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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: IVMP on March 16, 2023, 04:13:06 PM
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I vote for Option 1.
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He's never leaving. Guenther Jr. loves him
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He's never leaving. Guenther Jr. loves him
And so do we.
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And so do we.
Yes, you do. BTC
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Yes, you do. BTC
Did you just call me Bitcoin?
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Another question. How many guys hit the portal?
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Why would he leave? We have idiots like Spark in the fanbase who think he is awesome! Fucker is stealing money and Spark, and others bend over and just love it.
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PAMan meltdown incoming. Let’s go!
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Another question. How many guys hit the portal?
Our guys would miss it.
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Our guys would miss it.
😂
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And so do we.
We could do worse
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PAMan meltdown incoming. Let’s go!
That’s like every other day now. Nothing new.
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We could do worse
We could, and have. But I think there’s enough talent out there we could replace him adequately if he left.
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Leave? Brad says we were a team no one wants to play in March.
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Seriously he’s not going anywhere but he’s gotta get it done in the tourney.
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Leave? Brad says we were a team no one wants to play in March.
Perhaps because he expected us to be in the NIT?
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Another question. How many guys hit the portal?
Hopefully none of Epps, Harris or Rodgers.
Melendez maybe.
Hawkins?
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PAMan meltdown incoming. Let’s go!
Fucking why Illinois doesn't do shit in sports people care about. Fucking Cub-like fans. Fucking pathetic.
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That’s like every other day now. Nothing new.
Oh. He won 20 games 4 years in a row! Oh, he's won the regular season title! Oh. he won the B1G tourney! Who the fuck cares when you have 2 AA and can't get to the S16? Idiots.
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Leave? Brad says we were a team no one wants to play in March.
He meant to say watch, not play.
And he better say this year is on him.
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And he better say this year is on him.
You are kidding, right?
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You are kidding, right?
Lol.
I wasn't thinking.
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Underwood has the same benefit that Fran McCaffrey has. Since they followed really bad coaches, they have a never ending leash of allowed mediocrity.
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Underwood has the same benefit that Fran McCaffrey has. Since they followed really bad coaches, they have a never ending leash of allowed mediocrity.
He's the Glen Mason of B1G basketball coaches.
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Another question. How many guys hit the portal?
Am seeing rumors of Epps being gone along with Dainja, which would mean the top 6 scorers are gone assuming Hawkins goes pro. Essentially the same kind of big scoring loss as last year and there's no Ayo or Kofi incoming to save Brad.
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Am seeing rumors of Epps being gone along with Dainja, which would mean the top 6 scorers are gone assuming Hawkins goes pro. Essentially the same kind of big scoring loss as last year and there's no Ayo or Kofi incoming to save Brad.
If those two leave just fire Underwood. I realize this is a different era, but my god, how many transfers can you have in two years? We could be talking 5 this year.
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If those two leave just fire Underwood. I realize this is a different era, but my god, how many transfers can you have in two years? We could be talking 5 this year.
A guy with Brad's temperament might work 10 years ago. This generation of kids are too sensitive for Brad and the more loose transfer rules don't help.
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He and McCaffrey should be fired. Iowa gave up at least 50 points in the second half and made many dumb mistakes.
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We're in the tournament for the 3rd straight year. De facto 4th straight year. That's a level of regular success we haven't had since Bill Self's last recruits left campus. So let's be real, right now he's not on the hot seat and shouldn't be.
The tournament record is abysmal and the personnel management is suspect. This year's B1G play without Ayo or Kofi was a Groce-plus. I think it's going to take two years to get him on a hot seat with Bro Guenther as the AD, and I don't think Brad takes another job in the meantime with K-State in a good poition, Texas having a better candidate, etc. At this point I think the most likely scenario is that he retires from Illinois to a calmer life. He's roughly the same age as Jay Wright, and he's coming across as an advertisement to happy post-coaching life. Gets closer to 65 I could see him saying no more of this as most guys in their 60s do.
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As to transfer portal, I hope we have Epps, Harris, Melendez, Goode, Rodgers, and Dainja are back as a core, and if Shannon or Hawkins want to come back you're not stopping them, I guess. I could see Epps or Melendez leaving. Dainja would surprise me. Lieb would not either way. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next few days.
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Brad needs to recruit more guys with mental toughness like Goode, Harris, and Rodgers.
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We're in the tournament for the 3rd straight year. De facto 4th straight year. That's a level of regular success we haven't had since Bill Self's last recruits left campus. So let's be real, right now he's not on the hot seat and shouldn't be.
The tournament record is abysmal and the personnel management is suspect. This year's B1G play without Ayo or Kofi was a Groce-plus. I think it's going to take two years to get him on a hot seat with Bro Guenther as the AD, and I don't think Brad takes another job in the meantime with K-State in a good poition, Texas having a better candidate, etc. At this point I think the most likely scenario is that he retires from Illinois to a calmer life. He's roughly the same age as Jay Wright, and he's coming across as an advertisement to happy post-coaching life. Gets closer to 65 I could see him saying no more of this as most guys in their 60s do.
This is the path to Rutgers/Nebraska-level program performance.
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Brad needs to recruit more guys with mental toughness like Goode, Harris, and Rodgers.
He needs Illini Guardians to pay tougher guys to overcome his crap Tournament coaching.
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There is no way Tempo is reading Calvin's posts. TL;TDR. Too long;Tempo didn't read
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He needs Illini Guardians to pay tougher guys to overcome his crap Tournament coaching.
Guys that can handle being yelled at.
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There is no way Tempo is reading Calvin's posts. TL;TDR. Too long;Tempo didn't read
Yo Tempo, I think Brad is here until he gently retires.
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This is the path to Rutgers/Nebraska-level program performance.
When have either of those schools made 3 straight tournaments or won the B1G?
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When have either of those schools made 3 straight tournaments or won the B1G?
"Path to" implies heading in the direction of Rutgers/Nebraska. Which is where we're going if we can't develop any players, can't run an offensive scheme, keep relying on other teams' rejects, and keep getting below-average coaching.
(Also, Rutgers would have made three straight tournaments if the 2020 tournament had been played.)
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Underwood isn't going anywhere, other than the film room and the recruiting trail.
He might want to consider several sessions with Micah Shrewsberry and with someone well versed in dealing with bipolar kids.
