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Title: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 14, 2022, 02:51:43 PM
This place is practically dead. Put your Bears thoughts here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 14, 2022, 02:54:37 PM
This place is practically dead. Put your Bears thoughts here.

Just asked you about the game in the draft thread. Didn't see it yesterday. Your thoughts?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 14, 2022, 03:01:45 PM
Just asked you about the game in the draft thread. Didn't see it yesterday. Your thoughts?

I answered in that thread. I’ll also add that I think preseason wins are next to meaningless, but consider it a positive the Bears were able to pull out a comeback win. Maybe (just maybe) the back end of the roster isn’t as awful as we think it is, and a lot of chatter about how the team looked more organized and focused than under the previous regime. I’ll take whatever positives we can get at this point.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 14, 2022, 03:03:15 PM
Robinson has the potential to be a huge steal (in the 5th?).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 14, 2022, 03:05:50 PM
I answered in that thread. I’ll also add that I think preseason wins are next to meaningless, but consider it a positive the Bears were able to pull out a comeback win. Maybe (just maybe) the back end of the roster isn’t as awful as we think it is, and a lot of chatter about how the team looked more organized and focused than under the previous regime. I’ll take whatever positives we can get at this point.

Friend said there were not any stupid penalties. So that is good.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 14, 2022, 03:07:23 PM
Several rookies actually had great games. Brisker, Gill (punter), Braxton Jones, and Jack Sanborn (undrafted so not going to put a ton of stock into this one) all getting much praise.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 14, 2022, 03:07:56 PM
Friend said there were not any stupid penalties. So that is good.

I heard this morning there were no pre-snap penalties. That alone is huge progress. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on August 15, 2022, 08:12:13 AM
It's gonna be a long year.  No expectations for wins, just want to see improvement.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 15, 2022, 08:36:37 AM
It's gonna be a long year.  No expectations for wins, just want to see improvement.

Is this for Bears or Illini football?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on August 15, 2022, 02:35:17 PM
Yes
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on August 16, 2022, 12:39:14 PM
Is this for Bears or Illini football?

Exactly.

Although, I am a bit more optimistic about the Illini than the Bears. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on August 16, 2022, 03:19:50 PM
Robinson has the potential to be a huge steal (in the 5th?).

I just hope he has a valid drivers license.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 16, 2022, 07:35:37 PM
I just hope he has a valid drivers license.

Been awhile since that one was pulled out. You still have moxie.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 16, 2022, 07:36:13 PM
Exactly.

Although, I am a bit more optimistic about the Illini than the Bears.

How you wear your cup on Saturdays and select Friday nights
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 16, 2022, 08:21:32 PM
Tempo, what happened to Doug Kramer today? Bears O line is bad enough as it is....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 06, 2022, 02:59:02 PM
https://www.chicagobears.com/arlington-park/

Hilarious. Plenty of ifs, coulds, mays, maybes, possibles, etc. Weasel words galore.

I do not see how this will happen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on September 08, 2022, 12:02:43 AM
https://www.chicagobears.com/arlington-park/

Hilarious. Plenty of ifs, coulds, mays, maybes, possibles, etc. Weasel words galore.

I do not see how this will happen.

Lori Lighthead's legacy
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 08, 2022, 11:19:17 AM
Kittle out and VSIN still says the numbers are 49'er -7? O/u 40.5. Feel free to peruse the numbers for each quarter.

https://www.vsin.com/odds/nfl/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 08, 2022, 01:17:33 PM
They’re calling him day to day, he’s not been ruled out yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 08, 2022, 01:18:39 PM
Lori Lighthead's legacy

No one was going to prevent this. Too much money and too much sense for the Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 08, 2022, 01:37:09 PM
They’re calling him day to day, he’s not been ruled out yet.

That's what they want you to think.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 08, 2022, 01:38:01 PM
No one was going to prevent this. Too much money and too much sense for the Bears.

Given the begging for money in that announcement, I don't see how you can count on it happening.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 08, 2022, 06:48:11 PM
It’s gonna happen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 08, 2022, 08:57:25 PM
It’s gonna happen.

Let's play this out. The Bear is begging for money, not for the stadium per se, but for the rest of the plan.

Now, the state is run by Dems. Cook County is run by Dems. Lightfoot may not be popular, but who is going to want to give the McCaskeys money so they can move from Chicago to somewhere else in Cook County?

Don't forget that the McCaskeys are NOT the Wirtzes or Reinsdorf.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 08, 2022, 10:58:54 PM
There’s almost no way this doesn’t happen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 08, 2022, 11:47:16 PM
If there’s a wrong move you can assume the bears will make it
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 09, 2022, 07:07:17 AM
There’s almost no way this doesn’t happen.

Pritzker, Don Harmon, Chris Welch, and Toni Preckwinkle are all looking to step on Lightfoot's dick to help the McCaskeys? Got it. Tell me, politically, how this happens.

If they get private money, it happens. As of now, based on that message they sent out begging for public money, they don't have it.

Do they do the stadium without the rest? I don't know.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 09, 2022, 10:47:10 AM
I've already seen that Phillips is talking like the new stadium will be a dome.  No retractable roof, due to cost.  Which is amazing to me as the cost of a retractable roof stadium would pay for itself with all that could be done with it.  But Bears being Bears, let's go cheap and pinch pennies.

Dome is better than what they currently have, obviously, but retractable roof, nowadays, seems pretty fucking standard.  I mean, the Colts have a retractable roof for Christ's sake. 

Like Custard said earlier.  If there is a way for the Bears to fuck it up, they will.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 09, 2022, 04:08:17 PM
Can't say this interview with Ted Phillips does anything to assuage my concerns...

 https://chicago.suntimes.com/fran-spielman-show/2022/9/9/23344896/chicago-bears-president-ted-phillips-arlington-heights-soldier-field-public-subsidies

Goldman hired to do the ask of the government but no developer hired?

How long does the Bear option on Arlington Park run? Maybe they should go buy Balmoral Park and develop that.....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 10, 2022, 12:02:39 AM
FFS we’ve seen this a million times. They’re jockeying. Won’t do shit and will extort millions from the city to stay.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 10, 2022, 10:29:27 AM
FFS we’ve seen this a million times. They’re jockeying. Won’t do shit and will extort millions from the city to stay.

Probably.

New proposal: state gives the McCaskeys the $ in exchange for the NFL smoothing the move of the Jags  to a renovated, again, Soldier Field...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2022, 11:59:16 AM
They’re calling him day to day, he’s not been ruled out yet.

Always trust content from The PAMan/They/Them
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 11, 2022, 12:52:12 PM
God damn. This team is worse than I thought.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 11, 2022, 12:59:34 PM
Meanwhile, Trubisky just threw his first TD pass as a Steeler and is badly outplaying Burrow.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2022, 01:13:09 PM
Meanwhile, Trubisky just threw his first TD pass as a Steeler and is badly outplaying Burrow.

That's because Burrow keeps giving the ball to the Steeler. Mitch has completed 2 balls over the LOS, one was a flea flicker and the other one the guy one handed it after Mitch threw it way behind him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 11, 2022, 01:28:15 PM
Bears suck so bad they can't even wipe down the field without being flagged
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2022, 01:37:42 PM
Fighting Illini the most competent football team in Illinois...tallest midget!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 11, 2022, 02:02:02 PM
That was great stuff from Fields. More of that please.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 11, 2022, 02:24:04 PM
Bears lead. Fields in a nice groove.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 11, 2022, 02:37:03 PM
Eddie Jackson made a play!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2022, 02:41:25 PM
Zero place kickers can be found in the state of Illinois?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2022, 02:45:00 PM
Burrow bringing the Bengal back
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2022, 02:51:01 PM
Burrow bringing the Bengal back

Or not
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2022, 02:55:25 PM
Bear weather! Suck it, Bay Area, wine sipping, bike riding softies!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 11, 2022, 03:01:12 PM
Disastrous 2nd half for the 49ers. Way too many penalties.

Oh well. Bear down I guess.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2022, 03:04:02 PM
The field sure has held up well!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 11, 2022, 03:04:27 PM
Eberflus era starts with a W.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 11, 2022, 03:05:32 PM
Disastrous 2nd half for the 49ers. Way too many penalties.

Oh well. Bear down I guess.

It wasn't the Bears committing all those penalties for once.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2022, 03:08:36 PM
It wasn't the Bears committing all those penalties for once.

Already far more disciplined than under the Be. You. Idiot
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2022, 03:09:03 PM
Meanwhile Mitch will have to do something in OT...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 11, 2022, 03:23:07 PM
Meanwhile Mitch will have to do something in OT...

Mitch has like 50 yards passing since his hot start.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 11, 2022, 03:29:27 PM
Zero place kickers can be found in the state of Illinois?

Other states too it looks like.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 11, 2022, 11:34:31 PM
Tempo at the game today?

(https://i.ibb.co/GkzmtND/C172-E9-E2-5899-4943-A96-F-ED5-FE7-AA568-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tcVRxF6)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 11, 2022, 11:38:01 PM
Or Chuck Norris perhaps?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on September 13, 2022, 09:20:30 PM
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/305647110_816991056335252_7964290034517019873_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=drnlt47DCiMAX-mWFu_&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=00_AT9KbPhYlRhcWIHt5xxw3g-NaVgzyoBKOR11Dv2YlrQIrQ&oe=632718A7)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 13, 2022, 09:26:02 PM
That's great
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 14, 2022, 07:51:07 PM
FFS we’ve seen this a million times. They’re jockeying. Won’t do shit and will extort millions from the city to stay.

They’re leaving.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 14, 2022, 07:52:44 PM
Yeah the Bears to Arlington Heights is a done deal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 14, 2022, 07:56:21 PM
The field held up, but the drainage was non-existent. Great 2nd half and great win for the Bears. When’s the last time we could say the Bears looked like the better coached and more disciplined team? Only two penalties aside from the bizarre beach towel penalty almost know one knew existed.

Wasn’t pretty, how could it be in that weather? But a lot to hang your hat on, and I think the coaching staff got some buy-in from the players on Sunday. Don’t want to jump the gun, but if Flus can keep it looking anything remotely like this, he may have just been the right hire.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 14, 2022, 07:57:40 PM
Tempo at the game today?

(https://i.ibb.co/GkzmtND/C172-E9-E2-5899-4943-A96-F-ED5-FE7-AA568-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tcVRxF6)

I haven’t worn a watch since the 90s. Also, last I checked I didn’t have a beard. Is that a beard? Pretty blurry.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 14, 2022, 07:58:36 PM
Yeah the Bears to Arlington Heights is a done deal.

I’d be floored if it didn’t happen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 14, 2022, 10:27:05 PM
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 15, 2022, 07:06:23 AM
I’ll believe it when I see it.

I believe Tempo's car will be the one in the ditch on MiniDitka's AOTC rendition.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 15, 2022, 09:40:36 AM
I believe Tempo's car will be the one in the ditch on MiniDitka's AOTC rendition.

No clue what that means.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 15, 2022, 10:18:54 AM
No clue what that means.

How soon we forget MiniDitka's AOTC artist's rendition? RIP, MiniDitka.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 15, 2022, 05:18:02 PM
I member

It’s a piece of HQ lore
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on September 16, 2022, 09:00:38 AM
The field held up, but the drainage was non-existent. Great 2nd half and great win for the Bears. When’s the last time we could say the Bears looked like the better coached and more disciplined team? Only two penalties aside from the bizarre beach towel penalty almost know one knew existed.

Wasn’t pretty, how could it be in that weather? But a lot to hang your hat on, and I think the coaching staff got some buy-in from the players on Sunday. Don’t want to jump the gun, but if Flus can keep it looking anything remotely like this, he may have just been the right hire.

Great 2nd half, but the first half was abysmal. Good of the Niners to commit a bunch of penalties.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2022, 09:52:30 AM
I am wearing my cup Sunday night as I think DopeheadManBunAntiVaxxer Guy gets healthy versus a Bear team that won't move the ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2022, 01:07:34 PM
How soon we forget MiniDitka's AOTC artist's rendition? RIP, MiniDitka.

Wait, what?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2022, 01:30:10 PM
Wait, what?

You forget his crude drawing of the curved road and the cars, one of which was on fire in a ditch and the other was "ahead of the curve"?

Say Captain say wot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pqC563bX_w
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2022, 03:36:14 PM
You say RIP because he hasn’t posted in a while, or because he’s actually dead? I’m guessing he hasn’t posted in a while. And no, I don’t recall it. But I’ve taken lengthy absences a few times over the years.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2022, 03:37:04 PM
Actually, it vaguely rings a bell.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2022, 03:41:06 PM
You say RIP because he hasn’t posted in a while, or because he’s actually dead? I’m guessing he hasn’t posted in a while. And no, I don’t recall it. But I’ve taken lengthy absences a few times over the years.

He could not handle being wrong about the Mack Trade and went AWOL.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2022, 04:31:32 PM
I haven’t sipped a whole lot of Bears Kool-Aid the last 15 years or so, but I think the Bears have a shot at pulling off a big upset Sunday night. I’m going 24-20 Bears. Fields has career night.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2022, 06:00:06 PM
I haven’t sipped a whole lot of Bears Kool-Aid the last 15 years or so, but I think the Bears have a shot at pulling off a big upset Sunday night. I’m going 24-20 Bears. Fields has career night.

Woah! Going out on a limb there!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 17, 2022, 09:59:35 AM
Not even sure it would be that big of an upset at this point
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 17, 2022, 12:22:32 PM
Bears will probably lose, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they win.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2022, 12:27:27 PM
Bears will probably lose, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they win.

Always an HQ Classic
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2022, 12:55:53 PM
Always an HQ Classic

The lowest of hanging fruits.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2022, 12:58:50 PM
Not even sure it would be that big of an upset at this point

I mostly agree. I think GB will be the better team this year, but they are very “gettable” right now. Not only are they a mess at WR, but I believe they are missing 3 OL starters. I really think the Bears got some good mojo after their win (not expecting it to result in a playoff run or anything), but I’m going to take the rare opportunity to sip some Bears Kool-Aid.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2022, 05:32:25 PM
The lowest of hanging fruits.

Isn't that what we are all about?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 17, 2022, 06:12:57 PM
Isn't that what we are all about?

Yes
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 07:49:14 PM
Nice response by the Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:10:49 PM
Bearce…we may not win, but so wonderful to have the Nagy and Pace stank off this team.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on September 18, 2022, 08:15:27 PM
Justin Fields is a clown show.  Full 2 yards beyond the LOS and he decides to throw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:15:38 PM
Ugh, c’mon Justin. That wasn’t close.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 08:16:08 PM
Can't do that, Justin. That was like 3 yards past the LOS.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on September 18, 2022, 08:24:35 PM
2nd and 28.  No problem for the Packers
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 08:25:13 PM
Missing tackles left and right.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:28:38 PM
Ok, Getsy’s gotta start opening the playbook a bit. A game and a half into the season and Mooney and Kmet have what, 2 combined catches? I realize the first game was extraordinary conductions, but our defense isn’t good enough to play ultra-conservative offense against Aaron Rodgers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 08:29:34 PM
I am wearing my cup Sunday night as I think DopeheadManBunAntiVaxxer Guy gets healthy versus a Bear team that won't move the ball.

Looking to be well ahead of the curve here. Shocking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:29:53 PM
C’mon, Cole.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 08:30:30 PM
Eberfuck sucks ass too.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 08:30:54 PM
C’mon, Cole.

ND guy sucks. Shocking
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:31:43 PM
We need a turnover. Almost got one there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2022, 08:32:18 PM
Kmet sucks. He drops everything.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:35:53 PM
I drafted the guy in one of my fantasy leagues and looks like I’ll be getting back to back goose eggs from him. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:38:23 PM
I’d like to see Roquan force a turnover. What do you think, Roquan?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:40:57 PM
Nice 1st quarter. Absolutely abysmal 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 08:43:22 PM
I drafted the guy in one of my fantasy leagues and looks like I’ll be getting back to back goose eggs from him. Lol

What the hell were you thinking?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:43:30 PM
I’m starting to buy into the idea Roquan isn’t that important to our future. A tackling machine, but not a disrupter. A good, not truly great player.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:44:54 PM
Jesus, you’re getting waxed. Take a shot downfield.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:45:26 PM
Absolutely atrocious 2nd quarter. By everyone.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 08:47:27 PM
I’m starting to buy into the idea Roquan isn’t that important to our future. A tackling machine, but not a disrupter. A good, not truly great player.

Doesn't play an impact LB position. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:49:31 PM
Welp, watched 4-5 teams blow what looked to be insurmountable leads earlier today. Hopefully the trend continues.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 08:50:31 PM
Doesn't play an impact LB position.

Can’t force a fumble now and then?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:01:28 PM
Roll him the fuck out. He gets sacked and pressured every time he drops back.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 09:02:52 PM
Roll him the fuck out. He gets sacked and pressured every time he drops back.

No shit.  Why aren't they doing this?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:04:19 PM
Think Ryan and Matt fooled us with plastic surgery?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:06:21 PM
Way to run him out of bounds 36 yards later, Roquan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 09:06:55 PM
Maybe the Packer is better than the Trey Lance 49er
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2022, 09:07:07 PM
Fucking tackling is horrendous!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:07:27 PM
Ok, I’m getting behind the idea of a blowout. Fuck the Lovie Smith play it close ball and let’s see if we have any playmakers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2022, 09:12:20 PM
This is supposed to be a lost/rebuilding season anyways, so fucking air it out and see what you’ve got for next year and the future.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:14:04 PM
I get that the run game worked the last few plays, but it’s not a law you have to run on 1st.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:15:47 PM
This is supposed to be a lost/rebuilding season anyways, so fucking air it out and see what you’ve got for next year and the future.

Agreed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:16:27 PM
So apparently one thing hasn’t changed. The Bears love the shotgun.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 09:17:00 PM
Agreed.

It isn't college football. This is more of the same crap.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:20:30 PM
Bears looking a little more lively. Still need several big plays to have a chance, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 09:21:30 PM
Is Mooney hurt or something? Two targets in two games.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:24:33 PM
Damn, that would have been huge.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:25:35 PM
Not that it mattered, but how the hell did the refs not see the LT jump early.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:29:42 PM
Sidetracking a bit, but I have a feeling Velus Jones will be a wasted pick.

Has Herbert even had a carry?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 09:30:39 PM
Is Mooney hurt or something? Two targets in two games.

There he is
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:30:47 PM
Monty having a game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 09:32:23 PM
Monty having a game.

You ain't kidding.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:33:08 PM
On second thought, if we’re going to average 25 YPC keep running lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 09:34:26 PM
Is Mooney hurt or something? Two targets in two games.

Robinson not around to be the focus of the DBs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:34:43 PM
TD to Kmet would help me in multiple ways
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:35:57 PM
Robinson not around to be the focus of the DBs.

BS. Throw it to him. Scheme him open. It’s not been a priority
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 09:36:47 PM
Looked like a first to me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 09:37:39 PM
BS. Throw it to him. Scheme him open. It’s not been a priority

Maybe he's not open because he is not as good when the other teams focus on him as he is the only WR threat.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:38:35 PM
Maybe he's not open because he is not as good when the other teams focus on him as he is the only WR threat.

I think it has more to do with the fact the Bears aren’t throwing much, and not prioritizing big chunk plays in the passing game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:39:16 PM
How many times have the Bears thrown more than 10 yards? 3, 4?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:40:25 PM
See, 1st and GOAL and they run it twice.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:41:40 PM
From the 10 I might add.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:42:55 PM
What in the ever living fuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 09:43:51 PM
What the fuck is this franchise's obsession with running shotgun?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:44:06 PM
Nagyesque.

Ok, now I’m convinced Ryan and Matt only had plastic surgery and are still here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 09:45:22 PM
Quarterback sneak from the shotgun is a new one to me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 09:48:48 PM
More smartest man in the room bullshit. Regime after fucking regime.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 09:52:16 PM
I think it has more to do with the fact the Bears aren’t throwing much, and not prioritizing big chunk plays in the passing game.

I can't say I've seen video of him wide open and not getting the ball.

Maybe he's got to improve now that he is a WR1? Maybe the offense is now worse? Hard to tell after 1 and 3/4 games
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 09:54:19 PM
AOTC on this game. Bear sucks. Eberfuck sucks. Would have lost last week with Jim G in the game. Same shit, different day.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2022, 09:54:49 PM
Well that ended any hope the Bears had. Big stop on 4th and goal. Stupid fucking sneak from the shotgun, what the fuck?! Then a bomb by Rodgers to a wide open Watkins.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2022, 09:59:13 PM
7/9 for 70 yards passing for Fields. How the fuck are you supposed to evaluate him on that?! This is the same shit the previous staff did with Trubisky. Fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 10:00:23 PM
You have to see what Fields is as a passer. Can't hide him forever.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2022, 10:02:28 PM
So why in the fuck don’t they let him throw the ball?! 😡 we should not be running the ball on this next drive down 17.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 10:04:30 PM
Welp, that was fun…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 10:05:23 PM
So why in the fuck don’t they let him throw the ball?! 😡 we should not be running the ball on this next drive down 17.

Good news is they threw it. Bad news, well, you saw it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 10:06:37 PM
You have to see what Fields is as a passer. Can't hide him forever.

Mitch Fields or Justin Trubisky? Which do you prefer?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2022, 10:09:23 PM
Mitch Fields or Justin Trubisky? Which do you prefer?

Yeah not looking good. At least Trubisky had a better team around him and some weapons. Not sure what to think of Fields because it’s like they set him up to fail with the lack of pieces around him. Still he’s made some dumb decisions and shitty throws.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 10:13:32 PM
Not that I ever believed for a second that the Bears had any shot whatsoever of winning this thing before it started.

But I'm seeing 'meet the new regime, same as the old one.' You aren't winning shit in today's NFL when your QB only attempts 11 passes for 70 yards. Newsflash you fucks: this ain't the 1930s anymore.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2022, 10:15:38 PM
Agreed. You have to have a quarterback that can complete passes and in high numbers. Running the ball in the NFL has become the big Center in basketball. Just almost nonexistent.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 10:17:47 PM
Fields is obviously far from a finished product, but the Bears have the worst receiving corps in the NFL and it’s probably not close. No separation.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 10:20:40 PM
Where the hell are Hamp and O.B.?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2022, 10:24:20 PM
Eberfuck = Tony LaRussa is a match
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 10:29:36 PM
How the hell are you supposed to establish any rhythm only throwing it 11 times. SMH
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2022, 10:32:53 PM
Why even fire Nagy if you're just gonna run a Nagyesque offense anyway?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 18, 2022, 10:38:52 PM
The Bears franchise doesn’t deserve 10% of the fan loyalty it possesses.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 10:51:08 PM
It just dawned on me, and I’m not sure this is a stretch. I bet there are college programs with better receiving corps than the Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2022, 10:52:30 PM
Why even fire Nagy if you're just gonna run a Nagyesque offense anyway?

It’s actually the inverse. Run, run, run it! Even when down 2 TDs on the road to Aaron Rodgers! Then *sneak* it from the shotgun.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on September 19, 2022, 12:13:57 AM
Oops I missed the game


Ok I didn't really miss anything it sounds like
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 19, 2022, 07:20:05 AM
It’s actually the inverse. Run, run, run it! Even when down 2 TDs on the road to Aaron Rodgers! Then *sneak* it from the shotgun.

The running was not the problem. The Packer ran the ball at will. The problem was the inability to throw the ball off the run (play action, etc.). Packer had no issue, as usual, throwing the ball off the run.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on September 19, 2022, 08:22:40 AM
It's not the Xs and the Os, it's the Jimmys and the Joes.
The Zooker

Rodgers throws to whoever he wants.
Bears receivers can't get separation.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 19, 2022, 10:01:41 AM
It's not the Xs and the Os, it's the Jimmys and the Joes.
The Zooker

Rodgers throws to whoever he wants.
Bears receivers can't get separation.

ManBunAntiVaxxer Guy was bitching about his shitty receivers over the past month, as usual. Bear made them look like All-Pros.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on September 19, 2022, 12:06:26 PM
ManBunAntiVaxxer Guy was bitching about his shitty receivers over the past month, as usual. Bear made them look like All-Pros.
Jimmy, the All Pro qb, letting the wr Joes and the other Joes know how to play the game of football.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 19, 2022, 01:37:03 PM
ManBunAntiVaxxer Guy was bitching about his shitty receivers over the past month, as usual. Bear made them look like All-Pros.

They picked on Gordon and Vildor and didn’t even bother targeting Jaylon Johnson.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2022, 07:05:45 AM
The running was not the problem. The Packer ran the ball at will. The problem was the inability to throw the ball off the run (play action, etc.). Packer had no issue, as usual, throwing the ball off the run.

Despite being down two touchdowns on the road to Aaron Rodgers since the 2nd quarter, they only threw the ball 9 times (when it mattered). That’s not gonna get it done.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2022, 07:08:00 AM
Obviously, the rain game is part of it, but the Bears have 28 pass attempts in two games. Every other team in the league has at least 28 completions.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 21, 2022, 07:29:56 AM
Obviously, the rain game is part of it, but the Bears have 28 pass attempts in two games. Every other team in the league has at least 28 completions.

It is as if they know Mitch Fields isn't any good.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 21, 2022, 07:56:26 AM
I'm definitely allowing for the possibility that Fields isn't any good.  I want to see his numbers after 30 starts.  That usually tells you what kind of qb you have.

Sure, the Nagy thing was a joke, but this is 2 coaching staffs now that don't seem to trust him.  Red flag city.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 21, 2022, 08:25:41 AM
I found this part of the article to be very interesting…

“There’s a question of why Fields looked hesitant to make throws in Green Bay. Could it be the pressure he’s facing? The quarterback has the highest pressure percentage in the NFL at 56%. But he’s also had the longest average time before passing in the NFL at 3.26 seconds.

And it's not a question of the Bears' receivers getting open. The average separation on Fields’ targets is 3.93 yards, the fourth-highest rate in the NFL according to Next Gen Stats.

But Fields’ accuracy comes into question as his off-target percentage is just under 30%, which is the second-highest in the NFL.”

Here’s the whole article…

https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4711500/chicago-bears-passing-game-is-off-to-rocky-start-as-justin-fields-and-top-weapons-have-yet-to-click
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 21, 2022, 11:52:52 AM
I typed a message along the lines of “Is anyone ready to discuss the idea that Justin Fields probably sucks?” the other day and then decided not to post it. Glad someone else took the lead.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 21, 2022, 11:59:46 AM
Yeah, I’m wavering on the belief that he’s a franchise QB. Just not sure at this point and you almost have to take a OC or HC word based on them seeing the player everyday. Especially when it’s two different staffs. Our OC had Rodgers as a QB for Christ sake, so I’m sure he knows who/what a good QB is you’d think…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on September 21, 2022, 01:03:52 PM
I found this part of the article to be very interesting…

“There’s a question of why Fields looked hesitant to make throws in Green Bay. Could it be the pressure he’s facing? The quarterback has the highest pressure percentage in the NFL at 56%. But he’s also had the longest average time before passing in the NFL at 3.26 seconds.

And it's not a question of the Bears' receivers getting open. The average separation on Fields’ targets is 3.93 yards, the fourth-highest rate in the NFL according to Next Gen Stats.

But Fields’ accuracy comes into question as his off-target percentage is just under 30%, which is the second-highest in the NFL.”

Here’s the whole article…

https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4711500/chicago-bears-passing-game-is-off-to-rocky-start-as-justin-fields-and-top-weapons-have-yet-to-click

Not defending Fields, as I was wary of him before the season started. But two games in, against two 2021 playoff teams and with one game after a full rainstorm, is probably not the time to roll with a bunch of stat-based conclusions. Particularly the one about target separation, as that seems to be a positive. Do we want him throwing to people who haven't achieved separation? Admittedly the accuracy rate is far too low. And his inability to spot open receivers is a bad sign. But I'm not ready to stretch two games of stats over a 17-game season.

Also, note to ESPN: The game against Baltimore last year was in Chicago. And in referencing that, I noticed the goofy "win probability" thing that had the Bears at almost a 100 percent win probability when the Ravens had the ball and 1:41 on the clock. Sorry, but no one is dead in the water down by 4 with 1:41 on the clock. It looks idiotic to have a win probability chart that is almost 100 percent for one team and then shoots up to 100 percent for the other team almost no time later.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 21, 2022, 01:36:00 PM
Not defending Fields, as I was wary of him before the season started. But two games in, against two 2021 playoff teams and with one game after a full rainstorm, is probably not the time to roll with a bunch of stat-based conclusions. Particularly the one about target separation, as that seems to be a positive. Do we want him throwing to people who haven't achieved separation? Admittedly the accuracy rate is far too low. And his inability to spot open receivers is a bad sign. But I'm not ready to stretch two games of stats over a 17-game season.

Also, note to ESPN: The game against Baltimore last year was in Chicago. And in referencing that, I noticed the goofy "win probability" thing that had the Bears at almost a 100 percent win probability when the Ravens had the ball and 1:41 on the clock. Sorry, but no one is dead in the water down by 4 with 1:41 on the clock. It looks idiotic to have a win probability chart that is almost 100 percent for one team and then shoots up to 100 percent for the other team almost no time later.

You can't be Ahead Of The Curve if you cannot make snap assessments.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 21, 2022, 03:02:31 PM
Not defending Fields, as I was wary of him before the season started. But two games in, against two 2021 playoff teams and with one game after a full rainstorm, is probably not the time to roll with a bunch of stat-based conclusions. Particularly the one about target separation, as that seems to be a positive. Do we want him throwing to people who haven't achieved separation? Admittedly the accuracy rate is far too low. And his inability to spot open receivers is a bad sign. But I'm not ready to stretch two games of stats over a 17-game season.

Also, note to ESPN: The game against Baltimore last year was in Chicago. And in referencing that, I noticed the goofy "win probability" thing that had the Bears at almost a 100 percent win probability when the Ravens had the ball and 1:41 on the clock. Sorry, but no one is dead in the water down by 4 with 1:41 on the clock. It looks idiotic to have a win probability chart that is almost 100 percent for one team and then shoots up to 100 percent for the other team almost no time later.

ESPN does not care.  It's obvious. 

Pro tip: Pay zero attention to ESPN, other than to watch a game.  It's pretty much a joke.

30 games started.  That will tell you what you need to know.  Regardless of how shitty the team is. 

Did you see any of Mitch this past Sunday? Same old shit.  He is what he is.  A dipshit that doesn't seem to know that you can throw the ball away if you're outside the pocket.

With that being said, over the last 2 weeks, Fields looks like he has a ways to go before he's as good as Mitch.  And that is not a good thing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on September 22, 2022, 02:12:35 PM
I don't give ESPN much credibility. However, too many people buy into these made-up stats and think they prove something. Again, not blasting on the person who posted the link or the idea that Fields is well below standards. In the spring, I said I was wary of Fields' lack of development last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 22, 2022, 04:40:20 PM
My main issue with Fields is that he holds the ball too long like he thinks he’s still at Ohio St. facing a defense from Directional Bumfuck University. Now a lot of that is on the coaches for trying to make him something he’s not. Get him out of the pocket with rollouts, boot legs, play action, whatever. Let him do what he does best.

Receivers aren’t getting open? Scheme them open. Run pick plays. Everyone in the league does it except the Bears. This goddamn franchise is BTC on everything.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 24, 2022, 04:41:48 PM
I'm definitely allowing for the possibility that Fields isn't any good.  I want to see his numbers after 30 starts.  That usually tells you what kind of qb you have.

Sure, the Nagy thing was a joke, but this is 2 coaching staffs now that don't seem to trust him.  Red flag city.

I agree with the 30 starts. 30-36 is a good number. People expect too much from players who’ve started only 10-12 games. Been watching football for 40 years and I bet I can name maybe 6-7 QBs who were obvious superstars after 12 starts. Sure, many had the “talent,” but few played at a high level that early.

It’s possible that Fields isn’t the one they “don’t trust.” Maybe they don’t trust what might be the worst pass blocking line in the league, which is also tied to hands down the worst receiving corps in the league? I’d be willing to bet Ohio State, LSU, and Alabama have had better receiving corps the last few years than the Bears do now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 24, 2022, 04:51:04 PM
I found this part of the article to be very interesting…

“There’s a question of why Fields looked hesitant to make throws in Green Bay. Could it be the pressure he’s facing? The quarterback has the highest pressure percentage in the NFL at 56%. But he’s also had the longest average time before passing in the NFL at 3.26 seconds.

And it's not a question of the Bears' receivers getting open. The average separation on Fields’ targets is 3.93 yards, the fourth-highest rate in the NFL according to Next Gen Stats.

But Fields’ accuracy comes into question as his off-target percentage is just under 30%, which is the second-highest in the NFL.”

Here’s the whole article…

https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4711500/chicago-bears-passing-game-is-off-to-rocky-start-as-justin-fields-and-top-weapons-have-yet-to-click

I think it adds length to his drop backs when he’s being immediately pressured and has to scramble. The “seconds per drop back stat” should only include a clean pocket.

The numbers are what they are I guess, but I find it really difficult to believe the Bears’ receivers are 4th in the league in separation. Of course, they’ve barely thrown it as well. I’ll bet Pettis’ TD alone skews that number. He was all alone on that side of the field.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 24, 2022, 05:02:44 PM
I’d be willing to bet Ohio State, LSU, and Alabama have had better receiving corps the last few years than the Bears do now.

AntiVaxxerManBun Guy says "Hello!"
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 24, 2022, 05:18:32 PM
AntiVaxxerManBun Guy says "Hello!"

You lost me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 24, 2022, 06:32:26 PM
You lost me.

The Packer receivers suck, yet it does not seem to matter when the QB is actually good.

I heard this point discussed by Lombardi on his podcast. Tough to assess WRs, as the QB is the one who makes or breaks them.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 24, 2022, 07:48:25 PM
The Packer receivers suck, yet it does not seem to matter when the QB is actually good.

I heard this point discussed by Lombardi on his podcast. Tough to assess WRs, as the QB is the one who makes or breaks them.

Rodgers has more years in the league than Fields has starts. Not sure the comparison is fair.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 24, 2022, 07:50:27 PM
Throwing guys open at the NFL level isn’t something that comes to most QBs early in their careers. If ever.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 24, 2022, 08:12:21 PM
Rodgers has more years in the league than Fields has starts. Not sure the comparison is fair.

The point is the quality of the WRs should not matter if you are a good QB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 12:05:38 PM
First snap under center, fumble. Probably why shotgun is mainly the option.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 12:10:13 PM
Also Fields scrambling for a 1st down isn’t a recipe for sustained success. He’s had a clean pocket so far, throw the fucking ball!!

Hand-off draw on 3rd down. Dumb as fuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:10:41 PM
Not impressed by Getsy’s play-calling. This drive was an over-correction of last week. Gotta give Justin a handoff play after the big run. I like that they were passing, but often passed on running downs and ran on passing downs IMO.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:11:45 PM
The point is the quality of the WRs should not matter if you are a good QB.

Again, the list of truly difference making QBs in the NFL after 12 starts is an extremely short list.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:12:20 PM
Oline is doing their job. Fields hold the ball too long. You can almost hear him thinking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 12:13:50 PM
Oline is doing their job. Fields hold the ball too long. You can almost hear him thinking.

This.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:14:11 PM
They have to establish the run, and throw off of that. But Fields has to make throws when they’re available.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:16:40 PM
A good friend of mine put it well, I think. It feels like every start for Fields is his first start. He should be farther along by now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:20:19 PM
A good friend of mine put it well, I think. It feels like every start for Fields is his first start. He should be farther along by now.

Yeah, doubtful. He’s literally had everything working against him since day 1.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:20:47 PM
Again, the list of truly difference making QBs in the NFL after 12 starts is an extremely short list.

What throws has he made where you thought it was a great throw?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:21:14 PM
Uh, oh. Monty down. Doesn’t look good.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:21:58 PM
What throws has he made where you thought it was a great throw?

You apparently didn’t see any next gen stats from last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:23:38 PM
Yeah, doubtful. He’s literally had everything working against him since day 1.

Game experience counts for something.

Did you praise him when he was drafted or something? You have been very "Sparkian" on this topic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:23:43 PM
https://twitter.com/jf_1bearssox/status/1495468591503876098?s=46&t=VfHEFXP6GfrFasquhJQEuQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:24:25 PM
Yeah, doubtful. He’s literally had everything working against him since day 1.

Well, just because he was brought into a less than ideal situation doesn’t excuse his lack of field awareness. It doesn’t excuse him passing when he’s 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.

I want the dude to succeed. It would be best for the bears. I’m just not seeing it right now. After this year, we should know. And, after that many starts, shitty coaches can not be an excuse. You can either play or you can’t.

Look at Mitch. Same old shit, different team.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:24:45 PM
You apparently didn’t see any next gen stats from last year.

Ok. What did they say? Because the eye test (blast from the past!) tells me he doesn't have a feel for the pocket.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 12:25:18 PM
Uh, oh. Monty down. Doesn’t look good.

I’m interested in seeing Herbert more anyways. Never been a big fan of Montgomery. Overrated. Very limited skill set and I guess somebody has to run the ball. He’s just a guy, in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:25:27 PM
Thought about putting Herbert into a DFS stack or two. Wish I had.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:26:45 PM
https://twitter.com/jf_1bearssox/status/1495468591503876098?s=46&t=VfHEFXP6GfrFasquhJQEuQ

This throw that throw vs. turnover worthy throws. What the hell does that metric even mean in real life?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 12:27:05 PM
Oh look… what’d I say about Herbert 🤔

He’s the better, more versatile player.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:27:26 PM
Ok. What did they say? Because the eye test (blast from the past!) tells me he doesn't have a feel for the pocket.

Again, name me a list of polished NFL star quality quarterbacks after 12 starts. Should be a fantastic list. He’s hit a league high 42% on drop backs. I’m not saying he’s been great, but it’s not all on him I can assure you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:27:32 PM
Holy shit Darnell Mooney sighting. 3 yard catch.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:28:16 PM
This throw that throw vs. turnover worthy throws. What the hell does that metric even mean in real life?

It means you’re being an impatient whiney bitch trying to project Tribuskyness on to him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:28:30 PM
Wow. Herbert. Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:28:40 PM
Well, just because he was brought into a less than ideal situation doesn’t excuse his lack of field awareness. It doesn’t excuse him passing when he’s 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.

I want the dude to succeed. It would be best for the bears. I’m just not seeing it right now. After this year, we should know. And, after that many starts, shitty coaches can not be an excuse. You can either play or you can’t.

Look at Mitch. Same old shit, different team.

Exactamundo.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:29:56 PM
It means you’re being an impatient whiney bitch trying to project Tribuskyness on to him.

No. What does that metric you shot out there actually mean? Seems like a shit metric.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:30:05 PM
Again, name me a list of polished NFL star quality quarterbacks after 12 starts. Should be a fantastic list. He’s hit a league high 42% on drop backs. I’m not saying he’s been great, but it’s not all on him I can assure you.

I agree it’s not all on him. But he has to get better. I hope he does.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:30:32 PM
Josh Allen just fumbled deep in his own territory. Terrible feel for the pocket. #joshallensucks
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:31:18 PM
I agree it’s not all on him. But he has to get better. I hope he does.

Agreed. But it’s gonna take a bit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:31:36 PM
Again, name me a list of polished NFL star quality quarterbacks after 12 starts. Should be a fantastic list. He’s hit a league high 42% on drop backs. I’m not saying he’s been great, but it’s not all on him I can assure you.

The fact that he holds onto the ball longer than most QBs I'm sure has zero to do with that stat.

For example:

https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/is-justin-fields-too-slow-to-the-draw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:32:30 PM
Josh Allen just fumbled deep in his own territory. Terrible feel for the pocket. #joshallensucks

He is the real deal. Herbert too. Meanwhile we got Mitch Fields.....yay!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:32:44 PM
Josh Allen just fumbled deep in his own territory. Terrible feel for the pocket. #joshallensucks

Yep. I just remembered why I hate you. What a ridiculous post. I’m out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:33:17 PM
Tempo, gave you a real stat instead of some bullshit stat from some Twitter dork.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:33:20 PM
The fact that he holds onto the ball longer than most QBs I'm sure has zero to do with that stat.

For example:

https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/is-justin-fields-too-slow-to-the-draw

News alert. Virtually every young QB does. I’d rather he hold it too long than be captain dumpoff and show no play making ability.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:34:04 PM
Yep. I just remembered why I hate you. What a ridiculous post. I’m out.

You can't go. That post just means I got him on the run. Like Mitch Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:35:33 PM
News alert. Virtually every young QB does. I’d rather he hold it too long than be captain dumpoff and show no play making ability.

Yet Herbert and Allen seem to have figured things out faster than our guy....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:36:45 PM
You can't go. That post just means I got him on the run. Like Mitch Fields.

Nope. I’m not wasting my time. It’s fucking stupid. Im just gonna watch the game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:37:11 PM
Yet Herbert and Allen seem to have figured things out faster than our guy....

Mahomes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:38:50 PM
Mahomes.

Mac Jones has played better than Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:39:22 PM
Yep. I just remembered why I hate you. What a ridiculous post. I’m out.

You are such a puss.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:39:36 PM
Mac Jones has played better than Fields.

Burrows definitely and his line really sucked last year and this year too
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:40:45 PM
Mac Jones has played better than Fields.

Mac Jones was the most NFL ready QB in 5-10 years, but he doesn’t have Fields’ upside. He also has a great coach. Not Matt Nagy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:41:17 PM
Burrows definitely and his line really sucked last year and this year too

Half the damned QBs in the league are younger types who progressed faster than Fields has. Murray, Jackson.

Nice INT Justin Trubisky staring down the receiver
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:42:45 PM
Mac Jones was the most NFL ready QB in 5-10 years, but he doesn’t have Fields’ upside. He also has a great coach. Not Matt Nagy.

Not sure about that. He seems to be a game manager type to me. But I am not a self proclaimed QB expert like Royko claimed he was.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:43:08 PM
Mahomes.

Josh Allen is in year 4 or 5. He sucked his first two years. Mahomes sat for a year and had Reid, Kelce, and Hill. So your list is up to like two.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:43:37 PM
Half the damned QBs in the league are younger types who progressed faster than Fields has. Murray, Jackson.

Nice INT Justin Trubisky staring down the receiver

That pick was Nagy’s fault.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:44:03 PM
Half the damned QBs in the league are younger types who progressed faster than Fields has. Murray, Jackson.

Nice INT Justin Trubisky staring down the receiver

Jalen Hurts looking like he has figured it out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 12:44:24 PM
Kmet actually got open for once and Fields makes a trash throw.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:44:50 PM
Whomever is QBing the Texan team is zipping the ball in there
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:44:53 PM
That ball was trapped, but a terrible pass by Fields.

PAMan would have benched Brett Favre after 10 starts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:45:10 PM
Kmet actually got open for once and Fields makes a trash throw.

Not his fault. Blame the coach!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:45:56 PM
Was Eddie really going to try to run that back?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:46:33 PM
Great “zip” there by Mills. He sucks. Everyone not clearly great by start 13 sucks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 12:47:47 PM
Vildor is a terrible corner.

Figures as I was typing this, he tips it so it can get intercepted. 😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:49:25 PM
I was wrong about Eddie Jackson. I thought he was done. He’s really made a nice comeback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:49:35 PM
Great “zip” there by Mills. He sucks. Everyone not clearly great by start 13 sucks.

Was a bad throw. Also he's not a 1st round pick, but a 3rd rounder.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:50:16 PM
Jalen Hurts looking like he has figured it out.

I wanted the Bears to draft him but they took Coke Kmet. SMH. Having said that, he’s got the best Oline in the league and excellent weapons. He was worth a shot in round 2, though. That athletic ability and that college pedigree aren’t available in the 2nd round often.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:51:01 PM
Was a bad throw. Also he's not a 1st round pick, but a 3rd rounder.

Yeah but he was really zipping it in there wasn’t he?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 12:54:07 PM
Throw the fucking ball Fields!!! He takes WAY too long going through progressions.

Except when he does it’s an INT. Maybe Getsy knows this as well…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:55:19 PM
Yeah but he was really zipping it in there wasn’t he?

Yes, he had some zip on it. Still a bad decision by a third round pick.

Hasn't he started as many games as Fields? His numbers are better than Fields'.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 12:55:24 PM
3/7 for 21 yards and an INT.

What the fuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:56:20 PM
My best DraftKings lineup so far has David Montgomery in it. SMH
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:57:12 PM
Jesus Christ, you guys are impatient. It’s as if you expect him to improve play by play in chronological order.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 12:57:18 PM
Yes, he had some zip on it. Still a bad decision by a third round pick.

Hasn't he started as many games as Fields? His numbers are better than Fields'.

This is his 14th start
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:58:19 PM
Jesus Christ, you guys are impatient. It’s as if you expect him to improve play by play in chronological order.

You did not give Mitch this kind of honeymoon period.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 12:59:19 PM
I’ll allow for growth. But the lack of field awareness is disturbing. He makes pop warner level mistakes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 12:59:31 PM
So numbers are all that matters now, huh? I remember when Mitchell Trubiksy’s numbers were on par with Patrick Mahomes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:01:58 PM
Jesus Christ, you guys are impatient. It’s as if you expect him to improve play by play in chronological order.

Just like to see more poise and improvement out of a 1st round draft pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:02:29 PM
I’ll allow for growth. But the lack of field awareness is disturbing. He makes pop warner level mistakes.

They said the same thing about Favre, Bradshaw, and Josh Allen. He’s not gonna get great overnight, especially with what he has around him, and still learning a new system. Again, he needs to play better, but he literally has the worst of everything that he’s working with. His LT is a 5th round non-power 5 rookie.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:02:51 PM
So numbers are all that matters now, huh? I remember when Mitchell Trubiksy’s numbers were on par with Patrick Mahomes.

That was Spark. Mitch never passed the eye test either.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:04:09 PM
Can’t remember the guys’ name, but also heard some amazing analysis that Getsy is not simplifying the concepts enough for Fields. He’s calling games for Aaron Rodgers (kind of like Nagy called games as if he had Mahomes).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:04:34 PM
Running the ball because the coaches know the issues they have at QB?

Only Tempo doesn't know!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:04:51 PM
That was Spark. Mitch never passed the eye test either.

The point is…”stats.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:05:42 PM
Running the ball because the coaches know the issues they have at QB?

Only Tempo doesn't know!

Again, bottom 3 line, worst receiving corps in the league…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 01:05:49 PM
Three straight downs they run the ball. On a 3rd and 6 as well 😂 what the fuck
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:06:01 PM
How about that run defense…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:06:12 PM
Basically this game is going to come down to which of these bad QBs makes the bigger mistake.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:07:14 PM
The point is…”stats.”

Yes, I got the point. You were the one who threw out "stats" to support Mitch Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:07:56 PM
Again, bottom 3 line, worst receiving corps in the league…

And Burrow still led his team to the SuperBowl....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 01:08:35 PM
Three straight downs they run the ball. On a 3rd and 6 as well 😂 what the fuck

Tempo, you don’t think this is concerning?! You think you know more than Getsy?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:09:28 PM
This is good. I like that the Bears will be forced to call a competitive game. Let’s see if Getsy, Fields, and the offense are up to the task. And yes, it’s on all of them. Everyone is pointing the finger at Fields, but I’ve yet to see anything from anyone but maybe Monty and Herbert. And that includes shotgun from the 2 inch line Luke.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:09:47 PM
Bear never should have fired Lovie. Added benefit to that would be he never would have been the Illini head coach.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:11:20 PM
Tempo, you don’t think this is concerning?! You think you know more than Getsy?!

No, I don’t. But I’m smart enough to know this isn’t all on Fields, and very few QBs in history have looked NFL ready from the word go. Especially ones on terrible teams. It’s derailed entire careers. Look at Archie Manning.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:11:48 PM
This is good. I like that the Bears will be forced to call a competitive game. Let’s see if Getsy, Fields, and the offense are up to the task. And yes, it’s on all of them. Everyone is pointing the finger at Fields, but I’ve yet to see anything from anyone but maybe Monty and Herbert. And that includes shotgun from the 2 inch line Luke.

Well, Graham Mertz sucks and he had a career game in his 1st start chewing up Lovie's Tampa 2. Fields should be able to do it too!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:12:02 PM
Bear never should have fired Lovie. Added benefit to that would be he never would have been the Illini head coach.

You’re having a really bad take day.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:13:00 PM
No, I don’t. But I’m smart enough to know this isn’t all on Fields, and very few QBs in history have looked NFL ready from the word go. Especially ones on terrible teams. It’s derailed entire careers. Look at Archie Manning.

Archie Manning had no problem throwing to the RB in the flat....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:13:49 PM
You’re having a really bad take day.

Lovie took them to the SuperBowl! Never should have fired him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:14:36 PM
Lovie took them to the SuperBowl! Never should have fired him.

Bruce Weber took us to the title game. Never should have fired him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:15:08 PM
Bruce Weber took us to the title game. Never should have fired him.

You are channeling Jeff Frank now.

Lovie was not in charge of drafting players. Unlike Bruce.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:15:39 PM
Having said everything, Fields is having a bad day so far. I’ll readily admit that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:16:43 PM
Standing O for Cole Kmet
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 01:17:06 PM
He hit an open Kmet that time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:17:45 PM
You are channeling Jeff Frank now.

Lovie was not in charge of drafting players. Unlike Bruce.

Dude, Lovie is a replacement level coach. And trust me, Houston already has a plan to replace him. He’s the Rick Renteria of NFL coaches.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:19:42 PM
Dude, Lovie is a replacement level coach. And trust me, Houston already has a plan to replace him. He’s the Rick Renteria of NFL coaches.

They brought Lovie in to weather the Watson storm. They are terrible,  but they play hard for him. Give him that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:20:17 PM
Bring back Lovie, McCaskeys!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 01:20:29 PM
Lovie took them to the SuperBowl! Never should have fired him.

And only made it to the playoffs once after that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:21:32 PM
Third winningest coach in franchise history!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:21:57 PM
This team has no business losing to the Texans at home. Period. If that happens, the Bears have way bigger problems than the qb. With that being said, Fields looks terrible so far. Hopefully he can bounce back in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:22:13 PM
And only made it to the playoffs once after that.

Not his fault. No good QB ever drafted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:22:33 PM
Tempo, PA is trolling you, lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:23:22 PM
Tempo, PA is trolling you, lol

You just saw the franchise win stats on the screen!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:23:45 PM
They brought Lovie in to weather the Watson storm. They are terrible,  but they play hard for him. Give him that.

Yay for “play hard.” You sound like a WFF.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:24:06 PM
You just saw the franchise win stats on the screen!

Haha
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:24:34 PM
Cairo Santos is the Bear’s best player, lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:24:45 PM
2.23 seconds before Fields had two Texans in his grill. Great pass blocking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:24:53 PM
This team has no business losing to the Texans at home. Period. If that happens, the Bears have way bigger problems than the qb. With that being said, Fields looks terrible so far. Hopefully he can bounce back in the 2nd half.

Correctamundo again, Jobu! This Texan team is no bueno (since it is NFL Pandering to Hispanics Month).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:25:41 PM
Tempo, PA is trolling you, lol

He was all over giving Fields the Mitch treatment before I started in.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:26:03 PM
Yay for “play hard.” You sound like a WFF.

Scoreboard!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 01:26:31 PM
Texans running a 2-minute drill. Bears would just take a knee 😂

At least Texans letting Mills fling it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:26:41 PM
2.23 seconds before Fields had two Texans in his grill. Great pass blocking.

I’m guessing I can point to other plays where he had more time.

This team sucks. We all knew that going in. But they should absolutely not lose this game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:27:19 PM
This team has no business losing to the Texans at home. Period. If that happens, the Bears have way bigger problems than the qb. With that being said, Fields looks terrible so far. Hopefully he can bounce back in the 2nd half.

Lol have you seen the Bears’ roster? They literally aren’t trying to win this year. Having said that, neither really are the Texans. You’ve got maybe the two worst rosters in football on display here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:28:18 PM
He was all over giving Fields the Mitch treatment before I started in.

When did you give up on Mitch? 14 starts in?

Probably before that.

Don’t answer. I know the answer, and I don’t really care. When Parkins and Bernstein turn on Fields, you will too. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:29:17 PM
That was our stud #1 WR dropping a pass directly into his chest.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 01:30:37 PM
You have three timeouts you fucking coward. They don't carry over into the 2nd half.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:30:43 PM
Lol have you seen the Bears’ roster? They literally aren’t trying to win this year. Having said that, neither really are the Texans. You’ve got maybe the two worst rosters in football on display here.

Exactly. But…

The players are trying to win. The Bears have better players. And they’re at home.

Like I said, if they can’t beat the Texans at home, it’s a problem.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:31:03 PM
When did you give up on Mitch? 14 starts in?

Probably before that.

Don’t answer. I know the answer, and I don’t really care. When Parkins and Bernstein turn on Fields, you will too. Lol

I’m honestly not sure when I gave yo on Mitch. I can’t recall. I think it was closer to year 2 of Nagy. I had my doubts about Mitch, but I can’t recall “when I gave up on him.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:31:26 PM
That was our stud #1 WR dropping a pass directly into his chest.

Pssst.... he's not a stud...Al Robinson is no longer around to be the focus of the opposing secondary
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 01:32:23 PM
What an embarrassing ending to the half. Just fucking pathetic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:33:01 PM
If Fields isn’t markedly improved by midway next season I’ll start piling on. He’s got at least 24-30 starts IMO.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:33:10 PM
I’m honestly not sure when I gave yo on Mitch. I can’t recall. I think it was closer to year 2 of Nagy. I had my doubts about Mitch, but I can’t recall “when I gave up on him.”

Ok. Well, I’m not giving up on Fields, but I am concerned. Very concerned.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:33:16 PM
You have three timeouts you fucking coward. They don't carry over into the 2nd half.

Eberfuck knows what he has at QB and didnt want to prolong the half?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:33:42 PM
Pssst.... he's not a stud...

Yeah, that’s my point.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:34:18 PM
Ok. Well, I’m not giving up on Fields, but I am concerned. Very concerned.

How many starts before you call him a cock sucker?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:34:32 PM
If Fields isn’t markedly improved by midway next season I’ll start piling on. He’s got at least 24-30 starts IMO.

24-30 is end of this year. If he still looks like a rookie making his first start in week 17, they better start looking to draft someone else.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:36:05 PM
24-30 is end of this year. If he still looks like a rookie making his first start in week 17, they better start looking to draft someone else.

He’s got at least that many IMO. Midway next season is when I’ll start judging more harshly. This is practically his rookie year IMO. Last year was bungled so badly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:36:16 PM
How many starts before you call him a cock sucker?

I called him a cocksucker when he threw the ball 5 yards past the LOS. I mean, who the fuck does that?

I think when he threw the pick today, I just said cock. Left the sucker part out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 01:37:21 PM
45 yards passing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
He’s got at least that many IMO. Midway next season is when I’ll start judging more harshly. This is practically his rookie year IMO. Last year was bungled so badly.

I’m not willing to throw out last year.  He played in actual games. 

We’ll see. I’m not ready to call him a bust yet. Nobody knows. But I am concerned.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:40:51 PM
45 yards passing.

How is the Texans secondary? Pro bowlers on it?

Yes, Bears receivers are bad. But if they can’t get open against that, maybe they should just call it a year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 01:42:53 PM
I’m not willing to throw out last year.  He played in actual games. 

We’ll see. I’m not ready to call him a bust yet. Nobody knows. But I am concerned.

+1
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:44:23 PM
Montgomery is in my DraftKings Millionaire Maker lineup (which other wise is doing well). SMH
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:45:19 PM
I’m not throwing it out completely, but I’m not counting it as a full year of experience. Nagy did everything he could do to sabotage that season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:45:26 PM
Montgomery is in my DraftKings Millionaire Maker lineup (which other wise is doing well). SMH

Welp. Guess you’re not gonna be a millionaire today.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:47:41 PM
Welp. Guess you’re not gonna be a millionaire today.

I have about 17 FanDuel MM lineups, so still a chance…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:49:32 PM
What a horrible call.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:52:06 PM
Which is worse? Fields or the show Ghosts? Who watches that crap?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:53:49 PM
Judge Judy's guy having himself a day
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:54:03 PM
So, last year I supported playing Dalton because Nagy sucked so bad, and I didn’t want Fields to get killed. I got yelled at because Fields needed experience.

Fields eventually played. Now I’m hearing that experience doesn’t count.

That’s interesting.

Oh well onward and upward.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:54:32 PM
And throwing off the run!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:55:18 PM
So, last year I supported playing Dalton because Nagy sucked so bad, and I didn’t want Fields to get killed. I got yelled at because Fields needed experience.

Fields eventually played. Now I’m hearing that experience doesn’t count.

That’s interesting.

Oh well onward and upward.


Just face it, Jobu. You can't win. Just like arguing with the wife.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:55:36 PM
Herbert could win this game single handedly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:56:00 PM
Starting to think Getsy is another Nagy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:56:10 PM


Just face it, Jobu. You can't win. Just like arguing with the wife.

You’re right about that one!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 01:56:14 PM
Judge Judy's guy having himself a day

Yup. Thanks for the kudos. It was pretty evident Herbert was the better playmaker. More versatility with him. Monty just a bruiser with no vision or receiving acumen. No need for that type of runner in today’s NFL.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 01:56:41 PM
Herbie the Love Bug!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 01:56:54 PM
Bears as usual have good running backs. The only thing they ever get right on offense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:57:49 PM
So, last year I supported playing Dalton because Nagy sucked so bad, and I didn’t want Fields to get killed. I got yelled at because Fields needed experience.

Fields eventually played. Now I’m hearing that experience doesn’t count.

That’s interesting.

Oh well onward and upward.

It counts some. But he wasn’t prepared from the beginning to be the starter, and he clearly wasn’t prepared much at all (by the coaching staff). Did you see his first start in Cleveland? It’s as if Nagy wanted him killed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 01:58:51 PM
It counts some. But he wasn’t prepared from the beginning to be the starter, and he clearly wasn’t prepared much at all (by the coaching staff). Did you see his first start in Cleveland? It’s as if Nagy wanted him killed.

Yes. Which is why I didn’t want him to play.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 01:59:24 PM
Yup. Thanks for the kudos. It was pretty evident Herbert was the better playmaker. More versatility with him. Monty just a bruiser with no vision or receiving acumen. No need for that type of runner in today’s NFL.

Vision is one of Monty’s strengths. It’s the lack of explosiveness or an extra gear that limits him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:00:14 PM
Yes. Which is why I didn’t want him to play.

Well, I also didn’t think Nagy was dumb enough to do 7 step drops behind a bad line, but I shouldn’t have been surprised.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:01:45 PM
Defense needs a stop now. They get a stop, should be game over.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:03:19 PM
I’m not sure either defense is good enough to stop these not good offenses.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:04:22 PM
I’m not sure either defense is good enough to stop these not good offenses.

Haha, good point. Yet it’s only 20-17.

Yuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:05:46 PM
There ya go, Kyler. He needs to be good.

Edit: Fake. Lovie learning new tricks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:06:03 PM
Roquan just murdered that RB. Wow
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 02:06:39 PM
Getting pantsed by Lovie Smith.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:07:52 PM
Woof. Nice special teams, Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:09:48 PM
Bears need to start employing the H.I.T.S. Principle on defense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 02:09:52 PM
Ok I’ll say it. Mills throws a better ball than Fields. At least today anyways.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:11:12 PM
Maybe Herbert can play both ways.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 02:12:07 PM
Maybe Herbert can play both ways.

Not that there is anything wrong with that😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:12:51 PM
Ok I’ll say it. Mills throws a better ball than Fields. At least today anyways.

Mills is a decent prospect, but his ceiling is probably top 15. He was a nice pick in the 3rd round. Good pedigree.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:15:56 PM
Ugh, thought about putting Herbert into a DFS lineup or two, but I felt like I was trying to wish things into existence too hard. Shoulda known it would be a Herbert week after Monty played great last week.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:16:30 PM
Ok, held them to a FG. Now give Herbert the ball and run clock.

Can’t believe we’re sweating this one out. Fuck, man.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:19:27 PM
Man, Fields is stinking it up today, I’ll give you guys that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:19:40 PM
That throw that Fields just made is why he isn’t trusted. Jesus.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:20:30 PM
I have a feeling Justin has a good fourth quarter
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:20:43 PM
Or not
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 02:21:04 PM
Awful, awful decision.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:22:11 PM
This could be his worst start yet
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:23:11 PM
That was some good H.I.T.S. Principling there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:24:39 PM
What the fuck, Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:24:59 PM
Defense stepped up
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 02:25:08 PM
Throwing a bad throw into triple coverage. Just terrible decisions and even worse throws.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:27:21 PM
Shinault with a long TD. Another guy I wanted to wish into existence but after being inactive weeks 1 and 2 couldn’t quite go there lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:27:52 PM
Throwing a bad throw into triple coverage. Just terrible decisions and even worse throws.

Yeah. They just need to run the ball at this point. It’s not his day.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:29:34 PM
Yay, someone was open and Fields hit him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 02:29:39 PM
I'm not about to make Trevor Siemian my best friend like Bears fans love doing with the back up QB because he isn't doing jack shit either. But even the most hardcore Fields fans can't defend this shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:30:22 PM
I'm not about to make Trevor Siemian my best friend like Bears fans love doing with the back up QB because he isn't doing jack shit either. But even the most hardcore Fields fans can't defend this shit.

He’s been dreadful today.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:30:50 PM
Now there was a big league throw.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:32:41 PM
Hey, there’s the Lovie Smith dumb challenge!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 02:34:56 PM
4 fumbles for Fields today as well?! Whether he actually lost them or not doesn’t really matter, as his ball security is also concerning. We can’t even get the exchange between the C and QB correct.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 02:35:00 PM
Hey, there’s the Lovie Smith dumb challenge!

Some things really do never change.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:35:23 PM
Lovie has to be like 3 for 50 in his career on challenges.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:36:31 PM
4 fumbles for Fields today as well?! Whether he actually lost them or not doesn’t really matter, as his ball security is also concerning. We can’t even get the exchange between the C and QB correct.

You’re trying pretty hard there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 02:39:17 PM
Some things really do never change.

Nope
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 02:39:50 PM
You’re trying pretty hard there.

How many times they fuck up the snap today?! How many fumbles he have today?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:42:13 PM
Fields a little dinged up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 02:43:05 PM
Mills has all fucking day back there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:43:22 PM
So help me God, if Siemian comes in and leads a game winning drive, I won’t be able to handle the Chicago meatheads.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:43:37 PM
How many times they fuck up the snap today?! How many fumbles he have today?

I believe they changed Centers today, and even the announcer seemed to blame the first one on the Center.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2022, 02:45:09 PM
I believe they changed Centers today, and even the announcer seemed to blame the first one on the Center.

I don’t give a fuck who’s fault it is. It’s concerning. Fields credited with 2 fumbles today.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:46:09 PM
Ok, Justin. You’ve got a chance to save your day, here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:47:00 PM
Go play action deep off that 19 yard run. Do it now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:47:28 PM
And of course, 1 yard gain up the middle.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:47:38 PM
At this point I don’t care who wins. I just don’t want OT. 60 minutes of this shit is more than enough.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:48:30 PM
JFC. I suppose that’s Justin’s fault, too. I’m about to give up on Getsy, I can say that much. Not impressed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 02:49:10 PM
Just think about it. We could be watching the Bill and the Dolphin
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 02:49:30 PM
JFC. I suppose that’s Justin’s fault, too. I’m about to give up on Getsy, I can say that much. Not impressed.

Outcoached by Lovie there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:49:40 PM
At this point I don’t care who wins. I just don’t want OT. 60 minutes of this shit is more than enough.

Quality post. Wish I’d made it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:49:44 PM
JFC. I suppose that’s Justin’s fault, too. I’m about to give up on Getsy, I can say that much. Not impressed.

Nope. Nothing he could do there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:50:40 PM
Quality post. Wish I’d made it.

Thanks, man! Sun shines on a dogs ass some days.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:51:21 PM
Getsy’s misdirection plays seem to fool even less people than Nagy’s.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:53:23 PM
Justin has had a terrible game but I’m not impressed by Luke Getsy at all so far. Should have immediately come back with play-action after a big run. Nope, 1 yard gain up middle then leaves Justin exposed with no chance on 2nd down. Then 3rd and 16
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:53:48 PM
Let’s see if the stupid Texans can get in FG range.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:54:34 PM
Buffalo, who I thought had a chance to go 17-0 in trouble.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 02:54:40 PM
Now that was a bad decision
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 02:54:44 PM
Roquan comes up huge
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:55:10 PM
Wow, there’s your impressive Texans’ quarterback lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:55:19 PM
Woof. Zach Mills, everybody.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 02:56:03 PM
Wow, there’s your impressive Texans’ quarterback lol

He's been terrible in the 4th quarter. Stanford kid can't take the heat!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:56:10 PM
Ball got tipped, but still.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:56:54 PM
Looks like my 23-17 Bears call was pretty close. Was hoping it would look better.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 02:57:53 PM
How do you waste a timeout on a kneel down?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:58:01 PM
Nagy would have kicked that on 1st down. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 02:58:07 PM
What's with the TO there?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 02:59:08 PM
Can’t take ‘em with ya.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 02:59:15 PM
Bears! Number 1!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 02:59:46 PM
And Lovie Renteria takes the loss. He used to be great at beating the chumps.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2022, 03:00:16 PM
Your 2-1 Bears, everybody. Soak it in.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2022, 03:01:14 PM
Running game was awesome. Passing game..yuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 03:03:12 PM
Your 2-1 Bears, everybody. Soak it in.

SuperBowl!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 03:05:40 PM
Same record as the Chief!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 03:09:01 PM
Same record as the Chief!

Bears on par with Chiefs. Just like Trubisky on par with Mahomes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 03:24:31 PM
Bears on par with Chiefs. Just like Trubisky on par with Mahomes.
Hahahaha. Where is Spark when you need him?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 04:35:45 PM
So, Fields was awful today, no sugar coating it. But I am not panicking or even close to writing him off yet. As I said, I think the picture will be much clearer the middle of next season. If he’s consistently bad 3 games into next year, I will start to panic.

I’m honestly more worried about Getsy at this point. He seems to have no idea how to get an offense into rhythm, and at least by my eyes, seems to follow up every chunk gain with a run up the middle. A really insightful analyst said Getsy was making things more difficult for Justin than they should be. Not that Fields hasn’t stunk, he has.

Getsy’s misdirection plays seem to get blown up with the regularity of Matt Nagy’s. The talent on offense stinks up and down the board. Right now I just want to see Fields make progress, and finish the year upright. I’ve been completely unimpressed with Getsy thus far.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 04:37:17 PM
DK Metcalf with a man’s touchdown. I wanted the Bears to trade for him when he was rumored to be available.  If he’s in next years’ draft and you know what you know, you’re taking him top 5. At least they didn’t have to spend money though. Next year should be a big free agent year for the Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 05:05:48 PM
DK Metcalf with a man’s touchdown. I wanted the Bears to trade for him when he was rumored to be available.  If he’s in next years’ draft and you know what you know, you’re taking him top 5. At least they didn’t have to spend money though. Next year should be a big free agent year for the Bears.

If they are not spending it on Arlington Heights....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2022, 06:08:46 PM
Everyone wants to pile on Justin, forgetting that Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and Tua all looked like shit the first couple years of their career. It’s gonna take some time, he’s clearly not a finished product, and doesn’t have much for help.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 06:58:45 PM
Everyone wants to pile on Justin, forgetting that Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and Tua all looked like shit the first couple years of their career. It’s gonna take some time, he’s clearly not a finished product, and doesn’t have much for help.

Hamp and OB officially concerned about Fields. Hamp said Fields has regressed from last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2022, 08:36:53 PM
I didn't write this one.... But I could've..

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bears-have-made-their-message-on-justin-fields-painfully-clear/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 26, 2022, 01:22:22 AM
Bears have a lot of work to do to get anywhere near the Nagy-Trubiskey 2018 team.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 26, 2022, 11:11:33 AM
Bears have a lot of work to do to get anywhere near the Nagy-Trubiskey 2018 team.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 26, 2022, 09:03:28 PM
The Giant looks like they stink too. Maybe Mitch Fields can light them up. Or get sacked 9 times in the 1st half like Jay Cutler. It would not shock me either way.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on September 27, 2022, 09:31:17 AM
The Giant looks like they stink too. Maybe Mitch Fields can light them up. Or get sacked 9 times in the 1st half like Jay Cutler. It would not shock me either way.

Cooper fucking Rush beat them.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 27, 2022, 02:54:49 PM
Cooper fucking Rush beat them.

If Fields threw for 200+ and 1 TD, I’d be ecstatic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on September 27, 2022, 03:14:39 PM
If Fields threw for 200+ and 1 TD, I’d be ecstatic.

Yeah, but Cooper Rush is just a 5th year rookie, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 01, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
Cooper fucking Rush beat them.

If the Bears pressure Jones like 17x and sack him 5, I like their chances.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 01, 2022, 02:27:08 PM
If the Bears pressure Jones like 17x and sack him 5, I like their chances.

New kicker playing
...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 12:13:21 PM
Gutless bullshit calling a run play up the middle on 2nd and 9 from the 11 yard line.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 02, 2022, 12:26:01 PM
Somehow I feel like if the Bears weren’t trying to hide Fields and were letting him act like an actual NFL quarterback then we would bitch about “throwing him to the wolves” too.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 12:28:52 PM
Getsy is gutless.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 12:29:22 PM
Gutless Getsy
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 12:29:31 PM
Getsy personally stalled both of those drives.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 02, 2022, 12:44:02 PM
He doesn’t trust his quarterback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 12:55:02 PM
Great screen call and execution.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 12:56:07 PM
He doesn’t trust his quarterback.

Derp.

That was probably the best screen play the Bears have run since the Payton era.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 12:56:28 PM
And that sucked. Oof.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 12:57:44 PM
If that was Tom Brady it would have been an incomplete pass.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 12:59:02 PM
This defense is stinking out loud. No clue where the ball carrier is and no clue how to defend the bootleg.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 01:00:25 PM
Nice tackling bozos
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 01:01:37 PM
H.I.T. S.S.’ principle  Is taking it on the chin.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 01:03:03 PM
Giants keep running that same play action boot leg and Bears are biting hard every single time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 01:11:53 PM
Bears needed that. It was on the verge of getting ugly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 01:12:58 PM
Bears needed that. It was on the verge of getting ugly.

Only down 8. Considering how bad the defense has been that’s a blessing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 01:18:29 PM
Giants defenders dropping like flies.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 01:30:08 PM
Free run at Fields off the edge. JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 01:31:14 PM
Nice block, Herbert.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 01:31:47 PM
Giants defenders dropping like flies.

Also spending a lot of time in the Bears’ backfield.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 01:47:52 PM
Finally has a clean pocket and delivers a completion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 01:48:37 PM
Fields has time and makes a nice throw to Mooney. More of that please.

And less of Ebner and more of Herbert please.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 01:50:32 PM
Gutless Getsy draws up another screen to Kmet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 01:55:21 PM
Trubisky just got benched.

EDIT: Pickett got picked on his first pass attempt lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 02:14:39 PM
Trubisky just got benched.

EDIT: Pickett got picked on his first pass attempt lol

Was gonna ask if the Trubisky era in Pittsburgh was already over, or if he’d gotten hurt. It’s the right move. Mitch is a backup.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 02:26:05 PM
Eddie Jackson revival might be real
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 02, 2022, 02:43:40 PM
Derp.

That was probably the best screen play the Bears have run since the Payton era.

Derp?

I was just saying he doesn’t trust him. Didn’t say I was a Getsy fan. Damn

Not my fault the Bears suck, dude. Don’t get mad at me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 02:47:32 PM
Running up the middle ain't it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 02:51:33 PM
There's Poles boy Velus Jones choking in the clutch.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 02, 2022, 02:51:54 PM
Oh Velus. Fuckity fuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 02, 2022, 02:54:01 PM
Nice punt return catch. Embarrassing and just gave the game away.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 02, 2022, 03:01:57 PM
Noice. Sand lot football.👍
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 03:02:49 PM
They can't even trust him to chuck a desperation heave.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 02, 2022, 03:09:53 PM
Would’ve been nice to see a Hail Mary and how far he can throw it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 03:38:15 PM
Derp?

I was just saying he doesn’t trust him. Didn’t say I was a Getsy fan. Damn

Not my fault the Bears suck, dude. Don’t get mad at me.

Derp because you’re just regurgitating the party line on Fields. Did you see the pass blocking today? Did you see Getsy personally stall the first two drives deep in Giants territory with gutless runs up the middle on pretty clear passing downs?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 03:38:51 PM
Would’ve been nice to see a Hail Mary and how far he can throw it.

Getsy is more conservative than Newt  Gingrich.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2022, 03:39:11 PM
Derp?

I was just saying he doesn’t trust him. Didn’t say I was a Getsy fan. Damn

Not my fault the Bears suck, dude. Don’t get mad at me.

Jobu=Getsy is a match!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 03:39:57 PM
They can't even trust him to chuck a desperation heave.

Again, why is it always “him?” Did you see how many Giants came in unblocked today? Dude is getting sacked on like 30% of drop backs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2022, 03:41:03 PM
Derp because you’re just regurgitating the party line on Fields. Did you see the pass blocking today? Did you see Getsy personally stall the first two drives deep in Giants territory with gutless runs up the middle on pretty clear passing downs?

When I looked up from working on the computer, he looked like he had some time. He had time when he threw that screen type pass (since no one went out to block) to Kmet for a loss.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2022, 03:42:18 PM
Derp because you’re just regurgitating the party line on Fields. Did you see the pass blocking today? Did you see Getsy personally stall the first two drives deep in Giants territory with gutless runs up the middle on pretty clear passing downs?

Do you believe Getsy trusts Fields? Or the o line?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 02, 2022, 03:45:00 PM
Derp because you’re just regurgitating the party line on Fields. Did you see the pass blocking today? Did you see Getsy personally stall the first two drives deep in Giants territory with gutless runs up the middle on pretty clear passing downs?

I actually didn’t see much of the game at all. I chose to enjoy this beautiful weather. I made the right choice.

This team has problems. It’s not just Fields, that’s for sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2022, 03:46:11 PM
When I looked up from working on the computer, he looked like he had some time. He had time when he threw that screen type pass (since no one went out to block) to Kmet for a loss.

Fields wasn’t mistake free today. But he was a lot better than last week, and not even top 4-5 in reasons we lost.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 02, 2022, 04:54:42 PM
The fuckin Patriots are on QB3, with a shitload of injuries, and they lead the Packers at halftime.

Bears can’t hang with them healthy. Fuckin comical.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2022, 05:02:42 PM
The fuckin Patriots are on QB3, with a shitload of injuries, and they lead the Packers at halftime.

Bears can’t hang with them healthy. Fuckin comical.

All Getsy's fault.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 02, 2022, 06:24:22 PM
The fuckin Patriots are on QB3, with a shitload of injuries, and they lead the Packers at halftime.

Bears can’t hang with them healthy. Fuckin comical.

And Matt Patricia calling plays. Yes, that Matt Patricia.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 02, 2022, 07:43:55 PM
Hey guys just your annual reminder that the bear is an absolute garbage franchise and don’t deserve your fandom or loyalty.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 02, 2022, 07:50:37 PM
Hey guys just your annual reminder that the bear is an absolute garbage franchise and don’t deserve your fandom or loyalty.

Yep. Which is why i elected to enjoy the weather instead of sitting inside watching shit football.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on October 03, 2022, 09:34:05 AM
Yep. Which is why i elected to enjoy the weather instead of sitting inside watching shit football.

I did the same, but I did come in for a late lunch, just in time to see the fabulous unraveling.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on October 03, 2022, 09:35:34 AM
Derp because you’re just regurgitating the party line on Fields. Did you see the pass blocking today? Did you see Getsy personally stall the first two drives deep in Giants territory with gutless runs up the middle on pretty clear passing downs?

The pass blocking was abysmal. No one can succeed with less than a second to look downfield.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 03, 2022, 10:37:58 AM
The pass blocking was abysmal. No one can succeed with less than a second to look downfield.

Twitter is filled with morons and bots. Statistically speaking, he takes too long to throw and guys are open, but he is a shitty QB who doesn't read his progressions.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 03, 2022, 03:45:06 PM
Twitter is filled with morons and bots. Statistically speaking, he takes too long to throw and guys are open, but he is a shitty QB who doesn't read his progressions.

Though I saw a new graph out there showing that the Bears' percentages for protection and receivers getting open is the worst in the league. So, maybe we should all watch the All 22 and decide for ourselves?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2022, 08:42:38 PM
Hey guys just your annual reminder that the bear is an absolute garbage franchise and don’t deserve your fandom or loyalty.

Cool story.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 03, 2022, 09:48:14 PM
Hey guys just your annual reminder that the bear is an absolute garbage franchise and don’t deserve your fandom or loyalty.

Just your annual reminder that we are well aware and tune in anyway because we are masochists.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 03, 2022, 11:27:19 PM
Just trying to break the toxic cycle man
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 04, 2022, 07:43:09 AM
Just trying to break the toxic cycle man

You’re an Illini football fan, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 04, 2022, 11:03:11 AM
Just trying to break the toxic cycle man

battered woman syndrome
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 04, 2022, 02:02:05 PM
According to Brad Biggs, it’s not a matter of “if the Bears move to Arlington Heights, but when.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 04, 2022, 02:09:33 PM
SMH

https://twitter.com/bobbybooshay713/status/1577327843188654081?s=46&t=FPp6I-iLcNcEDGUx-xIShQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 04, 2022, 03:16:30 PM
According to Brad Biggs, it’s not a matter of “if the Bears move to Arlington Heights, but when.”

Time will tell how correct he is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 04, 2022, 04:54:32 PM
It’s a done deal. No idea how you or anyone else would think otherwise.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 04, 2022, 05:45:12 PM
It’s a done deal. No idea how you or anyone else would think otherwise.

How is it a done deal? Has the state allocated money yet? Arlington Heights?

The Bear has not bought the property yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 09, 2022, 12:17:08 PM
Nice start.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 12:19:17 PM
Look at that. Don’t play scared and you might get a big chunk gain via penalty. Wonder if the Bears’ learned something there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 12:32:14 PM
Cousins is 13/13. Bears defense isn't even trying to come up with a plan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 12:38:08 PM
Damn I'm still tired. You would thing the PassiveWoman would get up to let the dog out at 7am and take her to the dog park since I got home at 130am, but nooooooo.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 12:40:15 PM
That false start and shit throw by Mitch Fields is all Getsy's fault
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 12:48:40 PM
Cousins is shredding this Bears defense. 16/16, yikes. Jefferson with over 100 yards receiving already.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 09, 2022, 12:48:46 PM
That false start and shit throw by Mitch Fields is all Getsy's fault
Mitch did all he could, but the receiver was a half step too fast and the ball was thrown behind him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 12:51:12 PM
They are toying with the Bears D
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 09, 2022, 12:51:27 PM
Mini Justin Jefferson: 73

Da Bear: 6
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 12:51:57 PM
Feels like the wheels are coming off of the H.I.T.S. Principle bus.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 12:52:44 PM
Mitch did all he could, but the receiver was a half step too fast and the ball was thrown behind him.

Ahh yes. Never Mitch Fields' fault
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 12:53:16 PM
Mini Justin Jefferson: 73

Da Bear: 6

I thought you didn't watch the Bear?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 09, 2022, 12:54:22 PM
The future Hall of Famer needs to showcase his game if the Bear wants to win this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 12:55:52 PM
The future Hall of Famer needs to showcase his game if the Bear wants to win this.

Very disappointed we didn't get the fish wrap analysis of this game from you
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 12:56:07 PM
Unless I missed it....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 12:57:24 PM
If you're gonna put a whooping on my favorite football team, can you at least throw it to Jefferson in the end zone? The receptions, yards and 23 yard pass completion are all nice though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 12:59:06 PM
Surprised not to see Sidney Brown hit a sliding QB there. ....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 12:59:15 PM
The gap between Hackett and Eberflus seems to be narrowing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:00:24 PM
If you're gonna put a whooping on my favorite football team, can you at least throw it to Jefferson in the end zone? The receptions, yards and 23 yard pass completion are all nice though.

I am taking a drink every time Jefferson is thrown to and when Fields sucks. I'm going to be drunk soon.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:00:50 PM
The gap between Hackett and Eberflus seems to be narrowing.

Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 09, 2022, 01:01:05 PM
Very disappointed we didn't get the fish wrap analysis of this game from you
I didn't read much of the fishwrap pre-game, other than the part about Mitch holding onto the ball longer than anybody else.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 09, 2022, 01:01:56 PM
If Pettis was only 2 inches taller.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 09, 2022, 01:04:47 PM
The gap between Hackett and Eberflus seems to be narrowing.
Trash is trash, no matter how you slice it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:05:25 PM
If Pettis was only 2 inches taller.

That's what she said
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:06:21 PM
Is Tim Beckman coaching the Bear D?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 01:07:14 PM
First incompletion. Look at those adjustments baby!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 01:12:42 PM
Holy fuck what an incredible grab by Mooney!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:14:05 PM
Holy fuck what an incredible grab by Mooney!

Fields has no receivers though
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:14:18 PM
Let's go Bear!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:17:19 PM
Fields has no receivers though

Really…on what other team would Darnell Mooney be the #1. Let alone the unquestioned #1.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 01:17:45 PM
Still don't like the 3rd and 8 run but it worked out nicely.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:19:11 PM
Still don't like the 3rd and 8 run but it worked out nicely.

Agreed. Rolled my eyes then saw him waltzing into the end zone. Minnesota will probably let this get interesting. Seems to fit their MO.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:23:44 PM
It was a great catch, but those gloves are like Velcro these days.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:24:43 PM
It’s a minor miracle the Bears are only down 11 points going into the half.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 01:26:07 PM
If Pettis was only 2 inches taller.

Yep, just more proof it’s not Mitch Fields fault.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:31:06 PM
Really…on what other team would Darnell Mooney be the #1. Let alone the unquestioned #1.

The Bear no. 1 receiver is on the IL and did not renew his driver's license.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:40:01 PM
Really glad Poles spent a 3rd round pick on a kick returner.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:40:59 PM
The Bear no. 1 receiver is on the IL and did not renew his driver's license.

He’s the highest paid, but not one person had Pringle pegged as the #1.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:41:50 PM
I can’t ever recall seeing so many unblocked defensive players as I’ve seen this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:43:36 PM
Would be very on brand for the Vikings to totally dominate a game and be leading 21-17.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:43:44 PM
Can’t teach that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 01:45:03 PM
Poles boy with the TD. Not a bust!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:45:32 PM
Just kick the PAT idiots!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:46:07 PM
I can’t ever recall seeing so many unblocked defensive players as I’ve seen this year.

Pros only? Because Illinois....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:47:19 PM
Just kick the PAT idiots!

The right play is to go for it. Well read by the corner.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 01:49:26 PM
Was screaming at them to go for 2 and they did. Nothing wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with the onside either. Keep up the aggresssiveness.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:49:41 PM
That was unnecessary. But at least Flus showed some balls. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:50:45 PM
The right play is to go for it. Well read by the corner.

Too early
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:51:12 PM
So they’re just gonna let Jefferson catch 20 balls without being challenged today, huh?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:51:27 PM
Score a td and now only up 2. That was dumb
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:53:04 PM
Score a td and now only up 2. That was dumb

Whu?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:53:32 PM
Oh nvm. You’re still talking about the 2 pointer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:54:21 PM
Nice stop. Vikings are gonna blow this game. They’re every bit as self-sabotaging as the Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 01:55:26 PM
Really glad Poles spent a 3rd round pick on a kick returner.

You mean the only receiver for the Bears to catch a TD?! 🤔
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 01:56:08 PM
The Bears still have more than a fighting chance. Wow.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 01:58:29 PM
Whu?

Yes. Take the point in the 3rd quarter.  Lucky not to be down 8. Branden Staley has proven to be an idiot

Sorry, Miles. Disagree on the going for 2. Only do it in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:59:07 PM
You mean the only receiver for the Bears to catch a TD?! 🤔

Doesn’t take special talent to catch a shovel pass.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 01:59:59 PM
C’mon, push it down field, Bears. Roll Fields out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:00:13 PM
Doesn’t take special talent to catch a shovel pass.

We are watching Bear football, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:00:30 PM
JFC throw the ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:01:54 PM
Glad to see Eberflus getting more aggressive.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 02:02:40 PM
Fields has special running ability.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:04:33 PM
Allen Robinson catches that. That was more of a drop than a good defensive breakup.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:06:17 PM
Our #1 WR.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:06:35 PM
Fields has special running ability.

Gotta be careful though. That last run he got his bell rung and took a minute to get up with two teammates helping him. Too many of those and he won’t be around long.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:07:05 PM
Allen Robinson catches that. That was more of a drop than a good defensive breakup.

Oh brother.  Sometimes you need to tip your cap to the other team
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:07:20 PM
We are watching Bear football, right?

This, Tempo, this
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:08:03 PM
Oh brother.  Sometimes you need to tip your cap to the other team

A true 1 catches that TD.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:08:34 PM
Allen Robinson catches that. That was more of a drop than a good defensive breakup.

🥴
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:08:54 PM
Brandon Marshall or Allen Robinson definitely catch that pass.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:09:23 PM
Or Alshon.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 02:16:22 PM
Vildor making a play!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:17:43 PM
Big INT and response after a BS holding call on the Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 02:17:54 PM
Da Bears actually resemble an NFL team right now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:18:45 PM
Couldn’t have seen this game so competitive an hour ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:19:44 PM
They’re gonna call that back.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:20:53 PM
Give that guy an Oscar.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:22:52 PM
Fuck you, Getsy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:23:41 PM
Fields on the verge of a breakout game and Getsy calls inside handoff on critical down. Grow some balls.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:24:07 PM
I’m good with taking the 3. Should’ve thrown on that 3rd and 3, but I get it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 02:24:34 PM
Fields on the verge of a breakout game and Getsy calls inside handoff on critical down. Grow some balls.

Playing for a 50 yard FG is as gutless as it gets.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:24:41 PM
A true 1 catches that TD.

I don't know about that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:25:28 PM
Your Getsy hate, while at times warranted, is weird.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:26:14 PM
Counting on Kirk Cousins being Kirk Cousins is not a bad bet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:28:04 PM
I don't know about that.

Dude…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:28:47 PM
You telling me Alshon, Marshall, or ARob don’t catch that ball? They do 90% of the time at least.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:29:35 PM
The defender’s hand was clearly blocking the ball before it could get to Mooney’s hands. It was a really good defensive recovery by the defender. You’re reaching.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:30:05 PM
Your Getsy hate, while at times warranted, is weird.

I don’t like coaches who coach scared. Or dumb. Running on obvious pass plays. Running from shotgun from 6 inches out…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:31:39 PM
The defender’s hand was clearly blocking the ball before it could get to Mooney’s hands. It was a really good defensive recovery by the defender. You’re reaching.

A true number one is 4 inches taller and high points that ball with stronger hands.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:32:52 PM
That inside handoff will be why the Bears lose.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:37:24 PM
Looks like Fields is gonna possibly have a 2-minute drill here to win the game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:38:25 PM
You telling me Alshon, Marshall, or ARob don’t catch that ball? They do 90% of the time at least.

Yes, I would tell you that
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:39:16 PM
The defender’s hand was clearly blocking the ball before it could get to Mooney’s hands. It was a really good defensive recovery by the defender. You’re reaching.

Or he is watching a Madden simulation of the game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:40:12 PM
Lou Tepper would say to let them score.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on October 09, 2022, 02:41:52 PM
The QB sneak is nearly indefensible.  More teams should use it
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:42:02 PM
Yes, I would tell you that

Lol ok
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:42:51 PM
Lol ok

Considering that extra point is looming large now I'd say you are full of shit with your Bear thoughts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:44:37 PM
That sound you hear are crickets.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 02:45:00 PM
Yeah just don't cover Jefferson on the 2 pt conversion either
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:45:35 PM
Time to see what Fields has got. Big question is do they go for the 2-point conversion to win the game or kick the PAT and go to overtime?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:45:39 PM
Fucking stupid to go for 2 there. But Dan Bernstein and Tempo think that was smart football.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:45:46 PM
This is a drop, you nitwits.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5yVtWzv/733261-FE-3-A95-48-DB-90-C4-369-B8-CEA45-B9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDsF0Yd7)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:47:41 PM
This is a drop, you nitwits.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5yVtWzv/733261-FE-3-A95-48-DB-90-C4-369-B8-CEA45-B9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDsF0Yd7)

Play more of the video, Mr.Go For 2 Nitwit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:48:31 PM
JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:49:09 PM
JFC

Exactly
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:49:25 PM
It was contested, but it was just as much of a drop as a great defensive play. At least as much.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 09, 2022, 02:49:59 PM
Fucking stupid to go for 2 there. But Dan Bernstein and Tempo think that was smart football.
I think it's called don't chase points.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: Mn link=topic=607.msg52626#msg52626 date=166534499h9
I think it's called don't chase points.

Exactly
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:50:42 PM
Can’t believe Getsy fumbled that ball there!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:50:57 PM
Now you can blame someone other than Fields
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 02:51:17 PM
Go out of bounds you fucking dolt.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:51:26 PM
Bears’ receiving corps, ladies and gents.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 02:51:40 PM
Gtfo of bounds there Smith-Marsette!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:52:22 PM
Now you can blame someone other than Fields

Fields is why they had a chance to win. You’ve got such a Mitch boner for him you can’t give him credit when he deserves it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on October 09, 2022, 02:52:30 PM
Nice way to lose 😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:52:39 PM
Where is Marion Barber when you need him?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 09, 2022, 02:52:50 PM
And the Getsy call makes no difference.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:53:55 PM
Fields is why they had a chance to win. You’ve got such a Mitch boner for him you can’t give him credit when he deserves it.

Kirk Cousins doing his Kirk Cousins thing in the 2d half didn't hurt.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:54:44 PM
Fields is why they had a chance to win. You’ve got such a Mitch boner for him you can’t give him credit when he deserves it.

He wasn't awful today. Improvement.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 02:55:30 PM
Anyone blaming Fields for this is nuts. One of his better games in his brief pro career.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:57:21 PM
And the Getsy call makes no difference.

Hard to say. If the Bears go on to score a TD it’s a different game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:58:27 PM
Hard to say. If the Bears go on to score a TD it’s a different game.
A tied game instead of a victory.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:58:32 PM
If anything, that Mooney play was PI. The guy never really touches the ball, just his arm. And it’s slightly before the ball arrives. A true Alpha high points that pass and more often than not comes down with it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zGC8jSXx/FA74-E213-A712-4923-A93-F-D7-EF847264-DD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4YxD4ccc)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 02:59:04 PM
Anyone blaming Fields for this is nuts. One of his better games in his brief pro career.

I'm not blaming him for this game. D was awful 1st half.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 02:59:15 PM
Smith-Marsette was also the one called for the block in the back penalty on the Fields TD run. Leave his dumb ass in Minnesota.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 02:59:55 PM
A tied game instead of a victory.

If the Bears go on to score it changes the complexion of the Vikings last drive completely. Likely wouldn’t have had nearly as much time. As bad as the Bears played, the refs probably fucked them as much as anything.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 03:00:25 PM
Well, Hamp and OB should be entertaining
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 03:01:11 PM
If the Bears go on to score it changes the complexion of the Vikings last drive completely. Likely wouldn’t have had nearly as much time. As bad as the Bears played, the refs probably fucked then as much as anything.

The refs?

Which stage of Sports Grief is next?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 03:02:39 PM
I'm not blaming him for this game. D was awful 1st half.

No, but your Mitch Fields boner is still showing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 03:03:12 PM
No, but your Mitch Fields boner is still showing.

It was a nice fumble recovery that last drive.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 09, 2022, 03:03:29 PM
Smith-Marsette was also the one called for the block in the back penalty on the Fields TD run. Leave his dumb ass in Minnesota.

Agreed, this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 09, 2022, 03:19:15 PM
Hard to say. If the Bears go on to score a TD it’s a different game.
If the Bears would have scored more points than the Vikings, it's a different outcome.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 03:20:02 PM
If the Bears would have scored more points than the Vikings, it's a different outcome.

Ok, dipshit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 09, 2022, 03:23:48 PM
If the Bears would have scored more points than the Vikings, it's a different outcome.

Prove it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 03:24:02 PM
On the plus side, Eberflus is no longer more conservative than Newt Gingrich.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 03:32:59 PM
If the Bears would have scored more points than the Vikings, it's a different outcome.

I think I saw that in my fish wrap!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 03:33:50 PM
Ok, dipshit.

Hard to refute.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 09, 2022, 04:26:57 PM
And if the Bears defense holds, for a 22-21 road win ? 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 06:20:20 PM
Some reasonable thoughts from David Haugh.

https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-bears/haugh-bears-lose-to-vikings-as-justin-fields-matt-eberflus-show-progress?fbclid=IwAR0oQDFyWICBEr1xmRHbmpN9sM_9eM_pBNlnytAd5adlGGmqdsJoum_4JAw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2022, 07:47:02 PM
Some reasonable thoughts from David Haugh.

https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-bears/haugh-bears-lose-to-vikings-as-justin-fields-matt-eberflus-show-progress?fbclid=IwAR0oQDFyWICBEr1xmRHbmpN9sM_9eM_pBNlnytAd5adlGGmqdsJoum_4JAw

Not a fan of Haugh, but I agree it was reasonable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2022, 10:51:51 PM
Wild nut punch of a day. But I did like some of what I saw. 1) they didn’t give up 2) Fields was by and large pretty good (in 2nd half). Probably got screwed on the TD that was called back. 3) Ebeflus didn’t coach like Lovie. I was really down on Flus after the last few games for calling ultra-conservative games. I was encouraged to see this change, I hope he errs more often on the side of aggression going forward.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 10, 2022, 07:19:24 AM
Wild nut punch of a day. But I did like some of what I saw. 1) they didn’t give up 2) Fields was by and large pretty good (in 2nd half). Probably got screwed on the TD that was called back. 3) Ebeflus didn’t coach like Lovie. I was really down on Flus after the last few games for calling ultra-conservative games. I was encouraged to see this change, I hope he errs more often on the side of aggression going forward.

The second half, minus the D on the last Viking scoring drive and going for 2, was largely positve.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 10, 2022, 08:12:29 AM
The Bears, with the lead, give up a 75 yard td drive to lose.
The Illini, with the lead, give up a 75 yard td drive to lose.

The end of game threads on the 2 games. Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 10, 2022, 10:32:58 AM
The Bears, with the lead, give up a 75 yard td drive to lose.
The Illini, with the lead, give up a 75 yard td drive to lose.

The end of game threads on the 2 games. Lol.

Right? 😬
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 10, 2022, 10:56:31 AM
The Illini.
If they had only kicked the fg.
Should have kicked the fg.
Those 3 points would have been nice.

The Bears.
They should have tried to score from the 35, instead of kicking the fg.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 10, 2022, 06:45:15 PM
NFL Network just had some MNF pregame bit on DBs breaking up passes. Yes, the Purported Mooney Drop in the end zone was featured. They showed the play from behind the D and you could see that Mooney had 3 to 4 yards on the guy and was wide open. The guy made up that distance to get his hand on the ball (as the segment featured DBs breaking up passes, not drops). The throw was late.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 10, 2022, 07:24:05 PM
NFL Network just had some MNF pregame bit on DBs breaking up passes. Yes, the Purported Mooney Drop in the end zone was featured. They showed the play from behind the D and you could see that Mooney had 3 to 4 yards on the guy and was wide open. The guy made up that distance to get his hand on the ball (as the segment featured DBs breaking up passes, not drops). The throw was late.

Bingo.

Of course you couldn’t tell that in the fuzzy photo. BUT even if you could…

Getsy had him throw it way too late.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 10, 2022, 07:50:09 PM
The list of truly difference making qbs who can hit a timing pattern in his 1st 20 starts is short.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 10, 2022, 08:21:33 PM
Two different staffs have coached him now and clearly they aren’t even working with him. I’m guessing he just plays as himself on Madden in the locker room while the rest of the team goes through drills.

Gutless Getsy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IlliniGolf on October 10, 2022, 11:22:23 PM
Tempo will die on this hill becaus Fields is black and his white coach’s are letting him down !
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 07:19:01 AM
Plenty of XP stupidity in the MNF game last night.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 11, 2022, 07:33:18 AM
Plenty of XP stupidity in the MNF game last night.

Yes, but some idiot will say "I like the aggressiveness of that call". It was dumb. Kick the PAT.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 06:42:44 PM
Two different staffs have coached him now and clearly they aren’t even working with him. I’m guessing he just plays as himself on Madden in the locker room while the rest of the team goes through drills.

Gutless Getsy.

I expect better from you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 06:43:05 PM
Tempo will die on this hill becaus Fields is black and his white coach’s are letting him down !

I don’t expect better from you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 06:45:57 PM
Hahahahaha.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 06:53:42 PM
NFL Network just had some MNF pregame bit on DBs breaking up passes. Yes, the Purported Mooney Drop in the end zone was featured. They showed the play from behind the D and you could see that Mooney had 3 to 4 yards on the guy and was wide open. The guy made up that distance to get his hand on the ball (as the segment featured DBs breaking up passes, not drops). The throw was late.

Mooney literally sidestepped a linebacker then sidestepped the DB and split in between them and was alone for a brief second. The ball had to be thrown with loft. It was anything but a given Mooney would be open on that play. But don’t give up your Mitch Fields schtick because it’s “killing.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 06:55:04 PM
Mooney juked and split two defenders and was alone briefly, it’s not like Fields missed him streaking down the sideline.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 06:57:28 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR0D5fG6JCKa7j_J9sfQQCljahjmuO7h40X_ejQFxM3d6H6nf1WvG49Gv2E&v=LU26XPv6wG8&feature=youtu.be

Fields discussion ticks up about 5 minutes in if you want to skip forward.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 07:01:22 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZ2nYq51/967-FF2-A7-010-C-42-A9-B19-D-A8024-D71-DB79.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/McrCnfCG)

This is the formation pre-snap on the play. Expecting Fields to perfectly time up Mooney literally doing two “crossover” moves on two players and splitting them in between seems to be a pretty high bar.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 07:21:59 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR0D5fG6JCKa7j_J9sfQQCljahjmuO7h40X_ejQFxM3d6H6nf1WvG49Gv2E&v=LU26XPv6wG8&feature=youtu.be

Fields discussion ticks up about 5 minutes in if you want to skip forward.

Heard Parkins's voice and balled.

He had a good 2d half. Has some skills. It is all between the ears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 07:27:39 PM
JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 07:27:51 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZ2nYq51/967-FF2-A7-010-C-42-A9-B19-D-A8024-D71-DB79.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/McrCnfCG)

This is the formation pre-snap on the play. Expecting Fields to perfectly time up Mooney literally doing two “crossover” moves on two players and splitting them in between seems to be a pretty high bar.

8:27 mark. He was on the run, so he could not throw the balk when Mooney was by himself open.

https://youtu.be/q3vK4OqR-Bo

NFL won't let it be posted here. It will take you to The YouTube if you it it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 07:28:28 PM
JFC

That whole station stinks. Can't listen to it anymore.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 11, 2022, 07:29:07 PM
Getsy calling pass patterns to set his qb up to fail.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 07:36:49 PM
Sunday was by far Getsy’s best game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 07:37:22 PM
That whole station stinks. Can't listen to it anymore.

Show me on the doll where 670TheScore touched you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 07:40:43 PM
The fact that you won’t watch the video because you heard Danny Parkins’ voice shows me that you aren’t open-minded and lack objectivity.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 07:54:39 PM
Sunday was by far Getsy’s best game.

That Jenkins fella always discusses how good Getsy's plays are.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 07:55:55 PM
The fact that you won’t watch the video because you heard Danny Parkins’ voice shows me that you aren’t open-minded and lack objectivity.

He is brutally bad at his job. And throwing a baseball, but I understand he has had chronic back issues, so he gets a pass from me on that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 07:57:09 PM
Show me on the doll where 670TheScore touched you.

They hurt my ears and mind with shitty takes. Les Grobstein was the last entertaining personality and that is because callers would troll him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 07:58:00 PM
And I'm not listening to the worse shit on ESPN1000 either.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 08:30:48 PM
That Jenkins fella always discusses how good Getsy's plays are.

He’s mentioned that he likes some of them. I have more of a problem with his play-calling than his actual plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 08:32:23 PM
He is brutally bad at his job. And throwing a baseball, but I understand he has had chronic back issues, so he gets a pass from me on that.

Brutally bad? How so? Glad to know you haven’t cancelled his manhood over a throw from the mound.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 08:34:26 PM
They hurt my ears and mind with shitty takes. Les Grobstein was the last entertaining personality and that is because callers would troll him.

I love Les, but his show was only digestible in small clips. Weird you’d think he was the most listenable
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 08:35:36 PM
And I'm not listening to the worse shit on ESPN1000 either.

Well we agree on that, ESPN is a tough listen for me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 08:39:33 PM
He’s mentioned that he likes some of them. I have more of a problem with his play-calling than his actual plays.

I can understand that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 08:40:33 PM
I love Les, but his show was only digestible in small clips. Weird you’d think he was the most listenable

Tallest midget, I guess. No offense to Differently Height Challenged People.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 08:41:11 PM
Well we agree on that, ESPN is a tough listen for me.

Silvy and Wadell bringing us together...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 08:45:22 PM
Brutally bad? How so? Glad to know you haven’t cancelled his manhood over a throw from the mound.

It just got overly repetitive and too gambling focused. Did you know Parkins likes weed?!

At the end of the day, getting the Cub may have killed any semblance of interesting thoughts the hosts had. Doug Buffone dying killed the Bear post game show.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 08:45:48 PM
I only listen to ESPN if The Score is talking about something incredibly boring. Like Marathon talk or Saturday baseball shows during football season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 08:46:09 PM
Almost everyone on ESPN sounds the same to me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 08:48:41 PM
I didn’t care for him at first, but Parkins grew on me. He’s pretty good at his job. I do feel he needs someone like Spiegel to smooth his edges a bit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 08:50:54 PM
I only listen to ESPN if The Score is talking about something incredibly boring. Like Marathon talk or Saturday baseball shows during football season.

Haugh is bland. Mully yells too much. The producers talking was miserable.

Never liked Bernstein.

I liked Larry Holmes on the Bear postgame show on TV. I liked the casualness of his evening show in doses.

Parkins has always been annoying to me. Thought Spiegel was fine talking baseball pre Cub.

I have been listening to Dan McNeil's new podcasts which are Bear/NFL focused and generally 40 minutes or so.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 08:52:27 PM
I didn’t care for him at first, but Parkins grew on me. He’s pretty good at his job. I do feel he needs someone like Spiegel to smooth his edges a bit.

I'm just too far gone at this point to listen to any Score  Way behind in my podcasts..
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 08:55:49 PM
I like Mully and Haugh, but I disagree with them often. And I let them know it through the text line. Bernstein has mellowed quite a bit. He’s great at his job. He and Holmes make a great pairing. Parkins and Spiegel are probably my favorite show, but to be honest, I kind of enjoy them the most when they are just riffing and barely talking sports.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 08:57:25 PM
Dan McNeil is a dinosaur and barely listenable. I was actually glad when they canned him. Part of me likes him, but that guy had been mailing it in for years.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 11, 2022, 08:59:58 PM
McNeil was only credible on football and hockey, and hockey talk makes me want to shoot myself in the face.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 09:29:30 PM
Dan McNeil is a dinosaur and barely listenable. I was actually glad when they canned him. Part of me likes him, but that guy had been mailing it in for years.

Yes, he was. Now he just talks about the Bear game and the other games around the league. There is some point spread talk and old sport talk radio stories sprinkled in. Like I said, it is usually only 40 to 50 minutes,  2x a week. Seems manageable for him to keep it interesting and moving at this point.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 11, 2022, 09:30:08 PM
McNeil was only credible on football and hockey, and hockey talk makes me want to shoot myself in the face.

Was hoping you would sign up for my ESPN Fantasy Hockey League, but oh well.

Good night for Ranger Mika Zibanejad.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 11, 2022, 10:25:59 PM
I want to bring back 2003 era Score.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 12, 2022, 08:43:04 AM
I want to bring back 2003 era Score.

The “glory days” of Mike North. Another dinosaur who far exceeded his talent. “Britney or JlLo? And face down or face up?” Sort of embarrassed I used to listen to him. Loved Unlce Douggie though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 12, 2022, 12:23:10 PM
Keystone Cops. Name me another team Mustipher, Patrick, and Braxton Jones all start together on.

https://twitter.com/sharpfootball/status/1579985287736066048?s=46&t=zynmCcfLUjZ2uLAzicZVOw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 03:24:54 PM
Tempo, what are our expectations for Bear WR N'Keal Harry tonight? Hopefully he will go out of bounce/protect the ball when need be tonight.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 07:19:10 PM
Loving the orange helmets.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 07:20:37 PM
Throw the fucking ball Fields!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 07:22:18 PM
Throw the fucking ball Fields!!

Getsys' fault. Kirk Herbstreit's fault.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 07:25:18 PM
Then he threw to a wide open receiver and it was nowhere close to the WR. He’s got a lot to work on.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 07:37:00 PM
Tempo, what are our expectations for Bear WR N'Keal Harry tonight? Hopefully he will go out of bounce/protect the ball when need be tonight.

Inactive
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 07:38:14 PM
Art doesn't even throw the ball off the D lineman's head.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 07:38:23 PM
Loving the orange helmets.

They’re hideous.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 07:38:39 PM
Good drive stopped by INT in the red zone. Terrible decision by Fields. He stared down Kmet and bounced it off a defenders helmet. Had a WR wide open in the top flat he never even looked at. Not going through progressions.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 07:42:54 PM
Ain’t nobody scared of Eddie Jackson “blasting” them 😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 07:49:55 PM
There’s my guy Herbert. Much better option than Montgomery.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 07:50:02 PM
Herbert = stud
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 07:52:37 PM
Damn Fields, what the fuck dude?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 07:53:53 PM
There’s my guy Herbert. Much better option than Montgomery.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 07:54:30 PM
Lol

Why’s that funny?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 07:55:07 PM
Or you just bored?

