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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on January 10, 2024, 12:09:07 PM
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Time for a new thread!
Doubt this happens, but not the craziest prediction I’ve ever seen.
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Welcome back, Flus!
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Interesting:
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Another year of the same arguments, the same excuses, the same mediocrity.
Bears Football, 2024.
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Welcome back, Flus!
Another year of loser HITS culture and blowing 4th quarter leads.
Pop open the fucking champagne.
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LOL!
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Interesting:
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So one of my coworkers is best friends with Herm Edwards (strange I know), and he said that Daniels didn't stay at A$U because the braindead president there didn't want to start paying athletes with NIL money so he transferred 😂
Anyway, Herm says he's an insane talent and should go #1
But what does a fired coach know anyway lol
I'm still on the get Bo Nix later in the 1st/2nd if possible route
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Another year of the same arguments, the same excuses, the same mediocrity.
Bears Football, 2024.
May have to make a sub forum I hate the football board as-is
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I think Justin is coming back.
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Bears have reached out to Seattle to interview Shane Waldron. Could obviously go either way, but I think that is a tell that Justin is in the mix
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Bears have reached out to Seattle to interview Shane Waldron. Could obviously go either way, but I think that is a tell that Justin is in the mix
Because Geno Smith is similar QB to Jurtin Fields?
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Because Geno Smith is similar QB to Jurtin Fields?
Multiple reasons, and I do not see that being a primary one. He’s an experienced, successful coordinator. Works in a very similar system with a lot of common verbiage. Worked under Belichick, Shanahan, McVay, Carroll. Highly qualified candidate.
Still young, potential HC material.
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Multiple reasons, and I do not see that being a primary one. He’s an experienced, successful coordinator. Works in a very similar system with a lot of common verbiage. Worked under Belichick, Shanahan, McVay, Carroll. Highly qualified candidate.
Still young, potential HC material.
Why would you come to Chicago then?
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Your 2024 Bears in a nutshell! 😂 🤣
https://x.com/cutlertoforte/status/1746632083861115108?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Dez Bryant (who has played under him) says hell no! 😂 I agree it would be a fucking terrible hire. For Williams or Fields…
https://x.com/dezbryant/status/1747092093258830270?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Yeah, I would hate that hire.
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And I supposed to be excited about this hire? He has the same ranking on offense as the Bears with what Tempo of course would call better players…
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1749455264141762935?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Pretty uninspiring hire
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Maybe I’m crazy but …
A dude with multiple years previous Playcalling experience who was not fired from his previous job and has a history of making quarterbacks look good … what’s not to like about the hire? He was a head coaching candidate like 3-4 weeks ago. I think it’s a far better hire than was reasonable to expect.
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Wihtout taking a risk on a less proven guy, he’s about as good of a hire as they could have made.
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Maybe I’m crazy but …
A dude with multiple years previous Playcalling experience who was not fired from his previous job and has a history of making quarterbacks look good … what’s not to like about the hire? He was a head coaching candidate like 3-4 weeks ago. I think it’s a far better hire than was reasonable to expect.
Which just goes to show “job security” isn’t priority #1 for these guys. There are only so many of these positions and the chance to run your side of the ball completely is attractive to them. Virtually to a man they think they are the one to make the next team to hire them successful.
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And I supposed to be excited about this hire? He has the same ranking on offense as the Bears with what Tempo of course would call better players…
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1749455264141762935?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Here it is Tempo, just in case you missed it…
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What other jobs was he up for?
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3rd among non Head Coaches:
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This list really makes me further lament the failure to even consider Mike McDaniel
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Here it is Tempo, just in case you missed it…
No comment?
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See my link. Bears ranked better…
And Waldron had better players to work with…
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3rd among non Head Coaches:
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That list looks a bit screwed up, but whatever.
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3rd among non Head Coaches:
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Would love to see what metric they used here.
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Anyway, I like the hire. Will obviously like it more if they move on from Fields.
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No comment?
On the averages? The Seahawks were pretty decent at throwing the ball. They were 27th in rushing. I’m not sure if that was coaching, line play, or RB talent or injury. The Bears were 2nd in rushing? In no small part thanks to Justin Fields.
The Bears kept Chris Morgan as OLine coach, my guess is they are confident they can continue to run the ball. They are looking for someone who will be able to advance the passing game.
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On the averages? The Seahawks were pretty decent at throwing the ball. They were 27th in rushing. I’m not sure if that was coaching, line play, or RB talent or injury. The Bears were 2nd in rushing? In no small part thanks to Justin Fields.
The Bears kept Chris Morgan as OLine coach, my guess is they are confident they can continue to run the ball. They are looking for someone who will be able to advance the passing game.
Need a QB that’s throws the ball to do that. And the ranks were low with substantially better talent according to you. Why not better results then?
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This will be yet another potentially interesting offseason, that will most likely end up largely underwhelming and disappointing. Yet we will have one guy here blowing smoke up our asses, and predicting the playoffs next offseason, yet telling us that our expectations are way too high.
Rinse and fucking repeat.
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Need a QB that’s throws the ball to do that. And the ranks were low with substantially better talent according to you. Why not better results then?
Maybe the ceiling was only so high with a 33 year old former washout like Geno Smith? The passing numbers were about league average. Despite a poor running game.
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Just heard PAMan’s guy @PFFBrad say that the Seahawks turned 1st down into new 1st downs at the 2nd highest rate in the league.
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Bears hire Kerry Joseph as QB coach. Was assistant QB coach in Seattle. Weirdly, was CFL star (player of year in 2007) at QB, and played Safety in the NFL. Apparently he was a good running quarterback lol. Not too enthused about the hire. Sounds like a money saving move. Only positive I can really find is that he has coached under Waldron, so obviously he’s quite familiar.
Sanjay Lal out of running as WR coach, which is too bad. Read good things about him. Sounds like he may be looking for bigger opportunity elsewhere or Bears wouldn’t pony up.
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Bears hire Kerry Joseph as QB coach. Was assistant QB coach in Seattle. Weirdly, was CFL star (player of year in 2007) at QB, and played Safety in the NFL. Apparently he was a good running quarterback lol. Not too enthused about the hire. Sounds like a money saving move. Only positive I can really find is that he has coached under Waldron, so obviously he’s quite familiar.
Sanjay Lal out of running as WR coach, which is too bad. Read good things about him. Sounds like he may be looking for bigger opportunity elsewhere or Bears wouldn’t pony up.
What a shocking turn of events....
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Who was your choice?
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Who was your choice?
For QB coach? Or for coach?
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It doesn't matter as this will all be blown up next year, probably.
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It doesn't matter as this will all be blown up next year, probably.
If you keep Fields, it’s bound to be. I just don’t think he has what it takes to be a QB in this league. He can’t pass the ball. If they keep him, I really hope that changes, but no evidence shown yet that it will.
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If you keep Fields, it’s bound to be. I just don’t think he has what it takes to be a QB in this league. He can’t pass the ball. If they keep him, I really hope that changes, but no evidence shown yet that it will.
Lol
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Lol
We are all laughing because we cannot cry
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https://firstroundmock.com/2024/01/former-nfl-scout-caleb-williams-is-a-bust/
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https://firstroundmock.com/2024/01/former-nfl-scout-caleb-williams-is-a-bust/
Some times one needs to throw the dice..
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever" Napoleon Bonaparte.
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Colin Cowherd, who is apparently very connected to the situation says that “Caleb Williams does not want to come to Chicago.”
https://x.com/christannehill/status/1753192770863280182?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Colin Cowherd, who is apparently very connected to the situation says that “Caleb Williams does not want to come to Chicago.”
https://x.com/christannehill/status/1753192770863280182?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
LOL SMH
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Bye bye, Poles. I don’t think he’s dumb enough to pass, but we’ll see…
https://x.com/670thescore/status/1753175338291490832?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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When has Colin Cowherd ever been right? That being said, who in their right mind would want to play for Eberlose for a half or a full season and then start over with a new coach and system?
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When has Colin Cowherd ever been right? That being said, who in their right mind would want to play for Eberlose for a half or a full season and then start over with a new coach and system?
Justin Fields?! 😂
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No quarterback wants to come to Chicago.
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Bye bye, Poles. I don’t think he’s dumb enough to pass, but we’ll see…
https://x.com/670thescore/status/1753175338291490832?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
We should stop scouting and just take everyone’s teammates’ word for it.
“Passing on DeSean Watson is like passing on Michael Jordan.” - Dabo Swinney
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Bye bye, Poles. I don’t think he’s dumb enough to pass, but we’ll see…
https://x.com/670thescore/status/1753175338291490832?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
If what Cowherd said is true (and apparently he’s quite connected to the USC program so no reason to think it’s not) why would Poles take Williams?
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We should stop scouting and just take everyone’s teammates’ word for it.
“Passing on DeSean Watson is like passing on Michael Jordan.” - Dabo Swinney
You sure agreed when DJ Moore supported Fields. Or anybody does for that matter. Lol
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There’s word out there that Tyler Scott has publicly said he doesn’t like Fields. So what?! I think Poles will make the right decision and draft Williams.
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You sure agreed when DJ Moore supported Fields. Or anybody does for that matter. Lol
DJ Moore is playing at a high level at the highest possible level you can play. It’s not quite the same.
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There’s word out there that Tyler Scott has publicly said he doesn’t like Fields. So what?! I think Poles will make the right decision and draft Williams.
So you’re just going to ignore a credible report that Williams and his camp don’t want to come here?
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There’s word out there that Tyler Scott has publicly said he doesn’t like Fields. So what?! I think Poles will make the right decision and draft Williams.
“Word out there that he’s said it publicly?” Ok, where is it then? And why should an unproductive rookie’s opinion hold much weight?
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Kingsbury being reported as likely to be the Raiders OC. That opens the door for a pretty big haul for the #1 pick but MHJ, Bowers, Nabers, and Odunze all out the window with that trade. I think the Raiders are 13? Would be awesome to have Max Crosby though.
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I guess one of those players is still possible at 9. Odunze would be a very nice consolation prize.
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Former Bears WR coach Tyke Tolbert hired by Titans. Just goes to show you don’t have to be that accomplished to stay in the league (looking at you Luke Getsy “getting interviews”).
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“Word out there that he’s said it publicly?” Ok, where is it then? And why should an unproductive rookie’s opinion hold much weight?
I was in a rush earlier and was going to link the tweet and now can’t find the damn thing. My apologies. I knew you’d ask and I’m pissed now I can’t find it.
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So you’re just going to ignore a credible report that Williams and his camp don’t want to come here?
Credible report?!?!
!!!!!!LOL
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DJ Moore is playing at a high level at the highest possible level you can play. It’s not quite the same.
SMH
Of course it’s “different” and “credible” when said person agrees with you. Spark has been trying to nail this in your head for a long time, yet you still don’t get it or see it. Your head remains buried in the sand…
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DJ Moore is playing at a high level at the highest possible level you can play. It’s not quite the same.
LOL. Spark would waste 3 hours shredding you on this one.
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So you’re just going to ignore a credible report that Williams and his camp don’t want to come here?
Colin Cowherd is credible?
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LOL. Spark would waste 3 hours shredding you on this one.
Exactly. I’ve learned to make it short and sweet and not do the back and forth too much with him. It’s a waste of time. It’s fun in moderation.
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Colin Cowherd is credible?
When he says something Tempo the Trans agrees with.
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Credible report?!?!
!!!!!!LOL
Yes. This isn’t Cowherd spinning theories. He’s got connections to the program. He was almost certainly given the “go ahead” to put this out there.
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Colin Cowherd is credible?
Considering his connections to the program, and the certainty with which he made those statements, yes.
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This isn’t him offering an opinion on the play of Justin Fields, he’s relaying what he’s been told. And again, this is a guy who’s said to be a “booster” of the USC program.
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http://www.insidesocal.com/usc/2015/08/13/colin-cowherd-usc-fan/
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He’s had Lincoln Riley and Caleb Williams on the show. He’s been on their sidelines and said to be a booster.
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If this were Cowherd giving an opinion on Fields, or just randomly spitballing; no, I wouldn’t find him that credible. But that’s not what’s going on here.
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Tempo is absolutely creaming himself right now
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SMH
Of course it’s “different” and “credible” when said person agrees with you. Spark has been trying to nail this in your head for a long time, yet you still don’t get it or see it. Your head remains buried in the sand…
If you want an expert opinion on science, business, or anything of the sort, are you going to a guy with a PhD or a college kid with a 3.0?
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Tempo is absolutely creaming himself right now
Gives them a better chance to “fix the real problems” with the Bears roster (your words!).
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If you want an expert opinion on science, business, or anything of the sort, are you going to a guy with a PhD or a college kid with a 3.0?
Oh look, from the source himself! Must mean something! But, but Cowherd said…!!!
https://x.com/goathousenfl/status/1753430077352579325s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
There’s no doubt a lot of trolling going on everywhere. I wouldn’t read too much into any of it. It’s purposefully gonna be happening right now. Unless it comes from the Bears or Caleb’s mouth, I wouldn’t believe any of it honestly…
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Gives them a better chance to “fix the real problems” with the Bears roster (your words!).
I don’t disagree but you were definitely gushing
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http://www.insidesocal.com/usc/2015/08/13/colin-cowherd-usc-fan/
LOL. That makes him a USC insider?
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Tempo is absolutely creaming himself right now
Spark would be having a "Field(s) Day" with this.
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Oh look, from the source himself! Must mean something! But, but Cowherd said…!!!
https://x.com/goathousenfl/status/1753430077352579325s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
There’s no doubt a lot of trolling going on everywhere. I wouldn’t read too much into any of it. It’s purposefully gonna be happening right now. Unless it comes from the Bears or Caleb’s mouth, I wouldn’t believe any of it honestly…
Hahahahahahahaha
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LOL. That makes him a USC insider?
He’s been on their sidelines and is apparently a booster. And is as high profile as anyone in his field, so yeah, probably.
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I haven’t heard anything about Jim Rome attending practices or being a booster.
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Hahahahahahahaha
I know! Only Cowherd is credible! Caleb Williams is not! We get it Tempo! Only stuff you approve is credible!
Hahahahahahaha
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He’s been on their sidelines and is apparently a booster. And is as high profile as anyone in his field, so yeah, probably.
Odd that this is the first time hearing of this. It obviously could be true. Would not blame the kid for not wanting to play for shitheads like Eberlose and Poles.
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I haven’t heard anything about Jim Rome attending practices or being a booster.
He's too busy hanging out with Al Michaels and eating late night LA fast food.
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I don’t disagree but you were definitely gushing
Oh, I am loving the idea that the Caleb Cult who keep saying Caleb as a Bear is a done deal may have to eat their words. And if he rejects them, even funnier/more enjoyable.
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If we don’t hear anything from the Williams camp today about this, you can take it to the bank it’s true. I am a million percent sure they know about this.
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Oh, I am loving the idea that the Caleb Cult who keep saying Caleb as a Bear is a done deal may have to eat their words. And if he rejects them, even funnier/more enjoyable.
LOL. If he rejects them, isn't that an indictment of Eberlose, Poles, Warren, and the McCaskeys?
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If we don’t hear anything from the Williams camp today about this, you can take it to the bank it’s true. I am a million percent sure they know about this.
LOL. Or, they don't fucking care like, most people since the draft is 4 months away.
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EP for The Score Shane Riordan has Caleb’s dad’s number and they have been in contact for a while. Shane says Caleb’s dad has gone radio silent since he messaged him on this.
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LOL. Or, they don't fucking care like, most people since the draft is 4 months away.
If it’s untrue, they should care.
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Honestly I’ll stand by whatever Poles decides to do as a Bears fan. I just think if I was the one making the decision it’d easily be Williams as the choice. Picking up Fields’ 5th-year option is a mistake and keeping him is too in my opinion. Easily avoided by selecting Williams at #1.
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Oh, I am loving the idea that the Caleb Cult who keep saying Caleb as a Bear is a done deal may have to eat their words. And if he rejects them, even funnier/more enjoyable.
Like I told you yesterday, it would be very Bear for the Bear to prefer drafting Maye as their QB. Just like when they drafted Trubisky.
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LOL. If he rejects them, isn't that an indictment of Eberlose, Poles, Warren, and the McCaskeys?
From a whiny entitled diva college QB? Who cares?
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EP for The Score Shane Riordan has Caleb’s dad’s number and they have been in contact for a while. Shane says Caleb’s dad has gone radio silent since he messaged him on this.
LOL.
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If it’s untrue, they should care.
So they need to respond to all the crazy people and theories out there for the next 4 months?! Lol. I’m sure Poles and Williams camp has been in constant contact. Who cares what else “is out there.”
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Like I told you yesterday, it would be very Bear for the Bear to prefer drafting Maye as their QB. Just like when they drafted Trubisky.
I could see the Bears moving on for Caleb. I don’t think they’d do it for Maye. It’s Caleb or Justin almost for sure IMO. Don’t even bother responding, because I know what you’re going to say and I refuse to go down that road.
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From a whiny entitled diva college QB? Who cares?
Obviously you do, or else you would not be fixated on how to save Fields in this manner. Especially since Fields is the whiniest QB bitch out there.
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I could see the Bears moving on for Caleb. I don’t think they’d do it for Maye. It’s Caleb or Justin almost for sure IMO. Don’t even bother responding, because I know what you’re going to say and I refuse to go down that road.
Fields sucks. Would serve Poles and Eberlose right to stick with him. They will be gone after next season.
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From a whiny entitled diva college QB? Who cares?
Yeah this isn’t narrative driven hyperbole…🙄
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So they need to respond to all the crazy people and theories out there for the next 4 months?! Lol. I’m sure Poles and Williams camp has been in constant contact. Who cares what else “is out there.”
All of them? No. Colin Cowherd, friend of the USC program with the loudest megaphone out there? Yeah, probably.
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Honestly I’ll stand by whatever Poles decides to do as a Bears fan. I just think if I was the one making the decision it’d easily be Williams as the choice. Picking up Fields’ 5th-year option is a mistake and keeping him is too in my opinion. Easily avoided by selecting Williams at #1.
Poles has proven he sucks ass.
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Poles has proven he sucks ass.
I’m holding out hope he’ll do the right thing…
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All of them? No. Colin Cowherd, friend of the USC program with the loudest megaphone out there? Yeah, probably.
Caleb himself said he’d be honored to be drafted first overall by the Bears. You just ignoring that?!
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All of them? No. Colin Cowherd, friend of the USC program with the loudest megaphone out there? Yeah, probably.
You realize that only around 200,000 people in the US even watch Cowherd on a daily basis?
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You realize that only around 200,000 people in the US even watch Cowherd on a daily basis?
Just let him enjoy his moment… 😂
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Caleb himself said he’d be honored to be drafted first overall by the Bears. You just ignoring that?!
200,000 people in the US watch Colin Cowherd though. He has a megaphone, apparently.
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Caleb himself said he’d be honored to be drafted first overall by the Bears. You just ignoring that?!
That was the day he declared. Yes. I’m basically ignoring it unless he or someone in his camp goes on record as saying this report is false.
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There’s probably 3-4 names in sports media who rival Colin Cowherd’s scope at the moment. He’s as big as anyone.
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That was the day he declared. Yes. I’m basically ignoring it unless he or someone in his camp goes on record as saying this report is false.
When you have lost Tempo, you have lost Staley, the Bear mascot.
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Pretty high on the list.
https://strawpoll.com/most-popular-sports-talk-show-host
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There’s probably 3-4 names in sports media who rival Colin Cowherd’s scope at the moment. He’s as big as anyone.
The problem is you are forcing yourself to believe this shit.
Colin Cowherd's wife does not give a fuck what he thinks.
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The problem is you are forcing yourself to believe this shit.
Colin Cowherd's wife does not give a fuck what he thinks.
Again, he’s not sharing “what he thinks.” He’s sharing what he’s been told. As a lawyer you should know the difference.
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That was the day he declared. Yes. I’m basically ignoring it unless he or someone in his camp goes on record as saying this report is false.
Of course you are LOL
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Again, he’s not sharing “what he thinks.” He’s sharing what he’s been told. As a lawyer you should know the difference.
LOL. Guess what? She does not care about that either. And you are presuming he has been told anything.
Hey, he's done a great job making himself relevant to the Fields Cult!
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Anyways, I’m laying in a hospital bed at Barnes Jewish in St. Louis currently, awaiting rhinoplasty surgery for a deviated septum. Surgery in 15 minutes…
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Again, a quiet day from the Williams PR team will be very telling.
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Anyways, I’m laying in a hospital bed at Barnes Jewish in St. Louis currently, awaiting rhinoplasty surgery for a deviated septum. Surgery in 15 minutes…
Good luck. Get well.
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Good luck. Get well.
Thanks.
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So apparently Cowherd said the CW camp called him last night and said “they are not anti-Chicago.” Lol wow
Bad look for Cowherd, but I’m not dismissing this completely. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. But I’ll take an “L” for today if it makes you guys happy. I can’t imagine Cowherd just made this up, though. But who knows.
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Anyways, I’m laying in a hospital bed at Barnes Jewish in St. Louis currently, awaiting rhinoplasty surgery for a deviated septum. Surgery in 15 minutes…
Hopefully your doctor is not Justin Fields. Good luck.
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So apparently Cowherd said the CW camp called him last night and said “they are not anti-Chicago.” Lol wow
Bad look for Cowherd, but I’m not dismissing this completely. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. But I’ll take an “L” for today if it makes you guys happy. I can’t imagine Cowherd just made this up, though. But who knows.
He made himself popular on The Twitter for a day, I am sure. Mission Accomplished.
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So apparently Cowherd said the CW camp called him last night and said “they are not anti-Chicago.” Lol wow
Bad look for Cowherd, but I’m not dismissing this completely. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. But I’ll take an “L” for today if it makes you guys happy. I can’t imagine Cowherd just made this up, though. But who knows.
So they did shoot it down like you wanted, YET YOU STILL believe it!! 😂 you can’t make this shit up!
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Hopefully your doctor is not Justin Fields. Good luck.
Caleb Williams… 😎
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So they did shoot it down like you wanted, YET YOU STILL believe it!! 😂 you can’t make this shit up!
Smoke/fire
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They shot it down to him, still nothing publicly that I am aware of, and I would think they’d be smart enough to do it on their own as well
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Thoughts and prayers, JJ! Lay off the nose candy!
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Thoughts and prayers, JJ! Lay off the nose candy!
Thanks. I don’t take that as virtue signaling. There’s power in prayer.
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For the record, Cowherd didn’t really retract his statement. He mentioned on how the CW camp “doesn’t want to be painted as anti-Bear or anti-Chicago.” That’s not exactly a retraction.
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Cowherd did stick the premise that “there are concerns” in Chicago.
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Thanks. I don’t take that as virtue signaling. There’s power in prayer.
I am praying, to whom I don't know yet, that Fields isn't the Bear QB next year.
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Thoughts and prayers, JJ! Lay off the nose candy!
Good one. I've called for a ceasefire in the area near the hospital.
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Smoke/fire
Does not seem to bother you that there is an inferno of Fields suckitude.
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all 3 of these guys think the bears are taking Williams with the #1
https://www.nfl.com/news/eric-edholm-2024-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-chargers-grab-te-brock-bowers-at-no-5-qb-j-j-mccarthy-to-rams
I guess due to the fact they won't be playing around with trade scenarios, or something.
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all 3 of these guys think the bears are taking Williams with the #1
https://www.nfl.com/news/eric-edholm-2024-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-chargers-grab-te-brock-bowers-at-no-5-qb-j-j-mccarthy-to-rams
I guess due to the fact they won't be playing around with trade scenarios, or something.
Sorry, he's not Cowherd, Briggs, or Aikman.
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Despite Cowherd backtracking some this story isn’t going to fully go away any time soon. There’s are least some grain of truth to this for sure. It may not be to the level that “Caleb doesn’t want to go to Chicago,” but there is obviously some concern on their end, and let’s be honest Chicago has earned that scrutiny when it comes to quarterbacks.
Cowherd went on with Parkins and Spiegel today to talk about it. I’ve only heard the first minute or so and Cowherd said at least 5 teams have called the Bears today to talk trade. I will listen to the rest of it soon and share what I heard.
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Actually, Cowherd said 5 teams had called USC (not the Bears) to perform background checks on CW. Says there will be a lot of teams looking to move up to 1.
While his interview was entertaining, I didn’t recall any real breaking of news minus what I’ve already said.
I’m not sure this leak was accidental. He did say that the CW camp sees a path to success in Chicago (similar to Houston’s). Perhaps a little spooked by Chicago’s history with quarterbacks and listening to people like Cam Newton (who say Chicago has done JF dirty). They want assurances there will be a great plan in place.
Cowherd also made a good point about stability. If Eberflus has a bad September, Caleb will almost certainly be looking at a new regime year 2. Not what they want obviously. In Washington he at least knows Dan Quinn will be there 3-4 years.
Not everything, but that was the gist of it.
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Another tidbit was that Caleb wants a big stage with a rabid fanbase. Chicago definitely fits that description.
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Kliff Kingsbury backs out of Raiders job and is now a leading candidate in Washington. If he’s hired there, expect Washington to go all out to get the #1 pick from the Bears. Dream scenario!
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No wonder they suck… 🫣
https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1755278744854340045?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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No wonder they suck… 🫣
https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1755278744854340045?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I thought no means no.
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No wonder they suck… 🫣
https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1755278744854340045?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Sexism is a great look in 2024. It works for you.
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Is she why the Illini mostly suck too?
(https://i.postimg.cc/KjHT7nnq/IMG-6505.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Sexism is a great look in 2024. It works for you.
It was a joke and play on the board’s views on women and football, you dumbass. It obviously went right over your head…
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It was a joke and play on the board’s views on women and football, you dumbass. It obviously went right over your head…
Not sure I’d seen you make that type of joke before, so it comes as a surprise if you were joking.
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Looks like former players aren’t a fan of Waldron. We’re supposed to take their word, right??
https://x.com/brendansugrue/status/1755301083532906752?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Is she why the Illini mostly suck too?
(https://i.postimg.cc/KjHT7nnq/IMG-6505.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Uh, you sure this is a point in her favor? Not like the Illini have been cleaning up in state.
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Looks like former players aren’t a fan of Waldron. We’re supposed to take their word, right??
https://x.com/brendansugrue/status/1755301083532906752?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
A 1st round rookie WR behind two established stars who felt he wasn’t featured enough; and played for a team with offensive line injuries that had to compensate by running 2 TE packages more often. I wouldn’t put a ton of stock into that, no. Waldron has a good reputation league wide.
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That’s actually the first time I’ve heard it (even though I had heard about it). He doesn’t actually say anything bad about Waldron, even saying he was “lucky to have him.” Regardless, I wouldn’t put a lot of stock in the comments of a rookie who I’m sure felt he had a disappointing rookie year.
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I knew there’d be some excuse or exception for this one…
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I knew there’d be some excuse or exception for this one…
…
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Only legit if it concerns something positive for Justin Fields…
Kinda like he had a previous 1,000 yard receiver that is somehow that receivers fault for not catching more passes that weren’t thrown his way, huh?! Any other QB you’d be blaming. Not Justin Fields though!
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Well if you actually listen to the words he says he says he was “lucky” to have Waldron and “learned a lot from him.”
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DJ Moore caught 71% of the balls thrown his way. Cole Kmet caught 81%. Darnell Mooney caught 51%. I can’t say whose fault that is entirely (and I’m sure it’s no one’s fault “entirely” but that is a pretty interesting stat).
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You do realize MHJ could be a bust just as much or like Caleb Williams, right?! Right?! Or any player for that matter…
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Duh?
I’d say MHJ is probably the “safest” pick in the draft though.
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Duh?
I’d say MHJ is probably the “safest” pick in the draft though.
Well earlier you kept referring to the risk in taking Williams and he was a bust. Not sure why that is relevant because that’s the case with all picks. Including Fields and we have a 3-year sample size on him already. That’s the damning thing.
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Again, give me MHJ a few high picks and maybe a Terry McLaurin, Jonathon Allen, or Daron Payne I’d feel pretty good about that.
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Again, give me MHJ a few high picks and maybe a Terry McLaurin, Jonathon Allen, or Daron Payne I’d feel pretty good about that.
Fair enough. I just think you’re gonna look back on Williams in a few years and say what the fuck were we/or I thinking. Especially when he lights the NFL on fire.
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Looks like former players aren’t a fan of Waldron. We’re supposed to take their word, right??
https://x.com/brendansugrue/status/1755301083532906752?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Did you watch the entire interview? The part where he says “It’s not his (Fields’) fault. Let’s get him some help and sling it around.”
Or does the awkward pause where he didn’t actually say anything negative about the OC only count?
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Hester in the HOF. It's about fucking time!
https://twitter.com/ProFootballHOF/status/1755794134395166764
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🙌
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Mongo in too! Love it!
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I can officially say I have met a hall of famer!
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I can officially say I have met a hall of famer!
Walter Payton
Jim Thome
Ryne Sandberg
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Walter Payton
Jim Thome
Ryne Sandberg
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/T13A3TiZ5RgAAAAd/bla-bla-blond.gif)
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Yeah, I'm kind've a big deal
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I can officially say I have met a hall of famer!
He (Hester) came in and ate at one of the restaurants I managed. Very quiet and unassuming.
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Bears officially release Eddie Jackson and Cody Whitehair.
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When are they releasing Fields?
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When are they releasing Fields?
Likely never
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Bears officially release Eddie Jackson and Cody Whitehair.
About fucking time
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When are they releasing Fields?
They should have released Eberflus
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About fucking time
It’s Fields’ fault they sucked.
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It’s Fields’ fault they sucked.
Good part of the reason.
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If I’m Ryan Poles I absolutely take this deal. You still get a high pick this year, you get a barely 23 year old edge rusher coming off an 11.5 sack 3 forced fumbles season on a rookie deal. Two 2nds and could easily be drafting top 5 again next year. Absolute no-brainer to take this offer.
https://x.com/getupespn/status/1759941780575764587?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Not bad either.
https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/bijan-robinson-trade-rumors-khalil-herbert/amp/
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If I’m Ryan Poles I absolutely take this deal. You still get a high pick this year, you get a barely 23 year old edge rusher coming off an 11.5 sack 3 forced fumbles season on a rookie deal. Two 2nds and could easily be drafting top 5 again next year. Absolute no-brainer to take this offer.
https://x.com/getupespn/status/1759941780575764587?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
This is the correct response to that trade offer. Much better than that I’m sure…
https://x.com/n0t_pop/status/1760092841810788382?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Not bad either.
https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/bijan-robinson-trade-rumors-khalil-herbert/amp/
No thanks. Bijan or any running back I’m not trading for. Johnson is just fine being the feature back going forward. Most are interchangeable nowadays.
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No thanks. Bijan or any running back I’m not trading for. Johnson is just fine being the feature back going forward. Most are interchangeable nowadays.
Lol
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If I’m Ryan Poles I absolutely take this deal. You still get a high pick this year, you get a barely 23 year old edge rusher coming off an 11.5 sack 3 forced fumbles season on a rookie deal. Two 2nds and could easily be drafting top 5 again next year. Absolute no-brainer to take this offer.
https://x.com/getupespn/status/1759941780575764587?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
What is their cap hit on the QB they already extended?
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No thanks. Bijan or any running back I’m not trading for. Johnson is just fine being the feature back going forward. Most are interchangeable nowadays.
Correct response to ludicrous click bait proposal
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If I’m Ryan Poles I absolutely take this deal. You still get a high pick this year, you get a barely 23 year old edge rusher coming off an 11.5 sack 3 forced fumbles season on a rookie deal. Two 2nds and could easily be drafting top 5 again next year. Absolute no-brainer to take this offer.
https://x.com/getupespn/status/1759941780575764587?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
lol no way the giants give up that much, if they do yeah take it, but this is just a joke of a scenario
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“Best QB prospect since Elway.”
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“Best QB prospect since Elway.”
And the Giant are already paying a QB....
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And the Giant are already paying a QB....
One I’m sure they’re planning on moving on from.
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One I’m sure they’re planning on moving on from.
Yet still takes up big cap space.
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Yet still takes up big cap space.
So did Khalil Mack.
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So did Khalil Mack.
Someone was willing to take Mack, for some reason. Guess it is possible for Jones. More skeptical about that though. Slim reed to hang your Fields Hat on though.
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If no one was willing to take Mack, he’d have probably been cut anyway.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/3N72TNNg/IMG-6679.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vgq47QWB)
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Peter King retires and drops this in his final letter. “Seems to be which way the wind is blowing.”
(https://i.postimg.cc/L5sTgvKy/IMG-6680.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6k8kQ58)
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As a reminder, Peter King was the first one to break the DJ Moore trade.
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I thought Pete King was always derided for his reporting.
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Bingo…
https://x.com/b_willijax/status/1762180915684393459?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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I thought Pete King was always derided for his reporting.
Lol Wut. Most people consider him the 🐐 of NFL reporters.
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Bingo…
https://x.com/b_willijax/status/1762180915684393459?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Fucking idiocy. A lot of out of town stupid in that video.
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https://beargoggleson.com/posts/chicago-bears-draft-giant-red-flag-caleb-williams-leadership-01hqh16g775m
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Lol Wut. Most people consider him the 🐐 of NFL reporters.
LOL. The old Deadspin used to skewer him for his crappy reporting.
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Fucking idiocy. A lot of out of town stupid in that video.
LOL. According to Cowherd there is plenty of in town stupid! Just like your guys on The Score who have been protecting the mentally weak Fields week in and week out.
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https://beargoggleson.com/posts/chicago-bears-draft-giant-red-flag-caleb-williams-leadership-01hqh16g775m
You look at someone like Fields, who has handled his position, and the media, with class since Day 1. No one can question his leadership skills.
Like when he whined like a 3 year old about being coached? Then turned off his social media so he would not be reminded that he sucked ass for 3 years?
What. A. Load. Of. Crap. No bias in that "reporting." Prime example of what Cowherd was talking about.
Job well done, Tempo, of proving Cowherd's point.
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LOL. According to Cowherd there is plenty of in town stupid! Just like your guys on The Score who have been protecting the mentally weak Fields week in and week out.
A lot of wrong in this post.
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Like when he whined like a 3 year old about being coached? Then turned off his social media so he would not be reminded that he sucked ass for 3 years?
What. A. Load. Of. Crap. No bias in that "reporting." Prime example of what Cowherd was talking about.
Job well done, Tempo, of proving Cowherd's point.
Keep stretching, Inspector Gadget.
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LOL. The old Deadspin used to skewer him for his crappy reporting.
He'd have never left a beat job in a decent fishwrap. Analysis and critical thinking aren't his strengths.
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Good to know regarding decision making on Poles’ part…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39609638/bears-want-do-right-justin-fields-qb-call-coming-asap
The story below this one might intrigue Tempo. It’s Tiger not responding to Rahm since he jumped from PGA to LIV.
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Of course he’s going to say he wants to “do right by Justin,” but I don’t think that hints at what he’ll do. He gave that response when specifically asked about the possibility of trading Justin. Poles isn’t going to say anything that tips his hand.
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Of course he’s going to say he wants to “do right by Justin,” but I don’t think that hints at what he’ll do. He gave that response when specifically asked about the possibility of trading Justin. Poles isn’t going to say anything that tips his hand.
Oh I agree.
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I would not want to play poker with Ryan Poles.
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A lot of people on Twitter convinced that somehow Poles/Flus have tipped their hand, but I don’t think that’s true at all. Vast majority of those people were already convinced they were right. Plenty out there on both sides for someone to latch onto.
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Wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement for the current 1st string Bear QB....
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lol
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It’s crazy how Cowherd has all this insider knowledge regarding Williams and his camp and Tempo eats it up like gospel, but right here straight from the players mouth Williams says things like this…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39614907/caleb-williams-intrigued-bears-commanders-top-draft
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It’s crazy how Cowherd has all this insider knowledge regarding Williams and his camp and Tempo eats it up like gospel, but right here straight from the players mouth Williams says things like this…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39614907/caleb-williams-intrigued-bears-commanders-top-draft
INDIANAPOLIS -- Former USC quarterback Caleb Williams deeply admires Michael Jordan and Walter Payton, loves deep-dish pizza and told ESPN he would be "excited" if the Chicago Bears take him No. 1 overall in the 2024 NFL draft.
😂😂😂
wow he really checked off all the boxes that bears fans love
Chicago hasn't won a playoff game since 2010 and has just two winning seasons since.
don't worry Tempo says that the bears are up and comers and no other teams are going to improooove this off season!
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It’s crazy how Cowherd has all this insider knowledge regarding Williams and his camp and Tempo eats it up like gospel, but right here straight from the players mouth Williams says things like this…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39614907/caleb-williams-intrigued-bears-commanders-top-draft
It’s called PR, Einstein! I hear he also loves Walter Payton, MJ, and DEEP DISH PIZZA!
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don't worry Tempo says that the bears are up and comers and no other teams are going to improooove this off season!
JFC is this an actual post/thought?
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Louis Riddick spitting facts. If changing the quarterback was always the plan, bringing Eberflus back is essentially malpractice. Repeating the mistakes of the previous two regimes.
https://x.com/justinfieldsfc/status/1762904371153789336?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Louis Riddick spitting facts. If changing the quarterback was always the plan, bringing Eberflus back is essentially malpractice. Repeating the mistakes of the previous two regimes.
https://x.com/justinfieldsfc/status/1762904371153789336?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Glad to see you are finally catching up on stuff like this. About time.
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Lol. I said this the day they decided to bring back Eberflus. You’re conflating “Eberflus bad” with “dumb to bring back Eberflus if the plan was to draft a quarterback.”
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Lol. I said this the day they decided to bring back Eberflus. You’re conflating “Eberflus bad” with “dumb to bring back Eberflus if the plan was to draft a quarterback.”
You have been BTC since The COVID.
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So I’ve heard…
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So I’ve heard…
Shape up or ship the fuck out…
The other alternative I’ve come up with is just being shot in the head… (it’s a Deuce reference. I don’t want you dead, Tempo…………… or banned. No matter what you might think.)
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JFC is this an actual post/thought?
I've heard you say in a roundabout way those words yeah
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I've heard you say in a roundabout way those words yeah
By that logic no one can improve because everyone is improving.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/XJJ8NTNw/IMG-6711.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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By that logic no one can improve because everyone is improving.
Everyone is trying to improve, yes.
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Everyone is trying to improve, yes.
We can hope that the other teams in the Bear division all start tanking at the same time. Nothing counts when a team ranks, so I've heard here.
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Everyone is trying to improve, yes.
“Improve or not improve, there is no try.” - Yoda
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Crazy how the standings change all the time despite everyone trying to improve.
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We can hope that the other teams in the Bear division all start tanking at the same time. Nothing counts when a team ranks, so I've heard here.
Yes, generally when a team intentionally tanks the results are bad and expected.
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Crazy how the standings change all the time despite everyone trying to improve.
Not for the bears it would seem.
Or is 2 winning seasons in the last 14 years normal?
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All jokes aside, I do think Poles is building the team/franchise the right way, and for sustained success.
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Not for the bears it would seem.
Or is 2 winning seasons in the last 14 years normal?
No chance it can improve, then! Why try?! Fold up the franchise!
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All jokes aside, I do think Poles is building the team/franchise the right way, and for sustained success.
Nope. Nonsense. Other teams are trying to improve, too.
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Nope. Nonsense. Other teams are trying to improve, too.
There's always next year!
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Fold up the franchise!
Finally something we can agree on
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Custard’s anti-Bear obsession reminds me of a flat-earther.
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Being disgusted by this franchise is the most logical reaction.
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Being disgusted by this franchise is the most logical reaction.
Says the life-long Illini fan whose favorite team is currently lead by a player facing rape charges.
There’s a dimes worth of difference between the Bears and the Illini.
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Illini basketball is a playoff level team the last 5 seasons. The Bears are so bad they lose on purpose to get better players faster.
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Lol
Tell me you don’t understand the difference between professional and college sports without telling me you don’t know the difference between college and professional sports.
And it’s funny you’re picking a very recent time frame. Historically, you couldn’t find a better side by side college/pro comparison than Illini/Bears.
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There have been 39 combines with over 13,000 players and only one has refused to take the medical. Anyone care to guess who that player is?
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Hint: he loves deep dish.
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Lol
Tell me you don’t understand the difference between professional and college sports without telling me you don’t know the difference between college and professional sports.
And it’s funny you’re picking a very recent time frame. Historically, you couldn’t find a better side by side college/pro comparison than Illini/Bears.
You’re the one who made the analogy.
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You’re the one who made the analogy.
Right, they are as similar as a college/professional franchise can be. But they are different. “Tanking” is not a thing in college. There is no benefit to it. Tanking, is very much a thing in professional sports and can yield the desired result (2016 Cubs for example).
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There have been 39 combines with over 13,000 players and only one has refused to take the medical. Anyone care to guess who that player is?
Non issue. He submitted them to those who matter. You’re reaching for any little bit you can. If you apply to a job with a bank, and your financials are required to get hired, are you going to submit them to all the banks, or just the one you applied to or might realistically hire you?
https://x.com/robertkschmitz/status/1763412970703319478?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Again, the ONLY player in 39 years to do this. Part of me respects it, but I also think it’s a bad look for a guy trying to shed the reputation he might think he’s above the process. Pretty much zero doubt you’d be critizing him if you didn’t like him and weren’t anti-Fields.
Things like this are what can divide a lockerroom when you have a player (and a leader at that) who thinks the rules/protocols everyone else has abided by don’t apply to him.
I get the other side of the argument, but I’d prefer to see him be a little more cooperative rather than someone who has to do everything his way. If he’s coddled now, what’s to say he won’t have an even bigger and more demanding ego 2 years from now?
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Again, the ONLY player in 39 years to do this. Part of me respects it, but I also think it’s a bad look for a guy trying to shed the reputation he might think he’s above the process. Pretty much zero doubt you’d be critizing him if you didn’t like him and weren’t anti-Fields.
Things like this are what can divide a lockerroom when you have a player (and a leader at that) who thinks the rules/protocols everyone else has abided by don’t apply to him.
I get the other side of the argument, but I’d prefer to see him be a little more cooperative rather than someone who has to do everything his way. If he’s coddled now, what’s to say he won’t have an even bigger and more demanding ego 2 years from now?
if he wins games who cares, his teammates won't care
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True. If he wins games. And he’d better. Or it won’t go well.
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I haven’t watched this whole thing yet, but I can tell it’s great already. I’m guessing any of you who go on Twitter know who he is. I don’t even follow him and he’s in my feed every day. He’s a super conservative Trumper, but I’m 80% sure it’s a bit. There are times he’s so over the top he gives it away, but he keeps you guessing.
“Beta-male babygirl Caleb Williams.” LMAO
https://x.com/nickadamsinusa/status/1763323848181576036?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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80% sure?
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I'm in the Anybody But Fields camp. Clock needs to be reset. If it is Williams, fine. If not, fine. If that person sucks, next man up.
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80% sure?
You got a better percentage?
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https://x.com/ggabefootball/status/1763585004569793021?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Thought Caleb had a really good day today with the media.
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Bowers comes in 6’3 243. A tad shorter than was hoping. He’d be a great addition in Waldron’s offense. Waldron loves to run 12 man personnel.
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Drake Maye said “The Bears didn’t seem to know much about me.” That just seems wild to me. Even though I don’t expect the Bears to take him.
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Caleb made up a good deal of ground in my eyes yesterday. I thought he had a really good media day. I’d say my biggest concern with him at this point is his father. Caleb obviously has no agent (which is essentially his dad).
Saw a report that Carl Williams had a few guys (agents I guess) look for loopholes in the CBA and was unsatisfied with their results. Very alarming report to me.
I am warming to the idea of drafting Caleb, but his dad worries me. I still think there is a very real chance the Bears trade down (perhaps a couple of times). Trading to 2 and then 6 or 8 could net a very significant haul.
