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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Custard on August 08, 2024, 10:23:01 PM
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Kinda bored tonight and thought I’d save Tempo the effort come September.
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This thread has a lot of potential.
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No one knows this yet.
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No one knows this yet.
We all know you are hoping it is true.
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I want the Bears to be a perennial Super Bowl contender, so I’d prefer he’s good. But don’t let me end your uninterrupted streak of being right about EVERYTHING!
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I have a good track record. I really wish I remembered your line about being AOTC more often than not.
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Caleb gets an A- from me today (guessing he’s done). A couple of really outstanding plays. Should have had better numbers but had a couple drops. Seemed indecisive on a few throws, and got bailed out by a penalty big time on a bad decision in their own red zone, but overall very encouraging. Definitely saw some of the play-making ability.
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I have a good track record. I really wish I remembered your line about being AOTC more often than not.
That’s pretty much it.
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Bears in the Super Bowl except that Eberlose will hold them back.
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Not even close to crowning his ass yet
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Is there a team that can hang with the Bears?! 17-0 all blowouts!
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Not even close to crowning his ass yet
Only one quarter, but I saw enough to be pretty encouraged.
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Only one quarter, but I saw enough to be pretty encouraged.
He’s the real deal…
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Starting to look like maybe they pulled another Trubiskey/Mahomes thing here and should have gotten Daniels.
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Bears in the Super Bowl except that Eberlose will hold them back.
Not very AOTC.
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The inaccuracy on the 5 yard passes to the flat is very concerning. He's not even close on those.
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Not very AOTC.
Couldn't overcome Everlose
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9 games in. I'll give him some time. Johnston kept harping on timing plays being out of whack. I'll just presume they are not working hard since it is Eberlose Country Club. For now.
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Couldn't overcome Everlose
Or themselves.
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Or themselves.
Or Waldron or Poles
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he has shown some flashes of brilliance but a majority of the time has looked like dog shit
not really expecting much from a rookie with this line but man, not much to get excited about at the moment
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I was promised an immediate quarterback upgrade.
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I was promised an immediate quarterback upgrade.
Less turnovers. You think this is bad now, imagine if Fields was the QB fumbling all the time..
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It was interesting to hear Moose Johnson and the Fox guys on the post game. No one appears to think Waldron is doing anyone any favors with his schemes when the OL is so bad. It would be nice if Waldron schemed plays and Williams figured out that he has 2 seconds to get rid of the ball.
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Less turnovers. You think this is bad now, imagine if Fields was the QB fumbling all the time..
Not if you include turnover on downs.
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The offense was far from glorious last year, but it was definitely better than this shit. We haven’t even played the good teams yet. Talk all the shit you want, but DJ Moore and Cole Kmet both had career years last year. This morning I saw them on milk cartons at the grocery store.
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Not if you include turnover on downs.
And it gets way worse when you factor in punts. 23 straight possessions without a TD. You’d almost have to try to be that bad.
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Not if you include turnover on downs.
Hilarious
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The offense was far from glorious last year, but it was definitely better than this shit. We haven’t even played the good teams yet. Talk all the shit you want, but DJ Moore and Cole Kmet both had career years last year. This morning I saw them on milk cartons at the grocery store.
DJ Moore sucks.
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And it gets way worse when you factor in punts. 23 straight possessions without a TD. You’d almost have to try to be that bad.
Your guys Poles and Eberlose!
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Caleb Williams QBR through 9 games is 38.4
Only players worse are Gardner Minshew, Will Levis and Deshaun Watson
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Schefter thinks the Bears are discussing the possibility of benching Caleb.
EDIT: Caleb still the starting QB.
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Schefter thinks the Bears are discussing the possibility of benching Caleb.
That would be the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen. They need to fire this coaching staff immediately…
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Schefter needs to be benched, what a moron
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Caleb isn’t getting benched, nor should he; but Waddle and Silvy reported some Bears veterans want Bagent to start. Judge Judy, I would think that would give you a mini-boner?
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He 100% should be benched if for no other reason but to keep your #1 pick from getting killed/ruined
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It’s not happening, nor should it. Not with this many games left. And Caleb would never allow it, he’d risk losing respect in the locker room.
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If your record sucks and there’s one or two games left you can make up some fake injury, but you can’t bench him for his own safety right now that would be absurd.
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Taking 9-10 sacks in blowouts to bad teams is absurd. Tearing an ACL or completely ruining his confidence for meaningless games is absurd. He’s a sitting duck back there.
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And custard says women don’t know football
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He is PART of the problem. Troy Aikman would like to have his rookie season back
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In any other industry you’d protect your massive investment from risk when there is very little reward to be had. Of course we can’t expect the Bears to make practical decisions.
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In any other industry you’d protect your massive investment from risk when there is very little reward to be had. Of course we can’t expect the Bears to make practical decisions.
Any other industry is not NFL football
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An alpha franchise quarterback is not taking a seat willingly to preserve himself. It sends a bad message to the rest of the team.
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The only acceptable response in that situation from Caleb would be to go straight to the press and say I do not willingly accept this, and/or I request a trade.
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The only acceptable response in that situation from Caleb would be to go straight to the press and say I do not willingly accept this, and/or I request a trade.
That’s exactly what Bryce Young should’ve done…
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If you want to protect your young quarterback you don’t make him and your franchise look like pussies and sit him; here’s what you do instead:
• RUN THE FOOTBALL
• Run more 2 TE sets, less 3 WR
• Run more 2 back sets/using Roschon or bring back Blasingame
• Move the pocket, you’ve got a mobile quarterback
• Run more quick game/slants
• Run more bootlegs
There are ways to better protect your quarterback other than placing him in bubble wrap. Benching him for his safety makes everyone look bad. And you’ve probably damaged his confidence.
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That’s exactly what Bryce Young should’ve done…
They benched him because he was terrible and getting worse. Not for his well being. They had no choice. He had twice as many games under his belt as Caleb.
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If you bench Caleb now you’re either telling your team he sucks or you’re giving up on them. Both messages are for losers.
