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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on September 11, 2023, 01:31:03 PM
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What kind of pussy ass coach coaches for FGs? John Shoop level shit here. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Grow a pair. This is the same guy who kept running the ball down 14 to GB late in the game in GB. And the same guy who called a TE sneak. I’m thinking Gutless might be a better fit on Nagy’s staff.
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And the same guy who didn’t think to get the ball to DJ Moore more than twice.
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And the same guy who called a quarterback sneak from the shotgun! ♂️
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Legitimately though, sticking with the run down 14 to Aaron Rodgers, and running a QB sneak from Shotgun were two of the wilder things I’ve ever seen an OC do. Peter.Principle.
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And you called me a meatball yesterday...lol
I read your first post imagining the SNL superfans with the accent. Fits perfect.
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Until we see the film with all 22 I do not understand how you can completely blame Getsy for the ball not going downfield. For all we know, Fields is now happy to be Checkdown Charlie unless guys are 5 yards (college) wide open. We saw that was a problem last year.
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Until we see the film with all 22 I do not understand how you can completely blame Getsy for the ball not going downfield. For all we know, Fields is now happy to be Checkdown Charlie unless guys are 5 yards (college) wide open. We saw that was a problem last year.
Jasn would get everybody working as a team with concentration, teamwork and lunches supplied by corporate.
There's no time for assigning blame.
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Until we see the film with all 22 I do not understand how you can completely blame Getsy for the ball not going downfield. For all we know, Fields is now happy to be Checkdown Charlie unless guys are 5 yards (college) wide open. We saw that was a problem last year.
This is where you’re wrong. I don’t completely blame Gutless, I mean Getsy. But he is not helping the situation. That I can just about guarantee you
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Until we see the film with all 22 I do not understand how you can completely blame Getsy for the ball not going downfield. For all we know, Fields is now happy to be Checkdown Charlie unless guys are 5 yards (college) wide open. We saw that was a problem last year.
Actually some pretty good discussion between Parkins and Spiegel on this a couple minutes ago. I’m sure you wouldn’t be interested though because of your meatball biases.
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And you called me a meatball yesterday...lol
I read your first post imagining the SNL superfans with the accent. Fits perfect.
Piss poor post. I’m the originator of the SNL superfan insult. Copycat.
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This is where you’re wrong. I don’t completely blame Gutless, I mean Getsy. But he is not helping the situation. That I can just about guarantee you
Fields being Checkdown Charlie. Here are posts with posts and video from The Twitter where Fields fails to throw the ball downfield to an open guy.
https://www.chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=127028&p=3955356&sid=d5365de38824b18e9d1f483e5bd0ed1e#p3955332
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Piss poor post. I’m the originator of the SNL superfan insult. Copycat.
Eh. It just applied in this instance.
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Actually some pretty good discussion between Parkins and Spiegel on this a couple minutes ago. I’m sure you wouldn’t be interested though because of your meatball biases.
Let me guess. Parko is putting the blame entirely on Getsy.
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Actually some pretty good discussion between Parkins and Spiegel on this a couple minutes ago. I’m sure you wouldn’t be interested though because of your meatball biases.
I am interested. Getsy is at fault for not being able to get this stuff corrected.
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Let me guess. Parko is putting the blame entirely on Getsy.
Probably. They have to blame someone else given how vested they are in Fields. See Tempo's sig with my quote....
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Let me guess. Parko is putting the blame entirely on Getsy.
Not exactly.
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Not exactly.
Ok. Well, I don't listen to that horseshit, and I don't follow any of them on Twitter (I refuse to call it X) anymore. If you want to shoot us a cliff notes, feel free. Otherwise, I'll continue on with my day.
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Ok. Well, I don't listen to that horseshit, and I don't follow any of them on Twitter (I refuse to call it X) anymore. If you want to shoot us a cliff notes, feel free. Otherwise, I'll continue on with my day.
I only caught some of it. I might give it a full re-listen then share. I’ll definitely share what I heard later. Picking my kid up from school currently.
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If there are videos where there are no routes being run downfield, let's see them. Obviously we know there were a bunch of designed Schoop/Crowton BS screens. But they tried to pass, what, 44 times yesterday? He ran 7 times? He threw the ball 3x 10 yards + over the LOS?
With all the bitching from Bear Twitter Experts there has to be tons of video posted showing that there were no routes run downfield on 25 to 30 (? or more) of the pass plays that support your narrative. Let's see them.
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Rather than type it all out and maybe recap it poorly, I will just post the link. Stick with it. The discussion gets pretty good about the 2:40 mark. I feel like they spent a couple pretty good hours talking about it, and they are pretty objective IMO.
https://go.audacy.com/vY6VB1Z70Cb
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Make sure you hear Parkins’ point about 2:54-2:55. “You have to know.”
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Make sure you hear Parkins’ point about 2:54-2:55. “You have to know.”
I will listen later tonight.
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I will listen later tonight.
From the beginning to about 3:30 is pretty strong. About an hour. A lot talked about. And I think pretty objective stuff. I think Parkins even says he’d take Caleb Williams if the chance is there.
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PAMan, make sure you listen from about 3:37. Touches exactly on things we discussed via text. Good stuff.
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The segment with Mark Grote is also outstanding.
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Grote says he sees plays where it looks like Claypool is not going hard.
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Pretty sad.
https://x.com/paytonsun/status/1701347414748094844?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Pretty sad.
https://x.com/paytonsun/status/1701347414748094844?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Seeing why the Steelers were so eager to get rid of him. Time to cut bait if you're not gonna even make an inkling of effort.
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Seeing why the Steelers were so eager to get rid of him. Time to cut bait if you're not gonna even make an inkling of effort.
Probably my biggest beef with Poles so far. Didn’t like the trade from the moment I heard it. He was known to be a knucklehead.
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So listened to Parkins show. They completely destroyed Tempo's false narrative that Getsy does not want the ball being thrown downfield. They absolutely obliterated that argument. (I guess I do watch football, Tempo....) Tempo 0 ThePAThey 1 (scoring not indicative of the blowout nature of the victory.)
Spiegel gets it. He must read this board!
Parkins wants more running and threat of running so maybe Fields can actually pass the ball. Given that Fields is now Checkdown Charlie, and shows zero promise of being coachable (despite all that alleged hard work over the spring and summer), yeah, may as well let him run amuck and just throw long when he feels like it. If he gets hurt, he gets hurts, and move on. He's not going to be a pocket passer, so why bother. He will be one and done as a starter when this contract ends.
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I’m struggling to remember where I said they didn’t want the ball thrown downfield (minus Sunday).
Also, In text messages you said 10x that Parkins wants Fields to run like last year, and I told you 10x that’s not what he said. And then 20 minutes later you finally realized I was right. So your listening skills are dubious IMO. You’re very much a confirmation bias listener.
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I’m assuming you are referring to where Flus’ said “yeah, we want Justin to throw downfield.” See, here’s the thing. Flus’ can SAY anything. Doesn’t make it true or not true. But when DJ Moore says after the game that the short stuff was a big part of the game plan, and it jibes perfectly with what I saw on the field, I tend to conclude that is factual.
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https://postimg.cc/gallery/Sk8tsS2
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This is how a long exchange of “he said this - he did not say this” concluded.
(https://i.postimg.cc/LskdyHcj/IMG-4848.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kV5hGdX5)
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Anyway, to recap: Parkins was saying it’s stupid to go from too many designed runs to basically none (the only designed run Sunday was the QB sneak). PAMan heard that as “Parkins wants last year but better passing.” That isn’t what he said. He wants Fields’ athleticism to remain a threat to keep the defense soft. When the offense was struggling Sunday, they could have probably benefited from a couple designed runs. We know the screens weren’t working.
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Plus I think the running gets Fields’ confidence up and gets him into a better flow of the game. Hopefully at some point as he matures as a quarterback he won’t need that gimmick to get him going, but at this point this is what he is.
Nagy did the same thing with Mitch. Coached the athleticism out of his game then he was toast as a prospect. But Mitch was never going to be good because he couldn’t see the field and wasn’t accurate. And before you go there, Mitch had probably 20+ more starts than Fields has had. Plus, Nagy broke him. The only guy who can’t be broken by Nagy is Mahomes.
Chump edit: Trubisky had 53 starts before he was kicked to the curb. Fields is at 28. So a difference of 25.
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Trubisky was an awful pick by a trash organization run by the McCaskeys.
It's got nothing to do with game planning.
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Trubisky was an awful pick by a trash organization run by the McCaskeys.
It's got nothing to do with game planning.
Can always count on the hard hitting quality analysis from Mn.
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Can always count on the hard hitting quality analysis from Mn.
You can dissect the game all you want but the opening series was flat out stupid and the game went downhill from there. The coaches and players weren't prepared.
Those things happen in poorly run organizations.
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You can dissect the game all you want but the opening series was flat out stupid and the game went downhill from there. The coaches and players weren't prepared.
Those things happen in poorly run organizations.
Correct. I’m guessing also rebuilding ones. The GM and HC are 18 games into their positions. I don’t expect everything they do to be the correct thing. Can they self-evaluate and learn? That’s what I want to know.
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Are the Steelers and Bills poorly run organizations? They both got embarrassed week 1.
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I’m struggling to remember where I said they didn’t want the ball thrown downfield (minus Sunday).
Also, In text messages you said 10x that Parkins wants Fields to run like last year, and I told you 10x that’s not what he said. And then 20 minutes later you finally realized I was right. So your listening skills are dubious IMO. You’re very much a confirmation bias listener.
As I told you while I was listening to his shit takes, the fucker kept saying he wants Fields running like last year. 2 hours into his show he clarified that he did not want him running 15x a game.
So who actually listened? Me..
Who actually knows that Getsy wants the shitty passing QB to throw the ball downfield? Me..
Your viewpoint on Getsy's playcalling got exposed, debunked, and obliterated on that show yesterday. Talk about "narratives" and "bias"! To paraphrase The Coach, zero, that's your football IQ, pal!
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Are the Steelers and Bills poorly run organizations? They both got embarrassed week 1.
Lol
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Plus I think the running gets Fields’ confidence up and gets him into a better flow of the game. Hopefully at some point as he matures as a quarterback he won’t need that gimmick to get him going, but at this point this is what he is.
Nagy did the same thing with Mitch. Coached the athleticism out of his game then he was toast as a prospect. But Mitch was never going to be good because he couldn’t see the field and wasn’t accurate. And before you go there, Mitch had probably 20+ more starts than Fields has had. Plus, Nagy broke him. The only guy who can’t be broken by Nagy is Mahomes.
Chump edit: Trubisky had 53 starts before he was kicked to the curb. Fields is at 28. So a difference of 25.
Can easily swap out Mitch for Fields. Guy sucks as a passing QB. Run the fucking option and throw occasionally.
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Again, Parkins never said that he “wanted last year.” He said he thought it was dumb to eliminate designed runs entirely. Said there was middle ground.
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This is how a long exchange of “he said this - he did not say this” concluded.