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Not that I think they’d do it, but Jim Miller advocating keeping Justin AND drafting Caleb. Thinks it's viable. References Brees/Rivers. Says he's a big Justin fan and he has all the ability you would want but had some well reasoned criticism of him, too. Doesn't like that Caleb skipped the physical. Said he probably "turned off the Bears and 31 other teams"
I do think if getting the QB position right is the priority (and it probably should be) having both is viable. Would take some massaging of egos for sure.
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If we don’t get MHJ, bring me Rome Odunze.
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This is funny. People are bending over backwards to praise Caleb for sticking around in a process he didn’t participate in. Like the kid who didn’t help with the project but got full credit.
https://x.com/goaton5/status/1764357565935137252?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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An acquaintance of mine is convinced Caleb is queer.
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https://x.com/bearsnationchi/status/1764803885783228614?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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If Rich Eisen says it, it must be true!
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https://x.com/bearsnationchi/status/1764803885783228614?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
My favorite part of that clip is “Can’t get it out of them (the Bears) directly (but that is the general sense around the league).” Meaning, they are guessing.
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I tend to agree with Jerry Hairston here.
https://x.com/therealjhair/status/1764842294963048914?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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If Rich Eisen says it, it must be true!
Isn’t that how it works? It did with Colin Cowherd…
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My favorite part of that clip is “Can’t get it out of them (the Bears) directly (but that is the general sense around the league).” Meaning, they are guessing.
Or he has been unsuccessfully peddling Fields.
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I tend to agree with Jerry Hairston here.
https://x.com/therealjhair/status/1764842294963048914?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
If Shrek gives you that look, you know you in trouble!
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Or he has been unsuccessfully peddling Fields.
Other teams know it’s Caleb they’re taking and Poles needs to get rid of Fields. The writing is in the wall…
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Other teams know it’s Caleb they’re taking and Poles needs to get rid of Fields. The writing is in the wall…
Seems to be the case.
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Sounds like they were shopping him at The Combine and were disappointed that NFL GMs are not idiots on The Twitter.
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Isn’t that how it works? It did with Colin Cowherd…
Colin Cowherd is probably closer to the situation than Rich Eisen is to the Bears. But clearly there was concern from the Williams camp over the Bears or Jay Glazer wouldn’t have had to talk to the Williams family to assure them the Bears were a good situation. Cowherd knew the Williams family had reservations about the Bears.
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Sounds like they were shopping him at The Combine and were disappointed that NFL GMs are not idiots on The Twitter.
It’s early in the process, and there are a lot of solid options out there. No one is going to come in hot and heavy before things start shaking out. Doesn’t help that a lot of teams have been burned by QB trades lately.
SF, Carolina (twice), Jets, Broncos, Colts, just off the top of my head.
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Sounds like Cousins will end up in Atlanta.
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So here is what’s most likely gonna happen:
The Bears will take Williams because they passed on Mahomes when they had a really high pick and needed a QB. It would effectively end a lot of careers if they stick with a mediocre Fields and Williams goes on to be a star. So they’ll do the “safe” thing and take the guy most people think is the best QB in the draft. Plausible deniability. Williams will then go on to be mediocre at best, as Bears QBs do, and Fields will find modest success with some other franchise that doesn’t give the Bears much for him.
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If that happens, no way the Bears will trade Fields within the division to the Vikings.
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It’s early in the process, and there are a lot of solid options out there. No one is going to come in hot and heavy before things start shaking out. Doesn’t help that a lot of teams have been burned by QB trades lately.
SF, Carolina (twice), Jets, Broncos, Colts, just off the top of my head.
Bear going to have to throw in a bag of balls or the porn stash of discarded assistant coaches to help in moving Fields.
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So here is what’s most likely gonna happen:
The Bears will take Williams because they passed on Mahomes when they had a really high pick and needed a QB. It would effectively end a lot of careers if they stick with a mediocre Fields and Williams goes on to be a star. So they’ll do the “safe” thing and take the guy most people think is the best QB in the draft. Plausible deniability. Williams will then go on to be mediocre at best, as Bears QBs do, and Fields will find modest success with some other franchise that doesn’t give the Bears much for him.
If the Bears have a playoff roster, no one is getting fired, regardless of how the quarterback situation shakes out
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Also, you said not that long ago that Justin Fields wasn’t the real problem with the Bears
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That’s completely irrelevant to what I said earlier. It’s not what I think of Fields, it’s what I think the Bears will do.
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If the Bears have a playoff roster, no one is getting fired, regardless of how the quarterback situation shakes out
If they don't make the playoffs with a playoff roster they will definitely fire people. Warren has to do something to earn his money since he's not getting a stadium built anytime soon.
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Also, you said not that long ago that Justin Fields wasn’t the real problem with the Bears
Like you, Custard was wrong.
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Yeah let’s plug another rookie QB into a team that needs help pretty much everywhere, it’s been such a winning formula!
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Like you, Custard was wrong.
There literally isn’t a single thing you’re happy with. You are literally the only person alive still bitching about the Montez Sweat trade.
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If they don't make the playoffs with a playoff roster they will definitely fire people. Warren has to do something to earn his money since he's not getting a stadium built anytime soon.
Who said anything about not making the playoffs?
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Heard something really interesting last night. Russell Wilson was not liked by Sean Payton because he’s “slow to read his progressions.”
This is a probable HOF quarterback we are talking about.
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Who said anything about not making the playoffs?
If you have a playoff roster and don't make the playoffs, they will fire people
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Yeah let’s plug another rookie QB into a team that needs help pretty much everywhere, it’s been such a winning formula!
The current one is not a rookie and sucks cock. Time to move on.
Plus, odds are Eberlose is gone after next year.
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If you have a playoff roster and don't make the playoffs, they will fire people
What if you have a playoff roster and you make the playoffs?
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What if you have a playoff roster and you make the playoffs?
You won't get fired.
Eberlose sucks though.
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I kinda think the dipshit Bears should go after Saquon.
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I kinda think the dipshit Bears should go after Saquon.
Jobu = Tempo is a match.
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When you can get a top talent at his position for like 18 million guaranteed it’s not a tough choice. If Fields is gone, you need to upgrade the RB room. No defensive coordinators are game-planning to stop Roschon Johnson and Khalil Herbert.
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But at the same time, I’ve been told for two years that what the Bears have on offense is plenty good enough.
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But at the same time, I’ve been told for two years that what the Bears have on offense is plenty good enough.
Except for the QB.
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When you can get a top talent at his position for like 18 million guaranteed it’s not a tough choice. If Fields is gone, you need to upgrade the RB room. No defensive coordinators are game-planning to stop Roschon Johnson and Khalil Herbert.
Yes, overpaying an aging RB with injury issues is the way to improve the RB room.
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it starts in the trenches, dummy
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it starts in the trenches, dummy
Tempo loves to play fantasy football.
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Tempo loves to play fantasy football.
I wonder if he's one of those people that buys Madden every year
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Except for the QB.
Then I look forward to loading up the defense after we draft a quarterback, since there is no need for more offensive talent
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I wonder if he's one of those people that buys Madden every year
I doubt I’ve played Madden this century
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it starts in the trenches, dummy
Poles just traded for a guy who Biggs says is our Center. Also, I’ve been told the offensive line isn’t the problem, that it’s the quarterback.
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But I appreciate you guys admitting that fields has played behind a shitty offensive line
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Tempo loves to play fantasy football.
You guys are the ones obsessed with passing yards
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You guys are the ones obsessed with passing yards
As opposed to QB rushing yards.
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But I appreciate you guys admitting that fields has played behind a shitty offensive line
Always need depth in the trenches on both sides.
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As opposed to QB rushing yards.
For me, it’s less about raw yardage and more about the pressure someone can put on a defense, which would allow a better offensive coordinator to take advantage of mismatches
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Hopefully our next offensive coordinator isn’t as confident in the ability of 185 pound wide receivers to block all pro edge rushers
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Always need depth in the trenches on both sides.
Again, it is not a zero sum game $10 million a year for a running back leaves 70 million more to spend, plus there’s this thing called the draft
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For me, it’s less about raw yardage and more about the pressure someone can put on a defense, which would allow a better offensive coordinator to take advantage of mismatches
You think Fields does this? LOL!
Insert Goodfellas laughing gif here.
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Breaking news, the Bills just released their starting Center.
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And we got his backup. Who according to Biggs is starting.
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And we got his backup. Who according to Biggs is starting.
You do maintain that Poles knows what he is doing despite all your posts questioning Poles' moves.
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No GM is mistake free. I don’t even have a real problem with trading for Bates, but I hope he’s not option 1a at Center. We needed interior depth, but I question he’s good or not. Poles obviously loves him, so I guess I’ll defer to him there. But the guy started every game 2022 and then I believe was drafted over if what I read is correct. He’s only started about 25% of his career games and been in the league 4-5 years.
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No issue with it if he thinks Bates can add quality depth or even push a starter, but I hope he wasn’t brought in to start.
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But back to Poles (and the GM position in general), I’d venture to guess if 65% of your decisions are good ones, you’re probably crushing it.
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You think Fields does this? LOL!
Insert Goodfellas laughing gif here.
Yes, it’s been talked about extensively by coaches and former players.
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But back to Poles (and the GM position in general), I’d venture to guess if 65% of your decisions are good ones, you’re probably crushing it.
65% of your posts merely being "good" would be welcomed here.
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Yes, it’s been talked about extensively by coaches and former players.
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That's funny. Unintentionally funny, but funny nonetheless.
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Looking like Poles got fleeced. Bates probably would have gotten cut. What bothers me more is penciling in this guy as the starting Center when there are good options out there (Andre James, Connor Williams, Aaron Brewer, the draft).
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/amp/report_chicago_bears_may_have_been_fleeced_by_buffalo_bills_for_new_center_5th_round_pick/s1_17081_40064804
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You think Fields does this? LOL!
Insert Goodfellas laughing gif here.
When a defense takes a player and has him “spying” an offensive player the entire game, that’s exactly what’s going on. So yes, he does that.
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Looks like Mitch is returning to Buffalo.
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I think Ryan Leaf makes a compelling argument here. If the Bears were to draft Caleb, I think I’d prefer they brought in a “bridge” quarterback so Caleb can sit for a year.A Jimmy G or Ryan Tannehill would probably work. Hell, I’d even consider Nick Foles.
https://beargoggleson.com/posts/bears-might-want-to-listen-to-ryan-leaf-explaining-why-caleb-williams-is-a-gamble-at-no-1-01hr8f5cgq8z
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When a defense takes a player and has him “spying” an offensive player the entire game, that’s exactly what’s going on. So yes, he does that.
You do that to make the shithead pass the ball because he sucks at it. Man, are you a dupe.
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Looking like Poles got fleeced. Bates probably would have gotten cut. What bothers me more is penciling in this guy as the starting Center when there are good options out there (Andre James, Connor Williams, Aaron Brewer, the draft).
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/amp/report_chicago_bears_may_have_been_fleeced_by_buffalo_bills_for_new_center_5th_round_pick/s1_17081_40064804
So you again are ecstatic about another Poles move.
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I think Ryan Leaf makes a compelling argument here. If the Bears were to draft Caleb, I think I’d prefer they brought in a “bridge” quarterback so Caleb can sit for a year.A Jimmy G or Ryan Tannehill would probably work. Hell, I’d even consider Nick Foles.
https://beargoggleson.com/posts/bears-might-want-to-listen-to-ryan-leaf-explaining-why-caleb-williams-is-a-gamble-at-no-1-01hr8f5cgq8z
Well, I'll look at the bright side of this dumb scenario: If they do this, it guarantees Eberlose will be gone after the year and there will not be much for the kid to "unlearn" under the new coaching staff as part of the next rebuild.
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So you again are ecstatic about another Poles move.
Wut
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You do that to make the shithead pass the ball because he sucks at it. Man, are you a dupe.
Jesus Christ, that is a giant stretch even for the PAMan narrative machine.
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I know it’s real hipster to act like running backs aren’t important, but Saquon Barkley could probably be had for less than they paid Cody Whitehair to be useless.
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Jesus Christ, that is a giant stretch even for the PAMan narrative machine.
LOL. Just change your name to Mr. Fantasy Football as you live in a dream land.
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LOL. Just change your name to Mr. Fantasy Football as you live in a dream land.
Says the guy obsessed with passing yards. A lot of good that did the Dolphins. Football is a complentary sport.
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“We can’t bring in a top 5 RB (even though he’s not that expensive) we have to fix the line (as if you can’t do both) is such a rube take.
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PMan might appreciate this. Might not…
https://x.com/670thescore/status/1765785217548079438?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Says the guy obsessed with passing yards. A lot of good that did the Dolphins. Football is a complentary sport.
I am not obsessed with passing yards. I am obsessed with passing. Fields cannot pass. Especially in the 4th quarter.
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I sent him that 10 minutes ago lol
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I am not obsessed with passing yards. I am obsessed with passing. Fields cannot pass. Especially in the 4th quarter.
Love your in-depth analysis.
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PMan might appreciate this. Might not…
https://x.com/670thescore/status/1765785217548079438?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
What happened to Arlington Heights? Was told by many it was a done deal...
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Live your in-depth analysis.
The irony is the Dolphin did exactly what you want to do. Got assets and tailored the offense to avoid the QB's weaknesses. And then you shit on the Dolphin.
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What happened to Arlington Heights? Was told by many it was a done deal...
I thought it was too. Bears disappoint and fucked it up obviously. Not surprised though.
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But we can’t spend money on an elite RB (which is inexpensive relatively speaking).
(https://i.postimg.cc/XqLVN2BK/IMG-6784.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K3KXJDN4)
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Apparently nothing is a done deal until it happens. Would still expect AH to be the overwhelming favorite for a new stadium.
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The irony is the Dolphin did exactly what you want to do. Got assets and tailored the offense to avoid the QB's weaknesses. And then you shit on the Dolphin.
Dolphins quarterback is limited (but throws for great yards and stats). Only throws to two guys. But hey, those passing yards!
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But we can’t spend money on an elite RB (which is inexpensive relatively speaking).
(https://i.postimg.cc/XqLVN2BK/IMG-6784.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K3KXJDN4)
I'd rather they focus on good players versus needing to spend X dollars on O and Y dollars on D.
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Apparently nothing is a done deal until it happens. Would still expect AH to be the overwhelming favorite for a new stadium.
Do you actually live in a bubble?
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I thought it was too. Bears disappoint and fucked it up obviously. Not surprised though.
Of course the Bear messed it up.
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Saquon Barkley is not a good player?
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The fact the Bears play in an outdoor stadium on the lakefront is one of the few things that are still appealing about them.
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Saquon Barkley is not a good player?
Is he?
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Jaylon Johnson gets his deal. 4 years 76 million, 54 guaranteed.
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Jaylon Johnson gets his deal. 4 years 76 million, 54 guaranteed.
Great deal for the Bears!
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Yeah, that deal will probably be barely top 10 in couple years.
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Yeah, that deal will probably be barely top 10 in couple years.
It’s a win-win for the Bears and Johnson. Most grades I’ve seen are grading it an A+ for both parties. I would say the same.
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Bears sign 2x All-Pro Safety Kevin Byard for 2 yrs and 15 million. Should be a really nice addition to a young secondary, and seems to imply that Poles thinks the window is now open. Bears said to be squarely in the mix for Saquon.
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Bears sign 2x All-Pro Safety Kevin Byard for 2 yrs and 15 million. Should be a really nice addition to a young secondary, and seems to imply that Poles thinks the window is now open. Bears said to be squarely in the mix for Saquon.
Another “A” grade signing in my opinion.
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Bears pick up DeAndre Swift. 3 years 24.5 mil.
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I like the talent. Couldn’t stay healthy with Detroit. Curious as to why Philly wouldn’t keep him. But they are said to be in on Saquon. Would rather have Saquon, but Swift is immediately Chicago’s best back. I give it a B.
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Yeah he should fit in rather nicely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVObKX_Cqk
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Bears pick up DeAndre Swift. 3 years 24.5 mil.
I think that rules out Barkley…
I’d give them a solid “B” grade for the signing. $8.1 million/year isn’t too bad.
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So much for Bears moving to the burbs
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So much for Bears moving to the burbs
Still time. I am not ready to go full metal "I told you so. Always trust content from ThePAMan" just yet. Could still team with Reinsdorf somehow if they were smart. Reinsdorf is the wildcard here that was completely unexpected.
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I think that rules out Barkley…
I’d give them a solid “B” grade for the signing. $8.1 million/year isn’t too bad.
Astute analysis
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So much for Bears moving to the burbs
Long way from over.
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Let me be the first poster here to welcome Mr. Simone Biles to town...
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2024/3/12/24098994/report-chicago-bears-signing-safety-jonathan-owens-simone-biles-green-bay-packers-houston-texans
Report: Chicago Bears are signing safety Jonathan Owens
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Hopefully he does not quit on his teammates like his wife quit on hers.
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Hopefully he does not quit on his teammates like his wife quit on hers.
😂
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Hopefully he does not quit on his teammates like his wife quit on hers.
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Interesting.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10112760-bears-matt-eberflus-lone-nfl-hc-to-attend-bo-nixs-oregon-pro-day-before-2024-draft
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Super logical explanation for what’s happening.
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1767751260600467817?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Super logical explanation for what’s happening.
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1767751260600467817?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Laughable. There are going to be limited spots to trade him where he can try and be a starter now. The idiot Poles said he wanted this done at the Combine, you know, for the Sh1t QB1's sake (since he is such a whiny bitch). We know Poles was talking to people. The fact is The Shield has spoken: There is no market for Sh1t QB1.They's rather toss money at Minshew and Wilson and has been than give up a draft pick for Fields.
Reality bites for the Fields Cult.
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So much for “doing right by Justin,” unless the plan was to never trade him.
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He did not say he wanted it done at the combine. He said he wanted it done soon IF…that was the route they were taking. Caleb probably fucked Justin over by not taking the medical, or…they don’t plan on trading him.
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If Justin is traded you have to hope and assume Caleb’s medicals are good. And trust me, Poles isn’t cavalierly thinking, “oh well, next guy up, then.”
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This free agency period looking pretty underwhelming. Hopefully Poles has something up his sleeve. Like a trade down from the top spot.
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A couple of them preferably
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I think the additions they’ve made are fine, but if this is “it,” pretty underwhelming. Would have liked an elite Center or Dlineman.
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I think I saw this same movie last year....
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Hunter Renfrow released by Raiders. I think he’d be a nice cheap option for good WR depth.
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Hunter Renfrow released by Raiders. I think he’d be a nice cheap option for good WR depth.
Can he block well?
He's not coming here, unless no one wants him, if Fields is the QB.
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I think we know how you feel about Fields. You don’t have to make every post a postshot at Fields. And I thought you said Fields was gone? Are you hedging?
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Laughable. There are going to be limited spots to trade him where he can try and be a starter now. The idiot Poles said he wanted this done at the Combine, you know, for the Sh1t QB1's sake (since he is such a whiny bitch). We know Poles was talking to people. The fact is The Shield has spoken: There is no market for Sh1t QB1.They's rather toss money at Minshew and Wilson and has been than give up a draft pick for Fields.
Reality bites for the Fields Cult.
https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1767635974857613577?s=20
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Caleb (or insert #1 overall QB here) is guaranteed to be a Bear, but Flus is the only HC to attend Bo Nix’ workout. Along with a “sizable Bears contingent.”
https://x.com/albertbreer/status/1767647308554891344?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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I think we know how you feel about Fields. You don’t have to make every post a postshot at Fields. And I thought you said Fields was gone? Are you hedging?
Why do you make every post about Fields?
I have always said the Bear will do the wrong thing. I expect them to keep him now that Poles has completely overplayed his hand and fucked this up.
But, as I have also said, next year is a wasted year since they brought back Eberlose anyway.
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https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1767635974857613577?s=20
You cannot deal him if no one calls you about him. Everyone knows he is on the market, Tempo. Come on.
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Caleb (or insert #1 overall QB here) is guaranteed to be a Bear, but Flus is the only HC to attend Bo Nix’ workout. Along with a “sizable Bears contingent.”
https://x.com/albertbreer/status/1767647308554891344?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Sounds very Bear like to keep the first pick then pick a 24 year old guy who was forced out of the SEC.
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Caleb (or insert #1 overall QB here) is guaranteed to be a Bear, but Flus is the only HC to attend Bo Nix’ workout. Along with a “sizable Bears contingent.”
https://x.com/albertbreer/status/1767647308554891344?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2024/03/12/bears-free-agency-2024-ryan-poles-justin-fields-misplay-market-reinforce-quarterback-trade-draft-caleb-williams-general-manager
Two weeks ago, general manager Ryan Poles made it clear that he wanted to do right by quarterback Justin Fields — so long as a trade was good for the Bears, too. He also said he wanted to settle his quarterback issue quickly.
So much for that.
Two days after the start of the league’s free-agency period, it’s clear that no team in the NFL is saving their starting job for Fields. The last obvious vacancy was snatched in the early hours Tuesday, when the Vikings agreed to sign Sam Darnold to a one-year deal. The Bears don’t figure to get the second- or third-round pick for which they’d hoped by trading Fields, either. And there’s a chance this drags on even longer.
But the fact remains: Poles would have moved Fields by now if he got an offer he couldn’t refuse. And he hasn’t.
Poles hasn’t misplayed the market as much as the market has reinforced a decision the Bears are bound to make before the draft in April.
The NFL’s indifference toward Fields is proof Poles would be making a wise decision by drafting the USC star.
Still, it’s hard to see a team giving up more than a fourth-round pick for someone they consider a backup.
Even the backup jobs have started to dry up. Drew Lock, who seemed like a sensible choice to join the Bears to help teach coordinator Shane Waldron’s offense, agreed to a contract with the Giants. The Commanders, who could choose a quarterback second overall, signed Marcus Mariota. The Patriots, who could draft a quarterback third, signed Jacoby Brissett. The Raiders grabbed Gardner Minshew. The Browns took Jameis Winston. The Jets agreed to sign Tyrod Taylor.
Perhaps Fields could compete against incumbent starters on the Titans or Seahawks. Maybe the Broncos decide that Fields’ $3.2 million salary in 2024 lessens any risk, or the Eagles see a similarly skilled second-stringer behind Jalen Hurts.
Regardless, there’s no clean fit for Fields — or a massive trade haul awaiting his GM.
Reality for The Fields Cult is quite the bitch. Like Fields himself.
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Why do you make every post about Fields?
I have always said the Bear will do the wrong thing. I expect them to keep him now that Poles has completely overplayed his hand and fucked this up.
But, as I have also said, next year is a wasted year since they brought back Eberlose anyway.
I made the Hunter renfrow post about Fields?
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I think the additions they’ve made are fine, but if this is “it,” pretty underwhelming. Would have liked an elite Center or Dlineman.
Why did I make this about Fields?
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I made the Hunter renfrow post about Fields?
Yes, since you claim Fields needs more weapons.
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I like the talent. Couldn’t stay healthy with Detroit. Curious as to why Philly wouldn’t keep him. But they are said to be in on Saquon. Would rather have Saquon, but Swift is immediately Chicago’s best back. I give it a B.
Why did I make this about Fields?
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Why did I make this about Fields?
Yes, since you claim Fields needs more weapons.
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Yes, since you claim Fields needs more weapons.
Cue Hawk. “Stretch!!!”
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When I say “weapons,” I’m not really talking WR 4 or 5. But then you are the guy who lost his mind over EQs one million dollar vet minimum re-signing.
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So I’m not allowed to talk about free agent Centers? Since, you know, that would be “making it about Fields?”
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https://x.com/bryanpereznfl/status/1767613478808826316?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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https://x.com/bryanpereznfl/status/1767613478808826316?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Tough to trade a guy no one wants.
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So I’m not allowed to talk about free agent Centers? Since, you know, that would be “making it about Fields?”
You can talk about Fields and positions Poles believes he has already filled all you want
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Tough to trade a guy no one wants.
https://x.com/justinfieldsfc/status/1767951596703678789?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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You can talk about Fields and positions Poles believes he has already filled all you want
So you’re sure Bates is the starting Center? I appreciate your willingness to let me talk about Fields.
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So you’re sure Bates is the starting Center? I appreciate your willingness to let me talk about Fields.
It certainly appears that way, doesn't it?
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The Bears just signed something called Brett Rypien to a 1 year deal.
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Boy that ought to get the fanbase excited.
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It certainly appears that way, doesn't it?
As of now. It’s not like free agency is over and the roster isn’t fluid.
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But if they don’t add another Center, sure.
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Gotta have backups and training camp guys. Maybe the end for Bagent?
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The Bears just signed something called Brett Rypien to a 1 year deal.
Hoosier caddy?
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He’s worked under Waldron. Could be there to help teach the system and be a voice in the quarterback room.
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Gotta have backups and training camp guys. Maybe the end for Bagent?
Wishful thinking, yet again
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Caleb a hot topic on Twitter after being spotted at The Players’ Championship. I have zero problem with it by itself, in fact, it makes me like Caleb a bit more that he likes golf. But I’d like to see my prospective quarterback prioritize the business of the Chicago Bears. Pushing back your top 30 visit and medicals while farting around doesn’t sit well with me. It’s almost as if he’s telling the Bears he doesn’t want to be here.
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No significant free agent signings at the biggest positions of need (WR, OL, and DL) could be an indication the Bears intend to trade out of the top spot. I think the Bears made some decent additions, but clearly was hoping for a bigger splash.
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Was pretty sure Bates wasn’t going to be the starting Center. PFF grade of 84. Near All-Pro level.
https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/1768333698389201182?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Wait, I just saw his PFF is 64. I read 5 minutes ago it was 84. Regardless. Better than Bates.
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Rated 6th best FA Center according to ranking I found.
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Rated 6th best FA Center according to ranking I found.
Way to aim high, Poles!
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No significant free agent signings at the biggest positions of need (WR, OL, and DL) could be an indication the Bears intend to trade out of the top spot. I think the Bears made some decent additions, but clearly was hoping for a bigger splash.
Wash, rinse, repeat....
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Caleb a hot topic on Twitter after being spotted at The Players’ Championship. I have zero problem with it by itself, in fact, it makes me like Caleb a bit more that he likes golf. But I’d like to see my prospective quarterback prioritize the business of the Chicago Bears. Pushing back your top 30 visit and medicals while farting around doesn’t sit well with me. It’s almost as if he’s telling the Bears he doesn’t want to be here.
If Poles is thinking along these lines he will not be long for the job.
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A while back you insisted you would not draft him.
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If Poles is thinking along these lines he will not be long for the job.
Why? This is a bit like chasing the girl that doesn’t take your calls.
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A while back you insisted you would not draft him.
As I have mentioned numerous times before, I do not care which QB they pick as long as they pick someone to replace Sh1tty QB1.
That being said, Poles completely fucked this up with his pre-Combine comments and now the kid thinks he is in the driver seat. Which he is.
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You said multiple times you would not draft Caleb Williams.
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As I have mentioned numerous times before, I do not care which QB they pick as long as they pick someone to replace Sh1tty QB1.
That being said, Poles completely fucked this up with his pre-Combine comments and now the kid thinks he is in the driver seat. Which he is.
Lol
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Caleb a hot topic on Twitter after being spotted at The Players’ Championship. I have zero problem with it by itself, in fact, it makes me like Caleb a bit more that he likes golf. But I’d like to see my prospective quarterback prioritize the business of the Chicago Bears. Pushing back your top 30 visit and medicals while farting around doesn’t sit well with me. It’s almost as if he’s telling the Bears he doesn’t want to be here.
😂 well I’m sure you’ll love this then…
Oh, the statement above only applies to Caleb Williams, right?!
https://x.com/b_willijax/status/1768332116821987771?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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No one is criticizing him for going to a golf tournament, dipshit. They are criticizing him while the Chicago Bears wait in limbo for his postponed top 30 visit and medicals. If he wants to lead the Chicago Bears franchise, he should prioritize the business of the Chicago Bears. Then, spend as much time as you want at the golf tournament.
Justin Fields playing a round of golf isn’t hamstringing the organization in any way. They aren’t waiting on his medicals and his interview.
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Making the Bears wait around for the interview and medicals gives off an “I’ll call you when I call you” vibe. Can’t see any good reason not to get his interviews and medicals out of the way, especially when Justin Fields (and the Bears) are twisting in the wind.
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Bears trade 4th round pick for Keenan Allen. Great player, hope he’s got a couple good years left in the tank. He’s not cheap. Curious addition to me, but a huge upgrade to the receiver room and offense.
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Last I heard the draft is end of April. If you need Williams' medicals to decide not to keep Fields or not right now as all the QB slots get filled, you should not be in the job.
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Keep the fresh cakes coming
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Allen is on the wrong side of 30 but should be good enough for another year or two.
They are actually providing Caleb with the tools to cook right out of the gate and not surrounding him with practice squad burger flippers.
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Good trade in my opinion. You get a comp pick next year if he leaves (possibly a 3rd rounder) for an established player at WR to pair with Moore. Don’t have to resign him or extend him if you don’t want to. Sets up Williams or Fields much better next year with weapons.
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Good trade in my opinion. You get a comp pick next year if he leaves (possibly a 3rd rounder) for an established player at WR to pair with Moore. Don’t have to resign him or extend him if you don’t want to. Sets up Williams or Fields much better next year with weapons.
Was not aware of this. I like the trade more then. Basically get to rent him for one year the. Get your pick (or possibly higher back). I’d still take a WR top 9. Then he’ll be ready to rock year 2.
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Was not aware of this. I like the trade more then. Basically get to rent him for one year the. Get your pick (or possibly higher back). I’d still take a WR top 9. Then he’ll be ready to rock year 2.
Yeah, it’s just a big cap hit for one year really, but helps whatever QB they go with much more next year. Also a potential WR’s growth. Very good experienced player and leadership qualities. Not much downside and offers a ton of flexibility for the Bears. Will be interesting to see what Poles does the rest of the way.
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He refused a payout and was traded. Hmmm. Sounds like he is a "me" guy who will complain if he is only catching screen passes, as it would impact his free agency.
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I actually find Caleb likable as a “dude.” Doesn’t mean I don’t have some concerns.
https://x.com/chicago_nfl/status/1768454567274901658?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Yeah, it’s just a big cap hit for one year really, but helps whatever QB they go with much more next year. Also a potential WR’s growth. Very good experienced player and leadership qualities. Not much downside and offers a ton of flexibility for the Bears. Will be interesting to see what Poles does the rest of the way.
Yeah; if they can recoup the pick next year it’s a no-brainer. I still think they need to come away with one of the top 3 WRs in this draft.
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(https://i.ibb.co/2Y1sDHQ/IMG-3313.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qF3WtVf)
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Someone says Caleb Williams is very talented and the Bears would reset the quarterback clock by drafting him? Shocking.
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Someone says Caleb Williams is very talented and the Bears would reset the quarterback clock by drafting him? Shocking.
Yes. Shocking to The Fields Cult who are in denial about no other teams wanting him to be their starting QB.
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https://x.com/tropicalruin/status/1768748905565659532?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Yes. Shocking to The Fields Cult who are in denial about no other teams wanting him to be their starting QB.
Rosie.
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Rosie.
Just spittin' facts.
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Rumors that Harbaugh might be looking to clean house and start over. If I’m Poles I am talking to the Chargers. I would give them the #1 pick for Herbert. They could either rebuild around Williams, or Harbaugh could use the pick to rebuild and still get his guy JJ.
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Rumors that Harbaugh might be looking to clean house and start over. If I’m Poles I am talking to the Chargers. I would give them the #1 pick for Herbert. They could either rebuild around Williams, or Harbaugh could use the pick to rebuild and still get his guy JJ.
You’re arguing right here that Williams is good enough for the Chargers to rebuild around, but the Bears can’t plug him into their team that is already ready to win?! 🤔 I’d pass on Herbert currently and draft Williams.
If you’re the Bears, just draft Caleb Williams and don’t put yourself in cap hell by picking up that big contract. You can literally add so much to your team the next 4-5 years with cap space drafting Williams.
You’re on here daily arguing to keep a QB (Fields) whose passing numbers are worse than Tyrod Taylor 🤦🏻♂️
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Yeah, weird take as we know this is not fantasy football and that would lead to cap issues.
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I’m saying Harbaugh could either rebuild around Williams or trade it for a haul and get his his guy JJ. Either way, they are out of their salary cap dilemma if they go either way.
My issue isn’t really with Caleb. He’s obviously talented. I just don’t think we need him. I’d rather build the roster. I think Fields will be plenty good enough with coaching and talent improvements. I think he’s good enough to win with, and can still get a lot better. If he doesn’t, you can still pivot off of him.
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Yeah, weird take as we know this is not fantasy football and that would lead to cap issues.
The Bears still have a good amount of cap money. #300yardgames
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I’m saying Harbaugh could either rebuild around Williams or trade it for a haul and get his his guy JJ. Either way, they are out of their salary cap dilemma if they go either way.
My issue isn’t really with Caleb. He’s obviously talented. I just don’t think we need him. I’d rather build the roster. I think Fields will be plenty good enough with coaching and talent improvements. I think he’s good enough to win with, and can still get a lot better. If he doesn’t, you can still pivot off of him.
Welp. Lol
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Need to update the shrine now with a crying wayne
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Welp.
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The league has spoken about what they think of Justin Fields…
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THE LEAGUE HATH SPOKEN.
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Mac Jones is bad and an asshole, and he got a 4th.
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Pretty sure Mac got a 6th.
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But otherwise, yes.
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Yep, I guess it was. Some dipshit on X said 4th and I didn’t vet it. My bad.
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Bring me Rome Odunze. Now that we know we have a new QB (Williams presumably, would be hilarious if they traded down) I still think we need to take one of the big 3 (big 2 really, Harrison will be gone for sure). We will be one injury away from Tyler Scott being our #2. It’s possible that we sign another guy, but Allen doesn’t look like a long-term addition. Need to get the next guy in house and ready for action.
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Bring me Rome Odunze. Now that we know we have a new QB (Williams presumably, would be hilarious if they traded down) I still think we need to take one of the big 3 (big 2 really, Harrison will be gone for sure). We will be one injury away from Tyler Scott being our #2. It’s possible that we sign another guy, but Allen doesn’t look like a long-term addition. Need to get the next guy in house and ready for action.
Odunze is very very good 👍
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Ryan Tannehill is the only veteran quarterback left worth signing. Would be a pretty big blunder to go into the season with Bagent as QB2 IMO.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/K86gWmFB/IMG-6900.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1kvy81j)
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LOL. If Fields had a scintilla of QB skills a) he'd still be here and b) he would not have been traded for a 6th to be a backup..sorry your hero sucks as a QB.
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Funny, I got an LMAO because I shared a Hub tweet. Now he shares Big Cat. Who is a fucking clown.
Anyway, glad he's gone. Onward and upward.
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I thought this was funny.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgmJXwkj/IMG-6902.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Funny, I got an LMAO because I shared a Hub tweet. Now he shares Big Cat. Who is a fucking clown.
Anyway, glad he's gone. Onward and upward.
Big Cat apparently does not understand how tanks work. He should ask Tempo.
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Big Cat is a fucking idiot.
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Funny, I got an LMAO because I shared a Hub tweet. Now he shares Big Cat. Who is a fucking clown.
Anyway, glad he's gone. Onward and upward.
Hub isn’t always right, Big Cat isn’t always wrong. I don’t get the absolutism around here. Bernstein. Parkins. Score.
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I barely know who “Big Cat” is. I just know what he said here was logical.
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I barely know who “Big Cat” is. I just know what he said here was logical.
Watch some of his stuff. He's a dipshit. But he's probably someone you could latch on to.
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If you listen to Hub, you’d think Justin was Taysom Hill. Which is absurd. Is Justin an established high level passer? No. Is he Taysom Hill? Also no.
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Hub isn’t always right, Big Cat isn’t always wrong. I don’t get the absolutism around here. Bernstein. Parkins. Score.
I never said Hub is always right. I just shared a tweet of his that seemed to make sense. You lmao'd it. I don't know.
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Hub’s evaluation of Fields is on the lowest end of the spectrum.
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If you listen to Hub, you’d think Justin was Taysom Hill. Which is absurd. Is Justin an established high level passer? No. Is he Taysom Hill? Also no.
I kinda think Justin is Taysom Hill. Prove me wrong.
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Hub’s evaluation of Fields is on the lowest end of the spectrum.
Why? I would trust Hub a lot more than I would trust you or any other Fields cult dipshit.
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So, to conclude, I'm not listening to Tempo on any of his "evaluations." Because he knows nothing about football.
We had to deal with this pain in the ass for an entire football season, sucking Justin Fields dick. I'm so fucking glad he is gone.
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Fields just wasn't good enough. If he was, Poles would have kept him, along with the weapons he stockpiled this offseason. But he wasn't. Reset the clock and move on.
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So, to conclude, I'm not listening to Tempo on any of his "evaluations." Because he knows nothing about football.
We had to deal with this pain in the ass for an entire football season, sucking Justin Fields dick. I'm so fucking glad he is gone.
Lol
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Lol
Lol!
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I kinda think Justin is Taysom Hill. Prove me wrong.
I just answered this but it apparently it didn’t post. I suppose I “can’t” prove you wrong, but I’d guess that if you asked 32 GMs if they’d rather have Justin Fields as their starter or Taysom Hill, I’d guess that wouldn’t go well for Taysom.
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I just answered this but it apparently it didn’t post. I suppose I “can’t” prove you wrong, but I’d guess that if you asked 32 GMs if they’d rather have Justin Fields as their starter or Taysom Hill, I’d guess that wouldn’t go well for Taysom.
I'm not sure about that.
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I mean, Jesus fucking Christ, we argued during the Saints game that Taysom Hill is one of the "best runners in football." I mean, you couldn't get Taysom's cock in your mouth fast enough.
I'm guessing Taysom could play quarterback as well if not better than Justin Fields. That take isn't particularly hot.
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Well, we know no one in the league wants Fields as a starter. Hell, most of them did not even want him as a backup.
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So, to conclude, I'm not listening to Tempo on any of his "evaluations." Because he knows nothing about football.
We had to deal with this pain in the ass for an entire football season, sucking Justin Fields dick. I'm so fucking glad he is gone.
A lot of truth here.
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Fields just wasn't good enough. If he was, Poles would have kept him, along with the weapons he stockpiled this offseason. But he wasn't. Reset the clock and move on.
Even more truth here.
These posts are devastating to the Fields Cultists.
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I mean, Jesus fucking Christ, we argued during the Saints game that Taysom Hill is one of the "best runners in football." I mean, you couldn't get Taysom's cock in your mouth fast enough.
I'm guessing Taysom could play quarterback as well if not better than Justin Fields. That take isn't particularly hot.
Jobu has brought his A Game today. His batteries appear recharged.
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I'm not sure about that.
I’m pretty fuckin’ sure about it.
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I’m pretty fuckin’ sure about it.
Lol
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I mean, Jesus fucking Christ, we argued during the Saints game that Taysom Hill is one of the "best runners in football." I mean, you couldn't get Taysom's cock in your mouth fast enough.
I'm guessing Taysom could play quarterback as well if not better than Justin Fields. That take isn't particularly hot.
Taysom is an outstanding runner, and he’s still a worse runner than Fields. Fields is at worst a top 5 runner at the position in history. I’d argue the best. I think he’s got several longer TD runs than Lamar has ever had in like 3 less seasons. Fields isn’t an accomplished high level passer, but I’d be surprised if there’s a GM in the league that thinks Taysom passes better than Fields. And yes, thinking there is would be a spicy take.
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Taysom is an outstanding runner, and he’s still a worse runner than Fields. Fields is at worst a top 5 runner at the position in history. I’d argue the best. I think he’s got several longer TD runs than Lamar has ever had in like 3 less seasons. Fields isn’t an accomplished high level passer, but I’d be surprised if there’s a GM in the league that thinks Taysom passes better than Fields. And yes, thinking there is would be a spicy take.
He's played for 3 fucking years. There is no way you can say he's a top 5 runner at that position in history. That's crazy.
Glad you're plugged into the thinking of NFL GMs tho. An Itasca Uber driver. Who woulda thunk it.
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And anyway, who gives a fuck if he is the "best running quarterback in history." He got traded for basically a bag of footballs to a team that already got Russell Wilson. So, being the best runner in history means exactly squat.
He couldn't get it done. He's gone. Yay for the Bears.
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I just answered this but it apparently it didn’t post. I suppose I “can’t” prove you wrong, but I’d guess that if you asked 32 GMs if they’d rather have Justin Fields as their starter or Taysom Hill, I’d guess that wouldn’t go well for Taysom.
I guess Death is not one of the options. Or Bagent...
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Taysom is an outstanding runner, and he’s still a worse runner than Fields. Fields is at worst a top 5 runner at the position in history. I’d argue the best. I think he’s got several longer TD runs than Lamar has ever had in like 3 less seasons. Fields isn’t an accomplished high level passer, but I’d be surprised if there’s a GM in the league that thinks Taysom passes better than Fields. And yes, thinking there is would be a spicy take.
Here we go with the Lamar Jackson comparisons....Where is Spark to extract his revenge?
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I’m pretty fuckin’ sure about it.
You were sure about a lot of things with Fields that have all proven to be wrong.
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You were sure about a lot of things with Fields that have all proven to be wrong.
Yeah, he was sure he wasn't being traded. I'm so fucking glad he was.
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Now, I'm a pretty big Justin fan in Pittsburgh. Not because he's any good, but hopefully Russ sucks or gets hurt, and Justin has to play to get our guys that 4th rounder.
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He's played for 3 fucking years. There is no way you can say he's a top 5 runner at that position in history. That's crazy.
Glad you're plugged into the thinking of NFL GMs tho. An Itasca Uber driver. Who woulda thunk it.
He was going to crush the quarterback record rushing yards in 2022 until he got hurt and then sat the last game. This despite the fact he didn’t really start running until about game 5. He had like 3 60 yard TD runs and a couple others called back. I don’t think that’s ever been done by a QB before. If you want to talk aggregate numbers, of course he’s not there yet. But he showed an explosiveness im not sure has ever been equaled at the position.
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Jobu with the Uber insult. Who could have seen that coming? Jobu loves his lazy tropes.
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He was going to crush the quarterback record rushing yards in 2022 until he got hurt and then sat the last game. This despite the fact he didn’t really start running until about game 5. He had like 3 60 yard TD runs and a couple others called back. I don’t think that’s ever been done by a QB before. If you want to talk aggregate numbers, of course he’s not there yet. But he showed an explosiveness im not sure has ever been equaled at the position.
Ok. So fucking what?
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Yeah, he was sure he wasn't being traded. I'm so fucking glad he was.
I never said I was “sure” he wasn’t being traded. I always said it could go either way and my personal thoughts were constantly up annd down on it.
And…so I’ve heard.
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Jobu with the Uber insult. Who could have seen that coming? Jobu loves his lazy tropes.
Not lazy at all. It's pretty fucking ironic however, you calling someone lazy.
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Ok. So fucking what?
He showed an explosiveness at the position we’ve probably never seen.
Ok. So fucking what?
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Not lazy at all. It's pretty fucking ironic however, you calling someone lazy.
Jobu making personal attacks with a total lack of information at his disposal. Typical. You’re a cunt.
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I never said I was “sure” he wasn’t being traded. I always said it could go either way and my personal thoughts were constantly up annd down on it.
And…so I’ve heard.
Lol, nah. You made it pretty clear you thought he was staying. You desperately needed that, so you could talk about how right you were. Thankfully, we don't have another year of watching Fields suck at passing and you covering for his shitty play. It's going to be quite refreshing.
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He showed an explosiveness at the position we’ve probably never seen.
Ok. So fucking what?
And that was worth what exactly? A 6th round pick?
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“Tempo has a different take on Justin Fields, must attack him incessantly!”
