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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3525 on: June 08, 2023, 04:02:31 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on June 08, 2023, 03:56:49 PM
yeah gallup are amateurs, this is probably their first poll ever

I’d love to see the actual questions.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3526 on: June 08, 2023, 04:04:40 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 08, 2023, 04:02:31 PM
I’d love to see the actual questions.

Did you read the article?
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« Reply #3527 on: June 08, 2023, 04:05:49 PM »
It would be hilarious if this is the question they are basing their results on. Half the populace doesn’t even understand what this means. Again, it’s not hard for even an experienced pollster to put out a flawed poll.

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« Reply #3528 on: June 08, 2023, 04:10:59 PM »
Anyone who knows anything about polling knows that Americans are hilariously bad at “defining themselves.”

The questions have to be very specific to get accurate results.
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« Reply #3529 on: June 08, 2023, 04:13:30 PM »
Hey PAMan, define yourself for us. This could be interesting.
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« Reply #3530 on: June 08, 2023, 04:22:05 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 08, 2023, 04:13:30 PM
Hey PAMan, define yourself for us. This could be interesting.

What parameters you referring to and how do you define them?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3531 on: June 08, 2023, 04:23:11 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 08, 2023, 04:22:05 PM
What parameters you referring to and how do you define them?

Bingo! Perfect answer!
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3532 on: June 08, 2023, 04:27:15 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 08, 2023, 04:23:11 PM
Bingo! Perfect answer!

We discussed that this issue was not addressed in the article and were unsure how it was handled in the poll.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3533 on: June 08, 2023, 04:41:09 PM »
https://news.gallup.com/file/poll/506816/20230608Social-EconomicIdeology.pdf

It looks to be pure self-identification with no definitions provided.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3534 on: June 08, 2023, 07:51:40 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 08, 2023, 04:41:09 PM
https://news.gallup.com/file/poll/506816/20230608Social-EconomicIdeology.pdf

It looks to be pure self-identification with no definitions provided.

Exactly.

You could ask someone in a poll:

1) Do you identify as fiscally conservative? Yes

2) Do you think the US should have universal healthcare? Yes

You could get yes to both questions, when we know that most fiscal conservatives are not going to back universal healthcare. That’s why polls that deal in self-proclamations and generalities are basically worthless.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3535 on: June 08, 2023, 08:05:45 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 08, 2023, 07:51:40 PM
Exactly.

You could ask someone in a poll:

1) Do you identify as fiscally conservative? Yes

2) Do you think the US should have universal healthcare? Yes

You could get yes to both questions, when we know that most fiscal conservatives are not going to back universal healthcare. That’s why polls that deal in self-proclamations and generalities are basically worthless.

I am thinking they are comparing these numbers against identical prior polls. So that is something, at least, to consider.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3536 on: June 08, 2023, 08:08:28 PM »
So what are ya, PAMan? I’m beginning to think you’re a Bob Dole “Democrat.”
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3537 on: June 08, 2023, 08:10:11 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 08, 2023, 08:08:28 PM
So what are ya, PAMan? I’m beginning to think you’re a Bob Dole “Democrat.”

I completely answered another question.

I am an American!
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3538 on: June 08, 2023, 08:10:54 PM »
Donald Trump having a good day…
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3539 on: June 08, 2023, 09:07:39 PM »
Could be worse, he’s about to get another bump in his polling numbers
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