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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1710 on: December 17, 2022, 01:55:13 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 16, 2022, 09:42:43 PM
I’ll confess that in my haste, I thought you were referring to something else. Having said that, the McCaskeys aren’t that much worse than most owners, especially the charter owners. They’re not as successful as the Rooneys, but have been overall much more successful than the Fords and Bidwells. The Hunt family also had a 4 1/2 decade stretch of mediocrity until they hired Andy Reid and he drafted Patrick Mahomes.

At one time the McCaskeys deserved a large share of the blame. But they’ve opened the purse strings and aren’t involved in day to operations anymore. There’s no reason to believe they are pulling any strings that matter. As long as they’ve hired the right GM and coach they will be fine.

Also, the run in the 80s, mid aughts, and 2018 was better than anything KC had experienced before Patrick Mahomes came along. So while most of it was bad, not all of it was bad. And when it was good, it was very very good.

Didn't the Chief go to the 2 of the first 4 Super Bowls? Hank Stram and all?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1711 on: December 17, 2022, 09:13:53 AM »
Tempo, someone told me that Hub is back and said on The Score yesterday that JFC was not even an average passer yet. Do you agree with Hub's assessment?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1712 on: December 17, 2022, 09:25:11 AM »
How could you not?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1713 on: December 17, 2022, 09:40:45 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 17, 2022, 09:13:53 AM
Tempo, someone told me that Hub is back and said on The Score yesterday that JFC was not even an average passer yet. Do you agree with Hub's assessment?

How did Parkins feel about it?

There's your answer.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1714 on: December 17, 2022, 12:32:16 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 17, 2022, 09:25:11 AM
How could you not?

Ever read Tempo's sig?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1715 on: December 18, 2022, 04:49:30 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 17, 2022, 01:55:13 AM
Didn't the Chief go to the 2 of the first 4 Super Bowls? Hank Stram and all?

Lol
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1716 on: December 18, 2022, 04:52:03 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 17, 2022, 09:13:53 AM
Tempo, someone told me that Hub is back and said on The Score yesterday that JFC was not even an average passer yet. Do you agree with Hub's assessment?

I wouldn’t know because they don’t pass the ball enough to find out. I know he was an excellent passer in college, and is getting better in the pros. I don’t think the pass protection and receivers are anywhere close to average, so I grade Fields on a curve. Hub is also a known curmudgeon. I give Fields an I for incomplete.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1717 on: December 18, 2022, 04:54:15 AM »
Quote from: Jobu on December 17, 2022, 09:40:45 AM
How did Parkins feel about it?

There's your answer.

Surrrree. Lazy and incorrect. But that’s standard for you.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1718 on: December 18, 2022, 05:00:59 AM »
My official stance on Fields as a passer (taking the rest of the offense out of the equation) is that he’s improving, but he’s not where I’d like him to be yet.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1719 on: December 18, 2022, 08:49:36 AM »
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1720 on: December 18, 2022, 08:50:12 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 18, 2022, 04:52:03 AM
I wouldn’t know because they don’t pass the ball enough to find out. I know he was an excellent passer in college, and is getting better in the pros. I don’t think the pass protection and receivers are anywhere close to average, so I grade Fields on a curve. Hub is also a known curmudgeon. I give Fields an I for incomplete.

I is for incomplete. An incomplete pass...
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1721 on: December 18, 2022, 08:53:15 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 18, 2022, 05:00:59 AM
My official stance on Fields as a passer (taking the rest of the offense out of the equation) is that he’s improving, but he’s not where I’d like him to be yet.

I went and listened to it and Hub was overall positive on Fields, thinking he could develop, but thought that people were getting their heads out over their skis. (Which caused me to chuckle.)
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1722 on: December 18, 2022, 08:55:26 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 18, 2022, 04:52:03 AM
I wouldn’t know because they don’t pass the ball enough to find out. I know he was an excellent passer in college, and is getting better in the pros. I don’t think the pass protection and receivers are anywhere close to average, so I grade Fields on a curve. Hub is also a known curmudgeon. I give Fields an I for incomplete.

This does sound close to Parkins' take.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1723 on: December 18, 2022, 08:57:15 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 18, 2022, 04:52:03 AM
I wouldn’t know because they don’t pass the ball enough to find out.

Hmmm, I wonder why?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1724 on: December 18, 2022, 09:20:58 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 18, 2022, 08:49:36 AM
Can't beat facts.

So you’re giving the Hunt family credit for what happened 55 years ago.

I guess that means Bears’ current ownership killed it with 9 overall championships and two SB teams including the greatest team ever assembled.
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