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Underwood isn't going anywhere, other than the film room
Maybe he will see Justin Fields in there.
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Yo Tempo, I think Brad is here until he gently retires.
That sounds a bit unfortunate.
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I used to say all the time that the only way he wouldn’t retire here was if he got in trouble with the NCAA. Not so sure anymore.
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According to the Loyalty insiders he is actively looking for a new gig and Sean Miller is the coach in waiting. Given how things have gone, better put your cups on fellas!
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According to the Loyalty insiders he is actively looking for a new gig and Sean Miller is the coach in waiting. Given how things have gone, better put your cups on fellas!
Ohhhhhh, you are setting me up for a nut punch here!
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Why would he leave? We have idiots like Spark in the fanbase who think he is awesome! Fucker is stealing money and Spark, and others bend over and just love it.
Why would he want to stay?
You can bring a program back from the dead and dipshits like this who have never known success in their whole fucking lives will act like they can do it better than you.
You're seriously the dumbest person on this board, and JudgeJudy posts here.
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"Path to" implies heading in the direction of Rutgers/Nebraska. Which is where we're going if we can't develop any players, can't run an offensive scheme, keep relying on other teams' rejects, and keep getting below-average coaching.
(Also, Rutgers would have made three straight tournaments if the 2020 tournament had been played.)
You seem pretty poorly versed in how "trends" work if you think our trend line is headed towards Nebraska.
Obviously having read your posts before, nobody is surprised.
Underwood's had four tournament teams here in 6 years. The Nebraska basketball program has had seven tournament teams. Ever.
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You seem pretty poorly versed in how "trends" work if you think our trend line is headed towards Nebraska.
Obviously having read your posts before, nobody is surprised.
Underwood's had four tournament teams here in 6 years. The Nebraska basketball program has had seven tournament teams. Ever.
Hey Spark, I'll bet you $100 IVMP doesn't answer you.
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I saw he was banned.
Be racist, a bigot, a homophobe, call me a fag, fake your death, all good.
But post too much about Underwood!
Obviously I'm not surprised.
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Why would he want to stay?
You can bring a program back from the dead and dipshits like this who have never known success in their whole fucking lives will act like they can do it better than you.
You're seriously the dumbest person on this board, and JudgeJudy posts here.
Just because he his not completely incompetent like Weber and Groce does not make him a great coach. Competent, but not great. He had Ayo and Kofu and could not get his team ready for the 2d game of The Tourney. Yeah, he is so fucking great. Worth every dollar of being a top 10 paid coach. The merry men are back fucking at it. Harv Mandrill, everybody.
You are seriously the whiniest bitch on this board, and Tempo posts here.
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I saw he was banned.
Be racist, a bigot, a homophobe, call me a fag, fake your death, all good.
But post too much about Underwood!
Obviously I'm not surprised.
Not sure how "fake your death" fits in with the rest of those, but ok.
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Not sure how "fake your death" fits in with the rest of those, but ok.
Probably falls under “act/post insanely mentally ill.”
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Probably falls under “act/post insanely mentally ill.”
It was a bit. It appears at least one person was taken in by it. "Catfished" if you will.
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The guy who was angry about Simone Biles “quitting on her country” just called me whiney.
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It was a bit. It appears at least one person was taken in by it. "Catfished" if you will.
Yay. A rather deranged bit. But, sure. Let’s catfish away!
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The guy who was angry about Simone Biles “quitting on her country” just called me whiney.
You are the biggest self-proclaimed martyr here.
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You are the biggest self-proclaimed martyr here.
Everything I’ve said is true. If it bothered me as much as you seem to think it does, I’d have quit posting years ago.
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Everything I’ve said is true. If it bothered me as much as you seem to think it does, I’d have quit posting years ago.
{Unknowingly proves point...}
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Should we post a GoFundMe for Underachiever's buyout?
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{Unknowingly proves point...}
I’m well aware of the fact I’ve aired grievances. Again, no other poster has been “memed” to the degree I have. It’s not close. Don’t really care if you think I’m proclaiming my martyrdom.
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I’m well aware of the fact I’ve aired grievances. Again, no other poster has been “memed” to the degree I have. It’s not close. Don’t really care if you think I’m proclaiming my martyrdom.
The day is young.
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I saw he was banned.
Be racist, a bigot, a homophobe, call me a fag, fake your death, all good.
But post too much about Underwood!
Obviously I'm not surprised.
You think I should be banned for faking my death, on a different board, years ago?
Interesting.
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You think I should be banned for faking my death, on a different board, years ago?
Interesting.
Notice that telling someone to "suck dick" was not listed.
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Probably falls under “act/post insanely mentally ill.”
I think you are very far from qualified to diagnose someone as mentally ill.
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I saw he was banned.
Be racist, a bigot, a homophobe, call me a fag, fake your death, all good.
But post too much about Underwood!
Obviously I'm not surprised.
Yay, another oversimplistic view on IVMP’s banning.
It’s not about a comment here and there, it’s about making the bread and butter of this forum completely unreadable day after day during March Madness with the same repetitive arguments. And ignoring multiple warnings. It had zero to do with Underwood.
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I think you are very far from qualified to diagnose someone as mentally ill.
Are you sure that driving for Uber is not the same as staying at a Holiday Inn Express?
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The day is young.
I’ve been up since 4:30. Speak for yourself.
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I’ve been up since 4:30. Speak for yourself.
I've been up since 4:30 as well. Not by choice. Dog decided to start puking.
Awesome start to the day!
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I’ve been up since 4:30. Speak for yourself.
I have no clue who replaced Les Grobstein overnights on The Score.
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Yay, another oversimplistic view on IVMP’s banning.
It’s not about a comment here and there, it’s about making the bread and butter of this forum completely unreadable day after day during March Madness with the same repetitive arguments. And ignoring multiple warnings. It had zero to do with Underwood.
https://youtu.be/Gi7q5zZfSU8
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Not sure how "fake your death" fits in with the rest of those, but ok.
Yeah, I'm not sure if I should be pissed about that or not. If he wants to lump me in with all of the other bad shit, I guess it's his right.
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Yay, another oversimplistic view on IVMP’s banning.
It’s not about a comment here and there, it’s about making the bread and butter of this forum completely unreadable day after day during March Madness with the same repetitive arguments. And ignoring multiple warnings. It had zero to do with Underwood.
