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No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #465 on: March 25, 2026, 11:12:55 AM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #466 on: March 25, 2026, 11:13:56 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 25, 2026, 11:12:33 AM
Pretty sure Iran, and not Donald Trump, bombed the energy facilities.

Can’t believe everything you see published during this mess, everyone is angling to be the biggest victim in the court of public opinion right now.

There is no good reason it should take 3-5 years (but more than 3-5 more minutes) to repair something that wouldn’t even take that long to build from scratch.

Where there’s money and motivation it’s amazing how much shit can get done in a hurry. Unless you have blue state regulation, then it’s impossible.

You voted for the Trump clown show was my point.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #467 on: March 25, 2026, 11:30:29 AM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 11:13:56 AM
You voted for the Trump clown show was my point.

THeRes nO pLaN, tHEy dOnT EvEn hAVe aN ObjEcTIvE!!!

Step 1:

Decimate Iranian military and military infrastructure

Step 2:

Release set of demands to bring peace:

Tehran wants to deal with Vice President JD Vance when it comes to any talks — but White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt warned it’s Trump who will call the shots.

The demands put forward by Washington predominantly related to Iran’s nuclear capabilities, but also called for the vital Strait of Hormuz shipping lane to stay open, as reported by the Wall Street Journal.

The outlet reported 14 of 15 demands conveyed:

1. Iran must dismantle existing nuclear capabilities.
2. Iran must commit never to pursue nuclear weapons.
3. No uranium enrichment on Iranian territory.
4. Iran must hand its stockpile of enriched uranium to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
5. The Natanz, Isfahan and Fordo nuclear facilities must be dismantled.
6. The IAEA must be granted full access to Iran’s nuclear facilities.
7. Iran must abandon its “regional proxy paradigm.”
8. Iran must cease funding, directing and arming its proxies.
9. The Strait of Hormuz must remain open.
10. Iran’s missile program must be limited in both range and quantity.
11. Iran must limit its use of missiles to self-defense.

Iran would benefit from:

1. The end of sanctions imposed by the international community.
2. US assistance to advance its civilian nuclear program.
3. A “snapback” mechanism allowing for the automatic reimposition of sanctions if Iran fails to comply would be removed.


Leaviitt signaled that the US military operations against Iran will continue until Trump’s objectives are met. 



Now we know you’re not so secretly rooting for the Palestinians and Iranians just to spite Trump, however thos list of demands on top of their military being decimated would be a huge net positive not just for the region, but for the world as a whole.

They can’t withstand this forever, but they’re not just going to capitulate after showing this much ridiculous bravado. Hopefully the public gets enough balls to demand an actual meaningful regime change in the meantime. Now or never
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #468 on: March 25, 2026, 11:42:48 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 25, 2026, 11:30:29 AM
THeRes nO pLaN, tHEy dOnT EvEn hAVe aN ObjEcTIvE!!!

They can’t withstand this forever, but they’re not just going to capitulate after showing this much ridiculous bravado. Hopefully the public gets enough balls to demand an actual meaningful regime change in the meantime. Now or never

Sure they can. They don’t give a fuck. You - like Trump - did not read your Sun-Tsu, “know your enemy”

The public? The public in Iran is not a bunch of people from Kentucky. If the public in Iran writ large wanted regime change that badly they would have done so within the last 47 years. Plenty of people hate the regime but the entire country is Shiite Muslim and there are plenty of believers. And if they didn’t all hate America before a lot more sure do now.

You’re a soft fucking American. You wouldn’t last in a war zone 3 days. These are fucking Persians. They don’t give a fuck. Random shitheads in Kentucky care a lot more about an extra buck a gallon for gas than an Iranian cares about your bombs. And they will care about using  200 billion dollars to make gas more expensive.
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #469 on: March 25, 2026, 12:01:27 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on March 25, 2026, 11:42:48 AM
Sure they can. They don’t give a fuck. You - like Trump - did not read your Sun-Tsu, “know your enemy”

The public? The public in Iran is not a bunch of people from Kentucky. If the public in Iran writ large wanted regime change that badly they would have done so within the last 47 years. Plenty of people hate the regime but the entire country is Shiite Muslim and there are plenty of believers. And if they didn’t all hate America before a lot more sure do now.