What a cunty douche.
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Jobu making personal attacks with a total lack of information at his disposal. Typical. You’re a cunt.
Lol!
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He showed an explosiveness at the position we’ve probably never seen.
Ok. So fucking what?
Here Tempo. This is you. Exactly what you are trying to say. The dude was not a good passer but he could run. That’s not what you want from your QB.
https://x.com/tomfornelli/status/1769818421665943856?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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I thought there was a pretty good chance he was staying. I never guaranteed anything.
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“Tempo has a different take on Justin Fields, must attack him incessantly!”
What a cunty douche.
Different take? Jesus Christ. We've heard you fucking takes for an entire football season. Now we see that your take is officially dogshit, which was quite apparent, and now I'm a "cunty douche."
Hahahahaha
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Here Tempo. This is you. Exactly what you are trying to say. The dude was not a good passer but he could run. That’s not what you want from your QB.
https://x.com/tomfornelli/status/1769818421665943856?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
We were talking about that skill specifically. Because he argued he couldn’t possibly be a top 5 runner at the position.
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I thought there was a pretty good chance he was staying. I never guaranteed anything.
You probably thought that it might be likely that he was staying. But you weren't shocked that he was traded. Lol, you're something else, man.
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We were talking about that skill specifically. Because he argued he couldn’t possibly be a top 5 runner at the position.
Again, so fucking what. He's a top 5 runner at quarterback. If you need me to admit that, fine. Best running quarterback in history.
Traded for a 6th round pick. Because it doesn't fucking matter. He needs to be able to play the position, and it's not obvious that he can. If it were, he would fucking still be here.
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I had hopes and optimism he was staying, but I always tried to prepare myself that he wouldn’t.
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I’ve said 50x I get the argument for moving on…
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I had hopes and optimism he was staying, but I always tried to prepare myself that he wouldn’t.
Lol
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I’ve said 50x I get the argument for moving on…
Lol
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I don’t think this is one side is right one is wrong debate. There’s more than one way to skin a cat. Or so I’m told.
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He's fucking gone. And I'm glad.
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I completely understand why the Bears would go with Caleb. It just wasn’t my preferred path.
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I don’t think this is one side is right one is wrong debate. There’s more than one way to skin a cat. Or so I’m told.
You fucking busted everyone's balls all football season about him. You were super standoffish about this shit the whole time. Now, you come with "I don't think this is one side is right one is wrong."
Fuck you, man.
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I completely understand why the Bears would go with Caleb. It just wasn’t my preferred path.
Well, it's nice that you understand. And I'm fully prepared for when you bust Caleb's balls every time he fucks up as a rookie. I can't wait.
It's quite predictable.
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I am experiencing serious lag again. I have extra windows closed . Arghhhh
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I'm not Caleb's biggest fan, and I know he could bust. Good chance of it. But I'm going to give him a chance.
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There was just so much fucking bullshit with this last football season, with the Fields crap. To come on now and act like you're a "one side isn't better than the other" guy is so disingenuous and crazy. Fucking hell.
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Well, it's nice that you understand. And I'm fully prepared for when you bust Caleb's balls every time he fucks up as a rookie. I can't wait.
It's quite predictable.
Just as you predicted my meltdown when Fields was traded. Which that meltdown didn’t come because I knew this was something with a good likelihood of happening.
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Just as you predicted my meltdown when Fields was traded. Which that meltdown didn’t come because I knew this was something with a good likelihood of happening.
I predicted you would meltdown when Fields was traded? When did that happen?
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I suspect you’ll be disappointed if you’re hoping I rant over every Caleb mistake his rookie year. I expect there will be some mistakes. Although I was promised an immediate upgrade…
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I predicted that if he stayed, you would be like an only child teenage girl from Winnetka. Insufferable. But I don't recall predicting any meltdown if he was traded.
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I suspect you’ll be disappointed if you’re hoping I rant over every Caleb mistake his rookie year. I expect there will be some mistakes. Although I was promised an immediate upgrade…
I'm not hoping you will. In fact, I'm hoping you won't if you're the football genius that you claim to be.
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I predicted that if he stayed, you would be like an only child teenage girl from Winnetka. Insufferable. But I don't recall predicting any meltdown if he was traded.
I remember it.
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And yes, there will be mistakes. Justin made a shitload of mistakes, but you were always quick to excuse them.
I don't think you'll be so quick to excuse Caleb's
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I remember it.
Ok. Find it.
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Not sure I ever said I was a genius. But I did win the Mack trade debate and called it on Chase Claypool before he was even a Bear.
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And won my fantasy league 3x in 4 years…
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That’s a joke FTR (but I did).
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I like Caleb. I hope he’s great. I also know 75% of the #1 overall guys turn out to be less than great. Sometimes even awful. I’d have preferred to build the roster and try to build Fields up by giving him better coaching and talent to work with.
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I like Caleb, but I do have some minor concerns.
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I like Caleb. I hope he’s great. I also know 75% of the #1 overall guys turn out to be less than great. Sometimes even awful. I’d have preferred to build the roster and try to build Fields up by giving him better coaching and talent to work with.
The Raiders say his coaching was good. The Falcons say his weapon/talent was good. The WHOLE NFL say he wasn’t good. Chew on that a little bit and reevaluate your stance…
They ALL said you don’t invest QB 1 money into a QB who operates like a RB1. Lamar Jackson being the exception to that rule. Field’s passing #’s are worse than Tyron Taylor’s.
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I like Caleb. I hope he’s great. I also know 75% of the #1 overall guys turn out to be less than great. Sometimes even awful. I’d have preferred to build the roster and try to build Fields up by giving him better coaching and talent to work with.
On the other side of the coin, do you waste all of that talent when you're not sure that the quarterback can play? He didn't prove that he can.
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Ok. Find it.
Nah. Just take my word for it. Or don’t. I’m not scrolling multiple possible threads and hundreds of posts for it.
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Or probably quite literally thousands of posts.
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Or probably quite literally thousands of posts.
That you made defending Fields…
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Nah. Just take my word for it. Or don’t. I’m not scrolling multiple possible threads and hundreds of posts for it.
I'm not taking your word for shit. Because I didn't say it.
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Nah. Just take my word for it. Or don’t. I’m not scrolling multiple possible threads and hundreds of posts for it.
That you made defending Fields at every opportunity…
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That you made defending Fields…
Yeah, this last fucking football season was brutal with this shit. Now, it's "there isn't one side that's right or one side that's wrong" when Poles shitcanned his boy.
Fuck that shit.
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That you made defending Fields…
And for that I MUST be castigated!
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And for that I MUST be castigated!
Well, you were an insufferable pain in the ass for an entire football season. So yes, if you get castigated here, so be it. You fucking earned it.
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And for that I MUST be castigated!
No. Just full of a lot of Justin Fields’ cum. And now you’re left holding the bukkake bag…
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Yeah, this last fucking football season was brutal with this shit. Now, it's "there isn't one side that's right or one side that's wrong" when Poles shitcanned his boy.
Fuck that shit.
I can only say so many fucking times I “get” the case for moving on from Fields. Maybe one day you guys will read that and comprehend it, but I won’t hold my breath.
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No. Just full of a lot of Justin Fields’ cum. And now you’re left holding the bukkake bag…
This was posted by a grown man. Not a 10th grader.
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I can only say so many fucking times I “get” the case for moving on from Fields. Maybe one day you guys will read that and comprehend it, but I won’t hold my breath.
Then why come on here and KEEP defending Fields, how wrong he was done, and how wrong the Bears are from actually moving on from him?!
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I can only say so many fucking times I “get” the case for moving on from Fields. Maybe one day you guys will read that and comprehend it, but I won’t hold my breath.
Yeah, you would say that shit, then make a million others talking about how everyone else is dipshits for not wanting to keep him, and you would then make excuses for him. Nah, fuck that. I can read fine.
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Well, you were an insufferable pain in the ass for an entire football season. So yes, if you get castigated here, so be it. You fucking earned it.
Tempo has a different football take and it drives me CRAZY!
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Then why come on here and KEEP defending Fields, how wrong he was done, and how wrong the Bears are from actually moving on from him?!
I get it, and I agree with it fully aren’t the same thing…
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This isn't that hard.
Poles had plenty of Fields to look at.
GMs trip over themselves to get the best qb they can get if they need one. It's a qb driven game.
GMs want their own players when they're trying to build a team.
A 6th rounder is about right for a wingback who fumbles too much.
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Tempo has a different football take and it drives me CRAZY!
It was a bad one. You and the Twitter Fields cult. Just fucking stupid. So yes, don't complain about getting castigated when you earned every bit of it.
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I don’t think I said the Bears were “wrong.” It’s just not the path I would have chosen.
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This isn't that hard.
Poles had plenty of Fields to look at.
GMs trip over themselves to get the best qb they can get if they need one. It's a qb driven game.
GMs want their own players when they're trying to build a team.
A 6th rounder is about right for a wingback who fumbles too much.
Well said.
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I don’t think I said the Bears were “wrong.” It’s just not the path I would have chosen.
Well, I'm glad you're not the GM.
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It was a bad one. You and the Twitter Fields cult. Just fucking stupid. So yes, don't complain about getting castigated when you earned every bit of it.
At least I EARNED it! Lol Tempo disagrees with me on quarterback play, he’s EARNED my scorn!
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So odd.
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I get it, and I agree with it fully aren’t the same thing…
He just ain’t the guy. If he was, Poles would’ve kept him. He didn’t (in 3 years of auditioning) get it done. Burrow, Herbert, Stroud, Luck, Lawrence, Purdy, and others elevated their team and you couldn’t say they “weren’t the guy” but you could with Fields. If after year 3 you’re doubting him, he ain’t it, man. No way you pay Fields that 5th-year option doubting if he is. Hell no and I’d say that’s even more mismanagement of a franchise than being “honorable” to “your guy.” Poles rebuilt (you yourself said he’s doing an overall good job) the roster and Fields doesn’t fit in it. If he showed enough, Poles would’ve kept him. He didn’t. And again, the whole NFL would agreed. Also the whole NFL would take Williams given the opportunity over Fields. That’s not “controversial.” While you sit here and argue over whether Fields is better than Taysom Hill. There’s your “wake up call” and answer to the conundrum you’re in…
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None of those teams purposely tanked, but I digress.
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At least I EARNED it! Lol Tempo disagrees with me on quarterback play, he’s EARNED my scorn!
You certainly did, but it's because you're a fucking asshole.
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The Niners is an especially funny example. “The team with 5 All Pros on offense; Purdy totally elevated them!”
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You certainly did, but it's because you're a fucking asshole.
Awwww, and here I thought we were buds.
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Awwww, and here I thought we were buds.
Lol
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The Niners is an especially funny example. “The team with 5 All Pros on offense; Purdy totally elevated them!”
Reply to my whole post. There’s some VERY good points in it that you seem to be missing…
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Reply to my whole post. There’s some VERY good points in it that you seem to be missing…
He won't do that. It's not his thing.
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For the record, if the Jags had the first pick “should we move on from Lawrence” would definitely be a debate they’d be having. Not saying they definitely would, but it would be a discussion.
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Reply to my whole post. There’s some VERY good points in it that you seem to be missing…
Hit me with one or two and consolidate the process for me.
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I was about to quit for the day but now my phone is typing good again. Weird.
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Hit me with one or two and consolidate the process for me.
I condensed all of my feelings into that one post regarding the situation. I took the whole time to type it out, you could at least be respectful and come up with a decent reply.
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Otherwise I’m going to resort to you guzzling his cum posts…
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All I know is that in the last two years Fields had a bottom 5 OL (bottom 12 year 2). Bottom 2 WRs (bottom 10 year 2). Bottom 5 OC. I don’t know of many if any 23-24 year old quarterbacks who overcome all of that to significantly elevate an offense with ZERO career Pro Bowlers.
Also, his defense was horrendous minus the last 8 games. And if Tyler Scott and Tonyan or Mooney make fairly routine catches, the Bears would have been 6-1 his last 7 starts.
Now my phone won’t type again. Ugh
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What Justin went through would have ruined most young QBs, but he was actually improving (albeit not as much as we wanted).
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Didn't improve as much as the GM wanted.
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Didn't improve as much as the GM wanted.
Clearly.
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All I know is that in the last two years Fields had a bottom 5 OL (bottom 12 year 2). Bottom 2 WRs (bottom 10 year 2). Bottom 5 OC. I don’t know of many if any 23-24 year old quarterbacks who overcome all of that to significantly elevate an offense with ZERO career Pro Bowlers.
Also, his defense was horrendous minus the last 8 games. And if Tyler Scott and Tonyan or Mooney make fairly routine catches, the Bears would have been 6-1 his last 7 starts.
Now my phone won’t type again. Ugh
Apparently you don't understand how tanking works after all.
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The guy who said that if they kept Fields the happiness he would experience from the resulting meltdown would have topped his happiest Christmas Day is mad that Fields being traded results in mockery of Fields Cultists. Weird.
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What Justin went through would have ruined most young QBs, but he was actually improving (albeit not as much as we wanted).
His passing yardage avg per play went down last year even with DJ Moore, didn't it?
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No. Just full of a lot of Justin Fields’ cum. And now you’re left holding the bukkake bag…
That is quite the image you constructed there
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This was posted by a grown man. Not a 10th grader.
And it was pretty funny
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Apparently you don't understand how tanking works after all.
No, I totally understand. And it wasn’t meant to be an all out tank. I don’t believe the goal was to actually lose as many games as possible. I think the goal was to win as many games as possible while also trimming the payroll as much as possible.
Probably the worst error was hiring Getsy. Or not going with an offensive HC.
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I remember getting ripped for suggesting playing to win.
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I don’t think they truly tried to lose until the last game or two when they sat Fields. No one thought we’d actually catch Houston anyway.
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I remember getting ripped for suggesting playing to win.
I would never want or ask a coach/players to go out there and try to lose on purpose. That’s not the same as a fan preferring to win one or two more mostly meaningless games so they could draft 7th instead of 1st.
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Rooting for losses in a lost season isn’t the same as suggesting players/coaches tank on PURPOSE.
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I suppose you could do both, go in on a full tank and root for losses.
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Rooting for losses in a lost season isn’t the same as suggesting players/coaches tank on PURPOSE.
You maintained the Bear were tanking including the coaches
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Front offices sometimes tank, players and coaches do not. If I know my team is going 5-12 they might as well go 3-14 in my book. If the Bears don’t get the number one pick last year they wouldn’t have everything they are about to have; including “the best prospect since Andrew Luck.”
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Front offices sometimes tank, players and coaches do not. If I know my team is going 5-12 they might as well go 3-14 in my book. If the Bears don’t get the number one pick last year they wouldn’t have everything they about to have; including “the best prospect since Andrew Luck.”
Exactly, and you’re worried about Justin Fields…
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You maintained the Bear were tanking including the coaches
I never once said the coaches were tanking. You make a lot of shit up. I said winning was not prioritized (by Poles). As evidenced by trading away Mack, Quinn, and Roquan in one season.
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The priority (Poles’) was shedding payroll and getting younger.
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Exactly, and you’re worried about Justin Fields…
Caleb may or MAY NOT be great. I’d have been very happy with a young QB I still believed in, Marvin Harrison Jr, and a boatload of premium draft capital. Either way, the Bears were a winner.
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Are you going to subscribe to TJ Sullivan's videos this year analyzing Fields holding a clipboard on the Steeler sideline?
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Nah, think I’ll stick with JT O’Sullivan. This TJ Sullivan guy sounds interesting though.
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Caleb may or MAY NOT be great. I’d have been very happy with a young QB I still believed in, Marvin Harrison Jr, and a boatload of premium draft capital. Either way, the Bears were a winner.
Well we know Fields wasn’t…
Why draft anybody?! They MIGHT BE worse than the current player…
See how stupid that sounds?! If you know the player isn’t the answer, move on. Especially at the most important position in all of sports…
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Just deleted about 30 gigs off my phone and typing like a whirlwind now.
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Nah, think I’ll stick with JT O’Sullivan. This TJ Sullivan guy sounds interesting though.
He will have some great analysis of Fields wearing sunglasses indoors while holding a clipboard.
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Well we know Fields wasn’t…
Why draft anybody?! They MIGHT BE worse than the current player…
See how stupid that sounds?! If you know the player isn’t the answer, move on. Especially at the most important position in all of sports…
We went through this as well in response to Tempo's arguments.
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I never once said the coaches were tanking. You make a lot of shit up. I said winning was not prioritized (by Poles). As evidenced by trading away Mack, Quinn, and Roquan in one season.
The priority (Poles’) was shedding payroll and getting younger.
It WaS JUsT thE fRoNt oFFicE taNkINg.
They did it on the hush hush and didn't tell the coaches or players about it.
Lol
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It WaS JUsT thE fRoNt oFFicE taNkINg.
They did it on the hush hush and didn't tell the coaches or players about it.
Lol
Wouldn't be that shocking if Enerlose didn't actually know they were tanking.
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Wouldn't be that shocking if Enerlose didn't actually know they were tanking.
Could be. Being oblivious may have saved his job.
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Interesting.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jDJ8tr0/IMG-6903.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7JPL9n35)
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He will have some great analysis of Fields wearing sunglasses indoors while holding a clipboard.
Again, as an epileptic he is sensitive to light. It’s been cited as a potential reason he fell in the draft. Bit go ahead an be an asshole, by all means.
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Well we know Fields wasn’t…
Why draft anybody?! They MIGHT BE worse than the current player…
See how stupid that sounds?! If you know the player isn’t the answer, move on. Especially at the most important position in all of sports…
You’re more convinced Fields isn’t the answer than I am. The reason I might not take a chance on a 30% hit rate on the #1 spot is because I can get a big return for that pick. I get multiple bites at the apple. You could literally end up with 4 or 5 starters for one 30% hit rate pick.
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I find myself liking Caleb when I hear him speak. Am I head over heels for him yet? No. But I may get there. It’s just going to take some time.
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I find myself liking Caleb when I hear him speak. Am I head over heels for him yet? No. But I may get there. It’s just going to take some time.
You sound like you just got broken up with and are backing dating again, but not quite healed yet. It’s, umm, weird…
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Again, as an epileptic he is sensitive to light. It’s been cited as a potential reason he fell in the draft. Bit go ahead an be an asshole, by all means.
Oh yeah, we always saw him wearing shades. Except we only saw him do that when he was passed over for a start. In LA. In an indoor stadium.
The bright lights for the Dunkin commercials didn't seem to phase him.
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You sound like you just got broken up with and are backing dating again, but not quite healed yet. It’s, umm, weird…
You sound like you’re way too concerned with my personal feelings on the whole thing. It’s, umm, weird.
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Oh yeah, we always saw him wearing shades. Except we only saw him do that when he was passed over for a start. In LA. In an indoor stadium.
The bright lights for the Dunkin commercials didn't seem to phase him.
He literally wore a dark visor on his helmet.
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It's so the defense can't see him looking confused about what the defense is.
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He literally wore a dark visor on his helmet.
Missed him wearing shades on the sideline as the defense had to deal with one of his fumbles, interceptions, or stalled drives.
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You sound like you’re way too concerned with my personal feelings on the whole thing. It’s, umm, weird.
But I’m 100% accurate on those said “personal” feelings…
And again, sir, that is weird!
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But I’m 100% accurate on those said “personal” feelings…
And again, sir, that is weird!
So is your concern!
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But then again, you’re also super concerned about who uses what bathroom. So that checks out.
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It WaS JUsT thE fRoNt oFFicE taNkINg.
They did it on the hush hush and didn't tell the coaches or players about it.
Lol
You really think the GM is going to gather the players around and divulge a plan “to tank?”
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That GM would be out of the league in 6 minutes.
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If you could see they were tanking, and advocating it, I'm sure the players could see it too.
Unless they had their colored visors on.
smdh
It's ok to tank. Just don't tell the employees.
Lol
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Again, I don’t think the losing was ON PURPOSE at any point. It was a byproduct of tearing down the roster. Even when they held Fields out the last game I’m confident no one told the players to “go out there and lose one for the Gipper.”
You are very dense when it comes to this subject.
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There is a difference (a big difference) between not prioritizing winning and losing ON PURPOSE. The White Sox have perfected this art
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Lol
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Trust me, if an NFL GM divulged a plan to lose games to his coaches/players, that would create a news story that would make the NBA ref point shaving scandal look like the opening of a new children’s playground on Main Street.
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It's so the defense can't see him looking confused about what the defense is.
I chortled.
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I'm sure the rest of the Bear were oblivious to what was happening at the time.
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I'm sure the rest of the Bear were oblivious to what was happening at the time.
Correct 🤣
It was not in a memo or in a speech to the underlings.
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It's so the defense can't see him looking confused about what the defense is.
This comment made me look for the applaud button and I do not see it anymore.
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And now the Jayden Daniels talk is starting to spike. Maybe the Bears do trade down, afterall?
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And now the Jayden Daniels talk is starting to spike. Maybe the Bears do trade down, afterall?
They cannot go down far, can they? The Patriot is, allegedly, interested in him at the 3, right?
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Again, as an epileptic he is sensitive to light. It’s been cited as a potential reason he fell in the draft. Bit go ahead an be an asshole, by all means.
He wears a dark visor.
From your Cole Kmet crying story. 😭😭
(https://i.ibb.co/989dVTw/1-chicago-bears-celebrates-cole-74106517.jpg)
(https://ibb.co/VjWkQSH)
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They cannot go down far, can they? The Patriot is, allegedly, interested in him at the 3, right?
It's a smoke screen. They want the UNC guy at the #2 pick.
Again. Lol
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He wears a dark visor.
From your Cole Kmet crying story. 😭😭
(https://i.ibb.co/989dVTw/1-chicago-bears-celebrates-cole-74106517.jpg)
(https://ibb.co/VjWkQSH)
I believe he switched at some point this past season.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9fCXpC09/IMG-6906.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/87XVk8hk)lightshot (https://postimages.org/)
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I believe he had a clear visor this past season.
"Cole Kmet (l) and Justin Fields (r) celebrate in December 2023."
Getty Images
1 picture is a game day visor. The other picture isn't.
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I believe he switched mid season.
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I believe he switched mid season.
He went from tinted to clear mid-season ?
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I believe so.
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"Fans of the Chicago Bears cannot get enough of rookie Justin Fields’ new look.
The 22-year-old quarterback doesn’t have to do too much to get Bears Twitter in a tizzy these days, and he set social media on fire this week with his latest uniform addition: a tinted visor. Fields’ friend, photographer Simeon Kelley, initially shared the photos of Fields sporting a visor on Instagram. The pics went viral in a hurry."
😍😍
"A league partnership with Oakley in 2019 has reintroduced visors slightly tinted with Prizm Lens Technology, but the one Fields is sporting in recent viral photos won’t be allowed when game days roll around this fall."
https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/justin-fields-helmet-visor-look/
😂😂
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(https://i.ibb.co/pRXD9tk/Screenshot-20240320-045011-Chrome.jpg)
It's the last one with the Bear helmet anyway. Save $3.
gt!! (https://ibb.co/fn0RPhT)
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We only got 10 total wins out of Justin Fields in 3 total years. I think Caleb Williams can do that. Fields’ ceiling is Williams’ floor. And the Fields’ cultists are demanding that he do that in his first year alone. They are delusional as fuck! No rookie QB has ever won 10 games in his rookie season. I do think Williams leads us to the playoffs though this year. I’ll be ok with more than the 7 wins we got this year though. Those cultists are realistic.
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We only got 10 total wins out of Justin Fields in 3 total years.
It took me this long to deduce that this is not a serious post worth considering.
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It took me this long to deduce that this is not a serious post worth considering.
Which tells us you have no coherent retort.
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Which tells us you have no coherent retort.
It’s a shit take. And disingenuous. No need for an actual response.
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Which tells us you have no coherent retort.
Still waiting on you to tell us what “Troy Aikman was wrong” about.
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It’s a shit take. And disingenuous. No need for an actual response.
Except it's true. And even Poles figured it out.
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Caleb is going to be on with Cowherd today according to the Cowherd Twitter account.
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Also thought I heard the USC pro day would be on the NFL Network.
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What the hell is NFL+?
https://www.nfl.com/news/watch-caleb-williams-pro-day-live-on-nfl-at-1-30-p-m-et
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Lol
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We only got 10 total wins out of Justin Fields in 3 total years. I think Caleb Williams can do that. Fields’ ceiling is Williams’ floor. And the Fields’ cultists are demanding that he do that in his first year alone. They are delusional as fuck! No rookie QB has ever won 10 games in his rookie season. I do think Williams leads us to the playoffs though this year. I’ll be ok with more than the 7 wins we got this year though. Those cultists are realistic.
You’ve had a lot of bad posts, but man this one is elite.
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You’ve had a lot of bad posts, but man this one is elite.
Except I’ve been the one right on all of them. You just think they’re bad because you are wrong and a Fields’ cultist. Explain to me what’s “bad” about them exactly?! The whole NFL has spoken on the issue, yet you refuse to see. 😂 tisk tisk
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Except I’ve been the one right on all of them. You just think they’re bad because you are wrong and a Fields’ cultist. Explain to me what’s “bad” about them exactly?! The whole NFL has spoken on the issue, yet you refuse to see. 😂 tisk tisk
Are you day drinking/drunk? This barely makes sense no matter how you unscramble it.
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Maybe, but you’re fucking delusional! Justin Fields sucked at playing QB for the Bears for 3 years. That’s a fact. Again, I already shared the Tyrod Taylor comparison stats. If he showed any inclination of being “H1M” then Piles would’ve kept him. Also others in the NFL would’ve traded for him. Plain and fucking simple!
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We only got 10 total wins out of Justin Fields in 3 total years. I think Caleb Williams can do that. Fields’ ceiling is Williams’ floor. And the Fields’ cultists are demanding that he do that in his first year alone. They are delusional as fuck! No rookie QB has ever won 10 games in his rookie season. I do think Williams leads us to the playoffs though this year. I’ll be ok with more than the 7 wins we got this year though. Those cultists are realistic.
How many 2nd year quarterbacks are going to take a completely gutted team and “win” with them? The team as a whole sucked balls until midseason last year. If Scott, Mooney, and Tonyan could catch the Bears would have went 6-1 Fields’ last 7 games.
So what’s the “expectation” for Williams? More than 7 or the playoffs? BTW the team they will be fielding next year is far superior to any the previous years (spare me the “yeah mostly at quarterback” that is sure to be coming). Regardless of who the quarterback is, this is a far superior team to the one Fields played on.
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Now, YOU DROP IT!
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Maybe, but you’re fucking delusional! Justin Fields sucked at playing QB for the Bears for 3 years. That’s a fact. Again, I already shared the Tyrod Taylor comparison stats. If he showed any inclination of being “H1M” then Piles would’ve kept him. Also others in the NFL would’ve traded for him. Plain and fucking simple!
So rushing production doesn’t matter? The Chargers thought Tyrod was the better start until someone poked him in the lung with a needle.
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Now, YOU DROP IT!
You’re the one continuing to post Fields stuff. I’m trying to focus on upcoming season and the draft.
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So rushing production doesn’t matter? The Chargers thought Tyrod was the better start until someone poked him in the lung with a needle.
Sure, dude. This above is the reason people think you’re delusional. If Fields showed anything close to what Herbert has, he’d still be here. The #1 job of the QB is to THROW the ball. There’s RB’s to run the damn thing for a reason. And I can certainly say the whole NFL agrees with me, not you.
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Great to see!
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1770493783492202834?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Tua “throws the ball” about as well as anyone, and a lot of people in Miami want to get rid of him.
You speak off of what you think you know. You don’t know exactly what happened with the Fields trade. Poles seemed to have misplayed his hand. No one here is trying to say Fields was a perfectly rounded starting QB.
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Here’s what I know. I’m trying to move on from arguing Justin Fields. It’s over. Your side won. He’s gone. But you and PAMan keep wanting to rehash everything.
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Tua “throws the ball” about as well as anyone, and a lot of people in Miami want to get rid of him.
You speak off of what you think you know. You don’t know exactly what happened with the Fields trade. Poles seemed to have misplayed his hand. No one here is trying to say Fields was a perfectly rounded starting QB.
Actually the whole NFL said he is a back up…
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Here’s what I know. I’m trying to move on from arguing Justin Fields. It’s over. Your side won. He’s gone. But you and PAMan keep wanting to rehash everything.
If only the shoe was on the other foot it would beat your best Christmas ever.
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Here’s what I know. I’m trying to move on from arguing Justin Fields. It’s over. Your side won. He’s gone. But you and PAMan keep wanting to rehash everything.
This is funny as fuck
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This is funny as fuck
Why? Justin is gone. I am not crying about it. PAMan and JJ are the ones who want to keep talking about him, and they can’t even make posts that are worth taking seriously when they do.
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Actually the whole NFL said he is a back up…
Not exactly. But if you want to run with that, go ahead. The “whole NFL” passed on 2023 MVP Lamar Jackson when he hit the market, too.
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Come on man. You’ve been arguing about this for months in hundreds of collective pages of posts and you don’t think the guys you’ve been arguing with are going to take a victory lap or two at your expense? You’re nuts.
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Come on man. You’ve been arguing about this for months in hundreds of collective pages of posts and you don’t think the guys you’ve been arguing with are going to take a victory lap or two at your expense? You’re nuts.
I’d expect better quality victory laps than “Troy Aikman was wrong (about what?)” And JJ acting like winning with the 2022 Bears and the 2024 are equal tasks.
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I’m sure that if the Bears traded the pick Tempo would be like “okay it’s time to move on” 4 days later.
What’s that? He has brought up his intentional misrepresentation of an argument I made 6+ years ago unbidden in the last 6 months to laughably try to dunk on me for it?
Of course you want to move on. If I’d been saying shit like “the fact no team wants Fields makes me more sure I’m right because these GMs don’t know shit” (plus obviously a hundred equally hilarious takes) I’d want to move on quickly and quietly too.
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What do you think about Harrison skipping his pro day?
I’ve heard that sort of thing is a huge red flag. Maybe he’ll fall to us at 9!
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Not exactly. But if you want to run with that, go ahead. The “whole NFL” passed on 2023 MVP Lamar Jackson when he hit the market, too.
Lamar Jackson, who signed a contract with $185,000,000 guaranteed?
What the fuck are you talking about?
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If they want to continue to argue it, fine. But tell them to up their game a little bit. They (and you) better hope Caleb is a star.
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If they want to continue to argue it, fine. But tell them to up their game a little bit. They (and you) better hope Caleb is a star.
Why?
Do you suddenly have expectations that the QB actually play good football?
Who’d have seen that coming?
I’m sure if Caleb sucks you won’t bring it up since you just want to move on.
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“Troy Aikman was wrong, about what I won’t say.”
And JJ acts likes he’s drunk today. A couple of his posts have been laughable.
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Why?
Do you suddenly have expectations that the QB actually play good football?
Who’d have seen that coming?
I’m sure if Caleb sucks you won’t bring it up since you just want to move on.
Again, there is no shortage of NFL players current/and former who think Justin can play, but I’m sure their opinions carry less weight than a small board full of Internet nerds.
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Again, there is no shortage of NFL players current/and former who think Justin can play, but I’m sure their opinions carry less weight than a small board full Internet nerds.
Beautiful.
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Beautiful.
They are stupid, you are no doubt the smart one.
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No those takes have obviously aged beautifully the last few months.
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He turned 25 last week. I’m not sure this is over.
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Justin isn’t that much older than a few of the quarterbacks about to be taken 1st round.
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is next season just going to be you saying "JUSTIN COULD HAVE MADE THAT THROW/READ/RUN" posts?
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Again, there is no shortage of NFL players current/and former who think Justin can play, but I’m sure their opinions carry less weight than a small board full of Internet nerds.
And who cares what the actual NFL GM’s think, huh?!
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is next season just going to be you saying "JUSTIN COULD HAVE MADE THAT THROW/READ/RUN" posts?
Doubtful. He’s gone. He’s not coming back.
I will say I think Justin is the starter in Pittsburgh by week 9.
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And who cares what the actual NFL GM’s think, huh?!
The same ones who all passed on Lamar?
It was a bad year to have a Justin Fields on the market. Strong FA class (rare), very strong draft (some say best in decades?). Why give up significant draft capital when you can just sign one or draft one. Poles probably overplayed his hand. It’s also been reported Justin had suitors but wanted Pittsburgh and Poles honored that wish.
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I absolutely love the “the whole league passed on Lamar Jackson when he signed for $185m guaranteed” take.
God damn is that a winner
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I absolutely love the “the whole league passed on Lamar Jackson when he signed for $185m guaranteed” take.
God damn is that a winner
Only one team was interested.
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Yeah, you can tell by the amount of money he got.
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The same ones who all passed on Lamar?
It was a bad year to have a Justin Fields on the market. Strong FA class (rare), very strong draft (some say best in decades?). Why give up significant draft capital when you can just sign one or draft one. Poles probably overplayed his hand. It’s also been reported Justin had suitors but wanted Pittsburgh and Poles honored that wish.
That he wasn’t better than those other options is very telling. Isn’t it?!
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That he wasn’t better than those other options is very telling. Isn’t it?!
Not particularly. I’ve never tried to say he’s a top 5 quarterback.
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Not particularly. I’ve never tried to say he’s a top 5 quarterback.
I think that’s exactly what a “potential MVP candidate” is. Don’t you when you said it?!
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I think he’s a mid-tier quarterback who can still get a lot better with time, coaching, and talent upgrades.
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I think that’s exactly what a “potential MVP candidate” is. Don’t you when you said it?!
Wut.
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Wut.
Oh you didn’t say that before going into this season?! 😂 get the fuck outta here with your bullshit…
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You seem to be confusing “potential” with “is.”
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Caleb Williams has MVP “potential.” I wouldn’t have any clue where he ranks among NFL quarterbacks at the moment. Probably not top 5.
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Justin Fields has not progressed as rapidly as I would like. I also don’t think that means he can’t get better, or won’t.
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What do you think about Harrison skipping his pro day?
I’ve heard that sort of thing is a huge red flag. Maybe he’ll fall to us at 9!
Attention Tempo. Calling Tempo and his mules to reply to this very important question…
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What do you think about Harrison skipping his pro day?
I’ve heard that sort of thing is a huge red flag. Maybe he’ll fall to us at 9!
I’d be disappointed to hear that, but it wouldn’t really change anything for me unless I had other concerns about his character/makeup. If I had any prior concerns, it could be something that moves the needle for me. If there was nothing else that concerned me, it would be a non-issue.
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My mules?
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Did you mean my mults?
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My mules?
Mults. My apologies, autocorrect changed it and I didn’t catch it.
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I haven’t posted under a mult in probably 4 months.
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Maybe longer.
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Did you mean my mults?
I was wrong, ok! I admitted my mistake! What more do you want from me?! Drop it, ok?! Like damn, it wasn’t my fault, it was autocorrect! Stop it already! Move on!
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I was wrong, ok! I admitted my mistake! What more do you want from me?! Drop it, ok?! Like damn, it wasn’t my fault, it was autocorrect! Stop it already! Move on!
I’m disappointed I didn’t get the invite to go day drinking. My kid and his mother left for Florida for 13 days so I was available.
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Also, are teams waiting on Harrison’s medicals?
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Also, are teams waiting on Harrison’s medicals?
No, but he’s the kid of an NFL HOF, so you could say that might be a red flag. I mean a bratty kid who got everything handed to him?! That could be a concern that he doesn’t do it because he loves it.
😂 I don’t believe any of what I stated above, but see how anybody could “spin” anything to fit their narrative. What if Colin Cowherd or a national media person threw that out there to effect a player. Hell it just happened with Johnny Newton from Illinois with a person throwing out there was rumors he was “hard to coach.” It might cause him to potentially fall in the draft because of it with absolutely no truth to it at all.
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His dad being a top 5 WR all-time is anything but a red flag to me.
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Just as Peyton Manning’s dad being Archie made me more confident Peyton was a can’t miss.
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I was using it as a ridiculous thing to throw out whatever you want to make a red flag. Hence what everybody was doing regarding Caleb Williams. And nobody more so than you and your Fields’ cultists.
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I’m far from the only one who has concerns about Caleb Williams’ maturity. And citing “possible” red flags doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s not a terrific prospect.
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“Possible red flag” does not equal “damnation.” It just means that’s a potential area for scrutiny. Which you guys seem pretty averse to.
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I’m far from the only one who has concerns about Caleb Williams’ maturity. And citing “possible” red flags doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s not a terrific prospect.
No, every other Fields dude in Greg Gabriel’s replies also does
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No, every other Fields dude in Greg Gabriel’s replies also does
Okerrr…
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No, every other Fields dude in Greg Gabriel’s replies also does
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Unless Greg Gabriel is the entire “scouting community?”
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“Possible red flag” does not equal “damnation.” It just means that’s a potential area for scrutiny. Which you guys seem pretty averse to.
https://x.com/patmcafeeshow/status/1770519550603169985?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Do you think Josh Lucas is a credible source?
My guess is when he was talking about how Fields was standoffish and not a great teammate as a rookie you didn’t think so.
But credibility, to you, seems to mean “he agrees with me on the topic at hand” so maybe that’s changed now that he speaks for “the entire scouting community”?
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https://x.com/patmcafeeshow/status/1770519550603169985?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Hilarious stuff.
https://x.com/_marcusd3_/status/1729554977239044535?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Anyway yeah we’ve discussed the massive red flags here ad nauseum obviously.
Paints his nails.
Cries when he loses.
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Anyway yeah we’ve discussed the massive red flags here ad nauseum obviously.
Paints his nails.
Cries when he loses.
Those aren’t it for me.
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I’m far from the only one who has concerns about Caleb Williams’ maturity. And citing “possible” red flags doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s not a terrific prospect.
With Justin out of the picture, I’m taking Caleb (if I’m Bears GM) FTR.
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Those aren’t it for me.
Right - forgot “car’s too nice”.
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Right - forgot “car’s too nice”.
A point of interest. That should be followed up on. There are bigger red flags. Keep the strawmans and things I never said coming.
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You never said the thing about his car?
Do you have CTE or something? Jesus
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Hilarious stuff.
https://x.com/_marcusd3_/status/1729554977239044535?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
I’m not saying Fields was ever a bad teammate or not loved by his.
I’m posting that because YOU specifically have used that trope against Williams on this board as a “red flag.”
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But yeah, it’s just me and the Greg Gabriel bros.
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But yeah, it’s just me and the Greg Gabriel bros.
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Okay, you’re trolling now.
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You never said the thing about his car?
Do you have CTE or something? Jesus
Where did I say I didn’t mention his car. I said I would do some work to see if money has changed him at all. I didn’t say “his car is too nice, don’t draft him.”
And then a few days later I heard Wannstedt say teams literally hire investigators to help them get information on top prospects.
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Hahahahahaha
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Okay, you’re trolling now.
Just showing proof it’s not just “Greg Gabriel’s Twitter feed.”
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Hahahahahaha
You’re like PAMan on one of his bad days right now. Flailing.
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No also Colin Cowherd’s podcast - really showed me.
The credible media voices
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You’re like PAMan on one of his bad days right now. Flailing.
Hahaha sorry, -I- am flailing?
Not the “come on guys let’s just move on”, “Colin Cowherd agrees with me” guy?
Hahahaha wow. Have obviously been giving you too much credit all these years.
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Hahaha sorry, -I- am flailing?
Not the “come on guys let’s just move on”, “Colin Cowherd agrees with me” guy?
Hahahaha wow. Have obviously been giving you too much credit all these years.
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Do you think Josh Lucas is a credible source?
My guess is when he was talking about how Fields was standoffish and not a great teammate as a rookie you didn’t think so.
But credibility, to you, seems to mean “he agrees with me on the topic at hand” so maybe that’s changed now that he speaks for “the entire scouting community”?
You laughed off my comment about red flags basically being confined to Greg Gabriel’s Twitter feed. I offered up several other mentions of red flags from other sources, and you laughed them off, too. We’re back to the “Who’s a football expert? Nobody!” argument again. No one or no story is credible unless Spark deems it so.
Are Josh Lucas, Greg Gabriel, Colin Cowherd, and multiple other news/scouting sources “credible?” No. But the schleps at HQ2 are!
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Not credible!
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/caleb-williams-red-flags-explained-father-agent/ebdb755e7ba9096db47e46a2
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This is old(ish) but more “red flag” talk from an of course “not credible” source!
https://firstroundmock.com/2023/10/red-flags-on-caleb-williams/
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And again, having a few “red flags” doesn’t necessarily mean someone is “bad guy!” or unworthy of his draft position. It just means he’s got some issues that are worth scrutinizing. Refusing to talk with the media after losses for example. How will that go over should that happen in the pros? To me, the biggest concern is his dad.
Caleb is a bit of a maverick, and in some ways I respect that. But honestly, for MY team, I’d RATHER just have the guy who will give you his medicals the same way everyone else does.
And FTR, if I’m Ryan Poles, I’m drafting Caleb Williams in April minus a startling bombshell. So let’s just get that straight.
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Thanks for the clickbait.
Whoever doesn't get to draft him will be better off without him.
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32 NFL franchises/GM’s would select Williams over Fields given the opportunity. Let’s just get that outta the way and straight.
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Thanks for the clickbait.
Whoever doesn't get to draft him will be better off without him.
Wut
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Wut
I thanked you for the clickbait and said that the teams that don't draft Williams won't have to concern themselves with all of the red flags.
Did you forget what you had just posted ?
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I thanked you for the clickbait and said that the teams that don't draft Williams won't have to concern themselves with all of the red flags.
Did you forget what you had just posted ?
Did you skip over the part where I said if I’m Ryan Poles I would draft Caleb Williams?
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You laughed off my comment about red flags basically being confined to Greg Gabriel’s Twitter feed. I offered up several other mentions of red flags from other sources, and you laughed them off, too. We’re back to the “Who’s a football expert? Nobody!” argument again. No one or no story is credible unless Spark deems it so.
Are Josh Lucas, Greg Gabriel, Colin Cowherd, and multiple other news/scouting sources “credible?” No. But the schleps at HQ2 are!
A lost of all the guys who were wrong. Except Troy Aikman.
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Did you skip over the part where I said if I’m Ryan Poles I would draft Caleb Williams?
And what does that have to do with all of the other teams that wouldn't have to concern themselves with the red flags ?
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A lost of all the guys who were wrong. Except Troy Aikman.
Really poor trolling efforts. But then that’s your new norm. Has been for a while. What was Troy “wrong” about? Maybe one of these days you’ll answer that question.
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And what does that have to do with all of the other teams that wouldn't have to concern themselves with the red flags ?
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A lot of interesting stuff in here. Where they failed Justin, what they can do to help Caleb. One thing I thought stood out “19 offensive line changes in two years” under Eberflus. That is nuts. You cannot convince me that any team with zero pro bowlers and 19 OL changes in two years was getting quality line play. No chance.
Will be very interesting to see what the Bears do at 9. I am warming to the idea of Brian Thomas Jr. I really think they need to go WR or Bowers unless Alt is there (unlikely). I would not spend that pick on defense.
A trade down at 9 (especially if the top 3 WRs are gone) is appealing, but you have to have someone who wants that pick and is willing to give you a good price for it. 9-10 is where things open up so unless someone is in love with a player there not sure a trade down will be there. I wouldn’t be opposed to adding BrendenRice. If they don’t add a receiver before that I think you’d almost have to draft him.
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/amp/how_the_bears_can_support_caleb_williams_even_more/s1_16634_40138697
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Red flag!
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Just throwing this out there…
https://x.com/chicago_nfl/status/1771209407478612059?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/law-students-suit-alleges-chicago-bears-didnt-hire-him-as-legal-diversity-fellow-because-he-is-a-white-male
A job posting emailed in November 2023 said the Chicago Bears team was looking for a “person of color and/or female law student,” according to the suit. Bresser applied, intending to submit his grades as a supplement to his application when they became available, as the job posting allowed.
