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No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #525 on: March 31, 2026, 12:04:34 PM »
Exactly
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #526 on: March 31, 2026, 02:27:52 PM »
Axios wants you to think that social media users are causing a loss of support for democracy.

It was a Gallup survey that found the connection between heavy social media among those who do not like democracy.
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« Reply #527 on: March 31, 2026, 02:40:48 PM »
It was a Gallup survey that found the connection between heavy social media among those who do not like democracy.

Those are probably wingnuts living in their mom's basements. They argue that we are a republic, not a democracy. Since they've never read the federalist papers, they misconstrue the meaning of republic.
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« Reply #528 on: March 31, 2026, 08:35:00 PM »
First there was "Greater Israel," now there's "Greater North America." I'm sensing a theme.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #529 on: April 01, 2026, 12:40:43 AM »
A couple of things that are happening but almost certainly are not in most of your newsfeeds:

Thousands of Iranian Americans marching in DC in support of our intervention in Iran

New Harvard polling shows much better than expected support for our intervention in Iran

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« Reply #530 on: April 01, 2026, 06:02:37 AM »
A couple of things that are happening but almost certainly are not in most of your newsfeeds:

Thousands of Iranian Americans marching in DC in support of our intervention in Iran

New Harvard polling shows much better than expected support for our intervention in Iran


I saw a bit on the Iranian American march in DC, but I saw it on social media.

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« Reply #531 on: April 01, 2026, 10:08:35 AM »
A couple of things that are happening but almost certainly are not in most of your newsfeeds:

Thousands of Iranian Americans marching in DC in support of our intervention in Iran

New Harvard polling shows much better than expected support for our intervention in Iran

Like Cuba - the Iranians in America are the rich people who fled the country after their patron was taken out of power.

They talk up the Shah’s son and Americans think “see the real Iranians loved the Shah!” But these are the people who benefited from his corruption, and caused the fucking crazies to get control

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« Reply #532 on: April 01, 2026, 10:27:17 AM »
Like Cuba - the Iranians in America are the rich people who fled the country after their patron was taken out of power.

They talk up the Shah’s son and Americans think “see the real Iranians loved the Shah!” But these are the people who benefited from his corruption, and caused the fucking crazies to get control

10 years from now Bezos and Musks kids will be in Switzerland protesting for Don Jr


Exactly
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #533 on: April 01, 2026, 10:55:52 AM »
I’ve now watched the left come around to supporting Iran for a full month now. There are no solutions or suggestions, just grievances. It’s almost as bad as when Trump got them so upset about Tylenol.
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« Reply #534 on: April 01, 2026, 11:12:37 AM »
Define "supporting Iran."
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #535 on: April 01, 2026, 11:33:46 AM »
I’ve now watched the left come around to supporting Iran for a full month now. There are no solutions or suggestions, just grievances. It’s almost as bad as when Trump got them so upset about Tylenol.

The solution is - get a time machine, and don't fucking invade Iran. So - there is no solution.

At this point, we're just fucked, so we can just circle jerk around and watch it all go down the drain. But for a glorious while we created a hell of a lot of shareholder value.

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« Reply #536 on: April 01, 2026, 11:39:10 AM »
Trump and Co. are just fucking stupid.


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« Reply #537 on: April 01, 2026, 12:01:04 PM »
We had tariffs because we wanted the trade to be fairer so Europe and China would buy more of our stuff.

Now we are telling them go fuck yourself, we don't care if Hormuz is closed, which would crash their economies and they wouldn't be able to buy any of our stuff. But it would also crash our economy because we aren't commies and our oil companies would just charge more too.

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« Reply #538 on: April 01, 2026, 12:16:17 PM »
1000 Bombs Versus 1: Which Is Strategically More Effective?

the US and Israel are launching massive attacks every night and Iran can launch very few. Ipso facto the US and Israel are “winning”.

If only it were so easy. The metrics do not actually tell you what Hegseth and Caine want them to.

What we see is that Iran does not need to match the US and Israel, indeed it cannot hope to do so. All Iran needs to do is convince the world’s shipping bodies, insurance companies, and markets, that it can successfully launch one bomb—and that alone seems enough for them to fight their war for now.

And last night the Iranians launched one such bomb to put the world on notice.

In comparison to massive US and Israeli fires, Iran had one hit last night—though that one hit arguably has the same strategic effect of all the bombs dropped by the US and Israel at the same time. The Iranians sent one of their simple drones and it hit a oil tanker off the coast of Dubai.

The vessel hit was a tanker called Al Salmi, and it was fully laden with 2 million barrels of fuel for export. With oil hovering just at or over $100 a barrel, that load alone was worth approximately $200,000,000—and the ship itself was worth almost as much. Building a new supertanker, classified as a Very Large Crude Carrier (VLCC) costs about $130,000,000 these days. Buying won already built can cost even more as there is demand—some are being listed at almost $150,000,000.

So the load that the Iranians hit with that one bomb was valued somewhere close to $350,000,000. If oil prices continue to rise, it could be considerably more than this.

If the Iranians launched three successful attacks per night on VLCCs, that would be around $1 billion in ships and cargo damaged. At present, btw, there are somewhere between 200-300 tankers stuck in the Gulf (with many more that would have liked to get in and get there loads). So we are talking about a traffic worth hundreds of billions of dollars a day, trillions over weeks and months. If that traffic cannot be insured and protected, it cannot sail.

So that is the dilemma that the US faces. It does not need to simply bomb Iran. It needs to be able to stop the Iranians from threatening world shipping in the Gulf. So far, for all of its air superiority, it cannot do that. And if that dynamic does not change, Iran has a stranglehold over much of the world economy—no matter how many golden statues of victory Donald Trump builds of himself.

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #539 on: April 01, 2026, 12:16:39 PM »
It’s almost as bad as when Trump got them so upset about Tylenol.

How did that Trump fiasco work out?
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