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How will Underwood leave?

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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2023, 06:17:18 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on March 16, 2023, 06:13:57 PM
Leave? Brad says we were a team no one wants to play in March.

Perhaps because he expected us to be in the NIT?
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2023, 06:27:52 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on March 16, 2023, 04:42:12 PM
Another question. How many guys hit the portal?

Hopefully none of Epps, Harris or Rodgers.

Melendez maybe.

Hawkins?
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2023, 06:28:59 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on March 16, 2023, 06:01:38 PM
PAMan meltdown incoming. Let’s go!

Fucking why Illinois doesn't do shit in sports people care about. Fucking Cub-like fans. Fucking pathetic.
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2023, 06:31:53 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 16, 2023, 06:10:52 PM
That’s like every other day now. Nothing new.

Oh. He won 20 games 4 years in a row! Oh, he's won the regular season title! Oh. he won the B1G tourney! Who the fuck cares when you have 2 AA and can't get to the S16? Idiots.
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2023, 06:43:13 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on March 16, 2023, 06:13:57 PM
Leave? Brad says we were a team no one wants to play in March.


He meant to say watch, not play.

And he better say this year is on him.
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2023, 06:46:48 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 16, 2023, 06:43:13 PM
And he better say this year is on him.

You are kidding, right?
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2023, 06:52:21 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 16, 2023, 06:46:48 PM
You are kidding, right?
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2023, 07:35:01 PM »
Underwood has the same benefit that Fran McCaffrey has.  Since they followed really bad coaches, they have a never ending leash of allowed mediocrity.

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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2023, 08:09:21 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on March 16, 2023, 07:35:01 PM
Underwood has the same benefit that Fran McCaffrey has.  Since they followed really bad coaches, they have a never ending leash of allowed mediocrity.

He's the Glen Mason of B1G basketball coaches.
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2023, 08:32:25 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on March 16, 2023, 04:42:12 PM
Another question. How many guys hit the portal?

Am seeing rumors of Epps being gone along with Dainja, which would mean the top 6 scorers are gone assuming Hawkins goes pro.  Essentially the same kind of big scoring loss as last year and there's no Ayo or Kofi incoming to save Brad.
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2023, 09:00:22 PM »
Quote from: FaninCa on March 16, 2023, 08:32:25 PM
Am seeing rumors of Epps being gone along with Dainja, which would mean the top 6 scorers are gone assuming Hawkins goes pro.  Essentially the same kind of big scoring loss as last year and there's no Ayo or Kofi incoming to save Brad.

If those two leave just fire Underwood. I realize this is a different era, but my god, how many transfers can you have in two years? We could be talking 5 this year.
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2023, 09:14:34 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 16, 2023, 09:00:22 PM
If those two leave just fire Underwood. I realize this is a different era, but my god, how many transfers can you have in two years? We could be talking 5 this year.

A guy with Brad's temperament might work 10 years ago.  This generation of kids are too sensitive for Brad and the more loose transfer rules don't help.
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2023, 09:47:52 PM »
He and McCaffrey should be fired. Iowa gave up at least 50 points in the second half and made many dumb mistakes.
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2023, 09:55:38 PM »
We're in the tournament for the 3rd straight year. De facto 4th straight year. That's a level of regular success we haven't had since Bill Self's last recruits left campus. So let's be real, right now he's not on the hot seat and shouldn't be.

The tournament record is abysmal and the personnel management is suspect. This year's B1G play without Ayo or Kofi was a Groce-plus. I think it's going to take two years to get him on a hot seat with Bro Guenther as the AD, and I don't think Brad takes another job in the meantime with K-State in a good poition, Texas having a better candidate, etc. At this point I think the most likely scenario is that he retires from Illinois to a calmer life. He's roughly the same age as Jay Wright, and he's coming across as an advertisement to happy post-coaching life. Gets closer to 65 I could see him saying no more of this as most guys in their 60s do.
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Re: How will Underwood leave?
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2023, 10:10:10 PM »
As to transfer portal, I hope we have Epps, Harris, Melendez, Goode, Rodgers, and Dainja are back as a core, and if Shannon or Hawkins want to come back you're not stopping them, I guess. I could see Epps or Melendez leaving. Dainja would surprise me. Lieb would not either way. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next few days.
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