(https://i.postimg.cc/LskdyHcj/IMG-4848.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kV5hGdX5)
He finally clarified after 2 fucking hours of whining that Fields was not running like last year.
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Again, Parkins never said that he “wanted last year.” He said he thought it was dumb to eliminate designed runs entirely. Said there was middle ground.
Yes, he did.
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As I told you while I was listening to his shit takes, the fucker kept saying he wants Fields running like last year. 2 hours into his show he clarified that he did not want him running 15x a game.
So who actually listened? Me..
Who actually knows that Getsy wants the shitty passing QB to throw the ball downfield? Me..
Your viewpoint on Getsy's playcalling got exposed, debunked, and obliterated on that show yesterday. Talk about "narratives" and "bias"! To paraphrase The Coach, zero, that's your football IQ, pal!
Hilarious. And hilariously disconnected from reality.
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Yes, he did.
I asked you like 4 or 5 times to tell me when he said it, and I’d go back and listen. You never gave me a time frame.
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From the get-go Parkins’ point was it was dumb to go from “too many” to none.
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PAMan’s guy Nike North still loves Mitch Trubisky. So not surprising, and hilarious at the same time. You still listen to him and McNeil right, PAMan?
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Can they self-evaluate and learn? That’s what I want to know.
They've been doing this long enough to know not to go for it from your own 40 on 4th and 1 with only 3+ minutes gone in the game.
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They've been doing this long enough to know not to go for it from your own 40 on 4th and 1 with only 3+ minutes gone in the game.
Hey gramps, it’s not 1964 anymore. Teams take more chances in 2023.
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My biggest problem with that was the stupid TE sneak. Nagyesque bullshit.
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I’m struggling to remember where I said they didn’t want the ball thrown downfield (minus Sunday).
Also, In text messages you said 10x that Parkins wants Fields to run like last year, and I told you 10x that’s not what he said. And then 20 minutes later you finally realized I was right. So your listening skills are dubious IMO. You’re very much a confirmation bias listener.
You started a whole topic blasting Getsy for his playcalling. The problem was the QB refused to throw the ball downfield, when he could, and checked down
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PAMan’s guy Nike North still loves Mitch Trubisky. So not surprising, and hilarious at the same time. You still listen to him and McNeil right, PAMan?
I've never listened to any Mike North shows.
I don't listen to McNeil's Indiana stations shows. I do listen to his podcast.
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I asked you like 4 or 5 times to tell me when he said it, and I’d go back and listen. You never gave me a time frame.
I told you the whole first segment was him whining about it. The first segment was 22 minutes long and the last 7 was callers. Go listen to it.
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My biggest problem with that was the stupid TE sneak. Nagyesque bullshit.
After the horseshit 3rd down play, just swallow some pride and punt the ball. Maybe put the Packers inside their own 20 for Love's 2nd career start.
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Hilarious. And hilariously disconnected from reality.
You are delusional. They took your argument and shoved it up your ass and out your mouth.
Getsy wanted the shitty passing QB to throw the ball downfield and he couldn't or wouldn't. End of story. Your bias and narrative was completely exposed.
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Plus I think the running gets Fields’ confidence up and gets him into a better flow of the game. Hopefully at some point as he matures as a quarterback he won’t need that gimmick to get him going, but at this point this is what he is.
Nagy did the same thing with Mitch. Coached the athleticism out of his game then he was toast as a prospect. But Mitch was never going to be good because he couldn’t see the field and wasn’t accurate. And before you go there, Mitch had probably 20+ more starts than Fields has had. Plus, Nagy broke him. The only guy who can’t be broken by Nagy is Mahomes.
Chump edit: Trubisky had 53 starts before he was kicked to the curb. Fields is at 28. So a difference of 25.
I wish this would fit in a sig. So many terrible takes. Hilarious.
Mitch sucked. Mitch Fields is what we have to deal with.
And Parkins is right that you have to go back to last year's offense. The reason is that the QB is incapable of figuring out how to play in an NFL offense.
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You are delusional. They took your argument and shoved it up your ass and out your mouth.
Getsy wanted the shitty passing QB to throw the ball downfield and he couldn't or wouldn't. End of story. Your bias and narrative was completely exposed.
And on some of those couldn'ts or wouldn'ts, just tuck the ball and go if he can pick up 10 or 20 and get out of bounds untouched. Like he did a lot of last year.
And everybody knows they want to go downfield.
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Trubisky was an awful pick by a trash organization run by the McCaskeys.
It's got nothing to do with game planning.
Trubisky made money beating up on Lovie's defense.
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You are delusional. They took your argument and shoved it up your ass and out your mouth.
Getsy wanted the shitty passing QB to throw the ball downfield and he couldn't or wouldn't. End of story. Your bias and narrative was completely exposed.
Lol sure
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You started a whole topic blasting Getsy for his playcalling.
I did. The same coordinator who remained run heavy down 14 to Aarong Rodgers on the road in the 4th quarter. The same coordinator who called a QB sneak from the shotgun. The same coordinator called a TE sneak Sunday. The same coordinator who called a bunch of bitch ass screens that weren’t working. The same coordinator who couldn’t find a way to target DJ Moore
more than twice when his offense was struggling. A lot of what I’ve seen so far suggests he may not be up to the task.
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Lol sure
Just admit you were wrong.
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Just admit you were wrong.
Fucking hilarious.
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Seven year NFL safety.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wB2CRnCY/IMG-4850.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5HH7ZK9s)
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The same coordinator who couldn’t find a way to target DJ Moore
more than twice when his offense was struggling.
All fair game except maybe this, unless you believe they should have played a different QB who has the balls to throw the ball downfield. Because it seems like the current occupant of the position is too gutless to do it.
Good thing he worked so hard in the offseason to still not get the concept of NFL Open.
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Fucking hilarious.
You. Were. Wrong.
You had me listen to your guys Parkins, Spiegel, and Grote, and they, along with Eberlose, all said there were open throws down the field that Check Down Justin turned down.
Just admit you were talking out your ass.
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Seven year NFL safety.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wB2CRnCY/IMG-4850.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5HH7ZK9s)
Getsy cannot make JFC actually throw the ball to open guys downfield.
What is the over/under on games before Moore goes ballistic on the sidelines because Mitch Fields won't throw the ball to him downfield when he is NFL Open?
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Seven year NFL safety.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wB2CRnCY/IMG-4850.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5HH7ZK9s)
Wishing doesn't make it happen. Somebody needs to throw the ball too.
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Any chance Uberlose, Gutless and Williams actually talk game plan ?
Or do you think Uberlose tells Gutless he's on his own and good luck ?
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Wishing doesn't make it happen. Somebody needs to throw the ball too.
That is not part of Tempo's narrative since it does not confirm his bias that Justin Fields can walk on water.
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Wishing doesn't make it happen. Somebody needs to throw the ball too.
LMAO
Flus said they were scheming to take Moore away. Or do we only listen to him when the narrative is convenient?
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“What the heck are we doing here?” Getsy really has guys playing assignment football. Don’t worry I’ll share some that don’t reflect well on Fields, too when I get to them.
https://x.com/tjenkinselite/status/1701290759654097087?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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LMAO
Flus said they were scheming to take Moore away. Or do we only listen to him when the narrative is convenient?
If he is open downfield, he needs to read the field and throw the ball to him. He was checking down instead. This really isn't complicated.
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That is not part of Tempo's narrative since it does not confirm his bias that Justin Fields can walk on water.
It's almost as tho he didn't watch the game and was waiting for the "answers" to the short game "passing attack" analysis.
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This one is pretty bad. And it’s all on Fields.
https://x.com/tjenkinselite/status/1701283210003378331?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Flus said they were scheming to take Moore away.
Call the NFL !!! Somebody needs to put a stop to this, and right away. 😂😂
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If he is open downfield, he needs to read the field and throw the ball to him. He was checking down instead. This really isn't complicated.
No where did I say that Fields had a perfect game. I’m sure he missed a couple guys downfield. And I just posted a video of it. Getsy is PART of the problem though.
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This one is pretty bad. And it’s all on Fields.
https://x.com/tjenkinselite/status/1701283210003378331?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
We saw this one yesterday
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Call the NFL !!! Somebody needs to put a stop to this, and right away. 😂😂
You’re an odd dude.
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“What the heck are we doing here?” Getsy really has guys playing assignment football. Don’t worry I’ll share some that don’t reflect well on Fields, too when I get to them.
https://x.com/tjenkinselite/status/1701290759654097087?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
No one is saying Getsy is blameless or does not suck. Just that you cannot criticize him for Fields checking down and refusing to throw balls downfield to open receivers.
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We saw this one yesterday
Kewl.
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No where did I say that Fields had a perfect game. I’m sure he missed a couple guys downfield. And I just posted a video of it. Getsy is PART of the problem though.
Yes, he is part of the problem. But he cannot hit a video game controller and make Fields throw the damn ball downfield to open receivers instead of checking down.
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Here’s one of JFC getting the ball downfield. Not to say he was perfect by any stretch. He wasn’t. No one was Sunday. Including Luke Gutless.
https://x.com/tjenkinselite/status/1701268110643454120?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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You’re an odd dude.
We had some patterns for Moore but GB took them away is a lame excuse for the passing game.
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Yes, he is part of the problem. But he cannot hit a video game controller and make Fields throw the damn ball downfield to open receivers instead of checking down.
Ok, this is progress! Yes. Justin needs to be better. But I think they are putting him in a position where he needs to be near perfect to look good. I’m far from the only person who thinks Getsy had a bad day Sunday.
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Fair criticism here. Also “this whole game isn’t on JF.”
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This is some great analysis IMO. It’s plenty critical of Fields, but also says it’s clear they are coaching some of the aggressiveness out of Fields. Says he doesn’t think he’s being told to “just go rip it.” This is my main point. No one is likely to lose their job this year (maybe Williams if the defense sucks). FIND OUT what the fuck you have THIS YEAR. If Fields gets hit, so be it. Fields has been a touchdown to checkdown QB his whole life. Highly unlikely he just decided on his own to become Checkdown Charlie. Says some of the scheming looks “incompetent.”
Starts at 1:26.
https://go.audacy.com/3jnIsiwB2Cb
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So as I’ve been saying all along, Fields has PLENTY to improve on. What I’ve also said is that they have put him in a position to where he needs to be near perfect to succeed at a high level. They clearly are not putting him in the best position to succeed.
In the audio from Tim Jenkins.
“That’s one of those plays where Tom, Peyton or Mahomes says “I’m not effing doing that, we’re throwing that play out today right, Andy?”
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Jenkins was every bit as critical of Getsy (I’m not sure he even said his name though). Critical of guys like Chase Claypool as well. But hey, let’s just go the lazy route and blame it all on Fields, so much more convenient.
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I like this analysis (Tim Jenkins) a lot. He’s critical of Fields when he should be, but also acknowledges there are other things at play.
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So as I’ve been saying all along, Fields has PLENTY to improve on. What I’ve also said is that they have put him in a position to where he needs to be near perfect to succeed at a high level. They clearly are not putting him in the best position to succeed.
