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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #885 on: April 08, 2024, 05:07:15 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 08, 2024, 04:33:37 PM
You're projecting your Fields thing onto others with Caleb.  It's you who did not allow any criticism of your guy.  If Caleb goes out and in his first few years is a mediocre QB like Fields was here, I will be the first to criticize him.

You've so far whined about:  his car, the fact that he went to a golf tournament, a video he made a joke in on social media, the fact that he didn't sit and let every team's doctors examine him when he knew where he was going, the fact that his team won a bowl game without him.  He hasn't even been drafted yet and you've spent like 6 months crying about every tiny detail of his life.  It's fucking weird!

Yeah, we make fun of you for the stupid shit you choose to whinge about - of course we do.  It's hilarious.


I have “allowed” criticism of “my guy.” To the point where I said your position was justifiable. If thats not an allowance” of criticism, I don’t know what to fucking tell you. What irked me was the complete lack of distribution of blame and the excessive Fields hate. I can only say so many times I get the case for moving on from Fields.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #886 on: April 08, 2024, 05:08:25 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 08, 2024, 04:41:49 PM
Fields made the line look worse.

At times.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #887 on: April 08, 2024, 05:14:16 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 08, 2024, 04:49:21 PM
The defense that wilted against Denver was (minus one guy) the same players that excelled at the end of the year.

Wilted. Epic. The Sh1t QB1 melted down in the 4th quarter and gave Denver the game.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #888 on: April 08, 2024, 05:18:22 PM »
Tempo… how can we compare any players?! I mean with your arguments nobody can be because every year players get better. Even if it’s the same people. Weird.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #889 on: April 08, 2024, 06:06:19 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 08, 2024, 05:07:15 PM

I have “allowed” criticism of “my guy.” To the point where I said your position was justifiable. If thats not an allowance” of criticism, I don’t know what to fucking tell you. What irked me was the complete lack of distribution of blame and the excessive Fields hate. I can only say so many times I get the case for moving on from Fields.

The hate you're talking about is pure projection.  I can't speak for JJ or the guy who exclusively trolls you, but I certainly never hated Fields.  Hell, I was stoked as fuck when we moved up to get him and wanted him to be the answer badly.  I was stoked when we got DJ Moore for him and expected him to have a breakout year, which would've been the absolute ideal situation - having QB figured out but also having two top-10 picks in the draft (including #1) with your QB situation already sorted is a perfect situation.  And I wasn't alone; Justin Fields got more bets and money on him for MVP last year than any other player.  But with DJ Moore as his WR1 instead of Mooney, he was .. about the same.  I was a HELL of a lot more fair to Fields than you've been to Caleb Williams so far, and it isn't remotely close or debatable.

It's not hate.  We pointed out when he played badly and you simply would not allow that.  You insisted that when Fields played badly, it was everyone else's fault - every single time, all of last year.  I literally cannot remember a single time I pointed out something Fields had done poorly and you just said, "yep, gotta be better" - but I DO remember a time I pointed out something he did well and you got mad that I later acknowledged that he did something poorly on a later play without also acknowledging the good play again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #890 on: April 08, 2024, 07:27:58 PM »
The defense gave up about 200 yards and 17 points in the last 16 minutes of the game, but yeah, it was ALL Justin’s fault they lost.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #891 on: April 08, 2024, 07:28:54 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on April 08, 2024, 05:18:22 PM
Tempo… how can we compare any players?! I mean with your arguments nobody can be because every year players get better. Even if it’s the same people. Weird.

Nice strawman.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #892 on: April 08, 2024, 07:44:05 PM »
Plenty of blame to go around in the Denver game, for sure.

In those same last 16 minutes the Bears had four possessions.

1. Three and out
2. Fields fumble returned for a touchdown
3. Turnover on downs
4. Fields interception

Both units played well for 3 quarters and melted down in the fourth.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #893 on: April 08, 2024, 08:20:48 PM »
No fucking shit.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #894 on: April 08, 2024, 08:21:25 PM »
Cannot beat HQ analysis, especially when it comes to football.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #895 on: April 08, 2024, 08:21:46 PM »
Hahahahahaha, man are you bad at this

Literally can't even agree with you without you being mad someone pointed out something Fields did poorly.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #896 on: April 08, 2024, 08:23:18 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 08, 2024, 08:21:25 PM
Cannot beat HQ analysis, especially when it comes to football.

We all wait with bated breath for your analysis of Caleb Williams' social schedule and latest tweet, for sure.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #897 on: April 08, 2024, 08:24:59 PM »
Tempo builds a strawman about how the meltdown was ALL Fields' fault.

I agree with him: it wasn't; the offense melted down at the same time as the defense.

His response:  "no fucking shit".

God damn is that perfect.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #898 on: April 08, 2024, 08:26:57 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on April 08, 2024, 05:18:22 PM
Tempo… how can we compare any players?! I mean with your arguments nobody can be because every year players get better. Even if it’s the same people. Weird.

You seem to know a lot about ball; so I have a few questions for you.

Do 28-32 year old players generally “improve” at the same rate as 21-25 year olds?

Also, oh, let’s just draw a line through the middle of last year’s schedule: The Bears’ 3 “best and most talented” offensive linemen roughly averaged about 15 NFL starts between them with maybe 3 starts together as a unit. In your clearly expert opinion would you say that’s a normal profile for a quality offensive line in the NFL? Looking forward to your answers.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #899 on: April 08, 2024, 08:29:12 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 08, 2024, 08:24:59 PM
Tempo builds a strawman about how the meltdown was ALL Fields' fault.

I agree with him: it wasn't; the offense melted down at the same time as the defense.

His response:  "no fucking shit".

God damn is that perfect.

I’m just glad you pointed out it was EVERYONE’S fault. Thank God for that.
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