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Bruce Young was benched because the veterans were on the verge of revolt. Different scenario. For now.
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who's the OC now, I don't have time to goggle
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who's the OC now, I don't have time to goggle
I think it's a black dude from the Sean McVey tree. Tempo is still cumming.
As usual, the Bears made the wrong decision and hired the wrong dude.
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I think it's a black dude from the Sean McVey tree. Tempo is still cumming.
As usual, the Bears made the wrong decision and hired the wrong dude.
LOL they are really good at that, maybe they should try the Costanza method sometime
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Tempo, I've read that the receivers don't want to run slant patterns. Don't ask me where I saw it....
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They benched him because he was terrible and getting worse. Not for his well being. They had no choice. He had twice as many games under his belt as Caleb.
No, we're on the same page. You’re trying to say I disagree with you but I don’t. If I were Bryce Young, and they benched me like they did, I would’ve demanded a trade…
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I think it's a black dude from the Sean McVey tree. Tempo is still cumming.
As usual, the Bears made the wrong decision and hired the wrong dude.
Weird, but ok.
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Tempo, I've read that the receivers don't want to run slant patterns. Don't ask me where I saw it....
Ok, I won’t.
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No, we're on the same page. You’re trying to say I disagree with you but I don’t. If I were Bryce Young, and they benched me like they did, I would’ve demanded a trade…
I wasn’t sure. You had the … in there…
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Ok, I won’t.
Good. Because I do not remember.
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The problem with him demanding a trade is that no one will give you anything for him when he’s a total mess as he was. So you’re trading a guy you gave away the world for for at best a 7th round pick or cutting him. If Caleb demanded a trade now, he still has value.
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Mark Grote played some clips that give the impression that Waldron was instructed to kiss Caleb’s butt and that didn’t go over well with some vets.
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Mark Grote played some clips that give the impression that Waldron was instructed to kiss Caleb’s butt and that didn’t go over well with some vets.
As well it should not. What pray tell did Williams want Waldron to do that Waldron did not want to do?
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I’m not full-throat panicked, but the narrative is building. Let’s hope it’s much ado about nothing. Maybe Spark can come by and reassure us.
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/44718082/continue/play
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Nm
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I’m not full-throat panicked, but the narrative is building. Let’s hope it’s much ado about nothing. Maybe Spark can come by and reassure us.
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/44718082/continue/play
Spark too busy undoubtedly smoking Hamas cock. Fuck that piece of lying shit.
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A lot to chew on after yesterday’s headlines (that actually didn’t really reveal anything that new). Tons of blame to go around:
Trace Armstrong: I’ll start with the man who was the Bears “shadow president” the last two plus years. This guy held way too much influence within the organization, and as a former Bear I’m sure George loved him and thought he could help turn the franchise around. Armstrong is the primary reason we ended up with Flus and Waldron, and probably even Poles.
Flus and Waldron: Sure, there were some definite red flags with Flus, but with the defense looking poised to be a top unit and Justin Fields to blame for the offense, you could make a case to keep him. And again, I’d be shocked if George didn’t mandate Flus stay. Can’t see George paying a coaching staff for 3 years not to coach when they were “making progress.” Waldron (I’d blame Armstrong for this mostly) was a complete disaster. How did this guy survive two years under a HOF coach like Pete Carroll? Even if he wasn’t the main reason, he “oversaw” Geno’s turnaround. He wasn’t Ben Johnson coming in, but he certainly appeared “qualified” for the job. The coaching on this team last year was completely derelict in every way. I guess it’s not that uncommon that coordinators are inattentive for lack of a more succinct way of putting it. Alex Smith apparently said the same thing happened to him. Could go on for another two paragraphs easily here, but I don’t guess I need to.
Too long, tbc
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Poles: Sure, Poles isn’t as terrible as PAMan likes to paint him out to be, but not bringing in a vet to mentor Caleb was a huge mistake. It was a primary concern of mine going into last season. I didn’t understand going into the season with just Caleb and Bagent at all. This is one of Pole’s bigger mistakes IMO and it was a pretty glaring error from the get go.
Caleb: Yes, the kid was horribly mismanaged, but he needed to go to other coaches for help
If he didn’t know what to look for when watching film. He should have started with Waldron and Flus. What the hell were these guys doing last year? The negligence is criminal. There are zero excuses for Caleb this year. He’s got everything he could possibly ask for; time for him to take a significant leap forward and look like the best QB in his class.
I don’t blame Caleb’s dad for having reservations about Chicago. Sure, I said a case could be made to keep Flus, but I also said if they were drafting a QB they should change head coaches. Credit to Caleb for not wanting to “nuke the city.”
Flus: No doubt PAMan will claim AOTC on Flus but this is a guy who was out on Flus like two games in. I try to be objective and judge a guy by what I actually know and see on the field. Most of my concerns with Flus were of the game management variety. Coaches usually get better with that with experience. He was supposed to be the “work them hard and hold them accountable guy,” and he was anything but that, particularly last year.
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Outside of actively considering ways out of Chicago, I don’t think any news was “broken” yesterday. Cowherd’s comments proved to be 100% accurate. PAMan, you should write Cowherd a letter apologizing.
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Could have easily written more, but I’ll wait to respond to other comments should there be any.
I think Caleb will be fine, maybe even really damn good, but I’d have probably traded the pick. Especially when Poles knew they were looking for ways out of Chicago. Although, I think that can be argued either way (Poles moving on, or sticking to his guns on Caleb). Seems like they possibly didn’t do their due diligence on Jayden Daniels. TBH though, personally I was worried about his slight build.
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What was Cowherd's comment? That the guy who I said they should not pick after the ND game was the guy they shouldn't pick number 1?
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There is an 'excuse' for Caleb this year - basically it is his rookie season again. New coaches, new offense, new focus on fundamentals, new film studies (since last year's were non-existent), new (hopefully competent) line. Know you do not want to hear it, because you wrongly claimed last year that he was walking into the best situation for a number 1 pick, but he is starting from scratch.