In the audio from Tim Jenkins.
“That’s one of those plays where Tom, Peyton or Mahomes says “I’m not effing doing that, we’re throwing that play out today right, Andy?”
I think the "he has to be near perfect" is a narrative and an excuse for a lot of this.
Is Getsy bad? Yes.
Is the line bad? Yes.
Is Fields bad? Yes.
Is Getsy optimizing Fields' strengths? No, because
Getsy wants an NFL QB not an RPO College QB.
Should Getsy say fuck it and just do an RPO college offensive scheme and allow Fields to run amuck and fling the ball when he thinks a guy is 5 yards wide open? Yes.
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Ok, well learning to play NFL quarterback is hard. That’s why there’s only 10 or so good ones every year. The rest average to mediocre. It’s even harder when you’re not being set up to succeed. Fields has been a starter for just over a season and a half. It reasonable to be critical of Fields. It’s unreasonable to point to him as the sole reason the Bears are bad, or that he isn’t a high end starter yet.
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Ok, well learning to play NFL quarterback is hard. That’s why there’s only 10 or so good ones every year. The rest average to mediocre. It’s even harder when you’re not being set up to succeed. Fields has been a starter for just over a season and a half. It reasonable to be critical of Fields. It’s unreasonable to point to him as the sole reason the Bears are bad, or that he isn’t a high end starter yet.
There does come a point when you say, he’s just not the guy. You can usually tell if somebody has it or not. The #1 thing is you see Fields can’t and isn’t processing the field/defense like he should be. The reason Purdy was/is good so quick is he CAN process that information. Just like other QB’s who are successful. You/they saw Lance wasn’t that guy. It’s very hard to “teach” that asset to somebody. You can have all the physical traits in the world, but that is the most important one. Period.
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There does come a point when you say, he’s just not the guy. You can usually tell if somebody has it or not. The #1 thing is you see Fields can’t and isn’t processing the field/defense like he should be. The reason Purdy was/is good so quick is he CAN process that information. Just like other QB’s who are successful. You/they saw Lance wasn’t that guy. It’s very hard to “teach” that asset to somebody. You can have all the physical traits in the world, but that is the most important one. Period.
At 28 starts, and not much to work with up to this point, I don’t think we’re “there yet.” Mitch got 50 starts and would have had more if not for injury. Let’s get to the back of this season before we make an “he’s just not the guy” declarations. And if Fields fails here, I promise you he will get another chance elsewhere.
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Again, Purdy has blocking, weapons, and coaching that Fields does not enjoy. I won’t argue that Purdy is a better “processor.” You know who else was a good “processor.” Chad Pennington. He was ok. But not a stud.
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Brandon Aiyuk would be far and away the 2nd best weapon on this team (and very close to DJ). And he’s like #4 in the pecking order in SF. And Purdy has a top 3 OL.
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But that can be improved, See: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts. Not everyone enters the league a processing machine. You know who is supposed to be an elite processor? Mac Jones. Is he elite?
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That’s why Shanahan was rumored to be love with Mac Jones but they went with more upside in Lance.
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You think Purdy would do better with the Bears than Fields is? You think the 49ers would make that trade straight up?!
I too don’t think it’s time to give up on Fields yet either, but I’d take Purdy in a heartbeat.
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I think Purdy might make the offense look more consistent, but limit the upside. So, in other words. Better shore up the defense.
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And let’s not forget that Purdy is a complete anomaly. It’s pretty rare to find a day 3 quarterback who can be a legitimate NFL starter.
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I think Purdy might make the offense look more consistent, but limit the upside. So, in other words. Better shore up the defense.
Limit the upside? What upside? They had a chance to show what that upside might be on Sunday, when they were getting waxed. They elected to run and check down.
We didn't see any upside Sunday.
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And let’s not forget that Purdy is a complete anomaly. It’s pretty rare to find a day 3 quarterback who can be a legitimate NFL starter.
Brady was too. And no, dipshit, I'm not comparing Purdy to Brady.
It happens. Should teams look for that? Of course not. But it happens.
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Limit the upside? What upside? They had a chance to show what that upside might be on Sunday, when they were getting waxed. They elected to run and check down.
We didn't see any upside Sunday.
You can only get quality analysis like this here, folks.
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Brady was too. And no, dipshit, I'm not comparing Purdy to Brady.
It happens. Should teams look for that? Of course not. But it happens.
Yes. I’m aware that Brady was a 6th round pick. 23 years ago. As I said. Rare…
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You can only get quality analysis like this here, folks.
What's wrong with what I said? Elaborate
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This is exactly what you were bitching about late in the game Sunday. Now, you want to insult me when I said basically the same thing.
Jesus Christ man
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What's wrong with what I said? Elaborate
Well for one, you took a one game sample size and focused on that. A game in which Getsy did not fully utilize Fields’ greatest asset. His legs. When I say upside, I mean long-term. Not a single game.
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Nagy did something very similar to Trubisky. “Hey man, that’s awesome that you can make plays with your legs, but stay in the pocket and be the guy I want you to be instead of the guy you are!”
Developing a quarterback is like painting a masterpiece. You do it stroke by stroke. ADDING layers and texture to the subject that you already have.
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Well for one, you took a one game sample size and focused on that. A game in which Getsy did not fully utilize Fields’ greatest asset. His legs. When I say upside, I mean long-term. Not a single game.
He didn't use his legs, and he didn't let him throw downfield.
Yeah, fire him, I guess.
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This is exactly what you were bitching about late in the game Sunday. Now, you want to insult me when I said basically the same thing.
Jesus Christ man
Oh you weren’t wrong there. It sucked. All the way around.
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He didn't use his legs, and he didn't let him throw downfield.
Yeah, fire him, I guess.
I’d like to see another quarterback coach/offensive guru added to the room at least. I’m a Bears junkie and obviously a Justin Fields backer, and I can’t even recall who their quarterback coach is. I’m going to have to look it up.
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Andrew Janocko. Yeah, I probably should have remembered that. But why is he virtually invisible? Who has developed?
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You can only get quality analysis like this here, folks.
Oh you weren’t wrong there. It sucked. All the way around.
So, now do you understand why you are a fucking pain in the ass to have a conversation with? That bullshit comment was made, followed by, yeah, you weren't wrong there.
Man, I swear.
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He’s been a QB coach in the NFL two years best I can tell. Spent one year ten years ago as quarterback coach at Mercyhurst. Lol
Can maybe blame this one on the McCaskeys. There HAS to be a better QB coach out there. Poles should be doing everything he can to maximize Fields. I’m not sure Janocko and Getsy are doing that.
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So, now do you understand why you are a fucking pain in the ass to have a conversation with? That bullshit comment was made, followed by, yeah, you weren't wrong there.
Man, I swear.
Again, I thought it odd to look at a one game sample. A game in which the game plan included lots of screens and no designed runs. Your post sounded more like a rant than analysis. But hey, I’m with you. It was bad.
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If it was a rant, I give that post a B+.
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You think the 49ers would make the trade straight up with us?!
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And would you make the trade if you were the GM?
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I get wanting Fields to run less. If the offense is moving chains and scoring points, call whatever you want. But if the offense is struggling, you have to adapt, and maybe get Fields on the run a bit. I don’t know Xs and Os well enough to be a coordinator, but play-calling theory and philosophy doesn’t take a genius. Run more of what works, and less of what doesn’t.
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And would you make the trade if you were the GM?
Fuck no.
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Again, I thought it odd to look at a one game sample. A game in which the game plan included lots of screens and no designed runs. Your post sounded more like a rant than analysis. But hey, I’m with you. It was bad.
I'm talking on a message board, with a few other people. I'm not looking for approval for what I post. I don't give a fuck about what grade you give me for what I say.
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Not unless you gave me 2-3 games to see what Purdy as a Bear looks like. Keep in mind, he’d have Getsy, Chase Claypool, Lucas Patrick, and Nate Davis to work with. Not Shanahan, McCaferry, Debo, Kittle, and Aiyuk. And their all world LT whose name I can’t remember at the moment.
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Fuck no.
I knew you wouldn’t. Now answer the other one…
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I get wanting Fields to run less. If the offense is moving chains and scoring points, call whatever you want. But if the offense is struggling, you have to adapt, and maybe get Fields on the run a bit. I don’t know Xs and Os well enough to be a coordinator, but play-calling theory and philosophy doesn’t take a genius. Run more of what works, and less of what doesn’t.
Hmmm. I agree that football isn't rocket science. And honestly, these teams pretty much run the same shit. Better defenses are what make a difference.
So, if they run offense, and none of it is working, then what? If they stack the box to stop the run (and him, effectively, from running), and Justin can't get the ball out for whatever reason, what do you do? Run more of what works and less of what doesn't. What if nothing works?
Honestly, on the first play of the game, I would run a fucking go. Just send everyone to the end zone and let him air it out. It won't work, but those safetys will see that the ball got aired out, and they might not be as quick to fly to the line.
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I can’t say I disagree with any of that. I’d love to see the Bears come out and throw a couple DEEP balls early in a game to loosen things up. Fields (especially at this point in his career) needs space to work. He and this offense aren’t where they need to be on technical/timing shit like screens. Half the linemen missed camp, and Claypool’s head seems to be in the clouds. A smart OC would maybe understand this.
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As Collinsworth said, every team should throw the ball deep at least once a quarter. While there were some down the field opportunities I’m sure Fields missed, we didn’t see one true “deep ball” that I recall. It was a very John Shoop game.
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Throw the ball deep, you not only loosen up the defense, you could get a PI if it falls incomplete. Inexcusable not to be taking shots in todays NFL. And inexcusable to only target DJ Moore twice.
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Well for one, you took a one game sample size and focused on that. A game in which Getsy did not fully utilize Fields’ greatest asset. His legs. When I say upside, I mean long-term. Not a single game.
Long term. Funny stuff, Tempo.
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Throw the ball deep, you not only loosen up the defense, you could get a PI if it falls incomplete. Inexcusable not to be taking shots in todays NFL. And inexcusable to only target DJ Moore twice.
This is hilarious. Did you even watch the game? You may have had it on, but did you watch it?
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Long term. Funny stuff, Tempo.
Explain.
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As Collinsworth said, every team should throw the ball deep at least once a quarter. While there were some down the field opportunities I’m sure Fields missed, we didn’t see one true “deep ball” that I recall. It was a very John Shoop game.
Getsy can press the X button and make the gutless QB throw the ball downfield.
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This is exactly what you were bitching about late in the game Sunday. Now, you want to insult me when I said basically the same thing.
Jesus Christ man
It's hilarious. He also says we should listen to Parkins and then Parkins takes a bus and runs it over Tempo's narrative on Getsy's playcalling. Impressive troll job.
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Getsy can press the X button and make the gutless QB throw the ball downfield.
