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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4531 on: April 21, 2022, 11:37:43 AM »
Oh.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/amp/Prominent-Wuhan-lab-can-ask-UTMB-to-destroy-17113462.php



Would think it is boilerplate contract language in these contracts. Whether it should be boilerplate is a different story.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4532 on: April 21, 2022, 12:12:21 PM »
Of course there are. But they don't get heard.

It's sort of like calling a an 800 number with a question. You get a menu. If you are calling about x, push 1. And so on.  If your question is not answered, you can always try the web site. You are provided faqs. If your question is not included, it must not be pertinent.

Or like the push poll questionnaires the RNC sends out. Which issue makes you the maddest: a). Illegal immigration at our porous southern border. b). run away inflation caused by Biden's spending policies. c). high gas prices caused by Biden canceling the keystone pipeline. d). grooming  by pedophile teachers in public teachers. e). CRT that unfairly blames white children for slavery. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4533 on: April 21, 2022, 12:19:27 PM »
not so deadly coronavirus

Only killed 1.1 million Americans in a little over 2 years. The flu took 330 thousand in over a decade. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4534 on: April 21, 2022, 12:22:12 PM »
Only killed 1.1 million Americans in a little over 2 years. The flu took 330 thousand in over a decade.

do you know how many americans die each year?
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« Reply #4535 on: April 21, 2022, 12:29:07 PM »
Leading causes of death in USA for 2020

Heart disease: 696,962
Cancer: 602,350
COVID-19: 350,831
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 200,955
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 160,264
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 152,657
Alzheimer’s disease: 134,242
Diabetes: 102,188
Influenza and pneumonia: 53,544
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 52,547
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« Reply #4536 on: April 21, 2022, 12:34:11 PM »
Leading causes of death in USA for 2020

Heart disease: 696,962
Cancer: 602,350
COVID-19: 350,831
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 200,955
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 160,264
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 152,657
Alzheimer’s disease: 134,242
Diabetes: 102,188
Influenza and pneumonia: 53,544
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 52,547


the answer is about 3 million

guess we should shut down the economy for heart disease and cancer

or nah, just stay inside, order shitty food, don't exercise and make sure to watch lots of cable news for extra fear and stress

oh and wear a mask, lol

and make sure those numbers aren't just "with covid" and not actually "from covid"

and make sure to skip over the fact that covid basically only killed people with very little life left anyway  (obese, old fucks)
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« Reply #4537 on: April 21, 2022, 01:15:23 PM »
It's sort of like calling a an 800 number with a question. You get a menu. If you are calling about x, push 1. And so on.  If your question is not answered, you can always try the web site. You are provided faqs. If your question is not included, it must not be pertinent.

That is why I always just yell "Representative" into the phone.
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« Reply #4538 on: April 21, 2022, 03:36:31 PM »
I am sure masks, vaccines, work at home, and other measures did nothing to reduce the death toll. Just a bunch of lazy old fat people who deserved to die anyway.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4539 on: April 21, 2022, 03:44:13 PM »
btw

The extra money for Covid deaths was debunked and only brain dead idiots ever bought that.

What is the incentive to overstate Covid deaths?

The people downplaying them are the same ones who say the moon landing was fake,  9-11 was an inside job, Sandy Hook was a false flag operation, the fossil record was faked by Satan ...
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« Reply #4540 on: April 21, 2022, 04:01:09 PM »
btw

The extra money for Covid deaths was debunked and only brain dead idiots ever bought that.

What is the incentive to overstate Covid deaths?

The people downplaying them are the same ones who say the moon landing was fake,  9-11 was an inside job, Sandy Hook was a false flag operation, the fossil record was faked by Satan ...
What

Wow. Did not know all that about IlliniGolf and QAnon97! Interesting.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4541 on: April 21, 2022, 05:19:53 PM »
It's not the extra money for Covid deaths, It's the more money for  Covid diagnosis which may, or may not, result in a more labor intensive hospital stay.

 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

"We rate the claim that hospitals get paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19 and on ventilators as TRUE.

Hospitals and doctors do get paid more for Medicare patients diagnosed with COVID-19 or if it's considered presumed they have COVID-19 absent a laboratory-confirmed test, and three times more if the patients are placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases."



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« Reply #4542 on: April 21, 2022, 05:34:44 PM »
It's not the extra money for Covid deaths, It's the more money for  Covid diagnosis which may, or may not, result in a more labor intensive hospital stay.

 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

"We rate the claim that hospitals get paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19 and on ventilators as TRUE.

Hospitals and doctors do get paid more for Medicare patients diagnosed with COVID-19 or if it's considered presumed they have COVID-19 absent a laboratory-confirmed test, and three times more if the patients are placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases."

So you think they were padding Covid deaths to somehow retroactively get the 20% mark up for having treating medicare patients?  I am not following the logic. The bonus is for treating Covid. Not for  Covid deaths.

Are they putting people on ventilators who do not need ventilators? If so, how does that relate to giving Covid as the cause of the death on the death certificate?
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« Reply #4543 on: April 21, 2022, 05:52:50 PM »
Wow. Did not know all that about IlliniGolf and QAnon97! Interesting.

I should say same sort of people.
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« Reply #4544 on: April 21, 2022, 06:19:27 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-lowers-coronavirus-death-count

"Colorado has made a stunning and significant change to the way it counts COVID-19 deaths that reduced the statewide figure from more than 1,000 to 878, according to a report.

The change came after Colorado’s Department of Public Health admitted that its COVID-19 death toll was counting those who tested positive for the coronavirus but had died of other causes, Fox 31 Denver reported late Friday.

The department now says 1,150 Coloradoans who died had COVID-19 but only 878 of those deaths were “due to” COVID-19.

"We have been reporting at the state, deaths among people who had COVID-19 at the time of death and the cause of that death may or may not have been COVID-19,” Dr. Eric France, the health department's chief medical officer told the station."

https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-reports-fewer-covid-19-204027980.html

"(Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported 966,575 deaths from COVID-19 on Friday after it corrected the data earlier this week, which reduced the death tallies in all age-groups, including children.

The health agency, in a statement to Reuters, said it made adjustments to its COVID Data Tracker's mortality data on March 14 because its algorithm was accidentally counting deaths that were not COVID-19-related.

The adjustment resulted in removal of 72,277 deaths previously reported across 26 states, including 416 pediatric deaths, CDC said.

The reduction cut the CDC's estimate of deaths in children by 24% to 1,341 as of March 18."

Ask the bureaucrats why they're padding the death totals.