:51 AM
https://www.thirdway.org/memo/how-young-men-view-trump-2-0-after-one-year

Being a toxic edgelord playing Call of Duty isn't the affordable hobby it used to be, and they aren't buying Trump's line about affordability being a hoax invented by Democrats.

And at some point if you’re a young man not working for some high tech firm, you’re freaked the fuck out Trumps gonna hand you a uniform and a gun and say “good luck” as he kicks you off the boat in Hormuz

Fighting the Nazis - good
Fighting “who???” - not good
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 15, 2026, 01:27:08 PM
Today, while at Woodman’s, a guy had his cart at an angle, taking up the entire pathway. Another lady and I were coming opposite directions. We had a bit of a jam there when I said “This is like the Strait of Hormuz!” The only person that laughed was the guy working in the produce department.
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 15, 2026, 01:28:49 PM
Eggs were dirt cheap. Tomatoes and green beans were up bigly. $4.29 a pound for green beans?!one lady in the the checkout lane in front of me had 15 dozen eggs. What the hell was she planning?
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: ThePAMan on April 15, 2026, 02:35:41 PM
Eggs were dirt cheap. Tomatoes and green beans were up bigly. $4.29 a pound for green beans?!one lady in the the checkout lane in front of me had 15 dozen eggs. What the hell was she planning?

Maybe she is stocking up like a smart farmer stocks up on fertilizer!
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Post by: Custard on April 15, 2026, 04:43:20 PM
Maybe she is stocking up like a smart farmer stocks up on fertilizer!

Maybe she’s going to use the eggs to fertilize her plants. Eggs are $1.69 here.
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 02:50:18 AM
As low as .99 at Woodmans. I think I paid $1.49 for jumbos. Maybe less
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 16, 2026, 05:52:27 AM
My neighbor mentioned eggs yesterday after I had brought a loaf of sourdough to another neighbor.
He toasts some sourdough, then puts bacon on, a fried egg, then covers it all with a white gravy.

Neither of the neighbors are racist Germans, but 1 married a woman with German ancestry.
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Post by: Custard on April 16, 2026, 08:11:18 AM
Nailed it:

Quote
I genuinely don’t know whether to laugh or lose my mind anymore at this European hypocritical double standards.

When it comes to Vladimir Putin, suddenly it’s Churchillian resolve. No compromise. No dialogue. Arm Ukraine to the teeth, sanction everything that moves, wreck your own energy security if necessary - because tyranny must be confronted.

Fine. I actually respect the consistency of that … in isolation.

But then you turn around and lecture us - us - the Gulf monarchies, Jordan and Israel, about showing restraint with Tehran? About dialogue? About coexistence?

Are you serious?

For forty years - forty bloody years - this regime has been waging a shadow war across the region. Militias, proxies, sleeper cells, terror networks, destabilizing entire countries - Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen - and threatening the Gulf monarchies, Jordan, and Israel nonstop.

This isn’t theoretical. This isn’t abstract. This is lived reality.

And yet here come Emmanuel Macron, Keir Starmer, and the rest of the European choir, gently advising us to calm down, de-escalate, and - what was it again? - “give diplomacy a chance.”

Diplomacy with who, exactly? With a system that has built its entire regional strategy on plausible deniability and proxy terror violence?

You were willing to absorb inflation, energy shocks, and political backlash at home to confront Moscow. You made that choice. You said: this is the price of standing up to a tyrant.

So don’t come here and tell us - after decades of being on the receiving end - that we should just sit down, smile politely, and “coexist.”

Either you believe in confronting tyranny everywhere .. or you don’t.

https://x.com/aimendean/status/2044345568496144688?s=46
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Post by: Custard on April 16, 2026, 08:11:57 AM
My neighbor mentioned eggs yesterday after I had brought a loaf of sourdough to another neighbor.
He toasts some sourdough, then puts bacon on, a fried egg, then covers it all with a white gravy.