Definitely nothing to blame Getsy for so far. Great play calling, just terrible execution.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 13, 2022, 07:55:30 PM
I'm sure in 30 more starts, Fields will be able to hit a wide open receiver on a 10 yard pass.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 07:55:49 PM
NGL, even Mitch makes that easy completion for 6.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 13, 2022, 08:00:09 PM
That was a good run by Herbert wasted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 08:01:00 PM
That was a good run by Herbert wasted.

It’s the 🐻 way
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:03:51 PM
Inactive

Won't be able to blame him for anything
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:06:06 PM
I'm sure in 30 more starts, Fields will be able to hit a wide open receiver on a 10 yard pass.

Dare you to name 5,000 other QBs who could make that throw in their 15th or whatever start!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 13, 2022, 08:07:00 PM
Dare you to name 5,000 other QBs who could make that throw in their 15th or whatever start!

I know, pretty controversial take.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 08:07:26 PM
A halfway decent team (which the Bears are not) would be up 3 scores on the POS Washington Redskins/Football Team/Commanders by now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 08:07:49 PM
Another miss. Wide open crossing receiver for a first down. He makes up his mind before the snap. Completely ignores his progressions. That will need to change if he plans on having a future. Hopefully the game slows down for him soon. Even the announcers are pointing it out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:08:29 PM
Newsnation needs hot babes in low plunging shirts, not Chris Cuomo.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 08:09:00 PM
Another miss. Wide open crossing receiver for a first down. He makes up his mind before the snap. Completely ignores his progressions. That will need to change if he plans on having a future. Hopefully the game slows down for him soon. Even the announcers are pointing it out.

Not making excuses for Fields, he’s been bad this first half, but Tom Brady says he knows where he’s going with it pre-snap.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 08:09:54 PM
Newsnation needs hot babes in low plunging shirts, not Chris Cuomo.

Looks like TNF on Amazon Prime needs hot babes in low plunging shirts, not the Bears and Commander’s…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:10:28 PM
Not making excuses for Fields, he’s been bad this first half, but Tom Brady says he knows where he’s going with it pre-snap.

You are comparing Fiellds and Brady? Where is Spark????
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 08:10:58 PM
Not making excuses for Fields, he’s been bad this first half, but Tom Brady says he knows where he’s going with it pre-snap.

Well I’m glad we settled that!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:11:42 PM
Looks like TNF on Amazon Prime needs hot babes in low plunging shirts, not the Bears and Commander’s…

Yeah, maybe that babe who plays Marilyn Monroe, or is that The Netflix?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 08:12:37 PM
You are comparing Fiellds and Brady? Where is Spark????

No, dipshit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:12:42 PM
Well, won't have a shit Bear game on TV Sunday
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:13:56 PM
No, dipshit.

You just used them in the same sentence and  sure seemed like you were comparing how they both know where they are going with the ball pre snap
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:16:38 PM
Did he even know who he was throwing to there?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 08:17:56 PM
You just used them in the same sentence and  sure seemed like you were comparing how they both know where they are going with the ball pre snap

When did you become a total dipshit?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 08:20:15 PM
Fields has been dreadful tonight. And pretty much entirely his fault. Having said that, it’s far too early to give up on him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:20:26 PM
When did you become a total dipshit?
You just said that Tom Brady knows where he is throwing the ball pre snap just like Fields
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 13, 2022, 08:20:45 PM
How many years was Brady in the league before saying that ?
1st it was 14 games for Fields, then 20, then next year. Now it's how many years Brady had in ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 08:21:12 PM
You just said that Tom Brady knows where he is throwing the ball pre snap just like Fields

You are going out of your way to be a dipshit lately. Not a good look.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:25:48 PM
You are going out of your way to be a dipshit lately. Not a good look.


It could be worse. Fields could have as many starts as Wentz.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:38:43 PM
Well, that sucked
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 08:40:02 PM
JimRomeIsBurnt would be telling everyone that he and Al went to SuperDawg last night.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 13, 2022, 08:49:33 PM
Fields has been dreadful tonight. And pretty much entirely his fault. Having said that, it’s far too early to give up on him.

How are you going to be AOTC if you don't give up on him already?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 08:51:17 PM
By and large I think Getsy’s approach has improved a lot the last game and a half, but need to get Justin out of the pocket more. Straight drop backs play right into Washington’s hands.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 08:52:13 PM
Let’s start this half by turning them over.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 08:53:00 PM
Don't know what's worse. Justin Fields performance or that "attempt" at comedy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:00:05 PM
Lol Braxton Jones
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:00:57 PM
Nice 1st down catch and run by Velus.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:03:06 PM
There ya go. Designed rollout.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 09:04:03 PM
That was a nice throw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:04:15 PM
Fields is gonna die tonight.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 09:05:31 PM
Now that was a perfect throw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:06:36 PM
Piss poor production work there. They didn’t catch the play till the ball was in the air. I wasn’t even aware it had been snapped.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:10:38 PM
Sure, he’s not a finished product, but I don’t know how a Bears fan can trash Justin Fields so early in his career. Kid is tough, works hard, and has amazing tools. He’s gonna need more help and some time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:14:33 PM
Wanted Pickens with one of those 2nd round picks, but I think Brisker and Gordon are going to be nice players.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
Now that I think about it, Alec Pierce would be a great fit with Fields, too. Pierce can ball. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:17:30 PM
C’mon defense. Get the lead and let them march it right back down?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:18:27 PM
Fields makes an amazing deep TD pass (with a catch just as amazing) and this place goes dark.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 09:19:34 PM
I am excited about having so much cap space and high draft pick next year. If Pace does what they did in KC, we’ll be set up pretty nicely. As much money as we’ll have, it’s very intriguing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:21:16 PM
I’m old enough to remember when Robert Quinn was good.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:21:37 PM
I am excited about having so much cap space and high draft pick next year. If Pace does what they did in KC, we’ll be set up pretty nicely. As much money as we’ll have, it’s very intriguing.

Poles.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:22:22 PM
But yes, I’m excited to see what they can add. They need a lot, though. Like a ton. Need to nail the next couple drafts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 09:23:38 PM
I’m old enough to remember when Robert Quinn was good.

Stonewalled by Charles Leno. Ouch.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 13, 2022, 09:24:20 PM
Now that was a perfect throw

No QB with that few starts has ever made a throw that good.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 09:24:41 PM
Poles.

Oops, brain fart 😂 that’s what I meant
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:26:06 PM
Dead to rights, first down.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 09:27:37 PM
3rd and 1 to 4th and 14. Definitely can’t have that shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:28:21 PM
JFC. Getsy, WTF. Fields is getting killed and you drop him back on 3rd and 1? That’s one of the few times I’m thinking “please just run it.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 09:29:29 PM
No chance in hell when a guy is in your grill immediately. Even for a dynamic runner like Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:33:13 PM
I was really hoping they’d deal Quinn on draft day.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 13, 2022, 09:34:12 PM
Oof.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:34:19 PM
Nice job, gadget guy…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 09:34:45 PM
Another punt return drop by Jones Jr.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:34:51 PM
Did sand blow into his eye? JFC that was brutal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 09:35:07 PM
That's Poles boy right there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 09:35:35 PM
I was really hoping they’d deal Quinn on draft day.

Definitely should have. His value was never going to be higher than at that time. Right after a career year
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:35:39 PM
Another punt return drop by Jones Jr.

Did not like that pick. 6 years in college and had one decent year. That’s not the profile of a quality NFL player.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 09:36:00 PM
Maybe don't try catching a punt inside your own 10, champ.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:36:19 PM
Definitely should have. His value was never going to be higher than at that time. Right after a career year

Exactly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 09:36:54 PM
Did not like that pick. 6 years in college and had one decent year. That’s not the profile of a quality NFL player.

Being a little tough on the fella.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:37:22 PM
Two dropped punts in what, 3 games? That gets you cut if you’re not a recent 3rd round pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:38:08 PM
That might the worst drop I’ve ever seen. Falling to his knees and hits him right in the grill.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 09:38:21 PM
Being a little tough on the fella.

I was thinking he needed a few more attempts as well 😁
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 09:38:47 PM
Oof Roquan. You just let fucking Wentz body you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 09:38:56 PM
Wind is tough at Soldier
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 09:43:58 PM
Did not like that pick. 6 years in college and had one decent year. That’s not the profile of a quality NFL player.

Geez man. Show some respect for the elderly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:44:18 PM
Getsy is gonna get Fields killed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:44:51 PM
Stop dropping him straight back.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:47:30 PM
Jesus…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 09:47:42 PM
Of course Smith-Marsette is still on the team and of course he's once again playing crucial snaps.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 09:48:55 PM
Was going to be short anyway?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:50:28 PM
JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:50:42 PM
Oh well, higher draft pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:52:29 PM
Now we see why Minnesota cut Smith-Marsette. Nice sabotage drop by Minnesota.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 09:54:42 PM
Now we see why Minnesota cut Smith-Marsette. Nice sabotage drop by Minnesota.

3 really bad fumbles in 3 weeks for this squad.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 09:55:22 PM
If SM catches that ball it’s a first.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 09:55:47 PM
Maybe should have played N'Keal Harry
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 09:56:08 PM
Wouldn’t mind seeing the Bears try to get WR DJ Moore from Carolina if available and don’t have to give up too much.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 10:00:25 PM
Bears!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 10:00:48 PM
Nice scramble Fields!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 10:02:22 PM
Wouldn’t mind seeing the Bears try to get WR DJ Moore from Carolina if available and don’t have to give up too much.

I would LOVE that. Love his talent. He’s been a stud despite not having a good QB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 10:02:53 PM
Can you roll him the fuck out, please?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 10:04:09 PM
Pettis was mugged.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 13, 2022, 10:04:45 PM
Just a touch of PI
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 10:05:30 PM
Boy oh boy
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 13, 2022, 10:05:36 PM
Wow what a finish.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 13, 2022, 10:05:54 PM
That's 3 times when Wash had the wrong # of players on the field ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 10:06:30 PM
Brandon Marshall and Alshon score there…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 10:07:14 PM
Fuck you and see you next week.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 10:07:29 PM
Brandon Marshall and Alshon score there…

Are they even still in the league?

Would have liked to see the opposite angle.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 10:07:37 PM
Man, doesn’t get any closer than that. Good call.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 10:08:27 PM
Hated the playcalling last set of downs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 13, 2022, 10:08:54 PM
I forgot there was a Bears game tonight, lol. Sounds like I didn’t miss much.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 10:09:05 PM
How do you not roll Fields out and give him the 2nd option of running it in?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 10:09:43 PM
Are they even still in the league?

Would have liked to see the opposite angle.

It was clearly the right call after viewing the replay.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 10:09:54 PM
Hated the playcalling last set of downs.

Would have liked a run in there. Had enough time for at least one.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 13, 2022, 10:10:38 PM
3 trips inside the 5. Not a single score. Not one.

Bear down.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 10:10:44 PM
It was clearly the right call after viewing the replay.

Wanted to see where the defender's arm was
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 13, 2022, 10:11:11 PM
Wasn't even a catch. Elbow landed out of bounds.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 13, 2022, 10:20:34 PM
The announcers were not kind to the Bears offense post game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 10:51:23 PM
The announcers were not kind to the Bears offense post game.

Feel free to expound.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 13, 2022, 11:03:22 PM
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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 13, 2022, 11:40:59 PM
Text thread with a buddy of mine tonight before we watched the game downtown

(https://i.ibb.co/wWNswJc/E5-E26-F78-E731-4-A9-B-A498-FE52-FF7-A02-BF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cFcLCbY)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 13, 2022, 11:46:15 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/jScchyN1/293-F158-F-7694-4-C84-BA5-B-B932-CDFD718-B.png) (https://postimg.cc/LJqj9Yxk)screenshot studio (https://postimages.org/app)

Heard someone discuss how no one does this anymore and coaches just coach their "system" regardless of their roster. Probably was Lombardi.

Maybe Belichick is one who schemes based on his roster? Does that sound right? Anyone else?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 14, 2022, 06:52:10 AM
Feel free to expound.
It was a lot of what you've read here.
Your HonestNFL tweet is part of what was said, but this is nothing new. Drafting players to fit your system is one thing. Drafting players who don't fit your system, but trying to make them fit doesn't always work well.
Fields doesn't read his progressions and holds onto the ball too long.
He needs to work outside the pocket.
He's getting killed in the pocket, but he'll probably get killed outside the pocket too tho this wasn't said.
Getsy is calling plays to fit his system rather than Fields abilities.
And the best for last. The Bears couldn't score on their last possession because the playbook of plays they trust Fields with was empty. Ouch.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 07:49:03 AM
The Bears are worse than having a glitch on your Uber app.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 08:23:49 AM
The Bears are worse than having a glitch on your Uber app.

You’re a fucking creep.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 08:29:41 AM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 14, 2022, 08:51:03 AM
Lol
He didn't call you a dipshit tho, so you've got that going for you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 08:55:43 AM
Tom Thayer was on the score reiterating a lot of what I was saying. Way too many straight drops and not putting Fields in a position to succeed. That’s not to say Fields didn’t shoot himself in the foot on multiple occasions.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 08:56:14 AM
Lol

You seriously are a turd stain of a human.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 09:39:33 AM
He didn't call you a dipshit tho, so you've got that going for you.

Which is nice.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 09:41:53 AM
You seriously are a turd stain of a human.

Cool. 

I do love reading your twitter feed.  It's very entertaining.  Especially when you tweet at the CEO of Uber and tell him you're desperate and going broke.

Sorry, but that's fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 10:19:05 AM
Cool. 

I do love reading your twitter feed.  It's very entertaining.  Especially when you tweet at the CEO of Uber and tell him you're desperate and going broke.

Sorry, but that's fucking hilarious.

You’re a shit stain
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 10:25:23 AM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 10:29:01 AM
Lol

And you revel in that fact. Seriously, you’re a sick fuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 10:31:25 AM
You're hilarious.  Seriously.

I guess now we know why you're so bothered by people driving on suspended licenses.  Haha!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 10:33:39 AM
You're hilarious.  Seriously.

I guess now we know why you're so bothered by people driving on suspended licenses.  Haha!

If someone caved your face in you would no doubt deserve it
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 10:35:39 AM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 14, 2022, 11:10:37 AM
You’re a fucking creep.

Why is that creepy? I may not be up on the latest on how Uber is creepy.

Chump edit: now I understand what the deal is here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 11:14:14 AM
Why is that creepy? I may not be up on the latest on how Uber is creepy.

Chump edit: now I understand what the deal is here.

Your buddy Jobu is a stalker who doesn’t respect boundaries and shows no modicum level of decency.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 11:23:45 AM
Stalker.  lol

Dude.  You put it on the fucking internet.  How do you expect privacy when you put shit on the internet.

Jeez.

Oh well.  Continue on with calling people dipshits and then telling me that I'm sick.  Haha!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 11:26:24 AM
Stalker.  lol

Dude.  You put it on the fucking internet.  How do you expect privacy when you put shit on the internet.

Jeez.

Oh well.  Continue on with calling people dipshits and then telling me that I'm sick.  Haha!

“Dude, you didn’t close the blinds so I peeked in and have shared your personal photos with all my friends.”

I’m sure you just stumbled on ky tweet history by accident. You are a demented sick piece of shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 11:30:00 AM
I don’t know your name. I don’t stalk your Twitter feed, nor do I care to. And I wouldn’t review your tweets and take joy in your problems, because I am not a twisted piece of shit stalker.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 11:32:39 AM
“Dude, you didn’t close the blinds so I peeked in and have shared your personal photos with all my friends.”

I’m sure you just stumbled on ky tweet history by accident. You are a demented sick piece of shit.

I did stumble on your feed.  I was looking at comments on some dipshit tweet by Parkins, and there you were.  I didn't set out to look for you.  And it's not like you were hiding.  We look at some of the same shit.  Eventually, when you comment on shit like you do, you're easy to find.

And I don't look at your feed every day.  I have better things to do.  I just happened to peek yesterday, mostly because there was a Bears game (that I forgot about) and I wanted to see how much Justin Fields cock you were sucking.  I did "stumble" on the Uber stuff, and not gonna lie, I laughed my ass off.

So, Tempo.  How can you say you're desperate and going broke when you play fantasy football and bet on games, like all the time? Genuinely curious.

And, do you actually rely on Uber driving as your primary source of income? Hilarious if true.

If they don't fix their app, maybe you could drive for Lyft.  Or there's always Yellow Checker.  lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 11:33:59 AM
I don’t know your name. I don’t stalk your Twitter feed, nor do I care to. And I wouldn’t review your tweets and take joy in your problems, because I am not a twisted piece of shit stalker.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 11:36:27 AM
The guy who once started a profile with my full name and picture and linked my Twitter feed just sort of “stumbled” on to my Twitter feed this morning. You’re a sick piece of shit. I say this seriously, seek help.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 11:37:45 AM
And then of course, he was obligated to air my problems before all. Gleefully. You are a piece of shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 11:39:14 AM
The guy who once started a profile with my full name and picture and linked my Twitter feed just sort of “stumbled” on to my a Twitter feed this morning. You’re a sick prince of shit. I say this seriously, seek help.

Prince of shit
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 11:40:25 AM
And then of course, he was obligated to air my problems before all. Gleefully. You are a piece of shit.

You aired your problems before all.  It's on Twitter.  Do you think I'm the only one that looks at your feed?

And yes, I aired them out gleefully.  Because it's fucking hilarous.  Tweeting at the CEO of Uber.  That's fucking awesome.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 11:42:34 AM
Ok, I'm going back to work.  It's been fun, but I have stuff to do.

I would tell Tempo to go back to work, but...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 11:43:46 AM
You aired your problems before all.  It's on Twitter.  Do you think I'm the only one that looks at your feed?

And yes, I aired them out gleefully.  Because it's fucking hilarous.  Tweeting at the CEO of Uber.  That's fucking awesome.

Well, the 15 times I’ve been assured by support they were working on it didn’t work…and you are a pile of stinking shit human.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 14, 2022, 11:51:58 AM
Tempo, what exactly is the issue with Uber? They stiff you when driving or something? Maybe Calvin or I could help?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on October 14, 2022, 01:56:26 PM
Are they even still in the league?

Would have liked to see the opposite angle.

Alshon is in the league -- the IR league! Hahaha!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 14, 2022, 02:49:19 PM
I did stumble on your feed.  I was looking at comments on some dipshit tweet by Parkins, and there you were.  I didn't set out to look for you.  And it's not like you were hiding.  We look at some of the same shit.  Eventually, when you comment on shit like you do, you're easy to find.

And I don't look at your feed every day.  I have better things to do.  I just happened to peek yesterday, mostly because there was a Bears game (that I forgot about) and I wanted to see how much Justin Fields cock you were sucking.  I did "stumble" on the Uber stuff, and not gonna lie, I laughed my ass off.

So, Tempo.  How can you say you're desperate and going broke when you play fantasy football and bet on games, like all the time? Genuinely curious.

And, do you actually rely on Uber driving as your primary source of income? Hilarious if true.

If they don't fix their app, maybe you could drive for Lyft.  Or there's always Yellow Checker.  lol

😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 04:12:29 PM
Tempo, what exactly is the issue with Uber? They stiff you when driving or something? Maybe Calvin or I could help?

So, I’ve been driving Lyft/Uber for about 5 years. It got me out of a job I hated. I wanted more control over my life. I make my own hours. Have no boss. Spend a lot more time with my kid, and can make more than 2k in a solid week; sometimes without breaking a sweat.

My app has had a major glitch which has dramatically affected my ability to make money. I can get rides, but I’ll never make bonuses (which is what makes driving Uber worth it). I’ve been to the Hub a couple of times, they say they’ve never seen this problem before. I’ve contacted support at least a dozen times and they always give the “we’re so sorry to hear this, we’ve escalated the issue. Please check your email regularly for communication (the emails never come)” response.

I guess message board rivalries are real important life matters because apparently Jobu thinks it’s hilarious that I’m going broke over this. Pretty funny when a guy with a 7 year old to support has his income slashed for a stupid reason. I’m glad Jobu has reached such a high station in life that he’s amused and pleased by such occurrences. Apparently ‘97 thinks it’s hilarious, too. Can’t say I’m surprised. These sports message board rivalries are SERIOUS stuff.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 04:13:54 PM
Oh, and Jobu is a sick obsessed fuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 04:23:29 PM
Tempo, what exactly is the issue with Uber? They stiff you when driving or something? Maybe Calvin or I could help?

I appreciate the concern.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 04:34:38 PM
So, I’ve been driving Lyft/Uber for about 5 years. It got me out of a job I hated. I wanted more control over my life. I make my own hours. Have no boss. Spend a lot more time with my kid, and can make more than 2k in a solid week; sometimes without breaking a sweat.

My app has had a major glitch which has dramatically affected my ability to make money. I can get rides, but I’ll never make bonuses (which is what makes driving Uber worth it). I’ve been to the Hub a couple of times, they say they’ve never seen this problem before. I’ve contacted support at least a dozen times and they always give the “we’re so sorry to hear this, we’ve escalated the issue. Please check your email regularly for communication (the emails never come)” response.

I guess message board rivalries are real important life matters because apparently Jobu thinks it’s hilarious that I’m going broke over this. Pretty funny when a guy with a 7 year old to support has his income slashed for a stupid reason. I’m glad Jobu has reached such a high station in life that he’s amused and pleased by such occurrences. Apparently ‘97 thinks it’s hilarious, too. Can’t say I’m surprised. These sports message board rivalries are SERIOUS stuff.

I don't think it's hilarious that you're going broke.  It's hilarious that you announced that you're going broke on Twitter.  And you tweeted at the CEO, like he's gonna start writing code to fix your glitch.  That's hilarious.

So, are you still playing fantasy football and gambling your ass off? Maybe if you would have saved some of that money, you wouldn't be going broke.  Just a thought.

As far as rivalries, this is very much one sided.  I give zero fucks about you.  It's not serious stuff at all.  I've been laughing my ass off at you all day.  Keep up the name calling, tho.  That is also hilarious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 04:42:50 PM
Dude. You scroll my Twitter history. You clearly “give a fuck about me.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 04:44:36 PM
I’m just calling a spade a spade. You are one demented twisted piece of shit. I would never laugh at your real life misfortune. You know why? I’m not a shit stain of a human being.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 04:45:55 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 04:57:55 PM
Dude. You scroll my Twitter history. You clearly “give a fuck about me.”

I look at your feed (not that often, really) for comedy. It’s funny when you comment at people that piss you off and call them names.

Believe me, I really couldn’t care less about you. It’s all for laughs.

They’ll fix your god damn app. Jesus. It’s gotta be fixable. It’s not like your fucking house burned down. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 05:03:41 PM
Well it’s been 5 weeks. And they’ve told me 15x they’ve “escalated the issue.” I’m starting to think they’re lying…

I do think it’s funny you claim to give “zero fucks about me,” yet occasionally stroll my Twitter feed and use my name and likeness to create profiles. Knowing you you’ve probably posted my stuff to gay sex sites.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 05:05:17 PM
What am I up to on Facebook? No doubt you’ve checked it out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 14, 2022, 05:07:52 PM
Hey Tempo, take peace in that you haven’t been accused of raping your said kid…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 05:26:25 PM
Well it’s been 5 weeks. And they’ve told me 15x they’ve “escalated the issue.” I’m starting to think they’re lying…

I do think it’s funny you claim to give “zero fucks about me,” yet occasionally stroll my Twitter feed and use my name and likeness to create profiles. Knowing you you’ve probably posted my stuff to gay sex sites.

Hadn’t thought of that, lol. As funny as that would be, I wouldn’t do that.  And I’m not on Facebook. Facebook sucks dick.

PA Man offered to help you out. Maybe he can scare the shit out of them with some legal threats. Worth considering.

It’s amazing to me that he’s willing to help you at all, given that you called him a dipshit at least twice in the last 24 hours. But I’m the one with the problems, according to Dr. Tempo, psychiatrist and diamond Uber driver.

I honestly thought Uber driving is what people did to get extra spending money. I had no clue people did that shit full time, lol.

I’m confident your app will get fixed, and you’ll be pissing money away on DFS and gambling in no time. Keep the faith.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 14, 2022, 06:20:52 PM
If I wasn't a dipshit, I might delete the app and start from scratch. Or if it was my source of income, get a new phone.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 06:28:57 PM
Pretty sure I’ve been called worse than dipshit on here multiple times by multiple people. Unlike some others, I don’t take the overwhelmingly majority of what’s said here that seriously. Especially stuff in the sports forums. PAMan is a dipshit I’d be willing to have a beer with, and he knows that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 06:36:41 PM
TBH, I never used to name call here at all. Not really sure when I started. Wouldn’t say I’m proud of it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 14, 2022, 07:49:40 PM
I love a good old fashioned Tempo/Jobu lovers quarrel.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 08:18:29 PM
I love a good old fashioned Tempo/Jobu lovers quarrel.

It’s a love/hate relationship. He hates me. I love him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 14, 2022, 08:42:22 PM
PAMan is a dipshit I’d be willing to have a beer with, and he knows that.

Yeah, I'm a dipshit. Maybe we can go to a Bear game in December when no one is going anymore. Betting JeffFrank would go with us.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 14, 2022, 08:49:42 PM
Yeah, I'm a dipshit. Maybe we can go to a Bear game in December when no one is going anymore. Betting JeffFrank would go with us.

If he doesn’t get his app fixed, you’ll have to buy his ticket.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 10:48:27 PM
Keep it classy, Jobu.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 14, 2022, 10:49:16 PM
Yeah, I'm a dipshit. Maybe we can go to a Bear game in December when no one is going anymore. Betting JeffFrank would go with us.

If it doesn’t interfere with a concert he would.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2022, 08:33:58 AM
Some really good stuff here. I agree with:

1) Fields threw 2 potential game winning TDs to the hands of the receivers.

2) Mooney is a 2b

3) Heard a couple other former pros criticize Griffin’s route/running. I still think Justin has to make that throw, however.

4) Fields’ margin for error is practically zero given what’s around him.

5) play-calling last set of downs was bad.


 https://youtu.be/LCjT4_17Tjo

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2022, 11:18:42 PM
https://youtu.be/a1my5k6KBZU
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 18, 2022, 12:09:45 PM
Ihmir Smith-Marsette is a former Bear.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 18, 2022, 12:12:37 PM
Ihmir Smith-Marsette is a former Bear.

Good. He already cost them 2 games. He needs to stay the fuck away from the Bears lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 20, 2022, 11:06:35 AM
Long, but good and fair analysis on Bears’ passing game from Kurt Warner.

https://youtu.be/2l57CMi-yZE
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 20, 2022, 02:51:34 PM
https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-bears/bears-effort-to-evaluate-fields-being-done-in-bad-faith?fbclid=IwAR0W2tw6vn36xwyJ0d1kDPMdRxVhiW-CRXFfrwCUDz5QXtYtmYTta5akcyk

Can’t say I find any fault with this article.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 20, 2022, 08:20:59 PM
https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-bears/bears-effort-to-evaluate-fields-being-done-in-bad-faith?fbclid=IwAR0W2tw6vn36xwyJ0d1kDPMdRxVhiW-CRXFfrwCUDz5QXtYtmYTta5akcyk

Can’t say I find any fault with this article.

Watched the video of the conversation that may be the genesis of the article. Not sure I agree that a similarly situated Poles drafted QB would not be playing with this line. Year 2 you're generally expected to play, don't you think?

I hope the kid turns it around and can be a good consistent QB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 20, 2022, 08:30:38 PM
Reasonable minds can see things differently, but it’s fair to question with the utter lack of resources spent on the offense. Would Poles let Bryce Young deal with a rookie 5th round LT? It’s fair to question.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 20, 2022, 08:48:30 PM
Reasonable minds can see things differently, but it’s fair to question with the utter lack of resources spent on the offense. Would Poles let Bryce Young deal with a rookie 5th round LT? It’s fair to question.

2d year, he probably would have to.

Hey, at least Fields is better than Andy Dalton.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 20, 2022, 10:45:14 PM
2d year, he probably would have to.

Hey, at least Fields is better than Andy Dalton.

Matt Nagy says watch yo mouf.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 22, 2022, 12:41:33 AM
Kurt Warner video #2

https://youtu.be/Czci50oF8Ms
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 22, 2022, 06:52:54 AM
Didn't watch all of them. But looking like Getsy is drawing up plays where guys get open and he is either too hesitant (or lacking trust, in Warner's words), his arm angle does not align with his footwork,  or the line falters.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 07:45:59 PM
Nice drive. I was thinking, keeping his eyes down field on the 20 yard pass. Troy Aikman then agreed. Then I thought, he's going through his progressions! Again Troy Ailman agreed. I have been AOTC on Troy Aikman's analysis. He did have a few concussions.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:05:26 PM
Didn't zip the ball in there and then took a sack (and fumbled)..Ugh.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 24, 2022, 08:08:02 PM
Didn't zip the ball in there and then took a sack (and fumbled)..Ugh.

Just needs a few more starts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:09:49 PM
Just needs a few more starts.

Meanwhile,  Bailey Zappe is going to kick the Bears ass now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:21:24 PM
Well, this game is over. Zappe >>> Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 08:22:14 PM
Jaylon Johnson having a rough game
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 08:23:05 PM
Bears’ defense went to shit in a heartbeat. Roquan got hooked by the tackle. That was way too easy of a TD for Stevenson.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 08:23:44 PM
Defense looked really good in the 1st quarter. Looked like high schoolers last two drives.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:24:30 PM
Defense looked really good in the 1st quarter. Looked like high schoolers last two drives.

Zappe putting the ball where it has to be and not getting knocked down by linemen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 08:26:01 PM
Mac Jones in the process of getting Brady'd.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:26:38 PM
Leave Judge Judy's guy in
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 08:27:29 PM
Zappe putting the ball where it has to be and not getting knocked down by linemen.

The touchdown pass is one I could have made. He was open by 7-8 yards
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 08:28:22 PM
Manning brothers seem to be actively rooting for Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:28:41 PM
The touchdown pass is one I could have made. He was open by 7-8 yards

You could have made the one to Griffin the other week too. Fields couldn't.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:29:29 PM
Manning brothers seem to be actively rooting for Fields.

I would think they don't want a Pats blowout now that Zappe is in
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 08:31:11 PM
You could have made the one to Griffin the other week too. Fields couldn't.

Cut him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:32:23 PM
Cut him.

Surprised they didn't cut Griffin after his route on that play was criticized!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:33:26 PM
Judge Judy's guy!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 08:33:44 PM
Blitz beater. Getsy is finally learning.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 08:34:53 PM
Getsy is calling a pretty good game. No complaints so far.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 08:37:01 PM
How you can watch Fields do that and not be rooting for him is beyond me. Kid is tough as nails. That’s my quarterback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:37:26 PM
Getsy is calling a pretty good game. No complaints so far.

You watch all those Fields analysis videos on The YouTube and guys are wide open on 98% of the plays they show.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 08:37:48 PM
Momentum swings back to the Bears
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:38:19 PM
How you can watch Fields do that and not be rooting for him is beyond me. Kid is tough as nails. That’s my quarterback.

Lovie Tempo: Justin is my quarterback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 08:39:47 PM
Can't take that sack, Justin.

EDIT: But he can fucking do that!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:39:58 PM
Can't take a sack there
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 08:43:09 PM
I guess "block Matthew Judon" wasn't in the game plan tonight.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:46:39 PM
Well, didn't expect a 6 point lead at half.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 08:50:22 PM
You watch all those Fields analysis videos on The YouTube and guys are wide open on 98% of the plays they show.

Seriously. Can it. Your Fields schtick is annoying. By the way, they just scored 20 points in one half. Primarily due to Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 08:52:22 PM
20 points in the half and none came from defensive scores or special teams.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:58:53 PM
Seriously. Can it. Your Fields schtick is annoying. By the way, they just scored 20 points in one half. Primarily due to Fields.

Can blame Getsy for not tailoring the offense to Fields' and the line's skills (or lack thereof), but guys are open.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 08:59:48 PM
Seriously. Can it. Your Fields schtick is annoying. By the way, they just scored 20 points in one half. Primarily due to Fields.

And we are seeing why the Pat's are 3-3.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 09:01:47 PM
Woukd be nice to turn Belichick's end of the half/start of the 3rd quarter scoring thing against him here
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 09:02:51 PM
Getsy!!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 09:14:44 PM
Not a single player on this roster can field a punt cleanly?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 09:16:16 PM
That’s supposed to be the one thing Pettis can do. It is slick out there tonight though, in his defense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 09:17:07 PM
Up 9 and now Getsy is pass happy. Run the damn ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 24, 2022, 09:17:35 PM
Didn’t even realize the Bears were playing tonight until I saw this thread.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 09:19:20 PM
Cole Kmet did something!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 09:23:20 PM
Cole Kmet did something!

Even then he thought he was out of bounds.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 09:24:19 PM
Didn’t even realize the Bears were playing tonight until I saw this thread.

Tempo can do the "Hey Custard, Bears play..." threads each week
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 09:25:21 PM
Even then he thought he was out of bounds.

Even he thought it was too good to be true lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 09:31:47 PM
Defense!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 09:33:16 PM
Bulls won. Make it a Boston sweep!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 09:33:20 PM
I’d be ok if they ran it 95% of the time from here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 09:37:20 PM
Didn’t even realize the Bears were playing tonight until I saw this thread.

You’ve missed Fields’ best overall game. Of course, he’s not in the HOF yet so PAMan thinks he sucks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 09:38:00 PM
I’d be ok if they ran it 95% of the time from here.

As long as they keep scoring. Seems like the D is rattling Zippy Zappe.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 09:43:21 PM
It was all Brady....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 09:43:50 PM
33 points? The Bears offense?

We're living in some crazy ass times.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 09:44:28 PM
As long as they keep scoring. Seems like the D is rattling Zippy Zappe.

I thought Zappe was the GOAT.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 09:45:29 PM
It was all Brady....

Wouldn’t go that far, but Brady knew when to bolt. Double duty as GM/HC has caught up to Belichick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 09:45:34 PM
I thought Zappe was the GOAT.

Eberlose got in his head!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 24, 2022, 09:45:46 PM
Bears gonna win just enough games to get an irrelevant draft pick. Kewl.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 09:46:16 PM
Easily Luke Getsy's best game as a play caller. I hope he finally figured some things out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 09:47:45 PM
Bears gonna win just enough games to get an irrelevant draft pick. Kewl.

Yeah, that’s the downside. But nice to see Fields playing like a difference maker for an entire game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 09:48:00 PM
Easily Luke Getsy's best game as a play caller. I hope he finally figured some things out.

For sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 09:48:46 PM
Hope we can still get a top 5 pick. Or nail it at 8.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 09:53:09 PM
Alright. Put in Siemian now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 09:59:34 PM
Hard to believe this is the same team that lost to the Commies
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 10:06:33 PM
Can’t believe the great Bailey Zappe lost to a bum like Justin Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 10:08:23 PM
Can’t believe the great Bailey Zappe lost to a bum like Justin Fields.

Bears D >>>> Pats D obviously.

Ron Rivera obviously better than a Brady-less Belichick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 10:12:01 PM
Love how the Mannings want the Bear to run it up on Belichick
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: illinifan57 on October 24, 2022, 10:13:07 PM
33 points? The Bears offense?

We're living in some crazy ass times.
I thought ESPN was showing a Bears game from 1985
Good to see them play a good game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 10:14:11 PM
Have to question Belichick for making Fields look good. The Pats guys I know are livid.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 10:42:01 PM
11/18 on 3rd down

That'll win you a lot of games.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 24, 2022, 10:46:56 PM
Also the Bears first ever win in Foxborough
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2022, 11:04:17 PM
Outside of Fields having his best game from start to finish, the big story is the coaching staff clearly made some good adjustments with the extra few days off. Good self-scouting and sensible adjustments are something we pretty much never saw from the previous regime. Still think I’d rather have Daboll, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2022, 11:25:52 PM
Outside of Fields having his best game from start to finish, the big story is the coaching staff clearly made some good adjustments with the extra few days off. Good self-scouting and sensible adjustments are something we pretty much never saw from the previous regime. Still think I’d rather have Daboll, though.

Need consistency out of everyone,  including the coaching staff. Hopefully they can handle Dallas on short rest.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 25, 2022, 07:39:09 AM
Fields was Jekyll and Hyde there for awhile, but put together an overall very solid game. Actually a fun game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on October 25, 2022, 08:57:52 AM
Have to question Belichick for making Fields look good. The Pats guys I know are livid.

On ESPN this morning, all of the Patriots cheerleaders disguised as media members were pouting. It was even funnier than I thought it would be. The turmoil about Mac Jones is especially entertaining. After all, he's a former SEC player AND a Patriot! How do we spin THIS? Hahahaha! Quite fun and nowhere close to over.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on October 25, 2022, 09:02:16 AM
Love how the Mannings want the Bear to run it up on Belichick

That was also hilarious. I think Eli qualified his statement by saying he had Montgomery in his fantasy league.

That part of the broadcast was a little jumbled. They were talking to Vince Vaughn, who was way more entertaining than I thought he would be, or perhaps it was the side attraction of the Patriots getting pwned. Anyway, he tried to start a conversation with Eli, but Peyton (the thinking man of that Algonquin gathering) knew they had to cut to a commercial and dump Vince from the session, so he abruptly ended the dialogue.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2022, 03:06:44 PM
Bob Quinn, he gone!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 26, 2022, 03:09:44 PM
Fourth rounder. Not bad at all.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2022, 03:13:54 PM
Fourth rounder. Not bad at all.

Who is paying what is the key, no?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 26, 2022, 06:38:32 PM
Bears trade Quinn. Still got good damn value for him. A 4th rounder was way more than I expected they’d get honestly…

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34884040/chicago-bears-trading-de-robert-quinn-eagles
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 27, 2022, 09:09:16 PM
Fourth rounder. Not bad at all.

Really late 4th rounder. So almost a 5th. They should have traded him draft day (if they could have) and maybe gotten a 3rd.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 27, 2022, 09:12:32 PM
Bears trade Quinn. Still got good damn value for him. A 4th rounder was way more than I expected they’d get honestly…

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34884040/chicago-bears-trading-de-robert-quinn-eagles

It’s what I’d at least hope you would get for a guy with 18.5 sacks the previous year. Yes, he’s kind of old, but we’ve seen teams selling out to win now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 27, 2022, 09:37:24 PM
Being a little hard on Poles for not being AOTC on Quinn,  aren't you, Tempo?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 27, 2022, 10:06:53 PM
How could one not be “AOTC” on Quinn? He clearly didn’t fit in the timeline of the Bears’ long term picture, and was coming off an 18.5 sack year. Trading him at peak value should have been a no-brainer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 27, 2022, 10:08:24 PM
Of course, it’s possible this was peak value all along; but I think they could have gotten more on draft day (possibly). One thing is for sure, a mediocre at best start to this year didn’t increase his value.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2022, 10:34:13 AM
I missed your posts calling for him being traded.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2022, 06:37:43 PM
It’s on page 1 of the draft thread.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2022, 06:41:50 PM
Also on page 3. I was also critical of the Velus Jones pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2022, 06:49:01 PM
I hope that the word DJ Moore is available is true, and the Bears go get him. He’s a top 15 talent at the position IMO. Deebo Samuel lite IMO.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 28, 2022, 07:08:12 PM
I hope that the word DJ Moore is available is true, and the Bears go get him. He’s a top 15 talent at the position IMO. Deebo Samuel lite IMO.

I second this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2022, 09:30:02 PM
It’s on page 1 of the draft thread.

But you didn't know what they could get for him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2022, 10:12:36 PM
But you didn't know what they could get for him.

On draft day, I thought maybe a 3. After his slow start this year, it went down to a late 4th.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 29, 2022, 06:47:55 AM
On draft day, I thought maybe a 3. After his slow start this year, it went down to a late 4th.

I thought so too, but we don’t know if that was ever even offered. Just our own wants/wishes/speculation.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 29, 2022, 08:40:10 AM
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/28/bears-cowboys-micah-parsons-says-hes-faster-than-justin-fields-week-8/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3_BW9zTWtt-a5kF_fdGXIyrvbAAND3s8Vxsvg-oKWnvPGRHO-9gAEGhis
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 29, 2022, 08:50:44 AM
I thought so too, but we don’t know if that was ever even offered. Just our own wants/wishes/speculation.

I doubt it was offered, I’d have been shopping him though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 29, 2022, 08:53:28 AM
I doubt it was offered, I’d have been shopping him though.

I’m sure he was, just not publicly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 30, 2022, 12:23:09 PM
Oh boy. Ass whooping coming right up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 30, 2022, 03:36:22 PM
I don’t miss Eddie Piniero.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 31, 2022, 02:31:41 PM
Roquan.... He gawn!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 31, 2022, 02:49:03 PM
Not sure if Poles will be successful, but I like the aggressiveness.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 31, 2022, 02:50:40 PM
2nd a 5th, sounds about right to me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 31, 2022, 03:06:07 PM
Good luck to him on getting paid.  Glad the Bears aren't doing it.

This tank is now in full effect.  That front 7 might be the worst I've ever seen. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 31, 2022, 04:17:40 PM
Roquan is good but was never a franchise changing talent.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 31, 2022, 04:18:31 PM
I’m ok with saving the 100 million.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 31, 2022, 04:19:16 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing them flip that 2nd they just got for a stud wideout.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 31, 2022, 04:23:58 PM
I’m ok with saving the 100 million.

They are paying his salary, for the most part, this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ridingthegrange on October 31, 2022, 04:37:09 PM
Shefter, just on the airwaves here, said there's a first round pick on the table for Bradley Chubb.  We kinda need the pix here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 31, 2022, 07:42:04 PM
Hearing rumors of maybe Montgomery to the Bills… 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 31, 2022, 07:57:55 PM
They are paying his salary, for the most part, this year.

But they are not paying him $100 million going forward.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 31, 2022, 07:58:41 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing them flip that 2nd they just got for a stud wideout.

I’d spend it on DJ Moore.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 31, 2022, 09:34:19 PM
But they are not paying him $100 million going forward.

They were not going to re-sign him. We knew that already.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 01, 2022, 12:56:03 PM
Chase Claypool to the Bears.  Sounds like it's for the 2nd round pick they got for Roquan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 01, 2022, 02:09:46 PM
Chase Claypool to the Bears.  Sounds like it's for the 2nd round pick they got for Roquan.

It’s the Bears pick.

There’s your NFL caliber receiver, Justin.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 01, 2022, 02:13:17 PM
It’s the Bears pick.

There’s your NFL caliber receiver, Justin.

Oh.  Well, I don't like that quite as much. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 01, 2022, 02:13:35 PM
Chase Claypool to the Bears.  Sounds like it's for the 2nd round pick they got for Roquan.

I like the pickup. He’s young, has all the size/intangibles, production, and good contract. Even if it is for their own 2nd rounder.

Good job, Poles.

Edit- it appears that ESPN doesn’t agree with me 😂 giving the Bears a D- grade 😬

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/34810737/nfl-trade-grades-report-cards-rankings-biggest-2022-deadline-deals-how-team-did
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 01, 2022, 02:30:12 PM
I like the pickup. He’s young, has all the size/intangibles, production, and good contract. Even if it is for their own 2nd rounder.

Good job, Poles.

I’m betting they had to throw in their own 2nd to keep him away from the Packers.😄

I’m with you. They had to give Fields some help. This is a big step forward in that direction.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 01, 2022, 02:32:56 PM
I’m betting they had to throw in their own 2nd to keep him away from the Packers.😄

I’m with you. They had to give Fields some help. This is a big step forward in that direction.

If all else fails you get to see what Fields can do with a legit receiver for this year and next. Doesn’t work then well you’re not obligated any after that. He’s only barely 24 too. Nobody is saying he HAS to be a #1 in the future but he currently will be. Bears can even add a stud WR in the draft over him. Again, I like the move.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 01, 2022, 03:41:58 PM
Rumor has it the Bears are looking to unload Fields if they can get Ian Book 1st.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 01, 2022, 04:11:10 PM
They got bent over if that’s the case. I like Claypool’s talent, but he’s a knucklehead. I really hope it wasn’t a 2nd rounder.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 01, 2022, 04:14:26 PM
I can’t believe they had to give up a 2nd to get Chase Claypool. Too much IMO.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 01, 2022, 04:17:45 PM
I am seriously pissed about this. They apparently gave up a pick likely to be higher than he was even drafted, for Pittsburgh’s #3 WR.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ridingthegrange on November 01, 2022, 04:21:02 PM
I’m betting they had to throw in their own 2nd to keep him away from the Packers.😄

I’m with you. They had to give Fields some help. This is a big step forward in that direction.

I disagree.  While I like the fact that they're willing to trade some picks for proven players, I think he's the wrong guy.  He's unhappy in Pittsburgh because not enough targets.  Don't think he'll see more here.  Why do you think the Steelers drafted Pickens? He's a problem for the locker room and off the field as well.  Fields needs help but I'm not sure how much this will help. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 01, 2022, 04:24:42 PM
I disagree.  While I like the fact that they're willing to trade some picks for proven players, I think he's the wrong guy.  He's unhappy in Pittsburgh because not enough targets.  Don't think he'll see more here.  Why do you think the Steelers drafted Pickens? He's a problem for the locker room and off the field as well.  Fields needs help but I'm not sure how much this will help.

Agreed. I absolutely hate this pickup. Especially for the price. He should have been a 4th at most IMO.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 01, 2022, 04:26:19 PM
Agreed. I absolutely hate this pickup. Especially for the price. He should have been a 4th at most IMO.

Yeah, he's a turd.  Well documented.  High price for him.

I was all for using the Roquan 2nd to get a stud wideout.  But not Claypool.  And especially not for the actual 2nd the Bears have.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 01, 2022, 05:01:51 PM
This, I guess…would have been very happy with DJ Moore for that pick.

https://twitter.com/dannyparkins/status/1587541815267311619?s=46&t=f1bN5gdOLi3TzYixifPANA
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 01, 2022, 05:05:30 PM
If they want to support Fields with "talent," Poles should be getting linemen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 01, 2022, 05:13:10 PM
I am seriously pissed they gave up their high 2 for Claypool. He’d better work out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 01, 2022, 07:02:39 PM
Seems like a risky move.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 01, 2022, 07:31:22 PM
Seems like a risky move.

You’re capable of much better.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 01, 2022, 07:44:35 PM
Just hate giving up a high 2nd for Pittsburgh’s #3 receiver. DK Metcalf and AJ Brown were 2nd rounders.

If Claypool isn’t a difference maker for us, that pick could have been used on the best Center in the draft, or a high end RT or starting DL or LB. We have a lot of needs to be spending our highest picks on reclamation projects.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 01, 2022, 07:45:09 PM
Having said that, he is talented. Just seems like a Ryan Pace move.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 01, 2022, 08:13:33 PM
Ok, have had a few hours to get over the fact they probably overpaid. Will try to focus on the potential, which is considerable. Would feel better if he wasn’t known to have maturity issues. I hope he has a valid drivers license.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 01, 2022, 08:18:37 PM
I hope he has a valid drivers license.

Now that's funny.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 01, 2022, 08:19:28 PM
You’re capable of much better.

You sure about that?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 02, 2022, 11:14:53 AM
Ok, have had a few hours to get over the fact they probably overpaid. Will try to focus on the potential, which is considerable. Would feel better if he wasn’t known to have maturity issues. I hope he has a valid drivers license.

Awesome.  Parkins said he liked the move, so now Tempo has softened his stance.  Lol

I also hope he has a valid drivers license.  But I'm guessing he doesn't.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 02, 2022, 11:45:34 AM
Awesome.  Parkins said he liked the move, so now Tempo has softened his stance.  Lol

I was going to point this out as well. You’re AOTC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 02, 2022, 11:51:37 AM
Awesome.  Parkins said he liked the move, so now Tempo has softened his stance.  Lol

I also hope he has a valid drivers license.  But I'm guessing he doesn't.
If he doesn't, he can always Uber.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 02, 2022, 01:05:21 PM
Just saw Claypool is going to wear #10.  Jesus fucking Christ.  So disrespectful to the inaugural NVP, Mitchell Trubisky.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on November 02, 2022, 01:55:02 PM
I like the pickup. He’s young, has all the size/intangibles, production, and good contract. Even if it is for their own 2nd rounder.

Good job, Poles.

Edit- it appears that ESPN doesn’t agree with me 😂 giving the Bears a D- grade 😬

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/34810737/nfl-trade-grades-report-cards-rankings-biggest-2022-deadline-deals-how-team-did

Can't access ESPN-minus, and I refuse to give those fucks any $ to be able to access it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 02, 2022, 02:18:24 PM
He's unhappy in Pittsburgh because not enough targets. Don't think he'll see more here.

Have you seen the Bears receiving corp? He’ll see plenty more targets here. At least I hope.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 02, 2022, 02:30:03 PM
Have you seen the Bears receiving corp? He’ll see plenty more targets here. At least I hope.

Maybe he will be targeted for all 23 pass attempts in a 20 point loss....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 02, 2022, 02:40:10 PM
Have you seen the Bears receiving corp? He’ll see plenty more targets here. At least I hope.

We thought the same about Mooney as well 😬
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 02, 2022, 04:23:32 PM
Awesome.  Parkins said he liked the move, so now Tempo has softened his stance.  Lol



Sure thing, chief.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 02, 2022, 04:29:24 PM
It comes down to this for me. Claypool is probably better than any 2nd round WR in the last two years, at least to this point. He’s clearly talented. Don’t like that he has the reputation of being a knucklehead. I still think they overpaid, but with GB offering a 2 and a weak free agent class upcoming, I guess that’s the price.

This move could help unlock Mooney, too. Mooney can go back to the slot, where he should be more successful. I just hope Poles asked to see his drivers license.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 02, 2022, 04:34:12 PM
Maybe he will be targeted for all 23 pass attempts in a 20 point loss....

Jesus, dude. You’re like Rosie from Point Break.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 02, 2022, 05:11:38 PM
Sure thing, chief.

Did you, or did you not, see Parkins' take before you posted your change in reflection on the trade post?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 02, 2022, 06:20:38 PM
Did you, or did you not, see Parkins' take before you posted your change in reflection on the trade post?

I didn’t listen to the show at all yesterday. So I don’t know what their full takes were. I did get additional information I wasn’t privy to when I first heard the news. So after absorbing the initial sticker shock, I came to the conclusion I didn’t hate the trade as much.

Parkins was hugging Nagy’s nuts long after I was out on Nagy. Parkins is probably my least favorite daytime host at the Score. I rather enjoy it sometimes when he’s not there. But I’m also glad when he’s back. It’s nice to have a “Parkins break” occasionally.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 02, 2022, 06:31:12 PM
Did you, or did you not, see Parkins' take before you posted your change in reflection on the trade post?

I also posted that I still hated the trade after posting the Parkins tweet. So clearly, that wasn’t my immediate tipping point.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 02, 2022, 06:32:45 PM
I did hear a couple of other opinions that swayed me some, like Stacy Dales made a good argument for the trade. I guess I just jump on board with whatever Stacy Dales says…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 02, 2022, 07:14:40 PM
Don't target Grandpa Jones anymore now please.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 02, 2022, 10:55:32 PM
Tempo tl;dr: yes, I changed my opinion after reading Parkins' and someother guy's opinions.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 03, 2022, 12:38:04 AM
(https://media.tenor.com/h2qZEYz_AdcAAAAM/yikes-monkey-look-and-leave-yikes-monkey.gif)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 03, 2022, 03:12:51 AM
Not quite following. Am I expected to stick to my original position after being presented with convincing arguments and new information?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 03, 2022, 06:56:36 AM
🦜
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 03, 2022, 07:44:10 AM
It's kinda like on those stupid shows, where Shannon and Skip each have to pick a side and argue like a couple of children.

Tempo initially picked the wrong side, then clumsily flipped.  lol

If Parkins hates Chase Claypool, Tempo hates Chase Claypool. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 03, 2022, 07:53:02 AM
Not quite following. Am I expected to stick to my original position after being presented with convincing arguments and new information?

No. The question was Parkins' specific since we all know you like Parkins' takes.

It is ok that Parkins' persuaded you to change your view.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 03, 2022, 07:54:12 AM
Jesus, dude. You’re like Rosie from Point Break.

Didn't see this movie. Presuming it is a movie reference.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 03, 2022, 07:57:53 AM
Didn't see this movie. Presuming it is a movie reference.

You didn't see Point Break? Patrick Swayze as a genius leader of a gang of bank robbers/surfers/adrenaline junkies? Damn.  Pretty decent movie.

The plot and the whole premise is incredibly stupid, but it has cool stuff in it.  Oh and Keanu Reeves.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 03, 2022, 07:59:46 AM
You didn't see Point Break? Patrick Swayze as a genius leader of a gang of bank robbers/surfers/adrenaline junkies? Damn.  Pretty decent movie.

The plot and the whole premise is incredibly stupid, but it has cool stuff in it.  Oh and Keanu Reeves.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on November 03, 2022, 08:24:16 AM
Rosie was a little known character. He didn't seem to surf or skydive, but evidently was a stone cold killer and friend of Bodhi. He built the fire on the beach. And kidnapped bitches.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on November 03, 2022, 09:17:14 AM
I liked Point Break. The scene at the bank where Gary Busey is chewing out John McGinley is pure gold.

Of course, Busey is full-on crazy today, but we can still recall the magic of 1991.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 03, 2022, 10:05:29 AM
You guys are children.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 03, 2022, 10:06:56 AM
It's kinda like on those stupid shows, where Shannon and Skip each have to pick a side and argue like a couple of children.

Tempo initially picked the wrong side, then clumsily flipped.  lol

If Parkins hates Chase Claypool, Tempo hates Chase Claypool.

Again, why didn’t I love Nagy then? Parkins loved Nagy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 03, 2022, 10:10:18 AM
No. The question was Parkins' specific since we all know you like Parkins' takes.

It is ok that Parkins' persuaded you to change your view.

Again, literally all I’ve heard or seen from Parkins since the trade was that tweet. If Parkins was that influential over me, I wouldn’t have still posted about how much I disliked it after posting his tweet.

Again, you guys are children.

After learning the Packers were going to give a 2nd, looking at WRs drafted in round 2, and learning that the FA class next year is weak, it didn’t smell quite as bad. I still don’t love the deal. But if his drivers license is valid, it’s a big plus.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 03, 2022, 10:12:34 AM
And again, I hadn’t stopped to consider that this allows Mooney to line up in the slot, which should benefit him and the offense. Also, it’s a move that suggests Poles is pleased with Fields’ progress.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 03, 2022, 10:14:41 AM
Didn't see this movie. Presuming it is a movie reference.

You didn’t see Point Break? Iconic 90s movie. Rosie was a simpleton who once you set him in motion there was no turning him off.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 03, 2022, 10:15:57 AM
I’d probably put Point Break in my top 10 all-time “guy movies.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 03, 2022, 10:57:29 AM
I’d probably put Point Break in my top 10 all-time “guy movies.”

Because someone has to ask.... Does Parkins have it as a Top 10 Guy Movie?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 03, 2022, 10:58:10 AM
You guys are children.

Been called a lot worse!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 03, 2022, 10:59:10 AM
Because someone has to ask.... Does Parkins have it as a Top 10 Guy Movie?

😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 03, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
Because someone has to ask.... Does Parkins have it as a Top 10 Guy Movie?

Oh man.   !!!!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 07, 2022, 07:25:43 PM
Tons of highly complimentary chatter on Justin Fields today. Not just locally, but nationally.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 07, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-justin-fields-week-9-performance-national-analyst-reaction/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 02:05:53 PM
https://twitter.com/emmanuelacho/status/1589770895350169600?s=46&t=wac9uS1yle8Sc7N6hLBVVg

But PAMan wants to know where the 300 yard games are.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 08, 2022, 02:42:39 PM
https://twitter.com/emmanuelacho/status/1589770895350169600?s=46&t=wac9uS1yle8Sc7N6hLBVVg

But PAMan wants to know where the 300 yard games are.

And the "wins."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 08, 2022, 02:43:58 PM
Tempo, between Spark and you, who was always talking about experts on Twitter and the eye test?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 08, 2022, 02:48:59 PM
https://twitter.com/parkinsspiegel/status/1590079386253807616?s=46&t=HyRgnZ0HzWtJqqeybNNLyA

Jesus fucking Christ. The score is the fucking worst. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 08, 2022, 03:51:17 PM
https://twitter.com/parkinsspiegel/status/1590079386253807616?s=46&t=HyRgnZ0HzWtJqqeybNNLyA

Jesus fucking Christ. The score is the fucking worst. Lol

What the fuck 😂 slow day
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:02:58 PM
And the "wins."

JFC you aren’t this stupid. This team is literally built to lose…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:07:30 PM
Bottom 5 offensive line in football w/5th round rookie LT. Worst WR corps in football. Trade away Khalil Mack, Robert Quinn, and Roquan Smith. Worst front 7 in football. Probably by a mile. Young and inexperienced secondary. Rookie HC and OC.

PAMan: “Yeah, but where’s the wins?!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:09:00 PM
https://twitter.com/parkinsspiegel/status/1590079386253807616?s=46&t=HyRgnZ0HzWtJqqeybNNLyA

Jesus fucking Christ. The score is the fucking worst. Lol

Yeah, that’s a dumb topic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:11:30 PM
The fact this team is putting up 30 points a game the last month is a goddamned miracle.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 08, 2022, 04:18:21 PM
Bottom 5 offensive line in football w/5th round rookie LT. Worst WR corps in football. Trade away Khalil Mack, Robert Quinn, and Roquan Smith. Worst front 7 in football. Probably by a mile. Young and inexperienced secondary. Rookie HC and OC.

PAMan: “Yeah, but where’s the wins?!”

We all know the QB is the most important player on the field.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:20:04 PM
We all know the QB is the most important player on the field.

And he’s been far and away the best player on the Bears the last 5 weeks. Especially the last 3. Are you even watching the games? JFC I never thought you were this ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:22:45 PM
2nd year QB Justin Fields is literally given the worst supporting cast in the league.

PAMan: “Yeah, but I wanna know where the wins are!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 08, 2022, 04:31:01 PM
2nd year QB Justin Fields is literally given the worst supporting cast in the league.

PAMan: “Yeah, but I wanna know where the wins are!”

And averaging more than 4.4 yards per pass attempt like he did Sunday
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:38:08 PM
JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:40:07 PM
You are a fucking lunatic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 08, 2022, 04:42:13 PM
This might be the greatest thread ever.  I aint bullshittin.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 08, 2022, 04:46:01 PM
You are a fucking lunatic.

Henry Burris averaged 4.1 yards per attempt in his NFL career.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:46:08 PM
This might be the greatest thread ever.  I aint bullshittin.

It’s climbing the ladder.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:46:47 PM
https://twitter.com/kfishbain/status/1590087935554392064?s=46&t=wac9uS1yle8Sc7N6hLBVVg

PAMan: “but I’m not seeing enough YPA!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 08, 2022, 04:49:28 PM
https://twitter.com/kfishbain/status/1590087935554392064?s=46&t=wac9uS1yle8Sc7N6hLBVVg

PAMan: “but I’m not seeing enough YPA!”

He has been running the ball well. So did Bobby Douglass.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:49:42 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgTsVkR8/68-D19-A89-8-B73-4153-A605-BF5-ED2-AFE8-A3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DS9v9qXc)

PAMan: “But where’s the wins and the YPA?! And what about that awful FT% against EIU on opening night?”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 04:57:00 PM
He has been running the ball well. So did Bobby Douglass.

This post is likely go do down as the best or worst take in forum history.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 08, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgTsVkR8/68-D19-A89-8-B73-4153-A605-BF5-ED2-AFE8-A3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DS9v9qXc)

PAMan: “But where’s the wins and the YPA?! And what about that awful FT% against EIU on opening night?”

At least they beat the Pats.

He is 16th in the league at 7.1 ypa. John Elway, McMahon, Favre, Jay Cutler all averaged 7.1 ypa over their careers.

The Free Shot Percentage is disturbing. If that continues, watch out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 08, 2022, 04:58:33 PM
This post is likely go do down as the best or worst take in forum history.

You forgot the "or maybe not "
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 05:14:23 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/wT6XqSRk/20-FB6045-CE84-4656-8-D75-91-FCB1-A6-B9-F0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BtVLN7g8)

Despite being surrounded with the worst supporting cast in the league, PAMan remains unimpressed. “Where’s the wins and the YPA?”

You are completely unreasonable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 05:40:21 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5Mc74Kq/1-CFAD2-F8-3-FBB-4-D3-F-AB4-F-A74-E29-F34116.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvfw6q3q)

“But where’s the wins and the YPA?!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 08, 2022, 07:10:28 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5Mc74Kq/1-CFAD2-F8-3-FBB-4-D3-F-AB4-F-A74-E29-F34116.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvfw6q3q)

“But where’s the wins and the YPA?!”

Spicy 🌶
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 08, 2022, 07:28:58 PM
Pretty difficult to rack up the passing yards when your so-called receivers are dropping side arm dimes like this one

https://twitter.com/_MarcusD3_/status/1589363767183552512
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 07:48:43 PM
Pretty difficult to rack up the passing yards when your so-called receivers are dropping side arm dimes like this one

https://twitter.com/_MarcusD3_/status/1589363767183552512

Exactly. Not saying Fields has been prime Peyton Manning, but he’s had a lot of well thrown balls (touchdowns and deep balls among them) dropped.

Anyone not encouraged by his play lately is going out of their way to be negative.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 08:14:23 PM
And it’s not just the running or the passing. Lots of praise from experts (former QBs and whatnot) about how great his ball handling is how much more command he’s showing at the line of scrimmage.

As I said, anyone not pretty encouraged by what they’ve seen the last few weeks is going out of their way to focus on any perceived negatives.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 08:23:17 AM
So let’s again consider the woeful shortcomings of said O-line, WR corps, front 7, inexperienced secondary.

Giants: Velus Jones fumbles punt costing Bears chance at game tying drive.

Vikings: Smith-Marsette fumbles ball after catch costing Bears chance at game tying drive.

Commanders: Fields delivers good pass to Mooney in which he fails to run route deep enough or high point ball and comes up 1/3 of a yard short.

Cowboys: Fields plays good game but fails to put up 50 against arguably the best defense in the league (on the road).

Dolphins: EQ St. Brown drops perfectly delivered side arm throw on 4th down to end Bears chances of game winning drive.

PAMan: “Why the fuck isn’t Justin Fields winning? Where are the WINS? Bobby Douglass was a good runner…why did the Illini miss too many free-throws against EIU? This will cost them in March.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 08:38:19 AM
So let’s again consider the woeful shortcomings of said O-line, WR corps, front 7, inexperienced secondary.

Giants: Velus Jones fumbles punt costing Bears chance at game tying drive.

Vikings: Smith-Marsette fumbles ball after catch costing Bears chance at game tying drive.

Commanders: Fields delivers good pass to Mooney in which he fails to run route deep enough or high point ball and comes up 1/3 of a yard short.

Cowboys: Fields plays good game but fails to put up 50 against arguably the best defense in the league (on the road).

Dolphins: EQ St. Brown drops perfectly delivered side arm throw on 4th down to end Bears chances of game winning drive.

PAMan: “Why the fuck isn’t Justin Fields winning? Where are the WINS? Bobby Douglass was a good runner…why did the Illini miss too many free-throws against EIU? This will cost them in March.”

Add in the Dems should have propped up more Trumpers to run against.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 09:28:06 AM
Jfc.
I didn't consider any of this yesterday.
And today isn't looking good either.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 09:56:15 AM
Jfc.
I didn't consider any of this yesterday.
And today isn't looking good either.

What I’m asking is, where the fuck are the WINS?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 10:30:55 AM
If only a wide open in the flat Claypool would have caught that beautiful pass from Fields, he could have gone all the way for the score. He was only 10 yards away.
If only the 6'4" Claypool was 5 feet taller.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 10:56:10 AM
If only a wide open in the flat Claypool would have caught that beautiful pass from Fields, he could have gone all the way for the score. He was only 10 yards away.
If only the 6'4" Claypool was 5 feet taller.

Why isn’t he (Fields) WINNING?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 11:14:12 AM
If only a wide open in the flat Claypool would have caught that beautiful pass from Fields, he could have gone all the way for the score. He was only 10 yards away.
If only the 6'4" Claypool was 5 feet taller.

Fuck Justin Fields for not being perfect!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 11:51:18 AM
Why isn’t he (Fields) WINNING?

Because he is still overthrowing guys in the flat, is what Mn is saying.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 11:57:30 AM
Fuck Justin Fields for not being perfect!

I'll take remotely competent throwing passes in the flat before we start thinking about perfection.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 12:25:09 PM
I'll take remotely competent throwing passes in the flat before we start thinking about perfection.
And then there was the play where the announcers said Fields would have completed the side armed pass if the the defensive player hadn't been standing in the way and obstructing the receiver's view.
Could have been another one of those Fields td passes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 12:49:48 PM
And then there was the play where the announcers said Fields would have completed the side armed pass if the the defensive player hadn't been standing in the way and obstructing the receiver's view.

BUt WhaT aBOUt tHE 178 yArDs Fields ruSHEd FoR?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 12:51:25 PM
BUt WhaT aBOUt tHE 178 yArDs Fields ruSHEd FoR?
There's something to be said for the qb leading the team in rushing attempts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 02:34:28 PM
Because he is still overthrowing guys in the flat, is what Mn is saying.

Fuck him for not being perfect!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 02:35:53 PM
I'll take remotely competent throwing passes in the flat before we start thinking about perfection.

You clearly haven’t watched much of the last 5 games. He’s been markedly improved.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 02:36:58 PM
And then there was the play where the announcers said Fields would have completed the side armed pass if the the defensive player hadn't been standing in the way and obstructing the receiver's view.
Could have been another one of those Fields td passes.


Why is he not completing 100% of his PASSES?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 02:38:18 PM
BUt WhaT aBOUt tHE 178 yArDs Fields ruSHEd FoR?

You are far dumber than I thought you were. 6 teams were lead by their QB in rushing last week btw.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 02:41:57 PM
There's something to be said for the qb leading the team in rushing attempts.

Bears double their scoring average over previous 2 years.

MN: “wHy iS tHE QUarTerBaCK leaDiNG tHE  TeAm In rUSh aTTempTs?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 02:54:36 PM
“The Jets coulda had Justin Fields.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkLYfU3FVtU
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:00:12 PM
“The Jets coulda had Justin Fields.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkLYfU3FVtU

You really want to rely on Greeny?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 03:01:25 PM
Fuck him for not being perfect!
I'm far from perfect.
Fields can miss easy throws.
He might have a tendency to tuck it and take off running, which could be due to any number of issues.
He's played well the last 3 weeks, but leading the team in rushing attempts might get him killed.
Finally, it's the Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 03:02:30 PM
You really want to rely on Greeny?
Desperation is setting in.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:03:01 PM
You really want to rely on Greeny?

Pretty sure I heard several people on the panel saying Justin Fields is legit, and the next big thing…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:03:36 PM
I'm far from perfect.
Fields can miss easy throws.
He might have a tendency to tuck it and take off running, which could be due to any number of issues.
He's played well the last 3 weeks, but leading the team in rushing attempts might get him killed.
Finally, it's the Bears.

WhY dO YoU HaTe JuStiN FieLDs? Don't you know Mike Greenberg wanted him on the Jets?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 03:04:06 PM
Bears double their scoring average over previous 2 years.

MN: “wHy iS tHE QUarTerBaCK leaDiNG tHE  TeAm In rUSh aTTempTs?
Because other than throwing the deep ball he has a desire to get killed ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:05:06 PM
You guys are beyond unreasonable if you’re not at least pretty encouraged by what you’ve seen the last month. It’s vastly improved from week 3. Can you not even concede that? That’s all I’m looking for. But yeah, you’re right. Fields isn’t Peyton Manning just yet. So, you got me there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:05:23 PM
Pretty sure I heard several people on the panel saying Justin Fields is legit, and the next big thing…

So you are relying on an ESPN Shout At Each Other Show. It is a low bar, but you are better relying on Parkins' tweets for support.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 03:06:12 PM
WhY dO YoU HaTe JuStiN FieLDs? Don't you know Mike Greenberg wanted him on the Jets?
I don't hate JuStiN FieLDs, and saying I hate Greenberg might be going a little far. But not much.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:06:21 PM
Because other than throwing the deep ball he has a desire to uget killed ?

He was taking harder hits in the pocket, dimwit. How many hard hits as he taken since Washington? Very few, and when he did, they were in the pocket.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 03:07:39 PM
You guys are beyond unreasonable if you’re not at least pretty encouraged by what you’ve seen the last month. It’s vastly improved from week 3. Can you not even concede that? That’s all I’m looking for. But yeah, you’re right. Fields isn’t Peyton Manning just yet. So, you got me there.
JuStiN FieLDs is one dropped td pass away from being Peyton Manning.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:08:21 PM
Not saying he’s going to run 15x a game his entire career, but if you can’t see what this has done for the offense you’re blind. I guess you hate Lamar Jackson, and wouldn’t want him as your quarterback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:09:28 PM
You guys are beyond unreasonable if you’re not at least pretty encouraged by what you’ve seen the last month. It’s vastly improved from week 3. Can you not even concede that? That’s all I’m looking for. But yeah, you’re right. Fields isn’t Peyton Manning just yet. So, you got me there.

Yes, it is better than before, because before was brutal for the most part. I'm glad there is improvement. Tons left to work on. Hope he can figure out the passing because he is going to get killed running the ball. You see that Josh Allen is hurt, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:09:59 PM
So you are relying on an ESPN Shout At Each Other Show. It is a low bar, but you are better relying on Parkins' tweets for support.

Hey dimwit, it’s all over the Internet. There is no shortage of talk shows and former players saying the same thing. Do you live in a cave?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:10:50 PM
Hey dimwit, it’s all over the Internet. There is no shortage of talk shows and former players saying the same thing. Do you live in a cave?

As a matter of fact....

Who the hell watches ESPN unless there is a game on?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 03:10:55 PM
He was taking harder hits in the pocket, dimwit. How many hard hits as he taken since Washington? Very few, and when he did, they were in the pocket.
I didn't want to mention leading the league in sacks to go along with leading the team in rushing attempts.
He might make it thru the season. His athleticism might do it for him, but I'm not sure it's a good game plan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:12:05 PM
Yes, it is better than before, because before was brutal for the most part. I'm glad there is improvement. Tons left to work on. Hope he can figure out the passing because he is going to get killed running the ball. You see that Josh Allen is hurt, right?

You mean the play where he got hurt while throwing from the pocket?

Are you laying down for me right now? Are you leaning into the bit? You’re making this way too easy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:13:00 PM
I didn't want to mention leading the league in sacks to go along with leading the team in rushing attempts.
He might make it thru the season. His athleticism might do it for him, but I'm not sure it's a good game plan.

And you think that’s all on him? How many sacks has he avoided? 25?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:13:53 PM
Anyone who thinks Fields hasn’t been vastly improved as a passer the past 5 weeks isn’t watching the games, or has some sort of hang up they can’t get over.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:14:37 PM
The irony of the guy who consistently posts in the wrong forum calling others "dimwits" is not lost by anyone, is it?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:15:01 PM
As a matter of fact....

Who the hell watches ESPN unless there is a game on?

Again, Justin Fields praise and enthusiasm is all over the place. That was just one clip…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:15:23 PM
The irony of the guy who consistently posts in the wrong forum calling others "dimwits" is not lost by anyone, is it?

Laydown noted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:17:22 PM
Laydown noted.

Josh Allen takes a lot of hits because he runs a lot. Know he is hurt. Are you a medical doctor or Hub Arkush and can definitively say his injury is the result of one hit or play?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:19:56 PM
Josh Allen takes a lot of hits because he runs a lot. Know he is hurt. Are you a medical doctor or Hub Arkush and can definitively say his injury is the result of one hit or play?

So you didn’t see the play…he got hurt in the pocket, genius. You shouldn’t talk from your ass. Not a good look.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:20:28 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/KjB5CmGT/FDCCB899-B538-45-FC-8-F96-63-EED6-F10965.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7JP728TP)

Surely a 4 letter network hack!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:24:25 PM
He got hurt by getting his arm bent back. AND…I heard he cost his team the game with a stupid play in the end. bUT i BeT hE hIT tHe guY iN tHe FLaT EveRY tIME!

https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1589738841933754368?s=46&t=QugQJs4LbpSkuLOfm6xmqA
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:26:25 PM
So you didn’t see the play…he got hurt in the pocket, genius. You shouldn’t talk from your ass. Not a good look.

Uh, it is not his first UCL sprain...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:27:53 PM
He got hurt by getting his arm bent back. AND…I heard he cost his team the game with a stupid play in the end. bUT i BeT hE hIT tHe guY iN tHe FLaT EveRY tIME!

https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1589738841933754368?s=46&t=QugQJs4LbpSkuLOfm6xmqA

He's hurt his UCL before.

So easy....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:28:02 PM
https://twitter.com/cbssports/status/1589406612330262529?s=46&t=QugQJs4LbpSkuLOfm6xmqA

Josh Allen says he played like shit. buT HE Hit The guY iN thE FlAt EveRY SiNgle tIME…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:28:45 PM
He's hurt his UCL before.

So easy....

And you’re fucking point is? QBs sometimes get hurt? GeNius
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:29:00 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/KjB5CmGT/FDCCB899-B538-45-FC-8-F96-63-EED6-F10965.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7JP728TP)

Surely a 4 letter network hack!

Who is Marc?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:29:59 PM
Who is Marc?

NoT a eSpN guY
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:30:17 PM
And you’re fucking point is? QBs sometimes get hurt? GeNius

That he has taken a few hits on it and it has been injured before....thus, it is easier to get reinjured.

This isn't rocket surgery, Tempo.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:31:10 PM
NoT a eSpN guY

Is he an expert on the Internet?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 03:31:33 PM
Who is Marc?

GoGGle KnoWS hIM

https://www.nfl.com/network/on-air-talent/marc-ross
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:32:08 PM
Tempo, are you or have you been married?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:33:34 PM
GoGGle KnoWS hIM

https://www.nfl.com/network/on-air-talent/marc-ross
Impressive resume!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 09, 2022, 03:40:42 PM
Tempo, are you or have you been married?

I’ll answer this…

No. With these arguing “skills,” I’m sure he has not. If so, divorced.

And speaking from my perspective, no either. He’s just a guy I eat out…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 03:44:56 PM
I’ll answer this…

No. With these arguing “skills,” I’m sure he has not. If so, divorced.

And speaking from my perspective, no either. He’s just a guy I eat out…
LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 04:08:50 PM
Tempo, are you or have you been married?

What does that have to do with anything?

“Fields shouldn’t run so much, he’ll get hurt. Look at Josh Allen (who got hurt in the pocket).”

Surely, as a lawyer, you understand how flawed that argument is, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 04:09:56 PM
I’ll answer this…

No. With these arguing “skills,” I’m sure he has not. If so, divorced.

And speaking from my perspective, no either. He’s just a guy I eat out…

Weren’t you raving over Fields in the game thread?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 04:11:37 PM
What does that have to do with anything?

“Fields shouldn’t run so much, he’ll get hurt. Look at Josh Allen (who got hurt in the pocket).”

Surely, as a lawyer, you understand how flawed that argument is, right?

It is a general question unrelated to Fields, etc.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 04:12:20 PM
Why does everybody want Lamar Fields to fail ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 04:36:19 PM
Why does everybody want Lamar Fields to fail ?

A simple, “he’s really shown some improvement the last 5 games” would be sufficient. Idiot haters around here can’t even get themselves to say that. When it’s been more than evident.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 04:36:55 PM
It is a general question unrelated to Fields, etc.

And unrelated to anything we are discussing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 04:39:25 PM
I’ll answer this…

No. With these arguing “skills,” I’m sure he has not. If so, divorced.


So i guess you’re wondering “Where are the WINS?!” as well?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 09, 2022, 05:11:47 PM
Weren’t you raving over Fields in the game thread?

Yes. As you said, what does that have to do with anything I said?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 05:12:21 PM
And unrelated to anything we are discussing.

Wholly. But I was wondering and knew you would be in this thread.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 09, 2022, 05:14:15 PM
So i guess you’re wondering “Where are the WINS?!” as well?

Of course. Shouldn’t we wonder that?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 05:16:38 PM
Yes. As you said, what does that have to do with anything I said?!

Judging from your post I could only assume you were with PAMan and Mn on this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 05:18:03 PM
Of course. Shouldn’t we wonder that?!

Not really. This team is quite literally built to lose. Who trades away Khalil Mack, Robert Quinn, and Roquan Smith and says “now go out there and win me a division boys!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 09, 2022, 05:19:15 PM
Judging from your post I could only assume you were with PAMan and Mn on this.

I just pointed out that I didn’t think you were married based on your arguing “skills” and me eating you out. Nothing more, nothing less.

Totally unrelated to Fields or anything else being discussed.

I think Fields has been quite good lately. On the football field that is, of course.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 05:19:33 PM
Next year, different story. They should be expected to be one of the most improved teams in the NFL next year. Next year…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 05:20:08 PM
I just pointed out that I didn’t think you were married based on your arguing “skills” and me eating you out. Nothing more, nothing less.

Totally unrelated to Fields or anything else being discussed.

I think Fields has been quite good lately. On the football field that is, of course.

Not off?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 09, 2022, 05:20:28 PM
Not really. This team is quite literally built to lose. Who trades away Khalil Mack, Robert Quinn, and Roquan Smith and says “now go out there and win me a division boys!”

I agree with you. Wins will come next year and beyond if Fields is playing like he has the last 3 weeks or so.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 05:21:34 PM
The unfortunate part is Justin Fields will keep this team out of the top (bottom) 5 in the draft.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 09, 2022, 05:21:47 PM
Not off?

He’s inaccessible I’m told. He’s famous, you’re not. Big difference.

If you ever do pick him up with your Uber service, call me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 05:32:04 PM
“Inaccessible?” To whom?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 05:47:38 PM
For you, PAMan:

https://catcrave.com/2022/11/07/carolina-panthers-officially-fumble-bag-justin-fields/amp/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 05:49:58 PM
A simple, “he’s really shown some improvement the last 5 games” would be sufficient. Idiot haters around here can’t even get themselves to say that. When it’s been more than evident.

He has shown improvement.  There is just a long way to go.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 05:51:54 PM
Next year, different story. They should be expected to be one of the most improved teams in the NFL next year. Next year…

Don't get your head out over your skis.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 06:06:42 PM
He has shown improvement.  There is just a long way to go.

Has he at least graduated from “Mitch Fieldsdom?”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 06:08:37 PM
Don't get your head out over your skis.

Why wouldn’t they be? They have tons of free agent money, another draft, and their division should be ripe for the picking. The wicked witch appears to be dead. Minnesota is ok, but they aren’t a juggernaut by any stretch. The Bears could certainly win the division next year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 06:09:01 PM
Has he at least graduated from “Mitch Fieldsdom?”

Getting there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 09, 2022, 06:09:30 PM
Good stuff today, fellas. I truly enjoyed it.

I am also curious as to Tempo’s marital status. Seems like he would rather not share tho. Bummer, but I respect it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 06:10:05 PM
Why wouldn’t they be? They have tons of free agent money, another draft, and their division should be ripe for the picking. The wicked witch appears to be dead. Minnesota is ok, but they aren’t a juggernaut by any stretch. The Bears could certainly win the division next year.

Other teams in the division will try and get better too. You expect the Packer to not get some wideouts, etc?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 06:10:19 PM
He has shown improvement.  There is just a long way to go.

Correct, after 19 starts and surrounded by practice squad talent, he’s yet to show he’s the next Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Can’t argue with you there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 06:12:33 PM
Other teams in the division will try and get better too. You expect the Packer to not get some wideouts, etc?

Aaron Rodgers isn’t getting younger or better. He looks a long way from MVP form. They could bounce back, but with a good free agent class and a good draft there’s no reason the Bears shouldn’t compete in a thoroughly mediocre NFC.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 09, 2022, 06:14:37 PM
Has he at least graduated from “Mitch Fieldsdom?”
"we ain't come to play SCHOOL."
Another tOSU qb.
Cardale Jones, 2012.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 06:14:57 PM
Aaron Rodgers isn’t getting younger or better. He looks a long way from MVP form. They could bounce back, but with a good free agent class and a good draft there’s no reason the Bears shouldn’t compete in a thoroughly mediocre NFC.

There is going to be competition for this FA class. Isn't this supposed to be a bad FA WR class?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 09, 2022, 06:15:43 PM
Good stuff today, fellas. I truly enjoyed it.

I am also curious as to Tempo’s marital status. Seems like he would rather not share tho. Bummer, but I respect it.

Only reason I don’t is it’s not pertinent and I don’t know why anyone would ask that.

I was engaged to my son’s mother, but it didn’t work out if anyone “needs” to know.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 09, 2022, 06:17:04 PM
Only reason I don’t is it’s not pertinent and I don’t know why anyone would ask that.

I was engaged to my son’s mother, but it didn’t work out if anyone “needs” to know.

Didn’t need to know. Was just curious. Sorry it didn’t work out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2022, 06:22:08 PM
Only reason I don’t is it’s not pertinent and I don’t know why anyone would ask that.

I was engaged to my son’s mother, but it didn’t work out if anyone “needs” to know.

Sorry to hear it didn't work out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 10, 2022, 12:18:34 AM
I saw there were about 6 pages of unread posts in this thread. I was tempted to just skip to the end, but decided to read them instead.

Now the burning question is whether Tempo is a mother fucker.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 10, 2022, 01:43:54 AM
I saw there were about 6 pages of unread posts in this thread. I was tempted to just skip to the end, but decided to read them instead.

Now the burning question is whether Tempo is a mother fucker.

After you copped a buzz, I’m sure that made sense (or was funny) in your head when you posted it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 10, 2022, 07:14:17 AM
I saw there were about 6 pages of unread posts in this thread. I was tempted to just skip to the end, but decided to read them instead.

Now the burning question is whether Tempo is a mother fucker.

I guess that would depend on whether he fucked his ex after his son was born.  If so, the answer is yes.

Of course, said ex could have already been a mother prior to this.  So many variables...

Another alternative is he could have fucked other mothers.

So, I don't know.  I would say it's better than 50/50 that he is in fact a mother fucker.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 10, 2022, 07:15:23 AM
I saw there were about 6 pages of unread posts in this thread. I was tempted to just skip to the end, but decided to read them instead.

Now the burning question is whether Tempo is a mother fucker.

Oh man.  If you would have skipped all of that, you would have missed some good shit.  I think I might actually go back and read it all again.

Or I might not...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 10, 2022, 09:14:12 AM
I guess that would depend on whether he fucked his ex after his son was born.  If so, the answer is yes.

Of course, said ex could have already been a mother prior to this.  So many variables...

Another alternative is he could have fucked other mothers.

So, I don't know.  I would say it's better than 50/50 that he is in fact a mother fucker.

Guilty on all charges. Except for she was not a mother before my son.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 10, 2022, 10:20:15 AM
Maybe Judge Judy's daughter could have a play date with Tempo's son?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 10, 2022, 10:36:30 AM
Things are getting weird(er) here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 10, 2022, 11:01:38 AM
Things are getting weird(er) here.

Agreed 😬
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 10, 2022, 11:29:52 AM
Things are getting weird(er) here.

Keep HQ2 Weird.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 05:38:06 AM
Why is Justin Fields not a finished product NOW? I want it RIGHT NoW!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 11, 2022, 06:54:05 AM
Why is Justin Fields not a finished product NOW? I want it RIGHT NoW!
We know.
Can you wait til after breakfast tho ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 06:58:11 AM
We know.
Can you wait til after breakfast tho ?

I cannot! I want to know why Justin Fields is not winning games with this trash roster that’s literally built to lose! WTf?! He runs good though. So did Bobby Douglass.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 11, 2022, 07:01:36 AM
I wanna know why you started this argument again at 5:38am… 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😩
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 11, 2022, 07:18:25 AM
Spencer Petras has been as hot as NFL wonderkid Justin Fields lately.
After 2 tds and 5 picks in his first 7 games, he's thrown for 400+ yards and 2 tds in his last 2 games.
However, Spencer Petras is Spencer Petras.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 11, 2022, 07:40:09 AM
This is where Robb would ask if Tempo was "still" drunk.

I'll just thank you for your military service on this Veteran's Day.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 09:32:47 AM
I wanna know why you started this argument again at 5:38am… 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😩

Why not?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 09:33:59 AM
Spencer Petras has been as hot as NFL wonderkid Justin Fields lately.
After 2 tds and 5 picks in his first 7 games, he's thrown for 400+ yards and 2 tds in his last 2 games.
However, Spencer Petras is Spencer Petras.

Lemme guess, you’re not a defense lawyer, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 09:34:38 AM
This is where Robb would ask if Tempo was "still" drunk.

I'll just thank you for your military service on this Veteran's Day.

No need. But thanks, I guess.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 11, 2022, 09:34:38 AM
Lemme guess, you’re not a defense lawyer, right?

Throwing for 400 yards is bad.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 09:37:39 AM
Throwing for 400 yards is bad.

Usually good. I’ve seen occasions where it didn’t help. Also, 200 per game. If we’ve gotten to where we’re comparing Petras to Fields we’ve reached an all new level of dumb for this forum, and that’s plunging to irretrievable depths.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 09:57:50 AM
I wanna know why you started this argument again at 5:38am… ‍♂️‍♂️

Where else would I go to make fun of PAMan’s hilarious Justin Fields takes?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Bernstein and Holmes currently making fun of “Let’s see him throw for 300 yards and win games” hot takers. And I’m here for it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 10:49:07 AM
Bernstein said article saying, “Fields has emerged, now he must win” is throwing red meat to dumbest parts of fanbase. He’s right. They are not built to win now that comes later
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 11, 2022, 11:45:13 AM
Bernstein said article saying, “Fields has emerged, now he must win” is throwing red meat to dumbest parts of fanbase. He’s right. They are not built to win now that comes later

Given how Audacy is doing, hopefully Bernstein knows this is his last contract.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 11:48:45 AM
Lol. Even if, I’m sure he’ll find work.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 11, 2022, 12:40:26 PM
Dunno where this should go, but it's a good story about 95 year old Bud Grant who coached the Vikings in plenty of games against the Bears.

The fishwrap says this isn't paywalled. So .....

https://www.startribune.com/bud-grant-minnesota-vikings-armistice-day-blizzard-duck-hunting-victims-dennis-anderson/600224352/

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 11, 2022, 12:54:20 PM
Lol. Even if, I’m sure he’ll find work.

Where AM1000? Ok, chief! He could maybe write for The Athletic and be more irrelevant than he already is?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 11, 2022, 12:55:37 PM
Dunno where this should go, but it's a good story about 95 year old Bud Grant who coached the Vikings in plenty of games against the Bears.

The fishwrap says this isn't paywalled. So .....

https://www.startribune.com/bud-grant-minnesota-vikings-armistice-day-blizzard-duck-hunting-victims-dennis-anderson/600224352/

They wanted me to subscribe for $2 to read.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 11, 2022, 01:22:51 PM
They wanted me to subscribe for $2 to read.

Yep, right when I was getting to the good stuff.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 11, 2022, 01:49:37 PM
They wanted me to subscribe for $2 to read.
Other people got the story. Oh well.

Grant was 13 and went duck hunting with a couple of friends on Armistice Day 1940. One had access to a car, but the story doesn't mention if he had a valid drivers license.
They stayed at a cabin on a lake and went out hunting that day. The weather turned miserable while they were out and they figured they better hightail it.
They were on the road and a couple of cars on the road were stranded by the blizzard. Everybody stayed in 1 car at a time to stay warm and conserve gas. The next morning, Grant still in waders was tasked with going for help. He was the only one who's feet would stay dry. He found a gas station after an hour and stayed with the Mrs and her daughter for 2 1/2 days.
His 2 friends and the occupants of the other cars were rescued by a farmer who found them when he went out to get the deer he had hung a few days earlier. They stayed with him for 2 1/2 days.

A few years later ....
After graduating high school, Grant signed up for the Navy and Blank, the Army. They remained friends, and when they were discharged, they pooled their $200 cash-out money, took a bank loan and together bought hunting land in northwest Wisconsin.

"It wasn't too long before Bill wanted to get married and needed money, so he asked me to buy him out,'' Grant said. "So I took out another loan and paid him.

"At the time, I was playing ball at the U and paid off the loans by scalping tickets to Gophers games.''

Grant still owns the land.

154 people died in the storm and many were duck hunters.
(https://i.ibb.co/7yfGk7m/2-ANDY111122.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s3fFWLY)

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on November 11, 2022, 03:10:16 PM
Sorry if already posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA_FT-G-g5A
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 11, 2022, 03:34:39 PM
Other people got the story. Oh well.

Grant was 13 and went duck hunting with a couple of friends on Armistice Day 1940. One had access to a car, but the story doesn't mention if he had a valid drivers license.
They stayed at a cabin on a lake and went out hunting that day. The weather turned miserable while they were out and they figured they better hightail it.
They were on the road and a couple of cars on the road were stranded by the blizzard. Everybody stayed in 1 car at a time to stay warm and conserve gas. The next morning, Grant still in waders was tasked with going for help. He was the only one who's feet would stay dry. He found a gas station after an hour and stayed with the Mrs and her daughter for 2 1/2 days.
His 2 friends and the occupants of the other cars were rescued by a farmer who found them when he went out to get the deer he had hung a few days earlier. They stayed with him for 2 1/2 days.

A few years later ....
After graduating high school, Grant signed up for the Navy and Blank, the Army. They remained friends, and when they were discharged, they pooled their $200 cash-out money, took a bank loan and together bought hunting land in northwest Wisconsin.

"It wasn't too long before Bill wanted to get married and needed money, so he asked me to buy him out,'' Grant said. "So I took out another loan and paid him.

"At the time, I was playing ball at the U and paid off the loans by scalping tickets to Gophers games.''

Grant still owns the land.

154 people died in the storm and many were duck hunters.
(https://i.ibb.co/7yfGk7m/2-ANDY111122.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s3fFWLY)

Instead of actually getting help, Bud Grant left his friends in the car and just stayed with the mom and daughter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 11, 2022, 04:37:17 PM
Instead of actually getting help, Bud Grant left his friends in the car and just stayed with the mom and daughter.
Next time you get a 5 foot snow, try wandering around in waders for an hour.
For $2, you can read the whole story tho.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 04:38:34 PM
Doesn’t sound that interesting. He took a walk in the snow and shacked up with some girl and her mom.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 11, 2022, 04:39:52 PM
Penthouse Forum version might be worth $2.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 11, 2022, 04:44:00 PM
Penthouse Forum version might be worth $2.

I was the coach of a midwestern football team....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 11, 2022, 04:44:42 PM
Next time you get a 5 foot snow, try wandering around in waders for an hour.
For $2, you can read the whole story tho.

He was supposed to go get help. Not stop when he found housing and babes for himself!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 13, 2022, 06:32:52 AM
Tempo, are we cheering for a Bear victory against the Lion today or just for Fields to do well?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 13, 2022, 07:40:19 AM
Fields playing great and the Bears losing is a best case scenario. If we have Jalen Carter at the 3 technique next year, we’ll be glad we lost a couple extra games. That’s going to require a top 5-6 pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 13, 2022, 07:41:47 AM
Having said that I don’t see the Bears losing today, bet all the overs
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 13, 2022, 09:28:48 AM
Fields playing great and the Bears losing is a best case scenario. If we have Jalen Carter at the 3 technique next year, we’ll be glad we lost a couple extra games. That’s going to require a top 5-6 pick.

So you want to "bend[] over backwards to find a way to fall backasswards into" a top draft pick?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 13, 2022, 10:29:56 AM
So you want to "bend[] over backwards to find a way to fall backasswards into" a top draft pick?

I’m guessing Danny Parkins feels the same way.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 13, 2022, 10:57:53 AM
So you want to "bend[] over backwards to find a way to fall backasswards into" a top draft pick?

Going 7-10 does what for ya?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 13, 2022, 11:01:31 AM
I’m guessing Danny Parkins feels the same way.

Again, going 7-10 does what for you exactly? I’d much rather have the 5th pick than the 12th
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 13, 2022, 11:04:44 AM
Not that DFS pricing and MVP votes are super highly correlated, but Justin Fields is the 3rd highest priced quarterback on Fanduel this week. Virtually unimaginable a month ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 13, 2022, 11:05:54 AM
So by losing games they should win, they’re backing in to a top 5 pick.

Glad we agree.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 13, 2022, 11:06:41 AM
Going 7-10 does what for ya?

A simple "Yes" would suffice.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 13, 2022, 11:06:57 AM
Not that DFS pricing and MVP votes are super highly correlated, but Justin Fields is the 3rd highest priced quarterback on Fanduel this week. Virtually unimaginable a month ago.

But you’re broke and desperate, so you can’t play.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 13, 2022, 11:11:23 AM
But you’re broke and desperate, so you can’t play.

Yes to what? Would I rather have a higher draft pick than win a meaningless game against the Lions? Yes, it’s a no-brainer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 13, 2022, 11:20:49 AM
Yes to what? Would I rather have a higher draft pick than win a meaningless game against the Lions? Yes, it’s a no-brainer.

You replied to the wrong quote.

God damn, you suck at this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 13, 2022, 11:22:56 AM
Damn, so I did. I suck at this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 13, 2022, 11:24:54 AM
A simple "Yes" would suffice.

Yes, see above. A meaningless win against the Lions does nothing for me. I’d rather be higher in the draft order than them if a deep playoff run isn’t at all realistic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 03:19:10 PM
Dan Orlovsky says Justin Fields should be in the discussion for MVP because he’s excelling in the worst situation in the league.

https://twitter.com/getupespn/status/1592158462225436672?s=46&t=PvTiXAsy5sAgHI3wzu7-Kw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 03:22:23 PM
Check that. “Worst he’s ever seen for young QB.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 14, 2022, 04:13:28 PM
This is all that I need to know. Lol


Dan Orlovsky
@danorlovsky7
·
Nov 11
Dipping French fries in Olive Oil is spectacular and a new go-to
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 04:32:15 PM
Olive oil is great stuff, so might be worth a try
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 14, 2022, 05:59:22 PM
There are hot takes and then there is reality. The reality is he needs to be better when they know he has to pass. Granted, they need to move the pocket to help him because the line sucks.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/11/14/23458838/bears-lions-final-31-30-justin-fields-film-study-breaking-down-rollercoaster-fourth-quarter-67-yard

"It continued a trend that concerns Bears coaches and players alike: on 16 possessions when tied or trailing by a touchdown or less this season, the Bears have managed only two touchdowns and two field goals."

18 yards of offense on 16 plays in the 4th quarter doesn't cut it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 09:01:14 PM
Don’t really disagree, but that’s far from being entirely on Fields. He’s had multiple drops in key situations and late in games.

Overall, Getsy didn’t have his best game Sunday. He made the offense too predictable in the 4th quarter. The O-line still doesn’t pass block well in obvious passing situations.

He’s putting up 30 points a game with end of the roster backups as his offense, I’m not concerned about him being able to score (at some point) when it matters.

I don’t agree that Fields is an MVP candidate, but just showing that there is some really high level of praise for Fields out there. Which is proof he’s made some really big strides (even if he doesn’t have a 300 yard passing game!). Hard to throw for 300 when they barely call pass plays. What Fields is doing is opening up things for the entire offense. He’s not a finished product, but he’s on the verge of being the next big star.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 14, 2022, 09:07:08 PM
While true that his running is opening up the O, that seems to be happening for the 1st 3 quarters. Once the 4th hits, things seem to change.

If they are tanking for a draft pick as you claim, don't you tell him to try and stay in the pocket and throw the ball instead of designing runs for him? Accomplishes 2 things, one, they will lose, and two, he will get experience in the pocket (but will take his lumps).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 09:32:45 PM
While true that his running is opening up the O, that seems to be happening for the 1st 3 quarters. Once the 4th hits, things seem to change.

If they are tanking for a draft pick as you claim, don't you tell him to try and stay in the pocket and throw the ball instead of designing runs for him? Accomplishes 2 things, one, they will lose, and two, he will get experience in the pocket (but will take his lumps).

Again, he’s had some drops and penalties (or non-calls) work against him. And also again, I fully acknowledge he’s not a finished product. The kid is already performing near miracles, not fair to expect perfection. 30 points a game with this unit is crazy production.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 09:36:01 PM
While true that his running is opening up the O, that seems to be happening for the 1st 3 quarters. Once the 4th hits, things seem to change.

If they are tanking for a draft pick as you claim, don't you tell him to try and stay in the pocket and throw the ball instead of designing runs for him? Accomplishes 2 things, one, they will lose, and two, he will get experience in the pocket (but will take his lumps).

I’ve never said they are full-on tanking (i.e. losing on purpose). But they are content to let the chips fall where they may with the rebuild. Of course the players and coaches are trying to win the game in front of them.

I do think they are likely to start throwing more (and from the pocket) moving forward. You’ve got to find out what you have in people like Jones Jr, Harry, Claypool, and the OLine.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 14, 2022, 09:37:06 PM
I think we know what they have in the O line
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 09:39:31 PM
I think we know what they have in the O line

You’ve got two 2nd year guys and a rookie. Still lots to learn about them. The jury is still out. But I think at least, they add two starters next year.  Just a question of where.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 06:52:20 PM
Khalil Herbert to the IR. Hip injury.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 15, 2022, 07:30:56 PM
That helps the tanking process.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 05:22:10 PM
Coke Kmet didn’t practice, thigh injury. Jaylon Johnson could be a candidate to miss the Atlanta game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 16, 2022, 06:03:19 PM
Just when Kmet was starting to look like an actual NFL tight end.  :(
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 06:18:53 PM
If he practices by Friday he’ll play.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 06:58:18 PM
Under the radar, Bears sign Taco Charlton. Not expecting much, but open to trying about anything right now.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/taco-charlton-plans-make-plays-bears-help-justin-fields-win-games?amp
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 11:46:25 AM
Bears converting failed Chilean TE to defensive line. But why can’t Justin Fields will them to victories?

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/matt-eberflus-sammis-reyes-position-switch/amp/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 17, 2022, 11:48:10 AM
Bears converting failed Chilean TE to defensive line. But why can’t Justin Fields will them to victories?

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/matt-eberflus-sammis-reyes-position-switch/amp/

Good question. Been asking it myself.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 11:49:05 AM
In all seriousness though, it’s crazy to think of how close the Bears are to being 6-4 or even 7-3. Several games came down to a drop, unconverted catch, bad call, no call etc.  change one play in multiple games and the Bears could absolutely be 6-4 and in the playoff picture.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 11:50:24 AM
Good question. Been asking it myself.

I can’t believe a 2nd year QB can’t elevate a roster that’s built to lose to win. It makes ZERO sense!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 17, 2022, 11:55:46 AM
Bears converting failed Chilean TE to defensive line. But why can’t Justin Fields will them to victories?

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/matt-eberflus-sammis-reyes-position-switch/amp/
He just needs 3-5 more carries.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 17, 2022, 11:56:46 AM
In all seriousness though, it’s crazy to think of how close the Bears are to being 6-4 or even 7-3. Several games came down to a drop, unconverted catch, bad call, no call etc.  change one play in multiple games and the Bears could absolutely be 6-4 and in the playoff picture.

Add in a bad Pick 6. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 17, 2022, 11:57:45 AM
I can’t believe a 2nd year QB can’t elevate a roster that’s built to lose to win. It makes ZERO sense!

You went from noting how close they were to being in the playoff hunt to it being a roster built to lose. You need to pick a lane at some point.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 11:58:51 AM
You went from noting how close they were to being in the playoff hunt to it being a roster built to lose. You need to pick a lane at some point.

How many of those losses were on Fields?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 17, 2022, 11:58:56 AM
You went from noting how close they were to being in the playoff hunt to it being a roster built to lose. You need to pick a lane at some point.

🎯
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 17, 2022, 11:59:34 AM
In all seriousness though, it’s crazy to think of how close the Bears are to being 6-4 or even 7-3. Several games came down to a drop, unconverted catch, bad call, no call etc.  change one play in multiple games and the Bears could absolutely be 6-4 and in the playoff picture.
If that guy would only have dropped the 4th quarter pick 6.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 17, 2022, 12:00:01 PM
How many of those losses were on Fields?

Doesn't the QB get all the glory and all the blame?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 17, 2022, 12:01:06 PM
He just needs 3-5 more carries.

Good call. Maybe Fields could have thrown to him in the flat 3 to 5 more times. He needs the practice.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 17, 2022, 12:02:30 PM
How many of those losses were on Fields?

3 to 5 maybe?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 17, 2022, 12:06:47 PM
I think the correct position is that you win as a team and you lose as a team.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 12:44:12 PM
Add in a bad Pick 6.
.

Did you forget to add in the 30-24 lead he gave them a minute or so later on an incredible 67 yard touchdown run?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 12:44:53 PM
Doesn't the QB get all the glory and all the blame?

If you’re a meathead, yes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 17, 2022, 01:21:24 PM
If you’re a meathead, yes.

Bill Belichick says "Hello" to Tom Brady.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 02:02:44 PM


The point is, it’s a small miracle this team is competitive. Do you idiots think Ryan Poles traded away Khalil Mack, Robert Quinn, Roquan Smith and started a 5th round rookie at LT (and with an inexperienced quarterback) expecting to compete for the division title?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 02:04:59 PM
I think the correct position is that you win as a team and you lose as a team.

Not according to PAMan. It’s Justin Fields’ fault.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 17, 2022, 02:15:03 PM
To sum up my thoughts on this subject…

-I’m all for the Bears losing as much as possible this year.

-I know from what I’ve seen this year that Fields is our QB of the future. At least for the next 2 seasons. I’m ok with that.

-I like seeing him do well and us losing. So the end of games I’m just not concerned about currently. Do that next year and I’ll have my reservations about him and be ready to move on at the end of his rookie contract. Hopefully then our roster will be better all around to take a rookie on a rookie deal to be in a position to succeed.

-Yes Fields has the worst supporting cast in the NFL around him and despite that he’s played very well the past 3-5 weeks.

-Still lots of improvement needed. Why do we need a definitive answer on him right now? He’s proved enough to warrant next year, so why not give him that? That’s all we need to know right now until a better supporting cast comes along. I would PREFER we don’t win those games right now and he performs badly in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 02:17:03 PM
To sum up my thoughts on this subject…

-I’m all for the Bears losing as much as possible this year.

-I know from what I’ve seen this year that Fields is our QB of the future. At least for the next 2 seasons. I’m ok with that.

-I like seeing him do well and us losing. So the end of games I’m just not concerned about currently. Do that next year and I’ll have my reservations about him and be ready to move on at the end of his rookie contract. Hopefully then our roster will be better all around to take a rookie on a rookie deal to be in a position to succeed.

-Yes Fields has the worst supporting cast in the NFL around him and despite that he’s played very well the past 3-5 weeks.

-Still lots of improvement needed. Why do we need a definitive answer on him right now? He’s proved enough to warrant next year, so why not give him that? That’s all we need to know right now until a better supporting cast comes along. I would PREFER we don’t win those games right now and he performs badly in the 4th quarter.

What the fuck is this reasonableness?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 02:18:41 PM
Was the 3-5 weeks intentional? If so, much better played (subtlety is key) than most uses of the meme.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 17, 2022, 02:30:08 PM
If that guy would only have dropped the 4th quarter pick 6.

Maybe the Bears can get him as a receiver
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 17, 2022, 03:04:12 PM
Was the 3-5 weeks intentional? If so, much better played (subtlety is key) than most uses of the meme.

I thought it was reasonable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 17, 2022, 03:06:22 PM
Was the 3-5 weeks intentional? If so, much better played (subtlety is key) than most uses of the meme.

Yes somewhat. I typed 3-4 weeks and realized, “oh shit, this would be a great instance to use that “Tempo meme”.” So I changed it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 17, 2022, 03:08:51 PM
Yes somewhat. I typed 3-4 weeks and realized, “oh shit, this would be a great instance to use that “Tempo meme”.” So I changed it.

It was "reasonable" until he realized it was a meme
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on November 17, 2022, 03:14:32 PM
In all seriousness though, it’s crazy to think of how close the Bears are to being 6-4 or even 7-3. Several games came down to a drop, unconverted catch, bad call, no call etc.  change one play in multiple games and the Bears could absolutely be 6-4 and in the playoff picture.

You're thinking of last season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 03:15:28 PM
You're thinking of last season.

?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 17, 2022, 03:15:52 PM
It was "reasonable" until he realized it was a meme

?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 18, 2022, 07:40:58 PM
https://beargoggleson.com/2022/11/17/ranking-chicago-bears-2023-offseason-needs-free-agency-draft/amp/2/

Jalen Carter/Bears mentioned on the webs and my ears started ringing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2022, 06:26:01 PM
Bears up to 3rd pick on tankathon! Tank! Tank! Tank!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2022, 06:38:42 PM
I kinda think they should trade down and get multiple 1sts if possible. They have so many needs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 20, 2022, 06:41:43 PM
I kinda think they should trade down and get multiple 1sts if possible. They have so many needs.

The higher the pick the more you’ll get if they wanna go that route.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2022, 06:42:49 PM
The higher the pick the more you’ll get if they wanna go that route.

Yep. Especially if teams really want Young or Stroud
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 20, 2022, 06:44:59 PM
Yep. Especially if teams really want Young or Stroud

I seriously just had a flashback and PTSD of the last time we had the #2 pick. 😩
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2022, 06:49:39 PM
I seriously just had a flashback and PTSD of the last time we had the #2 pick. 😩

You mean when they drafted the inaugural NVP?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 20, 2022, 06:52:08 PM
You mean when they drafted the inaugural NVP?

