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Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.

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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #225 on: June 01, 2023, 02:53:34 PM »
Woof how bad is Moretti?
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #226 on: June 01, 2023, 03:00:53 PM »
Quote from: Custard on June 01, 2023, 02:53:34 PM
Woof how bad is Moretti?

Have no clue. Small. Skill kid.
Might contribute in a different system like Iowa where they do not guard much and play zone.
They took Harding who is same size and high skills kid.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #227 on: June 01, 2023, 03:09:59 PM »
Quote from: Jrock74 on June 01, 2023, 02:28:29 PM
Not a 3 baller or free throw shooter...

Sounds like he could fit right in....
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #228 on: June 01, 2023, 03:17:28 PM »
Need better FT shooters or we are at risk of PAMan losing another 2nd half bet in a blowout NCAA loss.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #229 on: June 01, 2023, 03:20:44 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 01, 2023, 03:17:28 PM
Need better FT shooters or we are at risk of PAMan losing another 2nd half bet in a blowout NCAA loss.

Without good free shooters the Illini may not compete for that B1G Regular Season championship banner we all want!
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #230 on: June 01, 2023, 03:21:08 PM »
it'd fucking suck if we competed for a conference title this year
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #231 on: June 01, 2023, 03:27:00 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 01, 2023, 03:21:08 PM
it'd fucking suck if we competed for a conference title this year

It'd fucking suck if they didn't win 2 games, at a minimum, in The Only Tourney That Matters.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #232 on: June 01, 2023, 03:29:18 PM »
It's easier to win in the tourney when you make it, I've found.

Keep putting good, tournament quality teams on the court and the tourney success will come.

Start over and there's definitely a chance it will come, but it's far more likely you end up starting over a few more times before you find somebody who can get us back there consistently.  As we, as Illini fans, should know from experience.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #233 on: June 01, 2023, 03:30:58 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 01, 2023, 03:29:18 PM
It's easier to win in the tourney when you make it, I've found.

Yeah, but Illinois has not done a good job of winning when they have made it recently and you do not have to win a Regular Season B1G Conference title to get into The Only Tourney That Matters.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #234 on: June 01, 2023, 03:32:59 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 01, 2023, 03:29:18 PM
It's easier to win in the tourney when you make it, I've found.

Keep putting good, tournament quality teams on the court and the tourney success will come.

Start over and there's definitely a chance it will come, but it's far more likely you end up starting over a few more times before you find somebody who can get us back there consistently.  As we, as Illini fans, should know from experience.

All of which has zilch to do with worthless Regular Season B1G Championships, as we, as Illini fans, know from experience.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #235 on: June 01, 2023, 03:54:58 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 01, 2023, 03:27:00 PM
It'd fucking suck if they didn't win 2 games, at a minimum, in The Only Tourney That Matters.

Seems to be the annual mantra, rightfully so, and yes it sucks each year when we don't do it.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #236 on: June 01, 2023, 04:03:43 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 01, 2023, 03:32:59 PM
All of which has zilch to do with worthless Regular Season B1G Championships, as we, as Illini fans, know from experience.

It's fine that you think winning your league is worthless, but the huge, huge majority of people would find that pretty ridiculous.

I definitely don't.  Winning a ton of games, hanging banners... those things are fun to me, personally, even if we don't make it as deep as we want in the NCAA.

The current Illinois fanbase would never in a million years put up with Lou Henson's results, and his name is on our court.  It's crazy.  He won 2 tournament games three times in 21 seasons at Illinois.

Do you honestly expect me to believe that if we make the S16 this year you'll be like "okay I was wrong about Underwood" instead of moving the goalposts?  I don't believe that for one single second.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #237 on: June 01, 2023, 04:13:22 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 01, 2023, 04:03:43 PM
It's fine that you think winning your league is worthless, but the huge, huge majority of people would find that pretty ridiculous.

I definitely don't.  Winning a ton of games, hanging banners... those things are fun to me, personally, even if we don't make it as deep as we want in the NCAA.

The current Illinois fanbase would never in a million years put up with Lou Henson's results, and his name is on our court.  It's crazy.  He won 2 tournament games three times in 21 seasons at Illinois.

Do you honestly expect me to believe that if we make the S16 this year you'll be like "okay I was wrong about Underwood" instead of moving the goalposts?  I don't believe that for one single second.

I do not expect you to do anything except continue being happy with pursuing Regular Season B1G Conference banners.

I certainly do not care what low expectations the rest of the fanbase may have. Though I am skeptical you have the pulse of the fanbase.

Yes, if regularly get to the S16, the goal is then E8s, then F4s, then a championship.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #238 on: June 01, 2023, 04:14:07 PM »
Yes, like most reasonable people I am going to be happy when my favorite team wins their league.

At least you acknowledge that your target is moving.  It's still stupid, but the honesty is refreshing.
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Re: Hawkins/TSJ/PG thread 1 week out.
« Reply #239 on: June 01, 2023, 04:19:41 PM »
Would you be happier with a B1G title, a 3 seed, and a second round loss, or sneaking in on the back end of the bubble as an 11 seed and making the S16 by beating a 6 and a 14?
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