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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Custard on December 25, 2020, 04:50:12 PM
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Wisky with a huge road kill today @ Sparty.
Can Nebraska or Minny pull an upset at home tonight against Iowa or scUM?
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Minnesota taking it to xxxx in the 1st half. Hopefully they win it.
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Gofs up 5. Garza with 5.
Gofs will have to play well for the full 40.
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Gofs up 5. Garza with 5.
Gofs will have to play well for the full 40.
They’re kickin Garza’s ass lol. Crazy Minny is only up 5 and Garza only has 5 points. xxxx has a lot of shooters. Every single player on that team is a prick. Coach included.
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Oh well.
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Oh well.
😂 yup it’s over. 🤷🏻♂️
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Oh well
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Marcus Carr ties it up. OT in Minneapolis.
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Brandon Johnson lighting it up from deep
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Minny's gonna do it. Wow.
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Oh wow I just saw this. I stopped watching and thought xxxx had it locked up once they came back. Good job Minny!
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Iowa cannot guard anyone.
They can really put up some points, but you have to make stops.
This is a more dangerous version of the Fran system.
96th ranked D in country in KenPom.
And, yeah, they are pricks. I was at the game at Iowa last year and it was some punkass shit all night by
his kid and their fans.
Iowa as a state has become white hillbilly central.
Its like Duck Dynasty here anymore.
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Wisky with a huge road kill today @ Sparty.
Can Nebraska pull an upset at home tonight against scUM?
Tony Allen made things interesting in the first half but Franz locked him down in the second half. Dickinson also handled himself very well against constant double and triple teams. Fairly happy with where the team is at right now.
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Michigan is such a weird concept right now.
Juwan is almost destined to fail, just based on available his successful recruitment of talent.
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A nice Christmas present for Brandon Johnson and the gofs. I think they all opened up a package of character on Christmas morning.
“Everything that happened tonight was everything I dreamed of coming into the Big Ten,” said Johnson, who was mobbed by his teammates on the sideline after the comeback victory. “I’m just thankful that I’ve got the team that I have that supports everybody whether everything is going good or bad.”
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Turned it on for the last 5 minutes. Geez, Johnson was smokin'! What a nice dessert for a holiday dinner!
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Laid down with the kids thinking I’d get back up and watch some sports or a movie and passed the f out myself. Just now saw Minny pulled it out. Looked like Iowa had it in hand last I’d looked.
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They missed a bunch of free throws and never stayed home on the shooters at the end and in OT.
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Is NW for real?
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Is NW for real?
Appears that way....
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Msu looks like ass.
Who is the little Opie Taylor mthrfcker they put out there?
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Got some help tonight from Maryland beating Wisconsin at home.
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Wow Maryland hadn’t beaten anyone and got smacked around pretty good by the decent teams they’d played. That’s a bad L for Wisconsin but will take the help because they got one at sparty. But then they look like hot garbage all of a sudden and Minnesota and NU look like world beaters so when does the “B1G is overrated” narrative inevitably begin?
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You really can't take games off in this conference. Big Ten is an all out brawl every game.
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Yeah pretty sure we are going to lose at least one game we feel we shouldn’t lose. I do like the fact we put 69 😬 on a pretty elite defense the other night having played 3 games in 6 days with two of them being east coast trips
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rutger sbeat purdue
now northwesterv vs iowa
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1.5 black people on the floor in a Big Ten game. I wonder if Fran invested in cloning technologies.
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1.5 black people on the floor in a Big Ten game. I wonder if Fran invested in cloning technologies.
It's Iowa. They now have limits on number of black players on the team it appears. It's a fat white stupid racist state.
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If NW stops turning over the basketball they will beat Iowa.
Rutgers is the class of the league IMO. They lost to OSU with both Johnson and Young out of the game the last 8 minutes. They play the best D in the conference and Harper Jr. Is a lottery pick.
MSU was overrated as hell from day 1. Beating Duke got them vaulted 15 spots in the polls Duke blows ass.
Illinois needs to shore up the defense. If we can match the defensive intensity this team displayed at the end of last season we will win the B10.
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It's Iowa. They now have limits on number of black players on the team it appears. It's a fat white stupid racist state.
What’s a dazzling urbanite like you doing in a rustic setting like Iowa?
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Bohannon gutting the Cats with daggers.
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What’s a dazzling urbanite like you doing in a rustic setting like Iowa?
Yeah. Real big city guy here. Live in Davenport.
I grew up in Moline. My main office is in Peoria.
Iowa is like most midwest states (Illinois included) with a severe and angry growing rural and urban area divide.
Hell, I don't even like going to Menards in west Davenport. Parking lot is nothing but monster trucks with gun racks.
No mask rules in Iowa. Texas Roadhouse is packed almost every night. 12th highest Covid death rate in US.
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Bohannon gutting the Cats with daggers.
Ugh. They get him going along with Weiskamp and Frederick from outside; along with Garza from everywhere- they will be hard to cover.
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If NW stops turning over the basketball they will beat Iowa.
Rutgers is the class of the league IMO. They lost to OSU with both Johnson and Young out of the game the last 8 minutes. They play the best D in the conference and Harper Jr. Is a lottery pick.
MSU was overrated has hell from day 1. Beating Duke got them vaulted 15 spots in the polls Duke blows ass.
Illinois needs to shore up the defense. If we can match the defensive intensity this team displayed at the end of last season we will win the B10.
Hard to argue with this. I liked what I saw from our defense vs Indiana.
I think it comes down to Iowa, Illinois, Rutgers and 6 losses in league wins it.
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Bohannon gutting the Cats with daggers.
Doesn't it seem like Bohannon has been there for 10 years?
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Iowa is like most midwest states (Illinois included) with a severe and angry growing rural and urban area divide.
Hell, I don't even like going to Menards in west Davenport. Parking lot is nothing but monster trucks with gun racks.
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Um, I live here and have seen no evidence of this at all. "Severe and angry growing rural and urban area divde?" Seriously, where is this coming from? Who's angry, the country folk or the city folk? "Monster trucks?" Well if you want to see a lot of 4wd trucks, yes, you will find them at Menards or Farm & Fleet since contractors and farmers frequent there. "Gun racks?" GTFOOH.
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Yeah. Real big city guy here. Live in Davenport.
I grew up in Moline. My main office is in Peoria.
Iowa is like most midwest states (Illinois included) with a severe and angry growing rural and urban area divide.
Hell, I don't even like going to Menards in west Davenport. Parking lot is nothing but monster trucks with gun racks.
No mask rules in Iowa. Texas Roadhouse is packed almost every night. 12th highest Covid death rate in US.
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Ironically you seem like the angry one, lol
its ok to be white
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Ironically you seem like the angry one, lol
its ok to be white
Um, I live here and have seen no evidence of this at all. "Severe and angry growing rural and urban area divde?" Seriously, where is this coming from? Who's angry, the country folk or the city folk? "Monster trucks?" Well if you want to see a lot of 4wd trucks, yes, you will find them at Menards or Farm & Fleet since contractors and farmers frequent there. "Gun racks?" GTFOOH.
😂
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Well, chickenGeorge must not get out much. Lol.
A few things.....
I am not white.
Iowa has one highest obesity rates in the nation.
Yes, I am angry.
Any country where 74 million people voted for a blatant corrupt racist has major problems.
That said, there are assholes from all walks of life. It transcends race, color, and religion.
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Yes, I am angry.
clearly...
Any country where 74 million people voted for a blatant corrupt racist has major problems.
any country where 80 million people vote for a mentally incapable 50 years in the swamp political hack and an unpopular, socialist lying sack of shit has major problems
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I'm sure I've told the story about the redneckmobile with the "Bomb Iraqis" bumper sticker.
That was a Meijer parking lot, circa 2004.
The Trumpy guy, who sped around C-U in the big black pick-up with the Trump banners and American flags, turned out to be a friendly but mildly retarded small Towner who didn't realize that anybody might not love the Traitor in Chief - presumably because he'd never met anyone with that opinion. That made me a little sad for him because the finer print was a solicitation for business -hauling, lawn care, anything. He probably thought everyone would love to have his truck in their driveway.