Mitch Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 20, 2022, 06:52:37 PM
Or was it Justin Trubisky at that time??
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2022, 06:53:55 PM
I think it was just Trubinski
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2022, 08:18:07 PM
I kinda think they should trade down and get multiple 1sts if possible. They have so many needs.

Not opposed to that if they can bend someone over like Lynch did to Ryan Pace.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2022, 08:20:53 PM
You mean when they drafted the inaugural NVP?

Nice pull.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2022, 08:31:19 PM
Nice pull.

The inaugural NVP is one thing that can never be taken away
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2022, 08:39:42 PM
The inaugural NVP is one thing that can never be taken away

For damn sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2022, 08:39:50 PM
https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-bears/haugh-bears-bad-play-calling-final-drive-deprives-justin-fields-chance-hometown-hero
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2022, 08:46:56 PM
https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-bears/haugh-bears-bad-play-calling-final-drive-deprives-justin-fields-chance-hometown-hero

Shot fired at Parkins. Nice.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2022, 08:50:44 PM
Shot fired at Parkins. Nice.

Oh, Parkins will be flipping on that Getsy love bullshit real quick. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2022, 09:18:46 PM
https://twitter.com/barstoolcarl/status/1594395112448356353?s=46&t=pZzbTSD8M6NAuohOtVxm_w

Looks like Tempo hacked someone’s Twitter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 20, 2022, 09:21:39 PM
🥴
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2022, 09:22:35 PM
https://twitter.com/barstoolcarl/status/1594395112448356353?s=46&t=pZzbTSD8M6NAuohOtVxm_w

Looks like Tempo hacked someone’s Twitter.

Hahahaha. The Twitter can't die. We need takes like that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2022, 09:37:40 PM
I’d think about it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2022, 09:40:48 PM
I’d think about it.

Never any doubt
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2022, 09:42:34 PM
I would probably blow Justin Herbert. Dude is sexy af.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 20, 2022, 10:14:02 PM
https://twitter.com/barstoolcarl/status/1594395112448356353?s=46&t=pZzbTSD8M6NAuohOtVxm_w

Looks like Tempo hacked someone’s Twitter.

😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 20, 2022, 10:15:33 PM
I would probably blow Justin Herbert. Dude is sexy af.

Puberty didn’t treat him well covered in acne 🥴🤢🤮
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 12:17:02 AM
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chgo-chicago-bears-podcast/id1039910852
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 07:05:30 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/6qdLq2Fw/224-CCD41-452-B-4-E3-B-BC44-F11188-E5348-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gL26BJYB)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 07:20:37 AM
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chgo-chicago-bears-podcast/id1039910852

Nice sig.

So you are the one who consumes that CHGO or whatever it is called, content.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 07:21:40 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/6qdLq2Fw/224-CCD41-452-B-4-E3-B-BC44-F11188-E5348-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gL26BJYB)

Will be interesting to see who was "NFL open" versus "college open" on that play.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 07:49:56 AM
Nice sig.

So you are the one who consumes that CHGO or whatever it is called, content.

Yesterday I did. Normally, no. You realize that you literally attack every source of information or analysis, right? ESPN?! Trash! The Score?! Trash! CHGO?! No one listens to that! You literally trash every piece of analysis presented, from any source. What do you think that says about you?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 07:51:25 AM
I took a hot salt bath last night and wanted something to listen to and searched for Bears podcasts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:02:26 AM
In the past few weeks I’ve encountered about 3 people who think Justin Fields isn’t an NFL quarterback, and all of them post here…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:10:27 AM
I’m pretty disappointed Justin Fields let Cordarrelle Patterson return that kick for a touchdown. It’s QB’ing 101 dude. Don’t let that happen. #alltheblamealltheglory
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 21, 2022, 08:32:30 AM
Fields has said that in Oct he aggravated a left shoulder injury that occured previously.
He's said that it affects his throwing motion. If his accuracy issues are due to his shoulder injury, it might be nice to find out when the initial injury occured.
Maybe he just needs a healthy left shoulder. Until then, I'm not sure that leading the team in carries week in and week out is the answer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:34:14 AM
Hadn’t heard of this injury until this morning. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:35:59 AM
Dr. Chao says the most probable injury is an AC joint sprain. The pain can be played through, but I’d rather they give him a week or two off. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 21, 2022, 08:41:07 AM
Dr. Chao says the most probable injury is an AC joint sprain. The pain can be played through, but I’d rather they give him a week or two off.

Yeah we know what we have now after these last few weeks. Hell, I’m good with sitting him the rest of the season honestly. He’s shown he’s our QB of the near future. No need in risking that any further this season. Especially when we’re just tanking anyways.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 09:02:26 AM
I wouldn’t be against the idea of shelving him, but I’d rather he play if healthy. I definitely wouldn’t throw him out there if he’s not at least 95% though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 10:22:47 AM
ESPN?! Trash! The Score?! Trash! CHGO?! No one listens to that!

High level of actual facts here. About time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 10:24:11 AM
Dr. Chao says the most probable injury is an AC joint sprain. The pain can be played through, but I’d rather they give him a week or two off.

Who is Dr. Chao?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 10:26:44 AM
In the past few weeks I’ve encountered about 3 people who think Justin Fields isn’t an NFL quarterback, and all of them post here…

You must pay attention when listening to The Score as much as you do to the game and did not see Fields stretching out his hammy....

Tom Thayer isn't sold on Justin Fields the quarterback yet
Mike Mulligan and David Haugh were joined by Bears Radio analyst Tom Thayer to break down the Bears' 27-24 loss to the Falcons on Sunday. Thayer isn't sold on Justin Fields the quarterback at this time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on November 21, 2022, 10:53:15 AM
Who is Dr. Chao?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/50/12/a3/5012a3933806332546279c63abaa2df7.jpg)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 11:12:58 AM
High level of actual facts here. About time.

It says a lot about your narrow-mindedness that you reject all sources of analysis that aren’t your own. Like, you don’t even see other opinions as having any validity.

Keep in mind, at no point have I tried to make the case that Fields is a finished product as an NFL quarterback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 11:14:17 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/50/12/a3/5012a3933806332546279c63abaa2df7.jpg)

[Who is Dr. Chao?]

That’s on a need to know basis.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 11:21:08 AM
It says a lot about your narrow-mindedness that you reject all sources of analysis that aren’t your own. Like, you don’t even see other opinions as having any validity.

Keep in mind, at no point have I tried to make the case that Fields is a finished product as an NFL quarterback.

The Score and ESPN long ago gave up being objective, non-agenda driven sources of analysis.

Now, let's hear you rip on Tom Thayer, who allegedly is not sold on Fields being an NFL QB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 11:22:58 AM
[Who is Dr. Chao?]

That’s on a need to know basis.

I was curious if you meant Dr. Sherwin Ho. He has been on The Score and other media outlets when discussing athletic injuries.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 11:51:28 AM
You must pay attention when listening to The Score as much as you do to the game and did not see Fields stretching out his hammy....

Tom Thayer isn't sold on Justin Fields the quarterback yet
Mike Mulligan and David Haugh were joined by Bears Radio analyst Tom Thayer to break down the Bears' 27-24 loss to the Falcons on Sunday. Thayer isn't sold on Justin Fields the quarterback at this time.

So I just now went back and listened to the Thayer interview you are referencing. At no point did Thayer express “doubt” about Fields as an NFL quarterback. What he said specifically is that Fields needs more passing reps (and no one, and I mean no one disagrees with that). He did say he’s not always making timely decisions and getting the ball out fast enough. And no one disagree swith that either. That’s why I’m always mocking you with the “why isn’t he perfect?!” taunts.

What he also said about Fields, he doesn’t believe this offense is sustainable (which makes me wonder if he’s watched the Ravens the past few years); but I’m not lobbying for Fields to run 18x per game either.

He also praised Fields’ toughness and professionalism. He said he’s “all for Justin,” which would seem to imply he believes in him long term. He just wants more passing reps, which is a perfectly reasonable take. Not the “where’s the 300 yard passing games and wins; he’s a good RB” jackassery you’ve been pedaling.

At no point have I said Fields is a finished product. Your listening and interpretational skills are surprisingly lacking for a lawyer.

Fields is a dynamic talent, who’s improved a lot but still has a ways to go. It’s also important to understand he has very limited “help.” Meaning, next to none. Expecting a 2nd year QB to perform at an All-Pro level with what he has around him is beyond unreasonable. Yes, he still makes mistakes. More than we want to see. He’s not where he should be in a year or two, but he’s clearly progressing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 12:21:34 PM
So I just now went back and listened to the Thayer interview you are referencing. At no point did Thayer express “doubt” about Fields as an NFL quarterback. What he said specifically is that Fields needs more passing reps (and no one, and I mean no one disagrees with that). He did say he’s not always making timely decisions and getting the ball out fast enough. And no one disagree swith that either. That’s why I’m always mocking you with the “why isn’t he perfect?!” taunts.

What he also said about Fields, he doesn’t believe this offense is sustainable (which makes me wonder if he’s watched the Ravens the past few years); but I’m not lobbying for Fields to run 18x per game either.

He also praised Fields’ toughness and professionalism. He said he’s “all for Justin,” which would seem to imply he believes in him long term. He just wants more passing reps, which is a perfectly reasonable take. Not the “where’s the 300 yard passing games and wins; he’s a good RB” jackassery you’ve been pedaling.

At no point have I said Fields is a finished product. Your listening and interpretational skills are surprisingly lacking for a lawyer.

Fields is a dynamic talent, who’s improved a lot but still has a ways to go. It’s also important to understand he has very limited “help.” Meaning, next to none. Expecting a 2nd year QB to perform at an All-Pro level with what he has around him is beyond unreasonable. Yes, he still makes mistakes. More than we want to see. He’s not where he should be in a year or two, but he’s clearly progressing.

I didn't listen to it. I was looking to see if Dr. Ho had been on and saw the headline and description.

In sum you just established support for why The Score sucks. They put up a misleading headline for clicks. It also sounds like Thayer said a lot of the same things that the only 3 people you communicate with who are skeptical of Fields as an NFL QB have said here. Thanks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 12:29:56 PM
JudgeJudy of all people has been the voice of reason here on Justin Fields. “We’ve seen enough to know that he deserves to be here for another year or two at a minimum.” I’ve never argued more than that. All I’ve argued for is a bit of patience, and then you insert your jackassery on the lack of 300 yard games, wins, and lack of progesss (the last of which isn’t true at all). He’s clearly been better the last 5-6 games than he was the  first 3.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 12:32:30 PM
Pretty hilarious that PAMan planted a flag on a click-bait headline.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 07:23:54 PM
Dislocated shoulder for Fields according to ProFootballTalk. Could play this week, could be season ending…🤷🏽

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/21/report-justin-fields-dislocated-his-left-shoulder/amp/

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 07:25:53 PM
Appears Fields will likely miss this game at least. Siemian running the offense should be…interesting.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 07:30:39 PM
Wow, really cool! PAMan will point out that Fields scored by running it! But still very cool.

https://twitter.com/g0dgiven_/status/1594695109106352128?s=46&t=64cJa_fCbQIL9l8cCKov4Q
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 21, 2022, 07:47:01 PM
Bench him and let him heal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 07:53:55 PM
I’d give him this week off for sure. And then as long as he can be close to normal and protect himself I’m ok with him playing. I’d want him close to 95% before taking the field again, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 21, 2022, 08:02:16 PM
Maybe tone down the designed runs
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:24:09 PM
Maybe tone down the designed runs

Especially when he’s clearly playing hurt.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 21, 2022, 08:29:31 PM
Siemian time means I ain't watching
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:34:07 PM
Siemian time means I ain't watching

But he’s a pocket passer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 21, 2022, 08:41:05 PM
But he’s a pocket passer.

Can he throw it to the flats though?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
Can he throw it to the flats though?

Probably all he can do
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 21, 2022, 08:42:55 PM
It would be so fuckin Bears if Siemian went out and won a few games and fucked up the draft position.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 08:43:41 PM
It would be so fuckin Bears if Siemian went out and won a few games and fucked up the draft position.

He has no talent around him. Can't judge him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:44:02 PM
Lol true

Not super worried that will happen, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:45:09 PM
He has no talent around him. Can't judge him.

You still haven’t named the guys you want starting long-term.

OL/Receivers
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 21, 2022, 08:45:52 PM
Lol true

Not super worried that will happen, though.

I mean, I’m not worried about any of this shit. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 08:45:58 PM
You still haven’t named the guys you want starting long-term.

OL/Receivers
I'll get to it eventually. Keep reminding me please.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 21, 2022, 08:46:53 PM
It would be so fuckin Bears if Siemian went out and won a few games and fucked up the draft position.

Better chance of him leaving in a body bag.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:47:28 PM
I'll get to it eventually. Keep reminding me please.

Yeah, pretty sure you won’t.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 21, 2022, 08:47:39 PM
Better chance of him leaving in a body bag.

Even better chance they run the ball 50 times.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:48:51 PM
Better chance of him leaving in a body bag.

Wonder if we can bet odds on over/under for starts for Nathan Peterman.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 08:49:50 PM
Even better chance they run the ball 50 times.

It would be great if Simien ran the ball 18 times instead of 3-5.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 21, 2022, 08:51:58 PM
It would be great if Simien ran the ball 18 times instead of 3-5.

That would be fun to watch.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 08:54:22 PM
That would be funny. Funnier than watching Fields nail a dude in the head.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 21, 2022, 08:56:15 PM
That would be funny. Funnier than watching Fields nail a dude in the head.

The funny part about that hit to the head is how Schofield reacted. He acted like it hurt. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 08:56:23 PM
That would be funny. Funnier than watching Fields nail a dude in the head.

I don't think Mn would agree.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 21, 2022, 09:01:50 PM
"NFL Media has reported that it’s a dislocation of the shoulder. We’re told otherwise.

Per a source with direct knowledge of the situation, Fields did not suffer a dislocation."
Mike Florio NBC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 09:02:54 PM
"NFL Media has reported that it’s a dislocation of the shoulder. We’re told otherwise.

Per a source with direct knowledge of the situation, Fields did not suffer a dislocation."
Mike Florio NBC

If only we had media in this country that didn't report just gossip.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 21, 2022, 09:07:56 PM
If only we had media in this country that didn't report just gossip.
Per an unnamed source not authorized to speak on the subject.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 09:14:58 PM
Rappaport reported dislocated shoulder. He and Schefter are rarely wrong.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2022, 09:15:47 PM
Like the new improved signature.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 21, 2022, 09:17:08 PM
Rappaport reported dislocated shoulder. He and Schefter are rarely wrong.

Schefter seems to be walking it back now.

Who the fuck knows.  Twitter sucks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2022, 09:17:15 PM
Just when I thought you couldn’t possibly have a dumber Justin Fields take, you go and totally redeem yourself…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 22, 2022, 06:53:57 AM
"Asked how big of a challenge it would be to reconfigure the offense without Fields, Eberflus expressed little concern.

“I don’t think that would take that much,” he said. “We would just lean on one side of the offense as opposed to leaning on the side that we’ve expanded to to a certain degree. I think that would be a pretty easy transition.

“Trevor is obviously a very smart individual, a very good passer."

So we'll have him play QB, instead of wingback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 22, 2022, 07:29:53 AM
"Asked how big of a challenge it would be to reconfigure the offense without Fields, Eberflus expressed little concern.

“I don’t think that would take that much,” he said. “We would just lean on one side of the offense as opposed to leaning on the side that we’ve expanded to to a certain degree. I think that would be a pretty easy transition.

“Trevor is obviously a very smart individual, a very good passer."

So we'll have him play QB, instead of wingback.

Good luck! Think Trevor will put up 30 ppg?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 22, 2022, 07:30:08 AM
Lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/rmCNkjnM/52-FA808-B-35-F8-4828-BCE6-8-E80-B8794467.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 22, 2022, 07:31:59 AM
Good luck! Think Trevor will put up 30 ppg?
What if he runs😂 the offense and gets a win ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 22, 2022, 07:33:35 AM
Lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/rmCNkjnM/52-FA808-B-35-F8-4828-BCE6-8-E80-B8794467.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Shouldn't his left arm be in a sling ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 22, 2022, 07:37:07 AM
What if he runs😂 the offense and gets a win ?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tKnG06-oYcg
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 22, 2022, 07:38:46 AM
My guess is it’s more likely Nathan Peterman finishes the game (due to Siemian injury) than Siemian leads the offense to success in a win.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 22, 2022, 05:29:01 PM
https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2022/11/21/o-line-woes-continue-re-thinking-the-claypool-trade-velus-bounces-back-fields-still-shines-and-other-bears-bullets/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 23, 2022, 12:18:40 PM
Sounding like there’s a chance JF could play Sunday. Might practice today.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 23, 2022, 01:03:50 PM
Sounding like there’s a chance JF could play Sunday. Might practice today.
Don't be wetting your pants over this. What does 'limited' in a walk-thru mean ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 23, 2022, 01:06:49 PM
Don't be wetting your pants over this. What does 'limited' in a walk-thru mean ?

That he can only walk on shallow water?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 23, 2022, 01:52:47 PM
Don't be wetting your pants over this. What does 'limited' in a walk-thru mean ?

They’re supposed to give the most accurate status whether it’s a full-practice or they don’t even take the field.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 23, 2022, 02:04:32 PM
Per ESPN per Justin Fields Christ, JFC has separated shoulder with partial torn ligaments, "basically an AC joint" injury.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 23, 2022, 02:09:56 PM
Per ESPN per Justin Fields Christ, JFC has separated shoulder with partial torn ligaments, "basically an AC joint" injury.

All hail Dr. Chao!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 23, 2022, 03:00:59 PM
Per ESPN per Justin Fields Christ, JFC has separated shoulder with partial torn ligaments, "basically an AC joint" injury.

I’m sure Flus was thrilled about Justin Fields Christ being so non-secretive about his injury.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 23, 2022, 03:17:09 PM
I’m sure Flus was thrilled about Justin Fields Christ being so non-secretive about his injury.

Huh?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 01:38:04 PM
This went under the radar. Lucas Patrick done for the year. Probably has played his last down with the Bears.

A few days ago I asked the PAMan how many of the offensive line and receivers he wants as long term starters. He demurred (shocker). I’ll go ahead and answer my own question. On the offensive line, I’m probably ok with Tevin Jenkins at RG. Outside of that, everyone needs to be replaced (or improve fairly dramatically).

For the sake of this debate we will say 3 WR sets count as starters. I’m ok with Claypool and Mooney (but not enthusiasticly). But if there isn’t a WR on the roster better than them, that is a problem. Cole Kmet is fine. He’s a decent player. Don’t think I see All-Pro in his future.

Speaking of which, how many future (1st team) Pro-Bowlers are there in the OL or Receiver room? If I was betting, I’d say zero.

So to sum it up, we have 3-4 usable pieces (with not much visible upside), and about 5 players that probably need to be replaced outright.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-center-lucas-patrick-shut-down-rest-2022-nfl-season?amp
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 25, 2022, 01:56:24 PM
This went under the radar. Lucas Patrick done for the year. Probably has played his last down with the Bears.

A few days ago I asked the PAMan how many of the offensive line and receivers he wants as long term starters. He demurred (shocker). I’ll go ahead and answer my own question. On the offensive line, I’m probably ok with Tevin Jenkins at RG. Outside of that, everyone needs to be replaced (or improve fairly dramatically).

For the sake of this debate we will say 3 WR sets count as starters. I’m ok with Claypool and Mooney (but not enthusiasticly). But if there isn’t a WR on the roster better than them, that is a problem. Cole Kmet is fine. He’s a decent player. Don’t think I see All-Pro in his future.

Speaking of which, how many future (1st team) Pro-Bowlers are there in the OL or Receiver room? If I was betting, I’d say zero.

So to sum it up, we have 3-4 usable pieces (with not much visible upside), and about 5 players that probably need to be replaced outright.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-center-lucas-patrick-shut-down-rest-2022-nfl-season?amp

Apparently we are not talking about a realistic roster construction if you are getting rid of 4 O lineman in one year. If we are NOT talking realistically. I'd get rid of every lineman except Jenkins, every wideout except Mooney, keep Kmet and the RBs, and go get a real QB. Completely unrealistic, but there it is. If we are dealing in reality, let me know.

And what's with the "improve fairly dramatically" part? It seems like a no brainer that they all need to improve dramatically in pass blocking or need to be replaced.

Will you get to my question about what offense Getsy was supposed to run given Fields' (and the line's) passing deficiencies? Seems like he started running the wing because of said deficiencies.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 25, 2022, 02:02:10 PM
Note: The Ram replaced 4? O lineman this year and it does not appear to be working well.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 02:58:40 PM
I didn’t say 4 would be replaced. I said it would be ideal for 4 to be replaced. We know that’s not very likely. So a decent amount of the trash will still be here next year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 25, 2022, 02:59:58 PM
I didn’t say 4 would be replaced. I said it would be ideal for 4 to be replaced. We know that’s not very likely. So a decent amount of the trash will still be here next year.

So which reality am I supposed to look at this: Reality or Tempo Reality?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 03:01:42 PM
Let’s say someone “improves fairly dramatically,” they can stay. I don’t see where that’s confusing. There’s a couple of players (mostly Jones and Borom) who I don’t think the book is entirely written on. Jones could be a decent player, it might not be at LT. Borom isn’t terrible, but still young enough to get better.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 03:05:09 PM
So which reality am I supposed to look at this: Reality or Tempo Reality?

The question is pretty simple. Who do you envision or more importantly “want” as long-term answers. It’s not that hard. Again, there a few young players who’s careers aren’t yet defined. Jones and Borom have the potential to be good players, but I wouldn’t label them that as of yet. Kmet. Is he actually “good?” That’s yet to be determined. He’s at last good enough for now, because he’s going to have to be. I don’t see them going hard at TE in the draft or FA. Too many other needs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 03:21:08 PM
The point of the exercise isn’t rebuilding the roster next year. It’s “who do you feel good about long term?”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 25, 2022, 04:35:21 PM
Let’s say someone “improves fairly dramatically,” they can stay. I don’t see where that’s confusing. There’s a couple of players (mostly Jones and Borom) who I don’t think the book is entirely written on. Jones could be a decent player, it might not be at LT. Borom isn’t terrible, but still young enough to get better.

I think it is a given if they substantially improve they will stay. How do we know now, for this discussion, who is going to improve substantially? I am thinking both of us think Tevin has the ability to improve.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 25, 2022, 04:36:00 PM
The point of the exercise isn’t rebuilding the roster next year. It’s “who do you feel good about long term?”

Oh. I did not get that out of the question.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 25, 2022, 04:36:55 PM
Where do I find the FA listing to be able to do this?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 06:41:04 PM
The Google Machine
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 06:43:39 PM
Point being, there’s very little to get excited about roster wise with the Bears on offense or defense (for argument’s sake I’m leaving Fields out of it). Outside of Brisker, Jaylon Johnson, and maybe Kyler Gordon, what is there to be excited about?

Herbert, Kmet, Mooney, Claypool,  Jenkins are all usable pieces; but I don’t see any of them being multiple time pro-bowlers. If ever.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 06:46:28 PM
I think Saquon could be a Bear next year. We have bigger needs, but that would be exciting. Not sure he’d be all that much more expensive than resigning Montgomery would be.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 06:48:19 PM
I looked up the 2023 free agent class a few days back. Wasn’t overly exciting.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 25, 2022, 07:09:39 PM
Point being, there’s very little to get excited about roster wise with the Bears on offense or defense (for argument’s sake I’m leaving Fields out of it). Outside of Brisker, Jaylon Johnson, and maybe Kyler Gordon, what is there to be excited about?

Herbert, Kmet, Mooney, Claypool,  Jenkins are all usable pieces; but I don’t see any of them being multiple time pro-bowlers. If ever.

I thought we were just talking about the offense. 

Agree those guys on O seem fine. Not everyone can be All Pro. I can't tell you who else on the O line has the proper pad levels, footwork, etc to be decent with a little coaching. Obviously they have pass blocking issues. Is that scheme, talent or both? I don't know. They seem to be able to run block decently.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 25, 2022, 08:20:45 PM
Bears should draft this SHG QB. Kid does not mind throwing into tight spaces. Guys don't have to be college open before he throws the ball. Also doesn't mind taking a hit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 09:13:30 PM
I thought we were just talking about the offense. 

Agree those guys on O seem fine. Not everyone can be All Pro. I can't tell you who else on the O line has the proper pad levels, footwork, etc to be decent with a little coaching. Obviously they have pass blocking issues. Is that scheme, talent or both? I don't know. They seem to be able to run block decently.

We were. But there’s so little to get excited about, I had to include the secondary.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 09:15:10 PM
Specifically, we were talking about the Oline and receivers. And I don’t think we’re far apart on the lack of quality. I think we likely need a minimum of 6 upgrades at 9 positions. Minimum.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2022, 09:33:39 PM
Bears should draft this SHG QB. Kid does not mind throwing into tight spaces. Guys don't have to be college open before he throws the ball. Also doesn't mind taking a hit.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 26, 2022, 12:44:35 PM
Marvin Harrison Jr. would look good in a Bears uniform too!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 27, 2022, 11:55:44 AM
Nathan Peterman starting. I’m out. See you guys later.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 11:56:40 AM
Nathan Peterman starting. I’m out. See you guys later.

Glazer said Siemian took a shot then came back out and took reps with the ones.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:07:43 PM
Eberlose making Mike White look like an actual NFL QB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:16:27 PM
Siemian throwing a ball where the guy was only NFL open. Hopefully someone taking notes
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:17:38 PM
Wow, an actual NFL offense this series
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:19:14 PM
Can't believe Simien didn't take a sack there like the wingback would have
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:20:05 PM
If only Simien had decent receivers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 27, 2022, 12:21:05 PM
Randy Moss would’ve caught that, Claypool! Even despite the defensive PI that wasn’t called.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2022, 12:25:50 PM
Nathan Peterman starting. I’m out. See you guys later.

You sir, are no Adam Schefter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 27, 2022, 12:27:22 PM
You sir, are no Adam Schefter.

Or Colin Cowherd…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2022, 12:28:29 PM
Or Colin Cowherd…

You are really throating PAMan hard here. Going for the full finish?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2022, 12:29:03 PM
If only Simien had decent receivers.

Sounds like something a troll would say.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:29:58 PM
Getsy has schemed guys wide open and finally has a QB who knows to get rid of the ball. Getsy may be back into HC consideration by halftime.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2022, 12:30:04 PM
Can't believe Simien didn't take a sack there like the wingback would have

Troll of the Century award been doled out yet? PAMan clearly vying for it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:30:40 PM
Sounds like something a troll would say.

You are now calling yourself a troll? So this whole JFC is a Real QB act is just a troll job?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2022, 12:30:52 PM
Getsy has schemed guys wide open and finally has a QB who knows to get rid of the ball. Getsy may be back into HC consideration by halftime.


Yep. Dump it off to the RB and watch them rip off nice gains. Brilliant. Wonder why no other coaches have ever thought of this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:32:18 PM


Yep. Dump it off to the RB and watch them rip off nice gains. Brilliant. Wonder why no other coaches have ever thought of this.

Have a have a QB who can actually throw into the flat. DoctorintheFlat should have told you that at the door.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:34:18 PM
Bear would be in the playoff hunt if Simien had started since game 1
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 27, 2022, 12:35:09 PM
You sir, are no Adam Schefter.

Neither is Mike Garofalo apparently since that's who reported it.

Ok changed my mind. Just turned it on to see Siemian hit Claypool deep.

So..trade Fields?  :D
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:36:12 PM
Neither is Mike Garofalo apparently since that's who reported it.

Ok changed my mind. Just turned it on to see Siemian hit Claypool deep.

so..trade Fields?  :D

He's still a serviceable wingback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
Bear would be in the playoff hunt if Simien had started since game 1

If this isn’t outing yourself as a complete troll, I don’t know what it would take.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 27, 2022, 12:40:53 PM
Neither is Mike Garofalo apparently since that's who reported it.

Ok changed my mind. Just turned it on to see Siemian hit Claypool deep.

So..trade Fields?  :D

Quit deep throating ThePAMan!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 12:46:25 PM
If this isn’t outing yourself and a complete troll, I don’t know what it would take.

Getsy has schemed guys wide open all year but hasn't had a QB to get the ball to them.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 27, 2022, 08:43:03 PM
Sounds like Mooney's season is over. It never began really.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2022, 08:44:24 PM
Sounds like Mooney's season is over. It never began really.

Once OBJ is out of wherever they took him after his airport meltdown, maybe he will be a Bear!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2022, 09:06:52 PM
Sounds like Mooney's season is over. It never began really.

For reals? Ouch.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2022, 09:07:52 PM
Once OBJ is out of wherever they took him after his airport meltdown, maybe he will be a Bear!

Why would he go to a team that’s 3-9?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: frankiew on November 27, 2022, 09:19:06 PM
If Fields play next weeks, line will be Packers favored by 3

If no fields, Packers by 8
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2022, 09:48:50 PM
I’m guessing Fields is out until the week after the bye, but that might be too logical for an NFL team.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2022, 09:52:29 PM
If Fields play next weeks, line will be Packers favored by 3

If no fields, Packers by 8

If Fields plays I wouldn’t be shocked if they are favored. They’re definitely favored if Rodgers is out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2022, 12:36:01 PM
Mooney and EJax likely done for the year. Jackson is rumored to have torn an Achilles. He may be done as a Bear. That seems like an injury it usually takes a full year or more to recover from. All for losing for that draft pick, but not like this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2022, 12:37:16 PM
Regarding the draft. Bears are currently #2, but that is misleading as they’ve played more games than several other teams. If the other 3 win teams were to finish with the same record, sounds like the Bears would be drafting 5th.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2022, 05:57:19 PM
So wanted to put this into its own thread (like it deserves). But PAMan apparently called The Score. Played all the hits:

1) TERRIBLE passer…
2) Still waiting on Cade McNown to develop.
3) Missed a guy who was open once
4) We don’t play the single-wing anymore
5) Reminds him of Bobby Douglass
6) Seen nothing to indicate he’s getting better.

He did concede he was better than Trevor Siemian though, so mayyybbbeee not PAMan?

Lol

Fast forward to 4:33

https://go.audacy.com/LRThIh0Ikvb

Apparently PAMan’s name is Marty.




Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2022, 06:10:43 PM
So wanted to put this into its own thread (like it deserves). But PAMan apparently called The Score. Played all the hits:

1) TERRIBLE passer…
2) Still waiting on Cade McNown to develop.
3) Missed a guy who was open once
4) We don’t play the single-wing anymore
5) Reminds him of Bobby Douglass
6) Seen nothing to indicate he’s getting better.

He did concede he was better than Trevor Siemian though, so mayyybbbeee not PAMan?

Lol

Fast forward to 4:33

https://go.audacy.com/LRThIh0Ikvb

Apparently PAMan’s name is Marty.

Not an Android friendly link, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 28, 2022, 06:30:46 PM
So wanted to put this into its own thread (like it deserves). But PAMan apparently called The Score. Played all the hits:

1) TERRIBLE passer…
2) Still waiting on Cade McNown to develop.
3) Missed a guy who was open once
4) We don’t play the single-wing anymore
5) Reminds him of Bobby Douglass
6) Seen nothing to indicate he’s getting better.

He did concede he was better than Trevor Siemian though, so mayyybbbeee not PAMan?

Lol

Fast forward to 4:33

https://go.audacy.com/LRThIh0Ikvb

Apparently PAMan’s name is Marty.





Can you get Marty to join the cesspool ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2022, 06:34:55 PM
Can you get Marty to join the cesspool ?

He’s already here. He goes by the username ThePAMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2022, 06:36:39 PM
Can you get Marty to join the cesspool ?

Maybe Tempo can call him a fucking jagoff!

I should be upset that Tempo doesn't remember my name from our meeting eons ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2022, 06:56:30 PM
Is Rodgers going to start this weekend because Love actually looked competent against the Eagle when he came in??
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2022, 08:30:34 PM
Maybe Tempo can call him a fucking jagoff!

I should be upset that Tempo doesn't remember my name from our meeting eons ago.

Martin?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2022, 08:45:02 PM
Martin?

No, Equanimeous. Would have thought you would remember that one.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2022, 08:45:59 PM
No, Equanimeous. Would have thought you remember that one.

So not Martin/Marty?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2022, 08:46:57 PM
So not Martin/Marty?

Nope. But I will add him to the list of experts who are skeptical of JFC.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2022, 10:27:27 PM
Nope. But I will add him to the list of experts who are skeptical of JFC.

You, Mn, Marty, Dan McNeil (allegedly).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2022, 11:00:52 PM
So was on FB and saw this guy in the “people you may know” feature (don’t know him), but it immediately reminded me of Custard.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zBf1vcmW/1430-B2-E8-E5-FE-4624-8-D1-C-2-BD6-E0-F06-D24.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1CKSXZH)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 28, 2022, 11:38:43 PM
While funny, that couldn’t be further from the truth. (Not the Dominic version)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2022, 07:23:23 AM
While funny, that couldn’t be further from the truth. (Not the Dominic version)

Yes it was the contradiction that did it for me. I literally did think of you immediately when I saw “Bears fan for life.” Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 29, 2022, 11:10:10 AM
So was on FB and saw this guy in the “people you may know” feature (don’t know him), but it immediately reminded me of Custard.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zBf1vcmW/1430-B2-E8-E5-FE-4624-8-D1-C-2-BD6-E0-F06-D24.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1CKSXZH)

Now don’t be on here posting people’s personal stuff from Facebook! 😁
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2022, 11:49:49 AM
“50/50 balls are actually 28/72 balls and can’t live long with that philosophy.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2022, 09:17:23 PM
This interview is hilarious. This “coach” Jason Brown goes full meatball with Parkins and Spiegel. He’s on “Last Chance U” whatever the hell that is. Apparently fired from a real coaching job for texting to a German player “I’m your new Hitler.” Yikes.

Hilarious interview, though. This guy sounds like the guy at the end of the bar in your local tavern.

https://www.audacy.com/stations/670thescore/shows/parkins-spiegel-show-9ab0d/episodes/e38c44b5b3a1?action=AUTOPLAY_FULL&actionContentId=202-eyJyZWN1cnJpbmdfc2NoZWR1bGVfaWQiOiJjNzg5MDVhNy0yODM0LTQ1YzUtYjk2Ni00ZjEzZTc4MzYzZTYiLCJzaG93X2lkIjoiOGQzMWU3YWUtNDZkYi00YWFlLThhYjYtZWVjYjkzYjgzZmI2Iiwic3RhcnRfZGF0ZSI6IjIwMjItMTEtMjkiLCJzdGF0aW9uX2lkIjo0NTV9
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2022, 09:19:02 PM
My bad, tried to post direct link. Go to Audacy page and click 3:01 Parkins and Spiegel.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 29, 2022, 10:29:49 PM
Tempo's and The Score's guy Trent Dilfer going to be UAB football coach.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2022, 11:17:19 PM
Tempo's and The Score's guy Trent Dilfer going to be UAB football coach.

Just heard that on the talking box.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 02:50:33 PM
Sounding like Nathan Peterman as the starting quarterback for your Chicago Bears against Green Bay this weekend is a realistic possibility.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 01, 2022, 02:53:36 PM
Sounding like Nathan Peterman as the starting quarterback for your Chicago Bears against Green Bay this weekend is a realistic possibility.

? Justin Fields was a full go for the first time today in practice they just reported…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 01, 2022, 02:54:22 PM
Unless they start the practice squad qb they picked up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 02:56:41 PM
Sounding like Nathan Peterman as the starting quarterback for your Chicago Bears against Green Bay this weekend is a realistic possibility.

I was listing to Dumpy Dan McNeil's podcast on the Blue Line this AM and thought about the discussions here. He talked about how fans/media are cheering on the tank, but that the Bear need for guys who are going to be around the next 2 years to "make plays" and show they are "getting better" or else the tanking is worthless. He was disappointed in the Lion loss since the best rushing offense could not control the clock. Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 02:56:59 PM
? Justin Fields was a full go for the first time today in practice they just reported…

He could play. I still think there’s a good chance he sits and comes back after the bye. Playing him in a fairly meaningless game would be stupid. But then the people who run NFL teams aren’t always the smartest.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 02:57:38 PM
? Justin Fields was a full go for the first time today in practice they just reported…

If he plays, hopefully he plays smart and gets rid of the ball quickly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 02:59:50 PM
I was listing to Dumpy Dan McNeil's podcast on the Blue Line this AM and thought about the discussions here. He talked about how fans/media are cheering on the tank, but that the Bear need for guys who are going to be around the next 2 years to "make plays" and show they are "getting better" or else the tanking is worthless. He was disappointed in the Lion loss since the best rushing offense could not control the clock. Thoughts?

Lol Dan McNeil is a dumbfuck. A throwback to the leather helmets. I’d listen to him about hockey…if I cared about hockey.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:00:46 PM
If he plays, hopefully he plays smart and gets rid of the ball quickly.

The smartest way to play would be from the sidelines.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:02:27 PM
Only an idiot thinks beating the lions has more value than the #2 pick. What helps the Bears more? A win against the Lions in a lost season, or multiple high draft picks for that #2 pick? Only a numbnut would think beating the Lions.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 03:03:26 PM
Lol Dan McNeil is a dumbfuck. A throwback to the leather helmets. I’d listen to him about hockey…if I cared about hockey.

So no thoughts on how players who will be around the next couple of years need to show they can make plays?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:04:12 PM
Most of the guys on this team aren’t going to “get better,” because they are who they are. Journeyman end of the roster players. I’ve seen most of what I need to see from anyone i expect anything out of.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:05:03 PM
So no thoughts on how players who will be around the next couple of years need to show they can make plays?

See post after this one. I’m not worried about whether Justin Jones or Nicholas Morrow are part of the future. They aren’t.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
Only an idiot thinks beating the lions has more value than the #2 pick. What helps the Bears more? A win against the Lions in a lost season, or multiple high draft picks for that #2 pick? Only a numbnut would think beating the Lions.

The point is that there are guys currently playing who are going to be around the next 2 years. If they suck, which they look to suck, how is tanking going to turn this team around?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:07:06 PM
We can also see good play from individuals and still lose. That would be ideal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 03:07:28 PM
See post after this one. I’m not worried about whether Justin Jones or Nicholas Morrow are part of the future. They aren’t.

But there are guys who HAVE to be part of the future because you can't turn over your roster that quickly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:07:57 PM
The point is that there are guys currently playing who are going to be around the next 2 years. If they suck, which they look to suck, how is tanking going to turn this team around?

Hopefully the majority of them still around will be the backup to the backup.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 03:08:12 PM
We can also see good plays from individuals and still lose. That would be ideal.

Of course. But is that what we are seeing? The D has been brutal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 03:08:45 PM
Hopefully the majority of them still around will be the backup to the backup.

Now THAT is risky.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:09:45 PM
If you can get that #2 pick and trade it to a QB hungry franchise, it would bring in a great haul. Look at what San Fran did to the Bears, and what Miami accomplished trading down. Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle aren’t Dolphins if they didn’t do what they did in the draft.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:10:32 PM
The winning comes when you get better players. Period.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:17:12 PM
Of course. But is that what we are seeing? The D has been brutal.

I don’t expect 26-30 year old players who were never that good to start being good now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:20:00 PM
? Justin Fields was a full go for the first time today in practice they just reported…

Apparently that news broke about the time I posted the original post. Certainly throws a wrench into things. I still think there’s a decent chance Fields sits. Would be epically dumb to play him. Would be a bad day for Poles/Eberflus IMO. No one questions Fields’ toughness. This is also an injury that CAN get worse.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 03:33:50 PM
If you can get that #2 pick and trade it to a QB hungry franchise, it would bring in a great haul. Look at what San Fran did to the Bears, and what Miami accomplished trading down. Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle aren’t Dolphins if they didn’t do what they did in the draft.

Did those teams need as much on both sides of the ball as the Bear does?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 03:49:12 PM
Did those teams need as much on both sides of the ball as the Bear does?

You just made the case for trading the #2 pick for more picks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 01, 2022, 04:25:58 PM
You just made the case for trading the #2 pick for more picks.

We know they need a lot of help. The question is whether they will have the pieces in place by the time the JFC contract ends.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 04:44:32 PM
We know they need a lot of help. The question is whether they will have the pieces in place by the time the JFC contract ends.

Better chance that happens if you can parlay that 2nd pick into multiple high picks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 01, 2022, 05:46:29 PM
Didn't want Jalen Carter anyway.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 01, 2022, 07:35:59 PM
Didn't want Jalen Carter anyway.

Things changed when the 2nd pick became realistic. At that time Bears were about 6th. Jalen Carter would be a nice consolation prize if we fall to 3rd or worse.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 02, 2022, 07:15:51 AM
Tempo, don't waste your time on this drivel.
"By most accounts, the Chicago Bears were decisive winners of the first Khalil Mack trade with the Las Vegas Raiders."
And re trading Mack ...
" However, ESPN’s latest evaluation of the trade by insider Jeremy Fowler indicates the Bears are the winners. It’s not quite as lopsided as the first deal in 2018, but circumstances favor Chicago both for the immediate return in the draft pick and the ample salary cap space they have coming."
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bears-declared-winners-of-the-second-khalil-mack-trade/?fbclid=IwAR2K_J37APbT6udLfdFDUSe04qUCmamn7aqfVK9oGJ0xM2wexP02j_9PqPU&amp

Eh, 2 and 0 ain't bad.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 07:19:47 AM
Tempo, don't waste your time on this drivel.
"By most accounts, the Chicago Bears were decisive winners of the first Khalil Mack trade with the Las Vegas Raiders."
And re trading Mack ...
" However, ESPN’s latest evaluation of the trade by insider Jeremy Fowler indicates the Bears are the winners. It’s not quite as lopsided as the first deal in 2018, but circumstances favor Chicago both for the immediate return in the draft pick and the ample salary cap space they have coming."
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bears-declared-winners-of-the-second-khalil-mack-trade/?fbclid=IwAR2K_J37APbT6udLfdFDUSe04qUCmamn7aqfVK9oGJ0xM2wexP02j_9PqPU&amp

Eh, 2 and 0 ain't bad.

I got this Tempo. The article states the Bear won the initial trade because the Raider draft picks didn't pan out. Well, blame Jon Gruden for that, not that Pace proved to be any better at drafting, as we see from the current results on the field. That's weak.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 07:55:12 AM
They also didn’t factor in that Alvin Kamara was drafted with one of the Bears’ picks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 02, 2022, 08:17:13 AM
They also didn’t factor in that Alvin Kamara was drafted with one of the Bears’ picks.
They did bring up the Trubisky pick tho.
GMs don't always possess impeccable foresight, or hindsight.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 02, 2022, 08:28:48 AM
It’s pretty much a crap shoot honestly. Going back looking at quarterbacks drafted in the 1st round you can find sure-fire picks that completely missed. To look back and say you knew something everybody else didn’t know is complete hogwash. They study these players every day for years sometimes and can still be wrong.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 08:44:28 AM
It is largely a crapshoot. That’s why giving away extra picks is usually stupid.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 10:36:40 AM
Sounding more and more like Fields will play. Just dumb IMO. Give him another week of rest and play him after the bye.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 11:02:06 AM
Sounding more and more like Fields will play. Just dumb IMO. Give him another week of rest and play him after the bye.

Should have been sitting the whole year given how things have gone and he has not progressed as quickly as one would have hoped.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 12:15:50 PM
LMAO
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 12:24:00 PM
LMAO

You keep laughing. For now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 12:48:22 PM
You keep laughing. For now.

Lulz
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 02, 2022, 02:09:14 PM
Should have been sitting the whole year given how things have gone and he has not progressed as quickly as one would have hoped.
He plays this weekend, and he might be sitting the rest of the year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 02:18:21 PM
He plays this weekend, and he might be sitting the rest of the year.

Siemian out for the season. He took one for the team last week, that's for sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 02, 2022, 03:20:53 PM
Siemian out for the season. He took one for the team last week, that's for sure.

Damn.  I guess he took it in the ass one too many times.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ridingthegrange on December 02, 2022, 04:32:00 PM
Peterman time?  I'd give Fields some more recovery.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 04:56:34 PM
Read that the Trib Bear beat writer took it to Parkins today over his tank position. Just listened to it. Same exact Tempo arguments. Parkins called the Trib Bear guy "a condescending piece of crap" for calling him out.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 06:27:33 PM
Parkins was wrong to react the way he did, but argument wise he’s 100% correct. I just listened to it 2 minutes ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 06:28:11 PM
I wouldn’t call making a stupid argument “taking it to him.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 06:32:02 PM
The whole “gotta learn how to win” argument is so idiotic. You know when most teams “learn how to win?” When they get better players.

A texter made a great point. The ‘97 team “learned how to win” down the stretch and it earned them Curtis Enis when they could have had Peyton Manning.

If you’re 3-9 “learning how to win” is a meatball concept.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 06:45:00 PM
Winning 3 of their last 5 in a 4-12 season also catapulted them to a 4-12 season ‘98.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 02, 2022, 06:53:21 PM
Winning 3 of their last 5 in a 4-12 season also catapulted them to a 4-12 season ‘98.
They forgot to get better players for 1998 ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 06:54:44 PM
They forgot to get better players for 1998 ?

That’s what I’m thinking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 02, 2022, 06:58:55 PM
That’s what I’m thinking.
Next year's draft should be a slam dunk tho.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 07:02:17 PM
Next year's draft should be a slam dunk tho.

Gotta start somewhere. You like our current players?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 07:30:15 PM
Yawn. Miss the point. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 07:35:19 PM
Gotta start somewhere. You like our current players?

Whether you like it or not, plenty of these mopes are going to be on the team the next couple of years. It would be nice to see them figure things out like being able to hold a 14 point 4th quarter lead.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 02, 2022, 07:44:51 PM
Gotta start somewhere. You like our current players?
You like the ownership ?
I've watched the Bears for 50+ years.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 08:20:05 PM
Yawn. Miss the point. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

You don’t have to explain it, just tell me what “the point” is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 02, 2022, 08:20:16 PM
Read that the Trib Bear beat writer took it to Parkins today over his tank position. Just listened to it. Same exact Tempo arguments. Parkins called the Trib Bear guy "a condescending piece of crap" for calling him out.

Sports radio sucks so fucking bad. I can’t imagine actually listening to it at this point.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 08:21:06 PM
You like the ownership ?
I've watched the Bears for 50+ years.

I can’t control the ownership. Are you one of those people who thinks the Bears can’t be good because “McCaskeys?”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 08:22:51 PM
Whether you like it or not, plenty of these mopes are going to be on the team the next couple of years. It would be nice to see them figure things out like being able to hold a 14 point 4th quarter lead.

Not very many of them will be starting. Especially the ones playing this Sunday.

So let’s try it for the 10th time…how many current OL and receivers do you like as permanent starters? Also, the front 7.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 08:24:53 PM
Whether you like it or not, plenty of these mopes are going to be on the team the next couple of years. It would be nice to see them figure things out like being able to hold a 14 point 4th quarter lead.

Zzzzzzzzz

This team doesn’t look a lot like it will in 2 years.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 08:25:49 PM
When they hold that first 14 point 4th quarter lead, that’s when the wins will really start piling up!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 08:51:09 PM
Not very many of them will be starting. Especially the ones playing this Sunday.

So let’s try it for the 10th time…how many current OL and receivers do you like as permanent starters? Also, the front 7.

Already did this. You have to be realistic though.  They aren't ditching next year  every player that should be ditched.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 08:56:02 PM
Already did this. You have to be realistic though.  They aren't ditching next year  every player that should be ditched.

And let’s be realistic. Holding a 14 point lead or winning a game against the Lions has exactly jack shit to do with next year. This is the tear down year. Next year is when the rebuild actually starts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 08:59:35 PM
And let’s be realistic. Holding a 14 point lead or winning a game against the Lions has exactly jack shit to do with next year. This is the tear down year. Next year is when the rebuild actually starts.

Actually, it does. That was The Trib guy's point. Parkins is too dumb to understand why it does matter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 09:03:30 PM
Actually, it does. That was The Trib guy's point. Parkins is too dumb to understand why it does matter.

His “point” is not backed up by anything that resembles proof.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 09:23:44 PM
His “point” is not backed up by anything that resembles proof.

Given how much they have tanked over this century,  the Lions should be awesome under The Parkins/Tempo Tank Method. They aren't.  But the Bear somehow will be. Ok.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 09:25:34 PM
Add the Jaguars to the list of successful programs who stunk and improved themselves over night.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 09:33:57 PM
Given how much they have tanked over this century,  the Lions should be awesome under The Parkins/Tempo Tank Method. They aren't.  But the Bear somehow will be. Ok.

Again, stupid logic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 09:35:05 PM
Add the Jaguars to the list of successful programs who stunk and improved themselves over night.

They went from 3-13 to nearly beating Tom Brady in the AFC Championship game back around 2017.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 09:36:33 PM
Nowhere did I ever promise the best results from tanking. But I’d rather have the better draft assets than go 6-11 in the name of “learning how to win.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 09:41:35 PM
Nowhere did I ever promise the best results from tanking. But I’d rather have the better draft assets than go 6-11 in the name of “learning how to win.”

There is your mistake. Seeking to repeat the Lions' and Jags' mistakes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 09:45:07 PM
Lol. Just when I think you couldn’t possibly give a more meatball take. You prove me wrong. Repeatedly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 09:46:00 PM
Lol. Just when I think you couldn’t possibly give a more meatball take.

You want the Bear to be a successful franchise like the Lion. We get it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 09:55:07 PM
You want the Bear to be a successful franchise like the Lion. We get it.

No, more like the other franchises that turned draft assets into gold. There are numerous examples.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 09:56:54 PM
No, more like the other franchises that turned draft assets into gold. There are numerous examples.

Goalposts moved. Got it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 09:58:27 PM
Goalposts moved. Got it.

You make zero fucking sense. Less as time goes by. There is zero evidence to suggest a win against the Lions to go 4-8 is better than getting a higher draft pick. None whatsoever.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 02, 2022, 10:47:50 PM
It just gets harder and harder each year to care about a sport where teams are incentivized to lose. And guess what? The teams that suck the worst usually still suck anyways.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 10:51:13 PM
You make zero fucking sense. Less as time goes by. There is zero evidence to suggest a win against the Lions to go 4-8 is better than getting a higher draft pick. None whatsoever.

There is zero evidence that the Bear will be any better next year by blowing 14 point 4th quarter leads this year even with the higher draft pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 02, 2022, 11:09:03 PM
There is zero evidence that the Bear will be any better next year by blowing 14 point 4th quarter leads this year even with the higher draft pick.

Time will tell. There’s also zero evidence going 6-11 would help them.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 02, 2022, 11:18:10 PM
Time will tell. There’s also zero evidence going 6-11 would help them.

Besides that it would mean the mopes who are going to be around the next couple of years actually played better?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 05:22:57 AM
Besides that it would mean the mopes who are going to be around the next couple of years actually played better?

Ugh, had a whole paragraph response typed and somehow lost it. Anyway, the gist of it was we’ve seen 3-13 teams go 13-3 the next year or within 2 years. The 2017 Bears were 5-11 and went 12-4 in 2018. And those turnarounds had nothing to do win mythical golden wins that occurred the year before.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 05:31:56 AM
Ugh, had a whole paragraph response typed and somehow lost it. Anyway, the gist of it was we’ve seen 3-13 teams go 13-3 the next year or within 2 years. The 2017 Bears were 5-11 and went 12-4 in 2018. And those turnarounds had nothing to do win mythical golden wins that occurred the year before.

Already had some players that could make plays and then got the favorable schedule after being crappy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 05:39:35 AM
Imagine valuing a win against the Lions or Packers in a 3-9 season over the right to draft CJ Stroud or Bryce Young, which you could turn into multiple high draft picks. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 05:45:08 AM
Besides that it would mean the mopes who are going to be around the next couple of years actually played better?

Again, I refer you to 1997 when they “finished strong,” lost out on Peyton Manning, then went 4-12 the next year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 05:48:32 AM
Already had some players that could make plays and then got the favorable schedule after being crappy.

That’s reasonable enough, and it had absolutely zero to do with any “wins” they accrued in 2017.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 05:49:10 AM
Imagine valuing a win against the Lions or Packers in a 3-9 season over the right to draft CJ Stroud or Bryce Young, which you could turn into multiple high draft picks.

Stroud sucks, like all OSU QBs. Mike Tomczak looking make the best of a bad bunch.

Again, you have missed the point about the blowing of a 14 point 4th quarter lead. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 05:49:22 AM
In fact, losing helped them because they got the easier schedule out of it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 05:50:05 AM
That’s reasonable enough, and it had absolutely zero to do with any “wins” they accrued in 2017.

Excluding that said players showing they could make plays to actually win a game, sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 05:50:26 AM
Stroud sucks, like all OSU QBs. Mike Tomczak looking make the best of a bad bunch.

Again, you have missed the point about the blowing of a 14 point 4th quarter lead. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Even better. Because the Bears won’t be drafting him. They’ll probably trade him to Atlanta or Carolina for 3 1st round draft picks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 05:50:58 AM
In fact, losing helped them because they got the easier schedule out of it.

Too bad they won any games at all. Sure has worked out well for the Lion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 05:52:32 AM
There is literally zero evidence (and no logic) behind thinking the Bears holding onto a lead this year somehow helps them next year. Are you even listening to yourself? That line of thinking is pretty absurd.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 05:54:48 AM
Too bad they won any games at all. Sure has worked out well for the Lion.

(https://i.postimg.cc/BQzwv8s2/8-FEFE436-4-FD0-491-F-A0-A1-459-B7-B6-B6500.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/56wm72Xt)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 06:06:56 AM
There is literally zero evidence (and no logic) behind thinking the Bears holding onto a lead this year somehow helps them next year. Are you even listening to yourself? That line of thinking is pretty absurd.

According to your and Parkins' "logic" the Lions should be the Brady Pats by now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 06:11:19 AM
There no guarantees, ever. Especially when it comes to the worst run franchise in the NFL (and believe it or not, it’s not the Bears).

What I know pretty well for sure is that a “win” in a lost season (let’s say 4-13) doesn’t bring you success next year. Even more so when your personnel will be undergoing major changes. There is literally no evidence holding on to win against Detroit catapults them to more success next year, so stop with the nonsense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 03, 2022, 06:13:39 AM
According to your and Parkins' "logic" the Lions should be the Brady Pats by now.
Are you one of those people who think the Lions aren't good because of the Fords ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 06:27:22 AM
Are you one of those people who think the Lions aren't good because of the Fords ?

It’s part of it. I also know the Bears have in no small way struggled because of the McCaskeys. But they are not “doomed” to failure because of the McCaskeys. Yes, neither organization has historically been well run. But the Bears have shown that they’re willing to let the football people run the organization (for the most part). Let’s just hope they hired a good person to run it this time. I’m not going to judge Poles heavily one way or the other until I see further results.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 06:28:55 AM
Are you one of those people who think the Lions aren't good because of the Fords ?

Mostly I think the Lions are bad because the people they’ve picked to run their franchise were bad. Hello, Matt Millen…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 06:40:07 AM
Do I think the McCaskeys are a “net positive” or even neutral? No, of course not. Does that mean I sit around with my mouthful of deep dish pizza yelling “OMG the Bears will never be good because McCaskeys!!” No.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 03, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
It’s part of it. I also know the Bears have in no small way struggled because of the McCaskeys. But they are not “doomed” to failure because of the McCaskeys. Yes, neither organization has historically been well run. But the Bears have shown that they’re willing to let the football people run the organization (for the most part). Let’s just hope they hired a good person to run it this time. I’m not going to judge Poles heavily one way or the other until I see further results.
How does "You like the ownership ?" get to  “doomed” to failure ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 08:42:35 AM
How does "You like the ownership ?" get to  “doomed” to failure ?

What’s your point then? Virtually no one “likes” ownership.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 08:44:22 AM
Are the McCaskeys a net negative? Yes. Are they doomed to failure due to ownership? No.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 03, 2022, 09:06:53 AM
Are the McCaskeys a net negative? Yes. Are they doomed to failure due to ownership? No.

What’s the common denominator in being mostly awful the last 60 or so years?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 09:16:12 AM
What’s the common denominator in being mostly awful the last 60 or so years?

This argument somewhat resembles the claim that the “Democratic Party is the party of the KKK.” In some ways that’s true. In current context, it’s not.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 03, 2022, 09:23:38 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/qD7XkRC/3581530991-4c7e81abeb-b.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p1bGJ3Q)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 10:03:55 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/qD7XkRC/3581530991-4c7e81abeb-b.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p1bGJ3Q)

Why not just make your point?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 10:24:37 AM
Mostly I think the Lions are bad because the people they’ve picked to run their franchise were bad. Hello, Matt Millen…

Doesn't Velus Jones destroy the notion that the Bear are drafting their way out of this?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 10:27:43 AM
Why not just make your point?

One could say he did.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 10:43:47 AM
Doesn't Velus Jones destroy the notion that the Bear are drafting their way out of this?

The draft is a bust because one guy (a 3rd rounder) isn’t panning out yet (probably won’t)? Brisker looks excellent. I think Gordon and Jones can be good. Don’t know if Jones is a LT but he’s performed decently for a 5th round rookie at the 3rd toughest position in the NFL. So far this draft looks ok.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 10:45:30 AM
Robinson has also flashed as a pass rusher.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 10:56:53 AM
The draft is a bust because one guy (a 3rd rounder) isn’t panning out yet (probably won’t)? Brisker looks excellent. I think Gordon and Jones can be good. Don’t know if Jones is a LT but he’s performed decently for a 5th round rookie at the 3rd toughest position in the NFL. So far this draft looks ok.

You need to hit on every pick if you are going to turnover all the guys you want to turnover.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 11:30:04 AM
You need to hit on every pick if you are going to turnover all the guys you want to turnover.

Ok, so you’re obviously trolling me. Because no one “hits on every pick.” And you can’t be dumb enough to think they would.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 03, 2022, 11:50:21 AM
Ok, so you’re obviously trolling me. Because no one “hits on every pick.” And you can’t be dumb enough to think they would.

You stated like 90% of our roster won’t even be here next year…

Now tell me how the hell that’s gonna happen if we DON’T hit on every pick?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 12:00:07 PM
You stated like 90% of our roster won’t even be here next year…

Now tell me how the hell that’s gonna happen if we DON’T hit on every pick?!

Yeah, I’m gonna need you to find where I said that. I’ll wait.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 12:05:18 PM
Ok, so you’re obviously trolling me. Because no one “hits on every pick.” And you can’t be dumb enough to think they would.

You want to swap out many linemen on both sides of the ball for next year. Can't have a Velus Jones type pick if you want to do that and fill all the other holes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 12:05:38 PM
You stated like 90% of our roster won’t even be here next year…

Now tell me how the hell that’s gonna happen if we DON’T hit on every pick?!

Exactly
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 03, 2022, 12:06:43 PM


(https://i.ibb.co/2gDp03j/Screenshot-20221203-120119.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r4CXK2Z)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 12:15:34 PM
Exactly

Only I’m about 99.9% certain I never said that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 12:16:16 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/2gDp03j/Screenshot-20221203-120119.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r4CXK2Z)

So about 60% are smart football fans.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 12:18:31 PM
Exactly

I think about 3 starters on the OLine might be doable. Maybe 3-4 on the front 7. Most of the rest of the team stays the same. So maybe 10 new players on a 53 man roster. Not sure, but don’t think 10 out of 53 = 90%
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 01:06:41 PM
IMO 3 new starters on offense and 4-5 on defense is reasonably realistic. Let’s say 13-17 new players on the 53 man. So that would mean I not only don’t expect 90% roster turnover, but I expect around 70% of the roster to return. “Turning over 90% of the roster in one year” is not anything I’ve said remotely. I do expect reduced roles for a large number of players.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 01:07:08 PM
So about 60% are smart football fans.

Now that is good comedy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 01:09:28 PM
With all those guys you have sticking around, who can't make plays now, you make the Bear sound like the Lion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 01:12:55 PM
With all those guys you have sticking around, who can't make plays now, you make the Bear sound like the Lion.

Definitely not predicting Super Bowl next year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 01:13:36 PM
Some of the players we have should be better if they are backups, rotational players rather than starters.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 01:17:24 PM
Definitely not predicting Super Bowl next year.

Ok. That is a positive step.

How much better do you think they will be? Granted, the draft and FA has not occured, and schedule not released. What win range you hoping to see next year?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 01:59:48 PM
Don't know where to put this. Jim O'Donnell taking shots at Tempo's guy Bernstein...

Quote
A droning, D-tier sports talk bore now grooming his high school-age son to follow in his snoozy ear buds? Only in as desolate a major radio market as Chicago. …

https://e-edition.dailyherald.com/infinity/article_popover_share.aspx?guid=1f76cbcc-1807-4eef-ab2f-1285b9c984cb
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 03:00:05 PM
Ok. That is a positive step.

How much better do you think they will be? Granted, the draft and FA has not occured, and schedule not released. What win range you hoping to see next year?

I could see the Bears being vastly improved with a strong free agent group. GB down, Lions are still the Lions until further notice. Minnesota is ok, not a juggernaut. Throw in a weak schedule, weak NFC, playoffs possible.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 03:01:19 PM
I could see the Bears being vastly improved with a strong free agent group. GB down, Lions are still the Lions until further notice. Minnesota is ok, not a juggernaut. Throw in a weak schedule, weak NFC, playoffs possible.
  7 to 9 wins?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 03:09:42 PM
  7 to 9 wins?

I’d like to see the schedule first.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 03:09:53 PM
But sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 03:10:15 PM
Would also like to see the free agent class.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 03, 2022, 03:15:38 PM
If the Bears are down 2 at the 12 with 2 seconds left on Sun, do the 60% smart people call for a missed fg or Peterman taking a knee ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 03, 2022, 04:16:48 PM
If the Bears are down 2 at the 12 with 2 seconds left on Sun, do the 60% smart people call for a missed fg or Peterman taking a knee ?

Run Ebner up the gut.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 12:06:49 PM
JFC hasn't run yet and threw a ball in the flat.  Good to start
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 12:08:59 PM
That was a bad throw after a good throw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 04, 2022, 12:22:11 PM
Is it windy in the Windy city ? That fg looked like some of my fairway wood shots.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 12:28:49 PM
Bear is going to win this game and piss Tempo off
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 04, 2022, 12:30:04 PM
Bear is going to win this game and piss Tempo off
And the 60% smart.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 12:54:04 PM
Just when JFC starts looking like a QB, granted it is the Packer D, Claypool goes down
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 04, 2022, 01:06:33 PM
JFC and the misfits he's forced to play with having a good half.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 01:16:55 PM
I just checked into a hotel in Playa del Carmen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 01:19:12 PM
Stuck in the lobby because the desk manager can’t find housekeeping.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 01:19:53 PM
Bear is going to win this game and piss Tempo off

Yes, that would annoy me. Guess I’ll get drunk in Mexico to feel better.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 01:20:55 PM
I just checked into a hotel in Playa del Carmen.

Wayne from Playa del Carmen sounds better for your next call to Joe Moore or whatever his name is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 04, 2022, 01:24:56 PM
Nagy level timeout right there
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 01:29:58 PM
Go Pack, Go!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 01:30:50 PM
How is that this abomination of a defense is stifling Aaron Rodgers? Even 39 year old Aaron Rodgers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 01:31:23 PM
Wayne from Playa del Carmen sounds better for your next call to Joe Moore or whatever his name is.

That does sound pretty good.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 01:39:01 PM
How is that this abomination of a defense is stifling Aaron Rodgers? Even 39 year old Aaron Rodgers.

Couple of guys making plays this week
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 01:42:07 PM
Catch the ball, jackass
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 01:45:06 PM
Nagy level timeout right there

Yes, that was. Not waiting until Jan 6th to determine that this coaching staff has issues.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 04, 2022, 02:08:08 PM
How is that this abomination of a defense is stifling Aaron Rodgers? Even 39 year old Aaron Rodgers.
Soon to be discards playing for their football lives.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:08:44 PM
Soon to be discards playing for their football lives.

Plus, maybe the Packers suck too.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:17:08 PM
The Bear, especially the coaching staff, have sucked this 2d half so far.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:17:39 PM
What was Getsy doing in the Red Zone?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:21:45 PM
That's what I want to see!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:22:13 PM
Want to see that dump off to!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 04, 2022, 02:22:28 PM
I forgot about Harry lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 04, 2022, 02:24:22 PM
Getsy’s play calling in GB territory sucks
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:24:33 PM
WTF
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:24:47 PM
Betsy’s play calling in GB territory sucks

It really does.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 04, 2022, 02:25:11 PM
That’s what happens when you keep playing for FGs
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:31:23 PM
Not seeing anyone making plays now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:31:57 PM
Getting blown off the LOS
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:37:40 PM
Sanborn made a play. Let's see a 4th quarter comeback
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:42:08 PM
Fuck
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 04, 2022, 02:42:30 PM
Sanborn made a play. Let's see a 4th quarter comeback
Dont say a word
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:43:32 PM
He's got to come back for that ball
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 04, 2022, 02:46:34 PM
St. Brown showing a very weak effort not coming back for the ball. Hung Fields out to dry.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:55:46 PM
Can't blame the receivers for that one
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Another 4th quarter lead blown
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 04, 2022, 02:57:21 PM
Yeah that was on Fields. Just trying to make something happen there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 02:58:23 PM
Yeah that was on Fields. Just trying to make something happen there.

Yep..would have liked to see what was going on on the other side of the field
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 04, 2022, 03:05:00 PM
What was Getsy doing in the Red Zone?

Trying to lose the game. Seriously, you know they want to and have been instructed to do so, right?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 03:13:10 PM
Who the hell is traveling on Bear - Packer Sunday? WTF is up with that, Tempo?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 04:12:49 PM
Tempo, the tank plan isn't going to work unless this coaching staff gets a whole lot better. They have sucked in the 2d half of games.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 04, 2022, 05:03:32 PM
Tempo, the tank plan isn't going to work unless this coaching staff gets a whole lot better. They have sucked in the 2d half of games.

Again I would have to reiterate that I’m sure it’s by design. 3rd and long, run the ball?! Yeah, I don’t think the staff is trying to win anything the rest of this year and I’d think that’s obvious doing things like that. They’d be fools to win now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 05:09:17 PM
Again I would have to reiterate that I’m sure it’s by design. 3rd and long, run the ball?! Yeah, I don’t think the staff is trying to win anything the rest of this year and I’d think that’s obvious doing things like that. They’d be fools to win now.

I don't know, man. We have seen a lot of stupid coaches over the years. Matt Nagy comes to mind.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 04, 2022, 05:29:41 PM
I don't know, man. We have seen a lot of stupid coaches over the years. Matt Nagy comes to mind.

I understand and feel your skepticism. I’m sure this all was talked about with coaches from Poles once they traded Quinn and Smith. The season was over and the plan all along, so everybody was on the same page.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 05:59:00 PM
I understand and feel your skepticism. I’m sure this all was talked about with coaches from Poles once they traded Quinn and Smith. The season was over and the plan all along, so everybody was on the same page.

Like how the Dolphin owner allegedly told the then coach to Tank for Tua?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 04, 2022, 06:35:21 PM
Like how the Dolphin owner allegedly told the then coach to Tank for Tua?

We can just hope we end up like the Dolphins and not the Lions.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 06:35:52 PM
Who the hell is traveling on Bear - Packer Sunday? WTF is up with that, Tempo?

Man, I was so incredibly high 2 hours ago, I couldn’t remember what we were talking about, 5 seconds earlier. Went to an amazing dinner and could barely get myself to eat. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 06:36:52 PM
Can’t believe the Bears came from ahead to lose! Woo hoo!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 04, 2022, 06:37:45 PM
Man, I was so incredibly high 2 hours ago, I couldn’t remember what we were talking about, 5 seconds later. Went to an amazing dinner and could barely get myself to eat. Lol
Good for you. Do it again tomorrow. Have a great time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 04, 2022, 06:38:42 PM
Like how the Dolphin owner allegedly told the then coach to Tank for Tua?
Was there an "order" ? Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 06:42:29 PM
Was there an "order" ? Lol.

I think there was
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 06:43:37 PM
We can just hope we end up like the Dolphins and not the Lions.

True. The Lion appears to be playing themselves out of a decent draft pick. The fools!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 07:03:28 PM
With Garoppolo being out now the NFC is wide open. Too bad the Bear are incompetent.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 07:04:46 PM
The Jimmy G is out?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 07:05:16 PM
So not much detail on the bears game. How’d it look?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 07:26:59 PM
So not much detail on the bears game. How’d it look?

Probably Fields best all around game. Second half sucked. Another blown 4th quarter lead and Fields int to close it out. You would have enjoyed it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 07:44:06 PM
Probably Fields best all around game. Second half sucked. Another blown 4th quarter lead and Fields int to close it out. You would have enjoyed it.

Minus the interception, I absolutely would have!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 07:44:55 PM
If you don’t blow this, you’re gonna be happy once we get those 3 1st rounders!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 07:45:41 PM
Perfect scenario would be to get the 4th or 5th team to trade up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2022, 07:47:55 PM
Probably Fields best all around game. Second half sucked. Another blown 4th quarter lead and Fields int to close it out. You would have enjoyed it.

Saw a few highlights. That run, and that pass to EQ were insane.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2022, 07:54:35 PM
Minus the interception, I absolutely would have!

Getsy"s red zone play calling in the 2d half was atrocious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 04, 2022, 08:21:29 PM
Saw a few highlights. That run, and that pass to EQ were insane.
True, and the offense looked like a team unit the 1st half.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2022, 01:56:20 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/4y5GTDXG/C3-A57-E85-7774-4-FC5-9-CE4-F1-FF5-C27-EA98.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHGvNdyY)

This is several hours after I was high as a kite.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2022, 01:58:14 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Nj2n63Z0/3-C06-B183-A4-FE-4-EB1-9673-857-ACAB2-E3-DC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYmGmBrt)

Hotel pool.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2022, 07:11:39 AM
You should have posted a JFC-related video you made while intoxicated.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 05, 2022, 08:03:27 AM
Looks like a nice place. Get the Uber app glitch fixed? Where’s Jeff Frank?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 05, 2022, 08:21:23 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/4y5GTDXG/C3-A57-E85-7774-4-FC5-9-CE4-F1-FF5-C27-EA98.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHGvNdyY)

This is several hours after I was high as a kite.

Wtf is wrong with that dude's face? Is that a mosquito bite?

He looks miserable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2022, 11:47:38 AM
Wtf is wrong with that dude's face? Is that a mosquito bite?

He looks miserable.

Maybe Tempo punched him while stoned after he said JFC was a wingback and then Tempo bought him some ice cream.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2022, 12:40:51 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/9FM740j7/332-D5-E43-B2-DE-45-BB-8233-F7-C103-D0-A808.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WtB3C2zN)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2022, 12:41:47 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/NfHQPv6n/BEAA64-A3-9-BE7-4-AC1-839-E-8-DCA0-A28-DB64.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJm0J5tL)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2022, 12:43:41 PM
Good brunch.

(https://i.postimg.cc/rFkqbYfF/B106-F9-E0-DBC9-4-D3-E-8-A9-A-A0-CC566016-BF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmxV45Vt)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2022, 12:46:07 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/mZ6QyCjw/7-E43449-B-C388-4-D2-A-A9-EE-4-DAB58821335.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ThgLRyZL)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2022, 12:49:21 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/QNRqrc7M/6-B48-F3-DD-745-E-40-B6-9-EFF-78-EA6-CD3-D09-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmPGrJBV)

Not really watching, but watched Croatia beat Japan on penalty kicks while having my chilaquiles. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on December 05, 2022, 01:03:26 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/4y5GTDXG/C3-A57-E85-7774-4-FC5-9-CE4-F1-FF5-C27-EA98.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHGvNdyY)

This is several hours after I was high as a kite.

You and your boyfriend out for ice cream? 😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2022, 03:22:19 PM
You and your boyfriend out for ice cream? 😂

The ice cream was really good, the sex was even better!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2022, 04:40:43 PM
Pretty sure a 16 year old just made me margarita.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2022, 08:03:46 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/0yXLsxg9/41-DADBA2-FA26-4-B76-A199-70320666-B058.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/87WyR2PY)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 09, 2022, 06:34:01 PM
So PAMan, I was just landing in Playa del Carmen and didn’t get to watch the game. I heard it might have been Fields’ best all-around game? What say you? Any progress detected?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 10, 2022, 01:33:13 AM
So PAMan, I was just landing in Playa del Carmen and didn’t get to watch the game. I heard it might have been Fields’ best all-around game? What say you? Any progress detected?

I posted when you were stoned that it was his best game despite the usual crap 4th quarter. Packer suck ass defense was a qualifier.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 12, 2022, 08:10:30 AM
I’d like to expand the question to PAMan about how many of the OL/receivers he wants as a long-term starter to include the defensive front 7. So let’s call it 16 positions, how many do you see as the long term answer? I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 12, 2022, 10:25:35 AM
I’d like to expand the question to PAMan about how many of the OL/receivers he wants as a long-term starter to include the defensive front 7. So let’s call it 16 positions, how many do you see as the long term answer? I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.
Without reality intervening?

OL - 1
WR - 0-1 Mooney now a question mark
RB - 2
Wingback - 0
TE- 1
DL- 0
LB - 0
DB - 4 (!)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 12, 2022, 10:36:27 AM
[Without reality intervening?

OL - 1
WR - 0-1 Mooney now a question mark
RB - 2
Wingback - 0
TE- 1
DL- 0
LB - 0
DB - 4 (!)]


So 2/2.5 out of 16. Got it. But why isn’t JFC winning?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 12, 2022, 12:19:37 PM
You can clearly see he marked “0” for JFC’s position…

So one could ultimately say/ask/argue why isn’t the 2 RB’s, 1 OL, or Mooney (possibly) winning?! Could JFC be the reason?! It appears that’s how he views it. He doesn’t see him as a long-term answer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 12, 2022, 12:43:42 PM
[Without reality intervening?

OL - 1
WR - 0-1 Mooney now a question mark
RB - 2
Wingback - 0
TE- 1
DL- 0
LB - 0
DB - 4 (!)]


So 2/2.5 out of 16. Got it. But why isn’t JFC winning?!

As reality is not intervening, I would replace everyone with 1st team Pro Bowlers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 12, 2022, 12:44:22 PM
You can clearly see he marked “0” for JFC’s position…

So one could ultimately say/ask/argue why isn’t the 2 RB’s, 1 OL, or Mooney (possibly) winning?! Could JFC be the reason?! It appears that’s how he views it. He doesn’t see him as a long-term answer.

Very observant!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 12, 2022, 12:49:02 PM
Very observant!

Unlike others. It would also appear fairly obvious, but 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 12, 2022, 10:35:07 PM
I just got dumber having read all that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 12, 2022, 10:49:04 PM
I just got dumber having read all that.

See how Kyler Murray got hurt tonight?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 06:41:09 AM
See how Kyler Murray got hurt tonight?

Playing football?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 07:02:05 AM
Did you see how Jimmy G got hurt?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2022, 10:04:46 AM
Did you see how Jimmy G got hurt?

Yes I did. Trying to run when being sacked.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 10:08:35 AM
Yes I did. Trying to run when being sacked.

So he should have just stood there and gotten clobbered?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2022, 10:15:00 AM
So he should have just stood there and gotten clobbered?

Gone down.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 10:18:35 AM
Gone down.

Lmao
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2022, 10:19:52 AM
Lmao

Would have been smarter than trying to drag two defenders.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 10:22:32 AM
Expecting a quarterback to not try to escape the rush isn’t a realistic expectation. Also a recipe for getting clobbered a lot.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 10:26:53 AM
So your method of a quarterback defending himself is to let the defender hit him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2022, 10:27:33 AM
Expecting a quarterback to not try to escape the rush isn’t a realistic expectation. Also a recipe for getting clobbered a lot.

He already had 2 guys on him and was trying to drag them. That is how you get a broken foot, high ankle sprain, MCL/ACL, etc. when the legs get twisted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2022, 10:27:52 AM
So your method of a quarterback defending himself is to let the defender hit him.

He was already in the grasp of 2 guys.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 10:43:25 AM
This is called football. No one is going to stand there and let someone hit him in the face. He eventually fell forward which usually would be advantageous. This literally happens all the time it’s football.

Any quarterback that just gives himself up when pressured is going to get pulled and won’t have the respect of his teammates. Again, your expectations are completely unrealistic.

https://youtu.be/wczWtw6ORJ4
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2022, 10:51:35 AM
This is called football. No one is going to stand there and let someone hit him in the face. He eventually fell forward which usually would be advantageous. This literally happens all the time it’s football.

Any quarterback that just gives himself up when pressured is going to get pulled and won’t have the respect of his teammates. Again, your expectations are completely unrealistic.

https://youtu.be/wczWtw6ORJ4

"Doomed from the start" and tries to drag two guys who have him in their grasp.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 10:55:56 AM
Quintus: “Men should know when they’re conquered…”

Maximus: “Would you Quintus? Would I?”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 13, 2022, 10:59:15 AM
Quintus: “Men should know when they’re conquered…”

Maximus: “Would you Quintus? Would I?”

Love that movie! 🫶🏼
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 11:02:25 AM
Love that movie! 🫶🏼

It’s my 2nd favorite of all-time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2022, 11:22:29 AM
It’s my 2nd favorite of all-time.

Behind?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 13, 2022, 11:36:43 AM
Behind?

Yes, yes, Tempo is a behind. Surprised you didn’t know that and asked it as a question.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 13, 2022, 11:37:30 AM
His own documentary he’s making of himself. Duh.

You’re way off your game today.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2022, 11:39:59 AM
His own documentary he’s making of himself. Duh.

You’re way off your game today.

Man, I suck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 13, 2022, 11:45:15 AM
Man, I suck.
You're not perfect.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 11:48:05 AM
Behind?

(https://i.postimg.cc/BbZ4RNSm/08-FE1-FE1-8-A3-C-45-FB-A5-CC-5797-A5820021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ftPG9c0d)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 01:47:05 PM
His own documentary he’s making of himself. Duh.

You’re way off your game today.

It wouldn’t be as interesting as I’d like it be, unfortunately.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 01:47:51 PM
You're not perfect.

You watch your dirty little mouth. Don’t listen to him, PAMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 13, 2022, 02:00:14 PM
It wouldn’t be as interesting as I’d like it be, unfortunately.

Still in the closet?! 😁 it’s 2022, Tempo. Open up and tell people!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 02:00:58 PM
Sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2022, 06:21:42 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/BbZ4RNSm/08-FE1-FE1-8-A3-C-45-FB-A5-CC-5797-A5820021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ftPG9c0d)

I always thought Pottersville looked far more interesting than Bedford Falls.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 06:23:30 PM
"Doomed from the start" and tries to drag two guys who have him in their grasp.

If only quarterbacks had the benefit of hindsight. It’s easy to say “doomed from the start” once the play is over. Any quarterback who gives himself up regularly under pressure is going to lose the respect of his teammates and find a spot on the bench.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2022, 09:00:33 PM
If only quarterbacks had the benefit of hindsight. It’s easy to say “doomed from the start” once the play is over. Any quarterback who gives himself up regularly under pressure is going to lose the respect of his teammates and find a spot on the bench.

Regularly is the key word here....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 10:00:12 PM
Regularly is the key word here....

So how is a guy supposed to know with a high degree of accuracy when to give himself up? You ever played football? It’s easy to say after the fact “should have given himself up.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2022, 10:01:25 PM
And imagine trying to make those decisions at NFL speed. You’re spewing nonsense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 15, 2022, 01:42:08 PM
Tempo, did you read this article?

https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20221214/odonnell-is-misuse-of-fields-a-bad-sign-of-things-to-come-for-the-bears-and-arlington-park

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 15, 2022, 06:11:42 PM
No, why would I read the Daily Herald? Who is Jim O’Donnell? That’s the most disjointed gobbledygook I’ve probably ever read. He wouldn’t be a top 10 writer for the Daily Illini.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 15, 2022, 06:27:53 PM
No, why would I read the Daily Herald? Who is Jim O’Donnell? That’s the most disjointed gobbledygook I’ve probably ever read. He wouldn’t be a top 10 writer for the Daily Illini.

He's paid for his opinions
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 15, 2022, 09:11:19 PM
He's paid for his opinions

So are the 25 other people whose opinions I’ve offered you that you shut down. And probably paid a lot more than he is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 15, 2022, 09:12:03 PM
He's paid for his opinions

Seriously though, that article wasn’t even coherent. I could have slapped together a better article in 30 minutes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 15, 2022, 09:13:12 PM
So are the 25 other people whose opinions I’ve offered you that you shut down.

I don't think people get paid to post their opinions on The Twitter or The YouTube, but I could be wrong. I get paid to post my opinions here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 15, 2022, 09:14:22 PM
Seriously though, that article wasn’t even coherent. I could have slapped together a better article in 30 minutes.

I thought you might appreciate it since it looked like one of your 15 posts in a row streams.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 15, 2022, 09:15:37 PM
I don't think people get paid to post their opinions on The Twitter or The YouTube, but I could be wrong. I get paid to post my opinions here.

You don’t think Kurt Warner, Trent Dilfer, Tim Jenkins, and the other analysts (and media) that I posted get paid? I assure you they do. A lot more than Jim O’Donnell with the Daily Herald.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 15, 2022, 09:16:32 PM
You act like I posted random TikTok videos from people with 6 followers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 15, 2022, 09:27:26 PM
You don’t think Kurt Warner, Trent Dilfer, Tim Jenkins, and the other analysts (and media) that I posted get paid? I assure you they do. A lot more than Jim O’Donnell with the Daily Herald.

I think they are shills. Like Custard shills for Illini coaches.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 15, 2022, 09:44:33 PM
This guy gives really good analysis. Hilarious comment about self-loathing Bears fans and Mike North.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ0QZisa_FM
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 15, 2022, 10:03:55 PM
This guy gives really good analysis. Hilarious comment about self-loathing Bears fans and Mike North.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ0QZisa_FM

I actually got 9 min in until Bernstein started droning on and on. He is the worst.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 15, 2022, 10:04:45 PM
I knew that would be your response. Surprised you got 9 minutes in.

You should finish it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on December 16, 2022, 09:28:55 AM
Seriously though, that article wasn’t even coherent. I could have slapped together a better article in 30 minutes.

It was crappily written, but the central point was relatively intact.

Also -- Vince Lloyd is still alive? Maybe I thought he was far older than he actually is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 16, 2022, 09:52:12 AM
I knew that would be your response. Surprised you got 9 minutes in.

You should finish it.

That's ok. We.can add footwork to the things he needs to work on. Maybe he can go to Jenkins QB camp. Might get him into the CFL if the NFL does not pan out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 16, 2022, 10:05:23 AM
That's ok. We.can add footwork to the things he needs to work on. Maybe he can go to Jenkins QB camp. Might get him into the CFL if the NFL does not pan out.
Footnotes, or footwork ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 16, 2022, 10:47:27 AM
It was crappily written, but the central point was relatively intact.

Also -- Vince Lloyd is still alive? Maybe I thought he was far older than he actually is.

So the Bears can’t do anything right because “McCaskeys?” Just make sure your mouth is full of Italian beef or deep dish when you say it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 16, 2022, 10:49:29 AM
That's ok. We.can add footwork to the things he needs to work on. Maybe he can go to Jenkins QB camp. Might get him into the CFL if the NFL does not pan out.

It’s amazing that he’s not a finished product after a year and half into his career. We all know he’s had first rate coaching since he got into the league.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 16, 2022, 10:49:54 AM
Apparently Chase Claypool is hurt. No real details yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 16, 2022, 10:59:22 AM
So the Bears can’t do anything right because “McCaskeys?” Just make sure your mouth is full of Italian beef or deep dish when you say it.

It is not as if there is pretty big track record or anything.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 16, 2022, 11:01:22 AM
It is not as if there is pretty big track record or anything.

Pretty big track record of what?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 16, 2022, 11:11:15 AM
It is not as if there is pretty big track record or anything.
He did have a good 1st half in start #22.
But then I've had friends say they've played good golf when they're hurting. That they don't try to do too much.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 16, 2022, 11:12:16 AM
Pretty big track record of what?

Complete ineptitude
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 16, 2022, 11:13:41 AM
And the Arlington Park thing looks to be trending in that same direction
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 16, 2022, 12:24:52 PM
Complete ineptitude

Lol you’re insufferable
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 16, 2022, 12:30:12 PM
Lol you’re insufferable

You must be related to the McCaskeys.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 16, 2022, 02:07:41 PM
Nice trade....

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-eagles-injury-report-chase-claypool-out-week-15-clash
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 16, 2022, 02:34:59 PM
Nice trade....

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-eagles-injury-report-chase-claypool-out-week-15-clash
risky
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 16, 2022, 09:42:43 PM
You must be related to the McCaskeys.

I’ll confess that in my haste, I thought you were referring to something else. Having said that, the McCaskeys aren’t that much worse than most owners, especially the charter owners. They’re not as successful as the Rooneys, but have been overall much more successful than the Fords and Bidwells. The Hunt family also had a 4 1/2 decade stretch of mediocrity until they hired Andy Reid and he drafted Patrick Mahomes.

At one time the McCaskeys deserved a large share of the blame. But they’ve opened the purse strings and aren’t involved in day to operations anymore. There’s no reason to believe they are pulling any strings that matter. As long as they’ve hired the right GM and coach they will be fine.

Also, the run in the 80s, mid aughts, and 2018 was better than anything KC had experienced before Patrick Mahomes came along. So while most of it was bad, not all of it was bad. And when it was good, it was very very good.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 17, 2022, 01:55:13 AM
I’ll confess that in my haste, I thought you were referring to something else. Having said that, the McCaskeys aren’t that much worse than most owners, especially the charter owners. They’re not as successful as the Rooneys, but have been overall much more successful than the Fords and Bidwells. The Hunt family also had a 4 1/2 decade stretch of mediocrity until they hired Andy Reid and he drafted Patrick Mahomes.

At one time the McCaskeys deserved a large share of the blame. But they’ve opened the purse strings and aren’t involved in day to operations anymore. There’s no reason to believe they are pulling any strings that matter. As long as they’ve hired the right GM and coach they will be fine.

Also, the run in the 80s, mid aughts, and 2018 was better than anything KC had experienced before Patrick Mahomes came along. So while most of it was bad, not all of it was bad. And when it was good, it was very very good.

Didn't the Chief go to the 2 of the first 4 Super Bowls? Hank Stram and all?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 17, 2022, 09:13:53 AM
Tempo, someone told me that Hub is back and said on The Score yesterday that JFC was not even an average passer yet. Do you agree with Hub's assessment?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 17, 2022, 09:25:11 AM
How could you not?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 17, 2022, 09:40:45 AM
Tempo, someone told me that Hub is back and said on The Score yesterday that JFC was not even an average passer yet. Do you agree with Hub's assessment?

How did Parkins feel about it?

There's your answer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 17, 2022, 12:32:16 PM
How could you not?

Ever read Tempo's sig?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 04:49:30 AM
Didn't the Chief go to the 2 of the first 4 Super Bowls? Hank Stram and all?

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 04:52:03 AM
Tempo, someone told me that Hub is back and said on The Score yesterday that JFC was not even an average passer yet. Do you agree with Hub's assessment?

I wouldn’t know because they don’t pass the ball enough to find out. I know he was an excellent passer in college, and is getting better in the pros. I don’t think the pass protection and receivers are anywhere close to average, so I grade Fields on a curve. Hub is also a known curmudgeon. I give Fields an I for incomplete.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 04:54:15 AM
How did Parkins feel about it?

There's your answer.

Surrrree. Lazy and incorrect. But that’s standard for you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 05:00:59 AM
My official stance on Fields as a passer (taking the rest of the offense out of the equation) is that he’s improving, but he’s not where I’d like him to be yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 18, 2022, 08:49:36 AM
Lol

Can't beat facts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 18, 2022, 08:50:12 AM
I wouldn’t know because they don’t pass the ball enough to find out. I know he was an excellent passer in college, and is getting better in the pros. I don’t think the pass protection and receivers are anywhere close to average, so I grade Fields on a curve. Hub is also a known curmudgeon. I give Fields an I for incomplete.

I is for incomplete. An incomplete pass...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 18, 2022, 08:53:15 AM
My official stance on Fields as a passer (taking the rest of the offense out of the equation) is that he’s improving, but he’s not where I’d like him to be yet.

I went and listened to it and Hub was overall positive on Fields, thinking he could develop, but thought that people were getting their heads out over their skis. (Which caused me to chuckle.)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 18, 2022, 08:55:26 AM
I wouldn’t know because they don’t pass the ball enough to find out. I know he was an excellent passer in college, and is getting better in the pros. I don’t think the pass protection and receivers are anywhere close to average, so I grade Fields on a curve. Hub is also a known curmudgeon. I give Fields an I for incomplete.

This does sound close to Parkins' take.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 18, 2022, 08:57:15 AM
I wouldn’t know because they don’t pass the ball enough to find out.

Hmmm, I wonder why?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 09:20:58 AM
Can't beat facts.

So you’re giving the Hunt family credit for what happened 55 years ago.

I guess that means Bears’ current ownership killed it with 9 overall championships and two SB teams including the greatest team ever assembled.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 09:23:34 AM
I went and listened to it and Hub was overall positive on Fields, thinking he could develop, but thought that people were getting their heads out over their skis. (Which caused me to chuckle.)

Hub literally always says this. Notice the reaction from the hosts when he did. It was classic Hub Arkush.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 09:24:59 AM
This does sound close to Parkins' take.

Because like you said, can’t beat facts. What about that isn’t true?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 09:26:04 AM
Hmmm, I wonder why?

Because they don’t want to get him killed? And yes, they currently think they have a better chance to win if they run the ball. Both things can be true at the same time.

Also, running the ball helps that porous defense. They have the worst front 7 in the NFL in case you forgot. Their sack leader is a rookie safety who’s missed a couple games.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 09:28:37 AM
I think I heard someone on the radio (ESPN 1000 that is), that the Bears haven’t touched an opposing quarterback in like 4 games. Touched…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 18, 2022, 10:42:46 AM
Hub Arkush is a funny name
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 11:33:27 AM
It’s takes an incredibly low level of thinking to sit there and say “Why don’t the Bears throw more?! JUSTIN FIELDS!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 18, 2022, 05:04:22 PM
So you’re giving the Hunt family credit for what happened 55 years ago.

I guess that means Bears’ current ownership killed it with 9 overall championships and two SB teams including the greatest team ever assembled.

George's family does not get credit. The Hunt family has gotten its act together.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 18, 2022, 06:18:03 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 19, 2022, 04:58:45 PM
These unhinged Soviet fuckers in this article sound like Tempo talking about JFC...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-cronies-turn-on-russian-elite-in-paranoid-war-frenzy/ar-AA15sEjI
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 19, 2022, 06:14:24 PM
These unhinged Soviet fuckers in this article sound like Tempo talking about JFC...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-cronies-turn-on-russian-elite-in-paranoid-war-frenzy/ar-AA15sEjI

You realize you’re the one in the minority on Justin Fields, right? Majority of fans and analysts think he’s the NFLs newest superstar.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 19, 2022, 06:26:49 PM
You realize you’re the one in the minority on Justin Fields, right? Majority of fans and analysts think he’s the NFLs newest superstar.

Don't give me this majority of fans and analysts shit as there are tons of meat head sports fans/analysts out there.

I'll add this: Part of a 9 guy text chain. One of the guys is like you, blinded by his devotion to The Twitter and JFC. You guys give the same exact excuses for JFC. I have pushed back, but not nearly as much as I have done here. I have had 2 guys on that chain separately text me saying they do not get the JFC love as he sucks as a passer. One of the guys is a Bear fan; the other is not. I guess they do not want to get into it with the JFC Zealot, as dealing with a JFC Zealot these days is like trying to talk to 9/11 Was An Inside Job or The Election Was Stolen wackos.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 19, 2022, 06:30:03 PM
The Election Was Stolen wackos.

Which ones, the 2016 version or the 2020 version?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 19, 2022, 06:58:24 PM
Which ones, the 2016 version or the 2020 version?

I guess I'll go with both.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: illiniray on December 19, 2022, 07:20:53 PM
Which ones, the 2016 version or the 2020 version?

Let's not forget 2000. I have liberal friends who were convinced the Diebold machines in Ohio were rigged.

In 2016, there were issues with Russians hacking the DNC and using Twitter to selectively leak information harmful to HRC. Also plenty of completely fake news being spread.

Both Gore and HRC conceded. There was nothing comparable to the January 6 insurrection.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 19, 2022, 07:30:16 PM
My praise of Justin Fields has actually been fairly restrained. It just seems excessive compared to your hilariously awful “Justin Fields is not an NFL quarterback” takes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 19, 2022, 09:05:32 PM
My praise of Justin Fields has actually been fairly restrained. It just seems excessive compared to your hilariously awful “Justin Fields is not an NFL quarterback” takes.

Now this is good comedy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 19, 2022, 09:20:14 PM
Tempo’s best work is when he is parodying himself.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 19, 2022, 09:58:55 PM
I’ve said many times he’s not there yet as a passer. But he’s literally carrying this offense on his back (yes, primarily due to his running). You guys are at your best when you’re being white guys who belong in the 1970s.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 19, 2022, 10:08:21 PM
Tempo’s best work is when he is parodying himself.

Since they changed the philosophy the Bears have been averaging about 27 points a game (scored 10 the game he didn’t play). Do you guys think that’s due to David Montgomery and Cody Whitehair? I wonder what the reason could be.

And for the fortieth time, he’s got a ways to go before he’s a polished NFL passer.

Lastly, he’s 7th in the NFL in rushing yards. And they didn’t start doing designed runs until like week 6 or 7. That’s pretty incredible.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 19, 2022, 10:14:56 PM
You guys must spend zero time on the internet or watching sports television/radio because Fields’ “breakout” has been a hot topic of discussion for two months. That is unless you listen to dinosaurs like Dan McNeil.

I haven’t anointed Fields a superstar “quarterback” yet. I want to see more: but he’s a hell of a talent, and I’m grading him on a curve because it would be moronic not to.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 19, 2022, 10:26:33 PM
Literally about all I’ve ever said about Fields’ passing is that it’s getting better (which isn’t even arguable), and TheDipshitMan is all “OH MY GOD HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT?!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 19, 2022, 10:40:43 PM
Looking forward to all the 3AM posts when I awaken.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 19, 2022, 10:44:14 PM
Doubtful. Taking a hot salt bath and going to bed. Hopefully I sleep like a baby. Goodnight, TheDipshitMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 19, 2022, 11:02:42 PM
I would like to ask one thing before I go to bed. What have I said (in my own words) that’s so over the top about Justin Fields. I’ll hang up and listen for both of your answers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 09:00:49 AM
That Claypool trade looks worse by the week. SMH
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 10:26:13 AM
That Claypool trade looks worse by the week. SMH
Or? Maybe the Wingback can't get him the ball? Or both?

Still with 7 to 9 wins next year with the guy doing the draft and FA who picked Jones and who traded for Claypool?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 10:33:40 AM
Or? Maybe the Wingback can't get him the ball? Or both?

Still with 7 to 9 wins next year with the guy doing the draft and FA who picked Jones and who traded for Claypool?

They’ve barely even played him (Claypool). Coaches must not have fair in him…your logic. It’s been widely acknowledged he’s struggled to grasp what’s going on. Barely is an exaggeration but he’s not been on the field nearly as much as expected, and not been a featured part of the offense.

Here he is folks, the DipshitMan “spreading the blame around.”

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 20, 2022, 10:38:16 AM
Or? Maybe the Wingback can't get him the ball? Or both?

Still with 7 to 9 wins next year with the guy doing the draft and FA who picked Jones and who traded for Claypool?
Justin F. Mahomes just needs a couple of weapons.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 10:50:16 AM
Justin F. Mahomes just needs a couple of weapons.

Would certainly help. Can’t think of any elite passers who have an EQ St Brown and Byron Pringle as their primary recivers. Or even a Darnell Mooney, who is a 3.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 11:53:54 AM
They’ve barely even played him (Claypool). Coaches must not have fair in him…your logic. It’s been widely acknowledged he’s struggled to grasp what’s going on. Barely is an exaggeration but he’s not been on the field nearly as much as expected, and not been a featured part of the offense.

Here he is folks, the DipshitMan “spreading the blame around.”

I love it that you are so invested in the Wingback.

Hopefully he works his ass off during the summer. He has a long way to go to be a decent NFL QB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 11:54:58 AM
They’ve barely even played him (Claypool). Coaches must not have fair in him…your logic. It’s been widely acknowledged he’s struggled to grasp what’s going on. Barely is an exaggeration but he’s not been on the field nearly as much as expected, and not been a featured part of the offense.

Here he is folks, the DipshitMan “spreading the blame around.”

So you agree the trade is up there with picking a 40 year kick retuner in the 3rd round?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 11:57:36 AM
Hopefully Poles gets better as a GM quicker than JFC's QB play gets better.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 12:05:52 PM
I love it that you are so invested in the Wingback.

Hopefully he works his ass off during the summer. He has a long way to go to be a decent NFL QB.

What I love is your default setting of literally blaming Fields for everything first, and foremost. He is the primary reason they are competitive (and the coaching staff, primarily Eberflus IMO deserves a good amount of credit, too). And no, I don’t think Fields is a complete quarterback yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 12:07:52 PM
Hopefully Poles gets better as a GM quicker than JFC's QB play gets better.

He’s had some hits and misses already. But every GM does. He needs to have a strong 2023-2024. Overall I’d give him a B maybe B+.

Would be happy to debate his hits and misses if anyone likes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 12:10:30 PM
So you agree the trade is up there with picking a 40 year kick retuner in the 3rd round?

I hated the trade the moment I heard about it. I heard some reasonable arguments to justify it. I softened a bit. What we didn’t know is that pick might end up being what would ordinarily be the first pick in the 2nd round (with Miami not having a pick). I can see why they made the trade and I hope it works out, but I never liked it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 12:11:40 PM
What I love is your default setting of literally blaming Fields for everything first, and foremost. He is the primary reason they are competitive (and the coaching staff, primarily Eberflus IMO deserves a good amount of credit, too). And no, I don’t think Fields is a complete quarterback yet.

Most important position on the field.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 12:25:20 PM
Most important position on the field.

Never once argued differently. But expecting him to elevate this franchise to playoff or near playoff level is A LOT to ask of any quarterback, let lone a 2nd year quarterback in a new system with rookie coaches.

You can fairly criticize Fields for not being a polished or consistent passer. All I’ve ever asked is that you be reasonable. You’re not. In the least.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 12:44:35 PM
If you’re being objective, there isn’t a quarterback in the NFL who is receiving less help from his entire organization than Justin Fields. It’s not even debatable. But I will be happy to debate if you want.

Expecting him to elevate this franchise to relevancy at this time isn’t at all realistic or fair.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 12:50:01 PM
Never once argued differently. But expecting him to elevate this franchise to playoff or near playoff level is A LOT to ask of any quarterback, let lone a 2nd year quarterback in a new system with rookie coaches.

You can fairly criticize Fields for not being a polished or consistent passer. All I’ve ever asked is that you be reasonable. You’re not. In the least.

Ok. He has sucked in the 4th quarter when they have had leads or a chance to win a game and when Ds know he has to throw the ball. 

Hopefully he works hard over the summer and can be the player you and Dan Orlovsky proclaim he will be.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 12:50:38 PM
If you’re being objective, there isn’t a quarterback in the NFL who is receiving less help from his entire organization than Justin Fields. It’s not even debatable. But I will be happy to debate if you want.

Expecting him to elevate this franchise to relevancy at this time isn’t at all realistic or fair.

What about the QB on Lovie's Texans?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 12:52:23 PM
Ok. He has sucked in the 4th quarter when they have had leads or a chance to win a game and when Ds know he has to throw the ball. 

Hopefully he works hard over the summer and can be the player you and Dan Orlovsky proclaim he will be.

He’s made some plays in the 4th quarter that weren’t rewarded.

Also, have you noticed how when the opposing defense KNOWS they have to throw they can’t block it up for shit? You do watch the games, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 12:55:43 PM
He’s made some plays in the 4th quarter that weren’t rewarded.

Also, have you noticed how when the opposing defense KNOWS they have to throw they can’t block it up for shit? You do watch the games, right?

Yes and I also know that when he does get time to throw, he hasn't been remotely consistent or usually competent.

He played well in the Packer game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 12:58:47 PM
What about the QB on Lovie's Texans?

Brandon Cooks, 1st round guard 2022, 2nd round WR, starting RB 2022. Also drafted a TE. Added guard and tackle in free agency.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 12:59:34 PM
He’s probably your best and closest example
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 01:16:27 PM
Can also throw in that the Texans have a highly experienced offensive coordinator. Not a guy learning on the job.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 01:40:31 PM
Yes and I also know that when he does get time to throw, he hasn't been remotely consistent or usually competent.

He played well in the Packer game.

What about the Dolphins game when he threw for 3 TDs and ran for 178 and a TD with no turnovers? That was a “meh?”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 02:40:51 PM
What about the Dolphins game when he threw for 3 TDs and ran for 178 and a TD with no turnovers? That was a “meh?”

Dolphin D. Meh.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 02:46:41 PM
Dolphin D. Meh.

Ed Zachary.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 02:51:27 PM
Ed Zachary.

LOL.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 05:28:23 PM
Jack Urlacher to the IR.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 20, 2022, 08:23:52 PM
Unpopular opinion with the meatballs here, but Chicago and Cleveland games should be moved. Idiotic to endanger players and fans in white-out arctic conditions.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 20, 2022, 10:27:46 PM
Oh man. Not Lake Zurich Roquan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IlliniGolf on December 21, 2022, 12:57:24 AM
Unpopular opinion with the meatballs here, but Chicago and Cleveland games should be moved. Idiotic to endanger players and fans in white-out arctic conditions.

If all Marines are such pussies we are in deep shit !
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2022, 07:12:16 AM
Unpopular opinion with the meatballs here, but Chicago and Cleveland games should be moved. Idiotic to endanger players and fans in white-out arctic conditions.

Did you type this while your mouth was filled with brie?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 07:31:48 AM
Did you type this while your mouth was filled with brie?

Cock.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 21, 2022, 07:51:53 AM
If all Marines are such pussies we are in deep shit !

They're not.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 21, 2022, 07:52:30 AM
Cock.

While your mouth was filled with cock?

Interesting meal choice.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 07:59:33 AM
After posting “cock,” I was just about to come back and ask where Jobu’s been.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 08:00:07 AM
He saw the Cock Signal and logged in.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 21, 2022, 08:14:48 AM
He saw the Cock Signal and logged in.

Lol.  I've been busy as hell. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 08:27:44 AM
These weather conditions probably favor the Bears. If the winds are 20-30 mph as expected could make it tough to throw.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 21, 2022, 08:50:28 AM
Bear weather.

Will there be a giant pile of salt?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 08:52:12 AM
Bear weather.

Will there be a giant pile of salt?

“Bear weather” died with the beat down they took from San Francisco in ‘89.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on December 21, 2022, 08:55:20 AM
I can't believe they're even considering playing the game in those conditions.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2022, 12:20:56 PM
I can't believe they're even considering playing the game in those conditions.

Only looking to be a Mark Smith Storm: 3 - 5 inches of snow.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 12:28:09 PM
I can't believe they're even considering playing the game in those conditions.

[The warning, which says there is a "significant threat to property or life," will stay in effect until 6 a.m. Saturday for Cook, DuPage, Kankakee, Lake and Will counties, according to the National Weather Service.]

NFL: “Six hours later, let’s put 60,000 people in an outdoor stadium!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 21, 2022, 01:07:51 PM
people putting guns to their heads to show up I'm sure
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 01:25:17 PM
people putting guns to their heads to show up I'm sure

Talked to a guy this morning who said he had a free ticket and wasn’t sure he’d go.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 21, 2022, 01:39:42 PM
Talked to a guy this morning who said he had a free ticket and wasn’t sure he’d go.

I'm sure you could pretty easily get some free tickets to the game too if you wanted lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 01:59:50 PM
I'm sure you could pretty easily get some free tickets to the game too if you wanted lol

Lol right
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2022, 02:33:52 PM
I'm sure you could pretty easily get some free tickets to the game too if you wanted lol

Might take the boys...was hoping there would be some cheap Cadillac Club tickets.

I've been to a Bear game where the beer lines froze.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 03:19:11 PM
Boomer Esiason just said Justin Fields could be better than Jalen Hurts. Called Justin “Superman.” Said he’s basically Cam Newton but a better talent. Josh Allen upside.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 21, 2022, 03:36:06 PM
On the Parkins & Spiegel show of course…

https://twitter.com/parkinsspiegel/status/1605673417859928064?s=46&t=JFaRb_aQ22KwckgISEBsAQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 04:13:56 PM
On the Parkins & Spiegel show of course…

https://twitter.com/parkinsspiegel/status/1605673417859928064?s=46&t=JFaRb_aQ22KwckgISEBsAQ

Lol what does that matter? Do you think Parkins paid Boomer to say those things?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 21, 2022, 04:34:09 PM
Might take the boys...was hoping there would be some cheap Cadillac Club tickets.

I've been to a Bear game where the beer lines froze.