Would much rather read IVMP’s nonsense than another post telling someone they’re a fag or suck my dick or you’re a retard. But that’s why I don’t come watch this trainwreck very often.
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I have no clue who replaced Les Grobstein overnights on The Score.
I am sort of friends with his girlfriend Kathy. Had a couple of chances to meet Les, but never came to fruition. Les once messaged me on messenger to meet him and Kathy at a George Thorogood show in Elk Grove. He saw me post that I was there. I looked around a bit, but didn’t see them. Had my kid with me so i knew I wouldn’t be able to stay the whole show. A few months later he was dead.
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Would much rather read IVMP’s nonsense than another post telling someone they’re a fag or suck my dick or you’re a retard. But that’s why I don’t come watch this trainwreck very often.
I agree. But everyone gets up in arms if you use the words dimwit or dipshit occasionally. And then it’s a free for all.
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Spark and Tempo are the model of civility on a message board. We should only hope to be perfect people like them.
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Spark and I had, what I thought, were a few positive DM exchanges last we talked. I guess that was all bullshit.
Oh well.
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Spark and I had, what I thought, were a few positive DM exchanges last we talked. I guess that was all bullshit.
Oh well.
Don’t know why that would surprise you. We’ve had a few moments where we patched up our differences; then things quickly blow up.
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I agree. But everyone gets up in arms if you use the words dimwit or dipshit occasionally. And then it’s a free for all.
Straw. The issue was your claim you do not insult anyone, aside from you claiming these are "generic" insults.
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I am sort of friends with his girlfriend Kathy. Had a couple of chances to meet Les, but never came to fruition. Les once messaged me on messenger to meet him and Kathy at a George Thorogood show in Elk Grove. He saw me post that I was there. I looked around a bit, but didn’t see them. Had my kid with me so i knew I wouldn’t be able to stay the whole show. A few months later he was dead.
You took your kid to see George Thorogood? Did you leave before One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer?
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Don’t know why that would surprise you. We’ve had a few moments where we patched up our differences; then things quickly blow up.
Valid point, but I haven't done anything, or really said shit to Spark since then. That's why it would surprise me.
Again, whatever. No skin off my ass either way.
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Straw. The issue was your claim you do not insult anyone, aside from you claiming these are "generic" insults.
I certainly don’t go to the lengths of pretending to know what their significant others or exes experience. Or go out of my way to make things extra personal, but I’m not surprised you can’t tell the difference between these things and the occasional use of the words dimwit or dipshit. I can assure you I wouldn’t complain about it if you occasionally called me dipshit.
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You took your kid to see George Thorogood? Did you leave before One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer?
1) Yes. Was a free show in Elk Grove. Always wanted to see him. Literally found out he was playing there for free about 30 minutes before the show.
2) Of course not. But we did leave about 3/4s of the way through as I recall.
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1) Yes. Was a free show in Elk Grove. Always wanted to see him. Literally found out he was playing there for free about 30 minutes before the show.
2) Of course not. But we did leave about 3/4s of the way through as I recall.
I would have thought One Bourbon was the finale for the encore, but it was probably Bad to the Bone.
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I would have thought One Bourbon was the finale for the encore, but it was probably Bad to the Bone.
Feel like I saw both, but my recollection could be off. Now that I think about it, I think we took off as the show was ending. Trying to get ahead of the crowd, which wasn’t small.
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Don’t know why that would surprise you. We’ve had a few moments where we patched up our differences; then things quickly blow up.
I actually like you, though. I get heated when I argue with you, but have never had anything but positive things to say about you overall (in a non-jokey way, at least). You're a good dude IMO.
For what it's worth, the last time Jobu and I had a discussion via PM he basically said, "My bad, I was drunk and out of line" and I said, "You're good man".
A couple months before, he'd finished his PM to me with
"You know what? Go fuck yourself, Spark. How does that sound. Go fuck yourself and eat a pile of shit and dicks. Fire on me on the board all you want. God damn."
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I actually like you, though.
For what it's worth, the last time Jobu and I had a discussion via PM he basically said, "My bad, I was drunk and out of line" and I said, "You're good man".
A couple months before, he'd finished his PM to me with
"You know what? Go fuck yourself, Spark. How does that sound. Go fuck yourself and eat a pile of shit and dicks. Fire on me on the board all you want. God damn."
Sounds like classic Jobu.
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I actually like you, though.
For what it's worth, the last time Jobu and I had a discussion via PM he basically said, "My bad, I was drunk and out of line" and I said, "You're good man".
A couple months before, he'd finished his PM to me with
"You know what? Go fuck yourself, Spark. How does that sound. Go fuck yourself and eat a pile of shit and dicks. Fire on me on the board all you want. God damn."
😂🤣
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I actually like you, though. I get heated when I argue with you, but have never had anything but positive things to say about you overall (in a non-jokey way, at least). You're a good dude IMO.
For what it's worth, the last time Jobu and I had a discussion via PM he basically said, "My bad, I was drunk and out of line" and I said, "You're good man".
A couple months before, he'd finished his PM to me with
"You know what? Go fuck yourself, Spark. How does that sound. Go fuck yourself and eat a pile of shit and dicks. Fire on me on the board all you want. God damn."
I read that last part in Jobu’s voice. Or at least what I think Jobu’s voice sounds like. Sounds like what he’d say verbatim.
Yeah, I always respected and liked you too. Even when we got heated. You made me work hard to defend my positions. I miss that.
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I actually like you, though. I get heated when I argue with you, but have never had anything but positive things to say about you overall (in a non-jokey way, at least). You're a good dude IMO.
For what it's worth, the last time Jobu and I had a discussion via PM he basically said, "My bad, I was drunk and out of line" and I said, "You're good man".
A couple months before, he'd finished his PM to me with
"You know what? Go fuck yourself, Spark. How does that sound. Go fuck yourself and eat a pile of shit and dicks. Fire on me on the board all you want. God damn."
Haha, yeah, forgot about that one. Oh well. Like I said, I thought we were on good terms. If we're not, well, please don't be offended if I don't lose sleep over it.
I have apologized to you. That's as far as I'm willing to take it. I thought we were good.
I'm not going to apologize to you again, and I'm sure as hell not going to beg for forgiveness.
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Haha, yeah, forgot about that one. Oh well. Like I said, I thought we were on good terms. If we're not, well, please don't be offended if I don't lose sleep over it.