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Oh, and I love that you still maintain there were reasons or arguments for bringing back Eberlose. No, there weren't. He fucking sucked and was useless as HC.
Tempo: Wrong on the Bears. Wrong on America.
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What was Cowherd's comment? That the guy who I said they should not pick after the ND game was the guy they shouldn't pick number 1?
That the Williams camp didn’t want to go to Chicago. IIRC you pushed back on Cowherd’s comments. Or maybe it was Spark. Or both of you?
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Oh, and I love that you still maintain there were reasons or arguments for bringing back Eberlose. No, there weren't. He fucking sucked and was useless as HC.
Tempo: Wrong on the Bears. Wrong on America.
Just because you hold an opinion and think super highly of your own opinions doesn’t mean it’s the only valid opinion. There was no “consensus” on Eberflus. There were plenty of people who thought he’d earned a 3rd year. Your opinion doesn’t change that.
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Just because you hold an opinion and think super highly of your own opinions doesn’t mean it’s the only valid opinion. There was no “consensus” on Eberflus. There were plenty of people who thought he’d earned a 3rd year. Your opinion doesn’t change that.
They were wrong. Maybe you should stop reading the Twotter. Lot of morons opining obviously if you are still peddling this crap..
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You would be far better off and educated by reading my work here than by reading The Twotter, Tempo.
If I were on The TokTik I would be one of them Influencers. You get it all here without giving the Commie Chinese access to your banking records
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Kurt Warner says there was blame to go around and that Caleb shares in that blame. Says you learn to watch tape in college. He pretty much echoed Emmanuel Acho’s thoughts (that Caleb as the #1 pick has the ear of virtually anyone he wants). Said there were some clear communication issues with the bears.
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Kurt Warner says there was blame to go around and that Caleb shares in that blame. Says you learn to watch tape in college. He pretty much echoed Emmanuel Acho’s thoughts (that Caleb as the #1 pick has the ear of virtually anyone he wants). Said there were some clear communication issues with the bears.
Than what's Fields' excuse? He can't read a defense worth a shit and has been in the league for 4 years.
Tempo: Wrong on Fields. Wrong on America.
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This is fucking lame. This strikes me as a Matt Eberlfus like decision. They've had a week to craft a response. Address this now so you don't look timid, and just get it out of the way. Quash this early and it'll go nowhere.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/as-bears-otas-start-caleb-williams-isnt-meeting-with-reporters
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This is fucking lame. This strikes me as a Matt Eberlfus like decision. They've had a week to craft a response. Address this now so you don't look timid, and just get it out of the way. Quash this early and it'll go nowhere.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/as-bears-otas-start-caleb-williams-isnt-meeting-with-reporters
Thank you for the link! Yes, we need a presser as I need something else besides Aaron Rodgers to write and talk about. Please talk Caleb!
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" .... it'll go nowhere "
;D
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" .... it'll go nowhere "
;D
Did you have a point?
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man I wish I had so little going on in my life that I gave a shit whether the bears QB was having press conferences or not during some meaningless off season workouts
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man I wish I had so little going on in my life that I gave a shit whether the bears QB was having press conferences or not during some meaningless off season workouts
Fields would have!!! Why don’t you guys care?! This is important stuff!
*violently pounds the table
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Did you have a point?
Not really, other than I might say 'I haven't read the book' when/if somebody sees the need to ask a question.
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man I wish I had so little going on in my life that I gave a shit whether the bears QB was having press conferences or not during some meaningless off season workouts
No you don’t
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https://x.com/chgo_bears/status/1925355416956911758
“He’s throwing off his back foot, running out of bounds, making weird sidearmed throws to no one. He’s overshooting receivers. It was not a good day for 18. I was hoping the difference with Ben Johnson would be immediate, there’s a lot way to go here.”
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"In fairness, though, this is only his second true practice in a new offense and scheme. This will take time and there were plenty of positives to move forward with."
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"In fairness, though, this is only his second true practice in a new offense and scheme. This will take time and there were plenty of positives to move forward with."
Can't have any positives or else Tempo can't claim he was right.
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Can't have any positives or else Tempo can't claim he was right.
Yabut, that was about Fields.
And it came after ....
"While there was plenty of good, there was also some bad misses. Fields whiffed on a throw to a wide-open Smartt late in practice that could have gone for a huge gain. He also seemed hesitant to throw the football at times, and was late with his delivery on others.
These are problems that have plagued Fields throughout his career both in Chicago and Pittsburgh."
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"In fairness, though, this is only his second true practice in a new offense and scheme. This will take time and there were plenty of positives to move forward with."
Oh, we’re concerned about fairness, now?! How convenient! Supposedly Johnson has been working with him for two months.
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My guess is Caleb will be fine (eventually). All I’m doing is applying the same “objectivity” that was applied to Fields. No one was cutting him any slack when he was in his first year in a system with the worst offensive talent in the league. And piss poor coaching to boot.
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My guess is Caleb will be fine (eventually). All I’m doing is applying the same “objectivity” that was applied to Fields. No one was cutting him any slack when he was in his first year in a system with the worst offensive talent in the league. And piss poor coaching to boot.
Yes, we did. But he was a whiny bitch who didn't want to be coached despite needing to be. You act like last year in Pittsburgh never happened. There is a reason why he sat behind Washed Up Russ and is on his third team in three years.
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Tempo being butthurt about Fields after 4 years is spectacular.
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Yes, we did. But he was a whiny bitch who didn't want to be coached despite needing to be. You act like last year in Pittsburgh never happened. There is a reason why he sat behind Washed Up Russ and is on his third team in three years.
PAMan says this completely ignoring that Pittsburgh wanted to bring Fields back and letting Russell walk. It takes an astonishing level of hypocrisy or awareness to have these takes.
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Tempo being butthurt about Fields after 4 years is spectacular.
Not really butthurt. Just expect you to apply the same standards to Caleb you held Justin to. Unsuccessfully, it seems. Tempo34, exposing ThePAMan’s hypocrisy since 2019.
