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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7125 on: February 21, 2025, 02:58:00 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on February 21, 2025, 01:41:26 PM
No. The objection is, that even with those 1000 laid off employees, there is more work to be done than there is manpower to do it. Now they'll be even more short staffed.

Then again, that's the plan. Not enough people, close a park, sell off the asset.
Zuckerberg owns a big chunk of Kuaui. Musk says "hold my beer, I just bought Yosemite"

That too. Still, the shot gun  approach and insane rhetoric are items reasonable people will generally agree on. That can be a start to a dialogue.

You want to buy the Presidio?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7126 on: February 21, 2025, 02:58:05 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 21, 2025, 02:03:53 PM
85 years ago

Of course they want into NATO so rich other countries like us can fund and defend them. JFC

Except Putin has said he wants to put the Soviet Union back together.

There would not be a need to join NATO and enjoy the collective defense clause if there was not a threat from Putin. JFC.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7127 on: February 21, 2025, 03:01:36 PM »
I think we lost Custard and many other right-wingers fifteen years ago when the Kremlin showed photos of Putin riding a horse bare-chested in the Siberian wilderness.  Apparently just too much beefcake to resist Russia's delusions of grandeur that covets territory and endeavors to acquire it.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7128 on: February 21, 2025, 03:20:51 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 21, 2025, 11:04:42 AM
Putin: Evil Maniac Bent On Conquering Europe and should be treated as such. It’s a bullshit story and always has been.

Who suggested Putin wants to conquer Europe?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7129 on: February 21, 2025, 03:50:41 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 21, 2025, 02:01:42 PM


Murph said the quiet part out loud

that's the loud part
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7130 on: February 21, 2025, 03:52:05 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on February 21, 2025, 03:01:36 PM
I think we lost Custard and many other right-wingers fifteen years ago when the Kremlin showed photos of Putin riding a horse bare-chested in the Siberian wilderness.  Apparently just too much beefcake to resist Russia's delusions of grandeur that covets territory and endeavors to acquire it.

Not really, remember, Custard trying to strike a chord and I think it's A Minor
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7131 on: February 21, 2025, 07:03:39 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 21, 2025, 02:58:05 PM
Except Putin has said he wants to put the Soviet Union back together.

There would not be a need to join NATO and enjoy the collective defense clause if there was not a threat from Putin. JFC.

I didn’t realize Finland was in the Soviet Union.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7132 on: February 21, 2025, 07:28:22 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on February 21, 2025, 03:01:36 PM
I think we lost Custard and many other right-wingers fifteen years ago when the Kremlin showed photos of Putin riding a horse bare-chested in the Siberian wilderness.  Apparently just too much beefcake to resist Russia's delusions of grandeur that covets territory and endeavors to acquire it.

While this is pretty funny, it is actually the opposite. My opinion of Putin and the Russian military is so low that it’s pretty clear that even if he wanted to start putting the USSR back together (he doesn’t) he wouldn’t be able to. And the idiots that think he’s going to come after NATO countries? LOL
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7133 on: February 21, 2025, 07:59:04 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 21, 2025, 07:03:39 PM
I didn’t realize Finland was in the Soviet Union.

They aren't, but they have had eyes on them since Stalin. Ergo, the "Winter War" they had 1939-1940 just as WWII was starting.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7134 on: February 21, 2025, 08:20:47 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 21, 2025, 07:28:22 PM
While this is pretty funny, it is actually the opposite. My opinion of Putin and the Russian military is so low that it’s pretty clear that even if he wanted to start putting the USSR back together (he doesn’t) he wouldn’t be able to. And the idiots that think he’s going to come after NATO countries? LOL


Regardless of his long term ambition, Putin is an international terrorist responsible for raping and pillaging throughout the war.  Schools and hospitals bombed and political opponents murdered at his hands.   How is it in our interest to kiss his ass?  At some point, character matters. 
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7135 on: February 21, 2025, 10:11:17 PM »
If Putin were slightly brown and didn’t have nukes we’d have invaded his country.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7136 on: February 21, 2025, 10:55:10 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 21, 2025, 07:59:04 PM
They aren't, but they have had eyes on them since Stalin. Ergo, the "Winter War" they had 1939-1940 just as WWII was starting.

So 85 years ago (well before Putin was even born) they had their eyes on them, and since then they’ve made zero attempts to invade or conquer them. What does Finland have that Russia wants that is worth starting WWIII? This is nonsense.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7137 on: February 21, 2025, 11:11:53 PM »
Quote from: ridingthegrange on February 21, 2025, 08:20:47 PM

Regardless of his long term ambition, Putin is an international terrorist responsible for raping and pillaging throughout the war.  Schools and hospitals bombed and political opponents murdered at his hands.   How is it in our interest to kiss his ass?  At some point, character matters.

I don’t think it’s in our interest to kiss his ass. It’s in the interest of the global community, particularly those invested in this conflict, to end it. The economic sanctions on Russia did jack shit, we’ve poured hundreds of billions into defending Ukraine, and yet it persists. People on here seem to think we need to send troops and basically start WWIII because Putin is going to take over Eastern Europe if we don’t. Bull fucking shit.

In the first month in office the Trump administration actually started face to face peace negotiations directly with Russia because what we’ve been doing wasn’t working. Playing good cop/bad cop to make a deal isn’t kissing ass. It is easier to catch flies with honey than vinegar.

The coordinated media hero worship on Zelenskyyyyyy at the outset of the conflict was so laughably absurd that it was a dead giveaway to anyone with half a brain that some weird shit was going on. There has been all kinds of fuckery going on in Ukraine for a long time, and while they didn’t deserve to be invaded, it’s not this cut-and-dried scenario where they are this poor innocent little country just being picked on for no good reason. The West, by proxy, has poked the bear, time and time again for its own interests, then acts incredulous when the bear takes a swipe.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7138 on: February 22, 2025, 07:59:29 AM »
Quote from: Billy Jack on February 21, 2025, 02:27:57 PM
Custard simping for Putin is almost as wild as his junk climate science.

A guy who drives an internal combustion engine car for a living while preaching that the earth is dying due to greenhouse gases has no business mocking anyone for their climate science.

The fact is that despite all the alarmism science tells us the earth is still in a relative cool period in its history. So when you hear stuff like “hottest summer ever” they are talking about an incredibly short period of time since humans started measuring temperatures. A blink of an eye in terms of the age of the earth. The 1930s were exceptionally hot, and the data shows were were producing a lot less CO2 then than now. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Just ~13,000 years ago, another blink of an eye in terms of the age of the planet, there was ice a mile thick sitting where Itasca is now. The earth has been warming and the glaciers and ice caps have been melting ever since, the vast majority of that time without much meaningful anthropogenic impact. The mass glaciation was so relatively recent that the land that was underneath them is still bouncing back upwards. 

Let me ask you, is it better for humans to live in the upper Midwest then or now? Global warming made it possible for you to live on the land you stole from the Algonquin.

What part of my climate science is junk? Everything in this post is verifiable fact.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7139 on: February 22, 2025, 08:27:07 AM »
Quote from: Custard on February 21, 2025, 10:55:10 PM
So 85 years ago (well before Putin was even born) they had their eyes on them, and since then they’ve made zero attempts to invade or conquer them. What does Finland have that Russia wants that is worth starting WWIII? This is nonsense.

For the same reasons they wanted it before. Place to put troops as a buffer for St. Petersburg, etc.

The guy is a Soviet with a religious twist.. He has said it all before.
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