Bresser was rejected Jan. 5, before he submitted his grades. The previous month, Bresser said, he received a notification that his LinkedIn profile had been viewed by a Chicago Bears employee. The LinkedIn profile included a photo.
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Brilliant 😂
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No wonder Tempo is such a huge Bears fan
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The war against white men must stop.
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Sounds like shit stupid DEI based franchises that lose a lot of games would do
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Sounds like shit stupid DEI based franchises that lose a lot of games would do
It takes a special skill to also set franchise records.
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https://x.com/herbhoward411/status/1773039991829999957?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Explain.
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Oof…
https://x.com/barstoolchief/status/1773108409027469763?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Is trying to improve the Bears’ relationship with the black community a bad thing?
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I guess not.
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Da Bears ......
Say what Goodell expects you to say.
Meanwhile ....
"In addition to the Chicago Bears' corporate entity, Bresser's suit names as defendants several named and unnamed individual employees. They include the team's senior vice president of diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, ......."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/white-male-law-student-sues-chicago-bears-for-race-sex-discrimination/ar-BB1jME9G
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Is trying to improve the Bears’ relationship with the black community a bad thing?
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They could improve their relationship with the entire community by winning football games
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They could improve their relationship with the entire community by winning football games
Lulz
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Da Bears ......
Say what Goodell expects you to say.
Meanwhile ....
"In addition to the Chicago Bears' corporate entity, Bresser's suit names as defendants several named and unnamed individual employees. They include the team's senior vice president of diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, ......."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/white-male-law-student-sues-chicago-bears-for-race-sex-discrimination/ar-BB1jME9G
We must end the war on white men, and the war on Christians.
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They could improve their relationship with the entire community by winning football games
There's no room for this kind of outside-the-box strategy around these parts.
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Look who I saw on the front page of the Bears subreddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/1bwrkzy/ok_lol/
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I also saw in the comments
"User avatar
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2 hr. ago
That is the Wayne Whitlock that Hoge called out the other day lol"
Any insight on that Tempo? Really making a name for yourself lately
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Look who I saw on the front page of the Bears subreddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/1bwrkzy/ok_lol/
😂
Devastating
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Look who I saw on the front page of the Bears subreddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/1bwrkzy/ok_lol/
I saw that and was gonna post that here, but I figured you’d call me out for being an asshole or you’d bash on me.
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Devastating.
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I also saw in the comments
"User avatar
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alexamerling100
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2 hr. ago
That is the Wayne Whitlock that Hoge called out the other day lol"
Any insight on that Tempo? Really making a name for yourself lately
No recollection of being “called out” by Adam Hoge. Hoge is one of the douchiest Bears reporters out there, though. Can totally see why Olin might have picked him up by the neck.
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Let’s get to the meat of the matter, though. Anyone take major issue with what I said? DJ and Keenan are not top 10 guys, but both top 30 guys. Easily.
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I think Alexa is confusing me with someone else. I can’t recall a direct dialogue with Hoge.
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RightRingThing has a question .......
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Again, who wants to focus on the important part? Does anyone take issue with DJ and Keenan not being top 10 but both top 30 receivers (easily). Is this a MAJOR point of contention by anyone here?
Online Bears fans are upset someone said a Bears receiver wasn’t a “top 10” guy.. Shocking…
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Again, who wants to focus on the important part? Does anyone take issue with DJ and Keenan not being top 10 but both top 30 receivers (easily). Is this a MAJOR point of contention by anyone here?
Online Bears fans are upset someone said a Bears receiver wasn’t a “top 10” guy.. Shocking…
I think you could make a case for both being top-10 production guys.
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I don’t think that’s the point the argument strung from. O’Sullivan is talking about top talent and production IMO. And that is definitely what I was talking about. Adam Theilen caught for 1000 yards last year, no one thinks he’s still a high end receiver. He’s just the best guy on a team who didn’t have much.
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RightRingThing has a question .......
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Back to your old tricks I see. Cheap shots and no substance.
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Back to your old tricks I see. Cheap shots and no substance.
I highly doubt no one is on reddit, on the bears sub of all places
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Back to your old tricks I see. Cheap shots and no substance.
It wasn't me that asked the question.
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Again, who wants to focus on the important part?
The "Are you stupid" question?
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It wasn't me that asked the question.
But you made sure to make notice of it.
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So in a nutshell, Spark found someone quoted me on Reddit making a very non-controversial statement (except among online Beardsom), and that’s a real gotcha moment, huh? Boy, you guys really flame-broiled me here. Good job, HQ.
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So in a nutshell, Spark found someone quoted me on Reddit making a very non-controversial statement (except among online Beardsom), and that’s a real gotcha moment, huh? Boy, you guys really flame-broiled me here. Good job, HQ.
The asking if you were stupid is pretty funny.
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The asking if you were stupid is pretty funny.
I suppose, if you’re new to online Bearsdom.
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https://youtu.be/l5qikzT6SHI
"Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." gt!!
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https://youtu.be/l5qikzT6SHI
"Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." gt!!
Holy shit that’s pure gold! Tempo is famous! That video (although not done in first-person) might just top Dom’s as the most damning in board history!
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That is pretty funny. He also sounds like Spark hugging Caleb’s nuts and protecting him from all would be criticism. Also easy to sit there and rip someone who doesn’t even know he’s being ripped (and doesn’t have a chance to respond). That is classic though. Not surprised Mn is the one who found it.
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😂😂😂😂😂
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Holy shit that’s pure gold! Tempo is famous! That video (although not done in first-person) might just top Dom’s as the most damning in board history!
Devastating.
And damning…
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Again, no problem with him attending a golf tournament. But at the time, the Bears were waiting on him and his medicals. And I’ll say it again…if I’m Ryan Poles, I’m drafting Caleb Williams at the end of this month.
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My bad for not heaping praise over Caleb Williams for literally everything he does! MY BAD!
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If Hoge is bitching about me, It means I’m pushing the correct buttons. That guy is as smug as it gets.
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I’m sure that’s why Olin Kreutz nearly ripped his head from his neck.
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Also…
Devastating.
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Again, no problem with him attending a golf tournament. But at the time, the Bears were waiting on him and his medicals. And I’ll say it again…if I’m Ryan Poles, I’m drafting Caleb Williams at the end of this month.
You’re the only one worried about his medicals. The Bears have no worries about them I’m sure and Caleb was always 100% gonna be a Bear as soon as we had the #1 pick. I mean unless he’s got cancer or AIDS or something. Come on dude, you’re reaching.
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Again, if I’m Ryan Poles I’m drafting Caleb Williams. And that’s been a certainty since they traded Justin. The ONLY barrier to that were his medicals being a major uh oh. Which the Bears didn’t have yet. Everyone is so sensitive to any level of criticism. I’m still drafting Caleb Williams #1 and not really thinking twice about it.
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You’re the only one worried about his medicals. The Bears have no worries about them I’m sure and Caleb was always 100% gonna be a Bear as soon as we had the #1 pick. I mean unless he’s got cancer or AIDS or something. Come on dude, you’re reaching.
How do we know he doesn’t have cancer or AIDS without his medicals?
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A major part of my criticism stems from this being the ramping up of his Bears career as their future franchise quarterback. I would prefer to see a guy prioritize the business of the Chicago Bears (and then feel free to attend a golf tournament). Is it a “deal breaker?” No.
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Appreciate Hoge getting my name out there, though! Again, if I’m on the opposite side of Adam Hoge, I don’t feel bad about it.
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Looks like Hoge, and Mn, have pushed someone's buttons.
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Nah, I’m getting a kick out of how damning and devastating this is.
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Now that you are aware of people elsewhere noting your bad takes as we do here, have you taken to The Twotter for your revenge?
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Now that you are aware of people elsewhere noting your bad takes as we do here, have you taken to The Twotter for your revenge?
No. Some dude with a huge Caleb man crush and a YouTube channel roasted Tempo and a handful of others for mildly criticizing Caleb. He is a HERO and a national treasure. There will be no Adam Hoge slander here.
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Now that you are aware of people elsewhere noting your bad takes as we do here, have you taken to The Twotter for your revenge?
Says the guy who slammed Justin Fields for attending a few Bulls games.
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Ryan Poles: “Hey Caleb, can we get your medicals? We’re waiting.”
Caleb: “Nah bro, at a golf tournament. You’ll have to wait. Other important stuff going on.”
Ryan Poles: *Sigh* “Ok, but I’m still drafting you.”
Caleb: “Yeah, I know. If you don’t love me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.”
Ryan Poles: *Sigh* “We’ll be here.”
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Says the guy who slammed Justin Fields for attending a few Bulls games.
The Bear 2024 1st round pick has not even been drafted yet. Tough to slam him for not reading a playbook he does not even have. Unlike Sh1t QB1.
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Ryan Poles: “Hey Caleb, can we get your medicals? We’re waiting.”
Caleb: “Nah bro, at a golf tournament. You’ll have to wait. Other important stuff going on.”
Ryan Poles: *Sigh* “Ok, but I’m still drafting you.”
Caleb: “Yeah, I know. If you don’t love me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.”
Ryan Poles: *Sigh* “We’ll be here.”
Did you post this on The Twotter and The RedDit?
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The Bear 2024 1st round pick has not even been drafted yet. Tough to slam him for not reading a playbook he does not even have. Unlike Sh1t QB1.
According to everyone with an opinion, Justin Fields’ work ethic wasn’t a problem. I don’t expect him to be elbow deep in the playbook every waking hour. According to everyone with knowledge he put in the work.
Meanwhile, regarding Caleb, making sure the franchise he’s in line to LEAD gets his medicals was literally his only pressing obligation. But he couldn’t be bothered until he was ready.
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According to everyone with an opinion, Justin Fields’ work ethic wasn’t a problem. I don’t expect him to be elbow deep in the playbook every waking hour. According to everyone with knowledge he put in the work.
Meanwhile, regarding Caleb, making sure the franchise he’s in line to LEAD gets his medicals was literally his only pressing obligation. But he couldn’t be bothered until he was ready.
Well, hopefully CW is better at studying the playbook as Sh1t QB1 fucking sucked at it. Dude must have actually been studying the Bible instead.
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Looks like Hoge and the guys on the RedDit had fun mocking your bad take on the CW.
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Says the guy who slammed Justin Fields for attending a few Bulls games.
You can’t do that when you suck…
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You can’t do that when you suck…
Wut.
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Wut.
He didn't stutter.
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He didn't stutter.
Wut.
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Wut.
Apparently he needs to type slower.
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So in a nutshell, Spark found someone quoted me on Reddit making a very non-controversial statement (except among online Beardsom), and that’s a real gotcha moment, huh? Boy, you guys really flame-broiled me here. Good job, HQ.
FWIW I didn’t think it was a gotcha on you at all. I agree with your post. Just thought it was funny to see a guy I know being talked about in another space I cursorily follow
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I also find the golf tournament thing hilarious and extremely on brand to the sudden (and completely expected) 180 in standards you expect from the Bears’ presumptive QB.
Hopefully you can at least acknowledge that you defended Fields’ mediocre play for years and now have spent the entirety of this past season and offseason searching for any tiny thing to criticize Caleb Williams for.
Not a single one of these things matters. What matters is whether he wins games and plays well.
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Again, if I’m Ryan Poles I’m drafting Caleb Williams. And that’s been a certainty since they traded Justin. The ONLY barrier to that were his medicals being a major uh oh. Which the Bears didn’t have yet. Everyone is so sensitive to any level of criticism. I’m still drafting Caleb Williams #1 and not really thinking twice about it.
I don’t think people are sensitive to legitimate criticism (or, at least not as sensitive as you seem to be) - only the stretchy criticisms so clearly influenced by how much you liked and defended Justin Fields
I think in this case it’s funny that you suddenly are so critical after allowing no criticism of Fields for years. It’s extremely clear you were dug in on Fields and at least prt of you wants Williams to fail so you can have your big I told you so moment.
You’ll obviously deflect from that, but you’re not like, particularly subtle about it at all
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No. Some dude with a huge Caleb man crush and a YouTube channel roasted Tempo and a handful of others for mildly criticizing Caleb. He is a HERO and a national treasure. There will be no Adam Hoge slander here.
If this dude was here criticizing Williams and lauding Fields there is a 0% chance you would not be posting his links here and ranting about his credibility. Come on man
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According to everyone with an opinion, Justin Fields’ work ethic wasn’t a problem. I don’t expect him to be elbow deep in the playbook every waking hour. According to everyone with knowledge he put in the work.
Meanwhile, regarding Caleb, making sure the franchise he’s in line to LEAD gets his medicals was literally his only pressing obligation. But he couldn’t be bothered until he was ready.
Before the draft Fields’ work ethic was questioned publicly. I don’t know that that was particularly fair, but it happened. He also was called out publicly (by someone who has the means to know) for not being a great teammate as a rookie sitting behind two older guys when he thought he should be playing. Again, maybe not fair, but it happened.
It’s funny how much your views on that sort of thing has shifted.
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Seems like Tempo is in the minority on this one. Hoge, the people on The RedDit and The Twitter, HQ2, all over Tempo's bad takes.
Tempo needs to post a video responding to Hoge and Hoge's accolytes.
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Seems like Tempo is in the minority on this one. Hoge, the people on The RedDit and The Twitter, HQ2, all over Tempo's bad takes.
Tempo needs to post a video responding to Hoge and Hoge's accolytes.
Profusely sweating and in a squeaky voice preferably!!! 😂
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I’m actually curious Tempo did you get a bunch of new followers from the Reddit post and the Hoge video?
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That is pretty funny. He also sounds like Spark hugging Caleb’s nuts and protecting him from all would be criticism. Also easy to sit there and rip someone who doesn’t even know he’s being ripped (and doesn’t have a chance to respond). That is classic though. Not surprised Mn is the one who found it.
Hadn’t even noticed the super transparent “spark hugging Caleb’s nuts” deflection here. Good work.
One thing you won’t see me doing is deflecting blame off him for years if he plays poorly. I will never treat him like you treated Fields, because that was weird and cultish shit. If he is as mediocre as Fields is, you can bet I will acknowledge it and not die on the “it was actually everyone else around him’s fault” hill.
I don’t expect him to be a finished product from snap one like you will almost definitely do, but if his first few seasons are Fields level mediocre I will absolutely want to move on.
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Hadn’t even noticed the super transparent “spark hugging Caleb’s nuts” deflection here. Good work.
One thing you won’t see me doing is deflecting blame off him for years if he plays poorly. I will never treat him like you treated Fields, because that was weird and cultish shit. If he is as mediocre as Fields is, you can bet I will acknowledge it and not die on the “it was actually everyone else around him’s fault” hill.
I don’t expect him to be a finished product from snap one like you will almost definitely do, but if his first few seasons are Fields level mediocre I will absolutely want to move on.
For whatever reason Tempo does not appear to understand that we are not as invested in Williams as he is in being right about Fields.
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One thing I find funny is that he intentionally misrepresented my argument for literally years to pretend I was half as dug in on Trubisky as he was on Fields.
End of the day, we all want the Bears to be good. If a guy plays well for the Bears I will want him to stay. If he doesn’t, I will want to move on. The only allegiance is to the Bears having a good quarterback finally.
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One thing I find funny is that he intentionally misrepresented my argument for literally years to pretend I was half as dug in on Trubisky as he was on Fields.
End of the day, we all want the Bears to be good. If a guy plays well for the Bears I will want him to stay. If he doesn’t, I will want to move on. The only allegiance is to the Bears having a good quarterback finally.
Are you sure Tempo wants the Bear to be good with Williams?
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Mostly yes I think if he is good Tempo will be onboard.
But he’s made it really clear there’s a part of him who will relish mocking anyone who didn’t think the golf tournament thing or his car or that one social media video or any of the other couple dozen stretchy criticisms he’s brought up in the last 6 months was a huge deal if he doesn’t play well.
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"Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." gt!!
Holy fucking shit. I just saw this. That is so fucking amazing.
The Bears failed Wayne Whitlock. God damn, I love Adam Hoge.
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I know he’s really defensive about it right now but i hope in a couple years Caleb is really good and we can stop this stupid shit and Tempo can laugh about that video, because it’s pretty funny
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I know he’s really defensive about it right now but i hope in a couple years Caleb is really good and we can stop this stupid shit and Tempo can laugh about that video, because it’s pretty funny
I don't give a fuck if he laughs about it or not. It's fucking awesome.
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I also find the golf tournament thing hilarious and extremely on brand to the sudden (and completely expected) 180 in standards you expect from the Bears’ presumptive QB.
Hopefully you can at least acknowledge that you defended Fields’ mediocre play for years and now have spent the entirety of this past season and offseason searching for any tiny thing to criticize Caleb Williams for.
Not a single one of these things matters. What matters is whether he wins games and plays well.
Dude had a reasonably competent team around him for basically 7 games (and still has never been coached well) and it’s “for years” I’ve been defending his “medicore play.” Which sometimes wasn’t mediocre.
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Holy fucking shit. I just saw this. That is so fucking amazing.
The Bears failed Wayne Whitlock. God damn, I love Adam Hoge.
Of course you’d love it.
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Hadn’t even noticed the super transparent “spark hugging Caleb’s nuts” deflection here. Good work.
One thing you won’t see me doing is deflecting blame off him for years if he plays poorly. I will never treat him like you treated Fields, because that was weird and cultish shit. If he is as mediocre as Fields is, you can bet I will acknowledge it and not die on the “it was actually everyone else around him’s fault” hill.
I don’t expect him to be a finished product from snap one like you will almost definitely do, but if his first few seasons are Fields level mediocre I will absolutely want to move on.
One season ago Fields had an entirely unacceptable supporting cast and a rookie OC in over his head in his first full season as a starter and “he was mediocre FOR YEARS.”
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If you're still not even willing to acknowledge that Fields was mediocre in Chicago, I don't know what to tell you. Obviously everyone else sees it.
But you're dug in. Frankly, more dug in than I've ever seen someone on an athlete. It's truly weird.
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One season ago Fields had an entirely unacceptable supporting cast and a rookie OC in over his head in his first full season as a starter and “he was mediocre FOR YEARS.”
Yes, he was mediocre for three seasons in Chicago.
Again, you will never see me defend Caleb Williams like you did if he's similarly mediocre.
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We’ve been over this a million times and you still don’t know what the fuck my position was. Brilliant.
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We’ve been over this a million times and you still don’t know what the fuck my position was. Brilliant.
No, I do - I argued against it a hundred times. You've simply shifted to pretend it was more reasonable than it was.
And now, are doing the opposing thing to Caleb Williams - criticizing him for every single tiny detail you can find before he's even drafted.
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Gotta say, I love that you put your Caleb Williams strawman in your signature. That's perfect.
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Even with someone like Herbert for example- his team basically sucks, but they/people/you can see he’s a franchise QB. You can’t/couldn’t do that with Fields.
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Well thankfully for Caleb, he’ll have an actual NFL team (with decent coaching) around him from day 1, instead of being forced to try an elevate a practice squad roster.
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And thus, you will demand that he be perfect from the first snap after making excuses for every play for three years of Fields. Obviously, to be expected.
You got defensive last year when I said a receiver made a good catch. In all my years following sports, I have never seen a phenomenon like the Fields Fans, it was truly odd. You couldn't even compliment another player on the team without it being inferred as a slight against Fields. You couldn't acknowledge that he made a good play and then a bad play.
Fields also traded to a team with a good coach, so surely he'll be really good now.
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I think Keenan Allen was a great pickup, especially for the price. But he was really the only major pickup so far and you argued for the entirety of the second half of last year that Fields' surroundings were so bad you couldn't even correctly evaluate him. Obviously they're likely to get a good player at 9 (or a couple good players with a tradeback). The Bears roster will definitely be better next year than it was last year.
That said, I think you're overselling how much the Bears' roster has improved overall, to go from "so bad you can't even properly evaluate Fields" to "so good it's the reason why if Caleb plays well". I think you were wildly over-protective of Fields, and if the existing evidence is to be believed you're going to be insufferably critical of Caleb as a rookie - I think you know somewhere in you that that's kind of ridiculous. It'll mostly be the same roster. Added a backup/swing guy to the line you maligned all year. Aside from Allen (which is a great pickup for cheap): Added an RB who has been decent but not great. Added a backup TE.
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Mediocre would have been far better than what we saw for 3 years
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Of course you’d love it.
It's hilarious
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And thus, you will demand that he be perfect from the first snap after making excuses for every play for three years of Fields. Obviously, to be expected.
You’re gonna be pretty disappointed (in my Caleb hate) should he be less than perfect immediately. You continuously fail to acknowledge how poorly Justin Fields was “set up to succeed” and how that has influenced by inclination to push back on your narratives. I’m not sure anyone other than Judge Judy has acknowledged what a shitty hand Justin was dealt (and he’s among thr last people I would expect to acknowledge this, but he’s also been all over the map on the issue).
I’ve said ad nauseam that a reasonable amount of Justin’s poor play rests on his own shoulders, and he needed to perform better. I also think what Justin went through would have broken most young quarterbacks, and I don’t think Justin is broken.
If you had even allowed a modicum of his struggles to be attributed to being in a real tough situation, I probably wouldn’t push back so much. I’ve even probably said 25x that your position has been a justifiable one, but you still paint me as someone who is a complete cult member. If you’re unwilling to read and comprehend wheat I write, it’s not my fault.
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It's hilarious
Jobu loves him a lazy narrative (just as much as you do). Jobu said “God damn, I love Adam Hoge.” I’d be very surprised if Jobu goes out of his way to consume any Adam Hoge content, much less “loves him.” Twitter, Score, Berstein, Parkins, pwned.
If Hoge had gone out of way to praise something I said Jobu would call him an idiot.
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Even with someone like Herbert for example- his team basically sucks, but they/people/you can see he’s a franchise QB. You can’t/couldn’t do that with Fields.
Herbert is really really good. He’s also had a lot more to work with than Justin had. Herbert is also a very very very rare quarterback that plays well from day one. That is far from the norm.
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I think Keenan Allen was a great pickup, especially for the price. But he was really the only major pickup so far and you argued for the entirety of the second half of last year that Fields' surroundings were so bad you couldn't even correctly evaluate him. Obviously they're likely to get a good player at 9 (or a couple good players with a tradeback). The Bears roster will definitely be better next year than it was last year.
That said, I think you're overselling how much the Bears' roster has improved overall, to go from "so bad you can't even properly evaluate Fields" to "so good it's the reason why if Caleb plays well". I think you were wildly over-protective of Fields, and if the existing evidence is to be believed you're going to be insufferably critical of Caleb as a rookie - I think you know somewhere in you that that's kind of ridiculous. It'll mostly be the same roster. Added a backup/swing guy to the line you maligned all year. Aside from Allen (which is a great pickup for cheap): Added an RB who has been decent but not great. Added a backup TE.
They also added a quality Center and a running back that will fairly easily be the most talented RB on the team. And a proven offensive coordinator. That’s a fair bit more than just minimal improvements.
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This roster is on the verge of a major uptick and anyone with half a brain knows it. The defense was totally legit the last 7 games. If Tonyan, Mooney, and or Scott make 2 out of 3 catches they should have made the Bears would have gone 6-1 their last 7 and been playing for a playoff berth against GB (and a division title had Detroit lost week 18).
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They also added a quality Center and a running back that will fairly easily be the most talented RB on the team. And a proven offensive coordinator. That’s a fair bit more than just minimal improvements.
The offensive line will also be a year older/better and have more time together under their belt. No more rookies, unless they draft Alt or Fashanu.
I can’t remember the number, but the combinations of Bears starting fronts the previous two years was utterly ridiculous. I’ll see if I can find it.
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This was just through 8 weeks last year. If you think shit like this doesn’t matter (and pretty significantly) then there’s no point in even talking football with you. #excuses
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Jobu loves him a lazy narrative (just as much as you do). Jobu said “God damn, I love Adam Hoge.” I’d be very surprised if Jobu goes out of his way to consume any Adam Hoge content, much less “loves him.” Twitter, Score, Berstein, Parkins, pwned.
If Hoge had gone out of way to praise something I said Jobu would call him an idiot.
Of course I don't go out of my way to consume any Adam Hoge content. I've made it very clear how I feel about sports radio and talking heads. I just found it hilarious that he called your dumb ass out. I never would have known if it hadn't been shared on here. I'm glad it was, because it's fucking hilarious.
As far as him praising something you said, well, why would he or anyone else in that line of work do that? That doesn't get clicks.
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Of course - it's almost all the same guys, but a night and day difference in quality now that it's not Fields at QB.
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Of course - it's almost all the same guys, but a night and day difference in quality now that it's not Fields at QB.
You can’t be this fucking stupid.
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2nd, 3rd, 4th year guys NEVER show improvement…dumbest fucking shit I have ever seen on a message board.
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Jobu loves him a lazy narrative (just as much as you do). Jobu said “God damn, I love Adam Hoge.” I’d be very surprised if Jobu goes out of his way to consume any Adam Hoge content, much less “loves him.” Twitter, Score, Berstein, Parkins, pwned.
If Hoge had gone out of way to praise something I said Jobu would call him an idiot.
Talking about lazy narratives! Your take was stupid and called out when you posted it here. You are an online embarrassment for Bear fans, per Hoge and Carman!
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The likelihood of 23, 24 year old players improving (themselves) and as a unit with more time together is just SO UNLIKELY. Fucking moronic shit here.
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2nd, 3rd, 4th year guys NEVER show improvement…dumbest fucking shit I have ever seen on a message board.
And yet Fields still sucked in years 2 and 3.
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Actually, he was better in year 2 than he was in year 3. He regressed once teams decided to let him pass instead of run.
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The line will be better with someone who is actually willing to throw the ball on time.
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Not to mention we are going from a bottom 2 Center to probably a top 10-12 guy that started for McVay. That’s unlikely to help at all.
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You’re gonna be pretty disappointed (in my Caleb hate) should he be less than perfect immediately. You continuously fail to acknowledge how poorly Justin Fields was “set up to succeed” and how that has influenced by inclination to push back on your narratives. I’m not sure anyone other than Judge Judy has acknowledged what a shitty hand Justin was dealt (and he’s among thr last people I would expect to acknowledge this, but he’s also been all over the map on the issue).
I’ve said ad nauseam that a reasonable amount of Justin’s poor play rests on his own shoulders, and he needed to perform better. I also think what Justin went through would have broken most young quarterbacks, and I don’t think Justin is broken.
If you had even allowed a modicum of his struggles to be attributed to being in a real tough situation, I probably wouldn’t push back so much. I’ve even probably said 25x that your position has been a justifiable one, but you still paint me as someone who is a complete cult member. If you’re unwilling to read and comprehend wheat I write, it’s not my fault.
I'm already pretty disappointed in how far you're willing to stretch to criticize Caleb. It's transparent and shameless as hell. But it's, of course, EXACTLY what i expected. And I'm not stupid enough to think it's actually about Caleb - it, like almost every single one of your Bears takes for the last couple years, is about a weird obsession with Justin Fields.
You ABSOLUTELY HAVE NOT said that Justin Fields' poor play lies on his shoulders. That's a complete lie. Anyone who said that would get a dozen excuses from you for why it wasn't actually Fields' fault when he played poorly. It happened over and over and over last year - I can't even believe you were shameless enough to type that just now.
Of course he wasn't in a great situation. I acknowledged that dozens of times (but it didn't fit your little narrative, so now you're pretending). He also wasn't in a situation that was so bad that evaluating him wasn't possible. He also actually played poorly, separate from any 'situational' aspects, which no one here was allowed to even acknowledge without a five page argument about how Fields actually played well and everyone else played so badly that it made it seem like Fields played badly.
You're obviously never going to acknowledge reality here, so it's silly to waste any more time. If you want to go down with the ship screaming about how reasonable you were last year about Fields go right ahead. That's obviously a joke to anyone who actually read your posts here though.
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I'd watch Spark's video calling out Tempo for being an online embarrassment to Bear fans.
Edit: I'd watch Spark read his last post ripping Tempo.
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You can’t be this fucking stupid.
I wish I could say the same to you, but this is exactly as 'fucking stupid' as you've been for a while.
Which is why everyone here, and apparently on Reddit and on Bears podcasts etc. makes fun of you so much. Just laughable take after laughable take, a never ending stream.
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No criticism or concern of Caleb (no matter how minor) is allowed! Despite the fact I’ve been unequivocal about how I’d take him number 1 now that Fields is gone. You’ve not seen me question that pick (to the point of pimping another pick) one time. But there were a couple of minor concerns I had…
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2nd, 3rd, 4th year guys NEVER show improvement…dumbest fucking shit I have ever seen on a message board.
Just because Fields didn't doesn't mean no one will. No one said this, though (obviously).
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No criticism or concern of Caleb (no matter how minor) is allowed! Despite the fact I’ve been unequivocal about how I’d take him number 1 now that Fields is gone. You’ve not seen me question that pick (to the point of pimping another pick) one time. But there were a couple of minor concerns I had…
You're projecting your Fields thing onto others with Caleb. It's you who did not allow any criticism of your guy. If Caleb goes out and in his first few years is a mediocre QB like Fields was here, I will be the first to criticize him.
You've so far whined about: his car, the fact that he went to a golf tournament, a video he made a joke in on social media, the fact that he didn't sit and let every team's doctors examine him when he knew where he was going, the fact that his team won a bowl game without him. He hasn't even been drafted yet and you've spent like 6 months crying about every tiny detail of his life. It's fucking weird!
Yeah, we make fun of you for the stupid shit you choose to whinge about - of course we do. It's hilarious.
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I wish I could say the same to you, but this is exactly as 'fucking stupid' as you've been for a while.
Which is why everyone here, and apparently on Reddit and on Bears podcasts etc. makes fun of you so much. Just laughable take after laughable take, a never ending stream.
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When you have to make up an argument and attribute it to someone else, you've lost the argument.
By that token, I can't remember the last one you won.
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Tevin Jenkins, the Bears “best” OLineman has started 24 career games. That’s not even a season as a half. And he’s started about 6 with last years’ “starting unit.” Compare that to Philly.
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When you have to make up an argument and attribute it to someone else, you've lost the argument.
By that token, I can't remember the last one you won.
He's been Behind the Curve since The COVID.
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Tevin Jenkins, the Bears “best” OLineman has started 24 career games. That’s not even a season as a half. And he’s started about 6 with last years’ “starting unit.” Compare that to Philly.
Fields made the line look worse.
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I think Tempo and Spark should record a Zoom session and post the video here.
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When you have to make up an argument and attribute it to someone else, you've lost the argument.
By that token, I can't remember the last one you won.
sAmE pLAyerZ
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The defense that wilted against Denver was (minus one guy) the same players that excelled at the end of the year.
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I think Tempo and Spark should record a Zoom session and post the video here.
That would be epic.
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I’ll bet Jason Kelce had 75 more career starts than the Bears entire starting line last year (easily).
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Experience matters in the NFL, and OL and quarterback it probably matters most.
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You're projecting your Fields thing onto others with Caleb. It's you who did not allow any criticism of your guy. If Caleb goes out and in his first few years is a mediocre QB like Fields was here, I will be the first to criticize him.
You've so far whined about: his car, the fact that he went to a golf tournament, a video he made a joke in on social media, the fact that he didn't sit and let every team's doctors examine him when he knew where he was going, the fact that his team won a bowl game without him. He hasn't even been drafted yet and you've spent like 6 months crying about every tiny detail of his life. It's fucking weird!
Yeah, we make fun of you for the stupid shit you choose to whinge about - of course we do. It's hilarious.
I have “allowed” criticism of “my guy.” To the point where I said your position was justifiable. If thats not an allowance” of criticism, I don’t know what to fucking tell you. What irked me was the complete lack of distribution of blame and the excessive Fields hate. I can only say so many times I get the case for moving on from Fields.
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Fields made the line look worse.
At times.
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The defense that wilted against Denver was (minus one guy) the same players that excelled at the end of the year.
Wilted. Epic. The Sh1t QB1 melted down in the 4th quarter and gave Denver the game.
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Tempo… how can we compare any players?! I mean with your arguments nobody can be because every year players get better. Even if it’s the same people. Weird.
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I have “allowed” criticism of “my guy.” To the point where I said your position was justifiable. If thats not an allowance” of criticism, I don’t know what to fucking tell you. What irked me was the complete lack of distribution of blame and the excessive Fields hate. I can only say so many times I get the case for moving on from Fields.
The hate you're talking about is pure projection. I can't speak for JJ or the guy who exclusively trolls you, but I certainly never hated Fields. Hell, I was stoked as fuck when we moved up to get him and wanted him to be the answer badly. I was stoked when we got DJ Moore for him and expected him to have a breakout year, which would've been the absolute ideal situation - having QB figured out but also having two top-10 picks in the draft (including #1) with your QB situation already sorted is a perfect situation. And I wasn't alone; Justin Fields got more bets and money on him for MVP last year than any other player. But with DJ Moore as his WR1 instead of Mooney, he was .. about the same. I was a HELL of a lot more fair to Fields than you've been to Caleb Williams so far, and it isn't remotely close or debatable.
It's not hate. We pointed out when he played badly and you simply would not allow that. You insisted that when Fields played badly, it was everyone else's fault - every single time, all of last year. I literally cannot remember a single time I pointed out something Fields had done poorly and you just said, "yep, gotta be better" - but I DO remember a time I pointed out something he did well and you got mad that I later acknowledged that he did something poorly on a later play without also acknowledging the good play again.
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The defense gave up about 200 yards and 17 points in the last 16 minutes of the game, but yeah, it was ALL Justin’s fault they lost.
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Tempo… how can we compare any players?! I mean with your arguments nobody can be because every year players get better. Even if it’s the same people. Weird.
Nice strawman.
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Plenty of blame to go around in the Denver game, for sure.
In those same last 16 minutes the Bears had four possessions.
1. Three and out
2. Fields fumble returned for a touchdown
3. Turnover on downs
4. Fields interception
Both units played well for 3 quarters and melted down in the fourth.
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No fucking shit.
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Cannot beat HQ analysis, especially when it comes to football.
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Hahahahahaha, man are you bad at this
Literally can't even agree with you without you being mad someone pointed out something Fields did poorly.
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Cannot beat HQ analysis, especially when it comes to football.
We all wait with bated breath for your analysis of Caleb Williams' social schedule and latest tweet, for sure.
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Tempo builds a strawman about how the meltdown was ALL Fields' fault.
I agree with him: it wasn't; the offense melted down at the same time as the defense.
His response: "no fucking shit".
God damn is that perfect.
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Tempo… how can we compare any players?! I mean with your arguments nobody can be because every year players get better. Even if it’s the same people. Weird.
You seem to know a lot about ball; so I have a few questions for you.
Do 28-32 year old players generally “improve” at the same rate as 21-25 year olds?
Also, oh, let’s just draw a line through the middle of last year’s schedule: The Bears’ 3 “best and most talented” offensive linemen roughly averaged about 15 NFL starts between them with maybe 3 starts together as a unit. In your clearly expert opinion would you say that’s a normal profile for a quality offensive line in the NFL? Looking forward to your answers.
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Tempo builds a strawman about how the meltdown was ALL Fields' fault.
I agree with him: it wasn't; the offense melted down at the same time as the defense.
His response: "no fucking shit".
God damn is that perfect.
I’m just glad you pointed out it was EVERYONE’S fault. Thank God for that.
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According to ThePAMan the Denver loss was entirely on Justin. He’s never blamed anyone for the loss, but him.
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I’m just glad you pointed out it was EVERYONE’S fault. Thank God for that.
Gee, I wonder where the notion that you don't allow criticism of Fields came from?
Certainly couldn't be that you get wildly defensive with someone AGREEING WITH YOU if the agreement includes any acknowledgement of poor play from him. Wonder where it came from?
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According to ThePAMan the Denver loss was entirely on Justin. He’s never blamed anyone for the loss, but him.
I don't know how many times I can say this: THEPAMAN EXCLUSIVELY TROLLS YOU. Every single post he makes here is intended specifically to get a rise out of you. Why even reply when he says that stupid shit?
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Fields made the line look worse.
ThePAMan: “the line looking bad was Sh1tQB1’s fault.”
Also ThePAMan: “Can’t draft a guy like Bowers when we need to replace pretty much everyone on the offensive line.”
And no, that isn’t taking him out of context. He’s taken both positions.
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I don't know how many times I can say this: THEPAMAN EXCLUSIVELY TROLLS YOU. Every single post he makes here is intended specifically to get a rise out of you. Why even reply when he says that stupid shit?
In this case, I think he believes it.
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Gee, I wonder where the notion that you don't allow criticism of Fields came from?
Certainly couldn't be that you get wildly defensive with someone AGREEING WITH YOU if the agreement includes any acknowledgement of poor play from him. Wonder where it came from?
Just once I’d like to hear you without a “yeah, but.”
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Plenty of blame to go around in the Denver game, for sure.
In those same last 16 minutes the Bears had four possessions.
1. Three and out
2. Fields fumble returned for a touchdown
3. Turnover on downs
4. Fields interception
Yes, it’s clear you went out of your way here to “spread blame.”
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Yes, it’s clear you went out of your way here to “spread blame.”
Football is a game of momentum. Bad QB play caused the change in momentum.
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In this case, I think he believes it.
Nope - and if he does, it doesn't matter: it's still framed specifically and exclusively to get a rise out of you.
I want to have a real discussion with you, someone whose opinion I typically value, about this but you're so stuck on PAMan openly trolling you that you just troll like he does in response.
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Yes, it’s clear you went out of your way here to “spread blame.”
I noticed you cut off part of my post.
Bad faith bullshit. You're better than this. Just shameless and pathetic debate.
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Just once I’d like to hear you without a “yeah, but.”
You want me to pretend it was only the defense that lost the game? That's what you did, and its exactly as dishonest as saying that only Fields lost it. You get mad EVERY SINGLE TIME someone points out mistakes Fields makes, 100% of the time, even if they're agreeing with you.
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Spark = Hoge is a match!
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See? He only trolls. That's his whole point in coming here: to troll and try to get a rise out of someone.
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See? He only trolls. That's his whole point in coming here: to troll and try to get a rise out of someone.
At this point you should know he is not interested in debate.
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I noticed you cut off part of my post.
Bad faith bullshit. You're better than this. Just shameless and pathetic debate.
I went with the meat and left out the bread.
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Plenty of blame to go around in the Denver game, for sure.
In those same last 16 minutes the Bears had four possessions.
1. Three and out
2. Fields fumble returned for a touchdown
3. Turnover on downs
4. Fields interception
Both units played well for 3 quarters and melted down in the fourth.
Ok, here’s the entire thing. You detailed the specific failures of the offense (Fields prominently) and glossed over the defensive failures. So, it’s not like I was taking anything out of context.
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It wasn’t even just “turnover” or “interception,” you made sure to mention they were Fields errors (even though O’Sullivan thought Kmet ran a lazy route). Again, no specific mention of the defense outside of “plenty blame to go around.”
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Nope - and if he does, it doesn't matter: it's still framed specifically and exclusively to get a rise out of you.
I want to have a real discussion with you, someone whose opinion I typically value, about this but you're so stuck on PAMan openly trolling you that you just troll like he does in response.
Yes, he trolls non-stop. He also believes the great majority of what he posts.
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You want me to pretend it was only the defense that lost the game?
No, but we’re well aware of the mistakes the offense/Fields made. Even in “sharing the blame accordingly,” you highlighted Fields’ mistakes and the closest you came to saying “defense” was “both units.”
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Yes, he trolls non-stop. He also believes the great majority of what he posts.
How can you be a troll if you believe what you post? Isn't a troll someone who posts inflammatory and irrelevant comments to disrupt the conversation? Saying in a Bear thread Fields sucks ass, which he does, is true. Boom.
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Now telling Adam Hoge you are concerned about why Williams is not giving the Bear his medicals in a report on Williams being at a golf tournament is trolling.
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I went with the meat and left out the bread.
You quoted the part that you thought would be a gotcha and dishonestly left out the other part so you could pretend it was a gotcha.
Just pathetic.
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No, but we’re well aware of the mistakes the offense/Fields made. Even in “sharing the blame accordingly,” you highlighted Fields’ mistakes and the closest you came to saying “defense” was “both units.”
As a reply to your post, which only really mentioned that the defense melted down - yes.
Literally CANNOT EVEN AGREE WITH YOU if the agreement includes an acknowledgement that Fields played poorly. To the point that you will alter the post someone made to try to claim some cheap gotcha. It's unbelievable. Cult shit.
We were all well aware of the mistakes the defense made too - or at least everyone who isn't specifically and openly trolling you! - but the defense (like every other player or coach on the roster) doesn't fall under the Tempo Umbrella of Protection, under which no acknowledgement of poor play can go without a dishonest argument.
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It wasn’t even just “turnover” or “interception,” you made sure to mention they were Fields errors (even though O’Sullivan thought Kmet ran a lazy route). Again, no specific mention of the defense outside of “plenty blame to go around.”
Sorry, I shouldn't have mentioned WHO committed the turnovers, because acknowledging poor play by Fields simply is not allowed around you.
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Ok, here’s the entire thing. You detailed the specific failures of the offense (Fields prominently) and glossed over the defensive failures. So, it’s not like I was taking anything out of context.
You pretty clearly were! When you have to actively change someone's post to make your point, your point probably isn't very good.
Your post didn't mention any blame for any offensive player, only the defense. In response I said yes, there was plenty of blame to go around - and supplemented your comments about the defense with the offensive performance over the same stretch to point out that BOTH UNITS played well for three quarters and BOTH UNITS melted down in the fourth. But even agreeing with you is worth an argument if it includes any acknowledgement of poor play by your golden boy.
Do you really not see how fucking weird this shit is?
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Now telling Adam Hoge you are concerned about why Williams is not giving the Bear his medicals in a report on Williams being at a golf tournament is trolling.
This is a blatant troll. By you.
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You pretty clearly were! When you have to actively change someone's post to make your point, your point probably isn't very good.
Your post didn't mention any blame for any offensive player, only the defense. In response I said yes, there was plenty of blame to go around - and supplemented your comments about the defense with the offensive performance over the same stretch to point out that BOTH UNITS played well for three quarters and BOTH UNITS melted down in the fourth. But even agreeing with you is worth an argument if it includes any acknowledgement of poor play by your golden boy.
Do you really not see how fucking weird this shit is?
It didn’t “change” anything. I was merely highlighting the important part. The part where you made sure you referenced and highlighted Fields’ turnovers and the offenses’ struggles in particular but never said the word “defense.” Even in “sharing the blame,” you went out of your way to highlight Fields and “his” offense. That’s the point.
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Sorry, I shouldn't have mentioned WHO committed the turnovers, because acknowledging poor play by Fields simply is not allowed around you.
You were busy “spreading the blame,” why wouldn’t you have mentioned the Fields turnovers and offensive struggles particularly? All the while not really mentioning the defense except the use of the phrase “both units.”
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If PAMan saw Justin Fields was at a golf tournament while under contract with the Bears, he wouldn’t have stopped bitching about it for months.
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Spark, let’s get past that nonsense. Can you at least go as far as to say that Fields was given a pretty raw deal here (and hey, sometimes things aren’t “fair.”)? Are you able to agree to that? That would be progress IMO.
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It didn’t “change” anything. I was merely highlighting the important part. The part where you made sure you referenced and highlighted Fields’ turnovers and the offenses’ struggles in particular but never said the word “defense.” Even in “sharing the blame,” you went out of your way to highlight Fields and “his” offense. That’s the point.
The defense, which you’d already mentioned also melted down, was also an “important part”. You were playing Fields Protection Agency as you consistently have for a long time now. Even if I’m agreeing with you, you will chop out any part other than the parts that acknowledge poor play by Fields and pretend that’s all I said to act like I’m being unfair. It’s absurd.
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This is a blatant troll. By you.