I have apologized to you. That's as far as I'm willing to take it. I thought we were good.
I'm not going to apologize to you again, and I'm sure as hell not going to beg for forgiveness.
Maybe your "son" could do that for you.
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Even when we got heated I never once thought of you as a “bad guy.”
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Maybe your "son" could do that for you.
Lol, yeah. I suppose.
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I read that last part in Jobu’s voice. Or at least what I think Jobu’s voice sounds like. Sounds like what he’d say verbatim.
It should, I copied and pasted it.
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It should, I copied and pasted it.
Confirmed. I said it.
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Maybe your "son" could do that for you.
Now THAT was funny.
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Now THAT was funny.
Agreed.
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Haha, yeah, forgot about that one. Oh well. Like I said, I thought we were on good terms. If we're not, well, please don't be offended if I don't lose sleep over it.
I have apologized to you. That's as far as I'm willing to take it. I thought we were good.
I'm not going to apologize to you again, and I'm sure as hell not going to beg for forgiveness.
Maybe you were just drunk.
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Now THAT was funny.
Thank you, Tempo.
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Maybe you were just drunk.
Who knows. That was a while ago.
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Damn, we’ve got the gang back together. I never want to let go of this moment…
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Damn, we’ve got the gang back together. I never want to let go of this moment…
Now this is sig worthy.
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Why would he want to stay?
You can bring a program back from the dead and dipshits like this who have never known success in their whole fucking lives will act like they can do it better than you.
You're seriously the dumbest person on this board, and JudgeJudy posts here.
Brad Underwood without Kofi Cockburn on the roster is a very mediocre Big 10 coach. He’s basically Fran McCaffrey. Now if you want to be a low expectation having loser that is just happy to have a coach better than Lickliter or Groce, then you’ll be happy with it.
If you have higher aspirations, that ain’t good enough.
Let’s hope Josh Whitman is a winner, and boots this piece of shit to Texas Tech or wherever
Once the mandate of hiring incompetent minorities was lifted, Whitman has been a pretty good AD since then, and landing Sean Miller and Bret Bielema would be absolute killer.
So quit bitching. We know you love mediocrity. That ain’t good enough anymore
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Who knows. That was a while ago.
Plus it was a day that ends in "y."
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Damn, we’ve got the gang back together. I never want to let go of this moment…
Narrator: "And then, Dominic showed up...."
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Now this is sig worthy.
Lol. True.
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Confirmed. I said it.
Deny everything. Admit to nothing.
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Maybe you were just drunk.
And beating or raping his kid 🤷🏻♂️
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And beating or raping his kid 🤷🏻♂️
Lol, yeah. Ok
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Lol, yeah. Ok
Hey man, it’s just par for the course here… 😁
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Hey man, it’s just par for the course here… 😁
Yep! No doubt.
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The only issue I have with Underwood is the Loyola game. It wasn't the fact they beat us but the fact they manhandled us
We never lead. We were down 5 with 6:08 left in 1st half and that's as close as we got
Then Loyola went and lost to 12 seed oregon st
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Lol, yeah. Ok
Is your sig new, or am I just now noticing it?
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FaninCa, did you see that your guy Bob from IlliniBoard had a lengthy screed the other day whining about media credentials, etc., instead of writing about Underachiever's alleged job searching?
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Is your sig new, or am I just now noticing it?
It's not new. Been there for weeks.
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It's not new. Been there for weeks.
Yeah, think I saw it and just forgot about it.
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The “Somebody’s mult” quote is amazing.
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The “Somebody’s mult” quote is amazing.
Spark undoubtedly thinks otherwise.
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It's not new. Been there for weeks.
3-5, douchebag.
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The “Somebody’s mult” quote is amazing.
The whole sig is something to be proud of, for sure.
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The whole sig is something to be proud of, for sure.
Lol
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On a side note...if BU would leave, I would be okay with the Fla Atlantic coach.
That said in hindsite, I think BU may actually be undervalued after this year. ;D
Took a Top 3 Transfer class (arguably #1), couldn't get them to mesh with a regular everyday guy (Hawkins), whom still hasn't lived up to NBA potential.
While trying to get them to mesh with injuries and the lead 5* PG defecting, he still managed to get us to the NCAA tourney, while using the same old tired tantrum coaching style.
BU never seems to get the most out of any of our players, plays wrong lineups all the time, and can't seem to get the momentum to stay for an entire year start to finish. Melendez HAS to be a GOTO player with or without Hawk/TSJ next year...assuming he doesn't jump into the portal.
A standard that I have noticed with almost every coach since Self....NO player at the end of the year is jacked about coming back, or at least isn't public about it? BU has got to find a better way to motivate and get the best out of our players without the constant vein popping, tantrum, sweaty face look/sound every game.
At the end of the day, the players gotta perform, but the coaches have to put them in the best environment/conditions to do so, not sure BU has/can do this?
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“without the constant vein popping, tantrum, sweaty face look/sound every game.”
I thought that was a feature when he was hired, not a bug?
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There are plausible scenarios that could have Underwood leaving this off-season for another job.
The big variable is Texas. Rodney Terry had a mediocre record as a head coach elsewhere . Do they want him? He also has other options.
If Terry is not promoted, or he decides to go elsewhere:
Tang to Texas; Underwood to KSU?
Calipari to Texas, Underwood to UK?
Other options pass, Underwood to Texas?
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Bad news for the Underwood to Texas (or anywhere for that matter) crowd
https://twitter.com/ChipBrown247/status/1640182488638128131
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On a side note...if BU would leave, I would be okay with the Fla Atlantic coach.
I've seen a lot of this, and frankly I love it. I think May has the potential to be a really good coach, for sure, and obviously he's done an amazing job this year.
He was also 65-56 overall and 34-32 in C-USA in his four years there coming into this year.
Our fans would never, ever, ever put up with results like that.
I saw people say the same thing about Larranga. He recently finished a 3-year stretch where he was 39-51 (16-41). He would never even have had the chance to make this Final Four at Illinois, because we would've run him out of town.
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Bad news for the Underwood to Texas (or anywhere for that matter) crowd
https://twitter.com/ChipBrown247/status/1640182488638128131
Who is going to go over to Loyalty to read what BReal has to say about this? I just cannot bring myself to read any more of that crap over there.