The guy who took this hit.
https://youtu.be/H0t_9pZa1Co?si=lvY8W-EBjHOylliE
Then did this is against Clemson is “gutless.” Fuck you. Grow up.
https://youtu.be/FEiCfSGmsrc?si=eU63svOgVlTFFlwz
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and obviously a Justin Fields backer
You have ventured into Soviet and Chinese Commie Bot Farm territory on this one with all the misinformation you are spreading in support of JFC
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The guy who took this hit.
https://youtu.be/H0t_9pZa1Co?si=lvY8W-EBjHOylliE
Then did this is against Clemson is “gutless.” Fuck you. Grow up.
https://youtu.be/FEiCfSGmsrc?si=eU63svOgVlTFFlwz
Oh bullshit. You labeled this Topic Luke Gutless when the QB is too much of a pussy to throw the ball downfield to open receivers. Fields is gutless.
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You have ventured into Soviet and Chinese Commie Bot Farm territory on this one with all the misinformation you are spreading in support of JFC
Not engaging you and your clownery anymore today. Maybe try tomorrow.
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Not engaging you and your clownery anymore today. Maybe try tomorrow.
Maybe you will act more grown up tomorrow and be able to admit when you are wrong.
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You think the 49ers would make the trade straight up with us?!
Tempo…
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Tempo…
Yes?
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You want an answer to the question I’m guessing?
The answer is. IDK. I’m guessing Shanahan is pretty happy with Purdy. Would he jeopardize the continuity he has for the upside of Justin Fields? I can’t say without asking him and him answering honestly.
I’d be purely guessing. I’d be almost sure he thinks Fields has more natural ability.
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Yes?
You think the 49ers would make the trade straight up with us?!
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And Shanahan has the confidence/arrogance to think he could get the most out of someone. So the answer is 🤷🏻♂️
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You think the 49ers would make the trade straight up with us?!
Truthfully, I think that’s a trade both teams could end up regretting.
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Truthfully, I think that’s a trade both teams could end up regretting.
Because the Bear would regret not making the trade sooner?
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It’s certainly possible that I’m wrong, but I’m fairly confident that Flus and Getsy haven’t said to Justin, “Hey, just rip it and we’ll live with it.” I’m reasonably confident they’ve coached some of the aggression out of his passing.
Not many coaches want to absorb the bumps and bruises that go with aggressively trying to turn around a franchise. I’ll bet if Daboll or Mike McDaniel were here we’d see a more aggressive passing game. We’ve got a Lovie Smith/Rod Marinelli disciple running the show here. He wants close:competitive games they can maybe pull out in the last 3 minutes. I’m not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing some coaches have had success with that, but I’m not sure it’s the best marriage with Justin Fields.
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https://x.com/tjenkinselite/status/1701701429889818705?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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(https://i.postimg.cc/RZSnWk59/IMG-4856.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yPQS1p1)
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This is to show that Tim Jenkins isn’t just piling on Gutless, I mean Getsy to appease Score listeners.
He points out plenty of things Justin is doing wrong, but also acknowledges that the infrastructure around him isn’t up to par. i.e. plenty of blame to go around
(https://i.postimg.cc/nhrhbpfs/IMG-4857.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXr2LrCY)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/c4988Dsn/IMG-4858.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJdbGfSz)screencast (https://postimages.org/app)
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Easy fix.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGwwSx4g/IMG-4860.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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If you can watch this and come away thinking that Getsy is not in way over his head, you are a blind believer. After watching this, I’m not hopeful this will get much better at any point this year. Plenty of legit criticism of Fields as well. I knew things were bad all the way around, this shows it’s MUCH worse than I even thought. O’Sullivan spends half the video clowning the concepts, execution, and effort. Well worth the watch. Don’t watch if you are feeling at all suicidal.
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-news/watch-justin-fields-bears-torn-apart-in-youtube-film-breakdown/506512/
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If you can watch this and come away thinking that Getsy is not in way over his head, you are a blind believer. After watching this, I’m not hopeful this will get much better at any point this year. Plenty of legit criticism of Fields as well. I knew things were bad all the way around, this shows it’s MUCH worse than I even thought. O’Sullivan spends half the video clowning the concepts, execution, and effort. Well worth the watch. Don’t watch if you are feeling at all suicidal.
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-news/watch-justin-fields-bears-torn-apart-in-youtube-film-breakdown/506512/
"By the end, you'll be questioning your fandom."
A 1 hour video ? Ain't doing it. I watched the game.
Will you be needing wellness checks ?
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"By the end, you'll be questioning your fandom."
A 1 hour video ? Ain't doing it. I watched the game.
Will you be needing wellness checks ?
I always look forward to your worthless contributions.
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"It'll make you feel bad Luke Getsy is the offensive coordinator. It'll make you feel despair about the offensive line. It'll make you feel nervous about Justin Fields' development. By the end, you'll be questioning your fandom."
It's true, this video does all those things...
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He's not AOTC. ThePATheyMan at the door already told you that.
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"By the end, you'll be questioning your fandom."
A 1 hour video ? Ain't doing it. I watched the game.
Will you be needing wellness checks ?
Here’s a short cut for you. “This is the shit that gets people fired.”
https://x.com/theqbschool/status/1701755070415602139?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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“What is 85 doing?” 😂
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So yesterday I went for a walk around the neighborhood (that’s when I fired off multiple posts). I have conceded that Fields holds the ball too long. It’s a bit worse than I thought. Having said that, everything else is quite a bit worse than I thought, and I already thought it was pretty bad.
It may surprise you guys to hear this, but I am disappointed that the Bears didn’t bring in someone to keep Justin’s feet warm. I would have been all for trading for Trey Lance.
I am also convinced that they have coached some of the aggressiveness out of his game. If they haven’t, then here’s what they should do. Go to him and say “Let it rip, we’ll live with it.” And if he doesn’t let it rip, you bench him and say “We’ll put you back in when you’re ready to start throwing it.” Simple fucking fix IMO.
I know some people don’t want to hear this, but winning should be of co-importance to developing Fields this year. What did the Colts do with Manning when they were rebuilding? They let him throw the fuck out of it, and lived with the mistakes. Obviously, he was Peyton Manning, so he was bound to be good. But I firmly believe it accelerated his learning curve. Take the fucking training wheels off. We need to know now. Unfortunately, I don’t think this is the coaching staff to coach Justin up. Not from what I’m seeing so far.
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Kyler Gordon not practicing, and being reported that Eberflus met with Chase Claypool and hasn’t ruled out Claypool being inactive this Sunday. All options are on the table.
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So yesterday I went for a walk around the neighborhood (that’s when I fired off multiple posts). I have conceded that Fields holds the ball too long. It’s a bit worse than I thought. Having said that, everything else is quite a bit worse than I thought, and I already thought it was pretty bad.
It may surprise you guys to hear this, but I am disappointed that the Bears didn’t bring in someone to keep Justin’s feet warm. I would have been all for trading for Trey Lance.
I am also convinced that they have coached some of the aggressiveness out of his game. If they haven’t, then here’s what they should do. Go to him and say “Let it rip, we’ll live with it.” And if he doesn’t let it rip, you bench him and say “We’ll put you back in when you’re ready to start throwing it.” Simple fucking fix IMO.
I know some people don’t want to hear this, but winning should be of co-importance to developing Fields this year. What did the Colts do with Manning when they were rebuilding? They let him throw the fuck out of it, and lived with the mistakes. Obviously, he was Peyton Manning, so he was bound to be good. But I firmly believe it accelerated his learning curve. Take the fucking training wheels off. We need to know now. Unfortunately, I don’t think this is the coaching staff to coach Justin up. Not from what I’m seeing so far.
I pretty much agree with everything said here. +1
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I pretty much agree with everything said here. +1
Thanks. Did you watch the video? It’s fucking jarring. Incompetent schemes and multiple players on each play look to be wandering around almost aimlessly. O’Sullivan eviscerated Davis, Kmet, and Claypool.
And Getsy. But did so without naming names.
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Thanks. Did you watch the video? It’s fucking jarring. Incompetent schemes and multiple players on each play look to be wandering around almost aimlessly. O’Sullivan eviscerated Davis, Kmet, and Claypool.
No I didn’t watch. Kinda skimmed through it and saw most of it or thought that when watching the game.
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Here’s a short cut for you. “This is the shit that gets people fired.”
https://x.com/theqbschool/status/1701755070415602139?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
It would be interesting to find out what the play was supposed to look like. Fields had a nice pocket but nobody ran a pattern to fit the pocket.
Was the play completely miscommunicated in the huddle ?
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It would be interesting to find out what the play was supposed to look like. Fields had a nice pocket but nobody ran a pattern to fit the pocket.
Was the play completely miscommunicated in the huddle ?
There were about 5 plays like that in that video.
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Adam Hogue reporting that he’s already hearing rumblings about dissatisfaction at Halas Hall about play-calling and game planning. Didn’t say if that’s players, GM or what. Players I’m assuming.
Although can’t imagine Poles is happy, either.
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Baldinger also blasting the call from the 4 yard line.
https://x.com/baldynfl/status/1701769259750134263?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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So which part about the Bears being a trash organization was I wrong about?
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So which part about the Bears being a trash organization was I wrong about?
Lol
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Under Center Podcast warns Flus not to let Getsy sink him. Lol
https://youtu.be/lO1iyzXpr34?si=avXd5jHbb6GFqnaD
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So which part about the Bears being a trash organization was I wrong about?
Looks like you were ahead of the curve while Tempo had crashed behind the curve, ala MiniDitka's artist rendition, on this one.
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It’s not like I hate the Bears—I really wish they were good. It’s embarrassing af living in a new area and having to admit I’m a Bears fan. I just have no emotion to invest in a franchise that consistently makes such godawful decisions. At some point you have to look at the common denominator and realize nothing is going to change for the better until the actual root problems are addressed.
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Looks like you were ahead of the curve while Tempo had crashed behind the curve, ala MiniDitka's artist rendition, on this one.
You’d have made a terrible wartime officer.
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It’s not like I hate the Bears—I really wish they were good. It’s embarrassing af living in a new area and having to admit I’m a Bears fan. I just have no emotion to invest in a franchise that consistently makes such godawful decisions. At some point you have to look at the common denominator and realize nothing is going to change for the better until the actual root problems are addressed.
One full game into the rebuild and it’s a DISASTER! You are so prescient.
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One full game into the rebuild and it’s a DISASTER! You are so prescient.
And what, besides blind allegiance, is giving you any hope whatsoever that this clown show is going to turn itself around?
It isn’t just a talent and personnel issue. It looks exactly like the same old crappy coaching and development we have grown so accustomed to seeing.
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And what, besides blind allegiance, is giving you any hope whatsoever that this clown show is going to turn itself around?
It isn’t just a talent and personnel issue. It looks exactly like the same old crappy coaching and development we have grown so accustomed to seeing.
Bye and large I like the approach Poles has taken. He’s had some hits and had some what look to be bad misses thus far. Nate Davis, Chase Claypool, Velus Jones, and Lucas Patrick for example.
