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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #180 on: September 24, 2022, 04:51:04 PM »
I found this part of the article to be very interesting…

“There’s a question of why Fields looked hesitant to make throws in Green Bay. Could it be the pressure he’s facing? The quarterback has the highest pressure percentage in the NFL at 56%. But he’s also had the longest average time before passing in the NFL at 3.26 seconds.

And it's not a question of the Bears' receivers getting open. The average separation on Fields’ targets is 3.93 yards, the fourth-highest rate in the NFL according to Next Gen Stats.

But Fields’ accuracy comes into question as his off-target percentage is just under 30%, which is the second-highest in the NFL.”

Here’s the whole article…

https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4711500/chicago-bears-passing-game-is-off-to-rocky-start-as-justin-fields-and-top-weapons-have-yet-to-click

I think it adds length to his drop backs when he’s being immediately pressured and has to scramble. The “seconds per drop back stat” should only include a clean pocket.

The numbers are what they are I guess, but I find it really difficult to believe the Bears’ receivers are 4th in the league in separation. Of course, they’ve barely thrown it as well. I’ll bet Pettis’ TD alone skews that number. He was all alone on that side of the field.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #181 on: September 24, 2022, 05:02:44 PM »
I’d be willing to bet Ohio State, LSU, and Alabama have had better receiving corps the last few years than the Bears do now.

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« Reply #182 on: September 24, 2022, 05:18:32 PM »
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« Reply #183 on: September 24, 2022, 06:32:26 PM »
You lost me.

The Packer receivers suck, yet it does not seem to matter when the QB is actually good.

I heard this point discussed by Lombardi on his podcast. Tough to assess WRs, as the QB is the one who makes or breaks them.
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« Reply #184 on: September 24, 2022, 07:48:25 PM »
The Packer receivers suck, yet it does not seem to matter when the QB is actually good.

I heard this point discussed by Lombardi on his podcast. Tough to assess WRs, as the QB is the one who makes or breaks them.

Rodgers has more years in the league than Fields has starts. Not sure the comparison is fair.
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« Reply #185 on: September 24, 2022, 07:50:27 PM »
Throwing guys open at the NFL level isn’t something that comes to most QBs early in their careers. If ever.
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« Reply #186 on: September 24, 2022, 08:12:21 PM »
Rodgers has more years in the league than Fields has starts. Not sure the comparison is fair.

The point is the quality of the WRs should not matter if you are a good QB.
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« Reply #187 on: September 25, 2022, 12:05:38 PM »
First snap under center, fumble. Probably why shotgun is mainly the option.
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« Reply #188 on: September 25, 2022, 12:10:13 PM »
Also Fields scrambling for a 1st down isn’t a recipe for sustained success. He’s had a clean pocket so far, throw the fucking ball!!

Hand-off draw on 3rd down. Dumb as fuck.
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« Reply #189 on: September 25, 2022, 12:10:41 PM »
Not impressed by Getsy’s play-calling. This drive was an over-correction of last week. Gotta give Justin a handoff play after the big run. I like that they were passing, but often passed on running downs and ran on passing downs IMO.
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« Reply #190 on: September 25, 2022, 12:11:45 PM »
The point is the quality of the WRs should not matter if you are a good QB.

Again, the list of truly difference making QBs in the NFL after 12 starts is an extremely short list.
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« Reply #191 on: September 25, 2022, 12:12:20 PM »
Oline is doing their job. Fields hold the ball too long. You can almost hear him thinking.
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« Reply #192 on: September 25, 2022, 12:13:50 PM »
Oline is doing their job. Fields hold the ball too long. You can almost hear him thinking.

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« Reply #193 on: September 25, 2022, 12:14:11 PM »
They have to establish the run, and throw off of that. But Fields has to make throws when they’re available.
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« Reply #194 on: September 25, 2022, 12:16:40 PM »
A good friend of mine put it well, I think. It feels like every start for Fields is his first start. He should be farther along by now.
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