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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6120 on: October 02, 2024, 07:45:24 PM »
Disaster relief is not socialism by any definition
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6121 on: October 02, 2024, 07:47:37 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 02, 2024, 07:45:24 PM
Disaster relief is not socialism by any definition

It’s not rugged individualism by any definition.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6122 on: October 02, 2024, 07:48:37 PM »
And how do you figure?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6123 on: October 02, 2024, 07:49:47 PM »
I would call disaster relief a pretty large social safety net, which is definitely a tenet of socialism.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6124 on: October 02, 2024, 07:51:02 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 02, 2024, 07:49:47 PM
I would call disaster relief a pretty large social safety net, which is definitely a tenet of socialism.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6125 on: October 02, 2024, 07:56:13 PM »


It’s just not what you think it is. It’s become bastardized to primarily mean a social safety net when it actually primarily means state owned means of production.  I’m not saying Florida isn’t benefiting from aid, I’m just saying it isn’t socialism.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6126 on: October 02, 2024, 08:00:31 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 02, 2024, 07:56:13 PM


It’s just not what you think it is. It’s become bastardized to primarily mean a social safety net when it actually primarily means state owned means of production.  I’m not saying Florida isn’t benefiting from aid, I’m just saying it isn’t socialism.

Did you make it down to the welfare system section? Doing whatever you want, making mistakes and taking no accountability while making the productive members of society clean up your mess is god damn socialism, Comrade Custard!
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6127 on: October 02, 2024, 08:03:22 PM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6128 on: October 02, 2024, 08:03:59 PM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6129 on: October 02, 2024, 08:05:18 PM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6130 on: October 02, 2024, 08:07:34 PM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6131 on: October 02, 2024, 08:16:09 PM »
This socialist dude hates Golf's and Custard's "socialism"

https://www.hamiltonnolan.com/p/bad-climate-socialism
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6132 on: October 02, 2024, 08:18:25 PM »
Universal health care = socialism since people will just eat all day....

Cleaning up after disaster after disaster due to people living in hurricane floodplains =/= socialism because.....why?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6133 on: October 02, 2024, 08:29:03 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 02, 2024, 08:00:31 PM
Did you make it down to the welfare system section? Doing whatever you want, making mistakes and taking no accountability while making the productive members of society clean up your mess is god damn socialism, Comrade Custard!

Then call it welfare and not socialism.  Just because a political structure has a tenet(s) that aligns with what you’re saying doesn’t mean it’s appropriate to call it something it’s—by definition—not.

Government expenditures to help citizens isn’t unique to socialism. It has nothing to do with state or collective means of ownership of means of production. And all the articles you posted are just using the bastard politicized version I already pointed out.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6134 on: October 02, 2024, 08:30:47 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 02, 2024, 08:18:25 PM
Universal health care = socialism since people will just eat all day....

Cleaning up after disaster after disaster due to people living in hurricane floodplains =/= socialism because.....why?

Point out where I said that? I know you love our house search function!

Social programs =/= socialism.

I will admit the word social being in both of them makes this confusing.

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