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Well, chickenGeorge must not get out much. Lol.
A few things.....
I am not white.
Iowa has one highest obesity rates in the nation.
Yes, I am angry.
Any country where 74 million people voted for a blatant corrupt racist has major problems.
That said, there are assholes from all walks of life. It transcends race, color, and religion.
Respectfully, I get out enough. I don't see what you are talking about, at all. What you describe is some redneck haven that I just don't think exists here. (Now, if you want to talk about the Mississippi Valley Fair, that's another story) I also don't see this urban/rural angry divide you are referencing. I know I'm not angry with you city folk. Live and let live, you do you, Scotty P.
And I know a lot of people that own a lot of guns, and none of them have a gun rack in their truck.
Anyway, hope you can find some happiness.
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OT and the caricatures are just that, but there is a growing urban / rural disconnect.
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cant we just talk basketball
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I suspect the disconnect has always been there but the 24 hour news cycle and social media thrives on making us think everything is constantly turning to shit.
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any country where 80 million people vote for a mentally incapable 50 years in the swamp political hack and an unpopular, socialist lying sack of shit has major problems
Who is this?
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penn st vs indiana tonight
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BUtler looks bad this year
I'm calling Nebraska in a upset over Ohio st
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I'm calling Nebraska in a upset over Ohio st
LMAO, hopefully you were smart enough not to bet your hunch.
In the AP poll era, Nebraska men's basketball has been far less successful (championships) than Illinois football. How's that for some perspective...
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We should have never lost to Missouri. Tennessee doing them dirty right now on Mizzou's own home floor.
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Wtf is PSU wearing ?
Black and pink ?
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Another big ten OT game.
Tennessee up 4 touchdowns over Missouri. Still 11 minutes left
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One of my best friends resides in Davenport’s east village. We’re spending New Years on a dude’s trip to Deadwood.
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One of my best friends resides in Davenport’s east village. We’re spending New Years on a dude’s trip to Deadwood.
I live right up the hill off Jersey Ridge. 3 minutes from there.
Spent way too much money in those bars in my youth.
Have a great holiday.
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Thanks man you too
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I'm not sure I've ever seen letting the other team shoot 50% described this way ....
Xavier Pinson scored 11 points for Missouri, which didn’t get many chances to play at its preferred fast pace because it began most possessions by pulling the ball from the net.
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Missouri was fucking terrible last night and looked like hot garbage against Bradley the week before. They should have lost that game too if not for the blatant help from officials in the last 5 minutes of that game. I would not be shocked if their reality is sub .500 in the SEC. They are not a top 25 team. Both Bradley and Tennessee completely shut their offense down on their home floor.
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Missouri was fucking terrible last night and looked like hot garbage against Bradley the week before. They should have lost that game too if not for the blatant help from officials in the last 5 minutes of that game. I would not be shocked if their reality is sub .500 in the SEC. They are not a top 25 team. Both Bradley and Tennessee completely shut their offense down on their home floor.
yeah the homering and turning the game into clowndo ball near the end was very annoying to watch
like wtf who wants to watch a game with 52 fouls called
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yeah the homering and turning the game into clowndo ball near the end was very annoying to watch
like wtf who wants to watch a game with 52 fouls called
Bill Walton ?
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Coach K
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Wisco takes care of the #21 gofs, 71-59.
It wasn't that close.
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Wisco takes care of the #21 gofs, 71-59.
It wasn't that close.
See? You're a loser.
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Minnesota looked like hot garbage against us. Seemed unfathomable they would beat Iowa and pummeled Sparty shortly after. But certainly not surprised they struggled @ Kohl.
I didn’t expect the home court to hold as much advantage as normal but it kinda seems it does. The talking heads usually attribute the home court advantage to the fan and student presence—and I’m sure that’s part of it—but it seems pretty clear that the travel, playing in foreign arenas and inherent foul disparities are the root issues and probably always have been.
I always have had difficulty sleeping when traveling, particularly the first night or two in a hotel. That alone messes up every aspect of my performance for a couple days minimum.
Can’t imagine trying to play high level basketball on the road in arenas these guys play in once a year tops under those conditions.
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I always have had difficulty sleeping when traveling, particularly the first night or two in a hotel. That alone messes up every aspect of my performance for a couple days minimum.
That's what she said?
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Iowa at Rutgers is a good game.
Dakich claims Michigan is best team in BIG.
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Iowa gets big win @ Rutgers.
The door to BIG title goes through them for now I think.
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Dakich claims Michigan is best team in BIG.
We're cutting through the bottom half of the conference like a hot knife through butter!
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We're cutting through the bottom half of the conference like a hot knife through butter!
Gotta win the games you are supposed to win. LOL. The rest are a dogfight.
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Michigan making the NUrds look like an intramural squad at a traditionally white college.
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NU is not a good team. Have a couple players, but not a legit ranked team.
I am starting to wonder about all of these BIG teams being ranked.
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We're cutting through the bottom half of the conference like a hot knife through butter!
Michigan is a balanced team. Look to be in top tier with Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Rutgers.
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It’s basically Zaga and Baylor then everyone else. In the top 15 every other P5 team has at least one loss.
Kansas was ranked third and just got mauled on their home court by Texas.
Now, Texas looks pretty legit and their only loss is to Nova, but their game with Baylor was postponed so they could very well have two losses as well. And they haven’t beaten any other quality teams.
Tennessee was undefeated and looked like the Harlem Globetrotters @ Mizzou, then followed that up with a sputtering loss to pedestrian 5-3 Bama team.
B1G showed up pretty well in the B1G/ACC Challenge and in most other non conference matchups (other than Zaga and Baylor, that is). Wisconsin dropped one to Marquette in that bizarre ending but Marquette also beat Creighton who is ranked 11th (also with two losses)
Michigan State is not playing good basketball at this time and will likely drop out of the Top 25. But then again Michigan seems to be quite a bit better than expected and will be top 15 tomorrow. Maybe top 10.
Actually in the top 25 there aren’t many teams that haven’t either gotten their asses kicked once or lost to a lower ranked/unranked team.
I just think there’s a ton of parity in college BB in general. We knew the B1G was going to be a meat grinder and even the conference’s best teams would rack up some losses. What surprises me more is the game to game inconsistency and the unexpected drubbings across all conferences.
I think the lack of any normal game day atmosphere and the strange reality of travel/everything else with the pandemic play into it psychologically in ways that can’t be measured.
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It’s basically Zaga and Baylor then everyone else. In the top 15 every other P5 team has at least one loss.
Kansas was ranked third and just got mauled on their home court by Texas.
Now, Texas looks pretty legit and their only loss is to Nova, but their game with Baylor was postponed so they could very well have two losses as well. And they haven’t beaten any other quality teams.
Tennessee was undefeated and looked like the Harlem Globetrotters @ Mizzou, then followed that up with a sputtering loss to pedestrian 5-3 Bama team.
B1G showed up pretty well in the B1G/ACC Challenge and in most other non conference matchups (other than Zaga and Baylor, that is). Wisconsin dropped one to Marquette in that bizarre ending but Marquette also beat Creighton who is ranked 11th (also with two losses)
Michigan State is not playing good basketball at this time and will likely drop out of the Top 25. But then again Michigan seems to be quite a bit better than expected and will be top 15 tomorrow. Maybe top 10.
Actually in the top 25 there aren’t many teams that haven’t either gotten their asses kicked once or lost to a lower ranked/unranked team.
I just think there’s a ton of parity in college BB in general. We knew the B1G was going to be a meat grinder and even the conference’s best teams would rack up some losses. What surprises me more is the game to game inconsistency and the unexpected drubbings across all conferences.
I think the lack of any normal game day atmosphere and the strange reality of travel/everything else with the pandemic play into it psychologically in ways that can’t be measured.
All good points.
Its a weird season. I think that teams will start to round into better form in next couple weeks.
Our team D is looking a little better.
