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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #480 on: July 17, 2020, 08:53:05 PM »
I'm reminded that I never got that thread about girls who like it in the butt. What's up with that?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #481 on: July 18, 2020, 12:03:36 AM »
Quote from: fucking on July 17, 2020, 08:53:05 PM
I'm reminded that I never got that thread about girls who like it in the butt. What's up with that?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #482 on: July 18, 2020, 05:54:29 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on July 15, 2020, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: Custard on July 15, 2020, 02:49:12 PM
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 15, 2020, 12:57:26 PM
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I’m not downplaying the fact that some percentage of those who have been infected and survive will have permanent or long term damage. That’s certainly not unique to this pathogen.

My angle on this is that we have to find a way to live with this pathogen and strike a balance between COVID killing people and killing people by overreacting to COVID. There are always trade-offs, whether you wish to call them non-existent or not.

As long as human beings are still biological in nature, we are going to be susceptible to pathogens. That’s just part of the ecosystem we inhabit and will probably become worse as we continue to overpopulate and push the envelope of what our habitat can sustain.

We must do what we can to address the spread and lethality of each outbreak while being cognizant of the collateral damage that comes with extreme lockdown measures. And it’s certainly a slippery slope for the future.

If you’re advocating for a total tear down of the western capitalistic framework by shutting down the economy at will, then I would better understand your casual attitude towards the severity of the economic struggles wrought upon the working and lower classes.

You could certainly argue that more consumers should live like you, and I wouldn’t disagree. I’ve applauded your lifestyle in the past on multiple occasions. People certainly shouldn’t be debt serfs, but sadly that’s the state of our current society.

If forced to choose, I would take a simpler, more subsistence style of living for our society over armed guards forcing people to wear masks and have temperature checks so people can go to Walmart and buy shit they oftentimes don’t really need. If you want groceries there are a multitude of ways to do so without going into public areas unprotected.

I don’t think I’ve said anywhere that anyone should be in public spaces where social distancing is impossible without wearing a mask. If someone finds where I’ve said that, my apologies. I’ve often reported what I actually see while out and about, which is not a reflection of what I think is proper etiquette.

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Normalize this…

Texas hospitals are running out of drugs, beds, ventilators and even staff


“A coronavirus patient in Anahuac was flown by helicopter to a hospital in El Campo — 120 miles away — because closer facilities could not take him.”

“Ambulances are waiting up to 10 hours to deliver patients to packed Hidalgo County emergency rooms.”

“And short-staffed hospitals in Midland and Odessa have had to turn away ailing COVID-19 patients from rural West Texas facilities that can’t offer the care they need.”

“As the tally of coronavirus infections climbs higher each day, Texas hospitals are taking extraordinary steps to make space for a surge of patients. Some facilities in South Texas say they are dangerously close to filling up, while hospitals elsewhere are taking precautionary measures to keep their numbers manageable.”

“Doctors warn of shortages of an antiviral drug that shows promise for treating COVID-19 patients. And epidemiologists say the state’s hospitals may be in for a longer, harder ride than places like New York, where hospitals were stretched to capacity in the spring and some parked refrigerated trailers outside to store bodies of people who died from COVID-19.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/14/texas-hospitals-coronavirus/

So what happened to emergency hospitals and ships? Why are they waiting in line? WITAF? We geared up specifically FOR THIS in March and April.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #483 on: July 19, 2020, 12:33:59 AM »
Wear your masks.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #484 on: July 19, 2020, 12:01:50 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #485 on: July 19, 2020, 12:16:54 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on July 19, 2020, 12:33:59 AM
Wear your masks.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #486 on: July 19, 2020, 03:14:15 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2020, 05:54:29 PM

So what happened to emergency hospitals and ships? Why are they waiting in line? WITAF? We geared up specifically FOR THIS in March and April.