Neither of the neighbors are racist Germans, but 1 married a woman with German ancestry.

Sounds pretty damn good, eggs, bacon, sourdough, and white gravy are all universal love languages
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 16, 2026, 09:42:37 AM
Nailed it:

https://x.com/aimendean/status/2044345568496144688?s=46

Neville Chamberlain lives, apparently.
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 12:39:43 PM
Kegsbreath is not only incompetent, he’s criminal. Oh, and he quoted a fictional
Bible verse from Pulp Fiction.

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/2037741408111505761?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 16, 2026, 01:11:24 PM
The 1st 5 comments are from accounts based in Jordan, Pakistan, Greece, Cyprus and South Asia.

🤷
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Post by: alum74 on April 16, 2026, 02:04:34 PM
Nailed it:

https://x.com/aimendean/status/2044345568496144688?s=46

Stupid post and untethered from reality.

Prior to the war, Trump's attacking NATO, undermining Ukraine, threatening Greenland and imposing tariffs on European products.

Now Trump's attacking the Pope, alienating Italy's right wing government that is most ideologically compatible with him.  Sending JD to Hungry was also a dumbass move.

Bullying your allies is not how you build trust and support for a military campaign.  Ths same allies that worked with us to contain the Soviet Union threat.

Oh well...elect a clown, get a circus.
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 02:06:01 PM
The 1st 5 comments are from accounts based in Jordan, Pakistan, Greece, Cyprus and South Asia.

🤷

I guess the Internet works as intended, then.
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 02:08:03 PM
The 1st 5 comments are from accounts based in Jordan, Pakistan, Greece, Cyprus and South Asia.

🤷

First.
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 02:12:31 PM
The 1st 5 comments are from accounts based in Jordan, Pakistan, Greece, Cyprus and South Asia.

🤷

Here’s someone from America (apparently the only country that matters).

https://x.com/mermaidmamamags/status/2044844396919816498?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 02:22:47 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/VkyFdBvz/IMG-6310.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xp85P59P)
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 02:26:50 PM
The 1st 5 comments are from accounts based in Jordan, Pakistan, Greece, Cyprus and South Asia.

🤷

Yet another post where Mn responds without commenting on the actual content of the post.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 16, 2026, 02:41:33 PM
Yet another post where Mn responds without commenting on the actual content of the post.
Hegseth didn't say what the video says he said.

☝️
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 16, 2026, 03:26:08 PM
I guess the Internet works as intended, then.

Yep, spreading misinformation left and right!
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 16, 2026, 04:45:55 PM
I guess the Internet works as intended, then.
You misspelled algorithm.
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 08:12:32 PM
Hegseth didn't say what the video says he said.

☝️

And neither did Trump…
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 08:12:47 PM
You misspelled algorithm.

Internet.
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 08:13:20 PM
If that algorithm shit were true, I wouldn’t constantly see MAGA shit in my timeline.
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 16, 2026, 08:47:46 PM
Kegsbreath is not only incompetent, he’s criminal. Oh, and he quoted a fictional
Bible verse from Pulp Fiction.

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/2037741408111505761?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ



The transcript.

HEGSETH: Which leads me finally to a prayer that I'll read, which was also handed to me a couple of days ago, delivered from the lead mission planner of Sandy-1. Sandy-1 were the A-10s that were a part of the daylight rescue mission of 44 Alpha - Dude 44 Alpha out of Iran. And if you know anything about Sandies, their job is to bring those A-10s and put them in between the enemy and that down pilot. And so their job is to literally sacrifice themselves for someone else, and in Iran and contested territory, that's exactly what they did. So it's this prayer was recited by Sandy-1, which is one of the Sandies, to all Sandies, all those A-10 crews prior to all CSAR missions, but especially this CSAR mission that happened in real time. They call it CSAR 25:17, which I think is meant to reflect Ezekiel 25:17. So the prayer is CSAR 25:17 and it reads and pray with me please: "The path of the downed aviator is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of camaraderie and duty, shepherd the lost through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children, and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to capture and destroy my brother, and you will know my call sign is Sandy-1 when I lay my vengeance upon thee, and Amen."
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 16, 2026, 08:49:53 PM
If that algorithm shit were true, I wouldn’t constantly see MAGA shit in my timeline.