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Maryland @ Indiana tonight
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Terps deserve to lose just for wearing these uniforms.
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Hoosier message boards are going to be entertaining this season.
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Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein)
Wednesday's game between Penn State and Ohio State has been postponed due to issues related to COVID-19, per release.
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Hoosier message boards are going to be entertaining this season.
Archie gonna fuck around and get fired.
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I remember Tempo being very upset IU got Archie and we got Underwood.
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I remember Tempo being very upset IU got Archie and we got Underwood.
BTC on that one. @Tempo......
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I remember Tempo being very upset IU got Archie and we got Underwood.
Not sure he would have ever said anything that definitive!
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I wanna cheer for Rutgers but I think it’s better if Sparty wins?
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“The starting lineup at Wisconsin is actually older than that of the Chicago Bulls” according to announcers of this game.
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His name is Jay Bilas. He's a lawyer who played at Duke.
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Well, MSU woke up.
I think we will see more teams tightening up their D sets.We better up our game as the scoring will not be as easy anymore.
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Michigan is apparently 1976 Indiana
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Michigan is apparently 1976 Indiana
They are good.
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Michigan is apparently 1976 Indiana
If Juwan Howard can coach as well as he recruits, everyone else is fucked.
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If Juwan Howard can coach as well as he recruits, everyone else is fucked.
They look reasonably well coached in games I have seen. He has constructed a strong roster of pieces that look like they fit.
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Purdue comes back to beat Sparty in East Lansing.
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*like*
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Michigan State and Minny have to lead the nation in inconsistency
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Damn i turned the channel after sparty had the ball going to the line up 3 with 20 seconds left
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Purdue comes back to beat Sparty in East Lansing.
Geez. Missed the game. How do you go 3-24 from three on road and win?
MSU looked like they were getting it together last game, but losing to a mediocre Purdue at home is ....well, bad.
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Michigan State and Minny have to lead the nation in inconsistency
I'd say Michigan State has looked consistently awful all year. They only really looked good against Duke. The Struggled with Detroit. They struggled with WMU and Oakland for much of those games. They didn't look that good against a very bad ND team. Even their two B1G wins were fairly pitiful. Now they just lost at home to a Purdue team that didn't make a single jump shot in the first half and shot 3-24 from beyond the arc for the game. Then again it's possible I'm a bit biased here. ;D
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I actually think the game is passing Izzo by.
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Rutgers getting hammered at home. Didn't see that coming.
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OSU had 2 starters out too.
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SK are tough at the RAC. Gonna be a marathon thru this conference!
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Big 12 no push over this year either. Texas, KU, Baylor...WV has talent but they play low IQ ball.
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Just watched Texas.
Good team. Not great.
I think we are a little better defense consistency away from being Top 8 or better team.
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Iowa handling Minny.
Iowa is an unusual team.
Do not guard, but present a lot of problems and are deep.
They keep coming at you.
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Another poorly officiated game. Iowa getting away with way too much. Also never seen a moment in a game yet where Fran isn't bitching about something. Fuck Iowa
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He is whiney little bitch.
His sons are little bitches.
The younger one is gong to be good.
The older one sucksass.
They will be mediocre next year again, but are a handful right now.
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Iowa handling Minny.
Iowa is an unusual team.
Do not guard, but present a lot of problems and are deep.
They keep coming at you.
xxxx can shoot the 3 and Garza is a beast down low. He gets away with way too much imo. If you double down on him, they have great three-point shooters that hit at a very high %. If they get hot from 3, it’s over. They’re happy/comfortable with just trying to out score you and playing no D.
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All of Minny's losses have been on the road by an average of 20 points.
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It’s kind of a shame we don’t have a home and home with Iowa this year but given the situation I’m very glad we get them in Champaign. Hopefully the game will be officiated in a way that allows Kofi to be physical with Garza enough that we don’t have to hedge off their shooters too much. We are one of the few teams that has someone that can bother him defensively without doubling.
Garza will still get his but you just can’t give up a ton of open threes. Trent and Curbelo are a little shorter than ideal for closing out three point shooters so you really hate to have to double Garza when they’re in the game. Kofi will need to play smart and avoid fouls or we could get mauled even at home.
I could see Iowa getting really deep in the tourney with the right draw but could also see them getting beat by a quick swarming mid major team with a bunch of athletic 6’5-6’-9 guys
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Ketchup is red.
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The Nebraska uniforms are absolutely wretched. The front is bad enough, but with the huskers script on the back I can’t even learn the names of any of their unknown players.
They have a few guys with dreads, one with a buckwheat updo, an African looking fellow and a pasty white guy that looks like exactly like Opie Taylor. None of them appeared to be very good at basketball.
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xxxx can shoot the 3 and Garza is a beast down low. He gets away with way too much imo. If you double down on him, they have great three-point shooters that hit at a very high %. If they get hot from 3, it’s over. They’re happy/comfortable with just trying to out score you and playing no D.
They have a lot of offensive talent, are deeper than us and can go with different size lineups. Have several guys who can score big on a given night and Garza, although the slowest player in the country, is relentless worker. Will be tough.
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I almost feel bad for Wisconsin. Almost.
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The disparity in athletic quality was front and center. I'm not a recruiting nerd but Juwan seems to have way more "stars" on his squad. There's a lot of length there. Too bad we don't get them at home.
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Michigan is good. Real good. I think Wagner is going to be a nightmare. We have nobody really to guard him as we are too small at the 3/4 and he can do a lot of things.
Might be one of more multi talented players I have seen this year.
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Michigan is on a roll but they’ll get exposed
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Michigan is on a roll but they’ll get exposed
Dunno- we are halfway through and they keep improving.
They do not appear to have any real major roster makeup gap, are well coached, have a bench, can shoot, have a veteran PG, good Post, athletic versatile wings, and they guard.
I think the freshman center will struggle at some point, but they are the most complete team in BIG so far. Just my opinion.
They also have a very favorable schedule.
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Well Michigan looked like ass today. Missing Brooks was no excuse. They had worst game of the year. It happens. Their PG was awful and he had been very good. The freshman center and Wagner had a bad game also.
I felt like they were very good and top 8 ish before this. Some had them as a 1 seed. Not yet.
The Robbins kid from Minny is quite a story. He was a benchwarmer at the small school Catholic HS here in Davenport until his senior year and was just a big kid.
I barely recall him as not much more more than a big body and know the HS players in area pretty well. Had no D1 offers.
Went to prep school and lost 65 lbs.
Developed at Drake.
Is now 13/8 in BIG and looking like a very legit post who can step out a little bit.
Minny is not anything that special, but tough at home it appears and have now beaten Iowa and Michigan.
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Watch Purdue destroy Ohio ST tonight
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Maryland already getting curb stomped by UM half way thru the 1st half.
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A Purdue win here and it would be a much needed boost to our metrics
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Watch Purdue destroy Ohio ST tonight
Purdue won by 2 points. I can't be too disappointed, though, as it helps Illinois.
Besides, earlier today WR Chris Olave announced he is returning for his senior year. That means the best receiver at Ohio State (projected 1st round pick if he left) will be making acrobatic catches against Big Ten DBs for one more season. Even more good news -- all 5 of the top receivers this season at OSU are returning. Now we just gotta find a new QB.
I'll make the OSU BB loss for Chris Olave return trade 10 out of 10 times.
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I don't think much of either OSU or PU. Somehow these average BT teams keep showing up in the national rankings. OSU #15????
Is college BB that bad this year?
The BT is no different than most years in last 20+ years. The idea early on that the BT is the powerhouse conference is a myth.
Once again a couple teams that could make a deep run as 2 or 3 seeds, and a group of others hovering around in the 20-50 range who will get in as 6-11 seed and flame out.
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I don't think much of either OSU or PU. Somehow these average BT teams keep showing up in the national rankings. OSU #15????
Is college BB that bad this year?
The BT is no different than most years in last 20+ years. The idea early on that the BT is the powerhouse conference is a myth.