Good question. Abysmal national leadership. No consistent national plan.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #487 on: July 20, 2020, 09:12:43 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 19, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2020, 05:54:29 PM

So what happened to emergency hospitals and ships? Why are they waiting in line? WITAF? We geared up specifically FOR THIS in March and April.

Good question. Abysmal national leadership. No consistent national plan.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #488 on: July 20, 2020, 09:42:39 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 19, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2020, 05:54:29 PM

So what happened to emergency hospitals and ships? Why are they waiting in line? WITAF? We geared up specifically FOR THIS in March and April.

Good question. Abysmal national leadership. No consistent national plan.

Ben Sasse seems to agree with you.

“Senator Ben Sasse, Republican of Nebraska, said he wanted the administration to offer more extensive public-health updates to the American people, and condemned the open animosity toward Dr. Fauci by some administration officials, including Peter Navarro, the trade adviser, who wrote an opinion column attacking Dr. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert.”

“’I want more briefings but, more importantly, I want the whole White House to start acting like a team on a mission to tackle a real problem,’ Mr. Sasse said. ‘Navarro’s Larry, Moe and Curly junior-high slap fight this week is yet another way to undermine public confidence that these guys grasp that tens of thousands of Americans have died and tens of millions are out of work.’”

As Trump Ignores Virus Crisis, Republicans Start to Break Ranks
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/19/us/politics/republicans-contradict-trump-coronavirus.html
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #489 on: July 20, 2020, 09:57:20 AM »


9 out of the top 10 causes of death are well below the 5 year average at a time when it is agreed that the same group of people had limited access to standard healthcare

so there are two key conclusions that stand out:

Either people suddenly stopped dying of the other usual causes due to their lack of healthcare (lol)

OR the deaths that would have occurred anyway were wrongly attributed to Covid

hmmm  :-X
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #490 on: July 20, 2020, 09:59:48 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on July 20, 2020, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: illiniray on July 19, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2020, 05:54:29 PM

So what happened to emergency hospitals and ships? Why are they waiting in line? WITAF? We geared up specifically FOR THIS in March and April.

Good question. Abysmal national leadership. No consistent national plan.

Ben Sasse seems to agree with you.

“Senator Ben Sasse, Republican of Nebraska, said he wanted the administration to offer more extensive public-health updates to the American people, and condemned the open animosity toward Dr. Fauci by some administration officials, including Peter Navarro, the trade adviser, who wrote an opinion column attacking Dr. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert.”

“’I want more briefings but, more importantly, I want the whole White House to start acting like a team on a mission to tackle a real problem,’ Mr. Sasse said. ‘Navarro’s Larry, Moe and Curly junior-high slap fight this week is yet another way to undermine public confidence that these guys grasp that tens of thousands of Americans have died and tens of millions are out of work.’”

As Trump Ignores Virus Crisis, Republicans Start to Break Ranks
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/19/us/politics/republicans-contradict-trump-coronavirus.html

"I don't want to be a leader, because if I actually do something wrong in an election year I'll get blamed for it and lose my power"

"can't trump just lead for me so we can blame him in this no win situation?"

what a fucking pathetic loser

vote out every single one of these whiny pathetic losers asking for more federal mandates, as they are clearly terrible leaders
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #491 on: July 20, 2020, 10:00:44 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 20, 2020, 09:57:20 AM


9 out of the top 10 causes of death are well below the 5 year average at a time when it is agreed that the same group of people had limited access to standard healthcare

so there are two key conclusions that stand out:

Either people suddenly stopped dying of the other usual causes due to their lack of healthcare (lol)

OR the deaths that would have occurred anyway were wrongly attributed to Covid

hmmm  :-X

So, the takeaway is that the COVID is preventing deaths from other causes like car accidents? Sweet.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #492 on: July 20, 2020, 10:03:26 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 20, 2020, 09:59:48 AM
Quote from: alum74 on July 20, 2020, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: illiniray on July 19, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2020, 05:54:29 PM

So what happened to emergency hospitals and ships? Why are they waiting in line? WITAF? We geared up specifically FOR THIS in March and April.

