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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6150 on: July 18, 2024, 11:39:59 PM »
I don't think people who get paid for their opinions are automatically wrong.

When I am sick, I get advice from well paid, highly trained healthcare professionals. I don't consult with some anonymous smart asses on X.

But can you also understand that many medical professionals are essentially trained in situ by drug reps?

A big chunk of our social circle is comprised of medical professionals.

Medical professionals go through school to learn physiology. Afterwards, when they go to work, they prescribe (sell) drugs and procedures. Because that’s how everyone makes money.

Most of them don’t fully grasp the fact that they are de facto drug dealers because they’re so overworked they don’t stop to think about it.

When the drugs don’t work, they sell excessively expensive procedures. They don’t see it as selling, but that’s that they do.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6151 on: July 18, 2024, 11:42:17 PM »
The 3 people that died from it that I worked with when I was still in Decatur all refused the Vaccine.  Of everyone that did receive that vaccine, none of them died.  All of them are still alive too.



Shocking.

Living in Decatur is a comorbidity if I ever heard one.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6152 on: July 19, 2024, 01:25:36 AM »
But can you also understand that many medical professionals are essentially trained in situ by drug reps?

A big chunk of our social circle is comprised of medical professionals.

Medical professionals go through school to learn physiology. Afterwards, when they go to work, they prescribe (sell) drugs and procedures. Because that’s how everyone makes money.

Most of them don’t fully grasp the fact that they are de facto drug dealers because they’re so overworked they don’t stop to think about it.

When the drugs don’t work, they sell excessively expensive procedures. They don’t see it as selling, but that’s that they do.


This is cynical and inaccurate. Drug therapy is often used as an alternative to invasive procedures.

You left out other treatments such as  nutrition, including dietary supplements. Also physical, occupational,  and cognitive therapy.

I would not describe life saving heart procedures like balloon angioplasty, by-passes, and valve repairs or replacements as excessively expensive. Nor are they due to failures of medicines.

The leading causes of advanced heart disease  are probably genetic and tobacco addiction.

I am old enough to remember when we were told the huge tobacco taxes and settlements were justified to pay for the costs of smokers illnesses.

The main causes of cancer appear to be smoking, environmental pollution, and genetics. Drug therapy and procedures tend to go hand and hand, depending on the type, stage, etc.

There is room for reform in the area of price gouging by drug companies in particular. That is another story. We need national health insurance.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6153 on: July 19, 2024, 06:17:57 AM »
But can you also understand that many medical professionals are essentially trained in situ by drug reps?

A big chunk of our social circle is comprised of medical professionals.

Medical professionals go through school to learn physiology. Afterwards, when they go to work, they prescribe (sell) drugs and procedures. Because that’s how everyone makes money.

Most of them don’t fully grasp the fact that they are de facto drug dealers because they’re so overworked they don’t stop to think about it.

When the drugs don’t work, they sell excessively expensive procedures. They don’t see it as selling, but that’s that they do.

Look no further than the OxyContin epidemic…

The more doctors prescribe, the more they make…
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6154 on: July 19, 2024, 07:08:29 AM »
Look no further than the OxyContin epidemic…

The more doctors prescribe, the more they make…

Not true. That would be totally  illegal, but there are a couple loopholes. They can get rewarded to promote a company's line of products. They can get invited to educational seminars that are really lavish vacations.

Mark Levin says free markets are the solution. This is one sector where free markets are the problem.

Most MDs, DOs, and NPs are making sincere efforts to help their patients.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6155 on: July 19, 2024, 07:58:42 AM »
It’s been exceedingly easy to get the usual suspects to completely ignore any middle ground in the conversation. Bravo!

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6156 on: July 19, 2024, 08:04:09 AM »
The leading causes of advanced heart disease  are probably genetic and tobacco addiction.

The main causes of cancer appear to be smoking, environmental pollution, and genetics. Drug therapy and procedures tend to go hand and hand, depending on the type, stage, etc.

You're neglecting diet here. Obesity tops the list.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6157 on: July 19, 2024, 08:52:12 AM »
You're neglecting diet here. Obesity tops the list.

My oversight, although obesity is also tied to genetics. Lack of exercise too, not just diet. I think I mentioned nutrition as treatment
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6158 on: July 19, 2024, 09:21:32 AM »
What's the middle ground between science and superstition?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6159 on: August 07, 2024, 11:24:28 PM »
Mn!

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2821581

TL:DR: States with masking and vaccine mandates had far less excess deaths than states without such mandates.

Shouldn't be shocking,  except to a few here and on The Twotter, The FaceBook, everyone on The Truth Social... .
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6160 on: August 08, 2024, 06:23:40 AM »
What's the middle ground between science and superstition?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6161 on: August 08, 2024, 07:29:31 AM »
Good one, Tempo
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6162 on: August 21, 2024, 09:59:11 PM »
People here told us it was nothing to worry about. May explain Trump's and Biden's meltdowns

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13761733/DEMENTIA-cases-covid-research-corona-virus-alzheimers.html

A new study has added fuel to concerns that America could face a surge in dementias in coming years and decades due to COVID. 

The research found that nearly two-thirds of people over 65 who were hospitalized with the virus went on to suffer cognitive decline, which can be a precursor for dementia, weeks and months after the infection cleared.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6163 on: August 21, 2024, 10:29:39 PM »
People here told us it was nothing to worry about. May explain Trump's and Biden's meltdowns

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13761733/DEMENTIA-cases-covid-research-corona-virus-alzheimers.html

A new study has added fuel to concerns that America could face a surge in dementias in coming years and decades due to COVID.

The research found that nearly two-thirds of people over 65 who were hospitalized with the virus went on to suffer cognitive decline, which can be a precursor for dementia, weeks and months after the infection cleared.

That explains why Harris is outperforming Biden 2020 in the over 65 demographic - they've all lost their damn minds!

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6164 on: August 21, 2024, 10:35:01 PM »
People here told us it was nothing to worry about. May explain Trump's and Biden's meltdowns

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13761733/DEMENTIA-cases-covid-research-corona-virus-alzheimers.html

A new study has added fuel to concerns that America could face a surge in dementias in coming years and decades due to COVID.

The research found that nearly two-thirds of people over 65 who were hospitalized with the virus went on to suffer cognitive decline, which can be a precursor for dementia, weeks and months after the infection cleared.

Better start taking Joe Rogan’s Alpha Brain supplement!
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