Once again a couple teams that could make a deep run as 2 or 3 seeds, and a group of others hovering around in the 20-50 range who will get in as 6-11 seed and flame out.
You are correct...The B10 is the same. But the field has never been worse when you look at all other teams and conferences. All the blue bloods are down, ACC is a disaster, Pac12 continues to suck, Big East is down....
Baylor and Gonzaga are really good. The rest of this is literally the absolute worst I have ever seen. Honestly college basketball has been declining for 15-20 years and it’s now escalating faster in that regard. This one month and done transfer shit and Wild West free agency is about to create a bigger suckfest
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Big 12 and SEC's top 4 teams are pretty solid, but yes I agree with the Big Ten is not what everyone has been bragging about.
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You are correct...The B10 is the same. But the field has never been worse when you look at all other teams and conferences. All the blue bloods are down, ACC is a disaster, Pac12 continues to suck, Big East is down....
Baylor and Gonzaga are really good. The rest of this is literally the absolute worst I have ever seen. Honestly college basketball has been declining for 15-20 years and it’s now escalating faster in that regard. This one month and done transfer shit and Wild West free agency is about to create a bigger suckfest
The lack of basic fundamentals is unreal. These guys cannot dribble with both hands, make a basic defensive stance or close out, and only a few can shoot.
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The lack of basic fundamentals is unreal. These guys cannot dribble with both hands, make a basic defensive stance or close out, and only a few can shoot.
pair that with massive egos and its hard to watch
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pair that with massive egos and its hard to watch
Kind of like this board!
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Indy 9-22 from the FT line up 11 on Iowa on the road 2 minutes left.
Frederick hurt.
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Really strange game. Iowa had several guys go ice cold and stopped getting it in to Garza. Indiana is a well drilled defensive team.
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I had a weird feeling that Indiana might win this game. I quit watching at halftime in favor of a movie, wish I’d have continued watching. I am having a hard time watching non-Illini games in these empty environments.
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I had a weird feeling that Indiana might win this game. I quit watching at halftime in favor of a movie, wish I’d have continued watching. I am having a hard time watching non-Illini games in these empty environments.
Worst game of year by far for Iowa. Bohannon was 0-9. Frederick was 0-2 and left game.
They gave up 50 points to a shitty Indiana offense. Iowa doesn't guard anyone, but usually gets away with it.
Now they get to be pissed off for a week before they come here.
The older McCaffery kid is a complete fcking punk. Bitches about EVERY call. Just like his old man.
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I figured Iowa would drop a couple games when their shots aren’t falling because they don’t guard. Championship caliber teams have defense to fall back on. I still don’t have a very good feeling about our matchup with them but more than happy to see them take a home loss to a mediocre team.
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Michigan @ Purdue tonight. Would be nice to see Michigan drop another one and help level things off at the top of the standings.
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Was hoping to see Michigan look off tonight so I could pretend they aren’t the best team in the league.
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Wisconsin not matching up athletically with Ohio St. Settling for long ass threes which aren’t falling. (2/15) Some of them will eventually drop and the game will loosen up so I expect the game to get closer but thus far Ohio State has energy and is exploiting Bucky everywhere.
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Maryland 63, Minnesota 49
The Big Ten is a gauntlet. Anybody can beat anybody.
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Maryland now with three top 20 wins on the road. Best bad team in the country?
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Maryland 63, Minnesota 49
The Big Ten is a gauntlet. Anybody can beat anybody.
I would agree there is parity, but it is mostly due to a league of mostly equally mediocre teams.
There is no way Wisconsin is 10th best team in country, or OSU is 15th best team.
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I agree that the B1G clearly lacks an elite level team.
But the B1G is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy wherein a bunch of mostly intact high quality teams returned and then end up beating each other up and making everyone look mediocre.
People were talking about this likely eventuality well before the season even started. Now it’s happening and of course now the B1G is overrated.
I will use Wisconsin and Iowa in my example here since they were good teams last year that returned pretty much everything. Returning everyone from a quality team is a probably the most foolproof predictor of NCAA success. Iowa returns the NCAA player of the year. So it’s pretty safe to say that unless a whole bunch of other NCAA teams got dramatically better, those two should definitely be considered high level teams this year.
Tons of losses are happening in the top 25 every week. This year if Wisconsin and Iowa and an 11-4 team with no bad losses that just handled #12 IL and #10 WI on the road (OSU) aren’t worthy of being in the top 15 this year then I really don't know who is. (Other than Baylor and Zaga)
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Tons of losses are happening in the top 25 every week. This year if Wisconsin and Iowa and an 11-4 team with no bad losses that just handled #12 IL and #10 WI on the road (OSU) aren’t worthy of being in the top 15 this year then I really don't know who is. (Other than Baylor and Zaga)
What he said.
Go Bucks! Oops, thought I was on Eleven Warriors. My bad. Apparently I'm posting on too many college sports forums.
Beat Iowa!!!
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I am going by what I see. These are crappy teams.
UM and Iowa are good, but each have issues that will likely prevent them from getting to FF, or maybe not even EE.
Iowa's defense is beyond bad and they will get beat in tourney by an athletic team that can guard the 3, and knows how to double and recover.
UM's frosh center is hitting a wall, Wagner is either great or disappears, and the PG is not as as good as I thought. They are best all around team in BIG, but are not elite at all.
OSU and Illinois are in next tier of S16 possible teams, but both have roster and matchup challenges. OSU is a team of midgets.
Illinois should be better than they are performing. I think we have biggest upside if Sgt. Hulka can start to figure out some things. We have defense issues, need to develop more options at the 4 and the bench, and lack toughness. Will be interesting to see how we do next four games. Last year we developed in second half. Who will step up?
Everybody else actually is mediocre IMO. It's simply bad basketball- not a deep league of really tough teams. The MVC used to do an RPI scam a few years ago. I feel like that is what is going on with the various rankings and metrics this year.
These teams do not pass the eye test.
FWIW- the Big 12 has 6 teams in top 22 in KenPom.
We have 5.
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ohio st beat penn st
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Little Brother HA HA
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Little Brother HA HA
Izzo needs to retire. Game has passed him by for some time.
They are terrible and his system is 20 years old.
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Little Brother HA HA
You were conspicuously absent during MGOducking college football season. Why is that? If memory serves, MSU's 1st year coach with no time to prepare his team took the Spartans on the road and laid waste to the Wolverines.
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You were conspicuously absent during MGOducking college football season. Why is that? If memory serves, MSU's 1st year coach with no time to prepare his team took the Spartans on the road and laid waste to the Wolverines.
I've never talked football on this board. I'm a basketball guy. Even when Michigan is good in football I stop paying attention the first week of November when exhibition games and secret scrimmages start. Little Brother beat one of the shittiest Michigan football teams of all time. Good for them I guess? Didn't really do them much good did it?
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I can't even finish typing the word footbszzz-zzz-z-zz
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Izzo needs to retire. Game has passed him by for some time.
They are terrible and his system is 20 years old.
they won the recruiting games tho
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Izzo needs to retire. Game has passed him by for some time.
They are terrible and his system is 20 years old.
Really? Sparty made the Final Four in 2010, 2015 & 2019, with an Elite Eight appearance in 2014. IMO, that's pretty good for the past 10 seasons (excluding 2020, when there was no NCAA Tournament).
MSU is a train wreck this year, but so is Duke. Kansas isn't dominating the Big XII this year like it has done in recent past.
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I've never talked football on this board. I'm a basketball guy. Even when Michigan is good in football I stop paying attention the first week of November when exhibition games and secret scrimmages start. Little Brother beat one of the shittiest Michigan football teams of all time. Good for them I guess? Didn't really do them much good did it?
I understand why you would stop watching UM football first week of November. Especially in 2020. The best move Harbaugh made all season was invoking Covid-19 and ducking Ohio State and Iowa.
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Really? Sparty made the Final Four in 2010, 2015 & 2019, with an Elite Eight appearance in 2014. IMO, that's pretty good for the past 10 seasons (excluding 2020, when there was no NCAA Tournament).
