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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3450 on: September 11, 2023, 04:14:00 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 11, 2023, 04:11:02 PM
Speaking of Spark, where the fuck is he? Not that I give a shit, really. Just wondering if he got his feelings hurt or something.

Probably. “Tired of me misrepresenting his points” I guess.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3451 on: September 11, 2023, 04:14:47 PM »
A lot of really really good Fields discussion on The Score today. Too bad they are beneath you guys to listen to.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3452 on: September 11, 2023, 04:16:16 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 11, 2023, 04:09:50 PM
And also, I was talking the O-Line. Glad you are “keeping up.”

You didn't want Wright either.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3453 on: September 11, 2023, 04:17:11 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 11, 2023, 04:14:47 PM
A lot of really really good Fields discussion on The Score today. Too bad they are beneath you guys to listen to.

If it is them thinking that the trade for Moore means they trust Fields now, we are not missing anything because they are fucking morons.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3454 on: September 11, 2023, 04:35:29 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 04:16:16 PM
You didn't want Wright either.

I was “ok with it.”
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« Reply #3455 on: September 11, 2023, 04:36:24 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 04:17:11 PM
If it is them thinking that the trade for Moore means they trust Fields now, we are not missing anything because they are fucking morons.

Well, it’s a lot of stuff, and it’s multi-layered. Make sure you give me a Dan McNeil recap.
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« Reply #3456 on: September 11, 2023, 04:42:47 PM »
But for arguments sake, why would they make DJ Moore the centerpiece for the trade and not try to replace Fields if they didn’t trust him to get him the ball? But that’s a minor point. If they didn’t trust him, they should have gotten rid of him. Or at the very least gotten him some competition.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3457 on: September 11, 2023, 04:54:56 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 11, 2023, 04:36:24 PM
Well, it’s a lot of stuff, and it’s multi-layered. Make sure you give me a Dan McNeil recap.

Fair enough!
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3458 on: September 11, 2023, 05:05:53 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 11, 2023, 04:42:47 PM
But for arguments sake, why would they make DJ Moore the centerpiece for the trade and not try to replace Fields if they didn’t trust him to get him the ball? But that’s a minor point. If they didn’t trust him, they should have gotten rid of him. Or at the very least gotten him some competition.

I am not going to disagree. I will suggest you look at the timeline though. April they made the trade, right? OTAs were July. If they really really thought they could coach him up, and you sent us all the "he's working hard in the offseason" puff pieces, then why would they trade him? 

I have also suggested to you that maybe they did not like this year's QB draft class (hell, we all know you can find negative and positive assessments each year for each guy) and so they decided to hold onto him simply because they are looking at the rebuild extending past the conclusion of his current contract. (Granted, if they get the 1st pick this year too, they are picking Caleb Williams short of injury, whatever, etc.)

Now we get to July-August and they are seeing Fields has not advanced as they thought. Let's be honest: They had zero competition in camp for any of the projected starters. Now they have to game plan around his deficiencies.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3459 on: September 11, 2023, 05:24:51 PM »
There is next to no chance they get the 1st pick. They may well end up with two top 10s, that’s on the table. Virtually no chance they get the #1.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3460 on: September 11, 2023, 05:28:46 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 11, 2023, 05:05:53 PM
I am not going to disagree. I will suggest you look at the timeline though. April they made the trade, right? OTAs were July. If they really really thought they could coach him up, and you sent us all the "he's working hard in the offseason" puff pieces, then why would they trade him? 

I have also suggested to you that maybe they did not like this year's QB draft class (hell, we all know you can find negative and positive assessments each year for each guy) and so they decided to hold onto him simply because they are looking at the rebuild extending past the conclusion of his current contract. (Granted, if they get the 1st pick this year too, they are picking Caleb Williams short of injury, whatever, etc.)

Now we get to July-August and they are seeing Fields has not advanced as they thought. Let's be honest: They had zero competition in camp for any of the projected starters. Now they have to game plan around his deficiencies.

By all accounts, Flus and the coaching staff are under no real pressure to “win big” this year. Even Poles said the team is only “70% built.” They need to FIND OUT if Fields can play. Your line sucks, your defense is suspect. You need to SCORE POINTS. Let Fields play his game. If he fails or gets hurt, and you know for sure that you should keep him or move on. I’m not a big fan of the designed runs, but there was exactly one designed run yesterday. And again, he was by far the most productive runner.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3461 on: September 11, 2023, 05:30:26 PM »
I think Parkins is on to something when he says the Bears may be coaching the Justin Fields out of Justin Fields (ohhhhhhh, Danny Parkins!). And he says, that’s not to say that Fields didn’t have plenty to work on.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3462 on: September 11, 2023, 05:37:47 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 11, 2023, 05:24:51 PM
There is next to no chance they get the 1st pick. They may well end up with two top 10s, that’s on the table. Virtually no chance they get the #1.

I do not disagree, thus the use of "if."
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3463 on: September 11, 2023, 05:39:30 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 11, 2023, 05:30:26 PM
I think Parkins is on to something when he says the Bears may be coaching the Justin Fields out of Justin Fields (ohhhhhhh, Danny Parkins!). And he says, that’s not to say that Fields didn’t have plenty to work on.

I am guessing they are trying to coach him to be an NFL passing QB and are having problems doing so.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3464 on: September 11, 2023, 05:42:57 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on September 11, 2023, 05:28:46 PM
By all accounts, Flus and the coaching staff are under no real pressure to “win big” this year. Even Poles said the team is only “70% built.” They need to FIND OUT if Fields can play. Your line sucks, your defense is suspect. You need to SCORE POINTS. Let Fields play his game. If he fails or gets hurt, and you know for sure that you should keep him or move on. I’m not a big fan of the designed runs, but there was exactly one designed run yesterday. And again, he was by far the most productive runner.

Odds are they will change the offense in a few weeks if the issues we saw yesterday persist. This could be a rerun of last year with the change in the offense following the bye to let him just throw long and run amuck.
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