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Words that never came out of ThePAMan’s mouth. “(Fields) is basically a rookie again.”
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PAMan says this completely ignoring that Pittsburgh wanted to bring Fields back and letting Russell walk. It takes an astonishing level of hypocrisy or awareness to have these takes.
So you are saying he did not get benched for Washed Up Russ and they refused to let Fields play?
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Not really butthurt. Just expect you to apply the same standards to Caleb you held Justin to. Unsuccessfully, it seems. Tempo34, exposing ThePAMan’s hypocrisy since 2019.
No you are butthurt because you have been exposed for being clueless about NFL football
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Words that never came out of ThePAMan’s mouth. “(Fields) is basically a rookie again.”
He was last year. He still sucked
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And Pittsburgh only made Fields an offer after they talked to Washed Up Russ and Broken Down Rodgers.
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So you are saying he did not get benched for Washed Up Russ and they refused to let Fields play?
He got benched for a future HOFer who was brought in to be the starter before they traded for Fields. Again, wanting to bring back Fields and not Russ would seem to confirm they think they played the situation incorrectly.
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He was last year. He still sucked
He didn’t “suck.”
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He got benched for a future HOFer who was brought in to be the starter before they traded for Fields. Again, wanting to bring back Fields and not Russ would seem to confirm they think they played the situation incorrectly.
LOL. Delusional. They didn't even play him when Russ was flailing.
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LOL. Delusional. They didn't even play him when Russ was flailing.
And yet they were wanting to bring him back. They hung with Russ because of his HOF pedigree.
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Pittsburgh wouldn't guarantee more than a year. They needed a qb but that's what they thought of Fields.
He left for the money. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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And yet they were wanting to bring him back. They hung with Russ because of his HOF pedigree.
LOL. Hilarious.
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Pittsburgh wouldn't guarantee more than a year. They needed a qb but that's what they thought of Fields.
He left for the money. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Yep. And he was not first on their list either.
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Pittsburgh wouldn't guarantee more than a year. They needed a qb but that's what they thought of Fields.
He left for the money. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I don’t think that’s correct. I think I remember Pittsburgh offered him two years, but the Jets offered him a little more money, and I don’t think he wanted to return to Pittsburgh anyway.
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Yep. And he was not first on their list either.
Who was?
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Pittsburgh wouldn't guarantee more than a year.
I guess you could say you were somewhat correct, but two year deal is two year deal. Either way, if he stinks this year the Jets will likely move on anyway.
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LOL. Hilarious.
It’s factual. If they thought Fields was so terrible they wouldn’t have offered him a deal to come back as the starter. This isn’t complex problem solving.
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Yep. And he was not first on their list either.
Don’t overlook this please. I don’t remember who option “#1” was.
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I guess you could say you were somewhat correct, but two year deal is two year deal. Either way, if he stinks this year the Jets will likely move on anyway.
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And if the Jets "move on anyway" if he stinks they'll still be paying him year 2 guaranteed money.
Pittsburgh needed a qb for this year and they guaranteed him 2025 money but not 2026 money. Fields knew he was probably only a 1 year bridge qb in Pittsburgh, so he left.
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Who was?
Russ and Rodgers
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It’s factual. If they thought Fields was so terrible they wouldn’t have offered him a deal to come back as the starter. This isn’t complex problem solving.
And yet you are flailing. They talked to Russ and Rodgers before Fields.
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And if the Jets "move on anyway" if he stinks they'll still be paying him year 2 guaranteed money.
Pittsburgh needed a qb for this year and they guaranteed him 2025 money but not 2026 money. Fields knew he was probably only a 1 year bridge qb in Pittsburgh, so he left.
If even that. They weren't even guaranteeing that whiny bitch anything for this year.
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He didn’t “suck.”
Denial is my favorite trait in you. Empowers you to take any shitty position you want.
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If he didn't suck, why didn't he play down the stretch when Washed Up Russ was sucking ass? C'mon, dude.
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"A lot can happen throughout an offseason and training camp, but Fields has never been looked at as an accomplished passer. If he isn't able to make the simple throws, he will experience a lot of struggles in New York.
Fields has all of the talent in the world when it comes to his versatility, but quarterbacks in the NFL need to make throws on a consistent basis. It can't be looked at as comforting for New York if the former Steelers signal-caller is missing simple targets in the middle of May. Accuracy will be crucial for Fields if he wants to take the next step in his career, and it's possible that he is already showing some unfortunate flaws as he works out with his new team."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/football/steelers-may-have-dodged-a-bullet-as-jets-could-absolutely-be-concerned-early-on-with-justin-fields/ar-AA1FqdD9?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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And if the Jets "move on anyway" if he stinks they'll still be paying him year 2 guaranteed money.
Pittsburgh needed a qb for this year and they guaranteed him 2025 money but not 2026 money. Fields knew he was probably only a 1 year bridge qb in Pittsburgh, so he left.
Why would it be any different in NY? He didn’t get a long-term deal with either. But either way, he was offered a two year deal. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t have cut bait year 2 if it didn’t work.
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If he didn't suck, why didn't he play down the stretch when Washed Up Russ was sucking ass? C'mon, dude.
That’s a question for Mike Tomlin. If Mike Tomlin “thought he sucked,” they wouldn’t have offered him a contract to return as the starter. It’s pretty basic logic.
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That’s a question for Mike Tomlin. If Mike Tomlin “thought he sucked,” they wouldn’t have offered him a contract to return as the starter. It’s pretty basic logic.
He was their third choice. For one year.
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"A lot can happen throughout an offseason and training camp, but Fields has never been looked at as an accomplished passer. If he isn't able to make the simple throws, he will experience a lot of struggles in New York.
Fields has all of the talent in the world when it comes to his versatility, but quarterbacks in the NFL need to make throws on a consistent basis. It can't be looked at as comforting for New York if the former Steelers signal-caller is missing simple targets in the middle of May. Accuracy will be crucial for Fields if he wants to take the next step in his career, and it's possible that he is already showing some unfortunate flaws as he works out with his new team."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/football/steelers-may-have-dodged-a-bullet-as-jets-could-absolutely-be-concerned-early-on-with-justin-fields/ar-AA1FqdD9?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Steelers fan writes Justin Fields hit piece after he leaves Steelers. Shocking! PAMan would agree!
