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No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #345 on: March 11, 2026, 01:33:01 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on March 11, 2026, 01:32:24 PM
Then why was this not true when Bush(es) invaded Iraq?

TDS hadn’t been invented yet
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #346 on: March 11, 2026, 05:09:59 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:20:01 PM
Ok. If this actually needs to be explained, you need to take your own medicine and get off The Twotter if you are going to continue lecturing Judge Judy about being brainwashed by Fox News....

LOL the might makes right guy is speaking
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #347 on: March 11, 2026, 05:11:02 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 12:22:38 PM
Guess God chose them. Lucky, I guess.

Sure he did. It’s factual.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #348 on: March 11, 2026, 05:12:49 PM »
Quote from: Somewhere in Mn on March 11, 2026, 12:22:54 PM
Did he ask Colin Powell ?

He was not in attendance it seems.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #349 on: March 11, 2026, 05:14:09 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 11, 2026, 12:51:53 PM
Bingo! That had to hurt because it’s so fucking true…

How do your posts keep getting dumber?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #350 on: March 11, 2026, 05:18:11 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 11, 2026, 01:26:28 PM
These polls are self fulfilling prophecy. The mainstream media like tfNYT provides one-sided coverage and then immediately runs out and takes a poll of the people who watched that coverage. No shit?

70-75% of Americans opposed intervention in Iran, and that’s the best polling I saw for Trump. Some polls were 80 or more.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #351 on: March 11, 2026, 05:21:13 PM »
Quote from: Bibi Daddy on March 11, 2026, 05:18:11 PM
70-75% of Americans opposed intervention in Iran, and that’s the best polling I saw for Trump. Some polls were 80 or more.

And yet 80% or some ridiculous number, of Republicans approve of it apparently. Guess if you poll in NYC you get one answer, Florida another.
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #352 on: March 11, 2026, 05:40:01 PM »
https://www.natesilver.net/p/will-iran-break-maga

To level-set, the war in Iran is not popular with Americans in general. Support for the strikes and approval of Trump’s approach to Iran are underwater in nearly every poll conducted since the start of the war, and the Iran War is less popular than other foreign conflicts were at their outset.4 To put some numbers to that, we averaged every Iran poll conducted since February 27. The war is opposed by 50 percent of Americans and supported by 40 percent.5

It’s a different story for Republicans, 77 percent of whom support the war, on average.

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In large part, it’s because the Republican voters you’d expect to be most opposed to the war (at least ideologically) are actually the most supportive. Some pollsters release crosstabs for Republicans who identify with the MAGA movement. How they identify those voters varies — YouGov, for example, asks “Are you a MAGA supporter?” — so comparing these groups across different polls isn’t exactly apples to apples.

But in this case, the results are highly consistent: Republicans who identify with the MAGA movement are much more supportive of the war than Republicans in general. For example, RMG Research found that a group they call “Trump-policy voters” favored the US attack on Iran by a margin of +75, compared to just +35 among “traditional GOP voters.” Similarly, net support for using military force to overthrow the government of Iran is +68 among MAGA Republicans compared to just +11 among non-MAGA, according to YouGov.

That’s the opposite of what you’d expect ideologically, but it partially comes down to ambiguity about how voters self-identify as MAGA. Does MAGA mean voters who are extra Trumpy in a literal sense of tending to support everything that Trump does? Or do voters see the term as a stand-in for populist, anti-establishment conservatism of the sort you might associate with Carlson or Greene?

In practice, it’s probably the former. Across the board, Republican voters who identify with the MAGA movement tend to be more supportive of everything Trump does.
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #353 on: March 11, 2026, 05:46:38 PM »
Today's lesson: always trust content from ThePAXeXemwhatever instead of The Uninformed Twotterslop posted by other posters here!
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #354 on: March 11, 2026, 07:09:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 05:21:13 PM
And yet 80% or some ridiculous number, of Republicans approve of it apparently. Guess if you poll in NYC you get one answer, Florida another.

92% of Democrats oppose, 80% of independents oppose, 80% republicans support = 70% or so oppose
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #355 on: March 11, 2026, 07:12:48 PM »
In practice, it’s probably the former. Across the board, Republican voters who identify with the MAGA movement tend to be more supportive of everything Trump does.

Summary - the only self generated thought in Custards head is “Trump Good”
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #356 on: March 12, 2026, 11:58:11 AM »
Is there even a Plan B since it is obvious Plan A did not work?

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/trump-told-tankers-to-show-some-guts-then-they-were-bombed/

President Donald Trump told commercial ships waiting near the Strait of Hormuz to “show some guts.”

The comment came during a Sunday interview with Fox & Friends co-host Brian Kilmeade in which the president insisted Iran’s military had been effectively neutralized by recent U.S. strikes. Tehran, he said, no longer had the capacity to threaten maritime traffic through one of the most important oil chokepoints on the planet. There was little to fear. Tankers could move.

That framing collided almost immediately with events on the water.


Doesn't seem like it.

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #357 on: March 12, 2026, 11:58:59 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 11, 2026, 05:21:13 PM
And yet 80% or some ridiculous number, of Republicans approve of it apparently. Guess if you poll in NYC you get one answer, Florida another.

You are SUCH a DEMOCRAT!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #358 on: March 12, 2026, 12:00:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 12, 2026, 11:58:11 AM
Is there even a Plan B since it is obvious Plan A did not work?



I'm.guessing this is a rhetorical question, since they  didn't even have a coherent plan A.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #359 on: March 12, 2026, 12:02:11 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on March 11, 2026, 07:09:52 PM
92% of Democrats oppose, 80% of independents oppose, 80% republicans support = 70% or so oppose

PAMan hates it when you use nuance. He.thinks.the world is black and white.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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