MSU is a train wreck this year, but so is Duke. Kansas isn't dominating the Big XII this year like it has done in recent past.
I admit it. I can't stand Izzo. They are brutal to watch for over 2 decades.
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I understand why you would stop watching UM football first week of November. Especially in 2020. The best move Harbaugh made all season was invoking Covid-19 and ducking Ohio State and Iowa.
If only it had cost OSU a playoff berth. Oh well.
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Michigan St has to hold the record for most appearances in Final Four by teams that really weren’t thought to be Final Four quality.
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I admit it. I can't stand Izzo. They are brutal to watch for over 2 decades.
Lol, I don't share your disdain for Izzo. That's reserved for Bob Knight. MSU didn't win pretty, but it won often over the years under Izzo. FWIW, Illinois is on its @7th head coach in both basketball and football since Izzo took over in East Lansing.
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Izzo had a great mentor.
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Lol, I don't share your disdain for Izzo. That's reserved for Bob Knight. MSU didn't win pretty, but it won often over the years under Izzo. FWIW, Illinois is on its @7th head coach in both basketball and football since Izzo took over in East Lansing.
Good point. LOL.
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PSU handles Wisconsin rather easily. Put up 50 in second half.
Badgers are really not very good. Best win is Loyola Chicago and then Indiana.
Not easy team to play due to discipline, but mediocre overall.
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purdue destroyed minnesota
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purdue destroyed minnesota
Minn is terrible on the road. Carr has been bad.
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Minn is terrible on the road. Carr has been bad.
Yeah and if he's having a bad game they are pretty much helpless.
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Yeah Wisconsin really making me regret defending them the other day. Thought their floor was much much higher than losing to a really limited and beleaguered PSU ream
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PSU is better than people think maybe. They play hard.
Wisky is just meh.
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Michigan St has to hold the record for most appearances in Final Four by teams that really weren’t thought to be Final Four quality.
I'd be happy if Illinois made the Final Four (multiple times) with teams most thought wouldn't make it that far in the tournament. Overachieving is a very good thing during March Madness; underachieving, not so much.
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Iowa in death spiral without Frederick.
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Iowa in death spiral without Frederick.
Isn't it wonderful?! Bleep Iowa.
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Iowa in death spiral without Frederick.
https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-09-2016/cXxJYC.mp4
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The great thing about watching the Iowa Indiana game was that I knew one of them would lose.
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https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/fran-mccaffery-upset-postgame-question-iowa-loss
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https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/fran-mccaffery-upset-postgame-question-iowa-loss
He is a total dick. I guess his wife is worse. I think I recall she was asked to stop coming to practices early on. https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/sports/ncaabasketball/09maac.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/sports/ncaabasketball/09maac.html)
The older is a complete punk and is terrible shooter.
The younger one has some game.
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He is a total dick. I guess his wife is worse. I think I recall she was asked to stop coming to practices early on. https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/sports/ncaabasketball/09maac.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/sports/ncaabasketball/09maac.html)
The older is a complete punk and is terrible shooter.
The younger one has some game.
It was a very reasonable question, IMO. He sat (arguably) the best player in the country for 12 minutes of the first half because he had 2 fouls. Indiana went on a big run and took the lead. He must be one thin-skinned mofo.
Oh, and he finished the game with.....2 fouls.
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They play a lot of zone. Could have easily traded to not fully contest a few shots for his usual 12 or 13 points in the half.
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MSU is really bad.
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MSU is really bad.
Believe it or not Loyer was a Top 100 recruit.
He looks like an end of game walk on kid to me.
They are almost as bad as Nebraska.
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Believe it or not Loyer was a Top 100 recruit.
He looks like an end of game walk on kid to me.
Thought it was another Lickliter for a minute.
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Chris Collins is 16-56 in big ten play since they made the tourney
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Even Lovie Smith is embarrassed by that
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Chris Collins is 16-56 in big ten play since they made the tourney
He's a terrible coach, period. Oh to go on in life being placed there because of your daddy. The nepotism, terrible. What a sad life he lives, maybe pathetic is the better word.
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I don't often root for the badgers but today I'll make an exception. It's time to make the push for a #1 seed. That's the best way to avoid playing Baylor again before FF.
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Wisconsin playing well so far and up 12 at the half. 👏🏼 👏🏼
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Michigan looks terrible so far.
You have to figure they will shoot better in 2nd half.
Wisconsin sucks.
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Davison just got away with 2 fouls that could have been flagrant.
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Michigan’s length might hurt us if we end up playing them. Wagner is 6’9” and gonna be a matchup nightmare for us. Dickinson and Kofi is gonna be two grown ass men battling. He’s pretty impressive.
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Haven’t watched Michigan much but pretty sure Livers and Brooks and Wagner will give us problems.
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And Wisconsin blew it. No idea how they were ranked so high at the beginning of the year, they’re trash.
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It’s the same team that won the conference last year. But they had a pretty easy schedule last year and the rest of the conference got better on average.
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No idea how they were ranked so high at the beginning of the year
Returning 5 starters from a B1G championship team?
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Returning 5 starters from a B1G championship team?
Yeah true. I just can’t believe how much they’ve regressed. They look like complete shit.
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They did look awful in 2nd half. Maybe they're past their prime?
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They did look awful in 2nd half. Maybe they're past their prime?
Lol. Trice was born May 6,1996.
He will be 25 in a couple months.
Wisconsin just does not match up athletically with a lot of teams. I think their best win is Chi Loyola. They are like a well coached mid major.
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Wow!
https://twitter.com/hardwiredsports/status/1361043099909300226?s=21
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Minnesota is pathetic anywhere except their own gym. Like not even competitive.
No way they should be in tournament.
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Wow!
Swing offense. :shrug
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Wow!
https://twitter.com/hardwiredsports/status/1361043099909300226?s=21
Dickinson kept multiple plays alive with tips and taps that didn’t even seem like they were possible until he did them. Seemed like he had Stretch Armstrong arms. Wisconsin was also passive and not in position.
I think Kofi can more than match him but as is often the case with big men in college basketball it’ll likely come down to officiating. If we make up the game @Ann Arbor and get the normal B1G home cooking, it’s going to be tough sledding.
With their size advantage, Kofi is going to have to help more than we’d like when their bigger wings post up or get going downhill. That then frees Dickinson, puts Kofi out of rebounding position, and forces our smaller players to grab boards against Dickinson and those big wings. Could see second chance points being a big issue in the matchup but think we would fare better than Wisconsin did down the stretch of today’s game.
Their length is going to bother us no matter where we play them as that’s been a problem all season long for this team. Thus I don’t see a position on the floor (other than Ayo’s) where we have a clear personnel advantage on either end of the floor unless Kofi is allowed to be physical on both ends.
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Dickinson kept multiple plays alive with tips and taps that didn’t even seem like they were possible until he did them. Seemed like he had Stretch Armstrong arms. Wisconsin was also passive and not in position.
I think Kofi can more than match him but as is often the case with big men in college basketball it’ll likely come down to officiating. If we make up the game @Ann Arbor and get the normal B1G home cooking, it’s going to be tough sledding.
With their size advantage, Kofi is going to have to help more than we’d like when their bigger wings post up or get going downhill. That then frees Dickinson, puts Kofi out of rebounding position, and forces our smaller players to grab boards against Dickinson and those big wings. Could see second chance points being a big issue in the matchup but think we would fare better than Wisconsin did down the stretch of today’s game.
Their length is going to bother us no matter where we play them as that’s been a problem all season long for this team. Thus I don’t see a position on the floor (other than Ayo’s) where we have a clear personnel advantage on either end of the floor unless Kofi is allowed to be physical on both ends.
I think they are possibly vulnerable at two spots to us and other better teams- Dickinson and Smith vs Kofi and Ayo. They are better at other three spots and their bench is more consistent. We will have to shoot pretty well, stop the ball, and rebound. They usually have five guys who can score on the floor even when they go to their bench. We are more dependent upon two guys. All things being equal evenly matched teams and I think it is a toss up depending upon who hits more threes that night. Both average about 7+ a game. Too bad they don't play home and home as it would help both of them for tourney.