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Denial is my favorite trait in you. Empowers you to take any shitty position you want.
What a clueless fucking comment. Again, why would Pittsburgh offer him a deal to be the starter if they thought “he sucked?”
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Steelers fan writes Justin Fields hit piece after he leaves Steelers. Shocking! PAMan would agree!
I didn't see the practice. Not shocked by the reports from New York however.
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What a clueless fucking comment. Again, why would Pittsburgh offer him a deal to be the starter if they thought “he sucked?”
Because Russ and Rodgers did not agree to terms with them..
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Russ and Rodgers
Hahahahahahahaha doubtful. If they wanted Russ back he’d almost certainly be there still. Show me a link where it says they offered Russ a deal to return.
Rodgers, even more laughable. They offered Fields a contract before Rodgers was even let go from NY. Rodgers is a fallback option. He’s all that’s left. That’s why they are pursuing him. If they wanted him so badly (first option!) they’d have probably signed a deal weeks ago.
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I didn't see the practice. Not shocked by the reports from New York however.
If you were in my shoes, you’d no doubt point out it was a pro-Steelers hit piece.
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Because Russ and Rodgers did not agree to terms with them..
Wut.
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Because Russ and Rodgers did not agree to terms with them..
Queue the failhorn for ThePAMan AGAIN:
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Why would it be any different in NY? He didn’t get a long-term deal with either. But either way, he was offered a two year deal. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t have cut bait year 2 if it didn’t work.
Again. The NY contract was for $40 million for 2 years. NY guaranteed him $30 million, for some odd reason, but that is $20 million guaranteed for this year and $10 million guaranteed for next year whether he lasts more than a year in NY or not.
Pittsburgh also gave him a 2 year contract but only guaranteed the 1st year, money.
You can say that Pittsburgh wanted Fields to stay and offered him a 2 year contract but Pittsburgh also wasn't going to pony up any guaranteed money other than what they guaranteed for this year. Pittsburgh obviously wanted to be able to cut bait if they had better qb options for next year.
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Never argued otherwise. If NY is unhappy with how it goes this year, I suspect they will cut bait. Regardless, both were “two year deals.” One just offered more money.
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What a clueless fucking comment. Again, why would Pittsburgh offer him a deal to be the starter if they thought “he sucked?”
They needed somebody, anybody, to play the position but they weren't going to overpay for what they thought may be a 1 year bridge qb.
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They needed somebody, anybody, to play the position but they weren't going to overpay for what they thought may be a 1 year bridge qb.
“Anybody,” but they offered the job to Fields first.
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Now did Pittsburgh offer him the job thinking they were getting prime Steve Young? Of course not. But if they thought “he sucked,” they wouldn’t have offered him anything. Let alone 30 million dollars.
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Queue the failhorn for ThePAMan AGAIN:
(https://i.postimg.cc/hGfqbkrg/IMG-1701.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
So they could not agree on money.
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So they could not agree on money.
It says he was not offered a contract. Contract negotiations start with an offer. Not a deal.
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So they could not agree on money.
This is significantly less than the Steelers offered Fields. You’re telling me Russ and the Steelers couldn’t reach a deal with their “first choice?” Spin this one, spinmeister.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kXtXR73Q/IMG-1702.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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It says he was not offered a contract. Contract negotiations start with an offer. Not a deal.
How do you know Russ didn't say I am not taking under x right off the start and the Steeler told him to pound salt? Russ certainly has an inflated sense of his own value.
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This is significantly less than the Steelers offered Fields. You’re telling me Russ and the Steelers couldn’t reach a deal with their “first choice?” Spin this one, spinmeister.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kXtXR73Q/IMG-1702.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Russ wanted big money. The Steeler said forget you and moved on. He then took whatever low ball offer was out there since no one else was interested after that.
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You should know, I’m sure you were part of the negotiations!
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You should know, I’m sure you were part of the negotiations!
I read all that Steeler blogs you sent me last year and now they are in my Goggle Feed.
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Can't believe Tempo has not rushed over here since Williams spoke today after practice and assessed ESPN's reporting!
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“Up and down day” for Caleb at OTAs.
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1929981494950330796?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Well, he's basically a rookie again because "the experts on Twitter" and HQ2 said there was a case for bringing back the Incompetent Eberlose. ThePAMan AOTC was yet again.
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Well, he's basically a rookie again because "the experts on Twitter" and HQ2 said there was a case for bringing back the Incompetent Eberlose. ThePAMan AOTC was yet again.
Yep, “Basically a Rookie Again!”
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Per ThePAMan, Caleb is “basically a rookie again!”
Caleb was set up to fail, folks! He had no shot! Justin Fields on the other hand, how did he not elevate the franchise in year 2?! That should have been a Super Bowl contender!
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Per ThePAMan, Caleb is “basically a rookie again!”
Caleb was set up to fail, folks! He had no shot! Justin Fields on the other hand, how did he not elevate the franchise in year 2?! That should have been a Super Bowl contender!
He had one year with guys one foot out the door.
Fields had 3 years here and one in Pittsburgh. He said he didn't want to be coached.
There are similarities and differences.
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Two sides of the same coin, maybe?
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Fields was never “basically a rookie again” year 2 despite being in a far worse situation.
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Two sides of the same coin, maybe?
Remains to be seen. But always possible.
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“Caleb Williams not the dealbreaker, but maybe not the golden ticket people thought it was (being rated 4th among last years class by people in the NFL).”
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(https://i.postimg.cc/G28dzds7/IMG-2905.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ2w1r5M)
“Caleb Williams not the dealbreaker, but maybe not the golden ticket people thought it was (being rated 4th among last years class by people in the NFL).”
Saying Poles sucks without saying Poles sucks. The PAThey outside the door already told you...
