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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3465 on: June 13, 2023, 01:57:34 PM »
If anything blacks owe whites reparations
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3466 on: June 13, 2023, 02:01:30 PM »
Oh, you thought YOUR post was absurdly, mind blowingly stupid?

Hold my beer.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3467 on: June 13, 2023, 02:19:45 PM »
I'm tepid in wanting to read QAnon97's explanation on this one. The "looking at a car accident with fatalities" tepid.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3468 on: June 13, 2023, 02:25:37 PM »
Because he lives in the United States of America, where Chattel Slavery, Jim Crow, and Redlining occurred. You live here, you accept the debts with the benefits. The same sort of reason why I, a retired empty nest person, pays taxes for schools.

The same reason we compensate Indians for past theft of tribal lands, even if our personal direct ancestors had nothing to do with it. My dad had nothing to do with rounding up and detaining Japanese Americans, but he didn't complain when they were compensated.

Realistically, we can't pay full value. Also, unlike affirmative action, reparations should be narrowly targeted to the descendants of actual victims.

We might have stalled long enough that it's too late. There should at least be an honest conversation. Not, my ancestors nothing to do with slavery, and I never discriminated against anyone, so don't look at me.

Direct cash payments are a non-starter for many.  I think that ship has sailed.  We need some “outside the box” thinking that would lead to a honest dialogue, create empathy and build support for repairing the damage.     
https://www.businessinsider.com/personal-finance/ways-pay-reparations-for-slavery-2021-5


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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3469 on: June 13, 2023, 02:43:23 PM »
If anything blacks owe whites reparations

And everyone thought complete stupidity and off the charts awfulness was gone with Dom purged! Well done, ‘97!
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3470 on: June 13, 2023, 02:44:46 PM »
As I said before, your typical poster here is a lot closer to Dom than they are to me and Spark (probably the most liberal posters here).
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3471 on: June 13, 2023, 02:46:06 PM »
Because he lives in the United States of America, where Chattel Slavery, Jim Crow, and Redlining occurred. You live here, you accept the debts with the benefits. The same sort of reason why I, a retired empty nest person, pays taxes for schools.

The same reason we compensate Indians for past theft of tribal lands, even if our personal direct ancestors had nothing to do with it. My dad had nothing to do with rounding up and detaining Japanese Americans, but he didn't complain when they were compensated.

Realistically, we can't pay full value. Also, unlike affirmative action, reparations should be narrowly targeted to the descendants of actual victims.

We might have stalled long enough that it's too late. There should at least be an honest conversation. Not, my ancestors nothing to do with slavery, and I never discriminated against anyone, so don't look at me.

Well said, Ray.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3472 on: June 13, 2023, 02:52:20 PM »
If anything blacks owe whites reparations

Just like the victims owe human traffickers
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3473 on: June 13, 2023, 02:58:52 PM »
As I said before, your typical poster here is a lot closer to Dom than they are to me and Spark (probably the most liberal posters here).

I'm not sure about any of this.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3474 on: June 13, 2023, 02:59:15 PM »
Are the costs of the Civil War to be considered in determining reparations?

Why would we charge the victims the costs of their liberation? Especially when subsequent to their liberation, we systematically denied them fair and equal access to land ownership, education, credit, housing, employment, and so on?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3475 on: June 13, 2023, 03:08:28 PM »
I'm not sure about any of this.

Ok, Boomer.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3476 on: June 13, 2023, 03:10:10 PM »
Are the costs of the Civil War to be considered in determining reparations?

Lol
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3477 on: June 13, 2023, 03:24:33 PM »
Why would we charge the victims the costs of their liberation? Especially when subsequent to their liberation, we systematically denied them fair and equal access to land ownership, education, credit, housing, employment, and so on?

A lot of lives, and money, was spent to free the slaves, no? Just inquiring if you think those "costs" should be factored in at all.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3478 on: June 13, 2023, 03:25:56 PM »
Ok, Boomer.

Actually not a Boomer. But I know how Spark and you love to needlessly grandstand and virtue signal.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #3479 on: June 13, 2023, 03:30:53 PM »
Ok, Boomer.

And I think you proved my point with your comment in the Jasn Attending Games Thread....
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