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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7110 on: February 21, 2025, 11:21:32 AM »
Quote from: Billy Jack on February 21, 2025, 11:14:58 AM
They are preparing for war in the Baltics.

https://amp.dw.com/en/hunger-for-power-the-baltic-states-in-putins-shadow/video-70818811

He's going to endeavor to pick them off one-by-one. It may take a long time, but that's the plan to put the band back together.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7111 on: February 21, 2025, 11:36:17 AM »
Quote from: Custard on February 21, 2025, 11:04:42 AM
Yeah I didn’t swallow the Putin fear porn really from day 1 and his haphazard attack with ancient war machines taking an area the size of like Nebraska in two full years against an overmatched foe doesn’t really have me thinking he’s got designs on conquering Eastern Europe. This is obviously deeper than Ukraine: Good Putin: Evil Maniac Bent On Conquering Europe and should be treated as such. It’s a bullshit story and always has been.

Finland, Sweden, Estonia, Latvia and Poland would like to have a word. 

Also, Strawman Alert:  Of course Putin's not going to conquer Europe.  He sees himself as Peter the Great and wants to recreate the Soviet Union. 
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7112 on: February 21, 2025, 12:07:27 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 21, 2025, 11:21:32 AM
He's going to endeavor to pick them off one-by-one. It may take a long time, but that's the plan to put the band back together.

Nonsense. Ukraine is a special situation and geography to Russia and isn’t an indication that Putin wants to expand to fucking Finland. Just hand wringing designed to keep the MIC alive and well and NATO dollars and resources flowing east.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7113 on: February 21, 2025, 12:37:46 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 21, 2025, 12:07:27 PM
Nonsense. Ukraine is a special situation and geography to Russia and isn’t an indication that Putin wants to expand to fucking Finland. Just hand wringing designed to keep the MIC alive and well and NATO dollars and resources flowing east.

LOL. You are way out of your element here as you have no knowledge of the history of the region despite living through the breakup of the "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics."

The Fins did fight them off in 39-40. The Fins have kept a low profile so as not to piss them off since then. Now they want into NATO since the attack on Ukraine. Talk about a backfire.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7114 on: February 21, 2025, 01:39:31 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 20, 2025, 05:59:33 PM
400 probationary FAA employees out of 45,000 total? That’s what we are griping about?

Hey, give me 400 bucks. You have at least 45,000 bucks. Give me 400 and stop griping.

The FAA was already understaffed, shithead
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7115 on: February 21, 2025, 01:41:26 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 20, 2025, 06:51:14 PM
The main objections sre to  (1) the sledge hammer, bulldozer, chain saw, rapid fire, scatter shot approach. (2)  the irrational, half-cocked, half baked, often juvenile rhetoric.

No. The objection is, that even with those 1000 laid off employees, there is more work to be done than there is manpower to do it. Now they'll be even more short staffed.

Then again, that's the plan. Not enough people, close a park, sell off the asset.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7116 on: February 21, 2025, 01:44:15 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on February 20, 2025, 11:48:18 PM
Wikipedia.
"Although 34,544,993 people were eligible to vote in the elections,[138] the March 2014 annexation of Crimea by Russia and the occupation of parts of Donetsk Oblast and Luhansk Oblast by separatists since April 2014 meant roughly 12% of eligible voters were unable to participate in the elections.[139][3] The CEC also closed all five foreign polling stations in Ukrainian embassies and consulates within Russia ahead of the vote.[140]"

"The occupation of Crimea and part of the Donbas will prevent roughly 12 percent of Ukrainian voters from participating in elections. These voters voted disproportionately for candidates and parties that supported closer ties with Russia. This article quantifies the changes to the electorate and projects the likely partisan impact. The changes decisively tip the Ukrainian electorate away from the east and south."
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0888325418791020

I guess you don't know what "annexation" means. Crimea was annexed by Russia. Therefore it's a part of Russia.

Are you advocating for Russia voting in Ukrainian elections? If we are going that way, then I'm all for the Canadians voting in US elections.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7117 on: February 21, 2025, 01:46:02 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 21, 2025, 07:35:15 AM
If it weren't sad, it would be funny.

He's really pissed they won't just turnover their Rare Earth minerals according to reports today.

If he's pissed Zelensky won't just turn them over, wait until he lets Putin take over Ukraine. Pretty sure Vladimir won't be handing over those minerals
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7118 on: February 21, 2025, 01:47:35 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 21, 2025, 07:49:53 AM
Hope I'm alive to see Custard's kids drafted to fight the Soviets. But at this point we may be fighting the Euros on the side of the Soviets. There will be some great posting by me then!

Meh - Custard's kids will be drafted by President Putin to fight the Canadians after Trump hands Putin the keys.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7119 on: February 21, 2025, 01:49:22 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 21, 2025, 12:07:27 PM
Nonsense. Ukraine is a special situation

No. It's not. It's a sovereign country.

With a lot of natural resources that are much better in the hands of an allied country than Vladimir Putin.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7120 on: February 21, 2025, 02:01:42 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on February 21, 2025, 01:49:22 PM
With a lot of natural resources that are much better in the hands of an allied country than Vladimir Putin.



Murph said the quiet part out loud

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7121 on: February 21, 2025, 02:03:53 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 21, 2025, 12:37:46 PM
LOL. You are way out of your element here as you have no knowledge of the history of the region despite living through the breakup of the "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics."

The Fins did fight them off in 39-40. The Fins have kept a low profile so as not to piss them off since then. Now they want into NATO since the attack on Ukraine. Talk about a backfire.

85 years ago

Of course they want into NATO so rich other countries like us can fund and defend them. JFC
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7122 on: February 21, 2025, 02:07:04 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on February 21, 2025, 01:49:22 PM
No. It's not. It's a sovereign country.

A sovereign Eastern European backwater rife with corruption and grifting that has deep ties and history with Russia, a part of the population that would still like to be part of Russia. There are no analogous countries in this situation.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7123 on: February 21, 2025, 02:27:57 PM »
Custard simping for Putin is almost as wild as his junk climate science.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #7124 on: February 21, 2025, 02:34:28 PM »
What changed? Guessing Elon saw an opportunity.

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