No it isn't. It is an illustrative example of actual trolling because it appears some are unaware of what trolling actually is.
Saying Fields sucks in a Bear thread talking about Bear QB play is not trolling.
Saying some dumbassed shit about medicals because a potential draft pick is at a golf tourney is trolling. Hoge and your fellow RedDitors appear to agree and called you out on it.
But I'm the problem; not the guy who trolls across multiple message boards.
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You were busy “spreading the blame,” why wouldn’t you have mentioned the Fields turnovers and offensive struggles particularly? All the while not really mentioning the defense except the use of the phrase “both units.”
Because I was replying to a post that specifically mentioned the defense’s meltdown and not the offense’s, yes. This isn’t nearly as difficult to figure out as you’re making it seem but the defensiveness is unlike anything I’ve ever seen in sports.
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Spark, let’s get past that nonsense. Can you at least go as far as to say that Fields was given a pretty raw deal here (and hey, sometimes things aren’t “fair.”)? Are you able to agree to that? That would be progress IMO.
As I’ve consistently said, he was by no means in a great situation.
You oversell that by a LOT and make sure you shield him from ANY criticism with 100% consistency - even when the criticism is something like “nice catch by DJ Moore”. You literally got defensive this season when I said that. You got defensive when I complimented him one play and then a couple plays later said “the good and the bad of Fields back to back”. Not one single time did someone criticize him and you didn’t make an excuse or pretend any criticism is unfair all season.
I’ve never said or acted like he was on some amazing roster, but very few QBs end up in perfect situations and a lot of them have been much better than Fields anyway. All last year I was trying to get you to at least acknowledge that Fields himself was playing poorly and it wasn’t JUST because of everyone else around him that he wasn’t very good, but you consistently could not (and still cannot) do that.
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Lol
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Not true, but ok.
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And not one time to my recollection, did any of you go out of your way to blame anyone but Fields for his fortunes. “It was an unbelievable play to even have a chance to catch that Hail Mary!”
Did you make any effort to fault Tonyan or Scott for failing to make routine plays that probably would have won them the game in two losses?
Yes, I have been defensive about Fields; I will own that. But that’s because no one here blames anyone else EVER for his/the Bears struggles.
I can’t think of a single time you’ve blamed anyone other than Fields for anything bad that happened. If I’m wrong, point it out.
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I would argue my defensiveness stems from the complete lack of shared blame by anyone on this forum.
I never hear anyone say how other players failed in critical situations or that they need to step it up. I only hear Fields can’t get it done, especially in the 4th quarter. There were literally like 3 losses this year where people said Eberflus played a direct role. Cleveland for one, a game in which multiple people failed Justin but all I hear is about how bad he was.
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And not one time to my recollection, did any of you go out of your way to blame anyone but Fields for his fortunes. “It was an unbelievable play to even have a chance to catch that Hail Mary!”
Did you make any effort to fault Tonyan or Scott for failing to make routine plays that probably would have won them the game in two losses?
Yes, I have been defensive about Fields; I will own that. But that’s because no one here blames anyone else EVER for his/the Bears struggles.
I can’t think of a single time you’ve blamed anyone other than Fields for anything bad that happened. If I’m wrong, point it out.
Well, it WAS a great play for Mooney to have a chance at the tipped Hail Mary. That’s just factual, as the replays show. And if you’ve got to hang your hat on a tipped Hail Mary that a dude didn’t make a fantastic play on, there just isn’t much to hang it on.
Of course it’s not Fields’ fault that Tonyan dropped the ball, nor did I ever say it was. I’m not the dude that blames everyone else for someone’s failure, that’s your thing. Every team has guys drop balls, though - some even quite a bit more often than the Bears - and I don't think a few drops are excuses for those teams or QBs either. The team with the worst drop rate in the league won the Super Bowl.
It’s his fault when HE plays badly, and the other peoples’ faults when THEY play badly. It’s not like some complicated idea.
I’ve never blamed anyone else for Fields’ failures, nor have I blamed Fields for anybody else’s failures. I think when a player fucks up it’s their fault. You’ve made it extremely clear that when Fields fucks up, you think it’s actually Cole Kmet or the OL or Darnell Mooney or Luke Getsy’s fault, just never Fields’. Every time.
In an extremely mediocre season I was far more complimentary of Fields when he played well than you were critical when he played poorly (it isn't remotely close), and yet it's actually MY fault that you act that way.
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I would argue my defensiveness stems from the complete lack of shared blame by anyone on this forum.
I never hear anyone say how other players failed in critical situations or that they need to step it up. I only hear Fields can’t get it done, especially in the 4th quarter. There were literally like 3 losses this year where people said Eberflus played a direct role. Cleveland for one, a game in which multiple people failed Justin but all I hear is about how bad he was.
Oh, your ridiculous behavior is someone else’s fault? Shocks me you’d say that.
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Every visiting quarterback who played in Cleveland was awful this year. Justin’s stats were probably the best believe it or not, and should have been quite a bit better if not for drops and bogus INTs.
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Yes, no one ever complained about Eberlose, Getsy, the O line not giving Sh1t QB1 an hour to throw, the D line not getting pressure, Eddie Jackson, etc.
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Oh, your ridiculous behavior is someone else’s fault? Shocks me you’d say that.
Jesus, you really have become PAMan Jr. So you deny what I said? You think other players here were critiqued anywhere near to the degree Justin was?
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a game in which multiple people failed Justin
Good lord. And you wonder why people refer to you goofs as a cult?
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Jesus, you really have become PAMan Jr. So you deny what I said? You think other players here were critiqued anywhere near to the degree Justin was?
I can't speak for PAMan, but when someone fucked up I blamed them (including Fields, Getsy, Tonyan, etc.) and not everyone around them.
You didn't do that, but only for one player - everyone got their blame EXCEPT the quarterback, in every situation, all season.
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Good lord. And you wonder why people refer to you goofs as a cult?
🧌
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I can't speak for PAMan, but when someone fucked up I blamed them (including Fields, Getsy, Tonyan, etc.) and not everyone around them.
You didn't do that, but only for one player - everyone got their blame EXCEPT the quarterback, in every situation, all season.
Not true. I won’t deny I was quick to find fault with others, but it’s largely because no one else would. Justin was repeatedly let down in critical situations the last two years, yet all we ever heard was that Justin can’t get it done in the 4th quarter. Justin can’t help it when EQ drops a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down, or Scott drops a well thrown deep ball that would have sealed the Detroit game. There are a lot of other examples. And the line still couldn’t pass block on obvious passing downs which made making 4th quarter comebacks nearly impossible. And I’ll tell you what, I’m pretty confident Tee Higgins comes down with that Hail Mary.
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He literally had it in his arms. You have to catch that if you want to be called a “plus” WR. Or how about the double clutch at the goal line against Washington where he came up 6 inches short? Justin’s fault, obviously.
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I just went back and read some of the Browns game thread. The first criticism I made was that the playcalling was 'fucking terrible'. I also acknowledged the QB play was 'mediocre as fuck'. I gave Tonyan the blame for dropping a great pass from Fields. I didn't agree that Mooney, falling backwards onto his ass and leaning forward to tip the ball near his lap, fucked up on the tipped Hail Mary.
Want to guess what we spent 10 pages arguing about? Think it was the playcalling being terrible? What about blaming Tonyan for dropping a great pass?
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He literally had it in his arms. You have to catch that if you want to be called a “plus” WR. Or how about the double clutch at the goal line against Washington where he came up 6 inches short? Justin’s fault, obviously.
You live in a fantasy world. Go watch the video. It would've been a fantastic play had he made it.
Yes, it landed on his lap - after he reached forward while falling backwards and tipped it to keep it off the ground.
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And if that 6 iron would have been a foot left. Lol
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Not true. I won’t deny I was quick to find fault with others, but it’s largely because no one else would. Justin was repeatedly let down in critical situations the last two years, yet all we ever heard was that Justin can’t get it done in the 4th quarter. Justin can’t help it when EQ drops a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down, or Scott drops a well thrown deep ball that would have sealed the Detroit game. There are a lot of other examples. And the line still couldn’t pass block on obvious passing downs which made making 4th quarter comebacks nearly impossible. And I’ll tell you what, I’m pretty confident Tee Higgins comes down with that Hail Mary.
At least we're talking about NFL WRs catching it now. At the time you said you would've caught it, because to acknowledge how difficult the catch was is a lot like criticizing Fields (in the Browns thread, I also multiple times said Fields didn't do anything wrong on either Hail Mary in the game).
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Caleb Williams has let Tempo down...everyone on the Bear let Sh1t QB1 down....man, Hoge should dedicate a whole podcast to Tempo's ridiculousness.
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Not true. I won’t deny I was quick to find fault with others, but it’s largely because no one else would. Justin was repeatedly let down in critical situations the last two years, yet all we ever heard was that Justin can’t get it done in the 4th quarter. Justin can’t help it when EQ drops a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down, or Scott drops a well thrown deep ball that would have sealed the Detroit game. There are a lot of other examples. And the line still couldn’t pass block on obvious passing downs which made making 4th quarter comebacks nearly impossible. And I’ll tell you what, I’m pretty confident Tee Higgins comes down with that Hail Mary.
The truth is, 'no one else would' find fault exclusively with others and insulate Fields from 100% of criticism. And that was what you demanded.
You're welcome to pretend you were reasonable about Fields, but that is simply false. It was extremely rare that you ever criticized his play, and if there was a player or coach not named DJ Moore who you didn't throw under the bus to deflect from criticism of Fields' play, I can't think of who they are.
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Blabbity Blabbity blah blah blah.
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I’ve said dozens of times now that Fields needed to help himself by playing better and that I get the case for moving on, but keep on with the mischaracterizations.
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The truth is, 'no one else would' find fault exclusively with others and insulate Fields from 100% of criticism. And that was what you demanded.
Not even remotely true. I just wanted people to acknowledge that 97% of the blame didn’t belong to Justin Fields, which is what he got.
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And Tee Higgins catches that Hail Mary.
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And Tee Higgins catches that Hail Mary.
You had better hands in high school than Tee Higgins.
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You had better hands in high school than Tee Higgins.
Not sure about that. Darnell Mooney…maybe. I never dropped anything though.
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And if that 6 iron would have been a foot left. Lol
It’s funny you say that, because my favorite golfer (Fred Couples) would have had a 2nd green jacket if not for a 6 iron that was about a yard short and right and landed in Rae’s Creek ‘98.
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It's funny you say that, because your favorite QB would have 1 more completion a couple of years ago if ESB hadn't dropped that pass.
2 more, if ESB hadn't dropped that pass and your fav QB didn't overthrow the in the flat 6'4" Claypool by a few feet.
And we would have gone bowling last year if ..........
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Love it when Mn does a drive by.
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It's funny you say that, because your favorite QB would have 1 more completion a couple of years ago if ESB hadn't dropped that pass.
2 more, if ESB hadn't dropped that pass and your fav QB didn't overthrow the in the flat 6'4" Claypool by a few feet.
And we would have gone bowling last year if ..........
Mooney catching that tipped Hail Mary while on his ass is missing from your "ifs."
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Love it when Mn does a drive by.
😂 I don’t know why I laughed so hard at this, but I found it hilarious!
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Is this what you’re looking for l, Tempo?! If this makes you feel better, great!
https://x.com/dave_bfr/status/1778067227612217815?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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It's funny you say that, because your favorite QB would have 1 more completion a couple of years ago if ESB hadn't dropped that pass.
2 more, if ESB hadn't dropped that pass and your fav QB didn't overthrow the in the flat 6'4" Claypool by a few feet.
And we would have gone bowling last year if ..........
JFC I’m sure you thought that was a good post in your head.
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Love it when Mn does a drive by.
Kneecap jobs are all he does because he’s basically a simpleton.
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Mooney catching that tipped Hail Mary while on his ass is missing from your "ifs."
YOU’d expect that pass to be caught if anyone other than JF had thrown it. You know this.
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YOU’d expect that pass to be caught if anyone other than JF had thrown it. You know this.
I only would expect you to catch it given your great hands as a HS receiver.
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Kneecap jobs are all he does because he’s basically a simpleton.
Mn has failed Wayne too.
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Sounds like Tyler Scott and Keenan Allen are giving up their #13 jerseys for Caleb. Seems like they are accepting him in the locker room already and he hasn’t even been in it yet…
https://x.com/dave_bfr/status/1777801044640014845?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Tempo, you could be Cowherd's personal driver if he moves here.
https://awfulannouncing.com/fox/colin-cowherd-teases-move-chicago.html
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Hey PAMan, refresh my memory on how you “made me your bitch?” I seem to have forgotten.
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Hey PAMan, refresh my memory on how you “made me your bitch?” I seem to have forgotten.
Told you way before the season was over Fields was going to be tossed overboard.
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Told you way before the season was over Fields was going to be tossed overboard.
I don’t recall taking a real strong stance on that. I don’t think I ever pretended to know what the Bears were going to do for sure.
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I don’t recall taking a real strong stance on that. I don’t think I ever pretended to know what the Bears were going to do for sure.
Field’s just wasn’t good enough for the Bears to pick up his option. If he performed better or they saw him as the future, they would have kept him. Even if his supporting cast wasn’t up to par. The based him off his play. Period. That’s how the NFL works.
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Field’s just wasn’t good enough for the Bears to pick up his option. If he performed better or they saw him as the future, they would have kept him. Even if his supporting cast wasn’t up to par. The based him off his play. Period. That’s how the NFL works.
Wow, thanks for enlightening me.
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Wow, thanks for enlightening me.
Well hopefully you “grasp” it now. Or somewhat make you feel better. Your fascination with him is weird. He plain and simple, just didn’t cut it here.
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Well hopefully you “grasp” it now. Or somewhat make you feel better. Your fascination with him is weird. He plain and simple, just didn’t cut it here.
You totally enlightened me, dude. Thanks a million.
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Told you way before the season was over Fields was going to be tossed overboard.
You also said multiple times the Bears would keep him, because, Bears…
So basically, you couldn’t be “wrong”.
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You also said multiple times the Bears would keep him, because, Bears…
So basically, you couldn’t be “wrong”.
Will admit I got worried when nothing happened quickly.
On the flip side, whenever you are wrong you claim you never had a "strong" opinion on the issue.
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Will admit I got worried when nothing happened quickly.
On the flip side, whenever you are wrong you claim you never had a "strong" opinion on the issue.
I didn’t. I never made any guarantees or bold predictions Fields wasn’t going anywhere. I just said it was probably a closer call that most thought it was. I was always preparing myself for the outcome I didn’t want.
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EQ St. Brown to the Saints. Apparently they want to run the ball.
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EQ St. Brown to the Saints. Apparently they want to run the ball.
He's a great blocker I hear.
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He's a great blocker I hear.
He was a 6th round pick. The equivalent of what Poles got for Fields.
That should send a message.
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He was a 6th round pick. The equivalent of what Poles got for Fields.
That should send a message.
Apparently the Steelers wanna run the ball too?!
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Apparently the Steelers wanna run the ball too?!
No, not that message. Lol.
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No, not that message. Lol.
Fields sucks like EQ St. Brown?
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Fields sucks like EQ St. Brown?
Or I suppose that you could skip the talent part and just say they both come from top notch programs and have good work ethics. Lol.
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He was a 6th round pick. The equivalent of what Poles got for Fields.
That should send a message.
Weird comment. Trying too hard.
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Or I suppose that you could skip the talent part and just say they both come from top notch programs and have good work ethics. Lol.
Yep, trying too hard.
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Yep, trying too hard.
You were trying too hard to defend him for the last 2 years…
This should solidify that he’s not very good. Or, maybe not. You still won’t believe it.
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You were trying too hard to defend him for the last 2 years…
This should solidify that he’s not very good. Or, maybe not. You still won’t believe it.
Again, it’s weird you spend so much time trashing someone you allegedly “like.”
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Again, it’s weird you spend so much time trashing someone you allegedly “like.”
You made him out to be a fucking God or something, man…
He’s a decent QB who couldn’t cut it here. He’s got a good attitude, but not necessarily a good enough NFL QB.
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You made him out to be a fucking God or something, man…
That’s a fucking lie. I’ve said a million times he’s a mid level quarterback at this time, but still has a chance to be special. But not surprising you and others would greatly exaggerate what I’ve said. He’s obviously a great runner, no one denies that. I’ve never said he’s a “god” or anything close, certainly not in terms of his production. The talent? Is there, yes.
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Now look who is failing Justin Fields.
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Again, it’s weird you spend so much time trashing someone you allegedly “like.”
Also have you heard about the post Caleb Williams made about his draft outfit? Gotta wonder whether his head is all in the right place if he's worried about fashion instead of getting ready to lead the Bears franchise
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I heard. Hope he picks something cool.
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I heard. Hope he picks something cool.
Red flags! He also said his woman would be wearing something nice too! I guess the gay vibe is put to rest, but honestly, who gives a fuck?! Tempo?!
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I don’t recall ever commenting or caring about his sexual orientation.
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But my opinions are mischaracterized here all of the time, so not surprising you said that.
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Agree, I've seen Tempo complain about a lot of wild shit about a guy he claims to like but have never seen him question or criticize anybody for their sexual orientation (football player or otherwise).
A little projection from Judy there, which is par for the course with her.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/9QCX1Zk9/IMG-7165.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VdZckrms)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/9QCX1Zk9/IMG-7165.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VdZckrms)
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The sad part is you want them to and aren’t joking.
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The "bold prediction" was stupid. I'm sure Tempo thought it was funny tho.
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The sad part is you want them to and aren’t joking.
The funny part is it bothers you deeply.
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The "bold prediction" was stupid. I'm sure Tempo thought it was funny tho.
PAMan laughed.
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PAMan laughed.
I did.
Has Hoge seen it yet? Did you tag his Wall or whatever on The Twitter?
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Nah, too busy plotting my revenge.
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Interesting.
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10116985-where-do-caleb-williams-2024-nfl-drafts-top-qbs-rank-in-br-scouting-dept-era.amp.html
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Seems to be universal praise for this guy.
https://www.chicitysports.com/caleb-williams-ted-crews-chicago-bears-news
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Cheap ass organization…
https://x.com/670thescore/status/1782807140471546103?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Cheap ass organization…
https://x.com/670thescore/status/1782807140471546103?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
The McCaskeys are probably asset rich and cash poor; i.e., they are balance sheet rich. Can't use the team as collateral for any loans.
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The McCaskeys are probably asset rich and cash poor; i.e., they are balance sheet rich. Can't use the team as collateral for any loans.
Yep, exactly it. Need that 2.4 billion in tax payer money.
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The McCaskeys are probably asset rich and cash poor; i.e., they are balance sheet rich. Can't use the team as collateral for any loans.
Maybe they should start selling milkshakes at games
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Why wouldn’t a multi billion dollar franchise be something that could be used as collateral?
But yeah why would they pay for it themselves if they can get the taxpayers to pay for it?
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Why wouldn’t a multi billion dollar franchise be something that could be used as collateral?
But yeah why would they pay for it themselves if they can get the taxpayers to pay for it?
It’s all part of the racket.
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Why wouldn’t a multi billion dollar franchise be something that could be used as collateral?
But yeah why would they pay for it themselves if they can get the taxpayers to pay for it?
I had read that league rules prohibit using the teams as loan collateral. Don't want George losing the team in a card game..
Chump edit: league rules apparently allow you to borrow against non-control shares but there are cash limits...
https://theathletic.com/1299155/2019/10/17/nfl-biz-team-owners-have-green-light-to-take-money-out-of-their-franchises/
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New stadium…
https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1783185834490888461?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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New stadium…
https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1783185834490888461?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
That looks pretty bad ass. Who’s gonna pay for it?
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You are
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You are
Well I am high roller who has a mechanic and doesn’t ask the price on the orange chicken.
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That looks pretty bad ass. Who’s gonna pay for it?
Will block the views of all those nice historic michigan avenue buildings from the lake with a hideous modern blob and ruin the skyline
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Will block the views of all those nice historic michigan avenue buildings from the lake with a hideous modern blob and ruin the skyline
Fair point.
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Well I am high roller who has a mechanic and doesn’t ask the price on the orange chicken.
Glad we have you up there. Can you imagine the bribes that are already being thrown around?
Holy shit.
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Will block the views of all those nice historic michigan avenue buildings from the lake with a hideous modern blob and ruin the skyline
But, what about all of the accompanying tv coverage of Bears fans pulling up in their yachts and walking, or taking Uber, to the game. And the ones who don't have a slip to dock at can anchor, or whatever, and watch the game on the boat's big screen tvs.
How long does it take to get from Green Bay to the new lakefront stadium, by boat ?
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Ah yes yachting on lake michigan in the winter sounds fun
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please don't be mad at me tempo
https://suno.com/song/28ba7631-5ada-49ef-826b-8d28ba99fe38
Frankly I thought it was pretty empathetic to the Tempo position
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please don't be mad at me tempo
https://suno.com/song/28ba7631-5ada-49ef-826b-8d28ba99fe38
Frankly I thought it was pretty empathetic to the Tempo position
That’s fucking hilarious. And awesome.
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Whew!
I've been nervous you'd be salty about it.
I for sure laughed.
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That’s one of the top 10 things I’ve ever seen posted here.
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please don't be mad at me tempo
https://suno.com/song/28ba7631-5ada-49ef-826b-8d28ba99fe38
Frankly I thought it was pretty empathetic to the Tempo position
Pretty cool, Spark…
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It took about 10 seconds.
This was the prompt:
"An alternative rock song about Wayne being mocked by Adam Hoge on a Chicago Bears podcast for thinking Caleb Williams might have a bad attitude"
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It's no "lullaby for wayne"
But much funnier
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That song is hilarious because it's true
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☠️☠️☠️
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Damn man, I got chills 🥶
https://x.com/barstoolbigcat/status/1783495305603764575?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Tempo got the heebie jeebies
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Funny they had to do a mockup of a domed stadium to make Caleb feel comfortable coming to Chicago
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Funny they had to do a mockup of a domed stadium to make Caleb feel comfortable coming to Chicago
lol, good point
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Tempo got the heebie jeebies
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9w6RPS9/IMG-7279.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PL2vr2Ys)
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Quality rant from Laurence Holmes.
https://nypost.com/2024/04/24/sports/chicago-radio-host-rips-bears-for-using-pastor-to-pray-for-new-stadium/
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Quality rant from Laurence Holmes.
https://nypost.com/2024/04/24/sports/chicago-radio-host-rips-bears-for-using-pastor-to-pray-for-new-stadium/
Agree. That was pathetic…
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Looks like the Bears are excited. Especially DJ Moore in this video about drafting Williams…
https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1783656329434853785?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Looks like the Bears are excited. Especially DJ Moore in this video about drafting Williams…
https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1783656329434853785?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Looks like a dude being a good teammate.
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Looks like a dude being a good teammate.
LOL
It is readily apparent you are not over Fields being tossed overboard....
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Looks like a dude being a good teammate.
Wait…
Never mind…
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Wait…
Never mind…
No, let’s hear it.
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LOL
It is readily apparent you are not over Fields being tossed overboard....
Not quite, no. Moore publicly lobbied for Fields for months. I think we know who his preference was. But do you expect him to look angry when Caleb is drafted and he’s at a draft party.
Hell, there is a part of me that’s excited about Caleb Williams. I can have both emotions.
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Not quite, no. Moore publicly lobbied for Fields for months. I think we know who his preference was.
He was just being a good teammate. Amirite?!
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And DJ Moore’s preference was at the time his current QB. Did you expect him to say any different at the time?! Lol
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Not quite, no. Moore publicly lobbied for Fields for months. I think we know who his preference was. But do you expect him to look angry when Caleb is drafted and he’s at a draft party.
Hell, there is a part of me that’s excited about Caleb Williams. I can have both emotions.
As Judy said, he was just being a good teammate. He is probably jacked that someone may be able to throw the ball downfield on time.
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He was just being a good teammate. Amirite?!
I didn’t hear others being as vocal. He could have just said all along he has no control over that. Again, that he wanted Fields to stay but also is eager to accept Caleb Williams aren’t mutually exclusive. Both can be true.
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As Judy said, he was just being a good teammate. He is probably jacked that someone may be able to throw the ball downfield on time.
No. Not likely. He could have said nothing. Like most Bears.
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And DJ Moore’s preference was at the time his current QB. Did you expect him to say any different at the time?! Lol
No, but he was also very convincing.
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Looks like a dude being a good teammate.
Doesn’t the double standard shit get old?
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I didn’t hear others being as vocal. He could have just said all along he has no control over that. Again, that he wanted Fields to stay but also is eager to accept Caleb Williams aren’t mutually exclusive. Both can be true.
I’m sure no commenting the questions about Fields would’ve gone well.
DJ Moore is a pro. He wasn’t going to do that to his teammate then, and he isn’t now.
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Doesn’t the double standard shit get old?
Wut.
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Doesn’t the double standard shit get old?
Again, he can be both disappointed Justin Fields was traded and excited that Caleb Williams is a Bear. My point wasn’t that DJ hates that Caleb is the new QB, my point is “what do you expect him to do at a draft party?” Sulk?
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Wut.
The thing where when someone says something you agree with you say “this is what he really thinks” and when he doesn’t you say “he’s just being a good teammate”
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Again, he can be both disappointed Justin Fields was traded and excited that Caleb Williams is a Bear. My point wasn’t that DJ hates that Caleb is the new QB, my point is “what do you expect him to do at a draft party?” Sulk?
This applies to the comments about Fielss too. What do you expect him to do when asked about his current teammate and QB? No comment it?
He wasn’t going to do either of those things no matter how he feels, which no one here has any way of knowing.
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I’m sure no commenting the questions about Fields would’ve gone well.
DJ Moore is a pro. He wasn’t going to do that to his teammate then, and he isn’t now.
He could have just said, “I hope he stays, but it’s out of my hands.” He was definitely more passionate about it than that.
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Again, he can be both disappointed Justin Fields was traded and excited that Caleb Williams is a Bear. My point wasn’t that DJ hates that Caleb is the new QB, my point is “what do you expect him to do at a draft party?” Sulk?
Seemed like he was much happier with Williams was coming to town than in his prior comments.
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This applies to the comments about Fielss too. What do you expect him to do when asked about his current teammate and QB? No comment it?
He wasn’t going to do either of those things no matter how he feels, which no one here has any way of knowing.
If you think he was “just being a good teammate” in regards to Fields, that’s a stupid take. Sorry, he clearly wanted Fields to stay.
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He could have just said, “I hope he stays, but it’s out of my hands.” He was definitely more passionate about it than that.
By all appearances he’s a good teammate, yeah. None of us know how he feels about the QB change.
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If you think he was “just being a good teammate” in regards to Fields, that’s a stupid take. Sorry, he clearly wanted Fields to stay.
Well yes. Anyone who says something you agree with is clearly being honest and forthcoming. They have credibility.
Anyone who doesn’t is just being a good teammate.
It’s extremely transparent.
You have no clue how Moore feels about the switch from Fields to Caleb. None. You default to “the opinion I agree with is his real opinion”. Like you do with your own confirmation bias on so many things in this discussion.
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Seemed like he was much happier with Williams was coming to town than in his prior comments.
As Spark said, he’s a pro and knows that “business is business,” as his three word tweet after the trade eloquently boiled it down. He was at a draft party, of course he’s going to look excited. And he probably genuinely was. Both can be true, it’s not a zero sum game.
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Well yes. Anyone who says something you agree with is clearly being honest and forthcoming. They have credibility.
Anyone who doesn’t is just being a good teammate.
It’s extremely transparent.
You have no clue how Moore feels about the switch from Fields to Caleb. None. You default to “the opinion I agree with is his real opinion”. Like you do with your own confirmation bias on so many things in this discussion.
JFC, surely you are not making the case that DJs lobbying for Fields was an “act.” Are you?
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JFC, surely you are not making the case that DJs lobbying for Fields was an “act.” Are you?
I am acknowledging the objective fact that neither of us have any idea how DJ feels about the QB change.
You are saying it is clear that he agrees with you.
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Only in Spark’s everything and only everything Caleb world is “he can be disappointed about Fields and excited about Caleb” be not enough of a concession.
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As Spark said, he’s a pro and knows that “business is business,” as his three word tweet after the trade eloquently boiled it down. He was at a draft party, of course he’s going to look excited. And he probably genuinely was. Both can be true, it’s not a zero sum game.
Are you intimating he was liquored?
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Only in Spark’s everything and only everything Caleb world is “he can be disappointed about Fields and excited about Caleb” be not enough of a concession.
You’re making shit up again.
If you want to pretend you know how he feels about the QB change go right ahead. You don’t though, and neither do I.
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I am acknowledging the objective fact that neither of us have any idea how DJ feels about the QB change.
You are saying it is clear that he agrees with you.
DJ was very vocal (on his own) about Fields. He clearly wanted him here. Now that he’s gone, he can be excited about Caleb. What about that statement isn’t fair and likely true?
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You’re making shit up again.
If you want to pretend you know how he feels about the QB change go right ahead. You don’t though, and neither do I.
You make shit up a lot too. You just don’t notice it when you do it.
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You make shit up a lot too. You just don’t notice it when you do it.
Mhm.
I could easily make up and extrapolate and strawmen any number of opinions you state here. I try not to. Occasionally I have, for sure.
It’s pretty much the only way you discuss anything ever.
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Making the case or
Insinuating that the support for Fields was all an act is just…man, out there.
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Only in Spark’s everything and only everything Caleb world is “he can be disappointed about Fields and excited about Caleb” be not enough of a concession.
The list of people who have failed you keeps growing exponentially.
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DJ was very vocal (on his own) about Fields. He clearly wanted him here. Now that he’s gone, he can be excited about Caleb. What about that statement isn’t fair and likely true?
DJ was very defensive and praised his teammate when he was asked about it. I wouldn’t have expected any different no matter how he felt. Which I don’t know, and neither do you.
One of us is pretending to know though, and the other isn’t.
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DJ was very vocal (on his own) about Fields. He clearly wanted him here. Now that he’s gone, he can be excited about Caleb. What about that statement isn’t fair and likely true?
Again, what the fuck about this statement isn’t fair and likely true?
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Making the case or
Insinuating that the support for Fields was all an act is just…man, out there.
I made that case just like you made the case that Fields was as good as Tom Brady.
I acknowledged that neither of us know, and your reaction is to put words in my mouth and fight a strawman. As it usually is.
But the fact remains: not a single person here knows how DJ Moore feels about any of this. Argue the inarguable if you want.
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Lol. I think it’s more than obvious how DJ felt about it.
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If he was indifferent to it, he wouldn’t be advocating for Fields on podcasts and tweeting about it. It’s ridiculous to pretend we don’t have any inkling into how he felt about the matter.
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Lol. I think it’s more than obvious how DJ felt about it.
Works for me.
I'm perfectly content acknowledging that I have no idea. If you want to pretend you know, have at it.
He said the right things in both situations. That's what counts.
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DJ can be disappointed Fields wasn’t retained, and excited about Caleb Williams. Because he’s a pro pro. And both things can be true.
You think I didn’t know I’d get pushback (and from which people) on the “looks like he’s being a good teammate” comment? It was almost certainly a veiled shot at Fields, and I wanted to point that out.
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Works for me.
I'm perfectly content acknowledging that I have no idea. If you want to pretend you know, have at it.
He said the right things in both situations. That's what counts.
And I’m perfectly content saying he made his feelings on the matter pretty clear. Because to anyone willing to notice, he did.
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So you’re putting out there you think he may have been fraudulent. Got it.
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And I’m perfectly content saying he made his feelings on the matter pretty clear. Because to anyone willing to notice, he did.
Yep, pretend away.
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He’s not going on podcasts and going to bat for Fields and not tweeting about it if he doesn’t really care.
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So you’re putting out there you think he may have been fraudulent. Got it.
I'm putting out there that he said the right thing in both situations and that neither you nor I have any way of knowing how he feels about the QB change. He could absolutely be extremely salty they moved on from Fields, or thrilled - I'd have no way of knowing at all.
You are putting out there that you DO know how he feels about it, which is objectively false.
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Yep, pretend away.
Keep kidding yourself that nothing is knowable or pretty likely.
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For example, I have no idea how Braxton Jones feels about Fields.
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Keep kidding yourself that nothing is knowable or pretty likely.
I'll keep telling the objective truth, yeah. That I don't know and can't know how he feels about any of this.
Again, works for me. You're the one arguing that you know when you can't.
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Tempo and his double standards are gonna be argued for the next 50 pages…
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So you’re saying this is totally unknowable? That DJ didn’t lay some pretty clear Easter eggs on how he felt about it? Or you’re calling him a complete phony.
Again, I don’t know how Velus Jones feels about the Fields trade.
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Tempo and his double standards are gonna be argued for the next 50 pages…
Tell me what I said that isn’t true, or pretty likely to be true.
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I'll keep telling the objective truth, yeah. That I don't know and can't know how he feels about any of this.
Again, works for me. You're the one arguing that you know when you can't.
De Nile is not just a river in Egypt.
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For example, I have no idea how Braxton Jones feels about Fields.
The o line room thought he held onto the ball too long....
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Again, in one instance you’re saying he did it just to be a good teammate (regarding the guy you don’t want) but also saying he said it because he genuinely cared (about the guy you do like). Dude you never cease to amaze us with your double standards. It’s mind blowing you can’t see the issue here. Just baffling…
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De Nile is not just a river in Egypt.
You’re the one in denial…
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I'll keep telling the objective truth, yeah. That I don't know and can't know how he feels about any of this.
Again, works for me. You're the one arguing that you know when you can't.
I have a pretty good idea on how he felt about the Fields trade, and there are a shit ton of people who were paying attention that would agree.
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So you’re saying this is totally unknowable? That DJ didn’t lay some pretty clear Easter eggs on how he felt about it? Or you’re calling him a complete phony.
Again, I don’t know how Velus Jones feels about the Fields trade.
I'm saying that DJ Moore said the right things about Justin Fields as his teammate, and the right things about Caleb Williams as his teammate/future teammate, and that I have no idea how he felt about the switchover one way or another, yes. How could I?
If you think NFL players are going to throw their guys under the bus on a podcast or "no comment" a question about their current teammate, then you're extremely naive. He said the right things, which is what I expect him to do. He is and will surely continue to say the right things now that Caleb Williams is his QB too.
One of us is pretending to know how he really feels about this, and the other is acknowledging that neither of us have any way of knowing that. One person is speculating (in a way that coincidentally confirms his own bias!), and the other stating an objective fact.
If I were arguing like you are, I'd be saying "well he was obviously full of shit when he defended his teammate on that podcast and was just trying not to make waves." I'm not saying that though. I'm saying I have no clue, and neither do you.
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You’re the one in denial…
What. Isn’t. True. Or. Likely. True.
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I have a pretty good idea on how he felt about the Fields trade, and there are a shit ton of people who were paying attention that would agree.
You're welcome to have a pretty good idea of whatever you want. Neither of us actually knows, though. It's not like that's some arguable thing, like you can claim "no I -DO- know." You don't, and have no way to.
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Again, it's funny I didn’t see Braxton Jones and most other Bears weighing in on it (voluntarily) on podcasts and social media.
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De Nile is not just a river in Egypt.
Truth. Some day you'll accept that your guy didn't perform here and the Bears correctly moved on.
But today is not that day, obviously.
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What. Isn’t. True. Or. Likely. True.
We’ve.All.Already.Explained.It.And.You.Still.Don’t.Get.It.
”LOL”
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It sucks that you're spending all day here, the day after the most exciting draft in Bears history, still making the confirmation bias arguments about the last guy, who got traded for a 6th rounder likely to be someone's backup.
Let's move past it. Justin Fields is gone.
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Truth. Some day you'll accept that your guy didn't perform here and the Bears correctly moved on.
But today is not that day, obviously.
Maybe someday you’ll accept that Fields wasn’t given much of a real chance at success here, but today is not that day. That’s not to say that he doesn’t shoulder some of the blame.
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We’ve.All.Already.Explained.It.And.You.Still.Don’t.Get.It.
”LOL”
You did? What did I miss?
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I’d say Fields outperformed probably 95% of QBs that would have been put in his situation.
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Acting like we have no idea how DJ felt about the Fields situation is pure gold.
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Again, disappointment over Fields, and excitement over Caleb are both emotions DJ could (and likely does) have.
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I’d say Fields outperformed probably 95% of QBs that would have been put in his situation.
Insanity.
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Acting like we have no idea how DJ felt about the Fields situation is pure gold.
Acknowledging. Acknowledging that we have no idea how he feels about the QB changeover.
It’s not “acting like”. We have no idea how he felt about any of it.
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Maybe someday you’ll accept that Fields wasn’t given much of a real chance at success here, but today is not that day. That’s not to say that he doesn’t shoulder some of the blame.
I’ve acknowledged that he wasn’t in a good situation his first two years in Chicago (especially year 2) over and over and over again. Of course, a lot of good QBs have still looked like good QBs in bad situations.
Last year the team traded the #1 pick for a top WR and took a top OT at #9. They did everything they could to make things better for Fields when they could’ve easily felt justified moving on and taking a QB at 1. Instead they gave Fields a chance to prove he can be their guy long term. He decidedly did not do that, so they correctly moved on.
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Also worth noting that despite your consistently claiming that I’ve somehow been unfair to Fields, I was fully supportive of them trading the pick and getting him more help with the chance to prove he was the guy. The best case scenario for the Bears was always that he was the guy. He just wasn’t.
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Insanity.
Name me the very long list of quarterbacks who would have completely overcome all of the things Fields dealt with his first three years. He literally played with practice squad level players year 2, a year I’d argue is the most critical year for a young QB.
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And had a rookie OC who after two years the Bears said wasn’t good enough.
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Both Mully and Haugh made sure to mention DJs very public feelings on Justin. DJ also said “no one wanted him to go, but I’ll be excited to work with whomever they bring in” because he’s a pro and understands the business. Also doesn’t sound like a super happy camper during this interview. His tone sounds down beat.
https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=dj%20moore%20justin%20fields&tbm=&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:2ceadd2c,vid:5E0y7i0kV-I,st:0
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Also worth noting that despite your consistently claiming that I’ve somehow been unfair to Fields, I was fully supportive of them trading the pick and getting him more help with the chance to prove he was the guy. The best case scenario for the Bears was always that he was the guy. He just wasn’t.
Yeah, well it takes more than one good WR addition to significantly upgrade the least talented offense in the league. Go figure.
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Fields wasn’t good enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What they’ve added this year compared to last year is light years different.
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I’d say Fields outperformed probably 95% of QBs that would have been put in his situation.
so he's a top 3 QB in the NFL? lol
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Fields wasn’t good enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In your opinion. A strong case can be made either way.
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In your opinion. A strong case can be made either way.
No it can’t! Look at where he’s at and what happened! Are you blind?! Helen Keller?!
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so he's a top 3 QB in the NFL? lol
No, what I’m saying is most developing young quarterbacks wouldn’t have succeeded in those conditions either. Few of them would have.
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No it can’t! Look at where he’s at and what happened! Are you blind?! Helen Keller?!
Lots of NFL smart people thought the Bears should keep Fields.
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Yeah, well it takes more than one good WR addition to significantly upgrade the least talented offense in the league. Go figure.
The notion that they just didn’t support him is flat out false. They didn’t hang him out to dry, they spent their assets improving his supporting cast. They gave him a chance to show he can be a better than average quarterback, and he didn’t do it.
The notion that a quarterback needs a near perfect situation with more than one elite WR and a top of the league OL to be average or better is just fantasy for dug in Fields fans.
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Lots of NFL smart people thought the Bears should keep Fields.
Of course they did! They are out to beat them! I just linked that Mel Kiper Jr. just stated Williams might be the best QB he’s ever evaluated. Ever. No GM is passing on that with Fields at QB. Not a single one. Zip.
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No, what I’m saying is most developing young quarterbacks wouldn’t have succeeded in those conditions either. Few of them would have.
A lot of guys in bad situations have been notably better than Fields was this year. I know you don’t want to admit that, but it’s still true. He wasn’t on an elite offense, but he wasn’t on an absolutely talent bereft horrendous offense either. He just wasn’t good enough.
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Lots of NFL smart people thought the Bears should keep Fields.
And every GM in the league could’ve had him as a starter for a 4th or 5th round pick and passed.
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In your opinion. A strong case can be made either way.
Any case that Fields was “good enough” this year is laughable and I’m pretty sure you know it, otherwise you wouldn’t have needed to spend all season throwing everyone in his vicinity under the bus every week.
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No GM is drafting #1 is passing on Caleb Williams because of Justin Fields. Not a single one. You’re delusional!
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It doesn’t take more than to look at what they got for Fields and what they could’ve gotten for the pick to see that’s true.
If it was even a debate Fields would’ve fetched more in a trade, and be lined up somewhere to start this year.
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And every GM in the league could’ve had him as a starter for a 4th or 5th round pick and passed.
Crickets…
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No GM is drafting #1 is passing on Caleb Williams because of Justin Fields. Not a single one. You’re delusional!
Crickets…
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The notion that they just didn’t support him is flat out false. They didn’t hang him out to dry, they spent their assets improving his supporting cast. They gave him a chance to show he can be a better than average quarterback, and he didn’t do it.
The notion that a quarterback needs a near perfect situation with more than one elite WR and a top of the league OL to be average or better is just fantasy for dug in Fields fans.
It was still a below average unit with a coordinator they deemed not good enough. Most 24 year old QBs aren’t “elevating” that significantly.
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Crickets…
You waited a whole 30 minutes to post “Crickets…” I made my kid dinner and took a shower. Sorry I’m not responding to every comment in real time.
Actually, it wasn’t even 30 minutes.
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No GM is drafting #1 is passing on Caleb Williams because of Justin Fields. Not a single one. You’re delusional!
What is this in response to?
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I specifically just said that the Bears are moving on from Fields largely because they have the first pick and it’s Caleb Williams.
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Probably overwhelmingly GMs would have taken Caleb. But that’s also because of the contract. All things being equal, I’m not sure it’s so one-sided.
https://gridironheroics.com/chicago-bears-to-keep-justin-fields-in-2024-experts-boldly-predict/
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And every GM in the league could’ve had him as a starter for a 4th or 5th round pick and passed.
That seems false, as Poles seemed intent on sending Fields to a team he wanted to go to.
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Crickets…
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What do you want me to say exactly?
Fields got traded for a 6th rounder to be a backup. Thats what actually happened.
It’s tiring watching you tread the same ground trying to get that lipstick on the pig over and over again.
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I’d say Fields outperformed probably 95% of QBs that would have been put in his situation.
LOL. Now this is good comedy. Bagent had a better grasp on where to get rid of the ball and quickly than Fields did.
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Name me the very long list of quarterbacks who would have completely overcome all of the things Fields dealt with his first three years. He literally played with practice squad level players year 2, a year I’d argue is the most critical year for a young QB.
Dude, he played like ass. Did you watch him shit the bed against every zone defense? LOL. Denial Egyptian river indeed.
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In your opinion. A strong case can be made either way.
The League made their opinion known. He's a back up. Like Mitch.
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Lots of NFL smart people thought the Bears should keep Fields.
Yeah, everyone in the North who want the Bear to keep sucking.
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It was still a below average unit with a coordinator they deemed not good enough. Most 24 year old QBs aren’t “elevating” that significantly.
The fucking piece of sh1t crybaby whined about being coached. No one wanted him as a starter.
Remember when he was going to Atlanta? LOL!
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I specifically just said that the Bears are moving on from Fields largely because they have the first pick and it’s Caleb Williams.
If Fields didn't suck ass they would not have moved on and would have traded the pick.
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That seems false, as Poles seemed intent on sending Fields to a team he wanted to go to.
Bull. Shit. There was no market for him and Poles tried not to look like an idiot in front of The Twotter Morons for getting so little in return for the Greatest Sh1tyy QB Ever.
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What do you want me to say exactly?