That sounds brutal

I was at the Blackhawks winter classic game at soldier field many years ago during the blizzard, I think it snowed like 6+ inches DURING the game... Don't think I've ever been so cold in my life lol

pure misery, but memorable at least

here's an article about it that I didn't write but my feelings are pretty much the same lol

https://www.sbnation.com/2014/3/3/5463678/nhl-stadium-series-chicago-blackhawks-soldier-field-cold

we wound up walking through what seemed like a foot of snow all the way from soldier field to millenium park to finally catch a cab for the final mile home
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 06:25:31 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Pxxxv2Lz/2-C3-C5730-2-BAC-49-E4-A0-AA-BE713-A7-F0-D9-F.png) (https://postimg.cc/PLghBbQP)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 06:30:18 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/jdXScpzQ/209-A54-B8-8394-43-F0-BBCC-88-A11-E3-BF71-F.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 06:33:34 PM
PAMAn has seen zero improvement though.

https://twitter.com/theqbschool/status/1605654336905674752?s=46&t=Ezs_nNWjf1d_PCuNCMxdHg
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 06:34:44 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/FRWx0WT9/FD69-AC5-D-EF9-F-483-C-A605-61-E8887-DFB1-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tZ6Pj50f)anonymous photo sharing (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 06:38:11 PM
https://twitter.com/theqbschool/status/1605639244382294017?s=46&t=Ezs_nNWjf1d_PCuNCMxdHg
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 06:39:53 PM
https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1605720241857736704?s=46&t=Ezs_nNWjf1d_PCuNCMxdHg
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 06:42:54 PM
https://twitter.com/theqbschool/status/1605669439000584193?s=46&t=iTTPXN1ifCOIjdXxeZDaLA
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 06:46:49 PM
Let’s not get Jarrett Payton and PAMan together for dinner any time soon

https://twitter.com/paytonsun/status/1604552237254340611?s=46&t=iTTPXN1ifCOIjdXxeZDaLA
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 06:50:23 PM
https://twitter.com/theqbschool/status/1605609050917453824?s=46&t=4r5DAf4GMb2Q46sOLDOU1A
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 21, 2022, 08:08:08 PM
Jesus
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2022, 08:17:05 PM
Jesus

Yes?

(https://i.postimg.cc/HnGkv5Wf/4816-E40-C-A48-A-4-CFF-9-AC8-2-EC1-F3-EBF715.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2022, 11:34:51 PM
Jesus

Didn't even have to wait for 3AM.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2022, 11:35:34 PM
Yes?

(https://i.postimg.cc/HnGkv5Wf/4816-E40-C-A48-A-4-CFF-9-AC8-2-EC1-F3-EBF715.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

How long did it take you to make this and why didn't you make one for Mark Smith?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 02:39:28 AM
How long did it take you to make this and why didn't you make one for Mark Smith?

3-5 minutes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 10:22:15 AM
Just checked Vivid Seats and lowest United Club Bears tickets still over $140. If I could find them for maybe $50, I guess, I'd go. Tempo, you in?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 10:53:15 AM
Just checked Vivid Seats and lowest United Club Bears tickets still over $140. If I could find them for maybe $50, I guess, I'd go. Tempo, you in?

Fuck no. If I watch it at all it’ll be from my couch. Wouldn’t go to a -20 whiteout game for free ticket and free beer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on December 22, 2022, 10:56:58 AM
Fuck no. If I watch it at all it’ll be from my couch. Wouldn’t go to a -20 whiteout game for free ticket and free beer.

aright pAman sweeten the deal with a free ticket and TWO beers
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 11:11:30 AM
That would be a sweet deal. But with the weather and being Christmas Eve, can’t see making that happen. They’re actually going to fill an NFL stadium 6 hours after a major arctic storm is expected to expire.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 04:58:56 PM
Here’s what it would take to get me to go this game:

Free limo ride to and from
Free ticket
Heated suite
Free beer

Anything short of that and I am staying home lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 05:32:46 PM
Wonder why we don’t hear this said about Josh Allen…

https://twitter.com/fieldstoaddison/status/1605405116277874688?s=46&t=Qp4v5tzYFjxpx1jgmL5hQw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 07:14:04 PM
Wonder why we don’t hear this said about Josh Allen…

https://twitter.com/fieldstoaddison/status/1605405116277874688?s=46&t=Qp4v5tzYFjxpx1jgmL5hQw

Allen can actually pass the ball, so he is not running as much as Fields?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 07:18:18 PM
Can't believe the idiots did not choose Fields for the Pro Bowl. Don't they know The Twitter People, Parkins, and the Talking Heads from The Worldwide Leader of Sports have him as the NFL's Superstar?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 07:22:52 PM
Allen can actually pass the ball, so he is not running as much as Fields?

Nice cop out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 07:24:22 PM
Nice cop out.

Except it is true?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 07:24:49 PM
Can't believe the idiots did not choose Fields for the Pro Bowl. Don't they know The Twitter People, Parkins, and the Talking Heads from The Worldwide Leader of Sports have him as the NFL's Superstar?

These awards are often a year or two behind. Gonna be hard to beat out a good story like Geno Smith when his team is 3-11. How long did it take Roquan to get adequate recognition?

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 07:26:38 PM
Except it is true?

“He’s less likely to get hurt because he can pass?” What kind of fucking “logic” is that? Getting flipped on your head doesn’t know if you can pass or not.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 07:27:41 PM
These awards are often a year or two behind. Gonna be hard to beat out a good story like Geno Smith when his team is 3-11. How long did it take Roquan to get adequate recognition?

Don't those dimwits read The Twitter?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 07:29:22 PM
Except it is true?

Josh Allen has run the ball about 100x this year. That’s a lot of chances to get hurt. You’re talking out of your, like usual.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 07:39:42 PM
Josh Allen has run the ball about 100x this year. That’s a lot of chances to get hurt. You’re talking out of your, like usual.

And he has attempted 500 passes, almost 2x more than Fields. He does only  about 40 or so less run attempts than Fields. So he is probably running 3-4 less times a game?

Wonder how many of Allen's runs are designed runs. Do you know?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 07:45:28 PM
“More pass attempts” doesn’t protect you from a collision on one of your 100 run attempts. And you’re a lawyer?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 07:55:34 PM
And he has attempted 500 passes, almost 2x more than Fields. He does only  about 40 or so less run attempts than Fields. So he is probably running 3-4 less times a game?

Wonder how many of Allen's runs are designed runs. Do you know?

A run is a run is a run. 100 runs in 14 games is stil A LOT. And he’s more reckless with his body than Justin is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 07:55:52 PM
“More pass attempts” doesn’t protect you from a collision on one of your 100 run attempts. And you’re a lawyer?

You do not think  it may be why Fields' running is far more noticeable? He runs a far higher percentage of plays than Allen does.

And that's why you are a doofus who drives an Uber like Squeaky.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 07:59:14 PM
Can't believe the idiots did not choose Fields for the Pro Bowl. Don't they know The Twitter People, Parkins, and the Talking Heads from The Worldwide Leader of Sports have him as the NFL's Superstar?

What baffles me is the clear disdain you show toward Justin Fields. It  seems you are rooting for him to fail. By all accounts he’s a hard working, smart, driven, talented and emerging player. And tougher than fucking nails. I don’t understand the contempt you have for him. You exhibit it in virtually every post.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:01:35 PM
100+ runs is still a lot of runs, no matter how you slice it. Him “being a better passer” changes nothing. He runs a lot, and we’ve all seen the way he runs. And again, Fields doesn’t call the plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:02:23 PM
You do not think  it may be why Fields' running is far more noticeable? He runs a far higher percentage of plays than Allen does.


No, I think it’s possible it’s a different reason…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:04:23 PM
Your Honor, my client only robbed 12 banks! The other defendant robbed 17 banks! Clearly my client is innocent!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:12:03 PM
Looking at the career numbers, it appears Allen is on his way to breaking his career rushing attempts record by the way. He’s averaging over 100 per year.

Also, I’ve said this myself multiple times. Getsy is calling too many designed runs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:14:06 PM
By comparison, Brady and Cousins appear to run 2 or so times per game, and I’m sure that includes kneel downs. So Allen is far from “primarily a pocket passer.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:16:06 PM
100+ runs is still a lot of runs, no matter how you slice it. Him “being a better passer” changes nothing. He runs a lot, and we’ve all seen the way he runs. And again, Fields doesn’t call the plays.

The question was why Fields' running is subject to scrutiny when Allen's isn't.  You did not like any answer that was not steeped in racism. Congrats on your typical progressive whining.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:17:00 PM
No, I think it’s possible it’s a different reason…

Of course.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:18:21 PM
Your Honor, my client only robbed 12 banks! The other defendant robbed 17 banks! Clearly my client is innocent!

You can't practice law.  You are took busy driving an Uber like Squeaky.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:20:17 PM
What baffles me is the clear disdain you show toward Justin Fields. It  seems you are rooting for him to fail. By all accounts he’s a hard working, smart, driven, talented and emerging player. And tougher than fucking nails. I don’t understand the contempt you have for him. You exhibit it in virtually every post.

My disdain is for morons like Parkins and you who have your heads up your asses slobbering all over a kid who has a long, long way to go to be an average NFL passer yet demand everyone agree with your stupid hot take that he is an NFL Superstar.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:32:02 PM
I’ve never ever once demanded that you call him a superstar. Please show me once where I’ve asked that of you. All I have ever asked is that you acknowledge he’s improving (and yes, he’s getting better as a passer) and that the level of “help” he gets should be embarrassing to the Chicago Bears. Literally no quarterback in the NFL has been set up for failure to the level that Justin Fields has. Yet he’s rising above it (but where are the wins?! Amirite?!).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:33:47 PM
If you think I’ve been demanding you call him a superstar, you literally can’t read and comprehend to an educated level.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:39:09 PM
You out here demanding that a 2nd year quarterback lead a roster totally bereft of adequate NFL talent to “wins” is beyond absurd. Demanding that he put up Pro-Bowl caliber passing stats is also pretty absurd. He was one of 5 1st round QBs last year, and was outperforming all of them until about 3 weeks ago. Lawrence finally living up to his billing, but he’s in a better situation as well.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:39:34 PM
I’ve never ever once demanded that you call him a superstar. Please show me once where I’ve asked that of you. All I have ever asked is that you acknowledge he’s improving (and yes, he’s getting better as a passer) and that the level of “help” he gets should be embarrassing to the Chicago Bears. Literally no quarterback in the NFL has been set up for failure to the level that Justin Fields has. Yet he’s rising above it (but where are the wins?! Amirite?!).

I cannot help it if you can't comprehend the difference between Fields running appx. 36% of the time versus Allen running appx. 17% of the time and think the difference in attention is due to race.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:41:51 PM
You out here demanding that a 2nd year quarterback lead a roster totally bereft of adequate NFL talent to “wins” is beyond absurd. Demanding that he put up Pro-Bowl caliber passing stats is also pretty absurd. He was one of 5 1st round QBs last year, and was outperforming all od them until about 3 weeks ago. Lawrence finally living up to his billing, but he’s in a better situation as well.

I am demanding that he look like he knows how to be an NFL QB and not a Wingback. I understand that the team sucks. Problem is that he completely sucked at being a QB when running an NFL offense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:45:10 PM
I am demanding that he look like he knows how to be an NFL QB and not a Wingback. I understand that the team sucks. Problem is that he completely sucked at being a QB when running an NFL offense.

And yet you say this knowing the line can’t pass block and the receivers are mostly practice squad caliber. That’s not to say he wasn’t bad on his own at times. Yet qualified experts say they see the growth in his game yet you are smarter than they are.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:46:52 PM
I am demanding that he look like he knows how to be an NFL QB and not a Wingback. I understand that the team sucks. Problem is that he completely sucked at being a QB when running an NFL offense.

You “understand that the team sucks,” yet throw him under the bus (not the rest of the team or the coaches) when they lose. You DEMAND that he overcome the worst situation for a starting QB in the NFL.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:48:29 PM
I cannot help it if you can't comprehend the difference between Fields running appx. 36% of the time versus Allen running appx. 17% of the time and think the difference in attention is due to race.

Again, both a run a lot. I’d argue Allen runs more recklessly. Both are running quarterbacks. And for the 40th time, Fields doesn’t call the plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:51:43 PM
And yet you say this knowing the line can’t pass block and the receivers are mostly practice squad caliber. That’s not to say he wasn’t bad on his own at times. Yet qualified experts say they see the growth in his game yet you are smarter than they are.

Yes, because there are things like footwork, reading defenses, throwing the fucking ball in the flat, pocket presence keeping your eyes downfield when they actually have time, that an average NFL QB should be able to do even if they or the other players don't execute plays properly.

Qualified experts? Like Trent Dilfer? Parkins?

Hopefully the kid gets some good coaching over the summer. He certainly did not have it at OSU. Hopefully he works his ass off this summer. If he doesn't, he'll be one of many 1st round QB draft picks that could not produce despite the opinions of qualified experts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 08:52:51 PM
Anybody who watches the Bills and says “Oh yeah, Allen, he’s pretty much a straight pocket passer” is fucking kidding themselves. And for the 41st time. Fields doesn’t call the plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:54:14 PM
You “understand that the team sucks,” yet throw him under the bus (not the rest of the team or the coaches) when they lose. You DEMAND that he overcome the worst situation for a starting QB in the NFL.

Yeah, demanding that he  not fling the ball up for grabs in the 4th quarter against the Lion and get intercepted was a stretch on my part.

It is amazing you can make it through the day.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 08:56:45 PM
Anybody who watches the Bills and says “Oh yeah, Allen, he’s pretty much a straight pocket passer” is fucking kidding themselves. And for the 41st time. Fields doesn’t call the plays.

And for the 400th time,  we know why they are calling the plays the way they are calling the plays: the kid can't pass. He showed that in the 1st half or so of the season.

Again, it is amazing that you can make it through the day.

You didn't even know Biden executed an order student loan relief when bitching that he had not done anything. Maybe you should pay attention to the qualified experts on politics.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:06:50 PM
Yeah, demanding that he  not fling the ball up for grabs in the 4th quarter against the Lion and get intercepted was a stretch on my part.

It is amazing you can make it through the day.

This is akin to missing a couple too many free-throws in the first game of the year and saying “this will come back to haunt them.”

And you ignore the electrifying play he made like two plays later to give them the lead back. Which the defense relinquished. You are pathetic. Just admit that you’re rooting for him to fail.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:07:48 PM
And for the 400th time,  we know why they are calling the plays the way they are calling the plays: the kid can't pass. He showed that in the 1st half or so of the season.

Again, it is amazing that you can make it through the day.

You didn't even know Biden executed an order student loan relief when bitching that he had not done anything. Maybe you should pay attention to the qualified experts on politics.

He did 10k. Next to nothing. He did the minimal, which is standard for the corporate Democrats you shill for.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 09:10:54 PM
This is akin to missing a couple too many free-throws in the first game of the year and saying “this will come back to haunt them.”

And you ignore the electrifying play he made like two plays later to give them the lead back. Which the defense relinquished. You are pathetic. Just admit that you’re rooting for him to fail.

No it isn't. He can't make really dumb plays like that.

And you saying be does not call the plays is completely dumb. There is a reason they are calling runs. Sorry you have problems with that reality.

Hopefully he gets better because he will be the starter for 2 to 3 more years.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:11:18 PM
Of course he went for the minimum. It’s what minimum Joe does.

(https://i.postimg.cc/RFQGf2Tf/CE5-C9-AAE-49-E5-464-F-9-A06-82-ED5-FB22630.png) (https://postimg.cc/DJ0q3jHy)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 09:11:56 PM
He did 10k. Next to nothing. He did the minimal, which is standard for the corporate Democrats you shill for.

Hahaha. Pay your fucking loans, Tempo.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:12:06 PM
No it isn't. He can't make really dumb plays like that.

And you saying be does not call the plays is completely dumb. There is a reason they are calling runs. Sorry you have problems with that reality.

Hopefully he gets better because he will be the starter for 2 to 3 more years.

Dude. I saw Tom Brady lose a game because he forgot what down it was. Quarterbacks are going to make mistakes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:13:07 PM
Brett Favre never lost a game because of a bad throw I’ll bet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 09:13:31 PM
Of course he went for the minimum. It’s what minimum Joe does.

(https://i.postimg.cc/RFQGf2Tf/CE5-C9-AAE-49-E5-464-F-9-A06-82-ED5-FB22630.png) (https://postimg.cc/DJ0q3jHy)

As suggested by the Progressive Fake Indian, whom you cited earlier.

Pay your loans.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:13:49 PM
You are just spewing meathead nonsense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 09:14:17 PM
Brett Favre never lost a game because of a bad throw I’ll bet.

Now we are comparing JFC to Favre. Hilarious. Love your flailing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 09:14:47 PM
You are just spewing meathead nonsense.

You are a dimwit. Pay your student loans back.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:16:03 PM
Blaming Fields for the Lions loss is sheer dumbfuckery.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:16:28 PM
You are a dimwit. Pay your student loans back.

Finished that 10 years ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 09:17:57 PM
Blaming Fields for the Lions loss is sheer dumbfuckery.

He was part of the reason.  Terrible 4th quarter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:19:27 PM
Fields literally gave the Bears the lead back entirely by his own doing like 30 seconds after the INT. The defense lost that game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:20:38 PM
Now we are comparing JFC to Favre. Hilarious. Love your flailing.

No, idiot. I’m saying even the greatest of the greats make mistakes. Even sometimes in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:21:09 PM
You may be worse at logic than Judge Judy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 09:23:13 PM
Fields literally gave the Bears the lead back entirely by his own doing like 30 seconds after the INT. The defense lost that game.

They lost as a team. Plenty of blame to go around.

He was terrible in the 4th, like most 4th quarters this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:25:19 PM
He was part of the reason.  Terrible 4th quarter.

You have the “sports intelligence” of a guy who’s lived his entire life with a meatball in his mouth.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:26:44 PM
They lost as a team. Plenty of blame to go around.

He was terrible in the 4th, like most 4th quarters this year.

You even blamed the EQ St. Brown perfectly thrown ball on 4th down on the fact that “Fields can’t pass.” You have zero credibility. Why do you wish him to fail so badly? Self-loathing fan much?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 09:27:08 PM
You have the “sports intelligence” of a guy who’s lived his entire life with a meatball in his mouth.

Coming from a guy who blames racism for people scrutinizing Fields' running more than Allen's, your stupid opinions don't bug me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 09:28:16 PM
You even blamed the EQ St. Brown perfectly thrown ball on 4th down on the fact that “Fields can’t pass.” You have zero credibility. Why do you wish him to fail so badly? Self-loathing fan much?

I don't wish him to fail. I hope he works hard and gets better and brings the Bear a Super Bowl.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:45:44 PM
Coming from a guy who blames racism for people scrutinizing Fields' running more than Allen's, your stupid opinions don't bug me.

Racism doesn’t have to be purposeful, blatant, or malicious.  It can be underlying and inherent. Watch that Allen video again. He’s out there throwing his body around like he’s Troy Polamalu.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2022, 09:50:12 PM
Right now you sound just as sensitive as “war on Christmas” guy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 10:03:25 PM
Racism doesn’t have to be purposeful, blatant, or malicious.  It can be underlying and inherent. Watch that Allen video again. He’s out there throwing his body around like he’s Troy Polamalu.

And again, the question was why is Fields' running being scrutined and Allen's isn't.  Fields runs a far greater percentage of his plays than Allen does could be the reason instead of racism. But you really want racism to be the only reason.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 22, 2022, 10:05:12 PM
Oh Tempo, just stfu already. This is so fucking stupid.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 22, 2022, 10:05:48 PM
And you have the nerve to call me and others out regarding “logic” 🥴
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 01:40:27 AM
White men living in white men bubble. Shocking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 01:46:54 AM
And again, the question was why is Fields' running being scrutined and Allen's isn't.  Fields runs a far greater percentage of his plays than Allen does could be the reason instead of racism. But you really want racism to be the only reason.

The guy who says Jimmy G should have gone down because he was heavily pressured says Josh Allen is fine because he only runs 8-10 times a game. You can’t make up this kind of random logic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 23, 2022, 07:22:32 AM
Racism!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 08:52:43 AM
The guy who says Jimmy G should have gone down because he was heavily pressured says Josh Allen is fine because he only runs 8-10 times a game. You can’t make up this kind of random logic.

Uh, that is not what I said, but we all know what a dimwit you are at this point.

Again, and I will type slowly so you can try and comprehend what is being typed.

JFC runs the ball over 40 percent of his plays when he has the ball in his hands

Allen runs the ball over 16 percent of his plays when the ball is in his hands.

When you see Fields with the ball in his hand, over 40 percent of the time he is running the ball or 2 of every 5 plays or 20 out of every 50.

When you see Allen with the ball in his hands, he is only running it over 16 percent of the time or 8 to 9 out of every 50 plays.

Allen has also attempted close to 2x more passes than Fields.

That people scrutinize Fields' running and not Allens' MAY BE attributable to their ratio of runs to pass plays. When Fields is with the ball he is running the ball more than twice as much as Allen is, and the FACT that Allen can actually pass the ball and Fields cannot (ergo Fields running the ball 2x out of every 5 plays where the ball is in his hands). There is more of Allen's game to discuss, though we spend an inordinate amount of time here discussing how Fields cannot pass.

So MAYBE the color of their skin is NOT the cause of the focus on Fields' running game but the fact that he runs the ball 40% when he has the ball.

I am guessing I have wasted my time typing this slowly because guys who get their hot takes from such qualified experts as Parkins are dumb dumbs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 10:07:07 AM
Racism!

I wouldn’t expect you to understand the nuance of aversive racism. Im sure you’re perfectly content in your white man bubble. Which is probably located in a cul de sac.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 10:13:52 AM
Uh, that is not what I said, but we all know what a dimwit you are at this point.

Again, and I will type slowly so you can try and comprehend what is being typed.

JFC runs the ball over 40 percent of his plays when he has the ball in his hands

Allen runs the ball over 16 percent of his plays when the ball is in his hands.

When you see Fields with the ball in his hand, over 40 percent of the time he is running the ball or 2 of every 5 plays or 20 out of every 50.

When you see Allen with the ball in his hands, he is only running it over 16 percent of the time or 8 to 9 out of every 50 plays.

Allen has also attempted close to 2x more passes than Fields.

That people scrutinize Fields' running and not Allens' MAY BE attributable to their ratio of runs to pass plays. When Fields is with the ball he is running the ball more than twice as much as Allen is, and the FACT that Allen can actually pass the ball and Fields cannot (ergo Fields running the ball 2x out of every 5 plays where the ball is in his hands). There is more of Allen's game to discuss, though we spend an inordinate amount of time here discussing how Fields cannot pass.

So MAYBE the color of their skin is NOT the cause of the focus on Fields' running game but the fact that he runs the ball 40% when he has the ball.

I am guessing I have wasted my time typing this slowly because guys who get their hot takes from such qualified experts as Parkins are dumb dumbs.

Lol both are high volume RUNNING quarterbacks. I get it, Fields runs at a higher percentage. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’s “MORE likely” to get hurt. And it damn sure doesn’t mean Allen is a lot less likely to get to hurt. Your “logic” is just so random it’s unbelievably hilarious. 

The same guy who said Garropalo hurt himself by not just going down says Josh Allen is adequately protecting himself by “only” running 8-10x a game. You can’t make this kind of stupidity up. And for the 42nd time, you’re mad at the wrong guy. Justin Fields doesn’t call the plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 10:17:32 AM
I think it’s funny you zero in on Parkins (once again, because of a single tweet of his I shared). Out of Bernstein, Holmes, Spiegel, and Parkins (basically mid day and afternoon hosts) he’s probably my least favorite of the four. If one of them were to leave The Score, I’d choose him. But then you are like the dog that barks “squirrel!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 10:19:12 AM
I laugh at some of Parkins’ takes all the time. Like his love for Matt Nagy that lived for 2 years too long. I do think he’s a good conversation starter though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 10:20:04 AM
Lol both are high volume RUNNING quarterbacks. I get it, Fields runs at a higher percentage. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’s “MORE likely” to get hurt. And it damn sure doesn’t mean Allen is a lot less likely to get to hurt. Your “logic” is just so random it’s unbelievably hilarious. 

The same guy who said Garropalo hurt himself by not just going down says Josh Allen is adequately protecting himself by only running 8-10x a game. You can’t make this kind of stupidity up. And for the 42nd time, you’re mad at the wrong guy. Justin Fields doesn’t call the plays.

Seriously, are you on the spectrum? You can't comprehend what you read  worth a shit.

Tempo's qualified expert Dan Orlovsky everyone...

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/stephen-a-smith-marcus-spears-dan-orlovsky-jets-playoffs.html
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 10:20:41 AM
And again (for probably the 10th time), because you are reading/comprehension challenged, I ALSO think Getsy is calling too many QB runs…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 10:21:19 AM
I think it’s funny you zero in on Parkins (once again, because of a single tweet of his I shared). Out of Bernstein, Holmes, Spiegel, and Parkins (basically mid day and afternoon hosts) he’s probably my least favorite of the four. If one of them were to leave The Score, I’d choose him. But then you are like the dog that barks “squirrel!”

All those guys fucking suck and are unlistenable at this point.  But I will include them next time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 10:22:43 AM
And again (for probably the 10th time), because you are reading/comprehension challenged, I ALSO think Getsy is calling too many QB runs…

I understand that. What you fail to comprehend is why Getsy is calling those runs. For the 100th time, it is because JFC is not a QB who can actually pass at this point.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 10:25:57 AM
Seriously, are you on the spectrum? You can't comprehend what you read  worth a shit.

Tempo's qualified expert Dan Orlovsky everyone...

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/stephen-a-smith-marcus-spears-dan-orlovsky-jets-playoffs.html

The hilarity is that by “only running 109x in 14 games” Josh Allen is “much better protecting himself than Justin Fields.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 10:27:04 AM
And for the 43rd time, you’re mad at the wrong guy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 10:30:29 AM
And in fact, Fields has even said he “doesn’t want to be the quarterback that runs for 1,000 yards every year.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 23, 2022, 10:36:30 AM
I'm getting the impression that Getsy is giving JFC only 1 play to go with on each down.
Unless, of course, he's given an option of either running left or right on some of the too many designed running plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 10:44:49 AM
The hilarity is that by “only running 109x in 14 games” Josh Allen is “much better protecting himself than Justin Fields.”

And again, the answer to the actual issue raised flies right over your head. So, to answer the other question,  yes, it appears you are on the spectrum.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 10:45:33 AM
And in fact, Fields has even said he “doesn’t want to be the quarterback that runs for 1,000 yards every year.”

Then he better work hard to be an NFL QB over the summer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 10:47:28 AM
And for the 43rd time, you’re mad at the wrong guy.

I'm mad that they picked a guy whom they have not coached up to be an average NFL passer. He is who he is. Unless he failed to work hard and accept coaching, it is not his fault he is not yet an average NFL passer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 10:52:47 AM
And again, the answer to the actual issue raised flies right over your head. So, to answer the other question,  yes, it appears you are on the spectrum.

I get it. Fields runs at a higher rate and if you subscribe to the theory that makes you exponentially more likely to get hurt (and there’s no real proof it does) you can run with that (pun intended?). Allen is on pace to run about 130-140x this year. That’s substantial risk if you subscribe to your theory. Allen is hardly out there “protecting himself.”

It’s hilarious you blame the mostly immobile Jimmy G for trying to escape the run, yet adopt the theory Allen isn’t a running quarterback because he “only runs 16% of the time.”

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 10:54:25 AM
And for the 12th time, I agree Fields runs too much, but for the 44th time, he doesn’t call the plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 11:06:22 AM
I get it. Fields runs at a higher rate and if you subscribe to the theory that makes you exponentially more likely to get hurt (and there’s no real proof it does) you can run with that (pun intended?). Allen is on pace to run about 130-140x this year. That’s substantial risk if you subscribe to your theory. Allen is hardly out there “protecting himself.”

It’s hilarious you blame the mostly immobile Jimmy G for trying to escape the run, yet adopt the theory Allen isn’t a running quarterback because he “only runs 16% of the time.”

And yet again, you miss what the actual discussion was about.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 11:41:53 AM
And yet again, you miss what the actual discussion was about.

Yeah, I really don’t think that’s the case. Justin Fields runs too much, I agree.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 02:48:59 PM
Yeah, I really don’t think that’s the case. Justin Fields runs too much, I agree.

And yet again, you missed what the discussion was about viz a viz Fields and Allen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: DoctorIntheFlat on December 23, 2022, 02:53:16 PM
I understand that. What you fail to comprehend is why Getsy is calling those runs. For the 100th time, it is because JFC is not a QB who can actually pass at this point.

You say this 25x more often than you acknowledge the line can't block and the receivers are practice squad caliber. But hey, at least you're "fair."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: DoctorIntheFlat on December 23, 2022, 02:55:25 PM
And yet again, you missed what the discussion was about viz a viz Fields and Allen.

Both run a lot. One runs even more often. He also doesn't call his own plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 03:02:27 PM
And you also never acknowledge the fact you have a defensive-minded head coach who surely understands that running the ball (something the Bears do quite well, best in the league in fact), helps an overmatched defense. You are a football moron.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 03:49:14 PM
Both run a lot. One runs even more often. He also doesn't call his own plays.

We can see that your sock puppet is on the spectrum as well.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 03:50:11 PM
And you also never acknowledge the fact you have a defensive-minded head coach who surely understands that running the ball (something the Bears do quite well, best in the league in fact), helps an overmatched defense. You are a football moron.

Scoring more points when you are behind in the 4th quarter helps too.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 23, 2022, 04:09:02 PM
We can see that your sock puppet is on the spectrum as well.

I laughed. Wait, should I laugh at somebody on the spectrum?! I feel like Tempo is gonna say I hate people with disabilities or something now…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 04:41:54 PM
Scoring more points when you are behind in the 4th quarter helps too.

How many points do you think this offense is scoring without Justin Fields?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 04:42:43 PM
I laughed. Wait, should I laugh at somebody on the spectrum?! I feel like Tempo is gonna say I hate people with disabilities or something now…

I noticed you were pretty quiet in the deuce when I proved you wrong yet again. Good move. Clown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 04:44:37 PM
Scoring more points when you are behind in the 4th quarter helps too.

Your primary beef seems to be with the HC and OC, you know the ones who call the game. We all know this line can’t pass block when the defense knows they are throwing. Yet you only hold Fields accountable. You are a football moron.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 04:46:22 PM
Your primary beef seems to be with the HC and OC, you know the ones who call the game. We all know this line can’t pass block when the defense knows they are throwing. Yet you only hold Fields accountable. You are a football moron.


Most improtant position on the field and when he gets time to throw he hasn't been very good. Sorry.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 04:46:47 PM
Justin Fields is the best player on the Bears, and it’s not particularly close now that Roquan is gone. Jaylon Johnson is the only other Bear in the discussion. So there’s that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 04:47:47 PM
How many points do you think this offense is scoring without Justin Fields?

Who is the QB? Joe Burrow? He has a bad line and can still throw when he has time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2022, 04:48:24 PM


Most improtant position on the field and when he gets time to throw he hasn't been very good. Sorry.

4th quarter 4th down drops notwithstanding. Dropped because “Fields can’t pass.” Also, “time” isn’t something he has had a lot of on a regular basis. Yes, he’s not been perfect when he’s had to be. Let’s cut him. Bring back Mitch.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2022, 05:19:48 PM
4th quarter 4th down drops notwithstanding. Dropped because “Fields can’t pass.” Also, “time” isn’t something he has had a lot of on a regular basis. Yes, he’s not been perfect when he’s had to be. Let’s cut him. Bring back Mitch.

He'd probably be close to the same in the Wingback position except not as fast runner. Good call!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 24, 2022, 06:56:22 AM
Boomer Esiason said “Justin Fields is a superstar. He needs two tackles, two wide receivers and as much help aS you can possibly give him.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 24, 2022, 08:02:18 AM
Just heard this morning Jaylon Johnson to the IR. That leaves rookie safety Jaquan Brisker as the Bears’ best defensive player.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 25, 2022, 03:37:01 PM
Broncos/Rams root for the tie! Would all but ensure neither pass the Bears in the draft.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 25, 2022, 04:31:07 PM
Broncos/Rams root for the tie! Would all but ensure neither pass the Bears in the draft.

Not with Russ cooking up lots of turnovers these days
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 25, 2022, 05:59:36 PM
Don’t think this tie scenario is going to work out…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 25, 2022, 06:00:40 PM
If you’re the Broncos how do you let Hackett coach the last two games? They are the biggest disappointment in the NFL this year. At least the Rams can blame injuries.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on December 25, 2022, 08:03:56 PM
If you’re the Broncos how do you let Hackett coach the last two games? They are the biggest disappointment in the NFL this year. At least the Rams can blame injuries.

I was told there was some sort of buyout that has to be negotiated.

Russell Wilson is really, really bad this season. Jerry Juedy is not a consistent threat. The RB situation was strange until Marlon Mack finally showed up. Of course, when you are losing 31-3, the running game isn't a lot of help.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 25, 2022, 08:13:54 PM
I was told there was some sort of buyout that has to be negotiated.

Russell Wilson is really, really bad this season. Jerry Juedy is not a consistent threat. The RB situation was strange until Marlon Mack finally showed up. Of course, when you are losing 31-3, the running game isn't a lot of help.

The new owners are massively rich. I wouldn’t think money would be a problem
 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 25, 2022, 08:22:47 PM
The new owners are massively rich. I wouldn’t think money would be a problem

I'm thinking they are rich in part because they don't throw their money away and they borrow money for things like football teams and have to make debt payments. Like The Twitter guy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 26, 2022, 12:08:53 PM
If you’re the Broncos how do you let Hackett coach the last two games? They are the biggest disappointment in the NFL this year. At least the Rams can blame injuries.

He gone.

https://twitter.com/broncos/status/1607432324152426496?s=46&t=GPt_k_vVb8RevYmNCWSDAw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 26, 2022, 01:02:39 PM
Hopefully this motivates the Broncos to win one more game and not threaten the Bears, top 2 draft status.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 26, 2022, 09:16:19 PM
https://twitter.com/barstoolchicago/status/1607573855391948801?s=46&t=zoeJUj0CXQVSsVf-r5Gblw
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 26, 2022, 09:22:03 PM
“Absolutely not,” Eberflus said Monday when asked whether the two injuries Fields sustained in the loss to the Bills would put his availability in question. “He’s good to go. He’s healthy, and he’s ready to go for this week.”

The quarterback also said postgame that he couldn’t bear full weight on his injured foot but expected to play out the string. Eberflus sees value in getting more reps for the second-year star.


Lol not sure I agree with Flus here. Fields re-injures his left shoulder and had his foot stepped on. I get that he needs more reps, but I don’t really agree with putting him out there hurt at 3-12. Two more starts isn’t likely to be the difference maker in getting him ready for next year.


https://www.bearsinsider.com/bears-intend-to-play-justin-fields-in-final-two-games/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 01:03:44 PM
He seems to have a point.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tTvGwWjd/82-B99-BD4-3-BDF-4-E06-9-B09-3-B6-B4-B3-D3-F6-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYPWZqhh)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 01:48:02 PM
He seems to have a point.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tTvGwWjd/82-B99-BD4-3-BDF-4-E06-9-B09-3-B6-B4-B3-D3-F6-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYPWZqhh)

One has been pretty good at his job (and does not help you tank) and the other helps you tank?

Eh, in all seriousness, yes it seems odd. If they wanted Fields to get reps, then he should be throwing more with instructions to get rid of the ball immediately if the rush is too much.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 02:27:19 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 02:34:51 PM
Lol

I know, right? They think Jaylon Johnson is more valuable than Fields!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 02:36:24 PM
Tempo, what do you think about Poles packaging the 1st round pick AND Fields to get more draft picks?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 03:34:37 PM
Tempo, what do you think about Poles packaging the 1st round pick AND Fields to get more draft picks?

Who’s gonna play quarterback?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 03:37:30 PM
I know, right? They think Jaylon Johnson is more valuable than Fields!

Your yearning to turn Fields into Joe Montana or Tom Brady is misguided (shocking). Fields will likely never be a “get rid of it quick” guy, and he shouldn’t (at this point or his career at least) because his ability to move around and make big plays is what makes him potentially special as a passer. Despite your yearning, Fields will never be Chad Pennington.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 03:38:38 PM
Tempo, what do you think about Poles packaging the 1st round pick AND Fields to get more draft picks?

Hit me with some numbers, and tell me who’s going to play quarterback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 03:46:30 PM
https://twitter.com/79illwill/status/1607566700916113408?s=46&t=Rs-7_0_HPBRoLIfLDbcZhg
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 03:48:25 PM
Who’s gonna play quarterback?

You don't think they would draft one?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 03:51:11 PM
Your yearning to turn Fields into Joe Montana or Tom Brady is misguided (shocking). Fields will likely never be a “get rid of it quick” guy, and he shouldn’t (at this point or his career at least) because his ability to move around and make big plays is what makes him potentially special as a passer. Despite your yearning, Fields will never be Chad Pennington.

But if he is still going to play despite a) being unable to move due to the foot and b) not wanting him running due to the shoulder, then don't you have to tell him to dump the ball at the slightest hint of pressure (and who cares about intentional grounding at this point)?

I hope he is not Chad Pennington.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 03:52:08 PM
You don't think they would draft one?

You just said trade the pick. You going with the 4th or 5th quarterback in the draft? Is that the plan?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 03:52:31 PM
Hit me with some numbers, and tell me who’s going to play quarterback.

Wouldn't it be a Herschel Walker-type draft pick haul if you throw in Fields?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 03:54:27 PM
But if he is still going to play despite a) being unable to move due to the foot and b) not wanting him running due to the shoulder, then don't you have to tell him to dump the ball at the slightest hint of pressure (and who cares about intentional grounding at this point)?

I hope he is not Chad Pennington.

I’m all for him working on timing routes etc. but you talk like you want him to play quarterback like Chad Pennington. I remember how relieved you were when Siemian was the starter (and they put up 10 points, largely on a pass that should have been picked off). We finally “had a real quarterback who’ll get the ball out quick.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 03:54:35 PM
You just said trade the pick. You going with the 4th or 5th quarterback in the draft? Is that the plan?

After Young and Stroud (puke), aren't there still QBs left expected to go in rounds 1-2 if not 1-4?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 03:56:06 PM
I’m all for him working on timing routes etc. but you talk like you want him to play quarterback like Chad Pennington. I remember how relieved you were when Siemian was the starter (and they put up 10 points, largely on a pass that should have been picked off).

They are tanking these last 2 games so if you are going to play him, you do not want him to get more hurt. Do you?

Siemian played hurt and was fine until the shot wore off.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 03:57:13 PM
Hit me with some numbers, and tell me who’s going to play quarterback.

When will the Manning nephew be draft eligible?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 03:57:21 PM
After Young and Stroud (puke), aren't there still QBs left expected to go in rounds 1-2 if not 1-4?

I think your plan sucks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 03:58:59 PM
I think your plan sucks.

Fields is thought of as the next superstar. Imagine the haul they can get for him AND the 1st round pick. Should be better than when Dallas traded Walker.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 28, 2022, 03:59:19 PM
You’re yearning to turn Fields into Joe Montana or Tom Brady is misguided (shocking). Fields will likely never be a “get rid of it quick” guy, and he shouldn’t (at this point or his career at least) because his ability to move around and make big plays is what makes him potentially special as a ***RUNNER***. Despite your yearning, Fields will never be Chad Pennington.

Fixed that for you…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 04:08:02 PM
Fixed that for you…

He’s already special as a runner. Buying time and making big plays downfield makes him *potentially* special as a passer. Reading comprehension matters.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 04:20:55 PM
Fields is thought of as the next superstar. Imagine the haul they can get for him AND the 1st round pick. Should be better than when Dallas traded Walker.

Why would you trade the next superstar quarterback?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 04:22:11 PM
Fixed that for you…

For a guy who has the same view on Fields as I do (he’s earned at least two more years), you sure seem to side with the PAMan a lot.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 04:31:35 PM
They are tanking these last 2 games so if you are going to play him, you do not want him to get more hurt. Do you?

Siemian played hurt and was fine until the shot wore off.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 04:32:19 PM
Should be better than when Dallas traded Walker.

🧌
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 04:47:02 PM
Why would you trade the next superstar quarterback?

For the same reason you would trade a superstar running back and failed senate candidate, because you need a ton of players.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 04:47:40 PM
🧌

Whatever you posted did not work.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 05:03:31 PM
Whatever you posted did not work.

It was a troll emoji.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 28, 2022, 05:51:39 PM
He’s already special as a runner. Buying time and making big plays downfield makes him *potentially* special as a passer. Reading comprehension matters.

Yes I think he’s bought himself the next two years. He’s just got a long ways to go as a passer in my opinion. I too hope he works hard this off-season to be better in that aspect of his game. Yes he needs more weapons but I have to think the staff isn’t calling a lot of those passing plays for a reason and knows something we don’t. To say you know more than the staff about his ability/lack of ability to throw is quite arrogant. I do hope he takes a step forward next year. I think he will too, but it’s not there yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 06:15:36 PM
It was a troll emoji.

He should bring a haul as the experts say he is a superstar in waiting and the Bear need at least 15-16 new starters. Seems to be a shortage of FA O linemen and WR, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 08:52:00 PM
Yes I think he’s bought himself the next two years. He’s just got a long ways to go as a passer in my opinion.

Ok, so we agree…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 08:52:52 PM
He should bring a haul as the experts say he is a superstar in waiting and the Bear need at least 15-16 new starters. Seems to be a shortage of FA O linemen and WR, right?

No one trades a 23 year old quarterback they think is going to be a star. Getting the quarterback is the hardest part of the equation. Good thing you’re not a GM.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 08:55:39 PM
Yes I think he’s bought himself the next two years. He’s just got a long ways to go as a passer in my opinion. I too hope he works hard this off-season to be better in that aspect of his game. Yes he needs more weapons but I have to think the staff isn’t calling a lot of those passing plays for a reason and knows something we don’t. To say you know more than the staff about his ability/lack of ability to throw is quite arrogant. I do hope he takes a step forward next year. I think he will too, but it’s not there yet.

Where the hell did I ever say that? All I ever said is that Justin Fields isn’t the only reason they don’t throw they ball a lot. There are multiple reasons for that, and Justin Fields is potentially one of them. That’s all I’ve  ever said. What’s moronic is to go all PAMan and only point the finger at Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 08:57:05 PM
For the 50th time, Justin Fields isn’t where we want him to be as a passer. That doesn’t mean a bad O-line, terrible receivers, and a conservative/defensive-minded head coach don’t also factor into the equation.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 28, 2022, 09:15:09 PM
Where the hell did I ever say that? All I ever said is that Justin Fields isn’t the only reason they don’t throw they ball a lot. There are multiple reasons for that, and Justin Fields is potentially one of them. That’s all I’ve  ever said. What’s moronic is to go all PAMan and only point the finger at Fields.

Ok, so we agree…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 09:52:43 PM
No one trades a 23 year old quarterback they think is going to be a star. Getting the quarterback is the hardest part of the equation. Good thing you’re not a GM.

You don't trade him if you KNOW he is going to be a star. We do not know that for sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:00:59 PM
Ok, so we agree…

Apparently so…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:03:19 PM
You don't trade him if you KNOW he is going to be a star. We do not know that for sure.

They aren’t trading him. Especially to draft the 4th or 5th best quarterback prospect in the draft. Absolute best case scenario they end up with the 3rd best prospect. You hypothetical would be more fun if it were even semi-realistic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:06:00 PM
You don't trade him if you KNOW he is going to be a star. We do not know that for sure.

I don’t think Poles trades for Claypool if he wasn’t sold on Fields being his guy. But if you want to give me a more logical scenario than “draft a qb mid 1st or 2nd round,” I’ll entertain your incredibly unlikely hypothetical.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:07:37 PM
I don’t think Poles trades for Claypool if he wasn’t sold on Fields being his guy. But if you want to give me a more logical scenario than “draft a qb mid 1st or 2nd round,” I’ll entertain your incredibly unlikely hypothetical.

Is the Kansas QB guy coming out?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:08:20 PM
Is the Kansas QB guy coming out?

Of the closet?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:09:42 PM
I don’t think Poles trades for Claypool if he wasn’t sold on Fields being his guy. But if you want to give me a more logical scenario than “draft a qb mid 1st or 2nd round,” I’ll entertain your incredibly unlikely hypothetical.

But now they still need WRs, plus O and D line and LB and probably a RB.

How many additional picks do you think Fields would be worth?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:10:26 PM
Of the closet?

His sexuality is irrelevant to me. Is he coming out of school for the NFL draft?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:13:29 PM
Is the Kansas QB guy coming out?

So you want to dump Justin Fields for a 6’0 quarterback who’s started 17 games over 3 years and gone 6-11? Best season by far was for 1,400 yards passing?

“There you go again…”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:16:21 PM
But now they still need WRs, plus O and D line and LB and probably a RB.

How many additional picks do you think Fields would be worth?

I can’t answer that question because it ain’t happening. Probably would be worth 2 1s, what was traded to get him. You are just trolling. You’re not going to get full value on Fields because he hasn’t produced enough as a passer yet. That doesn’t mean his future doesn’t appear bright. Many think it is (very bright).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:19:33 PM
That’s it! Dump Fields! We’ve found our guy!

(https://i.postimg.cc/5NLQTM0K/6-B329313-00-EF-44-C7-8457-2-EEA319-ECFA0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr1Jt2ff)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:20:17 PM
I can’t answer that question because it ain’t happening. Probably would be worth 2 1s, what was traded to get him. You are just trolling. You’re not going to get full value on Fields because he hasn’t produced enough as a passer yet. That doesn’t mean his future doesn’t appear bright. Many think it is (very bright).

Then, as there are many, you would think you could get more than you gave up to get him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:21:17 PM
That’s it! Dump Fields! We’ve found our guy!

(https://i.postimg.cc/5NLQTM0K/6-B329313-00-EF-44-C7-8457-2-EEA319-ECFA0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr1Jt2ff)

Is that the current scouting report on Fields?

Oh. I see now it says Daniels.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:22:35 PM
Then, as there are many, you would think you could get more than you gave up to get him.

“Many” what?

I don’t pretend to know what Fields would fetch in a trade. He’s got tremendous upside, but not fully developed yet. You tell me what he’d bring…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:23:07 PM
“Many” what?

I don’t pretend to know what Fields would fetch in a trade. He’s got tremendous upside, but not fully developed yet. You tell me what he’d bring…

Many who think he will be a star.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:24:07 PM
I see what you mean now. I know media and fans think he’s a rising star. What the Panthers GM thinks of him, I couldn’t say.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:24:28 PM
Odds are they will probably wind up picking the Manning kid in a few years.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:24:45 PM
I see what you mean now. I know media and fans think he’s a rising star. What the Panthers GM thinks of him, I couldn’t say.

Ok.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:26:23 PM
Is that the current scouting report on Fields?

Oh. I see now it says Daniels.

You think Fields lacks the arm strength to drive it downfield? Can he consistently hit guys on timing routes? I don’t know. What I do know is that he can chuck it downfield pretty easily.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:30:12 PM
You think Fields lacks the arm strength to drive it downfield? Can he consistently hit guys on timing routes? I don’t know. What I do know is that he can chuck it downfield pretty easily.

What do they say about the KY QB?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:36:15 PM
What do they say about the KY QB?

You just read the scouting report. And you basically are advocating dumping Fields for a small quarterback who went 6-11 over 3 seasons and produced 1,400 yards passing in easily his best season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:38:49 PM
According to the website I’m viewing they have Daniels as the 25th best QB prospect in the draft. Winner winner chicken dinner.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:39:42 PM
You just read the scouting report. And you basically are advocating dumping Fields for a small quarterback who went 6-11 over 3 seasons and produced 1,400 yards passing in easily his best season.
Yeah, he is an exciting runner who can pass a little. Saw him throw some balls with nice touch today. I am not even sure he is coming out.

What about the KY QB. I saw he was highly thought off and a possible 1st rounder.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:40:52 PM
My bad. I misread Ky as KU.

He’s rated the 3rd best QB prospect, likely to go too 5-6 or so. Perhaps as high as 2 or 3. So you’re going to have a very limited trading pool if you want to grab him. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 28, 2022, 10:45:53 PM
My bad. I misread Ky as KU.

He’s rated the 3rd best QB prospect, likely to go too 5-6 or so. Perhaps as high as 2 or 3. So you’re going to have a very limited trading pool if you want to grab him.

What's the mocks look like so far?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:52:40 PM
What's the mocks look like so far?

Most I’ve seen have Levis going to Indy at #5.

Let’s assume the Bears were to trade their pick. My guess would be 1) Young 2) Stroud 3) Anderson 4) Carter 5) Levis

But if everyone knows Indy is drafting Levis, he could jump to 2 or 3 if some other GM falls in love with him. Say, Carolina.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:54:38 PM
Unless someone in the top 4 really falls in love with Stroud or Levis, I don’t think you’re finding a trading partner. That would still net you one of those two.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2022, 10:55:15 PM
Regardless, Fields is going nowhere.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 12:04:52 AM
Most I’ve seen have Levis going to Indy at #5.

Let’s assume the Bears were to trade their pick. My guess would be 1) Young 2) Stroud 3) Anderson 4) Carter 5) Levis

But if everyone knows Indy is drafting Levis, he could jump to 2 or 3 if some other GM falls in love with him. Say, Carolina.

Who wants Stroud in that scenario?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on December 29, 2022, 12:27:24 AM
The Colts had better hopehopehope the QB they pick works out. That franchise is rapidly becoming a joke.

Also, if I had a pick ahead of Indy, I would be looking to put the screws to them because you know they want to trade up. The draft is about two things: (1) getting good players and (2) screwing over stupid teams and GMs. The Bears have done poorly at both of these things, although they manage to be a willing participant in the "getting screwed" part of #2.

Furthermore, remember when the Bears made good draft picks? You have to think back pretty far at this point. I guess Eddie Jackson was a good pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:21:27 AM
Who wants Stroud in that scenario?

I’m guessing someone, since he’s projected to go as high 1 and probably no lower than 5 or 6.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:23:11 AM
The Colts had better hopehopehope the QB they pick works out. That franchise is rapidly becoming a joke.

Also, if I had a pick ahead of Indy, I would be looking to put the screws to them because you know they want to trade up. The draft is about two things: (1) getting good players and (2) screwing over stupid teams and GMs. The Bears have done poorly at both of these things, although they manage to be a willing participant in the "getting screwed" part of #2.

Furthermore, remember when the Bears made good draft picks? You have to think back pretty far at this point. I guess Eddie Jackson was a good pick.

I’m not sure Ballard is the kind of GM that is going to fall for the banana in the tailpipe (like Ryan Pace).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:25:23 AM
The Colts had better hopehopehope the QB they pick works out. That franchise is rapidly becoming a joke.

Also, if I had a pick ahead of Indy, I would be looking to put the screws to them because you know they want to trade up. The draft is about two things: (1) getting good players and (2) screwing over stupid teams and GMs. The Bears have done poorly at both of these things, although they manage to be a willing participant in the "getting screwed" part of #2.

Furthermore, remember when the Bears made good draft picks? You have to think back pretty far at this point. I guess Eddie Jackson was a good pick.

Ryan Pace was pretty good with 4th rounders and later, and with defense. Unfortunately, that’s not a good way to build franchises. You need more 1st and 2nd day hits.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 11:53:08 AM
PAMan has convinced me to move on from Fields and to rebuild around a quarterback who went 6-12 in college. Because win/loss record is the most important quarterback stat.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 12:54:14 PM
PAMan has convinced me to move on from Fields and to rebuild around a quarterback who went 6-12 in college. Because win/loss record is the most important quarterback stat.

Would not say so in college as the talent gaps are usually vast. How hard you can throw the out route and throwing as the receiver makes the break, maybe?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 29, 2022, 02:25:22 PM
The worst commissioner in the history of commissioners might just be the next president of the Bears

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1608517752116887553
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 29, 2022, 04:19:03 PM
The worst commissioner in the history of commissioners might just be the next president of the Bears

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1608517752116887553

😂 what the fuck?! That would be fucking TERRIBLE!!!! I might actually stop being a Bears fan. Seriously, fuck that!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 04:37:07 PM
The worst commissioner in the history of commissioners might just be the next president of the Bears

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1608517752116887553

Why is he the worst commissioner in the history of commissioners?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 04:37:42 PM
😂 what the fuck?! That would be fucking TERRIBLE!!!! I might actually stop being a Bears fan. Seriously, fuck that!

You suffered 25 years of Ted Phillips but draw the line at Kevin Warren?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 04:40:59 PM
He actually held jobs in the NFL before becoming B1G Commissioner. Was the COO of the Viking and oversaw the construction of U.S. Bank Stadium.

He may actually be qualified for the job, which would be different from what we have seen from the McCaskeys.

Do we know if he likes Italian beef with giardiniera?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 04:43:21 PM
Why is he the worst commissioner in the history of commissioners?

He loves OSU and MI. Plus, the ultimate sin, he stole the B1G BBall title from the Illini and gave it to MI during The COVID. Remember?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 29, 2022, 05:03:12 PM
Would not say so in college as the talent gaps are usually vast. How hard you can throw the out route and throwing as the receiver makes the break, maybe?
Is he talking about the QB who took his team to a post season game ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 29, 2022, 05:06:10 PM
Is he talking about the QB who took his team to a post season game ?

Doesn’t matter. He didn’t win the championship so 🤷🏻‍♂️ eh
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 05:11:47 PM
Is he talking about the QB who took his team to a post season game ?

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 05:12:49 PM
Doesn’t matter. He didn’t win the championship so 🤷🏻‍♂️ eh

Hahaha. Good one.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 05:14:02 PM
He loves OSU and MI. Plus, the ultimate sin, he stole the B1G BBall title from the Illini and gave it to MI during The COVID. Remember?

I do remember that. But honestly, I didn’t know who Kevin Warren was until today. B1G commish could have still be Jim Delaney for all I knew (although I was fairly sure he moved on, just didn’t know his replacement).  But yeah, Illinois got hosed. But then that’s our job.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 05:15:43 PM
Is he talking about the QB who took his team to a post season game ?

Any chance you’d clean this comment up, so I can be sure what you’re referring to? Because I’m pretty sure it’s hilarious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on December 29, 2022, 05:42:13 PM
In the COVID season, all of the teams agreed that if an unequal number of conference games had been played, then winning percentage would decide the title. Michigan had the highest winning percentage.

You can disagree with the decision or how Michigan got to that point, but nobody got ripped off. Considering the previous season ended abruptly with no tournament, I wasn't giving it too much thought.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 07:08:26 PM
In the COVID season, all of the teams agreed that if an unequal number of conference games had been played, then winning percentage would decide the title. Michigan had the highest winning percentage.

You can disagree with the decision or how Michigan got to that point, but nobody got ripped off. Considering the previous season ended abruptly with no tournament, I wasn't giving it too much thought.

An agreement is an agreement.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 29, 2022, 07:30:21 PM
Any chance you’d clean this comment up, so I can be sure what you’re referring to? Because I’m pretty sure it’s hilarious.
You were talking about the Kansas QB who saw post-season play. Yes, Kansas went to the post-season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 29, 2022, 08:49:19 PM
In the COVID season, all of the teams agreed that if an unequal number of conference games had been played, then winning percentage would decide the title. Michigan had the highest winning percentage.

You can disagree with the decision or how Michigan got to that point, but nobody got ripped off. Considering the previous season ended abruptly with no tournament, I wasn't giving it too much thought.

Michigan could have also been playing games and chose not to.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 08:50:17 PM
See Tempo? People still pissed about this. At least Custard is!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 29, 2022, 08:51:06 PM
See Tempo? People still pissed about this. At least Custard is!

He’s right though. It is/was complete bullshit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 08:52:11 PM
You were talking about the Kansas QB who saw post-season play. Yes, Kansas went to the post-season.

And he threw for over 500 yards in his bowl game. That is about 5 games worth of yards for... Ahhh nevermind.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 08:52:42 PM
He’s right though. It is/was complete bullshit.

I contemplated adding your name to that post. Should have done it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 08:56:42 PM
You were talking about the Kansas QB who saw post-season play. Yes, Kansas went to the post-season.

Lol that’s what I thought. Thanks for confirming. You are the most unintentionally funny poster on the forum. And you do it with so few words. Kudos.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 08:57:40 PM
And he threw for over 500 yards in his bowl game. That is about 5 games worth of yards for... Ahhh nevermind.

I wish there were room in my sig for this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 29, 2022, 08:57:46 PM
I contemplated adding your name to that post. Should have done it.

It’s cool. I mean as a fan, isn’t that part of being one?! That is the type of stuff that we should/can be pissed about. It’s part of rooting for your team. If you can’t do things like that, what’s the point?

If you’re only happy if your team wins a championship, then damn, you’re gonna be pretty miserable whomever your team is. That’s exactly why B1G championships and conference titles are for. It is important.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:03:20 PM
And he threw for over 500 yards in his bowl game. That is about 5 games worth of yards for... Ahhh nevermind.

Hey Mn, make sure you’re tuned in for this one, too. Almost as impressive as throwing for 385 yards and 6 touchdowns on only 28 attempts after being injured on a targeting call against…wait for it…Clemson (in the playoffs).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:08:14 PM
Hey guys, Justin Fields destroyed Clemson in the playoffs, but Jalon Daniels threw for 35% of his season total in yards in the Liberty Bowl. Dump Fields, draft Daniels (with the 2nd pick before someone else nabs him!).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 09:09:20 PM
Hey guys, Justin Fields destroyed Clemson in the playoffs, but Jalon Daniels threw for 35% of his season total in yards in the Liberty Bowl. Dump Fields, draft Daniels (with the 2nd pick before someone else nabs him!).

Didn't Daniels miss a chunk of the season injured?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 09:10:40 PM
They should draft someone to provide some competition at camp unless they move Fields for more draft picks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 09:11:31 PM
Hey guys, Justin Fields destroyed Clemson in the playoffs, but Jalon Daniels threw for 35% of his season total in yards in the Liberty Bowl. Dump Fields, draft Daniels (with the 2nd pick before someone else nabs him!).

What a mirage that Clemson game was.... Mercy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:24:44 PM
Didn't Daniels miss a chunk of the season injured?

So you like the plan, then?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:25:52 PM
They should draft someone to provide some competition at camp unless they move Fields for more draft picks.

Lol.

I have no problem adding “competition.” But it’s extremely unlikely he’ll be traded.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 09:30:11 PM
So you like the plan, then?

If they don't trade Fields for a ton of draft picks, sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 29, 2022, 09:40:52 PM
Hey Mn, make sure you’re tuned in for this one, too. Almost as impressive as throwing for 385 yards and 6 touchdowns on only 28 attempts after being injured on a targeting call against…wait for it…Clemson (in the playoffs).
Old axiom in sports. You're only as good as your last game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:42:27 PM
If they don't trade Fields for a ton of draft picks, sure.

No, I mean you like the plan of dumping Fields and drafting Daniels? Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:43:00 PM
Old axiom in sports. You're only as good as your last game.

Or in this case, as dumb as your last post.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:44:38 PM
If they don't trade Fields for a ton of draft picks, sure.

What do you think they would get for Fields?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 09:45:45 PM
No, I mean you like the plan of dumping Fields and drafting Daniels? Lol

No, trade him and the 2d for a ton of draft picks. You can't waive him.due to salary cap issues. Need too many players.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:47:34 PM
Fer sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 09:52:25 PM
What do you think they would get for Fields?

Well, you say many believe he is a superstar in the making, so close to, but not quite, the Walker trade.

The Cowboy got 4 players and
*Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1990
*Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1990
*Minnesota's 6th round pick in 1990
*Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional on cutting one of the 4 players they got)
*Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional on cutting another of the players they got)
*Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting yet another player they got in the trade)
*Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1992 (condition met by trading away Nelson)
*Minnesota's 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional on cutting Stewart)

Given what you say the experts think, I guess I'll go with the 8 draft picks in exchange for Fields and the 2d pick. Sound good?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:55:46 PM
You’re really doing some shitty trolling tonight. I expect better from you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 09:56:50 PM
You’re really doing some shitty trolling tonight. I expect better from you.

You have said that many experts believe he is a superstar in the making.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 09:58:24 PM
You have said that many experts believe he is a superstar in the making.

Too many adult beverages tonight? Your troll work is usually much better than this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 10:00:08 PM
Too many adult beverages tonight? Your troll work is usually much better than this.

What do you think they could get for Fields and the 2?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 10:01:07 PM
What do you think they could get for Fields and the 2?

No clue.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 10:02:49 PM
No clue.

Hmm. Could they get a 1st round for Fields and the 2?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 10:04:12 PM
As far as the 2nd pick, the 49ers gave the Dolphins 3 1sts for the 3rd, so hopefully something close to that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 10:05:00 PM
As far as the 2nd pick, the 49ers gave the Dolphins 3 1sts, so hopefully something close to that.

Fields is not worth 5 draft picks?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 10:05:22 PM
Fields is not worth 5 draft picks?

You’d have to ask a GM who is interested in him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 10:06:57 PM
You’d have to ask a GM who is interested in him.

Is he worth as much as Ditka gave up for Ricky Williams?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 10:23:45 PM
Is he worth as much as Ditka gave up for Ricky Williams?

Is this a real question?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 10:24:24 PM
You get an F for tonight, buddy. Maybe sit a few plays out and try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 10:25:17 PM
Is this a real question?

He's a budding superstar at the most important position on the field and you don't think he is worth as much as a running back?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 10:26:39 PM
Did one of your kids steal your login info?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 10:27:49 PM
Did one of your kids steal your login info?
It seems you don't think he is worth much in a trade.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 10:29:41 PM
I didn’t see Willie Mays play at the end of his career, but this must be what it looked like.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 10:34:46 PM
I didn’t see Willie Mays play at the end of his career, but this must be what it looked like.

Hahaha. Still waiting on what you think he could bring in a trade.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 10:35:45 PM
Hahaha. Still waiting on what you think he could bring in a trade.

Probably a 6th rounder. Maybe a 5th if you find a sucker.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 10:39:27 PM
Probably a 6th rounder. Maybe a 5th if you find a sucker.

Really?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 10:40:19 PM
Really?

Yep.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 10:41:48 PM
This has not been a good night for you, PAMan. You should get some rest and try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 29, 2022, 10:42:53 PM
Yep.

I'm surprised.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 29, 2022, 11:38:42 PM
Is PAMan named Joe?

(https://i.postimg.cc/8P9Rby9T/B5-AC2-C59-2540-45-A4-B347-F9970-EAF0-CD6.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 30, 2022, 07:23:48 AM
Is PAMan named Joe?

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I thought you said I was out there alone on this island....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 30, 2022, 07:58:16 AM
I thought you said I was out there alone on this island....

So you’re claiming this guy, huh? That’s a good look for you.

Alone? Not a chance. There are still people who think Trubisky should still be quarterbacking the Bears. In the minority? Absolutely.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 30, 2022, 01:56:48 PM
There are still people who think Trubisky should still be quarterbacking the Bears.

No way.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 30, 2022, 02:47:37 PM
No way.
NW siders and S siders.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 30, 2022, 03:16:48 PM
No way.

Not sure I’ve seen it the last 6-8 weeks, but I’ve seen it occasionally this year. “All Mitch did was win.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 30, 2022, 04:43:08 PM
Not sure I’ve seen it the last 6-8 weeks, but I’ve seen it occasionally this year. “All Mitch did was win.”

Get out of town.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 30, 2022, 05:00:00 PM
Get out of town.

You still saw it from time to time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 07:47:07 PM
So question Tempo…

Would you rather have Fields or Burrow?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 07:51:51 PM
Burrow, of course. He’s a completely known commodity. But Fields’ potential is through the roof, and he’s clearly earned a couple more years on this team. And I like his toughness and leadership qualities.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 07:53:08 PM
Burrow, of course. He’s a completely known commodity. But Fields’ potential is through the roof, and he’s clearly earned a couple more years on this team. And I like his toughness and leadership qualities.

I'm not sure he has earned it, but we all know it is his job for the next 2 to 3 years.

Hopefully he and the cast around him improves.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 07:57:32 PM
Good news is they threw it. Bad news, well, you saw it.

I guess being critical of Fields’ passing week 2 wasn’t early enough for PAMan. “Only lately.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 07:58:29 PM
I'm not sure he has earned it, but we all know it is his job for the next 2 to 3 years.

Hopefully he and the cast around him improves.

He’s earned it more than anyone else has. At any position on the team. Save Jaylon Johnson.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 07:59:25 PM
Do you think if Andy Dalton (shitty QB now), for example, was on the team and the starting QB that his passing numbers would be this bad?! I mean his supporting cast would be the same, but I can almost guarantee his # would be much better with same players. It’s because he can pass the ball and get it to receivers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:00:13 PM
Fields is obviously far from a finished product, but the Bears have the worst receiving corps in the NFL and it’s probably not close. No separation.

September 18th. Not early enough for PAMan. “Only lately.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:01:20 PM
Do you think if Andy Dalton (shitty QB now), for example, was on the team and the starting QB that his passing numbers would be this bad?! I mean his supporting cast would be the same, but I can almost guarantee his # would be much better with same players. It’s because he can pass the ball and get it to receivers.

Yes, and the offense wouldn’t be nearly as explosive. But he could probably dink and dunk his way to 200 yards most games.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:02:33 PM
September 18th. Not early enough for PAMan. “Only lately.”

My deadline was before 9/18.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:02:55 PM
This offense probably wouldn’t average 16 PPG with Dalton.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:05:02 PM
Do you think if Andy Dalton (shitty QB now), for example, was on the team and the starting QB that his passing numbers would be this bad?! I mean his supporting cast would be the same, but I can almost guarantee his # would be much better with same players. It’s because he can pass the ball and get it to receivers.

The passing numbers would not be this bad. The offensive scheme would be  different obviously and you would see play action and slants. I'm thinking the WRs would not be thought of as poorly as they are now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 08:07:06 PM
Claypool did just fine with an actual QB that could pass the ball to him. It’s not like he can’t play at a high level either but he requires a QB to get him the ball. Fields gets it from the center every snap and has much more opportunities to make plays than a WR too.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:07:29 PM
The passing numbers would be a little better. The offense would be worse and less explosive (i.e. score less points), so there is that. But at least he’d be 18 for 30 with 202 yards 1 TD 1 INT a fumble and 13 points scored.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:08:20 PM
Claypool did just fine with an actual QB that could pass the ball to him.

Then why did Pittsburgh trade him? Minus one blowup game he’s been an underachiever his entire career.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 08:09:46 PM
Then why did Pittsburgh trade him? Minus one blowup game he’s been an underachiever his entire career.

Why give up on him so soon but keep holding hope for Fields? It’s only 1 more season of play.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 08:10:41 PM
Then why did Pittsburgh trade him? Minus one blowup game he’s been an underachiever his entire career.

Why do any teams trade good players?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:11:52 PM
Then why did Pittsburgh trade him? Minus one blowup game he’s been an underachiever his entire career.

Probably because Pitt knew they could be getting the 30 something pick in the draft for him?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:12:41 PM
Why give up on him so soon but keep holding hope for Fields? It’s only 1 more season of play.

Wouldn’t necessarily say I’ve given up on him, but I’m not expecting him to return value. He’s clearly got maturity issues. He’s scored 3 touchdowns in his last 24 games. Talented, but a knucklehead it seems.

Comparing a 3rd year WR to a 2nd year QB in a new system with no quality blockers is a hilarious comp. The coaches don’t even have enough confidence to put Claypool on the Field over last WR on the roster types. That should tell you something.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:15:35 PM
Wouldn’t necessarily say I’ve given up on him, but I’m not expecting him to return value. He’s clearly got maturity issues. He’s scored 3 touchdowns in his last 24 games. Talented, but a knucklehead it seems.

Comparing a 3rd year WR to a 2nd year QB in a new system with no quality blockers is a hilarious comp. The coaches don’t even have enough confidence to put Claypool on the Field over last WR on the roster types. That should tell you something.

It also tells you something when Eberlose tells reporters that Fields was in at the end of the game because they think he needs the "live experience..."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:16:31 PM
Why do any teams trade good players?

“Good” might be stretching it. Talented? Yes. They traded him because suckers exist.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:17:35 PM
It also tells you something when Eberlose tells reporters that Fields was in at the end of the game because they think he needs the "live experience..."

I see both sides of this argument. I also think it’s unlikely 2-3 possessions is going to be the difference in Justin Fields’ development for next year. An ACL tear or off season shoulder surgery might be.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:18:42 PM
I see both sides of this argument. I also think it’s unlikely 2-3 possessions is going to be the difference in Justin Fields’ development for next year. An ACL tear or off season shoulder surgery might be.

True. I also doubt he would have been better off standing next to Getsy those last few plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:19:56 PM
Probably because Pitt knew they could be getting the 30 something pick in the draft for him?

GMs get desperate and do dumb things sometimes. All of them do. No one’s track record is spotless. Hopefully it either works out nicely or this is Poles’ big screw up (likely with Velus Jones). Which begs the question: can Poles evaluate the receiver position?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 08:20:02 PM
It also tells you something when Eberlose tells reporters that Fields was in at the end of the game because they think he needs the "live experience..."

And the coaches apparently don’t have enough confidence in Fields to throw the ball either.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:21:31 PM
True. I also doubt he would have been better off standing next to Getsy those last few plays.

Definitely less risk of him getting hurt. Ironic though, since you’re the guy who thought standing next to Getsy all year would be the most beneficial thing to his development.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:22:56 PM
And the coaches apparently don’t have enough confidence in Fields to throw the ball either.

Or when a D HC has a crap defense despite having what looks to be a decent, but young, secondary.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:24:18 PM
Definitely less risk of him getting hurt. Ironic though, since you’re the guy who thought standing next to Getsy all year would be the most beneficial thing to his development.

Not much to be learned at the end of that one.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:24:48 PM
And the coaches apparently don’t have enough confidence in Fields to throw the ball either.

Minus starting every snap (even when hurt) and 20-28 throws a game. Chase played 4 snaps in the first half (not sure how many in 2nd). Velus and Wesco both played 5 and 4 snaps. You really barking up this tree? Strange tactical approach.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:26:00 PM
Minus starting every snap (even when hurt) and 20-28 throws a game. Chase played 4 snaps in the first half (not sure how many in 2nd). Velus and Wesco both played 5 and 4 snaps. You really barking up this tree? Strange tactical approach.

Pringle got hurt and went to the hospital
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 08:29:56 PM
Minus starting every snap (even when hurt) and 20-28 throws a game. Chase played 4 snaps in the first half (not sure how many in 2nd). Velus and Wesco both played 5 and 4 snaps. You really barking up this tree? Strange tactical approach.

And he completed 7 of them. 7. For 3.6 yards each on average. So who’s the QB dinking and dunking now?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 08:34:43 PM
And he completed 7 of them. 7. For 3.6 yards each on average. So who’s the QB dinking and dunking now?

Lol

If you think Fields is a dinker and dunker you don’t watch the games. “Hey look, I found one games’ worthy of evidence that supports my point.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 08:46:13 PM
Lol

If you think Fields is a dinker and dunker you don’t watch the games. “Hey look, I found one games’ worthy of evidence that supports my point.”

No it’s usually just one big pass play and one or two big runs and that’s it. And none of that in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 01, 2023, 09:03:38 PM
No it’s usually just one big pass play and one or two big runs and that’s it. And none of that in the 4th quarter.

Why do I feel like PAManJr may be joining the board?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 09:07:32 PM
Why do I feel like PAManJr may be joining the board?

ThePAMan = Judge Judy is a match. The longest mult con in history.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 09:08:26 PM
Why do I feel like PAManJr may be joining the board?

But it’s true.

Again, that doesn’t mean that he can’t become a good passer. He’s just not right now. Like at all really. He is a more talented Taysom Hill currently, but at some point that’s all it is is talent.
 
I mean isn’t that Claypool for you after one more year than Fields? Just underachieving talent?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 06:58:37 AM
Ok, but where are the wins?

(https://i.postimg.cc/SKqBqWj5/A4-B097-D7-7-EA8-4213-BB41-E174-F0222-FC4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rDnnNR1C)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 07:01:43 AM
But it’s true.

Again, that doesn’t mean that he can’t become a good passer. He’s just not right now. Like at all really. He is a more talented Taysom Hill currently, but at some point that’s all it is is talent.
 
I mean isn’t that Claypool for you after one more year than Fields? Just underachieving talent?

Bro. One guy is being hailed by many as the league's next superstar and one can’t get on the field above Dante Pettis and N’Keal Harry. Your “perspective” sucks.

And that’s not me saying Fields is an accomplished passer. He needs to improve. He also has very little help.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 02, 2023, 07:30:19 AM
It's management's job to not set a franchise record 9 consecutive losses.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 09:02:59 AM
Bro. One guy is being hailed by many as the league's next superstar and one can’t get on the field above Dante Pettis and N’Keal Harry. Your “perspective” sucks.

And that’s not me saying Fields is an accomplished passer. He needs to improve. He also has very little help.

Hailed by many on The Twitter and ESPN, and The Score, (how could I forget the geniuses on The Score?),  Judge Judy!!!!! What a joke.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 09:07:51 AM
It's management's job to not set a franchise record 9 consecutive losses.

They certainly are a really bad team with a lot of bad players. Maybe they can become better with more "live experience."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 09:14:21 AM
You cannot make up Tempo and his continued reliance on The Twitter experts and Parkins, Bernstein, et al. when the Bear HC just stood up and told everyone the Budding Superstar Wingback was still in a 41 - 10 game against the Lion second defense because he still needed "live experience" in Game 16 of the season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 02, 2023, 09:15:19 AM
They certainly are a really bad team with a lot of bad players. Maybe ge can become better with more "live experience."
More "live experience" may end up getting him killed.
Maybe Fields should call plays instead of the not yet HOF Getsy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 09:18:14 AM
More "live experience" may end up getting him killed.
Maybe Fields should call plays instead of the not yet HOF Getsy.

Remember when Parkins/Tempo wanted to fire Eberlose so the Bear could hire Getsy as HC?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 09:19:18 AM
It's management's job to not set a franchise record 9 consecutive losses.

It’s also management’s job to get better players and they can get a great one or even more great/really good ones by getting that 1st or 2nd pick. Seriously, who cares? A moron could see what’s going on here. The goal for the season was never to be good. I’ll gladly take the 10 losses in a row if it means the Bears get 2-3 extra high draft choices out of it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 09:21:50 AM
Hailed by many on The Twitter and ESPN, and The Score, (how could I forget the geniuses on The Score?),  Judge Judy!!!!! What a joke.

Idiot, you’ve got current and former NFL players saying he’s the future of the league. You are easily the biggest meatball here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 02, 2023, 09:29:25 AM
It’s also management’s job to get better players and they can get a great one or even more great/really good ones by getting that 1st or 2nd pick. Seriously, who cares? A moron could see what’s going on here. The goal for the season was never to be good. I’ll gladly take the 10 losses in a row if it means the Bears get 2-3 extra high draft choices out of it.
Nobody has a business plan for setting a franchise record for consecutive losses.
Nobody.
Mitch Trubisky was a #2 pick.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 09:35:01 AM
Nobody has a business plan for setting a franchise record for consecutive losses.
Nobody.
Mitch Trubisky was a #2 pick.

You are meatball 1b here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 09:35:53 AM
Tarik Cohen (who’s seen him in practice) says he’s “crazy talented and can make all the throws.”

https://twitter.com/mrcontroversy21/status/1608556263897722880?s=46&t=fJGdLVv3HB9hljtpKjB6HA
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 09:37:48 AM
Cohen and the team saw a throw in a game and he said the whole sideline was saying “we got one.” But according to PAMan, it’s just Twitter and ESPN. Dope.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 09:40:20 AM
You cannot make up Tempo and his continued reliance on The Twitter experts and Parkins, Bernstein, et al. when the Bear HC just stood up and told everyone the Budding Superstar Wingback was still in a 41 - 10 game against the Lion second defense because he still needed "live experience" in Game 16 of the season.

Again, you disingenuous near-sighted schlup, I told you I get both sides of that argument. It’s possible to see both sides and nuance, you know. And you guys claim I’m the one who lacks nuance. Can’t make this up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 09:44:02 AM
Kyle Long expressed his regret his body to hold up long enough to play with Justin Fields, but according to our local resident football expert, it’s “only people on the Twitter and The Score! How could he forget the geniuses at The Score?!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 09:46:44 AM
"They are playing to his skill set, and he's a great runner. He has all the tools to be, you know, one of the greatest quarterbacks ever in NFL history. He's doing what works right now, and those type of players and those type of teams are dangerous."

Von Miller - future HOFer and possible Score/ESPN host
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 09:49:08 AM
Is Bruce Arians just a Danny Parkins stooge? Here he calls Justin Fields a rising superstar.

https://twitter.com/eriklambert1/status/1564811098494324737?s=46&t=X7taYqwadLQVy1mqXQc7xQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 02, 2023, 09:49:53 AM
You are meatball 1b here.

"The franchise has also recorded more victories than any other franchise (739), "
The Poles' team just set the franchise record for consecutive losses.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 09:59:09 AM
"The franchise has also recorded more victories than any other franchise (739), "
The Poles' team just set the franchise record for consecutive losses.

It’s hilarious to me that you think this is a clever or insightful take.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 10:00:28 AM
Remember when Parkins/Tempo wanted to fire Eberlose so the Bear could hire Getsy as HC?

I never once said that you lying POS. You are so fucking disingenuous.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 10:21:18 AM
Yeah, that’s a dumb topic.

Here’s me saying that Danny Parkins’ idea of firing Eberflus to keep Getsy is a “dumb topic.” But according to the TheLiarMan I was all for it.

You are so disingenuous PAMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 10:24:51 AM
Screenshotted for TheLiarMan’s convenience. It’s on page 70 if you want to click the link.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pyb3XKr7/FD2-B70-D6-0734-414-E-AB7-F-05-B6286-B806-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/m1jmmzQN)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 11:23:37 AM
Screenshotted for TheLiarMan’s convenience. It’s on page 70 if you want to click the link.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pyb3XKr7/FD2-B70-D6-0734-414-E-AB7-F-05-B6286-B806-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/m1jmmzQN)

You said it was a dumb topic. That can mean a dumb topic to discuss since it is a "given," especially given  how much you fellate The Score hosts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 11:25:00 AM
It’s hilarious to me that you think this is a clever or insightful take.

Maybe Mn just needs 3 to 5 more "live experiences" to be a quality poster in your eyes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 11:25:56 AM
Is Bruce Arians just a Danny Parkins stooge? Here he calls Justin Fields a rising superstar.

https://twitter.com/eriklambert1/status/1564811098494324737?s=46&t=X7taYqwadLQVy1mqXQc7xQ

Bruce Arians did get fired from his last job despite winning the SuperBowl
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 11:27:00 AM
It’s also management’s job to get better players and they can get a great one or even more great/really good ones by getting that 1st or 2nd pick. Seriously, who cares? A moron could see what’s going on here. The goal for the season was never to be good. I’ll gladly take the 10 losses in a row if it means the Bears get 2-3 extra high draft choices out of it.

Even Bobby Douglass did not lose 9 games in a row
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 11:27:49 AM
You said it was a dumb topic. That can mean a dumb topic to discuss since it is a "given," especially given  how much you fellate The Score hosts.

Fuck you, asshole.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 11:30:53 AM
Fuck you, asshole.

LOL. Looks like you need some more "live experiences" against the HQ2 Second Team!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 11:31:04 AM
Bruce Arians did get fired from his last job despite winning the SuperBowl

He stepped down, idiot. He was not fired. Now whether or not he was power played out is an entirely fair discussion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 11:32:49 AM
He stepped down, idiot. He was not fired. Now whether or not he was power played out is an entirely fair discussion.

Dude, Brady got him fired. C'mon now.

Sure looking like you need more live experience reps against the 2d team of the 32nd rated defense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 02, 2023, 11:45:35 AM
It’s hilarious to me that you think this is a clever or insightful take.
We're here to set franchise records. We didn't expect to do it so soon. Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 02, 2023, 12:11:01 PM
Sounds like I didn't miss much by not watching da Bear this season... lol

what a dumpster fire of a franchise
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 02, 2023, 12:18:12 PM

what a dumpster fire of a franchise
Record setting.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 12:19:02 PM
Record setting.

Mitch never lost 9 games in a row.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 12:43:21 PM
We're here to set franchise records. We didn't expect to do it so soon. Lol.

Anyone expecting Poles to come in and win games immediately, especially after making it clear the priority was setting up for the future isn’t very bright.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 12:44:17 PM
Sounds like I didn't miss much by not watching da Bear this season... lol

what a dumpster fire of a franchise

They literally traded away their “best” most expensive players. This is going more or less as planned.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 12:45:12 PM
Anyone expecting Poles to come in and win games immediately, especially after making it clear the priority was setting up for the future isn’t very bright.

He expected to lose 9 games straight? Talk about not being bright.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 12:45:21 PM
Dude, Brady got him fired. C'mon now.

Sure looking like you need more live experience reps against the 2d team of the 32nd rated defense.

Pushed out perhaps. Was he fired? No. And he certainly wasn’t fired because of incompetence. You are a clown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 12:46:36 PM
He expected to lose 9 games straight? Talk about not being bright.

Expected? Perhaps not. I’m sure he knew it was within the range of outcomes. This team literally has 4-5 competent starters and you idiots are wondering where the wins are. JFC are you guys dumb.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 12:46:43 PM
They literally traded away their “best” most expensive players. This is going more or less as planned.

I doubt they expected the Up and Coming Superstar Wingback to need more live experience against the 32d ranked D's 2d string in game 16 of the season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 02, 2023, 12:47:26 PM
Anyone expecting Poles to come in and win games immediately, especially after making it clear the priority was setting up for the future isn’t very bright.
Anybody who thinks setting a franchise record for ...
Oh, forget it. Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 12:47:33 PM
4-5 competent starters at this time might be being generous.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 12:48:13 PM
I doubt they expected the Up and Coming Superstar Wingback to need more live experience against the 32d ranked D's 2d string in game 16 of the season.

You debate like an ignorant child.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 02, 2023, 12:48:41 PM
This is going more or less as planned.
We've noticed. Record setting.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 12:49:30 PM
Anybody who thinks setting a franchise record for ...
Oh, forget it. Lol.

Anyone who doesn’t know what a tank/rebuild looks like might be, oh forget it. Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 12:52:21 PM
You debate like an ignorant child.

Who is the idiot again? Must be the ones who are skeptical about the great player who the coaches think needs more live reps against the 32d ranked D's second team?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 02, 2023, 12:54:54 PM
Anyone expecting Poles to come in and win games immediately, especially after making it clear the priority was setting up for the future isn’t very bright.

Agreed. The whole point all along was to tank this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 12:54:59 PM
We've noticed. Record setting.

Tariq Cohen saw the Wingback make a great throw against the Bear D in practice. Too bad he can't do it against the Lion 2d team D in mop up time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 12:56:16 PM
You debate like an ignorant child.

You may want to debate against the 2d string at 247. Even the HQ2 2d String are Pro Bowl caliber.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:00:31 PM
Who is the idiot again? Must be the ones who are skeptical about the great player who the coaches think needs more live reps against the 32d ranked D's second team?

You call yourself “skeptical?” You are beyond “skeptical.” Read my sig for proof.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:01:22 PM
Tariq Cohen saw the Wingback make a great throw against the Bear D in practice. Too bad he can't do it against the Lion 2d team D in mop up time.

If you’re going to troll, at least make it good trolling.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:02:23 PM
Agreed. The whole point all along was to tank this year.

Or at least accept the probable very bad outcome while getting out from all of the bad contracts and players that don’t fit the timeline.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:03:44 PM
To be skeptical or critical is fine. To lay all of the blame (except those very rare moments you don’t) at the feet of Fields is unfair and dumb.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:04:47 PM
If you’re going to troll, at least make it good trolling.

I didn't bring up Tariq Cohen and a throw made during practice. You did.  Guy needs more live experience. Coach said so.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 02, 2023, 01:05:27 PM
Or at least accept the probable very bad outcome while getting out from all of the bad contracts and players that don’t fit the timeline.

I agree with this. Getting rid of those and getting as high a draft pick as possible has always been the plan this year. You give your franchise a chance to build from the ground up and reset the window, per se. It’s all about building value and having more valuable pieces to work with in the draft picks. Poles might or might not get the job done with those picks, but he definitely knows what it takes being in KC. It gives him more opportunities and chances to be correct.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:06:58 PM
I agree with this. Getting rid of those and getting as high a draft pick as possible has always been the plan this year. You give your franchise a chance to build from the ground up and reset the window, per se. Poles might or might not get the job done, but he definitely knows what it takes being in KC.

Hate to say its but so did Nagy, as he was in KC.....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:10:46 PM
I didn't bring up Tariq Cohen and a throw made during practice. You did.  Guy needs more live experience. Coach said so.

I did that to dispel your stupid narrative that the only people hyping Justin Fields are ESPN and The Score. You are fucking stupid.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 02, 2023, 01:11:00 PM
Hate to say its but so did Nagy, as he was in KC.....

Understand. Let’s just hope Poles learned more and he was/is at a higher building level than what Nagy was. Roster was all Pace’s doing here, not Nagy. And just because Nagy failed has no bearing on Poles success/failure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:11:26 PM
And I never once said he doesn’t need more reps.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:13:33 PM
I did that to dispel your stupid narrative that the only people hyping Justin Fields are ESPN and The Score. You are fucking stupid.

So you admit bringing it up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:14:04 PM
And Tarik Cohen mentioned “a throw” in a game, not practice. He said he saw a lot of great throws in practice.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:14:36 PM
And Tarik Cohen mentioned “a throw” in a game, not practice. He said he saw a lot of great throws in practice.

Did he watch the game this weekend?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:14:46 PM
So you admit bringing it up.

Yes, to dispel your ignorant narrative.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:15:48 PM
I agree with this. Getting rid of those and getting as high a draft pick as possible has always been the plan this year. You give your franchise a chance to build from the ground up and reset the window, per se. It’s all about building value and having more valuable pieces to work with in the draft picks. Poles might or might not get the job done with those picks, but he definitely knows what it takes being in KC. It gives him more opportunities and chances to be correct.

Bingo.

“But where’s the wins?!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:16:24 PM
Yes, to dispel your ignorant narrative.

Did Tariq Cohen agree that The Wingback needed more live experience against the 32d ranked D's second team? The Bear HC sure thought so.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:17:15 PM
Hate to say its but so did Nagy, as he was in KC.....

Ryan Pace ran personnel, champ. And he was constantly giving away draft assets on bad picks, and giving way too much money to FAs who weren’t worth it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:18:14 PM
Did Tariq Cohen agree that The Wingback needed more live experience against the 32d ranked D's second team? The Bear HC sure thought so.

No one has argued differently. For the 5th time, I see both sides of this topic. You literally have no reading comprehension.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:18:57 PM
Ryan Pace ran personnel, champ. And he was constantly giving away draft assets on bad picks, and giving way too much money to FAs who weren’t worth it.

And Nagy sucked. Just because you were in KC does not mean you are any good when moving up a slot, chump.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:20:32 PM
No one has argued differently. For the 5th time, I see both sides of this topic. You literally have no reading comprehension.

16th game of the season. Should be past The Wingback needing live experience in mop up time, but here we are. Some superstar in the making. Hope he gets more live experience in the offseason. Maybe he should play in the USFL this season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:20:59 PM
I totally get that he needs more live reps. And I love the fact that Fields himself said he wants to be out there even when things aren’t going well. But as the longest ever tenured Chicago Bear said yesterday, “sometimes you’ve got to save a player from himself.” I totally get that Fields needs the work. I also get the fact we’d like him to go into the off-season not needing surgery on something.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:21:59 PM
I totally get that he needs more live reps. And I love the fact that Fields himself he wants to be out there even when things aren’t going well. But as the longest ever tenured Chicago Bear said yesterday, “sometimes you’ve got to save a player from himself.” I totally get that Fields needs the work. I also get the fact we’d like him to go into the off-season not needing surgery on something.

He should go to the USFL or XFL for the offseason live experience?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:22:27 PM
16th game of the season. Should be past The Wingback needing live experience in mop up time, but here we are. Some superstar in the making. Hope he gets more live experience in the offseason. Maybe he should play in the USFL this season.

You seriously are a dumb cock sucker. Yep. Every decent quarterback ever was completely developed by the end of season 2. All of them. Except for most of them.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:25:26 PM
You seriously are a dumb cock sucker. Yep. Every decent quarterback ever was completely developed by the end of season 2. All of them. Except for most of them.

Needed live experience against the 32nd ranked team's 2d string. Just awesome.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:26:23 PM
Needed live experience against the 32nd ranked team's 2d string. Just awesome.

Which was still getting to him too easily and often. Awesome. You are either very weird, or very dumb.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:29:38 PM
Which was still getting to him too easily and often. Awesome. You are either very weird, or very dumb.

Or the coaches know he sucks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 01:35:03 PM
Or the coaches know he sucks.

Bye, asshole.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 01:35:46 PM
Bye, asshole.

He sucks, snowflake
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 02, 2023, 03:31:37 PM
Looks like Poles weighed in…

(https://i.ibb.co/bBbYw8T/3-FE987-C0-4-E2-C-4-C3-F-9104-41-BB6-E5-CB9-A2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J7386MV)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 03:39:24 PM
Looks like Poles weighed in…

(https://i.ibb.co/bBbYw8T/3-FE987-C0-4-E2-C-4-C3-F-9104-41-BB6-E5-CB9-A2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J7386MV)

No shit. This is a devastating blow to anyone who says he’s a complete passer already.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 03:44:16 PM
No shit. This is a devastating blow to anyone who says he’s a complete passer QB already.

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 03:45:40 PM
Fixed that for you.

Seems he’s the one taking all the snaps for the Bears. So apparently he’s a QB. Sorry it doesn’t look the way you like it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 02, 2023, 03:45:56 PM
Primary job of a quarterback is to be able to, and to throw the ball. Running backs run the ball. That’s why they are called running backs. No shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 03:48:06 PM
Primary job of a quarterback is to be able to, and to throw the ball. Running backs run the ball. That’s why they are called running backs. No shit.

I bet if you were to poll the 32 GMs on what position Justin Fields plays, I bet it’d be unanimous that they say “quarterback.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 03:49:10 PM
And yes, right now his legs are much more advanced than his arm and passing. Never once argued differently. Not once. Ever.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 06:45:58 PM
Looks like Poles weighed in…

(https://i.ibb.co/bBbYw8T/3-FE987-C0-4-E2-C-4-C3-F-9104-41-BB6-E5-CB9-A2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J7386MV)

Had some The Goggle blurb that Eberlose considering Fields PT for the Viking game and a decision will be made later in the week. Maybe they want to salvage whatever trade value Fields may have?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 06:57:30 PM
Had some The Goggle blurb that Eberlose considering Fields PT for the Viking game and a decision will be made later in the week. Maybe they want to salvage whatever trade value Fields may have?

That’s what happens when you troll non-stop. You have to keep digging and digging until you are no longer believable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 07:06:46 PM
That’s what happens when you troll non-stop. You have to keep digging and digging until you are no longer believable.

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/eberflus-undecided-on-wholl-start-in-bears-season-finale-against-vikings/

When asked if he'll know by Wednesday who the starting quarterback will be, Eberflus said "potentially."


No need to apologize, Tempo.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 07:09:17 PM
The Goggle. More useful info than The Twitter and less Fake Stats like Win Probability.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 07:11:45 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-change-tune-plan-play-justin-fields-vs-vikings?amp=

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 08:06:06 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/eberflus-undecided-on-wholl-start-in-bears-season-finale-against-vikings/

When asked if he'll know by Wednesday who the starting quarterback will be, Eberflus said "potentially."


No need to apologize, Tempo.

Apologize for what?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 08:07:05 PM
Apologize for what?

Not believing me
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 02, 2023, 08:10:39 PM
Not believing me

Not only won’t apologize, but I’ll throw in a fuck you for good measure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 02, 2023, 08:13:01 PM
Not only won’t apologize, but I’ll throw in a fuck you for good measure.

LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 02, 2023, 09:48:21 PM
This thread fucking sucks
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 02:03:07 PM
Tempo, why is ESB getting a year extension?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 03:35:26 PM
Tempo, why is ESB getting a year extension?

Because they have to have players to fill the roster, and he’s a good blocker who can occasionally catch a ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 03:40:49 PM
Plus he’s cheap, because they literally have like 15 starting positions to fill.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 03:47:47 PM
Because they have to players to fill the roster, and he’s a good blocker who can occasionally catch a ball.

I thought they were getting rid of all the trash players this year. Especially the WRs who cannot get open so that someone can throw them the ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 03:50:44 PM
I thought they were getting rid of all the trash players this year. Especially the WRs who cannot get open so that someone can throw them the ball.

Now he can blame ESB when Fields can’t throw again next year 😁
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 04:40:01 PM
I thought they were getting rid of all the trash players this year. Especially the WRs who cannot get open so that someone can throw them the ball.

We went through this dipshit. Do you realistically think Poles can turnover 35-40 players in one year? Unfortunately they have a lot of other positions to worry about as well.

If they thought he was actually “good” he would have gotten a multi-year deal. They gave him 1.25 million. Braxton Berrios is the Jet’s 4th or 5th receiver and makes 6 million. They gave St. Brown the (1 year deal) because SOMEONE has to play backup WR.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 04:42:31 PM
Now he can blame ESB when Fields can’t throw again next year 😁

Hopefully he’ll be playing 17 snaps a game instead of 48.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 04:46:03 PM
We went through this dipshit. Do you realistically think Poles can turnover 35-40 players in one year? Unfortunately they have a lot of other positions to worry about as well.

If they thought he was actually “good” he would have gotten a multi-year deal. They gave him 1.25 million. Braxton Berrios is the Jet’s 4th or 5th receiver and makes 6 million. They gave St. Brown the (1 year deal) because SOMEONE has to play backup WR.

Yes, we did go through this because I told you he could not turnover the roster that much so they are going to suck next year too.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 04:56:15 PM
Yes, we did go through this because I told you he could not turnover the roster that much so they are going to suck next year too.

Then why the pathetic “gotcha” attempt?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 05:05:45 PM
Then why the pathetic “gotcha” attempt?

Hahahaha, you are the one who says the WRs suck so much. Can't be that hard to find WRs as bad as these guys supposedly are and pay them less than the 1.2m ESB is getting, could it?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 05:33:34 PM
JFC, you are so dense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 06:53:56 PM
To answer your question, no. I don’t think they could “do better” than to get a semi-competent veteran WR who at least does some things well (like block, make an occasional play,  and I think he also plays special teams) for 500k over league minimum on a one year deal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 07:12:24 PM
JFC, you are so dense.

All we have heard is how the WRs and the O line stinks. All we hear is that they drop all the catchable balls throw to them. Why pay this scrub $1.2m? They should be able to find guys playing in Lincoln Park with better hands and route running skills than these guys given how bad they have been alleged to be.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 07:13:35 PM
To answer your question, no. I don’t think they could “do better” than to get a semi-competent veteran WR who at least does some things well (like block, make an occasional play,  and I think he also plays special teams) for 500k over league minimum on a one year deal.

Now we seem to be backtracking on the WRs....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 07:14:19 PM
It is going to be hilarious if they bring back Pringle.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 07:31:34 PM
All we have heard is how the WRs and the O line stinks. All we hear is that they drop all the catchable balls throw to them. Why pay this scrub $1.2m? They should be able to find guys playing in Lincoln Park with better hands and route running skills than these guys given how bad they have been alleged to be.

Well it’s literally not realistic to replace every single one of them in one year. I can’t believe we’re having this “discussion.” On a team that literally needs 40 new players, getting a veteran who at least does some things reasonably well for barely above league minimum on a one year deal makes sense. I don’t think Poles is expecting to play 50 snaps a game next year. Someone has to be the 4th or 5th receiver on the roster.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 07:53:38 PM
Well it’s literally not realistic to replace every single one of them in one year. I can’t believe we’re having this “discussion.” On a team that literally needs 40 new players, getting a veteran who at least does some things reasonably well for barely above league minimum on a one year deal makes sense. I don’t think Poles is expecting to play 50 snaps a game next year. Someone has to be the 4th or 5th receiver on the roster.

They already have him. According to many, as you tell us, they all suck, they cannot get separation, they cannot catch, and they are impeding Fields' development. Why not grab someone cheaper, use the extra cash for linemen, and find out if the cheaper guy can block AND get open?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 08:43:24 PM
Yea, I’m sure there are a ton of guys better who can be had on a one year deal for the league minimum. You are seriously stupid as fuck, and argue with the logic of a 7th grader. This team literally needs to replace 40 guys and you’re bitching about a near league minimum one year deal on a guy who figures to be probably around the 5th WR.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:04:25 PM
Yea, I’m sure there are a ton of guys better who can be had on a one year deal for the league minimum. You are seriously stupid as fuck, and argue with the logic of a 7th grader. This team literally needs to replace 40 guys and you’re bitching about a near league minimum one year deal on a guy who figures to be probably around the 5th WR.

You are the guy who whines and moans how bad the WRs are and how they are impeding The Wingback. If these guys suck as much as you claim, they should be gone even for guys they pull off the street. Yet, Poles wants to keep this guy. Maybe Poles is telling you that the trash receivers are not as much to blame for things as you think?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 09:25:42 PM
You are so incredibly fucking dumb.

What fucking player is he going to bring in that’s better for 1 million dollars? He’s literally going to be the WR4 at best (assuming health). Poles literally has 15 STARTING positions he needs to fill ASAP.

St. Brown knows the system. Maybe Getsy loves him (as he also had in in GB)? Coaches get attached to mediocre players all the time. This roster needs to replace 15 starters and you are bitching about a barely above league minimum to an end of roster WR. Just because they resigned him to a 1 year barely above minimum one year deal doesn’t mean they thinks he’s “good.” He’s mediocre. Some other JAG you bring in for 900k isn’t going to be better. He’s literally an end of the roster player. What are you not getting though that pea brain of yours? AGAIN, Poles has a TON of STARTING positions to fill….
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:29:29 PM
Your backpedaling on the quality of ESB before the season ends is entertaining.....HILARIOUS.

What a stooge.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 09:33:08 PM
Your backpedaling on the quality of ESB before the season ends is entertaining.....HILARIOUS.

What a stooge.

You are ridiculous. This is easily the dumbest argument I’ve ever engaged in. You’re not going to find someone “better” than EQ St. Brown for a million bucks on a one year deal. Poles has much bigger fish to fry than trying to dig for gold on a WR5. St. Brown knows the system. Has at times shown some chemistry with Fields. That doesn’t mean he’s “good” or that the coaches even think he’s “good.” He’s definitely not a difference maker, and you’re not getting one for 900k. He’s a JAG. Every team has JAGs. Jake Kumerow has played snaps for the Bills this year. The Bills must think he’s awesome!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 09:35:25 PM
If they literally didn’t need 38 more players, maybe they could try someone else. They’ve clearly decided to save some money for other areas and keep the guy they know and feel is at least worthy of a roster spot. Again. Lots of mediocre players have roster spots. Stop being a moron.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:36:14 PM
You are ridiculous. This is easily the dumbest argument I’ve ever engaged in. You’re not going to find someone “better” than EQ St. Brown for a million bucks on a one year deal. Poles has much bigger fish to fry than trying to dig for gold on a WR5. St. Brown knows the system. Has at times shown some chemistry with Fields. That doesn’t mean he’s “good” or that the coaches even iou he’s “good.” He’s definitely not a difference maker, and you’re not getting one for 900k. He’s a JAG. Every team has JAGs. Jake Kumerow has played snaps for the Bills this year. The Bills must think he’s awesome!

You are a clown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 09:39:54 PM
Ihmir Smith-Marsette now plays for the Chiefs. OMG he’s fucking awesome now!

You are so fucking stupid. I can’t believe you think you’re winning this “debate.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:41:02 PM
Ihmir Smith-Marsette now plays for the Chiefs. OMG he’s fucking awesome now!

You are so fucking stupid. I can’t believe you think you’re winning this “debate.”

C.L.O.W.N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 09:42:42 PM
Idiot. You have no common sense when it comes to this shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 09:50:37 PM
Idiot. You have no common sense when it comes to this shit.

You have done nothing but shit on the receivers all season because the Wingback can't pass. Now one of the receivers who before was one of the "nothing around him" guys who  ould not get separation, get open, or catch a ball that hits his hands, is actually "mediocre" and "a guy."

This is laughable, Clown34 is your new name.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:17:02 PM
You have done nothing but shit on the receivers all season because the Wingback can't pass. Now one of the receivers who before was one of the "nothing around him" guys who  ould not get separation, get open, or catch a ball that hits his hands, is actually "mediocre" and "a guy."

This is laughable, Clown34 is your new name.

If WR5 was in the top 20 Bear needs, I’d maybe be bothered by it. He’s being paid to be a JAG and every team has them.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:19:04 PM
You have done nothing but shit on the receivers all season because the Wingback can't pass. Now one of the receivers who before was one of the "nothing around him" guys who  ould not get separation, get open, or catch a ball that hits his hands, is actually "mediocre" and "a guy."

This is laughable, Clown34 is your new name.

You were never this stupid. Did you get hit in the head recently? I don’t expect the WR5 to be a difference maker on the team. He’s not good. That doesn’t mean he can’t have a spot toward the end of the roster. The Bears have much bigger needs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:21:00 PM
Yes. He’s mediocre meaning “not of good quality.” Does it make sense to you that “mediocre” receivers shouldn’t be playing 50+ snaps?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:21:54 PM
Love the Clown34 backpeddling.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:22:46 PM
And again, receiving isn’t the only thing a receiver does. I’ve heard a couple of Bears beat reporters mention that they love his blocking. Sometimes receivers are called on to do that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:23:14 PM
And again, receiving isn’t the only thing a receiver does. I’ve heard a couple of Bears beat reporters mention that they love his blocking. Sometimes receivers are called on to do that.

Keep backpedaling, Clown
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:25:36 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8tK7nFm/7-F34-BEED-0758-46-F4-A392-B16-A8-E8-C1-C80.png) (https://postimg.cc/0zyBK5N4)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:27:45 PM
Keep backpedaling, Clown

They need at least 7 other starters on each side of the ball. That’s 14. They aren’t going to find someone better for the league minimum.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:37:49 PM
Now we know the Genesis of your backpedaling.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:38:45 PM
You never once mentioned his blocking when you were whining that The Wingback has no one to work with.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:49:17 PM
You never once mentioned his blocking when you were whining that The Wingback has no one to work with.

Because the conversations (in your eyes) were always about the passing numbers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:49:56 PM
Now we know the Genesis of your backpedaling.

?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:51:47 PM
Now we know the Genesis of your backpedaling.

I looked that up 15 minutes ago. I said they liked his blocking 3 hours ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:52:31 PM
Because the conversations (in your eyes) were always about the passing numbers.

NoTHiNg to WoRK WitH!

GMAFB. Pure Clown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:54:47 PM
NoTHiNg to WoRK WitH!

GMAFB. Pure Clown.

JAG (him and you). But different kinds. Fucking hilarious that signing a guy to a one year deal for a million dollars, a little above league minimum means he’s a “good player” or anything resembling a difference maker: You can’t possibly be this dumb.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:55:19 PM
I looked that up 15 minutes ago. I said they liked his blocking 3 hours ago.
No receivers to work with. Can't get separation. Can't catch the ball when hit in the hands. You made it sound like these guys would be lucky to be in the USFL.

C. L. O. W. N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:55:47 PM
Especially considering they literally need 14 new starters ASAP.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:56:01 PM
JAG (him and you). But different kinds. Fucking hilarious that signing a guy to a one year deal for a million dollars, a little above league minimum means he’s a “good player” or anything resembling a difference maker: You can’t possibly be this dumb.

He CaN bLoCK!!!!!

Laughable. Like a clown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 10:56:29 PM
Especially considering they literally need 14 new starters ASAP.

Backpedling clown
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 10:57:53 PM
No receivers to work with. Can't get separation. Can't catch the ball when hit in the hands. You made it sound like these guys would be lucky to be in the USFL.

C. L. O. W. N.

You love to exaggerate. He’s not a difference making player. He’s just good enough (barely) to be on an active roster. Jake Kumerow plays for the Bills and Smith-Marsette plays for the Chiefs. They are not “good.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:00:34 PM
Now if Poles re-signed him with the intent of him playing 45-50 snaps a game, I would have a problem with that. I’m comfortable in assuming that’s not what he has in mind.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 11:02:53 PM
You love to exaggerate. He’s not a difference making player. He’s just good enough (barely) to be on an active roster. Jake Kumerow plays for the Bills and Smith-Marsette plays for the Chiefs. They are not “good.”

No exaggeration here.That is what you have said all year about the receivers. Now he can block! You can't make this stuff up. Seriously, you are officially a clown. Hilarious. He couldn't get open or catch all year, but it is ok to re-sign him because he can block! LOL.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 11:04:23 PM
Now if Poles re-signed him with the intent of him playing 45-50 snaps a game, I would have a problem with that. I’m comfortable in assuming that’s not what he has in mind.

You have proven today you know as much about the Bears receivers as you do working the Uber app. ClOwN!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:05:18 PM
How does him being a good run blocker help Justin Fields in the passing game? Curious minds would like to know.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:05:49 PM
You have proven today you know as much about the Bears receivers as you do working the Uber app. ClOwN!

Goodnight, jackoff.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 11:06:06 PM
How does him being a good run blocker help Justin Fields in the passing game? Curious minds would like to know.

Clown
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 11:07:08 PM
Goodnight, jackoff.

Bye bye, CLOWN!!!!

Hilarious. HE CAN BLOCK THOUGH!!!!! LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:08:03 PM
No exaggeration here.That is what you have said all year about the receivers. Now he can block! You can't make this stuff up. Seriously, you are officially a clown. Hilarious. He couldn't get open or catch all year, but it is ok to re-sign him because he can block! LOL.

It’s ok to re-sign him because he’s probably your WR5 (and dirt cheap w/one year deal) and you literally need 14 starters.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 04, 2023, 11:11:07 PM
It’s ok to re-sign him because he’s probably your WR5 (and dirt cheap w/one year deal) and you literally need 14 starters.