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I've seen a lot of this, and frankly I love it. I think May has the potential to be a really good coach, for sure, and obviously he's done an amazing job this year.
He was also 65-56 overall and 34-32 in C-USA in his four years there coming into this year.
Our fans would never, ever, ever put up with results like that.
I saw people say the same thing about Larranga. He recently finished a 3-year stretch where he was 39-51 (16-41). He would never even have had the chance to make this Final Four at Illinois, because we would've run him out of town.
Yeah, people baffle me with the shit they spew.
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Who is going to go over to Loyalty to read what BReal has to say about this? I just cannot bring myself to read any more of that crap over there.
Not me, lol. No fucking way.
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I've seen a lot of this, and frankly I love it. I think May has the potential to be a really good coach, for sure, and obviously he's done an amazing job this year.
He was also 65-56 overall and 34-32 in C-USA in his four years there coming into this year.
Our fans would never, ever, ever put up with results like that.
I saw people say the same thing about Larranga. He recently finished a 3-year stretch where he was 39-51 (16-41). He would never even have had the chance to make this Final Four at Illinois, because we would've run him out of town.
but but muh recent success in a single elimination tournament totally proves their coaching chops
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Dainja apparently returning.
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Good news. Sounds like the only dude going out the door is going to be Epps.
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Good news. Sounds like the only dude going out the door is going to be Epps.
And even then you don’t know that to be true.
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but but muh recent success in a single elimination tournament totally proves their coaching chops
TnT Groce says "Hello!!!"
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https://www.thechampaignroom.com/2023/3/26/23657151/comparing-underwoods-tenure-to-elite-8-coaches-hurley-few-ncaa-big-ten-miami-uconn-final-four-elite
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2023-24 will be Underwood’s last at Illinois. It’s shaping up to be one of the worst rosters ever assembled.
Lawhorn (assuming he shows up)
Harris
Goode
Rodgers
Dainja
20+ losses if that’s the squad. One of the worst Illini teams of all time
They should have lost 15+ with normal luck/schedule with Shannon/Hawkins/Mayer/Epps. Take those 4 off and 20 losses should be a sure thing
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2023-24 will be Underwood’s last at Illinois. It’s shaping up to be one of the worst rosters ever assembled.
Lawhorn (assuming he shows up)
Harris
Goode
Rodgers
Dainja
20+ losses if that’s the squad. One of the worst Illini teams of all time
They should have lost 15+ with normal luck/schedule with Shannon/Hawkins/Mayer/Epps. Take those 4 off and 20 losses should be a sure thing
I would expect hawkins and melendez will be on the team too, maybe even Shannon, and the transfer portal has just opened so you have no fucking clue what this team will look like next season ya dumbfuck, not to mention your freshman never get better theory here as well
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2023-24 will be Underwood’s last at Illinois. It’s shaping up to be one of the worst rosters ever assembled.
Lawhorn (assuming he shows up)
Harris
Goode
Rodgers
Dainja
20+ losses if that’s the squad. One of the worst Illini teams of all time
They should have lost 15+ with normal luck/schedule with Shannon/Hawkins/Mayer/Epps. Take those 4 off and 20 losses should be a sure thing
Ugh curse of Squeaky. Brad will be around 10 more years now.
Give it a few months before making an idiotic prediction.
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So no one is willing to admit they went over to Loyalty to read the shit the purported insiders are spinning? And no one in Illini Nation thinks we have standards over here?
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He was also 65-56 overall and 34-32 in C-USA in his four years there coming into this year.
Underwood is 31-45 in conference as a high major coach without Kofi Cockburn.
No that is not acceptable.
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but but muh recent success in a single elimination tournament totally proves their coaching chops
Larranagga had a final 4 at George Mason. It’s proven he can coach. And most of Miami’s success is John Ruiz paying their players. Nigel Pack is making 400,000 a year there. Far more than he’d make playing in the G League.
Dusty May main guys are all underclassmen. It’s certain he can coach too and most likely is Indiana’s coach after next season.
It’s always hilarious to me that Illini fans shit on other successful coaches, but make excuses for their own.
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I would expect hawkins and melendez will be on the team too, maybe even Shannon, and the transfer portal has just opened so you have no fucking clue what this team will look like next season ya dumbfuck, not to mention your freshman never get better theory here as well
Shannon is 100% not coming back.
Hawkins if he comes back to school, won’t be at Illinois. I bet it’s San Diego State given his Dad played there and they are coming off a Final 4.
It’s gonna be a dreadful team next year. It was bad this year, but extreme luck and a bad schedule made the record far better than it should have been. Next year I don’t see that type of luck. Best thing for Illini fans would be Underwood choking a player in practice and getting fired for cause.
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Best thing for Illini fans would be Underwood choking a player in practice and getting fired for cause.
Rack him! This is pinnable, Custard!
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2023-24 will be Underwood’s last at Illinois. It’s shaping up to be one of the worst rosters ever assembled.
Lawhorn (assuming he shows up)
Harris
Goode
Rodgers
Dainja
20+ losses if that’s the squad. One of the worst Illini teams of all time
They should have lost 15+ with normal luck/schedule with Shannon/Hawkins/Mayer/Epps. Take those 4 off and 20 losses should be a sure thing
Mmmkay we rolled out a team with Jaylon Tate at point, Michael Finke at center, and Malcom Hill playing the 4 because we had no one else and they didn't manage to lose 20 games.
What we have currently would likely make the NIT next year and we have several open slots.
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Rack him! This is pinnable, Custard!
I said at the time that I would have loved it if Brad would have beat the shit out of Mark Smith.
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2023-24 will be Underwood’s last at Illinois. It’s shaping up to be one of the worst rosters ever assembled.
Lawhorn (assuming he shows up)
Harris
Goode
Rodgers
Dainja
20+ losses if that’s the squad. One of the worst Illini teams of all time
They should have lost 15+ with normal luck/schedule with Shannon/Hawkins/Mayer/Epps. Take those 4 off and 20 losses should be a sure thing
This is what, the sixth or seventh straight year you've predicted we were terrible?
Hard to argue with a track record like yours, buddy.
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Shannon is 100% not coming back.
This is how anyone who has heard anything from inside this program would know you're totally full of shit.
He may not be back, but if you think it's 100% you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
It's considerably more likely that both Shannon and Hawkins are back than that both are gone, barring both getting better-than-expected draft evals.