Uh...... You sure about that?
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 09:47:23 PM
Uh...... You sure about that?

Well I see both anti-MAGA and MAGA shit in my timeline, so make of that what you will.
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 09:48:41 PM
Of course, it’s going to feed me stuff I interact with/want to see, like golf/politics/football. But I see political posts from across the spectrum.
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 16, 2026, 09:49:29 PM
Well I see both anti-MAGA and MAGA shit in my timeline, so make of that what you will.

Means the algorithm has sucked you in
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Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2026, 09:51:30 PM
Means the algorithm has sucked you in

It’s all algorithms these days.

(https://i.postimg.cc/HWX3G5KM/IMG-6312.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BtZ2H8JZ)
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Post by: Custard on April 17, 2026, 01:58:09 AM
The transcript.

HEGSETH: Which leads me finally to a prayer that I'll read, which was also handed to me a couple of days ago, delivered from the lead mission planner of Sandy-1. Sandy-1 were the A-10s that were a part of the daylight rescue mission of 44 Alpha - Dude 44 Alpha out of Iran. And if you know anything about Sandies, their job is to bring those A-10s and put them in between the enemy and that down pilot. And so their job is to literally sacrifice themselves for someone else, and in Iran and contested territory, that's exactly what they did. So it's this prayer was recited by Sandy-1, which is one of the Sandies, to all Sandies, all those A-10 crews prior to all CSAR missions, but especially this CSAR mission that happened in real time. They call it CSAR 25:17, which I think is meant to reflect Ezekiel 25:17. So the prayer is CSAR 25:17 and it reads and pray with me please: "The path of the downed aviator is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of camaraderie and duty, shepherd the lost through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children, and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to capture and destroy my brother, and you will know my call sign is Sandy-1 when I lay my vengeance upon thee, and Amen."

I saw about 5 AI rage bait posts about the today that showed up almost like ads on FB. They were from big name sources mostly and all the people in the comments were lapping it up like Tempo. I hadn’t seen the transcript until you posted it, obviously was a play on the movie, and kinda clever.
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Post by: Reacher on April 17, 2026, 06:01:38 AM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2026/04/16/pete-hegseth-quotes-violent-prayer-from-pulp-fiction-references-bible/
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 17, 2026, 06:14:56 AM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2026/04/16/pete-hegseth-quotes-violent-prayer-from-pulp-fiction-references-bible/
David Feherty may have been referring to Forbes, 'social media influencers', and some randos on message boards regarding other issues also. 😂😂😂😂

"There are still some writers and broadcasters that take pride in their work, but this generation has spawned fast typists that consider themselves to be experts, and evidently, they're not."

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Post by: Custard on April 17, 2026, 12:26:30 PM
David Feherty may have been referring to Forbes, 'social media influencers', and some randos on message boards regarding other issues also. 😂😂😂😂

"There are still some writers and broadcasters that take pride in their work, but this generation has spawned fast typists that consider themselves to be experts, and evidently, they're not."

Most of the writers of this shit are rage bait bots finding easy marks in the tempos and alums of the world
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Post by: Reacher on April 17, 2026, 02:54:49 PM
I love how literally everything Custard doesn’t agree with can just be tossed into the “rage bait” bin.
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Post by: Custard on April 17, 2026, 05:54:29 PM
I love how literally everything Custard doesn’t agree with can just be tossed into the “rage bait” bin.

