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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6135 on: July 18, 2024, 04:01:59 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2024, 02:30:07 PM
I’m fine with you all being comfortable shifting the goal posts time and time again while completely forgetting they told us over and over again that they were highly effective at reducing transmission/infection.

Plenty of people knew at the beginning of the pandemic that it was almost impossible to create a vaccine that had long term effectiveness against transmission/infection for coronaviruses, but that didn’t stop the media and big pharma from lying to us. The people that knew better were silent. And people wonder why there was skepticism around the vaccines. Once it was clear it didn’t do much to stop infection rates y’all backpedaled and shifted messaging to reduction of severity of symptoms. Vaccine evangelism at its finest. Then you memory holed the “90 some percent effective against infection”

February 2020:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/

It does reduce overall transmission. If you are infected and contagious for 3 days instead of for 3 weeks, your R0 is lower. QED
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6136 on: July 18, 2024, 04:04:50 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2024, 02:30:07 PM
I’m fine with you all being comfortable shifting the goal posts time and time again while completely forgetting they told us over and over again that they were highly effective at reducing transmission/infection.

Plenty of people knew at the beginning of the pandemic that it was almost impossible to create a vaccine that had long term effectiveness against transmission/infection for coronaviruses, but that didn’t stop the media and big pharma from lying to us. The people that knew better were silent. And people wonder why there was skepticism around the vaccines. Once it was clear it didn’t do much to stop infection rates y’all backpedaled and shifted messaging to reduction of severity of symptoms. Vaccine evangelism at its finest. Then you memory holed the “90 some percent effective against infection”

February 2020:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/

The impossible problem here is that most people have very basic understanding of things, and a very moderate ability to take some basic observations and make reasoned conclusions.

Let's try a test here Custard. No googling.

If I go to the top of Memorial Stadium, and drop a bowling ball and a basketball off of the top - which hits the ground first?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6137 on: July 18, 2024, 05:17:21 PM »
Should vomiting be induced in the event of accidental consumption of dihydrogen monoxide?

Is it legal in the United States for a man to marry his widow's sister?

If a plane crashes on the border of the United States and Canada, in which country are the survivors buried?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6138 on: July 18, 2024, 05:27:28 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 18, 2024, 05:17:21 PM
Should vomiting be induced in the event of accidental consumption of dihydrogen monoxide?

Is it legal in the United States for a man to marry his widow's sister?

If a plane crashes on the border of the United States and Canada, in which country are the survivors buried?

my question isn't a brainteaser or play on words
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6139 on: July 18, 2024, 06:57:34 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 18, 2024, 04:04:50 PM
The impossible problem here is that most people have very basic understanding of things, and a very moderate ability to take some basic observations and make reasoned conclusions.

Let's try a test here Custard. No googling.

If I go to the top of Memorial Stadium, and drop a bowling ball and a basketball off of the top - which hits the ground first?

Is this done in a vacuum or are we going to accout for the magnus effect
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6140 on: July 18, 2024, 07:46:04 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 18, 2024, 06:57:34 PM
Is this done in a vacuum or are we going to accout for the magnus effect

Nice spin. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6141 on: July 18, 2024, 07:49:51 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 18, 2024, 06:57:34 PM
Is this done in a vacuum or are we going to accout for the magnus effect

It's being done in your brain, so.. a vacuum
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6142 on: July 18, 2024, 07:57:59 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 18, 2024, 07:49:51 PM
It's being done in your brain, so.. a vacuum

This is your brain on memorial stadium
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6143 on: July 18, 2024, 09:49:54 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 18, 2024, 04:04:50 PM
The impossible problem here is that most people have very basic understanding of things, and a very moderate ability to take some basic observations and make reasoned conclusions.

Let's try a test here Custard. No googling.

If I go to the top of Memorial Stadium, and drop a bowling ball and a basketball off of the top - which hits the ground first?

I am fully able to make  basic observations and make reasoned conclusions. Most here make platitudes based on identity politics.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6144 on: July 18, 2024, 10:17:52 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2024, 09:49:54 PM
I am fully able to make  basic observations and make reasoned conclusions. Most here make platitudes based on identity politics.

A basic observation of a crazy ass anti-vax website written by Alex Jones and Joe Rogan, and make a reasoned conclusion
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6145 on: July 18, 2024, 10:18:51 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2024, 09:49:54 PM
I am fully able to make  basic observations and make reasoned conclusions. Most here make platitudes based on identity politics.

"Easy! A basic observation shows a bowling ball is heavier than a basketball, so it will fall faster!"

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6146 on: July 18, 2024, 10:41:51 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2024, 09:49:54 PM
Most here make platitudes based on identity politics.

That is an intellectually dishonest platitude pushed by the white identity people

 I know what I know and what I don't know. I will defer to experts in their fields.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6147 on: July 18, 2024, 10:47:05 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 18, 2024, 10:41:51 PM
That is an intellectually dishonest platitude pushed by the white identity people

 I know what I know and what I don't know. I will defer to experts in their fields.

We know. Even ones with million$ of reasons to lie to you…
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6148 on: July 18, 2024, 11:01:26 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on July 18, 2024, 10:47:05 PM
We know. Even ones with million$ of reasons to lie to you…

I don't think people who get paid for their opinions are automatically wrong.

When I am sick, I get advice from well paid, highly trained healthcare professionals. I don't consult with some anonymous smart asses on X.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6149 on: July 18, 2024, 11:28:39 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 18, 2024, 10:17:52 PM
A basic observation of a crazy ass anti-vax website written by Alex Jones and Joe Rogan, and make a reasoned conclusion

It’s been exceedingly easy to get the usual suspects to completely ignore any middle ground in the conversation. Bravo!
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