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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2700 on: November 21, 2022, 01:01:45 PM »
I see this went from news stories to opinion pieces.
The NYT he said that she said that he said but she won't say that she said what he said she heard him say, and there are gaps in what he said, was on the front page of the fishwrap.
Where 'news' is generally reported.

Opinion pieces are generally reserved for the Opinion page.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2701 on: November 21, 2022, 01:44:06 PM »
I see this went from news stories to opinion pieces.
The NYT he said that she said that he said but she won't say that she said what he said she heard him say, and there are gaps in what he said, was on the front page of the fishwrap.
Where 'news' is generally reported.

Opinion pieces are generally reserved for the Opinion page.

That at least does sound like reporting on who said, or denied saying, what.
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« Reply #2702 on: November 21, 2022, 03:19:54 PM »
Editorials and straight reporting aren't the only alternatives in journalism. There are also news analysis and investigative journalism. Both purport to ferret out facts.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2703 on: November 21, 2022, 03:22:46 PM »
That at least does sound like reporting on who said, or denied saying, what.
They could have put it in the gossip column.

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« Reply #2704 on: November 21, 2022, 03:24:16 PM »
Editorials and straight reporting aren't the only alternatives in journalism. There are also news analysis and investigative journalism. Both purport to ferret out facts.
Where does setting narrative fit in ?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2705 on: November 21, 2022, 05:41:43 PM »
You mean like the difference between the way Fox is covering Musk / twitter and the rest of the msm?

Or like gain of function something something spike protein something lab leak something gobbledegook Wuhan kungflu what pangolin? 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2706 on: November 21, 2022, 06:22:45 PM »
I don't know what to call Fox, because you can't say it's news, and you can't call it "soft core porn" either.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2707 on: November 21, 2022, 06:41:58 PM »
Maybe we can all agree that they all suck in their own very sucky ways.
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« Reply #2708 on: November 21, 2022, 06:48:20 PM »
It is interesting that Custard replies with insults and apparently did not bother reading.

There is no doubt Wapo and the NYT opinion pieces tend to show disdain for Trump. They offer reasons for their takes.

Fox takes a different approach.

I didn’t insult anyone. You seriously don’t think Fix offers reasons for their takes, good or bad or whatever they may be?
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« Reply #2709 on: November 21, 2022, 06:52:08 PM »
You mean like the difference between the way Fox is covering Musk / twitter and the rest of the msm?

Or like gain of function something something spike protein something lab leak something gobbledegook Wuhan kungflu what pangolin?

Hold up. You couldn’t possibly be belittling someone for daring to disagree with the news outlets that present the progressive position as “fact” could you?
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« Reply #2710 on: November 21, 2022, 07:13:02 PM »
I didn’t insult anyone. You seriously don’t think Fix offers reasons for their takes, good or bad or whatever they may be?

Fix offers reasons like: Liberals are having a melt down because Musk is instituting free speech at Twitter. Or all those engineers who quit weren't doing anything except censoring conservatives. Or Musk is making the lazy woke bums actually go to work and work hard.
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« Reply #2711 on: November 21, 2022, 07:23:50 PM »
Hold up. You couldn’t possibly be belittling someone for daring to disagree with the news outlets that present the progressive position as “fact” could you?

Progressive? There are progressive sources, but they are not mainstream media. The NYT and WAPO are slightly left of center mainstream, not much different from right center Forbes.

I am not belittling anyone. Fox reports the Lab leak theory as fact. Most of the rest of the MSM reports the natural origin theory as most likely.

Progressive media: Alternet, Jacobin, Mother Jones, the Nation, Truthout, Kos ...
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« Reply #2712 on: November 21, 2022, 10:38:14 PM »
Progressive? There are progressive sources, but they are not mainstream media. The NYT and WAPO are slightly left of center mainstream, not much different from right center Forbes.

I am not belittling anyone. Fox reports the Lab leak theory as fact. Most of the rest of the MSM reports the natural origin theory as most likely.

Progressive media: Alternet, Jacobin, Mother Jones, the Nation, Truthout, Kos ...

You most certainly belittled Mn. Because he has a different perspective than you on some hot topics you’ve already dismissed as being settled science because that’s what your news outlets of choice have told you are facts. Which you just decried regarding Fox News and their consumers.

I do not watch Fox News so I googled “Fox News Lab Leak Theory” and didn’t find a single hit in the first page of results where Fox News reported the lab leak theory as fact. Only articles where the possibility was broached and some level of “experts” and their research were cited.

You’ve consistently, over time, made this same generic, black and white claim that this over here is bad and this over here is good. But it’s just a feeling based on your own inherent biases, it really isn’t rooted in reality. Yes there are places that rate the news programs by factual information but then again that’s not immune from partisan bias, either. And it’s entirely dependent on sample size and who is choosing the sample itself.

The complete fingers-in-their-ears denial of even discussing the lab leak hypothesis from Fauci, Big Pharma, and the left-leaning MSM literally drove demand for said discussion from those whose spidey senses went off as a result. Fox (among others) appear to have chosen to supply it to meet the demand. The same exact thing happened with the fervent, exaggerated, and wholly premature vaccine claims/mandates.

Now that the dust has settled, it seems there were plenty of legit concerns about all manner of pandemic protocol, vaccine safety, mandate efficacy, the role of Big Pharma in policy making in the midst of record profits, blackballing alternative treatments, etc. So as usual, the truth lies somewhere in the middle, and not with the loudest or whoever controls most of the media.

Anytime things are pushed that hard and legitimate experts who want to have a different discussion are being silenced and blackballed, it raises concerns about the validity of the information (and mandates) that are being shoved down everyone’s throats from a very one-sided perspective. It’s also alarming when Big Tech and the government and other officials have the ability to memory hole all the shit that was wrong. Luckily some people are prescient enough to track some of this stuff, but sadly by the time they can say “Hey look at this stuff” the public’s attention has been shifted elsewhere. Like, say, Ukraine.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2713 on: November 21, 2022, 10:49:39 PM »
Shit. At least Tempo and I keep each post short and sweet as we say the same things over and over again.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2714 on: November 21, 2022, 11:02:49 PM »
Rekindled my relationship tonight with the college aged bartender at the golf simulator place after a 7-8 month hiatus. She hadn’t worked there in months, had been working as the bar/cart girl at a private country club all summer that I do not belong to.

I stopped in randomly for a beer after running errands and stopping at the chiropractor and surprise! she was working. Kinda hit it off again and plan to hang out Sunday. So I have some skip in my step thanks to the adrenachrome.
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