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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #840 on: March 20, 2021, 02:01:23 AM »
Does she think TV commercials are allowed to feature single-race couples?

Anyone should be able to eat a fucking bagel with lox and cream cheese who wants to eat a bagel with lox and cream cheese. Fuck this cultural appropriation BS. That is what American culture is.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #841 on: March 20, 2021, 07:55:58 AM »
Imagine how iGens will feel when they realize they can't eat sriracha anymore.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #842 on: March 20, 2021, 10:02:34 AM »
Does she think TV commercials are allowed to feature single-race couples?

Plot twist: She’s married to a white cop.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #843 on: March 20, 2021, 10:06:52 AM »
https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/when-the-narrative-replaces-the-news-9ea

I read one of his 'ex-roommates' at an addiction treatment facility mentioned the guy was in treatment facility last summer. For his sex addiction.
There's no good anti-Trump narrative in discussing mental illness tho.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #844 on: March 20, 2021, 11:45:17 AM »
You need a new profile pic. It's been a minute.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #845 on: March 20, 2021, 12:35:37 PM »
I read one of his 'ex-roommates' at an addiction treatment facility mentioned the guy was in treatment facility last summer. For his sex addiction.
There's no good anti-Trump narrative in discussing mental illness tho.

Seems proof positive that we have a lot of mental illness out there.

Mental illness and easy access to guns seem incompatible to me, to Trump and his ilk, not so much.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #846 on: March 20, 2021, 04:22:49 PM »
Anyone should be able to eat a fucking bagel with lox and cream cheese who wants to eat a bagel with lox and cream cheese. Fuck this cultural appropriation BS. That is what American culture is.

When it comes to food, cultural appropriation is literally the greatest thing to happen for it, ever
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #847 on: March 20, 2021, 04:24:16 PM »
Seems proof positive that we have a lot of mental illness out there.

Mental illness and easy access to guns seem incompatible to me, to Trump and his ilk, not so much.

Thats quite the shitty and divisive take
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #848 on: March 20, 2021, 04:45:33 PM »
Thats quite the shitty and divisive take

Indeed - dividing the people with a clue from the clueless. For shame

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #849 on: March 20, 2021, 04:54:48 PM »
I am a big fan of cultural exchange and am skeptical about cultural appropriation complaints. This is a pretty good read:

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/the-trouble-with-cultural-appropriation
Much as with the above [your inability to see privilege and systemic racism as the same thing from different angles], this is a semantics issue where "appropriation" has been expanded far beyond the problematic context out of ignorance or straw man considerations.

No one is opposed to cultural exchange, and cultural diffusion is inevitable in a diverse free market. The whiny writer of the GQ piece appears to be a non-American who doesn't understand that "Redskin" is a pejorative, so I wouldn't really trust him to grasp the nuances here.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #850 on: March 20, 2021, 06:55:45 PM »
Much as with the above [your inability to see privilege and systemic racism as the same thing from different angles], this is a semantics issue where "appropriation" has been expanded far beyond the problematic context out of ignorance or straw man considerations.

No one is opposed to cultural exchange, and cultural diffusion is inevitable in a diverse free market. The whiny writer of the GQ piece appears to be a non-American who doesn't understand that "Redskin" is a pejorative, so I wouldn't really trust him to grasp the nuances here.

Right. We can dismiss whiney Brits. What do they know?

You seem to lack to the ability to distinguish clear differences in meanings.  It is not like we are talking talking about nuances or ambiguity.

By definition, unearned privilege involves the granting of special favors, benefits, protections, and so on to an individual or select, restricted, elite group; benefits not available to most people. If something is available to all white skinned people; it is, by definition, not a privilege.  Also, a privilege is something affirmatively present. It is not the absence of something.

Synonyms of privilege would be license, prerogative, or entitlement.

An  inherent or inalienable right is not the same thing, because, by definition, those rights are the common  birthright of everyone.

Institutional, structural, and systemic racism involve the denial of inherent or inalienable rights to racial minorities.       
 
Every piece I have read on white privilege flat out states or implies that the absence of racial discrimination enjoyed by whites is an unearned privilege.  That is not only ludicrous, it is immoral to equate a freedom from denial of rights with the granting of special favors, benefits, protections, etc.

Some also go into the subtler conveniences of being a member of the dominant ethnic or racial group in a nation, such as being able to easily find dolls for one's children or band aids and so on that match one's skin color.  Are those things special favors limited to an elite?

I would suggest we are better off continuing to address structural racism and racial inequities, rather than blaming all white people for being treated generally relatively well by the government and legal authorities,  and enjoying some largely unnoticed or overlooked conveniences associated with being part of the majority racial / ethnic group. 
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #851 on: March 20, 2021, 09:05:54 PM »
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No one is opposed to cultural exchange, and cultural diffusion is inevitable in a diverse free market.

I actually get that. So words means things after all? Sometimes distinctions are clear, other times they are nuanced.

btw Some on the right are actually averse to cultural diversity, exchange, and diffusion.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #852 on: March 21, 2021, 01:22:42 AM »
Miscegenation?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #853 on: March 21, 2021, 01:33:22 AM »
No one is opposed to cultural exchange
That’s...... not technically true. There are LOTS of people nowadays who believe that white people should not be able to incorporate anything from any other culture. No clothing. No cooking. No music. Lots of people don’t appreciate the difference between cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #854 on: March 21, 2021, 04:18:30 PM »
I mentioned some on the right are averse to cultural diversity, exchange, and diffusion.

Yes. Some on the left are also averse to some forms of cultural exchanges and diffusion; though for different reasons. 
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