I think Flus is a probably a good coach (but probably had a bad preseason plan). He’s shown some willingness to learn up to this point. Something Nagy never showed. I don’t know if he and Getsy are the right coaches to get Fields to where he needs to be. For the most part I’ve not been a fan of Getsy. Yes, he improvised and got the offense going last year, but hasn’t shown he can do it without a dynamically athletic quarterback using his legs. After watching that tape last night what confidence I did have him which wasn’t a ton, is shot.
I hate to say game 2 is do or die, but if they look bad, this could go off the rails Marc Trestman style.
I still think the general trend with the franchise is upward, but it definitely took a shot to the gut Sunday.
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Where Poles possibly fucked up the most was choosing a defensive hustle coach to groom his quarterback. I like Flus, but I’d rather have Jim Caldwell right now.
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Now if they bite the bullet on Getsy they are stuck either having to change systems or finding someone very well schooled in the system, which limits your choices and talent pool.
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Looks like you were ahead of the curve while Tempo had crashed behind the curve, ala MiniDitka's artist rendition, on this one.
We are one game into the rebuild and they are not rebuilt! Trash!
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You’d have made a terrible wartime officer.
“We got ambushed! We took casualties! Men died! It was a disaster! This is hopeless! We should just surrender!” - General PAMan
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I think it’s concerning that they came out at home against a rival that’s replacing one of the GOATs and completely laid an egg. And looked like uncoached hot garbage doing so.
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I think it’s concerning that they came out at home against a rival that’s replacing one of the GOATs and completely laid an egg. And looked like uncoached hot garbage doing so.
Oh, it raises some red flags for sure. I think the #1 thing we learned is probably that Getsy is overmatched. Secondly, I don’t know if Flus was told to run a country club training camp, but they clearly didn’t make the most of it.
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My hope is what happened is quickly correctable and they come out and knock off Tampa on the road. If they take another bad loss we’ll know we have a pretty serious problem. Again, they are one game into the rebuild. We should learn a lot in the next month.
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I’ll wait until this year to start making strong judgments. I’m not going to come to strong conclusions during, and on the back of one season in which they purposely stripped the roster down and led the league by a wide margin in dead cap space.
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Oh, it raises some red flags for sure. I think the #1 thing we learned is probably that Getsy is overmatched. Secondly, I don’t know if Flus was told to run a country club training camp, but they clearly didn’t make the most of it.
But that raises even more red flags. Who hired Getsy who is so clearly overmatched? Who told Flus to run a country club training camp and completely ineffectual preseason slate? The entire organization just exudes incompetence.
I get that a true fan has to have hope and try to find some “green shoots” so to speak. But man look at what the Packers do year after year (in a small market) compared to the Bears. It’s absolutely embarrassing. They’re all playing by the same rules, but somehow the Bears manage to fuck it all up decade after decade.
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But that raises even more red flags. Who hired Getsy who is so clearly overmatched? Who told Flus to run a country club training camp and completely ineffectual preseason slate? The entire organization just exudes incompetence.
I get that a true fan has to have hope and try to find some “green shoots” so to speak. But man look at what the Packers do year after year (in a small market) compared to the Bears. It’s absolutely embarrassing. They’re all playing by the same rules, but somehow the Bears manage to fuck it all up decade after decade.
Ok, ok. It’s easy to score points when bagging on the Bears. I used to to do it on Illini athletics. But this is a new regime. I know, I know “McCaskeys…” I think with each leadership change the McCaskeys become less and less involved. It’s possible their frugalness made them go with a rookie coach, and rookie OCs. But I’d be speculating. I don’t know that.
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Again, I like Poles’ vision. He’s stepped on a few landmines so far, but literally every GM has misses. The rebuild is not going perfectly by any means, but I do think the approach is solid. He still has a lot of FA money and draft capital. My main concern at this point is will the coaching staff unravel, because they’ve had a wretched few weeks.
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As far as the misses, the bright side is that none of the misses are players they’ve super heavily invested in. If Tremaine Edmonds busts, that’s a problem. Nate Davis and Lucas Patrick are complimentary players, not necessarily building blocks.
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Davis and Patrick are OL. I don't see how they are "complimentary" players.
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Davis and Patrick are OL. I don't see how they are "complimentary" players.
None of them are paid to be top 5 players at their position. Or even top 10. They are expected to be useful, but aren’t difference makers. And weren’t signed to be. They were brought in to be competent.
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Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp. Those are championship “building blocks.”
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Well, if that is how you define things, there is literally no one on this team who are "championship building blocks." Don't tell me DJ Moore is because he can be wide open from Soldier Field to Indiana and the QB won't throw the ball to him.
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Well, if that is how you define things, there is literally no one on this team who are "championship building blocks."
And yet you picked them to win the Super Bowl…
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Well, if that is how you define things, there is literally no one on this team who are "championship building blocks."
The world needs ditch diggers, too.
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Moore and Edmonds are championship caliber players.
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Moore and Edmonds are championship caliber players.
You forget that the Bears are where WRs careers go to die.
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You forget that the Bears are where WRs careers go to die.
Correct, Moose.
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Today Luke Getsy faces the media. I hope they ask him all the tough questions.
Heard multiple national voices this morning referencing how it looks like the Bears’ OC is overmatched, so apparently that’s more than just chatter amongst Bears die hards. Oy vey…
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Question #1. Are they running the plays you're calling and running them the way they are designed ? Yes or no.
Question #2. Do you discuss the game plan with Eberlose during game prep or are you allowed to call whatever your heart desires ? Yes or no.
Question #3. See question #1.
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It’s amazing what happens when you play with a bunch of pros against college kids every week.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/bwsKZNHQ/IMG-4871.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wdc9KVy3)
Shouldn't that disprove that all Gutless is calling for is screen passes around the line?
Lawrence, Jones and Zack Wilson played last weekend. Lance?
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Question #1. Are they running the plays you're calling and running them the way they are designed ? Yes or no.
Question #2. Do you discuss the game plan with Eberlose during game prep or are you allowed to call whatever your heart desires ? Yes or no.
Question #3. See question #1.
4) Was short passing the bulk of the game plan? (Apparently it was, as multiple players said so).
5) Are you coaching/asking Justin to take more checkdowns?
6) What is this offenses’ identity?
7) See question 1
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It’s amazing what happens when you play with a bunch of pros against college kids every week.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNHBdStD/IMG-4872.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I was certain you guys would take the bait. What happened? I’d seriously ask Getsy.
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Shouldn't that disprove that all Gutless is calling for is screen passes around the line?
Lawrence, Jones and Zack Wilson played last weekend. Lance?
You read the caption, right?
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Little did I know I’d get two bites in like a minute and a half.
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Shouldn't that disprove that all Gutless is calling for is screen passes around the line?
Lawrence, Jones and Zack Wilson played last weekend. Lance?
You clearly misread the post.
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4) Was short passing the bulk of the game plan? (Apparently it was, as multiple players said so).
5) Are you coaching/asking Justin to take more checkdowns?
6) What is this offenses’ identity?
7) See question 1
Makes no diff if it was the bulk. You know full well that trying to go downfield was also in the game plan.
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You read the caption, right?
His passes allegedly travel the most over the line of scrimmage compared to the people in his draft class. That is what Average Depth is, right?
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Makes no diff if it was the bulk. You know full well that trying to go downfield was also in the game plan.
I don’t think it was. Apparently GB was trying to take away Moore and the deep pass, and the Bears reacted to that. I think there’s a good chance Fields was being told to checkdown. I guess in the hopes they’d move the safeties up.
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Multiple players have said the screen/short game was the game plan.
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His passes allegedly travel the most over the line of scrimmage compared to the people in his draft class. That is what Average Depth is, right?
It’s a pre-draft caption. 2021 Notice he’s in a Buckeyes uniform.
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I don’t think it was. Apparently GB was trying to take away Moore and the deep pass, and the Bears reacted to that. I think there’s a good chance Fields was being told to checkdown. I guess in the hopes they’d move the safeties up.
More fucking excuses. Eberlose said, which was broadcast on the Parkins show, that was not the case. Fields also said yesterday that he was being too conservative.
You, like many, are invested in people thinking he doesn't suck cock as a passing QB. Sorry, right now he does.
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He needs to get better for sure.
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It’s a pre-draft caption. 2021 Notice he’s in a Buckeyes uniform.
That's funny. Good one.
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I don’t think it was. Apparently GB was trying to take away Moore and the deep pass, and the Bears reacted to that. I think there’s a good chance Fields was being told to checkdown. I guess in the hopes they’d move the safeties up.
You're going with they had nothing in the playbook to go downfield ?
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Multiple players have said the screen/short game was the game plan.
Physicists express growing concern that rapid expansion of the The Justin Fields is Actually an NFL Passing QB narrative machine could cause universe to implode.
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Of course Fields is going to accept responsibility because he’s a grown ass man. And nowhere did I say he’s blameless. In fact, I’ve said the opposite numerous times.
And of course Flus isn’t going to sit there and tell people they’re coaching the aggressiveness out of him.
What I find insulting is you think Fields is a coward, and that couldn’t be further from the truth IMO. There is no evidence whatsoever he is a coward.
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Physicists express growing concern that rapid expansion of the The Justin Fields is Actually an NFL Passing QB narrative machine could cause universe to implode.
Find me a time or post where I said Fields doesn’t need to get better as a passer. I’ll wait…
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Of course Fields is going to accept responsibility because he’s a grown ass man. And nowhere did I say he’s blameless. In fact, I’ve said the opposite numerous times.
And of course Flus isn’t going to sit there and tell people they’re coaching the aggressiveness out of him.
What I find insulting is you think Fields is a coward, and that couldn’t be further from the truth IMO. There is no evidence whatsoever he is a coward.
Not throwing the ball down field to open guys is QB Cowardice
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Find me a time or post where I said Fields doesn’t need to get better as passer. I’ll wait…
Plenty with you claiming he is a "budding superstar".... LOL!
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Of course Fields is going to accept responsibility because he’s a grown ass man. And nowhere did I say he’s blameless. In fact, I’ve said the opposite numerous times.
And of course Flus isn’t going to sit there and tell people they’re coaching the aggressiveness out of him.
What I find insulting is you think Fields is a coward, and that couldn’t be further from the truth IMO. There is no evidence whatsoever he is a coward.
What is insulting is your narrative that Fields Realists lack any knowledge about football and that it is all a narrative.
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You're going with they had nothing in the playbook to go downfield ?
Of course it’s in the playbook. I’m just not convinced the emphasis was to drive the ball downfield. How hard would it be for Flus or Getsy to say “drive the damn ball downfield?” By all accounts, Justin is doing everything he’s told.
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You're going with they had nothing in the playbook to go downfield ?
Despite asking us to listen to the Parkins show where they completely dispelled that narrative, yes, he is.
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Of course it’s in the playbook. I’m just not convinced the emphasis was to drive the ball downfield. How hard would it be for Flus or Getsy to say “drive the damn ball downfield?” By all accounts, Justin is doing everything he’s told.
LOL. This is a supreme troll job.
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What is insulting is your narrative that Fields Realists lack any knowledge about football and that it is all a narrative.
