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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4500 on: April 12, 2022, 12:55:57 PM »
Scientists struggle to probe COVID’s origins amid sparse data from China
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00732-0

We may never get a satisfactory answer, but we can still work to prevent future pandemics.  Here’s a few options for improving safety in laboratories AND preventing natural spillovers:   
https://www.vox.com/22527717/covid-19-lab-leak-debate-natural-spillover-pandemic-prevention



Amy Maxmen, who said she's never met Peter Daszak, sat next to Peter Daszak when "Peter Daszak in 2016 gives the rationale for work by his colleagues in China on manipulating the coronavirus spike protein to see if they can infect human cells."
The individual on Daszak's right is W. Ian Lipkin, one of the Proximal Origins authors.
Lipkin has a rather puzzled look on his face when Daszak says that he didn't do the work. It was his colleagues that did it.

Lipkin, from the Vanity Fair article, "Lipkin was added as a fifth author on the Proximal Origin letter. On February 11, 2020, ahead of publication, he emailed a coauthor to say that a draft provided “a plausible argument against genetic engineering” but did “not eliminate the possibility of inadvertent release” through routine laboratory work cultivating a virus at the WIV. He added, “Given the scale of the bat CoV research pursued there and the site of emergence of the first human cases we have a nightmare of circumstantial evidence to assess.”
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4995877/user-clip-ecohealth-alliance-daszak-2016-describing-chinas-colleagues-work-coronavirus-spike

Maxmen then cites 3 pre-print articles. One authored by several China CDC members, among others, and the other 2 include 4 of the Proximal Origin authors.

Re the Vox article.
Rule #1: If gain of function research is halted in the U.S., don't fund gain of function research in China.
Rule #2: see rule #1.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4501 on: April 12, 2022, 01:05:58 PM »
Bring me the head of Peter Daszak!

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4502 on: April 12, 2022, 10:35:55 PM »
I'm pretty liquored and didn't read Mn's post in full. But I'm guessing it is devastating 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4503 on: April 19, 2022, 12:27:39 PM »
I came on here expecting the resident CDC worshipers to be up in arms over the removal of mandates !
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4504 on: April 19, 2022, 12:54:44 PM »
I came on here expecting the resident CDC worshipers to be up in arms over the removal of mandates !

Not flying anytime soon.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4505 on: April 19, 2022, 02:15:56 PM »
The right of the people to spread disease shall not be infringed.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4506 on: April 19, 2022, 03:08:27 PM »
The right of the people to spread disease shall not be infringed.

its been 3 years now if you're still worried about covid you're a dumbass

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4507 on: April 19, 2022, 03:24:57 PM »
Not flying anytime soon.

If I do fly, I'm going to get myself set up with this under my mask, then if anyone gives me grief, off comes the mask

https://www.instructables.com/Maggot-Infested-Skin-Trypophobia-Doctor-Costume/

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4508 on: April 19, 2022, 03:36:00 PM »
its been 3 years now if you're still worried about covid you're a dumbass

Scared? No. Never was. Cautious? Of course. I am voluntarily up to date on shots and have never had a problem with mask mandates. 

Being scared of mask mandates and vaccines is silly.
 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4509 on: April 19, 2022, 05:12:00 PM »
I think we recognize that pandemic containment measures don’t keep going until we’re all immortal. 

But I still plan to wear a mask when I’m robbing banks. 

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4510 on: April 20, 2022, 01:00:40 PM »
its been 3 years now if you're still worried about covid you're a dumbass

2 years, 1 month. And a lot of us have concerns for others, not just ourselves.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4511 on: April 20, 2022, 01:01:24 PM »
Scared? No. Never was. Cautious? Of course. I am voluntarily up to date on shots and have never had a problem with mask mandates. 

Being scared of mask mandates and vaccines is silly.

Sí.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4512 on: April 20, 2022, 02:21:46 PM »
And a lot of us have concerns for others, not just ourselves.

oh well that clearly automatically makes you superior to those that are more self preserving






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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4513 on: April 20, 2022, 03:34:50 PM »
It goes without saying that actions rooted in compassion are morally superior to actions rooted in selfish interest. That does not always work out well in practice. Republicans pay lip service to Jesus, but practice objectivism.

Mask mandates for public transportation is such a strange fight for the right wing.  They are literally defending the right of infected people to spread the virus.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4514 on: April 20, 2022, 04:01:36 PM »
It goes without saying that actions rooted in compassion are morally superior to actions rooted in selfish interest. That does not always work out well in practice. Republicans pay lip service to Jesus, but practice objectivism.

Mask mandates for public transportation is such a strange fight for the right wing.  They are literally defending the right of infected people to spread the virus.

You forget the part where they hate "public transportation" (as they do the post office) and would rather have it all privatized so grifters can grift.
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