Fields got traded for a 6th rounder to be a backup. Thats what actually happened.
It’s tiring watching you tread the same ground trying to get that lipstick on the pig over and over again.
Still waiting to hear which magic unicorn teams were actually interested.
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What do you want me to say exactly?
Fields got traded for a 6th rounder to be a backup. Thats what actually happened.
It’s tiring watching you tread the same ground trying to get that lipstick on the pig over and over again.
But it’s not ENTIRELY because he sucks. It’s because of the FA options, strong draft, and he’s only cheap one more year. And…apparently Poles decided to accommodate his wishes (the least he could do after basically sabotaging his career).
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I mean, look at Russ and the Steelers. How often do you get a Super Champion HOF quarterback who still has something left in the tank for basically league minimum?
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Russell Wilson’s stats last year. Pretty effin’ good for a guy who’s “washed up.”
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Ryan Tannehill is still good enough to start for a handful of teams. He’s currently unemployed. Because there were a lot of options for teams looking for QBs.
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Agreed. Bears could be very very good next year. If Caleb can play to a Herbert or CJ Stroud rookie level this team will compete for the SB IMO.
https://x.com/herbhoward411/status/1784272035935330754?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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🐻 ⬇️ we comin for the Championship!
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1784655555476206050?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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🐻 ⬇️ we comin for the Championship!
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1784655555476206050?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Why bother even playing the season? Just hold the parade now.
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Why bother even playing the season? Just hold the parade now.
I know, right?!
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I haven’t found them yet, but ESPN 1000 said NFL playoff odds are out, and the Bears are an odds on favorite to make the playoffs.
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Doesn’t look like the Bears new stadium is any closer than Arlington Heights. The McCaskey’s need to sell the franchise to someone who’s not poor…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40066053/bears-new-stadium-proposal-nonstarter
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5 billion? !!!!!!
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5 billion? !!!!!!
We spent that in Ukraine this week!
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We spent that in Ukraine this week!
One is a good reason and the other isn't.
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2024/05/07/caleb-williams-organizing-offseason-workouts-with-chicago-bears-teammates/
This guy looks like he gets it. As opposed to the last guy who sucked ass but knew The Bible cover to cover.
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See Tempo, THESE are the type of stories I was hoping to see about Fields last year....
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Fast forward 4 years and Tempo will be raking PAMan over the coals about how impressed he was that Williams organized spring workouts. (Probably at someone in his camp’s behest, no less)
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Wut
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https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/justin-fields-brings-together-teammates-for-extra-work
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https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/12/bears-justin-fields-organizing-offseason-training-with-teammates/
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Fields was probably having them practice blocking downfield for him during those sessions.
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https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-news/caleb-williams-keenan-allen-rome-odunze-front-row-at-chicago-sky-preseason-game/560664/
Need more studying playbook and film and less Sky games.....
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This dude just gets it…
https://x.com/dave_bfr/status/1788969755769987377?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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This dude just gets it…
https://x.com/dave_bfr/status/1788969755769987377?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Good to have a young QB who seems to get it and wants to be coached. Unlike the prior guy who complained about being coached.
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Hopefully someone will be able to get them the ball down field.
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Hopefully.
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There's only 1 ball.
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There's only 1 ball.
Interesting. Who knew?
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There's only 1 ball.
Weird. I have two…
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Interesting. Who knew?
You did.
Or, with a new OC and a rookie qb who is trying to get the ball to Moore, Allen, Odunze, Kmet, Swift and still keep it for himself do you think Moore and Allen "should only help each other thrive in 2024 ?
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Wut.
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Wut.
There are other playmakers than Moore and Allen. And there's a new OC, a rookie qb and 1 ball.
Whomever wrote that Moore and Allen should "thrive" hasn't even seen the offense.
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There are other playmakers than Moore and Allen. And there's a new OC, a rookie qb and 1 ball.
Whomever wrote that Moore and Allen should "thrive" hasn't even seen the offense.
So you suspect a Pro-Bowl level receiver and a probable HOF receiver coming off a career year won’t “thrive?” Yes, they will have to share the ball, but that doesn’t mean they can’t/won’t thrive. Will they both post career year numbers? Probably not.
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So you suspect a Pro-Bowl level receiver and a probable HOF receiver coming off a career year won’t “thrive?” Yes, they will have to share the ball, but that doesn’t mean they can’t/won’t thrive. Will they both post career year numbers? Probably not.
And I never said they can't/won't thrive. Somebody saying that they "should" thrive is hogwash.
Didn't you say that there are reasons to be optimistic about Williams but you're going to take time to judge him ?
And now you don't agree with the screenshot that you posted. ?
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They’re elite fucking players. I’m guessing they figure it out.
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I think at a minimum, Williams is likely to be pretty decent. It remains to be seen if he’s an all-timer.
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If Williams is 3/4s the quarterback everyone says he is, the Bears’ WRs should be in for solid years.
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He has arguably as much skill position talent around him as any quarterback in the league, unless he’s just plain bad, the offense (and WRs) should be good.
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They’re elite fucking players. I’m guessing they figure it out.
You sure about that? WRs can be really temperamental.
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He has arguably as much skill position talent around him as any quarterback in the league, unless he’s just plain bad, the offense (and WRs) should be good.
Is this the last 24 hours ?
Mid-May, and Moore and Allen should thrive. If they don't, it's going to be the rookie qb's fault. Even tho there is plenty to be optimistic about you're going to take your time judging him.
Your last few posts .....
I'm guessing
likely
remains to be seen
should
should
Lol
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I feel like I’m pretty clear. I expect his floor to be high. It’s his ceiling I’m wondering if he reaches. I expect more than a high floor from the top prospect since Andrew Luck, however. I’ll wait to see him play before I judge him. Don’t see what’s controversial about that.
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I feel like I’m pretty clear. I expect his floor to be high. It’s his ceiling I’m wondering if he reaches. I expect more than a high floor from the top prospect since Andrew Luck, however. I’ll wait to see him play before I judge him. Don’t see what’s controversial about that.
That's all well and good but it's a far cry from Moore and Allen "should thrive".
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The 2024 schedule. Bears open at home against the Titans followed by a Caleb Williams vs CJ Stroud primetime matchup in week 2.
Jaguars in London with an 8:30 AM start? On a Sunday? That's a no from me dawg.
https://www.chicagobears.com/schedule
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JFC
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The 2024 schedule. Bears open at home against the Titans followed by a Caleb Williams vs CJ Stroud primetime matchup in week 2.
Jaguars in London with an 8:30 AM start? On a Sunday? That's a no from me dawg.
https://www.chicagobears.com/schedule
I can remember when I was able to sleep past 8AM.
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Week 1 - Titan - Win
Week 2 - @ Houston - Loss
Week 3 - @ Indy - Win
Week 4 - Ram - Win
Week 5 - Panther - Win
Week 6 - Jag (London) - Loss (Eberlose will not have them ready)
Week 7 - Bye
Week 8 - @ Washington - Win
Week 9 - @Arizona - Win
Week 10 - Patriot - Win
Week 11 - Packer - Loss (Eberlose outcoached)
Week 12 - Viking - Win (Sorry Mn)
Week 13 - @ Detroit - Loss
Week 14 -@ SF - Loss
Week 15 - @ Viking - Win
Week 16 - Lion - Win
Week 17 - Seahawk - Win
Week 18 - @ Packer - Loss (Eberlose blows another one)
11-6 Playoffs.
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I can remember when I was able to sleep past 8AM.
I slept until 9 this morning.
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Week 1 - Titan - Win
Week 2 - @ Houston - Loss
Week 3 - @ Indy - Win
Week 4 - Ram - Win
Week 5 - Panther - Win
Week 6 - Jag (London) - Loss (Eberlose will not have them ready)
Week 7 - Bye
Week 8 - @ Washington - Win
Week 9 - @Arizona - Win
Week 10 - Patriot - Win
Week 11 - Packer - Loss (Eberlose outcoached)
Week 12 - Viking - Win (Sorry Mn)
Week 13 - @ Detroit - Loss
Week 14 -@ SF - Loss
Week 15 - @ Viking - Win
Week 16 - Lion - Win
Week 17 - Seahawk - Win
Week 18 - @ Packer - Loss (Eberlose blows another one)
11-6 Playoffs.
lol they won't win half their games.
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lol they won't win half their games.
I am a "glass half full guy." All the pieces are in place! Go Bear!
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Week 1 - Titan - Win
Week 2 - @ Houston - Loss
Week 3 - @ Indy - Win
Week 4 - Ram - Win
Week 5 - Panther - Win
Week 6 - Jag (London) - Loss (Eberlose will not have them ready)
Week 7 - Bye
Week 8 - @ Washington - Win
Week 9 - @Arizona - Win
Week 10 - Patriot - Win
Week 11 - Packer - Loss (Eberlose outcoached)
Week 12 - Viking - Win (Sorry Mn)
Week 13 - @ Detroit - Loss
Week 14 -@ SF - Loss
Week 15 - @ Viking - Win
Week 16 - Lion - Win
Week 17 - Seahawk - Win
Week 18 - @ Packer - Loss (Eberlose blows another one)
11-6 Playoffs.
No "sorry" after the win @Mn ?
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Week 1 - Titan - Win
Week 2 - @ Houston - Loss
Week 3 - @ Indy - Win
Week 4 - Ram - Win
Week 5 - Panther - Win
Week 6 - Jag (London) - Loss (Eberlose will not have them ready)
Week 7 - Bye
Week 8 - @ Washington - Win
Week 9 - @Arizona - Win
Week 10 - Patriot - Win
Week 11 - Packer - Loss (Eberlose outcoached)
Week 12 - Viking - Win (Sorry Mn)
Week 13 - @ Detroit - Loss
Week 14 -@ SF - Loss
Week 15 - @ Viking - Win
Week 16 - Lion - Win
Week 17 - Seahawk - Win
Week 18 - @ Packer - Loss (Eberlose blows another one)
11-6 Playoffs.
What's the record if Fields is still QB? 17-0?
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What's the record if Fields is still QB? 17-0?
2-15
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lol they won't win half their games.
Based on what? Your leftover trauma from the Trestman/Fox years? This team should absolutely contend for the playoffs.
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Week 1 - Titan - Win
Week 2 - @ Houston - Loss
Week 3 - @ Indy - Win
Week 4 - Ram - Win
Week 5 - Panther - Win
Week 6 - Jag (London) - Loss (Eberlose will not have them ready)
Week 7 - Bye
Week 8 - @ Washington - Win
Week 9 - @Arizona - Win
Week 10 - Patriot - Win
Week 11 - Packer - Loss (Eberlose outcoached)
Week 12 - Viking - Win (Sorry Mn)
Week 13 - @ Detroit - Loss
Week 14 -@ SF - Loss
Week 15 - @ Viking - Win
Week 16 - Lion - Win
Week 17 - Seahawk - Win
Week 18 - @ Packer - Loss (Eberlose blows another one)
11-6 Playoffs.
There’s actually a lot here I can agree with.
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Based on what? Your leftover trauma from the Trestman/Fox years? This team should absolutely contend for the playoffs.
It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't
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There’s actually a lot here I can agree with.
Well, I'm fucked now!
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Well, I'm fucked now!
So are the Bears.
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Based on what? Your leftover trauma from the Trestman/Fox years? This team should absolutely contend for the playoffs.
No because you have a 6 foot rookie ass qb with at best an average offensive line. And your non conference schedule is fucking brutal.
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No because you have a 6 foot rookie ass qb with at best an average offensive line. And your non conference schedule is fucking brutal.
Dude you’re gonna be in heaven these next 10 years. You have no idea about how good it’s gonna be being a Bears fan from now on. Bring it!
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This is the best I’ve felt about being a Bears fan in many many years, despite the fact I didn’t wish to change quarterbacks.
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With Justin out of the picture, I’m taking Caleb (if I’m Bears GM) FTR.
Me “hating” on Caleb. HATER!
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You laughed off my comment about red flags basically being confined to Greg Gabriel’s Twitter feed. I offered up several other mentions of red flags from other sources, and you laughed them off, too. We’re back to the “Who’s a football expert? Nobody!” argument again. No one or no story is credible unless Spark deems it so.
Are Josh Lucas, Greg Gabriel, Colin Cowherd, and multiple other news/scouting sources “credible?” No. But the schleps at HQ2 are!
The “Who’s a football expert? Nobody!” argument is one of my all-time favorites.
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Justin Fields has not progressed as rapidly as I would like. I also don’t think that means he can’t get better, or won’t.
Here’s me being a complete Fields homer.
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It WaS JUsT thE fRoNt oFFicE taNkINg.
They did it on the hush hush and didn't tell the coaches or players about it.
Lol
Mn, as usual so far behind the curve he’s underneath it and can’t see it.
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I actually find Caleb likable as a “dude.” Doesn’t mean I don’t have some concerns.
https://x.com/chicago_nfl/status/1768454567274901658?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
HATER.
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For Custard:
https://x.com/upandadamsshow/status/1793328741998838215?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Are you finally agreeing with me that the Bears organization and culture has been hot garbage for decades? Or that women shouldn’t be talking football?
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Where did I ever disagree that the organization has largely been hot garbage for the bulk of its entirety?
The part about women…wut.
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Illinois athletics have been hot garbage the bulk of their existence. What’s your point?
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(https://i.postimg.cc/C1zyPfmf/IMG-7550.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9GnVVLX)
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https://dawindycity.com/posts/chicago-bears-fans-need-to-be-patient-with-caleb-williams-01hy9dx12qvh
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The Bears will be on Hard Knocks. Would rather they weren’t, but should be some entertainment value.
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Is this thing on?
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Where is your OTA injury report? Want to keep on top of this for this year!
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https://x.com/jacobinfante24/status/1800260486744740256?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://x.com/jacobinfante24/status/1800260486744740256?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
That’s completely possible, but they haven’t even hit training camp yet. A little early to be doing victory laps.
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Dudes got his shit together…
https://x.com/nflrookiewatxh/status/1803528211361313156?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Dude has definitely been identified as a marketing vehicle and appears to have good structure around him. Hope he can meet or exceed the lofty expectations on a franchise that hasn’t had a marquee quarterback in …
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hasn't even played a snap of real NFL football, this should be fun to watch the expectations never get met
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hasn't even played a snap of real NFL football, this should be fun to watch the expectations never get met
Super bowl or bust
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Dudes got his shit together…
https://x.com/nflrookiewatxh/status/1803528211361313156?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I understand where this post is coming from.
(https://i.postimg.cc/k4Kb21KC/IMG-7903.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Don’t forget to thank Joe Biden for making a dollar worth .20 cents! So Caleb will be a Biden billionaire 🤣
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Bears got Williams and Oduze signed today!
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40576432/sources-bears-reach-deal-no-1-pick-caleb-williams
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40575643/bears-wr-rome-odunze-signs-4-year-227-million-rookie-deal
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Tevin Coleman sidelined with an injury in camp. Honestly getting hard to see this guy being a Bear next year. And he’s our “best lineman.”
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Tevin Coleman sidelined with an injury in camp. Honestly getting hard to see this guy being a Bear next year. And he’s our “best lineman.”
Coleman? You mean Jenkins?
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Coleman? You mean Jenkins?
Yes.
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Was a bit sleep deprived there for a couple days.
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Pritzker: Well, I’ve done a lot of research on this topic, but let me be clear, there isn’t much change. I mean, I made it clear to the Bears’ leadership that it would be near impossible to get anything done. If there was a proposal put on the table by them that could get done, you couldn’t actually get it done probably during the veto session and would have to wait until next spring. But in reality, there isn’t a proposal on the table right now that would be acceptable to anyone that I know in the legislature.
https://capitolfax.com/2024/07/29/todays-quotable-i-made-it-clear-to-the-bears%e2%80%99-leadership-that-it-would-be-near-impossible-to-get-anything-done/
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Can they just cut Nate Davis already?! Damn lol…
(https://i.ibb.co/RhYKgVQ/IMG-4088.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmXb2Rz)
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Ryan Poles, let’s make it happen…
https://x.com/schultz_report/status/1817727308410630217?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Bears will be great TV regardless of whether they're any good. Personally, I think they overachieve. Fuck GB!
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Ryan Poles, let’s make it happen…
https://x.com/schultz_report/status/1817727308410630217?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Maybe they can trade Tempo's guy Nate Davis for him.
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Ryan Poles, let’s make it happen…
https://x.com/schultz_report/status/1817727308410630217?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
That guy's come a long way since this
(https://c.tenor.com/1j8tZ4TuZZcAAAAd/tenor.gif)
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Can’t remember a time when Nate Davis was my guy.
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Can’t remember a time when Nate Davis was my guy.
I thought everyone who sucks on the Bear was your guy? Was that just Justin Fields? I kid....
Have you struck back at Mark Carmen on Social Media yet?
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I thought everyone who sucks on the Bear was your guy? Was that just Justin Fields? I kid....
Have you struck back at Mark Carmen on Social Media yet?
Other than “show me in real games” (in response to Caleb hype), I’ve not watched or interacted much with Bears or sports media. Golf more than anything. Been catching up on politics a bit. I’d never been as detached from political current events as I have been the last couple of years. Was tired of it consuming my time and stressing me out.
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Other than “show me in real games” (in response to Caleb hype), I’ve not watched or interacted much with Bears or sports media. Golf more than anything. Been catching up on politics a bit. I’d never been as detached from political current events as I have been the last couple of years. Was tired of it consuming my time and stressing me out.
Given how much you have on your plate, you may want to stick with golf, Bears, and Justin Fields. The rest will just stress you out even more than Fields will.
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Saw DJ Moore got an extension. First player in NFL history to have the first 10 years of his career all guaranteed.
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https://defector.com/why-your-team-sucks-2024-chicago-bears
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https://defector.com/why-your-team-sucks-2024-chicago-bears
Amazing
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Amazing
You know it’s largely tongue in cheek, right?
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You know it’s largely tongue in cheek, right?
He's right about Eberlose.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/KY8qggnz/IMG-8330.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QFvk2CYG)
Meanwhile, sounds like 3 of the starting offensive linemen are hurt?!
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(https://i.postimg.cc/KY8qggnz/IMG-8330.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QFvk2CYG)
Meanwhile, sounds like 3 of the starting offensive linemen are hurt?!
Thanks, Poles! More excuses not to start Williams this week.
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How is it that the Bears are always getting hurt in country club training camp? Do these fuckers sit around all winter and get out of shape? Seriously.
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How is it that the Bears are always getting hurt in country club training camp? Do these fuckers sit around all winter and get out of shape? Seriously.
It is as if the OL is made up of Eloy Jimenezes.
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We all know Owens is gonna pull a hammy pretty much immediately.
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It is as if the OL is made up of Eloy Jimenezes.
You see Eloy going on a tear for the O's? Like 4 of his first 6. Lol
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You see Eloy going on a tear for the O's? Like 4 of his first 6. Lol
And Kopech has had 3 scoreless innings, giving up only 1 hit and no walks. Only 2 Ks so far. I read some article claiming they made changes with him at the Dodger, but it lacked details on said changes. Intimated that they said focus on the fastball.
You see Reynaldo Lopez and Kopech having success and wonder if maybe there is a pitching coach problem on the Southside....
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(https://i.postimg.cc/QMw31m04/IMG-8399.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVQzdQrK)
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Lot of good it’s done
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Lolololololololol
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You expect a GM to come in and completely turn around the Bears in LESS than two years?
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Anyone who thinks the Bears aren’t in a significantly better position than they were two years ago is either delusional, or not paying attention.
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I hate money in football because the Bear won't spend it on good coaches.
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From the cap strapped/no draft capital futility of Pace/Nagy to:
1) Ascending probable Super Bowl caliber defense
2) Best receiving corps in Bears history (and it isn’t close)
3) Top QB prospect since Andrew Luck
4) Plenty of cap space and draft capital.
All in two years.
“Lot of good it’s done.” - Custard
Lol
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And that was with Poles throwing away an entire year.
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Hope you are correct on that Super Bowl caliber defense.
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Is the window opening?
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Is the window opening?
All the pieces are in place. Aaaapp.
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Is the window opening?
It would appear. And Vegas seems to think so. The Bears went 5-3 last 8 last year and it easily could have (should have) been 7-1. It seems we match up really well with Detroit, who many think is the best team in the NFC. A lot of it depends on health and if Caleb Williams can get the job done as a rookie.
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Could definitely envision a scenario in which the Bears are this year‘s Texans.
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Bears.
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Bears.
🤔?
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Must be referring to JJ McCarthy's knee.....
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Bears.
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Sounds like the Bears put it on the Bengals in practice. Heard they picked Burrow off 3x. Bengals reporter impressed with Bears’ offense, defense, and Caleb.
Interesting side note: “My goodness does Joe Burrow need Ja’Marr Chase.” Imagine that, high quality receivers have a way of making a quarterback better.
https://x.com/fox19jeremy/status/1824231327475847191?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Yes, we really can glean a lot out of preseason practices.
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I suppose it's nice that the Bengals reporter (probably the only one on the face of the earth) was impressed with the Bears. If he talked shit about the Bears, Tempo would be on here ripping his ass, but hey. Whatever.
This football season on here is gonna be another shitshow, isn't it. I need to not be here. Fuck man.
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JFC
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Sounds like the Bears put it on the Bengals in practice. Heard they picked Burrow off 3x. Bengals reporter impressed with Bears’ offense, defense, and Caleb.
Interesting side note: “My goodness does Joe Burrow need Ja’Marr Chase.” Imagine that, high quality receivers have a way of making a quarterback better.
https://x.com/fox19jeremy/status/1824231327475847191?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Doesn't matter if Fields is your QB because he sucks.
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Well, bye… 😭 😂
https://x.com/670thescore/status/1824468511843835918?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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What is Parkins "repping" bears fans going to do? Jesus.
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Something to feed the PAMan narrative that Flus runs a country club.
https://www.chicitysports.com/justin-fields-tackle-chicago-bears-nfl-news
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Something to feed the PAMan narrative that Flus runs a country club.
https://www.chicitysports.com/justin-fields-tackle-chicago-bears-nfl-news
Fields sucks
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Fields sucks
Had not heard that take before. Perhaps you could fill me in.
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Had not heard that take before. Perhaps you could fill me in.
It won't matter. You will refuse to admit you were wrong ever.
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It won't matter. You will refuse to admit you were wrong ever.
Lulz
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And they want to stay in Soldier Field?!
https://x.com/courtneyrcronin/status/1824838198578823594?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Turf management is not rocket science. Must have put progressives in charge of that too.
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Metallica's fault
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Terrible 1st series.
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Fire Waldren
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Keep Waldron, though.
Should have went for it on 4th and 1. Good situational practice for the offense, and if you don’t get it the defense has to defend a short field which is also good situational practice. This is a practice game.
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Gross
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Bear defense keeping Joe Burrow in check today!
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Some nice things out of Caleb in the 2nd quarter. Rome looked good, too. Gotta stay in-bounds on that TD though. He’ll learn. Defense has looked nice. I don’t put a lot of stock in the preseason, but I wouldn’t discount looking consistently solid, either. Excited for the next few years of Bears football.
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One thing that has me really excited is that I think we own Goff and Detroit. Have to learn to beat the Packers.
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Jim Miller looks like he bought his suitcoat and outift at a garage sale on his way to the game.
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Bagent for QB1!
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Again, I don’t ever get carried away with what I see in preseason (good or bad), but I really feel like the era of managerial incompetency is over for the Bears.
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Bagent for QB1!
He looks good!
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Man Williams is going to be super fun to watch going forward, the shit he is doing as a rookie is pretty incredible already. Im actually excited for a bears season to start
... wtf?
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Not sure how I’d feel about this. Would have to see the trade package, I guess.
https://bvmsports.com/2024/08/20/bears-eyeing-trade-for-raiders-25m-edge-rusher-tyree-wilson/
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Not sure how I’d feel about this. Would have to see the trade package, I guess.
https://bvmsports.com/2024/08/20/bears-eyeing-trade-for-raiders-25m-edge-rusher-tyree-wilson/
Totally depends on his health and his desire. With him on one side and Sweat on the other, that would be a great edge rush.
I would give up a 3rd rounder if he can play.
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Totally depends on his health and his desire. With him on one side and Sweat on the other, that would be a great edge rush.
I would give up a 3rd rounder if he can play.
If they are confident in his health I’m a yes on this same deal.
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If they are confident in his health I’m a yes on this same deal.
Yeah, at only like $8 million/year with 3 years left on a rookie contract it’s worth a swing and a miss if he clears injury concerns. Very low-risk/high-reward. DEPENDING on what they have to give up for him.
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Man Williams is going to be super fun to watch going forward, the shit he is doing as a rookie is pretty incredible already. Im actually excited for a bears season to start
... wtf?
+1. Couldn't agree more.
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I’ve been saying this for a good while. I think Velus could be effective in a Cordarrelle Patterson type role.
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1826815169709609084?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Bagent gonna demand more in a trade than Fields 😂
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Bagent gonna demand more in a trade than Fields 😂
Pittsburgh traded for the wrong guy.
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Helluva pickup/trade by Poles!
https://x.com/jacobinfante24/status/1827025243304521740?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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That's a great trade!
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That's a great trade!
And only one year left on his contract to show what he can do, in case Poles doesn’t wanna resign him for some reason.
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The guy was going to be cut.....
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The guy was going to be cut.....
Better to swoop him up now in my opinion than pay more in free agency. Plus I don’t think Poles is considering him a long term answer to possibly resign unless he blows up in his role. He’s an expiring contract to fill a hole for a year. Really a no-lose situation.
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So the Bears have played 4 preseason games and half the league has played 2? HOF usually meant 5 preseason games, no? I guess the extra rest is a good thing.
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Poles is very good at his job…
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Poles is very good at his job…
If the O line sucks when there are elements, like frequently occurs at Soldier, we may have an issue here.
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The OLine is the one real area of concern, but the fact that half of them can’t stay on the field more than 2 practices in a row can’t be helping. I think it’s a decent enough line (for the time being) if they can actually stay on the field and get some reps in as a full unit.
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Yeah, I mean he can’t fix everything all the time every season. There’s gonna be areas of concerns on every team every year. This isn’t Madden.
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Yeah, I mean he can’t fix everything all the time every season. There’s gonna be areas of concerns on every team every year. This isn’t Madden.
Did you hear me griping?
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Did you hear me griping?
Did you see me direct that at you?!
Why are you always in victim mentality?!
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Did you see me direct that at you?!
Why are you always in victim mentality?!
You have a long and established history of going directly after me and my posts, so I just made the assumption.
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You have a long and established history of going directly after me and my posts, so I just made the assumption.
All true. BUT it wasn’t directed at you.
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This time, at least. The season is young though. We’ll see about the future later…
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I’ll be here (I think)!
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Yeah, I mean he can’t fix everything all the time every season. There’s gonna be areas of concerns on every team every year. This isn’t Madden.
Except Poles is treating it as Madden. Focusing on WR and ignoring the O line and picking up castoffs on the D line.
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I won the single biggest argument in HQ history (and was pretty much on an island). My bonafides are not to be questioned!
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I won the single biggest argument in HQ history (and was pretty much on an island). My bonafides are not to be questioned!
It has been a steep descent since then though.
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No big surprises on cut day.
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This Jay guy knows ball.
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This Jay guy knows ball.
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They believed they did have the QB and HC in place. But because it’s the Bears they didn’t and that’s why they suck.
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They believed they did have the QB and HC in place. But because it’s the Bears they didn’t and that’s why they suck.
Right, they believed in a rookie HC and an unproven quarterback. And it was Ryan Pace, who’s a moron.
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They believed they did have the QB and HC in place. But because it’s the Bears they didn’t and that’s why they suck.
And that is the exact case I made, that I got skewered here for daily for what seemed like a decade.
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And that is the exact case I made, that I got skewered here for daily for what seemed like a decade.
You got skewered by idiots like Mini Ditka (who claimed to be a draft QB guru if I remember correctly) and a mentally ill Spark.
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You got skewered by idiots like Mini Ditka (who claimed to be a draft QB guru if I remember correctly) and a mentally ill Spark.
And Judy. I think Royko too?
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And Judy. I think Royko too?
Now I am thinking it was Royko who claimed to be the QB Draft Guru and not Mini Ditka.
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Now I am thinking it was Royko who claimed to be the QB Draft Guru and not Mini Ditka.
As I remember it, Royko said he excelled at line play, not QB.
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Shocking how many people are picking the wrong answer. It’s Tommie Harris (for this team) and it’s not close.
https://x.com/sadeeknextwave/status/1828885266393608255?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Shocking how many people are picking the wrong answer. It’s Tommie Harris (for this team) and it’s not close.
https://x.com/sadeeknextwave/status/1828885266393608255?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Olin. Not even close.
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Shocking how many people are picking the wrong answer. It’s Tommie Harris (for this team) and it’s not close.
https://x.com/sadeeknextwave/status/1828885266393608255?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
I agree with your comment in the responses, Hector…
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Olin. Not even close.
I’ve got him a close 2nd choice.
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Olin. Not even close.
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I’ve got him a close 2nd choice.
Would love to have an Olin Kreutz on this team, but if you have a chance to add a guy who was the favorite for DPOY before getting hurt at the premium position of the defense, on a defense that needs that kind of player; it’s a no-brainer. The choice is Tommie. He gives the Bears probably the #1 defense in the league. Olin makes an average OLine better, but doesn’t have the same impact.
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I agree with your comment in the responses, Hector…
Si si puede!
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I practically worship Olin, but Tommie gets you closer to a Super Bowl.
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I practically worship Olin, but Tommie gets you closer to a Super Bowl.
No, he doesn't.
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You’ve made a strong case.
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Ok, ok, Danny Parkins is spot on here 😂 savage!
https://x.com/dannyparkins/status/1832165093280227520?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/chicago-bears/news/insider-says-bears-ryan-poles-fleeced-seahawks-last-minute-preseason-trade/4dc01dc43ff693196387a842
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I do think the guy can be pretty good with the ball in his hands. The problem is getting it there, and keeping it there. I see him possibly shining in a Cordarrelle Patterson type role. But not as a feature back.
https://x.com/sixpointsports/status/1833954240500564100?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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I do think the guy can be pretty good with the ball in his hands. The problem is getting it there, and keeping it there. I see him possibly shining in a Cordarrelle Patterson type role. But not as a feature back.
https://x.com/sixpointsports/status/1833954240500564100?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Cut his ass. I’ve seen enough bad shit.
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Cut his ass. I’ve seen enough bad shit.
Yeah, this fucking guy on Sunday was literally standing by himself. All he had to do was catch a fucking football. Then run with it. He's an NFL football player.
He muffed it and turned it over. He has no value. Unless he can somehow be a running back, but if he drops the fucking football all the time, and is stupid, can't trust him there either.
Poles made a mistake here. They're still trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Cut him. I really don't think another NFL team is anxious to pick him up.
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Oh yeah, he was almost certainly a bad pick, and I hated it on draft day. If you’ve spent 6 years in college and only had 1 good year, you’re almost certainly not good at football. I’m not sure cutting him does much for you right now, though. They’d just be adding some other scrub with no upside. If he messes up again, via con dios (dios being Bernstein, obviously).
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I do like his ability to run with the ball. Unfortunately he’s a worse position player than Devin Hester, and not nearly as valuable.
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He returned kicks in college, so I’m assuming it wasn’t always this bad. Wonder if it’s all mental for him now.
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Oh yeah, he was almost certainly a bad pick, and I hated it on draft day. If you’ve spent 6 years in college and only had 1 good year, you’re almost certainly not good at football. I’m not sure cutting him does much for you right now, though. They’d just be adding some other scrub with no upside. If he messes up again, via con dios (dios being Bernstein, obviously).
That's fair, but he's already messed up enough for me. He really should be gone.
With that being said, now he'll probably kick ass the rest of the year, lol.
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With Allen and Odunze both possibly being out this week, this could be the game you throw Velus a few screens and see if he can do anything with them. If he blows it, adios.
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Bears had 10 QB hits on Sunday. They don’t get their 10th QB hit last year until game 4. And that was with Montez having a quiet game.
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I don't have a good feeling about this Houston game. If I was a betting man, I'd give the points. Big time coaching mismatch!
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I don't have a good feeling about this Houston game. If I was a betting man, I'd give the points. Big time coaching mismatch!
Risking the wrath of The Demon here.
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I don't have a good feeling about this Houston game. If I was a betting man, I'd give the points. Big time coaching mismatch!
Probably no Rome and no Keenan, too. Going to take a much better effort and a well coached game to win this week.
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Going to take...a well coached game to win this week.
Good luck with that
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For those who think the season is already a lost cause: 7 very very winnable games in a row.
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I love that divisional play doesn’t start until week 11.
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Lol wtf is going on here? I’m becoming more and more convinced the Oline problems are largely a coaching thing.
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First time I’ve seen this guy’s YouTube channel. Gives us a good look at the line. Basically says there’s plenty of blame to go around. Thinks it will get better. Cant say there was anything I disagreed with here.
https://youtu.be/I0TRp5i-Ozs
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Lol wtf is going on here? I’m becoming more and more convinced the Oline problems are largely a coaching thing.
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I told you, PFF is guys like you and me doing the "grading" with zero understanding of which players are actually performing as assigned and who is fucking up.
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Ok, so who can we trust for some kind of reasonable unbiased measurement? Besides you.
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Until we have a better source of player performance measurement (besides you), I think I’m sticking with PFF. Realizing they may not be “perfect.”
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So like Suzy down at the Dairy Queen can get a job grading for PFF with no experience?
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I don't know. I think that by the time you get to the NFL, as an O lineman, you really should understand pretty much every scheme and how to block it. I'm not sure how much coaching really needs to be done for these guys. Other than if something shows up on film where a guy is using awful technique or just plain missing what he should be hitting. Offensive linemen actually have to have some intelligence to play that position effectively. I feel like by the time you make it to this level, you really shouldn't need to be coached on how to block shit up.
Now, if the problem is motivation, I guess that's a different story. Is Lucas Patrick more motivated to do a good job with his current squad? Maybe. I really don't have an answer as to why these things happen. Then again, it's only two weeks into the season. Those guys have plenty of time to start sucking again.
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So like Suzy down at the Dairy Queen can get a job grading for PFF with no experience?
Don't forget to pick Suzy up. She needs a ride to work.
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Coaching absolutely matters, I can tell you that. Going from college to NFL is like having your bachelors and going straight to doctorate.
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I think scheme and coaching are a big part of the problem for the Bears. I’m not an expert, but it’s not hard to see these guys aren’t really on the same
page a lot of plays. If it looked like this in camp (probably didn’t because no one plays hard anymore until the regular season) they should have been playing in preseason games.
I’m struggling to understand why Shelton is so bad. I can’t imagine he’d start two years for McVay if he was always this bad. I believe they (the Rams) even re-signed him.
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Coaching absolutely matters, I can tell you that. Going from college to NFL is like having your bachelors and going straight to doctorate.
The speed of the game is what is different. There are only so many offenses you can run, only so many guys that need to be blocked. Sure, defenses are more complex and disguised, and coaching helps with that. But at the end of the day, Lucas Patrick didn't go from a piece of shit to the best center in the league from being coached in training camp.
I don't know what went on with those guys last year. Maybe they weren't coached particularly well, but they also would tell you that they have always known how to block, and how to process a defense.
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I think scheme and coaching are a big part of the problem for the Bears. I’m not an expert, but it’s not hard to see these guys aren’t really on the same
page a lot of plays. If it looked like this in camp (probably didn’t because no one plays hard anymore until the regular season) they should have been playing in preseason games.
I’m struggling to understand why Shelton is so bad. I can’t imagine he’d start two years for McVay if he was always this bad. I believe they (the Rams) even re-signed him.
Shelton is absolutely terrible. I don't understand it either, but he needs to get his shit together.
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One thing Shelton did have with the Rams. Matt Stafford. He's seen some shit, and can identify pretty much every defense at this point. Caleb Williams isn't there. Justin Fields, obviously, wasn't there. Still isn't.
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With that being said, that doesn't excuse how he is a turnstile in the middle.
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The speed of the game is what is different. There are only so many offenses you can run, only so many guys that need to be blocked. Sure, defenses are more complex and disguised, and coaching helps with that. But at the end of the day, Lucas Patrick didn't go from a piece of shit to the best center in the league from being coached in training camp.
I don't know what went on with those guys last year. Maybe they weren't coached particularly well, but they also would tell you that they have always known how to block, and how to process a defense.
He’s not playing center, he was switched to guard (maybe a reason for his good play). But I wouldn’t call him the best anything in the league at this time.
Yes, the speed of the game is a huge hurdle, but I think you overestimate how much some of these kids are being taught and absorb. Mitch didn’t even know what a hardcount was coming out of college and he was the 2nd player drafted.
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He’s not playing center, he was switched to guard (maybe a reason for his good play). But I wouldn’t call him the best anything in the league at this time.
Yes, the speed of the game is a huge hurdle, but I think you overestimate how much some of these kids are being taught and absorb. Mitch didn’t even know what a hardcount was coming out of college and he was the 2nd player drafted.
Well, Mitch was, and still is, a dumbass. Ryan Pace is even dumber for trading up for him.
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Brett Favre admitted to not knowing what a nickel defense was until his 2nd year as a pro.
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Not sure you are using the best examples here, Tempo.
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Not sure you are using the best examples here, Tempo.
No? First ballot HOF quarterback and 1st overall QB drafted are bad examples?
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No? First ballot HOF quarterback and 1st overall QB drafted are bad examples?
Have either of them proven to be remotely intelligent?
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No? First ballot HOF quarterback and 1st overall QB drafted are bad examples?
And your guy drafted that idiot Mitch.
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Have either of them proven to be remotely intelligent?
Do you think the NFL is loaded with future doctorate candidates? Ever heard Tyreek Hill speak?
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And your guy drafted that idiot Mitch.
Pace? Pace was never “my guy.” I had serious doubts about that guy when he tried to bring in Ray MacDonald his first two months on the job.
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Do you think the NFL is loaded with future doctorate candidates? Ever heard Tyreek Hill speak?
I heard him eloquently complain about the local police.
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And I despise giving up draft picks to move up in the draft. Something Pace did regularly. Mitch being the best/worst example.
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Watching more and more film. Shelton is just getting bench pressed into Caleb just down after down. How bad must Doug Kramer be if he’s been here 3 years, and can’t see the field after watching this? Why has he been here 3 years? Shelton is a mystery. No way he was this bad in LA. Maybe he’s playing hurt? IDK.
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Watching more and more film. Shelton is just getting bench pressed into Caleb just down after down. How bad must Doug Kramer be if he’s been here 3 years, and can’t see the field after watching this? Why has he been here 3 years? Shelton is a mystery. No way he was this bad in LA. Maybe he’s playing hurt? IDK.
You appear to be panicking after 2 games.
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You appear to be panicking after 2 games.
Not at all. I said I still expect 10 wins. Maybe 11. You’re the one who’s disturbed we didn’t dominate every phase of every half so far. I’ve said multiple times I expect things to improve.
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Don't forget to pick Suzy up. She needs a ride to work.
Was 1,000% sure that one was coming. I teed that one up for you knowing you’d swing at it.
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I told you, PFF is guys like you and me doing the "grading" with zero understanding of which players are actually performing as assigned and who is fucking up.
Seems like there’s some training at least. I on the other hand have not been trained to grade football play. How about you?
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And your guy drafted that idiot Mitch.
This accusation cracks me up.
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Was 1,000% sure that one was coming. I teed that one up for you knowing you’d swing at it.
Well, if you put it on the tee and hand me a bat, I'm gonna crush it. Why wouldn't I?
You know me better than that.
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Well, if you put it on the tee and hand me a bat, I'm gonna crush it. Why wouldn't I?
You know me better than that.
I’d like to know you better, so that I can use “it” against you at a later time!
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This year is going to be interesting. In no way am I expecting 10 wins. The defense has played great, but I don't think it will hold up unless the offense dramatically improves, and I just don't see it.
They have to do something about the line. Have to. If they don't, we're gonna see Bagent. Because Caleb will not survive.
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I’d like to know you better, so that I can use “it” against you at a later time!
Haha, well played, sir.
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This year is going to be interesting. In no way am I expecting 10 wins. The defense has played great, but I don't think it will hold up unless the offense dramatically improves, and I just don't see it.
They have to do something about the line. Have to. If they don't, we're gonna see Bagent. Because Caleb will not survive.
I just posted their next 7 games. Which ones do you see them losing? If they stay reasonably healthy, I think 5-6 wins is pretty realistic. I don’t think Minnesota and Detroit are sweeping the Bears.
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The good news is those might be the best two fronts we see all year. At least until he get to Aiden Hutchinson.
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I just posted their next 7 games. Which ones do you see them losing? If they stay reasonably healthy, I think 5-6 wins is pretty realistic. I don’t think Minnesota and Detroit are sweeping the Bears.
It's the NFL. It's a week to week league. Did you see the 49ers losing to the Vikings last week? I sure as hell didn't.
I am not comfortable with this team and the Oline at the moment. The defense is better than I thought it would be. I need to see dramatic improvement out of the offense.
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We all do. Waldron looks every bit as bad as Getsy right now.
So I was just looking to maybe pick up a TE in fantasy because Engram is questionable (missed last week) and I’m holding Hockenson who’s on the PUP list. I realize I’m in a 10 team league and not 6, but TE is gross. I wouldn’t go dropping Kelce just yet.
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We all do. Waldron looks every bit as bad as Getsy right now.
So I was just looking to maybe pick up a TE in fantasy because Engram is questionable (missed last week) and I’m holding Hockenson who’s on the PUP list. I realize I’m in a 10 team league and not 6, but TE is gross. I wouldn’t go dropping Kelce just yet.
I didn't. I picked up Bowers. So, I'm riding with 2 right now, as much as I hate it. It's Bowers against the Panthers or Kelce against the Falcons this week. Need to think about it.
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Bowers is a nice add. Especially in dynasty.
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You could flex one if both start going off.
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You could flex one if both start going off.
I have Kamara and Devonta Smith currently in my flex. As long as AJ Brown is out, I'm not moving Devonta. But yes, I could flex a TE. Just would have to hold my nose first lol
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Oh, I get it. Don’t imagine it’s something I’ve ever done. But at some point this season you might have TEs 1 and 2 on your roster.
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Oh, I get it. Don’t imagine it’s something I’ve ever done. But at some point this season you might have TEs 1 and 2 on your roster.
True. I could also trade one of them, and get a decent return.
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I'll just note for the record that ThePAFootballIdiot beat TempoFootballSelfProclaimedAOTCExpert in the HQ2 fantasy league in week 2....
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We all auto-drafted…
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We all auto-drafted…
We have waiver wires....
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We have waiver wires....
There’s a reason those players weren’t drafted. Game 2 is too early to start cutting 98% of guys. Unless they are hurt.
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I’m 2-0 in the league where I actually drafted my team.
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Not that that makes me smarter at football.
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And to be honest, I think this morning was the first time I looked at our league since at least Sunday lol
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There’s a reason those players weren’t drafted. Game 2 is too early to start cutting 98% of guys. Unless they are hurt.
In a 6 team auto draft league? This may be why you are 0-2.
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I just realized I have AJ Brown lol. Who was not available. I guess I did swap him out though.
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I’m tweaking my team now, though! Just benched like 4 starters.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDYP3eU7yxA
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This reads as if ThePAMan wrote it. But truthfully, I can’t find a lot to disagree with. Not strongly anyway. I like that Flus isn’t panicky, but I’d also like to see some more accountability. I did not realize Nate Davis also skipped OTAs and veteran camp practices. PAMan has a chance at being AOTC here. Much like I was on Nagy. If Flus doesn’t make the playoffs, I think he’s probably fired; and probably should be.
https://www.chicitysports.com/chicago-bears-matt-eberflus-tone-deaf
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If we come out with the same stupid offense, some alarm bells will start ringing for me. I’ve been patient with Flus, but it’s time for him to show he can manage a team for game week. I believe Flus has some strengths as a head coach, but I’m not convinced he learns fast enough from his mistakes. He can make halftime adjustments, but does he make good adjustments on Tuesday. We’re about to find out. The Colts are a slight favorite in this game, but I honestly don’t think the Bears should be losing to the Colts. Not if the Bears have the right game plan. Which is run downhill at the Colts all afternoon. If the Bears have less than 36 runs in this game Flus should be spanked publicly.
