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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #120 on: June 15, 2020, 08:07:03 PM »

Think? I know. I’m not defending it, it just is what it is. It’s pretty generally accepted that Trump getting elected was a rebellion by angry middle Americans after 8 years of Obama, so why it a stretch that people might vote for Trump to spite the libtards? I see it every day.

So you're saying that if the candidate was Mitt Romney - they'd vote for Biden?

Even if you think their *primary* reason is to spite the libtards, that doesn't mean that in the absence of that reason they wouldn't vote exactly the same.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #121 on: June 15, 2020, 08:51:57 PM »
Yes I absolutely believe 100% that there are people who are pulled into Trump’s fuck the left gravitas. You all talk out both sides of your mouth. “He’s a horrible human being that appeals greatly to the worst of some of his political base” followed by “So if Mitt Romney were the candidate they’d vote for Biden?”

Pick a lane already.

Also I’m deeply unapologetic that this board hasn’t been somber enough during COVID. There are
a million other places to panic, be upset, and grieve.

I do feel bad for those who have hurt and lost because I’m a sentimental guy but for me at least laughter has always been the best medicine. You wanna come in here and shoot the place up, enjoy.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #122 on: June 15, 2020, 08:57:06 PM »
You can spin it however you want but I think Trump embarrassed himself plenty on his own. Everyone can see it. I’m not normalizing anything.  I’m challenging the people who want change to be the adults in the room and convince people why they should vote Democrat rather than screaming about Trump until they’re red in the face.

Even when people know they are dead wrong you can’t change their minds that way. It’s those people that we need to convince to condemn Trump and vote against him. A good alternative candidate would help. Being positive rather than negative would help.

Think about it this way:

If someone walks into a crowded restaurant and starts screaming at everyone that meat is murder and they’re awful horrible murderers if they order a cheeseburger or a steak or chicken salad, a fair chunk of that group is gonna order meat because fuck you, that’s why.

You stand outside and hand out well-reasoned flyers to the guests and have passionate, yet calm discussions with that same exact group of people and you’ll probably get an entirely different response.

I always heard there was a person who flunked Psych 101 at UIUC, now I've found him.

"I was gonna order the vegan salad but fuck that guy, get me a steak"

Vegan salad guy isn’t who we are talking about here. Maybe it’s Karen from Facebook flirting with the vegetarian menu when he walks in.

And you clearly didn’t grow up around Catholic and/or Apostolic girls.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #123 on: June 15, 2020, 10:58:42 PM »
Man, is Spark bringing the heat with a vengeance.

I will be upfront and honest that a large part of my anger here comes from my parents getting sick from, and my aunt dying from COVID-19 while these same dipshits were sitting on their hands or shrieking about their fucking stocks or being able to get a god damn haircut.  And now, if someone criticizes the federal government response to that crisis - or any other of the dozens of things Trump has done that deserved valid criticism since then - it's "you dang liberals just need to leave poor ol' Trump alone you're making people vote for him!  Outrage echo chamber!" If you're not outraged you're either 1. not paying attention, 2. a horrible person, or 3. an easily manipulated idiot.

No motherfucker, I am not making anyone vote for Trump.  The people who would even consider casting a ballot for this immoral, insecure, despicable man are the ones who are "making" them vote for him.  How about we expect adults to take a little responsibility for their actions instead of being like, "the libs are just so mean people feel they HAVE to vote for Trump!"  Makes me fucking sick.

Oh I get it now, Trump killed your aunt
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #124 on: June 15, 2020, 11:41:32 PM »
I was wondering when that was gonna come up.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #125 on: June 16, 2020, 12:51:25 AM »
I’m too lazy to go back and see who posted this article but holy fuck is it good.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-itself
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #126 on: June 16, 2020, 04:22:57 AM »
Man, is Spark bringing the heat with a vengeance.