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And in other news, Minnesota loses on road again. In danger of going entire year with zero road wins. 0-8 now. 13-1 at home.
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They're not good. They have two big problems, one is Carr's shot selection. It's atrocious. The other is that their big man Robbins has replaced Haarms as the BIG TENs bitch down low that everyone abuses.
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Losing Gabe Kalscheur didn't help.
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They're not good. They have two big problems, one is Carr's shot selection. It's atrocious. The other is that their big man Robbins has replaced Haarms as the BIG TENs bitch down low that everyone abuses.
Agree Carr is a total chucker.
Robbins is 12/7 for the year and has had some very big games in BT. Has been hurt lately. Movement isn't good. He can play.
But agree he is not at level of a lot of future pros he is going up against.
Little Pitino is shitty coach.
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Losing Gabe Kalscheur didn't help.
Agree. He is very good defender.
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Iowa is dangerous.
Michigan looking solid. 8 guys scored in 1st half and 7 with 4 or more points. They have a lot of ways to attack and they guard.
Brad Davison is a dirty punk. Should have went to Duke.
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Sneaky how he hides the second D.
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Sneaky how he hides the second D.
I mean wtf.... What did he do with it?
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Jabbed it into somebody's nutsack.
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Here is an interesting stat.
EJ Liddell is shooting 46% from three since our game. (12/26) over 9 games so kind of a thing now.
Guy is becoming 1st team All BT.
I am becoming convinced that they are for real. Looking forward to game on Sunday.
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Here is an interesting stat.
EJ Liddell is shooting 46% from three since our game. (12/26) over 9 games so kind of a thing now.
Guy is becoming 1st team All BT.
I am becoming convinced that they are for real. Looking forward to game on Sunday.
That will be a good one.
I guess we aren't making up the Michigan game? Don't see it on the revised schedule.
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That will be a good one.
I guess we aren't making up the Michigan game? Don't see it on the revised schedule.
According to our Rivals guy the plan is still to make it up.....
There will be one more make-up game ... and that's Illinois, per a source at the Big Ten office in Chicago. That game will also be at home the final week of the season, giving U-M three games in six games to finish the year. As of now, it appears that game will be March 2.
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Thanks! That's good to know.
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Geez, UM and OSU en fuego.
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Geez, UM and OSU en fuego.
They shoot well, but I think Illinois plays better defense than either one.
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That was the best half of basketball I have seen all year by two teams.
They both look great.
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They shoot well, but I think Illinois plays better defense than either one.
I like UM defense best in the league. I like our offense. It's close.
All three of these teams playing at high level.
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Fun game to watch. Both teams have schemed well offensively and are executing. Both defenses have given up plenty of wide open shots. Seems like all of them go in.
Man 51-50 with 17 mins to play is so much better than the B1G of years past.
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The thing I noticed was Michigan seemed to get most of the 50/50 loose balls. Juwan has done a hell of a job there.
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I hope Justice Sueing had money on Michigan.
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Great game. The better team won IMO, but OSU is damn good.
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Great game. I don't want to play either of them. They will be tough match ups.
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Yeah they got a lot of the 50/50 balls but a bunch of stuff went Michigan’s way in that stretch including a couple funky bounces and that behind-the-back pass on the wing that EJ didn’t see.
I almost think the Illini match up better with Michigan than OSU because Kofi should win the matchup with Dickinson (which is where Ohio State got killed). Dickinson isn’t the outside threat Liddell is, so Kofi won’t have to chase him around the perimeter.
Both teams kind of seem to be more than the sum of their individual parts whereas Illinois is two studs, a solid senior, and a bunch of guys.
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Well looks like Frans upset about 8 to 3 foul disparity against psu in the 1st half.
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So do we get the #4 spot now?
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This Iowa Penn state game is almost as fun as the ohio michigan one
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Michigan is the real deal
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Sven are you drunk?
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Looks like the Bucknut game took on more importance. If we take care of business in other games, beat tOSU, and lose to Sven's team, I like our chances for a #1 seed.
The Bucknuts were tough on our floor tho, and Sven's team is solid. We've got a tough schedule.
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Sven are you drunk?
I don't drink much anymore but I was stoned AF all day. It's the only way I can get through a game like that. And I still pace the room like a crazy person the entire game.
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Was a helluva game. If Wagner ever gets more assertive you can win it all.
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It appears that refs are under strict orders by BT to get MSU into the tourney. Washington pretty clearly fouled and no call at end.
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It appears that refs are under strict orders by BT to get MSU into the tourney. Washington pretty clearly fouled and no call at end.
MSU and Duke both.
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First post.
I assume the rest in the thread are about the same. lol
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I hate to admit it, but Michigan is a lot better than Illinois.
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Will be an interesting matchup for sure. I actually like that these guys are learning to play without Ayo and hope when Ayo comes back that 1) he’s as effective as he was before and 2) that the other guys stop watching him and attack like they are now
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Will be an interesting matchup for sure. I actually like that these guys are learning to play without Ayo and hope when Ayo comes back that 1) he’s as effective as he was before and 2) that the other guys stop watching him and attack like they are now
FTs will doom this team. Good teams hit their FTs.
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Michigan plays good d and can be deliberate and efficient on offense.
We can't throw the ball all over the place against them.
xxxx will be playing for a double bye tomorrow at tOSU, and Nunge is out.
xxxx wins and the best TOSU can do is 13-7.
xxxx loses and the best they can do is 13-7.
PU can finish 13-6.
Last I saw, seeds are based on winning percentage.
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Michigan is best team in league by large margin.
Wagner playing more assertively now.
They are capable of winning national title.
I don't see us having stepped up much really without Ayo. Really sloppy. We will not beat anybody decent without Ayo. For all the good things Curbelo has done he has 11 TOs in last two games.
Wisconsin was terrible today and they are bad. Their best win is Loyola.
Nebraska sucks.
Need Ayo back for BTT and for NCAA to do anything. We will go as far as his health allows. We were starting to get to another competitive level finally.
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MD beating the Izzo League Welfare Reclamation Projects by 10 at half.
I am sure the league brass will give the officials a stern talking to at halftime.
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Not Big10, but Nova shot 7.4% from 3 in loss to Butler. 2-27.
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MD beating the Izzo League Welfare Reclamation Projects by 10 at half.
I am sure the league brass will give the officials a stern talking to at halftime.
Fear the Turtle!
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Poor Sparty.
They most likely got the wins they needed to be the 9th, and last team in for the Big10.
Edit: were given
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It's not easy to root for Iowa.
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Don't do it.
Makes it easier.
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Don't do it.
Makes it easier.
Well, I was rooting for the earth to open and swallow both teams. Short of that, I thought their winning would be better for us.
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Not sure how MSU gets in unless they make a run in BTT.
They are going to lose 2 of next 3 most likely. 8-12 and 14- 12 is not an NCAA team in any universe.
But there is always the refs giving them one of the UM games.
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They may get in with NET or quad wins, or something. 2 wins vs top 5 teams in 3 days may go a long way.
xxxx is playing well. Bucknuts struggling.
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Idk it’s a weird year most teams didn’t get to pad their records with a large non conference schedule, the B1G is extremely tough and deep and just as an example Illinois made the tourney as a 7 seed with an 8 win B1G team in 2013.
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The converse (RIP Lou!) is the annual smorgasbord of paper tigers who enter the tournament with a dazzling record, then get bounced by a team that's played worthwhile competition.
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Well, I think MSU is better at this point than Indiana or Minnesota who have no business getting in either.
BT is somewhat over rated. UM and then 3 other very good teams at top for sure and S16 or better capable. The rest are just filler at best and then some are garbage.
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Every metric available demonstrates the conference is historically great this year.
Three teams are vying for a 1 seed and Iowa is still fighting for a potential 2 seed as March arrives.
The same exact team that finished strong to win the B1G last year is a fading middle of the pack team this year.
