wtf is wrong with the right?

illiniray

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2580 on: August 05, 2022, 10:05:21 PM »

Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 05, 2022, 09:33:17 PM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

are they going to dig them out of the ground when they feel like it would be?

“Wind turbine blades at the end of their operational life are landfill-safe, unlike the waste from some other energy sources, and represent a small fraction of overall U.S. municipal solid waste, ..."

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2581 on: August 08, 2022, 02:14:57 PM »

It is only fitting that these people were conned...sorry Golf! QAnon97! Hope your Let's Go Brandon t-shirt was actually made in the US, Mn.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ftc-fines-lions-not-sheep-200513626.html

A Utah-based apparel company known for selling far-right and pro-Trump merchandise is ordered to pay more than $20,000 to the FTC for replacing "Made in China" tags with "Made in USA" tags.

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illinifan57

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2582 on: August 08, 2022, 02:41:06 PM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on August 08, 2022, 02:14:57 PM

It is only fitting that these people were conned...sorry Golf! QAnon97! Hope your Let's Go Brandon t-shirt was actually made in the US, Mn.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ftc-fines-lions-not-sheep-200513626.html

A Utah-based apparel company known for selling far-right and pro-Trump merchandise is ordered to pay more than $20,000 to the FTC for replacing "Made in China" tags with "Made in USA" tags.

HAHAHA. Stuff like that would go on in Utah?

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illiniray

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2583 on: August 18, 2022, 06:13:01 PM »

This is not good for plants or animals.

"The mark is the hottest nightly average not only for July, but for any month in 128 years of record keeping,"

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/13/1117341558/us-july-sets-new-record-overnight-warmth

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2584 on: August 18, 2022, 06:22:24 PM »

Quote from: illiniray on August 18, 2022, 06:13:01 PM

This is not good for plants or animals.

"The mark is the hottest nightly average not only for July, but for any month in 128 years of record keeping,"

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/13/1117341558/us-july-sets-new-record-overnight-warmth

Correcting climate change is now over. We are in mitigation. So yes, COVID and climate change are indeed metaphors for each other.

Unclear when the Democrats will grab onto that. At some point it's not about electric vehicles - it's simply that without a massive buildout of solar and wind electricity, we won't have enough energy for cooling and whatever massive project we'll need to move water around the country, and to replace the hydro power we are going to lose.

I mean, that should be a simple argument for solar. You can deny climate change all you want, but you can't deny that Lake Mead is getting so low that power generation is about to be disrupted. If the dam isn't producing power, the southwest is screwed. Unless they do a Marshall plan buildout for solar.

Europe will need the same even if there is a claim that coal will do the job. Coal is shipped on the Danube on Rhine, which is getting close to unnavigable. The thing about solar is that once you put the panel in, you don't need to ship in more food pellets to it. Sure, it's weather dependent (and we seem to be getting the weather it needs) but then again so is hydro.

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illiniray

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2585 on: August 18, 2022, 07:15:53 PM »

Republicans appear to still oppose Medicaid expansion ideologically, but are starting to cave for practical reasons.
https://www.axios.com/2022/08/17/medicaid-expansion-republican-states

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2586 on: August 18, 2022, 08:07:37 PM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on August 18, 2022, 06:22:24 PM

Correcting climate change is now over. We are in mitigation. So yes, COVID and climate change are indeed metaphors for each other.

Unclear when the Democrats will grab onto that. At some point it's not about electric vehicles - it's simply that without a massive buildout of solar and wind electricity, we won't have enough energy for cooling and whatever massive project we'll need to move water around the country, and to replace the hydro power we are going to lose.

I mean, that should be a simple argument for solar. You can deny climate change all you want, but you can't deny that Lake Mead is getting so low that power generation is about to be disrupted. If the dam isn't producing power, the southwest is screwed. Unless they do a Marshall plan buildout for solar.

Europe will need the same even if there is a claim that coal will do the job. Coal is shipped on the Danube on Rhine, which is getting close to unnavigable. The thing about solar is that once you put the panel in, you don't need to ship in more food pellets to it. Sure, it's weather dependent (and we seem to be getting the weather it needs) but then again so is hydro.

QAnon97 would spit in your eye, but he has dry mouth as there is no water out there.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2587 on: August 18, 2022, 10:02:49 PM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on August 18, 2022, 06:22:24 PM

Correcting climate change is now over. We are in mitigation. So yes, COVID and climate change are indeed metaphors for each other.

Unclear when the Democrats will grab onto that. At some point it's not about electric vehicles - it's simply that without a massive buildout of solar and wind electricity, we won't have enough energy for cooling and whatever massive project we'll need to move water around the country, and to replace the hydro power we are going to lose.

I mean, that should be a simple argument for solar. You can deny climate change all you want, but you can't deny that Lake Mead is getting so low that power generation is about to be disrupted. If the dam isn't producing power, the southwest is screwed. Unless they do a Marshall plan buildout for solar.

Europe will need the same even if there is a claim that coal will do the job. Coal is shipped on the Danube on Rhine, which is getting close to unnavigable. The thing about solar is that once you put the panel in, you don't need to ship in more food pellets to it. Sure, it's weather dependent (and we seem to be getting the weather it needs) but then again so is hydro.

My climatologist friend says we’re kaput, although the demise will be slow. Me: I’m waiting for the oligarchs to bail us out with some kind of “Termination Shock” solution.

Meanwhile, time for some species scurrying underfoot to replay the role mammals played some sixty million years ago.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2588 on: August 19, 2022, 01:41:48 AM »

FFS

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2589 on: August 19, 2022, 08:03:26 AM »

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2590 on: August 19, 2022, 10:04:39 AM »

Quote from: illiniray on August 18, 2022, 06:13:01 PM

This is not good for plants or animals.

"The mark is the hottest nightly average not only for July, but for any month in 128 years of record keeping,"

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/13/1117341558/us-july-sets-new-record-overnight-warmth

it is because there is more water vapor in the air, and water vapor is the strongest greenhouse gas

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illiniray

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?

« Reply #2591 on: August 19, 2022, 12:56:44 PM »

Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 19, 2022, 10:04:39 AM

it is because there is more water vapor in the air, and water vapor is the strongest greenhouse gas

Yes. CO2 increases have raised daytime temperatures; which increases water vapor in the air. This increases night time temps.

"Nighttime warms faster because daytime warming helps make the air hold more moisture then that moisture helps trap the heat in at night, Gleason said."

Water vapor is a strong greenhouse gas, but it is also transient. Atmospheric CO2 is the core long term factor that controls temperatures. It's like a loop. More CO2 = higher temperatures = more water vapor. I gather you get higher dew point temperatures caused by noncondescenceable green house gases.

This might help:

"Although water vapor probably accounts for about 60% of the Earth’s greenhouse warming effect, water vapor does not control the Earth’s temperature. Instead, the amount of water vapor is controlled by the temperature."

...

"If a volume of air contains its maximum amount of water vapor and the temperature is decreased, some of the water vapor will condense to form liquid water ..."

"The greenhouse effect that has maintained the Earth’s temperature at a level warm enough for human civilization to develop over the past several millennia is controlled by non-condensable gases, mainly carbon dioxide, ...

"Because these gases are not condensable at atmospheric temperatures and pressures, the atmosphere can pack in much more of these gases ..."

The article notes this is an area of active research. A certain amount of water vapor and cloud cover could reflect sunlight and mitigate warming to some degree, we are figuring it out.

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/climatescience/climatesciencenarratives/its-water-vapor-not-the-co2.html

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