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WTF is wrong with the left?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4215 on: January 07, 2024, 12:03:44 PM »
I mean, I guess if you just believe the legacy media and left wing belief that Trump organically called a bunch of his supporters to attack the Capitol then yeah that would have been a much bigger deal that what actually happened
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4216 on: January 07, 2024, 12:38:08 PM »
I mean, I guess if you just believe the legacy media and left wing belief that Trump organically called a bunch of his supporters to attack the Capitol then yeah that would have been a much bigger deal that what actually happened
I don't fully believe that happened, but no one breaks into a capitol in session with at least some tactical gear intending a benign political protest.

Trump belongs in prison for other reasons. His candidacy should be left to the states even if that means the election goes to the House because as dysfunctional as the House is, we'd probably wind up with a better President than Trump.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4217 on: January 07, 2024, 01:04:06 PM »
Trump's “stolen election” lies played a major role in the J6 attack on the Capitol.  Was he involved in planning and directing the insurrection?  I don’t know.  None of us know the details of the evidence that has been collected.  Perhaps it’s minor, perhaps there's one or two bombshells. 

At a minimum, Trump is just another egotistical asshole who knew how to feed into the rioter’s hatreds and fears...it's the people he's pandering to that are the real threat to democracy...and those that enable him....

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4218 on: January 07, 2024, 02:12:10 PM »
I don't fully believe that happened, but no one breaks into a capitol in session with at least some tactical gear intending a benign political protest.

Trump belongs in prison for other reasons. His candidacy should be left to the states even if that means the election goes to the House because as dysfunctional as the House is, we'd probably wind up with a better President than Trump.

Good thing they didn't need any tactical gear as the guards just let everyone in...

Strangely videos of this weren't released until about 3 years after it happened for some strange reason
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4219 on: January 07, 2024, 02:14:44 PM »
Trump's “stolen election” lies played a major role in the J6 attack on the Capitol.  Was he involved in planning and directing the insurrection?  I don’t know.  None of us know the details of the evidence that has been collected.  Perhaps it’s minor, perhaps there's one or two bombshells. 

At a minimum, Trump is just another egotistical asshole who knew how to feed into the rioter’s hatreds and fears...it's the people he's pandering to that are the real threat to democracy...and those that enable him....

The real threat to democracy is the millions of illegals pouring over our borders every year.  Not a few hundred retarded Trump cult boomers.  Hot take I know.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4220 on: January 07, 2024, 02:21:32 PM »
The real threat to democracy is the millions of illegals pouring over our borders every year.  Not a few hundred retarded Trump cult boomers.  Hot take I know.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4221 on: January 07, 2024, 03:02:23 PM »
Good thing they didn't need any tactical gear as the guards just let everyone in...

Strangely videos of this weren't released until about 3 years after it happened for some strange reason

So explain this. Some were let in by guards?  Others were smashing windows to get in? How about the woman who was shot and killed? Did a guard let her in?
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4222 on: January 07, 2024, 03:04:51 PM »
The real threat to democracy is the millions of illegals pouring over our borders every year.  Not a few hundred retarded Trump cult boomers.  Hot take I know.

House Republicans just voted to cut border security.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4223 on: January 07, 2024, 03:13:56 PM »
Good thing they didn't need any tactical gear as the guards just let everyone in...

Strangely videos of this weren't released until about 3 years after it happened for some strange reason

Strangely enough, I can't find said videos. They should be headlines.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4224 on: January 07, 2024, 04:21:16 PM »
The real threat to democracy is the millions of illegals pouring over our borders every year.  Not a few hundred retarded Trump cult boomers.  Hot take I know.

If true - then we've never had a democracy.

Please tell me that we didn't really have immigration rules in 1777 so nobody coming into the US then was illegal.

There have been illegal immigrants for well over a century.

And how exactly is it a "threat to Democracy". Are they going to overturn elections?

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4225 on: January 07, 2024, 04:25:55 PM »
Good thing they didn't need any tactical gear as the guards just let everyone in...

Strangely videos of this weren't released until about 3 years after it happened for some strange reason

The guards "letting them in" - if that's how you see it, doesn't make the tactical gear go away. Why exactly are people going to the capitol with tactical gear on?

These cops were 100x the men and women that the Derek Chauvin's of the world are. Cops are not solidiers. Their job is to serve and protect, not win wars. Given a situation that presents itself, they have to make choices in order to produce the best result. That might involve funneling chaos instead of pulling out your guns and shooting. See - Eugene Goodman. He was armed and could have protected the Senate Chambers with deadly force. Instead he pulled a switcheroo on the rioters, and managed to keep the Senators safe without loss of life.

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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4226 on: January 08, 2024, 01:05:25 AM »
Strangely enough, I can't find said videos. They should be headlines.

You really think Mother Jones and NPR or any legacy news outlet you follow is going to promote anything that would go against the official 1/6 narrative?

You’ll find plenty on Twitter. I assume you’re not on there much now that they’re no longer a left wing propaganda arm/censorship bureau.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4227 on: January 08, 2024, 01:19:56 AM »
Trump's “stolen election” lies played a major role in the J6 attack on the Capitol.  Was he involved in planning and directing the insurrection?  I don’t know.  None of us know the details of the evidence that has been collected.  Perhaps it’s minor, perhaps there's one or two bombshells. 

At a minimum, Trump is just another egotistical asshole who knew how to feed into the rioter’s hatreds and fears...it's the people he's pandering to that are the real threat to democracy...and those that enable him....

Trump really stirred up some shit. At the same time Nancy and Joe had a lot more to gain from exacerbating and sensationalizing that half assed “attack” on the Capitol than Trump ever did.

Nothing like this is ever as simple as it seems. This was a power struggle with multiple players involved and we’ll likely never know who was responsible for what. It’s silly to think otherwise.
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4228 on: January 08, 2024, 07:38:06 AM »
LOL. Next Custard will he calling all the January 6th convicts "political prisoners."
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Re: WTF is wrong with the left?
« Reply #4229 on: January 08, 2024, 08:51:36 AM »
I have zero sympathy for anyone who breached the Capitol, whether by force or by the guards opening the gates for them.
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