I will be upfront and honest that a large part of my anger here comes from my parents getting sick from, and my aunt dying from COVID-19 while these same dipshits were sitting on their hands or shrieking about their fucking stocks or being able to get a god damn haircut.  And now, if someone criticizes the federal government response to that crisis - or any other of the dozens of things Trump has done that deserved valid criticism since then - it's "you dang liberals just need to leave poor ol' Trump alone you're making people vote for him!  Outrage echo chamber!" If you're not outraged you're either 1. not paying attention, 2. a horrible person, or 3. an easily manipulated idiot.

No motherfucker, I am not making anyone vote for Trump.  The people who would even consider casting a ballot for this immoral, insecure, despicable man are the ones who are "making" them vote for him.  How about we expect adults to take a little responsibility for their actions instead of being like, "the libs are just so mean people feel they HAVE to vote for Trump!"  Makes me fucking sick.

Oh I get it now, Trump killed your aunt

And, proving his point....
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #127 on: June 16, 2020, 04:24:18 AM »
I’m too lazy to go back and see who posted this article but holy fuck is it good.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-itself

I expect to see.my Applaud total higher once I log into a non-mobile device.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #128 on: June 16, 2020, 06:50:32 AM »
I wonder where hoping Trump voters die fits in the scheme of things.

Non-existent outside of the insane.
Well, it did come out of your head.
Insane might be a tad harsh tho.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #129 on: June 16, 2020, 09:33:23 AM »
I’m too lazy to go back and see who posted this article but holy fuck is it good.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-itself

I agree, Tiabbi does good work and this is spot fucking on as always
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #130 on: June 16, 2020, 10:33:13 AM »
I’m too lazy to go back and see who posted this article but holy fuck is it good.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-itself

I expect to see.my Applaud total higher once I log into a non-mobile device.

You’re welcome
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #131 on: June 16, 2020, 12:49:00 PM »
Man, is Spark bringing the heat with a vengeance.

I will be upfront and honest that a large part of my anger here comes from my parents getting sick from, and my aunt dying from COVID-19 while these same dipshits were sitting on their hands or shrieking about their fucking stocks or being able to get a god damn haircut.  And now, if someone criticizes the federal government response to that crisis - or any other of the dozens of things Trump has done that deserved valid criticism since then - it's "you dang liberals just need to leave poor ol' Trump alone you're making people vote for him!  Outrage echo chamber!" If you're not outraged you're either 1. not paying attention, 2. a horrible person, or 3. an easily manipulated idiot.

No motherfucker, I am not making anyone vote for Trump.  The people who would even consider casting a ballot for this immoral, insecure, despicable man are the ones who are "making" them vote for him.  How about we expect adults to take a little responsibility for their actions instead of being like, "the libs are just so mean people feel they HAVE to vote for Trump!"  Makes me fucking sick.

Oh I get it now, Trump killed your aunt

And, proving his point....

Some people are 1, 2, and 3.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #132 on: June 16, 2020, 05:18:27 PM »
I’m too lazy to go back and see who posted this article but holy fuck is it good.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-itself

It's a good article. Some in the left wing and mainstream media do fail to live up their ideals. There is some is some intellectual dishonesty going on. Most of the others fail to express sufficient outrage when this happens.

The right wing media is worse, largely because they do live up to their ideals. There is a lot of blatant deception going on.  I don't see much if any self criticism , mostly just a lot of whining about liberal bias. 
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« Reply #133 on: June 16, 2020, 06:17:39 PM »
I think most of us probably hold non-Fox news to a little higher standard
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« Reply #134 on: June 17, 2020, 05:46:57 PM »
I think most of us probably hold non-Fox news to a little higher standard

I still have some fairly fond memories of Fox News; Tony Snow,  Britt Hume, Megyn Kelly, Shepard Smith.  To an extent Red Eye, Bill O'Reilly, Neil Cavuto,  and Greta Van Susteren. I remember when some thought FNC was going to moderate.  Instead they went all Tucker Carlson and Tomi Lahren.

In a way, Fox News is the tip of the iceberg. 

American Thinker
Breitbart
Conservative Tribune
Daily Caller
Family Research Council
Federalist Society
One America News Network (OAN)
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RedState
The Daily Wire
The Epoch Times
The Federalist
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The Patriot Post
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Washington Times
Western Journalism
World Net Daily (WND)
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