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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3390 on: June 07, 2023, 12:26:14 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:24:59 PM
Fair enough if that is how we are going to parse what land was "stolen."

Yeah when the Supreme Court of the US, who stole the land, declares that the land was illegally stolen in violation of a signed treaty - my white fragility isn’t quite intense enough to not acknowledge that yeah, the land was stolen.

This isn’t like a “we were here first” thing.  They owned the land under US law and it was stolen from them.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3391 on: June 07, 2023, 12:26:27 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 07, 2023, 12:24:06 PM
The Supreme Court raised stolen land.  Don’t blame me, I had nothing to do with it.

You brought it up here. I was just looking for the parameters.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3392 on: June 07, 2023, 12:27:42 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:26:27 PM
You brought it up here. I was just looking for the parameters.

LOL
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3393 on: June 07, 2023, 12:28:07 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:24:59 PM
Fair enough if that is how we are going to parse what land was "stolen."

Lol @ broken treaties as “parsing.”
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3394 on: June 07, 2023, 12:28:30 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 07, 2023, 12:26:14 PM
Yeah when the Supreme Court of the US, who stole the land, declares that the land was illegally stolen in violation of a signed treaty - my white fragility isn’t quite intense enough to not acknowledge that yeah, the land was stolen.

Interesting.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3395 on: June 07, 2023, 12:28:49 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 07, 2023, 12:28:07 PM
Lol @ broken treaties as “parsing.”

Contracts are made to be broken.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3396 on: June 07, 2023, 12:29:36 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 07, 2023, 12:26:14 PM
Yeah when the Supreme Court of the US, who stole the land, declares that the land was illegally stolen in violation of a signed treaty - my white fragility isn’t quite intense enough to not acknowledge that yeah, the land was stolen.

This isn’t like a “we were here first” thing.  They owned the land under US law and it was stolen from them.

I should have waited for the edit.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3397 on: June 07, 2023, 12:30:28 PM »
You could also try taking five seconds to look something up?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3398 on: June 07, 2023, 12:32:05 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 07, 2023, 12:17:04 PM
PAMan is almost Dom like in his “just pretend with me” arguments.

I'm thinking the arc of history does not favor your views here. Not saying that is right.  But if you want to get something actually accomplished...
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3399 on: June 07, 2023, 12:34:07 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 07, 2023, 12:30:28 PM
You could also try taking five seconds to look something up?

I was interested in how far the scope of your argument would go. Now I know.

Yes, I knew the treaty was violated. But there was gold in those hills.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3400 on: June 07, 2023, 12:34:23 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:32:05 PM
I'm thinking the arc of history does not favor your views here. Not saying that is right.  But if you want to get something actually accomplished...

As long as you, you know, totally ignore every civil rights movement ever - sure.

If you actually look at the history though, the opposite is true.  None have ever had success with the “don’t call a bigot a bigot” method.  Has just never happened.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3401 on: June 07, 2023, 12:35:00 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:34:07 PM
I was interested in how far the scope of your argument would go. Now I know.

Yes, I knew the treaty was violated. But there was gold in those hills.

A very American attitude.  Our country was built on stealing land, stealing labor, stealing lives.

That isn’t a positive thing though.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3402 on: June 07, 2023, 12:36:34 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:28:49 PM
Contracts are made to be broken.


I thought they were made to abided by. Weird.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3403 on: June 07, 2023, 12:37:26 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 07, 2023, 12:35:00 PM
A very American attitude.  Our country was built on stealing land, stealing labor, stealing lives.

That isn’t a positive thing though.

Wait, it is broader than you claim or are we just talking treaties?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3404 on: June 07, 2023, 12:37:46 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 07, 2023, 12:36:34 PM

I thought they were made to abided by. Weird.

How naive.
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