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2023-24 will be Underwood’s last at Illinois. It’s shaping up to be one of the worst rosters ever assembled.
Lawhorn (assuming he shows up)
Harris
Goode
Rodgers
Dainja
20+ losses if that’s the squad. One of the worst Illini teams of all time
They should have lost 15+ with normal luck/schedule with Shannon/Hawkins/Mayer/Epps. Take those 4 off and 20 losses should be a sure thing
Sweet! We’re totally winning the conference next year!
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Mmmkay we rolled out a team with Jaylon Tate at point, Michael Finke at center, and Malcom Hill playing the 4 because we had no one else and they didn't manage to lose 20 games.
What we have currently would likely make the NIT next year and we have several open slots.
Underwood lost 21 games with Ayo Donsumnu playing 30+ minutes a game.
It’s clear he can get far less out of the sum of the roster.
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This is how anyone who has heard anything from inside this program would know you're totally full of shit.
He may not be back, but if you think it's 100% you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
It's considerably more likely that both Shannon and Hawkins are back than that both are gone, barring both getting better-than-expected draft evals.
Again, I am the only insider on the Illini internet. Do not listen to anyone else. I will dole out common sense.
Shannon playing a 5th year does NOTHING for his NBA draft hopes
Now, what Illini booster is gonna pay him 500,000 for one season of playing on a mediocre team? Bc the only way he would come back is if he’s making more here than the pros. Nobody is gonna do that. If Kofi didn’t come back for the package they supposedly put together for him, Shannon is 0% coming back. 0%.
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Again, I am the only insider on the Illini internet. Do not listen to anyone else. I will dole out common sense.
Now this is funny stuff. Hilarious. And no, not laughing WITH you; laughing AT you.
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Again, I am the only insider on the Illini internet. Do not listen to anyone else. I will dole out common sense.
Shannon playing a 5th year does NOTHING for his NBA draft hopes
Now, what Illini booster is gonna pay him 500,000 for one season of playing on a mediocre team? Bc the only way he would come back is if he’s making more here than the pros. Nobody is gonna do that. If Kofi didn’t come back for the package they supposedly put together for him, Shannon is 0% coming back. 0%.
I'm sure if he does you'll man up and admit it!
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I'm sure if he does you'll man up and admit it!
When he leaves, all the same idiots that claimed Kofi was coming back will pretend that they didn’t say the same dumb shit about Shannon.
Stop listening to homers that don’t know anything. Start listening to people with common sense.
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When he leaves, all the same idiots that claimed Kofi was coming back will pretend that they didn’t say the same dumb shit about Shannon.
Stop listening to homers that don’t know anything. Start listening to people with common sense.
Some of us aren't beta dipshits and can actually just be like, "I was wrong on that."
I'll be happy to say that to you if Shannon leaves, because I'm a fucking grown up - and I'm not even saying he's 100% coming back! But I'll be sure, if Shannon announces he's staying in the draft or transferring, to come back and let you know I was wrong on that.
It's not that you're wrong that makes you a fuckstick that everybody hates, Dom, it's that when you're such a whiny emotionally stunted fuckwad that when you're wrong you can't even just be like, I was wrong. You have to pretend that really, as long as you just PRETEND with me, I was right.
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Stop listening to homers that don’t know anything. Start listening to people with common sense.
That's gold, Jerry!
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Wow, Spark laying the wood. Karen needs to step in and throw in the towel from Dom's corner.
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Again, I am the only insider on the Illini internet. Do not listen to anyone else. I will dole out common sense.
Shannon playing a 5th year does NOTHING for his NBA draft hopes
Now, what Illini booster is gonna pay him 500,000 for one season of playing on a mediocre team? Bc the only way he would come back is if he’s making more here than the pros. Nobody is gonna do that. If Kofi didn’t come back for the package they supposedly put together for him, Shannon is 0% coming back. 0%.
Illini insider, successful day trader and teen girl heartthrob.
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I can’t, for the life of me, understand why anyone would want Dom banned. Unlike the IVMP/Nichi shit fest, this banter is actually entertaining.
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Some of us aren't beta dipshits and can actually just be like, "I was wrong on that."
I'll be happy to say that to you if Shannon leaves, because I'm a fucking grown up - and I'm not even saying he's 100% coming back! But I'll be sure, if Shannon announces he's staying in the draft or transferring, to come back and let you know I was wrong on that.
It's not that you're wrong that makes you a fuckstick that everybody hates, Dom, it's that when you're such a whiny emotionally stunted fuckwad that when you're wrong you can't even just be like, I was wrong. You have to pretend that really, as long as you just PRETEND with me, I was right.
Spark, I just admitted I was wrong a couple weeks ago on Lawhorn. I originally thought he would suck based on his 5 different HSs and white trash hood rat mom. But, after seeing some more recent game footage (full games not just highlights) of him at OTE, I have changed my mind on him. I think he’s a real talent.
I changed my mind on Kofi between the time he was at Oak Hill (which I was not impressed at all in his tape), and obviously he proved immediately he was an impact player. I didn’t think Kofi would amount too much at Illinois due to his HS tape, lack of big time college pursuers, and the fact he was partying during the summer of 2019. I drove him to Red Lion once, and picked him up there another time at like 3 am when nobody else was even around. By himself no less. When a guy shows up and parties by himself, you don’t think he’s gonna have the work ethic to be good. He obviously did.
The numbers say that Brad Underwood is a bad coach without Kofi. That’s just a fact. I said 17-16 and they finish 20-13. Same difference. Irrelevant suckage.
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Wow, Spark laying the wood. Karen needs to step in and throw in the towel from Dom's corner.
Karen’s going thru a lot. Her mom was just diagnosed with lung cancer and she’s going thru some health problems of her own. I don’t think she will be back here posting much
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I'm going to have a strong cup of Hills Brothers and listen to "Both Sides Now". Then go for a walk and smile at a cloud.
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Karen’s going thru a lot. Her mom was just diagnosed with lung cancer and she’s going thru some health problems of her own. I don’t think she will be back here posting much
Well, if you let her out of your trunk, I'm thinking she would be doing better.
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I can’t, for the life of me, understand why anyone would want Dom banned. Unlike the IVMP/Nichi shit fest, this banter is actually entertaining.
