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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #480 on: May 23, 2023, 05:59:53 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 23, 2023, 03:59:40 PM


The "he's from Illinois" stuff is for fans, players typically are less beholden to 'close to home' than people like you assume they are.



Yeah, I’m not sure that’s true. Especially for kids that aren’t considered future NBAers.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #481 on: May 23, 2023, 06:05:11 PM »
"In the backcourt is back starting point guard Rollie Worster (8.7 ppg and 5.0 apg)"

"The problem is that Utah may feel deep down inside that they won’t land him. The Utes landed Deivon Smith, who averaged 8.0 ppg and 3.7 apg at Georgia Tech. It’s not that he’s an upgrade over the Toledo transfer but rather an interesting time to add another backcourt player."

https://bustingbrackets.com/2023/05/20/ncaa-basketball-analyzing-4-contenders-toledo-transfer-rayj-dennis/2/
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #482 on: May 23, 2023, 06:06:30 PM »
Even if Rayj didn’t grow up bleeding orange and blue, I’m sure there’s people inside his bubble that would be encouraging him to play for the state school.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #483 on: May 23, 2023, 06:21:26 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 23, 2023, 05:59:53 PM
Yeah, I’m not sure that’s true. Especially for kids that aren’t considered future NBAers.

Of course you're not.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #484 on: May 23, 2023, 06:22:10 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 23, 2023, 06:06:30 PM
Even if Rayj didn’t grow up bleeding orange and blue, I’m sure there’s people inside his bubble that would be encouraging him to play for the state school.

How the fuck would any of us know?

Maybe his parents are salty with Underwood for not recruiting him in HS?

Why just assume something you have literally no idea about?
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #485 on: May 23, 2023, 06:24:34 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 23, 2023, 06:21:26 PM
Of course you're not.

So you think playing for Illinois would have no influence on a not that highly rated Illinois kid? If so, this is almost as bad as your ASU is equal to Illinois take.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #486 on: May 23, 2023, 06:26:22 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 23, 2023, 06:24:34 PM
So you think playing for Illinois would have no influence on a not that highly rated Illinois kid? If so, this is almost as bad as your ASU is equal to Illinois take.

I don't claim to know anything about how Ray J or his family or circle thinks about Illinois basketball, our coaching staff, or frankly anything else - no.

It's hilarious you still think you just know.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #487 on: May 23, 2023, 06:27:18 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 23, 2023, 06:22:10 PM
How the fuck would any of us know?

Maybe his parents are salty with Underwood for not recruiting him in HS?

Why just assume something you have literally no idea about?

It’s easy to be open-minded when your default setting is to constantly give the benefit of the doubt, even in situations where reason and logically applied.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #488 on: May 23, 2023, 06:28:37 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 23, 2023, 06:27:18 PM
It’s easy to be open-minded when your default setting is to constantly give the benefit of the doubt, even in situations where reason and logically applied.

You're literally making a thing up and ascribing it to a specific person with no knowledge of them personally at all.  Projecting your own views onto someone you've never met.

I'll err on the side of not doing that, yeah.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #489 on: May 23, 2023, 06:28:44 PM »
It’s not exactly apples to apples, but this reminds me of the Jalen Carter debate. “OMG the Bears were geniuses for getting a pick for a guy they didn’t want!”
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« Reply #490 on: May 23, 2023, 06:29:44 PM »
Yeah, I mean it already reminds me of every other argument with you, where you make up an argument you wish I'd made and argue against it.
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« Reply #491 on: May 23, 2023, 06:31:08 PM »
I love that you called what you're doing here "reason and logic".

That couldn't more perfectly encapsulate you to me.  Beautiful.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #492 on: May 23, 2023, 06:36:09 PM »
“Maybe his parents are salty” sounds like something out of the random excuse generator.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #493 on: May 23, 2023, 06:37:17 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 23, 2023, 06:31:08 PM
I love that you called what you're doing here "reason and logic".

That couldn't more perfectly encapsulate you to me.  Beautiful.

You’re telling me he has zero pull to the U of I, be it through fandom, family or friends? Possible, but doubtful.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #494 on: May 23, 2023, 06:38:50 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 23, 2023, 06:36:09 PM
“Maybe his parents are salty” sounds like something out of the random excuse generator.

You're saying "Maybe there are people in his circle that really want him to go to Illinois."

Mine was an example, showing that we simply do not know.  We can pretend we do, we can assume that RayJ and his family think like us - that's what you're doing - but the truth is, we have no clue.  We don't even know if this happened yet, we're taking the word of the very board this thread is meant to mock for not knowing what they're talking about.  Maybe he's using Utah as a bargaining chip and we'll pay up - who fuckin' knows man?

Are you saying it's unthinkable that the parents of an Illinois kid who was deemed not good enough to get a scholarship to Illinois might struggle to warm back up to the coach that overlooked him?  Why is that so far-fetched?
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