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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #405 on: May 23, 2023, 04:03:39 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 23, 2023, 04:02:41 PM
Losing a mid-major transfer kid from Oswego to Utah, allegedly, is not a bad look? C'mon.

No more than if he was a kid we'd gone all in on from Tulsa who played at Michigan State, no.

Losing a kid you wanted and put a lot of resources in sucks no matter where he's from.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #406 on: May 23, 2023, 04:04:38 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 23, 2023, 04:02:41 PM
Losing a mid-major transfer kid from Oswego to Utah, allegedly, is not a bad look? C'mon.

Even with your edit losing a kid to Utah is not good. But Underachiever is so great!

Your edit was the typical meathead stupidity.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #407 on: May 23, 2023, 04:05:15 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on May 23, 2023, 03:37:27 PM
They’ll finish below 8th.  8th would be a big accomplishment for this group.

This will be the least talented team Underwood has ever coached here.  Don’t forget the guy lost 21 games with Ayo Donsunmu and Trent Frazier as his back court.

Still can't believe you really think Mazzulla is going to be their next coach
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #408 on: May 23, 2023, 04:05:45 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 23, 2023, 04:03:39 PM
No more than if he was a kid we'd gone all in on from Tulsa who played at Michigan State, no.

Losing a kid you wanted and put a lot of resources in sucks no matter where he's from.

Seriously? He is, allegedly, picking Utah over Illinois.

You have sat here and lauded Underachiever for winning B1G Titles and he cannot out-recruit Utah? Is Rick Majerus still coaching there?
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #409 on: May 23, 2023, 04:06:46 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 23, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
Let’s be honest here. Losing a midmajor kid from Oswego would be a bad look.

No question, and it sounds like they threw the kitchen sink at him, but it is a new world now. The players in demand are essentially pro free agents out shopping with agents.

I don't think Plan B Yuri who some like better is a given either.
My friends at SLU claim he has been shopping to highest bidder also.

We will end up with somebody and a competitive team in the end, but it is not pretty and this is the new norm.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #410 on: May 23, 2023, 04:06:53 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 23, 2023, 04:05:45 PM
Seriously? He is, allegedly, picking Utah over Illinois.

You have sat here and lauded Underachiever for winning B1G Titles and he cannot out-recruit Utah? Is Rick Majerus still coaching there?

He's out-recruited Utah easily, though.  You're talking about one kid.

yeah, it sucks to lose a kid you want.  Has happened to every single coach ever, too.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #411 on: May 23, 2023, 04:08:06 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 23, 2023, 04:04:38 PM
Your edit was the typical meathead stupidity.

You have completely lost it, dude. The All Great Underachiever (top 10 paid HC) appears to have gotten smoked, despite all the NIL $$$, by Utah. Get serious, Spark.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #412 on: May 23, 2023, 04:10:18 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 23, 2023, 04:08:06 PM
You have completely lost it, dude. The All Great Underachiever (top 10 paid HC) appears to have gotten smoked, despite all the NIL $$$, by Utah. Get serious, Spark.
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I mean, nobody's surprised you're being a moron about this.  It's What You Do.

It sucks to lose a kid we want.  It also happens.  Has happened before, will happen again.  Feel free to be a dumbass about it, but I'm not going to.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #413 on: May 23, 2023, 04:11:12 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 23, 2023, 04:06:53 PM
He's out-recruited Utah easily, though.  You're talking about one kid.

yeah, it sucks to lose a kid you want.  Has happened to every single coach ever, too.

When has Underachiever gone head-to-head with Utah?

The question is, why did he choose Utah over Illinois? The answer would be interesting.

Maybe he does not want to play for a guy dressed by Warehouse Club who yells at kids who cannot win the 2d game in The Tourney but can win B1G Titles? (RIP ChicagoFan.)

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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #414 on: May 23, 2023, 04:12:20 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on May 23, 2023, 04:10:18 PM
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I mean, nobody's surprised you're being a moron about this.  It's What You Do.

It sucks to lose a kid we want.  It also happens.  Has happened before, will happen again.  Feel free to be a dumbass about it, but I'm not going to.

You look ridiculous here.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #415 on: May 23, 2023, 04:13:02 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 23, 2023, 04:11:12 PM
When has Underachiever gone head-to-head with Utah?

The question is, why did he choose Utah over Illinois? The answer would be interesting.

Maybe he does not want to play for a guy dressed by Warehouse Club who yells at kids who cannot win the 2d game in The Tourney but can win B1G Titles? (RIP ChicagoFan.)

Thought we were talking about out-recruiting them?  He's recruited better than the Utah coach and it isn't really close.

Sounds like the most commonly thought answer is money, but who knows?  I don't know and neither do you, it's pretty stupid to just guess and pretend your guess is true.  We have no idea why, or to be honest even 'if' at this point.  This is coming from the exact same people that this board has been mocking as fake insiders for years, no?
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #416 on: May 23, 2023, 04:13:29 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on May 23, 2023, 04:06:46 PM
No question, and it sounds like they threw the kitchen sink at him, but it is a new world now. The players in demand are essentially pro free agents out shopping with agents.

I don't think Plan B Yuri who some like better is a given either.
My friends at SLU claim he has been shopping to highest bidder also.

We will end up with somebody and a competitive team in the end, but it is not pretty and this is the new norm.

Yep.

Apparently need a head coach that people want to get really well paid to play for.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #417 on: May 23, 2023, 04:14:19 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 23, 2023, 04:12:20 PM
You look ridiculous here.

Nah, I look like an adult.

You're welcome to lose your shit every time we lose a kid to another school, it's definitely going to happen again.  Because it happens to every single coach in the country.
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« Reply #418 on: May 23, 2023, 04:14:44 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 23, 2023, 04:13:29 PM
Yep.

Apparently need a head coach that people want to get really well paid to play for.

Which, again, is every coach in the country.
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Re: do illinois loyalty "insiders" actually have info
« Reply #419 on: May 23, 2023, 04:15:00 PM »
Quote from: KarensBackLastTime on May 23, 2023, 04:05:15 PM
Still can't believe you really think Mazzulla is going to be their next coach

Huh? I never said that. I have no clue who will be IL next coach.

I do think Mazulla has had an insane coaching trajectory.

Going from D2 to Celtics head coach in 5 years is remarkable.
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