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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3375 on: June 07, 2023, 12:14:23 PM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3376 on: June 07, 2023, 12:15:45 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on June 07, 2023, 11:39:17 AM
what was sacred about it?

Nothing. To a privileged white male such as yourself.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3377 on: June 07, 2023, 12:16:21 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 07, 2023, 12:13:54 PM
No civil rights movement anywhere in the world has been successful with the “don’t call the oppressors out” strategy.

There is a time and place for everything.

Seeking to equate Judge Judy to Bull Connor is not going to help change Judge Judy's mind.

Now, QAnon97 may be a different story....
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3378 on: June 07, 2023, 12:17:04 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 07, 2023, 12:13:54 PM
No civil rights movement anywhere in the world has been successful with the “don’t call the oppressors out” strategy.

PAMan is almost Dom like in his “just pretend with me” arguments.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3379 on: June 07, 2023, 12:18:12 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 07, 2023, 12:08:27 PM
Not sure about sacred but definitely blatantly stolen land.

You going to give your house back to those who happened to cross over the Bering Straits first?
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« Reply #3380 on: June 07, 2023, 12:19:09 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:18:12 PM
You going to give your house back to those who happened to cross over the Bering Straits first?

Depends, did the Supreme Court rule that my land was stolen in violation of a signed treaty?

Personally I’d take the billion for my house but I don’t blame the Lakota for not being willing to be bought off either.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3381 on: June 07, 2023, 12:19:43 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:16:21 PM
There is a time and place for everything.


That’s the way oppressors speak.

“Oh, of course you can protest peacefully!”

“Colin Kaepernick took a knee!” Oh no, you can’t protest like that! Cancel him!”
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3382 on: June 07, 2023, 12:20:50 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:18:12 PM
You going to give your house back to those who happened to cross over the Bering Straits first?

Lol. I thought you were anti straw-man?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3383 on: June 07, 2023, 12:21:45 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 07, 2023, 12:17:04 PM
PAMan is almost Dom like in his “just pretend with me” arguments.

And despite all the years of protests, etc. etc, it took years for the majority of society to catch up.

I'm just saying, acting like an asshole, like the assholes you are arguing against, isn't going to get you where you want to be quicker. It will take you longer.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3384 on: June 07, 2023, 12:23:21 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 07, 2023, 12:20:50 PM
Lol. I thought you were anti straw-man?

He raised stolen land, so I am just asking the question if he considers the land he lives on stolen and he is going to return his land to the First Nation people.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3385 on: June 07, 2023, 12:23:39 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:21:45 PM
And despite all the years of protests, etc. etc, it took years for the majority of society to catch up.

I'm just saying, acting like an asshole, like the assholes you are arguing against, isn't going to get you where you want to be quicker. It will take you longer.

Calling out bigotry only equals “being an asshole” to the bigots.  Most reasonable people call the bigotry “being an asshole”, not the calling it out.

Again, your take simply flies in the face of every civil rights movement we know about.  None of them would’ve been successful if they’d listened to you and just not called the oppression what it was.

Black people didn’t make the civil rights progress they did because they were nice and didn’t call racists racist.  The opposite, in fact, they fought their asses off for those rights.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3386 on: June 07, 2023, 12:24:06 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:23:21 PM
He raised stolen land, so I am just asking the question if he considers the land he lives on stolen and he is going to return his land to the First Nation people.

The Supreme Court raised stolen land.  Don’t blame me, I had nothing to do with it.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3387 on: June 07, 2023, 12:24:43 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 12:21:45 PM
And despite all the years of protests, etc. etc, it took years for the majority of society to catch up.

I'm just saying, acting like an asshole, like the assholes you are arguing against, isn't going to get you where you want to be quicker. It will take you longer.

You’ll be the first person I notify when I start seeking the approval of assholes.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3388 on: June 07, 2023, 12:24:59 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 07, 2023, 12:19:09 PM
Depends, did the Supreme Court rule that my land was stolen in violation of a signed treaty?

Personally I’d take the billion for my house but I don’t blame the Lakota for not being willing to be bought off either.

Fair enough if that is how we are going to parse what land was "stolen."
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #3389 on: June 07, 2023, 12:25:32 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on June 07, 2023, 12:24:43 PM
You’ll be the first person I notify when I start seeking the approval of assholes.

That's a good one.
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