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“I report, you decide…!”
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“I report, you decide…!”
The head coach of Your Chicago Bears said he was a rookie again. Apparently he realizes how awful Eberlose and Waldron et al. were. The PAHimHerXeXem WAOTC (Way Ahead of The Curve) on that call....
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The head coach of Your Chicago Bears said he was a rookie again. Apparently he realizes how awful Eberlose and Waldron et al. were. The PAHimHerXeXem WAOTC (Way Ahead of The Curve) on that call....
But 😍Getsy😍 was great.
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I probably said 8x thst id you were going to go with a QB change, they should change coaches.
I had a small amount of hope that Waldron would be more up to the task, but Caleb poisoned that relationship by going in with a bad attitude before getting to know Waldron. It’s documented.
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I probably said 8x thst id you were going to go with a QB change, they should change coaches.
I had a small amount of hope that Waldron would be more up to the task, but Caleb poisoned that relationship by going in with a bad attitude before getting to know Waldron. It’s documented.
LOL that he poisoned it. It apparently was poisoned by Seahawks players who MF'd Your Guy Waldron... Poles allowing Eberlose another year AND hire Waldron was another Poles Bad Move. Will see if having Johnson do personnel stuff to is a good thing. Hard not to be.
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but Caleb poisoned that relationship by going in with a bad attitude before getting to know Waldron. It’s documented.
I shall clear up this bit of misinformation for all concerned.
From the available and credible reporting, there’s no indication that Williams intentionally sowed discord. Instead, evidence points to a strained and dysfunctional dynamic, but one that appears largely circumstantial and perhaps mutual in nature.
What actually happened, according to reliable reports?
1. Williams sought his own film study setup
Multiple reports—including one from Sports Illustrated—indicate that Williams had to “build his own film study room” because Waldron was reportedly not reviewing game film with him. This suggests a breakdown in coaching engagement, rather than an act by Williams to disrupt things.
Similarly, another outlet noted that Williams had to “seek outside resources to review film” before Waldron’s firing, reinforcing the idea of disconnect—not sabotage.
2. Pre-draft misgivings and friction
Reports from SportsMockery (dated August 2025) claim that Williams didn’t like Waldron even before being drafted. The quarterback reportedly did extensive pre-draft research and gathered “red flags” about how coach and QB personalities might mesh.
This wasn’t a deliberate attempt to poison the relationship; rather, it seems Williams was assessing his prospective team and simply had reservations.
3. Efforts to avoid being drafted by the Bears
According to People and TalkSport, Williams and his father actively sought ways to avoid being drafted by the Bears, citing their poor track record in developing quarterbacks. The father even explored legal options and alternative leagues like the UFL to keep Caleb away from Chicago.
Again, this speaks to pre-existing concerns—not an intentional move to sabotage Waldron, but more an attempt at career preservation.
4. Former head coach Eberflus pushes back
Matt Eberflus publicly addressed the film-study controversy in June 2025, stating that “we always had daily, coached film sessions… all through the entire year.” His comments suggest he believed there was organized support, even if Williams didn’t experience it.
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LOL that he poisoned it. It apparently was poisoned by Seahawks players who MF'd Your Guy Waldron... Poles allowing Eberlose another year AND hire Waldron was another Poles Bad Move. Will see if having Johnson do personnel stuff to is a good thing. Hard not to be.
He did “investigattive work” on Waldron and went in with the attitude that it wasn’t going to work. That’s poisoning the well. It’s documented.
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Hal apparently disagrees
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And Poles reportedly told him, “we’re taking you,” so maybe he talked himself into accepting it because he didn’t really have a choice. Seems that maybe “the haul” wasn’t really out there to be had anyway. NFL teams are getting more cautious about investing a lot into quarterback acquisitions since Bryce Young and Kirk Cousins.
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And Poles reportedly told him, “we’re taking you,” so maybe he talked himself into accepting it because he didn’t really have a choice. Seems that maybe “the haul” wasn’t really out there to be had anyway. NFL teams are getting more cautious about investing a lot into quarterback acquisitions since Bryce Young and Kirk Cousins.
And how could I forget DeSean Watson!
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We can either trust you, a guy who has been behind the curve since The COVID, or trust Hal9000. This really is not a tough decision....
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Hal apparently disagrees
Apparently.
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We can either trust you, a guy who has been behind the curve since The COVID, or trust Hal9000. This really is not a tough decision....
You’ve been extremely critical of AI when I’ve cited it.
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You’ve been extremely critical of AI when I’ve cited it.
Hal9000 seems to have picked its spots.
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Former Bucs quarterback Shaun King said that he has it from someone close to the situation that Caleb called several plays wrong on Monday night and it’s been an ongoing problem. Looking forward to PAMan’s upcoming rant about how he has to get his head into the playbook.
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"...... someone close to the situation ..."
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"...... someone close to the situation ..."
Do you think Shaun King would say who?
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"...... someone close to the situation ..."
Is it that hard to believe?
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Who is the "someone" ?
A wr ?
Did Williams not call an audible when "someone" thought he should ?
Did Williams call an audible when "someone" thought he should ?
Any other rookie qb's who wear playing calling wristbands ? How about veterans ?
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Who is the "someone" ?
A wr ?
Did Williams not call an audible when "someone" thought he should ?
Did Williams call an audible when "someone" thought he should ?
Any other rookie qb's who wear playing calling wristbands ? How about veterans ?
It’s been reported by more than a couple of sources that Caleb hasn’t put in the preparation needed to be successful at a high level. King said he was told by someone in the know that Caleb called several plays wrong and that it’s been an issue. Wearing a wristband is fine. Switching to one several games into the season would seem to imply there was an issue.
Less convincing than the case Donald Trump is a sexual predator, I’ll give you that: but plenty of meat on that bone.
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It’s been reported by more than a couple of sources that Caleb hasn’t put in the preparation needed to be successful at a high level. King said he was told by someone in the know that Caleb called several plays wrong and that it’s been an issue. Wearing a wristband is fine. Switching to one several games into the season would seem to imply there was an issue.