It’s easy to forget Minnesota absolutely manhandled Michigan, Maryland is going to be a handful at their seed, Purdue has really rounded into form, Rutgers (on a good night) can play with anyone in the country, etc.
It’s easy to see all the flaws in the B1G teams but having watched other conference games it looks like minor leagues aside from maybe the SEC.
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I would respectfully disagree.
Its all relative.
I think the fact college basketball is overall weaker might make the BT look better comparatively than previous years.
That doesn't make the BT great.
The Illinois team at end of year last year would beat this Illinois team more often than not. More consistent execution on both sides of ball and more prepared and tougher mentally and physically each night.
You think we are historically great? We just had 20 TOs versus a very unathletic Wisconsin team that has not beaten a Top 25 team all year unless you want to count midmajor Loyola.
The BT should have 2 or 3 pretty good, not great teams do well in tourney. The fact that 8-9 get in the field is simply a reflection on overall college BB.
I do not see a great team in the BT, or nationally.
Just my opinion.
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LOL. I know. I have been watching and playing and coaching basketball since the early 60's. This isn't good BB overall in my opinion and I am big proponent of modern metrics and the shift to analytics.
A few very good teams and a lot of not so good teams.
But as far as lack of fundamentals- I can be an old man yelling at clouds. Guilty.
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The Wisconsin game set basketball back 60 years I think. We threw it away nearly 1/3 of our 73 possessions.
I love Curbello. Did not love his pass to nobody.
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Every metric available demonstrates the conference is historically great this year.
Three teams are vying for a 1 seed and Iowa is still fighting for a potential 2 seed as March arrives.
The same exact team that finished strong to win the B1G last year is a fading middle of the pack team this year.
It’s easy to forget Minnesota absolutely manhandled Michigan, Maryland is going to be a handful at their seed, Purdue has really rounded into form, Rutgers (on a good night) can play with anyone in the country, etc.
It’s easy to see all the flaws in the B1G teams but having watched other conference games it looks like minor leagues aside from maybe the SEC.
The BTT will be must see TV, from start to finish. There will be upsets!
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LOL. I know. I have been watching and playing and coaching basketball since the early 60's. This isn't good BB overall in my opinion and I am big proponent of modern metrics and the shift to analytics.
A few very good teams and a lot of not so good teams.
But as far as lack of fundamentals- I can be an old man yelling at clouds. Guilty.
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The Wisconsin game set basketball back 60 years I think. We threw it away nearly 1/3 of our 73 possessions.
I love Curbello. Did not love his pass to nobody.
yeah the Wisco game was hard on the eyes, we do have quite a bit of youth on the team that doesn't quite understand yet what they can and can't do... there's no denying their talent however
AAU ball has pretty much ditched the fundamentals and promoted athleticism and dunk or 3 ball style play, not necessarily what will translate into NCAA success
totally agree though that most kids these days have a severe lack of fundamentals (triple threat position, boxing out, passing, and dribbling especially) but thankfully those can be learned throughout college careers... nothing annoys me more than a pick and roll where the guard never uses the pick and just goes the totally wrong direction... lol happens about 80% of the time these days
I would say this is the best the big ten has been in a very long time, entertaining basketball most nights, but overall college hoops has been declining since the 2000's
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15-20 years ago it seemed like the most impactful players in college basketball often became future NBA all stars. In this day and age the most impactful players are often well- developed fundamentally sound 3-4 year players who more or less hit their ceiling in college. It’s pretty clear that the one and done era hasn’t been good for overall talent level in NCAA basketball.
There were parts of the Wisconsin game that certainly weren’t pretty but we scored 74 in a win @ Kohl...how quickly we’ve forgotten those 40-50 point rock fights against Wisconsin and the like where a 6 point deficit felt like 16.
Brad wants IL to play fast and with that you’ll get some head scratching turnovers (esp from young players) but it also generates a lot of points in transition, offers freedom to create, wears down the other team, and is an exciting brand of basketball that kids want to play for. Gotta take the good with the bad imo.
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Nebraska up 26 on Rutgers at home with 12 to play.
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Brad wants IL to play fast and with that you’ll get some head scratching turnovers
... and triple-doubles.
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Those, too
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The converse (RIP Lou!) is the annual smorgasbord of paper tigers who enter the tournament with a dazzling record, then get bounced by a team that's played worthwhile competition.
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Iowa heating up at right time. Bohannon is so streaky.
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Purdue up by 10 over Indiana with 9 min left.
Game over.
Indiana can't score 10 points in 9 minutes.
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Refs looking at video over possible flagrant 1 vs Garza in Wisco game.
Color guy starts talking about refs looking at flagrant 1 more after Ayo collided with Sissoko.
Color guy says Sissoko should have been called for flagrant 1 when Kofi's noggin collided with Sissoko earlier.
Color guy says they call the 1st flagrant, and maybe Ayo isn't in the position to collide with Sissoko later.
Ya think ?
No flagrant on Garza, but Wieskamp out with an anker.
Wisco down 35-26 at the half, and Donny Marshall is color guy.
Anyhow, after Ayo's collision we destroyed Michigan and said see ya to the Bucknuts #1 seed hopes. In case anyone forgot.
Fuck Izzo.
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Cosign fr!!
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Does it matter to us who wins this Iowa game other than hatred for Iowa?
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Wisconsin is locked into 6 seed regardless of this outcome. #7-#10 TBD
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Anyone who doubts that players take on the personality of their coach needs to watch a few Iowa games.
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He whines more than Izzo. I still cant decide whom I hate more. They're both douchbags.
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What a sad pathetic call
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6 of last 7 fouls on Wisconsin. This after a 1st half disparity 9-4
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Ugly game.
Iowa in trouble if Weiskamp is out.
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Northwestern v Minnesota. A battle of titans.
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I really don’t wanna play Indiana for a third time and be their super bowl
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Hoosiers getting booed in Indy going over 9 minutes without a field goal to end the loss to Rutgers 61-50.
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Rutgers,it is.
I’ll be a bundle of nerves no matter who we're playing.
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I remember how much I wanted Archie to coach here. Wonder if he's done there?
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Fans booing at the BTT, in Indy, isnt a very good look.
I'm fine if they keep him tho.
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Good for us if they keep him but dude got booed off the court. I'd imagine he's gone.. 4 years of mediocre results and things don't look to be getting better.
The indiana message boardds are entertaining tonight..They are in full meltdown
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watch for Indiana to make a huge run at Chris Beard
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Wisconsin is gonna go into the Iowa game with unfinished business tomorrow. Hoping we cruise against Rutgers and Iowa gets all they want and more from Wisconsin.
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Wisconsin is gonna go into the Iowa game with unfinished business tomorrow. Hoping we cruise against Rutgers and Iowa gets all they want and more from Wisconsin.
Yep.
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Joe Weiskamp in a super hero boot vs Ayo in a super hero mask would be one for the ages. But first we gotta beat a team that may well have contended for a title in the ACC or PAC.
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I assume everyone has seen Valvano's ESPY speech. The Rutgers basketball part using a Vince Lombardi speech is great......
It's the 1:05 minute video, but the lead-in is in the full video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1019739541933084672
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A couple close calls yesterday, but no upsets into the quarterfinals for the first time in 10 years.
I'd love to see Maryland take down Michigan today.
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A couple close calls yesterday, but no upsets into the quarterfinals for the first time in 10 years.
I'd love to see Maryland take down Michigan today.
Please make it happen.
I do not like our matchup with Rutgers. They are long and we have a really hard time matching up with their size. I think the Illini are on a mission to shock the world and pull this one out.
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watch for Indiana to make a huge run at Chris Beard
have you heard the Chris Beard story?
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have you heard the Chris Beard story?
Not that stupid shit again.
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Virginia forfeits game vs. GT. NC A&T forfeits season positive tests. Dukes done now. Getting through this weekend will be nerve racking.
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Rutgers has underachievied all year. Will take a good game to beat them. This game will likely be more difficult than the next.