That’s not accurate at all. A lot of the rage bait isn’t even close to accurate or factual and people are just running with it. Ironically all the same people who cried misinformation during the pandemic.
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Post by: Reacher on April 17, 2026, 08:21:57 PM
Custard? Care to rebut?

https://x.com/i/status/2044971861176459360
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Post by: Reacher on April 17, 2026, 08:41:32 PM
What do you do with a drunken Hegseth?

https://x.com/realstewpeters/status/2044987725711904944?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: Custard on April 18, 2026, 01:11:33 AM
Custard? Care to rebut?

https://x.com/i/status/2044971861176459360

(https://i.ibb.co/99CrdJJ8/IMG-3895.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tMWJ1SSm)
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Post by: Custard on April 18, 2026, 01:13:05 AM
What do you do with a drunken Hegseth?

https://x.com/realstewpeters/status/2044987725711904944?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

https://x.com/its_davidcastro/status/2045043157704806817?s=46
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Post by: Reacher on April 18, 2026, 08:10:58 AM
Sean Hannity “no longer Catholic,” may suffocate with both of Trump’s balls in his mouth.

https://x.com/mikenellis/status/2045183141472596372?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 18, 2026, 08:34:27 AM
Who had a visit with the Pope days before CBS had 3 Bishops or Cardinals, or whatever, who voiced their opposition to the Iran conflict and the Pope voiced his ?
All in a matter of a few days.
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Post by: Reacher on April 18, 2026, 09:15:22 AM
Wut
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 18, 2026, 11:15:45 AM
Who had a visit with the Pope days before CBS had 3 Bishops or Cardinals, or whatever, who voiced their opposition to the Iran conflict and the Pope voiced his ?
All in a matter of a few days.

I'm skeptical The White Sox Pope was swayed by anyone on the issues. He's not Trump who tends to be swayed by the last person he speaks with.
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 18, 2026, 11:17:34 AM
So much for the Straits being "open." Iran just fucking with Trump over and over again. Humiliating.
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Post by: alum74 on April 18, 2026, 12:00:23 PM
So much for the Straits being "open." Iran just fucking with Trump over and over again. Humiliating.

Here we go again...tit for tat.

The U.S. handed Iran a very powerful tool in foreign relations.  Every time something isn't to their liking, they close the Strait or jack up the price.
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Post by: illiniray on April 18, 2026, 12:38:55 PM
Here we go again...tit for tat.

The U.S. handed Iran a very powerful tool in foreign relations.  Every time something isn't to their liking, they close the Strait or jack up the price.

That behavior seems familiar for some strange reason..
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 18, 2026, 12:40:39 PM
Wut
Should I have typed slower ?
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Post by: illiniray on April 18, 2026, 12:49:34 PM
Wut

I gather he means David Axelrod swayed the Pope? He implied that. Is implying stuff allowed?
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 18, 2026, 12:56:39 PM
Because Senior Advisors of ex-President's commonly meet with the Pope. Especially the pro-abortion Senior Advisors of ex-Presidents.
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Post by: Custard on April 18, 2026, 01:23:58 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/g5sWpKQ/IMG-3898.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ckx9ZG4)
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Post by: Custard on April 18, 2026, 01:28:16 PM
So much for the Straits being "open." Iran just fucking with Trump over and over again. Humiliating.

How so? The blockade is still in place.

And don’t worry, Keir Starmer and the cavalry are on their way to help!

We really don’t need much of what comes through that strait. It’s hurting Iran and China way more than us.
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Post by: illiniray on April 18, 2026, 01:34:53 PM
Axelrod is actually politically pro-choice. It appears he hasn't discussed his private views on abortion in public. He said his audience with the Pope was granted months ago. They are both the same age and there is the Chicago connection. Perhaps a common view of nationalism?
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Post by: Custard on April 18, 2026, 01:42:55 PM
Fucking hilarious everyone is so concerned with what the papists think all of a sudden
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Post by: Reacher on April 18, 2026, 01:47:54 PM
Should I have typed slower ?