You’re a soft fucking American. You wouldn’t last in a war zone 3 days. These are fucking Persians. They don’t give a fuck. Random shitheads in Kentucky care a lot more about an extra buck a gallon for gas than an Iranian cares about your bombs. And they will care about using  200 billion dollars to make gas more expensive.

Is this an argument for just blowing them all up???
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« Reply #470 on: March 25, 2026, 01:12:04 PM »
At first you had PAMan’s curiosity, but now you’ve got his ATTENTION.
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« Reply #471 on: March 25, 2026, 01:14:57 PM »
Custard, Trump literally says they’ve won the war, then says there’s much more to do in the same breath.

He also says “we don’t need anyone’s help,” then begs for help with the following sentence. Keep on pimping the idea this guy is playing 4D chess.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #472 on: March 25, 2026, 01:19:17 PM »
Custard comes from the couch hugging Hegseth cult. “We negotiate with bombs.”
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #473 on: March 25, 2026, 01:27:45 PM »
Retired Major General with thoughts on Pete Kegsbreath.

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« Reply #474 on: March 25, 2026, 02:59:04 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 01:12:04 PM
At first you had PAMan’s curiosity, but now you’ve got his ATTENTION.

Just trying to figure out what Murph thinks he's saying there.
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« Reply #475 on: March 25, 2026, 04:07:52 PM »
Murph keeps using this “they don’t give a fuck” line like it’s some kind of mic drop moment in the argument against the conflict. As if standing by and allowing people who already hate the West and Israel that don’t give a fuck to continue their nuclear ambitions with piles of oil money from China is a good idea.

China buys 80-90% of Iranian crude and they buy it at a discount because other countries have sanctioned Iran. China gets discounted oil, keeping their costs of production down, while funding this horrible fundamentalist nation.

I suppose shutting down the internet and cell phones, hanging people in the streets, and violently quelling any uprisings by killing thousands of protestors are pretty effective deterrents. Remember how mad everyone was here over Renee Good and Alex “Assault me motherfucker” Pretti? Murph and Tempo were calling for a domestic revolution over these knuckleheads who were killed in rather nuanced confrontations with law enforcement. Not a word about the folks being openly slaughtered by the Iranian leadership. Interesting, isn’t it?

I’ve come to notice that the left seems to always side with what’s good for China and bad for America these days. It’s not a concidence, it’s programming.
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« Reply #476 on: March 25, 2026, 05:34:57 PM »
It’s not our job to police the rest of the world. That’s a very expensive job that leads to collapse. “America First,” bro.
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« Reply #477 on: March 25, 2026, 05:42:07 PM »
Pretty sure you were preaching no new wars until Trump invaded Iran, and decided to topple a couple other governments. Which are acts of war.
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« Reply #478 on: March 25, 2026, 06:36:54 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on March 25, 2026, 05:42:07 PM
Pretty sure you were preaching no new wars until Trump invaded Iran, and decided to topple a couple other governments. Which are acts of war.

I was? I liked Trump’s record in foreign conflicts but also understand things change and that Biden’s asleep at the switch tenure allowed some of our enemies to strengthen themselves and form new alliances with other geopolitical enemies. And that those things might need to be addressed before the next weak Democrat president who just thinks if we say enough mean things about Putin he’ll behave, and say enough nice things to Iran and China that they’ll respect us more, gets elected.

RIP, Great Venezuelan War, we barely knew ye! Pretty sure we just captures a wanted criminal in that one, hardly an act of war.

We haven’t even invaded Iran in any conventional sense. Far as I can tell we have just bombed the shit out of Iran which isn’t much different than Obama and all his drones.
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« Reply #479 on: March 25, 2026, 06:40:08 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 25, 2026, 12:01:27 PM
Is this an argument for just blowing them all up???

It isn’t that argument even if you *could* blow every single Iranian up.

But you can’t.

Our comfortable lives are on a knives edge. It’s a lot harder to keep the machine running than to blow it up. See 9/11.
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