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Virginia forfeits game vs. GT. NC A&T forfeits season positive tests. Dukes done now. Getting through this weekend will be nerve racking.
should have just cancelled BIG TEN TOURNEY
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Yeah these tourneys are a nice money grab with some exciting matchups but a two week quarantine heading into the NCAA tourney might have been a good idea. Guess we will see
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I read an article that the Big10 had the strictest Covid standards. Dunno if it's true.
If true, we may be seeing evidence of that.
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Maryland was really giving Michigan problems with their intensity until Michigan rallied after a couple iffy calls and sloppy turnovers seemed to put Maryland on their heels a bit.
Mike Smith looks like a hedgehog.
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Maryland taking bad shots and playing matador defense, kinda look like they ran out of gas after that early burst.
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Big 10 coach of the year getting ejected. Classy.... ;D
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Maryland just doesn’t have a guy to handle Dickinson 1 on 1 and Michigan moves and shoots the ball too well to double him. They’re gassed. Missed some bunnies due to Dickinson’s presence and have settled for a ton of early threes they can get any time...putting even more pressure on their defense.
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Turgeon's version.
He contacted the conference office and he also spoke with Warren about their earlier head to head matchups. I'm guessing Turgeon doesn't appreciate how those games were handled.
He also mentioned his 34 years in coaching twice, and said all he told Howard was 'Don't talk to he's.
I wonder if he thinks maybe Michigan shouldnt have been declared champs and Howard shouldn't be COTY ?
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It would actually be fitting karma if the 'rona hit Michigan and kept them out of the tournament.
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Lots of versions of origin of the ongoing bad blood.
Supposedly Dickinson was trash talking Turgeon in earlier games "that you shoudl have recruited me harder".
Of course then Howard states his grandmother had instructed him to not take any bullshit from anyone and that Turgeon came at him.
I don't quite get banner thing other than Turgeon allegedly yelled at UM "that the banner was coming down" at some point before. It had nothing to do with Whitnits' beef.
Turgeon had also complained earlier to league about something or other that he referenced and he is very disturbed by it after 34 years of coaching.
Suffice to say they don't like each other.
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34 years in? Who doesn't want to punch Turdgeaon? I hate Michigan but I'll give Juwan benefit of the doubt in this.
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34 years in? Who doesn't want to punch Turdgeaon? I hate Michigan but I'll give Juwan benefit of the doubt in this.
I thought Howard was pretty funny. I like him.
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I've never seen anything to dislike about Turgeon.
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OSU trying to give this one away, too.
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OSU trying to give this one away, too.
Turning into a game.
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There are WAY too many mouthbreathing Hoosiers in there.
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OT in Indy.
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Lots of versions of origin of the ongoing bad blood.
Supposedly Dickinson was trash talking Turgeon in earlier games "that you shoudl have recruited me harder".
Of course then Howard states his grandmother had instructed him to not take any bullshit from anyone and that Turgeon came at him.
I don't quite get banner thing other than Turgeon allegedly yelled at UM "that the banner was coming down" at some point before. It had nothing to do with Whitnits' beef.
Turgeon had also complained earlier to league about something or other that he referenced and he is very disturbed by it after 34 years of coaching.
Suffice to say they don't like each other.
Using his grandmother to get sympathy points....that's the way I took it. Juwan is a POS, he fits right in with that douchy fan base.
I did not see him "Charging" at him. Boo fucking hoo!
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There are WAY too many mouthbreathing Hoosiers in there.
I noticed the masks being used as chinstraps everytime the camera panned to the crowd yelling and screaming.
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I noticed the masks being used as chinstraps everytime the camera panned to the crowd yelling and screaming.
trying to infect the top 8 teams so Indiana can get a bid to the NCAAs
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Was it really worth the fives of dollars #B1G earned to have aerosols sprayed on all the teams one week before the tourney?
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Was it really worth the fives of dollars #B1G earned to have aerosols sprayed on all the teams one week before the tourney?
Maybe that's why Kansas got a "positive". Bill Self is a tricky dude
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OSU trying to give this one away, too.
At Ohio State, basketball season is the time wasted after the CFP and before the spring football game. At least that's my mindset.
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I was traveling and just got home and caught up on here. Was Turgeon talking about the scandals involving Juwan’s Fab 5 Michigan team in response to Dickinson mouthing off about recruiting him?
I liked listening to Juwan early on last year. He kept it real. Then they got punked at Illinois when we knew all their plays before we ran them. That was kind of our “hey we might be pretty good this year” coming out party. In the press conference after the game someone asked him about the Illini calling his plays and Juwan played it off like BS but was unconvincing.
He seems like he’d be fun to play for and his recruiting backs that up, but listening to him he doesn’t even use coachspeak...he uses playerspeak. It’s like Damonte doing postgame interviews on Prozac. Ayo Dosunmu has more insightful thoughts regarding strategy and lineups.
Michigan really seemed to move the ball better and open up the game once Howard was ejected and Martelli took over. In case anyone was wondering, that’s why a guy like Howard has a fossil like Martelli around in the first place.
I’ve never found anything I don’t like about Turgeon other than he beats us too much.
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Using his grandmother to get sympathy points....that's the way I took it. Juwan is a POS, he fits right in with that douchy fan base.
I did not see him "Charging" at him. Boo fucking hoo!
Juwan Coward
won't play a full big ten season
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Michigan is on a roll but they’ll get exposed
AOTC
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Michigan is such a weird concept right now.
Juwan is almost destined to fail, just based on available his successful recruitment of talent.
Or he might kill Mark Turgeon
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Rutgers is the class of the league IMO. They lost to OSU with both Johnson and Young out of the game the last 8 minutes. They play the best D in the conference and Harper Jr. Is a lottery pick.
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Dakich claims Michigan is best team in BIG.
Wrong
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We're cutting through the bottom half of the conference like a hot knife through butter!
Damn right you were
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Archie gonna fuck around and get fired.
Boom
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He is whiney little bitch.
His sons are little bitches.
The younger one is gong to be good.
The older one sucksass.
They will be mediocre next year again, but are a handful right now.
Nailed it
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Michigan is good. Real good. I think Wagner is going to be a nightmare. We have nobody really to guard him as we are too small at the 3/4 and he can do a lot of things.
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I agree that the B1G clearly lacks an elite level team.
Just kidding, Illinois is in the B1G!
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Haven’t watched Michigan much but pretty sure Livers and Brooks and Wagner will give us problems.
🤦🏻
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Michigan is the real deal
Oops BTC again
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Sven are you drunk?
Wellll?
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I don't drink much anymore
Has there been an uptick since first of March?
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I hate to admit it, but Michigan is a lot better than Illinois.
Cringe
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Michigan is best team in league by large margin.
I don't see us having stepped up much really without Ayo. Really sloppy. We will not beat anybody decent without Ayo. For all the good things Curbelo has done he has 11 TOs in last two games.
Oof
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Not sure how MSU gets in unless they make a run in BTT.
They are going to lose 2 of next 3 most likely. 8-12 and 14- 12 is not an NCAA team in any universe.
But there is always the refs giving them one of the UM games.
NO NO......YES
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The Illinois team at end of year last year would beat this Illinois team more often than not. More consistent execution on both sides of ball and more prepared and tougher mentally and physically each night.
What a difference a couple of weeks make
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The BTT will be must see TV, from start to finish. There will be upsets!
Yes it was...but also kinda chalky
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Purdue up by 10 over Indiana with 9 min left.
Game over.
Indiana can't score 10 points in 9 minutes.
Money
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Yeah these tourneys are a nice money grab with some exciting matchups but a two week quarantine heading into the NCAA tourney might have been a good idea. Guess we will see
Hoping I was wrong about this because the tournament was fucking awesome and I was just mostly afraid we’d lose anyways
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I read an article that the Big10 had the strictest Covid standards. Dunno if it's true.
And the most lenient scheduling rules
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It would actually be fitting karma if the 'rona hit Michigan and kept them out of the tournament.
I mean I’d be ok with this versus the darlings of the B1G losing to LSU in the round of 32
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Cringe
Yeah, that didn’t age well.
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