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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6465 on: November 08, 2024, 11:20:36 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 10:27:50 AM
Alum ignores that Trump's largest ad buy was the Kamala Progressive Taxpayer Funded Sex Change Surgery for Prisoners and Illegals that ran on a loop during football games....Kamala is for they/them had zilch to do with her losing men...and women and youth voters.

It was a master stroke. It kept Harris focused on fascism and freedom in response, instead of the economy. They should give a huge bonus to the Puerto Rico island of garbage guy. That wasted an entire week of Harris' time
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6466 on: November 08, 2024, 11:21:53 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 10:31:36 AM
It is readily apparent that many see Ilhan Omar as the face of the Democratic party and not people that can win in Red or Purple states like Shapiro, Bashear, Whitmer, Stein... You know... Dem Centrists who don't support terrorist scum, sex reassignment surgery for murderers, allowing criminals to run amuck,  and free shit for those here illegally.

I'd bet that 75% of trump voters don't know who Ilhan Omar is. Random first generation latino men in their 20's aren't watching any media.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6467 on: November 08, 2024, 11:42:35 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on November 08, 2024, 11:21:53 AM
I'd bet that 75% of trump voters don't know who Ilhan Omar is. Random first generation latino men in their 20's aren't watching any media.

They will when the Dems nominate her for 2028. Because they were not left enough....
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6468 on: November 08, 2024, 11:49:17 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on November 08, 2024, 11:10:05 AM
Clover is gigantic dairy operation, their organic butter isn't particularly more expensive than any other butter around here unless you go real downscale into some CAFO butter like product from who knows where that you'd have to get at probably some local hispanic market. Costco imports their butter from New Zealand - I'm a patriot and buy American butter.

If I were to go to a farmer's market and buy from an individual pasture raised organic operation, it would probably be 25% more expensive than Clover, which is carried at Safeway. Shit is just expensive in the Bay Area. If your argument that Biden printing money caused inflation - so does Tim Cook, Surinder Pinchai, Mark Zuckerberg and Jensen Huang printing money.

That butter sure sounds good. Do the kids get to use the butter or do they only get to use Parlay squeeze "butter food?"
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6469 on: November 08, 2024, 12:15:26 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 11:49:17 AM
That butter sure sounds good. Do the kids get to use the butter or do they only get to use Parlay squeeze "butter food?"

Parlay squeeze butter food is confiscated at the state border, so only when we go to Tahoe.

It's just one of those things, I only buy Clover dairy products. That company does a ton for the area, always donating to kids sports leagues, food donations when needed, really stepping up when the fires happened, and they donated a huge swath of coast land for a County Park with a ton of hiking trails and beach access. Gotta reward that shit.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6470 on: November 08, 2024, 12:16:33 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 11:42:35 AM
They will when the Dems nominate her for 2028. Because they were not left enough....

You have to be a US Citizen to run for President and Trump will be sending her back to where she came from. So .. no.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6471 on: November 08, 2024, 12:38:36 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on November 08, 2024, 10:23:58 AM
I'm sorry, but this election was not just about your grievances.  Pronouns, transgender issues, DEI and California progressives didn't matter to the vast majority of working class and minority voters that went for Trump.  And neither did abortion.

What swayed these folks was the perception that the economy was poor.  Trump's campaign understood this and developed a very smart, targeted economic message for this group.  He deserves credit for doing this.

Bidenomics may look good on paper, but not in the grocery aisles.  The economy wasn't working for these people.  Many are struggling to buy a starter house.  Meanwhile, their rents have increased.

These voters were angry and took it out on the party in power.  It made a difference in the swing states. We've seen this story play out in other presidential elections. 

I don't blame this group for voting for Trump.  I blame Harris and other Democrats for not making "bead-and-butter" economic issues a higher priority.  This was foreseeable.

You don’t think the progressive-appeasing open border policy Biden/Harris had for a couple years didn’t hurt this campaign?

Harris spent a lot of time talking about the economy. Democrats are just using the economy excuse because admitting that America roundly rejected their principles and policies would be salt in their wounds.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6472 on: November 08, 2024, 12:43:31 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 08, 2024, 12:38:36 PM
You don’t think the progressive-appeasing open border policy Biden/Harris had for a couple years didn’t hurt this campaign?

Harris spent a lot of time talking about the economy. Democrats are just using the economy excuse because admitting that America roundly rejected their principles and policies would be salt in their wounds.

"open border policy" is such a tired canard. The relative difference in chaos down there hasn't changed much in decades, just the noise about it.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6473 on: November 08, 2024, 12:56:43 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 10:08:48 AM
Or actually winning important elections.

You’re the only fucking person who thinks they mattered in this election. There’s a dimes worth of difference between the candidates on Israel. They were both bought and paid for.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6474 on: November 08, 2024, 12:57:40 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 08, 2024, 12:38:36 PM
You don’t think the progressive-appeasing open border policy Biden/Harris had for a couple years didn’t hurt this campaign?

Harris spent a lot of time talking about the economy. Democrats are just using the economy excuse because admitting that America roundly rejected their principles and policies would be salt in their wounds.

Talk about liars. Custard seems to have a lying problem.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6475 on: November 08, 2024, 01:03:45 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on November 08, 2024, 12:43:31 PM
"open border policy" is such a tired canard. The relative difference in chaos down there hasn't changed much in decades, just the noise about it.

I’m sorry the term doesn’t appeal to you, but open is the opposite of closed, and it certainly was not closed.

Biden campaigned on it, encouraged people to come, and they came in hordes. Then gave them free shit when they finally landed in some sanctuary city. They refused to do anything about the border until it became apparent it was going to cost them the election. Then came the crappy bipartisan bill that alum and Nichi always bring up that was way too little, way too late.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6476 on: November 08, 2024, 01:03:51 PM »
Murph and Tempo predictably burying their heads in the sand regarding the border issues
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6477 on: November 08, 2024, 01:04:35 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 12:57:40 PM
Talk about liars. Custard seems to have a lying problem.

What am I lying about?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6478 on: November 08, 2024, 01:06:31 PM »
Quote from: Custard on November 08, 2024, 01:04:35 PM
What am I lying about?

“Open border policy.” No President has had an “open border policy.”
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #6479 on: November 08, 2024, 01:07:32 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 01:03:51 PM
Murph and Tempo predictably burying their heads in the sand regarding the border issues

Everyone else burying their head in the sand because a large part of the problem stems from reasons we (the U.S.) caused.
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