Less convincing than the case Donald Trump is a sexual predator, I’ll give you that: but plenty of meat on that bone.
He called the wrong plays means nothing without the context. Maybe the writer explained it somewhere. Maybe not.
The OC got fired a few games after Williams put the wristband on. The screenshot may be more critical of the guy who got fired than of Williams.
Let's put a wristband on the dyslexic QB's wrist so he can read the plays. Yeah, that's it. Lol
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It’s been reported by more than a couple of sources that Caleb hasn’t put in the preparation needed to be successful at a high level. King said he was told by someone in the know that Caleb called several plays wrong and that it’s been an issue. Wearing a wristband is fine. Switching to one several games into the season would seem to imply there was an issue.
Less convincing than the case Donald Trump is a sexual predator, I’ll give you that: but plenty of meat on that bone.
A bunch of shit has been said on both sides the past year. I think I’m gonna let this play out a little bit before making any definitive statements… 😉
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Chicago Bears quarterback Caleb Williams holds the NFL record for the highest passing touchdown to interception (TD/INT) ratio for a player's first 1,000 career attempts.
Record Details
TD/INT Ratio: His ratio through his first 1,000 attempts was 3.4 (with 34 passing touchdowns and only 10 interceptions).
Fewest Interceptions: He also holds the NFL record for the fewest interceptions in a player's first 1,000 career passing attempts, with just 12 total interceptions.
Apparently he doesn't suck that bad
would like to see his comp% be better than 2nd worst in the league though... guess there's room for improvement!
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I’m mostly happy with how he’s coming along, but this stat is misleading. His INT rate is low because he wasn’t pushing the ball downfield and he leads the NFL in uncatchable balls (by a big margin) over the last two years. I’d be a lot more impressed if he were fitting it into
tight spots reguarly and among the league leaders in TD passes. He’s not.
Having said that, I’m pretty encouraged with his growth in the intangible areas. Minus the wow throw here and there he’s still got a lot of work to do get where he can be as a passer.
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Ball security has been a surprise plus for him. He came into the NFL college football’s leading fumbler over 3 years.
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I’m fine with him not trying to fit balls in a tight spot this first two years and therefore not having a lot of interceptions. If I were Ben Johnson I’d be telling him to make safe throws and the O line to keep him off his back. Hero ball will lose this team more games that it wins right now. Year two under Johnson with this squad? Yeah I think there will be an expectation for him to take a sizable step forward.
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Yeah as the offense becomes more second nature to him I expect his rhythm and accuracy to improve substantially
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Yeah as the offense becomes more second nature to him I expect his rhythm and accuracy to improve substantially
I'm hoping he's on a Josh Allen type curve with his accuracy.
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I’m fine with him not trying to fit balls in a tight spot this first two years and therefore not having a lot of interceptions. If I were Ben Johnson I’d be telling him to make safe throws and the O line to keep him off his back. Hero ball will lose this team more games that it wins right now. Year two under Johnson with this squad? Yeah I think there will be an expectation for him to take a sizable step forward.
Don’t really disagree. Especially while the team is winning.
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Interesting stats that reinforce my thoughts that Williams is making a crappy (not as horrendous as last year) OL look better than they are....
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47514251/nfl-playoffs-myth-busters-14-teams-stats-trends-2026.
Williams led the NFL with 40 throwaways, which obviously affect completion percentages but aren't necessarily a bad thing. Five of the top seven completion percentage games of his season actually came in Bears losses, while they won nine of his 10 worst. He had the league's second-lowest pressure-to-sack ratio (behind Brock Purdy), his pressure-to-interception ratio was third best, and he threw nine touchdowns when pressured (behind only Justin Herbert's 10) to just one interception. Sure, his completion percentage when pressured was 36.4 and surely drags down the overall number.
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LOL
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LOL
Very on brand!
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I don't believe that Caleb Williams told the Lion's defense to knock it off, that they're allowed to pick up 1st downs and run clock.
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PAMan won’t judge Caleb until there is a 1st team all pro pass blocker at every position.
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PAMan won’t judge Caleb until there is a 1st team all pro pass blocker at every position.
That's completely untrue. I've said he has tons to work on, like accuracy on easy throws. I just understand that the OL is not as good at pass blocking as you claim it is. Since, you know, I acctually watch the games.
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When someone else was QB all I heard about was how it’s the QBs job to elevate the team. Roster talent didn’t seem to matter. Now the talent and coaching is dramatically better, and you make excuses for him at every turn. You make it sound like every incompletion was just an impossible throw (from the guy with the generational arm).
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Your level of criticism and expectations for quarterback play have decreased dramatically.
And that’s not to say Caleb is “bad,” or not getting better, he is; but he’s pretty clearly been deficient in some areas. And you never blame anything on him. It’s always someone elses’ fault. You’re very protective of the quaterback you said would not draft.
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You even went so far as to say this was Caleb’s rookie year. A mantra you’ve stuck with all year. LOL
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When someone else was QB all I heard about was how it’s the QBs job to elevate the team. Roster talent didn’t seem to matter. Now the talent and coaching is dramatically better, and you make excuses for him at every turn. You make it sound like every incompletion was just an impossible throw (from the guy with the generational arm).
LOL.
The guy who hung his hat on the whiny piece of shit Fields is still butthurt.
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https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/pat-mcafee-fernando-mendoza-generational-prospect.html
It has to be true as Pat McAfee says so.
Hopefully he will get his medicals to Tom Brady next week.
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Nope, just exposing your hypocrisy. It’s been a different set of expectations for Caleb since day one. Much lower.
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https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/pat-mcafee-fernando-mendoza-generational-prospect.html
It has to be true as Pat McAfee says so.
Hopefully he will get his medicals to Tom Brady next week.
I’ll bet he doesn’t make them wait for no reason.
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Nope, just exposing your hypocrisy. It’s been a different set of expectations for Caleb since day one. Much lower.
Not true. He doesn't play well enough in a formal system. I do give him credit for his elusiveness and durability after last year's disaster of an OL and coaching staff.