Mostly agree. This place would be incredibly dull without the arguing.
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I'm going to have a strong cup of Hills Brothers and listen to "Both Sides Now". The go for a walk and smile at a cloud.
How'd it go ?
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I'm going to have a strong cup of Hills Brothers and listen to "Both Sides Now". The go for a walk and smile at a cloud.
I thought this was funny.
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I can’t, for the life of me, understand why anyone would want Dom banned. Unlike the IVMP/Nichi shit fest, this banter is actually entertaining.
Can do without the racism and calling Spark names, as well as the purported pedo stuff, but the videos and his general delusional state of mind are awesome.
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Can do without the racism and calling Spark names, as well as the purported pedo stuff, but the videos and his general delusional state of mind are awesome.
Fair.
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I wouldn't argue for him to be banned, but counterpoint is that nothing triggers this moron more than being banned, again, from another Illini forum - and very few things are funnier than watching Truth get triggered.
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I wouldn't argue for him to be banned, but counterpoint is that nothing triggers this moron more than being banned, again, from another Illini forum - and very few things are funnier than watching Truth get triggered.
Please…make your presence felt in the football forum!
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How'd it go ?
The coffee was good. It's a bit chilly and hazy out.
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Please…make your presence felt in the football forum!
Yes Spark, please make your presence felt in the football forum. Tempo needs more straw for his straw man arguments.
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Yes Spark, please make your presence felt in the football forum. Tempo needs more straw for his straw man arguments.
Yes, Spark. We need more people to tell us how perhaps the greatest female athlete of all-time is now in “The where are they now?” file” at 26 years old.
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Yes, Spark. We need more people to tell us how perhaps the greatest female athlete of all-time is now in “The where are they now?” file” at 26 years old.
Well, I am glad you are quoting the phrase at least. What was the last ad we saw her in? Is she coaching? Mentoring? Could not tell you.
It is gymnastics. 26 is old, isn't it? Are the good ones all in Dom's wheelhouse age-wise? I do not follow it except during the Olympiad. Who am I kidding? I do not watch the gymnastics then.
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PAMan hasn’t seen her on TV or been informed on what’s she’s been up to (having a child). So that means she’s on the “Where are they now?” list.
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Well, I am glad you are quoting the phrase at least.
Sure thing, Robb 2.0
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PAMan hasn’t seen her on TV or been informed on what’s she’s been up to (having a child). So that means she’s on the “Where are they now?” list.
Who are you addressing this to, Spark? You do not think he saw the conversation on the football thread?
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Sure thing, Robb 2.0
It appears quoting something verbatim has joined nuance on the list of things you are not good at. You are great at building straw men though!
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Who are you addressing this to, Spark? You do not think he saw the conversation on the football thread?
I’m addressing it to your massive ego. PAMan hasn’t seen her on TV, so that means everyone has forgotten about her.
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I’m addressing it to your massive ego. PAMan hasn’t seen her on TV, so that means everyone has forgotten about her.
I think everyone had forgotten about her until you cut and pasted her Wikipedia page and the December article about her having a kid today.
And why would you post it in this thread?
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I think everyone had forgotten about her
Of course you do, because the lens through which you view things is incredibly narcissistic.
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Of course you, because the lens through which you view things is incredibly narcissistic.
When is the last time you thought about her before last night?
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When is the last time you thought about her before last night?
Thursday, Jan 21st, 9:03 PM.
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Thursday, Jan 21st, 9:03 PM.
LOL.
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Thursday, Jan 21st, 9:03 PM.
It doesn’t matter though until at least February 2nd 🤷🏻♂️
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It doesn’t matter though until at least February 2nd 🤷🏻♂️
Not bad. I give it a B. Kinda saw that one coming though.
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Not bad. I give it a B. Kinda saw that one coming though.
The significance is Groundhog Day. And you can see why that day would be of significance.
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The significance is Groundhog Day. And you can see why that day would be of significance.
Ok, A-.
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Karen’s going thru a lot. Her mom was just diagnosed with lung cancer and she’s going thru some health problems of her own. I don’t think she will be back here posting much
How devastated was Karen when she found out you're broke?
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Spark, I just admitted I was wrong a couple weeks ago on Lawhorn. I originally thought he would suck based on his 5 different HSs and white trash hood rat mom. But, after seeing some more recent game footage (full games not just highlights) of him at OTE, I have changed my mind on him. I think he’s a real talent.
I changed my mind on Kofi between the time he was at Oak Hill (which I was not impressed at all in his tape), and obviously he proved immediately he was an impact player. I didn’t think Kofi would amount too much at Illinois due to his HS tape, lack of big time college pursuers, and the fact he was partying during the summer of 2019. I drove him to Red Lion once, and picked him up there another time at like 3 am when nobody else was even around. By himself no less. When a guy shows up and parties by himself, you don’t think he’s gonna have the work ethic to be good. He obviously did.
The numbers say that Brad Underwood is a bad coach without Kofi. That’s just a fact. I said 17-16 and they finish 20-13. Same difference. Irrelevant suckage.
Gotta give Squeaky some credit for recently acknowledging he's a broke ass loser.
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17-16 and a tourney miss is the same as 20-13 and a tourney lock.
Just pretend with me, guys, and I'll be right!
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17-16 and a tourney miss is the same as 20-13 and a tourney lock.
In what alternate universe is this the same? Dom Dum Galaxy?
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1641538356407418880
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1641538356407418880
Jasn, what the hell does this even mean?
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https://twitter.com/nkalamb/status/1641417989994979330?t=5gMcu8i-GAnkAUgsJrxFuQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/nkalamb/status/1641417989994979330?t=5gMcu8i-GAnkAUgsJrxFuQ&s=19
Is that a Tempo mult?
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https://twitter.com/DravynGibbs/status/1611085792683909121?t=vMPVDUMLeeQijn5oJaGotQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/Talent_2K/status/1641555957472804865?t=D1yrrM9NqZfxTabdhgWZLQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/Talent_2K/status/1641555957472804865?t=D1yrrM9NqZfxTabdhgWZLQ&s=19
Ridiculous.
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Ridiculous.
I hope the DGL response is real life for him, if so we got a steal of a guard. Hawk's response is pretty good as well....that said, BU needs to find other ways to motivate, otherwise the tantrum/Bad Cop routine will wear thin on most teenagers quickly.
