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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7470 on: May 13, 2025, 12:01:02 PM »
Quote from: Custard on May 11, 2025, 01:16:46 PM
Alum:

The US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, and it’s disproportionately minorities. We need prison reform and to end for-profit prisons!

Also Alum:

Incarcerate these brown men here!

I am not Alum, but I do tend to agree with those points..

The US actually has the 5th highest incarceration rate, but we have the most the most prisoners and the highest known rate of recidivism. Also, Black males are still over represented in prisons and jails..

Due to multiple reforms efforts, all those numbers have improved.

We do still need ongoing  law enforcement and criminal justice reform.

That private for profit prisons suck more is self evident..

Meanwhile, unlawful residents who commit crimes here should face due process of law here. Another self evident fact.

In addition, unlawful residents facing deportation are entitled to due process. Also self evident.
 
ICE agents who attempt to obstruct justice should be detained.

Masked ICE agents who attempt to prevent Congressional oversight of their facilities should also be taken into custody.

The incarceration rate in El Salvador is about 3 times the US rate. I think we can agree their criminal justice system is even more corrupt than ours. They don't even try to hide it.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7471 on: May 13, 2025, 12:10:41 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 13, 2025, 11:21:53 AM
Supporting the fossil fuel magnets and 9/11 enablers means the blood money buys a lot of replacement bike tires

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7472 on: May 13, 2025, 12:48:18 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 13, 2025, 12:10:41 PM
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7473 on: May 13, 2025, 12:57:31 PM »
Bernie had the 2020 nomination locked up until the corporate owned Dems stacked the deck.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7474 on: May 13, 2025, 01:04:38 PM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on May 13, 2025, 12:57:31 PM
Bernie had the 2020 nomination locked up until the corporate owned Dems stacked the deck.

Sorry. That is factually wrong. Eliminate the super delegates, HRC still won. The only way Bernie wins is if the super delegates stay and vote for him.

But keep on believing this nonsense..
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7475 on: May 13, 2025, 01:06:14 PM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on May 13, 2025, 12:57:31 PM
Bernie had the 2020 nomination locked up until the corporate owned Dems stacked the deck.

LOL
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7476 on: May 13, 2025, 01:07:08 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 13, 2025, 01:04:38 PM
Sorry. That is factually wrong. Eliminate the super delegates, HRC still won. The only way Bernie wins is if the super delegates stay and vote for him.

But keep on believing this nonsense..

It's Tempo. He believes in fantasies. Like Poles is still the GM in charge of Bear personnel.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7477 on: May 13, 2025, 04:06:56 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 13, 2025, 01:04:38 PM
Sorry. That is factually wrong. Eliminate the super delegates, HRC still won. The only way Bernie wins is if the super delegates stay and vote for him.

But keep on believing this nonsense..
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Yes, and it was really impressive that Hillary won the 2020 nomination even though she wasn't running.

You're slipping Nichi. You too PAMan
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7478 on: May 13, 2025, 04:12:55 PM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on May 13, 2025, 12:57:31 PM
Bernie had the 2020 nomination locked up until the corporate owned Dems stacked the deck.

Well, I don't know about that, but Jim Clyburne really did the job in South Carolina, electing Trump as the 2024 President.

2020's result - meh. Biden won, we get a decent cabinet, a decent infrastructure bill, nobody was attacking Medicaid.
Stemmed a lot of bleeding. Not sure if you do much better in 4 years given where we were, given COVID, given the makeup of the 2020 congress and the probability of losing the house and Senate in 2022.

But it was national malpractice that Biden ran again. Clyburne, Klobuchar, Warren - they have a little of that stain upon them that they pushed him across the line and then didn't figure out how to stop him from running again, or didn't realize how important that was.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7479 on: May 13, 2025, 07:26:41 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 13, 2025, 04:06:56 PM
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Yes, and it was really impressive that Hillary won the 2020 nomination even though she wasn't running.

You're slipping Nichi. You too PAMan

 He meant 2016.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7480 on: May 13, 2025, 07:47:58 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 13, 2025, 01:04:38 PM
Sorry. That is factually wrong. Eliminate the super delegates, HRC still won. The only way Bernie wins is if the super delegates stay and vote for him.

But keep on believing this nonsense..

2020 bro…and 2016 they stacked the deck beforehand. Bernie never had a great shot to win that nomination.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7481 on: May 13, 2025, 07:49:31 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 13, 2025, 07:26:41 PM
He meant 2016.

No I didn’t. Bernie was literally like a 94% favorite to win the nomination in 2020 before the everybody drop out and throw your support behind the guy who’s been finishing 5th shenanigans.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7482 on: May 13, 2025, 08:24:10 PM »
Not a Bernie fan, but I appreciate his willingness and drive to keep us alive and going.  Thank you Bernie from a Hillary supporter.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7483 on: May 13, 2025, 08:29:10 PM »
Quote from: Custard’s Uber Driver on May 13, 2025, 07:47:58 PM
2020 bro…and 2016 they stacked the deck beforehand. Bernie never had a great shot to win that nomination.

Wonder why, since he isn't a Democrat.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7484 on: May 13, 2025, 08:34:16 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 13, 2025, 08:29:10 PM
Wonder why, since he isn't a Democrat.

They let him think he was running, but in reality he wasn’t.
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