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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1845 on: December 05, 2024, 01:20:25 PM »
Quote from: Noam Chompsky on December 05, 2024, 10:14:36 AM
Hell no.

Can you please explain your resistance to Artie? He's done wonders in Pittsburgh with Wilson and Fields, a poor offensive line, and limited weapons at other skilled positions. Seems like he would be a good fit for this Bears squad.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1846 on: December 05, 2024, 01:20:57 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 05, 2024, 11:17:02 AM
isn't SI just AI journalism now

Good observation.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1847 on: December 05, 2024, 02:32:12 PM »
Quote from: Mike Florio on December 05, 2024, 01:20:25 PM
Can you please explain your resistance to Artie? He's done wonders in Pittsburgh with Wilson and Fields, a poor offensive line, and limited weapons at other skilled positions. Seems like he would be a good fit for this Bears squad.

He was terrible in Atlanta, and his play-calling is very vanilla and conservative.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1848 on: December 05, 2024, 02:33:06 PM »
Why would I want a failed head coach?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1849 on: December 05, 2024, 02:44:32 PM »
Quote from: Noam Chompsky on December 05, 2024, 02:33:06 PM
Why would I want a failed head coach?

Mike Florio can argue whatever he wants, but weren't Belichick and Pete Carroll "failed" head coaches at one point? Not saying Smith is either of them, but such a hard rule seems a bit much given that we have seen far more Mark Trestmans and Eberloses than John Foxes.
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« Reply #1850 on: December 05, 2024, 02:47:38 PM »
Yes, but I’m not hoping to find a needle in a haystack. Most failed head coaches will again be failed head coaches.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1851 on: December 05, 2024, 02:50:55 PM »
Quote from: Noam Chompsky on December 05, 2024, 02:47:38 PM
Yes, but I’m not hoping to find a needle in a haystack. Most failed head coaches will again be failed head coaches.

Most head coaches will be ex-head coaches too.
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« Reply #1852 on: December 05, 2024, 02:54:38 PM »
True. But let’s face it, ownership has to look like they’re trying. If they announce Arthur Smith as the next head coach Bears fans will descend on to Lake Forest with pitch forks.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1853 on: December 05, 2024, 03:04:43 PM »
Quote from: Noam Chompsky on December 05, 2024, 02:54:38 PM
True. But let’s face it, ownership has to look like they’re trying. If they announce Arthur Smith as the next head coach Bears fans will descend on to Lake Forest with pitch forks.

Skeptical that would happen. It did not happen when they picked any of their recent lackluster loser coaches.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1854 on: December 05, 2024, 03:07:33 PM »
People just got Trestmaned, Nagy’d and Flused. Patience is running short.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1855 on: December 05, 2024, 03:09:54 PM »
Don’t think I believe this story from PAMan’s football guru Dan McNeil. Not because I think Warren wouldn’t do it, but because I don’t think anyone with the Bears really wanted Harbaugh, and I’m not convinced Harbaugh wanted them. Runs contrary to Hub Arkush’s report that Harbaugh (and his wife) wanted California. Harbaugh doesn’t fit the McCaskey profile, and Poles would be castrating himself if he hired Harbaugh.

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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1856 on: December 05, 2024, 03:13:42 PM »
Quote from: Noam Chompsky on December 05, 2024, 03:09:54 PM
Don’t think I believe this story from PAMan’s football guru Dan McNeil. Not because I think Warren wouldn’t do it, but because I don’t think anyone with the Bears really wanted Harbaugh, and I’m not convinced Harbaugh wanted them. Runs contrary to Hub Arkush’s report that Harbaugh (and his wife) wanted California. Harbaugh doesn’t fit the McCaskey profile, and Poles would be castrating himself if he hired Harbaugh.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1DsBVR456w/?mibextid=K35XfP

I have yet to listen to Dumpy Dan's pod that came out today, but the argument that Warren hates Harbaugh has a smell of truth to it, right? Weren't there issues with Harbaugh being uncooperative in the recruiting and sign stealing investigations?
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1857 on: December 05, 2024, 04:29:32 PM »
My Guy Lombardi treating the Harbaugh story as true and mocking the notion that the Bear job is as desirable as Warren says on his pod today.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1858 on: December 05, 2024, 05:50:54 PM »
I totally believe that Warren would shoot it down. I’m not convinced there was real interest on either side.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
« Reply #1859 on: December 06, 2024, 02:04:25 PM »
Love the talk about the Shield here.

Max, Arthur Smith had no QB in Atlanta. Chicago has one! Look what he has done with Russ and Fields! And the line in Pittsburgh is not that great, like in Chicago, but Chicago has receiver weapons. I think you may want to think on this a little more. I await your measured opinion.

Plus, not every hot young coordinator knows how to be a head coach. Sometimes experience and failing help improve future performance! Look how often Hub Arkush's Pro Football Weekly has filed for bankruptcy and is still going. Hmmm, maybe not the best example since I, and Pro Football Talk, singlehandedly destroyed Hub and PFW! But I think you understand my overall point.
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