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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1515 on: December 03, 2022, 05:50:26 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 05:49:10 AM
Stroud sucks, like all OSU QBs. Mike Tomczak looking make the best of a bad bunch.

Again, you have missed the point about the blowing of a 14 point 4th quarter lead. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Even better. Because the Bears won’t be drafting him. They’ll probably trade him to Atlanta or Carolina for 3 1st round draft picks.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1516 on: December 03, 2022, 05:50:58 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2022, 05:49:22 AM
In fact, losing helped them because they got the easier schedule out of it.

Too bad they won any games at all. Sure has worked out well for the Lion.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1517 on: December 03, 2022, 05:52:32 AM »
There is literally zero evidence (and no logic) behind thinking the Bears holding onto a lead this year somehow helps them next year. Are you even listening to yourself? That line of thinking is pretty absurd.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1518 on: December 03, 2022, 05:54:48 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 05:50:58 AM
Too bad they won any games at all. Sure has worked out well for the Lion.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1519 on: December 03, 2022, 06:06:56 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2022, 05:52:32 AM
There is literally zero evidence (and no logic) behind thinking the Bears holding onto a lead this year somehow helps them next year. Are you even listening to yourself? That line of thinking is pretty absurd.

According to your and Parkins' "logic" the Lions should be the Brady Pats by now.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1520 on: December 03, 2022, 06:11:19 AM »
There no guarantees, ever. Especially when it comes to the worst run franchise in the NFL (and believe it or not, it’s not the Bears).

What I know pretty well for sure is that a “win” in a lost season (let’s say 4-13) doesn’t bring you success next year. Even more so when your personnel will be undergoing major changes. There is literally no evidence holding on to win against Detroit catapults them to more success next year, so stop with the nonsense.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1521 on: December 03, 2022, 06:13:39 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 03, 2022, 06:06:56 AM
According to your and Parkins' "logic" the Lions should be the Brady Pats by now.
Are you one of those people who think the Lions aren't good because of the Fords ?
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« Reply #1522 on: December 03, 2022, 06:27:22 AM »
Quote from: Mn on December 03, 2022, 06:13:39 AM
Are you one of those people who think the Lions aren't good because of the Fords ?

It’s part of it. I also know the Bears have in no small way struggled because of the McCaskeys. But they are not “doomed” to failure because of the McCaskeys. Yes, neither organization has historically been well run. But the Bears have shown that they’re willing to let the football people run the organization (for the most part). Let’s just hope they hired a good person to run it this time. I’m not going to judge Poles heavily one way or the other until I see further results.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1523 on: December 03, 2022, 06:28:55 AM »
Quote from: Mn on December 03, 2022, 06:13:39 AM
Are you one of those people who think the Lions aren't good because of the Fords ?

Mostly I think the Lions are bad because the people they’ve picked to run their franchise were bad. Hello, Matt Millen…
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1524 on: December 03, 2022, 06:40:07 AM »
Do I think the McCaskeys are a “net positive” or even neutral? No, of course not. Does that mean I sit around with my mouthful of deep dish pizza yelling “OMG the Bears will never be good because McCaskeys!!” No.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1525 on: December 03, 2022, 08:16:05 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2022, 06:27:22 AM
It’s part of it. I also know the Bears have in no small way struggled because of the McCaskeys. But they are not “doomed” to failure because of the McCaskeys. Yes, neither organization has historically been well run. But the Bears have shown that they’re willing to let the football people run the organization (for the most part). Let’s just hope they hired a good person to run it this time. I’m not going to judge Poles heavily one way or the other until I see further results.
How does "You like the ownership ?" get to  “doomed” to failure ?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1526 on: December 03, 2022, 08:42:35 AM »
Quote from: Mn on December 03, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
How does "You like the ownership ?" get to  “doomed” to failure ?

What’s your point then? Virtually no one “likes” ownership.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1527 on: December 03, 2022, 08:44:22 AM »
Are the McCaskeys a net negative? Yes. Are they doomed to failure due to ownership? No.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1528 on: December 03, 2022, 09:06:53 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2022, 08:44:22 AM
Are the McCaskeys a net negative? Yes. Are they doomed to failure due to ownership? No.

What’s the common denominator in being mostly awful the last 60 or so years?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1529 on: December 03, 2022, 09:16:12 AM »
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What’s the common denominator in being mostly awful the last 60 or so years?

This argument somewhat resembles the claim that the “Democratic Party is the party of the KKK.” In some ways that’s true. In current context, it’s not.
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