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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2565 on: August 04, 2022, 10:25:45 AM »
Carbon dioxide is essential for life on this planet
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2566 on: August 04, 2022, 11:18:54 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 04, 2022, 10:25:45 AM
Carbon dioxide is essential for life on this planet

True, but human activities are disrupting the natural balance of the carbon cycle. 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2567 on: August 04, 2022, 11:19:03 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 04, 2022, 10:25:45 AM
Carbon dioxide is essential for life on this planet

Got a hearty guffaw out of me
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2568 on: August 04, 2022, 11:44:09 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 04, 2022, 10:25:45 AM
Carbon dioxide is essential for life on this planet

True, but there can be too much of a good thing.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2569 on: August 05, 2022, 09:59:37 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 04, 2022, 11:44:09 AM
True, but there can be too much of a good thing.

the solution to all the world's problems is energy too cheap to meter

we need to find ways to get there without destroying the planet
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2570 on: August 05, 2022, 12:32:03 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 05, 2022, 09:59:37 AM
the solution to all the world's problems is energy too cheap to meter

We’ll likely never see a model where energy isn’t strictly controlled by a few and exorbitantly priced to the masses.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2571 on: August 05, 2022, 01:15:36 PM »
Quote from: Custard on August 05, 2022, 12:32:03 PM
We’ll likely never see a model where energy isn’t strictly controlled by a few and exorbitantly priced to the masses.

point of use of windmills and solar panels might be the best model currently available 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2572 on: August 05, 2022, 02:00:32 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 05, 2022, 01:15:36 PM
point of use of windmills and solar panels might be the best model currently available

lots of materials and rare earth mining needs to happen to make those, and they aren't recyclable either, and don't work 24/7... nuclear and fusion is the only way that makes sense
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2573 on: August 05, 2022, 02:01:55 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 05, 2022, 01:15:36 PM
point of use of windmills and solar panels might be the best model currently available

“…small renewable energy producers that are connected through a decentralized grid to end-users who can buy and also produce energy and sell it back to the grid or the local micro-grid.”
https://youmatter.world/en/decentralised-renewable-energy-systems/
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2574 on: August 05, 2022, 02:08:55 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 05, 2022, 02:00:32 PM
lots of materials and rare earth mining needs to happen to make those, and they aren't recyclable either, and don't work 24/7... nuclear and fusion is the only way that makes sense

Socialist!

US government chips in $1.4bn for first “small modular” nuclear plant
https://www.globalconstructionreview.com/us-government-chips-14bn-first-small-modular-nucle/

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2575 on: August 05, 2022, 02:25:47 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on August 05, 2022, 02:01:55 PM
“…small renewable energy producers that are connected through a decentralized grid to end-users who can buy and also produce energy and sell it back to the grid or the local micro-grid.”
https://youmatter.world/en/decentralised-renewable-energy-systems/

yes. Until something better comes along.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2576 on: August 05, 2022, 02:27:38 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 05, 2022, 02:00:32 PM
lots of materials and rare earth mining needs to happen to make those, and they aren't recyclable either, and don't work 24/7... nuclear and fusion is the only way that makes sense

Windmill blades can be recycled as building materials; it just is not cost effective right now.   
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2577 on: August 05, 2022, 09:31:59 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on August 05, 2022, 02:08:55 PM
Socialist!

US government chips in $1.4bn for first “small modular” nuclear plant
https://www.globalconstructionreview.com/us-government-chips-14bn-first-small-modular-nucle/

peanuts, we should be spending a hell of a lot more on that instead of this chinese made solar and wind garbage
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2578 on: August 05, 2022, 09:33:17 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on August 05, 2022, 02:27:38 PM
Windmill blades can be recycled as building materials; it just is not cost effective right now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

are they going to dig them out of the ground when they feel like it would be? 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2579 on: August 05, 2022, 09:41:32 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 05, 2022, 09:31:59 PM
peanuts, we should be spending a hell of a lot more on that instead of this chinese made solar and wind garbage

Right, shovel even more money at BIG NUCLEAR.   

Nuclear power: from too cheap to meter to too expensive to matter.
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