He CaN BlOcK bUt Can'T do AnYtHING ElSe as a ReCEiVeR! REsIgN hIm NoW!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:33:41 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/0j62JmXp/7593-FC64-D480-47-F2-8587-9-DAE2-EA27-CA0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRpdCtpv)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 04, 2023, 11:33:45 PM
So we have a WR who blocks and a QB who runs. Seems the Bears have their position requirements mixed up. We need a QB to can throw and a WR to catch.

In all honesty though I’m ok with the signing. Cheap and fills a roster spot. We’ll get and have one or two more WR’s this off-season ahead of him I’m sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:36:58 PM
He CaN BlOcK bUt Can'T do AnYtHING ElSe as a ReCEiVeR! REsIgN hIm NoW!

And chances are anyone else you sign on a one million dollar/one year deal won’t be a  particularly good receiver either. Certainly not a difference maker. Your logic is so piss poor I can’t believe I’m having this conversation.

Again, what do you not understand about needing 14 STARTERS and end of the roster WRs?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:37:54 PM
So we have a WR who blocks and a QB who runs. Seems the Bears have their position requirements mixed up. We need a QB to can throw and a WR to catch.

In all honesty though I’m ok with the signing. Cheap and fills a roster spot. We’ll get and have one or two more WR’s this off-season ahead of him I’m sure.

See PAMan, it can be done (logic).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:45:30 PM
He CaN BlOcK bUt Can'T do AnYtHING ElSe as a ReCEiVeR! REsIgN hIm NoW!

Who would you sign on a one year deal for less? AJ Brown? Tyreek Hill?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 04, 2023, 11:54:43 PM
He CaN BlOcK bUt Can'T do AnYtHING ElSe as a ReCEiVeR! REsIgN hIm NoW!

Lastly, how many end of the roster WRs are out there making a big difference for their team? Pretty sure that number is about 0. As JudgeJudy said, they are likely to add at least one or two more WRs. My guess would be one via trade/FA and one via draft.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:04:38 AM
Holy shit this is funny. Pulls no punches.

(https://i.postimg.cc/43hw4Ngn/21670754-ADAC-43-CF-8317-5-EACD14-C837-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xknLtQqS)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:10:14 AM
Also, just because he was re-signed doesn’t mean he won’t be cut after training camp. It’s completely within the range of outcomes for a guy on a 1.25 million dollar deal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:20:01 AM
He makes a good point.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7h0PVz00/110-D2820-9-C0-E-4-BA8-8-AD0-A06-A2-C97-EDF1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xNjSjcs1)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 05:39:33 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Nf6tZwFc/78-C97-CA6-88-EA-42-C3-88-B0-BBF30-E5-B7-FA2.png) (https://postimg.cc/1f3bN2DC)

I’d imagine EQs contract looks very similar. And it’s fine. You know why? He’s not expected to be a major difference maker for the Bears, particularly in the passing game. It would be dumb to just “cut everyone” because they aren’t particularly good. Every team has JAGs, as I said Ihmir Smith-Marsette is now a Chief.

Again, the Bears have a plethora of needs at STARTING positions. To be spiking the ball on a (largely blocking) WR (who also plays special teams) offered a near minimum contract on a one year deal (no guarantee he even makes the team) is just well, odd…

nO ONe tO woRk wITh lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 05:43:26 AM
This guy is an Eagle. They are expecting BIG THINGS from him. When he’s not proselytizing for the Lord.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8PRHvZK4/216145-DF-6-E58-493-D-9340-BCED4521-D000.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7BL8QdR)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 05:49:35 AM
This guy is a Cowboy. All 153 pounds of him. He is expected to be a MAJOR contributor because he is on a 3 year deal. Last year he played in the FCF (fan controlled football league). He played for the Glacier Boyz.

(https://i.postimg.cc/JnTwR1Jy/FE1-F9381-6-D84-49-AB-A323-FD329-C962-F5-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wys4VYwH)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 06:00:38 AM
This game breaker is currently catching passes from Joe Burrow.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1XfdP2ps/62-E5-E137-6077-4-BE0-819-D-BBB6-D472-BB68.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSfg96CB)online photo hosting (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 06:04:51 AM
Michael Bandy of the Chargers. Currently striking fear into defensive backfields everywhere.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pd0T65C4/FF8-F04-C5-72-C7-4980-ABE1-2-F2-D61-DA7259.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKMxKzdD)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 06:08:48 AM
The always dangerous Danny Gray. Currently an indispensable piece for Super Bowl contending 49ers. 4 year 5 million dollar contract. His signing bonus was almost as big as St. Browns contract. Huge things expected…

(https://i.postimg.cc/8CL4dDb7/88-A17-D19-066-F-4355-B9-DB-14-EC30213-AB4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cK4fZp2W)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 05, 2023, 06:55:08 AM
Fields has 600 fewer yards passing, in 1 more game, than the will be replaced in a heartbeat Davis Mills.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 07:37:58 AM
Fields has 600 fewer yards passing, in 1 more game, than the will be replaced in a heartbeat Davis Mills.

On 123 more attempts. He also has 3 less touchdown passes than Fields. He also has better players around him and a legitimate #1 WR.

I’d be curious to see their advanced metrics. I’d bet it’s not close. But hey, we only measure the success of a quarterback by raw passing yards around here!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 07:41:52 AM
So, in other words. 123 more attempts is almost 5 games worth of passing attempts for Fields. And AGAIN, he doesn’t call the plays. “But the only reason they don’t throw the ball is Justin Fields can’t pass!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 07:46:53 AM
The Texans’ OLine has given up 20 less sacks on 189 more passes. “But the only reason Fields gets sacked is he holds the ball too long!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 05, 2023, 07:51:04 AM
On 123 more attempts. He also has 3 less touchdown passes than Fields. He also has better players around him and a legitimate #1 WR.

I’d be curious to see their advanced metrics. I’d bet it’s not close. But hey, we only measure the success of a quarterback by raw passing yards around here!
And the success of the Bear organization's plan is getting the #1 pick in the draft.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 07:53:22 AM
And the success of the Bear organization's plan is getting the #1 pick in the draft.

You’re gonna have to explain what you mean by this to me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 07:54:25 AM
Are you saying “The Bears stink?” Because yeah, I’m pretty sure Poles and Eberflus knew that going in.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 07:57:00 AM
I see Clown34 has been busy backpedaling by bringing up guys on other teams. What a joke. FIeldS hAs NoTHiNg tO WoRk WiTH BuT tHIs GuY cAN blOCk! C.L.O.W.N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 07:58:15 AM
You’re gonna have to explain what you mean by this to me.

Of course, because you are a clown.

FIeldS hAs NoTHiNg tO WoRk WiTH BuT tHIs GuY cAN blOCk! C.L.O.W.N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 05, 2023, 08:23:49 AM
You’re gonna have to explain what you mean by this to me.
You have to go back over 50 years to find a worse record. Nobody's plan should ever be the worst record in over 50 years, and doing it with a budding super star.
But hey, we've got a chance for the #1 pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:36:13 AM
You have to go back over 50 years to find a worse record. Nobody's plan should ever be the worst record in over 50 years, and doing it with a budding super star.
But hey, we've got a chance for the #1 pick.

You clearly have no idea how a salary cap works.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:38:11 AM
Of course, because you are a clown.

FIeldS hAs NoTHiNg tO WoRk WiTH BuT tHIs GuY cAN blOCk! C.L.O.W.N.

Gotta hand it to the PAMan. He’s taken a savage beating over most of this thread, especially the last few pages; and he is still out there taking victory laps. His level of lack of self-awareness must be zen like.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:43:08 AM
Of course, because you are a clown.

FIeldS hAs NoTHiNg tO WoRk WiTH BuT tHIs GuY cAN blOCk! C.L.O.W.N.

I wasn’t going to respond to this, but it was so nonsensical you got me to respond twice.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 05, 2023, 08:45:14 AM
You clearly have no idea how a salary cap works.
Da Bears: the worst record in over 50 years with a budding super star iS NoT OUR fAuLT. IT's THe sALaRy CAP.
#1 draft pick, baby. Yee ha !!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:49:02 AM
Da Bears: the worst record in over 50 years with a budding super star iS NoT OUR fAuLT. IT's THe sALaRy CAP.
#1 draft pick, baby. Yee ha !!

Yep. No clue how a modern NFL franchise is run. I’ll bet you thought Ryan Pace should have gotten a 10 year extension (and then he could continue to mortgage the future so he could cling to relevancy).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:49:48 AM
Don’t know about you guys, but I miss the days of trading away assets to move up for a bad player.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:51:04 AM
Yeah if you’re going 8-8 every year and stuck in mediocrity, it’s much better to tank and take a shot at acquiring assets and trying to build it back up instead of staying in purgatory. I can’t really see how this can be up for debate or argument.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:52:28 AM
Yeah if you’re going 8-8 every year and stuck in mediocrity, it’s much better to tank and take a shot at acquiring assets and trying to build it back up instead of staying in purgatory. I can’t really see how this can be up for debate or argument.

Particularly when your best players are old, overpaid, or at a less than premium position.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:54:51 AM
Yeah have to say I agree with that part.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 05, 2023, 08:56:27 AM
Yep. No clue how a modern NFL franchise is run. I’ll bet you thought Ryan Pace should have gotten a 10 year extension (and then he could continue to mortgage the future so he could cling to relevancy).
They did set a franchise record, and adding to it on Sunday. Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:56:36 AM
Once Mack and Quinn were traded, I’ll bet the best most highly paid players were Roquan and the left guard.

Poles inherited: little draft capital, bad contracts, dead money, and no talent outside of Roquan, Jaylon, and Fields. And some people expected things to go well? It was a miracle they were competitive in the majority of their games.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:58:30 AM
They did set a franchise record, and adding to it on Sunday. Lol.

Lol (there’s reasons for that) Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 09:01:02 AM
Tanking is absolutely the right move and the best way to build a contender. Now whether or not Poles (or any GM for that matter) gets the right players to do that is another question and potential problem down the road.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 09:02:31 AM
Jimmy Graham and Tarik Cohen count for 7 million in this years’ cap for Chrissakes. You guys complaining about win/loss record and one million dollar/one year contracts are utterly clueless.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 09:06:11 AM
Nick Foles counts for 8.5 million. Andy Dalton 5.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 09:09:10 AM
Tanking is absolutely the right move and the best way to build a contender. Now whether or not Poles (or any GM for that matter) gets the right players to do that is another question and potential problem down the road.

Agreed. But it was the only sensible way out of the shitstorm Pace left behind. We will find out if Poles is a good GM or not. We don’t know yet; and can’t know yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 09:14:11 AM
Agreed. But it was the only sensible way out of the shitstorm Pace left behind. We will find out if Poles is a good GM or not. We don’t know yet; and can’t know yet.

Agreed. A high draft pick is the only asset you can get to work with. Albeit trading it for more assets or drafting a good player. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 09:20:59 AM
Gotta hand it to the PAMan. He’s taken a savage beating over most of this thread, especially the last few pages; and he is still out there taking victory laps. His level of lack of self-awareness must be zen like.

What a CLOWN. Have to hand it to you, you have the Republican "projection" handbook down COLD. Keep clowning, Clown34. He can block! Hilarious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 09:22:41 AM
Yep. No clue how a modern NFL franchise is run. I’ll bet you thought Ryan Pace should have gotten a 10 year extension (and then he could continue to mortgage the future so he could cling to relevancy).

And you do? Hilarious. HE CAN BLOCK!!!!!!°
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 09:24:03 AM
You clearly have no idea how a salary cap works.

Major League Clown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 09:24:51 AM
Jimmy Graham and Tarik Cohen count for 7 million in this years’ cap for Chrissakes. You guys complaining about win/loss record and one million dollar/one year contracts are utterly clueless.

Hall of Fame Clown
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 09:26:31 AM
Mn, you are just too dumb to understand why it is a good move to sign a receiver who, the Clown has alleged, can't get separation, can't get open, and can't catch balls that hit his hands, but he can block!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 10:49:07 AM
Mn, you are just too dumb to understand why it is a good move to sign a receiver who, the Clown has alleged, can't get separation, can't get open, and can't catch balls that hit his hands, but he can block!

”Cant?” I said he “makes an occasional play.” You are getting deranged over this. You’re seriously losing your mind over a one year one million dollar contract over an end of the roster type player. Who could possibly not even make the team next year. Lol

Again, and it’s based on the fact that you can’t get it through you pea brain that they need at least a dozen new STARTERS ASAP.

Is St. Brown “good?” No. Is he fine as an end of the roster guy? Sure. Just as is Michael Bandy, Britain Covey, Danny Gray, Ihmir Smith-Marsette, Jake Kumerow, Trenton Irwin.

C.L.O.W.N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 10:54:59 AM
In PAMan’s world of absolutism based on little to no evidence, he extrapolates that I said “CAN’T get open, can’t get separation, can’t catch” based on the factual evidence that he dropped a perfect pass on 4th down late in a game. This is “PAMan logic.”

EQ St. Brown is a mediocre end of the roster player (but someone “worthy” of a roster spot). Apparently PAMan thinks that means he’s up to handling 50 snaps a game. I’ve never made that case. And it’s stupid “PAMan logic” to think just because he’s not a particularly “good” wideout you can go find a better one for the league minimum on a one year deal.

C.L.O.W.N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 10:57:07 AM
”Cant?” I said he “makes an occasional play.” You are getting deranged over this. You’re seriously losing your mind over a one year one million dollar contract over an end of the roster type player. Who could possibly not even make the team next year. Lol

Again, and it’s based on the fact that you can’t get it through you pea brain that they need at least a dozen new STARTERS ASAP.

Is St. Brown “good?” No. Is he fine as an end of the roster guy? Sure. Just as is Michael Bandy, Britain Covey, Danny Gray, Ihmir Smith-Marsette, Jake Kumerow, Trenton Irwin.

C.L.O.W.N.

Like how you sign your posts now. The Wingback can't pass because he has nothing to work with but are re-signing receivers who can at least block! Excellent!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 10:57:16 AM
And you do? Hilarious. HE CAN BLOCK!!!!!!°

More than you and Mn for sure.

C.L.O.W.N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 10:58:45 AM
Like how you sign your posts now. The Wingback can't pass because he has nothing to work with but are re-signing receivers who can at least block! Excellent!

Get it through your head that they need a shit ton of starters, and stop worrying about a guy who will probably barely make the team as a backup WR on a very cheap one year deal.

This isn’t difficult logic.

C.L.O.WN.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 11:03:24 AM
Let’s not acknowledge the fact that Fields was forced into action after being inadequately prepared as a starter in a massively failing regime that was swiftly kicked to the curb after drafting him. Then in year 2 was given nothing to work with in the only tank I can remember comparable to the Dolphins of a few years ago.

Clown34's own words. But now ESB can block!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 11:06:09 AM
Great job by Poles re-signing a guy that completely sucks as a receiver, according to CLOWN 34.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:09:14 AM
Clown34's own words. But now ESB can block!

I’ll ask again. How specifically does that help Justin Fields in the passing game? I’ll wait for your answer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:09:45 AM
Seems to me they should move him to LT…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 11:13:47 AM
I’ll ask again. How specifically does that help Justin Fields in the passing game? I’ll wait for your answer.

If the guy is as awful as you allege he is ("nothing to work with"), which is doubtful because you are a clown, you get rid of him and take a chance on someone else. What a complete clown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:14:08 AM
Great job by Poles re-signing a guy that completely sucks as a receiver, according to CLOWN 34.

“Completely sucks” as a front end receiver. He’s “ok enough” as a bottom two guy, which his contract implies he will be. You seriously are dumber than shit when it comes to football.

And you keep neglecting to understand they have a plethora of needs at at least a dozen STARTING positions. Only a fool thinks you’re getting a “good player” for one million on a one year deal. But then you expected this team to “win games,” so clearly you’re not very bright.

C.L.O.W.N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 11:17:17 AM
“Completely sucks” as a front end receiver. He’s “ok enough” as a bottom two guy, which his contract implies he will be. You seriously are dumber than shit when it comes to football.

And you keep neglecting to understand they have a plethora of needs at at least a dozen positions. Only a fool thinks you’re getting a “good player” for one million on a one year deal. But then you expected this team to “win games,” so clearly you’re not very bright.

C.L.O.W.N.

Nothing to work with. Your words, Clown34.

Yet, he is good enough to be on the team despite being terrible! The backpedling continues. What a genius.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:22:51 AM
If the guy is as awful as you allege he is ("nothing to work with"), which is doubtful because you are a clown, you get rid of him and take a chance on someone else. What a complete clown.

I think I’ve said this before, but you remind me of “Rosie” from point break. A simpleton incapable of balancing different ideas and concepts. “You just set him in motion and he goes.”

I have thoroughly clowned you the past 7 pages and you think you’re winning this conversation by laps. Is St. Brown “good?” No. He should never be logging 45-55 snaps per game. But here we are. Is he as good as Michael Bandy, Danny Gray, Britain Covey, Jake Kumerow, Ihmir Smith-Marsette, Trenton Irwin?” All fringe talents on Super Bowl contending teams? Yes. And he’s cheap as fuck.

It’s amazing how Allen, Tua, and Hurts all became better passers when they were given elite receivers. Before that, they had mostly JAGs.

C.L.O.W.N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:25:52 AM
Nothing to work with. Your words, Clown34.

Yet, he is good enough to be on the team despite being terrible! The backpedling continues. What a genius.

You mean to tell me Justin Fields couldn’t put up 300/3 a game with piss poor blocking and end of the roster/practice squad caliber receivers? Trade him! Cut him!

And go get me a difference making wide receiver! But make sure he’s less than a million on a one year deal!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:27:37 AM
Nothing to work with. Your words, Clown34.

Yet, he is good enough to be on the team despite being terrible! The backpedling continues. What a genius.

Again, dimwit. All of those other JAGs I mentioned are on SB contending teams. Doesn’t mean they’re good enough to log 50 snaps a game for the majority of a season.

C.L.O.W.N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 11:30:23 AM
I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many Point Break references anywhere in the world since 1991. This place truly is special.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:32:27 AM
I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many Point Break references anywhere in the world since 1991. This place truly is special.

It’s the one beautiful thing going on here today. I guess I should include the official meltdown of ThePAMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:35:34 AM
Rosie “has a gift to blankness,” like our own ThePAMan.

https://youtu.be/mefgfLDn95w
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 11:44:12 AM
Again, dimwit. All of those other JAGs I mentioned are on SB contending teams. Doesn’t mean they’re good enough to log 50 snaps a game for the majority of a season.

C.L.O.W.N.

ESB is now "just a guy" instead of being "nothing to work with" as he has been all season. The backpedaling continues unabated. Hilarious. Serious, I am laughing out loud at you and your "analysis." Keep going.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 11:46:27 AM
It’s the one beautiful thing going on here today. I guess I should include the official meltdown of ThePAMan.

Yeah, I am the one melting down as I backpedal from my "the receivers are nothing to work with" pontifications. As I said, you have the Republican projection playbook down cold. Congratulations.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 11:49:56 AM
I am sure Custard, and others, will be happy that given the obvious serious cognitive difficulties Tempo has, I am done.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 05, 2023, 11:56:01 AM
JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:08:17 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/3NBBjrjK/5-BD5-DF01-6975-4500-9-CAF-CAD408-B1-F84-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2L1hrDXJ)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:12:01 PM
ESB is now "just a guy" instead of being "nothing to work with" as he has been all season. The backpedaling continues unabated. Hilarious. Serious, I am laughing out loud at you and your "analysis." Keep going.

So you think a JAG is “something to work with?” I’ve literally been saying all year these are back end of the roster and practice squad caliber players. That’s pretty much the definition of a “JAG.” So you think a 2nd year quarterback is supposed to go out there and elevate an entire receiving corps of JAGs and all the while wirh horrific protection. You are a totally reasonable guy.

A guy who’s memory is so short he can’t remember when Tua, Hurts, and Josh Allen were criticized for not being good passers. Which was like last year for two of them, and the year before for one of them.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:13:39 PM
Done talking about this with TheDOLTMan. Not wasting my time on his idiocy any longer.

Every team has JAGs, doesn’t mean the Bills want 3 Jake Kumerows playing 40+ snaps every game for a whole year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:14:59 PM
If the guy is as awful as you allege he is ("nothing to work with"), which is doubtful because you are a clown, you get rid of him and take a chance on someone else. What a complete clown.

He’s not good enough to play 45-50 snaps a game. Especially with 2-3 other JAGs also doing the same.

Zero fucking sense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 12:18:13 PM
Tempo on Block. I am not going to bother conversing with someone who makes one argument, then does a 180 and acts like he never made the original argument.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:31:59 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:33:38 PM
Only PAMan would think a bunch of WR 5s and 6s are “something to work with.”

Low thinker
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:39:55 PM
I DEMAND the Bears go out and find a difference making WR for a million bucks a year. Also while filling a ton of STARTING positions with good players. Because…I am PerfectlyReasonableMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 12:42:15 PM
I am sure that Tempo is saying that ESB should be on the team despite all season saying that he was "nothing to work with."  Or, that I said something that I never said. One or the other.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
I expect them to add probably two WRs. One though FA/trade and probably one though draft. Expecting wholesale changes at 35-40 positions just isn’t realistic. Apparently PAMan thinks changing over an entire roster in one year is realistic. Again, there’s no guarantee St. Brown even makes the team. If Velus Jones Jr were to discover himself in any way, EQ could be the odd man out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 12:50:32 PM
I am sure that Tempo is saying that ESB should be on the team despite all season saying that he was "nothing to work with."  Or, that I said something that I never said. One or the other.

All season I called them back end of the roster players. And that’s what he was signed to be. You think the Bengals want 3 Trenton Irwins logging major snaps all year?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 01:08:15 PM
Let me guess what Tempo's posts are: "You dimwit! Despite me thinking ESB (as well as the other Bear WRs) is unable to actually play WR, as none of them can get separation or catch the ball, he is only going to be a 5 - 6 if he makes the team! There is no need to take a chance on a 5 - 6 at the minimum who may actually be able to get open and catch footballs unlike all the other WRs the Bears currently have! How dumb are you?"

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 02:09:46 PM
PAMan seems to think I’m in love with the move. It’s fine, I don’t care, Because unless Poles does nothing to address the WR position, this move isn’t that relevant. As a 5 or 6, he’s “ok enough” for one year. Especially considering they need additions at most starting positions. It’s hilarious that he thinks this move means they think he’s a difference making player.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 02:11:07 PM
But yeah, let’s bring in another JAG off the street who doesn’t know the system and expect him to catch 60 passes and 8 touchdowns.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 05, 2023, 02:36:15 PM
But yeah, let’s bring in another JAG off the street who doesn’t know the system and expect him to catch 60 passes and 8 touchdowns.
You're saying the Bears are going to take Stroud with the 1st or 2nd pick ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 02:58:15 PM
You're saying the Bears are going to take Stroud with the 1st or 2nd pick ?

Super weak bait.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 02:59:02 PM
I wonder what the Eagles and Hurts would look like if they had 3 Britain Coveys out there logging 40+ snaps every week. Even with that elite O line.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 05, 2023, 03:09:31 PM
Maybe the Bear should draft Stroud and have him throw the ball to the wing back in the flat.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 03:11:00 PM
Maybe the Bear should draft Stroud and have him throw the ball to the wing back in the flat.

Your contribution here is very notable. I look forward to your future insight. Please post here more often.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 03:12:21 PM
Maybe the Bear should draft Stroud and have him throw the ball to the wing back in the flat.

ESB would be able to block for him at least. Can't do anything else, allegedly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 05, 2023, 03:26:45 PM
Maybe the Bear should draft Stroud and have him throw the ball to the wing back in the flat.
Good thinkin. An instant upgrade on offense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 04:44:46 PM
Uh oh, this blows a whole hole in Tempo’s theory…

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/espn-metric-three-bears-pass-catchers-listed-top-receivers?mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lcjocxewlenbl2o9m8i
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 05:00:44 PM
Uh oh, this blows a whole hole in Tempo’s theory…

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/espn-metric-three-bears-pass-catchers-listed-top-receivers?mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lcjocxewlenbl2o9m8i

From the same article. Mooney and Claypool (at least with Pittsburgh) were serviceable. They are not Alphas. Allen was all of a sudden good when he got Diggs. Tua when he got Hill. Hurts when he got Brown. None of our guys are in their class. Claypool has struggled just to get on the field in Chicago. That’s not on Justin Fields. The coaches obviously feel he’s coming up short somewhere.

(https://i.postimg.cc/L5tXNdvZ/837-AA4-F6-27-C8-4342-9853-AC3-D1731-B3-F0.png) (https://postimg.cc/y3Ns8bMV)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 05:02:23 PM
Also, Mooney has been out for a month. I’ve conceded numerous times Justin has to get better as a passer. It’s been a collective failure. Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts are going to struggle if their best receiver is EQ St. Brown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 05:16:41 PM
Another couple ones, from 670 The Score of all places…

https://twitter.com/670thescore/status/1611025519969210372?s=46&t=l-k3ntPQl4VbH2pRNGZSYw

https://twitter.com/bradbiggs/status/1611038874234675201?s=46&t=l-k3ntPQl4VbH2pRNGZSYw

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 05:22:19 PM
I have conceded numerous times that Fields needs to improve as a passer. Numerous times.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 05:23:02 PM
And I think for the most part he did over the season. He wasn’t missing as many “layups” as he was the first month.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 05:24:22 PM
But again, still much improvement to make. People forget already that Hurts and Tua weren’t anything near accomplished passers as recently as last year. Allen struggled with consistency until year 3.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 05:30:15 PM
Hurts and Tua both went into this season on the proverbial “hot seat” as starters. How quickly that was forgotten.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 05, 2023, 06:30:25 PM
Judge Judy, doing yeoman's work here. But I do not see in those articles/The Tweets about how good of blockers those "nothing to work with" (direct quote) top 50 WRs and TE are.

I love the eye test line from The Score suck ups. Like The Wingback has passed the eye test so far as a passer when he has had those 3 guys and actually has had time to pass. I mean, derrrrrrr, The Wingback has "nothing to work with" (typed with baked brie and quiche dripping from the mouth)! And Fields wonders why Claypool is pissed on the sidelines. Fields is going to cost him $$$ unless he gets his act together.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 06:36:29 PM
I’m pretty sure Claypool was pissed because he only played 4 snaps in the first half. I’m sure that was Fields’ fault.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 06:37:38 PM
The guy who mentioned the eye test has nothing to do with The Score. As usual, PAMan talking out of his ass.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 06:40:14 PM
And of course, PAMan is reluctant to acknowledge the coaches have not played Claypool nearly as much as you would expect since getting here. Fields’ fault, I’m sure.

He also conveniently doesn’t remember all the way back to last year when Tua and Hurts weren’t thought of as good passers. And two years ago when Josh Allen was pretty highly erratic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:18:43 PM
Did a draft simulation on ESPN. I traded down twice. I’m building for the future as you can see…

(https://i.ibb.co/H4ZgtgV/2-DA39317-5-B15-49-DD-BD4-E-A5-A0-A1-BFFFA1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MSdNcNs)
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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:20:42 PM
Did a draft simulation on ESPN. I traded down twice. I’m building for the future as you can see…

(https://i.ibb.co/H4ZgtgV/2-DA39317-5-B15-49-DD-BD4-E-A5-A0-A1-BFFFA1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MSdNcNs)
2018 hyundai elantra 0 60 (https://statewideinventory.org/hyundai-0-60-times)

That’s badass! Looks fun!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:22:29 PM
Would take that trade in a heartbeat. I’ve heard Buckner could be made available. Would be exactly what we need at the 3tech and obviously played for Eberflus before.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:25:13 PM
Turning that 2nd pick into Buckner and 5 1st rounders seems a bit unrealistic though. Wonder what it would take to get Tee Higgins or Mike Evans. Think you could get Evans for that Ravens 2nd round pick. Not sure that’d be enough for Higgins.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:26:49 PM
Would take that trade in a heartbeat. I’ve heard Buckner could be made available. Would be exactly what we need at the 3tech and obviously played for Eberflus before.

Yeah you should check it out. I got us a starting DL, LT, and WR. Plus 3 potentially high future 1st round picks and a 2nd rounder. It only lets you do the first two rounds but that’s a pretty good haul for one draft. Not even counting the other 5 rounds, that’s a damn good draft!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:29:01 PM
Turning that 2nd pick into Buckner and 5 1st rounders seems a bit unrealistic though. Wonder what it would take to get Tee Higgins or Mike Evans. Think you could get Evans for that Ravens 2nd round pick. Not sure that’d be enough for Higgins.

The Panthers moving up two picks and giving us a first rounder next year only had a 5% chance to be accepted, but they did on the simulator due to needing a QB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:29:23 PM
Yeah you should check it out. I got us a starting DL, LT, and WR. Plus 3 potentially high future 1st round picks and a 2nd rounder. It only lets you do the first two rounds but that’s a pretty good haul for one draft. Not even counting the other 5 rounds, that’s a damn good draft!!

Would take in a millisecond. If they turn that pick into anything resembling 5 1sts and DeForest Buckner just name Poles GM of the Year that day.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:32:08 PM
Might be surprised to learn I’d actually like to go defense with the first pick (unless the best WR in the draft is available). Then you could talk me into that. Wouldn’t hate a OLineman, but read up on Parris Johnson and Skoronski and their profiles sounded more like mid 1sts to me anyway.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:32:38 PM
Man, I’d give my left testicle to be an NFL GM. Or just an advisor getting paid six figures. It’d be so much fun doing that for a living.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:33:33 PM
Man, would it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:34:32 PM
Might be surprised to learn I’d actually like to go defense with the first pick (unless the best WR in the draft is available). Then you could talk me into that. Wouldn’t hate a OLineman, but read up on Parris Johnson and Skoronski and their profiles sounded more like mid 1sts to me anyway.

Yeah Carter and Anderson were gone so had to go with OT. Being I got Buckner, made sense in this case.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:38:50 PM
Sounds like there’s some good value at DLine/edge in the 6-15 range.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:40:06 PM
Of course, if you can land Buckner somehow, you can pick whatever the hell you want with your first rounder. Anything would make sense. OL, WR, DL

Don’t think I’d complain unless it was a Ryan Pace style reach.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:43:20 PM
Plus set up the next two years with two 1st rounders.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:46:24 PM
Would be an amazing haul, but seems a little unrealistic to me. Here’s hoping. How does the website “approve” trades?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:47:49 PM
But if the Colts traded up for Stroud and the Panthers fell in love with Levis and he’s there, it could happen I guess. Dominoes would be falling perfectly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:49:37 PM
Would be an amazing haul, but seems a little unrealistic to me. Here’s hoping. How does the website “approve” trades?

The PFF fantasy simulator gives a percentage on if the trades will be approved or denied based on what you select to include. Mine had a 5% chance to work with the Panthers, but I took a chance and apparently they accepted it. Weird, but kinda cool.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:50:26 PM
I’d even offer a 2nd or 3rd rounder back to the Colts to tip that first trade in.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:50:37 PM
If you pick something crazy, it’ll flat out tell you that the trade won’t be accepted.

Like if we were offered a 6th round pick for Fields 😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:51:34 PM
I’m really hating the Claypool trade right now. Really really hating it. Was hopeful it would work out, but I never liked it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 08:52:53 PM
I’m really hating the Claypool trade right now. Really really hating it. Was hopeful it would work out, but I never liked it.

Might’ve been a bad 2nd rounder being ours instead of the later one, but I think we’ll see a transformed Claypool next year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 08:54:20 PM
I hope so. The talent is there. But there’s also a reason Pittsburgh unloaded him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 05, 2023, 09:30:02 PM
Here’s another one…

(https://i.ibb.co/tx3rb5W/36-D6913-B-68-A8-4-B49-879-F-80-C8-CC5-B0-B21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KLmv9H3)
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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 10:39:59 PM
Here’s another one…

(https://i.ibb.co/tx3rb5W/36-D6913-B-68-A8-4-B49-879-F-80-C8-CC5-B0-B21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KLmv9H3)
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Looks pretty good to me, too, but I’d be surprised if they draft two WRs let alone 2 in the first 2 rounds. I’d take this though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 10:43:33 PM
Would be over the moon about the 1st round. Would probably take a Olinemen in 2nd if it was me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:02:24 PM
All of the reasonableness in one tweet is going to make my head explode.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fyyxwDdy/7-EE6258-A-E06-C-4-D57-A150-BD79-FFE04-E8-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CnyZ7ymp)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 05, 2023, 11:58:11 PM
Not saying I agree with this, but thought it was pretty damn funny. Not sure I’d want McDaniel as Bears coach, but man I’d love to try it out in an alternate universe.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nLsJjcj7/A9006317-7-B18-4-F21-9-E88-A73156-BFD8-D1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nst5Nx1c)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 06, 2023, 07:20:46 AM
Hopefully any WRs you pick with your draft stimulator, Judge Judy, can get open, get separation, catch, and, most importantly, block.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 06, 2023, 08:13:13 AM
Aren't these Poles' WR pick-ups so far ?
Jones, Pringle, Harry, ESB, Claypool and Smith-Marsette.
Maybe Judge and Tempo should be making the picks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 08:37:11 AM
Who knew it would take a one year one million dollar contract on a guy who could conceivably be cut next year for PAMan to flip out completely.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 08:37:57 AM
“Draft stimulator,” sounds hot.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 06, 2023, 09:20:12 AM
Aren't these Poles' WR pick-ups so far ?
Jones, Pringle, Harry, ESB, Claypool and Smith-Marsette.
Maybe Judge and Tempo should be making the picks.

You mean 2 top 50 WR and 1 who can only block that were "nothing to work with"?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 09:27:12 AM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 06, 2023, 09:29:17 AM
You mean 2 top 50 WR and 1 who can only block that were "nothing to work with"?
They don't call the plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 09:35:55 AM
Claypool has played 126 snaps as a Bear in 5 games (7 if you count the games he’s missed). He played 125 in his last two games as a Steeler.

Mooney played about 11-12 games with the Bears this year. A couple games where the conditions made throwing the ball incredibly difficult. And admittedly a few games where Fields just didn’t throw well at all. That also doesn’t factor in the line can’t pass protect. Every QBs numbers suffer under poor protection. I don’t know why we’d expect a 2nd year QB to overcome that.

As I’ve said a hundred times, Fields needs to improve as a passer. And there are definitely times he’s held the ball too long, that is perfectly common in young quarterbacks. Anyone who thinks it’s not doesn’t know anything about the game. Fields is far from perfect as a passer, but until he gets better players around him, I am grading him on a curve. Again, no one though Tua and Hurts were actually good passers until this year. It’s amazing how people can’t remember all the way back to last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 09:39:00 AM
You mean 2 top 50 WR and 1 who can only block that were "nothing to work with"?

If Pittsburgh thought highly of him, why would they have traded him?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 09:53:28 AM
And also, regarding “holding onto the ball too long.” Fields isn’t your normal talent limited checkdown quarterback. He’s a “touchdown to checkdown” quarterback. He needs to learn to get rid of it quicker, but I’d rather have a high ceiling guy who can make the big splash plays and coach him up rather than a noodle armed Chad Pennington who can only dink and dunk the ball around the field.

Anyone who doesn’t understand all of this is a low football IQ individual. I’d much rather have a guy who can deliver the big play (with arm or legs) than a guy who’s just gonna dump it off the first chance he gets.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 09:55:51 AM
It took Brett Fave until his 4th year in the league to become a proficient passer. I don’t know why people can’t cut Justin Fields some slack after being badly mismanaged and playing with mostly bums his first two.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 10:08:51 AM
Seams to reason that if the Bears coaches liked what they were seeing from Claypool, he wouldn’t be losing 2-3 dozen snaps per game to EQ St. Brown, Byron Pringle, N’Keal Harry, and Dante Pettis.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 10:18:15 AM
And by all accounts, Fields is exhibiting excellent leadership, work ethic, and tough as nails. I don’t understand why some Bears fans seem to be rooting against him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 10:38:03 AM
And by all accounts, Fields is exhibiting excellent leadership, work ethic, and tough as nails. I don’t understand why some Bears fans seem to be rooting against him.

Hilariously, about 12 minutes later Dan Bernstein touched on this very subject. Would definitely encourage a listen (10:30). It’s almost as if he were talking to PAMan and Mn.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 06, 2023, 10:47:11 AM
And by all accounts, Fields is exhibiting excellent leadership, work ethic, and tough as nails. I don’t understand why some Bears fans seem to be rooting against him.

I don’t think anybody is rooting AGAINST him, they’ve just not seen enough passing skill to root FOR him. If that makes sense.

I agree this thread and everything related to Fields has gotten way out of hand by the fan base. I think almost any QB should get until the end of their rookie deal to see whether or not he’s your future. At least 3 of the 4 years. If at the end of next year he hasn’t made the progress, move on. UNLESS you have an elite QB you’re able to acquire that is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 10:48:47 AM
Earlier I said “every quarterback’s numbers suffer under poor pass protection.” There is one exception to that. I think it was Aaron Rodger’s 1st or 2nd season as starter. They couldn’t protect him at all, and he still balled out. I still think of that as the best season long performance (especially under the circumstances) I’ve ever seen a quarterback have.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 10:50:42 AM
I don’t think anybody is rooting AGAINST him, they’ve just not seen enough passing skill to root FOR him. If that makes sense.

I agree this thread and everything related to Fields has gotten way out of hand by the fan base. I think almost any QB should get until the end of their rookie deal to see whether or not he’s your future. At least 3 of the 4 years. If at the end of next year he hasn’t made the progress, move on. UNLESS you have an elite QB you’re able to acquire that is.

They sure talk like it. I can’t remember a single occasion where PAMan (or probably Mn) have actually praised him for something other than “being a good wing back.” There’s A LOT to love about this kid. I see some of this animosity on Twitter as well.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 10:55:08 AM
Fields getting very high praise from his coaches. Especially the QB coach. Wonder if Robert Saleh is saying these things about Zack Wilson…

https://www.shawlocal.com/bears/2023/01/05/he-wants-this-to-be-his-city-whats-next-for-chicago-bears-qb-justin-fields/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 10:57:51 AM
Fields is a good wing back though. So was Bobby Douglass.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fTYZYJQ9/74042-EB2-52-A8-4617-BF40-CF803-D92730-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WhpQvp3N)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 11:24:32 AM
Not positive, but I think MAYBE Mn once called him “tough.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 06, 2023, 12:21:48 PM
Tough as shit, I believe. And I've acknowledged his running ability. And I don't remember ever questioning his work ethic.
He hasn't shown to be an accurate passer and I've never subscribed to the qb assessment theory of 'well if he can just complete a long ball once in a while'.
I would much prefer consistency over a nice pass once in a while. There's nothing wrong with that school of thought.
Instead the argument since Sept has been that Fields is a star in the making, a budding super star. He may very well be some day. I hope he is and the Bears are winning games.
Instead I hear that he could look better but he doesn't call the plays, he could look better but he doesn't have any wrs, he could look better but the OL is atrocious.
I haven't heard much positive about the Poles picks since his arrival, other than the dbs. But boy, he'll nail this next draft and the Bears will compete for the NFC.

I'm sorry if I don't get excited about Fields, but he's got a ways to go yet. Will he and when will he get there ? Who knows.
The Bears set a franchise record for consecutive losses and they may very well see loss #10 on Sunday. But I'm not going to root for them to lose in hopes they can have a shot at the #1 pick.
And Tempo, I believe I've been watching the Bears longer than you've been alive.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 06, 2023, 12:27:58 PM
Tough as shit, I believe. And I've acknowledged his running ability. And I don't remember ever questioning his work ethic.
He hasn't shown to be an accurate passer and I've never subscribed to the qb assessment theory of 'well if he can just complete a long ball once in a while'.
I would much prefer consistency over a nice pass once in a while. There's nothing wrong with that school of thought.
Instead the argument since Sept has been that Fields is a star in the making, a budding super star. He may very well be some day. I hope he is and the Bears are winning games.
Instead I hear that he could look better but he doesn't call the plays, he could look better but he doesn't have any wrs, he could look better but the OL is atrocious.
I haven't heard much positive about the Poles picks since his arrival, other than the dbs. But boy, he'll nail this next draft and the Bears will compete for the NFC.

I'm sorry if I don't get excited about Fields, but he's got a ways to go yet. Will he and when will he get there ? Who knows.
The Bears set a franchise record for consecutive losses and they may very well see loss #10 on Sunday. But I'm not going to root for them to lose in hopes they can have a shot at the #1 pick.
And Tempo, I believe I've been watching the Bears longer than you've been alive.
!!!!!! golds!
Need a clappy emoji here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 12:28:54 PM
A lot to unpack there. Poles looks to have nailed two good (one maybe really really good) DBs without a 1st round pick. He got a LT in the 5th round who hasn’t been the biggest problem on the offensive line. Not sure he’s a good LT but I’m convinced he can be a guy worth keeping and maybe he better on the right side. He got a possible future pro bowl punter.

Considering he had almost no draft assets, that’s a decent draft. You’re usually doing well if you get 2-3 good players in a draft. And again, he had no 1sts. Velus Jones looks awful. Hated the pick on draft day.

Also Jack Sanborn performed admirably as a FA rookie.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 12:34:30 PM
As fas as accuracy, it was clearly better (most often) after the first month or so. A lot of analysts (of which I posted and PAMan rejected) said they saw growth in his game.

He doesn’t call the plays, so it’s unfair to only point at him as the reason they don’t throw the ball. I’m really baffled by the fact they don’t call more slants, crossing routes etc. I would love to have two minutes of Getsy’s time to have him explain why.

It’s perfectly factual the talent around him is well below par. Everyone but PAMan seems to concede that. He says it every blue moon but then says “but Fields has to overcome that because he’s the most important position on the field” qualifiers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 12:36:57 PM
If Poles had hit that 3rd pick, it would have been a terrific draft.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 12:39:36 PM
Also slightly hopeful Doug Kramer (who missed the whole season with injury) can possibly be a usable Center. Dominque Robinson has flashed potential, but I’m not banking on him to be great.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 12:48:31 PM
https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2023/01/05/pundits-are-already-lining-up-trade-partners-for-the-bears-on-draft-day/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 06, 2023, 12:56:04 PM

I’m really baffled by the fact they don’t call more slants, crossing routes etc. I would love to have two minutes of Getsy’s time to have him explain why.

Because Fields isn't accurate. Those passes get picked off too easily.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 12:58:48 PM
Because Fields isn't accurate. Those passes get picked off too easily.

No. You’re guessing here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 01:02:57 PM
Peyton Manning’s rookie INT rate was 4.9%. Fields’ over two years is about 3.5. I don’t want to hear “he’s turning it over too much.” You’re just guessing as to what you think would happen. Your hunches need to be better supported.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 01:05:23 PM
As I’ve said many times there are a lot of factors at work:

1) Fields not developed enough
2) Protection is very poor
3) Receivers are not good/reliable
4) terrible defense (can’t have 22 second drives)
5) conservative, defensive oriented HC
6) they run it really well
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 06, 2023, 01:17:55 PM
No. You’re guessing here.
Lol. You think they've tried it in practice ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 01:31:10 PM
Lol. You think they've tried it in practice ?

Probably.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 03:09:05 PM
Lol. You think they've tried it in practice ?

The problem with your assumption (it’s Fields’ fault) is that assumes everyone else is good at what they do. Given the obvious talent deficiencies across the offense and a rookie OC wouldn’t that be assuming a lot? Certainly couldn’t be that Getsy doesn’t feel slants are what his receiving corps does well, right? Couldn’t be that a rookie OC falls in love with certain plays and concepts and just doesn’t get around to calling more slants? It’s got to be Justin Fields’ fault, amirite?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 06, 2023, 03:46:02 PM
Lol. You think they've tried it in practice ?

We know JFC has "nothing to work with" so that means the Bear have ZERO WRs who can run any those routes. NOT ONE. NADA. ZIP. ZILCH. NOBODY. NONE. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 04:01:45 PM
If the Bears don’t do something well it’s Justin Fields’ fault. Has to be. No other explanation.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 07:33:33 PM
I can tell you right now what PAMan’s narrative would be on this.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4xyVDp1D/FE54994-C-E19-F-4-F69-BA12-3-ECD406-AA741.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WdRdrFC8)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 06, 2023, 09:03:40 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/66S7mT33/BD33-CF29-2924-4776-8-FFD-38-EB6-DCA59-C4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yj6q4rQK)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: OneYearContract125 on January 06, 2023, 10:32:06 PM
Great job by Poles re-signing a guy that completely sucks as a receiver, according to CLOWN 34.

Damn, bro. That's cold.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: OneYearContract125 on January 06, 2023, 11:48:22 PM
This "Wayne in Itasca" guy sounds like a smart football fan. This fool Claypool is losing major snaps to me, N'Keal, Byron, and Dante and wants to call everyone else out for our "effort." Get yourself on the field, C.L.O.W.N!

Fast forward to 17:50

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/01-06-7pm-chase-claypool-calls-out-team/id1482803660?i=1000592939899
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 07, 2023, 03:51:29 PM
This alt might have some potential  :D
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 07, 2023, 03:54:46 PM
Damn, bro. That's cold.

Your beef is with Tempo34.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 07, 2023, 03:58:01 PM
Damn, bro. That's cold.

How could you let a perfect side arm dime from Fields go right through your hands?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: OneYearContract125 on January 07, 2023, 04:35:08 PM
How could you let a perfect side arm dime from Fields go right through your hands?

Wasn't my fault, I wasn't expecting him to hit me in the hands.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 07, 2023, 04:37:32 PM
Wasn't my fault, I wasn't expecting him to hit me in the hands.

I knew it!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: OneYearContract125 on January 07, 2023, 05:03:03 PM
I can tell you right now what PAMan’s narrative would be on this.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4xyVDp1D/FE54994-C-E19-F-4-F69-BA12-3-ECD406-AA741.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WdRdrFC8)

This is quite interesting
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: OneYearContract125 on January 07, 2023, 05:03:36 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/66S7mT33/BD33-CF29-2924-4776-8-FFD-38-EB6-DCA59-C4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yj6q4rQK)

So is this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 07, 2023, 05:12:08 PM
This is quite interesting

Too bad all of you are in the NFL now....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 07, 2023, 05:13:27 PM
So is this.

Well, you can say that Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield are quarterbacks, but they sure are not franchise QBs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 07, 2023, 05:14:10 PM
Even the sock puppet is getting trounced.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 07, 2023, 05:47:53 PM
This is quite interesting
Have you seen that throwing motion in a game from him this year ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 07, 2023, 05:51:35 PM
Have you seen that throwing motion in a game from him this year ?

He's probably been too busy blocking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 07, 2023, 05:53:25 PM
He's probably been too busy blocking.
You might be right.
Have you seen it ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 07, 2023, 06:00:19 PM
You might be right.
Have you seen it ?

I have never seen him play... ;D
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: OneYearContract125 on January 07, 2023, 06:56:35 PM
He's probably been too busy blocking.

I'm the 158th best paid WR in football. Gotta earn that 💰!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: OneYearContract125 on January 07, 2023, 06:59:34 PM
Based on one year that is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 07, 2023, 08:04:13 PM
"The debate will rage on, and many fans will be annoyed. However, when you hear a pundit saying that the Chicago Bears should trade Justin Fields, or move him to wide receiver, then draft a quarterback, you should smile.......In fact, the Chicago Bears should lean into this...
Do not get mad when rumors swirl that the team may move on from Fields, or that they are high on insert quarterback here. It is the smart thing to do, and even the biggest Justin Fields fan should agree."
https://beargoggleson.com/2023/01/07/chicago-bears-interest-qb-offseason/amp/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 07, 2023, 09:23:00 PM
"The debate will rage on, and many fans will be annoyed. However, when you hear a pundit saying that the Chicago Bears should trade Justin Fields, or move him to wide receiver, then draft a quarterback, you should smile.......In fact, the Chicago Bears should lean into this...
Do not get mad when rumors swirl that the team may move on from Fields, or that they are high on insert quarterback here. It is the smart thing to do, and even the biggest Justin Fields fan should agree."
https://beargoggleson.com/2023/01/07/chicago-bears-interest-qb-offseason/amp/

Absolutely. Increases the value of their pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: OneYearContract125 on January 08, 2023, 02:58:30 AM
Damn...did it again. Stayed up all night getting boozed up with hookers on game night. This is probably why I suck so bad. Looking forward to catching balls from The Peterman tomorrow. He gets rid of it quickly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 10:23:07 AM
"The debate will rage on, and many fans will be annoyed. However, when you hear a pundit saying that the Chicago Bears should trade Justin Fields, or move him to wide receiver, then draft a quarterback, you should smile.......In fact, the Chicago Bears should lean into this...
Do not get mad when rumors swirl that the team may move on from Fields, or that they are high on insert quarterback here. It is the smart thing to do, and even the biggest Justin Fields fan should agree."
https://beargoggleson.com/2023/01/07/chicago-bears-interest-qb-offseason/amp/

The Bears should trade Fields. I’d expect a return at least as good as the Herschel Walker trade.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 10:35:55 AM
Even the sock puppet is getting trounced.

Interesting perspective.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 10:56:13 AM
Haha. Good stuff.

Speaking of good stuff, Jim O'Donnell today

https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20230108/odonnell-the-sad-sack-finale-of-the-bears-should-be-handled-with-bitter-bite

Which included this nugget...

As expected, one encumbrance at WSCR 670-AM, is back to trying to sell "key demographic" numbers to more pliable Chicago-based sports media dilettantes. That's a sure sign the station is having problems. (A more impressive figure could be the staff's median daily caloric intake.) ...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 11:03:38 AM
Interesting perspective.

Thanks, ThePeeAMan! Nice to have you here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 11:05:20 AM
The Bears should trade Fields. I’d expect a return at least as good as the Herschel Walker trade.

Agree. Tempo only thinks he would bring a 6th or 7th round pick. Seems low for a budding superstar, don't you think?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 12:30:07 PM
Haha. Good stuff.

Speaking of good stuff, Jim O'Donnell today

https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20230108/odonnell-the-sad-sack-finale-of-the-bears-should-be-handled-with-bitter-bite

Which included this nugget...

As expected, one encumbrance at WSCR 670-AM, is back to trying to sell "key demographic" numbers to more pliable Chicago-based sports media dilettantes. That's a sure sign the station is having problems. (A more impressive figure could be the staff's median daily caloric intake.) ...

That guy is hilarious. He gets paid for taking a shit on his keyboard? I’d like that gig.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 12:31:43 PM
Paging DoctorintheFlat
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: DoctorIntheFlat on January 08, 2023, 12:34:07 PM
Paging DoctorintheFlat

Luckily I'm on call today. What's up?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 12:52:59 PM
Guess Peterman was doing too well
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 12:54:20 PM
Tim Boyle has nothing to work with
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 12:57:55 PM
Tim Boyle has nothing to work with

He and Patrick Peterson have formed a nice connection.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 12:58:19 PM
Texans 17 Colts 7! Gooooo Lovie!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: DoctorIntheFlat on January 08, 2023, 12:59:52 PM
Vikings -6 was like stealing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 01:06:07 PM
Bears!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: GrandmaPAMan on January 08, 2023, 01:45:26 PM
Haha. Good stuff.

Speaking of good stuff, Jim O'Donnell today

https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20230108/odonnell-the-sad-sack-finale-of-the-bears-should-be-handled-with-bitter-bite

Which included this nugget...

As expected, one encumbrance at WSCR 670-AM, is back to trying to sell "key demographic" numbers to more pliable Chicago-based sports media dilettantes. That's a sure sign the station is having problems. (A more impressive figure could be the staff's median daily caloric intake.) ...

Are you wearing clean underwear today, Grandson?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 02:06:31 PM
Are you wearing clean underwear today, Grandson?

Wow, you got 4 mults going today.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 02:08:56 PM
Wow, you got 4 mults going today.

Brining my A game for this must win game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 02:09:41 PM
Damn it Brisker, let that one go!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 02:13:34 PM
Brining my A game for this must win game.

Or is it 5 you have going?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 02:15:55 PM
Or is it 5 you have going?

Can’t keep track.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:28:18 PM
I’ll be honest. If this were next year, (Caleb Williams) I’d be open to trading Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:29:48 PM
LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:33:04 PM
So now that Claypool pick we gave up is technically a 1st rounder.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:33:37 PM
LOL

Expound.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on January 08, 2023, 03:46:35 PM
Congrats to the 2023 Bears for being the worst team in the NFL. 32 of 32.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:47:21 PM
Congrats to the 2023 Bears for being the worst team in the NFL. 32 of 32.

You do realize it was more or less by design, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:50:00 PM
Serious question for Mn. Would you rather have ended the losing streak today, or gotten the 1st pick? Please answer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:50:22 PM
Expound.

Please expound, PAMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:51:43 PM
So now that Claypool pick we gave up is technically a 1st rounder.

The only thing that could cost Ryan Poles GM of the Year!

So now the Bears have the most FA money, and the #1 pick heading into next year! Amazing!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on January 08, 2023, 03:52:17 PM
You do realize it was more or less by design, right?

They need to replace virtually the entire team to even get back to being competitive.

Terrible defense.
Terrible QB
Terrible O Line
Terrible WRs

Nobody in the NFL would trade places with the Bears.

Celebrating being last only works in the NBA if there a Lebron you can draft.  Doesn’t work that way in any other sport.

Enjoy your horrific football team.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:53:35 PM
Bears fans at Soldier Field celebrating the #1 pick.

https://twitter.com/jlazowski14/status/1612196072041975808?s=46&t=QZGRpsJn7hkNmGQEv8bKSg
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:54:39 PM
A better one.

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1612197055476252673?s=46&t=QZGRpsJn7hkNmGQEv8bKSg
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 03:58:27 PM
Mn’s narrative. “George McCaskey celebrates 10 game losing streak!”

(https://i.postimg.cc/LXr6Dd5y/CF535-E90-8-E0-B-4-F89-A83-A-A201-F62-DBB78.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JmSk0hW)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 08, 2023, 03:58:58 PM
Serious question for Mn. Would you rather have ended the losing streak today, or gotten the 1st pick? Please answer.
My preference would be a loss. How many teams can get the 1st pick with a budding super star and GM of the Year ?
And do it by design.
Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 04:01:23 PM
My preference would be a loss. How many teams can get the 1st pick with a budding super star and GM of the Year ?
And do it by design.
Lol.

I’d like a real answer, please.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 04:02:46 PM
I shouldn’t be stewing over that Claypool trade right now, but I kinda am. SMH
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 04:06:47 PM
PAMan’s (original) guy Parkins should be a great listen tomorrow!

(https://i.postimg.cc/j2LPwY9Z/FBC79-D5-B-9-D9-E-4-CA7-BF6-C-A1-AE577-CBC9-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fSQJppM9)most popular baby names 2004 (https://treetop100babynames.com/1000-popular-baby-names-2004)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 04:29:38 PM
Top 50 WR!

(https://i.postimg.cc/KjTLDS7f/B6476036-0-A66-46-E0-83-CA-1435-DAE2-D06-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MfWvzLFf)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 04:30:16 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/J7XBg8Jc/1-BBEB43-F-417-E-423-F-BFC1-27-FD360-DCC15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0r8QMLVb)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 04:32:01 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/vm1mV7tL/C8159-D73-DC35-4176-A8-C8-C7-FB09-DF5-E02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1jy0xfY)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 08, 2023, 04:41:21 PM
I’d like a real answer, please.
Not good enough ?
A loss. With a budding NFL super star, the GM of the Year, a franchise record 10 consecutive losses, the worst record in over 50 years, and hell yes baby, the 1st #1 pick in over 80 years.
All by design.
I think I'll open another bottle of champagne. Cheers !! 🍾
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 08, 2023, 04:52:44 PM
They need to replace virtually the entire team to even get back to being competitive.

Terrible defense.
Terrible QB
Terrible O Line
Terrible WRs

Nobody in the NFL would trade places with the Bears.

Celebrating being last only works in the NBA if there a Lebron you can draft.  Doesn’t work that way in any other sport.

Enjoy your horrific football team.

There was an idiot in the previous incarnation of the board who insisted the 76ers were the greatest franchise EVER because they would tank and get higher draft picks. Now, years after choosing this strategy, they have Joel Embiid. And no one else, other than James Harden. What a strategy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 08, 2023, 05:14:03 PM
I just have to laugh at all of this
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 05:16:08 PM
Not good enough ?
A loss. With a budding NFL super star, the GM of the Year, a franchise record 10 consecutive losses, the worst record in over 50 years, and hell yes baby, the 1st #1 pick in over 80 years.
All by design.
I think I'll open another bottle of champagne. Cheers !! 🍾

You’re literally incapable of a sincere answer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 05:19:37 PM
They need to replace virtually the entire team to even get back to being competitive.

Terrible defense.
Terrible QB
Terrible O Line
Terrible WRs

Nobody in the NFL would trade places with the Bears.

Celebrating being last only works in the NBA if there a Lebron you can draft.  Doesn’t work that way in any other sport.

Enjoy your horrific football team.

The Jaguars had the first pick last year and are in the playoffs this year.

The Bears have easily the most cap space in the NFL and they have the #1 pick. They control the FA market, trade market, and NFL draft. They are in a strong position moving forward.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 05:20:02 PM
I just have to laugh at all of this

That doesn’t tell us a lot.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 05:25:27 PM
Judge Judy’s virtual trade scenario in which the Bears trade down twice is now realistic. And could even potentially still get Anderson or Carter. That would be unbelievable. Trade with Denver and then trade into that 5 spot with Indy would be amazing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 05:27:45 PM
This…unless you’re a “But the McCaskeys” person, you’re pumped.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8CR4dvH9/6-E542-B9-B-7-A0-D-4601-9-DDE-CC468-E9-A63-E7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLfT8V4F)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on January 08, 2023, 05:57:16 PM
Fan bases always get it excited about drafts when their teams are terrible.

But this year is probably one of the worst years to have a #1 pick overall since there aren’t any can’t miss prospects.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on January 08, 2023, 06:01:09 PM
There was an idiot in the previous incarnation of the board who insisted the 76ers were the greatest franchise EVER because they would tank and get higher draft picks. Now, years after choosing this strategy, they have Joel Embiid. And no one else, other than James Harden. What a strategy.

Yep.  Plenty of NFL teams have gotten the #1 overall pick and remained terrible.

For every Bengals success story getting Burrow, there’s far more that remain garbage.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 06:09:41 PM
Fan bases always get it excited about drafts when their teams are terrible.

But this year is probably one of the worst years to have a #1 pick overall since there aren’t any can’t miss prospects.

But 3 QBs will likely go top 6. And the Bears have the most cap space in the league.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 06:25:03 PM
But 3 QBs will likely go top 6. And the Bears have the most cap space in the league.

Aren't people skeptical of the QBs in this draft class? Isn't Young 5 9 or 5 10?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:21:47 PM
Aren't people skeptical of the QBs in this draft class? Isn't Young 5 9 or 5 10?

Look at the mocks. I think I’ve seen maybe one where Young wasn’t the overall #1. Stroud and Levis usually got top 2-6. Not the strongest year for QB, but not a bad one either. I wish there were one more obvious top 3 QB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:23:03 PM
Aren't people skeptical of the QBs in this draft class? Isn't Young 5 9 or 5 10?

He’s bigger than Kyler Murray who went #1 overall. Probably not much smaller than Baker, but much more athletic. I don’t think teams are scared off by size as much as they used to be.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on January 08, 2023, 07:32:15 PM
But 3 QBs will likely go top 6. And the Bears have the most cap space in the league.

Well they certainly need cap space given that they need to replace virtually the entire roster from a 3-14 team
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:33:22 PM
Well they certainly need cap space given that they need to replace virtually the entire roster from a 3-14 team

Yes. That was the plan. Rather than expecting two 47 year old edge rushers to lead them to greatness.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:34:08 PM
Well they certainly need cap space given that they need to replace virtually the entire roster from a 3-14 team

See if you can get ThePAMan to understand this for me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Dominic on January 08, 2023, 07:40:04 PM
Who do you think has a bright future in 2023 and 2024:

Detroit Lions (8-8)
Chicago Bears (3-14)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:41:55 PM
Who do you think has a bright future in 2023 and 2024:

Detroit Lions (8-8)
Chicago Bears (3-14)

Next year, Lions. After that, Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 09, 2023, 08:19:46 AM
Tom Thayer, whose opinion mattered when ThePAMan thought he was criticizing Fields says he “found the WR group unimpressive.” 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 09, 2023, 08:47:31 AM
Did Custard edit this to “2023” Bears? Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 09, 2023, 09:15:42 AM
Nope
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 10:36:40 AM
Tom Thayer, whose opinion mattered when ThePAMan thought he was criticizing Fields says he “found the WR group unimpressive.”

Must protect the budding superstar at this point.

I note that the QBs who played yesterday had time to throw, for the vast part of the game, against the remnants of the Viking starting D. Maybe the line pass block better for guys they know will actually throw the ball?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 09, 2023, 10:39:10 AM
Your trolling skills are getting worse,  not better. Past your prime?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 10:41:34 AM
Your trolling skills are getting worse,  not better. Past your prime?

You are actually going to sit here and tell us they did not have time to throw yesterday?

Did you bother to watch the game when activating all your mults yesterday?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 09, 2023, 10:54:48 AM
if the bears don't draft Jalen Carter or trade down for a shitload of picks they are retarded
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePeeAMan on January 09, 2023, 11:00:17 AM
if the bears don't draft Jalen Carter or trade down for a shitload of picks they are retarded

As much as I want Carter or Anderson, it would be a crime against humanity if they don’t trade down. Ideal scenario would be to trade with Indy and maybe still get Carter along with a big haul of high picks/players.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 11:04:45 AM
I actually didn’t realize Indy fell to 4th. They’d be the ideal trading partner. They are so dysfunctional, and I’m sure Irsay is dying to put the Andrew Luck narrative behind him. Pittman or DeForest Buckner would look good in Bears uniforms.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 12:29:27 PM
My preference would be a loss. How many teams can get the 1st pick with a budding super star and GM of the Year ?
And do it by design.
Lol.

Still waiting for a sincere answer from you on this question. I know it’s not coming though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 12:34:12 PM
Still waiting for a sincere answer from you on this question. I know it’s not coming though.

Should we compile your list of unanswered questions?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 12:35:44 PM
Should we compile your list of unanswered questions?

Which ones? Ask em now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 12:40:18 PM
Which ones? Ask em now.

Mn has the list of what he has asked you that have gone unanswered.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 09, 2023, 12:40:40 PM
Still waiting for a sincere answer from you on this question. I know it’s not coming though.
You mean this from before the game ?
" But I'm not going to root for them to lose in hopes they can have a shot at the #1 pick."

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 12:42:20 PM
Mn has the list of what he has asked you that have gone unanswered.

Lol. Like what? I’ll wait.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 12:43:24 PM
You mean this from before the game ?
" But I'm not going to root for them to lose in hopes they can have a shot at the #1 pick."

Apparently I overlooked that. So you’d rather they were picking 4th and gone 4-13. Excellent…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 12:46:17 PM
Have you seen that throwing motion in a game from him this year ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 12:47:39 PM
Check that, you answered this one.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 12:48:42 PM


So you expect serious answers to troll questions?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 12:50:20 PM
So you expect serious answers to troll questions?

It was as relevant as you bringing up some dude's analysis of Fields in college.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 12:53:51 PM
It was as relevant as you bringing up some dude's analysis of Fields in college.

It’s a stupid question only designed to troll and you know it. You can’t be serious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 12:54:29 PM
Unfortunately, I know you are serious, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 12:56:54 PM
Unfortunately, I know you are serious, though.

You asked for what questions you have left unanswered. That was one of them.

The answer is "No, I have not seen Fields use the same throwing motion he did right after college at his pro day or mini-camp"?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 12:57:48 PM
You asked for what questions you have left unanswered. That was one of them.

The answer is "No, I have not see Fields use the same throwing motion he did right after college at his pro day or mini-camp"?

I’m talking about serious questions. Not “Have you seen him use this form at all this season? Derp…”

Get real
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 12:58:29 PM
You are reaching like stretch Armstrong right now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 12:59:29 PM
I’m talking about serious questions. Not “Have you seen him use this form at all this season? Derp…”

Get real

I do not understand why you do not want to answer Mn's question that is directly premised on something you posted in defense of the Wingback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:00:37 PM
Give me a real question; like what’s your evaluation of Ryan Poles? Matt Eberflus? Getsy?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:01:32 PM
I do not understand why you do not want to answer Mn's question that is directly premised on something you posted in defense of the Wingback.

Yes, “i saw him make a pass that looked like that in the Patriots game.”

 Lol there answered
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 01:01:48 PM
You are reaching like stretch Armstrong right now.

Not as much as posting some dude's draft analysis about Fields. Or, even better, one that compared him to Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:02:28 PM
Real question: what is Fields’ ceiling? Floor?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:03:09 PM
Not as much as posting some dude's draft analysis about Fields. Or, even better, one that compared him to Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield.

You need to tell your doctor no more heavy medications. You barely make sense anymore.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:03:35 PM
That “dude” was PFF…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 01:03:46 PM
Yes, “i saw him make a pass that looked like that in the Patriots game.”

 Lol there answered

That was not so tough, was it? Probably inaccurate, but at least it is an answer.

https://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:04:45 PM
That was not so tough, was it? Probably inaccurate, but at least it is an answer.

https://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0

It got a better answer than it deserved. As it was a question designed to do nothing but troll.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 01:07:23 PM
Real question: what is Fields’ ceiling? Floor?

I think the ceiling could be very high. But he has to put in a lot of work.

Floor is if he hurts his legs, can't run, and still can't pass: A crippled Mitch.,
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:08:40 PM
I think the ceiling could be very high. But he has to put in a lot of work.

Floor is if he hurts his legs, can't run, and still can't pass: A crippled Mitch.,

I wouldn’t disagree with that. Although I think he’s clearly already a better passer than Mitch. But I think what you said is mostly fair.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:10:20 PM
I know you’d never tune into Dan Bernstein, but you should listen to their 43 minutes with Anthony Herron starting at 11:00. Some really good discussion was going on there. I might give it a re-listen as I missed some of it here and there and didn’t give it my undivided attention. A lot of really good talk on Fields and the Bears, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:11:24 PM
I usually find Anthony Herron kind of boring (vanilla analysis) but I thought he’s been really good lately.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:12:03 PM
His analysis is usually solid, but he doesn’t usually stake a position. Sometimes that’s boring.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 09, 2023, 01:36:29 PM
Still waiting for a sincere answer from you on this question. I know it’s not coming though.

Maybe you should make another troll account.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 01:42:53 PM
Maybe you should make another troll account.

77.4% chance of that happening.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 02:06:03 PM
I wouldn’t disagree with that. Although I think he’s clearly already a better passer than Mitch. But I think what you said is mostly fair.

Mitch was at his best as a Bear making passing plays while on the run. I will grant the man that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 02:07:19 PM
77.4% chance of that happening.

Only 77.4%?

That is a good one though, Tempo.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 02:08:53 PM
Only 77.4%?

That is a good one though, Tempo.

It’s ever-changing. Just went up to 89.1%. IVMPs Head just exploded.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 09, 2023, 02:54:13 PM
I laughed
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 09, 2023, 03:00:59 PM
Mitch was at his best as a Bear making passing plays while on the run. I will grant the man that.

He should have been, as that's likely why they drafted him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2023, 10:49:56 PM
Byron Pringle had 10 catches this year. So $412,000 per catch lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 10, 2023, 12:11:11 AM
Byron Pringle had 10 catches this year. So $412,000 per catch lol

Made some good blocks though
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 07:21:42 AM
Made some good blocks though

As said before, your contributions here are very notable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2023, 07:37:19 AM
As said before, your contributions here are very notable.

The $ to block ratio is probably pretty low, so there is that
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 07:54:52 AM
Made some good blocks though

And please come back, I value your insight. *McCaskeys*
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 08:24:28 AM
“I firmly believe Justin Fields has won the respect of every player in that locker room.” - Dave Wannstedt
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on January 10, 2023, 08:47:04 AM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/50174-dave-wannstedt-the-worst-coach-ever
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 09:03:47 AM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/50174-dave-wannstedt-the-worst-coach-ever

Bleacher Report hahahahahahaha (see that’s an easy game to play).

And while he wasn’t a great coach, he definitely was not (the worst ever).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 10, 2023, 09:04:17 AM
Byron Pringle had 10 catches this year. So $412,000 per catch lol

Needs a QB who can get him the ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 09:07:57 AM
Needs a QB who can get him the ball.

He had one in KC. They let him walk.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 09:11:41 AM
The $ to block ratio is probably pretty low, so there is that

I noticed the sig change. You think that’s some kind of “gotcha?” Please explain.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 09:13:19 AM
You guys are gonna have to slow down on all these “unanswered questions” I have. It’s difficult to keep up here. I mean, I’ve already gotten one, and it wasn’t even a real question. Slow down.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 10, 2023, 09:25:02 AM
You guys are gonna have to slow down on all these “unanswered questions” I have. It’s difficult to keep up here. I mean, I’ve already gotten one, and it wasn’t even a real question. Slow down.
I have some "unanswered questions".
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2023, 09:30:20 AM
Bleacher Report hahahahahahaha (see that’s an easy game to play).

And you are great at it!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2023, 09:31:41 AM
Needs a QB who can get him the ball.

The Bear receivers have had nothing to work with.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
And you are great at it!

Not nearly as good as you. You are the Master of randomly selective credentials.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 09:32:35 AM
So again, explain your sig.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2023, 09:39:24 AM
I noticed the sig change. You think that’s some kind of “gotcha?” Please explain.

Think about it and you should figure it out
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 09:45:16 AM
Think about it and you should figure it out

I’m too dumb. I need you to explain it to me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 10, 2023, 09:51:29 AM
And you are great at it!

Tempo's that type of guy -- with lower back pain, if you know what I mean.

LL Cool J meets up with his lady for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Tempo stays home with a TV dinner.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 10, 2023, 09:51:45 AM
I’m too dumb.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 09:54:39 AM
Tempo's that type of guy -- with lower back pain, if you know what I mean.

LL Cool J meets up with his lady for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Tempo stays home with a TV dinner.

Things are getting weird. Again.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 10, 2023, 09:58:41 AM
Im not sure what to think of this IVMP character either 🤔

He could be Rainman?
He could be Gilbert Grape?
He could be Karl Childers?
He could be Forrest Gump?
He could be Will Hunting?

Anybody else have any suggestions?

Oh I forgot… he could be Eminem too 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2023, 10:04:41 AM
Not nearly as good as you. You are the Master of randomly selective credentials.

I learned how to play from you!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 10:06:51 AM
I learned how to play from you!

I shot down 25 different sources you linked because it didn’t fit my narrative?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 10:07:42 AM
C’mon man, explain your sig. And how it’s a big “gotcha.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 10:21:28 AM
I need you to explain that sig to me, PAMan. Why is it a “gotcha?”

Don’t worry, I don’t expect an explanation, because it’ll be piss poor I’m sure. I see you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 10, 2023, 10:40:57 AM
Things are getting weird. Again.

How is your TV dinner?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 11:57:46 AM
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Tempo would consider resetting the quarterback contract clock and drafting a rare talent/consensus #1 overall pick, and trading Justin Fields.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

What a C.LO.W.N.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 11:59:13 AM
How is your TV dinner?

Meatloaf, mash taters, corn. Really good.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 12:32:30 PM
Roquan gets his 100 mill from Ravens.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 10, 2023, 01:44:45 PM
Meatloaf, mash taters, corn. Really good.

That's cool. I got one with shrimp and veggies a couple of weeks ago. It was OK, I guess.

There was one back in the day that was chicken piccata and potatoes. I used to eat two of those after work. But I am not sure it is even at the store for purchase today.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 02:57:22 PM
Giving PAMan fair warning so that his head doesn’t explode when they extend Cole Kmet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2023, 03:00:29 PM
Giving PAMan fair warning so that his head doesn’t explode when they extend Cole Kmet.

I'm not the one who said The Budding Superstar Wingback had "nothing to work with...", remember?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 04:23:59 PM
I'm not the one who said The Budding Superstar Wingback had "nothing to work with...", remember?

You’re also the one who doesn’t understand how a salary cap works. Especially one for a team that needs a ton of new starters.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 04:29:12 PM
I’m also not the one who thinks you’re likely going to get a difference making WR on a super-duper cheap one year deal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 04:31:26 PM
I’d be willing to bet if you gave Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Justin Herbert a terrible offensive line and 3 WR5-6s to work with for an entire year they wouldn’t love the results.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2023, 04:48:21 PM
You’re also the one who doesn’t understand how a salary cap works. Especially one for a team that needs a ton of new starters.

Again, I am not the one who said Fields had "nothing to work with..."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2023, 04:49:28 PM
I’d be willing to bet if you gave Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Justin Herbert a terrible offensive line and 3 WR5-6s to work with for an entire year they wouldn’t love the results.

Maybe, maybe not. Betting they would have done better this year throwing the ball than The Wingback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 06:29:47 PM
Maybe, maybe not. Betting they would have done better this year throwing the ball than The Wingback.

Probably so. They also have a bit more experience.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2023, 06:39:21 PM
Probably so. They also have a bit more experience.

They also do not suck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 06:50:24 PM
There was a time where it was iffy, with Allen. Burrow and Herbert were the very rare exceptions who were excellent right away. Unicorns.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2023, 06:51:46 PM
Bills/Bears

Josh Allen rating 71
Justin Fields 97

Just sayin’.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2023, 08:19:35 PM
There was a time where it was iffy, with Allen. Burrow and Herbert were the very rare exceptions who were excellent right away. Unicorns.

Allen throws a lot of picks (and TDs). But he throws the ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 12:58:30 PM
Lol apparently some of these players thought they were better than they were and were “surprised” things didn’t go well.


https://www.chicitysports.com/report-tensions-high-between-chicago-bears-players-staff-for-exit-meetings/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2023, 01:02:28 PM
Lol apparently some of these players thought they were better than they were and were “surprised” things didn’t go well.


https://www.chicitysports.com/report-tensions-high-between-chicago-bears-players-staff-for-exit-meetings/

Don't know why that is funny. Wonder how many WR were mad about the playcalling and the "staffing" of the QB position.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 01:05:34 PM
And it only takes 4 minutes for the obvious retort to get posted.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T29hZLRm/14527-B3-F-A99-F-428-E-9-B52-FBC44-D42-E3-B8.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2023, 01:07:32 PM
And it only takes 4 minutes for the obvious retort to get posted.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T29hZLRm/14527-B3-F-A99-F-428-E-9-B52-FBC44-D42-E3-B8.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Just logged on after being off all morning. 

What is so funny about the livelihood of a bunch of guys on one year deals who got screwed over by the GM, coaches, and the Wingback?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 01:11:56 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 01:20:07 PM
I’d say the season went about as predicted for the Bears. Don’t know why anyone would be “surprised.”

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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2023, 01:33:10 PM
I’d say the season went about as predicted for the Bears. Don’t know why anyone would be “surprised.”

(https://i.postimg.cc/y8km6qnV/2-B93-A092-D96-E-446-B-8-F22-1-B6240-C03603.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WdcFSHQK)

Because the games were close early without a QB, then they gutted the defense (but were scoring points with a new offense), then people figured out the new offense?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2023, 01:33:53 PM
Lol

And you criticize the board conservatives for not having empathy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 01:49:46 PM
And you criticize the board conservatives for not having empathy.

Re-sign them all to 6 year deals?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 01:50:29 PM
And you criticize the board conservatives for not having empathy.

RandomLogicMan strikes again!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2023, 01:52:18 PM
Re-sign them all to 6 year deals?

Depends on who they are. But to laugh at guys who were here to win and are pissed that they had the rug pulled out under them by the GM, coaches, and Wingback and even purported "fans" who wanted them to lose....SMH.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2023, 01:52:38 PM
RandomLogicMan strikes again!

Tempo tempoing again.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 01:53:23 PM
Depends on who they are. But to laugh at guys who were here to win and are pissed that they had the rug pulled out under them by the GM, coaches, and Wingback and even purported "fans" who wanted them to lose....SMH.

Lol

You should rename yourself TheICantBeSeriousMan
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 01:56:42 PM
I think one reason the offense slowed down is they stopped running fields as much. The last 4 games he probably carried the ball half as much as he did the previous 4-5. I would guess due to nicks and bruises (shoulder) and seeing the trajectory of the season.

This team wouldn’t have been competitive in as many games as they were without Fields.

I think Fields was better on improvised runs anyway. Getsy got too run design happy for a good bit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 01:57:43 PM
Tempo tempoing again.

I think we should re-sign all these fine fellows to 6 year contracts. Since they were so dedicated to winning.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 02:02:27 PM
If only we had Joe Burrow we would be going to the Super Bowl this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2023, 02:06:37 PM
I think we should re-sign all these fine fellows to 6 year contracts. Since they were so dedicated to winning.

Tempo tempoing again.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2023, 02:07:32 PM
If only we had Joe Burrow we would be going to the Super Bowl this year.

There he goes Tempoing again...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 02:08:38 PM
You’ve become Robb. Well done.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2023, 02:13:08 PM
You’ve become Robb. Well done.

More Tempoing!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 02:14:34 PM
More Tempoing!

Good to see you back, Robb!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: RandomLogicMan on January 11, 2023, 03:01:09 PM
Tempo has reduced ThePAMan to RobMcColley ad hominem attacks. I really thought ThePAMan was mentally tougher than that. As soon as he accuses him of being a raging alcoholic, and a bad father the transformation will be complete!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 03:05:07 PM
I’m waiting for this massive influx of “unanswered questions.” Where are they?

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2023, 06:19:53 PM
I’m waiting for this massive influx of “unanswered questions.” Where are they?

Why all the mults?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 11, 2023, 07:18:44 PM
Why all the mults?

He’s like Mel Gibson in the movie The Beaver. If you haven’t seen it, you should check it out. Really good and underrated movie!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 07:24:35 PM
He’s like Mel Gibson in the movie The Beaver. If you haven’t seen it, you should check it out. Really good and underrated movie!

I just googled it. Sounds hilarious. Mel Gibson, though…pretty anti-semiticy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 07:25:56 PM
Why all the mults?

If I have to tell you, it spoils it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 07:29:24 PM
He’s like Mel Gibson in the movie The Beaver. If you haven’t seen it, you should check it out. Really good and underrated movie!

Wait, so this isn’t a comedy? Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 11, 2023, 07:34:53 PM
Wait, so this isn’t a comedy? Lol

No. It’s very dark and deep. Great fucking movie!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2023, 07:39:06 PM
Used to love Mel Gibson. Don’t think I could watch a Mel Gibson movie these days. Not after his racist and anti-Semitic rants.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Kevin Warren will be the next President of your Chicago Bears. Looks like a really good hire. Very non-Bears like.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 12, 2023, 10:08:27 AM
Kevin Warren will be the next President of your Chicago Bears. Looks like a really good hire. Very non-Bears like.

Well I guess that gets him out of the B1G. I’m cool with that I suppose.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 12, 2023, 10:16:04 AM
Well I guess that gets him out of the B1G. I’m cool with that I suppose.
He could have left before the USC/UCLA poaching.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 12, 2023, 10:55:32 AM
Kevin Warren will be the next President of your Chicago Bears. Looks like a really good hire. Very non-Bears like.

"McCaskeys! Hohohoarrarrarr!"
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 12, 2023, 10:57:12 AM
He could have left before the USC/UCLA poaching.

As dumb as that is, I support anything that might erode the current college sports system.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 12, 2023, 12:44:49 PM
As dumb as that is, I support anything that might erode the current college sports system.
I wonder what Mark Emmert's benefits are following his reign of terror.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 12, 2023, 03:33:03 PM
The biggest W here: Ted Philips is gone.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 12, 2023, 04:20:19 PM
I wonder what Mark Emmert's benefits are following his reign of terror.

The worst decision ever made was restricting CFB conference title games to conferences with at least 12 schools. It gave some schools a competitive advantage, and it wrecked many of the conference alignments.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 12, 2023, 04:26:13 PM
The worst decision ever made was restricting CFB conference title games to conferences with at least 12 schools. It gave some schools a competitive advantage, and it wrecked many of the conference alignments.
And not addressing some type of compensation for revenue sports athletes has brought us to NIL.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 13, 2023, 05:11:14 AM
Don’t typically like the articles from “Fansided” but this one is well written and argued IMO.

https://beargoggleson.com/2023/01/12/chicago-bears-trade-justin-fields-rumors/amp/3/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 13, 2023, 09:19:07 AM
And not addressing some type of compensation for revenue sports athletes has brought us to NIL.

I would agree. However, I am not sure the NCAA was equipped to handle dealing with all of the state legislation that came with that territory. Probably they could have been more prepared somewhere along the way.

NIL is going to be an issue as schools figure out how to exploit it. Some already have.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 13, 2023, 09:37:02 AM
Don’t typically like the articles from “Fansided” but this one is well written and argued IMO.

https://beargoggleson.com/2023/01/12/chicago-bears-trade-justin-fields-rumors/amp/3/

It's total horseshit, except for the part about the center causing some of the fumbles.

By the end, when the "writer" was saying the analysts just need to jump on the Fields bandwagon, I'm sure that he and you were doing the VJOM polka.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 13, 2023, 10:04:25 AM
Don’t typically like the articles from “Fansided” but this one is well written and argued IMO.

https://beargoggleson.com/2023/01/12/chicago-bears-trade-justin-fields-rumors/amp/3/

Of course you think so because it fits your narrative/beliefs towards Fields. You do understand that’s called bias and an error when analyzing him, right?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 13, 2023, 10:14:32 AM
Of course you think so because it fits your narrative/beliefs towards Fields. You do understand that’s called bias and an error when analyzing him, right?!

The narrative that he got better because the statistics support that conclusion?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 13, 2023, 02:11:20 PM
The narrative that he got better because the statistics support that conclusion?

The person who wrote the article adjusted the statistics to fit a conclusion. ESPN does that all of the time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 13, 2023, 02:15:11 PM
The person who wrote the article adjusted the statistics to fit a conclusion. ESPN does that all of the time.

Yes, the conclusion (that statistics supported) was that he got better after a rough start to the season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 13, 2023, 02:21:15 PM
Yes, the conclusion (that statistics supported) was that he got better after a rough start to the season.

Better than what? That first game? Of course he did. He sucked.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 13, 2023, 02:38:20 PM
Better than what? That first game? Of course he did. He sucked.

First game was in a monsoon.

First 4-5 games.

2nd year quarterback you’re looking for improvement. We saw that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 13, 2023, 03:24:24 PM
First game was in a monsoon.

First 4-5 games.

2nd year quarterback you’re looking for improvement. We saw that.

We didn't see it with the WR production.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: RandomLogicMan on January 13, 2023, 03:51:19 PM
We didn't see it with the WR production.

You are so RIGHT!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 14, 2023, 08:01:26 AM
Here’s an article I love seeing. If the Bears could add Saquon and make a trade for a guy like Mike Evans (and add a couple of OL starters, oh man). 12 million is not that bad for a guy of Saquon’s caliber. He, Fields, and a strong deep threat would be really dynamic. I like Montgomery, but he doesn’t have big play explosiveness. And Herbert doesn’t catch or block well.

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/saquon-barkley-signing-rumors-fields-montgomery/amp/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 14, 2023, 10:01:10 AM
Here’s an article I love seeing. If the Bears could add Saquon and make a trade for a guy like Mike Evans (and add a couple of OL starters, oh man). 12 million is not that bad for a guy of Saquon’s caliber. He, Fields, and a strong deep threat would be really dynamic. I like Montgomery, but he doesn’t have big play explosiveness. And Herbert doesn’t catch or block well.

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/saquon-barkley-signing-rumors-fields-montgomery/amp/

I’d be ok with it if he could stay healthy. That’s a lot of money to have a player not play. If we could get the him like the Christian McCaffery San Fran is getting, that’d be great!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 14, 2023, 11:18:22 AM
I’d be ok with it if he could stay healthy. That’s a lot of money to have a player not play. If we could get the him like the Christian McCaffery San Fran is getting, that’d be great!

I’ve followed him pretty closely as I’ve often had him on my fantasy team. He only missed one game this year I think. He had the ACL (bad luck) and the high ankle sprain I think last year. I don’t think he’s had a huge injury history outside of those. Could happen to anyone. He’s not Alshon Jeffrey or anything like that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 14, 2023, 11:20:04 AM
I like David Montgomery. He’s a good player. The Bears just need another explosive threat to go with Fields. I salivate at the idea of Fields, Saquon, and Mike Evans together.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 14, 2023, 11:20:40 AM
Saquon is only projected to be about 4 million per year more. I think that’d be worth it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 14, 2023, 11:21:16 AM
Note to PAMan. This is “Tempoing.” Four posts in a row…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 14, 2023, 02:50:56 PM
A lot of different clips embedded into this link. Some Bears/draft related. Some not.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/video/matt-miller-alabamas-bryce-young-1-overall-qb-2023-nfl-draft
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 17, 2023, 08:36:43 PM
McCaskey gonna McCaskey…

https://twitter.com/adamhoge/status/1615426072710942730?s=46&t=yFjCqz2QmlQq3bDdG7d-7g
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 18, 2023, 01:27:44 PM
Getsy coaching in the Senior Bowl. If his team is throwing slant and flat passes, cultists' heads will explode.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 18, 2023, 01:57:25 PM
Getsy coaching in the Senior Bowl. If his team is throwing slant and flat passes, cultists' heads will explode.
Again, the Bears do not have the talent that Getsy will have at his disposal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 18, 2023, 05:54:07 PM
Again, the Bears do not have the talent that Getsy will have at his disposal.

I was told some middle school teams had better WRs and RBs than the Bear did last season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 05:09:37 AM
Chris Zorich was on The Score yesterday. Apparently Zorich was Warren’s first client when he started an agency (says Warren was his inspiration to go to law school). If Kevin Warren is everything that I’ve heard he is (based on numerous interviews from multiple sources) the Bears hit it out of the park with this hire. Warren seems to know everyone. And everyone speaks glowingly of him.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 05:12:05 AM
Also sounds like Warren’s primary focus will be building the new stadium in AH.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 06:09:09 AM
Again, the Bears do not have the talent that Getsy will have at his disposal.

Getsy looks to be an up and coming coach. Hopefully one day soon be will be fit to carry Kyle Shanahan’s bags.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2023, 08:00:43 AM
Also sounds like Warren’s primary focus will be building the new stadium in AH.

You think?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 19, 2023, 08:25:32 AM
You think?

Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 19, 2023, 08:26:40 AM
Chris Zorich was on The Score yesterday. Apparently Zorich was Warren’s first client when he started an agency (says Warren was his inspiration to go to law school). If Kevin Warren is everything that I’ve heard he is (based on numerous interviews from multiple sources) the Bears hit it out of the park with this hire. Warren seems to know everyone. And everyone speaks glowingly of him.

Serious question:

You listen to The Score a lot. Does it no longer suck?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 09:05:26 AM
You think?

You mean the one you insisted wasn’t going to be built?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 09:12:05 AM
https://www.chicagobears.com/arlington-park/

Hilarious. Plenty of ifs, coulds, mays, maybes, possibles, etc. Weasel words galore.

I do not see how this will happen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 09:13:51 AM
Serious question:

You listen to The Score a lot. Does it no longer suck?

Define “suck.” I’d say sometimes it sucks. Sometimes it’s very good. Got a sports centered media platform you’d define as consistently excellent?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2023, 09:41:11 AM
You mean the one you insisted wasn’t going to be built?
Springfield does not appear receptive at this point and there is legislation preventing "sports teams" from accessing certain funds intended for businesses in the latest spending bill. Not even a word about any money Cook County would kick in.

Really? They hired the guy who got the Viking stadium built (in the same town as the old stadium) to focus on the Arlington Heights stadium. Who knew? LOL.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2023, 09:44:20 AM
Define “suck.” I’d say sometimes it sucks. Sometimes it’s very good. Got a sports centered media platform you’d define as consistently excellent?

For IVMP: "Suck" as in "Temp0's Justin Fields takes and his thinking his Kevin Warren takes are insightful"
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 09:47:37 AM
I do not see how this will happen. Derp. Just trying to extort money from the city. Derp. McCaskeys. Derp. Of course he was hired to build the stadium LOL. Derp.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2023, 09:59:28 AM
I do not see how this will happen. Derp. Just trying to extort money from the city. Derp. McCaskeys. Derp. Of course he was hired to build the stadium LOL. Derp.

Isn't the option to purchase up in March? Ted Phillips just the other day made it sound they were going to exercise the option but that public (tax) money was necessary for the project.

The Wirtzes and Reinsdorf would have had this all figured out already, but the McCaskeys are the McCaskeys.

Not surprised it took you this long to figure out what Kevin Warren's focus would be when it was patently obvious at the time his interviewing was announced. You are so AOTC. Hilarious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 10:02:41 AM
You are a child.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2023, 10:03:26 AM
I see, elsewhere, Parkins discussed being skeptical of Warren on Wednesday. Niw we know the Genesis of Tempo's earth shattering insights on Warren. Hilarious
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2023, 10:05:33 AM
You are a child.

More insight from Mr. Derp aka Mr. Dimwit, Mr. Mult., etc ! What news breaking Parkins' "insights" will you share with us in the next 24 hours? Can't wait.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 19, 2023, 10:06:05 AM
Springfield does not appear receptive at this point and there is legislation preventing "sports teams" from accessing certain funds intended for businesses in the latest spending bill. Not even a word about any money Cook County would kick in.

Really? They hired the guy who got the Viking stadium built (in the same town as the old stadium) to focus on the Arlington Heights stadium. Who knew? LOL.
The stadium that required millions of dollars in repairs shortly after being built ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 19, 2023, 10:26:45 AM
Define “suck.” I’d say sometimes it sucks. Sometimes it’s very good. Got a sports centered media platform you’d define as consistently excellent?

SportsCenter, early 1990s.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 10:31:05 AM
Isn't the option to purchase up in March? Ted Phillips just the other day made it sound they were going to exercise the option but that public (tax) money was necessary for the project.

The Wirtzes and Reinsdorf would have had this all figured out already, but the McCaskeys are the McCaskeys.

Not surprised it took you this long to figure out what Kevin Warren's focus would be when it was patently obvious at the time his interviewing was announced. You are so AOTC. Hilarious.

Yes, despite the fact it’s been no secret the Bears intend to build a stadium in AH, and that Warren was credited with overseeing the construction of the Vikings’ new stadium, I couldn’t possibly have put that together until it was reported yesterday. And here I thought I was just assuring the naysayers who insisted the Bears wouldn’t be building a new stadium that they intend to do just that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 10:32:12 AM
I see, elsewhere, Parkins discussed being skeptical of Warren on Wednesday. Niw we know the Genesis of Tempo's earth shattering insights on Warren. Hilarious

You’re going to have to restructure this post in a way that makes sense or has a point. All I got out of it was “Parkins, derp!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 19, 2023, 10:39:36 AM
The stadium that required millions of dollars in repairs shortly after being built ?

Wasn't there something about birds flying into it and getting killed, or something?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 19, 2023, 10:48:32 AM
Wasn't there something about birds flying into it and getting killed, or something?
Yep, but birds don't count. It's not much different than when the birds fly into the windmills or the whales are dying off of NJ from trying to put windmills in the ocean.
The panels leaked because they tried to do the stadium on the cheap, but they were able to put the repair burden onto the contractor.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 11:16:41 AM
Yep, but birds don't count. It's not much different than when the birds fly into the windmills or the whales are dying off of NJ from trying to put windmills in the ocean.
The panels leaked because they tried to do the stadium on the cheap, but they were able to put the repair burden onto the contractor.

An NFL reporter yesterday said he thought it was the best stadium in the NFL, so not a total failure apparently.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 11:17:26 AM
I’ll sit here and wait for someone to point out which Parkins take on Warren I’m parroting.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2023, 06:18:53 PM
Kinda funny. Peanut Tillman (the prank master) gets pranked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8br5T05a4BA
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2023, 07:11:41 PM
Michael Lombardi on his pod today said Trey Lance was picked by Lynch and Adam Peters  because they thought Shanahan's offense was getting "stale."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 19, 2023, 07:35:26 PM
Kinda funny. Peanut Tillman (the prank master) gets pranked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8br5T05a4BA

Hell of a snag by the blonde. Give her a spot in the receiver room.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 19, 2023, 10:45:08 PM
I got a vial of Satan’s Blood many years ago at a white elephant Christmas. It sat unused in the cabinets above the range hood until I finally threw it away when we moved. It’s pure capsicum extract and can actually be dangerous. They definitely went balls out on this one.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: alum74 on January 20, 2023, 01:59:31 PM
Yep, but birds don't count. It's not much different than when the birds fly into the windmills or the whales are dying off of NJ from trying to put windmills in the ocean.
The panels leaked because they tried to do the stadium on the cheap, but they were able to put the repair burden onto the contractor.

Pecking Order: Energy's Toll on Birds
https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2014/08/22/pecking-order-energys-toll-on-birds

Bottom line: if you want to save the birds and other wildlife, stop using electricity from the grid. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 20, 2023, 02:01:14 PM
Pecking Order: Energy's Toll on Birds
https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2014/08/22/pecking-order-energys-toll-on-birds

Bottom line: stop using electricity from the grid.

Good thing birds are not real.

https://birdsarentreal.com/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 20, 2023, 02:35:14 PM
Good thing birds are not real.

https://birdsarentreal.com/

I see what you did there…

Anybody can find a link to anything that fits their agenda! Just because you link something doesn’t make it true, Alum! Just because YOU find them credible while overlooking a money trail, doesn’t mean we have to!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 20, 2023, 02:37:17 PM
I see what you did there…

Anybody can find a link to anything that fits their agenda! Just because you link something doesn’t make it true, Alum! Just because YOU find them credible while overlooking a money trail, doesn’t mean we have to!

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/justin-fields-best-quarterback-2021-nfl-draft#:~:text=Fields%20has%20led%20the%20rebuilding,run%20for%20over%20140%20yards.

Is Fields the best quarterback from the 2021 NFL draft?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 20, 2023, 02:38:16 PM
I see what you did there…

Anybody can find a link to anything that fits their agenda! Just because you link something doesn’t make it true, Alum! Just because YOU find them credible while overlooking a money trail, doesn’t mean we have to!

https://www.si.com/college/illinois/basketball/illinois-miami-column-underwood-not-the-problem

COLUMN: Illinois Has a Problem But Not A Brad Underwood Problem
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 20, 2023, 02:39:08 PM
Bingo! See this guy 👆🏼 gets it…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 20, 2023, 02:40:40 PM
I could not quickly find a link to something saying that winning the B1G Basketball Title was better than winning the NCAA Tourney...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 21, 2023, 10:24:32 AM
https://beargoggleson.com/2023/01/21/chicago-bears-luke-getsy-senior-bowl/amp/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: NotTempo34 on January 21, 2023, 11:05:39 PM
Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 22, 2023, 11:08:34 AM
Jesus Christ.

Welcome back
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 23, 2023, 10:11:44 PM
I asked the Chatbot whatever the hell it is called, Is Justin Fields a good quarterback?

Here is the answer:

"Justin Fields is a highly rated quarterback in the NFL. He has a strong arm and good mobility, and has shown the ability to make quick decisions and accurate throws. He was a top quarterback prospect in the 2021 NFL Draft, selected by the Chicago Bears as the 11th overall pick. Many analysts believe he has the potential to develop into a franchise quarterback. However, it's worth noting that his professional career is just starting and he has not played in a regular season game yet, so it's too early to make a definitive statement on his overall quality as a quarterback."

Yeah, I'm not worried about the computers taking over anytime soon.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 23, 2023, 10:14:41 PM
So I changed it to Is Justin Fields a good NFL quarterback?

Here is the answer:

"It is difficult to say for certain whether Justin Fields is a good NFL quarterback as he has not yet played in the NFL. However, he has shown potential as a quarterback during his college career at Ohio State and during pre-draft evaluations. Ultimately, his success as a quarterback in the NFL will depend on factors such as his ability to adapt to the pro game, his performance during training camp and the preseason, and his development under the guidance of his coaching staff."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 23, 2023, 10:19:10 PM
Hahaha

Why does Justin Fields suck as an NFL QB?

"I'm sorry, but I don't have any information that suggests Justin Fields "sucks" as an NFL quarterback. In fact, he was a highly-regarded prospect coming out of college and was drafted in the first round by the Chicago Bears in the 2021 NFL Draft. It is too early to make any definitive judgments about his performance as a professional quarterback, as he has not yet had a significant amount of playing time. Additionally, it's not appropriate to make negative comments about someone's performance without any supporting evidence."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 24, 2023, 09:01:49 AM
Now we know where Tempo gets his takes.  Besides from the Score.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 09:22:11 AM
Now we know where Tempo gets his takes.  Besides from the Score.

We do? Where?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 09:23:47 AM
Oh, I guess the chatbot. Whatever that is. I didn’t read PMans dumb posts I’m sure he thinks are clever.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 10:18:51 AM
Oh, I guess the chatbot. Whatever that is. I didn’t read PMans dumb posts I’m sure he thinks are clever.

Chatbot must listen to Parkins too!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 10:27:58 AM
Still waiting on how I mimicked Parkins on Kevin Warren.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 10:32:17 AM
Already was explained. You must not have read the post.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 12:17:15 PM
No it wasn’t.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 12:39:00 PM
No it wasn’t.

Au contraire.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 01:12:38 PM
Au contraire.

Still waiting.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 01:37:03 PM
Still waiting.

Go back and read the thread because I cannot read it for you, Mr. Parkins Parrot. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 01:39:52 PM
Go back and read the thread because I cannot read it for you, Mr. Parkins Parrot.

No. I need you to explain it again. Because you didn’t the first time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 01:43:48 PM
No. I need you to explain it again. Because you didn’t the first time.

It is there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 24, 2023, 01:55:25 PM
It is there.

Temp0 has eyes and cannot see. There's a Latin translation for that, but I can't remember it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 01:57:55 PM
Temp0 has eyes and cannot see. There's a Latin translation for that, but I can't remember it.

Tempo is blind, he cannot see; he ought to wear glasses like DMC.

https://youtu.be/aIRS1f5tikQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 02:41:14 PM
It is there.

No, it isn’t
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 02:42:29 PM
You post more and more like Robb every day.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 03:09:17 PM
You post more and more like Robb every day.

I cannot help that you cannot read or are too lazy to look for the post.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 03:14:02 PM
You even responded to the post.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 05:27:57 PM
You even responded to the post.

Yes, I responded so that you could make better sense of it. The only thing I could get out of it was a “Parkins! Derp!”

You could end this by explaining how I’m parroting Parkins, but I’m highly confident you won’t. Because you never had a point to begin with. Other than “Parkins! Derp!”

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 06:07:13 PM
Yes, I responded so that you could make better sense of it. The only thing I could get out of it was a “Parkins! Derp!”

You could end this by explaining how I’m parroting Parkins, but I’m highly confident you won’t. Because you never had a point to begin with. Other than “Parkins! Derp!”

Uh we are not discussing the same post.

Sorry, can't help you at this point. Stop being lazy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 06:34:35 PM
Uh we are not discussing the same post.

Sorry, can't help you at this point. Stop being lazy.

Told you wouldn’t. Just make this easy and point out how I’m “parroting Danny Parkins on Kevin Warren.” This is an incredibly easy fix. Yet you will not do it (as i said you wouldn’t), because you didn’t have a point to begin with.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 06:44:42 PM
Told you wouldn’t. Just make this easy and point out how I’m “parroting Danny Parkins on Kevin Warren.” This is an incredibly easy fix. Yet you will not do it (as i said you wouldn’t), because you didn’t have a point to begin with.

Who you crappin? All your bad takes are parroting The Score morons.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 06:53:10 PM
Who you crappin? All your bad takes are parroting The Score morons.

I’m giving you the chance to make a good example here. Yet you refuse to do it. You are a memer. You deal in memes. You have no substance.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 06:54:01 PM
Score morons? Parkins? Pick one. You don’t get them all because they don’t all have the same opinions. MemeMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 06:58:02 PM
Score morons? Parkins? Pick one. You don’t get them all because they don’t all have the same opinions. MemeMan.

They all are idiots who suck. Figures you love listening.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 06:58:45 PM
I’m giving you the chance to make a good example here. Yet you refuse to do it. You are a memer. You deal in memes. You have no substance.

Look for it yourself, moron.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 07:54:34 PM
Look for it yourself, moron.

Laydown noted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 07:55:22 PM
They all are idiots who suck. Figures you love listening.

Who gets the PAMan official seal of approval? Dan McNeil?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2023, 07:56:54 PM
Laydown noted.

Yes, your laziness is noted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 07:59:57 PM
Yes, your laziness is noted.

You are a clown. Poor meme generator.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 08:02:47 PM
I see, elsewhere, Parkins discussed being skeptical of Warren on Wednesday. Niw we know the Genesis of Tempo's earth shattering insights on Warren. Hilarious

Can you show me where I was “skeptical” of Warren? I said it was a great hire.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2023, 08:04:10 PM
Chris Zorich was on The Score yesterday. Apparently Zorich was Warren’s first client when he started an agency (says Warren was his inspiration to go to law school). If Kevin Warren is everything that I’ve heard he is (based on numerous interviews from multiple sources) the Bears hit it out of the park with this hire. Warren seems to know everyone. And everyone speaks glowingly of him.

Oh, look. Took me 6 seconds to find a post where I said “it seems they’ve hit it out of the park” with this hire. Now where does that jive with Parkins’ “skepticism?”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 25, 2023, 07:47:59 AM
Lools like you proved the point even as it is clear you fail to understand it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 25, 2023, 08:00:24 AM
🍿
Leftovers from yesterday, lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 12:13:49 PM
Lools like you proved the point even as it is clear you fail to understand it.

Dumbest comment I’ve seen here in eons.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 25, 2023, 12:45:03 PM
Dumbest comment I’ve seen here in eons.

LOL. And Dimwit34 continues to prove the point.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 12:49:08 PM
LOL. And Dimwit34 continues to prove the point.

The point that you are a poor meme generator?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 12:50:35 PM
Again, I’ll wait for you to quote me on the Kevin Warren “skepticism.”’
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 25, 2023, 01:01:37 PM
Again, I’ll wait for you to quote me on the Kevin Warren “skepticism.”’

You really have difficulty processing what you read, don't you? I'd get the kid checked if I were you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 01:57:10 PM
Keep it classy, PAMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 02:03:01 PM
I’ll continue to wait for your proof I was parroting Parkins’ skepticism.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 02:07:16 PM
EVERYONE at The Score SUCKS. EVERYONE at ESPN SUCKS (actually mostly true). EVERYONE not PAMan approved (almost no one except Dan McNei, Hub Arkush, and occasionally Tom Thayer when PAMan misconstrues what he says) SUCKS. Get the EGO on this guy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 02:17:29 PM
So odd to have so much animosity toward so many stations and sports media outlets overall. Captain Meatball stuff here. What’s your huge beef with The (entire) Score, PAMan?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 02:20:12 PM
And is there an actual “PAMan approved” media outlet or personality? This side of Dan McNeil, of course? I’m legitimately curious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 02:21:58 PM
Are you super duper pooper upset they fired Dan McNeil (deservedly)?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 09:21:03 PM
Some good insight from Robert Mays of The Athletic (not sure if PAMan approved) on Kevin Warren, Bears #1 pick, Brock Purdy, Kyle Shanahan, Patrick Mahomes and the playoffs.

https://go.audacy.com/lJf82cBpTwb
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 25, 2023, 09:53:01 PM
Some good insight from Robert Mays of The Athletic (not sure if PAMan approved) on Kevin Warren, Bears #1 pick, Brock Purdy, Kyle Shanahan, Patrick Mahomes and the playoffs.

https://go.audacy.com/lJf82cBpTwb

I’m sure it’s 🔥

Just not sure if that’s dumpster or not.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 25, 2023, 10:09:05 PM
Some good insight from Robert Mays of The Athletic (not sure if PAMan approved) on Kevin Warren, Bears #1 pick, Brock Purdy, Kyle Shanahan, Patrick Mahomes and the playoffs.

https://go.audacy.com/lJf82cBpTwb

Thanks for sharing that. I didn’t click on it.  But thanks anyway.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 10:49:18 PM
Thanks for sharing that. I didn’t click on it.  But thanks anyway.

You’re very welcome. It’s a free country. You just proved it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2023, 10:50:00 PM
I’m sure it’s 

Just not sure if that’s dumpster or not.

It’s there if you want it. If you don’t, it’s still there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 26, 2023, 07:04:14 AM
Crain's reporting a bill has been introduced in Springfield that would allow for tax breaks for the Bear Arlington Heights move. Subscription only. Only saw the 1st paragraph so that's all I got. Kevin Warren's focus on the stadium already paying dividends!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on January 26, 2023, 09:35:51 AM
So odd to have so much animosity toward so many stations and sports media outlets overall. Captain Meatball stuff here. What’s your huge beef with The (entire) Score, PAMan?

That station appeals to you because it's devolved into people making hot takes over and over until it becomes an echo chamber of the dumbest thoughts imaginable.

You then recycle those thoughts and regurgitate them here. Lucky us.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 26, 2023, 10:24:40 AM
That station appeals to you because it's devolved into people making hot takes over and over until it becomes an echo chamber of the dumbest thoughts imaginable.

You then recycle those thoughts and regurgitate them here. Lucky us.

Lol ok
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 26, 2023, 11:17:27 AM
That station appeals to you because it's devolved into people making hot takes over and over until it becomes an echo chamber of the dumbest thoughts imaginable.

You then recycle those thoughts and regurgitate them here. Lucky us.

Yes, we are so lucky that we have Tempo here to post the thoughts of the various Score stiffs so that we don't have to listen to them ourselves. It is so awesome.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 26, 2023, 11:21:58 AM
Yes, we are so lucky that we have Tempo here to post the thoughts of the various Score stiffs so that we don't have to listen to them ourselves. It is so awesome.