No, but you could have made it make sense.
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Post by: Reacher on April 18, 2026, 01:48:23 PM
Fucking hilarious everyone is so concerned with what the papists think all of a sudden

Ok, Robb.
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 18, 2026, 03:33:23 PM
Fucking hilarious everyone is so concerned with what the papists think all of a sudden

Yep, Trump cares what he says.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 18, 2026, 04:08:51 PM
Fucking hilarious everyone is so concerned with what the papists think all of a sudden

https://youtu.be/h1cpo9Yw9A8?si=rNFx9skIHautkM3R
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 18, 2026, 04:44:01 PM
The Ukrainians really are bad and this is a war crime. It is good we don’t support them

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/18/europe/ukraine-strikes-russian-oil-refineries-us-waiver-intl?cid=ios_app
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Post by: Reacher on April 18, 2026, 05:33:00 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/G2bqgsS0/IMG-6331.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZDfpXbx)
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Post by: Reacher on April 18, 2026, 09:19:47 PM
Netanyahu needs to go. Israel’s right-wing government is becoming Israel’s undoing.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qqVvyyJn/IMG-6337.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ5QSkbT)
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Post by: Reacher on April 18, 2026, 10:19:05 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/bN8zP1mJ/IMG-6340.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jCgVQn00)
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Post by: Judge Judy on April 18, 2026, 11:07:54 PM
If that algorithm shit were true, I wouldn’t constantly see MAGA shit in my timeline.

Wait, you don’t think there’s algorithms?! Holy shit dude, get your head out of the sand. That’s the whole reason for META. You’re the product they’re selling…
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Post by: Reacher on April 19, 2026, 03:53:55 AM
Wait, you don’t think there’s algorithms?!

I never fucking said that. Of course there is, I merely pointed out that I also see a fair amount of stuff that doesn’t feed my biases. So what I’m saying is my algorithms aren’t slanted completely a single way
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Post by: Reacher on April 19, 2026, 03:55:24 AM
People here seem to think I only see a certain type of news or commentary, which is not true
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Post by: Reacher on April 19, 2026, 03:56:03 AM
My algorithms are probably not any more slanted than yours or custards
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 19, 2026, 05:52:39 AM
No, but you could have made it make sense.
It was a simple whodunnit question that Ray answered.
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 19, 2026, 06:51:53 AM
I never fucking said that. Of course there is, I merely pointed out that I also see a fair amount of stuff that doesn’t feed my biases. So what I’m saying is my algorithms aren’t slanted completely a single way

That isn't the point of the algorithms
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Post by: Reacher on April 19, 2026, 07:12:09 PM
Iranian propaganda!

https://x.com/politicsusa46/status/2045751063488168153/video/1?s=46
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 19, 2026, 07:40:57 PM
Where’s the lie?

(https://i.postimg.cc/jSN7NtYK/IMG-6355.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJ95Fds0)
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Post by: Reacher on April 19, 2026, 07:47:24 PM
Iranian propaganda!

https://x.com/i/status/2045962339325747616
Title: Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
Post by: Reacher on April 19, 2026, 07:48:41 PM
Coward.

https://x.com/i/status/2045946457518137672
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Post by: Reacher on April 20, 2026, 06:03:44 PM
The No Longer Failing New York Times.

https://x.com/politicsusa46/status/2046292988943355949/video/1?s=46
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Post by: illiniray on April 26, 2026, 07:06:57 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/G3c7hQDx/Screenshot-20260426-185601-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fqg6P41x)
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Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2026, 08:30:46 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/G3c7hQDx/Screenshot-20260426-185601-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fqg6P41x)

I'm betting this guy is from Kansas.
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Post by: murphstahoe on April 26, 2026, 08:38:42 PM
I'm betting this guy is from Kansas.

If by “Kansas” you mean Beirut, you are correct