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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2085 on: January 01, 2023, 08:10:41 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 01, 2023, 08:08:20 PM
Then why did Pittsburgh trade him? Minus one blowup game he’s been an underachiever his entire career.

Why do any teams trade good players?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2086 on: January 01, 2023, 08:11:52 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 01, 2023, 08:08:20 PM
Then why did Pittsburgh trade him? Minus one blowup game he’s been an underachiever his entire career.

Probably because Pitt knew they could be getting the 30 something pick in the draft for him?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2087 on: January 01, 2023, 08:12:41 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 08:09:46 PM
Why give up on him so soon but keep holding hope for Fields? It’s only 1 more season of play.

Wouldn’t necessarily say I’ve given up on him, but I’m not expecting him to return value. He’s clearly got maturity issues. He’s scored 3 touchdowns in his last 24 games. Talented, but a knucklehead it seems.

Comparing a 3rd year WR to a 2nd year QB in a new system with no quality blockers is a hilarious comp. The coaches don’t even have enough confidence to put Claypool on the Field over last WR on the roster types. That should tell you something.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2088 on: January 01, 2023, 08:15:35 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 01, 2023, 08:12:41 PM
Wouldn’t necessarily say I’ve given up on him, but I’m not expecting him to return value. He’s clearly got maturity issues. He’s scored 3 touchdowns in his last 24 games. Talented, but a knucklehead it seems.

Comparing a 3rd year WR to a 2nd year QB in a new system with no quality blockers is a hilarious comp. The coaches don’t even have enough confidence to put Claypool on the Field over last WR on the roster types. That should tell you something.

It also tells you something when Eberlose tells reporters that Fields was in at the end of the game because they think he needs the "live experience..."
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2089 on: January 01, 2023, 08:16:31 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 08:10:41 PM
Why do any teams trade good players?

“Good” might be stretching it. Talented? Yes. They traded him because suckers exist.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2090 on: January 01, 2023, 08:17:35 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:15:35 PM
It also tells you something when Eberlose tells reporters that Fields was in at the end of the game because they think he needs the "live experience..."

I see both sides of this argument. I also think it’s unlikely 2-3 possessions is going to be the difference in Justin Fields’ development for next year. An ACL tear or off season shoulder surgery might be.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2091 on: January 01, 2023, 08:18:42 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 01, 2023, 08:17:35 PM
I see both sides of this argument. I also think it’s unlikely 2-3 possessions is going to be the difference in Justin Fields’ development for next year. An ACL tear or off season shoulder surgery might be.

True. I also doubt he would have been better off standing next to Getsy those last few plays.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2092 on: January 01, 2023, 08:19:56 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:11:52 PM
Probably because Pitt knew they could be getting the 30 something pick in the draft for him?

GMs get desperate and do dumb things sometimes. All of them do. No one’s track record is spotless. Hopefully it either works out nicely or this is Poles’ big screw up (likely with Velus Jones). Which begs the question: can Poles evaluate the receiver position?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2093 on: January 01, 2023, 08:20:02 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:15:35 PM
It also tells you something when Eberlose tells reporters that Fields was in at the end of the game because they think he needs the "live experience..."

And the coaches apparently don’t have enough confidence in Fields to throw the ball either.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2094 on: January 01, 2023, 08:21:31 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 01, 2023, 08:18:42 PM
True. I also doubt he would have been better off standing next to Getsy those last few plays.

Definitely less risk of him getting hurt. Ironic though, since you’re the guy who thought standing next to Getsy all year would be the most beneficial thing to his development.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2095 on: January 01, 2023, 08:22:56 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 08:20:02 PM
And the coaches apparently don’t have enough confidence in Fields to throw the ball either.

Or when a D HC has a crap defense despite having what looks to be a decent, but young, secondary.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2096 on: January 01, 2023, 08:24:18 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 01, 2023, 08:21:31 PM
Definitely less risk of him getting hurt. Ironic though, since you’re the guy who thought standing next to Getsy all year would be the most beneficial thing to his development.

Not much to be learned at the end of that one.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2097 on: January 01, 2023, 08:24:48 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 01, 2023, 08:20:02 PM
And the coaches apparently don’t have enough confidence in Fields to throw the ball either.

Minus starting every snap (even when hurt) and 20-28 throws a game. Chase played 4 snaps in the first half (not sure how many in 2nd). Velus and Wesco both played 5 and 4 snaps. You really barking up this tree? Strange tactical approach.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2098 on: January 01, 2023, 08:26:00 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 01, 2023, 08:24:48 PM
Minus starting every snap (even when hurt) and 20-28 throws a game. Chase played 4 snaps in the first half (not sure how many in 2nd). Velus and Wesco both played 5 and 4 snaps. You really barking up this tree? Strange tactical approach.

Pringle got hurt and went to the hospital
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #2099 on: January 01, 2023, 08:29:56 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 01, 2023, 08:24:48 PM
Minus starting every snap (even when hurt) and 20-28 throws a game. Chase played 4 snaps in the first half (not sure how many in 2nd). Velus and Wesco both played 5 and 4 snaps. You really barking up this tree? Strange tactical approach.

And he completed 7 of them. 7. For 3.6 yards each on average. So who’s the QB dinking and dunking now?
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