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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2955 on: December 22, 2022, 01:53:19 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 22, 2022, 01:50:30 PM
why take away the carrot to dangle?

Exactly. Why codify Roe v Wade when it brings in so much in campaign contributions.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2956 on: December 22, 2022, 02:53:35 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 22, 2022, 01:47:44 PM
by taxing the middle and upper middle class like they always do oh and borrowing with debts they have no intention of ever repaying

it's just money - pieces of paper with pictures on them so we don't have to kill each other to have something to eat
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2957 on: December 22, 2022, 04:50:51 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 01:48:58 PM
He could literally cancel student debt with the stroke of a pen. He chooses not to.

Uh, no he cannot.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2958 on: December 22, 2022, 04:52:08 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 01:42:56 PM
How do they pay for endless war and tax cuts for billionaires?

You can fight the religious fanatics over there directly, or through proxies, or you can fight them here. Which do you want?

Oh, and how is it going for women who want to go to school and the gym and have a job in Afghanistan since we pulled up left? I guess we just need to respect the cultures of others.....
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2959 on: December 22, 2022, 05:00:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 04:50:51 PM
Uh, no he cannot.

Sure he could. Would it get challenged in court? Yes. Would that stop Trump from doing something? No.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2960 on: December 22, 2022, 05:03:28 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 04:52:08 PM
You can fight the religious fanatics over there directly, or through proxies, or you can fight them here. Which do you want?

Oh, and how is it going for women who want to go to school and the gym and have a job in Afghanistan since we pulled up left? I guess we just need to respect the cultures of others.....

We can respect them, or kill them and make their countries war zones. I’m not saying there’s a one size fits all approach. In that case we could also not be hypocritical and call Saudi Arabia our ally. Iran and Afghanistan were unnecessary wars. Iran was straight up illegal.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2961 on: December 22, 2022, 05:59:12 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 05:03:28 PM
We can respect them, or kill them and make their countries war zones. I’m not saying there’s a one size fits all approach. In that case we could also not be hypocritical and call Saudi Arabia our ally. Iran and Afghanistan were unnecessary wars. Iran was straight up illegal.

We went to war with Iran?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2962 on: December 22, 2022, 06:02:57 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 04:50:51 PM
Uh, no he cannot.
He's probably been told he can't.
It's probably been a good vote getter tho.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2963 on: December 22, 2022, 06:30:32 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on December 22, 2022, 05:59:12 PM
We went to war with Iran?

My bad, replace the N with a Q.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2964 on: December 22, 2022, 07:10:57 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 05:00:52 PM
Sure he could. Would it get challenged in court? Yes. Would that stop Trump from doing something? No.

I am thinking Parkins has not discussed Biden's efforts to do this and the ensuing court challenges that have stymied his efforts or else you would know what was actually going on.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2965 on: December 22, 2022, 07:21:26 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 07:10:57 PM
I am thinking Parkins has not discussed Biden's efforts to do this and the ensuing court challenges that have stymied his efforts or else you would know what was actually going on.

Chuck Schumer and Elizabeth Warren seem to think he can do it.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2966 on: December 22, 2022, 07:23:52 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 07:21:26 PM
Chuck Schumer and Elizabeth Warren seem to think he can do it.

Again, you may want to brush up on this subject instead JFC. You know he issued such an order and there is litigation, right?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2967 on: December 22, 2022, 07:34:17 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 22, 2022, 07:23:52 PM
Again, you may want to brush up on this subject instead JFC. You know he issued such an order and there is litigation, right?

Yes, I basically said that the first post.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2968 on: December 22, 2022, 07:41:49 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2022, 07:34:17 PM
Yes, I basically said that the first post.

And you said he hasn't done it. You got the night rider out tonight?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #2969 on: December 22, 2022, 09:26:25 PM »
The executive has the power to compromise disputed debts. It should follow that the executive can forgive debts on a class basis, but Congres created a conflict between the two fairly basic separation of powers principles by granting a partial power the executive already in theory had.

The litigation is mostly junk by parties who don't have standing.
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