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This reads as if ThePAMan wrote it. But truthfully, I can’t find a lot to disagree with. Not strongly anyway. I like that Flus isn’t panicky, but I’d also like to see some more accountability. I did not realize Nate Davis also skipped OTAs and veteran camp practices. PAMan has a chance at being AOTC here. Much like I was on Nagy. If Flus doesn’t make the playoffs, I think he’s probably fired; and probably should be.
https://www.chicitysports.com/chicago-bears-matt-eberflus-tone-deaf
I appear to be a victim of plagiarism
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I appear to be a victim of plagiarism
He’s been reading our texts!
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Honestly though, with Slowik and Ben Johnson out there, might not be a bad thing to fire Flus. Flus could be one of those point A to point B coaches. Probably would be much better for Caleb to have an offensive HC unless Flus can morph into prime Belichick.
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I'm not making a Bear thread as Tempo will just create one tomorrow anyway, but Keenan Allen out again. Appears to have Nate Davis Syndrome.
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I don’t think they are the same.
Go ahead, you make the thread! But don’t give it a long stupid name!
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I don’t think they are the same.
Go ahead, you make the thread! But don’t give it a long stupid name!
If I do, will you call me a fag?
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If I do, will you call me a fag?
Why would I call you a cigarette?
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This is not a Justin Fields post. This is a legit point/question. The last two years no team in the league ran the ball better than the Bears. Now, they can’t run the ball at all despite “upgrades” at RB and Center, and mostly similar personnel. Nate Davis is the oldest at 27, so I’m not buying that everyone got worse. They should be just entering the early prime of their careers. So either our scheme and play-calling sucks or Justin Fields meant THAT much. To have mostly the same personnel (all young) and get wildly differently results despite what werensupposed to be “upgrades” makes no sense. Not to mention, having improved weapons on the outside should be helping, too.
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This is not a Justin Fields post. This is a legit point/question. The last two years no team in the league ran the ball better than the Bears. Now, they can’t run the ball at all despite “upgrades” at RB and Center, and mostly similar personnel. Nate Davis is the oldest at 27, so I’m not buying that everyone got worse. They should be just entering the early prime of their careers. So either our scheme and play-calling sucks or Justin Fields meant THAT much. To have mostly the same personnel (all young) and get wildly differently results despite what werensupposed to be “upgrades” makes no sense. Not to mention, having improved weapons on the outside should be helping, too.
1. There is no question mark to be found in there.
2. Getsy says, "Do you miss me yet?"
3. Eberlose runs too lax of a camp.
4. Getsy?
5. WRs are generally worthless if your line sucks. Granted, there are exceptions to the general rule.
6. Getsy?
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If Getsy was the secret sauce explain why the Raiders average 20 yards less rushing per game than the Bears. They are easily the worst rushing team in the league. They average 51 yards per game. The Bears are at 72.
(https://i.postimg.cc/dtyyfNhN/IMG-8984.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3d3N4BC2)
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https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-offense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats
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“Getsy?!” Lol
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1. There is no question mark to be found in there.
2. Getsy says, "Do you miss me yet?"
3. Eberlose runs too lax of a camp.
4. Getsy?
5. WRs are generally worthless if your line sucks. Granted, there are exceptions to the general rule.
6. Getsy?
Not that I think you’ll delete this, but let’s make sure you don’t.
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Fields rushed for 657 yards last year, and 1143 yards in 2022. That certainly helped boost the rushing yards.
Didn't translate to winning football games tho.
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If Getsy was the secret sauce explain why the Raiders average 20 yards less rushing per game than the Bears. They are easily the worst rushing team in the league. They average 51 yards per game. The Bears are at 72.
(https://i.postimg.cc/dtyyfNhN/IMG-8984.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3d3N4BC2)
It is not as if he took the Bear players with him. They allowed their best RB to leave in FA. But they have a great WR and TE. All that is needed, according to you.
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Not that I think you’ll delete this, but let’s make sure you don’t.
Why would I ever delete it?
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It is not as if he took the Bear players with him. They allowed their best RB to leave in FA. But they have a great WR and TE. All that is needed, according to you.
Lol
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Why would I ever delete it?
Because you were embarrassingly wrong? But you don’t embarrass, so you’re right. You’d never do it.
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Fields rushed for 657 yards last year, and 1143 yards in 2022. That certainly helped boost the rushing yards.
Didn't translate to winning football games tho.
That doesn’t answer the question. That’s all basically word salad. How do you go from top 1-2 rushing team over two years to bottom 1-2 in one season despite having mostly the same personnel, and theoretically having several upgrades?
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That doesn’t answer the question. That’s all basically word salad. How do you go from top 1-2 rushing team over two years to bottom 1-2 in one season despite having mostly the same personnel, and theoretically having several upgrades?
I don't know, Tempo. If I had those answers, I would be coaching in the NFL.
I think the coaching staff hasn't acquitted themselves well to start. I also think blame goes on the players as well. They're not performing well.
I don't think 100 percent of the blame goes on a coaching staff.
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And, how the fuck is pointing out Fields' rushing stats word salad? I mean, he accounted for a lot of their fucking rushing yards. And, to be frank, those yards come from plays breaking down and him running the ball. That has nothing to do with how linemen block. In fact, it could be said that he got those yards because the line sucked at blocking and he had to make something happen.
Word salad indeed. lol
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Lol
You can laugh all you want, but he did not take last year's Bear line with him, did he? He could have done the Bear a favor if he had.
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Because you were embarrassingly wrong? But you don’t embarrass, so you’re right. You’d never do it.
Was the line better under Getsy than it has been so far? Yes.
Does Everlose run a country club? Yes.
Are WRs meaningless if you do not have time to throw because the line sucks? Generally.
Please tell us again about how they just need to run the ball up the A Hole....
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That doesn’t answer the question. That’s all basically word salad. How do you go from top 1-2 rushing team over two years to bottom 1-2 in one season despite having mostly the same personnel, and theoretically having several upgrades?
Do you actually watch the damn games? The fact is they are far worse. As I have been telling you since he got here, Eberlose sucks. Again, Poles so far has proven that he thinks he is playing Fantasy Football by trading for and signing guys to play OL who were going to be cut.
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And, how the fuck is pointing out Fields' rushing stats word salad? I mean, he accounted for a lot of their fucking rushing yards. And, to be frank, those yards come from plays breaking down and him running the ball. That has nothing to do with how linemen block. In fact, it could be said that he got those yards because the line sucked at blocking and he had to make something happen.
Word salad indeed. lol
You are dealing with someone who is in denial.
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This team, the way it looks now, sucks.
Actually that's not fair. The defense is pretty fucking good. Way better than I thought it would be. The offense, specifically that fucking line, is bad.
The line needs to be addressed. I really hope Poles can see that. Something needs to be done. We have enough fucking wideouts, and Kmet is fine at TE. We need line help and a fucking RB. Swift, unfortunately, isn't it. I don't think Herbert is either, but maybe we'll find out. Johnson runs hard, but not sure he's good enough.
Some holes to fill. Poles has work to do still.
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This team, the way it looks now, sucks.
Actually that's not fair. The defense is pretty fucking good. Way better than I thought it would be. The offense, specifically that fucking line, is bad.
The line needs to be addressed. I really hope Poles can see that. Something needs to be done. We have enough fucking wid4eouts, and Kmet is fine at TE. We need line help and a fucking RB. Swift, unfortunately, isn't it. I don't think Herbert is either, but maybe we'll find out. Johnson runs hard, but not sure he's good enough.
Some holes to fill. Poles has work to do still.
Kmet refuses to block....
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Kmet refuses to block....
So does the rest of the offensive line. At least Kmet can catch a fucking ball every once in a while.
He's no Adam Shaheen. But hey, he's fine.
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I don't know, Tempo. If I had those answers, I would be coaching in the NFL.
I think the coaching staff hasn't acquitted themselves well to start. I also think blame goes on the players as well. They're not performing well.
I don't think 100 percent of the blame goes on a coaching staff.
Never assigned the coaching staff 100% of the blame, but I’d probably give them a lot of it. It’s pretty baffling as to why this line would be much worse than they were last year.
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Kmet refuses to block....
Last year O’Sullivan called him a solid blocker.
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Kurt Warner said this afternoon he feels like it takes 12 months for a new offense to feel totally comfortable. But then you have Houston who last year figured out their offense in 4 weeks with a rookie quarterback. That’s not the norm, and an unrealistic barometer. But mild competence early in the season isn’t expecting too much
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You are dealing with someone who is in denial.
Denial of what? Wanna tell me again how Getsy’s run game genius is doing in Vegas?
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And, how the fuck is pointing out Fields' rushing stats word salad? I mean, he accounted for a lot of their fucking rushing yards. And, to be frank, those yards come from plays breaking down and him running the ball. That has nothing to do with how linemen block. In fact, it could be said that he got those yards because the line sucked at blocking and he had to make something happen.
Word salad indeed. lol
So are you saying he’s the reason the run game worked?
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Trevor Lawrence not exactly on a HOF trajectory. He was a can’t miss btw.
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And I don’t know that I’d call him a failure, but I wouldn’t call him a success either.
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Last year O’Sullivan called him a solid blocker.
Has he been this year? He whiffs more this year than a Sammy Soso would in a season.
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Denial of what? Wanna tell me again how Getsy’s run game genius is doing in Vegas?
Different players, obviously. Fields held him back here. You yourself said they were better blocking last year and coaching has something to do with it.
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So are you saying he’s the reason the run game worked?
No
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Has he been this year? He whiffs more this year than a Sammy Soso would in a season.
Not sure. I’m behind on my Cole Kmet tape, largely because Everett was getting a lot of his snaps.
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No
The it was word salad.
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The it was word salad.
No it wasn’t. You’re just too retarded to understand it.
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No it wasn’t. You’re just too retarded to understand it.
It was one of the more useless statements posted here in the last year. What’s your theory then? Going with the “taking it easy in the offseason (with no proof)” that PAMan is so sure of?
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If you’re making the point he had a lot of the yardage in response to why their run game isn’t good this year, you’d seem to be implying he was a major reason the run game was good. There’s no other reason to make the statement.
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If you’re making the point he had a lot of the yardage in response to why their run game isn’t good this year, you’d seem to be implying he was a major reason the run game was good. There’s no other reason to make the statement.
My point was that his scrambling masked a lot of poor line play.
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My point was that his scrambling masked a lot of poor line play.
So…he helped drive the success of the run game.
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Nope.
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Nope.
Lol ok
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Idiotic conclusion, but Ok.
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The Whitlock: It’s always those damn coaches!
Rational people: Who hires all these bad coaches?
The Whitlock: The front office isn’t the problem. They’re making all the right moves. Poles is a genius!
Rational people: So you trust the people that own a storied major market franchise that’s won a single Super Bowl in damn near 60 years?
The Whitlock: God isn’t real!
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Someone’s had a few hard ciders tonight.
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Custard is still mad at Old Man Halas for “throwing nickels around like they were manhole covers.”
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Custard is still mad at Old Man Halas for “throwing nickels around like they were manhole covers.”
Maybe you should be too. The sheer volume of time and energy that gets devoted to the Bears is embarrassing. They don’t deserve it, and maybe, just maybe, if fans actually held them accountable, they’d start caring about winning again. They clearly don’t care now.
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If you compare the Bears to the Giants, Jets, Oilers, Colts, Bills, Vikings, Chiefs before Mahomes you’ll find they aren’t that different. A few good years sprinkled into a large morass of mediocre to bad. Cowboys have sucked since the mid 90s.
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Sure, the Giants have 3 SBs, but two of them were fluke runs. Luckily for them they matched up well against NE. Outside of the SBs the Giants have been a long suffering franchise.
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The Giants of the last 8 years or so make the Bears look like the Steelers.
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How about the once proud Raiders?
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Sure, the Giants have 3 SBs, but two of them were fluke runs. Luckily for them they matched up well against NE. Outside of the SBs the Giants have been a long suffering franchise.
still waiting for another bears "fluke run" to the super bowl like 2006
fuck, that was a long time ago, doesn't seem like it
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Tempo is right tho. Why should Bears fans feel entitled? Other franchises are suffering too.
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https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/one-shane-waldron-tendency-reportedly-has-multiple-players-annoyed/
Tempo is actually a Bear player!
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It’s common knowledge and common sense. I played running back, and I preferred the I where I could see everything and get a running start. Think if you were playing what we used to call “smear the queer.” Would you rather be handed the ball with a running start, or have the guy with the ball hand it to you while you’re standing next to him. Of course you’d rather take it with some momentum.
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Running out of the shotgun is ok just to mix it up. But the majority of your runs should not be shotgun IMO. Shouldn’t even be the majority of your passes IMO.
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It’s common knowledge and common sense. I played running back, and I preferred the I where I could see everything and get a running start. Think if you were playing what we used to call “smear the queer.” Would you rather be handed the ball with a running start, or have the guy with the ball hand it to you while you’re standing next to him. Of course you’d rather take it with some momentum.
Didn't you say you were a wide receiver with great hands?
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https://beargoggleson.com/posts/one-chicago-bears-weakness-created-by-years-of-misevaluation-by-ryan-poles-01j8mw28h46n
Wes Trueblood III = ThePATheyHerUsThem is a match
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Didn't you say you were a wide receiver with great hands?
No, I was kick returner with great hands. I never dropped kicks/punts. Ever. I was the anti-Velus. I did play flanker freshmen year though.
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As a receiver I’d say my hands were good, not sure I’d say “great.” Steve Bennett on the other hand, that dude had great hands as a WR. Incredible concentration.
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But if I the ball in the position Darnell Mooney had that Hail Mary I’m probably catching it, yeah.
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I probably make that catch in high school. I never dropped a kick or a punt (similar catch with a little higher degree of difficulty) you could ask my high school JV coach, but he’s dead.
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But if I the ball in the position Darnell Mooney had that Hail Mary I’m probably catching it, yeah.
But are you in the end zone, unlike Rich, Lazy DJ Moore?
Speaking of rich, lazy DJ Moore, your guy Troy Aikman said on PTI yesterday that the route running has been an issue for the Bear so far.
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Yeah, that’s matches up exactly with that I just said.
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You did say you were a RB with very good hands.
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Yeah, that’s matches up exactly with that I just said.
That's why it is a quote....
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My hands as a receiver were good. Probably wouldn’t call them exceptional. Could make some acrobatic catches. Probably dropped a couple I shouldn’t have. Never dropped kicks/punts though. Ever.
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But are you in the end zone, unlike Rich, Lazy DJ Moore?
Speaking of rich, lazy DJ Moore, your guy Troy Aikman said on PTI yesterday that the route running has been an issue for the Bear so far.
The guy who’s their best route runner (by far) hasn’t played 2 of 3 games, so not surprised.
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I mean this should have been obvious by halftime last week at the very latest. It’s a big reason my confidence level in this coaching staff has taken a big hit.
“As for work out of the backfield, Swift has caught six of his nine targets this season turning that into 46 yards, compared to 68 yards on 37 rushing attempts. Meanwhile, Herbert's shiftiness and speed offers a great change of pace to mix things up from the other two backs, but you have to actually mix him in.
It seems like the Bears' coaching staff is beginning to realize this and we'll see if they actually change things up this time around.”
https://atozsports.com/nfl/chicago-bears-news/bears-run-game-could-look-different-in-week-4-dandre-swift-roschon-johnson/
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Didn't you say you were a wide receiver with great hands?
80% on 50/50 balls back ‘85
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80% on 50/50 balls back ‘85
Never said that.
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Good convo between Spiegel and Adam Amin today. Spiegel mentioned the Bears went shotgun 3 wide 4 times in a row inside the 5. Amin said your identity can’t be 3rd down screens and running from the shotgun at the goal line. I agree.
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Wannstedt said Swift is not a 1st and 2nd round back (I mostly agree). He said you line Kmet up in the backfield and you run the ball with Herbert at the goal line. I agree with that, too.
Also called Waldron’s run play-calling “rolodexing,” meaning just trying whatever rather than trying to establish things.
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It's clear that Waldron doesn't know his own personnel. It's also clear that the Bears offensive line is just that...offensive. No play has a chance in hell of succeeding when everyone on the line is too busy simultaneously getting knocked on their ass.
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But how do you go from #2 rushing offense in the NFL to #31 when you have mostly the same personnel and allegedly have “upgrades?”
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But how do you go from #2 rushing offense in the NFL to #31 when you have mostly the same personnel and allegedly have “upgrades?”
You tell me, Shane
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You tell me, Shane
Who’s Shane?
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Who’s Shane?
Yeah i noticed it after i posted lol
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Never said that.
I am pretty sure you said you were 80% on 50/50 balls one year in HS. I even made a meme about it. I admittedly added the ‘85.
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But how do you go from #2 rushing offense in the NFL to #31 when you have mostly the same personnel and allegedly have “upgrades?”
We've been through this. You just don't like the answer. Denial.
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Who didn’t see this coming
https://youtu.be/zoaU1QB7VzM
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I am pretty sure you said you were 80% on 50/50 balls one year in HS. I even made a meme about it. I admittedly added the ‘85.
I’m pretty sure I’m absolutely sure you pulled that out of your ass.
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We've been through this. You just don't like the answer. Denial.
Luke Getsy? The architect of the only run offense currently worse than the Bears?
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Luke Getsy? The architect of the only run offense currently worse than the Bears?
Was only part of the explanation.
Plus, as you said, he did have them second in rushing last year
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Another year of the same arguments, the same excuses, the same mediocrity.
Bears Football, 2024.
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Was only part of the explanation.
Plus, as you said, he did have them second in rushing last year
I think you listed 6 reasons for the decline in the Bears run game. The loss of Getsy was literally 3 of them.
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1. There is no question mark to be found in there.
2. Getsy says, "Do you miss me yet?"
3. Eberlose runs too lax of a camp.
4. Getsy?
5. WRs are generally worthless if your line sucks. Granted, there are exceptions to the general rule.
6. Getsy?
Actually, you sort of listed 5. Getsy was 3 of them. The same Luke Getsy whose Raiders are averaging 20 less rushing yards per game than the Bears.
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Actually, at best, that should be 4. So the loss of Luke Getsy is why the Bears don’t run the ball well. Even though the Raiders are easily the worst running team in the league.
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Actually, you sort of listed 5. Getsy was 3 of them. The same Luke Getsy whose Raiders are averaging 20 less rushing yards per game than the Bears.
His personnel is maybe worse than the Bear?
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Actually, at best, that should be 4. So the loss of Luke Getsy is why the Bears don’t run the ball well. Even though the Raiders are easily the worst running team in the league.
Do both teams use the same players?
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His personnel is maybe worse than the Bear?
If he were such a genius he wouldn’t be last by a mile. He “made” this current awful unit a good run team last year. He lost the touch? Maybe it was Justin Fields providing the cologne to mask the stench?
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Only PAMan is bold enough to point to Getsy as the secret sauce to Chicago’s successful run game while Getsy currently presides over what is easily the worst run game in the NFL. Far worse than even the Bears.
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If he were such a genius he wouldn’t be last by a mile. He “made” this current awful unit a good run team last year. He lost the touch? Maybe it was Justin Fields providing the cologne to mask the stench?
There it finally is! LOL. He tried to make him a game manager. He has since decided to accept coaching finally after being humbled by being traded for a 6/4. LOL.
Again, Getsy had these guys from last year and they ran block better then. He's gone and they are worse, despite allegedly being improved.
Looking like Getsy has worse OL personnel this year to deal with and no decent RBs. He has an equivalent QB and WR/TE though.
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Only PAMan is bold enough to point to Getsy as the secret sauce to Chicago’s successful run game while Getsy currently presides over what is easily the worst run game in the NFL. Far worse than even the Bears.
Again, he does not have the same OL personnel that he had last year, does he? Meanwhile, the Bear OL is now worse despite you claiming they should be improved.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
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There it finally is! LOL. He tried to make him a game manager. He has since decided to accept coaching finally after being humbled by being traded for a 6/4. LOL.
Again, Getsy had these guys from last year and they ran block better then. He's gone and they are worse, despite allegedly being improved.
Looking like Getsy has worse OL personnel this year to deal with and no decent RBs. He has an equivalent QB and WR/TE though.
There aren’t enough LOLs in the world for this.
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Again, he does not have the same OL personnel that he had last year, does he? Meanwhile, the Bear OL is now worse despite you claiming they should be improved.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
And you maybe topped the insanity of your previous post with this one. There’s literally no narrative you can’t talk yourself into and sell with confidence.
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Getsy made a talentless Bears offense a top 2 rushing team the last two years (per PAMan). Also PAMan: Perhaps he doesn’t have the talent (for why Getsy ranks dead last in the NFL in rushing offense, by a mile).
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And you maybe topped the insanity of your previous post with this one. There’s literally no narrative you can’t talk yourself into and sell with confidence.
I am just pointing things out for you to consider. You cannot say the personnel is the same so the results in Las Vegas should be the same as last year for the Bear. Should Las Vegas be better? Maybe. Maybe they are actually worse than the Bear last year though?
You appear to be saying that LV has better offensive personnel this year than the Bear did last year. Are you sure that is true?
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Getsy made a talentless Bears offense a top 2 rushing team the last two years (per PAMan). Also PAMan: Perhaps he doesn’t have the talent (for why Getsy ranks dead last in the NFL in rushing offense, by a mile).
We all know Fields had plenty of time to throw last year and the Bear could rush the ball. Just saying....
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They (the results) are not only not the same, they are as polar opposite as you can get. If he managed to coach the talentless Bears up to top 1-2 in the league in rushing, why is he last in Vegas by a country mile?
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We all know Fields had plenty of time to throw last year
Not on obvious passing downs. 3rd and 6 in the 4th quarter was getting blown up immediately with regularity.
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They (the results) are not only not the same, they are as polar opposite as you can get. If he managed to coach the talentless Bears up to top 1-2 in the league in rushing, why is he last in Vegas by a country mile?
Isn't it possible the Raiders are less talented offensively than the Bear last year? Organizationally they are just as messed up as the Bear.
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Not on obvious passing downs. 3rd and 6 in the 4th quarter was getting blown up immediately with regularity.
We have been through this. On average he was top 5 in the league in time to pass last year....
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Isn't it possible the Raiders are less talented offensively than the Bear last year? Organizationally they are just as messed up as the Bear.
Is it? You’re the same guy who last year said he’d replace the ENTIRE offensive line, and the quarterback wasn’t an NFL quarterback. And they clearly upgraded at WR. How much worse can the Raiders be than that?
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We have been through this. On average he was top 5 in the league in time to pass last year....
Again, you’re the same guy who in one breath would say he would replace the entire offensive line, and then turn around and say everything was the quarteback’s fault. You’re the absolute king of “having it both ways.”
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We have been through this. On average he was top 5 in the league in time to pass last year....
Do you have a link?
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Is it? You’re the same guy who last year said he’d replace the ENTIRE offensive line, and the quarterback wasn’t an NFL quarterback. And they clearly upgraded at WR. How much worse can the Raiders be than that?
A lot.
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Do you have a link?
Your memory sucks at this point! We discussed this ad nauseam.
Here's something I found quickly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/18rkp5r/throwthedamnball_2023_qb_time_to_throw_qb_accuracy/
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A lot.
Again, you’re the king of “having it both ways.”
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Your memory sucks at this point! We discussed this ad nauseam.
Here's something I found quickly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/18rkp5r/throwthedamnball_2023_qb_time_to_throw_qb_accuracy/
Who could question Judah at throwthedamnball?!
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That source uses PFF data. You’ve rejected PFF data in the past.
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I’d also be interested in how that stat is measured. Seems pretty coincidental all of the most mobile QBs had the most “time to throw.”
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This isn’t gonna make PAMan happy…
https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1840425883800416364?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Again, you’re the king of “having it both ways.”
Explain how I am having it both ways. Both can be true. The Raider personnel can he worse than the Bear last year.
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That source uses PFF data. You’ve rejected PFF data in the past.
Time is objective. Not subjective like their grades.
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Explain how I am having it both ways. Both can be true. The Raider personnel can he worse than the Bear last year.
You literally wanted to replace everyone. How much worse can it be than that?
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This isn’t gonna make PAMan happy…
https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1840425883800416364?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I'm just glad she is able to attend the game despite her mental health issues.
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I'm just glad she is able to attend the game despite her mental health issues.
Yeah, at least she showed up!! 😂
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Tempo favorite Rick Morrissey weighing in
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2024/10/13/you-have-quarterback-bears-fans-his-name-is-caleb-williams-keenan-allen-jaguars-cole-kmet
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This morning, as I was contributing to the Trump campaign by listening to The Score! Bernstein made a great point I had overlooked. This not elite, and not on the verge of elite defense was missing 3 starters in the secondary. Yet they still performed at a pretty high level.
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This morning, as I was contributing to the Trump campaign by listening to The Score! Bernstein made a great point I had overlooked. This not elite, and not on the verge of elite defense was missing 3 starters in the secondary. Yet they still performed at a pretty high level.
Good to know it took Bernstein to inform you of what others realized on Sunday.
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I knew they were down 2. Did not realize it was 3. Again, not bad for a not elite or not on the verge of elite defense.
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I knew they were down 2. Did not realize it was 3. Again, not bad for a not elite or not on the verge of elite defense.
You apparently aren't listening to The Score or monitoring The Twotter closely enough.
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We can’t all be Superfans.
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We can’t all be Superfans.
Well, at least Trump appreciates your support.
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Well, at least Trump appreciates your support.
Unabashed Trump supporter here.
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Nice video on rookie Austin Booker. “A bright spot on a defense with a lot of bright spots” on defense that is not elite and not on the verge of being elite.
https://youtu.be/rboOZPjm3NA?si=e-PXBlXjHMJohEHJ
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Nice video on rookie Austin Booker. “A bright spot on a defense with a lot of bright spots” on defense that is not elite and not on the verge of being elite.
https://youtu.be/rboOZPjm3NA?si=e-PXBlXjHMJohEHJ
DL holding them back?
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Listening to 670TheMAGA earlier and consensus was the secondary is elite. Linebackers playing at an elite level. D line solid but not elite.
Adjustments are being made quarter to quarter instead of half to half. Eberflus elite?
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Bears rank in top 5 in a lot of categories. Top 2 in some. Defensively, of course.
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But are they elite? On the verge of being elite?
(https://i.postimg.cc/4dcRq2pr/IMG-9231.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFsyJnWn)
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But are they elite? On the verge of elite?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Cx0CqRvD/IMG-9232.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnM692bk)
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The defense has overall been awesome.
Poles deserves a little credit for getting the D-Line into acceptable shape. They've been better than I expected, especially Dexter. And Taylor seems like he's been a pretty good pick up too.
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The defense has overall been awesome.
Poles deserves a little credit for getting the D-Line into acceptable shape. They've been better than I expected, especially Dexter. And Taylor seems like he's been a pretty good pick up too.
But are they elite? On the verge of elite?
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Guess it depends on where you draw the 'elite' line. They're definitely a top-10 defense. I think you could argue top-5 thusfar, but with a pretty light schedule.
Definitely the least of the Bears' worries.
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Guess it depends on where you draw the 'elite' line. They're definitely a top-10 defense. I think you could argue top-5 thusfar, but with a pretty light schedule.
Definitely the least of the Bears' worries.
PAMan appreciates the answer.
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Every single Bears opinion PAMan has is exclusively meant to troll you.
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Every single Bears opinion PAMan has is exclusively meant to troll you.
Don’t worry, I’m in on the bit.
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FTR, I guess I’d call elite top 3-4. Not sure the Bears are elite, but they may be on the verge of it.
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Don’t worry, I’m in on the bit.
It ... doesn't seem like you are dude.
You get worked up about his obvious trolling here constantly.
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It ... doesn't seem like you are dude.
You get worked up about his obvious trolling here constantly.
Worked up? It’s what helps me get through some days.
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Weird, man
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But are they elite? On the verge of elite?
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Thusfar, yes - absolutely.
In another 4-5 weeks though they're going to be in the most brutal stretch of games that any team is likely to see this year. I expect them to fall apart a bit at some point, but so far so good.
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But are they elite? On the verge of elite?
Elite, verge of elite, is much like calling a QB in the draft, generational…
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Elite, verge of elite, is much like calling a QB in the draft, generational…
No it’s not.
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Still more verge of elite or “elitish” than elite, but getting there.
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Ruthie Polinsky called the Bears’ defense “elite” on Mully and Haugh. She’s just a woman though, so what does she know.
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Ruthie Polinsky called the Bears’ defense “elite” on Mully and Haugh. She’s just a woman though, so what does she know.
Probably that Charmin is the king of toilet paper.
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The NFC North is not a joke.
How are the Colts 4-3?
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Not good.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hv5kCJFp/IMG-9279.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ctfkCLLn)
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Wow. Coming off a bye and still not healthy.
I'm beginning to really wonder about the Bears training staff.
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Wow. Coming off a bye and still not healthy.
I'm beginning to really wonder about the Bears training staff.
Country Club training staff…
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lol
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How have they not fixed his head yet? Hamstrings are almost never a one week injury. See: Evans, Mike.
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Yeah, I get it. It's not just this. Not worth arguing about, so I'm not going to.
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Bears finally cut the cord on Velus Jones (and Khari Blasingame).
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2024/10/25/24279754/breaking-chicago-bears-release-velus-jones-jr-and-khari-blasingame-roster
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(https://media1.tenor.com/m/m5_Yd2Fe0uwAAAAC/conor-mcgregor-its-about-time.gif)
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Weekly power rankings…
(https://i.ibb.co/Syp6362/IMG-4543.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B3RfCfm)
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Weekly power rankings…
(https://i.ibb.co/Syp6362/IMG-4543.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B3RfCfm)
But Tempo and Crazy SPaRkY said it was his fault they gave up a 50 yard Hail Mary to lose the game.
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Weekly power rankings…
(https://i.ibb.co/Syp6362/IMG-4543.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B3RfCfm)
Lol he’s also a big part of the reason they lost. He was objectively bad the first 3 quarters. Not that he was getting a lot of help from anyone other than Swift.
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That power ranking review is pretty funny. We’ve had like two good offensive games and they came against probably the two worst defenses in the league.
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But Tempo and Crazy SPaRkY said it was his fault they gave up a 50 yard Hail Mary to lose the game.
Show me where I said that. I can’t wait to see this.
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Gonna guess Spark didn’t say it, either.
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Billy Murray on IR (pec). Was kind of hoping to see more of him.
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Gonna guess Spark didn’t say it, either.
Both of you said the offense was the reason they lost. Stevenson and Eberlose not doing their jobs is the reason they lost yet another game with an over 90% win expectancy at the end of the game.
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Both of you said the offense was the reason they lost. Stevenson and Eberlose not doing their jobs is the reason they lost yet another game with an over 90% win expectancy at the end of the game.
I don’t think I said that. In fact, I’m pretty sure I didn’t.
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What I said was you would never let a Bears defense off the hook for blowing a late lead like you did the Steelers. And I said that weeks ago. And I was 1000% correct. Little did I know I’d get proven correct so soon. AOTC again.
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Eberflus and Stevenson cost them the game. I’m fairly certain I never said otherwise. I’d I did, prove it.
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What I said was you would never let a Bears defense off the hook for blowing a late lead like you did the Steelers. And I said that weeks ago. And I was 1000% correct. Little did I know I’d get proven correct so soon. AOTC again.
LOL. The Steelers had a 70% win probability when Dallas got the ball that last possession. What was the Bear win probability when the Commander got the ball? 96.4% (it is only that low because Your Guy Eberlose sucks as much as Your Guy Fields). Yeah, the scenarios are identical. What a joke. Fields and The COVID have ruined you.
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Eberflus and Stevenson cost them the game. I’m fairly certain I never said otherwise. I’d I did, prove it.
It only took you 3 days to come around. Plus no mentions of Fields or the Elite Pittsburgh defense.
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It only took you 3 days to come around. Plus no mentions of Fields or the Elite Pittsburgh defense.
Again, show me where I said the offense lost the game. I’m confident you won’t.
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Again, show me where I said the offense lost the game. I’m confident you won’t.
Sunday you re-argued the Pittsburgh - Steelers end for no reason?
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That does not say what you are claiming you said at the time.. we all know they should not have given up that play. The issue was who blew the game. Crazy SpArK said the offense and you jumped right on board with your Pittsburgh Dallas game rehash when I blamed the Bear D for losing a game where they had an over 96% win expectancy in the last series.
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Sunday you re-argued the Pittsburgh - Steelers end for no reason?
THE REASON: you changed your narrative (as I predicted promised you would) once Fields wasn’t involved. Whose fault it is, depends on which jersey Justin Fields is wearing.
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I told you and everyone else here you’d NEVER let a Bears defense off the hook for blowing a late lead in a weak offensive performance, and I was proven correct only 2-3 weeks later.
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I did not “blame” Caleb or the offense for the loss (and especially didn’t blame them for the Hail Mary as you claimed). You won’t re-post where I blamed them because it isn’t there. You won’t find it. I didn’t blame the offense for the loss, I merely pointed out your purposeful inconsistency.
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That does not say what you are claiming you said at the time.. we all know they should not have given up that play. The issue was who blew the game. Crazy SpArK said the offense and you jumped right on board with your Pittsburgh Dallas game rehash when I blamed the Bear D for losing a game where they had an over 96% win expectancy in the last series.
You cannot be this dense.
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You cannot be this dense.
Of course you ignore that I agreed with you.
The fact is the Bear had over 96% win expectancy on that last series and lost on a 52 yard bomb that was botched by Stevenson and Your Guy Eberlose. Yet this is a somehow validating of your views of the Steeler Dallas game? That's laughable, dude. The two are not remotely even close.
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Again, all you have to do is reproduce the post where I specifically blamed Caleb and the offense for the loss. You won’t. Because you can’t. It doesn’t exist.
I brought up the Steelers to expose your double standard. And you changed your narrative when it happened to the Bears, just as I said you would.
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I told you and everyone else here you’d NEVER let a Bears defense off the hook for blowing a late lead in a weak offensive performance, and I was proven correct only 2-3 weeks later.
The problem is you are actually dumb enough to be unable to see how the 2 games differ. No one here is shocked by this or your Fields Agenda.
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The problem is you are actually dumb enough to be unable to see how the 2 games differ. No one here is shocked by this or your Fields Agenda.
MY Fields Agenda! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Coming from the Fields hater who watched his All22 in anticipation of an argument.
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The problem is you are actually dumb enough to be unable to see how the 2 games differ. No one here is shocked by this or your Fields Agenda.
The Commanders moved the ball well all game. How does it differ all that much? 2 plays, 8 plays, who cares?
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Coming from the Fields hater who watched his All22 in anticipation of an argument.
You’re the guy who’s just supposed to be glad he’s gone. If anyone should be moved on, it’s you.
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MY Fields Agenda! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The guy who started multiple Fields threads claims he has no Fields Agenda. This is Classic Tempo.
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The Commanders moved the ball well all game. How does it differ all that much? 2 plays, 8 plays, who cares?
Apparently you do. After all, you raised the Steeler Dallas game Sunday.
It is sad that you think the last series of the Steeler-Dallas and Bear-Commander games are even remotely comparable.
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You’re the guy who’s just supposed to be glad he’s gone. If anyone should be moved on, it’s you.
And I explained why I watched it. I had read that he started out thinking that Fields should not be benched, then, as he went through the tape, realized why Fields was being benched. That is the only one I watched.
I would watch the Williams one this week but heard it was 3.5 hours long.
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The guy who started multiple Fields threads claims he has no Fields Agenda. This is Classic Tempo.
The only agenda I have is ridiculing your claim that “Justin Fields is not an NFL quarterback, and never will be.” That’s been proven wrong, yet you persist.
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And I explained why I watched it. I had read that he started out thinking that Fields should not be benched, then, as he went through the tape, realized why Fields was being benched. That is the only one I watched.
I would watch the Williams one this week but heard it was 3.5 hours long.
You watched it because you’re every bit as obsessed with this topic as I am.
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And desperate for anything that supports your narrative.
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The only agenda I have is ridiculing your claim that “Justin Fields is not an NFL quarterback, and never will be.” That’s been proven wrong, yet you persist.
LOL. He is down to dressing as an emergency QB. He sucks.
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You watched it because you’re every bit as obsessed with this topic as I am.
I have not watched any of the tape this year except for that one. For the reason stated.
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And desperate for anything that supports your narrative.
The facts continue to support the narrative that he sucks.
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LOL. He is down to dressing as an emergency QB. He sucks.
He was injured.
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The facts continue to support the narrative that he sucks.
Despite 85% of the football world thinking he should not have been benched.
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I have not watched any of the tape this year except for that one. For the reason stated.
You watch all of his games, because any time he does something bad or something you can pin on him you text me about it in real time.
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Despite 85% of the football world thinking he should not have been benched.
LOL. Show me a link for that. If you have one, I am sure it was a bunch of people who should ride the short bus. May want to watch the QB School video of his last game to understand why Sh1t got demoted! I am sure you won't, because facts do not fit your narratives.
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You watch all of his games, because any time he does something bad or something you can pin on him you text me about it in real time.
I have all the games on at the same time. I doubt I caught every incompetent thing he did as the starter. There was always a lot to choose from.
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LOL. Show me a link for that. If you have one, I am sure it was a bunch of people who should ride the short bus. May want to watch the QB School video of his last game to understand why Sh1t got demoted! I am sure you won't, because facts do not fit your narratives.
The game in which he took 4 sacks, went 0-4 in the red zone, and in YOUR WORDS “fumbled at a crucial moment?”
Somehow I’m betting Justin Fields doesn’t get a good review from you in the same situation.
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The game in which he took 4 sacks, went 0-4 in the red zone, and in YOUR WORDS “fumbled at a crucial moment?”
This does not narrow it down.
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This does not narrow it down.
If Fields had those numbers you’d be cooking him all week.
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LOL. Show me a link for that. If you have one, I am sure it was a bunch of people who should ride the short bus. May want to watch the QB School video of his last game to understand why Sh1t got demoted! I am sure you won't, because facts do not fit your narratives.
His teammates for one.
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If Fields had those numbers you’d be cooking him all week.
Which Fields game are we talking about?
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His teammates for one.
(https://i.postimg.cc/YS8dzmM7/IMG-9363.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kV6NnG2Y)
LOL. Just like the Bear players supporting Sh1t. Steeler and Bear far better off without that whiny loser playing for them.
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Which Fields game are we talking about?
That’s the “brilliant” game Russell Wilson had last week. No chance you’d be crediting Fields with a good game with those stats.
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That’s the “brilliant” game Russell Wilson had last week. No chance you’d be crediting Fields with a good game with those stats.
LOL. You mean the game where he was 20 of 28 for 278 and 1TD and, because the defenses can't put 10 men in the box like they did when Sh1t was QB, the Pitt running game went for 167 yards? That game? LOL. You understand that the Pitt offense is doing far better as a whole since Sh1t got sh1tcanned, right?
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Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42367745/bears-waive-og-nate-davis-days-late-scratch-vs-patriots
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Not a surprise. Was in line to play Sunday then comes in complaining of a sore back. One of Poles’ top 3 mistakes.
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Not a surprise. Was in line to play Sunday then comes in complaining of a sore back. One of Poles’ top 3 mistakes.
There has to be 1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d.....3zzz
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Again, every GM makes mistakes.
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Again, every GM makes mistakes.
Not every GM is firing coaches for cause in the middle of the season or wasting draft picks on trades or guys who do not dress on game day or who take themselves out of games at crunch time.
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Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out…
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42367745/bears-waive-og-nate-davis-days-late-scratch-vs-patriots
Fucking bum
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Not every GM is firing coaches for cause in the middle of the season or wasting draft picks on trades or guys who do not dress on game day or who take themselves out of games at crunch time.
The coaches are Flus’ hires. Only the “emotional types” are looking to fire Poles. The roster has a lot to work with. Any GM prospect would love to take over this roster.
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Not every GM is firing coaches for cause in the middle of the season or wasting draft picks on trades or guys who do not dress on game day or who take themselves out of games at crunch time.
Talking about Sweat? I think he’s missed one game.
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The coaches are Flus’ hires. Only the “emotional types” are looking to fire Poles. The roster has a lot to work with. Any GM prospect would love to take over this roster.
LOL.
This is akin to saying whoever was the #1 pick was walking into the best possible situation...except it was Eberlose and the OL is barely better than Illinois' OL.
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Talking about Sweat? I think he’s missed one game.
"who take themselves out of games at crunch time" - Sweat has done it multiple times.
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Last year the OL wasn’t the problem, it was the QB. Again, trying to play both sides. It’s the core tenet of ThePAMan playbook.
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Last year the OL wasn’t the problem, it was the QB. Again, trying to play both sides. It’s the core tenet of ThePAMan playbook.
You patented selective memory on display again: Last year I said the OL sucked and needed to be completely overhauled. I did say that Sh1t, a third (turd) year QB, made them look worse.
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You patented selective memory on display again: Last year I said the OL sucked and needed to be completely overhauled. I did say that Sh1t, a third (turd) year QB, made them look worse.
And also said the problem with the offense was the QB not the offensive line. Having it both ways. The core tenet of ThePAMan playbook.
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Any time I tried to lay any blame on the OL you’d rail on the quarterback for 3 pages.
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Never once did I hear you concede the OL was holding Fields back. Quite sure id remember that.
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And also said the problem with the offense was the QB not the offensive line. Having it both ways. The core tenet of ThePAMan playbook.
You are just making things up.
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Never once did I hear you concede the OL was holding Fields back. Quite sure id remember that.
What has held him back is the fact that he sucks.
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You are just making things up.
There’s dozens upon dozens upon dozens of pages that show you’re lying in this post.
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What has held him back is the fact that he sucks.
To be clear, it was NOT the OL.
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There’s dozens upon dozens upon dozens of pages that show you’re lying in this post.
Sounds like they should be easy for you to find then.
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Sounds like they should be easy for you to find then.
Yep.
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Maybe you could show me the time you attributed some of Fields’ bad play to the offensive line. I’ll hang up and listen for your answer.
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Or, just even say it now. You won’t. Case closed.
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Maybe you could show me the time you attributed some of Fields’ bad play to the offensive line. I’ll hang up and listen for your answer.
He who pleads must prove.
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The guy who told you the OL sucked for years was me. Far AOTC on that one.
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He who pleads must prove.
All you have to do is admit the line sucked for Fields, too.
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All you have to do is admit the line sucked for Fields, too.
I told you that at the time. I said he made them look even worse than they already were.
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I told you that at the time. I said he made them look even worse than they already were.
So they contributed to his poor play?
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So they contributed to his poor play?
No, he sucked ass. He made them look even worse than they were.
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No, he sucked ass. He made them look even worse than they were.
I win again.
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I win again.
For having the most bad takes? Yes, you do win.
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For having the most bad takes? Yes, you do win.
I’m the board all time AOTC points leader.
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I’m the board all time AOTC points leader.
Pre-COVID Era only.
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Pre-COVID Era only.
I built up a massive lead.
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I built up a massive lead.
You were wrong about that. You have been lapped by multiple people
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You were wrong about that. You have been lapped by multiple people
Not here.
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Not here.
Definitely here.
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Orange Blazer and Larue don’t post here anymore.
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Orange Blazer and Larue don’t post here anymore.