It's great.  I don't have to listen to the Score or look at Twitter, or even really watch the news at all.  This place is a one stop shop for all of that shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 26, 2023, 11:54:51 AM
It's great.  I don't have to listen to the Score or look at Twitter, or even really watch the news at all.  This place is a one stop shop for all of that shit.

Hopefully this is parody.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 26, 2023, 11:55:53 AM
Yes, we are so lucky that we have Tempo here to post the thoughts of the various Score stiffs so that we don't have to listen to them ourselves. It is so awesome.

Unfortunately this is not parody. Or intended parody, anyway.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 26, 2023, 12:50:26 PM
Hopefully this is parody.

Of course it is.  I tried laying it on pretty thick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 26, 2023, 01:07:44 PM
Of course it is.  I tried laying it on pretty thick.

That was my hunch.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 26, 2023, 03:11:13 PM
Unfortunately this is not parody. Or intended parody, anyway.

It's high comedy I you ask me
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Cockpuppet on January 26, 2023, 07:19:14 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/how-teven-jenkins-found-peace-wake-call-season-bears?amp
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Cockpuppet on January 26, 2023, 07:19:38 PM
It's high comedy I you ask me

Like when a movie is unintentionally funny. Split pea soup!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2023, 11:20:09 AM
It's great.  I don't have to listen to the Score or look at Twitter, or even really watch the news at all.  This place is a one stop shop for all of that shit.

HQ2 is a fantastic aggregator.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Cockpuppet on January 27, 2023, 06:03:51 PM
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/platform/amp/2023/1/27/23567823/chicago-bears-2023-nfl-draft-analyzing-luke-getsy-senior-bowl-defensive-roster-scouting-reports
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Cockpuppet on January 30, 2023, 04:02:27 PM
Pat Mahomes Sr was just on with Parkins and Spiegel and he said that the Bears told Patrick Mahomes they would draft him with the 3rd pick. Said Patrick fully expected to be a Bear. SMH
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 30, 2023, 05:19:04 PM
Pat Mahomes Sr was just on with Parkins and Spiegel and he said that the Bears told Patrick Mahomes they would draft him with the 3rd pick. Said Patrick fully expected to be a Bear. SMH

Wow.

Warren Sapp apparently going around saying he is hearing the Bear is trading JFC. You see any of that out there?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 30, 2023, 05:24:24 PM
I write the post above and The Google gives me this to read...

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/warren-sapps-justin-fields-trade-rumor-only-start-bears-offseason-circus
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Cockpuppet on January 30, 2023, 05:44:50 PM
Wow.

Warren Sapp apparently going around saying he is hearing the Bear is trading JFC. You see any of that out there?

I’m curious as to why Warren Sapp would be dialed into the Bears’ doings more than anyone else?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 30, 2023, 05:54:51 PM
Pat Mahomes Sr was just on with Parkins and Spiegel and he said that the Bears told Patrick Mahomes they would draft him with the 3rd pick. Said Patrick fully expected to be a Bear. SMH

Lucky for him he was drafted by a competent organization with a great coach.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 30, 2023, 06:09:40 PM
I’m curious as to why Warren Sapp would be dialed into the Bears’ doings more than anyone else?

If he heard it from someone, that person would purportedly be more dialed into the Bears' doings. Anyone he has ties to in the organization?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Cockpuppet on January 30, 2023, 07:18:12 PM
If he heard it from someone, that person would purportedly be more dialed into the Bears' doings. Anyone he has ties to in the organization?

Can’t think of anyone obvious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Cockpuppet on January 30, 2023, 07:18:59 PM
Lucky for him he was drafted by a competent organization with a great coach.

Mahomes loves him some Matt Nagy, though. He’s said as much.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Cockpuppet on January 30, 2023, 07:19:29 PM
Would be interesting to see if Mahomes might have saved Fox’s job.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 30, 2023, 10:56:33 PM
Would be interesting to see if Mahomes might have saved Fox’s job.

Fox was hired to be fired. A symbol of giving a shit after the Trestman fiasco while they tried to prop up other deficient areas of the organization.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ScoreListener on February 03, 2023, 02:13:24 PM
https://youtu.be/uXsfJvdE84c
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 04, 2023, 09:21:00 PM
Luke Getsy’s squad gets smoked in the Senior Bowl. Hopefully he got some good intel on a player that can help the team.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 06, 2023, 05:56:19 PM
Keenan Allen a likely cut candidate according to this source (which I’m guessing is a Chargers reporter).

https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/10vcuo3/keenan_allen_potentially_available/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 07, 2023, 11:49:55 AM
https://www.facebook.com/60098543542/posts/pfbid02EMcbGSFzKJNq1umA6W1dbtUTyTsQvUcEGXfGrnwuiHXHXaXg6EVY8Fu462s3HyPkl/?mibextid=cr9u03

Nagy: “I failed in a lot of areas.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on February 07, 2023, 11:58:19 AM
Good that he's willing to admit it, even though it's obvious.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 07, 2023, 12:17:32 PM
Good that he's willing to admit it, even though it's obvious.

True. First time I’ve listened to him in 3 years without wanting to throw up. Even though I have about 4x this morning. Full interview here.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/matt-nagy-revealed-his-biggest-regret-about-failed-bears-tenure/?amp
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on February 07, 2023, 12:42:35 PM
Gross
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 07, 2023, 01:46:44 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/matt-nagy-reflects-disastrous-first-justin-fields-start-vs-browns?amp
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 07, 2023, 07:48:21 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/rob-gronkowski-certain-beast-justin-fields-franchise-qb-bears?amp
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 09, 2023, 12:53:37 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/roberto-garza-believes-bears-have-franchise-player-fields?amp
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 09, 2023, 02:17:09 PM
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/2/9/23593131/super-bowl-bears-justin-fields-charles-tillman-hopes-see-more-throwing-less-running-brian-urlacher

“Hopefully in this next season he’ll do a little bit more throwing, less running. Have more options at receiving, running back, tight end. Use those skill players.”

Former Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher, a Pro Football Hall of Famer, wants the same for the quarterback.

“He’s explosive,” he said. “I’d like to see him throw the ball. I’m sure he was handicapped a little bit by protection. The receivers weren’t there. The guy’s explosive, makes a lot of plays in the run game, but I want to see him throw the ball better. With more veterans around him, I think he’ll be better.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 09, 2023, 06:08:08 PM
This is the ultimate kiss of death. Just trade him now.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/matt-nagy-says-bears-qb-justin-fields-without-a-doubt-will-play-in-a-super-bowl-during-his-career/

Matt Nagy says Bears QB Justin Fields 'without a doubt' will play in a Super Bowl during his career

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 09, 2023, 09:47:52 PM
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/2/9/23593131/super-bowl-bears-justin-fields-charles-tillman-hopes-see-more-throwing-less-running-brian-urlacher

“Hopefully in this next season he’ll do a little bit more throwing, less running. Have more options at receiving, running back, tight end. Use those skill players.”

Former Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher, a Pro Football Hall of Famer, wants the same for the quarterback.

“He’s explosive,” he said. “I’d like to see him throw the ball. I’m sure he was handicapped a little bit by protection. The receivers weren’t there. The guy’s explosive, makes a lot of plays in the run game, but I want to see him throw the ball better. With more veterans around him, I think he’ll be better.”

Did you comprehend all of what he said, or just the parts you like?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 10, 2023, 10:08:03 AM
This is a good story.

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/09/kyle-long-nearly-quit-bears-at-halftime-vs-raiders-following-blowup-with-matt-nagy-in-2019/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR20Y2zhRDL2aT-9oKKa4tfHHkt_alDg5dbCy-kPn56A_C6XttdihM20ss8&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 11, 2023, 11:57:51 AM
https://www.nfl.com/news/commanders-head-coach-ron-rivera-non-committal-to-picking-up-de-chase-young-s-fi

Still only 23 years old.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on February 11, 2023, 12:00:18 PM
https://www.nfl.com/news/commanders-head-coach-ron-rivera-non-committal-to-picking-up-de-chase-young-s-fi

Still only 23 years old.

Why is this in the Bears 2023 thread? Another looming free agent who might sign with the Bears?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 11, 2023, 01:03:28 PM
Sage Rosenfels spewing a lot of reasonableness.

https://youtu.be/VBarxZDys9U
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on February 11, 2023, 02:43:54 PM
Because no one knows mobile QBs like Sage Rosenfels.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 12, 2023, 12:31:21 AM
Hopefully Fields is already working his butt off instead of reading these fluff pieces.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on February 14, 2023, 10:29:41 AM
Hopefully Fields is already working his butt off instead of reading these fluff pieces.

Will he do the Rocky drill where he's doing sit-ups and someone punches him in the stomach a couple of times?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 14, 2023, 09:19:21 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-mvp-odds-picks-patrick-mahomes-early-favorite-to-go-back-to-back-justin-fields-valued-sleeper/?fbclid=IwAR0OQYMGLQlAB-ZHNSz2tvg2s1iDIIuWGMphSc-jlq4Ayb6NgrJ2FZd7mPc&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 14, 2023, 09:27:03 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-mvp-odds-picks-patrick-mahomes-early-favorite-to-go-back-to-back-justin-fields-valued-sleeper/?fbclid=IwAR0OQYMGLQlAB-ZHNSz2tvg2s1iDIIuWGMphSc-jlq4Ayb6NgrJ2FZd7mPc&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Remember when "MVP Mitch," as Michael Lombardi called him when on The Score, was a sleeper MVP pick?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 15, 2023, 03:08:14 PM
The Bears are now the official owners of Arlington Park
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 15, 2023, 03:29:43 PM
The Bears are now the official owners of Arlington Park

Yeah, there’s no way they don’t build a new stadium there or stay in Chicago. It’s a done deal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 15, 2023, 04:35:53 PM
Yeah, there’s no way they don’t build a new stadium there or stay in Chicago. It’s a done deal.

You might want to read the press release where they concede it is not a done deal. Pritzker also said this week that state money was not going to be used.

That being said, had discussions about this last weekend. Of course none of the "Yeah, this is a done deal!" people could tell me what "Chicago" was going to get out of this. I did come up with "pension relief." If the state pays off Chicago's pension bills, yeah, this is happening.

What do people think "Chicago" is going to get out of this for legislators to go along with this?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 15, 2023, 04:37:32 PM
I’m guessing it’s posturing by both sides. Would be quite surprised if a stadium isn’t built there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 15, 2023, 04:38:39 PM
One way or another they will build a new stadium in Arlington Heights. Take it to the bank.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on February 15, 2023, 11:18:09 PM
Meh. Wherever you go, there you are.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 16, 2023, 10:24:20 AM
https://www.nfl.com/_amp/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-68-starting-quarterbacks-from-the-2022-nfl-season
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on February 17, 2023, 12:23:44 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/0VJJZN0/A7-F2-E981-55-AC-45-F3-A52-E-7808504-C4755.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tPCCcf0)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 17, 2023, 12:35:01 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/0VJJZN0/A7-F2-E981-55-AC-45-F3-A52-E-7808504-C4755.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tPCCcf0)

22 oz Dos Equis for $4? Count me in.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on February 17, 2023, 12:49:31 PM
I got the lunch fajitas and barely put a dent in them. Waddled out with box full of food and my check was $16.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 17, 2023, 02:16:51 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/0VJJZN0/A7-F2-E981-55-AC-45-F3-A52-E-7808504-C4755.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tPCCcf0)

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 23, 2023, 12:17:55 PM
Looks like bad news in free agency. I was hoping this guy could be the Bears’ prize free agent signing.

https://dawindycity.com/2023/02/22/chicago-bears-free-agency-payne-franchise-tag/amp/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 23, 2023, 12:21:29 PM
Looks like bad news in free agency. I was hoping this guy could be the Bears’ prize free agent signing.

https://dawindycity.com/2023/02/22/chicago-bears-free-agency-payne-franchise-tag/amp/

Apparently everyone in the Bear front office was BTC in thinking that teams would have the ability to retain their better players. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 23, 2023, 12:34:32 PM
I’m guessing they know the rules on restricted free agents…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 23, 2023, 12:40:28 PM
I’m guessing they know the rules on restricted free agents…

Then hopefully they are not shocked when only crap is not franchised or re-signed.

When are the signings going to start given all the cap room? Aren't we in the legal tampering phase?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 23, 2023, 12:42:52 PM
Then hopefully they are not shocked when only crap is not franchised or re-signed.

When are the signings going to start given all the cap room? Aren't we in the legal tampering phase?

Free agency starts March 15th. I believe they are allowed to talk a couple of days before that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 23, 2023, 12:43:42 PM
Then hopefully they are not shocked when only crap is not franchised or re-signed.

When are the signings going to start given all the cap room? Aren't we in the legal tampering phase?

I’m assuming there will be cap casualties. Everyone can’t keep everyone.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 23, 2023, 12:45:04 PM
Free agency starts March 15th. I believe they are allowed to talk a couple of days before that.

Looks like you are correct.

https://www.marca.com/en/nfl/2023/02/13/63ea0cf5268e3e68548b4579.html

That means another 3 week of all the stupid click bait articles....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 23, 2023, 03:03:12 PM
Tempo, does the shift of Bear Radio to ESPNAM1000 mean you now will be listening to AM1000 rather than The Score?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 23, 2023, 05:10:19 PM
Tempo, does the shift of Bear Radio to ESPNAM1000 mean you now will be listening to AM1000 rather than The Score?

No clue what you’re talking about? The Bears are moving AM1000? Not a fan of their station. Everyone’s voice sounds the same minus JHood and they are very meatbally.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 23, 2023, 05:11:35 PM
But I do sometimes switch to 1000 if The Score is doing a topic that bores me. Which is usually baseball or Bulls.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 23, 2023, 05:12:13 PM
I have a very hard time listening to baseball talk, especially when it’s not baseball season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 23, 2023, 06:57:43 PM
No clue what you’re talking about? The Bears are moving AM1000? Not a fan of their station. Everyone’s voice sounds the same minus JHood and they are very meatbally.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/2/23/23612368/espn-1000-chicago-bears-radio-rights-wbbm-wgn-white-sox-danny-zederman-david-kaplan-waddle-silvy

ESPN 1000 takes Bears’ radio rights Wednesday; full day of programming planned
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 23, 2023, 07:10:04 PM
Might have to give it a listen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 23, 2023, 07:13:13 PM
I actually did call into Bleck and Abdalla a few weeks ago. Can’t even remember why exactly. Lol. I almost never call in. Can’t remember if I’ve ever called in to The Score. Definitely had a lot of texts and emails read though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on February 23, 2023, 09:45:01 PM
Where is JFC most likely to end up?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on February 24, 2023, 10:02:34 AM
Where is JFC most likely to end up?

Guessing he stays with the Bears, but it would be hilarious if the Bears traded him.  Just to see someone's head explode.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 24, 2023, 10:49:01 AM
Guessing he stays with the Bears, but it would be hilarious if the Bears traded him.  Just to see someone's head explode.
You're suggesting a video ?
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 24, 2023, 11:38:34 AM
Guessing he stays with the Bears, but it would be hilarious if the Bears traded him.  Just to see someone's head explode.

He is not going anywhere. Who in their right mind would want him? Maybe the idiots in Atlanta who hired Pace would want him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 24, 2023, 11:42:14 AM
Derp. Derpity derp. Derp.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 24, 2023, 12:41:04 PM
Sam Hurd eligible to play WR. He was released from prison.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on February 24, 2023, 12:44:53 PM
Sam Hurd eligible to play WR. He was released from prison.

Haha, forgot about that dipshit. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 24, 2023, 02:56:59 PM
Holy shit this is funny. Hurd signed a 3 year deal that paid him more per year than EQ St. Brown…in 2011.

Ermagherd 1.25 million for St. Brown!

(https://i.postimg.cc/fy03RSfP/5-AC7694-E-0-EF5-4857-AE18-102-BABC6-C9-FB.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 24, 2023, 09:43:00 PM
Not sure I’m on board with all of it, but makes for interesting read.

https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-path-perfect-offseason-includes-wr-gamble-big-free-agent-swings?fbclid%3DIwAR1aVM6fOlMPd3vzcAdGnrIELJL8O51wK4oJyPpttzgf57z0cwO8Zxmeqzw&h=AT1gof8GqXtmLeCUEQV-VEJq5-2EW4r6v8HkKeyK276_lTGg4OR21dCLmKK0NGSSqWTFVZM9UBygZElrRnzCBWfHDhMeZvXdWfwMaucjYmJupYAzTsVLYZMdUblPRveYhAN3vBDZYaoF&s=1&mibextid=ncKXMA
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2023, 01:56:04 PM
Lulz

(https://i.postimg.cc/mgxgvPm8/75-E74-AFF-928-E-46-B6-95-DA-B917-E084-ED47.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJr48xFM)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 28, 2023, 02:03:35 PM
Lulz

(https://i.postimg.cc/mgxgvPm8/75-E74-AFF-928-E-46-B6-95-DA-B917-E084-ED47.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJr48xFM)

I thought you loved giving $ to blocking WRs?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on February 28, 2023, 02:08:43 PM
Tempo probably liked Michael Clayton (not the movie), who could block downfield but then would catch a whopping two passes for 18 yards in a game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2023, 02:18:26 PM
I thought you loved giving $ to blocking WRs?

I Lulz’d it because you lost your mind over it when I said they like his blocking in the run game. No one expects your #5 WR to be a game changer except for you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2023, 02:19:46 PM
Tempo probably liked Michael Clayton (not the movie), who could block downfield but then would catch a whopping two passes for 18 yards in a game.

As an end of the roster player on a team that needs 35 new players? Sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2023, 02:20:13 PM
And the movie was fine as I recall.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 28, 2023, 10:28:37 PM
Tempo, do you want Kenny Golladay? Is he known as a good blocker?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 28, 2023, 10:42:50 PM
He’s not even a good receiver. No.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 04, 2023, 12:03:44 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02qs7U8CNtaXgE5oRAzBBrhjQXAmzQnT4BtqsSw58du6vVFTF3wPWNWDAgYR29RdVzl&id=104061989632161&mibextid=ncKXMA
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 07, 2023, 07:18:51 PM
Giants sign Daniel Jones to a $160 million dollar deal and tag Saquon. Disappointing, I was dreaming of seeing Saquon and Justin Fields together.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 07, 2023, 10:13:50 PM
Talk that Aaron Rodgers could go to Miami seems to be heating up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2023, 07:29:47 AM
Talk that Aaron Rodgers could go to Miami seems to be heating up.

Lamar non - exclusive tag. He wants to go home to Miami.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2023, 07:31:46 AM
Giants sign Daniel Jones to a $160 million dollar deal and tag Saquon. Disappointing, I was dreaming of seeing Saquon and Justin Fields together.

The Giant are morons. 82m guaranteed to Dan Jones? Who was their competition for his services that was going to pay him that?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2023, 07:43:26 AM
Saw it reported that David Kaplan claimed an NFL coach told him JFC does not have significant trade value as everyone in The League knows he cannot process defenses.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2023, 08:17:55 AM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2023, 09:54:25 AM
Lol

Did you text this to the AM1000 text line?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on March 08, 2023, 10:06:54 AM
I was dreaming of seeing Saquon and Justin Fields together.

You are so fucking weird.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 08, 2023, 10:08:05 AM
Did you text this to the AM1000 text line?

Probably too busy on The Twitter reminding Greg Olsen of his college misogyny.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2023, 10:16:47 AM
You are so fucking weird.

What’s weird about wanting an explosive dual threat running back to pair with Justin Fields? What’s weird is your comment. That’s pretty weird.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2023, 10:17:20 AM
Probably too busy on The Twitter reminding Greg Olsen of his college misogyny.

And PAMan. He’s pretty weird.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on March 08, 2023, 11:26:37 AM
What’s weird about wanting an explosive dual threat running back to pair with Justin Fields? What’s weird is your comment. That’s pretty weird.

Your use of the word "dreaming." I found that a bit odd.

If you're actually "dreaming" about Bears shit, you don't have enough to do.  Which I can actually understand. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 08, 2023, 12:21:29 PM
Your use of the word "dreaming." I found that a bit odd.

If you're actually "dreaming" about Bears shit, you don't have enough to do.  Which I can actually understand.

Sorry your literal interpretation of “dreaming,” was disturbing to you. Wanting? Desiring? Hopeful for? Contemplating? If any of those work for you, feel free to substitute.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2023, 06:08:45 PM
Mecole Hardman tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/mecolehardman4/status/1633898350134083585?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2023, 06:11:12 PM
Mecole Hardman tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/mecolehardman4/status/1633898350134083585?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Does he like to block?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2023, 06:16:08 PM
Does he like to block?

You should ask him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2023, 06:16:32 PM
Eberflus apparently likes receivers that block.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2023, 06:16:59 PM
You should ask him.

I'm not on The Twitter. Can you ask him for me?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2023, 06:17:53 PM
You make a great point, though. Can’t understand why the Bears haven’t been working on adding a difference making WR for one million per year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2023, 06:22:44 PM
You make a great point, though. Can’t understand why the Bears haven’t been working on adding a difference making WR for one million per year.

Heard LaCanfora say that the Raven WR room, combined, earned $5m last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2023, 06:52:50 PM
Heard LaCanfora say that the Raven WR room, combined, earned $5m last year.

Maybe that explains why Lamar sucked last year. Bateman is a 1st rounder and talented. Would be the #1 on the Bears. He was hurt most of the year.

Did he mention the OLine, TEs?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2023, 06:55:56 PM
Maybe that explains why Lamar sucked last year. Bateman is a 1st rounder and talented. Would be the #1 on the Bears.

Did he mention the OLine, TEs?

He mentioned that they don't spend squat on offense and that it was really low compared to everyone else.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2023, 07:00:46 PM
He mentioned that they don't spend squat on offense and that it was really low compared to everyone else.

But they’ve been one of the top 5 drafting teams in the NFL for 20 years.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2023, 07:03:54 PM
But they’ve been one of the top 5 drafting teams in the NFL for 20 years.

Don't know what to tell you. Just repeating what I heard.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2023, 07:04:21 PM
Don't know what to tell you. Just repeating what I heard.

Neat.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 09, 2023, 07:06:02 PM
Neat.

They are hoping he finds a deal somewhere else so they can fleece that team, per LaConfora.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2023, 07:11:30 PM
They are hoping he finds a deal somewhere else so they can fleece that team, per LaConfora.

I have zero doubt.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 09, 2023, 07:12:52 PM
As a Lamar fan, I realized last year that he’s not a reliable passer. Fun to watch, though. Better than most, but I would not give the asking price for him coming off the last two years. Off his MVP year, yes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on March 09, 2023, 09:44:39 PM
As a Lamar fan, I realized last year that he’s not a reliable passer. Fun to watch, though. Better than most, but I would not give the asking price for him coming off the last two years. Off his MVP year, yes.

If you just realized that last year, then something is wrong.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 05:12:30 AM
If you just realized that last year, then something is wrong.

I thought he’d get better over time. Instead he’s regressed. Probably not watching enough film.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 05:12:58 AM
He was a better passer his MVP year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 07:13:55 AM
I thought he’d get better over time. Instead he’s regressed. Probably not watching enough film.

Or did too much of something else that has caused his body to wear down....hmmmmm.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 08:33:30 AM
Or did too much of something else that has caused his body to wear down....hmmmmm.

Ok, now do Jimmy G, Matthew Stafford, and Tua.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 08:34:24 AM
Looks like the Ravens are thrifty on both sides of the ball.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/10/michael-pierce-takes-pay-cut-ravens-gain-cap-space/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 09:57:15 AM
Ok, now do Jimmy G, Matthew Stafford, and Tua.

Same thing.

Chump edit - isn't Stafford's problem his shoulder?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 09:58:54 AM
Looks like the Ravens are thrifty on both sides of the ball.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/10/michael-pierce-takes-pay-cut-ravens-gain-cap-space/

LaConfora did discuss this as the Raven have asked for state $$$ to fix their stadium while not spending what they can for the on field product.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 10:17:40 AM
Tempo and Judy, isn't it a league rule that the NFL owners have to put the guaranteed part of contracts in escrow at the start of the contract? That makes Watson's deal so unique and tough to replicate.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 11:11:09 AM
Same thing.

Chump edit - isn't Stafford's problem his shoulder?

He’s hurt and doesn’t “run,” is the point.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 11:14:09 AM
He’s hurt and doesn’t “run,” is the point.

If it is his shoulder, it could be caused by "throwing" like a pitcher.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:11:21 PM
If it is his shoulder, it could be caused by "throwing" like a pitcher.

In football, it’s almost always from contact. Regardless, quarterbacks get hurt. Even ones that don’t “run.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 01:17:10 PM
In football, it’s almost always from contact.

I do not know about that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:19:15 PM
You rarely hear about Tommy John or “throwing” injuries from quarterbacks. It’s usually from getting driven into the ground. Or maybe you get Purdy’d.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ScoreListener on March 10, 2023, 01:21:18 PM
Has anyone called Halas Hall to let Getsy and Fields know he should watch some tape this year to learn how to read defenses better? This could be an invaluable piece of advice. I wonder if they have a tip line.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 01:21:36 PM
You rarely hear about Tommy John or “throwing” injuries from quarterbacks. It’s usually from getting driven into the ground. Or maybe you get Purdy’d.

We already went through the Tommy John stuff.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:22:59 PM
We already went through the Tommy John stuff.

Come again?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 01:24:12 PM
Has anyone called Halas Hall to let Getsy and Fields know he should watch some tape this year to learn how to read defenses better? This could be an invaluable piece of advice. I wonder if they have a tip line.

I am thinking Getsy may be too busy feeding lines to David Kaplan about how everyone in The League knows Fields' deficiencies in reading defenses.

You would think someone would write that puff piece already though. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 01:25:06 PM
Come again?

We already discussed this exact issue, and players who had the surgery, on this forum.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:37:32 PM
I am thinking Getsy may be too busy feeding lines to David Kaplan about how everyone in The League knows Fields' deficiencies in reading defenses.

You would think someone would write that puff piece already though.

Why would Getsy tell Kaplan that?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:38:12 PM
We already discussed this exact issue, and players who had the surgery, on this forum.

Right, and non-contact throwing injuries rarely happen to QBs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 01:38:23 PM
Why would Getsy tell Kaplan that?

Cover his own ass...you do keep asking here why he would not let Fields throw the ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 01:39:28 PM
Right, and non-contact throwing injuries rarely happen to QBs.

I do not believe a cite was ever provided for that rationale. But, I do not recall there being a large number of players who have had it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:43:56 PM
Cover his own ass...you do keep asking here why he would not let Fields throw the ball.

Conservative defensive coach. Worst front 7 in football. Can’t block (especially on obvious passing downs). Pitiful receiving corps. They were excellent at running the ball. Rookie HC and OC Gee, I wonder what could be some of the reasons they didn’t pass a lot.  Oh, I know. Justin Fields sucks. That’s the only reason.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:46:30 PM
Cover his own ass...you do keep asking here why he would not let Fields throw the ball.

Yes, because in some weird way, telling Kap this somehow saves Getsy. Nice RandomLogicMan stuff, there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:47:12 PM
I do not believe a cite was ever provided for that rationale. But, I do not recall there being a large number of players who have had it.

And you’ve got it wrong. I KNOW why they didn’t throw the ball much. I don’t have to ask. I can problem solve a bit on my own.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 01:48:07 PM
Conservative defensive coach. Worst front 7 in football. Can’t block (especially on obvious passing downs). Pitiful receiving corps. They were excellent at running the ball. Rookie HC and OC Gee, I wonder what could be some of the reasons they didn’t pass a lot.  Oh, I know. Justin Fields sucks. That’s the only reason.

They eschewed passing after what, 7 games of his sucking at passing?  Again, we have been through this.

But we agree, QBs getting tackled is not good for QB health. That would include running and getting tackled.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 01:49:24 PM
And you’ve got it wrong. I KNOW why they didn’t throw the ball much. I don’t have to ask. I can problem solve a bit on my own.

LOL! You have proven over the years that this is completely untrue!

You bust me up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:51:20 PM
They eschewed passing after what, 7 games of his sucking at passing?  Again, we have been through this.

But we agree, QBs getting tackled is not good for QB health. That would include running and getting tackled.

They “eschewed” it way earlier than that. They didn’t even give him a chance to suck before they “eschewed” it. The first game was in a monsoon, and they were running the ball every play down 14 to GB on the road early in the 4th quarter. They did this because they had a super conservative philosophy (and yes, passing game deficiencies, entirely Justin Fields’ fault, or course…).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:52:43 PM
LOL! You have proven over the years that this is completely untrue!

You bust me up.

I’ve been correct on almost all of the big issue stuff. Or at least AOTC.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 01:53:31 PM
I miss the days when you weren’t just a shit poster.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 01:58:32 PM
They “eschewed” it way earlier than that. They didn’t even give him a chance to suck before they “eschewed” it. The first game was in a monsoon, and they were running the ball every play down 14 to GB on the road early in the 4th quarter. They did this because they had a super conservative philosophy (and yes, passing game deficiencies, entirely Justin Fields’ fault, or course…).

Here is the game log:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/4362887/justin-fields

Drop backs to pass not included as a stat.

It was after the trades that the nature of the offense seemingly changed to focus on his running skills, right?

That game against Washington was so putrid.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 01:59:16 PM
I’ve been correct on almost all of the big issue stuff. Or at least AOTC.

LOL!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 02:04:24 PM
I miss the days when you weren’t just a shit poster.

You just do not like being persistently challenged.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 02:15:26 PM
It shifted from the teams’ ability to run to his ability to run. They never threw the ball much. From the get go.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 02:16:27 PM
You just do not like being persistently challenged.

Yes, because we all know I shrink from arguments.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 02:20:56 PM
LOL!

I gained my rep bitching about Weber well before it was fashionable. I was 2 years ahead on Groce. I called for Mike Thomas’ firing a year before it was popular. I was right from day 1 about Beckman. Turns out I may have been right to question Underwood’s coaching chops. I was AOTC on Nagy. I won the Mack Trade debate. Who has a better record here than I do? Probably no one.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 02:23:45 PM
Yes, because we all know I shrink from arguments.

I know. But don't act like you are not a shit poster either.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 02:25:15 PM
I gained my rep bitching about Weber well before it was fashionable. I was 2 years ahead on Groce. I called for Mike Thomas’ firing a year before it was popular. I was right from day 1 about Beckman. Turns out I may have been right to question Underwood’s coaching chops. I was AOTC on Nagy. I won the Mack Trade debate. Who has a better record here than I do? Probably no one.

You forgot Mark Smith. But this is worthy sig material!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 02:29:25 PM
You forgot Mark Smith. But this is worthy sig material!

Mark Smith turned out to be a perfectly fine college basketball player. A superstar? No. Good career? Yes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 10, 2023, 02:33:21 PM
Mark Smith turned out to be a perfectly fine college basketball player. A superstar? No. Good career? Yes.

Not as sexy as the rest of the post. Good call excluding it. Keep it out of the sig.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 10, 2023, 02:34:10 PM
I mean, Mark Smith was no Mark Alstork, TeJon Lucas, or Aaron Jordan (guys he lost minutes to), but he turned out to be OK…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2023, 08:05:33 AM
Lol

Bears Super Bowl odds jump drastically after trade (hint: but still a longshot).

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-super-bowl-odds-jump-after-no-1-pick-trade-panthers
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on March 11, 2023, 08:24:42 AM
I gained my rep bitching about Weber well before it was fashionable. I was 2 years ahead on Groce. I called for Mike Thomas’ firing a year before it was popular. I was right from day 1 about Beckman. Turns out I may have been right to question Underwood’s coaching chops. I was AOTC on Nagy. I won the Mack Trade debate. Who has a better record here than I do? Probably no one.

What was the Mack trade debate again?

I remember thinking when it was announced the Bears had given up quite a bit. Then it looked like a great move in the first season. After that, not as great.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 11, 2023, 02:26:55 PM
Bears get DJ Moore
Rodgers getting pushed out of Green Bay

What a weekend for Bears fans.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2023, 08:27:33 PM
What was the Mack trade debate again?

I remember thinking when it was announced the Bears had given up quite a bit. Then it looked like a great move in the first season. After that, not as great.

Everyone creamed their jeans over getting Mack. I said that it was a risky trade seeing as how you were going all in on an unproven quarterback and a rookie head coach. Everyone told me I was dumb for not loving the trade. Well, we got zero playoff wins out of it, and giving away draft capital put us in a 5+ year hole. I’d say I clearly won the argument.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 11, 2023, 08:33:13 PM
Everyone creamed their jeans over getting Mack. I said that it was a risky trade seeing as how you were going all in on an unproven quarterback and a rookie head coach. Everyone told me I was dumb for not loving the trade. Well, we got zero playoff wins out of it, and giving away draft capital put us in a 5+ year hole. I’d say I clearly won the argument.

Everyone?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 11, 2023, 09:39:57 PM
Everyone?

Almost. I seemed pretty much alone on that island. You did a good job of stoking the flames, but seemed noncommittal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2023, 08:34:45 AM
Almost. I seemed pretty much alone on that island. You did a good job of stoking the flames, but seemed noncommittal.

Uh, I had actually agreed it was a bad trade, especially since the QB sucked.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2023, 10:15:20 AM
Uh, I had actually agreed it was a bad trade, especially since the QB sucked.

I remember you seeming to agree, but doing more instigating of the others than vocalizing displeasure with it. But there’s enough meat on that bone to where I believe you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2023, 08:49:44 PM
This is a weaselly article

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/12/arrival-of-d-j-moore-could-complicate-bears-relationship-with-chase-claypool/

All speculative.  No quotes from anyone.

In theory, yes, Claypool is going to want to get paid and DJ Moore is going to want to tear up that contract after next year, but c'mon.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2023, 09:08:30 PM
Who cares? Getting Moore may be an admission by Poles that he effed up trading for Claypool. If Claypool produces great. Maybe they re-sign him. Maybe they don’t. It would not shock me to see the Bears draft Njigba and be totally prepared to let Claypool skate.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2023, 09:10:37 PM
I don’t see anything wrong with the article.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2023, 09:12:16 PM
Who cares? Getting Moore may be an admission by Poles that he effed up trading for Claypool. If Claypool produces great. Maybe they re-sign him. Maybe they don’t. It would not shock me to see the Bears draft Njigba and be totally prepared to let Claypool skate.

Ok, then.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2023, 09:12:47 PM
I couldn’t for the life of me see redoing Claypool’s deal right now unless Poles really still believes in him and thinks he can get him for cheaper by doing it right away. I don’t know why Claypool would want to restructure his contract coming off the season he had.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 12, 2023, 09:13:55 PM
I couldn’t for the life of me see redoing Claypool’s deal right now unless Poles really still believes in him and thinks he can get him for cheaper by doing it right away. I don’t know why Claypool would want to restructure his contract coming off the season he had.

Maybe to try and get moved so he can go somewhere that he thinks will pay him?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2023, 10:46:13 PM
Saw an interesting poll question on Twitter. Bears have a top _ receiving core right now. I’ll think about it, and answer tomorrow. DJ Moore upgrades it significantly, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 12, 2023, 11:09:19 PM
https://www.footballguys.com/article/2023-justin-fields-is-next
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 07:18:42 AM
Really hope they don’t sign McGlinchey as rumored. He’s coming off a mediocre season (although it’s said he was dealing with a fair serious injury). He’s not even well regarded as a pass blocker.

Orlando Brown makes so much more sense IMO Could slide Braxton Jones over to the right and theoretically you’ve improved two positions with one signing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 11:20:46 AM
Bears said to have reached a deal with TJ, Edwards, linebacker, Philadelphia eagles
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 11:21:32 AM
Apparently he’s from Lake Villa.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 11:41:45 AM
Said to be close on McGlinchey and hard and heavy on Dramont Jones.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 11:42:41 AM
Bears said to have reached a deal with TJ, Edwards, linebacker, Philadelphia eagles

He had a lot of tackles. But they also had a really good front 4 to keep guys off of him. Hopefully he can replicate last season for the Bear.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 11:45:42 AM
He had a lot of tackles. But they also had a really good front 4 to keep guys off of him. Hopefully he can replicate last season for the Bear.

He’s reasonably cheap. About 5-6 million a year. Said to still be in on Okerike too.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 11:57:10 AM
PFF gives the Bears an A+ on the TJ Edwards signing
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 12:17:38 PM
Bears said to have reached a deal with TJ, Edwards, linebacker, Philadelphia eagles

This is a GREAT signing! Absolute steal as said by many!

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1635314673196363776?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 12:23:02 PM
McGlinchey now said to be going to Denver. I for one would be happy. I don’t like the fit here for him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 12:27:07 PM
McGlinchey now said to be going to Denver. I for one would be happy. I don’t like the fit here for him.

I’d take him in that he’s probably gonna be WAY cheaper than Brown. And if we miss in Brown too, then we’re fucked on whiffing on both. Or grotesquely overpaying for him. You absolutely take McGlinchey if you can.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 12:28:18 PM
I’d take him in that he’s probably gonna be WAY cheaper than Brown. And if we miss in Brown too, then we’re fucked on whiffing on both. Or grotesquely overpaying for him. You absolutely take McGlinchey if you can.

Sign Brown then slide Jones over to the right side. Then you’ve upgraded two positions in one signing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 12:28:47 PM
Looks like PAMan weighed in on the Edwards signing.

(https://i.postimg.cc/PqL18SMs/69-B8-CCE3-B17-F-4290-A7-FD-D03-B2-DF1-CBD3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1jsKtf2)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 12:32:00 PM
I’d take him in that he’s probably gonna be WAY cheaper than Brown. And if we miss in Brown too, then we’re fucked on whiffing on both. Or grotesquely overpaying for him. You absolutely take McGlinchey if you can.

From the numbers I heard Brown would only be a few million more per year which in my opinion isn’t a dealbreaker
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 12:33:29 PM
McGlinchey gets 5 years 80 million 50 guaranteed. Wow.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 12:45:29 PM
From the numbers I heard Brown would only be a few million more per year which in my opinion isn’t a dealbreaker

No I’m just saying if you miss both, you’re fucked.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 12:45:49 PM
McGlinchey gets 5 years 80 million 50 guaranteed. Wow.

Yeah… wow! 😬
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 12:47:57 PM
No I’m just saying if you miss both, you’re fucked.

There are other very serviceable tackles out there
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 12:55:13 PM
There are other very serviceable tackles out there

You whiff on the two biggest and best and that’s a fail in my opinion, especially with the cap space we have.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 12:56:42 PM
Hargrave gone too… 😬

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35851419/sources-49ers-bolster-d-line-dt-javon-hargrave
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 01:25:28 PM
No I’m just saying if you miss both, you’re fucked.

McGary or Jawaan Taylor would be very very good signings especially if they are cheaper
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 01:25:37 PM
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2023-free-agent-rankings-offensive-tackles
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 01:27:21 PM
I heard an interview with a San Francisco 49er beat reporter a few days ago, and his review of McGlinchey was less than glowing
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 01:49:25 PM
McGary or Jawaan Taylor would be very very good signings especially if they are cheaper

True. I’d take either at half the cost. But I’d be ok with paying Brown just because we have the money and luxury.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 01:52:25 PM
McGary or Jawaan Taylor would be very very good signings especially if they are cheaper

Wellnever mind…

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35851858/sources-jaguars-ot-jawaan-taylor-chiefs-80m-deal

You ABSOLUTELY go get Brown now at whatever cost in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 01:57:12 PM
Wouldn’t mind the Bears looking into Austin Ekeler either. Of course it can’t be too much we gave up, as it would be a trade.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 02:06:38 PM
Looks like PAMan weighed in on the Edwards signing.

(https://i.postimg.cc/PqL18SMs/69-B8-CCE3-B17-F-4290-A7-FD-D03-B2-DF1-CBD3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1jsKtf2)

And here you have made it sound like I am alone in this sentiment.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 02:19:21 PM
This would be a big upgrade at center if true…

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1635357111658897408?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 02:21:20 PM
Jimmy G off the board,  allegedly
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 02:26:58 PM
Wellnever mind…

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35851858/sources-jaguars-ot-jawaan-taylor-chiefs-80m-deal

You ABSOLUTELY go get Brown now at whatever cost in my opinion.

It’s entirely plausible Poles is setting himself up to trade for a high end LT.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 02:27:46 PM
Just heard TJ Edwards described as a “meatball” Bears fan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 02:28:48 PM
It’s entirely plausible Poles is setting himself up to trade for a high end LT.

I’d be ok with that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 02:55:52 PM
Bears sign Titans guard Nate Davis.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 02:56:55 PM
Just heard TJ Edwards described as a “meatball” Bears fan.

Not Italian beef with giardiniera dropping out of his mouth?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:02:34 PM
Bears sign Titans guard Nate Davis.

Another really good signing. Poles appears to know what he’s doing and isn’t about to overpay for anybody. I kinda like it. Even though it’s somewhat boring, it’s effective.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 03:06:23 PM
Tremaine Edmunds signs with the Bears for a large contract.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:07:36 PM
Tremaine Edmunds signs with the Bears for a large contract.

Basically free money from the Smith trade. Love it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 03:08:38 PM
I’m surprised they’re making so much noise at linebacker.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:09:34 PM
I’m surprised they’re making so much noise at linebacker.

Got 2 for less than the price of 1. I’m all for it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:10:20 PM
And those two drastically make our defense better. Both are young too. Great moves.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 03:10:28 PM
Edmunds gets 4 for 72 with 50 guaranteed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:11:27 PM
Poles definitely knows what he’s doing and one calculated mofo. I like.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 03:16:52 PM
Poles definitely knows what he’s doing and one calculated mofo. I like.

Need D and O linemen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 03:17:35 PM
I’m surprised they’re making so much noise at linebacker.

Need D and O linemen. Just put on repeat and repost....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 03:19:24 PM
Guess they are younger at LB than they would be if they paid Roquan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 03:22:55 PM
All of the FA signings are younger players. I like it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 03:23:35 PM
Guess they are younger at LB than they would be if they paid Roquan.

Essentially they got a much bigger version of Roquan for less money/less commitment and a 2nd rounder.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:24:17 PM
All of the FA signings are younger players. I like it.

And very nice contacts. Edmunds is a big one but a good deal considering what Smith wanted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 03:28:48 PM
Essentially they got a much bigger version of Roquan for less money/less commitment and a 2nd rounder.

Not going to mean much unless they get D linemen, unfortunately.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:29:23 PM
Need D and O linemen.

Nate Davis signing is very underrated. And the two LB’s are a good start on the defense. Definitely need a DT and LT but those could be addressed in draft and/or trade. Will be interesting here on out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 03:30:32 PM
Nate Davis signing is very underrated. And the two LB’s are a good start on the defense. Definitely need a DT and LT but those could be addressed in draft and/or trade. Will be interesting here on out.

What happens to All-Pro Jack Sanborn?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:31:20 PM
Not going to mean much unless they get D linemen, unfortunately.

Get Carter at 9 and I’ll crown Poles GM of the year 😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:31:48 PM
What happens to All-Pro Jack Sanborn?

The scheme calls for 4 LBs…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 03:38:13 PM
The scheme calls for 4 LBs…

I guess I could repeat the question....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:38:30 PM
Guess they are younger at LB than they would be if they paid Roquan.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1635371253396566036?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 03:39:39 PM
Get Carter at 9 and I’ll crown Poles GM of the year 😂

Tempo wants nothing to do with Carter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:42:40 PM
Tempo wants nothing to do with Carter.

I could see that, but IF he falls all the way to 9, you grab that mofo in a heartbeat!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 03:43:40 PM
Not going to mean much unless they get D linemen, unfortunately.

Yeah, I’m really surprised we’ve seen no DL or offensive tackles yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 03:44:16 PM
Tempo wants nothing to do with Carter.

I’d be a lot more open to Carter at 9.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 03:44:57 PM
Having said that, I doubt he falls that far. I’d probably lean Tyree Wilson if both are there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 03:48:10 PM
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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:51:04 PM
Sign Dre’Mont Jones and all will be ok with the DT spot. There might be a reason they’re not though…

Can definitely go a bunch of different directions in the draft.

So a tidbit in Orlando Brown, it appears he might be out because of the scheme the Bears wanna play and he doesn’t fit. I’m ok if that’s the case.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 03:51:42 PM
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+1
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 04:01:22 PM
IDK Brown was good enough to be entrusted with Patrick Mahomes’ blind side 3-4 years and earned high accolades. I’m guessing he can play in just about any scheme. Seeing as how Poles had input into their Oline I’d be surprised if he wasn’t a fit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 04:06:33 PM
IDK Brown was good enough to be entrusted with Patrick Mahomes’ blind side 3-4 years and earned high accolades. I’m guessing he can play in just about any scheme. Seeing as how Poles had input into their Oline I’d be surprised if he wasn’t a fit.

Well there’s obviously a reason the Chiefs are choosing to not resign him…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 04:20:20 PM
Well there’s obviously a reason the Chiefs are choosing to not resign him…

A big one would be they have a 500 million dollar quarterback to pay for.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 04:21:46 PM
TJ Edwards was just on The Score. Sounds like a very likable dude.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 04:24:21 PM
What happens to All-Pro Jack Sanborn?

He’ll either be moved to the Sam or be 2nd team All-Northern Suburbs on the Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 04:25:41 PM
https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1635371253396566036?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

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Ha, I actually fell behind on the read posts. Hadn’t noticed you already shared.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 05:11:14 PM
A big one would be they have a 500 million dollar quarterback to pay for.

Is that why they chose to sign another LT to a massive deal?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 05:39:48 PM
Is that why they chose to sign another LT to a massive deal?!

The signed a guy who’s never played LT to play LT.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 05:40:53 PM
The signed a guy who’s never played LT to play LT.

I know, weird, right?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 05:44:10 PM
It is odd that he (Brown) is considered the top FA OT,and they sign another expensive tackle though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 05:44:54 PM
Wonder what he’s asking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 06:19:23 PM
Wonder what he’s asking.

Significantly more than Taylor. 🚩
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 13, 2023, 06:27:56 PM
Nate Davis is the best signing of the day for me. Keep fixing the goddamn offensive line.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 06:37:55 PM
Really surprised there’s been no OT or DL signed yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 06:52:10 PM
Really surprised there’s been no OT or DL signed yet.

Poles showing he’s not gonna overpay so far.

Again, I like it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 07:29:39 PM
Would love to see a Tackle and a defensive lineman, but this is a pretty good 4 day run any way you slice it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/VLGrK62T/2-A85566-B-DBF0-4-BB1-BE5-E-F519-DA4-B33-B4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVMkxpY4)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 07:32:12 PM
Word is Tunsil from the Texans might be traded. Don’t think we’re players, but instead it appears the Chiefs might be.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 07:38:53 PM
Word is Tunsil from the Texans might be traded. Don’t think we’re players, but instead it appears the Chiefs might be.

Could be why Poles hasn’t pulled the trigger on anyone.

I guess Brown isn’t a good fit because Poles wants more mobile lineman.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 07:39:40 PM
I’ll save PAMan from having to comment: Someone forgot to tell the Justin Fields is still the quarterback.

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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 07:44:44 PM
I’m starting to think Mn is right. We should have gone all in for that extra win against da Lion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 08:02:20 PM
Could be why Poles hasn’t pulled the trigger on anyone.

I guess Brown isn’t a good fit because Poles wants more mobile lineman.

Poles has a ton of flexibility, cap space, and picks to work with. Trades, free agents, and/or draft. It’s quite astonishing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 13, 2023, 08:06:53 PM
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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 08:09:36 PM
I noticed that too. Weird…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 08:47:02 PM
This doesn’t seem excessive. Wonder why the Bears couldn’t get him?

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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 08:47:44 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/h2TcvdW/Screenshot-20230313-200402.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r5X3Jp6)

Yeah, every time I use the photo host it does something weird like that. I can’t explain it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 08:48:12 PM
I use the one custard provided in the basketball forum.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 08:49:00 PM
This doesn’t seem excessive. Wonder why the Bears couldn’t get him?

(https://i.postimg.cc/XvMqpDZN/C24-A13-E5-B94-D-467-D-B9-F2-2-A56-CF665-BE2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bjg4zpcR)

Ok, didn’t do it this time…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 08:52:23 PM
This doesn’t seem excessive. Wonder why the Bears couldn’t get him?

(https://i.postimg.cc/XvMqpDZN/C24-A13-E5-B94-D-467-D-B9-F2-2-A56-CF665-BE2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bjg4zpcR)

Wow that’s a great deal. Bears let that one get away.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on March 13, 2023, 09:20:10 PM
I always look and make sure I delete the little tag that they tack on there sometimes
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 09:25:01 PM
Wow that’s a great deal. Bears let that one get away.

Yeah, I don’t get it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 09:29:11 PM
I guess his PFF grades aren’t spectacular. It’s a strong DL draft. Wouldn’t be surprised to see 3 DLinemen drafted next month. Unless there’s a surprise in store I’m guessing that’s the route he’s taking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 09:34:35 PM
I guess his PFF grades aren’t spectacular. It’s a strong DL draft. Wouldn’t be surprised to see 3 DLinemen drafted next month. Unless there’s a surprise in store I’m guessing that’s the route he’s taking.

At least the Seahawks aren’t gonna go after Carter it appears so it’s very likely he falls to us now at 9. It really would be unbelievable if he was still there. Poles would hit a homerun with him at 9.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 13, 2023, 09:41:15 PM
ThePAMan wanna weigh in on this one?!

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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 10:02:36 PM
At least the Seahawks aren’t gonna go after Carter it appears so it’s very likely he falls to us now at 9. It really would be unbelievable if he was still there. Poles would hit a homerun with him at 9.

Wouldn’t rule out the Seahawks or someone else taking him before 9, but it’s certainly on the table that that happens.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 10:04:04 PM
ThePAMan wanna weigh in on this one?!

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There was plenty of blame to go around. On obvious passing downs Fields was pressured easily and often.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 10:06:12 PM
Thinking about it, shoring up the middle might be the best way to help Fields. Seemed like the breakdowns were often up the middle. And everyone knows you can make even great quarterbacks struggle if you get pressure in their face. The Eagles and Giants did it to Brady in Super Bowls.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 10:13:28 PM
Thinking about it, shoring up the middle might be the best way to help Fields. Seemed like the breakdowns were often up the middle. And everyone knows you can make even great quarterbacks struggle if you get pressure in their face. The Eagles and Giants did it to Brady in Super Bowls.

You are comparing Fields to Brady?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 10:39:52 PM
You are comparing Fields to Brady?

Lol No. But I’m not surprised that’s what you got out of it. I’m saying all quarterbacks struggle or look human when pressured up the middle.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 10:44:21 PM
Lol No. But I’m not surprised that’s what you got out of it. I’m saying all quarterbacks struggle or look human when pressured up the middle.

Just pulling what you used to pull on Spark!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 10:46:03 PM
ThePAMan wanna weigh in on this one?!

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Was. Never. Fields'. Fault. Hopefully he is planning on making quicker reads and getting the ball out. If he doesn't, it is not his fault either. If he does, I'll be happy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 10:54:42 PM
I wonder what Adam Thielen will get in free agency? He’s not really the prototype for Fields, but he could really help bolster the depth and versatility. Probably not what he was a couple of years ago, but dude knows how to get open and catches everything.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 10:55:20 PM
Was. Never. Fields'. Fault. Hopefully he is planning on making quicker reads and getting the ball out. If he doesn't, it is not his fault either. If he does, I'll be happy.

Blah, blah, blah. I doubt it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 11:01:42 PM
If you’re looking for Fields to be a Tom Brady or Drew Brees type passer you’ll likely be disappointed. He’s a big play quarterback and that’s part of what makes him potentially special. Put the proper players and scheme around him, and I’m pretty sure he’ll flourish. He might get better at it, but he’ll likely never be a guy who regularly gets rid of it quickly. And he’d be limiting his upside if he did. He’s a touchdown to checkdown passer. Most quarterbacks don’t have the skill to play that way.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 13, 2023, 11:05:31 PM
Was. Never. Fields'. Fault. Hopefully he is planning on making quicker reads and getting the ball out. If he doesn't, it is not his fault either. If he does, I'll be happy.

I just hope he’s watching film and learning to read defenses. And squatting 600 pounds. Because you can’t be a good quarterback unless you’re squatting 600 pounds.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 13, 2023, 11:06:31 PM
I just hope he’s watching film and learning to read defenses. And squatting 600 pounds. Because you can’t be a good quarterback unless you’re squatting 600 pounds.

Seemed to work for Hurts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 04:51:54 AM
Seemed to work for Hurts.

He did that at Oklahoma. Why wasn’t he good his first two years in the NFL?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 05:03:45 AM
Just pulling what you used to pull on Spark!

Nice try, but not apples to apples.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 05:04:17 AM
Bears sign DE/DT DeMarcus Walker.

https://twitter.com/mattbowen41/status/1635473772793700354?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Looks like a contributor who could be a good economic signing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 05:10:37 AM
From what I’ve found his stats are comparable to Dremont Jones (actually has one more sack), and his PFF grade is 20 points higher. FWIW.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 05:27:40 AM
Would think some extensions for Jaylon Johnson and Kmet are also in the works.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 14, 2023, 08:01:27 AM
He did that at Oklahoma. Why wasn’t he good his first two years in the NFL?

Watching film and reading defenses faster?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 14, 2023, 08:02:09 AM
Bears sign DE/DT DeMarcus Walker.

https://twitter.com/mattbowen41/status/1635473772793700354?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Looks like a contributor who could be a good economic signing.

Is this the dude who is 28?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 10:50:16 AM
I wonder if the plan is to start Nate Davis at RG and shift Jenkins back to Tackle.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 14, 2023, 10:54:40 AM
I wonder if the plan is to start Nate Davis at RG and shift Jenkins back to Tackle.

They need to do something with the O line.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 11:25:12 AM
They need to do something with the O line.

That’s some hard hitting analysis there. Newsletter?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 11:25:41 AM
They need to do something with the O line.

I thought the line wasn’t the problem?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 14, 2023, 11:28:34 AM
I thought the line wasn’t the problem?

Given the QB for the next year, you need 5 All-Pros.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 14, 2023, 11:29:30 AM
That’s some hard hitting analysis there. Newsletter?

Will Caleb be there for them next year in the draft?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 12:43:54 PM
Will Caleb be there for them next year in the draft?

That would be a wonderful situation next year, either way. Particularly if it’s the Carolina pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 04:37:09 PM
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/03/14/nfl-chicago-bears-acing-pivotal-offseason
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 06:22:45 PM
https://clutchpoints.com/texans-news-laremy-tunsil-emoji-tweet-chiefs-bears-trade-rumors
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 06:52:57 PM
Orlando Brown looking for LT money but apparently the league considers him a RT. Still could sign with Bears. I’d guess his dollar amount is dropping by the day.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 07:18:05 PM
https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2023/03/14/matt-eberflus-on-the-bears-offseason-were-not-done/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 07:41:10 PM
Chargers have apparently granted Austin Ekeler permission to seek a trade (not sure why he’d want one). Saw Bears could be interested. Wonder what it would take to get him. Probably not a good fit for the rebuild timeline, but would be awesome to have someone with his talent.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 14, 2023, 08:50:41 PM
Montgomery to the Lions. Tough runner but Herbert made him expendable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 09:05:01 PM
Montgomery to the Lions. Tough runner but Herbert made him expendable.

Herbert is a nice RB, but I don’t envision him as a load back of any sort. He’s a 1 the same way Mooney is a 1 (he’s not) IMO. It might be crazy talk, but I’d be pretty excited to see the Bears take Bijan Robison 1st round (preferably after trading down again). Or maybe Jahmyr Gibbs if he’s there in the 2nd.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 09:39:01 PM
This could be the dreamer (uh oh Jobu) in me, but I’m starting to get the feeling the Bears draft Bijan Robinson. Some people say he’s the best player in the draft. I’d be down with 5+ years of a guy who’s billed as a more physical Saquon Barkley.

There are tons of DLinemen in this draft. They could go back to back 2nd and 3rd round and find good players IMO.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 09:45:26 PM
Would be ideal if they could trade down a few spots and still get him mid 1st.

Really sucks we don’t have that high end 2nd round pick. Would have been great to have two top 35 picks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 09:54:03 PM
A playmaking back who excels at receiving would be great to pair with Fields IMO. Would rather draft one, but I’m intrigued.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2023/03/14/hear-me-out-an-austin-ekeler-trade-would-make-a-lot-of-sense-for-the-bears/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 10:10:52 PM
Bears signing Seattle RB Travis Homer. 3rd string caliber back. Good pass catcher. Serviceable player, not starting material. Solid special teamer. 2 years 4.5 million or thereabouts. I’m guessing the Bears draft another RB, just a matter of how high I’m thinking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 10:16:52 PM
Andy Dalton to the Panthers. Hopefully he can throw lots of pick 6s and help the Bears get the #1 pick again next year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 14, 2023, 10:17:40 PM
Then we’d have to put up statues of him and Lovie.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 05:00:37 AM
This is interesting. Fairly believable in my opinion. Just don’t know what you’d get for him at this point. Hopefully you could find a sucker. Probably would be best used as a throw-in in a trade IMO.

Misleading headline in the link

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/chicago-bears-trade-pittsburgh-steelers-chase-claypool
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 15, 2023, 07:48:10 AM
This is interesting. Fairly believable in my opinion. Just don’t know what you’d get for him at this point. Hopefully you could find a sucker. Probably would be best used as a throw-in in a trade IMO.

Misleading headline in the link

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/chicago-bears-trade-pittsburgh-steelers-chase-claypool

Well, it was his fault that the ball was not thrown to him more, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 15, 2023, 07:58:24 AM
Well, it was his fault that the ball was not thrown to him more, right?
Again, he didn't call the plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 15, 2023, 08:04:31 AM
Again, he didn't call the plays.

He should have gotten more wide open on the pass plays that were called. All his fault.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 15, 2023, 08:34:33 AM
This is interesting. Fairly believable in my opinion. Just don’t know what you’d get for him at this point. Hopefully you could find a sucker. Probably would be best used as a throw-in in a trade IMO.

Misleading headline in the link

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/chicago-bears-trade-pittsburgh-steelers-chase-claypool

They’ll definitely see how he does this year before making any decisions. Same with Fields. If neither one perform up to standard, Caleb Williams it is and another WR to fill Claypool spot.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 15, 2023, 08:40:14 AM
Goodness gracious.
It's tank time talk time already ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on March 15, 2023, 08:46:31 AM
Goodness gracious.
It's tank time talk time already ?

For the Panthers, sure. It's never too soon.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 09:03:56 AM
Well, it was his fault that the ball was not thrown to him more, right?

Seeing as how the coaches didn’t put him on the field for prolonged stretches, yes, it appears it was largely his fault.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 09:05:04 AM
He was literally losing snaps to Nkeal Harry, Byron Pringle, and Dante Pettis; so you’re gonna have to bring it better than that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 09:05:46 AM
And oh, your favorite player EQ St. Brown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 15, 2023, 09:06:52 AM
Goodness gracious.
It's tank time talk time already ?

Well we do have the Panthers pick next year and likely a top-5. Paired with our first rounder and capital, it’s very likely if Fields doesn’t perform this year, we have a very good shot at securing Williams somehow with trades if needed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 09:15:38 AM
They’ll definitely see how he does this year before making any decisions. Same with Fields. If neither one perform up to standard, Caleb Williams it is and another WR to fill Claypool spot.

It’s gonna have to go pretty bad for either the Bears or Carolina to get the #1 pick. It’s possible both are top 10 draft picks, but not realistic to think top 1 or 2.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 09:16:57 AM
Well we do have the Panthers pick next year and likely a top-5. Paired with our first rounder and capital, it’s very likely if Fields doesn’t perform this year, we have a very good shot at securing Williams somehow with trades if needed.

I’d sub the word possible for “likely.” The Bears are basically tied with Minnesota as the 2nd team in the NFC North (which is assuming Rodgers moves on). And this isn’t me talking, it’s the odds makers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 09:28:46 AM
Saw a rumor that the Bears are “favorites” to land Miles Sanders. Good player. Has trouble staying healthy. I’d personally rather draft Robinson or Gibbs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 10:09:37 AM
Heard some interesting betting numbers from Joe Ostrowski today. Going off memory here. The Bears are tied with Minnesota as 2nd choice in the division (Lions number 1). The Bears’ Super Bowl odds dropped like 40 points I think it was. Justin Fields’ MVP odds down to 20-1.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on March 15, 2023, 10:53:28 AM
Seeing as how the coaches didn’t put him on the field for prolonged stretches, yes, it appears it was largely his fault.

Whose fault is it that the coaches don’t let JFC throw the ball for prolonged stretches?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 11:00:09 AM
Whose fault is it that the coaches don’t let JFC throw the ball for prolonged stretches?

I’ve gone over the reasons for that many times. There’s no one reason and no one persons’ “fault.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 11:00:47 AM
Whose fault is it that the coaches don’t let JFC throw the ball for prolonged stretches?

I’m gonna bet they throw a good amount more this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 12:12:53 PM
Funny.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR7fFUKN/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 01:24:10 PM
I guess Rodgers to Jets is finally official.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on March 15, 2023, 01:51:38 PM
I’m gonna bet they throw a good amount more this year.

I am watching my recordings from last season, and Fields unleashed a pretty TD pass to Mooney. Of course, no one was within 5 yards of him, and Atlanta had one of the worst Ds in the league. But other than that ...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 01:54:05 PM
I am watching my recordings from last season, and Fields unleashed a pretty TD pass to Mooney. Of course, no one was within 5 yards of him, and Atlanta had one of the worst Ds in the league. But other than that ...

I’m sure that’s the only good pass he threw all year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 06:20:25 PM
Kay Adams asks if the Bears are this years’ Giants. Brandon Marshall says “better!” Personally, I think a surprisingly good year is on the table for the Bears.

https://twitter.com/heykayadams/status/1636121803486818305?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 08:27:09 PM
Hopefully they did squats and watched film before the game.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cxz6N3LT/8271-F867-CB1-B-41-C5-8-F30-9-F543-EA80144.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 15, 2023, 08:43:18 PM
Hopefully they did squats and watched film before the game.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cxz6N3LT/8271-F867-CB1-B-41-C5-8-F30-9-F543-EA80144.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

That’s awesome.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 15, 2023, 08:44:20 PM
Hopefully they did squats and watched film before the game.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cxz6N3LT/8271-F867-CB1-B-41-C5-8-F30-9-F543-EA80144.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

No St. Brown or Velus. Wtf man.  :-[
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 15, 2023, 09:11:19 PM
Hopefully they did squats and watched film before the game.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cxz6N3LT/8271-F867-CB1-B-41-C5-8-F30-9-F543-EA80144.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

This is not the stuff we want for the offseason.

Bear signed a new QB!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 15, 2023, 09:35:48 PM
This is not the stuff we want for the offseason.

Bear signed a new QB!

Doesn't hurt that he already has chemistry with DJ Moore
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 10:05:41 PM
Yep, PJ Walker. Chemistry with Moore. Serviceable backup. He’s no Trevor Siemian but he’ll do.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 15, 2023, 10:06:26 PM
This is not the stuff we want for the offseason.

Bear signed a new QB!

Zero fun allowed! Film study and leg day; all day, every day!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 07:08:36 AM
This is pretty funny. Every time I see a tweet about Justin Fields, there’s 2-3 tweets I’d swear came from PAMan. Lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/gJNHzmbr/F7-FB5-DC2-0450-4-A1-F-B3-DD-4-C152-B6-C0-AEA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zbHgpmB1)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 07:11:00 AM
Thought this one was funny, too.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wBxS0x2j/2-F0-CD55-F-C81-E-4-E24-BC04-B4-D774-E1-B836.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4YML3gjD)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 07:15:37 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZvyQKJr/077-FB2-B5-5-C3-B-4917-8-F54-CC36-EBCBB56-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7fYvp93)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 07:19:39 AM
Seeing a lot of stuff where the Bears could be in on Austin Ekeler. And most of the trade scenarios I’ve seen seem pretty reasonable. A bit older than you’d want, but elite weapon who would be fantastic for Fields’ development. He and Herbert would compliment each other very well IMO.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 07:38:33 AM
Seen packages like 3rd and a 6th, 2nd and a 7th, and just saw one Herbert and a 5th. Those are packages I’d give for a receiving back of his caliber (best in NFL). What an exciting offense that would be.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 16, 2023, 07:43:28 AM
Seen packages like 3rd and a 6th, 2nd and a 7th, and just saw one Herbert and a 5th. Those are packages I’d give for a receiving back of his caliber (best in NFL). What an exciting offense that would be.

One would think that DoctorintheFlat might have something to add to this discussion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: DoctorIntheFlat on March 16, 2023, 07:48:27 AM
One would think that DoctorintheFlat might have something to add to this discussion.

You rang for a house call?

Add Ekeler, sign a veteran possession/red zone guy like Thielen to complement these young guys. Draft Paris Johnson. That has me salivating (definitely not dreaming though).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 09:46:41 AM
Stacey Dales was on The Score (sorry PAMan), couldn’t have spoken more glowingly of Bijan Robinson; on and off the field. Says she thinks he’s the best player in the draft, and that she’d take him at 9 assuming he’s there. I’d be totally down with going all-in on offense. Especially considering this draft is said to be very deep on DL.

Hopeful (but definitely not dreaming of) scenario! Carter is there at 9, Pittsburgh covets him and Poles goes full “Draft Day” and gets his 2nd rounder back. Turning those picks into Robinson and Cancey! A guy can be hopeful (but definitely not dream)!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on March 16, 2023, 10:04:46 AM
Like anyone cares what some woman thinks about football
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 16, 2023, 10:34:08 AM
Poles saying Whitehair is moving back to Center…

https://twitter.com/chicago_nfl/status/1636380991626579970?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on March 16, 2023, 10:35:07 AM
Like anyone cares what some woman thinks about football

Yeah, no shit
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on March 16, 2023, 10:35:50 AM
Poles saying Whitehair is moving back to Center…

https://twitter.com/chicago_nfl/status/1636380991626579970?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Whitehair should move to Whitehair Insurance Agency or Whitehair Quality Used Autos.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 16, 2023, 10:36:28 AM
Great stuff coming out of the Poles presser currently. Dude just gets it and doesn’t shy away from questions. Giving some really good answers to questions we all have. I like it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 11:06:35 AM
Like anyone cares what some woman thinks about football

I wondered who’d be the first to make that comment, and you didn’t disappoint.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 11:07:56 AM
Yeah, no shit

All of the obvious suspects delivering.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 11:11:03 AM
Poles saying Whitehair is moving back to Center…

https://twitter.com/chicago_nfl/status/1636380991626579970?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Not surprised. And perhaps the best move. Doesn’t speak much for the Lucas Patrick signing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on March 16, 2023, 11:21:09 AM
All of the obvious suspects delivering.

Don't forget to pick up Thelma, and take her to the bank.  Oh, and then go get Lisa and take her to the salon.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on March 16, 2023, 01:27:23 PM
Don't forget to pick up Thelma, and take her to the bank.  Oh, and then go get Lisa and take her to the salon.

No reaction to this yet? Is no one else getting it?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 01:57:39 PM
No reaction to this yet? Is no one else getting it?

Yep. It’s hilarious. Particularly if you have the mentality of an 8th grade bully.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on March 16, 2023, 01:59:12 PM
Yep. It’s hilarious.

This
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 02:15:47 PM
This

Yes. It’s funny to you because you have the maturity level of a petty 8th grader.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on March 16, 2023, 02:19:40 PM
Yes. It’s funny to you because you have the maturity level of a petty 8th grader.

If you say so.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 03:10:46 PM
Bears sign DT Andrew Billings. Sounds like the EQ St. Brown of DTs.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/16/bears-sign-defensive-tackle-andrew-billings/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 16, 2023, 04:34:21 PM
Day goes from bad to worse. Simien released
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 04:38:08 PM
Day goes from bad to worse. Simien released

Lock for Bears Hall of Fame, though. He had a great career until the shot wore off.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 16, 2023, 05:06:57 PM
Lock for Bears Hall of Fame, though. He had a great career until the shot wore off.

Was the better QB until the shot wore off and he had to go on IR!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 05:10:41 PM
Was the better QB until the shot wore off and he had to go on IR!

Yep, that pass he threw to the Jets DB that was picked off by Pringle was a dart.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 05:12:28 PM
Who else ‘members when Trevor Siemian threw for 179 yards and put up 10 points against the Jets? I ‘member.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on March 16, 2023, 06:04:58 PM
Bears just signed Tonyan. Hmmm
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 16, 2023, 06:23:00 PM
Six long painful months until the opener. This is all I have sports wise now. The Sox ain’t doing shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 16, 2023, 07:00:25 PM
Signed RB  D"onta Foreman. Hopefully he can block.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 07:51:58 PM
Logical signings if not inspiring (they are not inspiring).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
So this would seem to indicate Poles isn’t taking a RB in the draft. Especially day 1 or 2.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 08:45:37 PM
Signed RB  D"onta Foreman. Hopefully he can block.

He’s a halfway decent back. Clearly not a long-term answer though. He’d be a solid backup. A bit surprised Herbert, Foreman, Homer would be the RB room. All worthy of a roster spot but I’d hope for a bigger hitter in the group. I wouldn’t rule out Herbert getting traded.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 08:47:23 PM
Ha, didn’t know Tonyan is from McHenry. Pretty soon we’ll have an all Northern Illinois (hard to call them burbs) teams
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 08:48:57 PM
Tonyan and Foreman definitely fall into the category of “value signing” that Poles likes to talk about.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 09:02:06 PM
Poles bent them (Panthers) over (more or less) for the 1st pick, now he’s signing their whole offense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 16, 2023, 09:11:07 PM
Poles bent them (Panthers) over (more or less) for the 1st pick, now he’s signing their whole offense.

Did not think they had a dynamic O, but ok.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 10:22:58 PM
Did not think they had a dynamic O, but ok.

IMO they got a dynamic WR, a decent backup QB who seems to be a good fit for the Bears, and a roster worthy backup stop gap quality RB who can start a few games for you if you need him to, but wouldn’t be viewed as a long-term player/starter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 16, 2023, 10:39:22 PM
IMO they got a dynamic WR, a decent backup QB who seems to be a good fit for the Bears, and a roster worthy backup stop gap quality RB who can start a few games for you if you need him to, but wouldn’t be viewed as a long-term player/starter.

So they had a dynamic WR they couldn't get the ball too. Hope he does not feel at home in Chicago
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 10:40:53 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/justin-fields-attracting-free-agents-shows-qb-can-accelerate-bears-rebuild
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 16, 2023, 10:44:05 PM
Just looked over Foreman’s numbers. I knew he wasn’t much of a receiver, but his receiving numbers are very low. Maybe the can package Herbert and a 3rd rounder to LA for Ekeler…then they can have a Herbert/Herbert backfield.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2023, 07:38:18 AM
Tempo, read where the Audacy CEO spoke and talked about how their large market sports yakkers are weighing down the company due to sports team broadcasting contracts.  Dan Bernstein appreciates you listening and supporting The Score's Cub contract with the Ricketts!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IVMP on March 17, 2023, 10:52:03 AM
He’s a halfway decent back. Clearly not a long-term answer though. He’d be a solid backup. A bit surprised Herbert, Foreman, Homer would be the RB room. All worthy of a roster spot but I’d hope for a bigger hitter in the group. I wouldn’t rule out Herbert getting traded.

Temp0 is a big Homer fan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 17, 2023, 12:15:56 PM
Tempo, with a Packer fan who claims I am nuts and the Bear will win "multiple Super Bowls" with Justin Fields at the helm.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2023, 02:16:43 PM
Tempo, with a Packer fan who claims I am nuts and the Bear will win "multiple Super Bowls" with Justin Fields at the helm.

You are nuts. No doubt. Will the Bears win multiple Super Bowls with JFC? Who knows…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 17, 2023, 08:51:12 PM
How is Ngakoue still on the market? I would kick me some tires on Clowney. Can only imagine he’d be relatively cheap.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 18, 2023, 09:36:55 AM
How/why did this thread get pinned?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 18, 2023, 10:38:43 AM
Temp0 is a big Homer fan.

No, I’m a big fan of drafting Robinson or Gibbs from Alabama. Or trading for Austin Ekeler if the cost is reasonable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 19, 2023, 11:09:19 AM
Yeah no thanks…

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35895381/texans-reach-75m-extension-lt-laremy-tunsil-source-says
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 19, 2023, 11:34:54 AM
Yeah no thanks…

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35895381/texans-reach-75m-extension-lt-laremy-tunsil-source-says

Not cheap by any means, but when you consider McGlinchey got 50 mil guaranteed doesn’t seem that out of whack for a top 5 LT.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 19, 2023, 03:12:22 PM
Not cheap by any means, but when you consider McGlinchey got 50 mil guaranteed doesn’t seem that out of whack for a top 5 LT.

I’m just saying I’m glad the Bears didn’t pay that for him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 19, 2023, 05:22:13 PM
I’m just saying I’m glad the Bears didn’t pay that for him.

I wouldn’t be upset about it. The OLine would be improved dramatically, then you could theoretically go with a luxury pick in the 1st round like RB or WR. Then load up on DL 2nd and 3rd rounds
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 29, 2023, 05:41:27 PM
Hey guys, 210 pages (not including the 2.0 thread) later PAMan says he “expects Fields to pull it together.” PAMan is nothing if not “consistent!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 05:51:26 PM
Hey guys, 210 pages (not including the 2.0 thread) later PAMan says he “expects Fields to pull it together.” PAMan is nothing if not “consistent!”

I also expected him to not completely suck as a passer. His performance has been subpar and unacceptable. I expect him to be better. I am not holding my breath.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 29, 2023, 05:54:19 PM
Why would you “expect” him to get better if you “know” he won’t?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 05:58:42 PM
Why would you “expect” him to get better if you “know” he won’t?

Because he has been so bad as a passer, he has to get better. Even if he does not wind up as a replacement level passing QB, he has to get better.

I know there is always a chance he figures it out, too. I'm skeptical, but it would be far more enjoyable watching the Bear if he did.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 06:00:32 PM
Now, I know you have said he is not a finished product. Do you believe his overall play has met your expectations as the 11th pick in the draft?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 29, 2023, 06:29:33 PM
Now, I know you have said he is not a finished product. Do you believe his overall play has met your expectations as the 11th pick in the draft?

I think his performance has been up and down, but was reasonably strong last year. I think he’s had probably the least support of any young QB in recent memory. He had to play under the crazily dysfunctional Nagy and Pace, then had to learn a new system in his 2nd year while the team was literally being torn down around him. Considering all that, I thought his performance was pretty admirable. As I’ve said, 250x he’s not a finished product as a passer, and needs to get better.

I literally said “how about we wait to call him a failure until we’ve seen what he does with more help (at least 10x)?” You quickly, loudly, and repeatedly shot that down. And now you want to say “I expect him to pull it together,” as if you’ve been “consistent” or fair on Justin Fields all along. It’s a huge load of mularkey.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 06:54:12 PM
I think his performance has been up and down, but was reasonably strong last year. I think he’s had probably the least support of any young QB in recent memory. He had to play under the crazily dysfunctional Nagy and Pace, then had to learn a new system in his 2nd year while the team was literally being torn down around him. Considering all that, I thought his performance was pretty admirable. As I’ve said, 250x he’s not a finished product as a passer, and needs to get better.

I literally said “how about we wait to call him a failure until we’ve seen what he does with more help (at least 10x)?” You quickly, loudly, and repeatedly shot that down. And now you want to say “I expect him to pull it together,” as if you’ve been “consistent” or fair on Justin Fields all along. It’s a huge load of mularkey.

Your inability to understand concepts is actually quite impressive, in a bizarro sense.

You would also be a perfect school teacher in this day and age of no homework, no failing grades, etc.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 29, 2023, 06:56:56 PM
Your inability to understand concepts is actually quite impressive, in a bizarro sense.

You would also be a perfect school teacher in this day and age of no homework, no failing grades, etc.

I’m really shocked you’re not a Trumper. You think and talk a lot like one.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 29, 2023, 06:58:17 PM
“I know he sucks and is hopeless. But I expect him to pull it together.” Talk about bizarro logic
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 07:10:14 PM
I’m really shocked you’re not a Trumper. You think and talk a lot like one.

And your grading of the 29th QB in the listing you provided was something else.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 07:11:39 PM
“I know he sucks and is hopeless. But I expect him to pull it together.” Talk about bizarro logic

More of your nuanced and layered thinking on display here. LOL.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 08:01:20 PM
OB and Hamp happy Rodgers gone and the Bear have an easy schedule. They think the door is opening for the Bear if Eberlose and Getsy can get their act together!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 08:26:34 PM
Hamp names 4 top QBs (Mahomes, Burrow, Allen and Herbery) and asks OB which of the other league QBs OB would trade Fields for...OB starts going down the list of every other teams' QBs....including Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, Mac Jones, Hurts. Hamp claims Hurts has had everything handed to him and takes issue with OB. OB asks, why did you bother asking my opinion on who I would trade him for then?

Good stuff.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 08:26:59 PM
Hamp predicts Bear will go undefeated at home this season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on April 29, 2023, 08:34:55 PM
Who is OB and Hamp?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 08:37:22 PM
Who is OB and Hamp?

Ed O'Bradovich and Dan Hampton.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 08:37:48 PM
Whitehair says he is going to play C
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on April 29, 2023, 08:38:56 PM
Whitehair is actually a decent Center.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on April 29, 2023, 08:40:35 PM
Ed O'Bradovich and Dan Hampton.

Thanks. What’s their channel? Show? Station?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 29, 2023, 08:48:07 PM
Thanks. What’s their channel? Show? Station?

They are on WGN. They pod the show after it airs. Draft special just showed up in my pod feed so I listened.

Called Hamp & OB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 30, 2023, 03:06:35 AM
Hamp predicts Bear will go undefeated at home this season.

Seems optimistic, but I think 6-2 could be doable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 30, 2023, 03:08:42 AM
Hamp names 4 top QBs (Mahomes, Burrow, Allen and Herbery) and asks OB which of the other league QBs OB would trade Fields for...OB starts going down the list of every other teams' QBs....including Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, Mac Jones, Hurts. Hamp claims Hurts has had everything handed to him and takes issue with OB. OB asks, why did you bother asking my opinion on who I would trade him for then?

Good stuff.

You should have called in and told Hampton about Hurts' squats.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 30, 2023, 03:10:22 AM
Whitehair is actually a decent Center.

He's a better guard though. Minor quibble I have about the draft is we did not get a Center.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 30, 2023, 02:56:36 PM
A few intriguing names.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10074110-10-nfl-free-agents-who-can-fill-remaining-holes-after-2023-draft
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ridingthegrange on June 16, 2023, 05:09:02 PM
I disagree.  While I like the fact that they're willing to trade some picks for proven players, I think he's the wrong guy.  He's unhappy in Pittsburgh because not enough targets.  Don't think he'll see more here.  Why do you think the Steelers drafted Pickens? He's a problem for the locker room and off the field as well.  Fields needs help but I'm not sure how much this will help.


There were a few of us who didn't like the Claypool pickup.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on June 16, 2023, 06:46:17 PM

There were a few of us who didn't like the Claypool pickup.

Didn’t like the trade, especially at the price (which at the time looked to be about the 40th pick); but understood why they would make the trade. I said it the day they got him he’s a known knucklehead (not a troublemaker, but more of a half-wit).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on June 19, 2023, 10:03:56 AM
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/6/19/23762930/new-stadium-tougher-chicago-bears

Interesting article. No clue how accurate it may be on the numbers, etc
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on June 19, 2023, 11:45:43 AM
Arlington Heights is the overwhelming favorite.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on June 19, 2023, 11:48:32 AM
Arlington Heights is the overwhelming favorite.

Yes I think they still find a way to make that work. Invested too much already.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on June 19, 2023, 12:10:25 PM
Jordan Love apparently not the smartest.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NMk8r4gT/7945-E093-29-E5-44-B3-90-D6-37-C87-C6-A21-C0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tZ7nKFnC)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on June 19, 2023, 12:27:49 PM
Guess this reporter didn’t hear Adam Hoge’s reports about 7 on 7 drills.

No real surprises here. Don’t think the Gordon thing is a bad thing. Never a bad thing to have rookies looking the part. Gordon is young, I think he’ll be fine, if not a “difference maker.”

https://beargoggleson.com/posts/fallers-chicago-bears-offseason-program/4
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on June 20, 2023, 11:12:51 AM
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/what-we-learned-about-justin-fields-bears-during-offseason-program/490376/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 20, 2023, 10:45:37 PM
Maybe the Bear can get this receiver.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38042993/vikings-rookie-jordan-addison-cited-going-140-55-mph-zone
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on July 21, 2023, 07:11:01 AM
Maybe the Bear can get this receiver.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38042993/vikings-rookie-jordan-addison-cited-going-140-55-mph-zone
He may not have a valid drivers license for 6 months.
He should have Ubered it wherever he was going. 🤡
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 21, 2023, 08:17:20 AM
I thought this was interesting even outside the Justin Fields take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ougJV957ho
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 22, 2023, 10:59:20 AM
All-time click bait headline here. I fell for it. “Bears receive lower Madden scores at LB.” lol

https://www.chicitysports.com/nfl-news-chicago-bears-downgrade-linebacker/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 23, 2023, 04:58:08 PM
Claypool on the PUP list for training camp. D'oh.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on July 23, 2023, 05:34:18 PM
Claypool on the PUP list for training camp. D'oh.
Did he pull a hammy trying to catch one of those perfect passes I keep hearing about ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 24, 2023, 10:28:25 AM
Did he pull a hammy trying to catch one of those perfect passes I keep hearing about ?

Lol 🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 24, 2023, 10:35:53 AM
Probably injured himself while walking the runway.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ridingthegrange on July 24, 2023, 01:52:41 PM
Claypool on the PUP list for training camp. D'oh.

Addition by subtraction.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 24, 2023, 06:18:30 PM
Claypool removed from the PUP list. This whole thing is so weird. Poles needs to do some explaining tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 24, 2023, 07:28:13 PM
Claypool removed from the PUP list. This whole thing is so weird. Poles needs to do some explaining tomorrow.

I'm sure The Score guys will try and fit it during Bash NU Talk. Tho, I'm fine with them bashing NU.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 25, 2023, 05:26:14 PM
https://ontapsportsnet.com/bears/justin-fields-turned-down-opportunity-to-appear-on-season-2-of-netflixs-quarterback-chicago-bears
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 25, 2023, 05:31:01 PM
As voted on by the players, Fields makes NFLs top 100 players. Ahead of Trevor Lawrence.

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/25/nfl-players-explain-why-bears-justin-fields-is-top-100-player-2023-season/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 27, 2023, 02:53:27 PM
https://twitter.com/chicagobears/status/1684316262044770305?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 27, 2023, 04:38:28 PM
https://twitter.com/chicagobears/status/1684316262044770305?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Looked at him the whole time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on July 27, 2023, 04:52:35 PM
Nice push off.

https://twitter.com/DeeksViewOG/status/1684297754544152581/mediaviewer
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 27, 2023, 05:54:39 PM
Looked at him the whole time.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 27, 2023, 05:56:06 PM
https://twitter.com/dave_bfr/status/1684681689140760577?t=QKo0CXkWyY4MqgViwgrOkQ&s=19
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on July 27, 2023, 10:25:54 PM
Kinda looking forward to seeing the in-season debates about how JFC is doing. Kinda.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 28, 2023, 06:57:47 AM
Kinda looking forward to seeing the in-season debates about how JFC is doing. Kinda.

Hopefully there is no debate and Tempo can take an "I was AOTC" victory lap and The Roselle Trophy is back in Chicago.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on July 28, 2023, 09:55:16 AM
It would be fun to have a decent team.

Go JFC, go!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 28, 2023, 10:45:02 AM
Kinda looking forward to seeing the in-season debates about how JFC is doing. Kinda.

Gotta admit. It’s about 90% of the reason I still post here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 28, 2023, 01:35:16 PM
Ima see if I can find a JFC to DJ Moore clip for Mn.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 28, 2023, 02:08:40 PM
https://twitter.com/jrs_rankings/status/1684991389900140555?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 28, 2023, 02:11:09 PM
No video for Mn unfortunately.

(https://i.postimg.cc/W440Dkvh/94880-D3-E-D666-4-D6-D-A43-B-CA26-D13-A2142.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tsLsw77j)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on July 28, 2023, 02:39:04 PM
I don’t think anybody is saying Fields can’t throw. I think the problem is him processing defenses and coverages fast enough to make those throws on time and not holding onto the ball too long. He showed at O$U that when his players are open he can hit them. When the competition is just as good though and the game is faster in the NFL is where he’s struggled to process it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 28, 2023, 02:53:27 PM
I don’t think anybody is saying Fields can’t throw. I think the problem is him processing defenses and coverages fast enough to make those throws on time and not holding onto the ball too long. He showed at O$U that when his players are open he can hit them. When the competition is just as good though and the game is faster in the NFL is where he’s struggled to process it.

It’s almost as if the vast majority of young quarterbacks struggle with this their first couple of years in the NFL. Particularly those who play on shit teams.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 28, 2023, 09:18:48 PM
Claypool among day 3 standouts.

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-training-camp-day-3-standouts-justin-fields-tj-edwards-chase-claypool/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 29, 2023, 02:24:41 PM
https://twitter.com/raygque/status/1685330222319554560?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 29, 2023, 02:31:19 PM
https://twitter.com/deeksviewog/status/1685359667642265600?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 29, 2023, 02:35:05 PM
https://twitter.com/courtneyrcronin/status/1685356373289132032?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 29, 2023, 04:10:26 PM
Tempo, can you post The Thread equivalents of these The Tweets or whatever they are called for us people on The Threads?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 29, 2023, 10:08:52 PM
Tempo, can you post The Thread equivalents of these The Tweets or whatever they are called for us people on The Threads?

Wuh? I don’t understand what you’re asking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 30, 2023, 07:38:23 AM
Wuh? I don’t understand what you’re asking.

For people on The Threads instead of The Twitter. Can you post the The Threads version of those The Tweets? You are on The Threads, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on July 30, 2023, 08:41:43 AM
For people on The Threads instead of The Twitter. Can you post the The Threads version of those The Tweets? You are on The Threads, right?
This morning's fishwrap said all of the Vikings qbs threw picks, except rookie Jaren Hall threw 2, in the 1st camp practice open to fans.
Have the Bear qbs thrown any ? Any ?
Or is it just td passes and mostly by #1 ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 30, 2023, 10:30:08 AM
IDK what “The Threads” is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 30, 2023, 10:31:03 AM
This morning's fishwrap said all of the Vikings qbs threw picks, except rookie Jaren Hall threw 2, in the 1st camp practice open to fans.
Have the Bear qbs thrown any ? Any ?
Or is it just td passes and mostly by #1 ?

Fields has thrown 1 that I know of.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 30, 2023, 10:32:00 AM
I think Mn is trying to make the point that it’s “only July.” And it’s just practice. Where would we be without his wise counsel.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 30, 2023, 10:32:33 AM
IDK what “The Threads” is.

Really? It is the hot new app brought to you by the people who brought you The FaceBook.

https://about.fb.com/news/2023/07/introducing-threads-new-app-text-sharing/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 30, 2023, 10:33:46 AM
Really? It is the hot new app brought to you by the people who brought you The FaceBook.

https://about.fb.com/news/2023/07/introducing-threads-new-app-text-sharing/

Guess I’m not really up on what’s hot.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 30, 2023, 10:34:17 AM
Fields has thrown 1 that I know of.

TJ Edwards was the recipient I believe.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 30, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
Guess I’m not really up on what’s hot.

Would've thought Bernstein or Parko would be talking it up given their love/hate relationship with The Twitter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 30, 2023, 10:36:01 AM
Really? It is the hot new app brought to you by the people who brought you The FaceBook.

https://about.fb.com/news/2023/07/introducing-threads-new-app-text-sharing/

Zuckerberg must be busy. I thought he was mostly preparing for his Octagon match against Musk.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 30, 2023, 10:36:48 AM
Would've thought Bernstein or Parko would be talking it up given their love/hate relationship with The Twitter.

I’ve probably listened to 2 hours of The Score all summer.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 30, 2023, 10:39:03 AM
I’ve probably listened to 2 hours of The Score all summer.

Wow. Who are you listening to these days? Pat McAfee?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 30, 2023, 10:55:32 AM
Wow. Who are you listening to these days? Pat McAfee?

Wouldn’t even know where to find him. My go tos lately have been George Harrison and the Blues station on Alexa.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 30, 2023, 11:06:34 AM
Lol anything for a click.

“Bears starting lineman leaves practice with injury.”

“Cody Whitehair back at practice after finger injury.”

https://www.chicitysports.com/chicago-bears-offensive-lineman-leaves-injury
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 31, 2023, 11:29:29 AM
Here’s an update that should get Mn pretty hard.

(https://i.postimg.cc/QMktZCmh/6-C5-BC6-C5-3407-4-B01-81-E6-C0-BC2-DF76-FAD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJxBFV2b)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 31, 2023, 11:30:36 AM
And one for PAMan. Lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/cC8GZ5Ww/F9406-AA3-43-CC-4-C22-8-D72-8-EDFC51-D47-E0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q605xwzv)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 31, 2023, 05:41:56 PM
More spank material for Mn.

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/bears-training-camp-report-justin-fields-chase-claypool/498304/?amp=1
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 31, 2023, 07:56:29 PM
More spank material for Mn.

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/bears-training-camp-report-justin-fields-chase-claypool/498304/?amp=1

Well, he is going against an Eberflus defense, so there is that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on August 01, 2023, 12:39:28 AM
And one for PAMan. Lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/cC8GZ5Ww/F9406-AA3-43-CC-4-C22-8-D72-8-EDFC51-D47-E0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q605xwzv)

Gotta love that Enerflus culture.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 01, 2023, 01:00:02 AM
Gotta love that Enerflus culture.

What does that even mean?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 01, 2023, 10:11:01 AM
Seeing that Jack “Urlacher”
Sanborn could be in jeopardy of losing his job to rookie Noah Sewell.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 01, 2023, 10:11:42 AM
Gotta love that Enerflus culture.

Seriously though, what does this mean? And was the misspelling deliberate?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 01, 2023, 10:36:49 AM
Seriously though, what does this mean? And was the misspelling deliberate?

Custard = Jasn is a match!?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 01, 2023, 12:55:08 PM
Grote said first play of the day 11 on 11 deep ball to DJ Moore for play that nearly scored. Hope Mn can still get it up today.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 01, 2023, 03:54:04 PM
PAMan should like this one.

https://twitter.com/GetUpESPN/status/1686374085318815744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1686374085318815744%7Ctwgr%5Ed6ff25e4fcc0071687e7fccf9481b08da9532505%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcsportschicago.com%2Fnfl%2Fchicago-bears%2Fbears-news%2Fespn-analyst-justin-fields-is-going-to-be-the-next-superstar-quarterback%2F498557%2F
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 01, 2023, 04:17:58 PM
Hope so! Greeny is usually right!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 01, 2023, 06:33:16 PM
Lol

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10084655-nfl-coach-rips-packers-jordan-love-dont-see-a-natural-smooth-instinctive-player
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 02, 2023, 12:54:20 PM
Justin Fields and the offense apparently had a bad morning at practice. What I love is that when he’s great at practice it’s only “preseason practice” and he still sucks. If he’s bad at practice it’s also proof that he still sucks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 02, 2023, 04:01:02 PM
Justin Fields and the offense apparently had a bad morning at practice. What I love is that when he’s great at practice it’s only “preseason practice” and he still sucks. If he’s bad at practice it’s also proof that he still sucks.

He just better perform adequately in the regular season. I'm trying not to  bother until Game 1.

Chump edit: I'm just bad at this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 02, 2023, 11:50:27 PM
Jonathon Taylor looking to be traded. Bears rumored to be a possible destination, but I don't see it. I don't see Poles being a guy who wants to pay big bucks to a RB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 02, 2023, 11:51:37 PM
He just better perform adequately in the regular season. I'm not trying not to  bother until Game 1.

He"d better! Or else...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 03, 2023, 07:46:10 AM
He"d better! Or else...

...the Bear will be looking to replace Mitch Part II....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 11:13:22 AM
...the Bear will be looking to replace Mitch Part II....

Depends. He’s already better than Mitch, though. Mitch never once showed the ability to lead an explosive offense. I don’t think JFC has to have a “great” year to get a 4th year. I’d say a 4th year is likely unless he’s really bad.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 11:15:10 AM
I guess you did use the word “adequately,” but that is a subjective word. If he’s reasonably competent he’s back next year. Unless they have a top 2 pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 03, 2023, 11:51:26 AM
I guess you did use the word “adequately,” but that is a subjective word. If he’s reasonably competent he’s back next year. Unless they have a top 2 pick.

I'll take "reasonably competent," but even that would mean they will be looking to draft someone, don't you think?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 12:25:16 PM
I'll take "reasonably competent," but even that would mean they will be looking to draft someone, don't you think?

I think it depends on where they are in the draft. They have a lot of great draft capital (OMG I just said that about the Bears!), but I don't think it's enough to move up to 1 or 2 unless they are like 3 or 4. I guess they could draft someone after that, but I don't see them taking the 3rd or 4th quarterback in the draft unless Fields is really bad or gets seriously injured.

Trading that draft capital is an option, but I don't think Poles pushes that button except in dire circumstances. Unless Fields is really bad and they are drafting 1 or 2 I think Fields gets a 4th year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 12:27:48 PM
Obviously, what we're hoping for is Fields throws for 4,000 yards and is a pro-bowl candidate if not MVP candidate. Again, barring a disastrous year I'm pretty sure he's back in '24.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 12:38:22 PM
Funny PAMan mentions Trubisky. He's trending (and as usual, not for good reasons).

https://twitter.com/Blitz_Burgh/status/1686456592290430986?t=0jd5F9VW9VUBspX4_EP_rQ&s=19
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 01:07:40 PM
I’d go with same order (35, 25, 25, 15)

(https://i.postimg.cc/6qgNhF0M/9457-F9-EB-406-C-4-D2-E-9523-331-EE4-E11117.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)screenshot software (https://postimages.org/app)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on August 03, 2023, 01:18:26 PM
Guess I hadn't paid much attention. Has Detroit made that much of a leap?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 01:24:57 PM
Guess I hadn't paid much attention. Has Detroit made that much of a leap?

On paper, I’d say yes. I’m still in the “I’ll believe it when I see it” camp.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on August 03, 2023, 01:51:32 PM
On paper, I’d say yes. I’m still in the “I’ll believe it when I see it” camp.

I know they lost some tight games last year, but I'm not in the know as to what their offseason looked like.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 02:31:53 PM
I know they lost some tight games last year, but I'm not in the know as to what their offseason looked like.

They’ve added some good players in the last couple/three drafts. Seems they have are having some off the field issues and I’m not sold that their coaching is good just yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 03, 2023, 04:39:19 PM
Funny PAMan mentions Trubisky. He's trending (and as usual, not for good reasons).

https://twitter.com/Blitz_Burgh/status/1686456592290430986?t=0jd5F9VW9VUBspX4_EP_rQ&s=19

I have my finger on the pulse of The Twitter and The Threads.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 05:07:03 PM
I have my finger on the pulse of The Twitter and The Threads.

You mean X.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 03, 2023, 05:55:11 PM
You mean X.

I think there is an Intellectual Property issue with it's use, so I'll stick with The Twitter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 03, 2023, 09:15:19 PM
Sounds like the Bear got their pass rusher. Tempo?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 09:51:27 PM
Sounds like the Bear got their pass rusher. Tempo?

Haven’t heard anything.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 03, 2023, 09:53:21 PM
Solid addition. Doesn’t do anything but pass rush, but they needed a guy who could do it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 04, 2023, 03:27:18 AM
Is this real? I know we’ve taken some poundings from GB but I don’t recall one this bad.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DyBRZyTr/BCFAE1-A4-F038-4-B76-816-B-AA75-A2-A45-FFA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qz61Drgq)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on August 04, 2023, 10:40:57 AM
Is this real? I know we’ve taken some poundings from GB but I don’t recall one this bad.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DyBRZyTr/BCFAE1-A4-F038-4-B76-816-B-AA75-A2-A45-FFA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qz61Drgq)

2014, I remember that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AQi37p8uQo
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 04, 2023, 11:19:22 AM
Ahhhhhh, 2nd year of Marc Trestman. Yikes that was bad. Trestman had me fooled. I thought he was good. I even spent much of year 2 in denial.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 04, 2023, 11:20:48 AM
Ahhhhhh, 2nd year of Marc Trestman. Yikes that was bad. Trestman had me fooled. I thought he was good. I even spent much of year 2 in denial.

Toolbox of shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on August 04, 2023, 02:55:33 PM
That was rock bottom of the Emery/Trestman shitshow
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on August 04, 2023, 04:02:19 PM
I even spent much of year 2 in denial.

Tempo in denial? Nahhhhhhh
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 04, 2023, 04:33:58 PM
Tempo in denial? Nahhhhhhh

Ooooooh, “good one.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 04, 2023, 11:09:11 PM
A bit worried they didn’t do enough to shore up the offensive line. The starting 5 should be “ok,” but depth looks to be lacking.

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/bears-troubling-lack-of-o-line-depth-already-rearing-ugly-head-at-training-camp/499224/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 05, 2023, 06:29:00 AM
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-news/ian-rapoport-believes-the-bears-are-heading-in-the-right-direction/499176/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 05, 2023, 12:13:16 PM
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-news/ian-rapoport-believes-the-bears-are-heading-in-the-right-direction/499176/

Didn't read it, but they had the first pick this year. Tough not to go in an upward direction (though it is possible).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 05, 2023, 02:10:55 PM
https://beargoggleson.com/posts/chicago-bears-justin-fields-star-mvp-nfl
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 05, 2023, 02:11:51 PM
Didn't read it, but they had the first pick this year. Tough not to go in an upward direction (though it is possible).

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on August 05, 2023, 02:24:40 PM
So Tempo relentlessly argued the Bears sold off all their assets/were at rock bottom, then posts a piece about how they’re heading in the right direction, then LOLs when someone jokes that they damn well ought to be.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 05, 2023, 02:29:09 PM
So Tempo relentlessly argued the Bears sold off all their assets/were at rock bottom, then posts a piece about how they’re heading in the right direction, then LOLs when someone jokes that they damn well ought to be.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 05, 2023, 03:05:03 PM
So Tempo relentlessly argued the Bears sold off all their assets/were at rock bottom, then posts a piece about how they’re heading in the right direction, then LOLs when someone jokes that they damn well ought to be.

And then jokes about the person pointing it out!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 05, 2023, 03:21:34 PM
As is often the case, Custard has a peculiar interpretation of events.

Yes, the Bears were basically bad on purpose last year. So of course, just about anything could be “headed in the right direction.” But I don’t think the point of the article is that the Bears are gonna be better because “how could they not be?” Improvement is the lowest of bars.

I think by “headed in the right direction” means they are improving their roster (again, how could they not?), and look to have a plan in place to be competitive sooner rather than later.

Of course they are “headed in the right direction (if that’s being interpreted as “better than last year”). It would be hard to be as bad or worse.

Lastly, I don’t think PAMan was “joking.” There’s nothing to lead one to that conclusion.

I interpret “headed in the right direction” as more than just “not as bad as last year.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 05, 2023, 03:27:33 PM
Of course the Bears “should be better than last year.” Couldn’t be a lot worse without a lot of injuries. This was a Belichikian “doing things the right way” article, if you will (That was for you PAMan!).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 05, 2023, 04:16:29 PM
Of course the Bears “should be better than last year.” Couldn’t be a lot worse without a lot of injuries. This was a Belichikian “doing things the right way” article, if you will (That was for you PAMan!).

Was going to as if Rappaport mentioned Beli admiring Flus' culture.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 05, 2023, 04:18:08 PM
As is often the case, Custard has a peculiar interpretation of events.

Yes, the Bears were basically bad on purpose last year. So of course, just about anything could be “headed in the right direction.” But I don’t think the point of the article is that the Bears are gonna be better because “how could they not be?” Improvement is the lowest of bars.

I think by “headed in the right direction” means they are improving their roster (again, how could they not?), and look to have a plan in place to be competitive sooner rather than later.

Of course they are “headed in the right direction (if that’s being interpreted as “better than last year”). It would be hard to be as bad or worse.

Lastly, I don’t think PAMan was “joking.” There’s nothing to lead one to that conclusion.

I interpret “headed in the right direction” as more than just “not as bad as last year.”

The problem with your analysis is that the Bear did not start the season tanking. Once they saw how bad the team was, including you-know-who, they went into tank mode and shed guys in week, what, 3 or 4?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on August 05, 2023, 09:58:36 PM
Liked the Ngakoue signing. They need pass rushers in the worst way.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 05, 2023, 10:02:03 PM
The problem with your analysis is that the Bear did not start the season tanking. Once they saw how bad the team was, including you-know-who, they went into tank mode and shed guys in week, what, 3 or 4?

For the 40th time, winning was never the highest priority. Getting their finances in order was. That’s why they traded Mack before the season and almost certainly led the league in starters on one year deals last year. No team with so many one year contracts is emphasizing “winning.” Sure, they weren’t explicitly “trying to lose,” but the priority was stripping the roster of older and more expensive talent. Players they didn’t feel were worth a high investment or didn’t figure to be important pieces 2-3 years down the road.

They were still technically in the playoff hunt and just came off of their dismantling of NE in prime time then immediately traded their two most accomplished players. That doesn’t seem like a team that’s prioritizing “winning” to me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 05, 2023, 10:09:27 PM
They were 3-4 and coming off an impressive road win when they traded away Quinn. No team that’s prioritizing winning makes this move.

"On the business side, it just made too much sense for what we're trying to do," general manager Ryan Poles told reporters. "It's going to allow us to continue to build a highly competitive roster.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 05, 2023, 10:20:53 PM
Did they “set out” to go 3-14? No. But the priority was always rebuilding for the future. And that meant dealing with wherever the cards fell. They were hoping to strip it bare, maybe hit on a couple one year deal guys (much as the Cubs did with Bellinger). Again, that’s why they dealt Mack way before the season started. The priority was getting the cap in line, acquiring draft capital, and building for the future. After that, it was “do the best you can with what you’ve got left.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 05, 2023, 10:43:22 PM
Are you saying that if they were 6-1 or 5-2, they would still have been selling off?

What about 4-3?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 06, 2023, 05:03:19 AM
Are you saying that if they were 6-1 or 5-2, they would still have been selling off?

What about 4-3?

It’s funny that you ask that question because I was about to make that exact point. No, of course not, if they had been 6-1 or 5-2  it would’ve been preposterous not to chase the playoffs. But since they were 3-4 or 3-5 chasing the playoffs wouldn’t have been prudent, but it was feasible. If it wasn’t a brand new regime, they probably would have chased the playoffs. Pace would have for sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 06, 2023, 06:58:31 AM
It’s funny that you ask that question because I was about to make that exact point. No, of course not, if they had been 6-1 or 5-2  it would’ve been preposterous not to chase the playoffs. But since they were 3-4 or 3-5 chasing the playoffs wouldn’t have been prudent, but it was feasible. If it wasn’t a brand new regime, they probably would have chased the playoffs. Pace would have for sure.

Which means they only sold off after they saw the team sucked. As we all saw, the offense really struggled (being generous here) until they shifted the offensive game plan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 06, 2023, 07:21:32 AM
The Bear only tanked after seeing that the offense was as bad as the US Women Third World Cup team"s.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 06, 2023, 09:12:51 AM
The Bear only tanked after seeing that the offense was as bad as the US Women Third World Cup team"s.

Believe that dipshit narrative if you want to. They scored 33 points on the road the week before they traded Robert Quinn. And then 29 points against an excellent Dallas defense the week before trading Roquan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 06, 2023, 09:14:40 AM
Unless the Bears had a winning record and legitimate playoff chances, they were likely always trading Quinn and Roquan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 06, 2023, 10:06:24 AM
Believe that dipshit narrative if you want to. They scored 33 points on the road the week before they traded Robert Quinn. And then 29 points against an excellent Dallas defense the week before trading Roquan.

At least you have finally admitted they were not tanking from the start. Took you 7 months to finally admit that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 06, 2023, 10:24:08 AM
By trading Mack and gutting the salary with one year deals, they were obviously going into the season “prepared to live with the results.” I don’t think the Bears were ever outright “tanking,” but they didn’t field a good team basically by design if you can wrap your head around that. The primary goals going into the season were getting the financials in order and getting younger. Then it was “do the best you can with what you’ve got.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 06, 2023, 10:27:56 AM
“Tanking” is a bit strong, but Poles ran the team like he was Jerry Reinsdorf. A poorer even less willing to spend money Jerry Reinsdorf.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 06, 2023, 11:50:57 AM
They were dumping Mack because he only had a part of a decent year and was overpaid, to the chagrin of  chumps like MiniDitka who slobbered all over him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 06, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
They were dumping Mack because he only had a part of a decent year and was overpaid, to the chagrin of  chumps like MiniDitka who slobbered all over him.

They dumped him for multiple reasons.

1) Overpaid
2) Old/often injured
3) Needed draft capital
4) One of few players they had capable of getting you anything in return
5) “Winning” wasn’t the priority year one
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 06, 2023, 12:02:14 PM
If Ryan Pace had still been GM zero chance Mack gets traded. He’d have been borrowing from the future (yet again) to try to stay competitive
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 06, 2023, 07:50:37 PM
Seeing on the website formerly known as Twitter that Claypool is looking really good in practice.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 06, 2023, 09:09:12 PM
Bears claim Bravvion Roy off waivers from Carolina. Nose Tackle 6’1 330. 6th rounder a few years ago. Doesn’t seem to fit the Bears’ prototype so weird pickup.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 06, 2023, 10:17:12 PM
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/schrocks-bears-camp-observations-justin-fields-offense-sharp-in-red-zone/499713/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 08, 2023, 08:31:10 AM
Dexter slow off the snap. Concerned, Tempo?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 08, 2023, 10:55:50 AM
Dexter slow off the snap. Concerned, Tempo?

