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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1125 on: April 26, 2024, 05:41:21 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2024, 05:40:36 PM
In your opinion. A strong case can be made either way.

No it can’t! Look at where he’s at and what happened! Are you blind?! Helen Keller?!
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« Reply #1126 on: April 26, 2024, 05:41:57 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on April 26, 2024, 05:40:24 PM
so he's a top 3 QB in the NFL?  lol

No, what I’m saying is most developing young quarterbacks wouldn’t have succeeded in those conditions either. Few of them would have.
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« Reply #1127 on: April 26, 2024, 05:42:33 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on April 26, 2024, 05:41:21 PM
No it can’t! Look at where he’s at and what happened! Are you blind?! Helen Keller?!

Lots of NFL smart people thought the Bears should keep Fields.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1128 on: April 26, 2024, 05:46:34 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2024, 05:38:50 PM
Yeah, well it takes more than one good WR addition to significantly upgrade the least talented offense in the league. Go figure.

The notion that they just didn’t support him is flat out false.  They didn’t hang him out to dry, they spent their assets improving his supporting cast.  They gave him a chance to show he can be a better than average quarterback, and he didn’t do it.

The notion that a quarterback needs a near perfect situation with more than one elite WR and a top of the league OL to be average or better is just fantasy for dug in Fields fans.
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« Reply #1129 on: April 26, 2024, 05:47:25 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2024, 05:42:33 PM
Lots of NFL smart people thought the Bears should keep Fields.

Of course they did! They are out to beat them! I just linked that Mel Kiper Jr. just stated Williams might be the best QB he’s ever evaluated. Ever. No GM is passing on that with Fields at QB. Not a single one. Zip.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1130 on: April 26, 2024, 05:48:27 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2024, 05:41:57 PM
No, what I’m saying is most developing young quarterbacks wouldn’t have succeeded in those conditions either. Few of them would have.

A lot of guys in bad situations have been notably better than Fields was this year.  I know you don’t want to admit that, but it’s still true.  He wasn’t on an elite offense, but he wasn’t on an absolutely talent bereft horrendous offense either.  He just wasn’t good enough.
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« Reply #1131 on: April 26, 2024, 05:48:57 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2024, 05:42:33 PM
Lots of NFL smart people thought the Bears should keep Fields.

And every GM in the league could’ve had him as a starter for a 4th or 5th round pick and passed.
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« Reply #1132 on: April 26, 2024, 05:50:33 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 26, 2024, 05:40:36 PM
In your opinion. A strong case can be made either way.

Any case that Fields was “good enough” this year is laughable and I’m pretty sure you know it, otherwise you wouldn’t have needed to spend all season throwing everyone in his vicinity under the bus every week.
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« Reply #1133 on: April 26, 2024, 05:50:46 PM »
No GM is drafting #1 is passing on Caleb Williams because of Justin Fields. Not a single one. You’re delusional!
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« Reply #1134 on: April 26, 2024, 05:55:08 PM »
It doesn’t take more than to look at what they got for Fields and what they could’ve gotten for the pick to see that’s true.

If it was even a debate Fields would’ve fetched more in a trade, and be lined up somewhere to start this year.
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« Reply #1135 on: April 26, 2024, 06:14:55 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2024, 05:48:57 PM
And every GM in the league could’ve had him as a starter for a 4th or 5th round pick and passed.

Crickets…
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« Reply #1136 on: April 26, 2024, 06:15:08 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on April 26, 2024, 05:50:46 PM
No GM is drafting #1 is passing on Caleb Williams because of Justin Fields. Not a single one. You’re delusional!

Crickets…
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1137 on: April 26, 2024, 07:28:22 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 26, 2024, 05:46:34 PM
The notion that they just didn’t support him is flat out false.  They didn’t hang him out to dry, they spent their assets improving his supporting cast.  They gave him a chance to show he can be a better than average quarterback, and he didn’t do it.

The notion that a quarterback needs a near perfect situation with more than one elite WR and a top of the league OL to be average or better is just fantasy for dug in Fields fans.

It was still a below average unit with a coordinator they deemed not good enough. Most 24 year old QBs aren’t “elevating” that significantly.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1138 on: April 26, 2024, 07:30:23 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on April 26, 2024, 06:14:55 PM
Crickets…

You waited a whole 30 minutes to post “Crickets…” I made my kid dinner and took a shower. Sorry I’m not responding to every comment in real time.

Actually, it wasn’t even 30 minutes.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1139 on: April 26, 2024, 07:31:17 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on April 26, 2024, 05:50:46 PM
No GM is drafting #1 is passing on Caleb Williams because of Justin Fields. Not a single one. You’re delusional!

What is this in response to?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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