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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6120 on: July 05, 2024, 07:53:13 AM »
Yes, "they"  are spreading it on purpose....
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6121 on: July 05, 2024, 11:52:18 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6122 on: July 05, 2024, 11:53:37 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 05, 2024, 11:52:18 AM

We spell it "color" in the U.S.A.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6123 on: July 18, 2024, 11:11:21 AM »
go figure COVID gonna save us
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6124 on: July 18, 2024, 11:35:41 AM »
I’m old enough to remember when eggs and butter were bad for you, the food pyramid looked exactly like the diet we use to fatten animals for slaughter, and when the Covid vaccines were going to prevent transmission of the disease.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6125 on: July 18, 2024, 12:24:36 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2024, 11:35:41 AM
I’m old enough to remember when eggs and butter were bad for you, the food pyramid looked exactly like the diet we use to fatten animals for slaughter, and when the Covid vaccines were going to prevent transmission of the disease.

Anyone who heard the description of the vaccines and decided that it was a force shield that prevented water droplets containing viral material from entering your body is a moron. So by the transitive property - you are a moron.

Checks out
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6126 on: July 18, 2024, 12:25:10 PM »
Small pox vaccine 95% effective. Polio 90%.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6127 on: July 18, 2024, 12:29:19 PM »
The public understanding versus the biological definition of immunity.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6128 on: July 18, 2024, 12:54:59 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2024, 11:35:41 AM
I’m old enough to remember when eggs and butter were bad for you, the food pyramid looked exactly like the diet we use to fatten animals for slaughter, and when the Covid vaccines were going to prevent transmission of the disease.

The COVID vaccines did exactly what they were intended to do:  reduce illness, hospital admissions and mortality.  There was always a question mark about how much protection the vaccines would provide from infection and transmission.   
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6129 on: July 18, 2024, 02:30:07 PM »
I’m fine with you all being comfortable shifting the goal posts time and time again while completely forgetting they told us over and over again that they were highly effective at reducing transmission/infection.

Plenty of people knew at the beginning of the pandemic that it was almost impossible to create a vaccine that had long term effectiveness against transmission/infection for coronaviruses, but that didn’t stop the media and big pharma from lying to us. The people that knew better were silent. And people wonder why there was skepticism around the vaccines. Once it was clear it didn’t do much to stop infection rates y’all backpedaled and shifted messaging to reduction of severity of symptoms. Vaccine evangelism at its finest. Then you memory holed the “90 some percent effective against infection”

February 2020:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6130 on: July 18, 2024, 02:37:14 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2024, 02:30:07 PM
I’m fine with you all being comfortable shifting the goal posts time and time again while completely forgetting they told us over and over again that they were highly effective at reducing transmission/infection.

Plenty of people knew at the beginning of the pandemic that it was almost impossible to create a vaccine that had long term effectiveness against transmission/infection for coronaviruses, but that didn’t stop the media and big pharma from lying to us. The people that knew better were silent. And people wonder why there was skepticism around the vaccines. Once it was clear it didn’t do much to stop infection rates y’all backpedaled and shifted messaging to reduction of severity of symptoms. Vaccine evangelism at its finest. Then you memory holed the “90 some percent effective against infection”

February 2020:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/

And the ones that didn’t stay silent were called conspiracy theorists and feared for their jobs/lost their job if they spoke up/didn’t get vaccinated and the BS we were being fed.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6131 on: July 18, 2024, 02:52:47 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 18, 2024, 02:30:07 PM
I’m fine with you all being comfortable shifting the goal posts time and time again while completely forgetting they told us over and over again that they were highly effective at reducing transmission/infection.

Plenty of people knew at the beginning of the pandemic that it was almost impossible to create a vaccine that had long term effectiveness against transmission/infection for coronaviruses, but that didn’t stop the media and big pharma from lying to us. The people that knew better were silent. And people wonder why there was skepticism around the vaccines. Once it was clear it didn’t do much to stop infection rates y’all backpedaled and shifted messaging to reduction of severity of symptoms. Vaccine evangelism at its finest. Then you memory holed the “90 some percent effective against infection”

February 2020:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/

Fictional revisionism: the main goal of the vaccines were to prevent severe illness or death.


 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6132 on: July 18, 2024, 03:13:05 PM »
There was a lot of mixed messaging partly because of the Internet and partly because of the novelty.

Even so-called official positions from the authorities were sometimes contradictory. There was internal confusion on some issues.

Bottom line is the vaccines reduced the spread of covid and reduced the severity of infections. They did not totally prevent the spread / infection. That is true of vaccines in general. Somehow the angry right thinks that is a bad thing.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6133 on: July 18, 2024, 03:20:13 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 18, 2024, 03:13:05 PM
There was a lot of mixed messaging partly because of the Internet and partly because of the novelty.

Even so-called official positions from the authorities were sometimes contradictory. There was internal confusion on some issues.

Bottom line is the vaccines reduced the spread of covid and reduced the severity of infections. They did not totally prevent the spread / infection. That is true of vaccines in general. Somehow the angry right thinks that is a bad thing.

We were forced to comply and forced to have it shoved down our throats or else risk our jobs/livelihoods. Without anybody ever having any idea of the consequences and long-term effects of doing so. Gtfooh with that BS. You talk about Naziism with Trump, what the fuck do you call that shit they forced upon 98% of society?!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6134 on: July 18, 2024, 03:40:33 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 18, 2024, 03:13:05 PM
There was a lot of mixed messaging partly because of the Internet and partly because of the novelty.

Even so-called official positions from the authorities were sometimes contradictory. There was internal confusion on some issues.

Bottom line is the vaccines reduced the spread of covid and reduced the severity of infections. They did not totally prevent the spread / infection. That is true of vaccines in general. Somehow the angry right thinks that is a bad thing.

The 3 people that died from it that I worked with when I was still in Decatur all refused the Vaccine.  Of everyone that did receive that vaccine, none of them died.  All of them are still alive too.



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