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DGL is gonna be a fucking stud. Very underrated recruit.
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17-16 and a tourney miss is the same as 20-13 and a tourney lock.
Just pretend with me, guys, and I'll be right!
When you're as bad as Illinois was this year, then yes it's the same.
2-12 vs Q1s
Blown out in BTT
Blown out in the 1st round of NCAA
You're probably a big fan of Lovie's miracle bowl season. Guess what? They sucked too and he was fired a year later.
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DGL is gonna be a fucking stud. Very underrated recruit.
Never heard this said about an Illini
Recruit. Hope it’s true.
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I could get him to leave. LMK.
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When you're as bad as Illinois was this year, then yes it's the same.
2-12 vs Q1s
Blown out in BTT
Blown out in the 1st round of NCAA
You're probably a big fan of Lovie's miracle bowl season. Guess what? They sucked too and he was fired a year later.
Blown out? The fuck? Both games we were fouling with a minute to go still trying to win. And the Q1 record is a little misleading. There are quality wins that didn’t make that cut.
This year’s team was a disappointment but no matter how you try to spin it, you were wrong.
Shifting the goalposts/changing the rules/making excuses is for beta cuck losers.
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https://twitter.com/eepadilla_jr/status/1641820969915277313?t=ALWDHzxEmpQcuRiKpMQqZQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/Lance_Warner_/status/1641852625585831964?t=iSUFpLqGW2MXVvJmHG9HTQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/Lance_Warner_/status/1641852625585831964?t=iSUFpLqGW2MXVvJmHG9HTQ&s=19
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People ask what happened to me? To my peers? here is your answer… I was robbed and mistreated in so many levels, I just hope the Illini institution see things past victories, College is an experience that marks young adults, why suffer😔
Speaks to BU conduct, nothing wrong with it, although should have more than one way to motivate. Congrats to Hawk for standing up and speaking the truth.
I hope Hawk comes back, the leadership/maturity is what we will need.
As far as Padilla is concerned, walkon, should have spent more time learning how to succeed than what seems like now learning how to blame others.
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Blown out? The fuck? Both games we were fouling with a minute to go still trying to win. And the Q1 record is a little misleading. There are quality wins that didn’t make that cut.
This year’s team was a disappointment but no matter how you try to spin it, you were wrong.
Shifting the goalposts/changing the rules/making excuses is for beta cuck losers.
Dumbfucinic doesn't know what he's talking about, never has and never will.
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When you're as bad as Illinois was this year, then yes it's the same.
2-12 vs Q1s
Blown out in BTT
Blown out in the 1st round of NCAA
You're probably a big fan of Lovie's miracle bowl season. Guess what? They sucked too and he was fired a year later.
Just pretend with me and I’m right guys, I swear! Just pretend!
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Blown out? The fuck? Both games we were fouling with a minute to go still trying to win. And the Q1 record is a little misleading. There are quality wins that didn’t make that cut.
This year’s team was a disappointment but no matter how you try to spin it, you were wrong.
Shifting the goalposts/changing the rules/making excuses is for beta cuck losers.
What quality wins am I missing?
They won 4 games total vs teams that made the NCAA tourney. (MSU, Texas, NW, UCLA). All 4 of them were miracles by the way. Big 2nd half comebacks.
Know how many they lost? 12.
They went 4-12 vs teams that made NCAA tourney. Stop saying I’m missing some quality
This was a 16-17 level season that was fluked into winning 20 games vs mostly cupcakes.
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I hope the DGL response is real life for him, if so we got a steal of a guard. Hawk's response is pretty good as well....that said, BU needs to find other ways to motivate, otherwise the tantrum/Bad Cop routine will wear thin on most teenagers quickly.
Underwood needs to focus on making adjustments during games and save the tantrums for practice.
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What quality wins am I missing?
They won 4 games total vs teams that made the NCAA tourney. (MSU, Texas, NW, UCLA). All 4 of them were miracles by the way. Big 2nd half comebacks.
Know how many they lost? 12.
They went 4-12 vs teams that made NCAA tourney. Stop saying I’m missing some quality
This was a 16-17 level season that was fluked into winning 20 games vs mostly cupcakes.
Man up and take the L.
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Underwood needs to focus on making adjustments during games and save the tantrums for practice.
Agree. Who the fck wants to be grabbed and screamed at by a fat crazyman on national TV.
He can do better.
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Man up and take the L.
He is a pathetic little pussy. He never does.
But his entire life is a big L so there is that.
He lives in a flophouse and drives a pukemobile taking orders from drunks at 3am in the morning.
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Lkdog back with a vengeance. Like it.
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He did tone that shit down as the season went on.
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He did tone that shit down as the season went on.
I think he probably had some pressure from AD and boosters and University to calm the fck down.
He can do better and it is not necessary.
You can be a hardass which is likely needed at times, and not act unhinged crazy.
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I think he probably had some pressure from AD and boosters and University to calm the fck down.
He can do better and it is not necessary.
You can be a hardass which is likely needed at times, and not act unhinged crazy.
When he was hired that was said to be a feature, and not a bug.
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When he was hired that was said to be a feature, and not a bug.
Yes. That and he has a huge dick or something like that.
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Yes. That and he has a huge dick or something like that.
Yep. Once he showed it to the mother on recruiting visits, the recruitment was over. In the bag.
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When he was hired that was said to be a feature, and not a bug.
Oh the Huggybear/Martin style was in vogue about 20 years ago when players were still indentured slaves.
It is not going to work any longer in the new context of NIL, and the portal.
It is kind of like the NBA where there is a weird fluid power balance between coaches and the star players.
The coaches with high interpersonal skills figure out how to navigate it, and get buy in at least for the playoffs.
UW is not that kind of guy. It will be an anomaly if he ever gets a team engaged enough to go deep into the tourney.
His best coaching job was the Covid year, but they had Feliz who was a total stud and did not allow any pussies and whining from the kids.
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Yep. Once he showed it to the mother on recruiting visits, the recruitment was over. In the bag.
I thought that was Dee Brown trying to fck the Moms.
Another great chapter in Illini BB lore.
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He is a pathetic little pussy. He never does.
But his entire life is a big L so there is that.
He lives in a flophouse and drives a pukemobile taking orders from drunks at 3am in the morning.
Lkdog, good to see ya back. And making your good points is always a +.