Not even a little. He’s not even played in an exhibition game yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 09, 2023, 11:00:39 AM
I only post this so we can laugh at two women talking football. Like they could possibly know anything worthwhile about football, or the Bears. Give me more Colin Cowherd, Stephen A, or Skip Bayless. 

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/football-night-in-chicago/how-the-signing-of-yannick-ngakoue-has-impacted-the-bears-locker-room/499931/

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 09, 2023, 11:13:06 AM
I only post this so we can laugh at two women talking football. Like they could possibly know anything worthwhile about football, or the Bears. Give me more Colin Cowherd, Stephen A, or Skip Bayless. 

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/football-night-in-chicago/how-the-signing-of-yannick-ngakoue-has-impacted-the-bears-locker-room/499931/


Man, you gotta be desperate to watch that. Maybe take up gardening or something.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 09, 2023, 11:27:53 AM
You almost always come up short, but you keep trying. You’re a good kid, Charlie Brown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 09, 2023, 12:36:01 PM
Freaking Hilarious...

https://www.theonion.com/justin-fields-praises-receivers-for-running-routes-desp-1850705875

Justin Fields Praises Receivers For Running Routes Despite No Intention To Ever Throw Ball
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 09, 2023, 01:00:19 PM
Freaking Hilarious...

https://www.theonion.com/justin-fields-praises-receivers-for-running-routes-desp-1850705875

Justin Fields Praises Receivers For Running Routes Despite No Intention To Ever Throw Ball

That is pretty funny.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on August 09, 2023, 01:29:49 PM
Freaking Hilarious...

https://www.theonion.com/justin-fields-praises-receivers-for-running-routes-desp-1850705875

Justin Fields Praises Receivers For Running Routes Despite No Intention To Ever Throw Ball

He praises them for blocking downfield for him to run the ball. NFL don’t pay running backs no more though 🤷🏻‍♂️ don’t care if you’re JFC or not…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 09, 2023, 05:29:14 PM
Claypool has a hammy. I don’t think it’s serious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 09, 2023, 05:31:14 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/gcNhDY1d/1-FE509-C8-DA53-439-F-BFD8-3-EC8-FD3-D8-A9-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JtHt7W1d)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 10, 2023, 09:24:23 PM
Meanwhile…

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/schrocks-bears-camp-observations-justin-fields-has-no-time-in-day-to-forget-for-o-line/500537/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 11, 2023, 01:42:59 PM
Tempo, I keep getting stuff in The Google telling me that Claypool seems to be mixing it up on a daily basis with the DBs.

Are any of your The Twitter and 670 football gals and guys thinking he is doing this to get out of town?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 11, 2023, 02:39:56 PM
Tempo, I keep getting stuff in The Google telling me that Claypool seems to be mixing it up on a daily basis with the DBs.

Are any of your The Twitter and 670 football gals and guys thinking he is doing this to get out of town?

Wouldn’t have a clue. Have heard very little of the Score lately. And when I do tune in it’s mostly baseball or random chatter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 11, 2023, 02:40:41 PM
Personally, I wouldn’t think so. I think he’s just immature. Which they knew when they traded for him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 11, 2023, 08:25:00 PM
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/8/11/23827820/chicago-bears-gervon-dexter-shining-zacch-pickens-quiet-training-camp-rookie-andrew-billings
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 27, 2023, 01:08:01 PM
Arlington Heights is the overwhelming favorite.

Bob Nightengale reporting today Arlington Heights one of 3 sites the Pale Hose interested in playing in a retractable domed stadium.

If the McCaskey were smart, they would team up with The Chairman. He knows how to get the politics done. The problem for them would be how much he would fleece them.

If The Chairman joins forces with the McCaskey, the Bear stadium gets done in Arlington Heights. If not, it does not, as he will suck all the state money for his stadium either at Soldier Field or next to the United Center.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 02:33:59 PM
If they handle the Packer week 1 as easily as they should, they go at least 11-6

Sun, 9/10 vs GB - W
Sun, 9/17 @ TB -W
Sun, 9/24 @ KC - L
Sun, 10/1 vs DEN - L
Thu, 10/5 @ WSH - W
Sun, 10/15 vs MIN - W
Sun, 10/22 vs LV - L
Sun, 10/29 @ LAC - L
Sun, 11/5 @ NO - W
Thu, 11/9 vs CAR -W
Sun, 11/19 @ DET - L
Mon, 11/27 @ MIN - L
Sun, 12/10 vs DET - W
Sun, 12/17 @ CLE - W
Sun, 12/24 vs ARI - W
Sun, 12/31 vs ATL - W
Sun, 1/7   @ GB - W

If they lose week 1, 6-11 (or worse)....

Sun, 9/10 vs GB - L
Sun, 9/17 @ TB -W
Sun, 9/24 @ KC - L
Sun, 10/1 vs DEN - L
Thu, 10/5 @ WSH - W
Sun, 10/15 vs MIN - L
Sun, 10/22 vs LV - L
Sun, 10/29 @ LAC - L
Sun, 11/5 @ NO - L
Thu, 11/9 vs CAR -W
Sun, 11/19 @ DET - L
Mon, 11/27 @ MIN - L
Sun, 12/10 vs DET - W
Sun, 12/17 @ CLE - L
Sun, 12/24 vs ARI - W
Sun, 12/31 vs ATL - W
Sun, 1/7   @ GB - L

Chump edits because I cannot add...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 02:34:56 PM
Tempo, what you got?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on August 28, 2023, 04:00:04 PM
If they handle the Packer week 1 as easily as they should, they go at least 12-6

Sun, 9/10 vs GB - W
Sun, 9/17 @ TB -W
Sun, 9/24 @ KC - L
Sun, 10/1 vs DEN - L
Thu, 10/5 @ WSH - W
Sun, 10/15 vs MIN - W
Sun, 10/22 vs LV - L
Sun, 10/29 @ LAC - L
Sun, 11/5 @ NO - W
Thu, 11/9 vs CAR -W
Sun, 11/19 @ DET - L
Mon, 11/27 @ MIN - L
Sun, 12/10 vs DET - W
Sun, 12/17 @ CLE - W
Sun, 12/24 vs ARI - W
Sun, 12/31 vs ATL - W
Sun, 1/7   @ GB - W

If they lose week 1, 6-12 (or worse)....

Sun, 9/10 vs GB - L
Sun, 9/17 @ TB -W
Sun, 9/24 @ KC - L
Sun, 10/1 vs DEN - L
Thu, 10/5 @ WSH - W
Sun, 10/15 vs MIN - L
Sun, 10/22 vs LV - L
Sun, 10/29 @ LAC - L
Sun, 11/5 @ NO - L
Thu, 11/9 vs CAR -W
Sun, 11/19 @ DET - L
Mon, 11/27 @ MIN - L
Sun, 12/10 vs DET - W
Sun, 12/17 @ CLE - L
Sun, 12/24 vs ARI - W
Sun, 12/31 vs ATL - W
Sun, 1/7   @ GB - L

Damn that’s a bold prediction, Cotton! All based on one game essentially.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 04:02:38 PM
Damn that’s a bold prediction, Cotton! All based on one game essentially.

As I told Simone Biles at the Olympics, "Go big or go home, bitch!" She ignored me and just stayed on vacation.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: frankiew on August 28, 2023, 04:06:30 PM
5 and 13

Book it!!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on August 28, 2023, 04:06:57 PM
As I told Simone Biles at the Olympics, "Go big or go home, bitch!" She ignored me and just stayed on vacation.

Hey can’t argue with that! At least you picked, dare I say it, a side of the fence…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 04:18:21 PM
Hey can’t argue with that! At least you picked, dare I say it, a side of the fence…

Other than I cannot add to 17....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 04:46:10 PM
If they handle the Packer week 1 as easily as they should, they go at least 11-6

Sun, 9/10 vs GB - W
Sun, 9/17 @ TB -W
Sun, 9/24 @ KC - L
Sun, 10/1 vs DEN - L
Thu, 10/5 @ WSH - W
Sun, 10/15 vs MIN - W
Sun, 10/22 vs LV - L
Sun, 10/29 @ LAC - L
Sun, 11/5 @ NO - W
Thu, 11/9 vs CAR -W
Sun, 11/19 @ DET - L
Mon, 11/27 @ MIN - L
Sun, 12/10 vs DET - W
Sun, 12/17 @ CLE - W
Sun, 12/24 vs ARI - W
Sun, 12/31 vs ATL - W
Sun, 1/7   @ GB - W

If they lose week 1, 6-11 (or worse)....

Sun, 9/10 vs GB - L
Sun, 9/17 @ TB -W
Sun, 9/24 @ KC - L
Sun, 10/1 vs DEN - L
Thu, 10/5 @ WSH - W
Sun, 10/15 vs MIN - L
Sun, 10/22 vs LV - L
Sun, 10/29 @ LAC - L
Sun, 11/5 @ NO - L
Thu, 11/9 vs CAR -W
Sun, 11/19 @ DET - L
Mon, 11/27 @ MIN - L
Sun, 12/10 vs DET - W
Sun, 12/17 @ CLE - L
Sun, 12/24 vs ARI - W
Sun, 12/31 vs ATL - W
Sun, 1/7   @ GB - L

Chump edits because I cannot add...

Why not use the “new” thread?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 04:47:00 PM
5 and 13

Book it!!!!

I think they’ll be significantly better than that, unless they are racked with injuries.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 04:48:45 PM
Tempo, what you got?

If they stay reasonably healthy, I’ll say 10-7 wildcard.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 05:56:51 PM
Why not use the “new” thread?

I consider this thread the more serious of the two threads.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 05:58:02 PM
If they stay reasonably healthy, I’ll say 10-7 wildcard.

Let's see your game-by-game, one with and one sans injuries.....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 06:01:46 PM
I consider this thread the more serious of the two threads.

Mislabeled though. This was actually 2022 season. It’s as serious as you and Mn want it to be.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on August 28, 2023, 10:04:59 PM
According to this, Mooney a trade candidate…

https://x.com/jacobinfante24/status/1696167257838166047?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 08:34:28 AM
According to this, Mooney a trade candidate…

https://x.com/jacobinfante24/status/1696167257838166047?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Wouldn’t really shock me. He and Tyler Scott are probably redundant.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on August 29, 2023, 08:50:54 AM
Wouldn’t really shock me. He and Tyler Scott are probably redundant.

If they have no plans to resign him, I don’t see why not. Might as well get something for him if you can. Just don’t use it as an excuse if Fields looks like shit because he has no other receivers beside DJ please.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 09:07:00 AM
If they have no plans to resign him, I don’t see why not. Might as well get something for him if you can. Just don’t use it as an excuse if Fields looks like shit because he has no other receivers beside DJ please.

Mooney might be about to get the Roquan treatment.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 09:09:54 AM
If they have no plans to resign him, I don’t see why not. Might as well get something for him if you can. Just don’t use it as an excuse if Fields looks like shit because he has no other receivers beside DJ please.

Well, I can’t imagine it would help. We’d better hope Chase Claypool doesn’t suck again. I’m guessing if he gets traded it’s later, and the season isn’t going as well as hoped.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 09:18:31 AM
Bro, no way Fields isn’t better than this goober.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1tBKFDvd/C86-C6-D18-E6-BF-4-E3-D-8-F95-AC769-DE35-B91.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 09:52:07 AM
We’d better hope Chase Claypool doesn’t suck again.

Wait a second. Maybe we should hope the QB doesn't still suck and can throw the ball to him. Remember the outburst on the sideline because he was not throwing the ball (to anyone)? Hopefully the QB spent more time on film and less on the Bible this off-season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 09:52:53 AM
Bro, no way Fields isn’t better than this goober.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1tBKFDvd/C86-C6-D18-E6-BF-4-E3-D-8-F95-AC769-DE35-B91.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

May be a taller midget situation
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 09:53:55 AM
If they have no plans to resign him, I don’t see why not. Might as well get something for him if you can. Just don’t use it as an excuse if Fields looks like shit because he has no other receivers beside DJ please.

Would be awesome to see him in an offense where the QB can actually throw the ball over the line of scrimmage.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:10:05 AM
Wait a second. Maybe we should hope the QB doesn't still suck and can throw the ball to him. Remember the outburst on the sideline because he was not throwing the ball (to anyone)? Hopefully the QB spent more time on film and less on the Bible this off-season.

JFC you can’t admit Claypool sucked last year? Why did the coaches sit him after trading for him? Must have all been Fields’ fault. There’s enough blame to go around, you know.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:11:36 AM
It’s beyond obvious the coaches weren’t happy with him. All the way up to training camp this year. When he was listed as unavailable, then available the next day. Weird, but something had to be going on. Claypool sucked. That’s why Pittsburgh unloaded him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:12:45 AM
JFC you can’t admit Claypool sucked last year? Why did the coaches sit him after trading for him? Must have all been Fields’ fault. There’s enough blame to go around, you know.

It's Fields' and the coaching staff's fault, but it is mostly Ohio State's fault for having shit QB coaches.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:12:59 AM
Did you just take a shot at Christians? Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:13:35 AM
It's Fields' and the coaching staff's fault, but it is mostly Ohio State's fault for having shit QB coaches.

But receivers who played poorly aren’t to blame?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:14:16 AM
It’s beyond obvious the coaches weren’t happy with him. All the way up to training camp this year. When he was listed as unavailable, then available the next day. Weird, but something had to be going on. Claypool sucked. That’s why Pittsburgh unloaded him.

The coaches were not happy with him because he was stating the obvious about JFC... He could not pass last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:15:13 AM
But receivers who played poorly aren’t to blame?

Played poorly by getting open and the QB not being able to read and throw? We saw film after film last year of guys NFL open and he never would throw the ball!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:16:48 AM
Did you just take a shot at Christians? Lol

I took a shot at vegan Bible thumpers who have sucked at QB so far for the Bear.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:18:57 AM
The coaches were not happy with him because he was stating the obvious about JFC... He could not pass last year.

You are fucking delusional.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:20:00 AM
You are incapable of being reasonable on this issue. Unless, you’re ramping up your troll routine for the regular season? You were actually enjoyable to interact with again for a while.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:21:21 AM
I took a shot at vegan Bible thumpers who have sucked at QB so far for the Bear.

Sorry, man. But even most great quarterbacks aren’t MVP candidates year 1 and 2.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:23:39 AM
You are fucking delusional.
You are in denial.  He sucks as a passer Tempo. He has not looked better in the preseason.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:25:16 AM
You are incapable of being reasonable on this issue. Unless, you’re ramping up your troll routine for the regular season? You were actually enjoyable to interact with again for a while.

Tempo, he sucked Saturday. He had guys open and he made bad decisions. The throws he made were bad. Why are you ignoring that?

I think you are trolling me!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:25:26 AM
You are in denial.  He sucks as a passer Tempo. He has not looked better in the preseason.

Preseason.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:26:26 AM
Sorry, man. But even most great quarterbacks aren’t MVP candidates year 1 and 2.

I don't expect him to be an MVP candidate. I expect him to be somewhat competent as a passer. He has not shown that he is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:26:38 AM
Tempo, he sucked Saturday. He had guys open and he made bad decisions. The throws he made were bad. Why are you ignoring that?

I think you are trolling me!

Guys were open? Where? The one down the hash mark Mooney or whoever it was was blanketed. It was also a bad pass.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:27:22 AM
I don't expect him to be an MVP candidate. I expect him to be somewhat competent as a passer. He has not shown that he is.

He threw 6 fucking passes. In preseason. Relax.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:28:11 AM
He also had an easy catch dropped.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:28:58 AM
Preseason.

He should have looked far better in preseason. It only gets tougher here on out.

Of course they are going to mask his deficiencies by having him run the ball. It will work decently until he gets his bell rung or he gets hurt. We both know one of the other will happen if he plays QB in the same manner as the last half of last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:29:16 AM
If he goes 12 for 26 against GB I’ll hear ya out. Relax. Take a breath on the subject.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:29:45 AM
Guys were open? Where? The one down the hash mark Mooney or whoever it was was blanketed. It was also a bad pass.

Watch the video, Tempo. Guys were open and he was forcing the ball to covered people.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:30:18 AM
He should have looked far better in preseason. It only gets tougher here on out.

Of course they are going to mask his deficiencies by having him run the ball. It will work decently until he gets his bell rung or he gets hurt. We both know one of the other will happen if he plays QB in the same manner as the last half of last year.

*He should have looked better on those 6 passes. Fuck, end of the world here*
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:30:51 AM
He also had an easy catch dropped.

Wow. Even the video dude said he may have wanted to take something off of that pass even though it should have been caught
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:32:18 AM
*He should have looked better on those 6 passes. Fuck, end of the world here*

It is preseason. He should have looked good on those 6 passes. He didn't.

What do you think the difference is going to be in the regular season?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:33:07 AM
Watch the video, Tempo. Guys were open and he was forcing the ball to covered people.

I don’t think Fields is ever going to be Drew Brees. So maybe get that out of your head. Donovan McNabb or Randall Cunningham will be fine. He’s a touchdown to checkdown guy. His internal clock is different. It’ll hurt on some plays, help on others. He’s not going to be Kurt Warner. But he could be Steve Young.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:34:00 AM
It is preseason. He should have looked good on those 6 passes. He didn't.

What do you think the difference is going to be in the regular season?

More sample size. That’s it. A lot more sample size.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:34:42 AM
But he could be Steve Young.

Custard, can you pin Tempo's post?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:36:11 AM
I can’t believe a guy sees two drives (which did contain two explosive plays btw) in the preseason and is acting like his hair is on fire. But you’re the same guy who flipped out about a couple extra missed free-throws in a 30 point win in mid-November so that makes sense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:37:48 AM
Custard, can you pin Tempo's post?

*could be*

Hey quaterback expert. How good was Steve Young the first 7-8 years of his career? Check it out and get back to me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:41:22 AM
Look at all those pro-bowl years Steve Young racked up his first 6 years…

(https://i.postimg.cc/tCGSKwkz/9691-C2-C8-163-E-4921-B892-BB9-BF7-C7-B4-BC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3W9FpLPy)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:43:56 AM
PAMan’s brain functions in a weird way. No recollection of Jalen Hurts’ and Josh Allen’s year 1 and 2 struggles.

*But he threw 6 passes in a preseason game against Buffalo and didn’t look good.*
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:45:41 AM
This is going to be a really fun year if Fields turns into an MVP candidate.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 10:48:48 AM
Wow. Even the video dude said he may have wanted to take something off of that pass even though it should have been caught

Lolololololololololol

“EQ dropped the perfect throw on 4th down because he wasn’t expecting it to hit him in his hands*
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 10:51:43 AM
Hope you are right, Tempo. If not, it is going to be a long year. For the Bear, and for you!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 03:48:39 PM
Glad the Bears made a trade for offensive line help. Feeney apparently can play either guard or center. They will need him. Jenkins is unreliable and Lucas Patrick looks like a total washout. Nate Davis is in the team picture so far as well. OL by far my biggest area for concern heading into the regular season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 30, 2023, 05:38:50 PM
Jenkins missing 4 games right off the bat.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 30, 2023, 07:12:54 PM
Jenkins missing 4 games right off the bat.

Yeah that seemed to be a given.

Travis Bell also cut. Only a 7th rounder, but I didn’t get that selection. He didn’t seem to fit what they look for. Odd pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 30, 2023, 07:13:42 PM
But they “really loved him.” Weird.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 30, 2023, 10:20:30 PM
Glad the Bears made a trade for offensive line help. Feeney apparently can play either guard or center. They will need him. Jenkins is unreliable and Lucas Patrick looks like a total washout. Nate Davis is in the team picture so far as well. OL by far my biggest area for concern heading into the regular season.

I thought we were waiting until November 6th to worry about anything?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 30, 2023, 10:21:31 PM

“EQ dropped the perfect throw on 4th down because he wasn’t expecting it to hit him in his hands*

Still a true statement!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 30, 2023, 10:23:42 PM
But they “really loved him.” Weird.

Let me know when Poles finds a Diamond in the Rough....I don't think Jack Sanborn counts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 30, 2023, 10:26:08 PM
I thought we were waiting until November 6th to worry about anything?

🧌
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 30, 2023, 11:29:00 PM
🧌

I don't understand the double standard
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 12:51:10 AM
I don't understand the double standard

Why would they stop trying to fill perceived needs?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 12:52:39 AM
There’s a massive difference between not freaking out about a subpar preseason performance and saying “fuck it, we’re not gonna do anything to get better till after November.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 31, 2023, 07:23:48 AM
Still a true statement!
It took about all of 2 passes to think that Danny Devito, unlike Brandon before him, throws a catchable ball.
Put Devito vs Peters throwing to ESB, with the same patterns, and the same passes and I'll go with Devito finishes with a higher completion percentage.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 31, 2023, 07:39:13 AM
There’s a massive difference between not freaking out about a subpar preseason performance and saying “fuck it, we’re not gonna do anything to get better till after November.”

Yet, you refuse to apply this standard to the QB. Yes, I know you thought he should have gotten more snaps in the preseason.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 31, 2023, 07:40:07 AM
It took about all of 2 passes to think that Danny Devito, unlike Brandon before him, throws a catchable ball.
Put Devito vs Peters throwing to ESB, with the same patterns, and the same passes and I'll go with Devito finishes with a higher completion percentage.

Maybe the Bear can pluck DeVito off the Giant practice squad, if he winds up there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 31, 2023, 08:05:46 AM
Yet, you refuse to apply this standard to the QB. Yes, I know you thought he should have gotten more snaps in the preseason.
I thought the issue was a pre-season concern about the OL when concern mode doesn't officially start until Nov 9.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 31, 2023, 08:07:38 AM
Maybe the Bear can pluck DeVito off the Giant practice squad, if he winds up there.
Being a receiver may be similar to facing a pitcher who can't find the plate.  :D
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 08:53:53 AM
It took about all of 2 passes to think that Danny Devito, unlike Brandon before him, throws a catchable ball.
Put Devito vs Peters throwing to ESB, with the same patterns, and the same passes and I'll go with Devito finishes with a higher completion percentage.

Zzzzzzzz
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 08:56:01 AM
Yet, you refuse to apply this standard to the QB. Yes, I know you thought he should have gotten more snaps in the preseason.

JFC.

You can’t possibly think not freaking out about a very small handful of plays in a preseason game is the same as not making moves to fill roster needs. That’s completely fucking illogical. Not even in the same universe conceptually.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 08:57:57 AM
I thought the issue was a pre-season concern about the OL when concern mode doesn't officially start until Nov 9.

When it concerns not having starters available, yeah, I’m gonna fly the concern flag a bit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 08:58:53 AM
Especially when that unit might not be the strongest to begin with.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 09:03:52 AM
It took about all of 2 passes to think that Danny Devito, unlike Brandon before him, throws a catchable ball.
Put Devito vs Peters throwing to ESB, with the same patterns, and the same passes and I'll go with Devito finishes with a higher completion percentage.

Ironic that the guys who aren’t into excuses bend over backwards to make excuses for a receiver that drops a perfectly thrown ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 31, 2023, 09:18:29 AM
JFC.

You can’t possibly think not freaking out about a very small handful of plays in a preseason game is the same as not making moves to fill roster needs. That’s completely fucking illogical. Not even in the same universe conceptually.

It isn't based on just a handful of plays. We are now over 2 seasons in and seeing the same things over and over when it comes to passing the ball.

Not making moves to fill roster needs,  indeed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 31, 2023, 09:19:43 AM
I thought the issue was a pre-season concern about the OL when concern mode doesn't officially start until Nov 9.

I think this is one of "The Tempo Rules."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 09:45:49 AM
It’s his first season with adequate help and not having to learn a new system. I’m not going to freak out over a few bad plays in a preseason in which he barely played.

If we’re looking at missing multiple starters on the Oline, that is something to be concerned about.

If Fields comes out and looks bad the first couple of games, have at it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 11:30:30 AM
Yet, you refuse to apply this standard to the QB. Yes, I know you thought he should have gotten more snaps in the preseason.

If (weirdly) it makes you feel better, I’m feeling a bit more bearish (no pun intended) on the Bears than a couple weeks ago. But a few mediocre to poor plays against Buffalo aren’t the primary reason.

Just not liking the vibe heading into the regular season. The offensive line health is bad and depth is being exposed. They probably still aren’t deep enough across the board. Not a lot of positive chatter about the offense the last couple weeks. Didn’t get enough playing time in the preseason IMO. I said 10-7 but if I were betting today I’d take the under on 10. Hopefully they come out and beat GB 42-17 and all is forgotten.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 12:01:18 PM
What the fuck has Lucas Patrick brought to the table since being here? That guy is pretty much Nate Davis that’s been around longer. Fucking bust at this point.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 12:38:27 PM
Nathan Peterman makes the 53 man. Yikes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 31, 2023, 01:29:38 PM
Ironic that the guys who aren’t into excuses bend over backwards to make excuses for a receiver that drops a perfectly thrown ball.
He doesn't call the plays.
He can block. Just don't throw him the ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 01:31:25 PM
But he's a good blocker.

Poles and Flus seem to value that, so not on me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 01:32:04 PM
And it’s still ironic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 01:32:33 PM
He doesn't call the plays.
He can block. Just don't throw him the ball.

Huge chump edit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 01:33:53 PM
Fields has to throw it to someone. He was on the field. And even open as I recall. But still Fields’ fault he dropped it. The pass was too perfect to catch.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 31, 2023, 01:36:07 PM
What the fuck has Lucas Patrick brought to the table since being here?
Culture ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 01:37:48 PM
Fields’ fault.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T2rGDWb6/01028-E54-FEE7-4-DDA-8-A85-45-B1-AD56184-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kDXkrGw1)space bar isn t working (https://keyboardtester.co/keyboard-tester)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 01:38:25 PM
Culture ?

Nate Davis has been observing apparently.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on August 31, 2023, 01:45:26 PM
What the fuck has Lucas Patrick brought to the table since being here? That guy is pretty much Nate Davis that’s been around longer. Fucking bust at this point.

Maybe Lucas Patrick can take having a ball thrown at the back of his head without being concussed?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 05:28:24 PM
Nathan Peterman makes the 53 man. Yikes.

Apparently I got some bad info. Just read he’s not on 53 man roster.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 05:46:39 PM
JFC, DJ Moore, Eddie Jackson, and Tremaine Edmunds named team captains. Sounds like Eddie is really maturing (finally). Hopefully he’s realized it’s ok to hit someone now and then, not just try to take the ball away.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 05:47:13 PM
So glad they don’t do the stupid weekly captains thing like Nagy. SMH
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 31, 2023, 05:50:27 PM
Practice squad lineup if anyone cares.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Fz9jMyr0/98462757-D482-48-DE-9510-E70-B1809-FBCD.png) (https://postimg.cc/9RnRTqqf)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 02, 2023, 11:15:40 AM
Don’t give a shit what PAMan or Mn think, this is AWESOME. And I want more of it (and yes, he needs to get better as a passer). LFG!

https://x.com/nfl/status/1589343929580732416?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 02, 2023, 11:17:38 AM
“He got a great block by Mooney!” 😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 02, 2023, 12:42:31 PM
Can NFL start already, Jesus. I think I saw the GB is the unusual afternoon start time?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 02, 2023, 03:56:12 PM
Just saw something that said Denver could be looking to trade Courtland Sutton (because of cap hit). He’s a very talented player who’s had some tough breaks in his career IMO. Flashed early, tore an ACL, dealt with shit for quarterback play.

I’d be totally down for the Bears to trade for him if he’s not too costly.

https://predominantlyorange.com/posts/denver-broncos-courtland-sutton-has-had-unfortunate-career-
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 02, 2023, 05:35:39 PM
https://x.com/nfl/status/1697640459647017150?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

The head exploding here is PAMan’s 

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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 03, 2023, 09:09:44 PM
Brisker in danger of missing GB game with soft tissue injury.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 03, 2023, 09:32:09 PM
Brisker in danger of missing GB game with soft tissue injury.

Dave Duerson never missed a game due to a soft tissue injury.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 04, 2023, 05:36:42 AM
Dave Duerson never missed a game due to a soft tissue injury.

And now he’s dead.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 04, 2023, 06:30:38 AM
And now he’s dead.

How is that relevant to Brisker's mysterious soft tissue injury?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 04, 2023, 10:36:18 AM
Looks like the joke sailed over your head. Like a Justin Fields (Mitch Trubisky) pass.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 04, 2023, 12:32:02 PM
https://beargoggleson.com/posts/biggest-questions-facing-chicago-bears-2023-season/10
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 05, 2023, 02:57:17 PM
Oof…

“I can speak with certainty that Darnell, for most teams, was a second or third-round player, like middle of the second, and some teams might have had him a little higher. And so for him to go up all the way to the top ten, he really had a great week. He locked people down.”

https://www.chicitysports.com/nfl-darnell-wright-day-2-chicago-bears-news
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 07, 2023, 01:36:04 PM
Really felt like the Bears (or someone) would trade for Mike Evans. Still young enough to have several more highly productive years. Tampa is going nowhere, felt like he could have been had for a reasonable price.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/mike-evans-any-player-in-my-position-would-want-future-solidified-and-secured
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 07:53:22 AM
The numbers are currently  such that Eberlose is looking like the worst coach in Bear history. 8 consecutive home losses is a record. Giving up over 30 ppg in however many consecutive games is a record. This guy is worse than Abe Gibron, Jim Dooley or The Arrogant Matt Nagy. Yeah yeah yeah, they were tanking after the bye...enough of the excuses. Even fucking Lovie would be better than this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on September 11, 2023, 10:03:04 AM
Boy I bet the talking heads at the AM radio stations have a lot to talk about today after ANOTHER loss to the Packers
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 10:06:38 AM
Boy I bet the talking heads at the AM radio stations have a lot to talk about today after ANOTHER loss to the Packers

Two things I have read so far:

A. Eberlose "politlely" blamed Fields today on Kap and Hood. I don't have any specifics.

B. Brad Biggs claims plays were meant to go downfield and Fields just checked down all the time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on September 11, 2023, 10:17:43 AM
Two things I have read so far:

A. Eberlose "politlely" blamed Fields today on Kap and Hood. I don't have any specifics.

B. Brad Biggs claims plays were meant to go downfield and Fields just checked down all the time.
Eberlose can "politely" say whatever.
Biggs can claim whatever.

It looked as tho going downfield was not in the game plan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 10:44:19 AM
Eberlose can "politely" say whatever.
Biggs can claim whatever.

It looked as tho going downfield was not in the game plan.

Need to see the film with the whole 22 to see the routes. Can't tell from TV. But yes, there were plays specifically run for a DeVito style offense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 01:10:32 PM
The numbers are currently  such that Eberlose is looking like the worst coach in Bear history. 8 consecutive home losses is a record. Giving up over 30 ppg in however many consecutive games is a record. This guy is worse than Abe Gibron, Jim Dooley or The Arrogant Matt Nagy. Yeah yeah yeah, they were tanking after the bye...enough of the excuses. Even fucking Lovie would be better than this.

For the eleventieth time, last year should barely even count against Flus. They were not prioritizing winning. They were number 1 in dead cap space by a mile. Knute Rockne, Don Shula, and Bill Belichick as a coaching team wasn’t going to win with that roster.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 01:11:58 PM
Two things I have read so far:

A. Eberlose "politlely" blamed Fields today on Kap and Hood. I don't have any specifics.

B. Brad Biggs claims plays were meant to go downfield and Fields just checked down all the time.

Lol they were already two touchdowns down before Fields started to unravel.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 01:13:18 PM
Eberlose can "politely" say whatever.
Biggs can claim whatever.

It looked as tho going downfield was not in the game plan.

And neither was getting the ball to DJ Moore. Two targets for Moore is inexcusable and that’s on Flus and Getsy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 01:15:38 PM
That loss was an organizational loss. From Poles on down to the ball boy. And yes, Fields played his role in it as well.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 11, 2023, 01:49:16 PM
That loss was an organizational loss. From Poles on down to the ball boy. And yes, Fields played his role in it as well.

Absolutely. 100% agree.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 02:25:35 PM
And neither was getting the ball to DJ Moore. Two targets for Moore is inexcusable and that’s on Flus and Getsy.

Does not sound like DJ Moore had only 2 "targets." Also sounding like Eberlose is not going to just put up with The Twitter Bullshit Crowd.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 02:27:36 PM
For the eleventieth time, last year should barely even count against Flus. They were not prioritizing winning. They were number 1 in dead cap space by a mile. Knute Rockne, Don Shula, and Bill Belichick as a coaching team wasn’t going to win with that roster.

I don't know how you can say that after seeing how inept they were yesterday.  They had all offseason to prep for that game and yet what we saw was complete trash on both sides of the ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on September 11, 2023, 02:43:41 PM
Anybody got any OTA highlights to post to lighten the mood around here ?
😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 02:46:31 PM
Anybody got any OTA highlights to post to lighten the mood around here ?
😂

Yes, we need more of Fields' 7-on-7 highlights.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 03:07:58 PM
Does not sound like DJ Moore had only 2 "targets." Also sounding like Eberlose is not going to just put up with The Twitter Bullshit Crowd.

I don’t care what it “sounds like.” That’s what he got.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 03:09:10 PM
I don't know how you can say that after seeing how inept they were yesterday.  They had all offseason to prep for that game and yet what we saw was complete trash on both sides of the ball.

It’s a distinct possibility that Poles and Eberflus had a bad offseason.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 03:09:45 PM
In fact, I’d say that’s a probability judging by what we see right now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 03:11:25 PM
I don’t care what it “sounds like.” That’s what he got.

This is a completely meatball narrative by you. Like Fields does not call the plays, Getsy has to count on Fields actually throwing the ball downfield. Fields simply does not do it per the videos posted so far.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 03:12:01 PM
In fact, I’d say that’s a probability judging by what we see right now.

They had a bad last season too. Maybe they suck like Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 03:53:42 PM
This is a completely meatball narrative by you. Like Fields does not call the plays, Getsy has to count on Fields actually throwing the ball downfield. Fields simply does not do it per the videos posted so far.

You said “sounds like he had more targets.” He HAD 2. WTF are you talking about? You are talking out of your ass.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 03:54:19 PM
They had a bad last season too. Maybe they suck like Fields.

No shit…your brilliant analysis is noted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 03:56:21 PM
And if your narrative is that it’s Fields’ fault Moore didn’t get thrown to more, that’s when the coaches start drawing shit up designed to go to him. It’s not rocket science. You act like the coaches are just victims here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 03:58:15 PM
You said “sounds like he had more targets.” He HAD 2. WTF are you talking about? You are talking out of your ass.

He threw the ball over 10 yards 3 freakin times and we know that he had more opportunities and time to do so. Maybe Moore was only thrown to 2x since Fields refuses to throw the damned ball downfield and instead checks down? This is looking like a real possibility based on the videos coming out about him checking down instead of throwing the ball downfield.

Where are your videos of no one running routes downfield?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 03:59:10 PM
He threw the ball over 10 yards 3 freakin times and we know that he had more opportunities and time to do so. Maybe Moore was only thrown to 2x since Fields refuses to throw the damned ball downfield and instead checks down? This is looking like a real possibility based on the videos coming out about him checking down instead of throwing the ball downfield.

Where are your videos of no one running routes downfield?

DJ Moore literally said the screens and short passes were the bulk of the game plan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:00:12 PM
I’m sure no small number of those throws were garbage time, when he was just checking down every time. Which I personally didn’t care for. I didn’t like the way he and Gutless laid down at the end.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 04:00:25 PM
And if your narrative is that it’s Fields’ fault Moore didn’t get thrown to more, that’s when the coaches start drawing shit up designed to go to him. It’s not rocket science. You act like the coaches are just victims here.

The videos are proof that the coaches may be less guilty than you claim them to be.

Doesn't mean they do not suck. Means maybe they have not coached him up properly to actually focus on throwing the ball downfield.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:01:07 PM
He threw the ball over 10 yards 3 freakin times and we know that he had more opportunities and time to do so. Maybe Moore was only thrown to 2x since Fields refuses to throw the damned ball downfield and instead checks down? This is looking like a real possibility based on the videos coming out about him checking down instead of throwing the ball downfield.

Where are your videos of no one running routes downfield?

I’ll see what I can find. I actually have other responsibilities outside of arguing Bears on the Internets.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 04:01:28 PM
I’m sure no small number of those throws were garbage time, when he was just checking down every time. Which I personally didn’t care for. I didn’t like the way he and Gutless laid down at the end.

If guys were open downfield and he checked down, is that Getsy's fault? Yes, in part, but not because of the play designs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 04:02:29 PM
No shit…your brilliant analysis is noted.

Hey, you are the guy who wants to exclude last year from the coaches' body of work. Not me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:03:41 PM
FML

(https://i.postimg.cc/sxBYX4k3/IMG-4828.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XBbG1dNP)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:04:34 PM
Hey, you are the guy who wants to exclude last year from the coaches' body of work. Not me.

I mean congratulations on recognizing that perhaps the line is not very good. Very astute analysis on your part.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 04:06:05 PM
I mean congratulations on recognizing that perhaps the line is not very good. Very astute analysis on your part.

Well, you did not want Jalen Carter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:08:54 PM
Well, you did not want Jalen Carter.

I literally said they should have drafted him and if they couldn’t trade him for something juicy then they’d be “stuck” with perhaps the best player in the draft. Spark and I argued for pages over this.

I did not want him at #1 or even top 5. Once he fell to 9, the metrics change.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:09:50 PM
Well, you did not want Jalen Carter.

And also, I was talking the O-Line. Glad you are “keeping up.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 11, 2023, 04:11:02 PM
Speaking of Spark, where the fuck is he? Not that I give a shit, really. Just wondering if he got his feelings hurt or something.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:14:00 PM
Speaking of Spark, where the fuck is he? Not that I give a shit, really. Just wondering if he got his feelings hurt or something.

Probably. “Tired of me misrepresenting his points” I guess.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:14:47 PM
A lot of really really good Fields discussion on The Score today. Too bad they are beneath you guys to listen to.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 04:16:16 PM
And also, I was talking the O-Line. Glad you are “keeping up.”

You didn't want Wright either.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 04:17:11 PM
A lot of really really good Fields discussion on The Score today. Too bad they are beneath you guys to listen to.

If it is them thinking that the trade for Moore means they trust Fields now, we are not missing anything because they are fucking morons.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:35:29 PM
You didn't want Wright either.

I was “ok with it.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:36:24 PM
If it is them thinking that the trade for Moore means they trust Fields now, we are not missing anything because they are fucking morons.

Well, it’s a lot of stuff, and it’s multi-layered. Make sure you give me a Dan McNeil recap.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 04:42:47 PM
But for arguments sake, why would they make DJ Moore the centerpiece for the trade and not try to replace Fields if they didn’t trust him to get him the ball? But that’s a minor point. If they didn’t trust him, they should have gotten rid of him. Or at the very least gotten him some competition.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 04:54:56 PM
Well, it’s a lot of stuff, and it’s multi-layered. Make sure you give me a Dan McNeil recap.

Fair enough!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 05:05:53 PM
But for arguments sake, why would they make DJ Moore the centerpiece for the trade and not try to replace Fields if they didn’t trust him to get him the ball? But that’s a minor point. If they didn’t trust him, they should have gotten rid of him. Or at the very least gotten him some competition.

I am not going to disagree. I will suggest you look at the timeline though. April they made the trade, right? OTAs were July. If they really really thought they could coach him up, and you sent us all the "he's working hard in the offseason" puff pieces, then why would they trade him? 

I have also suggested to you that maybe they did not like this year's QB draft class (hell, we all know you can find negative and positive assessments each year for each guy) and so they decided to hold onto him simply because they are looking at the rebuild extending past the conclusion of his current contract. (Granted, if they get the 1st pick this year too, they are picking Caleb Williams short of injury, whatever, etc.)

Now we get to July-August and they are seeing Fields has not advanced as they thought. Let's be honest: They had zero competition in camp for any of the projected starters. Now they have to game plan around his deficiencies.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 05:24:51 PM
There is next to no chance they get the 1st pick. They may well end up with two top 10s, that’s on the table. Virtually no chance they get the #1.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 05:28:46 PM
I am not going to disagree. I will suggest you look at the timeline though. April they made the trade, right? OTAs were July. If they really really thought they could coach him up, and you sent us all the "he's working hard in the offseason" puff pieces, then why would they trade him? 

I have also suggested to you that maybe they did not like this year's QB draft class (hell, we all know you can find negative and positive assessments each year for each guy) and so they decided to hold onto him simply because they are looking at the rebuild extending past the conclusion of his current contract. (Granted, if they get the 1st pick this year too, they are picking Caleb Williams short of injury, whatever, etc.)

Now we get to July-August and they are seeing Fields has not advanced as they thought. Let's be honest: They had zero competition in camp for any of the projected starters. Now they have to game plan around his deficiencies.

By all accounts, Flus and the coaching staff are under no real pressure to “win big” this year. Even Poles said the team is only “70% built.” They need to FIND OUT if Fields can play. Your line sucks, your defense is suspect. You need to SCORE POINTS. Let Fields play his game. If he fails or gets hurt, and you know for sure that you should keep him or move on. I’m not a big fan of the designed runs, but there was exactly one designed run yesterday. And again, he was by far the most productive runner.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 05:30:26 PM
I think Parkins is on to something when he says the Bears may be coaching the Justin Fields out of Justin Fields (ohhhhhhh, Danny Parkins!). And he says, that’s not to say that Fields didn’t have plenty to work on.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 05:37:47 PM
There is next to no chance they get the 1st pick. They may well end up with two top 10s, that’s on the table. Virtually no chance they get the #1.

I do not disagree, thus the use of "if."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 05:39:30 PM
I think Parkins is on to something when he says the Bears may be coaching the Justin Fields out of Justin Fields (ohhhhhhh, Danny Parkins!). And he says, that’s not to say that Fields didn’t have plenty to work on.

I am guessing they are trying to coach him to be an NFL passing QB and are having problems doing so.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 05:42:57 PM
By all accounts, Flus and the coaching staff are under no real pressure to “win big” this year. Even Poles said the team is only “70% built.” They need to FIND OUT if Fields can play. Your line sucks, your defense is suspect. You need to SCORE POINTS. Let Fields play his game. If he fails or gets hurt, and you know for sure that you should keep him or move on. I’m not a big fan of the designed runs, but there was exactly one designed run yesterday. And again, he was by far the most productive runner.

Odds are they will change the offense in a few weeks if the issues we saw yesterday persist. This could be a rerun of last year with the change in the offense following the bye to let him just throw long and run amuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 05:58:04 PM
I am guessing they are trying to coach him to be an NFL passing QB and are having problems doing so.

This is like talking to a baby. The responses I get are about as intelligent.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 05:58:53 PM
I’d the coaches can’t figure out what offense to run isn’t that largely on them?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 06:56:12 PM
Kyler Gordon has a hand injury that could mean significant time missed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 08:20:31 PM
This is like talking to a baby. The responses I get are about as intelligent.

And you keep asking why they are not throwing down field when the answer has been provided here 9 billion times. Judge Judy explained it perfectly yesterday. You refuse to understand it or it is a bit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 08:21:41 PM
I’d the coaches can’t figure out what offense to run isn’t that largely on them?

If the QB cannot figure out the offense isn't that on him?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 09:05:03 PM
And you keep asking why they are not throwing down field when the answer has been provided here 9 billion times. Judge Judy explained it perfectly yesterday. You refuse to understand it or it is a bit.

I love how you think it all boils down to one thing. Fields. Lmao. As if he’s the only reason. Hilarious.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 09:06:03 PM
Fields can’t be running so much, it’s reckless! He’ll get hurt! - HQ2 “football experts”

Josh Allen:

(https://i.postimg.cc/2ycDV3LM/IMG-4833.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bStM5yT9)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 09:14:18 PM
I love how you think it all boils down to one thing. Fields. Lmao. As if he’s the only reason. Hilarious.

Coaches have realized they have not done a good enough job breaking his bad habits. Thus the effort to protect him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 09:15:04 PM
Coaches have realized they have not done a good enough job breaking his bad habits. Thus the effort to protect him.

Narrative machine!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 11, 2023, 10:07:05 PM
As if Jalen Carter killin it this past weekend, it appears Paris Johnson and Dawand Jones did too.

https://x.com/nflrookiewatxh/status/1701304666812743838?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 12, 2023, 09:50:41 AM
No surprises. I’m willing to give them a pass on Carter, though. My primary beef was they gave him away to the defending NFC Champion for next to nothing (but they got something for a guy they didn’t want!).

https://beargoggleson.com/posts/major-mistakes-chicago-bears-gm-ryan-poles-paying/3
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 12, 2023, 08:10:18 PM
Started 15 games with the Bengals last year before getting hurt, worth a look.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9MQhTBXD/IMG-4859.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7ppcryF)

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on September 15, 2023, 03:10:23 PM
Not sure if this was ever shared, but I think it's humorous. I try to read a lot of Drew's WYTS articles.

https://defector.com/why-your-team-sucks-2023-chicago-bears
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 15, 2023, 06:50:40 PM
Some fair analysis from Olin Kreutz

https://go.audacy.com/rRiB2meT7Cb
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 12:17:14 PM
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/nate-davis-darnell-wright-o-line-have-a-lot-to-work-on-after-bears-flop-vs-packers/507129/


Ouch. “The injury to Teven Jenkins forced them to shuffle things up, and a group of five that took zero snaps together in the preseason predictably struggled”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 16, 2023, 12:39:28 PM
Illini game on Tempo, quit fucking obsessing about the fucking Bears and Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 01:34:19 PM
Illini game on Tempo, quit fucking obsessing about the fucking Bears and Fields.

Bears > Illini
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 16, 2023, 02:00:30 PM
Professional sports that incentivize losing are pretty stupid.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 02:07:01 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 16, 2023, 02:18:12 PM
Makes sense that you like them so much though
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 02:47:26 PM
Makes sense that you like them so much though

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 02:47:47 PM
Says the die-hard Illini fan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 02:49:12 PM
I think it would be nearly impossible to come up with a better pro/college parallel than Bears/Illini.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 16, 2023, 03:10:02 PM
I think it would be nearly impossible to come up with a better pro/college parallel than Bears/Illini.

I 100% agree with this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 04:01:32 PM
Wish id remembered it then; Can’t find the thread but a couple/three days ago PAMan said “Fields not being about to beat our (incumbent) Jake Fromm(returning freshman all-American) says a lot about Fields.” Paraphrasing, a little. I know he hates that lol

Then today I remembered the time Joe Burrow lost his job to Duane Haskins.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2023, 04:04:26 PM
Wish id remembered it then; Can’t find the thread but a couple/three days ago PAMan said “Fields not being about to beat our (incumbent) Jake Fromm(returning freshman all-American) says a lot about Fields.” Paraphrasing, a little. I know he hates that lol

Then today I remembered the time Joe Burrow lost his job to Duane Haskins.

As we all know, OSU is lousy at recognizing  and developing QBs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2023, 04:13:19 PM
Wish id remembered it then; Can’t find the thread but a couple/three days ago PAMan said “Fields not being about to beat our (incumbent) Jake Fromm(returning freshman all-American) says a lot about Fields.” Paraphrasing, a little. I know he hates that lol

Then today I remembered the time Joe Burrow lost his job to Duane Haskins.

Joe Burrow did not "lose" his job. He was a 3 star. The story is that Burrow was not given a special no hit jersey during the spring game and got his ass kicked with the third team and said "fuck this, I'm out of here." The rest was history. How'd that work out for OSU?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 04:23:32 PM
The point is it’s dumb to judge quarterbacks by what they did as 18 year olds
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 04:24:16 PM
Arch Manning must be a bust since he couldn’t beat out Quinton Ewers or whatever his name is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 04:24:46 PM
Alexa, a rock solid source told me Burrow lost the job to Haskins…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2023, 04:33:40 PM
Arch Manning must be a bust since he couldn’t beat out Quinton Ewers or whatever his name is.

He's a freshman isn't it?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2023, 04:34:33 PM
The point is it’s dumb to judge quarterbacks by what they did as 18 year olds

How about as 22 and 23 year olds?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 04:36:38 PM
He's a freshman isn't it?

Yes, which is when Fields didn’t beat out Fromm.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 04:37:22 PM
How about as 22 and 23 year olds?

As prospects. As pros, I’d wait until 25-26.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 04:38:39 PM
Literally everyone though Tua was straight trash in his 2nd year. Then he got some weapons and he’s an All-Pro candidate, when he’s not concussed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2023, 04:39:35 PM
Yes, which is when Fields didn’t beat out Fromm.

Was Fromm highly ranked? Burrow wasn't, we know that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 04:57:19 PM
Was Fromm highly ranked? Burrow wasn't, we know that.

Apparently.

(https://i.postimg.cc/0yXrL2Lt/IMG-4888.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2023, 05:05:59 PM
Apparently.

(https://i.postimg.cc/0yXrL2Lt/IMG-4888.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Probably.  Wasn't he a game manager type at Georgia?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 16, 2023, 05:20:53 PM
I’d say these are better than game manager” numbers in college.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qBCJ7xWx/IMG-4889.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 16, 2023, 05:29:13 PM
I’d say these are better than game manager” numbers in college.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qBCJ7xWx/IMG-4889.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Looks that way
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2023, 03:47:15 PM
12 losses in a row. But at least Eberlose didn't give up 30+ points this game. Baby steps.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 04:13:33 PM
12 losses in a row. But at least Eberlose didn't give up 30+ points this game. Baby steps.

Was hoping for a nice leap, but it appears baby steps is more realistic. Not good enough up front on either side, too many self-inflicted mistakes. Too much predicability in play-calling. Looking at you, two RB screen passes in a row from the 6 Luke Getsy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 04:14:03 PM
And a QB who isn’t at a place where he can elevate his teammates regularly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2023, 04:28:03 PM
Was hoping for a nice leap, but it appears baby steps is more realistic. Not good enough up front on either side, too many self-inflicted mistakes. Too much predicability in play-calling. Looking at you, two RB screen passes in a row from the 6 Luke Getsy.

I was being sarcastic about the baby steps. That was bad.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on September 17, 2023, 10:32:44 PM
[quote author=Tempo34 link=topic=607.msg92511#msg92511 date=1694893752]
I think it would be nearly impossible to come up with a better pro/college parallel than Bears/Illini.
[/quote]

The Illini don’t get rewarded for being terrible, which is the entire point.

Losing on purpose actively undermines the integrity of the leagues that promulgate it. It makes for a bunch of shitty games where one team isn’t even trying to win. It’s a bunch of bull shit that undermines the spirit of competition. Even the loser NFL and NBA franchises print money. I’m totally disenchanted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 09:01:31 PM
Wish we had a Nick Bosa or a TJ Watt.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 09:51:36 PM
Wish we had a Nick Bosa or a TJ Watt.

How about Jalen Carter?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 11:44:24 PM
How about Jalen Carter?

I’d probably settle for that, but hey, we got a draft pick for a guy we didn’t want!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 20, 2023, 11:48:45 AM
LT Braxton Jones to injures reserve with a neck injury…

https://x.com/bradbiggs/status/1704527684565430650?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Looks like another tank is on…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 11:51:15 AM
LT Braxton Jones to injures reserve with a neck injury…

https://x.com/bradbiggs/status/1704527684565430650?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Looks like another tank is on…

Look on the bright side, none of the poor results can now be placed on Poles, Eberlose, Getsy, or Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 12:32:08 PM
Ouch. How does this come to light on Weds?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 12:33:40 PM
Another screw up by Poles not to bring in a reserve LT or competition for the 5th rounder. The errors are starting to pile up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 12:51:57 PM
Another screw up by Poles not to bring in a reserve LT or competition for the 5th rounder. The errors are starting to pile up.

How could no one see this when Poles picked Velus Jones?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 12:58:44 PM
How could no one see this when Poles picked Velus Jones?

See what? I was on record as hating that pick the day it was made. If you’re in college 6 years and only have one good season, you’re not good at football.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 12:59:52 PM
See what? I was on record as hating that pick the day it was made. If you’re in college 6 years and only have one good season, you’re not good at football.

That Poles is not going to be good at his job constructing a team.

Does Bryce Young having an ankle help or hurt the cause?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 01:05:36 PM
That Poles is not going to be good at his job constructing a team.

Does Bryce Young having an ankle help or hurt the cause?

I never expected Poles to come in and be error free. Every GM makes mistakes. The Niners gave up 3 1sts and a 3rd fo draft Trey Lance. And they are the best team in football right now. It’s how you respond to and fix those errors that’s as important as anything else.

Bryce Young “has an ankle?” I’m guessing you’re saying he’s hurt?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 01:06:59 PM
If he’s hurt, how does that hurt our cause?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 02:13:26 PM
If he’s hurt, how does that hurt our cause?

He is held out of practice today. Is his replacement better or worse, right now, than Young is?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 02:25:00 PM
It’s Andy Dalton. So at this point, probably better.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 21, 2023, 02:57:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6kf_YKXsAAW0nJ?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 03:30:42 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6kf_YKXsAAW0nJ?format=jpg&name=large)

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 22, 2023, 07:16:16 PM
Lol WTF

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bears/2023/09/22/chicago-bears-equipment-stolen-soldier-field/70935165007/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 22, 2023, 07:24:15 PM
So good…

https://x.com/bearweatherfans/status/1704951288998584604?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 26, 2023, 09:01:19 PM
This is a concern. Have to admit that the red flags with Eberflus are becoming more evident. I’m not out on Flus, but I’m less confident in him than I was going into the season.

https://beargoggleson.com/posts/chicago-bears-matt-eberflus-injury-report-tyrique-stevenson
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 26, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
What I would give for 20 minutes of honest conversation with Kevin Warren. Whatcha’ thinking buddy?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on September 26, 2023, 09:40:09 PM
What I would give for 20 minutes of honest conversation with Kevin Warren. Whatcha’ thinking buddy?

"Why didn't I listen to The PAThey about the stadium in Arlington Heights?"
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 27, 2023, 05:06:40 PM
Parkins and Spiegel just had former director of player personnel for the Bears Josh Lucas on. It was fucking fascinating. I missed some of it, so need to go back and re-listen. Talked about drafting Mitch, Justin. Not drafting Mahomes, Watson etc. incredibly interesting stuff. Definitely recommend you go back and listen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 27, 2023, 05:11:19 PM
Something interesting he said was that neither Mitch nor Justin had enough college starts. Says those reps are “invaluable.”

Was fascinating listening to him talk about the organizational thought behind drafting Mitch. Said Mahomes was their 2nd choice. Really interesting radio.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 29, 2023, 05:09:24 PM
Somehow, the Chase Claypool trade looks worse and worse every day.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 29, 2023, 05:35:19 PM
Somehow, the Chase Claypool trade looks worse and worse every day.

He’s in a place where the QB can’t/doesn’t throw the ball…

If you don’t think DJ Moore is thinking the same thing, you’re crazy…

Or Mooney is frustrated with this being a contract year as well…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on September 29, 2023, 05:37:24 PM
He’s in a place where the QB can’t/doesn’t throw the ball…

If you don’t think DJ Moore is thinking the same thing, you’re crazy…

Or Mooney is frustrated with this being a contract year as well…
Fields doesn't call the plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 29, 2023, 05:44:36 PM
He’s in a place where the QB can’t/doesn’t throw the ball…

If you don’t think DJ Moore is thinking the same thing, you’re crazy…

Or Mooney is frustrated with this being a contract year as well…

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 29, 2023, 05:45:14 PM
Fields doesn't call the plays.

You’re nothing if not consistent.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 29, 2023, 05:57:20 PM
Lol

What’s funny?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 29, 2023, 06:05:08 PM
What’s funny?!

There isn’t a single person who thinks Claypool’s effort or performance has been even adequate, yet you go out your way to blame Fields. More and more people are calling out the scheme and coaching. There’s plenty of blame to go around.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 29, 2023, 06:06:11 PM
Fields doesn't call the plays.

True. He’s not calling the 22 RB screens every game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on September 29, 2023, 06:08:45 PM
There’s a reason Pittsburgh unloaded him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on September 30, 2023, 04:09:57 PM
Do it…

https://x.com/nflnotify/status/1708203739327214002?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 01, 2023, 09:22:22 AM
Looks like the coaches finally figured out how to properly utilize Chase Claypool!

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1708422670453187036?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 01, 2023, 09:23:44 AM
Fields doesn't call the plays.

Fields also doesn’t decide who’s inactive!

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1708422670453187036?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 01, 2023, 09:29:11 AM
Fields also doesn’t decide who’s inactive!

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1708422670453187036?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Maybe Fields told Flus to run the ball and play ESB because of his blocking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 01, 2023, 09:35:38 AM
Looks like the coaches finally figured out how to properly utilize Tyson Bagent!

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1708422670453187036?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Fixed it for ya. When does he see the field ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 01, 2023, 09:39:42 AM
Will we see Bagent move the last place guy down to #35 ?

(https://i.ibb.co/ThBv5SL/Screenshot-20231001-091747-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZT6LCPm)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 01, 2023, 10:18:14 AM
The only thing that keeps Mn from seizing champion board troll status from PAMan is volume.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 01, 2023, 10:32:05 AM
On a scale of 1 to 10 how much does Claypool’s agent hate him, and why is it a 13?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 01, 2023, 10:50:26 AM
Who 's trolling who ? 😂😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 01, 2023, 11:01:17 PM
Who 's trolling who ? 😂😂

No shit. How has that Belichick CuLTurE comment  aged? Worst Fucking Coach in Bear History (which is saying something).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 02:05:56 AM
No shit. How has that Belichick CuLTurE comment  aged? Worst Fucking Coach in Bear History (which is saying something).

Not there yet, but it's trending poorly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2023, 09:54:23 AM
Not there yet, but it's trending poorly.

How is he not there yet? All these consecutive losses and giving up 20 points or more each game? Worst 4th quarter melt down in franchise history?

What exactly are you waiting for???
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 02:10:44 PM
How is he not there yet? All these consecutive losses and giving up 20 points or more each game? Worst 4th quarter melt down in franchise history?

What exactly are you waiting for???

Again, last years’ roster was arguably the worst Bears roster I’ve seen since Walter Payton was a youngster. And that was largely by design.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2023, 02:35:34 PM
Again, last years’ roster was arguably the worst Bears roster I’ve seen since Walter Payton was a youngster. And that was largely by design.

And they are even worse. The KuLtURE you hung your hat on last year has gone away faster than Montgomery leaving for the Lion the first chance he got.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 02:42:30 PM
I haven’t gotten caught up yet if there were any more posts, but I would just like to add that Don Shula in his prime would not have won with last year‘s Bears roster.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: frankiew on October 02, 2023, 03:16:51 PM
I haven’t gotten caught up yet if there were any more posts, but I would just like to add that Don Shula in his prime would not have won with last year‘s Bears roster.

You don't know that
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2023, 03:28:21 PM
You don't know that

Of course he doesn't. He's been proven wrong on so much stuff that now he relies upon proclamations that can neither be proven nor disproven.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2023, 03:38:04 PM
Apparently I've missed over the years the teams who are tanking, Tanking for Tua!, who gave up 25 points or more in 14 consecutive games.

Your hot take is laughable, Tempo. Laugh-a-ble.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 04:12:14 PM
You don't know that

Yes, I do. The roster lead the league in dead cap space and one-year contracts. Last years’ problem wasn’t “coaching.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 04:12:56 PM
Apparently I've missed over the years the teams who are tanking, Tanking for Tua!, who gave up 25 points or more in 14 consecutive games.

Your hot take is laughable, Tempo. Laugh-a-ble.

Which “hot take?”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 04:13:38 PM
Of course he doesn't. He's been proven wrong on so much stuff that now he relies upon proclamations that can neither be proven nor disproven.

You’re dumber than dirt if you think last years’ roster had enough talent to be a good team.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2023, 04:39:15 PM
You’re dumber than dirt if you think last years’ roster had enough talent to be a good team.

Said by no one here.

This team should not be this bad.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 02, 2023, 05:57:00 PM
Last years’ problem wasn’t “coaching.”
They kept that in their back pocket for this year. 😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 05:58:00 PM
Said by no one here.

This team should not be this bad.

Dude, you bitched incessantly about “why aren’t the Bears winning?” Last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 05:58:37 PM
They kept that in their back pocket for this year. 😂

Apparently. Coaching still wasn’t the reason the Bears were bad last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2023, 07:25:50 PM
Dude, you bitched incessantly about “why aren’t the Bears winning?” Last year.

Yeah, because they were 3-4 and gave up a chance to win a crap division. Now the rebuild is going worse than the tank.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 02, 2023, 07:49:20 PM
Apparently. Coaching still wasn’t the reason the Bears were bad last year.

Well, the talent is just as bad this year, if not worse. So, why is it coaching now?

They chose to dump the talent they had last year to tank. They have not adequately replaced what they gave up. Those free agent backers suck. And we still have zero pass rush.

I think the coaches suck too. But they also sucked last year. The “tank” masked a lot of shit.

This whole Bears thing is dogshit. Period.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 02, 2023, 07:58:01 PM
3-18 lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 02, 2023, 09:46:16 PM
Well, the talent is just as bad this year, if not worse. So, why is it coaching now?

They chose to dump the talent they had last year to tank. They have not adequately replaced what they gave up. Those free agent backers suck. And we still have zero pass rush.

I think the coaches suck too. But they also sucked last year. The “tank” masked a lot of shit.

This whole Bears thing is dogshit. Period.

It’s almost like the organization is trash.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 02, 2023, 10:10:17 PM
It’s almost like the organization is trash.

Yeah kinda
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 10:27:05 PM
Well, the talent is just as bad this year, if not worse. So, why is it coaching now?

They chose to dump the talent they had last year to tank. They have not adequately replaced what they gave up. Those free agent backers suck. And we still have zero pass rush.


I wouldn’t say the talent is just as bad. They have like 30+ new guys on the roster. This roster is not as good as we’d hoped, but injuries aren’t helping. They are missing arguably their two best OL (the entire left side), and yesterday were missing 4 of their top 5 players in the secondary.

This team is still in transition. It’s way too early to say the rebuild has failed, but it’s certainly having some difficulties integrating so many new/young players. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like this coaching staff is up to the task of righting the ship.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 10:29:00 PM
Truthfully, we’ll know a lot more about how good the rebuild is next year about this time. Unfortunately, it looks like there will be many more changes to come.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 10:30:10 PM
So in other words a revamp of the rebuild. Probably will have new coaches, good chance a new QB who is likely to be a rookie.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 10:30:32 PM
It’s almost like the organization is trash.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 10:37:21 PM
So what’s everyone’s position on Claypool?

I say invite him back to the building next week. Missing two games is pretty severe. You gave up a lot to get him. Little chance you’ll get anything for him. The season and coaching staff is pretty disastrous, anyway. If you weren’t so starved for talent I could see cutting him. We know he can play at a decent level. I’ll bet his agent hates him right now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2023, 10:47:53 PM
Lot o' excuses and wait until next year talk.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 02, 2023, 10:50:56 PM
It situations such as these, i.e, Tim Beckman piloting a flaming dumpster fire down shit’s creek without a paddle, I tend to pin the blame at the very top.

Who hired Marc “offensive Lou Tepper” Trestman? John “camo retirement mode” Fox? Matt “BE YOU” Nagy? Drafted Mitch instead of Mahomes? Made the trade for Khalil Mack?

Who drafted Justin Fields, one of the least productive QBs in the league, and who hired the people who were supposed to develop him/protect him/catch his passes?

Who is ultimately in charge of a storied franchise that is setting records for all the wrong reasons? A franchise that has become a complete and utter joke to their century old “rivals?”

Blaming a systemic shitshow like the Bears on Luke “putz” Getsy is very, very low thinking. It’s like blaming a population for the failings of their tinpot dictator.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2023, 10:53:27 PM
Illini Legends = Custard is a match?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 11:00:17 PM
I was really hoping that Poles would flip Claypool for Mike Evans. I thought for sure Tampa would be looking to dump salary. Claypool and a 3rd or 4th might have gotten it done. I can’t imagine Tampa is going to re-sign Evans at his age. Not old, but they would be looking to rebuild I’d think.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 02, 2023, 11:02:35 PM
Why would anyone want Claypool? No one wanted him last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 02, 2023, 11:11:09 PM
I love that Tempo is so invested he’s thinking about Claypool and Mike Evans and picks and shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 11:26:13 PM
Lot o' excuses and wait until next year talk.

PAMan DEMANDS excellence! And he wants it right MEOW!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 11:26:53 PM
Why would anyone want Claypool? No one wanted him last year.

GB was prepared to give up a 2nd for him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 11:27:53 PM
I love that Tempo is so invested he’s thinking about Claypool and Mike Evans and picks and shit.

Kewl slam. I’ll bet you’ve never been “invested” in Illini recruits. As in ones that didn’t come here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 11:31:28 PM
It situations such as these, i.e, Tim Beckman piloting a flaming dumpster fire down shit’s creek without a paddle, I tend to pin the blame at the very top.

Who hired Marc “offensive Lou Tepper” Trestman? John “camo retirement mode” Fox? Matt “BE YOU” Nagy? Drafted Mitch instead of Mahomes? Made the trade for Khalil Mack?

Who drafted Justin Fields, one of the least productive QBs in the league, and who hired the people who were supposed to develop him/protect him/catch his passes?

Who is ultimately in charge of a storied franchise that is setting records for all the wrong reasons? A franchise that has become a complete and utter joke to their century old “rivals?”

Blaming a systemic shitshow like the Bears on Luke “putz” Getsy is very, very low thinking. It’s like blaming a population for the failings of their tinpot dictator.

That’s a lot of words from a guy who never wavered through a dozen years of Illini incompetence. Hell, a mostly lifetime of Illini incompetence.

Getsy isn’t “the” problem, he’s part of the problem. A significant part when it comes to Justin Fields and the offense, anyway.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 03, 2023, 07:34:06 AM
GB was prepared to give up a 2nd for him.

Bull. Shit.

If they wanted him they would have done what was needed to get him. This is a 49er Duping the Bear in the Mitch Trade level excuse making.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 03, 2023, 07:36:35 AM
PAMan DEMANDS excellence! And he wants it right MEOW!

I would have taken Not Looking Worse Than You Did After Your 3-4 Start Last Year.

The Tank is apparently still on and you forgot to tell or remind us as.you so often did last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 07:37:44 AM
Bull. Shit.

If they wanted him they would have done what was needed to get him. This is a 49er Duping the Bear in the Mitch Trade level excuse making.

Lol ok
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 03, 2023, 07:37:52 AM
That’s a lot of words from a guy who never wavered through a dozen years of Illini incompetence. Hell, a mostly lifetime of Illini incompetence.

Getsy isn’t “the” problem, he’s part of the problem. A significant part when it comes to Justin Fields and the offense, anyway.

Never Trust A Custard Fart is a compliment in your book?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 03, 2023, 07:38:17 AM
Lol ok
Poles = Pace is a match!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 03, 2023, 07:50:41 AM
Poles = Pace is a match!
That's not being fair to Pace.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 07:52:28 AM
That's not being fair to Pace.

Lol. Any one of us could have been as good as Ryan Pace.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 03, 2023, 12:22:04 PM
So it appears that Jim Harbaugh is gaining some traction as a potential HC possibility in Chicago next year…

I personally don’t see it happening just because he wants more control than what Poles is willing to give him I think. Poles wants to be the man and the only way Harbaugh would come is if he had say and total control in my opinion. Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 03, 2023, 12:24:51 PM
Say trade the 1st pick for a haul of 3-4 future 1st rounders, use the 2nd pick on somebody on OL (Fashunau) or WR (MHJ) and draft a guy like McCarthy later in the draft…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 02:22:41 PM
So it appears that Jim Harbaugh is gaining some traction as a potential HC possibility in Chicago next year…

I personally don’t see it happening just because he wants more control than what Poles is willing to give him I think. Poles wants to be the man and the only way Harbaugh would come is if he had say and total control in my opinion. Thoughts?

I’d rather have Ben Johnson or Shane Waldron.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 03, 2023, 04:10:43 PM
Ben Johnson has a really good O Line to work with....just saying.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 03, 2023, 04:14:10 PM
Ben Johnson has a really good O Line to work with....just saying.

I’m not a big Ben Johnson fan at all…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 03, 2023, 04:18:13 PM
I’d rather have Ben Johnson or Shane Waldron.

I’m not saying either one couldn’t succeed here, but man that a lot of “hoping” in those hires.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 03, 2023, 05:12:37 PM
Somebody should send a text.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 03, 2023, 06:11:57 PM
Somebody should send a text.

They would at least be flattered
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 08:06:16 PM
Ben Johnson has a really good O Line to work with....just saying.

So Justin Fields, doesn’t? Noted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 08:07:07 PM
I’m not saying either one couldn’t succeed here, but man that a lot of “hoping” in those hires.

As opposed to who?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 08:08:02 PM
Somebody should send a text.

Lame. Pathetic even. Why don’t you add something thoughtful on occasion instead of laying in the weeds taking weak potshots?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 08:09:16 PM
I’m not a big Ben Johnson fan at all…

Ok, again, who would you hire?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 08:09:39 PM
They would at least be flattered

Perhaps.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 03, 2023, 09:24:31 PM
So Justin Fields, doesn’t? Noted.
They are probably better than we think since he usually has all that time to hold onto the ball. Doubt they are "really good" though.

Explain how he is going to help without a QB who throws the ball to NFL open guys like Goff? Fields has sucked ass. What would Ben Johnson do with Fields? Say "get your sorry ass off my team, bitch ass turnover machine"?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 03, 2023, 09:27:17 PM
Ok, again, who would you hire?

In the famous words of someone, I think, “that’s not my job…”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 09:29:54 PM
In the famous words of someone, I think, “that’s not my job…”

Yet you have opinions on potential candidates.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 03, 2023, 09:30:37 PM
In the famous words of someone, I think, “that’s not my job…”

Good one, Judge Judy
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 09:43:12 PM
Good one, Judge Judy

Like I said, yet he has opinions on certain candidates.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 04, 2023, 02:58:38 AM
Seeing a rumor that if the Bears don’t win Thursday Flus is out. Just a rumor, but my gut tells me it might have legs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 04, 2023, 03:01:29 AM
Would have to think and outside person is brought into to oversee things until next season. Maybe a Mike Singletary.

Just looked up Leslie Frazier and it doesn’t appear he is currently employed. He’d be the perfect person to bring in. But he’d probably want the job permanently.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 04, 2023, 07:11:04 AM
Would have to think and outside person is brought into to oversee things until next season. Maybe a Mike Singletary.

Just looked up Leslie Frazier and it doesn’t appear he is currently employed. He’d be the perfect person to bring in. But he’d probably want the job permanently.
Did you just look up Frazier, or did you text him too ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 04, 2023, 08:26:40 AM
Did you just look up Frazier, or did you text him too ?

Are you still in 5th grade?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 04, 2023, 08:29:25 AM
Last night I heard an interview between national sports pundit Amy Lawrence and Amy Trask, former CEO of the Raiders. Imagine the idiocy my ears were exposed to listening to two WOMEN talking about FOOTBALL! Lol it was like listening to two toddlers discuss quantum physics.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 04, 2023, 08:47:35 AM
I knew you’d come around!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 04, 2023, 09:21:53 AM
Last night I heard an interview between national sports pundit Amy Lawrence and Amy Trask, former CEO of the Raiders. Imagine the idiocy my ears were exposed to listening to two WOMEN talking about FOOTBALL! Lol it was like listening to two toddlers discuss quantum physics.

Now if you could just shove your cock in their ass, you’ll have completed the transformation. AS LONG AS you didn’t feel bad afterwards by getting to do it just because of your white privilege…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 04, 2023, 10:46:50 AM
They might do it, but they might not but just because they've never done it doesn't mean they wouldn't do it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1709328497837998502
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 04, 2023, 11:00:02 AM
They might do it, but they might not but just because they've never done it doesn't mean they wouldn't do it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1709328497837998502

Peter King thinks they will fire Eberlose on Friday if they lose, but it would not surprise him if they didn't?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 04, 2023, 11:04:20 AM
Peter King thinks they will fire Eberlose on Friday if they lose, but it would not surprise him if they didn't?

He doesn’t call the shots…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 04, 2023, 11:34:46 AM
Peter King thinks they will fire Eberlose on Friday if they lose, but it would not surprise him if they didn't?
It's just a rumor.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: frankiew on October 04, 2023, 12:09:40 PM
Bring back Ditka
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 04, 2023, 01:20:04 PM
Dumb
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 04, 2023, 02:43:31 PM
Peter King thinks they will fire Eberlose on Friday if they lose, but it would not surprise him if they didn't?

Not buying it. Bears don’t fire coaches midseason.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 04, 2023, 02:55:12 PM
Not buying it. Bears don’t fire coaches midseason.

Never have. And I don't see them doing it now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 04, 2023, 03:06:23 PM
Let’s hope Kevin Warren does it. I wasn’t a fan when he was B1G commissioner, but this is a step in the right direction if he fires their asses!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 04, 2023, 04:41:55 PM
Not buying it. Bears don’t fire coaches midseason.

They’ve never had an outsider as President before. And Virginia is like 100 now. Bet she ain’t wanting to go out not having won a game in 365 days.

If they’re ever going to fire someone in season this would be it. I wonder if Flus takes Virginia to mass 3-4 times a week like Ryan Pace did…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 06, 2023, 07:49:45 AM
I didn't lock the Bear thread.

While Fields has looked good in 5 of the last 8 quarters, I would not let my head out over my skis. Competent teams are simply not going to let Moore run amuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 08:30:11 AM
Justin Fields leads the NFL in TD passes FTR.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 06, 2023, 09:03:13 AM
Fields and Cousins are tied at 11 with Fields playing 1 more game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 06, 2023, 09:04:59 AM
And Cousins is a Pizza Ranch spokesman so he gets the nod for now
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 09:32:46 AM
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Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 09:33:12 AM
Fields and Cousins are tied at 11 with Fields playing 1 more game.

Can always count on Mn to come in and knock down JF a few pegs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 09:35:26 AM
Fields and Cousins are tied at 11 with Fields playing 1 more game.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9XKtSNq4/IMG-5094.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3wgH775)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 09:36:05 AM
And Cousins is a Pizza Ranch spokesman so he gets the nod for now

That and he’s an anti-vaxxer, so probably your favorite player, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 06, 2023, 09:44:11 AM
Can always count on Mn to come in and knock down JF a few pegs.
They are tied at 11. Fields has 1 more game under his belt.
It's the reality and it's not knocking Fields.
But carry on.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 09:46:02 AM
They are tied at 11. Fields has 1 more game under his belt.
It's the reality and it's not knocking Fields.
But carry on.

What you said is true. But don’t pretend you said it for accuracies’ sake. You “check” everything on Fields every chance you get. It’s almost all you do.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 09:47:02 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/wBb7sbC5/IMG-5095.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3ymKs9JW)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 09:50:17 AM
Just saw a tweet that said Claypool will be traded to the Dolphins. Good landing spot for him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 06, 2023, 09:53:18 AM
What you said is true. But don’t pretend you said it for accuracies’ sake. You “check” everything on Fields every chance you get. It’s almost all you do.
What other reason would it be other than "accuracies' sake" ?


The Bears never get a break. Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 09:54:29 AM
Bears get a 6th round pick and give up a 7th. Lol. Hated the trade with Pittsburgh from the word Go. At least we don’t have to concern ourselves with him anymore.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 10:06:46 AM
Laurence Holmes made a good point just now; if Mooney doesn’t turn completely around on the early deep ball, good chance that’s a touchdown.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 06, 2023, 10:08:30 AM
It will be interesting to see what he does in Miami.

If Fields plays the rest of this season like he has the past two games, I’m all for keeping him 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 06, 2023, 10:23:43 AM
Laurence Holmes made a good point just now; if Mooney doesn’t turn completely around on the early deep ball, good chance that’s a touchdown.

Fields threw the ball inside instead of outside. C'mon, Tempo.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 10:24:32 AM
Fields threw the ball inside instead of outside. C'mon, Tempo.

And Mn’s little brother had something to add.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 06, 2023, 10:26:34 AM
And Mn’s little brother had something to add.

But PMan is right. It was in the wrong spot the direction he was headed and Mooney went all out to try and catch it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 06, 2023, 10:26:42 AM
And Mn’s little brother had something to add.

Not my fault you have an extreme allergic reaction to facts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 06, 2023, 10:27:21 AM
But PMan is right. It was in the wrong spot the direction he was headed and Mooney went all out to try and catch it.

We all saw it. Only the FFFs want to ignore it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 06, 2023, 10:55:55 AM
And Mn’s little brother had something to add.
I missed that. What did he say ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 11:39:29 AM
They are tied at 11. Fields has 1 more game under his belt.
It's the reality and it's not knocking Fields.
But carry on.

Who was the last Bears QB to lead the league in TD passes at ANY point?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 06, 2023, 11:59:30 AM
Who was the last Bears QB to lead the league in TD passes at ANY point?

You really want to go into "Who is the taller midget" territory?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 06, 2023, 12:31:08 PM
Who was the last Bears QB to lead the league in TD passes at ANY point?
When all else fails change the discussion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 06, 2023, 01:03:59 PM
Hey look guys, it’s Abbott and Costello; only without the humor.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 06, 2023, 02:28:10 PM
I thought Claypool had a chance to stand out here. He indeed stand out but for all the wrong reasons.

Adios pal.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jrock74 on October 06, 2023, 02:36:41 PM
It will be interesting to see what he does in Miami.

If Fields plays the rest of this season like he has the past two games, I’m all for keeping him 🤷🏻‍♂️

You only get to play Washington and Denver once this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 06, 2023, 03:13:03 PM
You only get to play Washington and Denver once this year.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/DFu7j1d1AQbaE/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47s25ulke55dk8up0orvns331jj7fw9ov0i256x9rw&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 06, 2023, 04:33:08 PM
You only get to play Washington and Denver once this year.

Fields does not pick the Bear's opponents.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 08, 2023, 05:08:33 PM
Herbert out multiple weeks probably.

Darrynton Evans back with the Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 08, 2023, 05:59:15 PM
Too many injuries this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 08, 2023, 07:08:45 PM
Too many injuries this year.

Maybe the Bear employ the Sox trainer and conditioning people.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 08, 2023, 08:21:51 PM
Wonder what it would take to get Michael Gallup in a trade. I think he’d be a good fit here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 08, 2023, 09:26:57 PM
I just took a look at Carolina’s schedule. There is a very decent chance we get the #1 pick from them.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 08, 2023, 09:30:41 PM
Nobody wanna compare Fields to Mahomes??? Lol

https://x.com/bearssznn/status/1711203532807049349?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 08, 2023, 09:40:41 PM
Nobody wanna compare Fields to Mahomes??? Lol

https://x.com/bearssznn/status/1711203532807049349?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Lol reminds me of the time Spark compared Trubisky to Mahomes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 08, 2023, 09:56:29 PM
Lol reminds me of the time Spark compared Trubisky to Mahomes.

That’s why I posted… 😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2023, 11:10:11 AM
Quote
The biggest question everyone has been asking about his team since the end of the draft is how much of his rebuilding project is done. Poles finally put a number on it at the end of August when he estimated he had checked 75%-80% of the boxes on his to-do list.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/10/9/23906945/chicago-bears-gm-ryan-poles-rebuild-roster-draft-salary-cap-space-2024-justin-fields-matt-eberflus

Quote
He hesitated before giving those figures, then added, “When the lights come on and we play a real game, the energy levels differ, the speed is different. We’ll be able to evaluate that as we go through the season.

“But ... on paper, I feel good about the progress, and I feel we took a chunk out of what we needed to.”

It’d be interesting to know what number Poles would put on it now that he has seen five weeks of mostly brutal performances by the Bears. They went into this extended break with a 40-20 win over the Commanders but were 0-4 and on a franchise-record 14-game losing streak before that.

Tempo, what is your percentage? I think it is at 34%
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2023, 11:58:03 AM
Couldn’t say. I need more than 5 games to determine.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2023, 12:02:42 PM
Read an article about an hour ago that stated “Velus Jones is not an actual WR,” and was saddened to be reminded of this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2023, 12:04:59 PM
Article also said Tyler Scott has been slow to catch on, which is also true. I liked what I read and heard about Scott after the draft, but if he fails we might want someone else other than Poles scouting WRs. Pringle: whiff. Jones: whiff. Claypool: huge whiff. Scott: TBD.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2023, 12:06:31 PM
Puka Nucua was drafted 44 some odd picks after Scott.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2023, 12:16:00 PM
Couldn’t say. I need more than 5 games to determine.

Not 3 to 5 games?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2023, 12:20:49 PM
Not 3 to 5 games?

Maybe more. A lot of 1st and 2nd year players that I don’t know are good/will be good yet. The FA signings are looking a little better the last couple of games, but a lot TBD.

Still have a lot of draft capital and FA money. Hopefully next years’ FA class is better. I honestly have not looked at that yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 09, 2023, 12:25:29 PM
Maybe more. A lot of 1st and 2nd year players that I don’t know are good/will be good yet. The FA signings are looking a little better the last couple of games, but a lot TBD.

Still have a lot of draft capital and FA money. Hopefully next years’ FA class is better. I honestly have not looked at that yet.

You advocated for a tank without knowing what free agency over the following couple of years looked like?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2023, 12:36:07 PM
You advocated for a tank without knowing what free agency over the following couple of years looked like?

It needed to be done regardless
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 09, 2023, 12:40:02 PM
They were bereft of draft capital and cap space it had to be done, teams are built primarily through the draft
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 15, 2023, 04:40:07 PM
Heard LaConfora on Tony Korneheiser's pod this week. He said that "people in the industry" (whatever that means) do not believe that Poles and Eberlose will be around for the 2024 draft.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 15, 2023, 04:46:29 PM
Heard LaConfora on Tony Korneheiser's pod this week. He said that "people in the industry" (whatever that means) do not believe that Poles and Eberlose will be around for the 2024 draft.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Poles gone as well. Let’s hope Warren shows us his balls, or vagina… 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 04:55:20 PM
Heard LaConfora on Tony Korneheiser's pod this week. He said that "people in the industry" (whatever that means) do not believe that Poles and Eberlose will be around for the 2024 draft.

This is the kind of scuttlebutt you would eviscerste me for. “I heard talking head yadda yadda!”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 15, 2023, 05:05:47 PM
This is the kind of scuttlebutt you would eviscerste me for. “I heard talking head yadda yadda!”

Good point…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 05:16:52 PM
If Fields had a critical sack/fumble/TD return and a horrifically underthrown chances ending pass, PAMan would be absolutely eviscerating him. Bagent does it and PAMan acts like his performance was borderline heroic. Comedy gold. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 05:26:03 PM
Fields costly turnover results in touchdown. Then throws interception to end game: “He sucks! What a loser!” - PAMan

Bagent costly turnover results in touchdown. Then throws interception to end game: (PAMan jizzes self)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 15, 2023, 05:30:02 PM
Fields costly turnover results in touchdown. Then throws interception to end game: “He sucks! What a loser!” - PAMan

Bagent costly turnover results in touchdown. Then throws interception to end game: (PAMan jizzes self)

Bagent was thrown into a game unexpectedly. His first NFL game.

You’re better than this. Nobody is saying Bagent is any good.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 05:32:37 PM
Honestly, I thought Bagent was doing fine until the shot wore off.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 05:33:50 PM
Bagent was thrown into a game unexpectedly. His first NFL game.

You’re better than this. Nobody is saying Bagent is any good.

Dude. These guys literally were parading their Bagent boners in fully glory when he was in.

I agree. He was about what we should expect him to be. He probably has a decent career as a backup ahead of him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 15, 2023, 06:08:42 PM
I think you need to adjust your sarcasm meter.

Beyond that, it’s not anyone’s fault here that the Bears suck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 15, 2023, 07:23:34 PM
If Fields had a critical sack/fumble/TD return and a horrifically underthrown chances ending pass, PAMan would be absolutely eviscerating him. Bagent does it and PAMan acts like his performance was borderline heroic. Comedy gold.

Miles has kicked your ass this afternoon/evening. He has completely destroyed you. It's sad. But comical.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 15, 2023, 07:49:59 PM
This is the kind of scuttlebutt you would eviscerste me for. “I heard talking head yadda yadda!”

I'll have to check if he posted it on Reddit.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 07:52:38 PM
I'll have to check if he posted it on Reddit.

Moronic insults. That’s about all you’ve got.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 07:53:20 PM
Miles has kicked your ass this afternoon/evening. He has completely destroyed you. It's sad. But comical.

He has? I didn’t notice. What did he say?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 15, 2023, 08:09:16 PM
He has? I didn’t notice. What did he say?

He's just destroying you left and right.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 08:34:46 PM
He's just destroying you left and right.

I can’t remember anything he’s said. Help me out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 15, 2023, 09:31:58 PM
He’s got a good point…

https://x.com/dacobjaniel/status/1713724637811532107?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 15, 2023, 09:35:28 PM
I can’t remember anything he’s said. Help me out.

Of course not since you are concussed from all the head shots he has landed today.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 15, 2023, 09:35:57 PM
He’s got a good point…

https://x.com/dacobjaniel/status/1713724637811532107?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
And the post he was replying to was ...

Jake @Jake_B30
"Ryan Poles has literally brought in 42 of the 53 active players on gameday… and it’s literally the worst team in the NFL."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 09:38:36 PM
He’s got a good point…

https://x.com/dacobjaniel/status/1713724637811532107?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Lolololololololol

Yes, I loved the days of bad contracts, no cap space and no draft picks. Fucking retarded take.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 15, 2023, 09:38:47 PM
Yep. If Pace got the QB right, Mahomes, could’ve been a Super Bowl team with the pieces we had from him in the team…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 10:03:19 PM
Yep. If Pace got the QB right, Mahomes, could’ve been a Super Bowl team with the pieces we had from him in the team…

Yeah, had we drafted perhaps the greatest quarterback of all time things might’ve been better genius take
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 10:05:07 PM
Could you imagine the cap hell the team would’ve been in with Mahomes as quarterback and Pace as GM lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 15, 2023, 10:12:48 PM
Look how far Mitch got us in 2018…

Just imagine if he hit on the/a good QB. The rest of the team was solid. Even Watson would’ve been better that year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 15, 2023, 10:47:50 PM
Eberloser is now 0-8 against the NFC North.

Sign me up for more of that HITS culture!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 15, 2023, 10:57:15 PM
4-20 now is he?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 15, 2023, 11:07:03 PM
4-20 now is he?

Will be 4-20 after the Raiders get done with them next week.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 11:14:11 PM
Look how far Mitch got us in 2018…

Just imagine if he hit on the/a good QB. The rest of the team was solid. Even Watson would’ve been better that year.

2018 could’ve been a Super Bowl year, but I am not confident that Ryan Pace could’ve sustained it, even with Mahomes covering up some of his stench.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 15, 2023, 11:48:05 PM
Will be 4-20 after the Raiders get done with them next week.

It’s pretty afucking amazing thet so many people can be told over and over that they literally didn’t put a product on the field that could be expected to win, yet criticize then for losing with a terrible roster.

Having said that, they should be better than 1-5 this season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 16, 2023, 07:00:59 AM
Dear Abby,
There's a hundred year old restaurant down the street that has had it's ups and downs over the years but the locals have always supported it.
New management was brought in recently and they got rid of the help that was any good but kept the flashy waitress and the less than adequate help. The product became the worst around and the worst in the 100 year history of the restaurant.
Fast forward to a lot of new employees and the product hasn't improved but management says they have plans to turn it around in another year or two with a lot of new employees. We're told to be patient and that the new help available in 2025 will get things turned around.
It seems as tho everyone wants the business to succeed but we have our doubts about the new management, their business model and their employee evaluations.
The employees are good hard-working people but the management business model of running the business into the ground with hopes that it will be better in a couple of years story has caused many of the locals to lose patience.
We have our doubts but we pack the place on most weekends and get yelled at by a guy who has fantasies about the flashy waitress who is good at running around the place but always fails to bring the dessert.
What should we do ?

 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 07:38:59 AM
Good one, Mn.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 16, 2023, 07:47:00 AM
It’s pretty afucking amazing thet so many people can be told over and over that they literally didn’t put a product on the field that could be expected to win, yet criticize then for losing with a terrible roster.

Having said that, they should be better than 1-5 this season.

So Eberflus can put his record on his resume, with an asterisk that it was so shitty because there was a tank in progress.

I'm not sure that's how it works.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 16, 2023, 08:30:24 AM
Dear Abby,
There's a hundred year old restaurant down the street that has had it's ups and downs over the years but the locals have always supported it.
New management was brought in recently and they got rid of the help that was any good but kept the flashy waitress and the less than adequate help. The product became the worst around and the worst in the 100 year history of the restaurant.
Fast forward to a lot of new employees and the product hasn't improved but management says they have plans to turn it around in another year or two with a lot of new employees. We're told to be patient and that the new help available in 2025 will get things turned around.
It seems as tho everyone wants the business to succeed but we have our doubts about the new management, their business model and their employee evaluations.
The employees are good hard-working people but the management business model of running the business into the ground with hopes that it will be better in a couple of years story has caused many of the locals to lose patience.
We have our doubts but we pack the place on most weekends and get yelled at by a guy who has fantasies about the flashy waitress who is good at running around the place but always fails to bring the dessert.
What should we do ?

POTD…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:36:45 AM
So Eberflus can put his record on his resume, with an asterisk that it was so shitty because there was a tank in progress.

I'm not sure that's how it works.

No, it doesn’t “work that way,” but a realist would understand they didn’t prioritize winning last year, in fact, they made it nearly impossible. Don Shula wasn’t winning with that group. It was a bottom 2-3 roster.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:45:20 AM
POTD…

Yes, for very dumb analogies.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:46:03 AM
The Bears are officially 6 games into the rebuild and so far it’s not going great. ZOMG!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:49:46 AM
I mean, I’m disappointed, too. But it’s too early to start talking rebuild on the rebuild. They literally have 30 something new players many of them rookies and 2nd year players. About the only thing you clearly need to move on from at the moment are Flus and Getsy. They look to be busts. It happens.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:53:34 AM
And before PAMan inevitably comes diving into the pile with his “but Belichick praised Eberlose for his kulture” comment; there was definitely a different vibe last year even though they were losing. Last years’ team practiced hard, played hard, and they preached accountability. None of that seems to be there for some reason this year. Last years’ team also played disciplined.

They had 10 days to prepare for Minnesota and came out listless and unprepared. I don’t hear about hard practices anymore, and I don’t hear about accountability. Flus said they brought Patrick in at center because he was “more experienced.” Bullshit. They brought him in because Whitehair had the yips.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 12:01:10 PM
And before PAMan inevitably comes diving into the pile with his “but Belichick praised Eberlose for his kulture” comment; there was definitely a different vibe last year even though they were losing. Last years’ team practiced hard, played hard, and they preached accountability. None of that seems to be there for some reason this year. Last years’ team also played disciplined.

They had 10 days to prepare for Minnesota and came out listless and unprepared. I don’t hear about hard practices anymore, and I don’t hear about accountability. Flus said they brought Patrick in at center because he was “more experienced.” Bullshit. They brought him in because Whitehair had the yips.

All those first and second year players on the team aren't as good as the ones they got rid of? Hmmmmmm.....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 12:30:09 PM
All those first and second year players on the team aren't as good as the ones they got rid of? Hmmmmmm.....

Are you really this fucking dumb?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 16, 2023, 12:36:49 PM
Like Eberlose was going to say Whitehair had the yips.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 12:42:05 PM
Like Eberlose was going to say Whitehair had the yips.

Just say he wasn’t playing well enough. The point is, he has a disturbing tendency to lie when he doesn’t need to.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 12:42:27 PM
Are you really this fucking dumb?

So the high priced FA LBs are not as good as Roquan. Got it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 12:43:05 PM
Like Eberlose was going to say Whitehair had the yips.

Maybe he is angling for a free vacation to the bench....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 12:43:24 PM
So the high priced FA LBs are not as good as Roquan. Got it.

JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 16, 2023, 12:51:35 PM
Yes, NFL coaches, and coaches at any level for that matter, have a history of being truthful.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 12:55:13 PM
So the high priced FA LBs are not as good as Roquan. Got it.

“As good as Roquan?” Perhaps not. But Edmunds and Edwards are good players. And they got rookie Gervon Dexter out of it. Who has shown potential. So basically they got three players for about the price of one. But then that’s a level of complexity im not sure you’re equipped to comprehend.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 01:07:20 PM
“As good as Roquan?” Perhaps not. But Edmunds and Edwards are good players. And they got rookie Gervon Dexter out of it. Who has shown potential. So basically they got three players for about the price of one. But then that’s a level of complexity im not sure you’re equipped to comprehend.

How have they shown to be "good players?"
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 01:22:12 PM
How have they shown to be "good players?"

They were “good players” with their previous teams. Have they lived up to expectations with the Bears yet? Perhaps not.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 16, 2023, 01:31:54 PM
"No surgery is imminent for Fields, per NFL Media, and the hope is for rehab to improve his grip strength and for him to get back onto the field as soon as possible. In the case of needing surgery, Fields would be out indefinitely."
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/justin-fields-injury-update-bears-qb-doubtful-for-week-7-vs-raiders-due-to-dislocated-thumb-on-throwing-hand/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 01:35:41 PM
"No surgery is imminent for Fields, per NFL Media, and the hope is for rehab to improve his grip strength and for him to get back onto the field as soon as possible. In the case of needing surgery, Fields would be out indefinitely."
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/justin-fields-injury-update-bears-qb-doubtful-for-week-7-vs-raiders-due-to-dislocated-thumb-on-throwing-hand/

Hopefully that’s true.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 16, 2023, 01:57:56 PM
Hopefully that’s true.

So, your Reddit guy was wrong?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 02:32:59 PM
Hopefully that’s true.

Me too. Get him his starts so there can be no excuses when the Bear move on next year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 03:06:18 PM
I have already sought to trademark "TB17." Suck it, Tom Brady!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 03:29:45 PM
So, your Reddit guy was wrong?

It wasn’t a Reddit guy, but thanks for not being disingenuous.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 03:31:02 PM
Me too. Get him his starts so there can be no excuses when the Bear move on next year.

I just want him to have a good shot to prove himself this year. I don’t see how a prolonged injury helps his chances of staying a Bear.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 03:34:40 PM
So, your Reddit guy was wrong?

And we’ll see. “My guy” was one those doctors who analyzes football players’ injuries and gives their best guess with the information available. His guess was surgery was “likely.” I never intended pretend I was breaking factual news. Just presenting opinions on what a sports injury doctor noted was probable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 16, 2023, 03:44:30 PM
It wasn’t a Reddit guy, but thanks for not being disingenuous.

You cite Reddit, then get upset when we make fun of you for citing Reddit.

Ok...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 16, 2023, 04:02:01 PM
And we’ll see. “My guy” was one those doctors who analyzes football players’ injuries and gives their best guess with the information available. His guess was surgery was “likely.” I never intended pretend I was breaking factual news. Just presenting opinions on what a sports injury doctor noted was probable.
Your sports injury analysis doctor is off to a good start here.
My doc usually says we'll run some tests 1st.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 16, 2023, 04:29:10 PM
Your sports injury analysis doctor is off to a good start here.
My doc usually says we'll run some tests 1st.

Your doc is obviously not AOTC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 05:07:09 PM
Your sports injury analysis doctor is off to a good start here.
My doc usually says we'll run some tests 1st.

Maybe DoctorintheFlat had to get his medical degree in the Caribbean?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 05:31:20 PM
You cite Reddit, then get upset when we make fun of you for citing Reddit.

Ok...

Making fun of me for “citing Reddit” is dumb in itself. It’s just another thing for you guys to glom on to.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 05:33:41 PM
Oh, Tempo cited The Score. Mully and Haugh, Bernstein and Holmes. Parkins and Speigel. Oh, tempo cited ESPN. Greenie, or whoever the other 56 sources of sports info I’ve been mocked for getting information from. It’s just part of your stupid bit.

Oh, Tim Jenkins lol Oh, Chase Daniel lol, oh JT O’Sullivan lol and on and on and on…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 05:36:49 PM
Your sports injury analysis doctor is off to a good start here.
My doc usually says we'll run some tests 1st.

In the video they always concede they are working on limited information and merely making their best guesses. I wasn’t posting as if I’d talked to Justin’s doctor. That’s why I didn’t say anything was for “certain.” Just probably scenarios.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 05:37:50 PM
I’m sorry you guys don’t understand how the sports info cycle works.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 05:39:13 PM
Your sports injury analysis doctor is off to a good start here.
My doc usually says we'll run some tests 1st.

One of the reasons I would never comment on your potential availability for a game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 16, 2023, 05:47:19 PM
The Bears hired some dude named Phil Snow as defensive analyst

Insert obvious Game of Thrones joke here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 06:24:04 PM
I’m sorry you guys don’t understand how the sports misinfo cycle works.

Fixed that for us.

Yeah, you have shown to be so much smarter than everyone else here! LOL.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 06:28:46 PM
Oh, Tempo cited The Score. Mully and Haugh, Bernstein and Holmes. Parkins and Speigel. Oh, tempo cited ESPN. Greenie, or whoever the other 56 sources of sports info I’ve been mocked for getting information from. It’s just part of your stupid bit.

Oh, Tim Jenkins lol Oh, Chase Daniel lol, oh JT O’Sullivan lol and on and on and on…

The problem is you actually think this is an impressive list....Greenie! Hysterical.

You forgot to include PFF. Which listed Stroud as the 10th best rookie, despite his being a statistical anomaly in the most important position in football, playing for a team that was as bad as the Bear last year, playing with a line just as bad as the Bear, playing with less weapons at WR than the Bear, and overcoming shitty coaching at OSU, yet having the Texans at 3-3.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 06:31:18 PM
Fixed that for us.

Yeah, you have shown to be so much smarter than everyone else here! LOL.

I love how no source is credible, unless it’s a source you are using. Convenient for you, I suppose.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 06:32:24 PM
Surgery still very much on the table.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bvphrtWy/IMG-5212.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 06:33:35 PM
The problem is you actually think this is an impressive list....Greenie! Hysterical.

You forgot to include PFF. Which listed Stroud as the 10th best rookie, despite his being a statistical anomaly in the most important position in football, playing for a team that was as bad as the Bear last year, playing with a line just as bad as the Bear, playing with less weapons at WR than the Bear, and overcoming shitty coaching at OSU, yet having the Texans at 3-3.

Again, I could use any source from anywhere, and you’d likely scoff at it. Unless that source was Hub Arkush or Dan McNeil. Or Dan Hampton.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 06:35:08 PM
The problem is you actually think this is an impressive list....Greenie! Hysterical.

You forgot to include PFF. Which listed Stroud as the 10th best rookie, despite his being a statistical anomaly in the most important position in football, playing for a team that was as bad as the Bear last year, playing with a line just as bad as the Bear, playing with less weapons at WR than the Bear, and overcoming shitty coaching at OSU, yet having the Texans at 3-3.

Again, that has to be a very valuable tool in your debate box. Discrediting any source of information or opinion that isn’t yours. Very useful tool to have indeed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 06:40:23 PM
Haha The Score. Haha Twitter. Haha Reddit. Haha YouTube. Haha ESPN. Haha PFF…and the list goes on and on and on…just like the PAMan narrative machine.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 06:46:03 PM
I love how no source is credible, unless it’s a source you are using. Convenient for you, I suppose.

The Score guys, Parkins!, and Greenie. Awesome list.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 07:37:02 PM
The Score guys, Parkins!, and Greenie. Awesome list.

And about 35 others you’ve rejected over the past couple years.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 07:42:13 PM
And about 35 others you’ve rejected over the past couple years.

All the ones that you posted saying that QB1 was a possible franchise QB, despite his obvious inability to read defenses (especially zone defenses).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 16, 2023, 08:02:21 PM
And about 35 others you’ve rejected over the past couple years.

Just keep throwing the links up. And I’ll keep not reading them. And I’ll still know when a football team sucks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 08:14:55 PM
Just keep throwing the links up. And I’ll keep not reading them. And I’ll still know when a football team sucks.

Maybe we will get some Skip Bayless links.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:15:48 PM
Just keep throwing the links up. And I’ll keep not reading them. And I’ll still know when a football team sucks.

You got it, buckaroo! 👍🏼
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 16, 2023, 08:20:02 PM
Maybe we will get some Skip Bayless links.

Oh fuck, I hope so. We already got Cowherd. Between that and Reddit, we’re truly blessed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:29:54 PM
Maybe we will get some Skip Bayless links.

Maybe you’ll develop some
new schtick. But I doubt it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:31:04 PM
Oh fuck, I hope so. We already got Cowherd. Between that and Reddit, we’re truly blessed.

And you guys wonder why I call you assholes. You guys can’t have a sincere discussion for more than two posts. It’s just childish bullshit as always.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 08:33:24 PM
And you guys wonder why I call you assholes. You guys can’t have a sincere discussion for more than two posts. It’s just childish bullshit as always.

You don't think the Justin Fields fluffing is like beating a dead horse at this point?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 16, 2023, 08:33:53 PM
Discrediting any source of information or opinion that isn’t yours.

That’s EXACTLY how you do politics/current events; Scoff at/refuse to read any source that isn’t on your very narrow list of approved sources.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:34:48 PM
You don't think the Justin Fields fluffing is like beating a dead horse at this point?

You’re free to ignore all Justin Fields threads. I’m sorry you find someone disagreeing with your football opinions so offensive.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:35:40 PM
That’s EXACTLY how you do politics/current events; Scoff at/refuse to read any source that isn’t on your very narrow list of approved sources.

Give me some examples of your preferred news sources.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 08:36:10 PM
And sports opinions and news aren’t exactly the same thing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 16, 2023, 08:49:42 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 16, 2023, 08:51:06 PM
You’re free to ignore all Justin Fields threads. I’m sorry you find someone disagreeing with your football opinions so offensive.

LOL. You make every thread about him
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 16, 2023, 09:37:13 PM
LOL. You make every thread about him

Says the guy who acknowledges that just about everything around the Bears stinks, but still spends each and every day of his life writing post after post about how everything is almost entirely the QBs fault.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 05:39:56 AM
Just heard another doctor on The Score (ZOMG The Score!), and it sounds like there is “likely” a 4-8 week timetable on Fields’ return, surgery or no surgery. Closer to 6-8 with surgery.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 05:48:44 AM
make sure you send him a care package. include a photo of yourself kissing the blow up doll that has his face plastered on it

I’ll meet you at the bike rack after school since you’re still a 7th grader.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 06:00:06 AM
I'll invite you to local bar I go to. You wouldn't last 30 minutes before you got kicked out with how you act

Lolololololololol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 17, 2023, 06:16:52 AM
"A man who is intimated and scared can only laugh as he is in fear"
Good one Jasn.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 06:27:03 AM
Lolololol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 06:29:01 AM
Was that supposed to say “intimidated?” Because then it would actually make sense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 06:31:15 AM
I am really nerve racked at the idea of going into your bar. You’ve got me shaken over here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 06:32:38 AM
What would happen to me? Would Bubba tie me to the bumper of his pickup truck and show me what happens to libruls in a small town?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 06:33:40 AM
More shaken than when Justin fields didn't reply to your tweet at him

Good one! If you’re a 5th grader.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 06:36:29 AM
This place is so fucking weird.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 06:37:21 AM
I guess that’s it’s lone redeeming value.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 17, 2023, 07:48:25 AM
What would happen to me? Would Bubba tie me to the bumper of his pickup truck and show me what happens to libruls in a small town?

This actually is very telling and shows how you view the world around you, and the reasons for your thoughts and opinions. Talk about stereotypes, discrimination, and a warped way of thinking…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 17, 2023, 07:51:45 AM
Looks like it is Jasn's day to use Tempo as a punching bag.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 07:54:26 AM
This actually is very telling and shows how you view the world around you, and the reasons for your thoughts and opinions. Talk about stereotypes, discrimination, and a warped way of thinking…

I only went there because he said “I wouldn’t last 30 minutes in his bar (for the way I act).”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 07:58:29 AM
This actually is very telling and shows how you view the world around you, and the reasons for your thoughts and opinions. Talk about stereotypes, discrimination, and a warped way of thinking…

And of course you overlooked the aggressive nature of his post. No bias in your thinking at all…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 07:59:06 AM
Looks like it is Jasn's day to use Tempo as a punching bag.

You’re just a fucking childish troll.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 17, 2023, 08:03:39 AM
You’re just a fucking childish troll.

If it was a fight, your manager would have thrown in the towel already.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 08:05:43 AM
If it was a fight, your manager would have thrown in the towel already.

You used to be a way better instigator. You’ve gotten fat and lazy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 17, 2023, 08:07:24 AM
You’re just a fucking childish troll.

If saying Justin Fields is similar to Dak Prescott isn't you trolling, then you are a complete idiot who deserves to be used as a rhetorical punching bag.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 17, 2023, 08:07:43 AM
Setting up to be an interesting day on here. Too bad I have shit tons of stupid work meetings today.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 08:31:18 AM
If saying Justin Fields is similar to Dak Prescott isn't you trolling, then you are a complete idiot who deserves to be used as a rhetorical punching bag.

As I just told you, Dak hasn’t done anything Justin couldn’t do with a great offensive line, CeeDee Lamb, Amari Cooper, Zeke, Tony Pollard, and a championship caliber defense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 08:32:01 AM
“Similar?” Not really. Similarish results? Yeah, close enough.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 08:33:06 AM
Setting up to be an interesting day on here. Too bad I have shit tons of stupid work meetings today.

Make sure to keep Jasn updated. I’m sure he’ll be eager to know how they went.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 17, 2023, 08:41:10 AM
As I just told you, Dak hasn’t done anything Justin couldn’t do with a great offensive line, CeeDee Lamb, Amari Cooper, Zeke, Tony Pollard, and a championship caliber defense.

And that’s what you want?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 09:00:24 AM
And that’s what you want?!