Meanwhile Fields has shown himself to be a complete self-absorbed fraudster hiding behind the Bible and a visor. He was a negative force in the Bear locker room.
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I’ll bet he doesn’t make them wait for no reason.
Hope Fernando Memdoza does not fail Tom Brady!
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I think Mendoza has a chance to be good. Don’t think I’d call him generational. I don’t know much about Moore. They seem to be the best prospects in an average class at the top.
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Not true. He doesn't play well enough in a formal system. I do give him credit for his elusiveness and durability after last year's disaster of an OL and coaching staff.
Meanwhile Fields has shown himself to be a complete self-absorbed fraudster hiding behind the Bible and a visor. He was a negative force in the Bear locker room.
I was going to give a serious thoughtful answer, but decided an LOL was more appropriate.
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No you weren't. You would just continue making excuses for that jackass Fields since you were WRONG about him.
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Let’s see what Caleb does after his first two rookie years, and revisit it.
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Let’s see what Caleb does after his first two rookie years, and revisit it.
That's not how you roll though. But I don't mind. Next year is going to be rough. Expecting a big step back unless Poles overhauls the D and does some work on the OL.
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Hopefully Caleb’s third rookie year is good enough to elevate the squad.
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Hopefully Caleb’s third rookie year is good enough to elevate the squad.
He won't essentially be a rookie next year, per the Bear HC who agreed with the sentiment. ThePAOTCMan won again.
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Don’t be so hard on him. Give him a third rookie year. You already act like any incompletion on a throw with a difficulty level above 5 is a nearly impossible throw.
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Don’t be so hard on him. Give him a third rookie year. You already act like any incompletion on a throw with a difficulty level above 5 is a nearly impossible throw.
Going to need a lot more out of him next year with Poles in charge of revamping the D. Lot of money wasted on the D line. Monty Sweat may be a cap casualty.
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Going to need a lot more out of him next year with Poles in charge of revamping the D. Lot of money wasted on the D line. Monty Sweat may be a cap casualty.
No way in hell we should be paying some (probably all) of these bums what we are!
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Being a GM is easy. That’s why they keep their jobs so long.
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No way in hell we should be paying some (probably all) of these bums what we are!
Which ones specifically?
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Perfect…
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Which ones specifically?
Monty Sweat $25m. Gag. Dayo $8m.
Jarrett has a $7M cap hit? Billings $3.32M?Dexter $1.84M? Williams $3.27?
These guys should be selling hot dogs
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Sweat is fair. Jarrett possibly also fair, but has played better recently and feel like I heard he might not have been “right,” but that could be due to age. Not a great signing. Our run defense went to shit last year once Billings went out. But he and Dexter aren’t paid all that much. I think you’re definitely reaching on those two. But then you’re the same guy who flipped his lid about EQ St. Brown getting 1.1 million on a one year deal, barely above league minimum.
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Again, there are a lot of GMs out there with 90-100% “hit” rates. That’s why the average GM tenure is 35 years.
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Oh wait, 3-5…
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Oh wait, 3-5…
Was going to say.....
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Dayo can probably be put on DA. He wasn’t living up to his contract, but he also got hurt, so I’d give him an Incomplete.
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Was going to say.....
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Seeing a lot of excuses!
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Fire Howie.
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Is this going to go on til the Bears are in a home playoff game ?
That's Saturday, amiright ?
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Fire John Lynch.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43337831/49ers-plan-release-javon-hargrave-not-deebo-samuel-sr
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In the words of Tempo, "LOL"
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Is this going to go on til the Bears are in a home playoff game ?
That's Saturday, amiright ?
This is obviously a rhetorical question.
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PAMan won’t judge Caleb until there is a 1st team all pro pass blocker at every position.
This sounds super familiar.
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This sounds super familiar.
LOL no. Good try though. Do you not think the OL is significantly better than it was in 2022? I’ll hang up and listen.
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It is 100% much, much better - but you did that same thing. It was never fair to criticize Fields, ever, because of something somebody else did.
Also, Caleb has been way (WAY) better than Fields ever was here. He needs to get quite a bit better but he's already a major, major improvement. Surely you agree with that right?
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Wanting a competent offensive line before I judged Fields isn’t “the same thing” as PAMan insisting the line is still inadequate when they are generally regarded as one of the better offensive lines in the league. That’s absurd.
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We went from bottom 5 (or worse) OL to top 5 OL (not to mention massive upgrades literally everywhere else, including coaching), and PAMan is still hesitant to make any judgments until the line is better.
Which I’ve been pretty pleased overall with Caleb. But let’s not act like he’s doing this with the 2022 OL, Luke Getsy, N’Keal Harry, and Byron Pringle.
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I’ve been pretty happy with his development, particularly the second half of the year and the last 4-5 games. Some things to clean up, but the arrow is pointing up. Judy already thinks he’s elite. I wouldn’t go that far. He can do elite things, but I wouldn’t call him elite yet. The last month has been the best month of his career.
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I’ve been pretty happy with his development, particularly the second half of the year and the last 4-5 games. Some things to clean up, but the arrow is pointing up. Judy already thinks he’s elite. I wouldn’t go that far. He can do elite things, but I wouldn’t call him elite yet. The last month has been the best month of his career.
The only QB in the NFL I’m taking ahead of him for a 2 minute drive at the end of a game is probably Josh Allen…
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Spark and Jobu back on the same day. Is this real life?
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Idk but it’s amazing.
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We should all be concerned that Caleb Williams is hanging out with a douche like Pete Crow-Armstrong.
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We should all be concerned that Caleb Williams is hanging out with a douche like Pete Crow-Armstrong.
I saw PCA play in Des Moines
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If PCA played for the Sox would he still be a douche?
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As long as he helps the Bears win the Superbowl, he could hang out with Trump and attend Diddy parties for all I care.
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If PCA played for the Sox would he still be a douche?
Yep
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Yep
But the douche quotient is upped significantly by playing for the Cubs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upMmjtnJqVw