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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6300 on: November 06, 2024, 12:29:26 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 06, 2024, 12:24:38 PM
And tons of charisma.

Definitely helps. 2016 wasn't that bad in terms of the economy, a charismatic candidate might have been able to stay in office. Or even Joe Biden, just a regular white guy who at least wasn't anti-charismatic tied to a reasonably popular president.

Biden may have elected Trump 2x, first by not running in 2016, second by running in 2024. Some random White Governor might have stood a chance vs Trump. But I doubt it - those expensive eggs. If Harris had been marginally close, you could tie it to the views of the Amish on transgender in one corner of PA that swung a critical state. But to get slaughtered like this across all demographics, it can only be prices of goods.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6301 on: November 06, 2024, 12:30:39 PM »
The most popular politician in America is a progressive. But the system is rigged so he can’t win.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6302 on: November 06, 2024, 12:35:45 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 06, 2024, 12:30:39 PM
The most popular politician in America is a progressive. But the system is rigged so he can’t win.

LOL. Sure it is. This is coming from the guy who has been wrong about money always winning in politics (except when it didn't yesterday), Fields, Eberlose, Poles, I could go on....
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6303 on: November 06, 2024, 12:42:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 06, 2024, 12:35:45 PM
LOL. Sure it is. This is coming from the guy who has been wrong about money always winning in politics (except when it didn't yesterday), Fields, Eberlose, Poles, I could go on....

Bernie Sanders has been the most popular politician in America for most of the last 8 years. Pretty much never leaving the top 2-3.



Did Kamala outspend Trump 10-1 like in those house races?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6304 on: November 06, 2024, 12:52:25 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 06, 2024, 12:42:52 PM
Bernie Sanders has been the most popular politician in America for most of the last 8 years. Pretty much never leaving the top 2-3.



Did Kamala outspend Trump 10-1 like in those house races?

LOL.

Remember how the polls had Kamala +3 and the Failing NYT said all the late deciders were breaking her way? They must be the same pollsters who did that poll.

She outraised and outspent him. You said elections were won and lost solely on money when that terrorist supporting Progressive shithead in MO lost his primary. Well, yet again, you were wrong.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6305 on: November 06, 2024, 01:00:02 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 06, 2024, 12:42:52 PM
Bernie Sanders has been the most popular politician in America for most of the last 8 years. Pretty much never leaving the top 2-3.



Did Kamala outspend Trump 10-1 like in those house races?

Pro - he's an old white guy with shitty hair who yells a lot
Con - he's jewish
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6306 on: November 06, 2024, 01:07:48 PM »
Someone doesn’t understand 1.25ish to 1 vs 10-1.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6307 on: November 06, 2024, 01:14:15 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 06, 2024, 12:23:57 PM
Still waiting for what Kamala and Democrats could have done to earn your vote (besides be Republicans).

I’ve already said it. There wasn’t much Kamala could do after they installed her. That’s what really turned me off. They lied about Biden then when they couldn’t cover it up anymore they just plugged her in. I can buy the argument that there wasn’t enough time to actually run a race or that it would hurt them with black/women if they passed over Kamala, just don’t tell me you’re saying democracy when you’re not even abiding by a democratic process for your presidential candidate. And not only that I don’t like her and I don’t like what has happened to MSP under Walz. It’s like a dystopian nightmare. Had they actually run a primary and found a decent moderate candidate that was coherent and had some charisma with good ideas then they could have earned my vote.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6308 on: November 06, 2024, 01:19:03 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 06, 2024, 01:14:15 PM
I’ve already said it. There wasn’t much Kamala could do after they installed her. That’s what really turned me off. They lied about Biden then when they couldn’t cover it up anymore they just plugged her in. I can buy the argument that there wasn’t enough time to actually run a race or that it would hurt them with black/women if they passed over Kamala, just don’t tell me you’re saying democracy when you’re not even abiding by a democratic process for your presidential candidate. And not only that I don’t like her and I don’t like what has happened to MSP under Walz. It’s like a dystopian nightmare. Had they actually run a primary and found a decent moderate candidate that was coherent and had some charisma with good ideas then they could have earned my vote.

Political Parties are not democracies. Jill Stein didn't have to run any primary.

Maybe you need to go to Rafah or Kharkiv and see a real dystopian nightmare. There's plenty of unsavory shit going on in Oakland CA but we went to see Modest Mouse at the Fox Theatre last night and it was awesome. Maybe on one corner walking to the parking garage we smelled something funky, and we had to pay for parking because street parking isn't maybe the best idea. First world fucking problems.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6309 on: November 06, 2024, 01:19:16 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 06, 2024, 01:14:15 PM
I’ve already said it. There wasn’t much Kamala could do after they installed her. That’s what really turned me off. They lied about Biden then when they couldn’t cover it up anymore they just plugged her in. I can buy the argument that there wasn’t enough time to actually run a race or that it would hurt them with black/women if they passed over Kamala, just don’t tell me you’re saying democracy when you’re not even abiding by a democratic process for your presidential candidate. And not only that I don’t like her and I don’t like what has happened to MSP under Walz. It’s like a dystopian nightmare. Had they actually run a primary and found a decent moderate candidate that was coherent and had some charisma with good ideas then they could have earned my vote.

The best part of this is that The January 6th Scheme and The Fake Electors Scheme are ok, but Biden dropping out isn't. Got it.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6310 on: November 06, 2024, 01:19:39 PM »
Just say it, there’s virtually no chance you’d vote for a Democrat (unless it was RFK Jr).
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6311 on: November 06, 2024, 01:20:10 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 06, 2024, 01:19:16 PM
The best part of this is that The January 6th Scheme and The Fake Electors Scheme are ok, but Biden dropping out isn't. Got it.


Good point.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6312 on: November 06, 2024, 01:21:02 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on November 06, 2024, 01:19:03 PM
Political Parties are not democracies. Jill Stein didn't have to run any primary.

Maybe you need to go to Rafah or Kharkiv and see a real dystopian nightmare. There's plenty of unsavory shit going on in Oakland CA but we went to see Modest Mouse at the Fox Theatre last night and it was awesome. Maybe on one corner walking to the parking garage we smelled something funky, and we had to pay for parking because street parking isn't maybe the best idea. First world fucking problems.

Was Robb there?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6313 on: November 06, 2024, 01:21:08 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on November 06, 2024, 01:00:02 PM
Pro - he's an old white guy with shitty hair who yells a lot
Con - he's jewish

Sounds about right. Omitted that he lived on a kibbutz.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6314 on: November 06, 2024, 01:22:05 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 06, 2024, 01:21:08 PM
Sounds about right. Omitted that he lived on a kibbutz.

He’s a rich dude who owns three houses…
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