I just think it’s hard to be consistent at quarterback when no one else around you is. And that includes the coaches.
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Despite asking us to listen to the Parkins show where they completely dispelled that narrative, yes, he is.
I can’t help it your listening skills are poor.
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I mean, I’ve tried to tell you they weren’t making a serious effort at winning last year which is obvious when you look at how the team was built and the enormous dead cap space. But you still don’t get it.
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LOL. This is a supreme troll job.
Or attempting to.
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Of course it’s in the playbook. I’m just not convinced the emphasis was to drive the ball downfield. How hard would it be for Flus or Getsy to say “drive the damn ball downfield?” By all accounts, Justin is doing everything he’s told.
And your Chicago Bears have 2nd and goal on the Green Bay 4 yard line.
Here's the snap and Fields .........
wtf, omg. :D
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And your Chicago Bears have 2nd and goal on the Green Bay 4 yard line.
Here's the snap and Fields .........
wtf, omg. :D
Did you watch the review of the play? I saw more than one former NFLer say they couldn’t even figure out what the play was attempting to do (design wise).
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It’s amazing what happens when you play with a bunch of pros against college kids every week.
I look forward to your rebuttal.
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I look forward to your rebuttal.
I said what I said
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I can’t help it your listening skills are poor.
Apparently you comprehend what you want to comprehend. JT O'Sullivan, Eberlose, Parko, Grote, even FIELDS, acknowledged there were throws to be made downfield that Fields refused to pull the trigger on.
Also read there was footage out there with DJ Moore hanging his head after running another fruitless route where he was open but Tempo's Chosen Wingback failed to throw the ball, again.
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I mean, I’ve tried to tell you they weren’t making a serious effort at winning last year which is obvious when you look at how the team was built and the enormous dead cap space. But you still don’t get it.
We get it. But there is not believing you are going to win and at least putting competent systems in place, playing disciplined ball, hustling, looking like you know what you are doing as a coaching staff but just not having the horses. Have not seen that in the last 8 home losses or in giving up over 30 points a game in the last, what, 12 games?
Then there is the offseason. Eberlose wants to play a Bend But Get Turnovers/Sacks D. Well, where are the fucking d lineman to make that happen? Oh, they still do not have any (but they spent money on inside linebackers after claiming they are valueless when dealing with Roquan?).
Excuse last year for the Wingback was that he did not have playmakers. Now the excuse is he has no line. Well, instead of getting O linemen they traded for 2 WRs. Brilliant!
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I just think it’s hard to be consistent at quarterback when no one else around you is. And that includes the coaches.
Fields had opportunities to air it out, he just didn't throw it. And that's the problem. He won't throw it unless receivers are "college open." But continue with your narrative that he cannot be successful because he allegedly has no one else around him.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/9/13/23871256/bears-quarterback-justin-fields-i-was-too-conservative-packers-loss-deep-shot-dj-moore-sunday-nfl
Justin Fields needs to let it fly.
He knows it and his coaches do, too. That’s what the Bears quarterback, head coach Matt Eberflus and offensive coordinator Luke Getsy talked about when they debriefed after Sunday’s 38-20 shellacking by the rival Packers.
“I felt like I was a little bit too conservative at times during the game,” Fields said before Wednesday’s practice.
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Fields wasn’t being critical of Getsy’s play-calling; rather, he was upset about his own decision-making. Getsy called screens, sure, but Fields was the one who missed opportunities to throw deep with receivers open. He instead checked down — running backs caught 11 of his 24 passes — or ran it himself.
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• No one threw less often into tight coverage — defined as having a defender within one yard of the receiver — than Fields. His aggressiveness rate was an NFL-low 2.7%.
• Only one player, the Falcons’ Desmond Ridder, threw shorter passes. Fields’ 3.3 intended air yards — the vertical distance traveled from the line of scrimmage on both completions and incompletions — was the second shortest in the NFL.
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The Bears can call deep shots, but Fields has to make the decision to throw it.
“When you’re taking your shot down the field on a 50-50 ball, you’ve gotta let it ride,” Eberflus said. “If the [cornerback] is really high on top of the [receiver], which I think was the case a couple times, then it’s just the discernment of the quarterback. If he’s real high on him, then you just go ahead and go to your next read.
“But we certainly have some guys that can get some 50-50 balls. If you feel good about where the location is of the corner, we’re gonna go send it up.”
Asked whether that was a point of emphasis for Fields this week, Eberflus said his staff preaches it every week.
“That’s just all part of the read,” he said. “When we’re talking about taking shots down the field, that’s just how you read it. We’re always coaching that.”
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I said what I said
He threw the ball downfield year one and two. What happened last week?
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/9/13/23871256/bears-quarterback-justin-fields-i-was-too-conservative-packers-loss-deep-shot-dj-moore-sunday-nfl
Justin Fields needs to let it fly.
He knows it and his coaches do, too. That’s what the Bears quarterback, head coach Matt Eberflus and offensive coordinator Luke Getsy talked about when they debriefed after Sunday’s 38-20 shellacking by the rival Packers.
“I felt like I was a little bit too conservative at times during the game,” Fields said before Wednesday’s practice.
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Fields wasn’t being critical of Getsy’s play-calling; rather, he was upset about his own decision-making. Getsy called screens, sure, but Fields was the one who missed opportunities to throw deep with receivers open. He instead checked down — running backs caught 11 of his 24 passes — or ran it himself.
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• No one threw less often into tight coverage — defined as having a defender within one yard of the receiver — than Fields. His aggressiveness rate was an NFL-low 2.7%.
• Only one player, the Falcons’ Desmond Ridder, threw shorter passes. Fields’ 3.3 intended air yards — the vertical distance traveled from the line of scrimmage on both completions and incompletions — was the second shortest in the NFL.
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The Bears can call deep shots, but Fields has to make the decision to throw it.
“When you’re taking your shot down the field on a 50-50 ball, you’ve gotta let it ride,” Eberflus said. “If the [cornerback] is really high on top of the [receiver], which I think was the case a couple times, then it’s just the discernment of the quarterback. If he’s real high on him, then you just go ahead and go to your next read.
“But we certainly have some guys that can get some 50-50 balls. If you feel good about where the location is of the corner, we’re gonna go send it up.”
Asked whether that was a point of emphasis for Fields this week, Eberflus said his staff preaches it every week.
“That’s just all part of the read,” he said. “When we’re talking about taking shots down the field, that’s just how you read it. We’re always coaching that.”
Cool. Does the article talk about Getsy’s schemes?
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More proof that you should always trust content from ThePAMan. Do not trust apologists like Tempo and Parkins. They let their narratives get in the way of objectivity.
Let's hope Fields uses this criticism constructively and start throwing the ball downfield this week.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/9/13/23871256/bears-quarterback-justin-fields-i-was-too-conservative-packers-loss-deep-shot-dj-moore-sunday-nfl
Justin Fields needs to let it fly.
He knows it and his coaches do, too. That’s what the Bears quarterback, head coach Matt Eberflus and offensive coordinator Luke Getsy talked about when they debriefed after Sunday’s 38-20 shellacking by the rival Packers.
“I felt like I was a little bit too conservative at times during the game,” Fields said before Wednesday’s practice.
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Fields wasn’t being critical of Getsy’s play-calling; rather, he was upset about his own decision-making. Getsy called screens, sure, but Fields was the one who missed opportunities to throw deep with receivers open. He instead checked down — running backs caught 11 of his 24 passes — or ran it himself.
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• No one threw less often into tight coverage — defined as having a defender within one yard of the receiver — than Fields. His aggressiveness rate was an NFL-low 2.7%.
• Only one player, the Falcons’ Desmond Ridder, threw shorter passes. Fields’ 3.3 intended air yards — the vertical distance traveled from the line of scrimmage on both completions and incompletions — was the second shortest in the NFL.
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The Bears can call deep shots, but Fields has to make the decision to throw it.
“When you’re taking your shot down the field on a 50-50 ball, you’ve gotta let it ride,” Eberflus said. “If the [cornerback] is really high on top of the [receiver], which I think was the case a couple times, then it’s just the discernment of the quarterback. If he’s real high on him, then you just go ahead and go to your next read.
“But we certainly have some guys that can get some 50-50 balls. If you feel good about where the location is of the corner, we’re gonna go send it up.”
Asked whether that was a point of emphasis for Fields this week, Eberflus said his staff preaches it every week.
“That’s just all part of the read,” he said. “When we’re talking about taking shots down the field, that’s just how you read it. We’re always coaching that.”
POTD.
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Cool. Does the article talk about Getsy’s schemes?
This has to be a bit as the shitty passing QB admitted to being a coward who refuses to throw downfield.
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More proof that you should always trust content from ThePAMan. Do not trust apologists like Tempo and Parkins. They let their narratives get in the way of objectivity.
Let's hope Fields uses this criticism constructively and start throwing the ball downfield this week.
It’s pretty easy to be right when you literally take every stance in the book.
Eberlose sucks! Fields sucks! Getsy sucks! Defense sucks! Poles sucks! Bears suck! 13-4 Super Bowl! Fields is not doing what Flus and Getsy tell him to do! Trust Eberflus, he’s telling the truth! Kulture!
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This has to be a bit as the shitty passing QB admitted to being a coward who refuses to throw downfield.
I’m just looking to spread the blame equally. Fields can’t pass up that many throws. Also, his support structure needs to be better.
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This has to be a bit as the shitty passing QB admitted to being a coward who refuses to throw downfield.
Fields is anything but a coward, and I firmly believe he’d take the bullets to protect the staff. I’d expect him to.
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Talk about schizophrenic.
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You are literally all over the map in your takes.
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But Fields is the entire problem!
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-news/ex-nfl-quarterback-says-the-bears-offense-looks-incompetent/506722/
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It’s the quarterback (and only the quaterback) stupid!
[Luke Getsy's offensive scheme looked rudimentary. There was an abundance of screen-plays, failed and confusing RPOs and ineffective pass protections. The whole thing was a mess. And it proved itself in the final score.]
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It’s pretty easy to be right when you literally take every stance in the book.
Eberlose sucks! Fields sucks! Getsy sucks! Defense sucks! Poles sucks! Bears suck! 13-4 Super Bowl! Fields is not doing what Flus and Getsy tell him to do! Trust Eberflus, he’s telling the truth! Kulture!
That's far from every stance in book.
This team should be far better than it is, even with the personnel it has. The QB is being put into a position to make throws downfield and he refuses to do so, making matters worse across the board. D on the field more because he refuses to throw for 1st downs. He has sucked ass.
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It’s the quarterback (and only the quaterback) stupid!
[Luke Getsy's offensive scheme looked rudimentary. There was an abundance of screen-plays, failed and confusing RPOs and ineffective pass protections. The whole thing was a mess. And it proved itself in the final score.]
Everyone acknowledges the QB is the most important position in the field.
There were also plenty of plays where guys were open downfield and he would not make the throw. Getsy may think he has no choice but to call screens so the dipstick will actually throw the ball. Getsy is ultimately at fault since he has not adequately coached Fields up. Maybe he should put a playbook of downfield passes in Fields' Bible.