Golf posts once a month and he has been far more AOTC than you have been since The COVID
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All Golf posts is ridiculous right-wing memes. Worse than the terrible left-wing one I posted a day or two ago.
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Was listening to Hamp and OB from Sunday last night. Hamp mentioned that the WRs refuse to run slant routes....
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Wow. Nice username Tempo. And supposedly I'm the one that has issues lol
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Just reciprocating the energy.
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Works for me!
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some doomer porn here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6livXv87TjI
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Oyyy
https://x.com/gbraggsjr23/status/1858527953585344924?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Oyyy
https://x.com/gbraggsjr23/status/1858527953585344924?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
I only open The BlueSkyye links
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I only open The BlueSkyye links
Tempo, follow me at @ThePAMan.bsky.social
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That sounds ghey.
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That sounds ghey.
You are not on The BlueSkyye?
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Oyyy
https://x.com/gbraggsjr23/status/1858527953585344924?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
honestly the entire game ending wouldn't have mattered without the Packers coach being retarded as well going for it on like 4th and goal instead of kicking the field goal earlier in the game
note to coaches in the NFL, if your team sucks balls, TAKE THE FUCKING POINTS ANY TIME THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES
fuck your analytics. they are for competent and consistent offenses, not the pile of dog shit you are trotting out every week
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honestly the entire game ending wouldn't have mattered without the Packers coach being retarded as well going for it on like 4th and goal instead of kicking the field goal earlier in the game
note to coaches in the NFL, if your team sucks balls, TAKE THE FUCKING POINTS ANY TIME THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES
fuck your analytics. they are for competent and consistent offenses, not the pile of dog shit you are trotting out every week
Yep, he kicks the FG, the Bear need a TD. This will be swept under the rug given the Bear incompetence.
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Might as well tank again. Build up some draft capital or whatever.
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You are not on The BlueSkyye?
Am I missing anything?
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Am I missing anything?
my prior comment
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Yep, he kicks the FG, the Bear need a TD. This will be swept under the rug given the Bear incompetence.
You can't worry about the other teams' decisions. Just your own.
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Might as well tank again. Build up some draft capital or whatever.
It is not that dire. The Bears are losing in the margins (mostly coaching). They're a few better decisions away from being 6-4 or even 7-3. Despite missing some key players in recent games. The bones of a competitive team are there, and Chicago will be a highly sought after position for HC candidates in the off-season.
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But I'm not against higher draft picks next year.
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Oh, fuck off Tempo. This team sucks. Don't tell me how to watch football.
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You can't worry about the other teams' decisions. Just your own.
LOL. When did you become so philosophical?
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Am I missing anything?
Yes, you are. All the action without the bots on The BlueSkyye. I'm on it now.
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Oh, fuck off Tempo. This team sucks. Don't tell me how to watch football.
Lol
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Lol
Were you able to watch yesterday?
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But I'm not against higher draft picks next year.
What this team needs is more drafted WRs to just stand on the sidelines.
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Were you able to watch yesterday?
No, I saw maybe 3 plays. Unfortunately the blocked kick was one of them. Heard a few more plays on the radio.
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Were you able to watch yesterday?
Why?
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Why?
Kind of hard for you to comment when you didn't watch
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So if I didn’t watch the game yesterday I can’t make an informed decision on how good or bad the roster is? That’s moronic.
From what I’ve heard they weren’t bad yesterday. Just dumb (which is mostly coaching).
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So if I didn’t watch the game yesterday I can’t make an informed decision on how good or bad the roster is? That’s moronic.
From what I’ve heard they weren’t bad yesterday. Just dumb (which is mostly coaching).
You can't opine on the lack of effectiveness from Your Guy Sweat.
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You can't opine on the lack of effectiveness from Your Guy Sweat.
I LOLd Jobu's take and that's when you asked me if I watched. The discussion didn't have anything to do with Sweat.
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I LOLd Jobu's take and that's when you asked me if I watched. The discussion didn't have anything to do with Sweat.
But you have opined that he is awesome. He might be hurt. Or he might be out of shape and sucks.
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He’s a very good player. Not sure I ever said he’s “awesome.” He needs someone to consistently give him more help on the other side.
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He’s a very good player. Not sure I ever said he’s “awesome.” He needs someone to consistently give him more help on the other side.
For $100m he shouldn't need help. He should be getting double teamed every play and opening things up for others. C'mon, Tempo.
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For $100m he shouldn't need help. He should be getting double teamed every play and opening things up for others. C'mon, Tempo.
I mean he does ok without help. He’d be better with help. He’s not a top 10 pass rusher, but he’s probably in the next 10. And he’s one of the best run stopping DEs in the league. Is he a HOFer? Probably not, but a very good player.
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For $100m he shouldn't need help. He should be getting double teamed every play and opening things up for others. C'mon, Tempo.
He gets extra attention a lot. He’s helped make others better. This is common knowledge. It’s not a coincidence the defense improved when he came in.
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I mean he does ok without help. He’d be better with help. He’s not a top 10 pass rusher, but he’s probably in the next 10. And he’s one of the best run stopping DEs in the league. Is he a HOFer? Probably not, but a very good player.
Guess $100m doesn't get you too far anymore
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Guess $100m doesn't get you too far anymore
He’ll barely be in the top 20 paid DEs in a couple years.
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He got 35-40% of what Khalil Mack got 6 years ago.
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He’ll barely be in the top 20 paid DEs in a couple years.
Wasn't Hunter a free agent too?
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He got 35-40% of what Khalil Mack got 6 years ago.
Over paid for him to after half a year.
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Wasn't Hunter a free agent too?
Hunter was a fictional TV cop played by a former football player.
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Hunter was a fictional TV cop played by a former football player.
Even Danielle?
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I remember when Hunter got shot!
My babysitter was sure he was going to die.
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I remember when Hunter got shot!
My babysitter was sure he was going to die.
But did he?
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But did he?
Fred Dryer is not easy to kill.
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Lol Jesus Christ who sits around thinking of this shit.
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If a “reboot” means moving on from their coach, I’d take Shanahan here in Chicago in a millisecond. I’d even be willing to trade for him. I don’t think they are moving on from him, but I’ve heard he and Lynch are not always on the same page and it’s one of those whacky situations where a really good coach could just end up moving on or being shipped out.
https://x.com/thevolumesports/status/1861102784789037218?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Bears get sought after concessions from Arlington Heights. The lakefront is still possible, but I think this makes AH the heavy favorite for the new stadium. It makes way more sense to build there.
https://youtu.be/761MHGYQ5P0?si=Zpp1t5XLjTUOMAxV
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Multiple reasons, and I do not see that being a primary one. He’s an experienced, successful coordinator. Works in a very similar system with a lot of common verbiage. Worked under Belichick, Shanahan, McVay, Carroll. Highly qualified candidate.
Still young, potential HC material.
Tempo btc on shane waldron
😂😭
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Tempo btc on shane waldron
😂😭
He should also go on the record when the State is going to give money for the Unicorn Arlington Heights Stadium.
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He should also go on the record when the State is going to give money for the Unicorn Arlington Heights Stadium.
right? lol
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Tempo btc on shane waldron
😂😭
I didn’t hear anyone here AOTC on Waldron. His résumé was decent enough. Hard to envision he was as bad as he was, although Seahawks fans didn’t speak well of him on The Twotter. But I chalked that up to most fans probably hate their OC.
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He should also go on the record when the State is going to give money for the Unicorn Arlington Heights Stadium.
One way or another a stadium will get done. And it’ll probably be in Arlington Heights.
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I didn’t hear anyone here AOTC on Waldron. His résumé was decent enough. Hard to envision he was as bad as he was, although Seahawks fans didn’t speak well of him on The Twotter. But I chalked that up to most fans probably hate their OC.
Ths Twotter was AOTC? Bullshit.
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One way or another it’ll get done.
LOL. The state is broke. Trump is going to fuck Chicago and Illinois. Pritzker thinks he can run for President. He is not giving money to the McCaskeys.
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Ths Twotter was AOTC? Bullshit.
What I said was it was it wasn’t hard to find Seahawk fans who didn’t like him.
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The state has been broke for decades. One way or another, a stadium will get done; and it’s probably going to be in AH.
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Velus Jones Jr’s WR test shows up at Goodwill. With plays like Lick 3 Scram Pull X Stool no wonder he couldn’t figure out the route…🤣
https://ontapsportsnet.com/nfl/velus-jones-jr-backpack-goodwill-chicago-bears-playbook
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The state has been broke for decades. One way or another, a stadium will get done; and it’s probably going to be in AH.
You are obviously not paying attention.
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NO. Would hate almost all of these hires.
Johnson is the most obvious choice. Slowik still appeals to me. Carroll or Belichick would be better hires. Shanahan might even become available. Johnson is the only hire here that would excite me.
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Eberflus is fired! They actually did it. !!!!!!
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Eberflus is fired! They actually did it. !!!!!!
Woohoo!
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Woohoo!
Interim coach - Lovie Smith
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Thomas Brown. Which is the wrong choice IMO because if he's any kind of upgrade at all he's going to get steamed up by some to keep the job.
Lovie has too much dignity to be an interim coach for a franchise that isn't keeping him.
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Thomas Brown. Which is the wrong choice IMO because if he's any kind of upgrade at all he's going to get steamed up by some to keep the job.
Lovie has too much dignity to be an interim coach for a franchise that isn't keeping him.
Maybe Greg Schiano. It would check out
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Thomas Brown. Which is the wrong choice IMO because if he's any kind of upgrade at all he's going to get steamed up by some to keep the job.
Lovie has too much dignity to be an interim coach for a franchise that isn't keeping him.
anyone is an upgrade so this is a stupid take, pretty sure he knows he's cooked after the season but he'll make some extra money this year so good for him
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anyone is an upgrade so this is a stupid take, pretty sure he knows he's cooked after the season but he'll make some extra money this year so good for him
Dude, there are lots of people out there talking about Thomas Brown being in the mix, and even having first crack. You cannot rule out anything when the Bears and McCaskeys are involved. If the Bears look better TB will get some run as a candidate. Is it likely he's the next HC? No, but it's not out of the question.
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If he gets a few more performances out of Caleb like yesterday, he’s going to get a lot of steam
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Who is talking about him? Idiots on The Twotter?
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Dude, there are lots of people out there talking about Thomas Brown being in the mix, and even having first crack. You cannot rule out anything when the Bears and McCaskeys are involved. If the Bears look better TB will get some run as a candidate. Is it likely he's the next HC? No, but it's not out of the question.
Lots of retards on the twitter?
Ill bet my posting rights here that he won't be next years head coach.
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Lots of retards on the twitter?
Ill bet my posting rights here that he won't be next years head coach.
Tempo?
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Lots of retards on the twitter?
Ill bet my posting rights here that he won't be next years head coach.
Again, I don’t expect him to be the next HC either, but I’d rather remove him from the equation now. He will definitely get some steam if the team improves even a little.
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Tempo?
I don’t expect him to be the next HC either…
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I don’t expect him to be the next HC either…
Then why are you worried?
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Again, I don’t expect him to be the next HC either, but I’d rather remove him from the equation now. He will definitely get some steam if the team improves even a little.
I mean while it would be very Bears to hire some QB coordinator to head coach in less than a few months time, I would hope that they learned their lesson and maybe want to spend a little to get a well established good coach and not some fired bum off the crap pile this offseason
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Then why are you worried?
I want a clean break with no chatter on keeping someone because they did ok, or built a report with Caleb. Caleb is a young and impressionable man. You think he won’t latch on to TB? I’d just rather make it all cleaner. This only muddies the water, if even only a bit.
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I want a clean break with no chatter on keeping someone because they did ok, or built a report with Caleb. Caleb is a young and impressionable man. You think he won’t latch on to TB? I’d just rather make it all cleaner. This only muddies the water, if even only a bit.
This is Caleb Williams' Medicals Part Deaux.
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This is Caleb Williams' Medicals Part Deaux.
Keep worrying about DJ and Montez.
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And missed FTs in early November of 30 point wins.
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By freshman bigs I might add.
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I mean while it would be very Bears to hire some QB coordinator to head coach in less than a few months time, I would hope that they learned their lesson and maybe want to spend a little to get a well established good coach and not some fired bum off the crap pile this offseason
We all know how this ends..
Ladies and Gents your new Bears Head Coach…
Bret Bielema!
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Keep worrying about DJ and Montez.
LOL. Yes, I will continue to be concerned about real issues instead of fake issues. You will get there in 2 years since you are BTC
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And missed FTs in early November of 30 point wins.
Which I was AOTC.
It would be far more persuasive if you used examples where I was in error instead of ones where I was or am correct.
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Which I was AOTC.
It would be far more persuasive if you used examples where I was in error instead of ones where I was or am correct.
You were not. Free-throw shooting didn’t cost that team much of anything. The only thing it cost was a second half cover of a bet you made during a double digit loss.
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You were not. Free-throw shooting didn’t cost that team much of anything. The only thing it cost was a second half cover of a bet you made during a double digit loss.
It was not good that season.
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But turns out it didn’t cost them anything. One game in early November in which freshman bigs missed like 5-7 6 FTS isn’t very predictive.
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But they weren't good free shot shooters the whole year that year
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and it didn’t cost them shit. Again, one game early in the season isn’t likely to be predictive. You worry about every detail whenever things are less than optimal.
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You literally made an ordeal out of like an 18 FT sample size.
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They went 12-20 in that game. 3 more makes and no one even notices.
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3 FTs…
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Brock Bowers the 3rd leading choice for ROY and easily the best non-QB with a chance to win the award. I was laughed at for suggesting we consider taking him.
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Everyone’s favorite GOAT Bears podcaster Adam Hoge said it would be “crazy not to give Thomas Brown a 5 game ‘interview’.” And that if they could keep the continuity with Thomas Brown after this year would it would be ‘amazing.” But I’m gonna guess his credibility and insight is not as high when not calling out Wayne Whitlock by name on his podcast.
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Brock Bowers the 3rd leading choice for ROY and easily the best non-QB with a chance to win the award. I was laughed at for suggesting we consider taking him.
yeah I mean Kmet is either trash that doesn't block or a good playmaker, very hit or miss, wouldn't be the worst pick I guess but Kmet would have to go
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Everyone’s favorite GOAT Bears podcaster Adam Hoge said it would be “crazy not to give Thomas Brown a 5 game ‘interview’.” And that if they could keep the continuity with Thomas Brown after this year would it would be ‘amazing.” But I’m gonna guess his credibility and insight is not as high when not calling out Wayne Whitlock by name on his podcast.
I dunno, I just think he needs something to talk about for this dumpster fire of a season for the next 5 weeks, why not play fantasy GM on his podcast
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yeah I mean Kmet is either trash that doesn't block or a good playmaker, very hit or miss, wouldn't be the worst pick I guess but Kmet would have to go
You're allowed more than one TE. Especially when you have one that can line up as a wide out.
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and it didn’t cost them shit. Again, one game early in the season isn’t likely to be predictive. You worry about every detail whenever things are less than optimal.
The free shot shooting was bad all season, though.
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They went 12-20 in that game. 3 more makes and no one even notices.
But they didn't and people did notice
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Brock Bowers the 3rd leading choice for ROY and easily the best non-QB with a chance to win the award. I was laughed at for suggesting we consider taking him.
As well you should have been. This team needed and still needs linemen. This isn't Madden.
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You're allowed more than one TE. Especially when you have one that can line up as a wide out.
Not when you paid one big money already.
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As well you should have been. This team needed and still needs linemen. This isn't Madden.
The primary issue with the OL is inside. Which Center or Guard were you going to spend a top 10 pick on?
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And again, the line didn’t get near as much criticism from you when you know who was quarterback.
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Not when you paid one big money already.
Brock Bowers is the 25th highest paid TE in the league. He makes less than Will Dissly, Moe Allie-Cox, and Noah Gray. He makes less than half of what Taysom Hill makes. He’s affordable.
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According to Bears fans he was going to be a great coach this year due to his beard and new look
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And again, the line didn’t get near as much criticism from you when you know who was quarterback.
Yes it did. I told you it needed a complete overhaul even though he made them look even worse.
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Brock Bowers is the 25th highest paid TE in the league. He makes less than Will Dissly, Moe Allie-Cox, and Noah Gray. He makes less than half of what Taysom Hill makes. He’s affordable.
They have far more other needs than another TE. This is not fucking Madden
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Yes it did. I told you it needed a complete overhaul even though he made them look even worse.
Every time I said it was bad you blamed the quarterback. Like probably every single time.
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They have far more other needs than another TE. This is not fucking Madden
Says the guy who expects dominant wins in every phase every single week.
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Cue ThePAMan: “Who’s Bryan Deardo?”
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That list sucks by the way. There’s two guys on it I’d consider. You could maybe talk me into Belichick.
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I want nothing to do with Joe Brady. His stock was in the tank two short years ago, and I’m not handing Caleb and my franchise off to a guy who “turned around” a perennial MVP candidate (if it were my choice). I give Daboll way more credit for Allen’s success, and Daboll should be on the street.
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Every time I said it was bad you blamed the quarterback. Like probably every single time.
And every time I told you the line sucked and your hero made them look even worse
Seriously why are you lying about this?
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Says the guy who expects dominant wins in every phase every single week.
Says the guy who thinks the NFL is Madden like Poles and the Giants GM
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I want nothing to do with Joe Brady. His stock was in the tank two short years ago, and I’m not handing Caleb and my franchise off to a guy who “turned around” a perennial MVP candidate (if it were my choice). I give Daboll way more credit for Allen’s success, and Daboll should be on the street.
I'll agree with this hot take.
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And every time I told you the line sucked and your hero made them look even worse
Seriously why are you lying about this?
I’m not sure of the timeline exactly, but I’d be willing to bet you never said you’d replace everyone on the line until after Fields was traded. You certainly didn’t finger point the line when Fields was the topic of discussion.
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Says the guy who thinks the NFL is Madden like Poles and the Giants GM
It’s always good for a laugh when
The guy who thinks anything less than total dominance in all phases is a spotty performance accuses others of “playing Madden.”
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“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!”
https://beargoggleson.com/4-perfect-coaches-to-make-bears-qb-caleb-williams-a-star-after-matt-eberflus-firing-01jdwjbr7xen
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I’m not sure of the timeline exactly, but I’d be willing to bet you never said you’d replace everyone on the line until after Fields was traded. You certainly didn’t finger point the line when Fields was the topic of discussion.
SMDH. You are making stuff up now.
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It’s always good for a laugh when
The guy who thinks anything less than total dominance in all phases is a spotty performance accuses others of “playing Madden.”
The evidence of your thinking this is Madden is your Bowers argument.
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It’s always good for a laugh when
The guy who thinks anything less than total dominance in all phases is a spotty performance accuses others of “playing Madden.”
It is always good for a laugh when the guy who defended the craptastic Bear head coach for years only figured out that he could make an argument for firing his sorry ass only after it was evident they were moving on from Fields.
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“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!”
https://beargoggleson.com/4-perfect-coaches-to-make-bears-qb-caleb-williams-a-star-after-matt-eberflus-firing-01jdwjbr7xen
well it is broke so ?????
I wonder what Jay Mariotti's short list is for the bears head coaching search
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SMDH. You are making stuff up now.
No im not. You never faulted the line when the topic was Fields. Probably ever. You defended the line constantly until he was either gone, or likely to be gone.
The absolute best you could ever do is say “Fields makes them look worse.” You never once to my recollection said “Yes the line stinks, and they are partly to blame for Fields’ struggles.” Every time he got hit in the face by an unblocked guy it was his fault in your book.
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The evidence of your thinking this is Madden is your Bowers argument.
Says the guy who thinks less than total dominance in every phase of every game is “cause for concern.”
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No im not. You never faulted the line when the topic was Fields. Probably ever. You defended the line constantly until he was either gone, or likely to be gone.
The absolute best you could ever do is say “Fields makes them look worse.” You never once to my recollection said “Yes the line stinks, and they are partly to blame for Fields’ struggles.” Every time he got hit in the face by an unblocked guy it was his fault in your book.
Except when I said, repeatedly, that the whole line should be turned over.
The fact is the line sucked and Fields sucks. They weren't to blame for Fields' struggles because he is to blame for them because he can't read defenses.
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Says the guy who thinks less than total dominance in every phase of every game is “cause for concern.”
No one ever said that. You are just making stuff up because your ass has been throughly whipped re Fields and Eberlose.
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Except when I said, repeatedly, that the whole line should be turned over.
The fact is the line sucked and Fields sucks. They weren't to blame for Fields' struggles because he is to blame for them because he can't read defenses.
I’m pretty sure you never said that until the offseason last year. Literally every time Fields got clobbered you blamed him. You even posted a GIF recently where an unaccounted for man ran right past a RB without so much as a chip block as proof Fields is at fault for all of his pressures.
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I’m pretty sure you never said that until the offseason last year. Literally every time Fields got clobbered you blamed him. You even posted a GIF recently where an unaccounted for man ran right past a RB without so much as a chip block as proof Fields is at fault for all of his pressures.
You are wrong again. This was discussed during games that the OL sucked and needed an overhaul.
The fact is Fields sucks and cannot read defenses, ala the gif.
That the line and Fields sucked last year can both be true.
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No one with a working brain cell is falling for your ruse. You never once blamed the OLine for Fields’ struggles (even in part). If you had, I’d almost certainly remember it. I’m almost certain it was this last offseason when you said you’d “replace them all.” And still failed to assign them any blame for Fields’ struggles. You’re the king of having it both ways.
I can’t remember you once ever blaming the line for a Fields sack.
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No one with a working brain cell is falling for your ruse. You never once blamed the OLine for Fields’ struggles (even in part). If you had, I’d almost certainly remember it. I’m almost certain it was this last offseason when you said you’d “replace them all.” And still failed to assign them any blame for Fields’ struggles. You’re the king of having it both ways.
I can’t remember you once ever blaming the line for a Fields sack.
You are actually correct here for once. I never blamed the line for Fields being a complete POS Wingback. I blamed Fields for being a complete POS Wingback.
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No one with a working brain cell is falling for your ruse. You never once blamed the OLine for Fields’ struggles (even in part). If you had, I’d almost certainly remember it. I’m almost certain it was this last offseason when you said you’d “replace them all.” And still failed to assign them any blame for Fields’ struggles. You’re the king of having it both ways.
I can’t remember you once ever blaming the line for a Fields sack.
You are still wrong also. I said the line sucked and needed a complete overhaul during games on multiple occasions. I did say that Fields made them look even worse than they were.
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Have to say, I really enjoy hearing Thomas Brown Jr. speak. Sounds like a young Tomlin.
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Have to say, I really enjoy hearing Thomas Brown Jr. speak. Sounds like a young Tomlin.
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I was AOTC on this one... LOL
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(https://i.imgur.com/EjQLT6i.png)
I was AOTC on this one... LOL
The jokes write themselves around here
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Hilarious (not really).
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Hilarious (not really).
He was AOTC
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Yeah, I suppose. Except for the cumming part.
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I actually like the first 4 names on this list more than most people not named Kyle Shanahan. After that, not so enthused. Not that interested in Kingsbury as he’s never actually won anywhere.
This morning Mike Florio mentioned the possibility of trading for Kyle Shanahan and Mully told him that was a great idea. Florio must read HQ2 because I mentioned that 2-3 weeks ago. Mully obviously doesn’t read HQ2.
https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2024/12/03/ranking-potential-bears-hc/
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I actually like the first 4 names on this list more than most people not named Kyle Shanahan. After that, not so enthused. Not that interested in Kingsbury as he’s never actually won anywhere.
This morning Mike Florio mentioned the possibility of trading for Kyle Shanahan and Mully told him that was a great idea. Florio must read HQ2 because I mentioned that 2-3 weeks ago. Mully obviously doesn’t read HQ2.
https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2024/12/03/ranking-potential-bears-hc/
I have read your work here and stolen it for use on TV, blogs, and radio hits. Would rather have you on PFT Live than the Simms kid. You available 7-9AM (Eastern, of course)?
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Hey, Mike! Always knew you were a lurker!
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I love this place so much. 🥰
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Hey, Mike! Always knew you were a lurker!
Get all "my" best analysis from you here.
What frosts me is that long-haired PFTCommenter dude making coin off my Pro Football Talk name. That bothers me as much as Mully's long-winded questions during my 670TheScore hits. I have a tight schedule to get to my weekly hit on The Gary Sharp Show on 1620 The Zone in Omaha.
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😂
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I have breaking news....Robbie Gould has resigned as head coach at Rolling Meadows High... He is looking to make a move to the Bears sideline. You heard it here first.
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Who’s your front-runner for the Bears job?
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Get all "my" best analysis from you here.
What frosts me is that long-haired PFTCommenter dude making coin off my Pro Football Talk name. That bothers me as much as Mully's long-winded questions during my 670TheScore hits. I have a tight schedule to get to my weekly hit on The Gary Sharp Show on 1620 The Zone in Omaha.
At least Mully doesn’t put you on mute, talk over you while you try to make your point then drop you before you get a chance to respond.
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Who’s your front-runner for the Bears job?
Who is your front-runner for the Bears job?
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At least Mully doesn’t put you on mute, talk over you while you try to make your point then drop you before you get a chance to respond.
Well, you are not Mike Florio. I am.
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Who is your front-runner for the Bears job?
Whomever is cheapest is the right answer.
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Who do I think, or do I want?
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Whomever is cheapest is the right answer.
I’m concerned that could be a factor. But at some point the lesson has to sink in, no? Afterall, they finally fired a coach in-season.
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Well, you are not Mike Florio. I am.
My point.
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Although you do get some of your material from me.
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Who do I think, or do I want?
If you want to be a media king like me, you just answer both ways so you get more air time (and just talk over Mully). You have a lot to learn, kid.
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Although you do get some of your material from me.
I need more material. Keep posting.
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I need more material. Keep posting.
Oh brother....
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My first choice is Shanahan. If I have to trade for him, I probably would. Among traditional candidates, I’d have to go with Ben Johnson. Will the Bears pony up for him? I think they might.
Most likely:
1) Ben Johnson
2) Thomas Brown
3) Liam Coen
4) Kyle Shanahan
5) Bobby Slowik
Darkhorse: Dave Canales
My list:
1) Shanahan
2) Johnson
3) Brown
4) Coen
5) Slowik
4)
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Mack Brown is available!
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My first choice is Shanahan. If I have to trade for him, I probably would. Among traditional candidates, I’d have to go with Ben Johnson. Will the Bears pony up for him? I think they might.
Most likely:
1) Ben Johnson
2) Thomas Brown
3) Liam Coen
4) Kyle Shanahan
5) Bobby Slowik
Darkhorse: Dave Canales
My list:
1) Shanahan
2) Johnson
3) Brown
4) Coen
5) Slowik
4)
I do not know why you changed your name Max.
I am throwing out a name here: Artie Smith.
1. Getting a lot out of Wilson and Fields in Pittsburgh.
2. Obviously he was not the problem in Atlanta.
3. Family money via Fed Ex! He can work cheaper.
What do you think, Max?
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Hell no.
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Lulz when pigs fly.
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/bezos-expected-to-buy-the-bears-and-how-that-could-impact-the-49ers-01jeah1k7zpy
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isn't SI just AI journalism now
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Hell no.
Can you please explain your resistance to Artie? He's done wonders in Pittsburgh with Wilson and Fields, a poor offensive line, and limited weapons at other skilled positions. Seems like he would be a good fit for this Bears squad.
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isn't SI just AI journalism now
Good observation.
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Can you please explain your resistance to Artie? He's done wonders in Pittsburgh with Wilson and Fields, a poor offensive line, and limited weapons at other skilled positions. Seems like he would be a good fit for this Bears squad.
He was terrible in Atlanta, and his play-calling is very vanilla and conservative.
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Why would I want a failed head coach?
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Why would I want a failed head coach?
Mike Florio can argue whatever he wants, but weren't Belichick and Pete Carroll "failed" head coaches at one point? Not saying Smith is either of them, but such a hard rule seems a bit much given that we have seen far more Mark Trestmans and Eberloses than John Foxes.
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Yes, but I’m not hoping to find a needle in a haystack. Most failed head coaches will again be failed head coaches.
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Yes, but I’m not hoping to find a needle in a haystack. Most failed head coaches will again be failed head coaches.
Most head coaches will be ex-head coaches too.
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True. But let’s face it, ownership has to look like they’re trying. If they announce Arthur Smith as the next head coach Bears fans will descend on to Lake Forest with pitch forks.
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True. But let’s face it, ownership has to look like they’re trying. If they announce Arthur Smith as the next head coach Bears fans will descend on to Lake Forest with pitch forks.
Skeptical that would happen. It did not happen when they picked any of their recent lackluster loser coaches.
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People just got Trestmaned, Nagy’d and Flused. Patience is running short.
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Don’t think I believe this story from PAMan’s football guru Dan McNeil. Not because I think Warren wouldn’t do it, but because I don’t think anyone with the Bears really wanted Harbaugh, and I’m not convinced Harbaugh wanted them. Runs contrary to Hub Arkush’s report that Harbaugh (and his wife) wanted California. Harbaugh doesn’t fit the McCaskey profile, and Poles would be castrating himself if he hired Harbaugh.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1DsBVR456w/?mibextid=K35XfP
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Don’t think I believe this story from PAMan’s football guru Dan McNeil. Not because I think Warren wouldn’t do it, but because I don’t think anyone with the Bears really wanted Harbaugh, and I’m not convinced Harbaugh wanted them. Runs contrary to Hub Arkush’s report that Harbaugh (and his wife) wanted California. Harbaugh doesn’t fit the McCaskey profile, and Poles would be castrating himself if he hired Harbaugh.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1DsBVR456w/?mibextid=K35XfP
I have yet to listen to Dumpy Dan's pod that came out today, but the argument that Warren hates Harbaugh has a smell of truth to it, right? Weren't there issues with Harbaugh being uncooperative in the recruiting and sign stealing investigations?
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My Guy Lombardi treating the Harbaugh story as true and mocking the notion that the Bear job is as desirable as Warren says on his pod today.
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I totally believe that Warren would shoot it down. I’m not convinced there was real interest on either side.
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Love the talk about the Shield here.
Max, Arthur Smith had no QB in Atlanta. Chicago has one! Look what he has done with Russ and Fields! And the line in Pittsburgh is not that great, like in Chicago, but Chicago has receiver weapons. I think you may want to think on this a little more. I await your measured opinion.
Plus, not every hot young coordinator knows how to be a head coach. Sometimes experience and failing help improve future performance! Look how often Hub Arkush's Pro Football Weekly has filed for bankruptcy and is still going. Hmmm, maybe not the best example since I, and Pro Football Talk, singlehandedly destroyed Hub and PFW! But I think you understand my overall point.
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My Guy Lombardi treating the Harbaugh story as true and mocking the notion that the Bear job is as desirable as Warren says on his pod today.
"Lombardi"...points and laughs like Nelson Mundt. See, even Mike Florio knows more than just the NFL!
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Lombardi is always the wettest of blankets.
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Lombardi is always the wettest of blankets.
He was right about the quality of the Bear roster (specifically the OL) that Williams was walking into when you claimed it was the best team a number 1 pick could hope to walk into....
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"Lombardi"...points and laughs like Nelson Mundt. See, even Mike Florio knows more than just the NFL!
Is Mike Florio stuck in 1992?
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He was right about the quality of the Bear roster (specifically the OL) that Williams was walking into when you claimed it was the best team a number 1 pick could hope to walk into....
It was the best situation a #1 overall has walked into. The roster is not bad. It isn’t perfect, but it’s definitely fixable. They are still basically a year and a half into a complete rebuild. I have no idea what Lombardi said. Haven’t heard him in two years or more.
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It was the best situation a #1 overall has walked into.
Nope. Russell Maryland went #1 to a 7-9 Cowboys team in the 1991 draft. They ended up 11-5 the next year.
In 1984 Irving Fryer went #1 to an 8-8 Pats team. Went 9-7 the next year.
In 1977, Earl Campbell was #1 to an 8-6 Oiler team. Went 10-6 the next year.
I have not even mentioned that it was not a good situation since Eberlose was the shit HC.
Shall I continue?
Maybe Mike Florio should be stealing my stuff and not yours!
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Was not aware of those players played quarterback…
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And yes, even though it wasn’t said specifically in this case in the last few posts, the situation was obviously referring to quarterbacks.
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And yes, even though it wasn’t said specifically in this case in the last few posts, the situation was obviously referring to quarterbacks.
Did you pull out your back moving those goal posts?
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Did you pull out your back moving those goal posts?
Strawman alert. Everyone knows this was in reference to quarterbacks. You're the one who's moving the goal posts.
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Strawman alert. Everyone knows this was in reference to quarterbacks. You're the one who's moving the goal posts.
Never mentioned in your post.
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Never mentioned in your post.
It was mentioned in previous posts, and an obvious distinction. So obvious I didn't feel the need to mention it again. No one here gives a shit about what situation a WR or DT inherited. This debate started months ago. Not yesterday.
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Fire him.
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Can they just cut Nate Davis already?! Damn lol…
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Judy AOTC
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I hate money in football because the Bear won't spend it on good coaches.
AOTC
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Yeah, I mean he can’t fix everything all the time every season. There’s gonna be areas of concerns on every team every year. This isn’t Madden.
Rare reasonableness from JJ
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It was mentioned in previous posts, and an obvious distinction. So obvious I didn't feel the need to mention it again. No one here gives a shit about what situation a WR or DT inherited. This debate started months ago. Not yesterday.
I don't believe that was the scenario you presented, but even if so, I'm not sure Williams was even walking into A Tallest Midget situation given how Eberlose and Poles are/were clueless about the importance of building lines.
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It's one million percent the scenario that was presented. Literally no one gives a shit about Irving Friar's roster support rookie year.
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The 4 win Giants, who had just hired Caughlin, did get Eli Manning number 1 via trade....they did win 6 games
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It's one million percent the scenario that was presented. Literally no one gives a shit about Irving Friar's roster support rookie year.
Million to one? Eli Manning wound up being in a similar scenario with a far better coach and GM situation
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Only the Madden players dominating The Twotter thought this was the best situation ever.
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The 4 win Giants, who had just hired Caughlin, did get Eli Manning number 1 via trade....they did win 6 games
Eli was not drafted to be the starter. Kurt Warner was the starter. Eli didn't start a game until late November.
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Million to one? Eli Manning wound up being in a similar scenario with a far better coach and GM situation
Million to one what? No one is talking about odds. It's one million percent the implication was rookie quarterbacks.
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Only the Madden players dominating The Twotter thought this was the best situation ever.
The best ever situation for a #1 overall quarterback who was the starter from day one. I struggle to think of one that was better.
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Eli was not drafted to be the starter. Kurt Warner was the starter. Eli didn't start a game until late November.
He still walked into a better situation, didn't he?
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Million to one what? No one is talking about odds. It's one million percent the implication was rookie quarterbacks.
Except you only said that today
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The best ever situation for a #1 overall quarterback who was the starter from day one. I struggle to think of one that was better.
This is not what you said originally. But that is fine.
How many Day 1 starters have been of the, what, 30? QBs picked #1?
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He still walked into a better situation, didn't he?
As the day one starter? No.
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Except you only said that today
Bull fucking shit
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As the day one starter? No.
What exactly are your parameters now on this?
QB picked 1
Starter from day 1
Anything else?
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Bill Wade was #1 in 1952 for the Ram. The Ram were 8-4 that season. Went 9-3 in 1952. The issue is Wade was in the service and did not play until 1954....
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Lol
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What exactly are your parameters now on this?
QB picked 1
Starter from day 1
Anything else?
Probably sufficient. You might find one or two comparable examples, but probably nothing clearly "better" than what Caleb inherited. Having said that, I don't put a majority of the blame this year on Caleb.
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Caleb inherited an OC and HC who got their asses canned during the season.
He may have his 3rd OC come training camp of his 2nd year in the league.
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Very Bear-sy
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Caleb inherited an OC and HC who got their asses canned during the season.
He may have his 3rd OC come training camp of his 2nd year in the league.
And a GM and owners who are idiots. But it was the best situation for a QB from USC picked number 1. Beats Carson Palmer!
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Caleb inherited an OC and HC who got their asses canned during the season.
He may have his 3rd OC come training camp of his 2nd year in the league.
In part, due to his play!
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In part, due to his play!
LOL.
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LOL.
He’s been pretty bad at times. No one here is blameless. But I put the majority of the blame on coaching.
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In other words. Not that much has changed from previous years.
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Yep. You still win in the trenches.
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Hot dog man has hot take and gets a perfect response to sum up Bears fans panic. A lot of meatheads out there.
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Poles sucks ass.
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He’s almost certainly here for two more years. Buckle up.
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He’s almost certainly here for two more years. Buckle up.
Your Guy Sweat played 32 of 68 D plays yesterday. And they are going to let Poles have a say in the new HC? Need a new GM.
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Are we back to tanking? Should be
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Are we back to tanking? Should be
Unintentionally
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Your Guy Sweat played 32 of 68 D plays yesterday. And they are going to let Poles have a say in the new HC? Need a new GM.
Good luck.
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Are we back to tanking? Should be
May as well. No playoffs = tank time
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Good luck.
Going to be a long 2 years unless the mindset changes over there.
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Are we back to tanking? Should be
Unintentionally
Sssshhhhhh. Don't let the players know.
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Mn is still lamenting losing to the Lions in a 3-14 season that netted us Caleb and Rome.
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Sounds like more trouble in Chicago…
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1866294983852016124?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Sounds like more trouble in Chicago…
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1866294983852016124?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out, Poles.
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Clean house. Again. Fucking joke of a franchise.
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Probably much ado about nothing.
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So Ted Phillips didn’t exist?
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Probably much ado about nothing.
Sounds to me that someone is trying to distance himself from the shit storm roster he created.
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Sounds to me that someone is trying to distance himself from the shit storm roster he created.
I don’t get it. And how would he go about distancing himself from the roster he created?
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This is the one defensive coach I’d enthusiastically endorse. He might be as high as my 2nd choice.
https://twsn.net/2024/12/the-chicago-bears-will-hire-pete-carroll-as-the-next-head-coach
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Wayyyyyy too inspired thinking for the Bears. Carroll would have to be an idiot to work for the McCaskeys.
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Wayyyyyy too inspired thinking for the Bears. Carroll would have to be an idiot to work for the McCaskeys.
Lol, as I’ve pointed out toThePATheyHeSheZionist most franchises come with dysfunctional ownership. You think people are licking their chops to coach in Carolina, Jacksonville, Cleveland? Eager to work for the Mara’s or Jerrah Jones down in Dallas?
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Lol, as I’ve pointed out toThePATheyHeSheZionist most franchises come with dysfunctional ownership. You think people are licking their chops to coach in Carolina, Jacksonville, Cleveland? Eager to work for the Mara’s or Jerrah Jones down in Dallas?
Well, yes. But, like the Bears, not the elite coaches we or they’d actually want.
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I don’t get it. And how would he go about distancing himself from the roster he created?
By leaking he could not fire Poles, that he is pissed he has to report to Warren.... All takes the focus off how he has screwed up both sides of the line
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Wayyyyyy too inspired thinking for the Bears. Carroll would have to be an idiot to work for the McCaskeys.
That.. and he could also be John Fox 2.
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That.. and he could also be John Fox 2.
He will be John Fox 2 because he won’t have a well constructed roster and competent people above him in the organization. The Bears are where coaches go to die.
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Well, yes. But, like the Bears, not the elite coaches we or they’d actually want.
They gotta go somewhere if they want a job. KC was a long time dysfunctional mess before Andy Reid showed up. You guys underestimate the level of bad ownership in the NFL.
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That.. and he could also be John Fox 2.
Doomsday scenario! He could also be Dick Vermeil 2.0.
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Doomsday scenario! He could also be Dick Vermeil 2.0.
He already was a good coach his second time around. This would be third time.
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I would take Pete Carroll in a hot second, dude can coach
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He already was a good coach his second time around. This would be third time.
Not exactly the point. The point is he could also be an old guy that can still get it done.
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He already was a good coach his second time around. This would be third time.
And if you’re looking for a completely identical analogy (which wasn’t what I was shooting for), Fox has three go arounds, too. My only point is there’s no real reason to think Carroll is John Fox other than just being negative for the sake of being negative.
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Carroll’s energy level would likely be 10x that of Fox.
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He already was a good coach his second time around. This would be third time.
And Vermeil was always a good coach. He stepped away on his own accord.
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Not exactly the point. The point is he could also be an old guy that can still get it done.
Exactly the point on being John Fox 2.0 though.
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There's no reason to believe Pete Carroll would be John Fox 2 other than just negativity. In that case, Ben Johnson could be Matt Nagy 2.0
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There's no reason to believe Pete Carroll would be John Fox 2 other than just negativity. In that case, Ben Johnson could be Matt Nagy 2.0
He's an old dude. No one has been clamoring for him to be their head guy, have they?
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Have to disagree with Hugo Weaving. I've seen enough of teams I root for hiring geriatric coaches.
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Carroll's name has been out there. I suspect if he wants a HC job this off-season, he'll get one. I'd say there's a 75% chance he coaches again. That might be low-balling it.
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Bears officially eliminated from postseason contention. And here I thought they'd be able to make a late season push.
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Bears officially eliminated from postseason contention. And here I thought they'd be able to make a late season push.
😂 that's some optimism!!!!
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Makes me feel better about using their games as a pacifier for my Sunday afternoon naps
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Please God, no…
https://x.com/jaychi_bears/status/1869078145703571807?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Please God, no…
https://x.com/jaychi_bears/status/1869078145703571807?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
But he would bring in a top OC . It says so.
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Please God, no…
https://x.com/jaychi_bears/status/1869078145703571807?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Agreed. No thanks.
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If Poles hires Vrabel I might have to jump on the fire Poles train.
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Consistently BTC post-COVID
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Caleb Williams failed Tempo34. The Bears have failed Caleb Williams and Tempo34.
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2024/12/27/24330134/chicago-bears-failing-caleb-williams-ryan-poles
The Bears are failing Caleb Williams
Williams has a lot of work to do on his game, but the Bears have hurt him more than he’s hurt them.
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No breaking news there.
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Just gonna leave this here…
https://x.com/hgrahamnfl/status/1872709136057778259?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Just gonna leave this here…
https://x.com/hgrahamnfl/status/1872709136057778259?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Saw that one earlier. A lot of truth in there for sure, but Caleb has to own some of his poor play and I think for the most part he has. I’m not sure what happened, but the line wasn’t supposed to be this bad. They got worse and it’s basically all the same dudes no matter what PAMan says. Well it was when they were healthy, anyway. Show of hands, who knew who Jake Curhan was before last night?
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Yikes
(https://i.postimg.cc/s25sNQd0/IMG-9982.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZM3ZKKj)
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Think this belongs in the Caleb Williams Sucks thread I started before the season for this very reason.
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https://www.instagram.com/share/BA9P8s8AOt
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JdE0W3Aieo
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Rick Morrissey on target again!
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2024/12/29/is-this-worst-bears-season-ever-why-yes-it-is-caleb-williams-ryan-poles-mccaskey
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"If you believe it is, you also believe that it can get worse, because it always does."
Ouch 😂
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He’s no Hunter Hodies or Dhruv Koul.
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He’s no Hunter Hodies or Dhruv Koul.
Still several notches above women covering the NFL
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Still several notches above women covering the NFL
PAMan begs to differ, he is an avid Colleen Kane reader.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DELuk0_RfBD/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
🤣🤣🤣
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DELuk0_RfBD/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
🤣🤣🤣
He doesn't seem to think much of the organization. 🤣🤣🤣
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He doesn't seem to think much of the organization. 🤣🤣🤣
Dude in section 112 couldn't get a hot dog
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Dude in section 112 couldn't get a hot dog
20 minutes for a Polish.
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My buddy in Portage Park sent that to our group text and we were all dying. He even called me afterwards and hit the highlights again