“Want?” No. But in year 3 there’s still time to get better. You guys act like every good quarterback is good right away. That’s just not the case. Fields has shown improvement. And he will continue to improve.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 17, 2023, 09:01:18 AM
You put Justin on the Cowboys and I bet he’s better than Dak. With 70 less starts under his belt.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 17, 2023, 11:07:24 AM
Looks like it is Jasn's day to use Tempo as a punching bag.

I'm definitely enjoying his transformation
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 17, 2023, 11:18:35 AM
I'm definitely enjoying his transformation

Jasn’s balls must’ve finally dropped…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 18, 2023, 08:13:41 AM
Help is on the way. Trace McSorely gets signed to the practice squad.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 19, 2023, 12:04:51 PM
You’ve gotten fat and lazy.

Gotten? I have been fat and lazy all my life, sir!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 20, 2023, 06:02:27 AM
Ian Rapoport reporting no surgery for Justin Fields
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 20, 2023, 11:49:16 AM
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/10/19/23924729/chicago-bears-justin-fields-dislocated-thumb-no-surgery-matt-eberflus-ian-rapoport-tyson-bagent
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 20, 2023, 12:15:33 PM
Clever headline.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vTcr8r50/IMG-5255.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rR20Qtn4)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 20, 2023, 12:19:04 PM
I feel like it's time for Whitehair to open a used car lot.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on October 20, 2023, 02:42:51 PM
I feel like it's time for Whitehair to open a used car lot.

Same can be said for the coaches
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on October 20, 2023, 03:03:20 PM
Bring Olin back!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 20, 2023, 03:33:41 PM
Bring Olin back!

Unfortunately they would never do that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 22, 2023, 05:44:40 AM
Ian Rapoport reporting no surgery for Justin Fields

The lack of commentary here about this report, positive or negative, seems to speak volumes.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 22, 2023, 08:11:46 AM
The lack of commentary here about this report, positive or negative, seems to speak volumes.

Too busy missing Jasn and melting down over Illini ineptitude
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 22, 2023, 10:22:25 AM
Too busy missing Jasn and melting down over Illini ineptitude

Meh, that News broke well before the Illini imploded.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 23, 2023, 04:40:38 PM
A lot of topics here. Haven’t actually read it all yet.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/10/23/23928116/10-chicago-bears-takes-season-tyson-bagent-justin-fields-matt-eberflus-raiders-dj-moore-cairo-santos
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 08:56:38 AM
Lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/bwrtzZzH/IMG-5322.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/75v69YJf)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 26, 2023, 09:33:18 AM
That's retarded
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2023, 10:08:34 AM
That's retarded

It is interesting that Tempo trots out the various team records with and without Claypool after previously arguing any discussion of the Fields' record as a starter was preposterous.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 26, 2023, 11:05:01 AM
That's retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO67ga4a63c
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 26, 2023, 11:58:19 AM
It is interesting that Tempo trots out the various team records with and without Claypool after previously arguing any discussion of the Fields' record as a starter was preposterous.

I'm really hoping that Tempo understands that guy is a fucking idiot. I'm really hoping...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 26, 2023, 12:04:11 PM
https://x.com/alabamafbstats/status/1716545021464265014?s=46&t=05HrG8dHonbWgeb4jtVing

While stalking that idiot's feed, I found this gem in the comments of said retarded post Tempo felt like sharing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 26, 2023, 12:14:28 PM
https://x.com/alabamafbstats/status/1716545021464265014?s=46&t=05HrG8dHonbWgeb4jtVing

While stalking that idiot's feed, I found this gem in the comments of said retarded post Tempo felt like sharing.
I saw this part posted somewhere else a day or 2 ago but didn't want to chase the 5-5 claim.
"Since the Bears drafted Fields they are 6-25 with him and 5-5 without him."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on October 26, 2023, 12:18:13 PM
I saw this part posted somewhere else a day or 2 ago but didn't want to chase the 5-5 claim.
"Since the Bears drafted Fields they are 6-25 with him and 5-5 without him."

It's Twitter. Facts don't really matter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on October 26, 2023, 12:41:14 PM
It's Twitter. Facts don't really matter.

Speaking of, take it for what it’s worth…

https://x.com/polesplseat/status/1717586353477574874?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 01:24:23 PM
It is interesting that Tempo trots out the various team records with and without Claypool after previously arguing any discussion of the Fields' record as a starter was preposterous.

JFC you guys are humorless. I put an LOL in front of it. Of course he isn’t “the reason” his teams are losing. It’s a hilarious coincidence though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 01:27:27 PM
Speaking of, take it for what it’s worth…

https://x.com/polesplseat/status/1717586353477574874?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

We get to find out if your new Twitter fave has some legit chops!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2023, 01:45:40 PM
JFC you guys are humorless. I put an LOL in front of it. Of course he isn’t “the reason” his teams are losing. It’s a hilarious coincidence though.

It may not be a coincidence.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 01:54:17 PM
It may not be a coincidence.

He’s almost certainly a “losing player.” Is he so single-handedly dragging down 52 other guys on 3 others teams? Seems a big stretch.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 02:08:15 PM
I saw this part posted somewhere else a day or 2 ago but didn't want to chase the 5-5 claim.
"Since the Bears drafted Fields they are 6-25 with him and 5-5 without him."

Yep, Andy Dalton and Nick Foles beating the 0-10-1 Lions and 4 win Giants and the rookie Justin Fields losing to Tom Brady and the SB champions is VERY telling!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2023, 02:15:48 PM
He’s almost certainly a “losing player.” Is he so single-handedly dragging down 52 other guys on 3 others teams? Seems a big stretch.

Locker room cancer?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2023, 02:17:19 PM
Yep, Andy Dalton and Nick Foles beating the 0-10-1 Lions and 4 win Giants and the rookie Justin Fields losing to Tom Brady and the SB champions is VERY telling!

And the other 20 plus losses....like the ones where he gave the Lions and Broncos points to blow leads.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 02:56:21 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 03:00:40 PM
It was Justin’s fault Santos missed the extra point (in a game they lost by 1) in which Justin immediately made up for his pick 6 with a 67 yard TD run! It was Justin’s fault the defense surrendered a 4 touchdown lead against Denver!

It was Justin’s fault EQ dropped a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down! It was Justin’s fault Smith-Marsette didn’t run out of bounds! And the list goes on and on…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2023, 03:12:15 PM
It was Justin’s fault Santos missed the extra point (in a game they lost by 1) in which Justin immediately made up for his pick 6 with a 67 yard TD run! It was Justin’s fault the defense surrendered a 4 touchdown lead against Denver!

It was Justin’s fault EQ dropped a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down! It was Justin’s fault Smith-Marsette didn’t run out of bounds! And the list goes on and on…

It is not Fields' fault that he is not as quick as Bagent on his drop backs to give himself more time to try and read the defense...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 04:02:49 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2023, 04:21:31 PM
Lol

Someone timed them. Bagent was quicker....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 26, 2023, 04:48:52 PM
Someone timed them. Bagent was quicker....
3.37 to 3.38 ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 05:07:19 PM
Someone timed them. Bagent was quicker....

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2023, 05:29:37 PM
3.37 to 3.38 ?

Apparently 0.5 seconds faster, allegedly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 26, 2023, 05:59:08 PM
Apparently 0.5 seconds faster, allegedly.
What I read was for a certain type of pocket, and the times for the UDFA and the veteran were comparable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2023, 07:42:16 PM
What I read was for a certain type of pocket, and the times for the UDFA and the veteran were comparable.

You must have stalked Tempo's account today, I guess.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 08:11:28 PM
Apparently 0.5 seconds faster, allegedly.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2023, 08:18:07 PM
Lol

Apparently all that is needed to look competent compared to Fields. Who knew?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2023, 08:19:24 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 04, 2023, 10:05:32 AM
OMG we must move on from him immediately!

(https://i.postimg.cc/fLL4jpS2/IMG-5416.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 04, 2023, 10:51:24 AM
Just means Getsy is better than you claim he is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 04, 2023, 12:03:53 PM
Lol yep
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 07:07:55 AM
Zero sacks yesterday for the Bear. At least Mack started out hot when he came over.

Hopefully this isn't Mack Trade Part 2. Bear basically now in a worse postion at the QB position when they made the Mack trade. That Mitch was better than what they have now tells you how bad this is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 08:28:18 AM
JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 08:29:04 AM
There’s no way you’re this insufferable in real life.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 09:08:29 AM
Zero sacks yesterday for the Bear. At least Mack started out hot when he came over.

Hopefully this isn't Mack Trade Part 2. Bear basically now in a worse postion at the QB position when they made the Mack trade. That Mitch was better than what they have now tells you how bad this is.

Blowhard gonna blowhard.

https://x.com/imbearingdown/status/1721417240653008917?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 09:11:22 AM
Blowhard gonna blowhard.

https://x.com/imbearingdown/status/1721417240653008917?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Great that he chased him down 10 yards downfield. How many sacks they get yesterday?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 09:16:59 AM
You’re the most “what have you done for me lately” fan I have encountered. You’re blaming Sweat for others not getting to the quarterback? They had some pressures, and those are just about as valuable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 09:35:47 AM
The Bear pass rush did not look any different yesterday with Sweat.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 09:40:46 AM
The Bear pass rush did not look any different yesterday with Sweat.

One thing you really seem to “understand” is sample size!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 09:53:13 AM
One thing you really seem to “understand” is sample size!

You traded a 2 for a difference maker. It is pass rushing. Either you are a difference maker or not. Or, you rack up numbers when the 2 to 3 guys on the line are difference makers....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 09:54:46 AM
You traded a 2 for a difference maker. It is pass rushing. Either you are a difference maker or not. Or, you rack up numbers when the 2 to 3 guys on the line are difference makers....

And if we don’t see dividends after he’s been with the team 5 days we NEVER will!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 06, 2023, 09:56:37 AM
Josh Dobbs says 5 days is enough
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 09:57:05 AM
And if we don’t see dividends after he’s been with the team 5 days we NEVER will!

It is not off to a good start. He shouldn't have moved into Claypool's place. Bad omen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 09:57:41 AM
Josh Dobbs says 5 days is enough

At a much more skilled position. Tempo is great at excuses.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 10:04:56 AM
Josh Dobbs says 5 days is enough

But 7 teams isn’t.

The NFL is fluky like that.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 10:05:30 AM
At a much more skilled position. Tempo is great at excuses.

And you’re great at having zero understanding of the concept of sample size.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 10:06:11 AM
Josh Dobbs says 5 days is enough

Wanna place a bet on whether or not Minnesota keeps winning with Dobbs?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 06, 2023, 10:06:43 AM
How many extra hours did Sweat put in on Friday's walk thru ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 10:08:14 AM
How many extra hours did Sweat put in on Friday's walk thru ?

Wouldn’t have the the slightest clue. What’s your “point?”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 10:08:52 AM
Would that have guaranteed him a couple sacks?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 10:11:25 AM
You should call up Halas Hall and investigate Sweat’s logged time at the facility on Friday, Mn.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 10:19:00 AM
But 7 teams isn’t.

The NFL is fluky like that.

What isn't fluky is over 2 years of crap 4th quarters.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 06, 2023, 11:15:48 AM
Dobbs put in an extra 5 hours and made it a point of thanking the staff for putting in those extra 5 with him.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 06, 2023, 11:19:25 AM
What isn't fluky is over 2 years of crap 4th quarters.

Not a big enough sample size dood
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 06, 2023, 12:04:42 PM
Not a big enough sample size dood

Apparently the sample size for Bagent is large enough.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 12:29:30 PM
Apparently the sample size for Bagent is large enough.

Amazing how that works, doesn't it?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 06, 2023, 01:28:53 PM
I don’t live in the area anymore so I don’t know how apparent it is, but it’s amazing that ol’ outta touch Rick is so tuned into the JFC worshipping subset of Bears fans to which Tempo belongs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 01:39:40 PM
Dobbs put in an extra 5 hours and made it a point of thanking the staff for putting in those extra 5 with him.

You sure it was not 3 to 5 extra hours he put in?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 01:41:20 PM
You should call up Halas Hall and investigate Sweat’s logged time at the facility on Friday, Mn.

Can you investigate where he was Sunday while you are at it, Mn? He was supposed to be getting sacks. All I have seen is that he chased Hill 10 yards downfield.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 06, 2023, 02:08:09 PM
Can you investigate where he was Sunday while you are at it, Mn? He was supposed to be getting sacks. All I have seen is that he chased Hill 10 yards downfield.
He may have been still trying to figure out where to lay his head at night, but he was paid very well for each of those yards of chasing.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 02:47:41 PM
Apparently the sample size for Bagent is large enough.

One guy came at the cost of two 1st round draft choices. The other came at not cost at all. Literally every team in the league passed on him 7x. But yeah; there’s that “one in a million” chance that Bagent can become a good starter in the NFL…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 02:49:42 PM
What isn't fluky is over 2 years of crap 4th quarters.

Last year they literally ripped the roster apart. Winning literally wasn’t the main goal. So you’re still talking about a small sample size. You will never understand what “rebuild” means. And no, the rebuild isn’t complete. And yes, so far there definitely holes you could poke in it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 02:50:17 PM
Dobbs put in an extra 5 hours and made it a point of thanking the staff for putting in those extra 5 with him.

Hey, that’s awesome…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 02:51:11 PM
Not a big enough sample size dood

Another guy who doesn’t understand what a roster tear down is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 02:52:22 PM
Can you investigate where he was Sunday while you are at it, Mn? He was supposed to be getting sacks. All I have seen is that he chased Hill 10 yards downfield.

You are an INCREDIBLY myopic person. Insanely so.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 02:56:21 PM
One guy came at the cost of two 1st round draft choices. The other came at not cost at all. Literally every team in the league passed on him 7x. But yeah; there’s that “one in a million” chance that Bagent can become a good starter in the NFL…

And one has started over 30 games and still has a 4th qtr rating of 60 and ZERO comeback wins. Though he has pick 6'd and fumbled away a couple of games on his own.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 06, 2023, 02:56:37 PM
Why do people want the Div 2 UDFA to fail when he's just trying to do what's being asked of him ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 02:57:25 PM
Why do people want the Div 2 UDFA to fail when he's just trying to do what's being asked of him ?

Rhetorical question that was nonetheless answered by the usually oblivious Rick Morrissey.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 03:30:39 PM
Rhetorical question that was nonetheless answered by the usually oblivious Rick Morrissey.

Yet you keep posting him! And reading him! You’re like a Fox News watcher that has already determined “the truth”  and what the news will tell them before you’ve watched it.

You literally once argued that JT O’Sullivan basically said it was “a shit throw” after he said “There’s a lot to like here except for 11 who turns around and quits running.” But you came away with the impression he said “bad throw.” LMAO

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 03:41:13 PM
Yet you keep posting him! And reading him! You’re like a Fox News watcher that has already determined “the truth”  and what the news will tell them before you’ve watched it.

You literally once argued that JT O’Sullivan basically said it was “a shit throw” after he said “There’s a lot to like here except for 11 who turns around and quits running.” But you came away with the impression he said “bad throw.” LMAO

"Usually oblivious Rick Morrissey" is not the same as "always oblivious when it comes to Fields Tempo34."
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 03:56:25 PM
"Usually oblivious Rick Morrissey" is not the same as "always oblivious when it comes to Fields Tempo34."

You were just looking for someone to confirm your already held belief. It’s what low thinkers do.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 04:33:21 PM
You were just looking for someone to confirm your already held belief. It’s what low thinkers do.

Ergo, all of your links to The Twitter, Parkins and Spiegel, Dan Bernstein...you are not fooling anyone.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 06, 2023, 04:43:19 PM
You were just looking for someone to confirm your already held belief. It’s what low thinkers do.

I don’t think this is a case of confirmation bias in the way you think it is. The fact Morrissey has picked up on this phenomenon enough that he’s writing about it isn’t some one-off situation. 

There is a whole legion of FFFs out there that are exhibiting the same strange tendencies. Don’t be mad that someone is calling it (and you) out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 04:49:40 PM
Ergo, all of your links to The Twitter, Parkins and Spiegel, Dan Bernstein...you are not fooling anyone.

LMAO
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 04:50:25 PM
JFC you guys are weird.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 06, 2023, 04:52:46 PM
JFC you guys are weird.

No your view is the weird one…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 05:23:44 PM
No your view is the weird one…

Yeah, that was a weird take by Tempo. Seems to be a FFF phenomenon.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 06, 2023, 06:33:55 PM
Yeah, that was a weird take by Tempo. Seems to be a FFF phenomenon.

Tyson Bagent will lead the Bears to a Super Bowl. Yes? Or Yes?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2023, 08:23:43 PM
Tyson Bagent will lead the Bears to a Super Bowl. Yes? Or Yes?

Definitely one of my better topics. Not as good as last year's NU topic, but getting a lot of mileage out of it  from you.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2023, 09:50:13 AM
Wow…

https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1724538883436695646?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 15, 2023, 10:03:47 AM
Wow…

https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1724538883436695646?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Yeah trading Roquan was the right decision.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2023, 12:49:26 PM
Yeah trading Roquan was the right decision.

They got Edwards, Edmunds (who’s been a bit disappointing but not as bad as everyone says), and Gervon Dexter for about what it would have costed to keep Roquan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 15, 2023, 01:04:00 PM
They got Edwards, Edmunds (who’s been a bit disappointing but not as bad as everyone says), and Gervon Dexter for about what it would have costed to keep Roquan.

Costed. Come on, man.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 03:27:07 PM
Lincoln Riley, a guy im pretty sure a couple of people here were saying we should break the bank for 6-8 weeks ago has lost 5 of his last 6 games. And 7-7 (I think) over his last 14.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2023, 03:28:17 PM
Lincoln Riley, a guy im pretty sure a couple of people here were saying we should break the bank for 6-8 weeks ago has lost 5 of his last 6 games. And 7-7 (I think) over his last 14.

Who was saying that? I honestly don't remember, and I'm not even trying to look it up. But if you're gonna make that claim, it would be great if you could back it up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 03:29:28 PM
I wanna say Judge Judy and maybe the PAMan, but I’m not sure tbh. I know I saw it. Not hunting through a bunch of threads to find it though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 03:30:28 PM
I for sure saw someone say it. I believe a couple of people were on board.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2023, 03:38:35 PM
I for sure saw someone say it. I believe a couple of people were on board.

Well, if you're too lazy to go back and find it, after you're making the claim, then to me it didn't happen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 03:40:49 PM
Well, if you're too lazy to go back and find it, after you're making the claim, then to me it didn't happen.

Oh boy, you really put me in my place . So rough! I like it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2023, 03:43:44 PM
Oh boy, you really put me in my place . So rough! I like it.

Not trying to do that. I really just want to know who said that. If you're claiming it's on here, find it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2023, 03:46:48 PM
I'm pretty sure Tempo said he likes to get drunk and beat his kid. I'm not searching a whole bunch of threads to find it tho. But I'm pretty sure he said it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 03:56:59 PM
Not trying to do that. I really just want to know who said that. If you're claiming it's on here, find it.

I’ve looked some. The search feature sucks balls. I find this in search but don’t even see the post when I search the thread. Someone here was all over Riley’s nuts saying “do what it takes” or whatever, but I don’t recall for sure who it was.

(https://i.postimg.cc/B6KWHP77/IMG-5600.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 03:57:35 PM
I’m not spending all afternoon re-reading threads.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2023, 04:03:36 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2023, 04:49:24 PM
I’ve looked some. The search feature sucks balls. I find this in search but don’t even see the post when I search the thread. Someone here was all over Riley’s nuts saying “do what it takes” or whatever, but I don’t recall for sure who it was.

(https://i.postimg.cc/B6KWHP77/IMG-5600.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Well, it looks like Tempo was referring to, and quoting, himself here....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 05:54:11 PM
It’s says “By: ThePAMan.” I’m not even sure. The search function sucks
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2023, 06:04:35 PM
It’s says “By: ThePAMan.” I’m not even sure. The search function sucks

Uh, it is my post quoting you....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 20, 2023, 08:42:25 PM
The Fields lust is messing with Tempo's ability to message board
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 08:48:25 PM
Who wants to fess up to their Lincoln Riley lust? Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2023, 08:49:38 PM
Who wants to fess up to their Lincoln Riley lust? Lol

I bumped all the quotes on the subject. They were all yours.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2023, 08:50:44 PM
The Fields lust is messing with Tempo's ability to message board

Fields is like Trump. Leaves broken supporters in his wake.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 09:14:11 PM
I bumped all the quotes on the subject. They were all yours.

Good job! There are lots of threads the comments could be in. I’m not combing them all.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 09:16:16 PM
I used the site’s shirty search function  and that thread showed potential
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2023, 09:17:02 PM
Good job! There are lots of threads the comments could be in. I’m not combing them all.

There were maybe 5 posts....all easily found using Custard's Quality Search function
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 09:17:53 PM
Ryan Poles has to be watching quarterback play around the league this year and realizing he’s got one of the better ones…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2023, 09:18:48 PM
Ryan Poles has to be watching quarterback play around the league this year and realizing he’s got one of the better ones…

Hilarious. Then again, he does suck as a GM
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2023, 07:37:02 AM
Great trade and signing by Poles! Tempo WRONG again ..

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/bears-snap-count-montez-sweats-play-time-shows-troubling-issue-in-lions-debacle/520047/

But that wasn't the case Sunday in the Bears' 31-26 meltdown loss to the Detroit Lions at Ford Field. Sweat played just 39 snaps in the loss in Detroit. That's good for 63 percent of the Bears' total defensive snaps. Yannick Ngakoue paced all Bears edge rushers with 45 snaps, and DeMarcus Walker nearly equaled Sweat with 38.

Sweat was also off the field on several critical third-down and red-zone plays. After the game, the defensive end told reporters that he subbed himself out on a third and goal play that the Lions scored on.

For comparison, Lions star edge rusher Aidan Hutchinson played 69 snaps Sunday, good for 92 percent of the Lions' defensive snaps.

That's what is required out of a star pass rusher. They should rarely come off the field.

***

After reviewing the film, Sweat was on the field for just 50 percent of the snaps in which the Lions either had a third down or were inside the red zone (9/18). The Bears' star edge rusher was on the field for the majority of the Lions' final two offensive drives that decided the game (12/17).

That 9/18 number on critical downs is a problem. There are some defensible reasons for that, depending on the length of the drive and the tempo of the offense, but the Bears need Sweat to be on the field more, especially on the money downs.

That's why he's here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 21, 2023, 07:48:19 AM
The Bears had a bye week to prep for 17 minutes of on the field defense.
3-5 more days and they may have gotten to a defensive game plan to get to the full 20 minutes that they needed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 21, 2023, 08:13:37 AM
Great trade and signing by Poles! Tempo WRONG again ..

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/bears-snap-count-montez-sweats-play-time-shows-troubling-issue-in-lions-debacle/520047/

But that wasn't the case Sunday in the Bears' 31-26 meltdown loss to the Detroit Lions at Ford Field. Sweat played just 39 snaps in the loss in Detroit. That's good for 63 percent of the Bears' total defensive snaps. Yannick Ngakoue paced all Bears edge rushers with 45 snaps, and DeMarcus Walker nearly equaled Sweat with 38.

Sweat was also off the field on several critical third-down and red-zone plays. After the game, the defensive end told reporters that he subbed himself out on a third and goal play that the Lions scored on.

For comparison, Lions star edge rusher Aidan Hutchinson played 69 snaps Sunday, good for 92 percent of the Lions' defensive snaps.

That's what is required out of a star pass rusher. They should rarely come off the field.

***

After reviewing the film, Sweat was on the field for just 50 percent of the snaps in which the Lions either had a third down or were inside the red zone (9/18). The Bears' star edge rusher was on the field for the majority of the Lions' final two offensive drives that decided the game (12/17).

That 9/18 number on critical downs is a problem. There are some defensible reasons for that, depending on the length of the drive and the tempo of the offense, but the Bears need Sweat to be on the field more, especially on the money downs.

That's why he's here.

It’s because they are trying to tank. Poles doesn’t want to win now. He wants a higher draft pick. That’s why the best players aren’t playing as much and you’re seeing run plays when you should pass and kicking FG’s when you should go for it. It’s not that hard to figure out but they can’t be too blatant about it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 21, 2023, 08:30:10 AM
It’s because they are trying to tank. Poles doesn’t want to win now. He wants a higher draft pick. That’s why the best players aren’t playing as much and you’re seeing run plays when you should pass and kicking FG’s when you should go for it. It’s not that hard to figure out but they can’t be too blatant about it.
3-5 years to lay a foundation sounds like a great plan.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 11:05:25 AM
3-5 years to lay a foundation sounds like a great plan.

Probably a tad more realistic than overnight.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 21, 2023, 11:19:40 AM
3-5 years to lay a foundation sounds like a great plan.

I think Poles always knew when he took the job that he wanted a 2-3 year rebuild. I would even suggest he wanted to be bad the first two years he was GM just for this very reason to clean house and get two-years worth of high draft picks. It’s actually a genius way to build a franchise back up IF you know what you’re doing. After those 2-3 years, you’re in a great financial situation and have tons of resources at your disposal. There’s no way we were looking at winning last year or this year. Next year and on will be very telling. Again, this was the plan all along…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 11:57:33 AM
I’ve seen JudgeJudy post crazier thoughts.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 21, 2023, 12:30:14 PM
I’ve seen JudgeJudy post crazier thoughts.

It’s EXACTLY what you are preaching as well dumbass…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 12:33:03 PM
It’s EXACTLY what you are preaching as well dumbass…

Pretty sure I’ve never taken the route that they are deliberately losing this season
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 21, 2023, 12:34:26 PM
Pretty sure I’ve never taken the route that they are deliberately losing this season

Patience…

LOL


Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 12:36:10 PM
Patience…

LOL



That is in no way the same thing as saying they are losing on purpose
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 12:37:51 PM
I do not think they are losing on purpose this season I think they are legitimately struggling
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 21, 2023, 12:40:05 PM
Eberflus/Poles/Bears are not trying to win games, that's the first thing we need to understand. Hence why Edmunds or Sweat weren’t out there much. They know what they’re doing. It’s OBVIOUS!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 21, 2023, 12:41:45 PM
It’s why Eberflus has a hard time in press conferences answering questions about that stuff because he can’t just come out and say they are tanking, so it sounds dumb. Come on, y’all aren’t this fucking dumb and neither are they…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 12:43:13 PM
Poles may have put Eberflus in the position of sacrificial lamb all along, but I don’t think they are trying to lose. And I definitely don’t think they are in on it together.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2023, 12:49:11 PM
Next thing you know we will hear is that Trump won the election....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 21, 2023, 12:51:25 PM
Next thing you know we will hear is that Trump won the election....

If you think 80 million + voted for Biden, ILLove97’s got some ocean-front property to sell you in Vegas…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2023, 12:55:44 PM
If you think 80 million + voted for Biden, ILLove97’s got some ocean-front property to sell you in Vegas…

My next follow up post was to be  "...Or that Patrick Mahomes is not an elite quarterback. "
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 12:58:16 PM
Next thing you know we will hear is that Trump won the election....

I’m pretty sure that judge Judy would argue that he did
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 01:00:15 PM
If you think 80 million + voted for Biden, ILLove97’s got some ocean-front property to sell you in Vegas…

And there you go… I promise I had not read that far yet
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 01:01:19 PM
My next follow up post was to be  "...Or that Patrick Mahomes is not an elite quarterback. "

Tallest midget, he gave away the one seed to the ravens last night…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 21, 2023, 01:01:56 PM
My next follow up post was to be  "...Or that Patrick Mahomes is not an elite quarterback. "

He’s no Justin Fields, but…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 21, 2023, 01:02:54 PM
Tallest midget, he gave away the one seed to the ravens last night…

And there you go… I promise I had not read that far yet

LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on November 21, 2023, 01:05:53 PM
I'm just amazed that there's a fan club for such a marginal qb
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 01:13:11 PM
And there you go… I promise I had not read that far yet

LOL

What’s obvious to most is not obvious to all…if you need help, ask ThePAMan. I’ll bet he gets it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 21, 2023, 01:16:23 PM
Mahomes threw an end zone pick and gave the one seed to the Ravens. And I can’t believe he let Scantling drop that bomb. Scantling must not have been expecting an accurate ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 21, 2023, 02:21:50 PM
Look no further than who the Chiefs OC is.

It took a while but the Nagy poison is spreading and even the Chiefs elite talent isn’t immune.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 21, 2023, 02:41:18 PM
That is some impressively bad juju
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 21, 2023, 06:31:04 PM
Mahomes threw an end zone pick and gave the one seed to the Ravens. And I can’t believe he let Scantling drop that bomb. Scantling must not have been expecting an accurate ball.

Bagent would have won that game for The Chiefs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 22, 2023, 10:28:09 AM
Of all people, Hub Arkush talked me into a more measured response over what’s going on with the Bears. Can’t remember the last time I thought Hub had an intelligent thing to say but he sold me.

Says the players lost the game (of course, but I think the coaches helped put them into position to lose the game). Says he won’t have an opinion on Flus and Getsy until the year is over. And says the Bears have “improved every week for 6-7 weeks, but aren’t where they need to be yet,” and I actually agree with that. I see the improvement, but I also see a team taking its lumps while “learning.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 22, 2023, 10:36:18 AM
Some really odd Montez Sweat stuff since Sunday, too. Only played 63% of the snaps. The Bears do rotate heavily, but that’s not enough. He should be above 75% at least. Flus said “that’s just how we do things (ok, well don’t do them that way), but PAMan also produced something that says Sweat took himself out of the game at one point?

It’s been hard to get clarity. PAMan mentioned he was maybe out of shape, but I don’t buy that. He’s been playing 45-50 snaps a game all season. I think it’s more likely he is playing hurt, or Flus is just a moron.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 22, 2023, 12:55:20 PM
Some really odd Montez Sweat stuff since Sunday, too. Only played 63% of the snaps. The Bears do rotate heavily, but that’s not enough. He should be above 75% at least. Flus said “that’s just how we do things (ok, well don’t do them that way), but PAMan also produced something that says Sweat took himself out of the game at one point?

It’s been hard to get clarity. PAMan mentioned he was maybe out of shape, but I don’t buy that. He’s been playing 45-50 snaps a game all season. I think it’s more likely he is playing hurt, or Flus is just a moron.

Or they know there’s no point this season…

It’s crazy that everybody is quick to throw that idea out the window. NFL teams do this all the time. It’s nothing new. That’s what incentivizing losing creates.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 22, 2023, 01:03:25 PM
Mostly reasonable stuff here.

https://youtu.be/nZg2Q9RP7lQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 22, 2023, 01:04:16 PM
Or they know there’s no point this season…

It’s crazy that everybody is quick to throw that idea out the window. NFL teams do this all the time. It’s nothing new. That’s what incentivizing losing creates.

I don’t think anyone was intentionally trying to lose Sunday. Especially the coaches.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 22, 2023, 01:10:21 PM
The Bears don't have to try to lose.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 22, 2023, 01:52:22 PM
The Bears don't have to try to lose.

One of the more accurate things you’ve said in quite some time.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2023, 09:49:47 AM
Albert Breer reports that Kevin Warren may clean house and bring in his own people (and get more involved on the football side). I’m not sure I need or want that in my life. I guess it depends on who he brings in and what this looks like I’m not sure Warren is qualified to play GM. Flus probably needs to go. Even though the wins aren’t coming yet, I do believe Poles is building this the right way. He’s building for a 10 year plan (like the Chiefs). He’s not selling out to win right away. This year has been disappointing, but I think they are on the correct path. Need a better HC.


https://x.com/chicago_nfl/status/1727454511499772068?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 25, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
Da Bears.
Pick a HC, then a new GM and tell him who the new HC is, then hire an OC who should be gone already and  DC who is gone already, and finish the re-organization with the last guy hired saying he might get rid of the 3 remaining guys hired just before him because he can.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on November 25, 2023, 11:10:16 AM
Da Bears.
Pick a HC, then a new GM and tell him who the new HC is, then hire an OC who should be gone already and  DC who is gone already, and finish the re-organization with the last guy hired saying he might get rid of the 3 remaining guys hired just before him because he can.

POTY potential here
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2023, 01:29:59 PM
Da Bears.
Pick a HC, then a new GM and tell him who the new HC is, then hire an OC who should be gone already and  DC who is gone already, and finish the re-organization with the last guy hired saying he might get rid of the 3 remaining guys hired just before him because he can.

By far your best post ever.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2023, 01:30:52 PM
POTY potential here

I’d say it’s a slam dunk. Really really clever. Shockingly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2023, 05:10:48 PM
I’d spend it on DJ Moore.

AOTC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2023, 05:12:36 PM
They got bent over if that’s the case. I like Claypool’s talent, but he’s a knucklehead. I really hope it wasn’t a 2nd rounder.

AOTC on Claypool being a knucklehead.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 25, 2023, 05:16:47 PM
You did like his talent..even if I stand corrected on the 2d
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 25, 2023, 05:23:38 PM
You did like his talent..even if I stand corrected on the 2d

Everyone likes his talent. He’s 6’4 238 and ran a 4.42 coming out of college. Dude was a freak athletically. 
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 26, 2023, 12:13:19 PM
Id like to know if Ryan Poles ever even inquired about Mike Evans in the off season. I was shocked they didn’t unload his salary for some solid draft capital.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 26, 2023, 01:14:08 PM
Id like to know if Ryan Poles ever even inquired about Mike Evans in the off season. I was shocked they didn’t unload his salary for some solid draft capital.

I sent a link about this awhile back. He wasn’t available and yes we reached out…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 26, 2023, 01:52:27 PM
I sent a link about this awhile back. He wasn’t available and yes we reached out…

He doesn't read anyone else's links. You'll never EVER get it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 26, 2023, 02:50:52 PM
I sent a link about this awhile back. He wasn’t available and yes we reached out…

Sweet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 26, 2023, 02:51:45 PM
He doesn't read anyone else's links. You'll never EVER get it.

Cranky. Hungover?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 26, 2023, 04:04:21 PM
Cranky. Hungover?

Nope
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 27, 2023, 07:53:21 AM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38983435/bears-face-justin-fields-decision-land-no-1-draft-pick
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 27, 2023, 08:50:46 AM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38983435/bears-face-justin-fields-decision-land-no-1-draft-pick
Da Bears.
Kevin Warren wasn't around when Fields was drafted.
Ryan Poles. Ditto.
Matt Eberflus. Ditto.
Luke Getsy. Ditto.

If da Bears wait until the draft to make decisions on draft choices.....
If Getsy is gone, da Bears will pick an OC before they decide on a QB.
If Eberflus is also gone, da Bears will decide on a HC and a DC before they decide on a QB.
If Poles is gone, da Bears will decide on a GM, a HC and an OC before they decide on a QB.
da Bears will be deciding on the 2024 QB before their 1st coaching interview.

A bunch of unknowns will put their heads together to decide if the money in Fields' next contract, not the extension, is better spent on something other than Fields.
How Fields finishes this year will go a long way in determining what da Bears are able to tell any potential coaches who will undoubtedly be asking who the 2024 QB will be.

Where is Ghost of Royko to offer some contract insight ?
If Poles is still around and misses on Stroud and Williams or Maye his goose may be cooked. And I assume that thought has entered his mind.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 09:21:45 AM
“Missing on Stroud (or Williams or Maye)” isn’t what will bring Poles down. It’s wins and losses. Period. If he sticks with Fields and he’s not quite as good as a couple of the others, it won’t matter if Fields is “good enough” and the Bears are contenders.

I went down the list. Right now, Fields is objectively a top 18-20 QB which puts him close to average, and that’s if you grade harshly and give every other quarterback in his range the “edge.” And he hasn’t reached his ceiling yet. Field’s floor will be a top 12-15 quarterback. That’s his absolutel floor if he stays healthy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 27, 2023, 09:43:19 AM
“Missing on Stroud (or Williams or Maye)” isn’t what will bring Poles down. It’s wins and losses. Period. If he sticks with Fields and he’s not quite as good as a couple of the others, it won’t matter if Fields is “good enough” and the Bears are contenders.

I went down the list. Right now, Fields is objectively a top 18-20 QB which puts him close to average, .....
Other than that I said "may be cooked", which should obviously depend on wins vs losses, you're now in the Fields is "close to average" as a QB ?
Carry on.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 11:05:29 AM
“Missing on Stroud (or Williams or Maye)” isn’t what will bring Poles down. It’s wins and losses. Period.

I thought wins and losses did not count yet?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 01:57:39 PM
Other than that I said "may be cooked", which should obviously depend on wins vs losses, you're now in the Fields is "close to average" as a QB ?
Carry on.

“Close to average” by the harshest measurement, and very likely to still get better. There’s no one on the list I can think of in that range that is likely to get better. Meaning, he can be at a minimum likely above average. That’s good enough to win games if you’ve got a good roster. And again, I think this is the bleakest outcome.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 01:58:41 PM
I thought wins and losses did not count yet?

I’m not sure anyone has said that. They’ll for sure start counting next year if Poles is still here, which I’m expecting him to be.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 01:59:43 PM
My point was I don’t think anyone besides meatballs EXPECTED the rebuild to be complete 11 games in.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 02:01:29 PM
My point was I don’t think anyone besides meatballs EXPECTED the rebuild to be complete 11 games in.

Complete? How about looking like the tank is over? Because it still looks like it is on, especially when your guy is QB1
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 02:04:49 PM
Complete? How about looking like the tank is over? Because it still looks like it is on, especially when your guy is QB1

lol meatball shit
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 02:21:59 PM
lol meatball shit

QB1 turned the Bronco season around. When is he going to turn the Bear season around?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 02:32:37 PM
The narrative machine never rests. NEVER!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 03:01:45 PM
The Bears’ expected win total was only 7.5 going into the season. Granted, I was very hopeful they would smash that, but I also wasn’t “expecting” it. I’m guessing you wouldn’t be happy if they were on a 7-8 win pace, either.

Early season injuries derailed what chance they had at a good season. And turns out the coaching probably isn’t up to par. As your guy Hub pointed out, they have “gotten better” the last 6-7 weeks, they just aren’t “there yet.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 04:08:14 PM
The Cult's Excuse Machine NEVER rests.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 04:09:08 PM
The Bears’ expected win total was only 7.5 going into the season. Granted, I was very hopeful they would smash that, but I also wasn’t “expecting” it. I’m guessing you wouldn’t be happy if they were on a 7-8 win pace, either.

Early season injuries derailed what chance they had at a good season. And turns out the coaching probably isn’t up to par. As your guy Hub pointed out, they have “gotten better” the last 6-7 weeks, they just aren’t “there yet.”

Bagent was 2-2 as a starter. What is their record with Fields under center?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 05:17:24 PM
Bagent was 2-2 as a starter. What is their record with Fields under center?

Meatballism at its “finest.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 07:10:49 PM
Meatballism at its “finest.”

Troy Aikman just reminded everyone that you play to win the game
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 07:30:05 PM
Troy Aikman just reminded everyone that you play to win the game

Poles is trying to build something that wins for 10 years. Not selling out to win this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 07:39:30 PM
Poles is trying to build something that wins for 10 years. Not selling out to win this year.

Apparently Troy Aikman has inside info
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 07:40:20 PM
Apparently Troy Aikman has inside info

Enlighten me. Not sure what your point is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 07:43:44 PM
Enlighten me. Not sure what your point is.

Record counts....not whatever it is you have spewed
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 07:58:11 PM
Record counts....not whatever it is you have spewed

As my old HS football coach once told me, “Rome wasn’t built in a day.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 27, 2023, 08:00:38 PM
Troy Aikman just reminded everyone that you play to win the game
Not quite everyone.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 08:01:36 PM
Not quite everyone.

LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 08:05:26 PM
Meatballs will never understand what building a franchise looks like. They literally can’t see past the next game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on November 27, 2023, 08:09:31 PM
So, next year is the year?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 08:10:58 PM
So, next year is the year?

January 16, 2032 may be when records count
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 08:11:20 PM
So, next year is the year?

Maybe.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 08:44:46 PM
Maybe.

Or maybe not after Warren cleans house.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 27, 2023, 08:45:33 PM
Meatballs will never understand what building a franchise looks like. They literally can’t see past the next game.
Building a franchise.
Lol. That's rich. The franchise has been around for over 100 years and Poles has the franchise records for consecutive losses.
Building a franchise. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 27, 2023, 08:54:34 PM
So, next year is the year?

Next year is the year.

Until it isn't.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 09:30:47 PM
Building a franchise.
Lol. That's rich. The franchise has been around for over 100 years and Poles has the franchise records for consecutive losses.
Building a franchise. Lol

Nearsighted much?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 27, 2023, 09:32:26 PM
Nearsighted much?
He can add tied the franchise record for consecutive division losses to his resume.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 09:39:06 PM
He can add tied the franchise record for consecutive division losses to his resume.

You is good at analysis of football. You is smart.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 09:41:27 PM
You is good at analysis of football. You is smart.

Even Bielema won one game against the B1G West....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 10:14:47 PM
Congrats to Coach Eberlose on his first NFC North victory!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 10:16:06 PM
Congrats to Coach Eberlose on his first NFC North victory!

They’ve taken the North and they are never giving it back.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ridingthegrange on November 27, 2023, 10:33:01 PM
Congrats to Coach Eberlose on his first NFC North victory!

How many games does he get?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 10:40:46 PM
How many games does he get?

None of the games this year or last year count.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 27, 2023, 10:41:18 PM
Congrats to Coach Eberlose on his first NFC North victory!

A statue is being built for him as we speak
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 27, 2023, 10:45:22 PM
We don’t know any more about Fields after this game than we did going into it. He literally is wasting what little time he has left it appears and pissing his opportunities away. If there’s any doubt about Fields, the Bears are picking a QB. You almost have to if you aren’t sure after this season.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 10:48:31 PM
Congrats to Justin Fields for now having as many wins this season as Bagent!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 10:49:29 PM
We don’t know any more about Fields after this game than we did going into it. He literally is wasting what little time he has left it appears and pissing his opportunities away. If there’s any doubt about Fields, the Bears are picking a QB. You almost have to if you aren’t sure after this season.

The game plan and playcalling spoke volumes about what they think of Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 27, 2023, 10:53:28 PM
How many games does he get?

For what?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 03:47:13 AM
Building a franchise.
Lol. That's rich. The franchise has been around for over 100 years and Poles has the franchise records for consecutive losses.
Building a franchise. Lol

Mn, the guy who’d gladly give back DJ Moore and likely the first pick in next years’ draft (along with other draft picks) for a win against Detroit in a 3-14 season! You should be a GM.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 28, 2023, 06:40:41 AM
Mn, the guy who’d gladly give back DJ Moore and likely the first pick in next years’ draft (along with other draft picks) for a win against Detroit in a 3-14 season! You should be a GM.
You'll never ever get it.
And point out where I said I would gladly return what the Carolina owner pissed away.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 07:59:35 AM
You'll never ever get it.
And point out where I said I would gladly return what the Carolina owner pissed away.

I asked you a long time ago if you’d rather have a win against Detroit than the 1st pick. You said definitively “yes.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 28, 2023, 08:10:50 AM
I asked you a long time ago if you’d rather have a win against Detroit than the 1st pick. You said definitively “yes.”
Because as someone one said, you play the fucking game to win. You fucking moron.
If Carolina wants to give the Bears 10 years of all their draft picks, that's on them. You fucking moron.
Hey, Carolina will give us a shitload. Let's lose.

Or did you step out on the basketball floor, the baseball diamond or a football field and say to yourself you're out there to lose ?
Damn you're dense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 08:41:20 AM
Because as someone one said, you play the fucking game to win. You fucking moron.
If Carolina wants to give the Bears 10 years of all their draft picks, that's on them. You fucking moron.
Hey, Carolina will give us a shitload. Let's lose.

Or did you step out on the basketball floor, the baseball diamond or a football field and say to yourself you're out there to lose ?
Damn you're dense.

Hahahahaha hilarious. At least you admitted you said it. As I said, you should be a GM…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 08:41:57 AM
Because as someone one said, you play the fucking game to win. You fucking moron.
If Carolina wants to give the Bears 10 years of all their draft picks, that's on them. You fucking moron.
Hey, Carolina will give us a shitload. Let's lose.

Or did you step out on the basketball floor, the baseball diamond or a football field and say to yourself you're out there to lose ?
Damn you're dense.

The guy who wrote this post called me dense. Can’t make this stuff up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 08:43:18 AM
There’s so much wrong with that post I don’t even want to take the time to dissect it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 08:47:51 AM
I wish all Bears talk was banned...or Tempo34

Makes this site insufferable

You’re very very free not to open Bears threads. Just a thought.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 28, 2023, 08:51:54 AM
The guy who wrote this post called me dense. Can’t make this stuff up.
How often did you play to lose ? Did you tell your teammates about it, or just keep it to yourself ?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 08:55:35 AM
We have 8 Bears related threads on the 1st page of the football section started by you. It's pathetic

And you are free to not open them. But yet here we are.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 08:56:09 AM
How often did you play to lose ? Did you tell your teammates about it, or just keep it to yourself ?

Such a flawed argument it’s barely even worth rebutting.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 09:01:43 AM
First off, the PLAYERS aren’t playing to lose, you numbnut. Secondly, my losing at any sport growing up didn’t secure me a better draft pick. Thirdly, I also didn’t operate under a draft and salary cap restrictions. Fourthly, the coaches and GM didn’t so much “set out to lose (last year),” so much as not PRIORITIZE winning. There is a difference, but you’d have to have a measurable IQ to understand that.

Fifthly, Ryan Poles is operating under the restrictions of a PROFESSIONAL league. If you’re in a spot where your franchise is in a deep rut “tanking” can work as a LONG TERM strategy. It worked for the Chicago Cubs. Poles is not selling out to “win the next game.” He’s trying to build something that will be sustainable for a decade. But simpletons like you are unable to see past last week and the most recent game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 28, 2023, 09:14:43 AM
First off, the PLAYERS aren’t playing to lose, you numbnut. Secondly, my losing at any sport growing up didn’t secure me a better draft pick. Thirdly, I also didn’t operate under a draft and salary cap restrictions. Fourthly, the coaches and GM didn’t so much “set out to lose (last year),” so much as not PRIORITIZE winning. There is a difference, but you’d have to have a measurable IQ to understand that.

Fifthly, Ryan Poles is operating under the restrictions of a PROFESSIONAL league. If you’re in a spot where your franchise is in a deep rut “tanking” can work as a LONG TERM strategy. It worked for the Chicago Cubs. Poles is not selling out to “win the next game.” He’s trying to build something that will be sustainable for a decade. But simpletons like you are unable to see past last week and the most recent game.
Firstly, you're a moron.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 09:16:06 AM
Firstly, you're a moron.

Excellently done! Terrific rebuttal!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2023, 09:17:33 AM
There’s so much wrong with that post I don’t even want to take the time to dissect it.

And then he takes the time to attempt to dissect.  Shocking
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2023, 09:19:59 AM
Would rather have Stroud. Too bad Poles messed it up
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 09:21:24 AM
And then he takes the time to attempt to dissect.  Shocking

I knew I’d be called to task, so I did it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on November 28, 2023, 12:21:33 PM
If the bears keep winning they will be forced to draft a good QB like Bo Nix
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 28, 2023, 03:29:24 PM
So, dipshit Danny Parkins goes from head Fields dicksucker (behind Tempo) to this.

https://x.com/670thescore/status/1729603914180218975?s=46

Sports radio is so fucking stupid.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 05:14:04 PM
So, dipshit Danny Parkins goes from head Fields dicksucker (behind Tempo) to this.

https://x.com/670thescore/status/1729603914180218975?s=46

Sports radio is so fucking stupid.

So once you form an opinion it’s a requirement you stay with it forever?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 05:14:45 PM
Not defending Parkins, I think his takes on this have been dumb; but I don’t see why someone can’t change an opinion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 28, 2023, 05:21:50 PM
He’s welcome to do whatever he wants. But when he is so fucking adamant about something, then flips, it rings hollow to me.

Almost like he isn’t sincere, and is only interested in generating hot takes. Hmmm.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 28, 2023, 05:25:11 PM
He’s welcome to do whatever he wants. But when he is so fucking adamant about something, then flips, it rings hollow to me.

Almost like he isn’t sincere, and is only interested in generating hot takes. Hmmm.

Yeah most media people are this way. Whatever gets the most clicks. Truth or being genuine be damned!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 28, 2023, 05:54:12 PM
Usually it takes a lot to change a strong opinion. Not with Parkins tho.

His conviction is missing. Just like his chin.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 28, 2023, 05:56:00 PM
Usually it takes a lot to change a strong opinion. Not with Parkins tho.

His conviction is missing. Just like his chin.

And probably balls…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 06:54:25 PM
He’s welcome to do whatever he wants. But when he is so fucking adamant about something, then flips, it rings hollow to me.

Almost like he isn’t sincere, and is only interested in generating hot takes. Hmmm.

I think like many of us, he’s a franchise quarterback hungry Bears fan. He’s been wrong his share of times and it’s even a regularly made fun of bit on the show. It’s called the Danny Parkins “mush.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on November 28, 2023, 06:57:07 PM
I think like many of us, he’s a franchise quarterback hungry Bears fan. He’s been wrong his share of times and it’s even a regularly made fun of bit on the show. It’s called the Danny Parkins “mush.”

I don’t care
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 06:58:33 PM
Fans in general and This board for sure are overly obsessed with tearing down the talking heads. They are sometimes right, sometimes wrong. They can’t just let an announcer announce or a talking head talk. It’s all micro-analyzed. I don’t get the obsession. I just enjoy listening to and and participating in the discussion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 06:59:01 PM
I don’t care

That’s why you are so kewl. You are the James Dean of HQ.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2023, 07:28:20 PM
That’s why you are so kewl. You are the James Dean of HQ.

Possible sig worthy for Jobu. Nahhh...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2023, 07:28:45 PM
Fans in general and This board for sure are overly obsessed with tearing down the talking heads. They are sometimes right, sometimes wrong. They can’t just let an announcer announce or a talking head talk. It’s all micro-analyzed. I don’t get the obsession. I just enjoy listening to and and participating in the discussion.

This is pretty ironic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 08:14:29 PM
h
This is pretty ironic.

Am I the one demanding things from the Chicago Bears? Immediate success in the first actual year of a rebuild? You don’t see me crying about lack of success from the Illini (anymore).
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 08:15:31 PM
The worst part is the vitriol. I don’t understand why it’s necessary. I like Justin Fields, you don’t. Great.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2023, 08:18:01 PM
Am I the one demanding things from the Chicago Bears? Immediate success in the first actual year of a rebuild? You don’t see me crying about lack of success from the Illini (anymore).

Yes, you are demanding things from the Bears. You want them to allow Fields to throw the ball vertically when he, himself, refuses to do so by holding onto the ball too long.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 09:00:13 PM
Yes, you are demanding things from the Bears. You want them to allow Fields to throw the ball vertically when he, himself, refuses to do so by holding onto the ball too long.

Damn, you got me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2023, 09:00:38 PM
Damn, you got me.

LOL, that was funny.  To me at least
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on November 28, 2023, 09:05:54 PM
The worst part is the vitriol. I don’t understand why it’s necessary. I like Justin Fields, you don’t. Great.

You’re the one upset WE don’t like Fields. What the fuck?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 09:07:44 PM
You’re the one upset WE don’t like Fields. What the fuck?!

I’m sure there’s some give and pull both ways, but I can assure you I absorb most of it. I know, I know, victim…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 09:14:35 PM
Coincidence that the defense has looked much improved since the arrival of Sweat?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 09:17:40 PM
I don’t know why so many Bears fans seem to relish rooting against Fields. How can you not root for this guy if you’re a Bears fan?

https://x.com/officialjaychi/status/1729535863728509222?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2023, 09:18:11 PM
Coincidence that the defense has looked much improved since the arrival of Sweat?

Regardless of the merits of the Sweat trade, lot of people getting their heads out over their skis with this defense. It was just a couple of weeks ago the D got throttled by the Charger.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 09:19:08 PM
Regardless of the merits of the Sweat trade, lot of people getting their heads out over their skis with this defense. It was just a couple of weeks ago the D got throttled by the Charger.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2023, 09:21:10 PM
Lol

Why is that funny? The D was freaking terrible against the Charger and people are acting like this group is the 85 Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 09:24:21 PM
Why is that funny? The D was freaking terrible against the Charger and people are acting like this group is the 85 Bears.

For one, that was BEFORE they acquired Sweat. Secondly, there’s always a “yeah but” with you. Always. Fields could lead the Bears to a Super Bowl and you’d be like “Yeah but he fumbled on that one drive so can’t give him credit for the win.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 09:26:06 PM
Why is that funny? The D was freaking terrible against the Charger and people are acting like this group is the 85 Bears.

Who’s “acting like they are the ‘85 Bears?” They are vastly improved the last few starts, and that’s undeniable.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 28, 2023, 10:18:49 PM
For one, that was BEFORE they acquired Sweat. Secondly, there’s always a “yeah but” with you. Always. Fields could lead the Bears to a Super Bowl and you’d be like “Yeah but he fumbled on that one drive so can’t give him credit for the win.”

Sweat is worth 17 points?  Wow!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 10:47:34 PM
Sweat is worth 17 points?  Wow!

Who said that?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 28, 2023, 10:48:05 PM
Did I say anything about winning the Chargers game if we had sweat?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 03:21:06 AM
https://ontapsportsnet.com/bears/montez-sweat-bears-pass-rush-blitz-rate-impact-gervon-dexter-demarcus-walker
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 29, 2023, 06:46:44 AM
Who said that?

They lost 30-13. What difference was Sweat going to make in that game? It is not as if he is constantly being double teamed by opponents on pass blocking.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 29, 2023, 07:19:54 AM
Just a reminder that Dobbs, a journeyman back-up missing one of the best receivers in the league, missed a wide open by a mile Jordan Addison for the win.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 29, 2023, 07:31:49 AM
Just a reminder that Dobbs, a journeyman back-up missing one of the best receivers in the league, missed a wide open by a mile Jordan Addison for the win.

It was the Bear D that made him throw that ball out of bounds.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 07:38:41 AM
They lost 30-13. What difference was Sweat going to make in that game? It is not as if he is constantly being double teamed by opponents on pass blocking.

Lol the difference is the defense may have played better? No one said anything about him making up a 17 point difference. You extrapolated that on your own.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 07:39:10 AM
Just a reminder that Dobbs, a journeyman back-up missing one of the best receivers in the league, missed a wide open by a mile Jordan Addison for the win.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 29, 2023, 09:36:56 AM
Lol the difference is the defense may have played better? No one said anything about him making up a 17 point difference. You extrapolated that on your own.

So, less than 17 point difference with Sweat?

Not hard to play better given how they played that night.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 29, 2023, 09:41:29 AM
Since they played the Charger, they have faced the Saint (24 points allowed to that juggernaut offense), gave up 13 to the awesome Panther offense, somehow gave up 31 to the Lions who now suck (but still beat the Bear), and 10 to the Dobbs' led Viking. Ok. The D is coming around as long as they play really shitty QBs as opposed to just average to bad QBs!  :o
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 09:43:40 AM
JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 29, 2023, 09:45:13 AM
JFC

Lay down after presentation of facts noted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 09:48:02 AM
Literally nothing satisfies you. I bet you’re still mad the Patriots scored 10 points against the Bears in the Super Bowl. You are totally unreasonable.

No one is saying the defense is the best in the league. It’s clearly been better, and getting better. “But but but the Charger…” You’re irrepressible.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 09:50:57 AM
They’ve produced 8 turnovers and played by and large really well on the road two weeks in a row, one against a Super Bowl contender, and another against one of the hotter teams in the league and you have to pooh pooh everything. You must be a real joy at the dinner table.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 29, 2023, 09:53:47 AM
Literally nothing satisfies you. I bet you’re still mad the Patriots scored 10 points against the Bears in the Super Bowl. You are totally unreasonable.

No one is saying the defense is the best in the league. It’s clearly been better, and getting better. “But but but the Charger…” You’re irrepressible.

The point is the schedule. Yes, they look better, but  shouldn't they look better playing the Saints, Panthers, and Vikings? Not like the Lions have looked good lately either.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 09:55:41 AM
The Vikings had won 5 of their last 6. Their last loss was by 1 on the road to a surging Broncos team. They beat the shit out of the 49ers and lost by 7 to the Chiefs. When will you learn this isn’t fucking college? Winning in the NFL is hard.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 09:56:29 AM
You have a total and utter lack of respect for how difficult the NFL is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 09:58:55 AM
You completely lack perspective.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 29, 2023, 11:13:12 AM
You completely lack perspective.

Ironic
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 11:17:19 AM
Winning in the NFL is easy! Why don’t the Bears dominate?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 29, 2023, 11:56:33 AM
Winning in the NFL is easy! Why don’t the Bears dominate?!

I thought we were talking about whether the defense has actually improved versus playing shitty QBs (or average QBs). Coughing up a double digit 4th quarter lead to the Lions is apparently improvement in some circles.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 01:11:19 PM
Narrative machine must be fed narratives. Or it will become very angry. Maybe destroy everyone and everything.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 01:12:08 PM
You’re impossible. Your wife must be a saint.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on November 29, 2023, 01:15:49 PM
You’re impossible. Your wife must be a saint.

We are a fact-based, and not an excuse-based, marriage.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 29, 2023, 01:16:42 PM
We are a fact-based, and not an excuse-based, marriage.

Sounds exhilarating
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: HateTheTank on November 30, 2023, 03:56:07 AM
How often did you play to lose ? Did you tell your teammates about it, or just keep it to yourself ?

You PLAY…to WIN…the GAME!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on November 30, 2023, 07:54:57 AM
You PLAY…to WIN…the GAME!

Agreed!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2023, 11:55:06 AM
If the Bears were not incompetent in the 4th quarter (gave away the Lion game and Fields turned around the Bronco's season), they would be contending for a playoff spot right now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 04, 2023, 11:56:44 AM
If the Bears were not incompetent in the 4th quarter (gave away the Lion game and Fields turned around the Bronco's season), they would be contending for a playoff spot right now.
We were contending for a bowl spot until the very end.  ;D
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2023, 03:21:54 PM
If the Bears were not incompetent in the 4th quarter (gave away the Lion game and Fields turned around the Bronco's season), they would be contending for a playoff spot right now.

Sounds like you’re saying they’re closer than everyone like you is complaining about.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 04, 2023, 03:23:27 PM
And it’s funny how you love bashing choke jobs, particularly defensive but somehow never allude to the defenses’ clear role in losing the Denver game. Hugely convenient for your narrative, I’m sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2023, 03:35:37 PM
Sounds like you’re saying they’re closer than everyone like you is complaining about.

They play the easiest schedule yet still suck. Need a QB badly.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 04, 2023, 03:36:06 PM
And it’s funny how you love bashing choke jobs, particularly defensive but somehow never allude to the defenses’ clear role in losing the Denver game. Hugely convenient for your narrative, I’m sure.

Because Fields saved the Bronco's season with his 4th quarter choke job.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 09:03:52 AM
Would be totally down for a trade with NE to ensure MHJ, but a 3rd and a 4th aren’t enough. I’d do it for this years and next years 2nds. That is still a very fair trade for NE to ensure they get who they want.

https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-mock-draft-features-no-182941830.html
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 05, 2023, 12:52:26 PM
Here is my wish for coach of the Chicago Bears…

https://x.com/jasrifootball/status/1732062216793338252?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 02:07:47 PM
Would be totally down for a trade with NE to ensure MHJ, but a 3rd and a 4th aren’t enough. I’d do it for this years and next years 2nds. That is still a very fair trade for NE to ensure they get who they want.

https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-mock-draft-features-no-182941830.html

Yesterday, you said  the Bear could not be trusted to draft wisely but today you want them to make a trade to move up?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 02:12:19 PM
Bill Walsh is alleged to have said to build the remainder of your team first before you focus on receivers.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 02:21:11 PM
Here is my wish for coach of the Chicago Bears…

https://x.com/jasrifootball/status/1732062216793338252?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

No thanks. If a guy has been passed on that many times, there’s probably a reason. We’ve done the Reid offense thing. I’ll take it if Andy comes with.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 02:24:27 PM
Bill Walsh is alleged to have said to build the remainder of your team first before you focus on receivers.

In today’s game that makes sense. Everyone said Cincinnati should draft a LT, Burrow wanted Chase, they gave him to him and the next two years were SB and AFC Championship game. Look what Hill does/did for KC and Miami. Brown for for Philly. When Deebo was out Purdy struggled.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 02:29:39 PM
When Williams was out Purdy struggled
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 02:43:43 PM
When Williams was out Purdy struggled

Both can be true. I believe Purdy’s 3 bad games directly correlated with Deebo’s absence. Wasn’t even aware of Williams. It’s almost as if what you have around you matters.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 02:49:13 PM
It’s kind of like when Tom Brady was in the league, “he the best QB ever, or the GOAT,” yet there was Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers winning MVPs.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 02:52:36 PM
Only at HQ will you be called out for attempting to be objective.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 05, 2023, 02:56:08 PM
Only at HQ will you be called out for attempting to be objective.

Only at HQ will you be called out for not knowing the difference between objective and subjective.

Objective means verifiable information based on facts and evidence. Subjective means information or perspectives based on feelings, opinions, or emotions.

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 02:56:17 PM
Both can be true. I believe Purdy’s 3 bad games directly correlated with Deebo’s absence. Wasn’t even aware of Williams. It’s almost as if what you have around you matters.

Shocking that you were unaware of him missing games.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 02:59:57 PM
Only at HQ will you be called out for not knowing the difference between objective and subjective.

Objective means verifiable information based on facts and evidence. Subjective means information or perspectives based on feelings, opinions, or emotions.

I know what they mean. Im a little groggy and fucked it up. Congrats on the victory.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 05, 2023, 03:01:03 PM
Holy shit, this site is gonna crash. Tempo admitted he was wrong about something.

Of course, he was objectively wrong...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 03:01:39 PM
Shocking that you were unaware of him missing games.

SHOCKING. PATHETIC even.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 03:03:47 PM
SHOCKING. PATHETIC even.

From someone who acts like an expert, yeah, it is a little pathetic that you didn't know they were missing the best, if not Top 3, at a minimum, but best, maybe second best, LT in the game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 03:04:32 PM
PATHETIC
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 03:05:37 PM
Holy shit, this site is gonna crash. Tempo admitted he was wrong about something.

Of course, he was objectively wrong...

I have admitted to being wrong on things
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 03:07:03 PM
PATHETIC

Objectively, yeah, it was.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 05, 2023, 03:07:31 PM
I have admitted to being wrong on things

Lol, not really. Stop lying, dude
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 05, 2023, 03:07:51 PM
From someone who acts like an expert, yeah, it is a little pathetic that you didn't know they were missing the best, if not Top 3, at a minimum, but best, maybe second best, LT in the game.

Lol, wow
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 03:08:27 PM
Lol, not really. Stop lying, dude

Are you saying he is wrong about admitting he was wrong or wrong about once being wrong?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 05, 2023, 03:12:06 PM
Are you saying he is wrong about admitting he was wrong or wrong about once being wrong?

The former. I think
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 03:20:47 PM
Objectively, yeah, it was.

I remember when I was 12.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 03:22:03 PM
Only on HQ will you get mocked for allowing that you could be wrong.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 03:23:18 PM
Seriously, how did you not know Williams missed those games with all the gambling you do? That's a big miss not knowing the LT is out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 05, 2023, 03:45:40 PM
Only on HQ will you get mocked for allowing that you could be wrong.

It's not mocking. It's being taken aback. Because it's just something you struggle with.

And, it wasn't allowing that you could be wrong. In this case, you were definitely wrong.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 03:45:48 PM
Seriously, how did you not know Williams missed those games with all the gambling you do? That's a big miss not knowing the LT is out.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 03:50:58 PM
It's not mocking. It's being taken aback. Because it's just something you struggle with.

And, it wasn't allowing that you could be wrong. In this case, you were definitely wrong.

I fucked up the objective/subjecrive thing. I was a little groggy having just woken up. My bad. That’s what I was wrong about.

What I was trying to be “objective” about was my opinion on Ja’Marr Chase.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 03:56:17 PM
Lol

Sincere retort.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 04:02:31 PM
I am a small stakes DFS player. There are contests that have a larger entry feel than I play 12 weeks. It’s not like I’ve got $500-$1000 on very prime time game.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 04:03:07 PM
The majority of contests I play are $1-5.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 04:04:29 PM
I am a small stakes DFS player. There are contests that have a larger entry feel than I play 12 weeks. It’s not like I’ve got $500-$1000 on very prime time game.

I do not do it, but I would think injured LTs would factor into DFS selections. I obviously am wrong.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 05, 2023, 04:05:07 PM
Lol, not really. Stop lying, dude
He'S sTiLL gRoGGy
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 05, 2023, 04:05:43 PM
He'S sTiLL gRoGGy
Lol

LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 04:06:15 PM
I do not do it, but I would think injured LTs would factor into DFS selections. I obviously am wrong.

It could, but that would probably be overanalysis. In DFS you make your money by being contrarian and being right. So you could theorize that injuries could make a player more attractive to play.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 04:07:26 PM
He'S sTiLL gRoGGy
Lol

Mn’s weekly funny post.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 04:08:02 PM
Or should I say “weakly?”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 07:27:54 PM
Wouldn’t hate this draft at all. Bears get MHJ, Latu, Newton, and Nix. Sign me up.

https://beargoggleson.com/posts/chicago-bears-7-round-mock-draft-01hgsaz4fw8j/3
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 05, 2023, 08:44:08 PM
Harbaugh probably out. Didn’t think of this…

https://x.com/jasrifootball/status/1732173860147974405?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

I’d bet posting rights on us getting Bieneimy. Either HC or OC for next year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 08:48:41 PM
He was always out.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 08:49:53 PM
And that’s before I knew about this. He doesn’t fit the McCaskey profile in the least, and I can’t see Poles giving Harbaugh the type of control he’d demand.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 05, 2023, 08:51:00 PM
True. I just totally forgot about the Warren ties from the B1G.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 08:51:12 PM
Ron Rivera is gone. If Washington doesn’t keep Bienemy that should tell you a lot. I don’t see him being here either.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 05, 2023, 08:54:06 PM
Lastly, the Bears have never once paid big money for a coach, don’t see them starting now. Harbaugh is a perfect fit for the Raiders. Marc Davis would give him everything he wants.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 05, 2023, 08:59:06 PM
Lastly, the Bears have never once paid big money for a coach, don’t see them starting now. Harbaugh is a perfect fit for the Raiders. Marc Davis would give him everything he wants.

I could see the Panthers too…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 06, 2023, 07:51:24 AM
And that’s before I knew about this. He doesn’t fit the McCaskey profile in the least, and I can’t see Poles giving Harbaugh the type of control he’d demand.

And this is exactly why people say this organization is trash. The McCaskey profile hasn't won shit. Maybe a different profile is needed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2023, 07:58:44 AM
They have a personality preference they desire, which doesn’t impact competence. Lovie fit the profile and he was pretty competent. One could make the case he shouldn’t have been fired. If they want a certain personality profile fine; just hire a competent one.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2023, 08:03:10 AM
And to be honest, I’m not sure that Eberflus isn’t competent. I know no one here wants to hear that, but if that defense keeps playing at a high level and they look solid down the stretch, there’s a good chance he’s coming back. Regardless of how bad his press conferences sometimes are.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2023, 08:06:30 AM
And to be honest, I’m not sure that Eberflus isn’t competent. I know no one here wants to hear that, but if that defense keeps playing at a high level and they look solid down the stretch, there’s a good chance he’s coming back. Regardless of how bad his press conferences sometimes are.

And that’s exactly how/where you insert Beiniemy into that OC role…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2023, 08:08:18 AM
Not exactly following. You’re saying they should hire Bieniemy as OC?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2023, 08:09:43 AM
I’m guessing this is the year Bieniemy finally gets a HC gig, and my guess would be he stays where he is.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 06, 2023, 08:11:38 AM
Not exactly following. You’re saying they should hire Bieniemy as OC?

I’m saying there’s probably a 90% chance he’s either our OC or HC next year. That is of course if Washington decides they don’t want him as HC after disposing of Rivera. I think Beiniemy in my opinion was Poles choice all along if he got to make it on his own. Obvious if they keep Flus, he’d be our OC. They can him, he has a shot as HC.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2023, 08:28:51 AM
I’d say no, but the Poles connection is hard to overlook. They obviously know each other well. I could live with OC, I don’t want him as HC. There’s probably a reason he’s been passed on repeatedly, and we’ve done the Andy Reid offense/disciple thing. And you guys know me, I usually like the black guy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 06, 2023, 09:15:23 AM
Bieniemy is too busy getting Howell killed on a weekly basis to be the Bear HC or OC.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: IlliniGolf on December 06, 2023, 12:44:42 PM
I’d say no, but the Poles connection is hard to overlook. They obviously know each other well. I could live with OC, I don’t want him as HC. There’s probably a reason he’s been passed on repeatedly, and we’ve done the Andy Reid offense/disciple thing. And you guys know me, I usually like the black guy.

Black head coaches are very rarely successful, probby because whitey keeps em down
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 06, 2023, 12:51:49 PM
I have access to Bears tickets for Sunday. I can vaguely remember the day when I was like, fuck yeah, Bears game let's go. Now, I'm kinda wondering if it's worth fucking with getting up there, trying to park, fighting the crowd, dealing with the weather (High of 40 chance of rain, actually not bad for Chicago in December) and trying to get the fuck out of there and get home.

Totally on the fence. Which is kinda sad.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 06, 2023, 07:01:14 PM
I have access to Bears tickets for Sunday. I can vaguely remember the day when I was like, fuck yeah, Bears game let's go. Now, I'm kinda wondering if it's worth fucking with getting up there, trying to park, fighting the crowd, dealing with the weather (High of 40 chance of rain, actually not bad for Chicago in December) and trying to get the fuck out of there and get home.

Totally on the fence. Which is kinda sad.

You should come up Saturday and Tempo and I, and anyone else up here, could meet you and we could stay out all night at some 4am or 5am bar.

Then you can go directly to your tailgate....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 06, 2023, 07:26:05 PM
You should come up Saturday and Tempo and I, and anyone else up here, could meet you and we could stay out all night at some 4am or 5am bar.

Then you can go directly to your tailgate....

Dammit..looked at the calendar and have a party to go to in Arlington Heights. Everyone is older and married so it will definitely be over by midnight...can always meet after that!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2023, 07:55:32 PM
Arlington Heights is close to Itasca.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 06, 2023, 08:21:51 PM
I have access to Bears tickets for Sunday. I can vaguely remember the day when I was like, fuck yeah, Bears game let's go. Now, I'm kinda wondering if it's worth fucking with getting up there, trying to park, fighting the crowd, dealing with the weather (High of 40 chance of rain, actually not bad for Chicago in December) and trying to get the fuck out of there and get home.

Totally on the fence. Which is kinda sad.

Sounds terrible
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 06, 2023, 09:46:17 PM
Dammit..looked at the calendar and have a party to go to in Arlington Heights. Everyone is older and married so it will definitely be over by midnight...can always meet after that!

Wife and I would come up Sunday morning. Can’t do Saturday night.

That’s if we even go.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 06, 2023, 09:46:39 PM
Sounds terrible

Yeah, it kinda does
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2023, 10:11:04 PM
Wife and I would come up Sunday morning. Can’t do Saturday night.

That’s if we even go.

The wife, huh? You guys into swinging at all?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 06, 2023, 10:17:37 PM
The wife, huh? You guys into swinging at all?

Haha, nah.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2023, 10:31:00 PM
Haha, nah.

Well, that’s too bad
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 06, 2023, 10:31:08 PM
Haha, nah.

But you are willing to learn?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2023, 11:21:07 PM
But you are willing to learn?

Being willing to experiment is key
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 06, 2023, 11:25:21 PM
You can only rail the wives on the schedule
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 06, 2023, 11:54:08 PM
You can only rail the wives on the schedule

😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 07, 2023, 07:30:36 AM
You can only rail the wives on the schedule

Amazing
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on December 07, 2023, 07:33:45 AM
You can only rail the wives on the schedule
Kinda takes the spontaneity out of it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 07, 2023, 08:19:28 AM
You can only rail the wives on the schedule

I was thinking spectrum, but 🤷🏻‍♂️ schedule works too…
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 07, 2023, 10:49:38 AM
 !!!!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 01:21:02 PM
Ima no thanks. Red flags abound.

https://sports.yahoo.com/commanders-drama-grows-concerning-eric-104558991.html
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 07, 2023, 01:32:19 PM
Ima no thanks. Red flags abound.

https://sports.yahoo.com/commanders-drama-grows-concerning-eric-104558991.html

So what the fuck does this article even mean or imply he’s doing?!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 02:49:16 PM
So what the fuck does this article even mean or imply he’s doing?!

Being a dick, I guess.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 07, 2023, 03:27:03 PM
Being a dick, I guess.

Yeah I’m not really sure what it all means. I get there’s “red flags” but he gets results. Is he just making the players work hard and put in more time and effort and they really don’t like that or what does being “disrespectful” to their time and them really mean? I mean he’s not fucking abusing anybody that I’ve heard of. If you suck I think I appreciate that he’s making them work harder and longer. I get they wanna be doing something else and meeting are “running over time.” Isn’t that your profession though?! You suck, you get ahead by working harder and more time. Weird stance to be a “red flag” in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
He "got results" with Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, and Travis Kelce.

He gets "results" by throwing the shit out of and getting his quarterback sacked at a rate that would make Justin Fields blush. Howell's last three games have produced 1 TD to 5 Ints, perhaps the league is catching on to what they are doing. His quarterback's rating is like 6 points worse than Fields'.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 03:49:04 PM
Yeah I’m not really sure what it all means. I get there’s “red flags” but he gets results. Is he just making the players work hard and put in more time and effort and they really don’t like that or what does being “disrespectful” to their time and them really mean? I mean he’s not fucking abusing anybody that I’ve heard of. If you suck I think I appreciate that he’s making them work harder and longer. I get they wanna be doing something else and meeting are “running over time.” Isn’t that your profession though?! You suck, you get ahead by working harder and more time. Weird stance to be a “red flag” in my opinion.

When players are going to the HC to say "get a hold of yo boy," that ain't good.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 03:50:27 PM
NFL players want to be coached, but they also want to be respected.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 07, 2023, 04:07:01 PM
I don't want anyone from the Andy Reid tree. That's been tried already.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 04:13:31 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/vghL3Lm2/IMG-5846.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vghL3Lm2)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 07, 2023, 04:16:47 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/vghL3Lm2/IMG-5846.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vghL3Lm2)

Never heard all of that about him. Wonder if it's true.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 04:19:02 PM
He was definitley in a bar fight in college, suspended drivers license (always the tell! Lol), and definitely accused of assault
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 04:19:33 PM
I haven’t even gotten as far as the sexual assault cover up yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 04:20:48 PM
The bar fight he was allegedly called the N word, I could definitely let that go. But it’s not like that’s all of it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 07, 2023, 04:22:42 PM
Sounds like he made some bad decisions, a long time ago. If that affects his ability to get jobs, so be it, I guess. Life has consequences.

Do I think any of that affects his ability to coach a bunch of felons in the NFL? Not really. But I guess it seems like some players don't care for him or whatever.

Anyway, aside from all that, I don't want to go back to the Andy Reid tree.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 07, 2023, 04:31:58 PM
Actually, now that I think about it, I would take Doug Pederson in a heartbeat if he was available.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 05:34:22 PM
Actually, now that I think about it, I would take Doug Pederson in a heartbeat if he was available.

Probably a high floor, as well as good upside.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 08:23:05 PM
https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/wr-marquise-brown-darnell-mooney-replacement/amp/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 07, 2023, 08:25:30 PM
https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/wr-marquise-brown-darnell-mooney-replacement/amp/

Can be block? If Fields is the QB he is going to be targeted 42x like Mooney has been this year
 instead of over 100x...
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 08:34:59 PM
Let me guess, you agree with Brad Biggs that drafting Marvin Harrison is crazy because they already cant get the ball to Mooney enough?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 07, 2023, 08:46:05 PM
Let me guess, you agree with Brad Biggs that drafting Marvin Harrison is crazy because they already cant get the ball to Mooney enough?

No, because they are going to draft a new QB who, hopefully,  actually is willing to throw the ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 08:51:38 PM
No, because they are going to draft a new QB who, hopefully,  actually is willing to throw the ball.

Have your cup ready just in case.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 07, 2023, 08:59:28 PM
Have your cup ready just in case.

You too!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 09:04:54 PM
You too!

I’m well aware that there’s a good chance Justin Fields is not a Bear in 2024.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 07, 2023, 09:09:19 PM
I’m well aware that there’s a good chance Justin Fields is not a Bear in 2024.

I think they didn’t mind giving up the 2nd rounder for Sweat because they knew they could recoup it by trading Fields if needed. OR trading down if needed. Gives them lots of options. I honestly have no idea either what they’re gonna do, but I do think they’ll get a QB.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 09:10:25 PM
I think they didn’t mind giving up the 2nd rounder for Sweat because they knew they could recoup it by trading Fields if needed. OR trading down if needed. Gives them lots of options. I honestly have no idea either what they’re gonna do, but I do think they’ll get a QB.

Or maybe they knew they had a lot of draft capital and FA money and decided it was worth it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 09:11:53 PM
Ryan Poles is swimming in draft capital like whatever kid that was that was swimming in Asian butthole at U of I.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 07, 2023, 09:12:28 PM
Or maybe they knew they had a lot of draft capital and FA money and decided it was worth it.

Possible. I just know that I’d love to be a GM of a franchise. Like your real-life Madden franchise 😂
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 09:21:51 PM
Would be a fun gig.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 07, 2023, 09:44:08 PM
Have your cup ready just in case.

True
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 07, 2023, 10:00:57 PM
Ryan Poles is swimming in draft capital like whatever kid that was that was swimming in Asian butthole at U of I.

It was Michael Finke fwiw. Years ago, when smart phones were a new thing, I was at a drunken card party and one of my buddies pulled up some weird but hilarious video involving eels and one unlucky Japanese butthole. Every time “swimming in Asian butthole” is referenced, I think of that night.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on December 07, 2023, 10:01:00 PM
Being a pro sports GM would be stressful as fuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 07, 2023, 10:34:01 PM
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10100189-report-harrison-jr-henderson-offered-nil-deals-rivaling-1st-round-nfl-draft-money.amp.html

Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 11:11:00 PM
It was Michael Finke fwiw. Years ago, when smart phones were a new thing, I was at a drunken card party and one of my buddies pulled up some weird but hilarious video involving eels and one unlucky Japanese butthole. Every time “swimming in Asian butthole” is referenced, I think of that night.

That’s hilarious and thank you. I was struggling to remember who it was.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 07, 2023, 11:16:06 PM
Being a pro sports GM would be stressful as fuck.

So is managing the highest volume restaurant on Michigan Avenue, but one comes with much more money and prestige
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 08, 2023, 05:16:38 PM
Olin Kreutz said that if the Bears are looking at LT he’d try trading for a guy like Wirfs instead of going top 10 next year. Also said if he played a game in which someone didn’t want to fight him, he wasn’t playing hard enough 😂

Says he’d rather trade for a known commodity than gamble on top 10 LT
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 08, 2023, 05:28:06 PM
Gotta believe there’s a chance Poles has seen how the other top franchises have built their cores THEN gotten the quarterback. If he trades out of that pick he’s loaded to the gills with premium draft capital and cap space. Trade it to the right team and perhaps you’ve got a shot at the top pick in 3 straight drafts.

(https://i.postimg.cc/PNjJkfrn/IMG-5856.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNjJkfrn)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 09, 2023, 03:47:24 PM
Jobu and Mrs Jobu are going. Bear win incoming.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 09, 2023, 03:58:38 PM
Jobu and Mrs Jobu are going. Bear win incoming.

Have fun. Slide into my DMs if you change your mind on the swingers’ weekend.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 09, 2023, 04:23:25 PM
Have fun. Slide into my DMs if you change your mind on the swingers’ weekend.

LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 09, 2023, 05:09:01 PM
Have fun. Slide into my DMs if you change your mind on the swingers’ weekend.

Haha, ok. So, is your ex down for said swinging, or do you have someone else in mind?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 09, 2023, 05:37:54 PM
Haha, ok. So, is your ex down for said swinging, or do you have someone else in mind?


Just me.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 09, 2023, 05:41:50 PM


Just me.

No dice
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 09, 2023, 06:26:45 PM
No dice

What if I brought my Ass-Gasm vibrating cock ring plug? 4 1/2 stars
(https://i.postimg.cc/N0zRdgTt/IMG-5867.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rd5dm2QZ)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on December 09, 2023, 07:09:11 PM
What if I brought my Ass-Gasm vibrating cock ring plug? 4 1/2 stars
(https://i.postimg.cc/N0zRdgTt/IMG-5867.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rd5dm2QZ)

lol, there’s a podcast I listen to that makes fun of people’s reviews. This is one of the products they reviewed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 11, 2023, 04:00:43 PM
Who remembers back to 4-5 weeks ago when Montez Sweat was a BUST?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 11, 2023, 04:03:59 PM
Someone do a wellness check on Mn. Seriously.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 11, 2023, 04:15:21 PM
Interesting comments from Poles.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjJCBWGz/IMG-5896.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5YV5BrLb)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 11, 2023, 04:22:02 PM
Interesting comments from Poles.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjJCBWGz/IMG-5896.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5YV5BrLb)

(https://media.tenor.com/E3AVRkViPTsAAAAd/right-dr-evil.gif)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 11, 2023, 04:37:51 PM
Lay down noted.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 12, 2023, 08:59:17 AM
Ron Rivera as Bears DC next year makes all kinds of sense.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2023, 02:45:43 PM
Written by a woman, so probably not worth reading.

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/12/montez-sweat-has-made-chicago-bears-a-top-5-defense-in-nfl/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2023, 06:06:45 PM
https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/peter-king-draft-plans-trade-pick/amp/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 07:26:21 PM
I did a chef's kiss at "insider" Peter King.

I legit don't know what to say about anyone who watched Fields play on Sunday and was like "he played well".  I'd guess 50/50 Peter King did actually watch him though.

Like I said before, they are obviously looking for something very, very different than I am from my quarterback.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2023, 08:44:50 PM
I did a chef's kiss at "insider" Peter King.

I legit don't know what to say about anyone who watched Fields play on Sunday and was like "he played well".  I'd guess 50/50 Peter King did actually watch him though.

Like I said before, they are obviously looking for something very, very different than I am from my quarterback.

Chase Daniel thought he played well and did an A22 review. I would think Chase would know a thing or two about quarterback play.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2023, 08:45:26 PM
Peter King is no Brad Biggs to be sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 09:15:54 PM
Chase Daniel thought he played well and did an A22 review. I would think Chase would know a thing or two about quarterback play.

Yeah, a credible opinion
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 09:16:55 PM
Peter King is no Brad Biggs to be sure.

If you were wondering what the Illinois basketball coaching staff was thinking would you be more likely to trust Jay Bilas or Jeremy Werner?

It seems like the real determination of 'credility' to you is whether they agree with you.

I'll agree, all of these dudes - Peter King, JT O Sullivan, Chase Daniel - these guys are more credible football voices than me.  But I don't think it's a coincidence that you latch onto the voices who agree with you and argue their "credibility" over and over, while mocking people who post voices who don't agree with you (even when, in any other situation, you'd obviously argue that the team beat writer probably has a better idea what the team is thinking than a national guy like King).

Like you mock Brad Biggs but surely he's more credible than you, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2023, 09:30:30 PM
I think the writer was providing clickbait there. Peter king as far as I noticed didn’t seem to be trying to break news. It looked to me like he was giving an opinion.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 13, 2023, 09:39:44 PM
I’m not sure Brad Biggs is more credible than me. I knew he was dumb as shit when he said the Bears were likely to draft Jalen Carter #1 because he wasn’t convinced there would be much interest in the top pick.

He blasted the “lose out crowd” last year with like 4 games to go. Because he thought they should be “learning how to win.” Any person with an iQ above 12 knew the roster would be dramatically different this year. He’s just not a very forward thinking journalist IMO. He’s an even more boring leather helmet take guy than Hub Arkush.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on December 13, 2023, 10:08:30 PM
I’m not sure Brad Biggs is more credible than me. I knew he was dumb as shit when he said the Bears were likely to draft Jalen Carter #1 because he wasn’t convinced there would be much interest in the top pick.

He blasted the “lose out crowd” last year with like 4 games to go. Because he thought they should be “learning how to win.” Any person with an iQ above 12 knew the roster would be dramatically different this year. He’s just not a very forward thinking journalist IMO. He’s an even more boring leather helmet take guy than Hub Arkush.

ok
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 17, 2023, 08:32:25 PM
I’d offer Jaylon Johnson a 5-year, 95 million contract. Say take it or leave it. Going up 1 million (96 million) more is max and let him walk after that if he doesn’t accept.

https://x.com/jacobinfante24/status/1736463097882182062?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/02/22/nfl-highest-paid-cornerbacks-2023-season-rankings/69929273007/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2023, 03:39:33 PM


Like you mock Brad Biggs but surely he's more credible than you, right?

This comment was made before I compared myself to Brad Biggs. Why? Because I didn’t buy into what he was saying whole cloth. And I gave a couple of examples of where he was fairly wildly wrong in the past.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2023, 03:40:36 PM
I didn’t just blurt out that I was more credible than him. I was asked about it.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2023, 03:41:11 PM
And then I gave a tongue in cheek response to point out that he’s been wrong before.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on December 21, 2023, 05:04:46 PM
This comment was made before I compared myself to Brad Biggs. Why? Because I didn’t buy into what he was saying whole cloth. And I gave a couple of examples of where he was fairly wildly wrong in the past.

I was trying to see if you were so shameless and dug in that you couldn’t even acknowledge that the Bears’ beat writer is a more credible source than you about the Bears.

Asked and answered.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on December 21, 2023, 05:05:31 PM
And then I gave a tongue in cheek response to point out that he’s been wrong before.

You made it pretty clear you thought you were just as credible as him since he was wrong about the draft.

If you wanna nudge nudge wink wink it and say “I was kidding!” now a week later that’s fine but like, I think we both know.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2023, 07:38:56 PM
I was merely making the case he’s been wrong before, and I don’t think he was giving us inside info. If he had good inside info he’d have surely known they didn’t want Carter.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 21, 2023, 07:40:51 PM
For those who downplay injuries, just look at how improved the Rams have been since getting Kyren Williams back. He’s made a huge difference.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 21, 2023, 08:15:58 PM
I do not believe your opinion can be trusted. You predicted the Bear would win 10 games and were as wrong as Brad Biggs was about the draft.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2023, 09:25:46 AM
Remember when the healthier Bear squad played a team with a USFL offensive line and safeties and was on its 4th QB for the season and the Bear still lost? I do. It was only last weekend.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
lol @ safeties comment. As if the Browns defense was helpless. Fields put up better numbers (and would have been much better without drops) at Cleveland than the front runner for MVP, and Fields did it in wet and windy conditions. But “safeties”. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2023, 10:58:07 AM
For those who downplay injuries, just look at how improved the Rams have been since getting Kyren Williams back. He’s made a huge difference.

Back to Kyren Williams. He’s made a huge difference for them (McVay even said so after the game), and he plays a position of “low value.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 22, 2023, 11:20:16 AM
lol @ safeties comment. As if the Browns defense was helpless. Fields put up better numbers (and would have been much better without drops) at Cleveland than the front runner for MVP, and Fields did it in wet and windy conditions. But “safeties”. Lol

LOL. The Brown D was not ravaged by injuries in October like they were last week, plus Purdy at least got the 49er into FG range with a chance to win the game. More evidence of how the FFFs are dishonest and disingenuous in order  to protect a shitty QB. It would be laughable if it were not so pathetic.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2023, 01:54:48 PM
LOL. The Brown D was not ravaged by injuries in October like they were last week, plus Purdy at least got the 49er into FG range with a chance to win the game. More evidence of how the FFFs are dishonest and disingenuous in order  to protect a shitty QB. It would be laughable if it were not so pathetic.

#ravaged #fgrange
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2023, 01:55:47 PM
Twitter, Parkins! A good watch, though.

https://x.com/dannyparkins/status/1737521162681299429?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 22, 2023, 08:51:01 PM
This is nuts if true. This would make him higher paid than McVay, Shanahan, Tomlin, Harbaugh, and Andy Reid. $15 mil per would place him tied for 3rd with Pete Carroll.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/lions-offensive-coordinator-ben-johnson-apparently-wants-at-least-15-million-per-year-to-be-a-head-coach/
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2023, 04:52:45 PM
Must sell out for the next win…

https://x.com/brightsidebears/status/1738628392533045292?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2023, 04:57:07 PM
Must sell out for the next win…

https://x.com/brightsidebears/status/1738628392533045292?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Between Eberlose, Getsy, and Fields, there is always a good chance of losing even with double digit 4th quarter leads.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2023, 05:18:38 PM
Oh look, a teams’ 2nd best receiver just made an explosive 80 yard play. I did not know that was allowed.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on December 23, 2023, 05:41:47 PM
Oh look, a teams’ 2nd best receiver just made an explosive 80 yard play. I did not know that was allowed.
Amazing what happens when the QB throws the ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 23, 2023, 05:56:33 PM
Amazing what happens when the QB throws the ball.

Lulz
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 25, 2023, 03:27:42 PM
Bears still included in the ‘playoff hunt’ graphic 😂

In the hunt for a new QB
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 25, 2023, 04:46:17 PM
It’s a longshot but they are not mathematically eliminated.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on December 27, 2023, 07:25:03 PM
https://twitter.com/ProFootballHOF/status/1740178933058801878

Singlehandedly won the Bears a lot of games in his prime. Hope he gets in!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 27, 2023, 11:07:39 PM
He’s surely a first ballot guy right
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 27, 2023, 11:43:54 PM
He’s surely a first ballot guy right

I think this is his third year on the ballot so apparently not
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on December 28, 2023, 07:36:06 AM
Well shit
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on December 28, 2023, 08:27:29 AM
I think this is his third year on the ballot so apparently not

Yeah it should be damn crime. Unbelievable actually they allowed this to happen.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on December 28, 2023, 11:29:33 AM
I could see maybe keeping him out year one but he should’ve been in last year
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2024, 07:51:00 AM
1-6 versus playoff teams but Kool-Aid34 want to bring Eberlose and Fields back because their replacements might actually be worse....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 08, 2024, 08:49:36 AM
1-6 versus playoff teams but Kool-Aid34 want to bring Eberlose and Fields back because their replacements might actually be worse....

What about record 2nd half of season? They aren’t “there” yet, but the team was significantly improved.

Also, tell me who you want to bring in.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2024, 09:33:27 AM
What about record 2nd half of season? They aren’t “there” yet, but the team was significantly improved.

Also, tell me who you want to bring in.

Who is applying for the Falcon and Commander jobs? Let's start there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2024, 09:35:10 AM
What about record 2nd half of season? They aren’t “there” yet, but the team was significantly improved.

Also, tell me who you want to bring in.

As I told you as it was happening, those wins were a mirage. Yesterday showed that I was right.

Being AOTC is actually not difficult to do when talking about Poles, Everlose, Fields, and Getsy.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 08, 2024, 01:21:42 PM
It's past 1:00 already. How the fuck are Eberlose and his clown coaching staff still employed? Oh right. The Bears are incompetent.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 08, 2024, 01:31:32 PM
It's past 1:00 already. How the fuck are Eberlose and his clown coaching staff still employed? Oh right. The Bears are incompetent.

I know. It is pathetic. But hey, Poles apparently canceled his social media!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on January 08, 2024, 02:44:58 PM
I’ve been doing some deep Madden research and it proves without a doubt that if the Bears sell their future completely to trade up from 9 and take both Williams and Harrison, MHJ will be ROY/OPOY and Williams will be MVP, and both will set the yardage and TD records at their position as rookies.  Williams will definitely throw a lot of picks though because I am not that good at quickly reading defenses on All Madden.

Also if my research is accurate Marvin Harrison is white and Brock Bowers is black but that probably depends on which draft class they end up downloading.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 09, 2024, 03:09:21 PM
Titans fired Vrabel who had 3 playoff appearances and 4 winning records in 6 seasons.

Bears are likely hanging on to a coach with a losing culture who blows 4th quarter leads.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 09, 2024, 03:12:25 PM
Don’t worry, we’re in good hands!!!! 😂

https://x.com/jacobinfante24/status/1744771843758666009?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 09, 2024, 03:26:09 PM
Don’t worry, we’re in good hands!!!! 😂

https://x.com/jacobinfante24/status/1744771843758666009?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Sadly I could see 100% see this happening. 🤣🤣

Do love me some Jon Taffer and Bar Rescue though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 09, 2024, 03:27:56 PM
Sadly I could see 100% see this happening. 🤣🤣

Do love me some Jon Taffer and Bar Rescue though.

Oh yeah, Jon Taffer doesn’t fuck around!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 09, 2024, 07:10:45 PM
Titans fired Vrabel who had 3 playoff appearances and 4 winning records in 6 seasons.

Bears are likely hanging on to a coach with a losing culture who blows 4th quarter leads.

13-21 last two, hadn’t won a playoff game in 5 years. Sometimes it’s just time for a new voice and an overhaul.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on January 10, 2024, 10:00:29 AM
Fired Getsy and Janocko.  Kept Eberflus.

Seems incredibly likely the Bears are in a similarly bad position a year from now with Eberflus.  Can’t imagine some top OC is going to tie his star to a coach liable to be on the street a year from now, and no matter who the QB is you are either picking a top guy with a lame duck HC, or you’re saddling Fields with his third new system in four years.

This franchise fucking sucks.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2024, 10:03:45 AM
Could have had a guy who won with Kaepernick but stuck with a suckass DC who blows double digit leads regularly
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2024, 10:07:16 AM
It's always great when your next season is already fucked before the last season is even done.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 10, 2024, 10:09:07 AM
Maybe they could get Arthur Smith as their OC. He did fine with the Titans in that role. I don't know.

Should have fired the whole fucking lot IMO.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on January 10, 2024, 10:19:29 AM
FWIW I would expect everything else to come out of this off-season to be bullshit until the pick or Fields is traded.

There’s about to be a ton of gamesmanship and smoke screen nonsense about what they’re going to do at QB to try to add value, but probably nothing really worth discussing until they actually make the move (if they’re smart; which they probably aren’t I guess)
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2024, 10:27:16 AM
Maybe they could get Arthur Smith as their OC. He did fine with the Titans in that role. I don't know.

Should have fired the whole fucking lot IMO.

Eberlose won't do that because Smith would be a candidate to replace him midseason next year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 10, 2024, 10:35:06 AM

This franchise fucking sucks.

❤️
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 11:08:32 AM
Anyone who didn’t expect this wasn’t paying attention.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 11:09:28 AM
Could have had a guy who won with Kaepernick but stuck with a suckass DC who blows double digit leads regularly

Harbaugh was never coming here. I told you this.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on January 10, 2024, 11:13:19 AM
Loser organization.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 11:21:03 AM
Unexciting, but justifiable move. Fields’ chances of staying just went up.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2024, 11:25:28 AM
Harbaugh was never coming here. I told you this.

But a woman reported they were talking!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on January 10, 2024, 11:36:05 AM
Excited for another year of the exact same arguments we’ve had the last two.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on January 10, 2024, 11:36:56 AM
Anyone who didn’t expect this wasn’t paying attention.

Correct.  The Bears pretty much exclusively half ass things and make moves that are obviously bad when they make them, and then Pikachu-face when they don’t work out.

This is why they’re an extremely mediocre NFL franchise the last few decades.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 11:44:37 AM
This move tells me a few things (or things that IMO are at least likely).

1) Ryan Poles has had assurances from the higher ups that he is safe for at least a couple seasons.

2) Justin Fields’ chances of staying just improved. Fields is thought of more highly around the league than on HQ2 and Twitter.

3) Everyone thinks this means the Bears won’t get good OC candidates but I don’t think that’s true. As I said, Fields is more highly thought of around the league than he is by people on the Internet. Coaches are hired to be fired, they know this. They are nomads.

I think this job is plenty attractive enough because you have a defensive head coach and that makes the offense entirely yours. You’re about to get premium upgrades on offense, be they at QB or WR and probably on the OL. I don’t think you’ll have a problem finding good candidates, especially if you overpay a bit. Would be asinine if they didn’t overpay but it is the Bears so who knows.

Your floor for OC IMO would be Frank Reich, who would be a definite upgrade over Getsy.


Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 10, 2024, 11:48:37 AM
The Bears make the wrong move. Again. This fucking franchise man...

Kevin Warren looking like Ted Philips 2.0. What do you expect from the man who fucked over the U of I basketball program a few years ago? He's taken his 'talents' to the pros now.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 10, 2024, 12:42:58 PM

This franchise fucking sucks.

yea no shit
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2024, 01:28:35 PM
This move tells me a few things (or things that IMO are at least likely).

1) Ryan Poles has had assurances from the higher ups that he is safe for at least a couple seasons.

2) Justin Fields’ chances of staying just improved. Fields is thought of more highly around the league than on HQ2 and Twitter.

3) Everyone thinks this means the Bears won’t get good OC candidates but I don’t think that’s true. As I said, Fields is more highly thought of around the league than he is by people on the Internet. Coaches are hired to be fired, they know this. They are nomads.

I think this job is plenty attractive enough because you have a defensive head coach and that makes the offense entirely yours. You’re about to get premium upgrades on offense, be they at QB or WR and probably on the OL. I don’t think you’ll have a problem finding good candidates, especially if you overpay a bit. Would be asinine if they didn’t overpay but it is the Bears so who knows.

Your floor for OC IMO would be Frank Reich, who would be a definite upgrade over Getsy.

LOL. Lombardi said yesterday on his pod that the people he has spoken with around the league are telling him there is zero way the Bear do not pick a QB in the draft....
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2024, 01:29:44 PM
This move tells me a few things (or things that IMO are at least likely).

1) Ryan Poles has had assurances from the higher ups that he is safe for at least a couple seasons.

2) Justin Fields’ chances of staying just improved. Fields is thought of more highly around the league than on HQ2 and Twitter.

3) Everyone thinks this means the Bears won’t get good OC candidates but I don’t think that’s true. As I said, Fields is more highly thought of around the league than he is by people on the Internet. Coaches are hired to be fired, they know this. They are nomads.

I think this job is plenty attractive enough because you have a defensive head coach and that makes the offense entirely yours. You’re about to get premium upgrades on offense, be they at QB or WR and probably on the OL. I don’t think you’ll have a problem finding good candidates, especially if you overpay a bit. Would be asinine if they didn’t overpay but it is the Bears so who knows.

Your floor for OC IMO would be Frank Reich, who would be a definite upgrade over Getsy.

LOL.. No one any good is going to want to hitch their wagon to Eberlose for a year. This is fucking laughable on your part.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 01:42:52 PM
Michael Lombardi is about the worst analyst out there.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on January 10, 2024, 01:45:57 PM
He’s no Brad Biggs
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2024, 01:46:44 PM
Michael Lombardi is about the worst analyst out there.

LOL. I am thinking he actually speaks with people who are in the league, as opposed to relying on Brad Spielberger, Esq. and knowledgeable football expert Maher Abu Arja on The Twitter. That being said, I am sure there are plenty of people in the league who use him to filter misinformation out to the public. But he was right on MVP Mitch and Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 01:59:17 PM
He’s no Brad Biggs

Probably the least knowledgeable “Bears insider” around.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 02:05:42 PM
LOL. I am thinking he actually speaks with people who are in the league, as opposed to relying on Brad Spielberger, Esq. and knowledgeable football expert Maher Abu Arja on The Twitter. That being said, I am sure there are plenty of people in the league who use him to filter misinformation out to the public. But he was right on MVP Mitch and Fields.

I was also right on MVP Mitch (annd Nagy) and the Mack Trade. Am I as reliable as Lombardi?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on January 10, 2024, 02:14:50 PM
Probably the least knowledgeable “Bears insider” around.

Amazing how all the guys who agree with you are so credible and all the guys who don’t aren’t, huh?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2024, 02:23:51 PM
I was also right on MVP Mitch (annd Nagy) and the Mack Trade. Am I as reliable as Lombardi?

No. The COVID messed you up. Lots of bad takes since The COVID.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 04:01:49 PM
Amazing how all the guys who agree with you are so credible and all the guys who don’t aren’t, huh?

His take on the tank was idiotic. His take on the 1st pick (last year) was idiotic. And he got the Bears draft pick at #9 dead wrong (they didn’t WANT Jalen Carter!). Why should I value Brad Bigg’s opinions over anyone else?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 04:02:22 PM
No. The COVID messed you up. Lots of bad takes since The COVID.

I’ve never had Covid. That I know of.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 04:03:34 PM
Amazing how all the guys who agree with you are so credible and all the guys who don’t aren’t, huh?

I never once said that. Stop LYING. I just don’t know why Brad Biggs is more credible than anyone else when he’s been on the wrong side of most shit for a year and a half.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 04:04:27 PM
I have never once said that someone with a different opinion than mine is “not credible.” That is yours and PAMan’s schtick.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 04:06:12 PM
I can only say so many hundreds’ of times the opinion and case to move on from Fields are justifiable. Should I put it in my sig?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on January 10, 2024, 05:43:28 PM
I have never once said that someone with a different opinion than mine is “not credible.” That is yours and PAMan’s schtick.

I’ve certainly never said anything even close to that.  You’re the one who is consistently looking for some “credible” source to confirm your thoughts.

I haven’t done that once to my knowledge, except to make fun of you.  My thoughts are formed from watching the guy play, not repeating the opinion of some former NFL backup or TV analyst.

You absolutely do consistently attack the credibility of the people who disagree with you, and tout the credibility of those who do agree with you though.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 06:04:39 PM
I’ve certainly never said anything even close to that.  You’re the one who is consistently looking for some “credible” source to confirm your thoughts.


As if I would cite people who don’t agree with me in order to bolster my argument. JFC. To quote you, “you are really bad at this.”
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 06:06:24 PM
I’ve certainly never said anything even close to that.  You’re the one who is consistently looking for some “credible” source to confirm your thoughts.

I haven’t done that once to my knowledge, except to make fun of you.  My thoughts are formed from watching the guy play, not repeating the opinion of some former NFL backup or TV analyst.

You absolutely do consistently attack the credibility of the people who disagree with you, and tout the credibility of those who do agree with you though.

One of us has called the others’ opinions as “credible and justifiable.” The other referred to the opposing viewpoint as “insane.” You tell me which one of us is being more open-minded here.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 06:07:02 PM
Whose credibility have I attacked besides Brad Biggs thinking he knows for sure what the Bears will do at quarterback?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 10, 2024, 06:11:54 PM
One of us has called the others’ opinions as “credible and justifiable.” The other referred to the opposing viewpoint as “insane.” You tell me which one of us is being more open-minded here.

Maybe he is intolerant of normalizing insanity.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on January 10, 2024, 06:12:06 PM
One of us has called the others’ opinions as “credible and justifiable.” The other referred to the opposing viewpoint as “insane.” You tell me which one of us is being more open-minded here.

Yep - I think it’s crazy to hold onto Fields and pass on the top rookie QBs.  That’s my opinion I formed by watching Fields play 40 NFL games, and by his actual results on the field.  I am not worried about which media figures agree or disagree with me.  I just think it’s funny to watch you tout how credible anyone who agrees with you is, and shit on the credibility of anybody who doesn’t.  It’s super transparent, and it makes me laugh.

If you want me to say “it’s justifiable to keep him” I will say it for you, but I don’t believe that really.  I think, as I’ve said many times, it’s an obvious and easily foreseeable mistake - same with keeping Eberflus.

Like I guess I don’t know what you want from me here.  Do you want me to tell you the truth?  The truth is I think it’s crazy to keep Fields and absolute batshit to defend and make excuses for him to the degree you did this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 06:33:16 PM
Hey, that’s awesome. You have your opinion, and I said it’s a credible one and justifiable one. Now if you’d just let me have mine, that would be GREAT!
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: spark mandrill on January 10, 2024, 06:36:12 PM
Have I said you’re not allowed to have your opinion or something? I’ve argued against your opinion obviously, but that’s a very different thing.

I don’t know why you’d need my approval on your opinion so bad in the first place.  No offense I like you and everything, but I don’t really care whether you approve of my opinion about Justin Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 10, 2024, 08:50:47 PM
Damn that’s brutal 😂

https://x.com/hgrahamnfl/status/1745199131549700377?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 11:55:28 PM
What is so brutal about it? It’s kind of a dumb question. He should know that he’s not going to give an honest answer, even if he did talk to Harbaugh.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 11, 2024, 12:15:23 AM
That's an exceptionally dumb question lol
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2024, 07:30:25 AM
What is so brutal about it? It’s kind of a dumb question. He should know that he’s not going to give an honest answer, even if he did talk to Harbaugh.

But he is giving honest answers on Fields, the first round draft picks, etc.?
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2024, 10:11:10 AM
But he is giving honest answers on Fields, the first round draft picks, etc.?

He didn’t give ANY real answers. He did drop potential hints.
Title: Re: 2023 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 23, 2024, 09:50:36 AM
Bob Nightengale reporting today Arlington Heights one of 3 sites the Pale Hose interested in playing in a retractable domed stadium.

If the McCaskey were smart, they would team up with The Chairman. He knows how to get the politics done. The problem for them would be how much he would fleece them.

If The Chairman joins forces with the McCaskey, the Bear stadium gets done in Arlington Heights. If not, it does not, as he will suck all the state money for his stadium either at Soldier Field or next to the United Center.

Remember this when you read this:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/the-watchdogs/2024/02/22/jerry-reinsdorf-united-center-parking-lots-purchasing-white-sox-south-loop-ballpark

Why is Jerry Reinsdorf spending millions buying up parking lots around the United Center?

He is buying up more than parking lots in that area too...

Again, always trust Content from ThePAIdiot.