Good question. Abysmal national leadership. No consistent national plan.

Ben Sasse seems to agree with you.

“Senator Ben Sasse, Republican of Nebraska, said he wanted the administration to offer more extensive public-health updates to the American people, and condemned the open animosity toward Dr. Fauci by some administration officials, including Peter Navarro, the trade adviser, who wrote an opinion column attacking Dr. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert.”

“’I want more briefings but, more importantly, I want the whole White House to start acting like a team on a mission to tackle a real problem,’ Mr. Sasse said. ‘Navarro’s Larry, Moe and Curly junior-high slap fight this week is yet another way to undermine public confidence that these guys grasp that tens of thousands of Americans have died and tens of millions are out of work.’”

As Trump Ignores Virus Crisis, Republicans Start to Break Ranks
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/19/us/politics/republicans-contradict-trump-coronavirus.html

"I don't want to be a leader, because if I actually do something wrong in an election year I'll get blamed for it and lose my power"

"can't trump just lead for me so we can blame him in this no win situation?"

what a fucking pathetic loser

vote out every single one of these whiny pathetic losers asking for more federal mandates, as they are clearly terrible leaders

So then you can complain about the governor of your state mandating mask wearing in public, etc.? Got it.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #493 on: July 20, 2020, 10:09:04 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 20, 2020, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 20, 2020, 09:57:20 AM


9 out of the top 10 causes of death are well below the 5 year average at a time when it is agreed that the same group of people had limited access to standard healthcare

so there are two key conclusions that stand out:

Either people suddenly stopped dying of the other usual causes due to their lack of healthcare (lol)

OR the deaths that would have occurred anyway were wrongly attributed to Covid

hmmm  :-X

So, the takeaway is that the COVID is preventing deaths from other causes like car accidents? Sweet.

yep and we all know a sedentary lifestyle is definitely reducing the number of heart attacks too!

have you been outside?  Traffic is probably 90% back to normal, it certainly would be interesting that covid would prevent car accident deaths wouldn't it
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #494 on: July 20, 2020, 10:10:37 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 20, 2020, 10:03:26 AM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 20, 2020, 09:59:48 AM
Quote from: alum74 on July 20, 2020, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: illiniray on July 19, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2020, 05:54:29 PM

So what happened to emergency hospitals and ships? Why are they waiting in line? WITAF? We geared up specifically FOR THIS in March and April.

Good question. Abysmal national leadership. No consistent national plan.

Ben Sasse seems to agree with you.

“Senator Ben Sasse, Republican of Nebraska, said he wanted the administration to offer more extensive public-health updates to the American people, and condemned the open animosity toward Dr. Fauci by some administration officials, including Peter Navarro, the trade adviser, who wrote an opinion column attacking Dr. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert.”

“’I want more briefings but, more importantly, I want the whole White House to start acting like a team on a mission to tackle a real problem,’ Mr. Sasse said. ‘Navarro’s Larry, Moe and Curly junior-high slap fight this week is yet another way to undermine public confidence that these guys grasp that tens of thousands of Americans have died and tens of millions are out of work.’”

As Trump Ignores Virus Crisis, Republicans Start to Break Ranks
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/19/us/politics/republicans-contradict-trump-coronavirus.html

"I don't want to be a leader, because if I actually do something wrong in an election year I'll get blamed for it and lose my power"

"can't trump just lead for me so we can blame him in this no win situation?"

what a fucking pathetic loser

vote out every single one of these whiny pathetic losers asking for more federal mandates, as they are clearly terrible leaders

So then you can complain about the governor of your state mandating mask wearing in public, etc.? Got it.

I'm pretty sure the mask mandates are making things worse, as it gives people a false sense of confidence and they don't take as much precaution when wearing them

but whatever
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