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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6480 on: November 08, 2024, 01:08:25 PM »
Republicans (ThePAMan included) never want to look inward, only outward.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6481 on: November 08, 2024, 01:09:13 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 01:07:32 PM
Everyone else burying their head in the sand because a large part of the problem stems from reasons we (the U.S.) caused.

Yep by gerrymandering and giving delusional Progressives elections they can win
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6482 on: November 08, 2024, 01:09:43 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 01:08:25 PM
Republicans (ThePAMan included) never want to look inward, only outward.

LOL. You remain delusional. At least you are consistent
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6483 on: November 08, 2024, 01:14:24 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 08, 2024, 12:38:36 PM
You don’t think the progressive-appeasing open border policy Biden/Harris had for a couple years didn’t hurt this campaign?

Harris spent a lot of time talking about the economy. Democrats are just using the economy excuse because admitting that America roundly rejected their principles and policies would be salt in their wounds.

I was talking about Trump's targeted approach to wooing the working class and minority voters, particularly in swing states.  Many of these voters broke for Trump in the last few weeks of the campaign.  They made a big difference in the outcomes in Pennsylvania and Michigan.  I think the strategy helped Trump close the gap after the debate and build momentum for election day. 

Bottom line: Trump needed to build a broader coalition to win in key states.  He succeeded.   

I'm not using the economic anxiety issue as an excuse for Harris losing the election.  It was a flaw in her campaign that hurt in the battleground states.  She needed to reach out to this voting group much more effectively.  Trump was able to demonstrate that he understood their economic hardships.     

There were other missteps as well.  I've already admitted that Biden and Harris took too long to make immigration/border security a major priority.       
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6484 on: November 08, 2024, 01:20:26 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 01:09:13 PM
Yep by gerrymandering and giving delusional Progressives elections they can win

#Non bullseye emoji.

We’re talking about the border.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6485 on: November 08, 2024, 01:21:31 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 01:08:25 PM
Republicans (ThePAMan included) never want to look inward, only outward.

And you seem to admire a hard right-wing war criminal in Israel. Custard and JJ might not be our only resident fascists.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6486 on: November 08, 2024, 01:24:51 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 10:27:50 AM
Alum ignores that Trump's largest ad buy was the Kamala Progressive Taxpayer Funded Sex Change Surgery for Prisoners and Illegals that ran on a loop during football games....Kamala is for they/them had zilch to do with her losing men...and women and youth voters.

That transgender ad was primarily designed to keep the base energized and motivated across the country.  It served as a spark for the true believers to talk to their friends and family, plus volunteering to knock on doors.  My MAGA neighbors brought up the issue repeatedly in our conversations.  So did the two Trump canvassers who stopped by.  It was the second or third issue they pitched to me.  They didn’t even bring up the economy, which is understandable. 

However, that ad was not meant for the working class and minority voters.  I bet more than half of them didn’t even see it.  Just look at the states and cities that Trump visited.  His message was much more targeted and nuanced in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.   

The working class voters felt like he understood their economic hardships at the personal level.  He made an emotional connection.  It’s one of the reasons he did the McDonalds photo-op.  He talked about putting the working class first, returning manufacturing jobs to the U.S. and then pivoted to immigrant labor.   

It was a good strategy that Harris was unable to counter.   
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6487 on: November 08, 2024, 01:31:25 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 01:20:26 PM
#Non bullseye emoji.

We’re talking about the border.

Which you freeloading progressive commie Euros wanted. Thanks for help losing another national election.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6488 on: November 08, 2024, 01:32:41 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 01:21:31 PM
And you seem to admire a hard right-wing war criminal in Israel. Custard and JJ might not be our only resident fascists.

I've said a billion times he has to go. The problem is the dumbass Palestinians, Lebanese, and Iranians play right into his hands.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6489 on: November 08, 2024, 01:34:08 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 01:32:41 PM
I've said a billion times he has to go. The problem is the dumbass Palestinians, Lebanese, and Iranians play right into his hands.

Yet you love what he’s doing.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6490 on: November 08, 2024, 01:34:13 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on November 08, 2024, 01:24:51 PM
That transgender ad was primarily designed to keep the base energized and motivated across the country.  It served as a spark for the true believers to talk to their friends and family, plus volunteering to knock on doors.  My MAGA neighbors brought up the issue repeatedly in our conversations.  So did the two Trump canvassers who stopped by.  It was the second or third issue they pitched to me.  They didn’t even bring up the economy, which is understandable. 

However, that ad was not meant for the working class and minority voters.  I bet more than half of them didn’t even see it.  Just look at the states and cities that Trump visited.  His message was much more targeted and nuanced in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.   

The working class voters felt like he understood their economic hardships at the personal level.  He made an emotional connection.  It’s one of the reasons he did the McDonalds photo-op.  He talked about putting the working class first, returning manufacturing jobs to the U.S. and then pivoted to immigrant labor.   

It was a good strategy that Harris was unable to counter.

You don't think Black men watch football? What about young men? They don't watch either?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6491 on: November 08, 2024, 01:35:13 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 01:34:08 PM
Yet you love what he’s doing.

I love that he is demanding unconditional surrender as this has to stop. They don't want peace? Fine. Keep getting bombed then.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6492 on: November 08, 2024, 01:41:48 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 01:34:13 PM
You don't think Black men watch football? What about young men? They don't watch either?

I wish you had run Trump's campaign. 
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6493 on: November 08, 2024, 01:44:25 PM »
I fail to think of a single Dem who is anti-UN such as you are.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6494 on: November 08, 2024, 01:46:42 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 01:35:13 PM
I love that he is demanding unconditional surrender as this has to stop. They don't want peace? Fine. Keep getting bombed then.

They, as if Hamas and women and children are a monolith. Most of them just want to live and have a place to live. You’ve basically advocated exterminating an entire ethnic group of people, which is as monstrous as it gets.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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