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Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #570 on: May 05, 2021, 09:57:45 PM »
Quote from: Breal31 on May 05, 2021, 09:50:30 PM
Yup, would slide right into gentrys seat

This guy Sounds like quite an asshat. Even people outside the program don’t like him. Very surprised this was kept under the rug all year

If the Gentry hire swayed guys away, or at least made them listen to others, and that stunts our recent program success...who's shoulders does that fall on? Whitman or Wood?
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #571 on: May 05, 2021, 10:03:39 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on May 05, 2021, 09:57:45 PM
If the Gentry hire swayed guys away, or at least made them listen to others, and that stunts our recent program success...who's shoulders does that fall on? Whitman or Wood?

I don’t necessarily think he’s swayed guys away, those guys would have gone anyways. But he’s clearly an issue and not something you want new guys dealing with
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #572 on: May 05, 2021, 10:08:29 PM »
FYI "if" we are getting CF as an Associate Head Coach here...2022 Maryland rankings and players all uncommitted, 2 very good bigs.

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Basketball/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=H&State=MD
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #573 on: May 05, 2021, 10:17:12 PM »
Van Macon SJU and Kimani Young are the 2 hot names right now.

Mennenga still getting mentioned but seems like that’s maybe not happening. Powell is out
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #574 on: May 05, 2021, 10:33:41 PM »
Quote from: Breal31 on May 05, 2021, 09:38:19 PM
Yes, sounds like Chester Frazier is unofficially recruiting for Illinois until it can become official

And Gentry might not be very long for Champaign. I don’t know if Underwood can/will fire him, but if he finds a job....outta here

So is Gentry the reason n for the Chin and OA departures? And Underwood wants to fire him?
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #575 on: May 05, 2021, 10:43:19 PM »
Quote from: Breal31 on May 05, 2021, 09:38:19 PM
Yes, sounds like Chester Frazier is unofficially recruiting for Illinois until it can become official

And Gentry might not be very long for Champaign. I don’t know if Underwood can/will fire him, but if he finds a job....outta here

well I know we don't have to worry about him being a lazy POS so thats good, I really hope he fucking kills it here
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #576 on: May 05, 2021, 10:49:50 PM »
Quote from: Breal31 on May 05, 2021, 10:17:12 PM
Van Macon SJU and Kimani Young are the 2 hot names right now.

Mennenga still getting mentioned but seems like that’s maybe not happening. Powell is out

Both Macon or Young would keep us that connection with the NY scene, CF the Baltimore one and in state. I like Young as far as youth, Macon for connections in multiple stops. Mennenga purely the PR connection.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #577 on: May 05, 2021, 10:50:07 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on May 05, 2021, 10:33:41 PM
So is Gentry the reason n for the Chin and OA departures? And Underwood wants to fire him?

Cant speak for Orlando but Coleman can’t stand him. Is that why he left? Probably not, I think he jumps anyways.

Underwood brought him here, it’s hard to fire him and not a very good look. Perfect scenario is he gets another job and problem solved.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #578 on: May 05, 2021, 11:57:37 PM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on May 05, 2021, 09:49:46 PM
Actually liking the Chester hire, and honestly think he will take OA spot....who fills the others at that point?

Tech message board seems to be worried about how they move forward losing CF?

How in the fck will he take OA’s spot?
Chet hasn't recruited anyone of note in his career. He can’t easily point to guys he had a hand in bringing in that are well known, or he helped in getting to NBA.
He is kind of guy you might hire as a niche player development guy if you value his defensive mindset to have around and who will be loyal to the program.

You don't need to use him as one of the 3 assts who recruit. At best, he is your third guy if you have two other guys who can take the lead with that.
We have Gentry who apparently is a real pain in the ass Barney Fife for Hulka who we can’t fire and nobody wants.

We now better find someone who can really recruit their ass off.

Best to Chet, and hope he develops some relationships somewhere that help us, but not crazy about this hire.





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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #579 on: May 06, 2021, 01:03:24 AM »
Both Young and Macon look good. Get them both if possible.
Good Experience, and solid records in recruiting.

Reassign Gentry to another role on staff and we are in good shape.

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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #580 on: May 06, 2021, 06:51:21 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on May 05, 2021, 11:57:37 PM

We have Gentry who apparently is a real pain in the ass Barney Fife for Hulka who we can’t fire and nobody wants.








You take that back.
And best of luck to Chester
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #581 on: May 06, 2021, 07:45:10 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on May 05, 2021, 11:57:37 PM
How in the fck will he take OA’s spot?
Chet hasn't recruited anyone of note in his career. He can’t easily point to guys he had a hand in bringing in that are well known, or he helped in getting to NBA.
He is kind of guy you might hire as a niche player development guy if you value his defensive mindset to have around and who will be loyal to the program.

You don't need to use him as one of the 3 assts who recruit. At best, he is your third guy if you have two other guys who can take the lead with that.
We have Gentry who apparently is a real pain in the ass Barney Fife for Hulka who we can’t fire and nobody wants.

We now better find someone who can really recruit their ass off.

Best to Chet, and hope he develops some relationships somewhere that help us, but not crazy about this hire.

Most of the VT Boards actually credit Frazier as being the main reason for any success and are surprised he hasn't been pegged for a HC gig somewhere already? He fits what we need, and he certainly is being linked to most if not all recruiting success at VT. He also has been mentioned as being more important to the program than the head coach presently.

I think he fits into OA role as Asst HC easily....the actual recruiting part of it....we will see, but I do agree with need to get an established recruiter on board as well. Hopefully Chester surprises us arm chair coaches. I think he will. I like the hire. I don't think the "3rd" guy on the bench carries any weight  with recruits.
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #582 on: May 06, 2021, 09:07:34 AM »
Chester is your #2, not #3...#3 is going to be very likely either 1 last year of Gentnutz or Alexander
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #583 on: May 06, 2021, 09:11:01 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on May 03, 2021, 08:37:41 AM
No way to view this, and rationalize it very easily.

Losing Chin also, after being offered huge raise, creates some questions about Whitman and/or Hulka and the program.



You don’t say?
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Re: Coach Hulka Illini 2021-22 Roster and Staff Watch
« Reply #584 on: May 06, 2021, 09:12:05 AM »
Chester Frazier? FML

It wasn’t enough we had to suffer through 4 years of watching him play?
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