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I’m just looking to spread the blame equally. Fields can’t pass up that many throws. Also, his support structure needs to be better.
Maybe his pastor can tell him to throw the ball downfield more.
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That's far from every stance in book.
It covers most of them. You scream a lot…then just take the lazy narrative that everything is Fields’ fault (ESB dropped the perfectly thrown ball on 4th down because he didn’t expect it to hit him in the hands).
And for the 8,568th time, Fields has plenty to improve at.
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Maybe his pastor can tell him to throw the ball downfield more.
Should I call Fox News to share your war on Christians take?
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This team should be far better than it is, even with the personnel it has.
1) I’m not totally sold on that.
2) Why?
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Getsy is ultimately at fault since he has not adequately coached Fields up.
Wait, what? I should print this and frame it. Can you repeat it once in a while just to assure me you’re not insane?
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It covers most of them. You scream a lot…then just take the lazy narrative that everything is Fields’ fault (ESB dropped the perfectly thrown ball on 4th down because he didn’t expect it to hit him in the hands).
And for the 8,568th time, Fields has plenty to improve at.
Including throwing the ball downfield to guys that are somehow open since only screens are called by Getsy.
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PAMan going full on war on Christianity today.
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Including throwing the ball downfield to guys that are somehow open since only screens are called by Getsy.
Never said “only.” Too many, and it puts them behind the chains. Also, not enough runs. When shit isn’t working, go back to what does.
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Wait, what? I should print this and frame it. Can you repeat it once in a while just to assure me you’re not insane?
The QB is well versed in The Scripture. Maybe he would be better versed in downfield passing plays if he read them when trying to study The Scripture?
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PAMan going full on war on Christianity today.
It is the start of the Jewish New Year Friday night.
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Should I call Fox News to share your war on Christians take?
Fields needs a better support system per you. Just spreading the blame around to include his pastor.
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Fields needs a better support system per you. Just spreading the blame around to include his pastor.
No, the coaches and players around him (and of course himself) should be sufficient.
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Let’s try this exercise. Say it with me PAMan: “It’s all a fuckin’ mess.”
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No, the coaches and players around him (and of course himself) should be sufficient.
I think his pastor told him Jesus would check down all the time too.
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Let’s try this exercise. Say it with me PAMan: “It’s all a fuckin’ mess.”
Oh, it is all a fucking mess. That is patently obvious since the start of last year.
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Fields can’t do anything right!
https://x.com/olin_kreutz/status/1701684124975563243?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Fields can’t do anything right!
https://x.com/olin_kreutz/status/1701684124975563243?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Said it was a nice pass at the time.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/9/14/23874146/luke-getsy-on-bears-offense-we-left-a-lot-out-there
“There’s a lot of things that go into it,” Getsy said. “We definitely are calling plays for DJ and he knows that and he wasn’t frustrated by any of that. And sometimes it’s just the way the coverage dictates to where the quarterback has to go with the football, too.”
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The Bears threw few passes downfield — Fields’ 3.3 average in air yards per pass was the second-lowest in the NFL in Week 1.
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“I think he’s in a good place,” Getsy said. “He’s got a really good understanding of what’s going on around him. He’s getting better and better at that.
“But you’re still gonna have some times where you look back and say, ‘Dang, I wish I would have done this or that. We’re gonna have those as we continue to grow. That’s part of his youth and his experience we’re getting. There was a ton of evidence on film that that’s there. We just have to get it more consistently.”
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https://omny.fm/shows/wscr-0002/sounds-like-bears-oc-luke-getsy-is-deflecting-blam
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https://omny.fm/shows/wscr-0002/sounds-like-bears-oc-luke-getsy-is-deflecting-blam
I could not take listening to the whole thing once Bernstein started yelling about "fantasy plays."
Guys were open. Getsy had some plays that worked that the shitty passing QB refused to execute.
They were right the coaches to blame for the complete lack of effort, the failure for them to execute, and the failure to coach up the shitty passing QB.
Maybe they had a conservative game plan because of the shitty passing QB? Getsy is never going to admit that publicly.
I need to shower after listening to that hypocritical POS scumbag Bernstein.
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Lol
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Funny.
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“I feel like we did some good things.” - Luke Getsy 9/14/23
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“I feel like we did some good things.” - Luke Getsy 9/14/23
Have to concede that he schemed some plays to get players open downfield.
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Have to concede that he schemed some plays to get players open downfield.
Lol
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So some of the plays ran were legitimate NFL plays? That’s excellent news.
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So some of the plays ran were legitimate NFL plays? That’s excellent news.
Maybe the rest were to coddle the QB who hasn't been an NFL passer?
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Some chatter about Fields’ drops being too slow. I’d be interested to hear the conclusions of knowledgeable people. I think this is a bit above our pay grade to analyze. I’d be curious to hear what Getsy has to say. I scoured Twitter after his media day and didn’t find as much interesting stuff as I thought/hoped I might.
https://x.com/robertkschmitz/status/1703237301424263604?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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It just fully dawned on me that Nathaniel Hackett was exposed as an idiot last year, and we got his underling to run our offense. Aaron Rodgers out there getting people way over promoted.
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Save the children!
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Hopefully a child isn't punted off a bridge every time Fields holds the ball too long and takes a sack.
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Aaron Rodgers’ towel boy Luke Getsy has no clue what he is doing. You arguably have the greatest running QB in NFL history, and you refuse to use that as a weapon when your offense is struggling. Justin Fields cannot go 4 carries for 3 yards in a 10 point loss. If he goes 11 for 10 yards, ok, at least you tried.
Calling back to back RB screens from your 6 yard line (when you’ve clearly fallen in love with the play) isn’t fooling a veteran defense like Tampa. Aaron Rodgers’ towel boy Luke Getsy should be arrested and brought to The Hague to stand trial for his crimes against humanity. That’s not to absolve Justin Fields from blame, he needs to get better. But just about everyone not named DJ Moore is failing him right now.
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Aaron Rodgers’ towel boy Luke Getsy has no clue what he is doing. You arguably have the greatest running QB in NFL history, and you refuse to use that as a weapon when your offense is struggling. Justin Fields cannot go 4 carries for 3 yards in a 10 point loss. If he goes 11 for 10 yards, ok, at least you tried.
Calling back to back RB screens from your 6 yard line (when you’ve clearly fallen in love with the play) isn’t fooling a veteran defense like Tampa. Aaron Rodgers’ towel boy Luke Getsy should be arrested and brought to The Hague to stand trial for his crimes against humanity. That’s not to absolve Justin Fields from blame, he needs to get better. But just about everyone not named DJ Moore is failing him right now.
Unfortunately that’s the reality of a salary cap world. If your investments go bad, you have to rip the band aid off and start over. Trying to salvage something out of Pace’s roster would have been pure idiocy.
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Was one of those posts supposed to be a mult responding to you?
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/9/18/23879232/bears-coach-matt-eberflus-screen-pass-was-not-wrong-call-justin-fields-shaq-barrett-interception-nfl
The Bears were right to attempt a screen pass from their own 6-yard line, based on the look the Buccaneers’ defense showed them before the snap, coach Matt Eberflus said Monday.
Quarterback Justin Fields has the authority to change the play if he deems it necessary, but there was nothing to suggest it wouldn’t work, Eberflus said — even if the Bucs said later they presumed a screen was coming.
“That’s a great look for that particular play,” he said Monday. “They’re in shell defense, the linebackers are all back. There’s no one really taking the linebacker in that situation, he’s a zone covered guy. The pre-snap in terms of what Justin was doing was A-1. There’s nothing wrong in there.”
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Down three with about two minutes to play, Fields threw an interception to outside linebacker Shaq Barrett, who felt a screen was coming by the way he was blocked, pirouetted and picked off a pass. He returned it six yards for a touchdown to seal the win.
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Luke Gutless, calling plays not to lose strikes again.
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Getsy may have his pick of OC jobs if the Bear launch him. Getting the job done with limited QB talent between Fields and Bagent.
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Someone had a second bowl of Troll flakes for breakfast this morning!
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Someone had a second bowl of Troll flakes for breakfast this morning!
And you a bowl of JF cum-flavored coffee…
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And you a bowl of JF cum-flavored coffee…
Such a good burn! 🔥
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Someone had a second bowl of Troll flakes for breakfast this morning!
You too!! 🔥
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Such a good burn! 🔥
And a great man once said, there’s always worse…
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Someone had a second bowl of Troll flakes for breakfast this morning!
Betting the Jets wish Getsy was their OC and able to make their QBs look remotely competent.
Or have him work with Mac Jones and the Pat's would be doing ok!
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Troll putting in the troll work! 💪
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Luke Gutless, calling plays not to lose strikes again.
You must not watch much football because there's worse offensive coordinators out there
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You must not watch much football because there's worse offensive coordinators out there
Good one! 🔥
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You must not watch much football because there's worse offensive coordinators out there
Ehhhhhh…maybe a couple.
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Ehhhhhh…maybe a couple.
I know, that only works for your guy, huh?!
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If Getsy were as good at offensive coordinating as Fields is at quarterbacking we’d have less of a problem.
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I know, that only works for your guy, huh?!
See my above post. Fields is much closer to good than Getsy is.
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Listened to a lot of post-game last night, and did hear the first “Getsy fan” caller in a long time, so momentum is building!
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Ehhhhhh…maybe a couple.
There are worse offensive coordinators out there, tho.
We just need to be patient.
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There are worse offensive coordinators out there, tho.
We just need to be patient.
There might a couple. He’s bottom 5 for sure.
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JT O’Sullivan still clowns his offensive plays and play-calling on the regular.
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My favorite was the “triple pull” play where the LT, LG, and C all pulled and O’Sullivan said “this isn’t a play on Friday night, Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon, or Sunday.”
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If Getsy were as good at offensive coordinating as Fields is at quarterbacking we’d have less of a problem.
Now this is your dumbest take ever.
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Might have to tap the breaks on the groundswell of support for Getsy! Lol
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https://x.com/laurencewholmes/status/1729521477093831097?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Just as much bad shit as you can find on Getsy, I can find the exact same amount on Fields…
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Just as much bad shit as you can find on Getsy, I can find the exact same amount on Fields…
There literally isn’t one person who thinks Getsy is good at his job.
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Funny because it’s true.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8RDMHrR/IMG-5690.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rKnx1LVY)
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The theory that Getsy is calling ultra-conservative games because he’s trying to protect a future 3rd round pick for Fields is an all-timer.
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Maybe it’s because JudgeJudy’s theory is true; they are TRYING to lose!
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Because they don’t trust him
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Because they don’t trust him
Then bench him.
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Someone got ahold of Luke Getsy’s playbook and it’s been leaked online. Here it is:
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Funny because it’s true.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8RDMHrR/IMG-5690.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rKnx1LVY)
Isn't that the guy who wanted to rape Dan Profts' wife? Unbelievable the "sources" you cite to validate your moronic takes.
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Isn't that the guy who wanted to rape Dan Profts' wife? Unbelievable the "sources" you cite to validate your moronic takes.
https://x.com/nicholasmoreano/status/1729559065108304369?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Then bench him.
They should. Fields averaging a fumble per game, right?
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Isn't that the guy who wanted to rape Dan Profts' wife? Unbelievable the "sources" you cite to validate your moronic takes.
You once repeatedly accused JudgeJudy of molesting his daughter. So he’s not the only one prone to making flippant comments that are in poor taste.
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They should. Fields averaging a fumble per game, right?
If you think he’s holding you back, bench him. Or…leave him in there and call plays in a way that makes him look just competent enough and secure that day 2 pick!
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You once repeatedly accused JudgeJudy of molesting his daughter. So he’s not the only one prone to making flippant comments that are in poor taste.
Does that mean you will refer to me as a source?
I wasn't on a 60,000 watt radio station.... nor was I serious. So I have that going for me.
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You once repeatedly accused JudgeJudy of molesting his daughter. So he’s not the only one prone to making flippant comments that are in poor taste.
Now they’re cigar and whiskey buddies
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Does that mean you will refer to me as a source?
I wasn't on a 60,000 watt radio station.... nor was I serious. So I have that going for me.
Nitpicking and more nitpicking
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Now they’re cigar and whiskey buddies
True!
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Christianity has shown me the way to forgiveness…
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Christianity has shown me the way to forgiveness…
You converted from Judaism, Judge Judy?
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You converted from Judaism, Judge Judy?
Just take the best from each and apply…
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You converted from Judaism, Judge Judy?
Alcoholism.
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Alcoholism.
Nope, no issues there…
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Nope, no issues there…
Why not?
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Nope, no issues there…
It’s better than most other isms.
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Just take the best from each and apply…
Pragmatism is a dead American philosophy, unfortunately.
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It’s better than most other isms.
Not sure this is correct, but hey, justify away!
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Pragmatism is a dead American philosophy, unfortunately.
Charles Sanders Peirce appreciates that someone still likes his work.
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I’d rather be an alcoholic than religious. It’s close, though.
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I’d rather be an alcoholic than religious. It’s close, though.
LOL
I wouldn’t say I’m “religious” but I have my own personal relationship with my God and my beliefs. Religion is separate from that.
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I’d rather be an alcoholic than religious. It’s close, though.
You would rather not be able to handle alcohol, have it basically ruin your life and the lives of those around you than to be religious?
That seems pretty fucked up.
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You would rather not be able to handle alcohol, have it basically ruin your life and the lives of those around you than to be religious?
That seems pretty fucked up.
Consider the source…
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You would rather not be able to handle alcohol, have it basically ruin your life and the lives of those around you than to be religious?
That seems pretty fucked up.
Explains a lot, really.
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Lol I’m sure all of you are exemplary Christian men.
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Lol I’m sure all of you are exemplary Christian men.
So you gave to be perfect to be a Christian? This is what’s weird about people who are against “religion” per se. People think you have to be perfect and are judgmental and all kinds of other BS. It’s warped to have it fit into your box so you can reject it. It’s weird…
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Explains a lot, really.
Are you saying that Robb was really AOTC?
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Lol I’m sure all of you are exemplary Christian men.
Seems like an odd thing to get out of the reaction.
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So you gave to be perfect to be a Christian? This is what’s weird about people who are against “religion” per se. People think you have to be perfect and are judgmental and all kinds of other BS. It’s warped to have it fit into your box so you can reject it. It’s weird…
Lol perfect? No…
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Seems like an odd thing to get out of the reaction.
Not you…
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Not you…
Saying everyone here is not an "exemplary Christian" when they call you out for lauding alcoholism over religion isn't a bit much? Not that I don't relish a good troll job....
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Saying everyone here is not an "exemplary Christian" when they call you out for lauding alcoholism over religion isn't a bit much? Not that I don't relish a good troll job....
Can’t help it this board doesn’t understand satire. I don’t have a problem with religious people; until they start trying to impose their beliefs onto the community at large, or say so in so is going to hell because he fucks other men consensually.
I’ll let everyone in on a little secret, though. There ain’t no Big Guy in the Sky. Or anywhere else for that matter. I have a lot of respect for the actual teachings of Christ. Minus the magic tricks.
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I’d been waiting for Tempo’s broader thoughts on Christianity. I am not disappointed.
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I’d been waiting for Tempo’s broader thoughts on Christianity. I am not disappointed.
Explain.
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Some famous former evangelical pastor talks about conservative Christians reactions to the Sermon on the Mount. Like, "Where did you get those liberal talking points?"
Meanwhile, Buddhist monks and priests tell me the Asian laity isn't much interested in the 4 noble truths or the 8 fold path. They are mostly looking for material blessings. Also what a friend calls "afterlife insurance" -- just in case.
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Lol sounds about right.
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Explain.
Anything I’ve ever seen from you regarding religion is basically taking potshots at religion and anyone who practices it. Then you at least somewhat seriously suggesting that being an alcoholic is better than being religious.
From the outside looking in, you appear to have a rather dull and unfulfilling career with no real family or social life. Throw in the sneering agnosticism/atheism and it’s the classic recipe for a rather bleak and meaningless existence. Which, coincidentally, is perfectly consistent with how alcoholics eventually end up living right up until they die sick and alone.
You seem to pick out the bad 1% of religion/religious people to try and make a sweeping generalization about the dangers and awfulness of the institution itself. It’s a really poor snapshot of what’s actually taking place out there, and fails to recognize the enormous good that religion does.
The vast majority of the people practicing religion are doing it for the right reasons and are finding fulfillment, purpose, and light in their lives. There are proven scientific health benefits to regular prayer/meditation/faith.
Very few of these people are shoving their beliefs down other peoples’ throats or oppressing anyone. If anything, they’re contributing way more net positivity to society than the average person.
Perhaps join a non-Denominational men’s group for a month or two this winter for some fellowship and camaraderie and report back?
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A for effort.
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I’m totally down with religious people who preach love, inclusion, and helping the needy. A lot of what I see is judgment and forcing their beliefs onto others. A lot of it is for show. IIRC Jesus taught us to practice our faith in private.
I’m totally down with the good stuff in religion. Just don’t believe in imaginary dudes in the sky. Or an afterlife. I’m down with love and kindness because it’s the right thing to do.
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FTR religion has killed and oppressed more people than any other entity. So it’s got that going for it as well.
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FTR religion has killed and oppressed more people than any other entity. So it’s got that going for it as well.
What if Christianity focused on the Sermon on the Mount and sober cultivation of the 7 or 10 virtues instead fanatical faith in Jesus?
What if Christians acknowledged there are other ways to salvation?
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I’m totally down with religious people who preach love, inclusion, and helping the needy. A lot of what I see is judgment and forcing their beliefs onto others. A lot of it is for show. IIRC Jesus taught us to practice our faith in private.
I’m totally down with the good stuff in religion. Just don’t believe in imaginary dudes in the sky. Or an afterlife. I’m down with love and kindness because it’s the right thing to do.
When you mostly consume left leaning media, which actively has a bone to pick with religion, I’m sure you do mostly see the negative.
What I’m saying is maybe entertain the idea of joining a men’s group and seeing what actually happens. Be the love and inclusivity and help the needy. It’s good for the soul. I’m not trying to be patronizing, I’m being absolutely sincere.
I’m by no means a Bible thumper and have spent various (dark) periods of my adulthood living totally agnostically. Like most of the Bruce Weber and John Groce years. My life is always fuller and more meaningful when I’m involved in the church and charity, even if it’s somewhat casually. You don’t have to be ten toes in on everything to benefit yourself and others.
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Ironically, my distaste for organized religion was born at the University of Illinois. Studying the earliest years of American history (Salem Witch Trials, and the principles that drove the founders) was an eye opener.
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I used to volunteer at food shelters and do more in the community. I’d like to get back to that. I make excuses for why I don’t have time for it, but I would think I could do it if I was committed to making it happen.
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I do agree with the psychological benefits it can have. I’ve considered going to mass occasionally even though I don’t believe in almost anything taught there anymore. I do think it’s important to have to time to meditate and reflect.
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I do agree with the psychological benefits it can have. I’ve considered going to mass occasionally even though I don’t believe in almost anything taught there anymore. I do think it’s important to have to time to meditate and reflect.
It sure as hell beats being an alcoholic
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It sure as hell beats being an alcoholic
You sure?
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It sure as hell beats being an alcoholic
Yeah, we can clearly now see the problem with his thought processes…
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Lol
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Hey Custard, can we start a “God talk” forum so we can all share our relationship with God stories?
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I can’t wait to participate in the what are your favorite New Testament verses thread.
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You sure?
Lol
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Sometimes I think the posters here wouldn’t recognize a tongue in cheek comment if it licked them on the face.
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I do love some good irony. A timely quote from the very recently deceased Shane MacGowan:
“The most important thing to remember about drunks is that drunks are far more intelligent than non-drunks. They spend a lot of time talking in pubs, unlike workaholics who concentrate on their careers and ambitions, who never develop their higher spiritual values, who never explore the insides of their head like a drunk does.”
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That’s seriously one of the dumbest quotes I’ve ever seen/heard in my life.
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That’s seriously one of the dumbest quotes I’ve ever seen/heard in my life.
You’re not drinking correctly, then.
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Oh boy, Tempo seriously thinks this way and believes the shit he spouts 🤦🏻♂️
A better quote from Mark Twain, I know I know, not some highly intelligent drunkard in a bar, but hey it’ll do… “It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.”
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Back to the point of this thread…
https://x.com/officialjaychi/status/1730990004204138823?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Back to the point of this thread…
https://x.com/officialjaychi/status/1730990004204138823?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Would be a pretty clear upgrade.
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Looking like the Bengal should be following Getsy's game plan from the Bear 2d game against the Viking. Then again, Mullens may have hit the guys that were wide open that Dobbs missed....
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Bye Luke, you sucked.
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Justin Fields: Coach Killer.
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ThePAMan: Message Board Troll
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ThePAMan: Message Board Troll
Kool-Aid34: Football Idiot.
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Kool-Aid34: Football Idiot.
Nah, more like educated layman.
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Aaron Rodgers’ towel boy Luke Getsy has no clue what he is doing. You arguably have the greatest running QB in NFL history, and you refuse to use that as a weapon when your offense is struggling. Justin Fields cannot go 4 carries for 3 yards in a 10 point loss. If he goes 11 for 10 yards, ok, at least you tried.
Calling back to back RB screens from your 6 yard line (when you’ve clearly fallen in love with the play) isn’t fooling a veteran defense like Tampa. Aaron Rodgers’ towel boy Luke Getsy should be arrested and brought to The Hague to stand trial for his crimes against humanity. That’s not to absolve Justin Fields from blame, he needs to get better. But just about everyone not named DJ Moore is failing him right now.
September.
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September.
The Viking game where Fields continually audibled to WR screens was after this, correct?